Sad Boyz - He Tricked His Audience With AI (w/ Carl Tart)

Episode Date: September 30, 2023

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hello and welcome back to sad boys that's not how we introduced the podcast that's fine how does the intro go to the podcast well i just edited a gold video oh that's the thing welcome to sad boys a podcast about feelings and other things also i'm jarvis uh i've been thinking about trying this out let me know okay this is probably so your name so that yeah so it's gonna be cool anyway okay howdy i should have done it i didn't like it now in retrospect that was rough today we're joined by a very special guest a comedian an actor a writer a podcast legend the one and only carl tart howdy that's how you do it that's how you do it that's our new intro you keep doing a thing

you're you're hired actually you're out lean into it hey huh not leaning sit up howdy there oh no you're getting worse no you're also losing confidence as we speak there's gonna be nervous cowboys right yeah he just kicks down the door to the saloon he goes hey i'm so sorry about the door yeah kicks down the door the saloon goes my bad no i just wanted to get bounties or whatever what are cowboys doing i please have a bounty what do cowboys do the cowboys do yeah they wrangle cows the boring ones but why were they cool was that like a thing that we respected back then yeah because they i mean some people could i mean it's a gift to be able to rank right you're like a cow whisperer yeah yeah it's weird that i associate cowboy outlaw out knowing i think i was complaining out out on the range the cow poke is doing cow work cow poke yeah i want to get really into it this early in the podcast of course you know why

they call them cowboys is it a black people thing it is a black oh it always comes back to slavery yeah dude america in this slavery shit yeah cut it out man hey no wait you're not free from this yeah you did you you're involved i lived in amsterdam for a while and they would love to be like well we are not racist we do not own slaves you guys made the boats that brought you controlled water yeah famously you're involved yes we made the boat um carl thank you so much for joining us how How is your Monday going? It's the start of a brand new week. Start of a brand new week. My Monday is going pretty well at this point because we got a tentative deal. Oh, yes, we did. Yes. Congratulations to all of the people who work

tirelessly for, you know, striking against the AMPTP. WGA has a tentative deal uh sag is still striking so solidarity to them yeah we are it still pins down until the actors you know but that's i mean that's amazing i think the news came in last night right yeah that's huge does the deal stay tentative until that is no the deal doesn't stay tentative the deal won't be tentative after this week okay cool like they're gonna like they're gonna send it to the board and the board will ratify it right change some of the language in the in the contract and then it'll be hopefully on yeah i was gonna say i saw you know some of the stuff preliminarily seemed like it was very exciting people were like happy about the terms so then is it just fucking pedal to the metal i mean they're incentivized to get people back in

the room yesterday yeah yeah yeah yeah so hopefully it's a good deal i can't wait to see it yeah i don't know what it is yet right we'll get an email yeah this week probably with all the deal points and hopefully then we go back to being unemployed still right but with the hope yeah but now you can say like uh along with the rest of your credits, you can be like, writer, which is pretty cool. Yeah. Writer. And I could do that. And I could do it.

I could technically do that. Scab. Yeah. And I wouldn't, it wouldn't be a bad thing if I did it too. It wouldn't be scabbing. People don't account for like, what about all of them? What are they going to scab now? Exactly.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. In this trying time, what about the scabs? Well, I mean, let's talk about that you said we were talking about how online are we yes i'm not very uh but i did hear that a lot of online people were asked to scab yeah because a lot of those people don't understand right the ramifications of that yes and nor do i think they fully care because they're like well i'm making all this money yeah ice cream so good i. I don't care if I never work.

That's what we do also. Yeah, that's what y'all do. Okay, good. We'll do a six-hour shift of ice cream's so good. I mean, I just really like ice cream. So it's not related. But yeah, no, that's a really good point. Even things as tiny as, you know, I think I got invited to some like party for the Teenage

Mutant Ninja Turtles thing. And that was the thing where it's like, I don't know if the optics are the best to like do this right now, but you do see peers or friends of friends at like red carpets and they're like so stoked on it because they don't know any better. And I, it's like, you can get, I think it's the influencer's responsibility to like, you know, be aware of what's going on in the world, especially with a big platform, but also you, it's a little insidious from, from the studio. Oh yeah. Cause they're like, we can get these people who are more popular than the actors. Sure. Yeah. You have like the social media numbers or whatever.

Yeah. Like if there's influencers out there who don't have the credit list I have, but the studio is like, well, they know them. They don't know you. Like only 65 year old women know you. And also the influencers don't know us, the studios.

We, we have this like weird mystique and power and cynicism. And I think a lot of people maybe don't get how broad guilds are. Yeah. That like, yeah. and I think a lot of people maybe don't get how broad guilds are that like taking away just like solidarity and kindness and empathy on the part of people standing with

those striking if they want to transition into traditional media at some point which a lot of them do that's what I was going to ask do the people want to transition into traditional media is that I feel like what i was noticing with influencers that were technically crossing picket lines or whatever they're like we don't care like i i make

so much money on this app that i think keeps getting banned state by state right so hopefully i mean yeah they're like as long as the as long as the government doesn't ban tiktok i'm a god yeah and i'm untouchable except for by legislation putting all of your eggs in that basket and like the tiktok basket is like uh working in like oil right now yeah this is sticking we're so rich wow i'll see people on tiktok that have two million followers on tiktok and i'll click on their Instagram and they have 1600. It's a huge it's a huge thing with TikTok where you can get famous so fast, but you have I mean, and it's a it's a valid critique of the platform because they're so good at putting, you know, your stuff in front of people's eyeballs. But they're so dependent on the feed that the consumer doesn't know who they're watching.

Yeah. And that's like, you know, like people, no one knows how the sausage is made. No one cares. But it's tough. Like, because the only way that those people can then get back on somebody's feed is by doing the same thing over and over again. And that's how you get into like this, like one trick pony problem on tiktok where people feel like and it's a they burn out so fast or at least i have a lot of friends on tiktok who are like and you know jacob knows it's like we have friends who were like big on tiktok who are like this sucks because the only way i can get the numbers and like make a living is by doing the same thing over and over

and i can't express myself i kind of feel like i'm just in this loop. Yeah. You know, I've seen that a literal loop. Yeah. I've seen now. I love that's my favorite thing. Yeah. A tick tockers. That first video is funny. You got me. Yeah. And then you go to their next 10 videos and they all have 83 views. Right. Same thing. And it's them not knowing how to actually do comedy. Right. So it's like you're not heightening the joke man you got right you could you could do the same thing just heighten it just just give me something else right that's better than this yeah yeah it's it's like the this is idea the idea that popped off with a hat this is the idea that popped off with another hat does that you like that no okay

