Sad Boyz - Mandela Effect Conspiracies

Episode Date: March 29, 2024

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Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. FM 21 in the radio evening. Sad Boys 96.9. 69.69. Sorry, I'm drunk. I don't remember the... I'm wasted. Do you ever do tradition radio, you reckon? Someone came along and they're like, once a week, radio play. Probably not not but it's cool and i respect it sway in the morning new host okay hold on do i get to have rappers come on and do um freestyles yeah and they have to it goes for too long and it's like we tell them we have to wrap it up dude okay those freestyles feel a little bit

like um those interviews that like uh gQ or whatever do where it's like, Timothy Chalamet looks at Google searches about himself. And there's always that part where they get out like a fourth board. He's like, okay, this is a little longer than I thought. Yeah, okay. Does Timothy Chalamet eat oranges? I don't know why that is so Googled. I mean, I guess they're not like a favorite fruit of mine.

We are on the 30th most. Oh oh two more hours and one of them are interesting actually one more get slimed i do think you should i should have edited this like before we filmed for two hours god that must that must be exhausting like waking up at six eight like five.m. or whatever to go over to the GQ office and do 20 interviews where it's all games. Like try British snacks. Have you seen the, there was a video that went viral recently of Miley Cyrus talking about her schedule when she was like filming Hannah Montana.

And it was like 6 a.m. wake up, do 30 interviews, then do like a meeting and then film something and it was like oh my god we are working these children to the bone god dude that's like any friend we've had like used to play on like a college football team like cody was like that oh yeah talk about his schedule he would literally one of our favorite people ever a friend cody used to play for usc was so get up and go i don't know if he had to sleep at all because he would describe his day as uh hey i asked him for like advice one time like how do

i establish a routine what do you do because he's also jacked and i was like what's this like he's like uh well bro the thing is is you've got to find a rhythm that works for you so me my comfort zone and i have friends that do a little and what's really easy and natural for me yeah and that's just me i have friends that like really put in the work me i wake up at 4 35 a.m yeah uh i read for an hour right for sure that was the one that i read meditate i do like that goku thing where he's like fighting in his mind it feels like a day to me but it is in fact only an hour right uh i'm like a half elf where i don't really sleep it's more of like a meditation i hit him with one of these every time i sleep oh i'm staring um yeah and then and then

i gotta hit the gym then he gotta do gotta do the strength day carbo load and then it's time for nine hours at work i eat the i eat italy in terms of carbo loading and then he would just i you know i know i know your stamina would increase over time and you'd climatize or whatever but like i feel like the the max on my tank is pretty small like i'm working to get to max right now i'm like the first generation of electric cars where they like drove for like 10 miles and everybody was like yay this is cisco look at it go deactivating help yeah it makes it down the street and they go wow history is being made right now we're so proud of you it's literally like if i was like hey cody i want to i'm first one not sponsored and secondly cody i can fill

up to about here right now but i'm having some chronic fatigue and i should be working out more and stuff a baby talking about his first six steps before he falls back down into a crawl. And he just goes like, oh, the thing is, here are some tips on how you can get here. And then he describes a routine that overflows hundreds of times over. Oh, Mr. Hat. Oh, no. Mr. Falling off hat. I didn't.

The hat is always code for I didn't do my hair. Sir. Howdy. I have, okay. Well, I have so much respect for college athletes, but also I feel like we have to recognize how much we are working them too hard. They don't get paid, right?

Well, so this has been a thing like in NCAA sports, like they historically have not been able to make any money uh there's been various scandals like where people's awards like Heisman trophies and shit have been taken away because they like signed autographs on the side to make like a quick buck because literally why are you allowed to take a trophy away i won i did it it's over who cares i think that happened to reggie bush usc like 2003 you actually like a bino dude i'm just i'm just throwing out numbers you no longer were the best actor yeah you actually were worse you were using performance enhancing drugs with that act with that acting performance but uh yes so imagine a world where you are forced

to not forced but you go to you get a scholarship and it's like okay cool and they're like this scholarship is for your education now you're going to be working out from 6 a.m to 6 p.m every day it conflicts with every one of your classes. You are not going to be able to go to your classes. You're going to fail all your classes. Why aren't you focusing on your education? You can't make any money. But the exposure that you won't get.

The exposure of giving your body to a school that's paying their coach millions of dollars. And there's TV deals where the school is making millions and millions of dollars off of your likeness and then your body and your performance on the team. And then you might not even be... And then the upside is maybe you become a famous player. And then the mega upside is that you maybe go professional yeah that's like it's like all of those needs and demands on behalf of the team

and then like but if you happen to be one of the greatest athletes ever born yeah then there might be more after this yeah uh there's like 450 players in the NBA total. And there are more players in March Madness, in the March Madness tournament. And then, God forbid, there's like a couple dozen who join the NBA. Like an MLM. Yeah, dude. Not everyone can win.

Stop telling them that. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's as if, it's as if like NBA playersba players at least to my knowledge or professional athletes do the just just hustle harder and then you can i'm sure they recognize that some people are not born seven foot four you know what i mean um i just said the thought by the way i don't know if you have the same experience i wonder if people could tell early on if they're watching the video version of the podcast whether it's an episode with Anastasia on it by the fact that we look at it.

We always look at Anastasia. We were just hanging out for like an hour before the show and so on instinct I'm like having a conversation directionally. Am I right? Should we set up an Anastasia cam where it's like from above?

Yeah, it's like a security cam. Yeah, it scans left and right. It's like, it's from above. Have like a, yeah, it's like a security cam. Yeah. It scans left and right. I'm in the corner. It's like a fisheye lens. It looks like a nineties music video where you're like, you're looking into the lens. It might be good.

