Sad Boyz - Instagram "Comedy" Has Hit A New Low

Episode Date: September 19, 2025

Jarvis and Jordan discuss crying in public and at movies, AI influencer Lil Miquela's recent antics, and an Instagram "comedian" who is against "woman propaganda", whatever that is. Go to drinkag1.com/SADBOYZ to get a FREE Frother with your first purchase of AGZ Go to https://www.Zocdoc.com/SADBOYZ to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. #sponsored ⁠⁠Sad Boyz Nightz #131 ⁠⁠100+ bonus episodes on Patreon⁠⁠ ⁠⁠✨find us everywhere✨⁠⁠ 00:00:00 Welcome to Sad Boyz! 00:05:19 Memory & Mind Palace 00:16:47 Sponsored by AGZ! 00:18:57 Moral Judgement 00:26:01 Sleep Habits 00:30:33 Sponsored By Zocdoc! 00:32:26 Crying in public 00:50:22 Dangerous Men 01:07:40 Lil Miquela 01:14:06 Woman Propaganda 01:29:27 Sad Boyz Nightz 131 🎬 CREW 🎬 Hosted by Jarvis Johnson and Jordan Adika Produced & Edited by Jacob Skoda Produced by Anastasia Vigo Thumbnail design by @yungmcskrt Outro music by @prod.typhoon & @ysoblank Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. Jordan. What hell is going on? What the hell, dude? Boys only. It's a boys only episode. There's no peeps.

Just three straight cis white men. No, and, huh? Big chilling. Yeah. Huh? Okay. Mario's here. No Anastasia.

No Anastasia. We needed a day off. Anastasia said, I'm tired of your boys' shit. I mean, we could change that they're okay saying this. It is wild. that both of them are out recovering from surgery. Yes, and it's all elective, and it's all... We're all very planned, and everyone's doing okay.

And I think I did pretty good at it. I was a little low blood sugar. You said, I kind of want to try my left hand. Give me a swing at this one. Yeah. I was using a Switch blade. Okay. I butterpoint knife in.

A Nintendo Switch. Yeah, I got distracted. I actually have ADHD, so it's hard for me to focus on the surgery. You were, you did the surgery with a straight-to-Nintendo switch game about the Marvel Superhero Blade Well, I was just popping off with Blade's Marvel, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the Daywalker. He is. He is. You and me of... Wow. If podcasting is a predominantly white sport

ally of vampires, then we... Oh, question. Important question. There's a black vampire paler. Yeah. I'd say so. He's ashy.

Yeah. He turns to ash, I guess. Oh, no. That's way more tragic than being a vampire. What the hell is up? What's up? Nothing much.

Gang, fam? We were just talking about aging and how coffee is, maybe we're coming to the end of our career. I just don't like, I'm very temperamental these days with liquid. I'm drinking a lot of it. That is the most based thing I've ever heard, and I cannot explain why.

You're so right. Yeah. In input. Input is getting frustrating. I just want to feel good all the time. I just want to feel good all the time and I'll do anything to make it to make it work. Is that bad?

Is that, am I wrong? I'll sacrifice anyone. I will kill coffee if I have to. I will fuck Mary Ann kill coffee. I will demand that members of our team get surgery. Right, and you did. Yeah, it didn't help. Yeah, it didn't help.

Yeah, didn't help. I had nothing to do with it, I guess. You, yeah, you asked for them to get the, uh, your lame surgery. You need to get your, you need to get your freaking un-basedness removed. And I realized I actually have to get the surgery. I didn't get my vaccine. Dude, I'd get a brain surgery. Yeah.

Just elective. Would you get elective cybernetic implant surgery for like, say, an eye that can zoom in 3.5 distance? I wouldn't be the first one. Like, I wouldn't be the first guy on Mars or whatever. But if it's like a thing that has been well tested, kid tested, mother approved, then maybe I'm in there. It's a panper surgery. Yeah, yeah. It's kick.

I think okay well here's the question right because and I you know it's it's pretty easy we already have the technology to make like a synthetic eye that looks like a night yeah in the case of a like would you electively surgically replace wrist and hand for I don't know hacking power or not yet not yet but it's yeah it's not even for hacking power well so here's the thing like I like my appendages. I'm into them as like I've become accustomed to them over the years. They don't always behave the way I want, but I do enjoy them. However, they're steel free. If something ever were to happen to them, technology is getting to a point. There's these like prosthetic companies that can like have the dexterity to like play piano. They can get like a prosthetic arm.

They can like help like you can play piano if you knew how to play piano before. and you can have enough dexterity to, like, control. And that's going to be, that's, like, super awesome for the future. It's, like, I want that to be perfect and I want it to be available to everyone who needs it. You know, it's like, we're not there yet, but. I am betting on cybernetic knee. That is currently the investment. Well, because you're so excited to bend the cybernetic knee to.

Dude, I can't wait. Yeah. So I can do a 20-foot jump, but I die as soon as I land. What if you get, like, airbags in your shoes and you, like, deploy airbags? I expect a gadget. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. Go-go gadget airbag.

Wait, that's way better. If I could be equipped with all the accoutreement of a robocop, except that it is, like, whoopey cushions, a big boxing glove that comes out of my forehead. None of it is elegant or cool cyber. I trip and fall off of a balcony, and I hit basketball mode, and then I just am enclosed within a giant basketball, and then I bounce and roll to say. safety into like a mall and then you bump through all the shops. Oh, right, yeah, it's like bull in a china shop. Everyone's like, no, it's the big basketball. You come at the other side and your basketball's wearing a new outfit.

Oh, brother. Dude, uh, Kauai Leonard sees me, starts dribbling me. Oh, you're tiny. It's compressed your whole body. His hands are very big. That's fair. Yeah, it's more of a forced perspective situation. Man, that would actually be so.

Now I'm thinking about it. I was obsessed with the Inspector Gadget movie and it was very bad. The movie. I watched the cartoon. But Matthew Broderick With his hat telling you know a boxing glove or whatever Right no I remember saying the commercials for it But I didn't make it to the theater

I don't think It's possible that I saw it And I my memory is so poor That it's just completely out of there I will say I mean Barack Hobb-web ridden brains I'd say that's one worth kind of just Discarding instead memorizing

Does that make you mad Because because things For getting things like movies I've seen Kind of pisses me off low key Beating Sarah Marshall Can't remember it Who? What?

Sorry. I'm bad with the names. He fails, huh? In that movie? He doesn't really bad show. Is that the pre-cursor to get him to the Greek? Oh, yeah. Oh, the double, the double Russell.

The double Russell. The double Russell. Doesn't he reprise his role as like, Russell Brand basically? He's such a talent. How is he able? He's been method acting as strange pervert. For, yeah, a while.

He does, like, so when he advertises, like, a bone necklace that protects you from magnetic waves or whatever. Coming a basketball. It, like, it tracks. It's like all in character. Yeah. Oh, I see. It's like, oh, because his characters are annoying, but I see.

I mean, forgetting stuff, I, it does get frustrating, but I think our lifestyles right now, it's not too prohibitive. Not prohibitive, but there is, like, the Will Smith, movie Hitch and I saw it in the theater and I don't have a single memory about it I think I fell asleep it wasn't my I didn't mean to it wasn't the movie's fault sometimes I just get tired our movie didn't help what about the bit where he has a big illogic reaction the only part I remember I probably was like oh that reminds me too much of my regular life I too I'm a pimp and a cool and I get laid too much and I am allergic yeah I think that's why I wanted

to watch it because I wanted to learn how to like have better game that's would be, that's why I watched Hancock. Right, I also saw that movie. Another movie that, like, I am insecure about movies that I haven't seen. About, like, Hancock? I'm so insecure that I haven't seen Hancock. No, I saw Hancock in the theater, actually. That's, like, the definition of a movie.

It was a movie that, like, really had me in the first half, I think. And then, like, again, memory is hazy. And I do believe it, like, fell off at a certain point. I feel like it had some stuff, but it, like, didn't quite land. Hancock's in the subgenre of movie that would play on the 19th most popular movie channel after 1 a.m. in England, and I would, so I've seen it like a dozen times. I better remember anything. But it does go sick. Like, it loses its fucking mind. It does. One half of the movie is just, what if a, like, kind of normally like a weird or like a lazy bum. He had powers. and he didn't know who he was. And then the second half is Charlie's the Rontentant also have the powers. And it's like, we are, in Greece, we were known as Theodora and Mayolz is on.

It's like, wait a minute. What? We will always regroup together. Does he like destroy his own family's house or something? Or is there something that happens? Blows up Jason Bateman's house from like, from farting really loud or something, you know, something funny. Yeah, I, okay, here's another thing. I really enjoyed the movie Boyhood.

