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Episode Date: June 5, 2026

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Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. He's a tired, big stretch. Oh, he's angry and he's mad. And he's sad. And he's happy again. He just wants to be heard. And he's tired.

It's a long day at the factory of being a boy. And I'm Jordan. What's up? I was fiddling around with my mustache and then I shaved it all off. How did it feel? How long? clean chavin how long until or if that to list the degree of clean chauvin how long maybe a day to day it's probably yeah that's a bill do you ever let you touch your face you go no i'm i'm like the good news is

uh it'll grow back enough to where that it'll grow back enough soon but i i am i feel somewhat naked because i feel like i don't recognize myself i feel like um you are you have with facial head what I think I have with glasses where I don't think I'm considered a guy that wears glasses. Right. Or rather like that the glasses are default. Yeah. But I do spend the majority of the time wearing glasses. I feel that way as well, actually, about glasses and facial hair.

Because I feel like I'm okay just shaving everything off. But I don't know, this time. Now that it's gone. I feel like I might, I feel like I have a chubby face, but I don't know. From the, or it just because it looks different. It's just like, it's just the shape of my face feels different even though it's not. I did find a note in my phone this morning that I think I wrote after the live show, I went to the bar and I got a little tipsy and I wrote down in my phone,

make sure to make Jarvis uncomfortable again by saying that while we were at the bar and I was just kind of scanning. I caught you a few times as thought, that is the most handsome guy around right now. I was like, that guy looks fucking good. Hell yeah. Well, speaking of the live show, thank you, first of all. We had our live sad boys, very sad boys' birthday extravaganza. We did. We did it. It went off without a hitch.

Jacob, sicko mode. The whole team went sicko mode. Everyone went sicko mode. Jacob was sickening. It was a good, it was a grand old time. And due to popular demand from someone. And I'll never say who. They're really popular.

We are going to, the VOD is still available for another week as of this show coming out. So if you want to check that out, there will be a link in the description. Jacob, if you're curious about what went down during the live show, Jacob has graciously cut together a little reel of moments from the live show. So you can see kind of what the vibe was in case you do want to tap in on that. Hello and welcome to a very sad boy's birthday. I'll go again, go get clap, clap, clap, clap. Ooh, yeah.

Yeah, don't tie it down when I walk out. I'm clapping so loud. I brought you guys a birthday gift. Let me take off my karate black belt. Master Chief. Oh my Lord. Do you even know what that is, man? Do you even know what that is, man?

Show me how a cool cowboy would put on this hat. That wasn't bad, okay. Contact, contact. If you hit me, you're immediately disqualified. Warning shot. Holy fuck I love America. I don't want to touch the bar anymore. If you touch the bar, you might forget

that you're supposed to come. Oh, it didn't even go. Oh, yeah. You're doing it right. No drinking it right. Jig. Oh, look at that. Wow.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa. I'd be like, yo, y'all having some fun over there, I'm trying to talk. Don't give a fuck if you not in my vision. If you not from my world, don't give a fuck. How you live in. Can you even legally have one of it?

Guess who, Crowskies? The Road Dog, 1.3 million subscribers, making it stink with swag. Oh my God, great Googly wowser. Heaven's to Betsy. Holy macaroni. Will all be damned. Oh.

Mama's not gonna like this. Gross. Have you had for a lot? Oh. Have you ever had Cuoado? There's another side of the jigger you can drink from. No, I was passing it down like that was all of our ideas. And if you were there, thank you for supporting us.

And we're looking into bringing it back sometimes. So it's a little crazy. Maybe I'll take another swing at the old citizenship does. We did do that. And I mean, we do a lot of things where if you're a patron or if you're like following us on Instagram and stuff like that, you get an early heads up about things. So if you want to follow us on Sab Boys on Twitter and Instagram, feel more than welcome to do so.

You can also follow me at Jarvis. I never shut that out. But yeah, just at Jarvis. That's my name. Don't wear it out unless you're hitting that subscribe button. Wear that shit out. Remember that? Remember whipping and denying?

I wouldn't do it too much, though. Okay. That's way too much. And you can also, if you're U.S., in the U.S., you can get the shirt still as well. Oh, yeah, that's right. But if you are not in the U.S. or want to wait to get the shirt, stay tuned. We're going to try to solve that problem. But we had a whole last-minute snafu with our merch partners,

so that was the reason that we were only able to sell in the U.S. So it seems you're getting increasingly difficult to get the U.S. to collaborate with other countries. Well, I don't think that's true. After all, Trump's healthy. And he looks good. Did, okay, so, Trump's healthy. So one funny thing I noticed about the Trump health report is that I, I felt pretty good about it because Trump is he's 6.3, 240.

And muscle. It's all muscle. And I realized that he's like skinnier than me pretty much. Yeah, I mean. Like, based on, based on the. the metrics, he's actually, I'm actually, I need to get hit the gym. Well, I think it's, in his case, it's the size of his mind. I see.

It's a lot of memories and ideas and, you know what I mean? And big suits. I mean, have you seen him? He's as skinny as a needle. Yeah, I lost a couple pounds recently, but I was like, damn, Trump's really spelt. And I got to get on his level. You were like, why even try? It's funny, because when they say the metrics, I'm like, I, I weighed that in the past.

So I, so. That I wasn't insane. So I guess I was fit. I guess that's, yeah, that's the, I was proper fit in it. Oh, this guy's cool. Yeah. I like that.

I can get behind that. Yeah, let's go back to the flat. It's a guy who says British slang, but without a British accent. Governor. Hey, governor. What's going on, governor? I was just snogging my girl. Does people even say that anymore?

That wasn't Harry Potter a bunch. I always heard it from like, like, if parents were talking about it. Like, like, to you're like, did you snog the, you know? Oh, it's like, maybe it's like, is it like smooch? Like we don't really say smooch, but it's only used in like a mocking. What would you say as a teen? Um, for like making out. I say, no, thank you.

Um, funny but vulnerable moment. My first ever kiss that I ever had right after that happened. he asked me if I wanted to shag you had Austin bounce yeah what's it awesome voice happy pride month oh yay happy pride month that's incredible with that story yeah I don't know what that means

Austin no did he ever did he ever play British flag to shag baby like if I did not anymore yeah no not with that voice you should have responded Oh, behave. What is, did he ever employ British slang separate from that?

No. Well, he was doing my character before I could get there. He took a swing. Do you remember your first kiss? Me? Yeah. Well. Oh, your first shag.

Can never forget my first shag. That actually is a real one. I do know people this time. I had just been de-frosted after. It's just the story of awesome powers. My first kiss. I do remember it, but it was like, I was pretty young. Like, so I'm like, I don't know if we count those.

But, like, my actual, like, first kiss is like a little boy was like, you know those septic tanks, like, you'd have in, like, the back of your house. Oh, yeah. Like, me and this girl from across the street went back next to the septic tank. Was it just like a little? Yeah, just a little peck. As they say. Was it a septic tank or a pretext?

Propane tank. Propane tank. It was a propane tank. Yeah, because I'm like, you're smooching by the shithole? Yeah, I did think that's what you know. I mean, hey. Yeah, there's a shithole when awesome powers theory. Remember?

There's like a big jar. Poop. I think it's the second one. With the man, I believe his name is Lodge Man. Yeah, no, yeah, it was propane. I don't know why I said sept. I think I was, yes, propane and propane accessories. That's what she called you?

Bobby? Um. How old is that? Because I think? Maybe seven, nine, seven. Yeah. And then when was your first, like, makeout? Snog.

