Sad Boyz - Games Are Not For Men Anymore
Episode Date: February 21, 2025Jarvis and Jordan explore why games are not for only one type of person! Sad Boyz Nightz #100 Weekly bonus episodes for only $5/mo at: https://patreon.com/sadboyz Join our Discord â–¸ https://discor...d.gg/Hw82Dhun4m P.O. Box â–¸ 3108 Glendale Blvd Suite 540, Los Angeles CA 90039 Play Sad Boyz BINGO â–¸ https://sadboyzpod.com/bingo Write To Us â–¸ sadboyzpod@gmail.com Use the subject line "Pen Palz" and we could read it on the next episode! Our Links â–¸ https://linktr.ee/sadboyzpod 00:00:00 Caulk! 00:04:42 Guesting on Other Shows 00:09:00 Hanging Out Can Be Fun! 00:10:50 Health Anxiety 00:12:47 Timing ADHD Meds 00:16:13 Sponsored by: ZocDoc 00:17:53 Documentary Sandwich (See More on Nightz!) 00:20:03 Are Video Games Too Woke Now? 01:23:32 Sad Boyz Nightz #101
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Who are some famous snakes?
That was a legit question.
I didn't doubt that.
But why?
Because I don't like so can we start?
Can we put the included?
Are we recording?
Awesome.
Has to be included.
I just want to name that plant.
Oh, because it's a snake plant.
We're making the jungle.
Steven. Oh, no, it's is it.
Balloon. Snakey.
Oh, isn't it? It's like evil.
Make you make snake pants.
Oh, well, we found it.
It's what? It's cock.
No, well, we found it. Oh's cock? No, it's cock.
Well, we found it.
Oh, I forgot you guys couldn't see the computer.
There is cock.
No, it's Sterling Holloway, I think.
I watched this YouTube video.
Hold on. I'm sorry.
Why is he all drugged out in that thumbnail?
He's twisted, dude.
Yeah, he's twisted. That's true.
Almost every single piece of a building today, it's just plucked out of a catalog.
The challenge then is just kind of putting all these things together efficiently
in ways that, in all the work that's holding everything together.
The icing creates the illusion of a precise custom joint between the pieces of the delicious goodness.
For buildings, that work is done by this cock.
The icing.
I'm sorry, but there is an L in that word.
I watched this whole video. This is bait. He's baiting.
I watched this whole video and he says cock probably a hundred times.
That was a perfect.
He says cock. That is a perfect. In each way, he says cock.
That is the perfect amount of buildup.
I do think a hot guy in a tailored t-shirt
saying cock for 40 minutes has a very effective demographic.
Cock.
The moment I saw him, I was like,
why have I met this guy in 20 lifetimes?
Right.
Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings
and other things also.
I'm Jordan.
And I'm Jarvis.
It's a shiny podcast episode because it's Jordan to be intro.
Yeah.
How's it feel?
It's rare.
Special odds.
Especially with your new voice.
Do I sound different?
You sound very...
Jordan's been sick.
I was just saying...
You sound normal enough.
No, you sound deeper.
More robust.
I don't think so.
I think you always sound deep and robust. And I don't like to be a little bit of a jerk. I don't think so. I think you always sound You sound normal enough. No, you sound deeper.
More robust.
I don't think so.
I think you always sound deep and robust.
And I don't like how we're saying that.
I am robust.
Okay, stop.
I have, I use caulk in my house.
Actually, we are putting up some frames right now.
And I guess if I have to remove it, what is it?
You fill it with caulk, I think?
What? No.
When you fill in like the whole.
Drywall putty?
Drywall, yeah. Drywall putty drywall. Oh, honey. Sorry
So we're installing it and then I'm covering it with penis. Yeah, that might kind of the ice
It was
That reminds me of um
Now I gotta see if I can find something that I saw I didn't save it for obvious reasons, but oh
Wow, can you believe I found it okay?
Jacob I'm gonna I'm gonna
Can I send this to you on Instagram would that be sufficient? Yeah, that's fine. Will that be twisted?
And then it's just a normal video
And then it's just a normal video. Oh my god, dude.
The beginning of that is insane.
I'm like, yo.
It's the icing that brings everything together.
Have you guys ever watched Is It Cake?
Yeah.
So that's barely a show.
Like the premise doesn't really make any sense and it's delivered in a bad way.
I think the show would work if you had to bite it.
Yes.
I, I, you've said this before and I hardly agree.
Wait a second.
A dog.
I feel like, are we repeating the conversation we had before?
Because I feel like then I would say there's this Japanese show
where they have to bite it.
And we watch it.
There is a show.
We watch the show.
Wait a minute.
And then like, I think Jacob said I was like funny or something.
No, no, no, no.
That was a dream you had.
That was a dream.
You Venmo'd me.
Nope.
Because you were paying me back for it.
Never.
Dude, I have deja vu of you Venmoing.
I had a dream last night where all I remember about it
was that I had a corduroy jacket
and then I had a corduroy shirt under it.
And I thought to myself, interesting choice.
And that's all I remember about the,
there were different colors.
Two nights ago, I had a dream about recording a podcast.
Whoa!
That is, I say this sincerely, whack.
Yeah, you're not getting paid for working in your dreams.
Yeah, yesterday, I don't know when it'll come out,
but yesterday we did something with the Smosh team
for a little bit.
I don't know if we're allowed to talk about it,
but it was a little bit of a little
sad boys focused thing.
I really enjoy, in a different way than doing sad boys,
I really enjoy guesting together on stuff.
Yeah, that's fun.
It's just a different dynamic, and they were asking questions that weren't even like, I really enjoy guesting together on stuff. Yeah, that's fun.
It's like just a different dynamic.
And they were asking questions that weren't even like miles away from topics we talk about
on the show.
But I think there's something different about answering a question to someone that has no
expectation of what the answer is.
Like if we ask one another a question, like, I kinda know what you would think, right?
We talked about it, we know each other.
But, and we knew, this host we're friends with,
but these kind of questions are sourced from audiences.
And so they're asking questions.
Yeah, they like will post about it and get,
I guess so, they have to post about it to get assumptions.
So we can say that we did it
because they had to post about it.
But we did like assumptions with sad boys.
And I'm a little bit like, I said this at the end,
I don't know if it'll make the cut, where I'm like,
I feel a little bit of imposter syndrome,
because I'm like, hey guys, it's your content strategy
if you want to have us on, but I can't promise
this'll do gangbusters.
You know?
I don't know how to help but recommend against it.
Yeah, there's a strong part of me
that wants to recommend against it,
or to say no simply because in my mind I'm like,
it's not in your best interest to have me on.
That's kinda how I feel.
I'm like, this won't be good for views.
This one, I don't have that kinda pull.
That's kinda, that's how, like the first instinct I have
because I feel like I always need to be offering someone
something in order to be in a place.
Like, oh, you invited me to a party. Can I
help set up? Can I do something? Can I like help Jacob deliver hot dogs? Because it makes
me feel like I'm earning my keep. And I know that I don't, in those cases, I don't have
to earn my keep, but it's a weird imposter syndrome I have in like a lot of situations
that I'm in.
Yeah, that's an interesting one. Do you prefer hosting as a result?
Because then you kind of define, it's locked in,
it's preset.
Yeah, hosting is, I prefer simply because not only that,
but then I have like a list of dialogue,
NPC dialogue options that are like easy for me to access.
You can exhaust the lines.
They're all gray by the end.
No matter what I'm saying to anyone,
if I become at the slightest bit uncomfortable, I can be like, go over there fix me what's that oh no and it's all and it's like no one's ever making me uncomfortable nothing is ever wrong it's just all these like little battles and fighting in my own head.
And that, you know, we were talking to, I don't know if they announced who the host of that would be,
so I won't say it, but we were talking to the host
of that thing for that episode,
who's someone we like really like,
and who said that they're a fan of the show,
which I really appreciate.
And, but I think on both parties' side,
we tend to like be in our own little bubbles,
at least as he had described to me
and I kind of described as well. And it's one of those things where, oh, if I'm not
reaching out, it doesn't mean that I don't value you as a potential friend. It's that
I'm in my own little bubble right now.
Yeah. I mean, I hope they keep it in as it was because maybe people think it sounds strange
because of the way the edit is, but I really did very inorganically suddenly say, I like you, person's name. I wish that
we could, I hope that this is the stage where we move from acquaintances to friends because
I do want to be your friend. And I, I, it literally, it seems like I was just being
quirky, but it just found me. I thought it was really sweet. It caught me. I was like,
oh, I guess I had a similar thing where I complimented their work.
And we're being really cagey because I guess it'll
be fun for people when they find out or they won't know.
You crack the code.
Can you crack the code?
Especially if they review it and they're like,
this does suck.
I guess this isn't going up.
So yes, Jordan, I have been watching documentaries lately.
Brother, you're on a damn tear.
No, I'm just kidding.