Yeah. And I saw it twice. and I can't remember a single thing about it. I mean, it's a hangout movie. Yeah. There's not a lot. There's the aging. That's kind of all that happens.

I get that way about my own boyhood. Right. I don't remember. That's kind of what I'm reckoning with is that just like I don't, my memory is so bad. I kind of want to sometimes when like somebody in like the like early 20s is really like opining over something that happened in their teens or is like something that's happening right now. 20 years old i don't want to it feels like unk advice but a part of me is like it that will decay that your access to that embarrassing memory that shower memory almost like a blessing it would that's not going to stick around i mean unless it does it'll be replaced by something more recent

i was going to say i still but the thing is i still remember calling that poor girl a b word when i was in i was a freshman in college 18 years old i it was actually their birthday this week and i wish them a happy birthday and they said thank you with a smiley face and I don't think they remember the way I do no problem um I mean I think it to be fair I feel like there is that little window where things are more memorable because you know that you're becoming an adult and you're supposed to be a finished product and functional right right and so the mistakes you make seem to mean a lot more yeah like oh my god I'm failing at being an adult also the mistake depending on how you internalize mistakes which I like I'm very hard on myself

and so I internalize mistakes extra super mode and then those are easy to remember but I'll like listen to sports podcast and they'll be like I remember when I was in fifth grade and I watched this specific basketball game where this specific thing happened and I'm like I have like shapes and sounds a little bit from like the past but I don't have like specific memories like remembering where I was for like I have been doing a little bit. of um like mining of my nostalgic brain because i'll sometimes go to bed watching hugio duels and i'll go i think i remember this that's past life regression that is like what happened it's like it's almost like having a dream the degree to which i remember it like

you have a certain like deja vu but like can't remember the specifics of what's going on like uh i recently have been um i found this channel that does these really like big deep dive videos into Harry Potter universe and that was such a big part of my childhood obviously Jake it rolling sucks now as we've learned in adulthood but you know the the books or whatever were meaningful to me and I did read them and so I was interested in oh differences between the movies and the books and seeing like that like laid out or even I remember there was like some specific details like the animals that are on the crests

of like Gryffindor and Ravenclaw like Ravenclaw the animal that's on the crest well it's different in the books and the movies in the movies it's a raven and the books they're eagle well that's a cock up and I know but it's because it's more on the nose like Gryffindore it's not a griffin it's a fucking lion you know it's like another huge slip up

yeah yeah yeah Slytherin it is on the nose. It is a snake. Oh, my guys. Well, I get, that could all, I mean, that could be anything. That could be a lion slithering around. Yeah, but I'm like, what, like, I remember I was listening to this and I was talking about like inconsistencies between the books and the movies. And I'm like, in my head, I always play little trivia games to myself. I go, Eagles coming to mind, but also Raven. And then they're like, well, it's an eagle and a raven. I was like, huh, maybe I am a

genius. That's the stage where most people say Mandela effect. They just go, like, it cannot be something else. The first thing I said was right. Yeah, and it's just. a huffel? Badger. It just is called a huffle? Well, no. What's the huffle? I don't know why it's named that, but

Making a huff. Ravenclaw, I think they're all like Gryffindor, like it's all supposed to just be fake-ass words. It's like, I guess it does make, it feels right. A huff, a huffle does feel like a thing a badger would do. Well, that's the thing. I couldn't remember what

Hufflepuff was, and then I go to myself, all I remember is is lame as fuck. Hufflepuff is called Hufflepuff because the house was founded by and named after Helga Hufflepuff. Well, that doesn't fucking count. So, yeah, that's what I mean. That's in Goddra Gryffindor, you know? Oh, you can call it anything, go Smithdor. Rowena Ravenclaw.

See, these are, I have it, like, why is this in my head? But I can't fucking remember her for Hancock. I think that's really, like, that's so ever present at that period of time. Hancock isn't like high school chatter? Some of the, like, you know what it is? It's the, okay. I think it's the. that are, this is going to be very non-scientific.

This is going to be an artsy-fartsy description of something that can be described by like neural pathways and things. But to me, it's like there are all of these like locations in the map of your mind. And like I'm driving on the road of my mind. And if I go to Harry Potter Town, it's connected to all of these like things. The problem is Hancock Town, not very visited. population zero in my mind. No memories.

I've driven through it. If I've driven through it, I can't remember how to get there. And once I'm there, I might have connected memories to experiences I had maybe watching the movie. Like, I remember vaguely where I was sitting in the theater when I saw Hancock. Yeah. And if you get stimulated by something, like, if I drive past the Hancock popcorn smell store, I got like, I'm bleaching back. Charlize the Ron.

They're flying in a storm. Have I told my burger? King story. When you met the Burger King? Well, yeah, I'm the King. I woke up with the King. Oh, that's huge. Horrifying mask.

So growing up, my mom, like, had cerebral palsy, and we, like, we would often have to kind of call services that will pick you up and take you places. This is like a pre-Uber thing for people with,

like, disabilities, primarily, or older people who have trouble getting around. Like, not a taxi, an actual dedicated like a little like van type situation um could come and pick you up at your house and to go places um and if you're out and about then maybe you're using a bus but sometimes like it's just like she couldn't walk for very long distances and she didn't use a wheelchair um when we would go visit her sister my aunt we would take the greyhound bus and the greyhound bus we would just take it we were taking it from gainsville to clear water there was like maybe one stop

the way. I don't actually know how long that bus ride is. And allegedly we took a Greyhound bus from Gainesville to Los Angeles once when I was like maybe four or five years old. And... It's a lengthy? It's like three days. I think in terms of like how many stops and stuff

you had. Like that's what I recall. The Greyhound bus have like, are you sleep in it? Yeah. Oh, right. Okay. Like, but you have rest stops. Oh, okay. And so, and so one of the rest stops for this Florida one, because I think it was only one, that I recall

they would always stop at Burger King and the smell of Burger King is so recognizable to me that we were walking in Old City in Barcelona and I smelled Burger King and I said out loud I smell Burger King

and then people are like, huh? And then lo and behold a few blocks later there's a Burger King. That's the that's maybe one olfactory memory I've got But otherwise, oh, sorry, what's that, Jacob?

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And then it's a floor of the human brain that unfortunately we also hold on to the thing that generated it. Like, we cook the meal and we keep all the scraps. Like, you don't need these anymore. They're going bad. just keep the calories that was the good part yeah but the nice tradeoff of that is you do also get what are non-practical but warm nostalgic memories not ones that are for anything but like a lot of the time the one thing i don't like about the like current structure of my life or like the one thing that i miss i guess from a previous era is the quantity of memories generated by having

a nine to five. By going in, I remember more from my three years at Patreon than I do from my week to week years of doing this. Yeah, I know what you mean. I remember this room. Yeah. But the amount of time in between, including like, shitty day, like really, like shitty. Oh my God, people are being, like, we hired this new person I'm really struggling with

or something. It's just clear and distinct. and that honestly is like all of college for me maybe I know it's partially mental health oriented and like the way that we're pre-engineered right but I do not have access to more than like two hours of memories from age one to 20 like I just know that I know when people talk about high school that shit boggles my I could not name more than two teachers from birth to and college. But I'm also, like, genuinely quite stupid in some ways.

My very really doesn't work in some ways. I know that's abnormal, but when, dude, I don't know. There's something sour to me about when people are complaining about teachers they had at, like, middle school. And they're like, yeah, they didn't like me. They gave me bad grades. I'm like, probably, okay. This needs to be excised.

This needs to be manually recycled. I get it, though, because it's like at that point in time, it has a disproportionate impact on your on your life and so the mind share that some of those experiences have carry more weight because it's like the relative impact on you goes down over time but that's where you got a re-review it's like yeah it's like the one that got away was my when I was six years old the girl I was in love with that hey she's the one that got away I remember it's like you never spoke to you I remember those um no that's that's totally I don't even remember where my school was well that was easy for me because it was like walking distance from my house

quite literally just down the sidewalk uh like uh my my home that i grew up in uh you like there's like a big thoroughfare right at the end of the like residential road cross the street there's a there's a a like a gas station and then straight down the sidewalk first stop about half mile down maybe is my elementary school and then another half mile down is my high school javas academy right yeah javis academy but then my middle school i can only vaguely tell you where it's located in in gainsville florida yeah that seems uh because i had to take a bus so and i didn't drive until i got to l a so i'm like just bad at geography in that regard that's well that's another like i have come to peace with it more or less now but i am dumber than i was like a couple of years ago even

in a, like, pretty... In like an irreparable way. Like, I just, I can't access, like, the... I was never a grit and grind kind of guy, but I was a, like, if this thing needs to get done, I'll lock in and I'll get it done. And now, no, I'll just... I'll just die.