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Mosey on over to Aura.com slash sad boys to get a 14-day free trial and to see what of your private information has been leaked on the internet thanks to aura for sponsoring the show now back to the show uh there's it honestly when i see people there was you know a jump after vine wrapped up and so many of viner's transitioned to youtube that was the birth of a lot of the 2010s biggest youtubers they're still very relevant now this i don't know the market's a little more oversaturated i don't know how you make that transition how do you do that how do the streamers get how how do the kai synods of the world become who they are well like kai is like i think a lot of it's parasocial right so you've got to have a connection to the stream you've got to feel like you're their friend i think a lot of it's parasocial right so you've got to have a connection to the stream

you've got to feel like you're their friend i think kai has done that exceptionally well and so he has fans you know what i mean it's not just like oh i see your videos on my feed and i like it it's like i will come to time square you know and show up for like that was free ps5 or whatever and uh or he did that he was in the uzi video and he just tweeted and it brought i mean who knows how many people was easy and how many people was him but like they flooded a street because he tweeted like i'm going to a street yeah he's just a very likable guy but sometimes it's like it's like lightning has to strike you know every yeah it's like uh it's a thing that people want to replicate they want to study but there's like that it factor and sometimes it happens with people who do not deserve the platforms you know what i mean

who are very bad influences but they have you know tons of people who i mean if you like look at logan paul right like he's careful we didn't want to go oh yeah he's don't get me on this episode he's been on a he's been on like a very long attempted redemption tour and it's worked for him because he's become extremely rich and famous but he's also talented uh and so like now you have he's like ridden the like hate train so far that now he's a very successful wwe performer okay and people are like just learning about him from that and they're like this guy is exceptionally talented at this and then everyone who hates him is like he is and damn that sucks he's just a good broadcaster why are you so good at this annoying yeah i think when i when i find because i because

i don't fully watch a ton of stuff like that when i find somebody that i'm like i actually like this guy yeah why did you have to start off like that right right and because you actually are good as like his brother yeah it's actually a decent boxer right right but i want him to lose every time you want him to lose and it's like you see like um my uh boxing trainer didn't know any of the like the context about his life before boxing because currently he has a lot of good pr you know he's like uh he's paid his female boxers like a lot more than they're traditionally paid he's like pushed the industry forward in some you know ways uh that people can respect and stuff but then i can be like did you know about these crypto scams though did you know about these music videos

that he did when he was in a music video war with his brother and how weird that got? But most of time, most of the time that box singers exist or athletics in general has been on TV has supplemental shit just didn't matter at all. It was like, hey, I heard, didn't Peyton Manning kiss his kids on the mouth?

Other than that, yeah, but he's good at this game. Peyton Manning kisses his kids on the mouth. Other than that, everybody's good at this game. Peyton Manning, that's Tom Brady. Peyton Manning hates his kids. You get it straight. He will not kiss his kids. He will never kiss his kids on the mouth. It's a bond principle. Yeah, you got paid by Peyton Manning's people to say that he would even kiss his kids.

Yeah, because people love Tom Brady. They want his steez like it's probably like frustrating sometimes to be like like my packer was like a bad guy that was like a really really really bad i've heard some things uh he's like a huge advocate for the ultra ultra right wing oh yeah like in the um the philippines like the the leader yeah i only know about my boxing coaches from the philippines like the the leader yeah i only know about my boxing coaches from the philippines so he's giving me the tea about that but then it's like yeah but it's also like manny pacquiao okay this i want to make a very weird comparison last night i was

watching love is blind there's a new love is blind season they're happening it seems like every month and still blind love is still blind it's a failed experiment i don't know how they can with their full chest say that it's like a viable alternative to dating apps and stuff when none of it works out do they still call it an experiment every they do they do call it an experiment there's no control variables there's no control group um how many times does the surgery have to fail nick lachey is still there yeah yeah i dropped the scalpel. There was a guy, this like black dude, who's like probably 6'6 to 6'8. I was like, I thought he was like a basketball player or something. No, turns out competitive Pokemon player.

I'm like, my man. I go and find him on social media. He's liking Elon Musk memes. He's liking Tucker Carlson tweets. And then also he's liking mkbhd tweets and i'm like oh i like that no but now i'm now i feel conflicted i don't want to root for him i hope he fails i hope his relationship goes down uh what is what mkb oh mk this guy marquez brownlee he's a tech oh i know that yeah yeah he's awesome he's also been on this show

shout out um and uh yeah no he's great so He's also been on this show. Shout out. And, yeah, no, he's great. So I'm like, oh, I can align with you on Pokemon. I can align with you on Tech Guys. Why do you have to like Elon Musk? Find out he's a petroleum engineer, too. So he's like in the oil industry. This guy's really challenging you.

And he's 6'8". This dude seems cool. Yeah, I know. It's like, ah, tomato, tomato. He's like, he's really trying to balance it his way into heaven he's like doing enough hail marys to like just get over the line yeah he's he's heaven maxing um but yeah uh it's so speaking of being online like we are too online and it's this is a great opportunity for us to talk to someone who's in the real world because um i've often thought if i explained the stuff that becomes a big thing online to like an average person it would their head would explode so let's get into quevel cop

okay there's no reason that you should have ever heard this man's name. I didn't even know who he was last year. It's YouTube in a sphere that is younger, but also like not my interest at the very least. Quibble Cop is a Minecraft YouTuber who blew up. He became extremely rich and famous, has like, you know, 15 million followers and then like peaked a few years back.

Yeah. And then he started to, a lot of these people, they burn out because they're like, oh, I don't want to do the same thing over and over. I've already made my million. So like, what do I gain from continuing at this? So he started trying to, you know, we were talking about the strike, the advent of AI. He is trying to replace himself with ai so last week or two weeks ago he turned his channel into an entirely ai driven channel so the voice is ai there's a gameplay of somebody playing minecraft we don't know who it is but it's like a completely ai generated stream

and it's supposed to emulate exactly what he did before his tweets are allegedly written by AI hmm now what do they call now that is X seats or posts posts could we go to quabble cops on YouTube channel so fun fact the club copy I experiment is not working yeah they don't like it people are not they're like what do you take us for it's clear that you know we're not here for this because if Kai Sinat replaced himself with AI tomorrow you it would be obvious that I'm here for the person I'm here for like the friendly relationship that I the comfort that I feel like hanging out with this person I'm not going to get that from an artificial intelligence. What's cool too is that like the failure of this

or the underperformance is not going to have any impact on any other industry or any other creator. People are going to be like, yeah, of course we can like make Netflix shows with AI. Yeah. People aren't on some, it's the uncanny valley. Like your bones just know it's wrong. You know it's wrong, yeah.

Wait, can we watch the most recent video 18 hours ago? Just like watch a tiny little bit of it. I want to see if I even understand what's going on. Feed their leader, Scary Larry, to save the world. Can we do it? What's until the end to find out? Whoa, weird. Oh, wow.

We have to go into this very beautiful looking house. Hello, welcome to your new home. Check it out. This actually looks pretty nice. I think that's AI. It's hidden around to restore energy. So, I mean, Kyle, we should say, right, the idea is that while he's talking, he's supposed to be playing it live.

Right. But like he's looking into the camera. With his like hands all the way. Yeah. Yeah. He's looking. Yeah. He looks like he's in a hostage video.