You bounce around from like something, it's like,
oh, I wonder how many houses got built in the year 2015.
And then I wonder how many babies got exploded.
That's honestly, those are the, the polls that I oscillate between.
But before I get into Jarvis's documentary dive, Jordan, how was your week?
Very socially drained default,
but a couple moments of defeating it
for meeting up with someone or doing something.
And some of them, I think, like the logistics,
as far as like breaking the seal and just doing the thing,
is it's happened enough now
that I will put faith that it will then be fun
and it will go over.
And the stakes are low.
Cause it's one of those things where it's like
getting the energy to go do the thing is the hard part.
But then once you're there, you're like, oh,
I'm glad I went.
And the momentum to actually follow through in my case
is if I'm involved, kind of like you're saying with a role,
if I'm involved in setting it up,
whether or not it's at my house,
if like, I don't know,
if John hits us up and is like, we're having a party.
And then I reach that day, maybe it's a record day,
maybe I just had to do a bunch of chores,
maybe I did some like.
The first instinct I have when you say that, by the way,
is me going, oh, you still think of me as a friend I'm sorry I haven't are you sure I'm sorry I
haven't reached out lately you're wrong I think very kindly yeah but then like
that that happens and then well it's someone else's thing so I will review
how I am at the time but if I'm even like tacitly involved in like hey let's
all meet up at this bar and but there's 40 people and it wouldn't matter if I
turned up.
Right.
I'm so like, well, I, my blood is in the deal.
I made a deal.
And in these cases, it wasn't, I managed to actually like, cause it was a couple of people
that texted me and then I was like, yes, yes, I will meet up and do that thing you're saying.
And I certainly don't regret it.
It was very fulfilling and it was very like memorable.
It's nice to have something to journal even in the back of your head.
But then the other like, I've been dwelling a lot on
visa stuff, not in a like super painful way, but it is like,
it's a dread that is always hard to explain because it's, uh,
it is justified. It's the, the falling into a spiral about it,
that's not rational or whatever you want to call it.
But the anxiety is, it's kind of like waiting
for blood test results, and people are like,
it'll be fine.
I'm like, it could not be fine.
That could be something that happens.
Even if I take a like every on some
relit relatively regular cadence I'll take like a STI screen Joe for Mike but
there's nothing I'm concerned about but it is a thing where I'm like after
enough time has gone by you know it's like just checking in. Sure. Which is what you're supposed to do.
It is like standard.
And there is a slight fear every time I click the results,
like, is there something I don't know about?
Yeah.
Which, and then also, this sounds crazy,
but it's one of those things that lands and you're like,
well, it's not over.
That's not, it's not like being like, Hey, you're anemic.
Maybe take some iron.
It would be like going like, that's every time I've done it.
I've thought to myself like, look, if this is something I need, there's communication
now.
The anxiety can be kind of viral, right?
It like spreads from something that makes sense to a play catastrophizing.
The catastrophizing is it keeps like one, it like a one-up sminship like the fear
I'm stressed about like furnishing, but it finds its way to oh my god
What if I'm dying like I'm 2048 that game where like the two the numbers get
We're playing connections and you're like well what makes sense to me. I guess I'm stupid. I don't know
How the fuck are you I'm sorry Jesus. I'm good. I'm fine. I'm chillin
Been playing a bunch of runescape started an Iron Man. It's going well. Just finished monkey madness one
Working on Barrow's gloves probably gonna get them today
Zenn state
We have we have peeps on the ones and twos over there
Um, and we have, we have peeps on the ones and twos over there.
Dating this, the, the shooting star.
Yeah.
Um, I can't look at the screen or else I get distracted.
Um, okay. So I've been on my documentary kick still.
I also, okay.
On the, okay.
There's a few things that I want to talk about that you talked about.
So one, I've been doing this thing where I just get so tired.
I'm still trying to figure out the fatigue thing and it's, it's still tough, I've been doing this thing where I just get so tired.
I'm still trying to figure out the fatigue thing.
It's still tough, but sometimes if I'm planning to go out in the evening,
I will just shift when I take my ADHD medication.
After the Super Bowl party that Jacob and I were both at, me and one of our friends decided we were gonna watch Severance.
And so, on like a Saturday, I took my medicine
at like 3 p.m. to go over to my friend's house
and watch like half of the episodes of Severance
and then we watched the other half on a later date.
So now I'm fully caught up,
and today, episode six of season two is coming out,
and I've been, I've fully become the version of myself
that was like watching Lost back in high school
because I'm like consuming all these like theory videos
and I'm reading all this like extra content.
I'm a fucking private eye with that show.
I guess every fucking twist and I'm right every fucking time.
I've been batting really well I've been batting really well.
Do you have, did you see the stuff about the season six preview?
The season six preview season six, the episode six.
I genuinely thought maybe that's like a really
the preview. No, there was a, I stayed blind. Yeah. I mean,
I just got sent it from one of my friends, but um, I
Won't I won't spoil anything but yeah, so that's been a thing that has been
Interesting because I feel like I have to like take a medication to like it's like taking my normal pills
Do you is it good? Do you normally have like an extent because I take it twice a day
So I always have it in the afternoon. Yeah as well. Well, I I'm cause I take it twice a day. So I always have it in the afternoon as well. Well, I'm starting to take it twice a day.
Yeah.
I'm just trying to figure out what the like dosage is
and stuff like that.
And I think that may just have to be the normal thing.
Cause I'm not having trouble.
The biggest fear I had before was like sleeping at night.
If I had like my ADHD meds in my system,
but that hasn't recently been an issue.
So yeah, I've always,
that's it seems like soft science to me.
Like people will throw that out there.
Same way people say like, can't have caffeine after three.
I'm like, it's so conditional.
No, no, for me it like, uh,
I would take it at like 2 PM and then I would be up till three,
like in just could not sleep. Um, I think reason,
I guess I'm a bad study cause I would be, I, I, I,
I just like know that like normally I, I have my normal time that I I would be a- I just know that normally I have my normal time
that I go to bed, and if I can't go to bed
at my normal time, then it just messes everything up.
And so that becomes my fear.
But recently it's been fine, or it's been on weekends
and days where everything's a little bit weird anyway.
So it is more art than science in terms of looking
at my plan for the day and trying to figure out
how I navigate through it.
Still tired, still took my meds this morning and drink coffee. So, um...
That's why I didn't eat.
Yeah.
Or I'd say we got lunch prior.
Yeah.
But I know I'm cro-cro-crushing.
I needed it.
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We talked a lot about documentaries before this
and we just moved it over to Sadboy's Nights
because I wouldn't shut up.
So.
I mean, it's like I get lost in like,
I like learning and I forget that I need to like contribute.
And so I always feel bad when like, because I like it when I don't know a very specific, like not don't know anything about, but when I'm like, I don't know how to learn stuff, generally, especially about like, if I have to watch and read things myself, you just need Jarvis to tell you about it. It did.
I mean, it's why I got back into magic is I like bridge the gap from where I was to
where I could, you know, it's like, oh, they do sets.
Oh, universe is beyond you say, you know?
Yeah.
Final Fantasy is happening.
And everyone's fine.
Everyone and everyone's being weird. The short of the Jarvis documentary deep dive is I watched a horrible documentary about
Gabby Petito who is like a van life YouTuber who was just starting her career and was taken
too soon by allegedly by her boyfriend who is allegedly a horrible person and I think
is a horrible person.
Allegedly based on evidence.
And based on evidence, but unfortunately for reasons they weren't able to try him in court
because he's not around to be tried.
Because in my opinion, he is a coward.
And then I watched to sort of compliment sandwich that,
I watched the Court of Gold documentary
about the US men's Olympic team
that not just covers the US,
but covers France and Serbia and Canada,
and gives a lot more context
about the role of international basketball,
and I thought it was really sweet.
And it also made me cry at the end.
So-
In a more kind of cathartic way than depressing way.
Right, yeah, in a more like, this is beautiful way.
And yeah, so I yapped at length about those things
on Sad Boys Night, so if you're interested,
you can head on over to patreon.com slash sadboys
to get some of that.
But we gotta talk about woke.
Brother.
I can't believe these videos exist.
It feels like a parody from like 2016.
I literally thought it would.
Like I saw it.
In fact I'm still not sure that it is.
This is too funny.
I'm still not sure that it isn't.
Oh, the Chad face cover photo.
It's got everything.
It's got like the silhouette.
It's got the silhouette thing.
Is he in a space suit?
Yeah, it looks like a space helmet.
Classic silhouette, including the facial hair and glasses
of the owner of the channel.
And a skull, right?
So half is his face and half his skull.
Well, half is the post-pigmentation.
Well, usually I go to the banner
because the banner gives me an idea
of what type of Chad you are.
Oh, there it is.
So badass, dude.
There it is.
Some of the center of his face.
Yeah, it's like the least,
it's like the most Chad parts of his.