I feel like I had, I was pretty late to the snog. I feel like my first makeout was like 19. Like I didn't really, I was all about business. Not pleasure. Shaking hands. No pleasure. I was like, I had like a very, like I had like a, quote unquote girlfriend in high school, but she was like, her family was like super religious and like we couldn't, we could like only hold hands.

and I didn't want to cross those boundaries. Hold hands by the septic tank. There's no shagging to be had, mate. There's no, do you want to, she wouldn't kiss me, but she was like, do you want to shag? Do you want to bunk, do you? Jordan, first kiss. Um, I don't think I ever had a, like,

uh, by the, the lavatory. By the outhouse, uh, quick peck. I don't remember any kind of like, I don't even know if I'm old enough to feel anything about this one, but I... Yeah, I didn't feel anything. I think it was more like a what's this. Yes. And I think she was the one who instigated it.

And I was like, it's all agrave to me, baby. Cool. You said that at seven years old. I said that, yeah. And I was like, if I'm next to the septic tank, I'm having a good time. She was like, that's enough for now. Just the one, thank you. I was...

14 when I got straight up. A little bit of, actually, a little kiss. I'll put it that way. When I kissed a girl on the stairs of my house near my bedroom, if you catch my drift. You kissed a girl. You just said it. There's not really much of a drift to catch.

Yeah, and I'll, let's just say it was on the stairs near my bedroom. Okay. Ew. Well, it was by the day. We were in the, you know, stood, we'd gone up the stairs. You were on the landing above the stairs. She was about to leave after. Jordan's landing.

It's like a Game of Thrones location. Well, she, I think she was just, you know, particularly attracted to me on account of me, like, showing I had to play, oblivion. Not like, she wasn't out such a control, obviously, but she was allowed to watch me play it. Right. And then I got a, I got first snog,

and I remember having so little chill that I didn't even go downstairs with her to say goodbye. I remember literally I was like frozen at the top of the stairs. I'm like, I don't know if like what I feel. I know this is what you do when you're grown up. But like, what am I feeling the thing I'm supposed to? You know, anxiety, basically. And then I'm.

Well, you had anxiety because you were a British teenager. So you were drinking actual alcohol. Yeah, what do you call it? Drunk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. yeah and i don't remember that like really it just we just kind of did that for like a while and then uh i was i was um until party era i was not doing a whole lot of nothing yeah i yeah i feel

like yeah big big gulf uh for me in between behind the septic tank and and like college essentially and i don't know why i think I think I was uncool. No, I... I think also, like... I think I was also a freight. That's the thing. I think there's a fear factor,

not to name drop. Of the moment, of the moment, yeah, the fear factor was on the air. And it did kind of impact. But I think... I believe there's a new season because it was playing in the background

of the Creed-themed wrestling that I went to. It's hosted by Johnny Knoxville. Of Jackass fame. House of Fear or something. they try to, they're trying to make it like a, it's fear factor, but it's also like, they're all living in a house together and they're like, what do you guys think about the girls in this house?

Oh, gosh. I'm afraid. I'm afraid of them. I think fear of the very least like, it's like a, it's such a new thing at such a large scale when you have such a like, the most caution you ever have in your life. The most just like, ah, thing. Because even when I was like 16, when I first like had a girl, well, well, you consider a girlfriend, girlfriend. Even then I was like constantly like, well, like, I'm letting you lead.

I had like absolutely no. No one knows how to proceed. So going, like figuring out, because okay, we kissed. How do we get from that to anything else? Who knows? I was around like, I still don't know. I was around some hip teens who were like snogging and stuff. stuff, snogging and shagging.

At the flat? At the flat. Around your gaff? Yeah, it was like a particularly wicked night in Sheffield. You got sloshed, of course. I of course got sloshed and gnashed. Yeah, you're wanked. I was absolutely wankered.

And by the septic tank. By the septic tank. It's still called it a septic tank. But the bog. By the bog. The vajuka bog. I yeah I think that I was around it but I didn't know how to I felt like a spec not quite literally like a spectator spectator but I felt like I was like how is this

working for everybody else I'm not getting no I'm not getting the attention or anything like that I think my own yeah my understanding of it was that like I think I couldn't separate the idea that um i as a dude have the like like like my mom made it very clear that i like have without like going into the specifics of it just like that i have the capacity to be a scary entity sure that like of the two partners in play i am the like want to be cautious and i didn't i think digest that in detail like the how and the why i just went like okay, I'll just chill out. I'll just see, I'll hang out.

I think I was, my first proper bong, my first shag, I was 17. And it was like the night before my 18th birthday. And I was just like, I, okay, I guess, I remember in my brain be like, yeah, I guess we can. Because it's, because I'm like,

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Back to the show. I think that I was really bad at reading signals or knowing how to proceed. I was going to say because I lived at home. I was in high school. But because I like, I also didn't have a car. And there was all these ways in which I felt dependent and not like like I had my own like life going on. It made I thought one step ahead. And I'm like, well, I couldn't take someone on a date. Or I don't want to have these. I had a weird home life at the time.

And I didn't want to like ask like my my legal guardian for like a ride or like. Those types of things where it's where I do think I later learned and I'm like wondering if this is TMI. So you can. Oh, there was like an instance in like there was somebody who I had a crush on in middle school. And then they went to my high school as well. And then we like didn't. And then we like went off on our merry way. And then when we were in college and I was interning in San Francisco, they were in town.

and we were having a party, me and Russell were having a, we were thrown a rager, of course, as, as I want to do. This was in your rave era. It was in my rave era. And that person was there and, like, made it very clear to me that they had always been into me. And I was like, um. Made you spit out your pacifier that you were at the rave. I mean, that's a classic. Okay, wait, does this resonate with you?

I feel like a part of that happening so much was me not really believing that, like, women had the same capacity for, like, attraction and horniness. I think that I didn't believe that I had the capacity for people being attracted to me. Yeah, it just, like, doesn't, it's like, even pre, like, Manosphere content action, like, because that was not a part of my life at the very least. Oh. But like that behavior. I just remembered something. Continue. But that like like unconscious like well ultimately guys want girls more than girls want guys.

And it's like that is like drilled in so immediately from somewhere abstract that like to this day I have to like go like no fucking that that is fiction. That is ridiculous nonsense. But it is what I was told from like. Yeah. I do think like the media kind of. Yeah. You pursue until you wear them down. with nagging.

I just remember something kind of funny. And again, I'll try to sanitize it. So I was at the septic. I was about a bulk. The, I was, I don't remember the context. I guess we agreed to meet up here. Me and this girl met up at a park and were hanging out. And I guess it was a date.

Now I'm re-contextualizing it. But I don't know. And then, then the thing is, we didn't kiss. But then she was like, do you want to touch my boob? And I was like, hell yeah, brother. So funny, you mention it. And I was like, I think about that all the time every day. And I remember that.

And I'm like, that's so interesting that like it was like no kissing. Yeah. Because like they, that's the other thing. I feel like every party is assuming like more shrewdness on the other party. Like they're like, okay, well, why would a girl allow that? Because they also want stuff. It is not like a, wow, what a glorious kindness. It's like, no, no, they're also curious and like have like horny hormones.

Like it's not like an alien process. No one knows what they're doing. Yeah. So she's like, okay, well, this boob touch might move to other stuff. But I probably didn't because no one knows how to transition. That's me showing. I don't think there is any. I don't think there is any other romantic contact ever between us.

by the fact that we remained friends. Yeah. But it didn't feel awkward because it was like you're in high school. And so like what is this? You think like, I don't know, you think there's a lot. You think a lot more of life is automated, I think, when you're younger because you don't witness the gears. You're like, okay, well, I don't remember signing up for school, but I'm here.

Yeah. Okay. I don't buy any of these clothes. Yeah. Your life is on rails. And then like, it's all of them it's like, okay, well, if we're going to fall in love and get married, I guess that'll just have. I'll just wait.

I do think that like it I wonder if people who have like more traditional family like units get some sort of nudging or talking to about romantic relationships and how they're supposed to proceed. If they get more bad advice from their dad or something, I can see that happening. I think it's really, really funny that we went from Trump to first kiss. I mean, that's, when I see him, I think about those days at the septic tank. Your lips immediately get into smooching position. I do feel like before I was an activated like, like adult in that, in that arena, every kiss was like a cold, slimy, disgusting, like.