He's supposed to be behind it. Because he's supposed to be playing it live. It's not for, he didn't like already play it. No. Exactly. He's doing commentary on it. He's supposed to be playing live. He's supposed to be playing live. Which is the point of stream directly it was the point of

streaming he's looking directly it's like it's the artifice of a stream right because he's like uh trying to make it look like he's streaming but the stream never occurred yeah and this is all this is like an ai avatar this exists now by the way there's a couple of companies doing this where they take video of your face and like deep fake it moving that's crazy so now it's like his mouth is moving and it technically matches the words but you can tell it doesn't match the tone of the moment he's not emoting he's not expressing himself and i think that's also the reason that his uh his background is so sterile is because that makes it easier for the ai to draw his face yeah that's what his hands were in frame or something yeah extra fingers and shit like that

um wait so could we watch that video now about him the end of club of cop ai 11 years ago i started my youtube journey my one and only goal was to entertain as many people as possible to share my joy with the world and to form new friendships. I had a lot of fun from playing with my best friends to meeting completely new strangers. New strangers. Dude, I'm tired of this lens flare transition. Anything better than this,

and I wouldn't trade this in for anything in the world, but even a dream job can't stop me from growing up and growing older. And this made me realize this is not something I'll be able to do for the rest of my life. I feel like he's going to do a reveal where he's like, this was all AI. So I decided to clone myself. I decided

to make a... Horrifying, by the way. Worse than nothing. However, I made a mistake. I thought people would love Cobra Cop AI as much as I do, both for its exciting technology and its unbound creator dude so scary that they wanted to see me the real me it's not him that's not him this is my creativity led by me this is the story i want to share with the world this story of quill cup AI But like I said, I made a mistake. I decided to share a quill cup AI. We have this version he wasn't

100% ready. Oh, he's eyes wait. This is like a troll. Yeah, he's blinking. Yeah, this is not real That's why we decided to train a brand new quill 2.0 model. And the results, they're astonishing. Every second you've been watching of this video so far has been completely AI generated. Oh, dude, that's why he's wearing a turtle. There's not even a collarbone

to get wrong. Qualcomm AI and a future in which influencers can use AI to enhance their storytelling, lower the barriers of entry, and share themselves with the world. It's like a big coat

for like, I don't want to do any work. Yeah. He's realizing that it's not sustainable to do that and it's probably bad for you. I think he's just bored. The entire intro is like, well, the one thing I don't want to do is ever give up on this channel.

What is that? It seems like you are giving up on the channel by like uh outsourcing your own work to ai now you do get to profit on it that's cool but i think the the viewers and subscribers are going to feel like they've you know he's pulled a fast one on him yeah they're here for it's not the same if someone didn't actually put the effort in and let's be honest like a part of this the reason he could get away with this kind of cynicism is that his audience is kids and he thinks they're dumb yeah that it doesn't matter but also kids that want to look at like a steve jobs weird tonal presentation on a white background yeah you look like he's at a funeral yeah i'd love to know what these guys's lives are like who have been doing this for a long time so i i started watching youtube when

it first came out right and you know muck bangs and yeah yeah people eating wendy's in their front seat like that i've always liked that type of stuff like drinking a full like 12 ounce soda shout out badlands chug i'm a huge fan yeah but i and i used to go, man, I should have started it back then. Right. But the reason why to get vulnerable on sad. Here we go. The reason why I don't do it is because I don't like the impersonal engagement very much. Now, I know that that sounds wild because I do a ton of podcasting and I'm on TV and stuff like that. But if you come up to me in person right we we good as gold yeah yeah like come talk to me come i'll do these i'll do shows i'll do shows in other cities and stuff like that and and uh people will come up to me and be like yo man i love you on flagrant ones or

bang bang or whatever it is and i'm like dope man hell yeah thank you let's go get a drink like we can kick it now right because i see you i feel you you're a real person yeah comment section stuff like i just i just can't i'm gonna lose a lot of fans probably but i just don't like it no i think that's more relatable than you probably think because we talk a lot about it where it's like it's a double-edged sword you know it's like a thing that we profit from and benefit from but at the same time it can be very bad for your mental health to really like go into it like it's like i've experienced this firsthand because i think i try too hard to like i don't know it's like if you have any self-critique or self-criticism or inner voice that is critical you're going to

be able to find a comment that agrees oh yeah that inner voice right if you think you talk too much if you think you don't look if you think your eyebrow looks weird or something like that somebody's gonna be like hey anybody knows yeah yeah that's like that's the thing i'm sensitive about yeah that's an ai yeah hold on that's a caterpillar yeah i would love a follow-up video to this in like five years where the ai is like i never wanted to leave this channel this is the one thing i care about and then i even lower res shittier looking yeah it's created its own ai

bubble cop specifically has like um i think i have a fairly cynical view because they've gone through this YouTuber arc of like, this person blew up at a time when it was extremely lucrative to be doing like Minecraft content. And then they were getting like crazy rich. So I think at a certain point, their content became like, check out my new mansion type content. And that's like, okay. And that wasn't also relatable to their audience of kids. Who's like, I just want to watch you play video games. I don't care about your like solid gold bath. And I think that like seeing that this is the same person

who was like making that content. At least I think that they made that kind of content. I hope I'm not like slandering them. But it's like that. It just feels like they're just how can i get the most benefit for the least amount of work which i think on youtube because it's the parasocial thing people don't really respect so i think that's why it's like not really popping off do you get uh more people coming up to you from tv stuff or i mean there's

probably a lot of bang bang people like chief it's yeah yeah bang bang for sure what depending on where i'm at it's like if i'm on the vegas strip i get a lot of black women in uh bachelor bachelorette parties being like hey that's from tv and i love that yeah uh and then the other day i was in new york and i was staying next to where that musical gutenberg is playing uh-huh and i didn't know at first i was like i didn't know what it was it is written by a ucb comedian named anthony king yeah yeah around for a long time but uh i'm standing outside of it and people are like walking by being like hey dude i fucking love you right where are y'all coming out of yeah yeah yeah why is there like why am i getting recognized you were standing next to the focus group for

carl tartan so like where are the girls standing next to me who would think this was cool right i'm standing next to the doorman and he's like are you famous i didn't think so but yeah so i it different demographics for different things right so like those black women on those bachelorette parties do not know what the hell comedy bang bang is and those white dudes walking out of goody bird are like grand what yeah no that's six foot five guys that weigh 110 pounds yeah yeah exactly yeah i think that's something that we can relate to just because we are more fans of like i think in the real world we're big fans of like live comedy

usually be like some of these like comedian podcasts and stuff the like old guard like comedy bang bang and the like uh but then the our fans are usually more the like they see there's other people who do what we do online and they see us collaborate with those people and we haven't really connected the dots so much for it's never who i think it's going to be yeah somebody does come up the americana is where people come up if i go to like near a mall yeah something on a saturday yeah that's tight i i will say uh kind of on the same lines of what people know you as and when you have like i guarantee there'll be somebody who calls this a comedy bang bang sad boys crossover

right right oh the the comments where it's like unexpected crossover it's like it's not a crossover yeah like we i that that was so i did uh game changers yeah I did it months ago, but it came out a couple weeks ago. Right. And I was getting hit up by people who, like friends from high school. Okay. That I haven't talked to since high school. Yeah. Man, I'm so proud of you, man.