You had to get the cheekbones and the brow line
and otherwise no other part of his face.
None of his muscular neck or huge jawline.
We skipped that.
Oh, these are amazing.
Yeah, these thumbnails and titles,
like it feels like parody.
Can we just go to all videos?
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Let's knock a few titles out here.
Gross, two dudes kissing, gross.
What's the most popular video on this channel?
Who killed masculinity.
The postification of video games.
Why are video games so gay now?
Dude, this person is, okay, I feel,
there's an issue that I have with titles and thumbnails
where you sometimes feel like you're just doing
keyword soup, and the fact that they just put out a video
called DEI the Game and then a video six months ago called
Is This DEI the Game?
Saying that Skill Up is super woke and that they're woke.
I feel like we should watch
Why Are Video Games So Gay Now?
Sorry, just to look at it.
Or Who Killed Masculinity?
Wait no, Who Killed Masculinity?
You know what, you can tell by the thumbnail because they don't
Make all the duty games anymore. Oh, they don't right? Yeah, they got rid of those Jacob. Could you Google like a
List of Call of Duty games by year. It's probably like one per decade, right?
Yeah, like maybe just one or two it wouldn't every century
Yeah, they wouldn't I multiple studios so they can come out of it. No. Yeah, they wouldn't just put them out in
2024 2023 2022 2021 Yeah. They wouldn't hire multiple studios so that they can come out every single year. No, yeah. They, they wouldn't just put them out in 2024, 2023, 2022, 2021,
2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016,
2015, 2017, 2013, 2012, 2011,
Oh, 2010 and then three mobile versions. 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005.
Oh!
2004.
They skipped 2004.
Lazy.
That's actually when it began, was after Call of Duty 1.
Just kidding, they put out Call of Duty United offensively.
They actually put out two games in 2004.
But you can imagine they missed it, you know what I mean?
So you can imagine that if they had not put out 50 Call of Duty games in the last 20 years. If something else had
happened. If something completely different had happened there like
wouldn't be any Call of Duty games. You can imagine that right? We got to watch
this one next by the way 2005 military games versus 2025 military games but
but first but first the...
That's what happened to the army, dude.
Anybody else feel like...
Okay, oh, it's one of these.
Does anybody else feel like masculinity has slowly been drained from modern video games?
Finally.
I was looking at recent staff photos of Ubisoft and Halo Infinite.
Why were you doing that?
Okay, wait.
There is absolutely no way that this is not a photo from, like, say a careers page about
the women of Ubisoft.
Women of Ubisoft org or something like that.
And by the way, it's a room of exclusively white women.
Yeah.
But because of DEI, dude.
Because of DEI.
Well, that's why they have their hair blue, because it's colored.
So after scouring the internet for the source of this image, we learned that this is definitely
not from Ubisoft.
It's from Akebeki Korea's, several different Akebeki Korea's pages.
Is Kubeki how you say?
Quebecois?
Quebecois.
Some XQC style pages.
But anyway, I feel like he just Googled women with blue hair in photo.
I think he Googled scariest thing to me.
Okay.
Nightmare I'd have.
White liberal women have no interest in masculine, manly, male characters.
This image actually that's about to come up is notoriously an image from like a, a three,
four, three, four, three event.
This one gets passed around a lot.
Now, if you have a child's mind, which, you know,
is for the audience of somehow adults,
but with children's mind, this is scary, right?
Women.
Right. Yeah. Okay.
They have never worked.
They have never been amongst a community.
Right. Do they think 30 people made Halo Infinite?
That game is in development for 180 years.
I just don't understand how, like, if you see a group of women who work at a company together taking a photo,
your instinct is these are the...
Like, you had women work on the game so it's bad.
And this isn't even like, you don't even know what roles
have these people, these people can be in fucking accounting.
Yeah, this could be just in the admin area.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They have no idea.
Like not that that matters by the way,
but I'm just saying like even in the world
that they are imagining where it's like,
ah, a woman's place is at the reception desk. It does feel like, Oh,
you have a female receptionist. This is why video games are.
They got in the way, huh? They grabbed the TV and grabbed the controller.
The reason why I know this video is for babies is because anyone with
critical thinking skills would be like,
I don't think there are any all female game design companies. Sadly, I wish there
were but there aren't.
Not at a triple A scale at the very least.
All of these women together, there's no way that they all worked on Halo Infinite and
no one else did. And no one else did.
343 has had the license for Halo for over a decade at this point,
which would make them have started back when he said games were good.
And every single 343 Halo was bad.
If I was this guy's English teacher, I would fail him based on the fact that he...
You've given no supporting evidence other than a picture
of people vaguely connected to your point.
Catch her in the rye and it's photo of the book.
Yeah, that's my essay.
If you'll notice, one of them has a Dungeons and Dragons
shirt on and it's got gay rainbow, gay flag,
trans gay people back.
Get that shit out of here.
No, not in my masculine video games.
Fuck.
I didn't sign up to the...
I didn't sign up to the consensual Call of Duty
draft of every year since 2003.
To be
disrespected by the woke.
Me, a veteran.
Virtually speaking.
I've served in many tours.
I served in the modern wars.'ve served in the modern wars.
I served in the modern wars too.
The black ops spores.
Yeah, dude.
I even served for the global offensive.
I fought in the infinite warfare, if you could believe it, which took a while.
Dude, I fought for reach.
Dude, they're afraid.
That's what's so weird is it's just fear.
Like they scan across, look how fulfilled
everyone is in the photo.
Look at that one person there
with the kind of pinkish-publish hair.
Look how incredibly happy they are.
They love where they are.
They're at Bugsby's.
They're happy because they've ruined gaming.
That's right.
They're actually like sleeper agents.
They hate it.
Why do they hate games? Remind me.
No, just kidding.
We're not like, we've only got 19 seconds.
If we haven't given them the chance to make their point.
So I'm going to stop judging a book by its cover.
Writing why this guy's bad.
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Yeah, it's like she actually if you if that woman was real, she wouldn't be able to stand
Yeah
Lara Croft could not physically
Run or jump or swim.
I found something really fucking upsetting.
Say it ain't so.
Jacob, click the link I just sent you at your own risk.
Well, I'm just glad that Rockstar is around
so that we can really get real games,
you know what I mean?
Meet some of the talented women behind the games
from Rockstar North, dude, fuck!
No!
No!
But they didn't make Red Dead!
Please tell me none of them have blue hair.
One of them has red hair, I can see.
No!
Purple!
Big! No!
Girl! I actually always hated Red Dead 2, by the way.
I changed my mind.
None of these women can write a game for rock star to save their lives if they
Yeah, here we go in the comments now. We're fucked. I see why GT
GT6 I don't even fucking know the name of the fucking game. I like dude. I'm so mad
I couldn't even type the a hey, dude
If you're telling me that 80% of the development team of GTA 6 all women's
We're done. We're done
development team of GTA 6 all women's. We're done. We're done.
This is why Rockstar, a company founded by men that at least in 2018 was still mostly run by men, created the magnum opus
Red Dead Redemption 2.
With a there's a guy with a cowboy hat.
If you want to see the seismic shift away from masculine
characters, honestly, all you need to do is play a few
games from 2006 and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.
Consider how many masculine milk...
Google Sonic Frontiers release date.
Wait no, Sonic 06 release date.
Google Sonic 06 release date.
Wait a second, that one came out in 2006.
But he's... Well the most masculine man ever.
Well, he's cool and he has a child bride in that game
for some reason.
Don't you play a woman in some of the Silent Hill games?
Stop talking about that.
The funny thing about this is all of it.
Is this guy's brain. Yeah, dude, that's crazy.
The funny thing is, this is kind of like how people will complain about the old days, but
it's really just that you didn't have your brain poisoned by like noticing whenever you
saw a woman to be upset when you enjoyed things in the past.
Yeah.
If in like 2010 I acquired arachnophobia and then I was
like, remember 2005 before spiders? Well, there were no spiders.
Remember back when everything was okay? Yeah. There were seven legged hairy freaks, dude.
Which was fine to me. Which doesn't trigger my arachnophobia.
It's like, I just, it's correlation, not causation, right? Or whatever. It's like, I used to be
not miserable and now I don't love games anymore.
And it's definitely not because I've lost
the capacity for fulfillment.
Yeah, like I saw someone tweeting about how MrBeast
was in the NBA All-Star game, which is a thing that happened.
That rocks.
And they were like, my friend Kofi tweeted,
if this had been Dude Perfect,
I think it would have gone over better.
And then someone was like, Dude Perfect
in the big year 2025.
And then someone was like,
they still get a billion views.
You just grew up.
You're just from space.
You just are older now and you think that,
like I sometimes get DMs from people that are like,
wow, you're still around.
Yeah, I didn't fucking die.
What would happen? I, like, wow, you're still around. Yeah, I didn't fucking die. What would happen?
Did you just develop object permanence?