Like, if the thing is, if it's, like, a little too much, I'll just be like, yeah, whatever, I'll go moldy. But that is... Until that is a problem, live and let live, I haven't found the solution yet. If there's one thing, I, do dwell on that I really need to

like stop dwelling on it is resenting smug people because ultimately it doesn't and like hypocrites are like these things

that don't actually matter oh right they can be however they want I do not remember what this like person was smug about but I remember the sense and I don't remember their name I just remember they're like

oh you think you're so much Oh, I mean, I'm... And they might have been. I'm with you. No, I actually, I really hate how much I dislike hypocrites and hypocrisy in general, but it like doesn't mean anything as a society. Like, no one actually gives a shit if you're a hypocrite. But for me, for my own intellectual, like, or my own moral purity of the mind and how I, like,

want to be with myself I think that it's like I project my own moral code onto societal interactions yeah I feel like we are not comfortable selfishly just not comfortable knowing who we are

in like a it's like if I'm not doing the thing I don't know it's like the thing that I'm putting out is the thing that I am I can't like pretend that I have a strong moral compass if I'm just not doing the things right right I will act in accordance with my morals which is shifting you know or my my understanding of that it's like changes over time but

like which the danger of anti flip-flop mind to my own detriment though it's like there are certainly things that would have like gotten me ahead in life if I were willing to compromise on some of those things oh morals are always to detriment yeah it's like it's a it's only a principle when it gets tested Yeah, exactly. I have a principle of like, yep, if I was being tortured and I had to give up information about somebody, I wouldn't do it. That means nothing until I get tortured. Yeah.

I'm just saying it. Oh, yeah. It's a thing where, like, if someone was instigating a fight with me, I know that it's not a good idea to fight. Like, I know what I'm supposed to do, and I'll do the right thing. But I am, uh, it's like frustrating inside to like let it go. Kind of like, we talked about this on Sadboy's nights when the, uh, the guy uh the dishonorable ronan dishonorable ronanin came and uh you the honorable samurai

accosted us and then we uh had a verbal altercation let's say he was like a uh dishonorable ronin if a ronan didn't know how to use a sword just a guy that but no spoilies that exists on uh sad boys nights uh maybe two weeks ago that's on something but if you fancy no if you fancy no pressure uh but anyway how are you um i'm good i've been trying. I've got that frustrating loop right now where I'm trying very hard to sleep better. I like that. And it is working in direct

opposition. I am sleeping worse than ever. I'm trying. Is it you got to take a few steps back to think a step forward? Yes. Yeah. I think I've weirdly acclimatized to a lifetime of bad sleep, I guess, was its own rhythm. And it's not the staying up late. That can happen from time to time. It's literally the feverish quality of it whenever I sleep.

and I think going to bed at a reasonable time, even just like midnight, 1 a.m., whatever, my body is not tired enough or like my breath, something's off. And so unfortunately, I'm brute forcing early mornings right now. Right. I get that. I got to say, dude, it feels a little bit. It's like I've escaped the cycle of samsara. I'm like, I'm out of reality. Breaking containment.

When you're really, it's really early in the morning, you aren't smarter for it because you barely, slept, but everyone's asleep. Yeah. It feels like I'm in like a skin suit. I'm an alien man. I used to love that so much when I was awake and no one else was. Feels cool. Because I was like, I'm cheating.

Dude, it's like being on the East Coast. But I would like to get there one day. I am also on the journey for better sleep. This sounds like a lead-in to a brand deal. But I did just try for the first time, and I'm not going to name any product names. But I did try an adhesive nose trip recently. Oh, cool. So, like, the ones you put over the bridge of your nose.

And the adhesive is supposed to, like, widen your nasal pathway. And I do notice it widening my nasal pathway and making it easier to breathe. The next step would be to try the mouth tape. And then pink ploppy handcuffs to the corner of the bed. Hello. So, yeah, I can't take it off in the middle of the night by accident. Of course, of course. Uh, full body binding, Gibson.

I have to get, I have to like do research to make sure that I don't just die. Like, being a rising grind influencer who gets killed by that like, well, just imagine like they like, uh, B.B discovers my body. I thought, poor thing. All right. She's traumatized. One final snort. The cops, the cops come in and they go, of course he couldn't breathe. His mouth was fucking taped shut. Two cops die from laughing at you too hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They try to love him. Because, um, because on the tape. it says man tape for men. Yeah. He died as he lived. He was in his pants and dying.

Yeah, peeing his pants and shitting his pants. Local influencer, thankfully killed by products. Well, that's the thing. It's like, I don't think I get, I hopefully get a respectful obit. Like, they don't, like, say how it happened, how it went down. I think I'm going to crush the eulogy and I have written it. Okay. It's like a mad lips type thing.

I can move some of the keywords around. like cause of death. Yeah, like my friend Javis was crushed by Pepsi sign. True. I did. Yeah, that did happen.

Um, electrocuted by Pepsi sign that fell into his bathtub. Dude, you gotta get away from these signs. You gotta get away from these signs. Look out. Because I also have a CPAP machine that I got when I did my sleep study. And that's the old.

And that's the tradition. It like blasts the air into you. But I can't. Is that like a, it's like a whole. It depends on the. type of mask but yeah like usually it's like covers both i was raising the darkness type shit yeah it your bane yeah yeah so i just could not get used to it i'm tossing and turning and i'm like i can't

have darth vader talking to me at the same time i don't like sleep on like your side right it's yeah you have to like have it really tight in order for that to work and i only had like positional sleep apnea where like if i'm sleeping on my back is like when i have it and part of the reason is because When you sleep on your back, like your jaw kind of like can go backward into. And I remember there being some concerns about that when I got braces because they were like, oh, we might have to do jaw surgery. And I was like, I'm sorry. What?

Do teeth surgery is what I asked for. Yeah. I was like, no thank you, I think. And then they were like, actually, I have another idea. And it doesn't involve that. And I was like, thank you. Let's start with those ones. Yeah, let's start with that, actually.

Let's not process of elimination down from turning my head at 180 degrees around. Yeah, what do you mean, bro? This episode of Sat Boys is sponsored by ZogDoc. Guys, it's 2025. The days of going to the doctor only for emergencies, those are behind us. So, like, if I'm in pain, like, for six months, I'm just trying to kind of walk it off, that no need to. Go to the doctor.

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Please. But I'm also curious, Jacob. I don't know if you're the kind of person that this happens to or not. Yesterday I had a little, for the first time, as long as I can remember, a little public cry. Oh, okay. It wasn't like heavily weeping. It was like a, um, watching a home video of me, like my, my now dead wife is like doing dishes and she's going, oh, stop filming me.

You know, like one of those, me, memories of me and my dead wife with like a, a, flowing laundry and stuff, but except it was, I never had a wife, she wouldn't be that I would have defended her with karate. I had a little public cry single tier or two. I'm in a cafe. Okay. Semi busy, but it's very small. The whole thing is about the size of this room and then half, you know, a third of that is

the kitchen. So it's maybe 20 people in there. It's a little dense. Everyone's in there. Everyone's on their phones these days, you know what I mean? I was on my laptop. Tell me about it. But I had a little shed a maybe, let's call it, half a shot glass, you know, of some little tears.

Okay. That is an amount of hearing. You know, but with a gradual five-minute leakage. No projectile cartoon ones. Right, right, right, right. And no, like, it was just a, like, stoic moment, you know. I can't be my son. I'm a man.

I can't feel things. How are you guys? A, does this happen or has at any point in they can remember? In B, one in B. do you go for the wipe do you try and hide the wipe shirt on the face had no napkins to hand I do the hand wipe

the one of these or even like this and yes I mean I when we went to see Hamilton I cried and and if for anybody who's like you cried at Hamilton get some fucking whimsy in your life you hardened hardened person

you you Aaron Burr style guy I mean I was moved by the performances, okay? Wait, oh, we stand for stuff and we're not going to fall for stuff. Is that so bad? If you don't stand for anything, what do you fall for? What's the deal?

What do you fall for? 1700 Seinfeld? If you stand for nothing, what do you fall for? You ever just shoot your gun in the air and your son's killed? Oh, the KKK is the same as the Free Palestine movement.

Yeah, got his mic. Don't ask me to explain because I can't. Terry, Jerry, no, no. Don't look into how. problematic some of my episodes of my show are. Where is my 17 year old girlfriend? Remember the one about the Chinese lady that wasn't Chinese?

Okay, let's pull back a little bit. Go back to the gig again. Whoa, you used to be able to joke about anything. Yeah, that's true. Like, seat belts and other incredible incisive thoughts from Jerry Seinfeld. Don't ask him why a prom date. Please. I'm 35. Actual things that he did, by the way, and said, and then... You had a...