I mean, no one's giving anyone feedback. Yeah. And I think, I do something. I think like, oh my God, if I didn't like, I lucked upon a relationship early enough in my life to like at least know what was terrible. Yeah. And I, the population of day to day walking around plainclothes folks doing bad kissing has to be the majority of people.

Yeah. And it has to be a high majority. Oh, I absolutely can confirm that that's true because I've had. some bad kisses. And then I'm like, oh, but this is the, this is someone who no one's ever given you feedback. And I can't do it. And I'm afraid.

Absolutely. I don't know. I don't know. I feel like, uh, my first several kissing partners. Relax. Awful. Yeah. And then my, uh, uh,

a mojo baby. I don't, I don't want to put him on blast, but I guess I will. Tom Steyer. My ex-husband, when we first started dating, I was like, I like this guy. I'm going to fix him. Because I was like, this is like, this cannot stand. Me when I'm a baby. I think there's two things going on.

One is there's the group of people who. do not open their mouth really, like enough. And then there are people who open their mouth too much and give too much tongue. Go, go tongue. They treat tongue like a battering ram into the, into the doors of your mouth. They're calibrating. I do think there's, there's a moment in, we both just watch temptation on in season two. Yeah.

I think. You can say there's a moment we kiss. Yeah. We'll just celebrate the show. All right. All right. That season sucks. Put down the watt bad.

We, uh, there is a, a number of times where like one particular character is like always making out in what looks like the just like the most repulsive way like the way that Jack does it is just so awkward sometimes when people make out I have to look away because it's very disgusting

I genuinely think that is performative like I think that is like virtue signaling I'm a bachelor by like how much like the tongue is like rotating around the outside of the face I'm like okay so this is for us to look at We all made a face. It is like horrific. The outside of the face is crazy.

It's like somebody just being like, it's like how the most acting wins Oscars. Do you know what I mean? It's like, oh, this guy must be a good actor. He's crying and yelling and Leonardo got in the snow. He must be good at acting. Yeah, he fought a bear for that. We both went to the Revenant. I don't have much of a dog in this race, but I do have a funny first kiss story.

With a dog. Nope. Okay. Dogs are brought up. Yeah, I was going to say. If we're counting dogs, then when I was like six, I went over to my neighbor's house and their dog knocked me down and started thinking my phone.

Snoggy. My first kiss picture, he just had like a playlist going of like, I don't even know if it was one of our playlist or just random songs, but my first kiss was, in fact, you know, everyone has like a lot of people like,

oh, this was, this is our song, this is our first kiss. This was witch doctor. Oh, they laughed at you? Yeah.

They gave me my first smoot while witch doctor was on. I do feel like you, I do imagine that your soundtrack during this would be like, wamp, wom, bam, bam, bum. No, that's exactly what it was because it's, it's the era of, um, everyone, everyone I know is listening to nerdcore. Oh my God. And then witch doctor comes on.

Nerdcore. Oh my God. My first kiss to Anna Managuchi. Oh, actually, dude, that goes fucking hard. Having my first kiss to the Mitt Romney-style sigh parody on college human. I saw. My first kiss to like a Five Nights of Freddy song. That feels like it's on.

That was too specific. I'm thinking that did, Evan. Your first kiss is with Chica somehow. How did you know? In 20. Is it, okay, this is how much my brain is not wired for Five Nights at Freddy's. I thought of Markiplier's dog. Cheetah and Chica.

Yeah. And when you said that and not the animatronic from Five Nights of Freddy's. Because I know Chika the dog better than I know Chika the robot. I do love Chica. Chica yellow chicken. Chica yellow chicken. Chica yellow chicken, Bonnie Bunny. Freddie Bear.

And? Name of the other one. I'll know it. You'd say the name. Foxy. Brown. The. Foxy the.

Foxy the. Yay. I guess. I, uh, Pax East 2010, Boston, Massachusetts. I, is the first Pax East. I was there. The music, musical guess,

it was a, all right, well, two out of the three are bomb. Jonathan Colton, my goat, Anamonoguchi, my goats, MC Frontalot,

nerdcore rapper. Do you guys know, MC Frontal lot? Oh, man. I mean, maybe it's in there. Look, it's a,

it's not, even then, it wasn't for me. I'll tell you that. I think that there's something where it's like, when it's nerdy, like,

fulky music, when it's, you know, Jonathan Colton during like the peak of portal and, you know, all of his, I love Jonathan Colton, I think he's great. And also it's like, doesn't feel like an affront to the genre of like folky acoustic music.

Something about, not all nerdcore, okay, but something about nerdcore is a little bit, I'm a nerd and I'm here to say, I love video games. in a major way. It's like always kind of got a slight tent of like, isn't this funny that I'm doing rap with this? Because rap is normal and hip-hop's so weird. There's a way in which it feels from first principles, but in a derogatory. Like, it doesn't feel like it builds upon, I think that's what it is. It, like, there is, like a progression in the way that, like, the genre evolves.

And it feels like nerdcore went from hip-hop pivot to, like, that's our only influence. just with the words right? Yes, exactly. You know what I mean? And I'm like, I just don't like, and they're not, this is again, not all nerdcore. Because actually there's a, emcee Chris. Yeah, do you remember MC Chris? Yeah, so like MC Chris, I first heard on the first Childish Gambino mixtape, Sickboy.

Wow. I remembered that. 2008. 2008 was Sick Boy, 2009 was Poindexter. And it's Childish Gambino doing like a Lowell Wayne impression. Yeah. And like there's a there's a song with MC Chris on it and and emcee Chris I could like I felt like that had more influence I felt like it was like more it it wasn't it at least felt like rapping yes and like more of a

I mean more affection for it kind of thing yeah but it is nerdcore will always exist in the realm of like uh one song in 50 different rapper styles like very college super coded yeah it's a very Magli. There's actually, there's actually Tom Adoles. Speaking of a childish Gambino,

there's an old childish gambino lyric. I'd have to, it might be on the song Be Alone from 2011 EP, but it's a fuck nerdcore, fuck back, back on a rap, I make cool rap.

I make music for whack blacks to black back. In fact, I swear the track a lot on to my last track. Yeah, it's my shine because it's also the, uh,

uh, it also has the lyric, everything I'm saying, I'm super saying like Goku. That's pretty good. Which is what precludes. Fuck nerdcore, fuck back back.

Hey, look at that. Lyric brain. It's happening. And it is on My Shine. Yes. On these tracks, like Indie Girls on Amalie, that's pretty good. Indie girls on Amelie. Honestly, I'm rapping about everything I go through.

Everything I'm saying, I'm super saying, like, oh, cool. I do think, oh, my, wait. Sorry, I just astrojected to one of the most embarrassing. Embarrassing in retrospect in the moment, I was so happy with myself. Fumbled the bag with a girl. who was clearly very into me that I couldn't even conceive

of that being the case. Oh, yeah. I am 15. I'm hosting a house party. My friend, no shade, Ruby. It was you. Let's call them Ruby because that's their name in real life. They stepped on what was kind of a weak floorboard

in the living room and their foot went through the ground into the kitchen. And we just kind of kept the hole for a while. she got unnecessary hate it was an infrastructural issue if we'd had a carpet it would have protected it the carpet we didn't have because a previous house party we were in the carpet there was layer by layer you're ruining that it was such a piece of shit I would get I would nag my mom to let me

have one while she was away and she would always act and we would always do horrible damage and I wouldn't clean it up that period in my life whatever but it was all paying off because my number one crush seemed to have some interest in me and finally picking up that that might be the case. One issue with it is she now in retrospect, clearly standing around waiting for me to join her,

go get a drink, maybe have a bit of a snog. My friend starts playing the Edgar Allan Poe, epic rap battles of history. And of course I have to show them that I know all of the Wattsky lyrics. And they are, I start doing it with, let's call him Adam, because that's his name in real life.