I don't fucking exist when,
like cease to exist when you're not thinking about it.
Did you think the views were you?
Yeah.
You thought that was all.
Yeah, it's like, you're not, it's like,
but people naturally do this and I don't know why,
but I feel like this is the most extreme version of it
where you use it to project your own,
your current perception of the world.
Yeah.
What you said about-
Contrasted with like your previous perception of the world.
You know, well, you know what, like the phenomena is, and I never, it's never an excuse.
It's just more of like a, a something that ties it kind of together for me is epidemic
of loneliness and lack of communal
like cohesion, right?
And in this case, no, it's not the games that you liked more back then.
It's the fact that your friends that grew up and got married at the time was still on
Xbox Live.
You could play with them and feel like you're in a community.
Yeah, it is.
This is like our lack of third spaces has led to the wokeness in video games.
I agree with you.
I think that if I have an anxiety of which I have many, there are little triggers that
exist in the world that'll like make trigger my anxiety and I'll be like, I don't like
that feeling.
Right. I don't like that feeling, right? And these people who behave this way,
in my view, have Pavlovian conditioned themselves
to the stimulus of seeing bright colors or women
to making them think,
because video games are bigger than ever,
they're more successful than ever.
I think that because so many people,
especially with gaming, have placed so much
of their identity in the identity of being a gamer,
that even the label being applied.
Still somehow.
Because if you say, for example, in 2010,
it was easy to trigger someone by saying someone
who plays Candy Crush as a gamer.
You know what I mean?
That doesn't count somehow in a nebulous kind of way.
That's not the game,
because that's not the type of games that I play.
Now it is coded in the same, like this,
I don't know Candy Crush, but like, you know, this is,
it's Unity, but like it's Hello Kitty Island Adventure,
so it's not like a game.
No, it's actually like different.
Have you played gears of war? You know that like, um,
classic cartoon image of a skeleton drinking something.
It just goes like through their ribs and stuff immediately. Instead of them,
digesting it, it goes straight to shit. It goes like, no, wait,
why don't I like the feeling I'm having? Who did this to me?
The crazy thing is like how much fear there is
just in the first 30 seconds of this video.
It's like this person, this is based out of fear.
This guy's like not to dog whistle, but.
Whistle.
Whistle.
Whistle. My whistling didn't work.
So on sad boys, right, I'm thinking like, okay, put myself in the position of like the adolescent
boy who is watching this content and is just taking this stuff at face value and how does
that impact their view of the world?
And that's where I think the harm is,
because if this is just like 30 year old dudes
in their own echo chamber of like women hating,
there's only so far that that could spread.
Because they don't have communities.
Yeah.
So it's not gonna get to anyone.
But the fear is that on, when exacerbated
by these algorithms, they can like take an idea
or a seed of an idea
that someone has in their head
and confirm that with false logic.
Earth is flat type things.
It's like, oh, okay, the Earth is flat.
I'm watching Love is Blind right now,
and there's a guy who's really into conspiracy theories,
and he's like, have you heard of this?
And it's like the emeralds
of underneath the Egyptian pyramid of Teton or something like that.
And it's like, I Google it and it's like,
the first thing is explaining where this hoax came from.
And like-
It created vaccines, did you know that?
And I just, I wanna remain empathetic to someone who like,
clicks on a video like this,
because the person who's making the video is exploiting.
Exploiting that fragility in that kind of weakness
in a pop, what I see as a weakness in a populous.
That is not the part that's even worth like,
or like the part worth challenging, right?
Is like, well people, people feeling insecure,
that's kind of an unsolvable problem.
At least that's like the water rises, the more people that get in it.
Like the more people kind of acknowledge the truth
and are a little bit more productive, the easier it's going to be for everyone.
But right now, people are super stratified.
They don't feel like they have connections or support networks by default.
They wanna build something like that,
but they don't understand how all of a sudden
nobody else is in the Discord server that I made
that we used to play with, what's going on?
They started dating someone.
Well, then it's her fault and she sucks.
Girlfriend Diva.
I get how this stuff starts.
When people are critiquing stuff like this,
the thing they usually do point to is, um, the people that are active online about it, right?
At the self ascribed gamer guys, the people doing, there should be ethics and
games journalism yelling at people online.
But I think a more insidious damage it's doing is to the exactly the people you're
talking about is kids that got really posting. They're not that public, maybe on a friend's discord, you're talking about, is kids that aren't really posting.
They're not that public.
Maybe on a friend's Discord they're saying something,
but the place that they're posting
is to the people in their life.
And the worst thing about that
is that someone who is otherwise normal
and has a normal support system,
a normal group of friends,
and otherwise non-objectionable beliefs
or inoffensive beliefs beliefs is gonna listen to this,
maybe become a fan of a channel like this
because it confirms some underdeveloped thoughts
that they had and then at a party,
randomly be like, yeah, but I think that's
because they stopped hiring men
and they made games too masculine
and then everyone at the party is gonna be like,
what the hell is his problem?
And they start eroding that friendship.
And then it pushes them further away.
Well, why did this, cause I said the truth?
It's like when someone gets into QAnon and they're like,
I've lost my entire friend group
cause no one is willing to acknowledge the truth.
And it's like, no.
Or because of the pizza gate.
Pizza gate took my friends away.
It's not everyone else is crazy.
Why does everyone go smell like shit?
It's like it's not that right.
It Occam's razor right?
Like, okay, start with the simplest explanation.
And is it more likely that if everyone has a chance,
even if everyone had a 90% chance of being wrong,
you would encounter so many people in your life
that were wrong that the statistics would still be that you were more likely to be wrong than literally
everyone else you meet in your life.
But it's, uh, it's what is it?
It's almost like gambler's fallacy where you're like, well, I've said, I've lost 50 friends.
I gotta keep going until I win.
I cannot be wrong.
If you select for a community of gamblers, that's going to exacerbate.
That's going to be like the fucking accelerator for those beliefs and behaviors. If you select for a community of gamblers, that's gonna exacerbate, that's gonna be
like the fucking accelerator for those beliefs and behaviors.
I have had a handful, I'm sure we've all had people in life,
a handful of friends from childhood that like,
you know, ever since I moved here,
it's been tricky to keep up with people,
especially from my hometown,
I went from hometown to college to here,
so there wasn't a lot of reconnecting.
And then when I do chat to someone,
I'm like, hey, what's this person up to?
And they're like, I haven't seen him in a while.
I'm like, oh, what about this guy?
He's like, oh yeah, we hang out all the time.
What about this guy we hang out all the time?
Then I will briefly go back to the UK
or get a DM from that person
and then see what they're up to.
And they are the one that got into Jordan Peterson.
They are the one that has pivoted to liking stuff
from the Babylon Bee.
It is never, well, my other friends really got into baseball
and they hated baseball.
It is always their passion
that destroys the things around them.
But they like to pretend that they're being excluded.
That you're ruining my games, not I'm ruining your time.
And that's like why I want, I,
sometimes it's unavoidable,
because I see stuff like this,
and my first instinct is to clown on it for being stupid,
but I don't want to alienate the people
who do resonate with stuff like this, because-
It's a shame.
Because it's, I, because I don't want to be a person
who's just creating a team and just
doing team sports back and forth.
The issue with things like this is it silos people off and removes them much in the way
that an abusive partner might remove them from their loved ones or their support systems.
And then they can only find support within this like,
sort of toxic identity.
Yeah, and I don't have any grievances
with the 14 year old that opens one of these videos.
Yeah, or the 30 year old who's like opening their mind
for the first time, because people are,
everyone's on a different journey.
The thing that always hits me is, yes,
there's like a tiny little piece of my, you know,
trad mask trying to climb in there.
It always will.
It's always going to be a case of me like, you know, it's a tinnitus.
It's always holding.
Well, there's a part of me that thinks I could beat all of them in a fight and also in a
video game.
Yes.
And then I go like, okay, well, the truth is, is it's not about who's a better representative
of their gender identity.
And it's not only about like who's a better advocate and ally of other people in their life.
Those things do like can matter if it's something value,
but I'm just so much happier than all of these guys.
And if that is the thing that you are prioritizing and this problem is making
you miserable,
I don't feel like you do and I didn't solve it by tearing other, like other people that
are not involved down. That's what's so insane. It's really funny because it's like, you could
talk about it the same way you would as someone going, and then I found God and like, I found
like meeting in my life, but truly it's just like, let go of the hate and let go. And like,
and that's the tough thing is like, I have this,
it's like I was playing a game recently
and something was like, a thing was difficult for me
that I hadn't practiced and wasn't immediately good at.
And there's a part of me that like felt bad about myself.
And I'm like, I just have to let go, because I'm the only one
who is holding myself to this standard and this expectation,
and it doesn't actually affect anything in my life.
Did I went to a bar the other day,
and they had like Smash Brothers, right?
They just had like little CRT, no, not CRT set up.
