Sad Boyz - Labubus Are Breaking Our Brains

Episode Date: June 21, 2025

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Welcome back to love Island USA. Oh, no little tweak. Oh Welcome to sad boys a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm I'm your host Wait, do I do I say I'm just episode Jordan did something kind of weird What that looking up at the right like what wait? What do you mean? Anastasia was there too. Hi, you were, you've been Love Island Pilled? We talked a little bit on Knights today. Yeah, we talked about it on Knights. We recorded Knights earlier

and we just talked about dating shows on Love Island and we looked at their tattoos that are bad. It's, and speaking as somebody who's, who wields a handful of bad tattoos himself. No, it's- No, I love them. No, but that is, what's crazy about it is that your tattoos don't,

like even if you think they're bad, there's like a layer of, first of all, I don't think they're bad. I like your tattoos. And- It's a different level of bad. It's a different level, because you can't look at any of your tattoos

and go, that's fucking stupid. The same way that I can look at ape shall not kill ape and go Taylor, what the fuck were you thinking? I think this, maybe this is actually just like adult life in general, where you can be whatever you want, be however you want. But the thing that is risky is sincerity. You have to like balance it out.

If you're gonna do something really stupid, you gotta do it self aware it out if you're gonna do something really stupid You got to do it self-awarely if you're gonna do something really stupid and you're like I just go like a silly tattoo You've now escaped the criticism of why do you have Caesar from Planet of the Apes across your but right like I just don't It's just a different level when well you do have that giant back piece that says Jordan Oh, I got that in the yakuza. Yeah to remind me because sometimes I'm looking the wrong direction But the funny thing is All of the letters are the same size except for the end because they ran out of space. Yeah, I'm Jordan I'm they kind of left it looking a little bit like an eye happens to me whenever I make a sign

I George AI Jordan I Am Jordan I I am Jordan I am Jordan Ian Sterling the man who shout out to Ian Sterling I've just been working on my I've been working on my Ian Sterling always at the Love Island guy He's like the announcer for love. I love I That's the, yeah, love I. That's the pirate dating show. What?

Arr. That's an R. Welcome to me love show. Arr, be love blind. Yeah, don't worry about it. So have y'all heard of La Boo Boo's? Yeah. End of discussion.

We're wrapping up the episode. Thanks for coming in. I keep hearing about it and I'm almost it feels like it's too late to ask what it is because I've been you know when you're kind of just writing on social cues someone's like, you seen this movie? I'm like, yep. And then you hear the movie they said?

You're like, well, I already said yes. So, Labooboos in my understanding are a part of a larger movement of blind boxes taking over America. And the concept of, well, the concept of a blind box being you have a little figure in a box, and the box is uniform, and it's almost like a booster pack, where you don't know what you're gonna get,

and there's different rarities, or I don't even know if there's different rarities. But. Like, there is rares and specials. Like, there are ones that you don't know. Right. Like, cause on the back, usually you'll see a series. And it'll be like the,

You could get one of these. The Smeeskies that are sleeping or whatever. And it's like, there'll be six of them on the back. And Smeeski's like a little green guy who glows in the dark, question mark. I have one in the car. Our little, those little Dragonite and David Leaf. Oh yeah, those are like little Pokemon,

Pokemon blind boxes. What's his name? Ricky Leaf? Ricky Leaf? Roserade? Yeah, that's the one. Ricky Leaf? Well, I don't know if he Ricky leaf with Rosarade. Yes one Ricky leaf Rosarade yeah, no Ricky leaf. Yes, I do have one of those one of the mine and Pokemon go my Nephew named in he it's flower guy flower guy. Oh, yeah, leave and flower guy Ricky leaf and flower guy I named on your book. I Ricky Lake you did I really like the name Remember Ricky Lake that was like a thing. My mom watched

Talk show. Oh, it's like a Maury so You know, obviously it's like a Stanley Cup in that maybe the there's demographic overlap Oh, oh, and there is like hype overlap and it's Popular on tik-tok which Stanley cups were as which is I kind of also part of the demographic thing I'm talking about but I think part of this is that this is a little Fluffy guy that you put on your backpack or hang from your belt or something? It's like it's a wear. It's an except. Well actually Stanley cups were an accessory. Yeah, but like also but not

but like the skews younger because I see high school kids Like you know proud of their little smile. Not all of them are keychain though, right? Yeah I thought they were like full-size ones There there are but it's a lot less common to have I see There are ones that are more like those Pokemon blind boxes where it's a little figure that you put on a shelf But those came later These are the coveted ones. That's some fake but those came later. These are the coveted ones that hang from a little key chain.

Can I just say something off the bat? I don't like them. So, I don't like them. They creep me out a little bit. They're so cute. I don't like them. I feel like you'd like a different type of, what are the other, what's the little sitting cuties,

that's the name for the Pokemon plushes? Sunny Angels. Sitting cuties is the line of Pokemon plushes. Yeah, I do love sitting cuties or that's the name for the sunnies? sunnies, sitting cuties is the line. Yeah, I love sitting cuties. There's a lot of like, if you go to like Pop Mart, which if you don't know what Pop Mart is, it's a blind box store basically. Yeah. Collectible store.

There's so many of them in there. I went to one recently that I cannot, I don't like them. I don't like them. They freak me out. You don't like the Pop Marts? Just most of the thing, they freak me out. You don't like the pop marts? Just most of the thing, no most of the products. Most of the products in-

Yeah, you don't like most of the blind box lines. Yeah, they're just like a little too babyish. There's so many though, like there are the like baby ones, but then there's also like really intricate ones, and really like almost like anime figuriney type ones. Yeah, like there's a- And now they've been, like there's a lot of IPs that have been mapped on to the blind box model. Yeah, I have

I I'm a longtime sufferer of blind box addiction That's okay, and I have to say I've never liked the pop-mart ones like those crying ones. I think they're weird Can we get some represent representation for smiskey? I kind of fuck with smiskey Like those crying ones. I think they're weird Representation for Smiskey. I kind of fuck with Smiskey. I don't I didn't know that until you Popular Is squishy oh he's like a guy and he's like The peach riot blind boxes, I love those I haven't gotten any but every time that's what I'm saying. Yeah, I fuck with that guy. There's also the Peach Riot blind boxes. I love those. I haven't gotten any, but every time I see them,

I'm like, oh wait, those are cute as hell. So my problem is I'll get like little anime blind boxes or Sanrio. Like Sanrio is my ultimate weakness. I love Bats Maru and I do that thing that is so annoying where I'm like, ooh, I'm gonna get this blind box batsmaru and I do that thing that is so annoying where I'm like, ooh, I'm gonna get this blind box cause it has a batsmaru option. The moment you only want one of them,

you're never gonna get that one. I always, cause like in like little Tokyo or something, they have so many. Oh those are like the more intricate ones. Yeah, the Petra, I love the Petra. They have three characters and they're really cute. But. That's batsmaru. In like little Tokyo, there's a lot of Pokemon blind boxes

and I love looking at those, but I will only buy them if I would be okay with every single one of them. Because if there's one I really, oh my God. I wanna take you guys back a little history lesson here. Anastasia, you know this. Cause she's like sitting on his desk. So in Japan, there's a thing called Gashapon figures and you can get them in like little little Tokyo here, but

They're like proto blind boxes where you get like a little capsule And it's all it's also the like inspiration for pokeballs and like Pokemon and stuff like Like capsule monsters was the original name for Pokemon because they open half and half the same way right it is like in this yeah and so like this these are like Dragon Ball Z gosh upon that I've had since I was in high school like and and it was like they sat on little Dragon Balls and I think they those Dragon Balls got lost in the you know decades of transit by show sitting. I mean, the Dragon Balls are famous for getting lost. Yeah, and there's seven of them out there, so look under your seat.