Right. I was like, you're proud of me for this? Yeah. Shout out to Sam. I loved it. I had a great time. I'm glad that it reached as many people as it did. But I have been on network

television if this was 25 years ago i would have been steve urkel you know that's that's so real um because you just never know like when the audience crosses over right that's i'll get that with um like uh i was on good mythical morning or whatever like random links thing and then it was like people from high school like Facebook Messaging me they were just like oh I watched this every day and I was so surprised to see you and I was like You know I've been what it's like when I started my youtube channel, and I posted on it I was like hey, I'm doing this new thing nobody gives a shit right yeah Everybody's like all that weird thing you're doing and you like find they're like, oh, wow, I had no idea you were successful. That's cool.

You didn't know. You didn't recognize this at all. No, you didn't think we were grinding for this. Yeah. This whole time. The crossover thing to it. When I when I did Game Changers and people were saying like, oh, I love this comedy. Bang, bang crossover.

Like, it's not a comedy. Bang, bang crossover. First of all, everybody on this stage, you see, we've all known each other for a decade. Right. If not more like we all we all came up through the same program this the same improv like thing like we all have done this and you guys just don't know it right so that doesn't mean but i know they're not they don't mean it as an insult but that is why i also cannot be front facing yeah and so because i take it like that i go why are you saying that why right why

are you only because it it i feel like sometimes it minimizes the work that i've put in and the work that i've done i don't think i'm better than anybody no but it's it minimizes when you just say well i know you from that one thing and i don't give a crap about anything else you do yeah it makes me go like well shit i put in a lot of damn work on everything else that i do including that there's probably a warm-up period right for flagrant onto people like hey bang bang handbook crossover yes yes not knowing that i've known those dudes for years like not knowing that sean's wife is my lawyer you know what i'm saying like not not knowing that stuff they go like okay now i can compute this right or the people who don't like me on comedy bang bang but then when i do something else that they like they go oh i know that guy i know him right take ownership like i know that yeah he's one of us we go way back yeah

it's like we don't okay i don't know who you are yeah there's some feedback bang bang l missing on that every single time yeah um that is weird i guess that yeah like most of the stuff that you would i mean like literally the hours that go in to your week would be not front-facing yeah but the day-to-day acknowledgement or like the your voice comes out to the most in front-facing content that's when people hear yeah if they're like i recognize your voice from somewhere it's like from the writer's room of family guy yeah exactly they they do like people see me in person they go wow i did not expect you to be this large like yeah they do that a lot and i'm sure they probably do that with y'all too tall guys yeah because uh you know you everybody looks the same size on a camera you have to fit the whole

person in the frame yeah so you frame it up. I thought you were just like a torso. Yeah, people are like, oh, I thought you were gonna be a little boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're gonna be a tiny little fairy. That's why I hate when there'll be an actor who's like had some famous role back in the day. And then they're like, whatever happened to that guy? Or I just saw that guy working at a grocery store.

Oh, how the mighty have fallen. It's like people have to live their whole lives. They go through the ebbs and flows of everything. And just because you haven't seen me in the places that you're looking, it doesn't mean I haven't been working this whole time. Frankie Maynard has become a race car driver. Yeah. Way better than I am.

Big Clipper fan too. That happens when people have to get jobs and stuff like that they don't realize first of all homeboy from the cosby show right uh he they they like made him viral for working at yeah like first of all after you are in an established character like that on such a popular show sometimes you can't get work after you get so because the same people who are saying man you fell off they're also the same people that when they see you and something else go i can't see him outside of that role right right and harry potter he's back yeah yeah yes uh miracle workers

i worked on that show right like people still be like man harry potter yeah can you believe it yeah and i'm like he's actually a really nice guy that we've heard nothing but the nicest i was surprised i was actually excited. When I got casted on it, I was like, oh, yeah, this will be a fun day at work. Right. And then I saw him in person. I was like, because I'm not a huge Harry Potter guy. I saw the first movie when I was in fifth grade, and then that was it for me.

I didn't expect you to be so big, Daniel. I did not expect you to be the same as excited as me. Fun fact about him, he has his personal guy, bodyguard, helper type dude. Real unassuming British guy. He's like Bear Grylls. He was like a special ops. He was like, oh, that dude will kill you in one. Right.

He's got the stuff that you have to touch. And he was definitely a dude that if you're some cocky, like drunk asshole at a bar, we'll be like, I'll kick that from your ass. Throw us a tarantula at you. He's like, hey mate, chat. But nah, Daniel, shout out Daniel Radcliffe. He was really nice. Shout out Daniel Radcliffe.

He, I mean, we were just at a, I don't even know how to describe what it was, a Jack in the Box crossover gourmet event. Oh man, a comedy baby Jack in the Box crossover. I event. Like, do you know how it went? Like, did I know what I was doing? Oh man, that comedy, they made Jack in the Box crossover, dude. What's that? I did not expect Jack to be this big. Yeah, I didn't know I expected Jack to be that big.

But I sat next to one of the Daniels, the co-directors, Daniels, who people now, I guess, mostly would know from everything everywhere, right? Yeah, but you're a big Swiss Army Man guy. It's probably my favorite movie of the last 20 years. Daniel Radcliffe is fucking incredible in that movie and i think he'd probably have the same reaction that i did when i was fanning out and sitting next to this guy where i went like dude i gotta tell you

fuck i love swiss iron man extremely important movie to me makes you cry every time he was like wow thanks every now and then i meet one of you freaks yeah this thing and if you want just like to daniel radcliffe and you're like i love equus that play right most of the gig part actually oh man yeah that happens when people will shout out a character that i didn't like that i did on comedy band or something one time they're like man i love when you did that i go you did what are other characters like other people's characters you don't like who are the worst ones least favorite character that i hate i don't i don't i haven't listened to the show in so long i haven't listened to it since i started doing it oh i yeah are you are you a person who goes back and looks at like your body of work hell i can't i can't do it no

i don't know i don't some people are like they like wake up eat their cereal in the morning and like watch people reacting to their funniest moments and i'm like how do you do that i cannot i would that's mortification yeah i can't do it like i have my my podcast partners listen to the shows and edit them i was like i don't care what you take out what you keep in like unless i remember like i don't don't put that in right like like when i do gossip kings with lamar he listens to it and he edits it yeah i can't listen to it yeah foosballs i can't listen to it like literally galan can we had an improv show the other night and greg galan came to me was like yo did you listen to the last episode and it was the one that i wasn't on i was

like no right yeah it is kind of an improv instinct. Like, even though you are recording some of that stuff, it kind of goes against your. Yeah. Once it's done, it exists. That's the freedom of the podcast to some extent. And like, we do listen for the workflow sake, especially if there's an ad or something.