I don't think they had melee, but they were playing,
they were playing ultimate, yeah.
And I, it's been a minute, right?
Since I dabbled and it's,
melees, my comfort zone even more so, though I do suck.
There is some part of me that very, very, very briefly,
I immediately lost.
The player was good.
I did okay. Actually managed to get a genuinely skill-based falcon, but I don't want The player was good. I did okay.
Actually managed to get a genuinely skill-based Falcon.
But I don't want to get into it.
There was, oh, Peeps is appalling, thank you.
There is genuinely a part of me that like,
snapped for half a second, it like caught me.
And I went, in my head, this is bullshit
because they wouldn't let me customize it
so that I don't have jump up analog.
Because it makes it, it's suboptimal. I wouldn't let me customize it so that I don't have jump up analog. Oh yeah. Because it makes it, that's suboptimal.
I wouldn't even play.
And it came in because I didn't want to set that,
because it got in the way, right?
I'm here to play and I don't want to be a problem.
But then I'm falling off the cliff and I grab my own arm
and they're like, it's okay.
Yeah.
I know.
And it couldn't matter because what happened
is that person had fun and ultimately he's alright.
Oh yeah dude, I'm at the arcade that has like
Guitar Hero Arcade Edition that's based on Guitar Hero 3
and I click into the metal by Tenacious D
and I start going
and then and then as it keeps going,
my forearm starts getting hot
because I'm playing it on expert.
And I haven't played guitar here on expert
since I was in high school.
And my hands start cramping up and I start messing up.
And I'm like, no, no, no, I know I can do this.
I can do this.
I'm a bad guy for this, of course.
I can do it.
No, guys, it's just it's kind of,
if I was playing with my own controller.
It's just been a while.
And also that can be like, you know,
noticeable for an expert frame delay when you're playing
on the arcade.
I don't want to get into it.
I could do through the fire and flames.
I promise I could do it on expert.
I know how to do the orange is extra firm and I think this could not a lot of people
play on experts.
So maybe they wouldn't understand that.
Right.
And they put this weird plate on it because it's at the arcade and they don't want people
to damage the controller.
But what I'm saying is I'm a valid man.
And then you take us away and you're like, that was like nice. It was nice playing guitar
here. It was fun actually to see you and it was good. Uh, we should do this again sometime.
We should do it. You have red eyes and crying. I had so much fun. It was really good. Have
you noticed that there's women? There's something that happens where we start, uh, we forget
who we should be sort of like pointing fingers at.
It's like-
Especially in America.
Yeah, like the 14 year old boy or however old
who watches videos like this,
it's like, it's kind of not their fault,
but this guy is at fault who's making the videos
because he is actively exploiting the shame and fear
and everything.
Much as I want to, I try my best not to blame the person who bought into the meme coin that
got bugged.
We don't do gambling ads, not because I think like we don't have an audience that understands
the context of it and could be like, well, no, they're doing okay.
They're getting the bag. That's good, but I'm not gonna start gambling.
But there will be people that watch this and go like,
oh, I guess Jarvis and Jordan genuinely like gambling.
They must, they're doing the ad.
And even if, the thing is, even if I, and I don't,
but even if I did enjoy gambling,
because I have tons of friends who do,
like going to Vegas or like betting on like a random sports
game or something between friends.
Like there's a whole different line between promoting it.
And you can say like, well, that's not who our audience is. We're kind of like speaking in the
sense that we would to adults. And like, right, but you know, people that aren't are watching it.
Exactly.
You're really going to pretend. Consider how many masculine military games came out
in the 2000s.
Medal of honor, call of duty, brothers in arms.
These are world war II.
Operation flash point, rainbow six, ghost recon,
splinter cell.
All of these games were starring men
and had themes like brotherhood, duty, sacrifice.
Yeah, cause they're war games.
Are you like a baby?
That's a child's interpretation of brothers in arms.
They had themes about brothers, brotherhood.
Arms.
A call of duty.
Alexa, divine selection bias.
Jesus Christ.
This is like, what is your fucking media literacy
aptitude?
Zero negative number man I wish they made even
more military sim shooters now oh they do by several thousand times yeah and
like why these types of games still exist why can't other games exist there's
nothing wrong with these games other than copaganda but like the other than
lots of things yeah other than lots of things but but like playing these games other than Copaganda, but like the... Other than lots of things.
Yeah, other than lots of things.
But like playing these games
and enjoying these games as a kid,
whatever, like I have no, whatever, I don't care.
But like presenting that is like
that was the bastion of masculinity.
It's just so silly.
Those games all still exist.
They still exist, many of them have sequels.
Remember six, fortunately, in the last few years, and no games for about 10. They exist. Many of them have sequels. Remember six, fortunately in the last few years and no games for about 10 years.
Sad.
Literally.
Not only did these games often get re-releases.
I cannot fucking explain to you how many dad style millsims like a military sim games,
litter steam, open steam and scroll once without finding one of them. It is stacked with them the same way there's a million like hunting games that we don't
play because they're not for us.
Also, hey consumer, you ever consider the fact that these games exist because of the
market forces that allow for a video game market for you to buy into them?
So you were just a willing customer.
And now that there are more customers to consume more media,
there's more media that is available
to more types of customers.
Customers who-
We live in a capitalist house game,
and all you are is a fucking dollar sign to these people.
That's isolated yourself and won't word of mouth
a game to anyone, because you don't talk to anyone.
So why would they possibly make that for you? Right, so it's like the only reason that there are more games that appeal to more people
is because there are more people playing games. There is more games being made. This is a world
where like there weren't that many games made there. Like if you look at the number of studios
games, there's just more. So many. It's like being like, why isn't Elvis on the radio anymore?
It used to just be that
Elvis was on all the time. Too much Kendrick is on and it's removed Elvis from the radio.
Right. It's like, no, we live, there's been a proliferation of genre and, and just the
amount of games that exist in the world. There are, of unplayed games in Steam libraries.
We talked about that before.
There are so many SWAT simulator games though.
So many.
Ready or Not was like one of the hugest games
on Twitch for a while.
But that was a year and a half ago.
It's basically before women.
Anyway, this episode is sponsored by War Thunder,
a realistic military mobile game simulator.
Sorry, that is a real, that's
a real mobile game that this episode is not sponsored by, but because of all the women
that are involved, but I watch it my own. I watch enough runescape videos to get it
to get that ad or some gaming let's play. They're like, and that's all like a video.
I say that's January and they go like war thunder, by the way it's you can blow someone
up and let me tell you it's realistic vehicle combat. See, I'm like, war thunder by the way. It's you can blow someone up and let me tell you.
I don't have that.
And it's realistic vehicle combat.
See I'm like, I hate that my brain just attaches to the,
cause anything that's like a song I'll remember.
So it's a realistic vehicle combat.
You can have like a tank and it blows up the way it should.
From the period accurate weaponry.
Yeah.
But they don't have that anymore.
But yeah, it's like, so this is like,
it doesn't have that anymore. Yeah. It's like, so this is like, it doesn't ask
enough questions. I would fail you on your like investigation. I would fail you on your
supporting evidence. I would fail you on the, the lack of acknowledgement of bias in the
reason. So many of these games came out, including metal honor and Brother in Arms, which are licenses that are defunct and or extinct,
is because... I'm pedantic, I know this. Relax.
Is because Call of Duty was such a powerhouse that it was emulated.
Also, they chose the Medal of Honor on PlayStation, the original...
It was several years before. Anyway, now I'm pedantic.
These games were coming out because the audience
was so enormous, and then a lot of studios and publishers
became disillusioned because they would arbitrarily
force in some kind of multiplayer mode,
because Call of Duty 4 changed the game as far as that goes.
And then nobody bought their ones,
because Call of Duty kept coming out.
So then they went for a different demo.
Whenever a big thing is successful
Everything operates on risk mitigation
Anytime that there's a project that takes many millions of dollars and many people to mobilize to make
There are so many cooks in the kitchen that it works on
Risk mitigation the same thing happens in Hollywood movies, right?
If I'm gonna put $200 million into a game, I want it to be the most paint by numbers
thing that guarantees that we capture the audience that we expect to capture.
Whenever something new sprouts up by hook or by crook, by luck, you know, every, every
fucking music executive in the world, every A&R is looking for the next chapel rhone when
they weren't before because they were like,
Oh, they're now okay. Oh, but lady. Oh, but lady Gaga is weird. Okay. We need new weird girls.
Oh, boy bands. We need we, oh, we've got back through boys. We need a Pepsi to their Coke.
We need an instinct because of, uh, it woke in some way, some. It's like all marketing. Like this is just, you're like buying into,
it's crazy cause it's like back in my day,
like it was just boys wearing blue shirts
and now they make like blue shirts for women as well.
And like what happened to the masculinity in blue shirts?