But anyway, the, oh, these guys are cool. This, he's not gonna sit because his hair is weighing him down, but. He's got big ass head. But that, those things are all over Japan, like having a Like you go to a store and they're like outside of the store There will be a little gatchapon like machine and it'll be a line of like attack on Titan gatchapon You're like, oh, I hope I can get my Levi or whatever

And I hope I don't get arid and you don't know what you're getting until it like comes out of the machine I got my niece and Ava you're getting until it like comes out of the machine. I got my niece and Ava blind box. And it's so funny because all of the options, you're like, yes, these are so cool. I love all these characters. But then one of them was Shinji's dad. It's like, I don't want this monster. I want a Gendo Dash phone.

I don't. And put him on a high shelf. So he's looking down at me. So I gave it to my niece. I was like, hey, I just realized like you could get Gendo and I'm sorry if that's the one you get. Because now that you mention it, that's the one I want. Yeah, dude. If I see that one again, Jarvis, I'll get it. There's a video of Rhett and Link opening blind boxes

and they're doing a Peach Riot one and Rhett gets one of the, they have different names. There's Frankie, Gigi, and Poppy. Poppy's the one with the blonde hair and he gets one of her in like a lab coat like holding a beaker and stuff and he starts like singing a song about women in STEM and it's the funniest.

He gets so excited. It's such a cute little wholesome clip. I don't like those guys. I'm not kidding. First blind box ever. Yeah, not for me. He gets so excited. It's so, it's such a cute little wholesome clip. I don't like those guys. Kitten asked. Let it rank. Yeah, not for me. The first blind box I bought in America was at Kid Robot in San Francisco in like 2008.

Bam. It was a long time ago. So is it that the, this one here has reached a, what's it called again? Boo Boo? La Boo Boo. Baby Boo Boo. Oh my God. Kid Boo. So is it that the this one here has reached a booboo baby booboo my kid boo This one is like reaching a fever pitch that like is almost this is mainstream level And you shit and they're now like

Costing like 60 $70 for one secondary markets going crazy There are so many knockoffs. Lafoufou is what people call the knockoffs. Oh, I saw a friendship breakup right in front of my eyes all over a la boo boo. I was leaving the mall after getting my AirPods fixed at the Apple store. And as I was leaving, I passed by this store with all of this commotion outside of it. The place is called Pop Mart and there was these long lines and crowds all around it and I was confused because I'd never heard of it Before so I was like, why are all these people around this random store? I needed answers. So I went up to a random group in line and I was straight up

I was just like what are you guys waiting for one of the dudes in the group responds and he's just like oh We're all trying to get la boo boo. And I was like la what? I want to ask like what is a la boo boo? This dude's super nice and he's just like oh they're these fuzzy little toy collector items and he's like oh I actually have one and he pulls one of these la boo boo's out. I'm just gonna say it right now this thing looked strange. Relax. As soon as he pulls it out one of the girls in the group goes you know know that's not a la boo boo, that's a la foo foo. I'm just thinking like, now what's a la foo foo? This dude goes on to get like visibly angry and he's like, no, it's a genuine la boo boo. Then this girl turns to me and she goes, no,

this is a la boo boo. And she pulls out another one of these weird. I kind of feel like he's capping a little bit. Yeah, I was gonna say such a cool fake story. Yeah. And then everyone clapped and I'd And I dunked and I did also did it You know, but I do It does explain something it just is there to be sure which is that LeBubu's real Lefoufou's imitation

so pop are actually like two of my friends, shout out Chelsea and Echo, are crazy for loboos. And so occasionally when we're hanging out, they'll be like, let's go to Popmar and see if they have any in stock because they sell out a lot. We also buy them at this place called Necco Stop in the Santa Anita mall. What's your address? Shout out to Necco Stop.

What? What's like your address? If people wanna go see them. 1122 Boogie Woogie Avenue. Oh, wow. You moved here pretty early. Scary. And they, we went there recently

and Pop Mart said, we do not sell Labooboos in store anymore. You have to buy them online and pick them up here because there have been so many fights in store that they're like, you just buy it online and you'll come here and pick it up. You should be allowed to fight for it. It's sounding like the Pokemon card, Grace.

Yeah. I mean, so many fights in Costco's lately. You should be allowed to Pokemon battle for them. So there's also a lot of people who, you know, try to complete collections of them. And the reason that's difficult is there are rare Labooboos. And so here's an example of someone looking for a secret labooboos. And so here's an example of someone looking for a secret labooboo.

So that's when the picture's not on the back. Yeah, this is that's a very funny image. It'll be like a silhouette with a question mark sometimes. Yeah. And so it'll show you out of all the options. Here's what you could get. And then there's one secret labooboo that's not pictured. That is rare. This is my last attempt to get the secret lububu. I spent way too much money.

Please give me the secret. This is just opening packs of Pokemon cards. It's the same vibe and that's why I could never shame it. There's no ceremony though. These are like moving the cards. What's shame it. Well, there's no ceremony though Is there like moving the car? This is what's crazy is yeah, there's no ceremony like because these things are not cheap No, no, no, and there are people buying like retail boxes of them like her like whole cases Which it's like sure but then this is the secret Labooboo that she got conveniently at the end and it's not staged at all.

It's kind of, it's also kind of the ugliest once she pulled out of there. Yeah, so this is the most recent craze, I believe, as of my understanding, this is the one that everyone wants right now with the rainbow eyes. Oh yeah. It's the secret Labooboo in the Big Into Energy series. Which is the newest one.

So this is like, I can explain this in the, I can relate this to like packs of Pokemon cards, right? It's like, you have a new set, it's got some chase to it. And you've got some common stuff and you got some rare stuff. And so you're opening up stuff to try to get the rare stuff. The idea being, they found a business model where they can make you buy a thing multiple times because you are randomly gonna get a result

and you're gonna create chase. And there is like, the feeling of going for the chase is fun. And that's like basically, it's just scaled that model to it is like NFTs except for once again NFTs fail by like not being a real thing. Oh no, the NFTs parts are going to be design wise. Yes, no, exactly. This is my Smisky. Oh, he's so chill.

This is from the yoga series. This was a gift of my friend got me and my smiskey that I got is actually he's Lying down smiskey and get this He comes with a little guy Lion you is that also him. Oh my god, he's dead. Sorry, Smisky, he died. Do they all come with a little guy or just yours? This one's special.

Two for one? I can't balance it. God, he's cool though. Something like that. See, this could be, don't do yoga. I can't balance. I'm trying to do this backwards and I'm bad at it. Anyway.

Woo, he's chilling. Can I introduce a new level to this oh he's done there Yes so the second the secondary level of Labooboo's is They come naked and people have started dressing them up. Yes Clothing for Labooboo's is now its own separate thing like when I went to wondercon There was a whole booth in the artists row of Labooboo's is now its own separate thing. Like when I went to WonderCon, there was a whole booth in the artist's row

of Labooboo clothing. This one, I got something crazy. Jordan, you're gonna appreciate this. Someone needs to film like a montage of them like trying on the clothes, like an old 90s. Well, I sent Jacob a bunch of photos. Chanel hat. Tiny Coca-Cola for your Labooboo.