The team collects. Yeah, it's a little bit different. Like, I was just having to watch back something that i did that like an editor worked on but then i am putting my name on it and then i have to like make sure that it's like back it's up to the standard of back when i used to edit everything because just now it's like we don't have time once published i never re-watch my videos yeah once it's like we don't have time. Once published, I never rewatch my videos. Yeah. Once it's in the world, maybe once or twice I didn't watch it the first time. Yeah. But I don't know.

There is like a no comments. I can't read comments. Not because they're bad or anything like that. But it's more a case of like, I don't want to remember that this video came out. Yeah. I want to enjoy the making and then it's it's the the authorship's like gone and i like don't really watch other channels like mine so i'm not gonna watch i'm more of a quabble cop guy yeah any human i'm just not a fan any ai generated

content you're actually just a huge fan you turn you off completely i want my lip to move around when i'm not speaking man Man, what if they do AI Badlands Chugs and it's just, he goes, alright, here we go, and you see the liquid going by. Damn. Dude, that would mess people up. They're like, I thought you were putting your body under a menstruator. I thought you were marching to an early death.

This really takes the fun out of it because I like to do it along with you. Joke's on me. I went and got a bag of Popeye's sweet tea. Now I'm watching a version of this where you'll never die. You said you watch, do you still watch a lot of mukbang content? Yeah, I do.

I like watching like, oh, this guy eats the spiciest noodles. One of my main guys is LA Beast. Okay. No. Beast. So it's crazy. I thought of myself as a freak, but then I showed my friends a video of his and they, we all had the same reaction.

It's so funny. So he eats, this video is like 10 years old, but he eats a five pound bag of Haribo sugar free gummy bears, which are a diuretic so like because of the enzyme they use to make the bear sugar-free it they make they make you shit eats this whole bag it takes him a long time and he's looking at the speed he puts them all on like a big plate the whole bag and he's just going at him he's eating him and he's speeded up and he plays this like this song that's like yeah and he's like in fast motion and he's eating him and the clock is going behind him then finally he gets done and he's just like he rushed to the bathroom and he throws up and then after he throws up he immediately goes ah it's like coming out of both hands and we oh there was another one where he ate a bunch of like novelty big candy like big

wait did he know it was a diary did he know what he was getting himself yeah yeah it's all like amazon reviews and stuff like that right like don't eat these yeah because they will make he's like oh well if i eat them I'll get a bunch of views. Yes, yes, yes. Other mukbang YouTubers leaving reviews like, shit, shit, so much. Yeah. It was great. They're leaving it as it's happening. They're like, I can't make it stop.

But then, he did this other video where he's eating these big candies. He ate like a three pound Snickers, two gigantic Reese's cups, a big Ferrero Rocher, and like all this big shit. And then he has like this, a big gummy Coke.

Gummy Coke. He's like half of that. He's like, this is disgusting. And I'm like, you think? Even for me. I hate Coke flavored candy. I don't know how people, remember bottle caps?

Yes. Because I still to this day cannot tell you what Coke tastes like. 08.21 What is it? I know what it doesn't taste like. 08.24 Everything else. 08.25 Like I like Coke. I go, ah, you know, just like the commercials, but then

every alternative, I mean, Pepsi is its own thing, but like every cola product, I do not know what cola is. It does taste like what it probably is, which is some 1800s medicine cure. Cure all for everything. Like a barley that's antibiotic. Yeah, yeah. We should do that.

Five pounds worth. Yeah, there you go. Oh, yeah. I'll watch behind door number one. So then it comes out with a big giant gummy bear. Have you seen the gummy bears that are like a big giant one? So that's the last one. So he couldn't eat. No, he died. He ate all

of the other candy. This is one session? Yeah, you can watch it. The LA Beast eats big candy. He ate it and then he got to the gummy bear and he was like, I can't eat anymore candy So what I'm going to try to do is microwave this And drink it And drink it

And since it's going to take me forever To eat But I'm going to put this in the microwave And then attempt to drink it This is like a memorial So he put it in my way. Now watch what happens. I don't feel well.

Look at this. Wait. Thank you so much. Oh We cannot show that. Wait. It's... Oh! I'm going to hell. I'm going to eat that five pound sugar-free gummy bear. So, on this point, happy future holidays to everybody. That was the giant candy gauntlet challenge, which I don't think I passed today. So, better luck next time. So, my question is, what does he think he's censoring?

Yeah. The good, the fine part. With the tiny scissor box. If you showed me that nothing yeah watch my face i don't feel well is that all funny to me we have to put a worst of all we cannot show that like we will like that was seven years ago youtube YouTube. Different rules now. We will get smited off the platform.

But we should also put a warning for people that we're going to discuss. What was his plan? The sight of it. It seemed like he was very matter of fact. Like, oh, this is just what's happening, I suppose. Yeah. So I failed the challenge. But I did give it my full heart.

My full heart. My full mind. What rocks is like, that is uh that's art like that that's actually genuinely more vibe like valuable than a lot of museum displays that's like unique that will live forever the tragedy of the like the apocalypse is going to be that we lose that yeah there's no way of archiving it there's's no film reel. I love it, man. I'm gonna, I wanna, I wanna pull some, I wanna pull some comments.

LA Beast, Big Candy. Is he still kicking? Is he still making content? Yeah, he still got, he still has new stuff. He died actually. He'll do random stuff like, look for, he had like a metal detector. He'll go to the beach and look for it's all the same

watching him up on the gummy bear was legitimately the funniest thing I've ever seen yeah the eye roll can I see that eye roll 1626 I I

he's looking around like who's doing this to me gross dude oh brother man we can get him on the pod but y'all gotta get lab's and please have me back if you get you're just watching through the window yeah recreating the youtube experience holding the gummy bear i don't want to come in i don't want to come in i don't want to come in you have popcorn yeah oh my god the land of hell i gotta go to the hospital that's his quote i bet his i guess his username has probably got a big kick since mr beast's work oh see them for you he's he has videos where he like eats cactuses i saw and he drank all those eggs that was one that was my god 50 raw eggs

i guess eventually you do run out of stuff that can kill you he is still putting up respectable numbers for how long he has been one how long he's been on the platform. Two, the stuff that he seems to subject his body to every week. Yeah. This is insane. Wow. Also, he kind of fills my algorithm mind because he played offensive line at Drexel or something. Oh, let's go. Dude, I applied there. Colgate. he played offensive line at at uh drexel or something oh let's go did i i uh colgate oh he played offensive line so i'm like yeah man he's like a big athletic guy yeah yeah

you played basketball right i played basketball in college yeah yeah um you still keep up with everything like do you follow nba the college that i went to hell no oh yeah no i don't want people with the mba yeah yeah i i went to i went to i grew up in gainesville florida which is like where the university of florida is so my whole life was following like florida college sports which by the way there is a uh an untold documentary have you seen those on swamp kings yes yeah i watched it it's a urban meyer puff piece not it is an urban meyer puff piece but i i i uh i'm with the bias because i was like living under it the stuff that they don't include though is that everyone was mad at him when he left florida yes because i want to see the people who hated that shit i want to see the people who hated it and still went on to be

successful yeah i want yeah why didn't you interview cam newton yeah literally we have to they literally breezed over aaron hernandez like yeah they really it was if anything positive yeah that's probably the smartest movie yeah pretty good hell of a hell of a game yeah um okay so for those who don't know, there is a documentary on Netflix, Untold. The other episode that I recommend is the one on Manti Teo. Great. Great stuff. Incredible story. Wild twists and turns.