Oh, okay. And I was like... I was like, fuck at all in it, dude. I... I love. having emotions it's good to feel you're in the cut it's good to feel it's good to cry let it happen i think especially a live performance because it's like so vivid yeah and that and there's also i know this is obviously the case in recorded media as well but like literally you're seeing like i don't know why i got this got into my head at one point i like while at the show because i was like blown away by how much fun i was having because i was uh previously a contrarian well that's the thing it's like open your heart i would open your heart i would open your heart you

and you'll be free. At the time, I would have fell for anything because I didn't stand ready. Yeah, yeah, right, right. I, and I punched the Bursa. I was watching the show, and at one point it just struck me like, oh, these are all, everyone on this stage right now is decades of experiences coming together. Yeah.

Like, hundreds of thousands of collective trips to the bathroom, of brushing teeth, of meals had, of jogs run, and like standing on a stage right now and, like, creating a thing that can only be. just because of all those people, and that caught me, and then I, I shed a, you know, I'm not a fucking baby. I'm not going to cry like, yeah, I was like shedding you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get out. I was pumping out of, right, right, of course.

Everyone was like, Jordan, yes. Everyone was clapping at your incredible show of emotion, but also restraint. They were like, he's so good at lifting, he's crying. But I don't, I think being cynical that it is a little bit of a bummer. Well, also, it's like, you can criticize Hamilton on its, like, political merits, but when I'm experiencing the suspending the suspension of disbelief of a performance of a show when you're sharing you know you're in it it's almost like um it's like when you get hit by a blue shell in mario cart and you're like ah fuck the reason you feel something is because you're zoomed in right and it doesn't like being able to be zoomed in

in like present i think is like a beautiful thing and it's also something that i struggle with as an ADHD haver is like being present with something and music is something that like allows me to be like present and in the moment and also like I'm not just thinking about that performance I am doing a little bit of thinking about the themes and the the the things I think about in my own life when I think about you know who lives who dies who tells your story that type of thing having seen it now I can't be honest with you a lot I feel like a lot of the cynicism about the text of Hamilton is a little disingenuine because like the well it's propaganda of a political history of America.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, slow down. It's way more like mythology than that. It's like, this story does not have to be about that period of time. It may as well be Orpheus. It may as well be Hades Town. Yeah, we saw Hades Town the same week. I'm like, you know, tonally, like, sensationally,

they kind of feel the same to me because I also, by the way, I didn't know. None of this stuff was reinforcing any kind of historical propaganda. I'd take it in because I never learned it in the first place. but like none of none of the things are i think it is a little silly to project like just text just the top line of a story to be its only purpose and it's only framing it smacks a little bit of i can't watch movies where someone does something bad because it's promoting darth veda blew up alder i'm not going to watch this movie If you support him? Or it's like what you like this thing that's a historical fiction. And it's like, well, didn't you know that history is bad actually? And I was like, yeah, no, for sure.

What are you kidding? But there's also human stories inside of every little, you know, every little chunk of history. Those are not Hamilton. That's Slim My Well, yeah, yeah. He's not here. Well, that's the thing. He's not involved in the production at all, actually. He's busy being bones.

But I do think it's kind of like one of those, it's like allowed me to live out for a sec. But that's like, level one is. like Hamilton Hamilton is an incredible musical like level 50 is like I mean there's so many other musicals out there you know have you seen this that the other thing

really Hamilton's baby stuff and then like level 100 is okay Hamilton's a really good musical pretty good time yeah but you're a public weep weper I'll like get a little choked up at movies but I'm not like often like really crying at movies

unless it's like very specific circumstances in like a moment of because I get choked a movie just at moments of like high anything and it does necessarily have to be sad anything where like there's a big group of people coming together to save the rec center

yeah when I'm yeah I think it's worth noting that the ability of art to connect to life is an important aspect of it And when I'm crying at the end of Hamilton, I'm crying about my dead mom. And I'm not simply crying about the fucking musical. And I think if people like can't like, and so I, there's nuance to it. And I'm not just saying, oh my God, Eliza, I can't believe she has to go on without.

Thank God she started the first private orphanage. I know. It's the magic trick of fiction is to resonate with something real. The thing that's impressive about Jaws is it made people scared of a shark that doesn't exist. Yeah, it's like when I hear, and it's like I might, I could start crying now and I won't. But it's like, when my time is up, have I done enough? Will they tell my story? I just hope that I see you again.

It's only a matter of time. I think about my mother who passed away when I was very young. And I think about what I have done in my life. And I think about whether or not, you know, like, will she be proud of me and stuff like that? And I will cry if I continue talking about it. But it's like, that's what it connects to to me. And so like when I. And it's not like, and that is the content of it.

It's not a way of reading it. So it's why I, my instinct when somebody goes, you cry to Hamilton is it go, you're fucking stupid. Or like, beat your ass. I'm just kidding. Or you're missing like some, some context. It's okay to be, I don't know, a little naive. Like maybe you've lived the life where nothing's been that kind of resonant or it has and you haven't kind of thought back to it in that way. That's okay if the worst experience of your life was your parents getting divorced.

No, and I would never, because of the relativistic nature of our own like emotions and, and like the men and max of the way that neurotransmitters can like exist in our body and how they create physiological responses someone experiencing the divorce in their in their 20s might be like the example of them reaching that like you know peak of whatever like emotional strenuousness yeah exactly so it's like i i actually won't shame that but it's like why i i can't get too I don't know, when people dunk on someone for like showing emotion about something. It's always a reflection of... It's always a reflection, yeah. And I will dunk on people for that because it, I guess it's like

it showcases a lack of consideration and imagination to say like, well, I may, what I don't like is people framing the divorce of the parents when they were 20 as the worst thing that can happen. Well, yeah, it's like it's about, it's about having, reading the room, having some, some context. Hopefully, even though you have never experienced anything worse than this, you could acknowledge that, you know, other people have.

But then also that it's not like a competition. It's not like the, I was about to say the Payne Olympics, not the different thing. It also is not that. It's also not that. And you shouldn't look it up. Don't look it up. But it's also not a competition of trauma Olympics or whatever. who can have had the worst experience.

It's actually kind of the inverse of that a little. Because like the thing I was having a little cry about was I was, actually, I wanted to mention this specifically because I did actually want to give them a shout out in, because I would have liked to have heard about this at the time. There was a care company that we started working with like, it's been like two years of trying to get, a little under two years of trying to get my mom out of like a rotation of hospital and care facilities because she was deemed non-capable.

So we were like, we will take care of it. Just me and my aunt, that's okay. And they were just like, no, you know, we can't do that. So-and-so, bureaucracy, bureaucracy. I'm like, yeah, but none of these facilities are giving over what she wants. She's constantly escaping and like, oh, she's too independently minded for this, but she isn't capable of living independently, blah, blah, blah. And, you know, the deterioration wasn't there yet, but it was starting to happen.

And we're like, she doesn't have a diagnosis yet. We don't know what's wrong. That goes on for like a year. And then this company, based out of the Midlands, specifically in Cheltenham, but I think they do surrounding areas called, prosperity care if the any if you have any family members in a similar scenario where you're looking for like subsidized help 24 hour care potentially 24 hour care with council support we didn't have to uh I paid some money for later things we needed but at the base level we didn't

have to and they turned up out of nowhere it's got like a phone call from them I don't even know where it came from good old Colin gave me a gave me a ring and they like saved us I when I was her full-time care it was with a rotation of staff that would come in 24 hours I spoke to Colin recently and I'd heard that they like potentially wanted to talk about my mom in like retrospect and be like hey here's someone that we worked with you know like a case study in case because she was a very unique case right it was like hey big big big jay big joy in the sky love you not an easy client for certainly I think by by all accounts about as difficult as it gets, purely because of so independent.

Like, you cannot use the other, please stop putting it on. You can't, you can't take the independence out of the purse. It's like so innate to her. Which is, you know, it's a blessing and a curse thing. But they were, they were great with it. And I was like, oh, yeah, totally. I'll give you total permission for that. And they were like, could you register, like, maybe just a little power of summary.