Jordan, you'll appreciate this. My friend Rachel Weeks of Command Zone fame has Labooboo's and she has started making magic accessories for her Labooboo. Oh, sign me up. And so wait, I should. Maybe I do want Labooboo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so her her Instagram post like they've got a little Binders, oh you can turn their head

Yeah, you can bend their legs and turn their heads sometimes. I don't know if all of them are strong enough I guess you can do anything That are called like sitting Something sitting little sitting booboo sitting in their boo-boo and those sitting, sitting in their boo boo. And those ones, I think their legs are always bent. Le boo boo car seat. That's great. Like for your actual car or like hypothetical.

Be a child. Be a very small child. And there's also ones where like, Le boo boo clothes never worn. Like is that, one of those was, yeah, one of those was a Luffy, right? There is, there's Luffy in his guns. Whoa. Wow.

Why are they covering the Labubu face? Well, because you don't want to be, he's got guns. Because some people have mistakenly bought Labubu clothes thinking that the Labubu comes with it. I see. Okay, well that's Darwinism. If they should be punished for that. There's something about the one with Chanel and Coca-Cola

that I'm like, look, I of course partake in capitalism, but whenever we do, we're fighting over little boo-boos and then they cost $70 each and then I buy other brands for my fake doll. I'm just, something about it freaks me out a little bit. Yeah, I mean, this is cute. So where does it go wrong? Well, where it goes wrong is when people

are fighting and stealing. The theft, right? So this is also happening with everything. It's just like, okay, so as of this recording, apparently like 3,000 Switch 2s were just like okay, so As of this recording Apparently like 3,000 switch twos were just like heisted from a truck like going to a GameStop and that's like Okay, guys dude that guy loves gaming. He loves he loves Mario Kart world dude It was like I'm gonna play it with all three thousand my friends. What am I like Zorro want to and hands?

We got people fighting each other at at The Pokemon vending machine I don't mean to be a spoil sport or yuck any yums and I'm I'm not because I think most people are Doing it very sincerely and it is fun to collect but sometimes I can't help but feel like there's an awful lot of hobbies or recreational behaviors that I'm trying to figure out when the fun happens.

Yeah. It's almost like the living frictionlessly kind of thing. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I do my work as efficiently as possible so that I can get home, not spend time with my family. And like, it's like, what is this for? Like you get it and you're, you're getting it for the resales. Like, oh, okay.

So then you crack it and you get the rare one you want it. And you go like, great. Now I have something to post to then argue about to then sell. And I'm like, when's the, when's the part you like? to then argue about, to then sell. When's the pot you like? Well, I think from my own experience with blind box addiction, and I'm kind of joking, but I'm also kind of serious.

Like I was legit addicted. Like I could not stop buying them To try and get the one I want But from my experience the fun is in the beginning and then it's all downhill from there, baby Like not only does it get so expensive Where you're like quickly spending so much money and you're like, why did I just spend $100 at like Pop Mart or whatever? And then the other part is the sort of like fighting and like stealing and people largely ruining it

for everyone. You know, like the fact that Pop Mart only sells them online. So now people have to like hunt online for when they're gonna drop. Yeah, when you got to like go to the mall before with your friends and find, yeah. Yeah, it used to be like, you go to the mall, you're hanging out and you're like,

oh my God, they have Labooboos, let's get one, how fun. And you know, even then they were like $30, which is kind of expensive. I'm a few. Well, yeah, not for daddy Warbucks over here. Yeah, that's my dad. There's something to be said about the death of casual hobbies.

Yeah. Where it's like, even like, like Pokemon, they're like the set I've been most excited for, for like a year now, the pre-orders drop tonight on Walmart. But if you have Walmart Plus, which is 12.99 a month, you get access to the pre-order drop tonight on Walmart, but if you have Walmart Plus, which is $12.99 a month, you get access to the pre-order three hours early. So they're going to be gone by the time anyone who doesn't have Walmart, and I'm not buying

Walmart Plus to get access to maybe get the pre-order for this thing. Not to mention you're competing with bots a lot of time, if anything. So I'm going to spend $12 on Plus, so Walmart gets more of my money and then I don't even get the product that I kind of wanted. Scalpers have ruined everything. Speaking of, I was curious, so this isn't the secret rare from the set, which apparently goes for $250 on eBay.

Which is like, what the hell? They're doing the fusion dance though, so I get it. Yeah, look at how talented it is. And then this one though is still like, I think this maybe costs like $18, like this blind box for the Smisky, but this one's like $35. On eBay? On eBay, secondary market, yeah.

Here's a little clip from the Wall Street Journal about Pop Mart and La Boo Boo's, and they have someone talk about sort of like the psychology of blind boxes. So just has this been I feel like design wise, I recognize it so clearly. Have they been around for like 20 years or something that that exact design, super low mouth, little spiky teeth, those exact eyes. It looks so familiar. It reminds me of where the wild things are.

Yeah. Oh, you might be right, that might be exactly it. When you decide to splurge on a pop-marked blind box, which could cost around 20 to 30 dollars, you don't go in totally blind. Take this collection. There are six possible characters you could unbox, and a secret one that you have

a one in 72 chance of getting. I do like the, again, I think collecting and investing time in little fun things that have a rhythm to them. I think that's what's fun about collecting, right? It's rhythmic. It's not a hobby that you typically burn yourself out on because there is a skinner box to it. It's like a grind and a gradual growth and development or whatever. But I stopped buying magic boosters when I basically just stopped playing magic for other contexts and circumstances, because I don't get the I like collecting with the knowledge that I'll make a deck with the knowledge that I'll play with it.

It's always sitting there. Right. Is the mission I like in in theory the base collecting part, but again, maybe it's old man yells at cloud. A lot of this stuff is so stressful. It's like so tinged with a lot of people. I know just buying them just fine all of that. But as far as the way that people talk about them online, it is like, yeah, I'm getting into this job I don't get paid for. And I was like, this sounds like a nightmare.

Going to the store thinking you might get in an argument, filming yourself opening it, posting it. I'm just like, oh. Yeah, that kind of stuff. Well, the argument part, no thanks. But what I will say is, to play devil's advocate, I do think that the chase is a part of the fun. Yeah, it's like you need the lows so you can get those highs.

Because I think that like going and looking around for something, like when I was like trying to find a switch too even, I was like, I didn't, I don't need it. I was like, I want to get it eventually. But there's something about like being in the right place, right time and like when they're restocking or whatever. Also it's like you're getting that like dopamine hit. It's the same thing that gambling or even social media

kind of plays off of is you keep doing it even though it's not enjoyable. That's the good about it. Because every once in a while it is really enjoyable. Well yeah, it's variable reward. We know from like rats, you from rats how effective this is. Because they taught us. Because we're them too.

Yeah, because it's like if you have a reward that's dispensed at a regular interval, then that's one thing you come to expect. But when you don't know when the reward is coming, you become more obsessed with the act of checking for that reward. This guy kinda talks about that too. Oh yeah, let's find him.