Yeah, that I don't know what it was. Well, Manti Teo was a football player who got famously catfished, which is something that probably wouldn't happen now or would not be frowned upon as it was back then when was it when was this this is 2000 and this is before we had the word catfish yeah yeah yeah it was before the mtv show yeah um it was he he just got like he he got catfish he met a long time like for the for years and he was in a relationship where he was like talking to somebody on the phone never and it was also like the technology wasn't quite there yeah it's my space it's my space day so you weren't facetiming as normal like skype was around but then like whenever they would ask

like we i think it hinges on us not having a culture where you're like used to zooming facetiming google hangout whatever we have the literacy now if someone's like oh i can't my uh my phone like my computer's being weird you're like yeah computers are weird computers are weird that was yeah literally and so so uh then it like breaks that this person is well first of all i'm like i guess we're spoiling this like decade old news i know yeah but it's like fake girlfriend dies so then he plays a game where he's like mourning the loss of his girlfriend and his grandpa or grandmother or grandfather had died the same week or something yeah and so he plays his game he he's really good in the game yeah he's incredible in the game you should do that more yeah and then and then uh i think they she calls him again after

dying or something like that to like apologize it was it was something i can't remember exactly great game yeah it was it was a time for you youngins out there listening to this yeah or watching it it was a time where people would have myspace girlfriends yeah like when we were in high school there was definitely i never had a myspace girlfriend but there were definitely girls that i talked to when i was in high school right on myspace that i never met in person right like when we meet up we got to go to the grove and make out yeah like it was easier to talk to people like right i get why like now i'm sure that's i'm sure there's a ton of people who are in full-on relationships with people that they've never seen or met right but back then

it was weird it was it was weird it was novel though and so it was but the the big thing about man to tail is that he was the victim yeah he was no no way about it and he was also the laughingstock yeah and it's wild to look back on how everybody just like made fun of this guy and it was like on snl like yeah like it became a punchline like man titan's girlfriend was like a a big punchline in the media and it was truly the story of this man who'd been emotionally manipulating yeah and lied to over years he grew up in such a strict family yeah and it was like football only football you only get to think about football you only get to do football you only get to talk about football like that's the goal that's what it is

and so he found like a little bit like a respite in this woman that he met on myspace yeah and she turned out to be fake and so damn tough stuff but like nowadays i'm pretty sure that's like so much more commonplace that people have these online relationships with people well yeah i mean it would be like a 12-hour news cycle yeah snl wouldn't even get to it yeah they'd be like we gotta fly landed on my pants pretty crazy um but yeah the the swamp kings one is like a four-parter uh but it like it is very positive but for the uh to urban meyer who was the coach of the florida gators football team from 2005 to 2010 and uh which was like prime high school years for me and uh when i was in high school it was like all anyone cared about. It was like 2006,

we were like basketball national championships. It was like 2007, 2008, it was like Billy Donovan's like Gators basketball team. Joe Cam Noah, Corey Brewer. Yeah, exactly. Al Horford. Al Horford, yeah. And so it was just like college sports were everything.

And they won two national championships in 2006 and 2008. Had a really close, like a good season in 2009. Didn't quite make it. Played like the Sugar Bowl or whatever. And then Urban Meyer, the coach, left Florida because he had had this narrative, which did make sense of like I've been going so hard I'm burned out I'm getting headaches all the time I need to take care of my my health so he leaves the college and every you know he announces his retirement and then everybody's like no please stay and then he's like okay I'm coming back and then like uh I think they played bad in 2010 or

something they had a bad season they lost yeah and of games. And then he left for real. And you would have thought he was taking time for himself and like going to go to the doctor or something, stuff that he'd been avoiding. But then like the next year, he goes to Ohio State. And then four years later or three years later, wins another national championship with Ohio State. And it's like, hey, man. Yeah. Why weren't you honest with us? He got caught with the girl at the bar yeah he was

the coach he went to the nfl coached the jacksonville jaguars to uh to extreme mediocrity and uh managed to bring in a 35 year old tim tebow for like a hot second he had to play tight in yeah yeah interesting it was a wild time i did not appreciate like the status of college football till i moved here i moved here in 2015 but i first moved to the bay and uh bay a little less like proactive about it no a little bit but then uh all of my the first friends i had were from oc and then they started educating they took me to uh uh tailgate took me through yeah at the time i was just like yeah it's just like a barbecue people just hanging out maybe watching some football i did not appreciate that it was in the parking lot yeah of the game yeah and then i

was like uh first baseball game i went to as well i'm just like what is so people like we're looking at the game like i'm not looking at the game that's a bit what the fuck are you talking about we drinking beer i'm gonna be near the game and then something cool happens and then we go ah oh i missed it do you look at the replay you gotta make sure you go to the restroom so they something happens oh man yeah and i think that like a lot of people even in the u.s in the southeast because uh where did you grow up you grew up out here i grew up here in l.a but i'm originally from mississippi okay yeah but like in the so i grew up in florida in howdy howdy and uh it was such a big deal like i didn't care about pro sports at all because college was what everybody like lived and breathed

you know um so now i'm playing catch up with i still don't have a pro football team but it's time to get you one let's take the test now's the time yeah it's get the sorting hat yeah when what uh stopped you from pursuing it full-time full-time yeah well stop me lack of talent is once you get to like that level it's like oh oh it tells you that like yeah yeah it's like i can't compete with this person like this person is just has a gift that i cannot you know i may have been good at this level in high school and then you get to college and it's like we were all good in high school we were all one of the best players on our teams in high school and now my body's hurt yeah and i truly need start

failing everybody talks about freshman 15 and stuff like that. You put on muscle, but you also put on fat because it's the first time that you've left your home. Trust me. Trust me. I have huge regrets. I think about it every day. Every time I walk into my trailer on set at Universal Studios,

I go, damn, I should have worked harder. Nothing hurts right now. You think I'm joking, but I do. I truly think about this all the time. I mean, all I had to do was this. Not basketball, but like football for sure. I could have played a much higher level. But it's not like a lot of gigs, right,

where like it would be to the exclusion of comedy. You don't get to also do that even part time, right? Like it's your entire focus. So like, yeah, ultimately that just couldn't be a part of your life. Yeah. had to also do that even part-time right like it's your entire focus so like yeah ultimately that just couldn't be a part of your life yeah i mean well i didn't i weren't doing i wasn't doing them concurrently i was it was i played freshman year and then we all got cut we had a terrible season and then uh i came back home here and i was just kind of milling around and I was like I gotta find something to do and so I said okay you know what comedy has always been like a constant in my life I was voted class clown in

high school and it's always been a thing but you know you never really think you can do it right it feels like because we only see people we don't see people's grind yeah we only see people when they're very successful you go that person's a genius i can't do what they do right but then when you start learning i read books and watch stuff and learned how people started i actually could try it yeah and i told all my friends and they were like the same friends who like voted me class clown who did all this stuff man you ain't funny you think you funny you think you kevin hart that was big kevin hart cat williams years like 2009 right right and i was like uh i'm gonna try i didn't and i didn't tell a lot of people i would just be like out of the way people man i seen you

in a long time where you been it's like i've been up at these like comedy spaces all night every night doing this thing and that's gonna be like you know catholic yeah oh you get no you don't know okay yeah yeah and uh none of them really came and saw shows and stuff like that. Nobody really knew anything. And then I started to pop up on TV every now and then. They go, hey, was that you? Yeah, that was me. Yeah.