So we're not saying anything you don't want to say. Absolutely. I put it off and I put it off and I start getting anxious about it. I'm like, I just don't know what to write, blah, blah, blah. And I genuinely Generally I don't talk about it much Because I think I'm fine with it

Sure The degree thing To whatever degree you can Yeah The things that trigger Like you're talking about Is never actually The top level of it

Yeah It's never I'm not crying right now And I'm talking about The thing that should Make me cry Right I can talk about the funeral

Doesn't make me cry What makes me cry Is that like that first bit under the iceberg like when we went to Hamilton that little bit that caught me was like stagnation it was losing time it was like I was it was more maybe like even like some of the early Aaron Burr stuff was getting to me because I'm just like yeah I like those I lost those years to like what am I doing like where is this going I'm just here I'm just helping but I'm not doing I'm not moving forward just getting worse and then that court

and then yesterday I was like writing this little paragraph in the CAF and I was completely fine and then I got to a line about one thing that was really nice is with their support I was able to go back home to the US and I was allowed to get back to doing my job and then that got me it was not it was like the third ripple of thing that happened yeah yeah And I think that that, like, you don't get ready for that. There's like a thousand platitudes about like, hey, you know, the process of guilt, the five stages, the blah, blah, blah. And they never talk about the sixth stage,

which is kind of where you, it's a little after acceptance, where you'll dip in and go like, oh, the smell of the baguette at the store next to her house. It's the fact that it never ends, like the stages of grief kind of, I mean, I haven't read the full text on this or anything. It's acceptance, not cure, right? Right, because it's just like the fact that things can still, like, affect you like decades away from a traumatic event, which is where maybe we, I will give credit to that my parents got divorced at 20 because it, it did feel bad, you know, I'm not going to cut that

and then maybe you think like, oh, I wish we could have those Thanksgiving as we used to have. That's like a resonant real, you know. Yeah. And it's also, yeah, there's just so many things that, you know, we present as the ideal in terms of family, in terms of relationships and stuff. And so when you're constantly inundated with that stuff and then reflect it back to your own experience and maybe you don't have that experience or it makes you feel like it reminds you of loss or whatever that you've had in your life like I totally understand like people feeling away about it I just was very sweet like right after we saw the show you were talking about it and I thought it was like it's almost like uh to look in the

wound you have to open the stitches a little bit yeah like we've talked about it or like the things that resonate with you and that show but the way we talked about it right after the show was like a little more like it's almost like you remembered a little and i i don't know i thought that was very sweet that was a very fun memory was going to see that show yeah i just think that you know shout out to art it's like it doesn't it doesn't like just different things will grab you in different ways and like opening yourself to the experience allows you to have like a very beautiful response to it um i always think back to when we went to see end game because we went on like one of the opening nights or something that's a memory i don't have well i mean like vaguely but it's like a

I don't remember anything about the movie and I don't remember any of that. The thing, I have a really one very funny movie. Were we sitting really close? We were really close. Why do I remember where I'm sitting in the theater and nothing else? Well, it was us and then all of our most humblery friends

in a row. Lauren was there, Brickett was there. It was like our A.03 style homies. Yeah. And we, when this one got about 2019, I think it was before I left. Right. And so I remember we were all watching it. And the bit I remember,

so vividly is that one ad came on and it was like the only ad without white people in it and we were sat on either ends of our friends

and we turned and we went like this one's for us right and we laughed at that and then the another one came on and it was like a trailer for a Disney movie and we both honestly

led back and went and this one's for them I remember that killing just like the instinct to both say it and then hilarious I think Captain America's in the movie

true that is he's a hammer he's in there he gets old or something we see him old I was too young something like that I don't think I will I'm old I'm old as shit all right we we went a little long uh sorry see ya wrap it up you guys love this speaking of dying in my sleep to man tape on my mouth that makes me think of um something that dangerous men do uh I think Haley our researcher found this and presented it in such a funny way. So I kind of just want to watch this Instagram reel about dangerous men and just see how it feels.

It's just like master chief. This goes really, look out. Hey, dude, hold on. He's got a gun and stuff. It's really dangerous. I'm a dangerous man. Are you? He looks exactly like the AI version of Jesus from the, that like Catholic AI.

He also looks like that, um, that dude, uh, can't remember his name, but we worked with the dude who looked like this. Oh, my God. Dude, good poll. Fuck. That's the creatine right there. Yeah. That was the creatine kicking it.

Shout out to that guy. That guy ruled. All of the tall, fun, handsome men were really... So many tall, handsome men. We were the dangerous men. We were the dangerous ones, yeah. Actually, I'm just saying that until I find out what it is. Right.

He's like, I love killing kids. Yeah, no, I mean, the thumbnail is a guy that says, my jabs will get you off of pharmaceuticals, which does give me a lot of paws. I don't want any, unless you're talking about punching me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like such a good boxer, dude.

He'll get me, well, kill me. So I guess I'll be off pharmaceuticals. Terrence Crawford or whatever. He looks tiny. I'm just going to say, the tall grass looks like regular-ass grass. You find him in a Pokemon. This is a Pokemon hiding in the tall grass.

Pidlip-l-l-l-l-l-pill-pul-pill-pul-pul-pil. Hey. I'm tiny Stephen, Tray. He fights with a, like, hip-on-chan and hip-moly. That's the same item. I'm a dangerous man. My jobs will get you off of pharmaceuticals. Do we know when this was posted?

17 weeks ago, okay. I mean, that's dangerous. I was like, in May, this meme was already, this meme format was already very old. So one thing I will note about this before we continue to watch is that it's not satire because everyone in this is in the wellness space for pay. he's dangerous is my one thing is this track

and is this is like a meme format that was going around or something well this is I'm a blank of course I do blah blah blah blah do you remember that from a thousand years ago I'm Costco guys yeah we're the Costco guys we're dangerous man of course I'm murdered people I did before we started

the show listened to Ariana Grande's dangerous woman she's so talented it's about the Costco guys yeah but dangerous man yes my kids will know how to fast and hunt before they knew algebra Okay, that guy does look like someone we went to work with. Oh, it's a different guy. His face was covered by his chi-blocker.

Yeah, he reveals that he's got a different face. He was doing a substitution. I was like, this looks like, yeah, he turns into a stump. This looks like in movies where they have a different actor play. Oh, yeah. And then like the glitch, the face swam glitched for a second. And you say, yeah, it's like if you go slow motion on the forward role in like a John Wu movie, you're like, that's not Chow Yard Fett.

Also, wait, let's, let's, so my kids will know how to fast and hunt before they know algebra. I don't know if kids should fast. I'm not a nutritionist, I don't. But also, you learn algebra when you're like 12. I mean, I- So I mean, that doesn't seem that crazy to me. So as a kid, I've not eaten. Yeah.

I've skipped lunch, right? And also, I've gone fast. Oh, dude, I'm by show speed. Gotta go fast. Man, I bought a javelin on Craigslist to shoot down the lines in the sky. I'm a dangerous- lines in the oh so is that a um uh that's a kim trails reference like a little conspiracy theory what is the is does he literally mean a javelin i do think he literally means he bought a javelin on

craigless i'm a dangerous man you shouldn't leave your drink alone next to me i'm a dangerous man let's go to a second location yeah seriously not one of them has a shirt on and they all have the same these are three distinct men that's a different guy who were carbon copies of one I thought he was the first guy. No. That's, I don't think so. What the hell is going on?

No, it is a different guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This guy's like a blend of the other two. Yeah. Well, by the way, that was incredible. Like, did they wait until there was a plane flying over? Or if it's like, very notably. Or is it just a cut?

Or is it just a cut? That's a difference guy. Yeah. Oh, it was. It was just a cut. Trail guys. Yeah. Oh, this guy's got a crazy posture.

He's dead. This is, this is, wait, hold on, go to the other. That's me trying to summon friends into my living room. Hey. I'm doing a little dance that hopefully gets my friends to come over. Dangerous man. What the? I don't release to a screen.

I pull that life force up and transmuted into creativity and longevity. Oh, he's a no-fab guy. Hold on. Yeah, wait, I don't release into a stream. A stream. A stream, that's like Kia from Severus. Sorry, yeah. I was going to say, like, share to make men dangerous again.

So what? Oh, it's a, it's a moral judgment. Right. These are bad things. I don't release to a screen. I pull that life force up. That's the semen retention thing, right? Life force up.

And transmute creativity and longevity. So it is like about semen. Yes. He's saying he doesn't jerk off to porn. Oh. He keeps it inside of him so that it goes back up and turns into creativity and longevity. Oh, that's, to where to where? Someone call from the balls.

Someone call a doctor. If it goes back up, what did it come from? Get that checked out. This is like that girl that said she fixed her like diseases with her mind. Oh, that's true. It is interesting that no fat can like exist amongst any demographic,

but it has to be rebranded. It's like, okay, I'm religious and abstinent. Okay, I am a Reddit porn addict. L. C, I am a holistic wellness guy. But the result is always not jacking off. I don't like how reactive any addiction, like, solution feels. Yeah. Because it feels like it's always replacing one addiction with another.

Yeah. It's like I got so addicted to porn, but now I'm addicted to carrots and thinking. And fearing planes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I don't, like, that's, I don't think you made it better. As much as you feel that you've made it better, I mean, maybe you have. I can't pay it with a brabrobro.