She's gone like a ghost. I don't know if I saw a, again, at all. You know what? There is a, there was a, and I'm still guilty of this, except for it comes out in like Hamilton for me now, which I'm doing, I guess it's in a month or something. It's at the end of June, June 26. At the end of June, I'm doing a drunk Hamilton at Dynasty and your boys Hamilton.

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Now back to Manistach's dad. Like, we hosted a lot of parties in college. It was interesting. I lived with like, um, I was, I was at a particularly,

uh, Latino point in my life. No, I'm just kidding. My roommates, one of my roommates was from Panama. One of my roommates was from Puerto Rico. And then one of my roommates was this guy, Derek from like fucking Tallahassee or something. You was a couple of good old boys leveling and out. He's in Miami now, I think.

But I don't know where he's from, actually. Oh, he's in a very Latino port of a look. But he did marry a Latina. Dude. But anyway, we would host these parties. And I would have. impressed people with um rapping look at me now the buster rhymes rap for look at me now the chris brown song it is a uh i think there's an uncanny valley on how good impromptu karaoke is and you either

have to do it like yeah as you say really well and that's the anomaly or proudly consciously do a kind of shitty job i hate that every three or like in a sense that like you just can't sing like yeah yeah yeah yeah there's no shame in that but you do bohemian rhapsody and and it's fun because someone's like doing it enthusiastically. Yeah. Everything from a three through an eight, especially if it's done somewhat cynically, just don't bother this. I will say, though, that there's like, I have my like pocket of the,

this will impress white people karaoke. And it does include Hamilton. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that'll do it. People are like, do you do theater? And I'm like, no. I was just alive at the time. I was just, I'm just, I'm just born for this.

I was friends with him. Do you ever, okay, so. Do you ever feel like a plastic bag drifting through the wind? No. Okay. Katie Perry Firework on the album. It's not Teenage Dream. It's the one before that.

It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, oh, I got this, I got this, I got this. There is a, hmm. It's the one after the California goes out. No, it's the one before. Five weeks before that? It's her first album with, oh, is it called Hot and Cold? No, it's the album with Hot and Cold, I Kissed a Girl, Manikin, maybe it's, maybe it is Teenage Dream.

Fuck. Okay, but what if, Teenage Dream, okay. What if you remembered it as not being on Teenage Dream? That's good. And you were like, wait, I swear to God it was on. Are you talking about Mandala effect? Mom Dhanie effect. I swear to God it was on dark.

No, I don't know. I don't know any of the albums. Wait, Dark Horse? No. Dark Horse? Yeah. Was that the album? Is that an album or a song?

Anyways, we, none of us can't remember. It is a song, but it might be the title of the album. And why can't we remember? She's not. Is it because of the Matrix? Is it because she went to space? She went to space. She stayed there.

Yeah, remember when she went to space stayed there. And now she's married to, Remember 2008 YouTube Live? It was one of the first live events on YouTube hosted by Katie Perry musical performance by Bo Burnham. And it's 18-year-old Bo Burnham with Katie Perry sitting on his piano while he performs a song called Welcome to YouTube, which he's never performed since. And it's a bunch of dated references to YouTube circa the year 2008.

I was there. But what if you weren't there? Welcome to YouTube. What if this never happened? And it's a beautiful dream you had. A beautiful dream, like a teenage dream. One woman on TikTok has a story just so. I forgot to tell you I had a dream the other night, like, like, MLK, mom, down,

you Luther King, who, uh, that was a road trip, you were driving and, um, then a bunch of like, kind of, you know, like faceless entities of people I knew were in the back, but then you were the only other person I recognized because the, the, the sentiment of the dream moment was, wow, it's so surprising that Peep's accidentally referenced a smashing pumpkin song and me, we sang tonight tonight together in reference to you saying we should do something tonight and then I woke up feeling quite bad. And I just be a nightmare for some reason. No, just put me a bad mood because you're in my head.

Okay, well, we should karaoke that song. No. Yeah, we can recreate the dream. Yeah, we'll recreate the dream. So what's about this matrix for the glitch? Let's hear this one TikTokers experience with a glitch in the matrix. You know when you see that one of those videos, there's been a glitch in the matrix. I found like one of my fake nails, but all of my fake nails are intact.

Every time I watch those, I'm like, that's fake. You definitely fake that. Why did I just open my... Why did it? I'm terrified. I can't explain this. I moved into this new apartment. There was nothing here, no utensils, nothing.

And like a month ago, I can open. And now you just want to. I don't know what that tool is. Is a bottle opener? Can't open her. But the, but it's not the twisty kind. It's the kind that a European person would buy. Because they want life to be hard.

So this type of thing, here's my imagination. I don't know where she is, really. Eastern Europe, it appears. You know, when you order stuff, like she could have bought to by accident, bought one and thought she didn't have it, and then got a second one, or accidentally received two when she ordered one. Yeah, it could have been. And then put them away separately.

Mm-hmm. It is really funny to Occam's razor-wise go, this razor, Alcum's out of his mind. I think it was magic. It was not the obvious one. The magic only happens in these tiny little, what is this? A second toothpick? I only got one. We don't have two cars or something.

It's always a thing that I could easily fuck up. Something you could have easily accidentally got the second one, like a JoyCon. I ordered a second, or rather, under my own, in my own mind, I ordered one bucket, whatever you call them, of protein powder. The moment I put my phone down from a disgusting unit of measure, but a tub. A tub. Oh, even worse. A slot bowl. There we go.

Septic tank. Oh, septic tank. Yeah, yeah. I place my phone down. I say, yay, I've ordered the thing I need. I place it next to the protein powder that I bought and arrived, I guess, like two days prior that I just had on the kitchen island. Or it arrived really fast. That happens to me a lot.

I just want to say that, like, we actually understand a lot about human memory scientifically. Like, science have studied this. I thought you meant we as Sadboys podcast. Well, we are pretty smart. No. Okay. But so scientists have studied human memory quite a bit and we now understand how faulty it is. So faulty.

Yeah. It barely works at all. The moment you remember something a second time, you actually change it. So you remember a third, a fourth time. You're constantly changing that memory. So the truth of the matter is there is a good chance that they either just don't remember or have changed a memory. Yesterday I was voting for California governor and lo and behold on the ballot Barack Obama was there and I was like I could have sworn that guy was the president original name I believe like Robert Cecil or something he has like the most yeah somebody changed their name and I assume they change it to like

Barack D Obama Shaw yeah well he claimed that um he's in throughout his life which first of all this guy's in like his 50s or 60s and there's no way he knew about Barack Obama before he was a senator. So he's claimed that it throughout his life. He claimed that throughout his life, people were always comparing him to Barack Obama and Denzel. Those were like, it just,

you always used to come up. So I thought, you know, screw it. I'll integrate. Does the D stand for Denzel? That's awesome. He's Barack Denzel Obama. That is like Batman, Spider-Man, Goku.

Also, he looks nothing like either of them. John Wick, the swag god that's uh de rock bin's bins bimba this is the mandela effect version of the this guy was the president right no no it was this guy i thought that guy died in jail the funny thing is

we're recording this on wednesday all of the votes are being sort of tabulated it's all very depressing not if i have something to say but Barack d obama shot got like an okay amount of okay so quite literally probably there's so many things wrong with electoral politics and the jungle primary in California or the

yeah jungle primary in California is one of them yes it's horrible we need rank choice voting I think if I walked into the booth not that rank choice voting doesn't have flaws it has flaws but this is ridiculous the British fucking Steve Hilton is bowling 30% and

I can't even vote for and there's two Democrats that are splitting the vote and so God it's just like the truly a flawed system and really fucked. I do have a story similar to this in Darvases. I think I've told Jordan already. But when I, like five years ago at this point,

I bought a sports bra, a Target that I had never found one that I like truly liked, was like really comfortable before until this one. I remember thinking, oh, I should buy a second one of these because I use it all the time and I should buy another one. And I remember going to Target and they didn't have them anymore. And so I was like really upset and I was like, oh, well, wasn't meant to meet. You're really upset. That's spinning around like Taz.