Yeah, well who is he? Wall Street Journal? Some sort of professor. I do always have, whenever I see a Wall Street Journal article like this or a video, I do think of, like a kid just fresh out of journalism school is like I was gonna do a fucking expose I was supposed to write about like international politics. Why am I here? I love labooboo's I just have to I'm obsessed. I have to do a whole story about this

Um, you guys are obsessed with little boo-boos and I'm obsessed with the boobs six one and a half by the way This week is maybe it's getting stronger. Have you heard the doctor say this week, because maybe it's 6.2 now? I've been stretching. Oh my god. You're like, yeah, Miss Spinal column is twice the length, but you're looking necromorph. I do need to stretch. One of the things that the brand can do to keep engagement, to encourage consumers to get a little more excitement out of it, is to label the box. This one says have a seat. I know the range. So I still get that surprise. But

at the same time, I know I'm not going to get anything crazy. That specific range also creates a set. It's well known, well supported phenomenon that most people under certain conditions have a very strong tendency to want to complete a set. That's Peep's call out right there. Oh, dude. Can we, sorry, Jager, we have to include in the,

maybe it's a little treat at the end of the episode or something. Peep's bought a binder for the newest Pokemon collection of the day, and it is the same size as them. It holds a thousand or something. We measured, it holds over a thousand cards, and I bought it because there's over 800 in the new set, and I wanna master set it.

It is a third of my size. We measured it, it takes three of them to reach my size. It's very funny. You peeps have a thing where I don't have this, thank God, where it's like you like to master set things, which I think is insane. I think it's like a fool's errand, and you're setting yourself up for disappointment,

or spending a lot of money on singles. Well, to be fair, I've only master set in one set. But you're addicted. But I wanna do this next time. I was gonna say, you master set in one set, but I've heard you discuss master sets for various sets. And a master set, by the way, is like, when you have not only all the cards in the set,

but all of the alternates, all the variants, all of the reverses. I feel like I'd have the same conversation with Ash. I'd be like, dude, you got it. You can't catch all of them. The very best. Are you crazy, man? I've got to catch them all.

You don't, you're 10. I've got to. The Ash is addicted to catching Pokemon. With the collector mindset, when I got back into Pokemon cards, it was like a kind of slow ramp up, and then I moved to LA and I was like, pshh. But- Hollyweird, I call it.

Dude, Hollyweird. And then I got so collector brain that it really was not fun for a bit. Like I was just, cause it was like, oh, I just want to get the cards And I just have to get them because I'm complete this thing. Yeah, but then I started Going to the card shops just like with my friends and instead we were like appreciating every car we pulled And so like yes, like doing it with people that just appreciate the cards for what they are not oh

I didn't get one. That's worth more than the money money I spent on the pack. So that means I failed right? Totally. I like the story of like for me. I've never been a Like completionist collector nor a thematic collector like some people collect, you know specific collector. Like some people collect, you know, specific illustrators or specific Pokemon. Like I do want to eventually maybe have like a Weavile Sneasel collection, just because that's like my favorite Pokemon. But the stuff that I have, I like that there's a story for each thing. And so that's more of like a I have what I have type thing. And

there's like I have a memory, an anchor, a story to go with how I ended up with this thing. It's like, Oh, I have this card that's like graded in a nine that I didn't buy, but I happened to open this and I graded it myself. And so yeah, sure. It's not a 10, but it's the one I got. And it's the grade that I got. And that has like its own kind of appreciation. I get it's a weird comparison, but it certainly feels similar to me,

at least where like I, I would never get like a sleeve tattoo or a full leg done or something like that. Because the thing I really enjoy is going to new tattoo shops and asking the artist for their designs that they haven't, no one's taken? Yeah, and then you like, when they show you ape shall not kill ape. I'm like, well, fuck I have to kill it I guess. Well, I mean, I guess.

I've always wanted to tattoo the name Jordan because it's my favorite country, but it has to be on your face. Yeah, that's why you don't want to get a sleeve because you just don't have enough space for all the names. I'm running out of real estate. Yeah, for Jordan Adika it's only. They have two middle names, I mean, shit, they don't have enough space for all of the names. Yeah for Jordan Adika it's only- They have two middle names I mean shit dude I'm gonna be sick of that. Should we all get each other's names tattooed on us?

No. Like just clockwise? No yeah but you do it first. All right you do all of our names and then we'll follow. In ranked order of who you like the most. Get a tier list on your back. Are you serious? What if I do this? I like you less when you do that. Put that lip away.

For a lot of people, there's a little bit of a feeling that you are being nurtured in a sense. The universe is about to give you a gift. Take a look. He scared himself. We haven't mentioned the word gambling yet, and I feel like we should. It is interesting. That's exactly what I thought while I was watching this. I said it a little bit.

I was like, is this gambling? Absolutely. Well, I mean, I think it's gambling in many senses, but- Gray matter-wise. But yeah, like in terms of like the dopamine and all that stuff. The short answer I would say is yes and no.

And then the long and all that stuff. The short answer I would say is yes and no. And then the long answer is that for those who are trying to make a profit, like if you are opening Pokemon cards to then sell the Pokemon cards at a profit, and so then you're buying the $3 pack in hopes, or you're opening a bunch of packs in hopes that you get the big chase card that you can sell for more than you bought the packs for,

you're gambling. But if you bought the packs for your gambling. But if you're just like getting the stuff to appreciate it, then that's just getting the stuff to appreciate it and like enjoying the hobby. It is always risky or like, um, I guess a little tiresome when people pathologize like any hobby or activity is, cause it's fun to use therapy speak or whatever online and people will default to like, uh, like I have been passionate about things and I have been obsessive about things and the obsessive is noticeable because it comes at the sacrifice of something

else. Right. I love this game. I'm playing it too much because it's keeping me in bed when I should be getting up. Like I play way less Bellatron now, not because I like Bellatron less, but because I need and want to do other things with a little bit more momentum building. And like, as far as like going to a store, buying a little thing, having a little bit of fun, open it with friends, all by yourself. You enjoy it, just doing your thing. That is,

it's so much harder to spend your kids like scholarship fund on it. You know what I mean? It's like all that college savings or lose your house as opposed to go into the horse race. Well, and you're getting, you're always getting something. It may not be the thing you want, but when you go to the slot machines machines often you're getting nothing, right? Maybe when you go, how you skill. I was watching Some of our our friends at answer in progress They have a video about this and in that video another one of our friends Maya

It makes him tune is in the video talking about how they love blind boxes So one we got to call her out on that next time she's around. And two, she was saying that she was doing maybe a meet and greet or something, and people were bringing their duplicates to her because they knew she liked... I'm like, that's cool. Because I imagine if you open a bunch of these things and you're going for the complete set, then you're going to have a bunch of extras. But I also think it's kind of fun to display. It's like a knick-knack, a tchotchke type vibe.

Well and it's like, I don't know about Labooboos, but there can be very interesting. That's funny every time, that name's nuts. I love it. It's fun to say. Makes me happy. There can be like a community aspect to it, same with like Pokemon cards and stuff,

where you're like, oh I have two of this one type, will you trade me like your blah blah blah blah for my blah blah blah blah or like. Name two Pokemon. No, I can but I just refuse to. What are your favorites just while we're on the topic? That's actually none of your business, it's private. That is rude of me.