Certainly, like, if this is a thing that you feel brings more value to your life than porn, good trade, right? Like, trade meme, I give you no porn, you make carrot smoothie. But... You can be creativity. Yeah, the longevity, I guess, is the life force. Most of what they say is counter to modern wisdom and, like, what doctors say. Which I think is part of the appeal.

this. Because it's agency, right? It's like, I'm not doing the normal thing. I'm a dangerous man. I co-opped old science from other cultures. Yeah, it's not like I'm a dangerous man. There's old wisdom from other cultures. I take iron supplements. I get B12 shots. I wake at the same time every morning. It's always something way less. I take naps. It's more romantic and crazy, you know. Remember when Drake had that ad lib in his lyric, or I don't even know if it's out of it. He goes, I don't take naps. It's just a random one. I hope he's doing it right. Yeah. He's so sleeping. It's such a funny thing to say. I'm busy DMing. I don't know if, I think. I think. maybe what gets my little goat a little bit about this stuff is that um what really pisses off my

life force i don't like when it go i feel like we end up talking about a lot because it happens constantly but when it comes full circle back to moral judgment always where it's never like like sick dude that's great the it's like they almost land the plane and then they go like and you are a bad person for not doing it it does feel like hashtag performative male because they're either shirtless or wearing flesh-colored clothes. What's that about? What's up with the the most ripped guy wore a t-shirt?

Come on, buddy. Come on, buddy. Get to work. Be dangerous. It's dangerous to wear cotton touching my buddy. Where do they live? They live in the same place.

The problem is they probably live in a commune in like Thailand or something. That makes sense. That's, I will say, if a white guy moves to Thailand could be a dangerous man. Got some questions, yeah. Is that what Elon said about that? like very good dude that was trying to save the guy who saved saved the diver that saved kids dude

chess is a solved game no fog of war no fog of war is so fucking funny dude no fuck of war no inventory management no no slow rolling who's maze yoga oh there were four guys right i i cannot tell if there were 50 or one guy bioculture retreats holistic health retreats oh is that where the location is maybe inside the eye oh Oh, it's Guatemala. Joe Jav is that one, because that's interesting. I think that kind of says a lot. It's a meme of a bus getting hit by a train.

Jungle Adventure Retreat in the Sacred Volcanic. Oh, shut the fuck off. That is the train destroying the Depression bus, but I think it's important to note that depression is in quotes. Yeah. As in it isn't real. It's the thing where people say depression isn't real. It's actually the demons I need to actually.

exercise from your body or whatever. I'm just like, what? It's like, except for substitute. It's the crazy thing to me is there's like a mad lib of these strategies. Yeah. Of, of like, okay, if, if I'm in the wellness space, then I'm saying depression and quotes and then my retreat saves you. If I'm in the megachurch space, I'm saying depression and then my, my God will heal all.

It's actually sin. Or, or, you know, you've got a prosperity gospel. You've got to send me like $100 and that will help save it. Not to be like a pedant or whatever. whatever, but with the quotes around depression, then if that doesn't exist, which is the prognosis, right, then what's the train for? Why do I need to go to this retreat if I wasn't depressed? Wait a second. So we did just like judge a book by its cover and were exactly correct. Wild Story, we bought this retreat venue in Guatemala. We judged the book by its front cover

and the front cover was like this guy we actually did judge it by the um about the author yeah that's true we judged it by the back of the book oh boy magic is real is that a g-call screen shot or volcanic islands that will blast you right open

what does that even mean life force and I do love that they like don't believe in anything except for the same Instagram growth hacks and drop retreat if you want to join one of our retreat yes dude see that's a that's religion no that's what I believe in I believe in growth hacking.

You'd have to pry us away from this magical land. Why would I do that? That's so crazy, dude. Just imagine the like native Guatemalans there who are like, what? These fucking crackers. You guys are so annoying. Magical land.

This is my fucking home, bro. It's not your magical paradise. Walking into my like, my like corner store and then like picking up what are completely, like a normal cotton of milk and being like, wow, the way these people live you know they drink raw milk um wait hold on if you want to co-host with us you better be cool with Guatemala okay but fuck they get to my way uh or sorry about your luck are they just saying sorry brother you got to be cool with Guatemala or else you're not cool with us I'm still wait I'm still confused because like what's the thing that this is to battle if depression doesn't

exist um what is with healers flooding in to rent our place wait a second it's a fucking time share yeah it's a holistic health time share fash great reality be aware of your powers because you do have them

this is like the the people who are doing telekinesis on TikTok oh what's the name Kai Chi or something oh yeah I like that go so is this a different post

because this one says comment host if you want the perfect space to activate slash reveal those powers It's both. So you can either comment, host, or comment retreat. Oh, that's so funny. If I host, it's because I want the perfect space to activate slash reveal my powers. But if I drop retreat, it's because I want to join the retreat.

This is a real Pokemon red or blue type of option. Sophie's choice. I don't really know the Deals. What are the IVs? Is that like a little magic one? That's fun. $20 yoga classes? All right, that seems reasonable.

You'd have to pry us away is really funny because the native population is like, yeah, can you fuck we'd like to pry you away please you've raised the uh housing tax in this area by 10,000 percent so from $20 yoga classes to owning what well oh they're saying they went from $20 yoga classes to now they own one of the most beautiful or cheap venues in the world I can do that okay you'd have to pry me away it feels like they're saying and they manifested this basically you know and it wasn't some sort of dubious business practice you know I this is maybe a really, really tenuous connection. And let me know if this doesn't make any sense.

But I feel like, so like a while ago, we did a rebrand on the sad boys' aesthetics. And it was like a handful of reasons. We just want to refresh it, try something new. We wanted assets that were only hours, etc., etc. Yeah, yeah. One of the things that kept coming up when we were working on it is like we want to, in the show and in its presentation, kind of disabuse people of the notion that when we talk about this stuff, we're doing it from, A, a position of authority, because we're not.

It's just ourselves. But B, that we're doing it with some kind of policy or prescription, right? Like, hey, if you feel like you need to cry, then you can is way more, I think, our thought process than if you feel bad, you need to cry. Like this, I am constantly concerned that this show could be that. Does that make any sense? Like a concern that if we, like the conversation we just had, if we were like, you need to go to musicals.

and you need to go to a cafe and cry. You must. And you have to pay me. You have to pay me so I can tell you to do it. Coaching style. Here's the calendar. It's like, um, it's arrogant, I guess. Half of these, uh, calendar events start with Maestro.

Oh, because it's Maestro Valley, of course. Who's the most popular account amongst the four horsemen of the apocalypse? Yeah. The javeling guys wore. Yeah. They don't try this at home maybe. I'm just curious. Oh, yeah.

Okay. Oh, no. Of course. Of course. Grab some of the herbs. No. I don't want to eat more food. Wait, let's stop.

Let's stop. Let's pause. I'm done. I don't want this anymore. I am going to read the caption. Ah. Uh. Yeah, okay.

He's just one of those guys. It's such pick me shit. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, because that's like intuitively weird to be. It's funny because like what? Like, uh, Liver King is in jail or something right now? Yeah. Oh, is this?

the original guy this is i think the first one that was in the video oh yeah well he's um he studies chinese medicine which here's the thing um i would go to uh a chinese practitioner of chinese medicine rather than it's scary yeah what if he does something chinese to me one of the and i don't know the full like i feel like holistic medicine has been like co-opted in the western world by this like by this kind of concept whereas like the actual like basis of holistic medicine is not doesn't feel scammy like the idea being that like your body kind of works in tandem and like you want to solve root causes rather than symptoms and that's like where western medicine kind of gets you know uh bent around the axle um it's implicitly racist yeah because it

mythologizes Asia to the extent of being like elves to be magic users this is their whole medical industry is China is still around today you can't talk about it like it's middle like why use the the wisdom of ancient Greece if they're talking about like 2010 Greek what's this guy's most popular real I have had like a disproportional amount of acupuncture in my life and it was interesting but it didn't I don't by the way these guys have all had big things about pooping and about complications with their poop. And I don't want to know about it. But I guess, like, I'm, I personally have a theory that has to do with their weird ass diet. Have you ever noticed that you feel very strange all the time? I guess you eat

more raw meat. Well, you've created, you've created a whole new swath of problems that now you can solve for them. Have you ever noticed that you're constantly sunburned? Yeah, you give everybody like, all right, guys, so we're going to do this new healing practice called touching the hot stove. And then you go, have your hands been burned lately? Third degree burn advice. Yeah, about your hands. Like, when you're touching the stove for vitality, and then I can also sell you this course on healing,

on my special ointments to heal you for the birds. They have a can't sleep video. It's going to be like, can't sleep, constantly getting food poisoning and it's keeping you awake. What's camp poop? Consumerism crisis? Do you sell a course? Oh, actually.