Yeah, exactly. A little rain cloud formed above my head. Start running in Target. They kicked the, and, yeah. I kicked the drink one. Man. But like a couple months after I moved to L.A., I was going through my laundry and I pulled out two of them. and I was like, well, now I know I didn't buy another one because I specifically went to and they didn't sell them anymore.

It was a same same size, same everything. And I was like, I texted Katie. I was like, oh, maybe her laundry got mixing with mine. Texted my sisters. They had never had one. But I'm like, of course, my first thought went to my sister's or a friend must have had one and it got mixed into my laundry before I moved or like, why would my first thought be this appeared out of another universe and the other me is looking for it? Like, like, granted, I still don't know where it came. I'm happy.

It's like a paper plate when you accidentally pick up to you. Right. Well, it's like, it's like I know that I'm happy I have to now. Yeah. But it's like I still to this day don't know where I got the second one. And that baffles me. I'm like, where the hell could this have come from? But I still don't think that it was magic or that we live in a different universe, a different timeline. I do.

I am always curious as to like, how. genuine any post like this is in terms of not necessarily what happens. I think that's perfectly, you know, I'm not going to say it's out of the realm of possibility that you just have an extra or something and don't remember doing it. But I feel like we're in like a post-irity era, like a post-meem era, like a David Foster Wallace nightmare world where like you don't even know. if you believe it, but you are posting it. Like, this is the thing that happened.

I accidentally came across, like, a second, my shift key broke on my laptop and then it turns out I had a spare. What the fuck? But like, are you just saying this because it's the thing that's trending? Or is actually genuinely a part of you that is committed to the Dr. Strange multiverse. I think there's an element that were, this is just a silly thing to post online. For example, this is like such a bad example, but I love to say religious phrases. Like, you know.

You start speaking Latin. Well, just stuff like, oh, bless your heart or. Thank God. Lord willing, God willing. Or like, please baby Jesus allow this to happen. I say that stuff all the time. But I don't believe in God, especially in the Christian sense. or Judeo Christian.

So maybe this person's just like, oh, glitch in the matrix. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Isn't that fun to post on TikTok? Yes, I think that's happening. That's what's happening. But also, like, the difference between, like, I think a lot of people are posting it in that way. But then there's also the other half where I feel like a lot of people posting,

like, because I'm shaking. Because I'm shaking. And it's like, I don't know if they're like hamming it up for the trend or if they genuinely are just like, is it so far into the theory. The element of our current time is that someone might just be performing for the, for the clout of it all. There's just like, this is part of me that like genuinely,

and this is how like Facebook conspiracy theories, I think take on a lot of water and stuff like that, but we tend to gesture towards those just being boomers, right? Like we've segmented that into being like boomers and elder Genax to be like, they're the ones that fog for conspiracy theories. Nigerian print emails, they're the ones that get got by it. But I think like the main reason for that is not a lack of technical literacy a lot of the time. I think it's just like a lack of, not cynicism is the wrong word, but like a lack of curiosity maybe.

Like a lot of people, if you tell them something that like seems completely implausible, they just go like, okay. Like whatever. Yeah. I'm thinking about other shit. I mean, that's really interesting. It's like, it's not invalid, but it's certainly like not how my brain works because I usually want to like get to the bottom of something. Yeah. Because I believe that there is like a rational explanation of something.

And I think that there's like a natural drive in my mind to make sense of something that doesn't make sense. And can we watch some more? Because we've only seen the one. Yeah. Let's watch this next one. This next one. And then the third will be, I guess you could call that. That is the.

Jumping the Shire. The escalation, yeah. I'm freaking out. I'm freaking out. Okay. I just saw a video about this the other day. Okay. And I was like, oh, that's never happened to me. But I believe it. Whatever. But I believe it. Most videos.

You know? Yeah. Like the little theory about how, I don't even know, we're like, we have different... Stressful. By the way, this is like what I would sound like if I was a time traveler. I'd be like, I, guys, the first thing I could do is post it. Crazy move, by the way. Me and I'm John Titer. It's all right.

Wild move. Titor. That's funny. That's funny. I also, my eyes are like trying to search for what they're freaking out about. So I'm like, pillow horizontal. Like, I'm just thinking. Uh-huh.

Dumb British head. Like, I wish they would just visually zero in on whatever they're talking about. But let's- I guess this is the inverse of the like, You know the classic, like, it's a, it's a, the video starts, and it's the girl, like, coming away from hitting record, and they brush their hair back, the icon, and they're always in, like, a slightly yellow room. The millennial pause.

That's the Gen Z shake. The Gen Z shake. Yeah. That's not the shake you get from the COVID vaccine. No, because with the millennial pause, it's always like they're already recording, they pause, and then they talk. Oh, that's just like the newscaster pause, too.

Say in, like, the Gen Z shake is when you're, like, putting the phone down and starting the video. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that's true. I think there's there's so many, look, I don't have the energy to analyze Gen Z any more than I already do as a part of my job. I'm always gone for those episodes. There's so, when you guys talk about Gen Z versus when we talk about that. There's so many funny things.

Just like, it's so easy to do a parody of any TikTok where it's like, here's a day in my life as a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. morning we start off like the like the like the voiceover like sound or not voiceover sound the tone of voice that you use when you're doing like a voice so voiced over TikTok they're like semiotic the semiotic like visual language stuff like holding a wired headphone wired headphones where it's clearly not being recorded from that it's just like visual sitting up a camera and cutting vegetables for some reason cutting vegetables uh being weirdly confrontational for no reason you know which one bothers me more than it should when it's like a get ready with me or like a story time or something and they keep stopping the video and starting

it again but they keep all of the like starting and stopping in and then they say like one sentence stop the video it's like clearly started for the next and edit that out yeah and they stop the video every sentence and I don't know why that one bothers me so much but I'm like just say just say this stuff I guess the visual language of it's kind of like how you don't consider the default quality of audio and like the default quality of visuals the default, like, a lot of the language of film is so embedded that you, even the people making it, do it by default. Like, this is just how we shoot an intense scene.

This is the type of cut we do in an action scene. This is the kind of pan you do to, like, generate horror drama or something. And, like, specifically the equivalent of, like, the millennial zoom in a green screen one, you know, like the, and he said, this thing being, I'm just so. things are so normal and things are so organic. I'm just like, can you like imagine? And then knowing for a fact, having seen people record these,

and they're like, and that's just like, the crazy thing that's like it's so like. I feel that way about like, um, any TikTok of like a single, not a single, a rich mom who's doing like a get ready with me in the morning without my kids and it's the first shot is her like me like, in her kitchen.

And I'm like, You got up and, like, did your hair and put everything and then put the camera down. Or hiking videos and then, like, setting up the truck, walking all the way back just to walk towards the camera. Yeah, maybe that's, like, the same lack of media cynicism that where it's like, you see that and you're just like the casualty consumer, you just go like, no, I guess they used the forest camera. That was just there. And such. So, I bought a sun and moon these earrings, okay? These earrings.

And just to show you, because I do have another pair of sun and moon earrings. They're over here. Sudam moon. I know. Tell me why. And by the way, this one's broken. This one's broken. Okay.

That one's not. That's good. What the fuck? Where did that come from? And it's also broken. What? What the fuck? Oh, no.

Okay, we lost them. The thing is like, she passed that. I'm like, it is funny, big hashtag timelines on this one. The, I'm just like, the issue is that it's so easy to stage. That's the other thing. I'm just like, it's hard for me to get, but that had 200,000 likes. So I guess people don't really. There's so many, like, plausible explanations.

Yeah. It's just so funny. I'm like, I don't know. How many, like, I would ask so many, how many, first of all, where'd you get the earrings from? How many of these damn earrings did you buy? Yeah. And so, why is one of them broken and the other one? Isn't, why they both broken?