Wait, Jacob, can we let that guy finish his thought or whatever? The psychological man. I want to hear him more. The universe is about to give you a gift. Take a look. I think it's the light or the slightly darker blue one for no reason at all except that I chose a favorite. Now what's the cost if I'm wrong? Almost nothing. I'm dead wrong. It's still fun, right? Echo will do this thing where she'll shake them and she'll be like,

People shake them. I think it's this one. And then, What if it hurts? She's right one out of 10 times. And it's so validating to her that she really thinks she's and she's gonna probably listen to this and be so mad at me that I'm saying she can't do it but I really she's gonna buy 10 of them she's gonna go into financial ruin bought and trying to predict what's coming out of the blind bottle I hope she does the Sanrio theater sex I Cause I want that Batzmaru so bad.

And I've bought that, I've bought the whole set. Stop. And have duplicates and still don't have the Batzmaru. Well, you have duplicates and I ain't got none. Give me one. I messed up. Give me one and let me like, customize it. It's also, it's also like something where all the hype around these types of things has ruined

the not only the point of collecting them at the point of Trading them like it's like Pokemon cards. It's trading card game So like trading is part of it and whenever you try to trade someone now like they whip out TCG player Yeah, like if you're if you're a vendor and your Job is to make money with Pokemon cards. That's one thing if you're like out of frank and sons type thing Which is a local card show You know, they'll trade they'll they'll pay you if you're selling them they'll pay you 80% usually like that's around because they have to Make money off of it

But if you're just trying to trade someone on Facebook Marketplace or just someone random, and some people will try to be like, oh, I traded 80% in my favor. What the fuck do you mean? What the business tyrant effect? I know what I have, actually. Yeah, and it's just like, no, we're trading. I have one that you like, you have one that I like,

let's just trade those. Who cares about the value? Yeah, like you have one I need, I have one you need. What pisses me off, well, Facebook Marketplace just pisses me off, well, Facebook Marketplace just pisses me off, but scalpers being enabled, because for example, if I go on Facebook Marketplace right now, there's a bunch of people selling Switch 2s.

Why? Switch 2 just came out. They don't have a Switch 2 they want to get rid of. I guess they just didn't like it. They bought a Switch 2 to speculate on the price going up like people did for PS5s. But the joke on them is that Nintendo made so many goddamn Switch 2s that the market price is very similar to the secondary market price. So now people are just trying to offload them at a small profit.

But then the thing that kills me is that when I was going into stores looking for one, I'm like, I missed it. But then I go on Facebook marketplace and I look at a photo of someone's trunk that's like full of switch twos and it just like puts a bad taste in my mouth. It always feels different when not to be like, think of the children, but there's always something a little extra demonic about it when it's like, all right, if you sound like a Yeti couple or something, whatever, it's like still weird, but fine. There's something just that bums me out ever so slightly when it is something that is fun. Like at its core, it's this is a fun thing. It's for fun and profit, but for fun. And then it's like, wait, was he telling me like a friend's kid knew the price of Pokemon Go? Yeah, well, not even a friend's kid. It was Big Justice.

Oh, yes. Well, you know. It was my friend AJ's kid. My friend AJ. Because he was it was like a TikTok where he was opening a pack of evolving skies. And there's this big chase card, Moonbryon, as it's colloquially known. And a very expensive card, very hard to pull, probably like one in a thousand packs or something like that.

And Big Justice opens it and he starts crying. And I'm relating to him in a way of like, when I am a child, it's so sick to like, get a card that you really like out of a pack. But then he goes, it's like a $3,000 card. And I'm like, man, that's so crazy, because when I was a kid, I didn't know the prices of the card.

We never discussed money. It was all vibes. And I am holding that, because it's like Old Man Shouts of Cloud, but it's like back in my day a little bit, I will admit that I'm doing that, but I do think that because everything is marketing, every, you know, it's like we're in a weird

economic situation, I understand people are trying to like, you know, make a buck and try to pull themselves ahead and provide and all those things, but there is another visual that is like, people waiting in line or forming a line outside of the like Pokemon aisle at Target where they're restocking so that they can buy up all the product in bulk.

That bums me out because it does, it is a denial of service for little Timmy because I can buy the cards from lots of other places but the the person who's like checking out with like when I was a kid and I would like beg my parents for like a pack of cards as we're like checking out at the store is is going to be kind of denied that experience because it's tangible it's like people are because and it's sure it's none of it matters consumers and whatever whatever whatever have a little fucking whim people are because it's none of it matters consumers and whatever, whatever, whatever, have a little fucking whimsy.

You know, it's like solely the experience. Yeah, it's like there's always a kid behind all the scalpers that is like all the scalpers get it and the kids next in line. He never gets it. There's always that always that situation. We should put it when we criticize stuff like this, it's never those people like who cares?

It's just stealing from Nintendo. Like, that's not who I'm talking about. I don't care if Nintendo gets all their switches stolen. It's the fact that it is becoming like, it's in the pursuit of making it more prohibitive for kids to end up getting it. Yeah, I mean, like, if the, if your thought is who cares consumerism, that is like

throwing the baby out with the bathwater in my view and also- It's mostly signaling. You wouldn't give a shit about LabooBoo either. Yeah, it's not. It's- I mean, I get it, like we've all been 17 and addicted to video essays, but there is a little more to it than that one Twitter thread you read and sent to friends to represent your own thoughts. There- I get it, Yeah, no ethical consumption, but

The children Like to Jarvis's point of like the switch to just came out why are you reselling it already for like double the price? like with it's the same with like Pokemon where Like I just looked up, like, Burning Shadows from the Sun and Moon era. That came out in 2017, and that right now is, like, a $15 pack. That's been out of print for, like,

five to seven years at this point. Yeah. Versus Destin Rivals, the newest set from Pokemon is selling... And Burning Shadows has a Chase Charizard in it, too. Yeah. And so it's, like, old-ass set, cool cards, about $15 a pack. Makes sense.

It's been out of print. They're not making any more. Destined Rivals, which just came out, is also selling for $15 to $20 a pack right now. Yeah, it's crazy. It came out 12 days ago. And it's already, it's like, no, why? Pokemon is in a weird bubble.

And that, in my professional opinion, it's hard to engage with the secondary market because I feel like there's a lot of hype and there's a lot of weird inflationary forces on the market. Like there's this concept in business of like the cost of user acquisition. So it's like how many, how much money does it cost to acquire a new user? And so when a company like TikTok does a thing,

what they're now doing, where it's a referral program where you get like $70 and like shop store credit for referring someone, I don't know what the referral terms are, but the idea is you have an audience or if you get enough people to sign up through your thing, you get hundreds of dollars in coupons and then are adding like fake money into this market that now artificially raises the prices of everything for everyone on the secondary market, which then creates an incentive for people to go and camp outside of Target to get the stuff at MSRP because now they can sell it for so much higher. And everyone wants to make a quick buck.

Everyone wants to take their finances and their life into their own hands and have some agency over the things. And I don't wanna be some moral, cast some sort of moral judgment on how people are doing that. I'm just observing and saying like as an individual, like what bums me out. It's such a weird space to occupy when we talk about some stuff and it's, it's we're not trying to have a moral hierarchy. That's just not our interest is, is like, like taking, uh,

making moral judgments to these things. It, the vibes are just off. And that is, that is the end of the observation. And I, it's a weird to live in an era where that's not acceptable. Like that critique is not good enough. It's like people that, uh, want the constructive criticism to solve the problem. Like, Hey, you're being very rude to people. And they're like, well, how should I be different? Like, no, it's not my job. Stop being rude. Yeah. Like you're one moment you're being very rude to people. And they're like, well, how should I be different? I'm like, no, it's not my job. Stop being rude.