Oh, he's good. Oh, it's one of these? Like Reiki and acupuncture. That makes sense, I guess. Okay. All done. Just to that was it.

Oh, and by the way, don't forget to hydrate because that can also be... Yeah, quick shout out to that one. Just a shout out to like drinking water as well. Don't forget, dehydration, poor diet and stress could be back here as well. Avoid the point on the right side, large intestine four if you're pregnant.

What do you... This seems very risky. That was close. I guess he thankfully doesn't show that on the... right hand I don't know okay well it makes the baby come out too big let's move away from this um I just saw this uh so here's the thing we've had virtual influencers for a long time and little macaela I think has been around since like 2019 like they've been around for a long time they're a virtual influencer and they're just like 3D rendered in real life I think it's like maybe some

artist or something started it but they have started doing like brand deals Which the craziest one, I'm going to read this from the New York Times article. And then Jacob actually, in that article is the actual social media post. And this is from 2025 September 4th, so two weeks ago. When Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, the former speaker of the house, attended Outsidelands Music Festival last month in our home district of San Francisco, I feel like Nancy Pelosi just wants to go to these things. And just like makes, anyway, it doesn't matter.

I remember Nancy Pelosi walked into my, when I worked at Yelp, Nancy Pelosi, like, came through one time. I'm like, what are you doing here? Hello, Jarvis. Give me stock picks, though. She took a selfie with a popular influencer as 2.4 million followers. And then this is the most depraved fucking dead internet shit I've ever seen. Me vibing to at Gracie Abrams.

And I look up, and it's literally Speaker Pelosi. Like, shout out to Outside Lands for this iconic link up, L.O.L. Do the iconic linkup of the fake influencer and the former speaker of the house slash biggest profiteer of insider training allegedly Of the wolf of Wall Street Yeah, actually that's what it is It's the wolf of Wall Street

I don't wait, what am I looking at Like where does it begin and end? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, well, so on the left you got Loma Kayla Cool, big fan And on the right you have Nancy Pelosi In the middle, I don't know who that is Wait Is she

I don't understand Okay We can go to Lola Mikaela So Loma Kayla is a virtual influencer But she But like the guerrillas are virtual Like the older version of that She's the gorillas

But Nudal doesn't have like a photo With Nancy Pelosi How does this How did they do that So they took a photo of Nancy Pelosi And then they And then they And then they just put a

then they just rendered her in they probably had like a maybe they had a stand-in yeah so michaela's been around for a long time does felosi know uh i think this was like a like a full-on brand deal you can tell that she's like old school because um because if she was made today she would look way better and it says robot like in the bio yeah but she was she's one of the ogs of the virtual influencer space. But is that Jojo Siouard? Oh, yeah, is that a video?

Le Geo de Sua. Are they talking? Let's see. Hey, everyone, look, I saw your update, and I couldn't stop thinking about you. So, I ordered this. No way.

You signed up for the registry? I did. I know that 75% of patients have to look outside their families for a donor, and I just want to help. Oh, okay. Let's do it.

Shall we? Wait. Each cheek, right side first. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean, like, there's nothing wrong with, there's nothing wrong with this. I've done this. I'm just curious. Is the person filming Lil' Michaela?

I do feel like they're going to pan over to Lil'a Michaela or Lil'amacela's voice in the background. Let's find out. It's like comped in really weird. It's like, what's about to happen. Let's flood the registry with hope. Link in our bios. Oh. Fast.

Okay. So cut and, whoa. Yeah, like, clearly her. her um body is not connected to that head yeah that's a challenging image that's a mui five bullshit right this is that's the thing it's like i do feel like loma kelly's gonna be left behind she doesn't have the sauce like the the new virtual influencers of today not like tata timblen's new musician i just made a gold video about she's like that uh she's like the first generation of replicas in blade runner that are capable of like running away and rebelling yeah yeah

she's like android 16 damn it yeah they need to adjust um jojo siwar is uh 21 You know what's funny? Is Lil Mikaela sounds more like an influencer name than Jojo Siwa. And Jojo Siwa sounds more like an influencer, like a fake influencer name. Yeah, Zeros instead of O's. They could swap names and things would make a little more sense in this world. I know people are complaining about Jojo Siwa's new voice or whatever. I think it's funny because she sounds like Austin Butler after all this.

I've been watching videos of him talking and it's like sounds exhausting. It's a very... Yeah, yeah. Wow, really. Well, yeah, I really do really enjoy that. I do as somebody who struggles, you know, I'm self-conscious about the way my voice changes does, doesn't whatever.

I do want to give him some runway because you can just feel more authentic sounding differently. You know, you don't need like the, a BA in talking for whatever your accent is. I think he just sounds cool. But it is like. I just don't want to believe that someone can be that cool. Pretty badass, actually.

Because I don't think he sounds like Elvis. us anymore i just think he sounds really cool yeah he's just leveled out but it seems like a lot of work yeah um all right last but not least let's talk about uh woman propaganda which is a um which is a guy okay i'm keying in i'm seeing in yeah it's a guy i found a guy uh this is a dude who i'll well i want to get your vibe on him first and then i'll tell you some facts debunking the internet's most viral feminist propaganda and then angry patriot media. This all feels like if I were building a parody account, the things I would say. This Prophet Patriot just has a little Trump in it.

Yeah. Yeah, he's protecting him. This is like what we would call an account, yeah, the joke account we would make, or like the propagated thing. That's kind of the thing that I am thinking, yeah. All right, let's play the game. Is it, is it, are you for real? Yeah, psych or no psych?

Yeah. This and a godly woman, this nigger. Okay. Okay. 10,000 guesses, and I wouldn't have even gotten close. Okay. Well, unless. Where does it go from here?

Was that the entire thing? I think that what might have been it. Wow. Was he say again, Jacob? Wadly woman. This nigger. He's so, he looks so unnatural saying it. It's like teeth close.

I was like watching his neck. This nigga. This nigger. He's a single sweat bead. Interesting. It's like, that's one of those peek behind the curtain where you can't even, it doesn't matter how many layers deep into satire you are. You are just doing it.

you're just doing it. And so, yeah, this guy works for, um, this guy's a groper. This guy's groped up. It's a, it's a martial out these days. And I think that this is like an example of how kind of insidious this stuff is because I wish we hadn't started with that one. But I had not seen it. I hadn't seen it.

Oh, yeah. But the other ones I've seen, they present almost a satire. And it's like an example of how people are lured in to something that they feel like is a joke, but then actually. isn't because they're funded by big like Gavin McKinness's company. And incentivized by platforms

that are full of a lot of the worst people ever, right? Like it's not the reason that this does well is like partially ironic shares. I would absolutely send that to Austin. Oh yeah. I would absolutely trick us into watching that. Yeah for sure. But I would do it with like some degree of someone else. And I accidentally tricked

both of us into watch. Yeah, that's true. You did own me. I didn't get poned. You should have seen your face, dude. All right. Let's see the next one by the way the way to tell if someone is like corporate posting is the way they do reactions so unnaturally like oh with so much set up yeah this this looks like when he puts it in a little corner it just feels like it was paid for by a media company is he looking at it on a laptop you would think i hope so unless it's just he's supposed to be i guess i guess there's a corner of a Lenovo he's got his alien wear out or an iPad off off the camera

or off out of frame yeah your wife is your partner oh so our wife is your partner not your mom your wife is your partner not okay okay pause so the clip he's reacting to doth protest too much it's a little bit too much pick me boyfriend energy for me but it's uh you know but someone needs to hear that it's the sentiment isn't wrong this the sincerity of it in something like this kind doesn't matter because the sentiment is like relatively harmless and sometimes productive kind of like the inverse of if he's a joke right because it's like dude what if i hated women that's crazy dude what if i did do that i kind of did a little bit i do kind of hate him a little bit but i'm like kidding but i'm not whereas he this i don't know also this stuff is like

pick me for us a little because it's kind of overplayed it's overplayed for most people it isn't for most people that is like a novel novel concept it's It is also a huge issue. It is a big issue. People like marrying people because they need parenting. Right. They need a mom to help them. Yeah.

And it's like... Imagine getting yourself into that situation. Dude. Where it's like, if only I know how to do this laundry, but now I have all these kids. Fuck. Now I have to do laundry for children. This sucks.

She is not a living maid or a hired cleaning crew, so she shouldn't have to pick up after you. This is a cucking ritual. That's very good This is how they get you They're just not fucking real Is it the whole thing Oh

That would be wild He just goes this nigga This cuck I don't know if this guy realizes what he's doing, but this is, uh, you go to hell for doing this. Huh? Wait. I don't, okay.