I don't know. Maybe they were apparently. Yeah. Maybe it's like poorly made and you bought the two suns and the two moons, but you just wear them sun and moon? Yeah, I'm, yeah, but then there's three sons, I guess, technically. But I'm like, I can believe. The laps in memory and the fake, fully fake, those both kind of makes sense to me because there is an explanation, there is a path to take on it.

The pathology I'm trying to access but can't figure out is either of those things happening. Sorry, not the fake one, I guess, are just just the being forgetful. And who is genuinely believing it? Because there were a lot of Mandela affect people that were like, no, the human. universes are actually melding. Can we look at the, and I feel like a lot of, I mean, look, this is the,

like, this has to be the corner of TikTok that was also doing, what's it called when you transport consciousness? Shifting? Shifting. Shifting. This has to be the shifting corner of TikTok, you know? It seems like, but that's the thing is like,

what are the comments like for that one? I think about this and it immediately bumps up against my like, yeah, but I just, this isn't what I really about the universe. It's not how I think the things work. Why would I be trying to think of the least interesting world? Yeah, I would probably go with Mandela Effect. Wait.

Is that serious? It jumped away from you weird. You didn't even touch it while I was it moving. Wait, can we look? Are you fucking kidding? It's like you just want to believe this stuff. That feels more sincere, which is so interesting. That's the thing.

The Matrix is doubling everything except for my bank account. Great observation. She literally. She hit it. Hit the edge of it. Like those little origami frogs you make and you go and they flip. Yeah, she literally did the thing. Multiple people pointed that out.

I couldn't have even conceived of thinking that. I remember what was that rate? Sorry, what was it under her nightstand? I think she didn't have a cat of raid. Wait, I think that's the thing. Yeah, maybe a cockroach brought this earring into your home. Yeah. I'm like, I'm like, you might be, like, open a window when you spray that stuff.

Yeah, you might be, uh, yeah, you might be, uh, like, buffing out and, like watering them on. This is also the same. I guess it's the same corner of TikTok as shifting and Mandela. effect stuff where they're like, well, because recently I've seen a bunch of people posting and commenting about how like, guys, we shifted back because Fruit Loops is Fruit Loops again. And the tricks are shapes again. For kids.

For kids. Yeah. In my timeline, trick's your first. The Cornucopia is back. The cornucopia. And it's like every time now it's like Gen A.I. Just like someone just like takes takes a photo of a vintage for the loom shirt does Gen A.I to put a cornucopia on it.

And then it's like instant views on Twitter. I want to point out something. This reminds me of this old Reddit story. And again, it's like it's Reddit so who knows if it's real. But the story was that this guy went on Reddit was like, I think there's someone

like is breaking into my house and moving stuff around. And then the people in Reddit, I do remember this. Yeah, yeah. The people were like, like write a note to yourself or something. And they found out they had like a carbon dioxide leak. And they were having like memory loss as a result of the carbon monoxide.

Also. They didn't know they were doing moving stuff. They're, okay. This is like slightly similar but different in that there's actually this really wild story of a, and it's like a documented story, it's true, of a woman who thought there was a ghost in her house and she kept saying, I'm seeing this ghost, I'm telling you. And she even like kind of drew the ghost. It's a mirror.

It was consistent every time. And finally her family was like, maybe this is actually a ghost. Like it happened. Enough weird stuff happened. And then that woman died. Her family goes to the house. Ghost to the house? Ghost to the house?

To clean her stuff out and renovate. And they find that there is a human living in her attic. Oh, so wasn't a ghost? It wasn't a ghost. It was an actual human being. just living in her attic. Which is, I'll say it, scarier. Way worse.

Yeah. I know how to, I can move is like the brain and mental health and like critically analyzing that kind of stuff so reduced in our culture that like, personally for me, if anything like inconceivably weird happened, the first thing I would think is I'm crazy. Like the first place I'm even go, if I like genuinely, genuinely believed that I lived at my current address and it turns out I'm one number down, I would go to what it's like, I would immediately go like, oh, it must be me because that is the most obvious thing. Let's get that one out there. I feel like, I think there's a ghost in my house. I'd be like something's wrong than my education. It's like, I think it's like a thing about like biases and like where your biases lead you when you don't have the answers. to something.

And like, because I, the other day I got in my car and there was like two of them. I got my car and I was navigating to our live show. And I was like, why has my car been here before? Oh, that's right. It was in the, it was in the like, it was in the history. And I was like, what? I've in another universe, I already did the live show. And your car recorded that from the other universe.

Your car shifted with you. My car shifted with me. We're so bonded. And then when I got there, I was like, oh, I went to a show here. And then the reason I couldn't, I kept searching for the address in places that I couldn't find it anywhere. And I was like, why can't I find the address? But I've been here before. Why would I have typed this in?

And then when I got there and realized the show that I had been to that studio at, the address was printed on an image. and so I couldn't find it when I searched. Dude, that... I'm like, I feel like there's a lot of things like that. Yeah. And it's...

I understand the compulsion to want to find a narrative or a pocket for something that's like unexplained. But I don't know. Personally, I get comfort in saying,

oh, this must be the weird meat in my skull. Like the funky meat in my skull is going weed. Yeah, recognizing how unreliable the human mind is. But I think, I think there's a lot of people who do not get comfort from the funky meat. They actually...

It was his term. I'm just repeating it. Why do you do it so weird? The funky meat actually is upsetting to them so they would rather believe in religion or spiritual different... What? I just want to show you how uncomfortable I was made by that. Continue. Your meat's funky, bro.

I mean, my meat is actually funky, and I take lots of drugs. to unfuncan. What is going on? You're weird, dude. There's probably. Can we come back with a septic tank? Speaking of funky. I do wonder if there's a George Clinton song called funky meat.

This is like how like a lot of like Greek myths happen. Yeah, they're like, okay, well we don't know. We don't know why lightning exists. So it must be big man in the sky throwing a weapon. Well, it's like, yeah. I think that there is a.

a natural inclination to given point A and point B, and you don't know how you got between those two, to fill it in given solutions that you know and can understand. And like when we learned more about science, it actually fills that in. And this is where conspiracy theories and misinformation and stuff get a lot of legs online because they're, Like, and this is why trusting experts is important is because someone who has like an expert understanding of like physics can explain why lightning comes down.

But as someone who did not study that, they don't, you have to rely on someone who actually has the. You can't get the information. It's very hard to explain to. That's the thing. It's like you. That's why it's the job. They had to like do the nine to five. Yeah, Glorgen the matrix, it's easier.

I think it's very easy to manipulate people when you present every problem as common sense, regardless of the complexity of the problem. Because this happens with the economy. This happens with like public health. Public health and everything. It's like, yeah, public health is a great one because it's like, oh, I should just eat natural foods or something. Or, oh, there's chemicals in my food.

But it's like chemicals became a bad word. like, okay, but everything is chemicals, first of all. And then two, like, these things have been, like, there's criticisms to make of big business agriculturally and stuff. But, like, Louis Pasteur, like, discovering pasteurization as a process to, like, remove harmful, like, bacteria from milk, let's say. It's called that because it's his name? Yeah.

That's so whack. Why? I don't think he named it. That's so I would, if I could, oh, they named after me and I didn't, oh, that sucks. I'm not fully sure. I'm not fully sure. You're right. That's just sucks.

But it is named after him. I just don't know if he named it. But anyway, but yeah. So, and like, yeah, the Eureka moment is, hey, like, what if we, like, heated this stuff up? But, like, it's like you have to, like, that's not common. That's common sense now. It was ungod. You need to boil water to make it, you know, potable.

They also had to know what bacteria was. Like that wasn't a thing. You couldn't, yeah. And so that if you were to say there's little living guys inside of here. It sounds crazy. But it's like, but it's true. And that's the thing. I don't think I got like, I think something that people need to hear a lot more.