Yeah, like one moment you're having fun with your friends and the next moment. You're making up a story about people that are giving you the stuff? You either can't get the thing that you and your friends were having fun with or you're actively battling for it, which is like so upsetting.

Especially because like, you know, it's funny, because I feel for Peeps more than myself in some of these situations, because I know that, you know, Peeps is a big Gen 5 head and Black Bull, White Flair is coming out and big Gen 5 set. And if the situation stays so hot, then it just makes it really hard for any normal consumer to get their hands on the product,

because everyone wants to kind of evaporate the supply that's being sold at the normal price so that they can sell it to the highest bidder. And that just feels annoying. It just feels annoying. I do think I love that psychology guy just randomly threw in a little bit of like ethereal spiritualism. All the universe is about to give you a gift. No, I spent $30.

I'm giving myself, I spent $30 on this. Then jump down and I'm like, did you get your daughter in a cereal box or what the hell? What are you talking about? down. I'm like, did you get your daughter in a cereal box? What the hell? It's kind of like, you know, I've manifested this box using my, what is it? Princess therapy? Princess vibes? Well, that's how I pulled my chase Team Rocket Mewtwo in Destined Rivals is by the princess treatment program formula. Damn it.

The juice, yeah. The Pokemon trainer formula. I believe you put your fingers to the side of your temple and then a girl came up and was like, hey, I'm not trying to date, but I just wanted to give you this guy. Yeah, that happened to me once. Someone just gave you a guy?

No, I don't know what my mom, this is back before my mom passed. It was like one of, like it was maybe like maybe six months or something before she passed. A Yugiya set called Pharaoh's Servant had just come out. And Pharaoh's Servant had a chase card Jinzo in it. Secret rare, very difficult.

There's a 50% chance that one is in a box, in a booster box of 24 packs. And I have no idea, some guy had bought a box and was opening the box at the store. I do not know what my mom said to this man, but. She handed me a ginzo that he pulled and I was like, what the heck? I couldn't curse back at the time. I said, what in the wiggity? What? I said, erm, ex-squeeze me? Ex-squeeze me? Ex-squeeze me?

Jinzo? Who turns off fricking trap cards? That's wild, he turns off trap cards and not magic cards. And then she was like wait, okay I'll take it back. No, please. But anyway, that was super, I don't know what sort of Jedi mind trick she pulled or if she just paid him under the table or something,

but I've had a soft spot for like that set and that card ever since. And that card, by the way, for those who are avid listeners is the one that someone stole from me and said that they didn't steal. And then the next time I saw it was ripped at a gutter. So that is that's why I truly wished dark things upon that person. That is a step towards becoming the Joker. That's like the two thirds through the movie. You know, it's like he's not fallen into villainy quite yet. Is walking sad, dejected, sees the card in the gutter, shakes his head.

All around me, eyes go wide. All around me are familiar jokers. All these jokers. All these jokers. They're jokers. Murder someone. Alright, speaking of collecting things, our boy Ashton Hall of morning He collects water. I was gonna say he's collecting L's right now, brother.

Hey, leave him alone. Collected four of them things. Leave him alone now. Okay. Or I'll duck you with ice I would like that my idea would wake me up next we should get 10,000 10,000 oh right next time next time we need to make so Ashton Hall famous for waking up He's so good at getting up yeah, and then I just be famous for showing speed

good at getting up. Yeah. And then I show Speed Famous for showing Speed. Maybe a generational athlete for some reason. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, you might remember we watched him chase a cheese wheel down a hill. First time he's ever done it, he almost won. They interviewed him because they were like, this young star shows promise and future Glossacher cheese rolling prowess. I think it speaks volumes about the strength of the Cotswolds and the Gloucestershire

Massive that he could really challenge the status of Olympians in some videos and yet was unable to clutch out a cheese rolling race because it's a higher tier of mindset. That does make sense. The thing that I... The reason that I wanted to watch this is because we heard from one of our teammates who watched this that Ashton Hall is like a really sore loser about it, which to me like doesn't make any sense

because I would never have, if I was asked to put money on this, I would have 100% put money on the guy who shows speed. Who's famously fast and lean and yeah, and has done this against people who do running. Yeah. You like race Noah Lyles and it's like, it's not like, like he lost, but it's, it's like very, I still thought I was very impressive. What was Ashton Hawley? He was a quarterback?

He, no, he was a, like some sort of defensive tackle or something. And I imagine I show speeds probably worse at that. It's just like a different thing. Yeah, he's built like a I mean, he was a football player and I feel like he's like leaning into that vibe. They should have Ash and Hull do cheese rolling. I mean, there's a reason why most sprinters are not super bulky. You know, they're muscly, but they're not like. Thank you. why most sprinters are not super bulky.

You know, they're muscle-y, but they're not like. Thank you. Okay, so first, I heard that before they got into the race, Asher Hall was talking some shit. Let's go. All right. Let's go, bro. Let's go, bro.

I feel like Aisha Speeds' life is like, what would happen if I wished upon a star? You know what I mean? Like at the age that I was when he popped off. Like the big Luffy thing in the back, like that would have been Goku if it were me, but same, same. My first million goes to a two scale Vegeta that can talk. Yeah.

Like is my first million. Paying a guy to be Vegeta. He has to stand in my living room. He's like the, yeah, he's the Alfred to your Batman, but it's just Vegeta. He asked for dinner, I gave him one Senzu bean. He's like, yeah, Vegeta, can you ready the Batmobile? And he goes, I was a prince! I'm like, this is awesome.

This is so cool. This is so sick. Dude, I think honestly, if I was given that degree of like power and money at that point in my life, within two weeks, I am found like dead because I accidentally got my leg trapped in my full scale X-wing. I was pretending to be Luke Skywalker

and I broke my leg. You had a horrible, you were reenacting the episode four. I was trying, I instantly trip. I'm covered in like tattoos that are backwards because I gave them to myself. A new hope too. Rogue dog. Just right across the chest.

Rogue dog. Rogue one. Rogue two. That actually would be cool. If I gotta go, I gotta go. All right, let's watch this. Bro, you don't weigh enough, bro. Let's get it popping, bro.

What do you mean you don't weigh enough? You don't weigh enough, bro. Hey, we're muscle just for soul, bro. Who the stage has? I gotta go alright. Let's watch this Yeah, I'm in marketing, but I really like my career so far, but I'm keeping my options up in the future What do you do? I I wear sunglasses and hold the cell phone in front of my shirt enormous guy Why does he look like agent Smith holding the fucking cell phone? He looks sick. Honestly, he looks like a candid. Do they know he's there? Maybe he thinks he's out of frame.

There's no way. This is probably he's getting thousands and thousands of followers a second for standing within frame. This is huge for the thing. if I'm Ashton Hall, this is, and I'm not exaggerating, one of the biggest moments of my career. I would not come in and argue with that to a show. I'd be like, oh thank you. No, because it's like, first of all,

people don't realize how huge I show speed is. It's like, transcendent. First of all, he's like 40 million subscribers, but also like, he's giganto and like world famous at this point. It's like I like getting more eyes on him now than he ever has before. For sure.