And nobody else saw that path, right? Like how else would you find out? Or like, that's why it's like bang, bang, crossover. It's like that everyone else, you're an overnight success, right? Yeah. In there, because they only have a few touch points. Yeah, and I still haven't even gotten to that level yet.

Like I think about, a Steve Carell where they're like, man, who is this guy? And I realize he had been doing comedy for, like, 25 years. Right. And had medial success. He pops up on shows every now and then. I can't wait for that.

I can't wait to get to, like, the real big break where people go back and go, wait, that was him? Right. Because people do that now. Like, I popped up on other shows where people would say, like, that's Serm from Grand Cru on there.

I'd say, how is he? Wait a minute, what? Wait a minute. Like, I got my on other shows where people would say, that's Sherm from Grand Cru on there. I was like, how is he? Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You had other jobs before you were involved in my consumption? In my consumption, yeah. And I also like this show. That really gets them. When it's a show that they watched, but because they didn't know me when that came on,

when I was on The Good Place, people will now re-watch that episode and go, that was you. Oh, yeah. I remember that. I remember going hey yeah um wait speaking of steve carell there's an office reboot i i just saw this on the discussion board but and then we maybe talked about it for a second what's going on do we have them is it ai it's not that uncle stanley show right you guys remember that happening no uh stanley from the office did like a kickstarter to kick off his own unofficial spin oh oh and then succeeded but never did it the office starring cobble pot was his name well speaking of ai did you see okay

this is something that was like in our world but i wonder if it got to you was uh they made an ai seinfeld no it streamed 24 7 on twitch until it got it accidentally made like a or not accidentally hold on the ai made a transphobic joke and then they they banned it uh yeah like it was called nothing forever and it was it was wild because like every now and again it would like make a legitimately funny joke yeah um that's a really good george so so it streamed non-stop but it only made it to 38 minutes no no no no it streamed for like weeks and weeks this is just like a clip yeah it was crazy because like and it had like thousands of people who would just tune in and watch this AI generates Seinfeld. Like, you know, because Seinfeld is like become a template.

Yeah, it's like become templatized. So to the point where like an AI could like generate these premises and stuff and the characters are so well defined. It's like, oh, we know exactly what George is going to do. Exactly what Jerry is going to do. Oh, come on. I'm sure it's not that bad. That's crazy. The other day I was walking down the street when I saw one of those scooters headed straight for me. Seriously, what did you do?

Oh, yeah. This is the first time they – Oh, this is the first one. But anyway, it was mostly missed, but people would stick around for when something genuinely interesting happened. That's funny. Yeah, it was wild. I gotta go check that out.

It's a dark comedy. They have one currently running on SpongeBob. Whoa. Yeah, I've seen some of that. That's actually kind of cool. Do they use voice clones? Because I feel like nowadays they would use... Because the AI for voice cloning technology

has gotten really good. I like to see the SpongeBob people sing R&B songs. Right. Yeah. Like that's become a whole genre. Yeah. AI is getting scary. That's crazy.

I thought it was going to look like, because you know how they, you've seen the Family Guy. Like this is what Family Guy would look like if it was gonna look like because you know how they you've seen the family guy uh like this is what family i look like it was an 80s sitcom and it's like they're like the real people oh yeah no i haven't i haven't seen that but that's it's like those ones that really smooth yeah they're really really smooth people yeah yeah uh that is like i'm like damn how do they do that like those look like real people right oh yeah like the hyper realistic yeah yeah um well speaking of family guy we have it on our board because uh we've heard that you're a big family guy fan huge and we too have a dark sense of humor i'm actually a joker style south park twisted

i'm a broken toy i love family guy where what's your where does your history start with it uh in the beginning 1999 when it first premiered for the pre-cancellation pre-cancellation i stuck around with it uh had the dvds of course i saw y'all had the dvd i had to bring it out i had those uh i like i watched it over and over and over again i still do right it's like my busy work comfort yeah yeah i watch family guy when i'm writing scripts yeah that's cool i mean for me i think we talked about this recently like uh i used to listen to the commentary tracks on the dvds and that was my first like oh this is how the sausage is made like human beings are doing stuff it's not just like some kind of random series of events that's what i thought

the simpsons was for a long time i'm like yeah they just like have an idea and then i don't know i thought it was ai yeah i was a census guy first right and uh then when they premiere family guy king of the hill was a little bit too adult for me i'm trying to watch that again now right and i'm like the jokes are much better to me now no i i watched it in college and i was like oh how i i understand why this never hit for me because i just wasn't the right age demographic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was for grownups. I don't think I had the reference

for like Midwest Americana stuff. That makes sense. His voice didn't mean anything to me. I was like, why are they hanging around? Yeah, they're just hanging around, drinking beer and stuff. It's like, you know how weird like Midwest Suburbia can be?

I'm like, I do not at all now. Do you have your likes like um era that was like your favorite family guy era like probably the earlier stuff if you'd like that no after after the after it came back for sure oh okay yeah those first few seasons i i can't go back and watch anymore yeah um but you're not like a season 23 is when it really hits no it does it does i love the new ones okay cool i love all the new ones most of them except when they do like the rob gronkowski episode but even those will still have like a joke that i like right right which is like oh this is

not my favorite episode yeah but i have ones that i'm like not my favorite episode but right i will say since season seven eight like i will just turn on like when i'm going to sleep with the tv on i know it's bad for you hey but uh same yeah but when i am going to bed i'll just go to hulu and be like season 12 and i just started and just go okay yeah yeah like just so i know that i'm getting those jokes like and not but then sometimes i wake up and like venture brothers will be playing and i'm like oh shit i gotta turn this off i never i wasn't the deal i heard good things about venture brothers and i never got into it it like never it's funny yeah yeah or metalocalypse will start metal just all the uh adult swim shows from that era the one the the

like elite comedy guy thing to like like sometimes i feel obliged to check out shows like that yeah finally crack open uh uh through my friend ethan and his partner they love uh what's it with us like a milkshake guy oh uh aqua team yeah aqua team great show yeah yeah the i can absolutely see a younger version of myself that would like try and enjoy it yeah i can't what is going on yeah yeah i used to watch aqua teas uh yeah i loved all that stuff and my mom didn't let me watch south park but family go chill she was okay with family yeah and sometimes i would like when i got older like towards like middle school i would show her a bit and my mom would do that thing that moms do where they have kind of forbidden you to watch it but