Four, and that's the thing is,
cause what they can never say out loud,
what they can never admit is that the reason is as simple
and insidious as it always was is that exec people at an executive level, they have zero
interest in your relationship with these games. They've any product is produced cynically,
including the stuff I like. But yeah, but this arrogance that it is must be something insidious happening to you and that having
non-cis men involved in production of games that they, it relies on the idea that, and
I'm just going to say women because that's the bundle that they're using.
What they mean is really just anyone that scares them.
But the realizing idea that women are somehow biologically mean.
They want to ruin my game to make me feel bad.
Not they don't care about what I care about.
Also, I want to say that this is all from the higher ups, right?
But once it trickles down to the people actually making the stuff, and these are AAA titles
that we're talking about, but once it trickles down to the people actually making the stuff,
those people put a lot of love and care, blood, sweat, and tears into the stuff that they make.
But the premise of this video is like the boys used to gather around and say,
what kind of boy game do we want to make?
Let's hang out.
And then they're like, ah, we want to make the boy game, but all these Wokeys are around.
And now they won't let us make a big boy battle battalion, you know?
And they don't... This guy, big boy battle battalion, you know?
And they don't, this guy, I know that anyone attached to this kind of ideology.
They also don't understand why they like this.
They think, yeah, I was born a boy so I like this.
No, you were conditioned to like this. Yeah. And you were played.
And now you're nostalgic for the past.
That's related. That's what's relatable.
Is that, oh, I really wish they made a Metabots game
like the one on Game Boy Advance that I played when I was 12. That game was amazing.
I don't get new releases of Ninja Gaiden. I keep getting remasters of Ninja Gaiden 2
because Ninja Gaiden 3 didn't sell very well. It's not because people decided that I don't
get Ninja games because they hate me.
They don't want to make Super Smash Brothers Melee 2 Electric Boogaloo because of because or a Japanese woman once yeah and I think
maybe she did it if there's any indie game designers watching this listening
if you could make a big boy battle battalion that would be really these
guys you have an audience for sure no but the thing about the thing about indie big boy battle battalion. That would be really cool.
You have an audience for sure.
No, but the thing about the thing about indie games is that
oftentimes they're not as beholden to this.
And so that's how you can have an only up or a Bellatron or something
where it's like a single developer and it proves its market
viability because the upstart cost was achievable by, you know,
like a shoestring budget.
And then like Celeste will come out or Undertale was a target for a long time.
Well, they go like, look how woke this game is.
I'm like, dude, this didn't take resources away from something else.
If this didn't exist, you'd have the same other games.
Guys, Big Boy Battle Battalion 2 was canceled
because all of our developers got swept away
to do Hello Kitty Island adventure.
It's because game development, they only have 400 laptops.
So if Ubisoft is using them all
for Kissing Boys Simulator 2025,
you're not able to use it on I'm Jacked and I'm Cool.
It's more likely that those developers went to work on military simulators for the actual
government.
That's true.
Then they got guns.
They're too busy making real military sim drone strike simulator for like the American
government.
Instead of sticking with the Square Enix Enix and like trying to emulate an American military game
and making $180 a year because they're being underpaid
because they're just crunch and abuse.
Yeah.
Why not play I'm Jacked and I'm Cool
and Kissing Boys Simulator?
You don't get it.
You might like Kissing Boys Simulator.
No!
Dream Daddy. I would not like it.
Dream daddy.
I played some sexy dating sims when I was in middle school.
And I was like, I didn't know anything about anything.
And I was like, let me try and riz up these ladies.
I'm the hero.
And that's how you became the man you are today.
It was like this morning.
You guys walked in and I was finishing monkey man just just one RuneScape quest on my Iron Man.
And I was trying to do a monkey.
I created my various monkey Grigris
and then became a Kuromjin monkey.
I went over to the Ardohin Zoo
and tricked the zoo operator into putting me
in the monkey pen because he was like,
how did you get out?
You're supposed to be a monkey.
And then I talked to one of the monkeys inside
of the monkey pen, took off the Grigri, became a man again
and was like, Mr, I'm trapped in the monkey pen.
And then he had to be like, oh, let me get you out of there.
But really I had smuggled a monkey so that I could take
him back to Ape Atoll.
Anyway, I won't get into it.
Think about it for once.
Nobody like us a real gamer guy, so you don't get it.
But when I was in- That's a game for guys. But in like us a real gamer guy, so you don't get it.
But when I was a guy for guys, but in middle school,
in middle school, I went over to Malcolm's house
in the morning, then I walked over to his computer
and I loaded up ganguro girl, the flash dating Sam.
I heard that.
And then I made the, the, the tanned Japanese girls like me.
Jealous much? And they were anime style. Then I made the tanned Japanese girls like me.
Jealous much? And they were anime style.
We gotta watch more of this video.
All right, we gotta watch more of this video.
We made it 30 whole seconds.
Give me more fellas, please.
Almost all of these franchises have either been killed off,
turned into multiplayer games, or went woke.
I often wonder why so few modern games appeal to me.
And I think another big reason is this.
Everything is just so game.
Clipped!
Is that, that's Apex Legends I think?
Should we make this our sad boys banner from now on?
Everything is gay now is pretty funny.
Gay games is the chapter title.
Why don't things appeal to me?
I think it's because, it's not because of Woke,
it's because you seem to only like war games.
I think you have limited interest.
You're broadening your horizons.
The thing is, getting to war sims and shit.
It's like, the thing that's actually happening
is the standards being set in the moment.
So when, like your Elvis example,
it's like all guys complaining that there's no Westons anymore. It's because Westons don't sell because you
and your friends mostly died from old age. This is like, the demographic is always going
to be expendable income, a demographic that will share games with other people and a demographic
that like has the hardware to play or at least the interest to do it and feel served by stuff, right?
This is, I look at this and I go like,
oh look, they did the haircut.
Oh look, they gave him the haircut that they always do.
And that is me being a critical of the delivery.
But it doesn't make me go like, and they've betrayed me.
When the Wii came out,
did they say like video games are parents now
Yeah, like video is your tennis. It's all dude. Everything's fucking Wii Sports now
It's a cuz but the Wii sold so well
with demographics that previously didn't own game consoles because
It had a broader appeal the PlayStation 2 sold well not only for its gaming library, but because it was a affordable DVD player.
But boys, games for boys, game only for boys.
It is such a solitary experience that this person is having
that they are now projecting onto an entire industry
and population.
I've used it as Apple, obviously, before,
but it really is the shadowboxing,
it's the yelling at someone, and then they
take their AirPods out.
Like I didn't even know we were having an argument.
Sorry.
What'd you say?
And they're like, nothing, it doesn't work.
Think about it cynically.
It's like, it's not someone,
it's not the Martin Luther King of video games going,
we need to put, I had a dream where a black man
was the protagonist of a video game.
And only him.
It's that suits are saying,
we're not selling in these demographics.
Black Panther's popular.
Maybe we make black characters
that have the Killmonger haircut
and only that for some reason.
Almost every character in these new games
is either gay, lesbian, bisexual, trans or something else. Yeah.
That robot included.
Something else by the way is Cis Hettens straight.
Yeah.
And you know, which is, and it's still the majority.
Well, no, what they mean is and something else, which is Cis straight and black.
It's like, it's like, well, the thing you left out is that the majority of them are
still straight.
And if you, if you acknowledge that, then you wouldn't have an argument.
Right. You, it's still straight. And if you, if you acknowledge that, then you wouldn't have an argument. It's very telling. They leave that out, but they also
often don't reference race. And the reason is because everyone knows you're not supposed
to say no, they don't see color. Oh, really? Or something else. Yeah. Or something else
is such a weak final add to the list because it's a catch-all for everything
I was gonna say well with the or something else. He kind of got the whole LGBTQ plus
Yeah, like what happened to a masculine dude with a hot chick on his own?
Oh my idea of Newcomb forever sold like fucking shit. Yeah, it made no money
It was famously the worst-selling sequel of all time after being the one of the most overhyped
Yeah, it's like the marketing for like id software. Just like kind of after creating a bunch of games
What is that Duke nukem? No the gay one? Oh that was apex. Okay apex legends
Cuz Duke nukem was Duke nukem originally id software. No
Published by
Can we look up? Yes Duke Nukem originally id Software? No. Published by...
Can we look up Duke Nukem?
Yes, that and Quake and Doom.
Yeah, that's what I thought, but I just wanna...
Oh, 3D Realms.
3D Realms.
That is different, but...
Yeah, the first two Duke Nukem games, good,
and then they had one that was hyped,
and then the IP got passed around, because money reasons,
because it's a product.
Which is why it was like this.
Also, this is not the resting point of humanity.
Like if you don't do anything manipulative,
we all just settle down and go like,
yeah, probably like a jacked guy.
Yeah, cause like-
That's normal.
Can we have this back?
It's like when they made it, no one wanted it.
That's the short answer.
Yeah, sorry.
They did run, only boys had game consoles.