And a totally like new. It's like how like we, it gets easy to be like kind of centric about like art and what you consume and stuff. And it's like when I think when Bad Bunny got, he was the most listened to artist in the Americas in whatever year. And then a bunch of English people were like, who the fuck is that?

And I'm like, well, there's more other people. There's more people that aren't here than are here. Just because you don't know someone doesn't mean everyone else knows. Most people don't live here. I'm so embarrassed. I remember I was in Puerto Rico for a wedding and there was like a billboard or something for Bad Bunny

or he was playing somewhere. And I was like, that's a funny name. And then people were like, no, he's like, he's really good. And I was like, oh, okay, I haven't heard of him. And then he's like the most world famous musician ever. Ronald Reagan? It was like that next, the next day, Okay, I haven't heard of him and then he's like the worst most world's best musician ever Ronald like like It was like that next the next day It was like he was the biggest act in the universe, but then he hit him with you

I've seen it by the way does I sure speed always shoot at a Dutch angle. This is it's very Tilted and is he always? No shirt no shoes. You know the rumors. I think he is not not often no shirt no shoes. No, the rumors just said that. I think he is not, not often no shirt, no shoes. Okay, let's continue. And he does have a flash. Look, you're arguing with the dude who's got the flash logo on his gaming chair. Oh, fuck, yeah. So sick. The chair is fast. And his, and his, and his...

Dude, this is actually so sick. It's a soccer pitch. I know, and he literally, it looks like the wristless bedroom. He has the World Cup, he has his kit in the back. Dude, he is living the dream. And I think he, and maybe I'm not to glaze him, but I do think he's appreciating the moment. Oh, definitely.

He's also being, he's tasteful where he needs to be because me, there's a functional diesel powered F1 bed instead of that mattress. I would be extremely uncomfortable That is his work bed, yeah, yeah, he doesn't he only sleeps there when he's on cameras poser All right. All right. Let's let's see this arguing. I don't want to do this. I'm gonna walk away I'm not the dust his ass. This is last Instagram video It's so last to get a video. It's been a such an iconic eye contact Like he has his eye contact is like the profile of the Queen It's the face that birthed a thousand reaction means it is he is like thumbnail in Connor. Yeah, kind of cool

You should never did it see yourself you don't get it It's probably honestly, it's where you just like ice cream and yet he's still in town So if you just sugar speed juice Speed fuel Trying to speed up. Okay, so there were four races, right? There are four races. We can start with race one I think I know how that one ends at the finish line

Oh my god Devastating he just ashton fell but he woke up so early falls during race one He said he didn't need to warm up. He must have fallen. He must have woken up late. I wonder if they switch up the um terrain Yes, I show speeds bedroom has this He must have woken up late. I wonder if they switch up the terrain. Yes. I show Speed's bedroom has this. This is like, this is like, if I'm playing tennis against Nadal on a clay court, like I better not even try.

Honestly, I would let, I would pass probably. If I was against LeBron, but I get an entire team and he's asleep. Yeah, I was gonna say, but if I'm playing Nadal in chess at my house and he's blindfolded. And I'm playing with knives. then maybe I've got a shot. You lose. What?

I hit a pothole, man. Let's get it. You're gonna fry, bro. Let's get it. You hit a pothole? Yeah. Okay. No more excuses.

I can see I fell. Yeah, you were. You fell over. You were dusted. You didn't finish the ring? He said he hit a pothole. Oh, okay. It's my last one.

I'm gonna expose him again, chat. I didn't even roll full speed. He's getting exposed again. He's like, I barely showed speed in this. I was like- Ashton, buddy, you ran too early. Oh my god. Wait, no, they're both barefoot?

When he starts talking, that's how you know. And he puts his arms out. I think some stoicism, like a little bit of self-soothing and a little bit of stoicism is healthy. And it's always kind of funny when somebody that is like banked and bought in on ultimate rice grain lifestyle, masculine mode, high T, is insecure. That's like, that's the moment you lose it. That's the thing, right?

He could look like anything. He could behave in any other way, but that that is the lethal bullet. The thing is this, this could have been friendly competition, like a little bit of shit talking, but like mostly it's just like this could have been friendly competition, like a little bit of shit talking, but like mostly it's just like, we're, you know, we're just having fun, right? But when it be like, I don't know,

there's just something so toxic about this and how it's handled rather than, you know, it's like, this doesn't emasculate you, but you think it does. And that's why. They're playing two different games a little bit. He's that, iShowSpeed is being iShowSpeed, Ashenhole is being an Instagram page.

Yeah. All right, let's hear what he says. Oh. Second one, you barely beat me. So run it again. Do I gotta beat you? Yes. The first one. I slip. I'm curious, like how they get to the fourth race based on this discussion. I don't get it. I don't know. I mean, you know, I have a, you know, resting heart rate of 9000 that I do. I run for like eight feet and then I call the

police to come and rest for doing a bad job. But you just thought you can't being a sore loser might be the most painful trait because it hurts you. You know, it's like still trying to like peer through the performance of it or the stage-ness of it because I don't think it's staged. But obviously he's like, it's performing because they're in front of chat. so I'm like, but it is not a good look Even for the performance, so I'm bad idea Bad swing now. I'm like playing No, no, I'm playing a sore loser What's last surface? Just right on the road.

Last one we get out of here. Barefoot? That way I got no excuses. They gotta be barefoot. Let's do it. Look at that, he has his YouTube at the bottom. Interesting that he says it has to be barefoot. He's a purist.

He's making every excuse in the world. He is indeniable, bruh. I hate that they're running barefoot on Blacktop. It's gonna be hot. Hot, hot, hot, hot, hot. And rip up your little feetsies. Wow, I think Speed has like high callus power. Well, that's the cavemen actually built up calluses

on their feet when they ran on the pavement. Did you know that? They ran on the street pavement. The original sidewalk. Yeah. The saber tooth went loud on it. Yeah, it was made of saber tooth tiger teeth. There were cars everywhere.

And there were cars. Well, the Flintstones. Oh, no, look out. Yeah, they were propelled by feet. Dude Oh, that's how his feet must have been jacked up. Yeah, he had crazy feet. Fred Flintstone? Happy feet bro. Dude. No free feet dude that only fans would have went crazy Running slow-mo What? False start? Oh he's false start I guess. Oh my god, he's still got it. I know

y'all on his team, but get off his dick. Oh, they're his little team? No wonder they're dressed like that. That makes sense. He's a quieter harem of little filming fellas. It's okay to not like be good at everything. Also Asher Hall, he's gonna be fine because the whole internet's been making fun of him and he's just kind of leaned into that. Yeah, actually he's done a lot much better job than Bondali's McGillicuddy or whatever that musician guy was called.

Oh, we'll get to him, we'll get to him. So wait, let's watch this. You got three new, bro? I'm leaving, bro. The first one? You lost all three. Listen, listen, the first one. You lost all three. This is actually starting to become funny. So we try to manipulate y'all. This is a good improv.

This has turned into good improv. He's doing it now. I want to I don't know what he's going to say for his third excuse, but I do like the idea of him being like, all right, the first one, I slipped. The second one, you got me by a little bit. The third one, a little fairy tripped me. I saw. I don't know if you spotted it There was a ghoul you actually stopped time and got a few extra steps on me

And I think that was unfair. I thought we were going the other way In improv terms he found his game and now he's hiding it and I'm having fun with that game At least I hope I actually don't know what he's gonna say Like the happy and sad drama masks. The footage, the video footage will come out. Listen, listen. The video footage will come out. The second one?