also they know it's funny it's like and so she goes what is turn this off what is this this is stupid you know you like that joke yeah you're one of these yeah yeah yeah she knows no i'll quit it i gotta give my mom props because though she didn't let me watch south park and i honestly didn't really want to in those early days to me south park got way better as i went on right but uh she would if there was like a stand-up special or anything i think she knew how much i was a comedy nerd and how much i loved it yeah she saw me checking out books at the library and all that type of stuff she saw me always loving it yeah and so when a standard special would come out like dave chappelle's earliest specials would like were really good to me and all those ones that we'd

like get on bootleg dvd at the barber shop or something like that whatever cat williams or whatever right there is a lot of that she didn't prevent me from watching it she let me watch it she let me she let me see like Eddie Murphy Raw. Eddie Murphy Raw. I went back and I was like, oh, wow. This does not like crazy. You cannot today. No, hell no.

It just doesn't like, yeah, you have to be in the 80s. You have to cosplay. It's like watching old Looney Tunes. You're like, I need to skip this. Maybe not so much. Even Family Guy sometimes. When when I was watching as like a 12 year old, I was like, there's so many old Hollywood references and shit that I do not. They just completely went over my head. I would Google.

Oh, really? If it was something I didn't know, I would immediately Google. Yeah, yeah. You're like, okay, James Woods. What's his name? Why is he here? I literally, when I first looked up James Woods, I'm like, so he's like a teacher? Yeah.

He must be related to school. I had a little buddy, Cianci. That's what. Oh, yeah. No, I don't even know who that is today. It's a mobster. Oh, okay. Yeah.

It's how I know who Fran Drescher is. It was via Family Guy. Oh, yeah. It's like some throwaway joke. Oh, like where her head pops? Yeah. Don't feed your nanny after this. Like, wait, let me make sure I'm right about Buddy Cianci.

Was he like a, I thought he he was he's a mayor of providence i'm completely wrong that's well maybe he's both but he no it was political corruption so i think yeah oh yeah convicted felon yeah he had a lot of shit going on dude these clowns in washington okay guys give it to us give it to us. Give it to us. Oh, shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they... Two drink minimum? Two drink minimum? Alright, just give me two waters. I can't get two waters?

Yeah, yeah. Give it to us. So sweaty. Man, I'm about to get mad. Two drink minimum? I'm about to get mad. Two drink minimum? I'm about to get mad. You better give me some jokes that I'm not going to get mad at.

Where are my chicken fingers? Do you do much stage stuff? I mean, I know you do improv stage stuff. Do you ever do stand-up? No. Even with the specials being influential and stuff? Yeah. I wanted to.

I started with stand-up. And I was like, oh, I don't like this. Yeah. And then I found improv and it reminded me of sports. Having a team, having a coach. I was just like, I want to do this. This is way more fun. That's how Anastasia and I met, actually.

We did improv together in San Francisco. That's actually kind of how we met. It was the two of you doing improv in San Francisco. Then me. I was a big fan of Hamburg. Seven, eight years ago whatever and then anastasia i knew from references from handbook because you knew those guys from like the forums or something i i was on hollywood handbook when i was like a super fan that's how i know sean and haines okay and um they invited some of their nerdy

super fans on to do a bit. And we did. Yeah, he just gave me a chance. It's a hell of a swing that I took. They just heard the name Anastasia and I'm like, Hamburg? Literally the only other time you've heard that name, yeah. And even though you lived in San Francisco, it was truly like a

phenomenal swing on my part. Lock me up. I'm'm a genius i'm in trouble it's you in the movie what is this rick and morty season seven cast secret they just like announced season seven and like they like aren't saying who's oh they won't reveal who the voice is? Have you guys watched any Solar Opposites? So Solar Opposites also performed by Justin Roiland, who I've been in a coma for the last five years. Just something I haven't heard.

He obviously gone from the show, but a new season of that show did come out. And they recast him with a British guy. And there's just a joke. He's in a British guy. And there's just a joke. He's in his British accent. Yeah, it's just a joke on the show. Yeah, I did. Something happened with the science.

Yeah. Just replaced him. Okay. I mean, of all shows, like, I feel like shows that operate in that space where, like, literally anything can happen. I just don't know anybody that's like, you guys want to hear my solar opposite?

I actually have an incredible Steve order. Yeah. I like like the show and i don't even know what his name is that's uh did you ever get into american dad yeah because i was usually i think i was a big american dad guy more than i was a family guy guy at a certain point i felt i don't know why when i mean it's really good now too so the tbs version of american dad is fantastic oh wow yeah i think i have such a reverence for shows like that that can keep you know people talk talk to death about how the simpsons died at season whatever but i think that like a show that can really continue going has such well-defined structure that like entirely new writers you know like can come in and fill out that universe yeah it's cool i think okay hot

take and i know that probably some of my friends feel this way but i'm just gonna give my opposing opinion on this okay the people who say that the simpsons was only good for like the first five seasons are like the same people who say snl was only good for the first being pretentious right because when i liked it it was good and when i stopped paying attention it's bad when i had my son i couldn't watch it sucked yeah because that's why when people ask me about family guys like I don't even, those first seasons to me, like,

and I know they had good jokes back then. Right, right, right. But they even make fun of those first seasons. Right, right. They have an episode called Back to the Pilot where Stewie and Brian

get a time machine and go back to the pilot episode to like do something. And they just making fun of like, look, I watch that TV and it's not even plugged in. Like, stuff like that.

Yeah, I like that. It's like, I still like The the simpsons i don't watch it as strictly as i watch family guy like i watch family got the at midnight on hulu when it comes out or i also dvr'd uh i use youtube tv oh i i do too actually shout out not sponsored But hey Not sponsored Not sponsored Unless you want to Yeah Please Soon actually We're not doing so well Things are rough

But I watch The Simpsons Still like I'll catch it Yeah Also FX like plays it Like all day sometimes And I'll just like Turn it on I'm like

Yeah I'm still laughing at jokes Like why are people acting Like this show's not Good anymore It's still good to me Yeah I think It's just a sandbox for I mean there's a bunch

of writers on i learned that are on the simpsons right now that i really like from other stuff i i haven't watched simpsons in a couple years but i assume those episodes are strong yeah it's like they're not bad writers it's like just familiar characters my friend christine angle was there uh i don't know if she still is but she was she might still be a shout out you know christine angle if you listen to podcasts yeah yeah uh that's the only one i know oh uh mitra brothy no no brothy gupta what's mitra on i'm not sure yeah no she's on something else that i she's on big mouth yeah um there's bro team timpsons brought these on yeah oh see that again even more sold yeah and that was an episode of seven uh well carl thank you so much for joining us thanks for having me we're gonna keep the good times rolling over on patreon.com sad boys with our patreon

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