And I'm actually not applying this to people making these videos. It's just a bit of fun. and who, you know, the comments. It's more of like an interesting, like, snapshot of the human psyche, mass hysteria, yeah, teenagers online. It's all the same foundation. But I think, like, a lot of people, I almost like kind of want to reach through the screen sometimes, not in this case when I'll just see people being like, no, that doesn't make any sense because of common sense,

etc. And, like, reach to the screen and go, like, being wrong feels exactly the, the same as being right. It is not a secret, like, little bit of doubt that you have in there. Being wrong feels exactly the same. The difference is interrogating it. There is the feeling of like, that's why people will be like, anything that I don't personally align with must have like a sinister element to it.

Like, when we went on the dog free subreddit and people were just like, why are all these people pretending they don't hate dogs to fuck with me? There's two things to that. There's like, why are people pretending to do that? to like dogs because everyone knows that the way I exist is the only way that people are. And then there's also, why is everyone being so pushy with their dogs? And it's like, no, you feel inconvenienced by dogs so you feel like they're being pushed upon you. Yeah, why is this cultural change happening?

I was fine. Okay. Let's watch this. We've got one last one. This one rules. I can't wait. This is not my fucking timeline. There's a glitch in a fucking matrix.

that only me and my sister and my cousin fucking know about. So one of our relatives had a baby around the same time that we were born. Like we all would be the same age right now. Wait, can you pause? There's something like poison about protagonistizing yourself. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I mean, I think it's inevitable on this platform. I'm the only one who knows this thing because I'm the main character and like the world revolves around me.

Dude, I get so much peace out of knowing I'm not and knowing how I've heard. I've mentioned this a lot on the podcast, maybe not so much recently, but 2017 or something, it's like 10 years ago. I was, God, 10 years, almost 10 years. I was depressed about a like breakup that wasn't even a relationship, but it was just like really messing with me. And I started, I hadn't started going to therapy yet. And so I was like, because I'll do it myself. And so I started reading this book called Feeling Good, the new mood therapy, which is like one of the base sees. of cognitive behavioral therapy is like from the 80s.

And, you know, the concept that you can like retrain the neural pathways of your brain and like kind of slowly reduce the psychic damage you take from certain stimuli. Develop resistance. And so I was, there's a part in the book where it talks about catastrophizing and like how you might like process certain like events. and it was like very revealing. It was very, it made me feel very exposed because I was like, oh, these aren't just the secret internal thoughts that I have.

Yes. These are actually thoughts that are codified so much that an old white guy wrote it down in the 80s. Yes. It's not like a unique told. It's separating a behavior from a, Jordanism, finding out how common it is, but one thing you have to do when you find out that stuff is go like, I guess I ain't that special. And that's a really difficult thing to do.

And that's interesting because for some people, it's comforting. Like for me, finding out I'm not that special means the relief. It's a relief because it's not just my weight to bear. It's not my I'm not a cursed. I'm not a cursed protagonist. Yeah, exactly. It's like fighting out I have like lactose intolerance and the other people who are like, thank God they made lactate. Because Other people also had it. If I was the first one, I'm like, well, fuck. And so that is like, I just found it really interesting that it's like, we're the only ones who know about this thing.

I would need so much confirmation to ever make a claim about me being the only one who knows about something. That's why I think we have a default to like probably like be over cynical with posts like this, not negative, but like, there's just no way. There's no way they believe it. It just can't be. They surely they went through every step. They were in every group chat and it's like a lot of people, the second or third thing they do is post.

It's like thing happens, take a nap, post. It's so quick. Not even taking nap. Sometimes it's like sometimes the post is the therapy for people. And I think that that's like it can be helpful, you know, but like there's that there's that old school tactic of writing a letter and never sending it for a reason, right? except for the posting is writing the letter and sending it to everyone in the world. Yeah. Yeah.

It's just like because I want to, there's a thing that my therapist would talk about when, with like certain types of people I've encountered in my life where it's like if someone, like in like let's say relationships, it's like if someone has a really uncomfortable feeling but then they make it your problem, it's like a hot potato is like what she would call it. and it's like because it's so uncomfortable for them to hold, they need to give it to someone else. Yeah. And that is a coping strategy that makes sense, you know,

because it's like I don't want to shoulder this alone. But left to your own devices, you could create this sort of coping strategy for any discomfort where it's like, I'm actually just going to post about it. Yeah, because I mean, what this stuff is obviously chill and fine and a bit of fun. Yeah, who cares.

It's like the 1% tier of a habit and a symptom that does escalate really far. And in the case of the hot potato, it's like, I feel like a lot of the time people do it. Maybe I'm just projecting from personal experience. But like a lot of the time I feel like I have been given hot potatoes under the assumption that to me it isn't hot. Because I seem like I'm fine. So I must just not be bothered by them. Either that or it's so hot for them. They're not thinking about it.

Yes. And it can't go on the ground. the other thing I'll say is like this is like not actually about any of these individual creators because for all I know it's all ARG to them you know but it's when people respond and this is often this thing about TikTok with the kind of blurred lines of what is real what is it when you see 600,000 people like something in all these comments everyone's not in on the joke yes you know what I mean 100 it's it's more a comprehensive and the algorithms are confirmation bias machines.

Like if you believe something and you engage with it, then I want to keep feeding you that so that you continue like giving us your eyeballs. This does remind me when I, when my niece was like eight years old or maybe 11 years old or something. She and I were chit chatting and she said, well, mermaids are real. And I was like, no, they're not. What do you mean?

Like, they're real in the fact that, like, they're in literature. You're facts illogic, like, Santa Claus is just merely a construction of the Coca-Cola company. Well, I was like, what do you mean they're real? And she was like, I saw on TikTok this video and she showed me. And I was like, oh, honey, like, that's someone made that video. Like, it's not real. And it, because it was one of these things that was like, they're like monsters. They're not like, you know.

Oh, yeah, yeah. There's ice giants at the wall. Yeah. And, um, fuck, wait. Yeah, there's like a conspiracy theory thing. It's going to be so hard to cultivate like a kid's imagination while also being like, yeah, no, we can be astronauts, but to be clear, we aren't in space. Don't watch a video that says like we're secretly into simulation.

No, no. Oh, wait. It's also like when there's an aside to it where like it's say someone, you don't believe in the moon landing and you're so adamant about it. You're trying to convince everyone around you and you go, okay, what if it is fake? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now what? Like I still have to go clock in.

You know, like I have to carry on. There's so many things happening here right now that I can physically see and try to do something about that I don't think I could bring myself to care if the moon landing is fake. Yeah, that's so true. Okay, let's see what this thing that only she knows. That's what we're here for us to preach you all of this, all this stuff. So we can think for you. Yeah, play this trophy right year old.

Soupy, soupy, fun time. What was the meal? My dad used to make me a dish that he called eggy, eggy dip dip. It was a piece of toast with a whole cadet of it. I call it soupy, soupy, fun time. But that's like in the same genre. That would be a meal at Freddie Fazbez restaurant. One of our relatives had a baby around the same time.

that we were born like we all would be the same age right and she drowned when she was two right why the fuck why the actual fuck did they call us like they made like a little group message and was like that we're doing a surprise party for her we're like for who she's not fucking dead and i texted i took about because of my cousin my sister like we all have a messy group chat so i texted and i was like she didn't die and my cousin was like right with a question mark and my sister's like i know i'm not tripping then we jump like this not our time no and this shit is scared the fuck at me because i mentioned it to another family where i was like I thought she drowned when she was too.

And I looked at me like I was crazy. Like, what are you talking about? You must be talking about somebody else or something else because why would, like, why would we even say nothing like that? So all three of us remember the same fucking memory happening. I promise I went to her fucking funeral. I promise I did. We had pictures.

And how the, the fundamental thing, yeah. I was going to say my condolences, but I guess no one died. No, that's the thing. It's like, I should have, I feel bad saying it was like this rules. Because the context was that this did not happen. Well, the thing is like, it's, like, it's, It's like when you're so young, first of all, you're like the age of like forming memories barely.