And they were told this is what they like.
Also, I feel like the original Duke Nukem idea was kind of parody.
It's a joke. It's like this guy is not real.
By the way, I kind of noticed you didn't mention Doom or Doom Eternal,
which are literally, that's exactly what you want, dude.
It's the jackedest, coolest guy who's better at fighting
than all of hell.
That's good, right?
It is funny though,
because it's kind of like American Psycho
or like Rick Sanchez,
where everybody just kind of like misses
the point of the character.
And it's like, oh, this is your guy now?
You wanted Rick Sanchez, this is your hero now?
It's like, and it's fine to like old cheesy action movies, but it's also, you
have to acknowledge that that is not the pinnacle of media.
And it was also being made not only for like artistic output.
It was some of the most cynical era ever.
That's the thing.
It's like we will only boys want to buy games
based on our market data.
Boys are always like,
what, how do we hack the minds of little boys?
You know what this reminds me of?
What makes me think is the coolest shit.
When things were good.
Gillette and other razor companies were like,
we're only selling razors to 50% of the population.
Let's shame women into shaving their legs.
And this is also when skirts started getting shorter.
And so they were like, let's make women shave.
And so they'll buy razors too.
At the time, men weren't like, no, razors are just for us.
No, they were having gay sex at war.
They made sure to make the razors pink so that women knew that they were for them.
So it didn't hurt to touch it.
And the razors were made out of feathers.
I love the idea of Xbox Game Pass, but I swear every time I open it up and look for new games,
there's just so many games that look gay now.
I refuse to play another cutesy 2D
platformer or a game with a cutesy art style by some indie developer anymore. He's just mad that
people are making games that they want to make. Dude, I'm sick of these girls in playing turbo
golf racing. Okay. I was recently reading an insider interview about what went down at
Volition Studios with the disastrous Saints Row reboot from an inside source.
This source said that the LGBTQ community within the company was actually pretty small,
but they are the loudest and the most annoying and the company leadership chose to promote
these people into key roles.
And that's how you get the absolute dumpster fire of a game that was Saints Row 2022.
I think what you have on a lot of these game studios is about 80% of the staff is probably just hetero dudes trying to do their job, but they're afraid of speaking up.
Okay.
So they can't even deny that 80% of the staff is hetero dudes.
They can't get around that because it's just the case, but actually,
but they're being held hostage now.
They're being held hostage by the LGBTQ mafia, which is honestly, they shouldn't have probably
hired them.
They're so afraid of them.
Why get involved with the mob?
Yeah, don't take out a load of the load truck.
I'm imagining them being like, we've got enough of we can refuse.
That's a gay guy talking.
I'm doing a gay guy. Yeah, I want to ask what this guy thinks that gay people are gonna do to them like
You're afraid of
offending them
What are they gonna?
What was the shift between when gay people were like the minority and powerless to when they like took over everything and took over?
Everything yeah, and now and are now holding everything everyone hostage. Yeah, it was one of the cards probably it was one of the call of duties is probably when it changed
Oh, you can do the girl bus when there was a wire gave you can spray the gay out of their hands and make it
Okay
It's like the spider
Rainbows, I'm happier. That's what the Care Bears did
You're right. Oh, I wonder if any of you talks about my little pony friendship.
Oh yeah. Let's keep going.
I also feel like there's this kind of unholy alliance right now between games
journalists, white liberal women at game studios, LGBTQ community.
That's an old, sorry.
You could talk to who gets dragged every day by you.
Yeah. What do you mean?
All seem to be united around one thing.
They actually hate gamers.
They hate gamers.
And who are gamers overwhelmingly?
Well, heterosexual dudes like us, of course.
No, actually.
Like us, that's me.
Actually, who they hate is people who won't shut the fuck up.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like people who aren't just releasing,
they would rather you made let's plays
and just put those out.
No, because it's just annoying
to have someone yapping at you all day.
Like about things that they don't know anything about.
And so you just have to tune it out.
They hate.
Customers don't know what they want.
They hate gamers.
Subway has like taken a ding to its business
because they did a big menu refresh or whatever.
And it's like too many options and it's not as good anymore.
And it's $15 sure, $5 for the line.
But actually, I think the Subway sandwich artists
hate people that eat food.
I think they just hate them.
Yeah, most creators and producers of things
hate the people that they're selling to.
That's how it works.
And that's as far as you can ever go
with this kind of shit is they hate us.
What is the solution? Is the solution to only hire people that love him specifically?
Well, I mean, if what a game developers just like that, it's like a race.
They're protected class.
So we've proven by looking at the list of Call of Duty games that there are plenty of war games
No, but even but outside of Call of Duty. There's like a million other hell at lose
So again ready or not what this guy is saying is not only does he?
Like he just doesn't want to see anything. But yeah, does he maybe wish he saw more representation of people like him
Would it be nice? Maybe his space could be a little safer? You know, like a bubble style safe space.
He wants like a safe space.
It is so funny that he just keeps showing these pictures of normal dudes and it's like
white dudes from 2003.
Which normal men like me.
Yeah, that's what they, well, they're not allowed to exist anymore because of woke.
There's like a similar argument happening with the new Superman movie coming out because
like the trailer is pretty saturated.
And everyone was like,
it's the red, yellow, and blue are really saturated.
You know, Superman's colors are really saturated.
It's a superhero.
And he's, why are you mad that it's not gray and blue?
Why is he wearing tights?
That's crazy too, because now people have,
oh yeah, because it's just a generation
that grew up on the dark night, and they people have, oh yeah, because it's just a generation that grew up on like the dark night.
And they're like, okay, every superhero movie
needs to be grungy and didn't remember like-
Whether or not it fits.
It has to be better.
Whether or not it fits.
And then they don't recall what superhero movies were like
right before that.
Yeah, they don't recall the most successful
Superman movies where that was the case.
Yeah.
This recent Reddit thread was written
by an actual game developer and made me realize this.
It reads headline.
Am I allowed to say this?
I kind of hate gamers.
I'm a professional game designer and I'm worried that I'm starting to hate gamers.
Watching the gaming events on YouTube last month with the chat on was extremely disheartening
experience.
Every time a character that wasn't a Cish white man Appeared on screen the chats would fill with messages calling the game woke or complaining about DEI
Every game that wasn't a shooter or a hyper casual competitive online game garnered zzz and boring comments
I've seen people implying that the MC and fable trailers is ugly
Because it's a self insert of some random level designer working at Playground
whom they deemed not fuckable enough.
I don't know, it's just the internet magnifying
negative voices I guess, doing what it does best.
But it's making me real tired of gamers.
Do you think making the voice made him sound less agreeable?
I think maybe, literally the whole time,
and I'm like, I don't want to give this guy advice,
I'm like, don't read the reasons because that actually yeah explains it very articulately
Maybe just put the title and he needed to change his voice and put up a photo of an unrelated man
Yes, it shouldn't have read that whole thing
It does not he wanted that man the photo of that man
And it's so much that he had to cut off part of the pose so you couldn't see it not to mention
It's a it's a fucking that you had to cut off part of the pose so you couldn't see it. Not to mention it's a fucking Reddit thread
where you don't know the identity
and most people on Reddit are lying about who they are.
Again, it's gamed and I do understand it,
like to some degree, I understand the instinct
when you're a kid that things are a little magic.
Industries are a little magic.
You don't understand that there's a bunch of people
on a set when you watch a movie. You think it's like they go on a computer
and they put new movie and the movie comes out because you don't think critically about
stuff yet. Let's just say as a joke. For the fucking sake of argument, right? Yeah. Every
single game is gay and every single character is black and they're all trans. Well then, what do you want to do?
Is it stop them and go back?
So what about those guys?
Oh, well they're wrong.
They committed an ethical crime of identifying.
Yeah, what is acceptable to him?
Is it no representation?
It's not a zero sum game.
Yeah, it's like so weird.
They didn't take anything away from you.
But the premise is that something was taken away.
And that's, I mean, it's just fraught.
You can make a Spartans body of woman now or something.
It's like he got a new sibling and he's upset
that he's not getting as much attention from mommy.
And he's blaming like the baby.
He's like, this baby is taking away time.
And he's like, and that means mom hates me.
Yeah. When mom goes to work, he's like the baby.
What about how good things used to be?
And it's a photo of me and Mommy
before the new baby was born.
You're also allowed to make criticism.
For sure.
But it shouldn't be in the form of,
I mean, you're welcome to say whatever you want, but this is bad criticism because it's not founded
in any fact. It's founded in like gifts and you putting in text on an image that says what you-
It's founded on your feelings.
Yeah. Yes, dude. It's literally just your feelings.
And it, yeah, it's, I'd say a pretty broad rule across the board, regardless of what leaning you
take on, regardless of what topic, if the thing that you are saying and claiming is
your belief was A, the first feeling you had and or B, the thing that makes you feel the
most comfortable,
it's probably wrong. You know what was really interesting to me
was in this Gabby Petito documentary I was watching.