I so do not see my fucking, my fucking body language as I keep being, he's gonna keep making up excuses. If you were faster, if you were faster, I wouldn't wanna race again. Yeah, let's do an 11th round, 12th. Wait, that is wrong. That logic is wrong. If you were faster, I wouldn't wanna race again.

No, you wanna race again because you want to do better. When would you want to stop racing? Would you ever stop? Yeah, why would you want to keep racing if you were winning? Because then you would have a risk of losing and you'd have a perfect record. I'm faster and that's why I keep losing. Yeah, I'm going too quick around the whole world.

Would you beat me in a race probably? I'm so tired. I'm so tired. I'm so tired and my back hurts. Beep, beep, are you quick on your, I've never seen you run. Decent. If I sprint, I can be pretty fast, but like not. I can see you like a whippet.

I think we all have pain, back pain. So we shouldn't be jogging. I don't move or exercise enough to have the stamina is the thing I'm no stamina whatsoever. What if I javelin do you like I pick you up and I throw you to get 60 feet off that Oh, that'd be sick. All right discus. That'd be awesome Okay, I have a little I don't I can't show speed but I have I've got a little speed. I have speed I do I do contain it. I own speed It's only when no one's watching you can't show it. Well can't show that amount of speed, but I can show some respectable speed

I don't know where to put mine. I think Ashen Hall would be me in a race, but I could show some respect. I'm shy I don't want to show speed How does he can I do want to hear this because this part is the part I'm most curious about which is like his cope Yeah Honest my child is always honest you lost three times fuck him I don't even know him oh wait look at him stand up oh look out

he's like first one over there says I won 85 pounds ready to take you on speed he's like I took off my sunglasses for this moment I've been watching MMA come at me I got the angles gang gang, you lost. Let's fucking go again. You know what's crazy about,

I don't know if Ashton Hall's team is the same as his team before he blew up because now this is a bit of a, this is just an attempt at a read. Those guys all look like they slid in his DMs, like let's work, clap emoji. Gary V Cold DM slider vibes. I've actually got access to a lot of verticals. I think you might be finding helpful

I would love to do ready to work. Let's get it. That's literally today, bro. Go crazy It's every dollar a year Work for free cuz I'm in my grind set I will fill your bowl with ice whenever you need me. I will tell you, you won the race, brother. You will stand up against me. I will stand up against speed. So he just got fatigued. He's like, fine, I'll just do it. He threw his phone down or whatever that was.

But he walks at my running speed. Go! Yes, dude, so far ahead. Anywhere before me again. Tell them to stop playing me, bro. Speed game. Bye. Oh, what?

What happened to Ashton? He died? Saratoga! He picked up the Saratoga. Oh, he took his Saratoga. Go home, bro. Ashton, go home. Dude, that's like when you beat somebody in Yu-Gi-Oh and you get their rarest car.

You get to take that best water. Yeah. Does Ashton say anything after that? Well, he's been, the arc's over. He's been defeated. He's like, what if we a fifth time? Dang! I lost in front of my whole team. Bro. You tripped. It was different.

If it would have been a normal run, we would have had the cars. Man, bump that. He beat me. Okay. Okay. What was the excuse they were trying to say? Like if there hadn't been a car or something like that, if it had been a normal race or speed wasn't driving that car, he probably could have hadn't showed speed. He would have totally won. He thought it was a K Kai Sinapp He like read the name wrong Oh, speed you said? They still doing stuff together? Who? Kai and uh, speed?

Uh yeah, Kai's in the video at the end The end there He like interviewed him or something You keep up with the latest trends Hey, hey, he don't get it Bro you have to stop, bro you have to stop giving niggas a second chance What? We got one more thing we want to look at before I got a run you've soy

You're gonna run it's a foot race to where you're going. Yeah Unfortunately to make it on time. I will have to show speed And then the doctor is gonna be like no no no let me try again, so we talked about Brendan Abernathy So we talked about Brendan Abernathy. That's it, not Bendo McGillicuddy. Yeah, who? I've been calling him that all week, I don't know why. Olivia on Instagram was like, Brendan Abernathy update. She was at a boys like girls concert

and they brought out Brendan Abernathy to quote unquote redeem himself. That's awesome. And he does it, you better not stomp on the ground. Yeah, actually, like I don't know what happens in this video. Dude, he's about to own Fantana. He's about to absolutely destroy him. Sounds like, uh, The Killers now. Yeah, you're right.

Oh, stumps. I've seen some stumps. I'm the kid who got it all wrong. And this is my stuff, one day I'll write a love song. All right. Honestly? I mean, it sounded the same to me, which is, I mean, but go off. Take your opportunities.

You'll have a kid on the way in three, is that true? I feel like the stomps were smaller I feel like he somehow put more vibrato in there. Yeah I think what he needs to do is just move on and make another That would be the life hack here. I think okay Look, I think if like a like if a band is like we're gonna put you in front of this many people To do your thing. I don't know what the right decision is, but I understand why he did it.

And why not? Definitely that. But that honestly is the best. I don't know if I'm going to call it a clap back, but that's like the best repost. Whatever. Like instead of like, no way, man. Oh, wait, let me run it again. That's the best Touche on guard

Perry what's another more scone? I'm so glad no one can tell him insecure Pants a CPA like he's a He's an accountant Penis Penis I just think the coolest thing you can do is just do the song and do your grind like that is a cool move No, and have like a bigger band be like hey come come That's cool

There are people who like his music good for him I don't think there's any problem with this I think it's neat as long as you don't sign with Jake Paul's management and do a crypto rogue pull my good You've cursed him. It's happening then Then you're going to be just fine. We already did this to hook to her. Yeah, we tried, but she didn't listen. How many people can we root for and then watch them crash and break? Every time it's just like, we, that's why the back ass has to get bigger so we can,

these people can hear our advice. They can heed our warning. I give a shout out, I guess, I mean, we should mention mention recording this in 2019 I want to give a shout out to just like America you know it's like so sick we're on the top right now I'm gonna give a shout out to vaccines in general yeah vaccines are doing great looking forward to that being always an option immediately 2019 yeah, oh Cuz everything's going great everything was really good then Being nostalgic about 2019 is so funny Remember all the years it was most years by the way where everybody was like this is one of the worst years ever trash fire year

2016 I remember people were like this one sucks Never gonna let that happen again Lol dude we could be at brunch if Kamala was president right now Did if we had a mama if we had a mama right now we could be eating brunch and not thinking about politics Which is the perfect thing? Not thinking about politics, which is the perfect thing. Yeah, which is the same as the world getting better Mama lala on that note on that positive note on that positive note We end every episode of sad boys with a particular phrase and

You can I can't I probably can't keep talking I'm gonna stop there while I'm ahead and say that we on patreon we talked about love island and dating shows and we had a grand old time and we looked at bad tattoos I showed my new tattoo and it's hidden you can't see it big tattoo reveal we had a rabies so he's pretty cool free If you want to find people with poor judgment To put on your television show look no further than the types of tattoos that they have. Yes, I want to see these Pull up the love Island Tattoos. Oh that looks so much worse than even what you just. Yeah.

This one jumps out to me specifically because it's not the most famous quote from that movie. Exactly. I think it's deep and cool. Look in that future girl future girl. Yeah, we are now take my money go away Go to which?