Huh? Huh? What do you mean? And that's, oh, and he doesn't even expound upon that. Is there like a extended format version of this? Like, is this from? I don't think so. Does he have like a one minute React channel and these are later?

I feel like this is like there's TikTok. Oh, it could be, yeah. Watch my YouTube video, singular. Oh, boy. Okay. so we correct the code then yeah this is not irony yeah it's not irony all right well well well if it isn't exactly what i expected if it isn't the the i generated version of these opinions this is how i found out about this guy totally against watching sports football you're watching

grown men play a child's game and you're cheering like the outcome of this game means anything it's really pathetic. I say that watching sports is worse than watching anime. So this is, I think, just a great example of how these type of people gain an audience off of, like, contrarian

seeming, like, satire. It's like, it's masking. And it's, I think it's insidious the way that, because this obviously doesn't read, you couldn't possibly, you can seriously believe this. This is like the most or at the very least, like, transparent

bait you can if like the world you occupy is high school core and you're just signaling things you know you should or shouldn't think exactly that's the communication the signaling is grown men you're right like if you want to be a grown man as a 14 year old boy yes yeah oh grown men don't watch i knew that this i didn't fit into society in this way how is it considered like like i think Inarguably the thing that maybe everyone pretty consistently would say is manly is like self-assured, right? It's like confident. I think it's probably the most universal default masculine term. Right.

This shit is so insecure to be doing like, this is just like a rebranded, rephrased version of Irmit Le Sportsball. No, it is. And it's also so false. Like I just wanted to be clear how easy. it is for these people to present things that they don't actually believe. Oh, yeah. Because the same type of people who hype up this golden era of masculinity or something, it's like gladiators were sport.

You know what I mean? Like all of this stuff has basis in like the times that you glorify and the most powerful people of those times that you glorify, the kings and rulers of such valued sport. If like the most trad ways of showcasing masculinity are something you do value, but then you're saying like, well, yeah, but football is bad, you're just doing a little dance for your audience then because they don't do that. That's the thing they don't like. And that's the thing. Actually, anime's means your penis is huge, I heard, from computers. Given the current political climate, it's, uh, I mean, let me look that up.

Yeah. It's an important time to acknowledge how much. posturing and lying there is online. Yeah. And pretending. And it's not, if you, if someone sees you doing this and any part of them goes like, oh, this, I guess this is real, all that's stupid. Your response can't be like, oh, you thought that was completely sincere.

You've just been owned. Like, no, you shit, your thoughts in public. You thought it was sincere when I said the N-word for real. I see that you've been played. yeah it stinks I shit my pants can't handle the smell I'm gonna leave you stinks here well actually shitting your pants is the most manly thing

you can do because what type of like what type of girly bullshit is sitting on a toilet bro? We're gonna sit down like a girl stand up run through the streets not sport run through the streets shitting like a man what are you gonna do crying yourself like your fathers and forefathers

before you 5 1 by the way yeah 6 9 actually oh bro 6 7 Dude, look at sports. Sports are for NPCs. One of the top comments. Right, right. I'm not a sports guy.

Like, I'm getting curious now. I, like, want to maybe have an interest. But it's because at one point in my life, I was an embarrassing cringe. Le Sports Bowl, you're just people wearing different jerseys. I hope both teams have fun. I just watch for the Super Bowl ads. It's like the same people engage in the fucking console wars. You know what I mean?

Like, it's like you just did sports. You just made sports again. What the being a grown-up. And granted, most... I'm sorry, the most cucked thing in the world was the console wars. Oh, dude. No, no... By, by, like, Balmer?

By big capitalism, dude. Dude, Reggie Fiza me making you a cuck? That's the craziest thing is, like, directly tying your self-worth to the amount of market capitalization you can build for, like, one of these, like, gargantuan megacorbs. Not only don't know who you are, could not care less if you died. It means nothing to that. And that's the thing. It's like...

Fuck, the NFL can't. handle this but even but i i have an issue with engaging intellectually with this because it's not meant to be like this is the type of contrarianism that like to even engage with it intellectually is kind of the bait a bit but that's what i think that we're like painting with a broad brush to say we're kind of illustrating to an audience that like we're engaging with this as a teaching moment yeah and it's not your bait isn't valid right that's the thing the just the because it's bait doesn't make it valid. It's the shitting yourself in public.

Ah, look, I wrote the N word in my own turds. I'm like, you have to like shit. Actually, I just TP'd your house. So jokes on you. It's like, it's sad. It's, it's embarrassing that you need to. There is nothing, in my opinion, more shameful than fear. I don't want to say fear is never valid,

but insecure fear as a result of like something you can't explain. Just being too insecure about what you want to say or how you want to say it or being approved of people. and then contorting yourself and the way you say something so that you be approved is incredibly embarrassing. And to then frame it as, yeah, well, you thought I was being serious. Like, okay, so be serious. What is the thing you actually think and why aren't you saying it? It's because you either don't believe anything or you're too scared to say it sincerely.

Yeah. Bad ass, dude, very manly. It's like a lightning rod and a honeypot for the type of anti-examination. social behavior that can be harmful if festered. Yeah. Like, because, you know, even if you don't like sports, you can acknowledge is that there's a community around sports and people can bond over sports. And so when you start to alienate, like, if you say watching TV, playing video games,

doing sports, whatever, all of those things are actually gay and you shouldn't do them. And by the way, gay means bad in this context, right? then in not masculine, not whatever, then it kind of feels like what call to do, where they take away all of your loved ones and people, they kind of poison those relationships where, except for this is a more institutional way of doing that, where actually no interest of yours that could build community is valid. The only way is to find a community of people who we've engineered to be antisocial with our uh yes with our seemingly countercultural or seemingly contrarian like viewpoints yeah it's like um it's like people who like trying to make

some kind of moral position about like i'm actually more of a chunky peanut butter kind of guy yeah hey i i think at this point most people can fuck with chunky peanut butter it is not like confrontational anymore most adults can handle pulp in their orange juice pineapple on their pizza this is like this is a proxy war for people who feel for us frustrated with life, but don't have any opinions or life experience. Exactly. That's exactly what it is. It's a proxy. It's exactly what you said. Sorry, I don't have any commentary. It's just exactly what you said. And also it's exactly what you said. You've been owned by the master of logic. I feel like a great place to end is just don't be

afraid of community. Don't be afraid of feeling feelings about things. Don't be afraid of like enjoying something that people don't enjoy and connecting with people who enjoy those things. There's nothing, like, bad about community. There's, I guess, like, some communities aren't the best. There's something bad with doing bad things. Yeah. But, like, being a Cubs fan and then blowing up a hospital, the bad part was blowing up the hospital. Right, right.

Try to acknowledge when people are, just, just be more vigilant to disingenuity on, whoa, is that the way to say that word? Yeah, disingenuousness, disingenuity. I think I may have done a conjugation. Disingenement mode? Yeah. Going sickle mode. Like, just be aware of, like, people who are, like, disingenuous for pay online. Like, because that is a petal.

That is a, that is a snake oil. And if you think, like, you know, I'm sure there's people are like, you know, the sad boys just pick me stuff. They're just, you know, they're doing it for their own kind of attention. Okay, if you want, I don't know what demographic that serves. I don't know what we're getting. The thing is, like, like, if you act in accordance with your morals, and beliefs, you will not find as many dramatic turns and dramatic deviations from that without an explanation.

Really, all this shit is just like, this specifically is, it's signaling to people who resent a version of jock they've come up within their brain. Right. It's not people they hang out with it. But it's also like create the enemy. Yeah. And then rally around the enemy. Straw man or whatever.

Exactly. And now you have kind of brought people. people or endeared them to your cause, but you're endearing them to your cause for a nefarious purpose, because you're pointing that towards a hateful place. They don't believe you. And we know from like this person's content that they're doing that. And I just think it's like weak baby shit. Yeah.

Boo-boo. Go have your milk. And I got to, I got to fucking watch sports after this. Bro, I've got to do a dunk. Bro, I got to do a dunk and I've got a fucking, like, I got a smooch a hunk. I got a girl style. Yeah. I'm about to go girls style.

I'm about to spooch a girl hunk. All right. Well, we'll see if we survived the next episode because we are going to be putting tape over our mouth and nose. Yeah, look out for, look out. I don't even think I'll make a headline. It'll be like Jarvis died, obviously. Good news. Doing something dumb as hell.

Dex Soto Post. Someone called Jamis or something. Yeah, James Johnson. Jamie Jansson dies hilariously. Died in a very funky little cuckoo bananas way. Jordan Adika does first funny thing. Dies. Right.

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