One of the discourses that came out of the Gabby Petito stuff
is a thing that happens a lot
when there's an attractive white woman who is murdered,
or goes missing to start,
and there's a huge media storm about it,
but there are countless brown indigenous people
that go missing a lot and are not reported on
at all by the media.
And-
Disproportionate. Disproportionate, so it's just disproportionate. go missing a lot and are not reported on at all by the media. And-
Disproportionate.
Disproportionate, so it's just disproportionate.
And it's very disproportionate.
And the parents of Gabby Petito talked about
how when they first heard that argument,
the first instinct was defensive.
Like how dare you make this about,
I just lost my daughter,
how dare you make this about, I just lost my daughter, how dare you make this about
the color of her skin.
And then the dad was like, and then I looked into the
numbers and it's like, this person isn't trying to take away
from what happened to us, right?
They are trying to illuminate a larger,
it's a gap in our awareness.
Just because we're not looking at it doesn't mean
it doesn't exist. Just because the media isn looking at it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
Just because the media isn't covering it
doesn't mean it doesn't exist
because we have object permanence
and it's not like the thing only exists
if the media covers it.
And I thought that that was very mature
of the parents to be able to address.
A very difficult thing to do,
especially under their circumstances.
Yeah, and so this is someone who has a feeling
and instead of trying to empathize,
even a little bit so far with the counter argument
to any of these things, they just kind of keep adding on
to what their first thought is.
I don't like this and this is bad because it's bad.
I haven't seen a single metric or single like,
like anything that's other than game I used to like isn't what I don't.
But now I play games that are, okay, you play games 20 years, 20 years old, then keep doing
that.
Yeah.
Glad you're still into it, man.
But like, it almost feels like you're afraid of like change and adaptation.
Yeah.
That's kind of my, my, because he's afraid to live in the present.
Yeah.
He doesn't want to play lip games like, um, well, Baldur's gate, Baldur's
gate. Cause no one ever talks about that. Cause the game is so good. It's transcendent. Instead
it's like fans are ruining it by saying that it's gay. Yeah. No, Baldur's gate isn't gay.
I mean, I had a threesome with Halston and that was fucking sick. And he was so, he was
a bear and I think it was a girl. It is not real. Yeah, it's okay. There was Halston's bear dick
No, it's just uh, I haven't I haven't seen the argument that the gay is getting in the way of boulders
Get being a good game, but I know that person exists
It's just funny to me this by the way, the game is just so good that people were like, ah, ignore that one
And let's talk about what me scrolling the recently published indie games on Steam.
I look, it's the reason that Gamergate was what it was and why it criticized the,
not it criticized the people that scared them, but there was a reason they care so much about
games. Journalism is because everyone that was involved with Gamergate was really fucking jealous.
They really wanted to be in the industry.
A lot of them wanted to be game critics
because they think game critics just get to game out
and hang out and stuff like that.
They were jealous.
It's always based on jealousy.
It is because you see fulfillment
and you see your lack of fulfillment
because if you were fulfilled, you just wouldn't care.
Why would you bother?
If you see somebody at a restaurant having a nice meal
and you're enjoying yours,
where the fuck would you go over and like,
you're ruining my meal? No, you also have nice food.
But I think a lot of it is they have a lot of feelings and they don't know what to do with them.
They're mad at, I guess, capitalism, but they're never going to say that.
They're initially a little mad about this and like they don't feel great and then they say it out loud
and then the limited but real community of people
that agree with them go, you are the smartest guy ever.
They go like, oh, I guess I actually really believe it.
All right, let's watch this at 2X speed.
The wonderful irony in all this is that it's the very games
that the woke cancel mob has tried to cancel
that seem to do the best.
Remember Hogwarts legacy?
Yeah, men who dress in women's clothes
tried to get it canceled.
Instead the game sold 25 million copies.
Oops, remember Elden Ring?
Remember how the woke mob tried to accuse
from song games of having quote problematic depictions of women? sold 25 million copies. Oops. Remember Elden Ring? Remember how the woke mob tried to accuse from song games
of having quote problematic depictions of women? I don't remember that about Elden Ring actually.
Also, do you know a fucking ton? There's actually, well, it's not important, but a ton of trans people
worked on Hogwarts legacy. You know, whatever. It doesn't matter. You know, that doesn't change.
Right. Right. So if you're like, take that woke Hogwarts legacy sold a lot. Well,
trans people worked on the game.
And the same thing would apply if they made a military game.
Weren't there pronouns in trans legacy?
Yeah, trans legacy.
Sorry, sorry.
Weren't there, weren't there pronouns in Hogwarts legacy or something that people got upset
about?
Uh, I were like a new wizard.
There was like something.
Oh, there are like, uh,
like gender nonconforming characters. And I just remember something that like people
were playing Hogwarts. I guess he were like, Oh, they put the woke into this game, even
though the wokes won't play it or something like that. It's also, it's kind of revisionist
to be like, well, you know, most people don't know who J.K. Rowling is. It's such an insular
way of thinking. Also, I pray this person finds an appropriate resolution for an image that they put on the screen because so far
so far I'm like did you edit this on an Android 3 calculator the Ghost Recon
games the Rainbow Six games and the Far Cry games oh they're gonna talk about
the fuck are you had so much testosterone just a single glance from a
woman in their direction would get her pregnant. Oh, it's that type of humor. I mean, Sam, oh, by the way, he's, he's referencing Spinners of Blacklist,
a game I honestly don't mind. But he's gonna say it like gone banned because it was too manly or
something. No, it's sold like fucking shit. Like no one bought the game. And Ubisoft also just
doesn't care about you, man. Ubisoft stock is plummeting because they keep being weird and sexually harassing people.
In French.
Being French.
Not to mention.
Being French all over my games.
It's crazy how they haven't brought up the French a single time.
The truth.
Just kidding.
How many French games?
Oh yeah dude!
Hell yeah!
Target destroyed!
Why don't they make games ever?
Before! Hell yeah! Target destroyed! Why don't they make games like this anymore?
Never!
Before!
This is worth a die!
Why don't they make this?
Let's go!
Let's fucking go!
Dude, imagine watching this video as someone that believes this and then this comes up.
Realistic vehicle combat!
Oh fuck, that's awesome.
How to murder a franchise! That was the most appropriate ad we possibly could have gotten. Realistic vehicle combat. Oh fuck that's awesome. Oh, I can't
That was the most appropriate ad we've
I'm so glad we weren't logged in. I'm so glad we got the ads. I can't believe this video got owned by him
It's funny it's funny cuz like somehow we've managed a like act three resolution like a callback
That aren't funny that aren't cool that aren't masculine
So stop hiring these people game developers need to stop putting gay stuff in games and they need to fire every liberal white woman If they want us to ever buy a game again, because I'm serious
The quiet part so loud he screams screamed the quiet part out loud into a fucking quarry.
They need to do fascism, please.
They need to cleanse the office.
Can we please?
I want my...
It's like, I want my Tindy so bad.
Let's do fascism.
Give him this 45 seconds.
All right, let's see.
How did you wrap it up?
We're done with this shit.
We're not buying these games.
Like Phil Spencer is out here complaining
about how people aren't spending
as much money on games anymore.
I guarantee if you give us hetero dudes,
Hot Chicks and Games again, and Manly Men,
you will see sales go through the roof.
Bring back the leaders.
You will absolutely not, and I would bet you $1,000.
Contact, my DMs are open, dude.
Hey, bro, also, you're buying games.
I don't believe you.
If you guys give us hot manly fuck, I mean...
Yes, hot manly fuck. Give us that.
If you give me a fuck with a hot manly...
If you give us those women's breasts that I love...
Oh, boobs and...
Oh, and I know exactly how they feel.
How they are to be around.
That's so nice to me.
We should fire them, by the way. We should fire all boobs.
Fire every white woman so they can hold onto Duke Nuukku.
I have this theory that in a few years,
we're gonna see a turn back to the golden era
of video games and people are gonna start buying games again.
When they made this money.
I recently saw this crazy chart from 2023
that basically showed that people are only playing
old games these days.
Nobody wants to play anything that's new out right now
because it's all woke and it all sucks so bad.
Because it's all woke. So anyway guys, let's all hope
that they return a next time.
I recently saw this chart and he showed us a headline.
This man has no brain.
Like what do you mean?
No one is playing games.
Let me see the numbers on Marvel, huh?
Marvel Rivals, it's playing, oh.
Oh, but it's so bright.
It's so bright and it's like, oh, this is good.
Oh wait, I thought it was so bright.
And Valorant, so, but it's so for girls.
Dude, Apex and Valorant, they're not around anymore.
They got deleted for being gay or something.
Oh, okay.
Do you know that?
No.
Well, because I just...
No, I thought I had played it.
I guess you didn't.
All right.
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