And if you all shared, like whether or not you all share that experience, if you're in constant communication, that doesn't mean anything to me because it's like you all have talked about this sense. And then it's kind of anchored whatever that. Also, one of them might have mentioned it and then altered the other two's memories. That's how memory works. That's what I mean. They might have watched the same episode of TV together, and then that locked in. And I would like, yeah, remember we were there with Ross and Rachel. Yeah.

Maybe she did have a drowning incident but didn't die. And that's what they're, that's traumatic for a little kid to see or hear. Yeah, exactly. And so maybe that's what stuck with them. Yeah, it's like you could have. It's like, yeah, it's like a parent could have not chosen their words properly, like, at a really young age and then you internalize it weird. The thing I'm wondering is like, so they haven't seen each other in any of that time.

Why is that? Or we have seen them and there's like record of it. Yes. And so then it's like, are there records of you guys hanging out and then you don't remember that? Like that's a more interesting thing. But it's not being interrogated any further because. Like 20 years of zero context. shifting to, hey, want to come to their surprise party.

Yeah. Is like, nobody had a wedding or anything in the meantime that you might have seen them at? Or that you thought they were a different person? But it does kind of, this reads like those like writing prompts on Reddit that are like three sentence horror or whatever. Yeah. Got an invite to surprise party for Jane, but Jane died. But Jane died when I was a kid. But I'm like, yeah, wait, did they reply to this?

So has she been in family events? Y'all ain't see her? Also, top comment at Willis Smith, Willis Smith did not have a baby. I haven't slept since I found out that Willis Smith has a baby. Like, what when? And then Willis Smith does not have a child. Maybe I'm Mandelering, but I looked it up immediately. And from what I understand, she did not.

The fact that all three of you remember, the same thing so vividly, you all know for a fact you'll remember, crazy as it sounds, you three may have passed together and don't remember. And maybe she did actually pass away when you were all younger and now you all. are in the same timeline together again because to remember pictures and everything and now there's nowhere to be found is the safer assumption than you could barely even talk and you probably just saw something on TV. Yeah, I worry about like it's like fiction, you know what I mean? Like it's like the comments always feel so much more like, whoa, the people not posting

are the actual like that's the thing because it's a confirmation by. lightning rod for people who like believe this stuff like wholeheartedly. It's the line. I think there's an ethical line that is often being skirted or played around blurred because you can't ask people to disclose what's real and what isn't. And as a result, it pays to create a more interesting world than the world that exists. Yeah. And just say that that's what it is because it then makes you interesting. Right. And also is like maybe this semi k-fabe reality type thing where like, yes, it's like

being ARG true, but it's like not. Maybe everyone's under the, genuinely, maybe I just am so far from it that I can't imagine it, but like maybe everyone agrees and just operates on the assumption that everything is like 40% fake and that everybody is actually like completely chill with that. Kind of like if we watch a Netflix documentary, we go like, okay, well, they fudge a lot of the stuff. I'm going to look around the fudge. I'm going to use my funky brain meat to try and to wobble through the fudge at the septic tank. Okay, okay.

I just don't think. As it would. Fudge, funky meat. I think that people aren't thinking that deeply about it. And that's the, and it's just more fun. Yes. It's just more fun. Yeah.

Are we, are we the fun spoilers? Yes. And I like that. But like that's the thing. It's like, I'm like, and that's okay. I think that it's part of the anthropological like kind of analysis of. Because I, for example, I don't actually believe in ghosts. But sometimes it's fun to be like, ooh, spooky.

There's a ghost in my house or whatever. And it's also like, I think if you get any kind of enjoyment out of like ruining a like a bit or, like if you play d-n-d and then you just like try and like you got like okay well that role doesn't matter because the game's not even real like okay you're a baby you have a baby brain you're not fun like um i went on a ghost hunting stream thing once and i don't believe in ghosts in the slightest but for the stream i just opened myself up i just said that's a fun for two hours i'm going to ruin this for what to signal that i'm the best at being on reddit ever or something i always use the mario card analogy where it's like you get hit with a shell for mario card and you

you're like, fuck. But then, but you react as if something bad happened to you for real. Yeah. Yes. You know what I mean? And that's like,

I don't know what the like psychological term is for that, but it almost feels like zooming in versus zooming out. Right. Like being in the moment. Oh, yeah. Yeah. With something. And then your like what matters to you is only what's within the screen.

Is that, is that the same phenomenon where you, when you close a door too hard and you go, oh, even if you, It didn't hit you at all. It's just like, I,

like, if I, like, accidentally kick a tree or something, I'll do the same thing. Or trip, yeah, I, I've done that. I,

I said, I didn't actually hurt yourself. Ow on. Yeah, exactly. It's like, but the Mario Caught thing, it's like,

uh, while this control is in my hand. Your blinders are on. Like, I'm playing the fiction of the moment. I think it's like just, yeah, you're being in the moment.

When I'm playing Resident Evil Requiem and I actually feel like I'm being bitten to death by zombies when I'm holding the, I guess it's a suspension of disbelief, but the controller, holding the controller makes it scarier. Yeah, or like, yeah, it's like a zombie running at you is like, ah, I got to get out of here.

I mean, it's the same thing as when you're reading a story and you can imagine you paint the story in your mind, you know, where it's like when bad things happen, you feel emotions. I, there's some. What is the term for it? It's just like empathy, but no, it's like. Yeah, good point. There's definitely some psychological term.

for that but I know. Yeah. And I say suspension of disbelief because that's what's broken when you come out of it. You know what I mean? But it's, yeah. That elective like or even I guess like something granted like in professional sports, there is a actual like a lot of stuff on the line or something. But if you're just like playing tennis with a friend or something.

Yeah. You are for that 40 minutes going like we care about this right now. Like we care about this racket has to hit that ball and it's not allowed to go outside of the square. It's like me watching challengers. I know nothing about sports or of tennis. I know nothing about tennis. I know stuff about sports.

I know nothing about tennis. But the movie makes me care about this game and understand the rules somehow. I ain't seen that for your movie. Well, why not? It's got a girl in it. I know. Yeah. I know you hate girls.

But it's got two boys in it. Okay. The ratio sounds pretty cool. You know, it's got lots of boys. though. Johnwick, one, two. Three's got a girl in it. What about ballerina?

I liked ballerina. It's sex as she kills men. It's misandrous. Oh, no. That's awesome. We should watch Challenger's. I like it. I also like it.

Remember when we watch sinners and you can look at me and saying, see, I'm watching a black movie and then clapping for yourself? That was weird. I did, what's funny is I did just say empathy and empathy is a part of this, but there's suspension of belief,

I guess, and then there's also paradox of fiction, which is interesting. Spension of belief? Yeah, or emotional response. The paradox of emotional response to fiction, a philosophical dilemma that questions how people can experience strong emotions

to fictional things. I'm glad that there wasn't like a term that it's called, it's called Zoinkers. It's named up to past, mist of pasteurization. It's named after John Zoykers. Oh, we should show respect. But yeah, Paradox of fiction, I guess, is what this is.

What's a... I'm trying to separate suspension of belief from disbelief. I don't know if that's real. I just... It was in the AI overview, so... I mean, let's check it out on the Patreon. I'm curious. It sounds cool. Yeah, let's the...

But paradox of fiction, I'm looking at the Wikipedia page. That's such a muse album name. Paradox of fiction. What about... What about Paradox for? What about Paradox? The Pokemon set? What about that?

Sorry. Shut the hell up. All right. That's about it here on Sad Boys for today. However, the fun's not over. We're going to head over to Sad Boys Nights. Oh, my God. I've got to talk about this Lego Star Wars heist that we are still learning about,

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What the heck? But then there's the police, there's Utah. Does it go all the way to the top? It goes at least all the way to the Mormon church and, uh, which you like, Love. I love that. I love Mormons. And the Utah Police Department and a YouTuber named Reckless Ben who's engaging in reckless

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