Cause you know, I'm often like laughing and nodding silently. And so if you need to cut for reaction. Yeah. Anastasia cam, but no Jacob cam. No. The mystery has to remain. No one is allowed

to truly know what you guys see. What if we do Jacob Kim as a VTuber? Your code Mika? Mika, yeah. What setup do we need? We'll figure this out. Or dramatic recreation. We'll figure this out. What if I'm in a separate room in a little box?

Yeah, like on like Howard Stern or something. And you're like, I wish it wasn't a job. You're like doing one of these. It wasn't like a job. It was in that vein. It was job recall. Jay Obrey mode.

And it was about the history of howard stern and you know rise to fame plateau uh yeah that's uh that's uh patrick cc yes indeed shout out shout out patrick cc friend of the show friend of not really but like i like patrick cc we've dm'd before i can't remember what about i don't know if i can find a mind bell. Let me tell you that much. It's pumping and popping off recently. He was mean to Howard. But he talks about it and I was. I have a conversation about your thumbnail, sir. Sometimes the narratives do not illustrate things I agree with, sir. He's shaking so much.

He's a knife? You should start using a butterfly knife. That would be cool. Just flicking it around during the show. Like with the Chess and the Sharks, you know? Why doesn't Katie post those videos where she like... She put paws on it. She's not in the butterfly game right now.

I see. Doxed. Sorry. I don't know if that's public information, but she's scared. Yeah. She's a big baby. She lost too many fingers. She's down to her last few.

How are you doing? I'm good. Wrong answer. I'm bad. Right answer. I'm fine. I'm great. Okay.

Things are not good for me. One eye's crying. Yeah, just one eye. I'm the, that like emoji. I was walking on the sidewalk in the park, right? And someone had their dog on a long leash that was tied to their car door. Whoa. And the dog started running at me and barking at me.

Big dog? Yeah. It was like a Doberman. And I was like, maybe if you know your dog is like that, don't have them unattended tied to a car door. Tied to the handle? The handle. Which feels like it could just open the door.

The only part designed to open it? Yeah. I don't know. It didn't seem very well thought out. But then, so the dog, like, because the dog ran out and it, the car was parked on the sidewalk or excuse me, the car was parked next to the sidewalk on the curb, off the curb against the curb. You know how parking is. And, and, and wheels and cars and dogs. I was, I was walking on the sidewalk and I didn't really,

like I saw the leash, but it wasn't, I like just was, I was absentmindedly walking on the sidewalk at the park, you know, like. And so I realized I was approaching a leash and then like the leash goes taut. And I was like, wait, what? And then I started, I like stepped over the leash because it was taut and far away from me.

But then the dog was mad that I walked over the taut leash that was blocking the i should have just walked out into the road is what i should have done because on the right was the dog and on the left was the car so could the dog have just looped around and gone like into the road though sure because that absolutely that's so dangerous there's not really anything stopping the dog from doing that. Yep. It's basically just not on a leash. Yeah, pretty much. Maybe the dog was mad that you disrespected it

by stepping over it. I should have asked. I should have limboed under it. It's like when an NBA player steps over someone. Right. It's disrespectful. Yeah, I did like a Draymond Green or whatever. Or a Ty Lue, Allen Iverson situation.

This dog had very poor court decorum. Bad b-ball IQ. So the dog started barking at me. And then I'm obviously comfortable with dogs, but you never know with someone else's dog what they're capable of. Especially with someone that, I don't know, this doesn't seem like a very effective dog owner to be talking.

So I kind of put my arms up because i didn't want anything to be like grabbable and then i looked into the window of the car and there's somebody just standing there like this and just like not just avoiding eye contact with me because they heard their dog they just don't want a dog do you know what i mean i feel like i've known a handful of people like that where they get it enthusiastically or whatever, and they realize they don't like walking, training, feeding, hanging out with, or really doing anything with a dog. But they invest in it like you would like an NES.

And they're like, I don't really, I'm just going to play PS5. I get it. Like some days, you know, I'll be lower energy and I'll like take my dog to the park where it's a dog park and it's actually the place where dogs are supposed to go. You tie them to like a motorcycle or something? Yeah, I go to the dog park, but I tie my dog to the fence so he can't really move.

I'd go to the construction site. I tie it outside the fence of the dog park onto the sidewalk so that when people walk by he gets anxious and i want to make sure to put a treat on the other side of the street so he runs directly into the center of the highway which i'm on but i get it like sometimes i'm like oh i'm low energy so i'm going to go to the dog park and just sit and then and then just like make sure he's good or even if i don't go to the dog park i'll like sit in the yard and like have him like run around and just make sure i'm supervising but in all the situations you are also the highest effort dog owner I've ever known you put in like a lot of work and you're good I'm supervising yeah because

that's the whole thing with dogs is that they're not like independent citizens sometimes I'm so tired and I take my kids to the park and it's like you figure it it out, dog. Yeah, sometimes, yeah, I run into a dog at the store and they're like, my owner sent me here for some cigs. They can't be bothered. Dogs are notoriously pack animals. They don't want to just be alone, tied to a car. They're pack animals

in that they get me a pack of cigarettes from the corner store. Four miles away. They're allowed to use the car. So, I don't't smoke by the way that was a joke about a fictional person they're dogs i'm allergic actually your dog's over 18 in dog years so yeah exactly there we go is it it's 18 here as well for cigarettes yeah weirdly who's 21 oh it's 21 now wow nationally wow jacob's puffing on that devil's lettuce sounds like yeah that's like the the words of somebody who's freshly 21 um it's 21 now yo oh fuck this hurts oh dude my lung is

turning black um i had a funny dream so you know like MLK like quirky MLK I had a funny dream so if someone texts you I had a dream about you I feel like there's certain thoughts that come through your head about that right so I knew this

ahead of time when I texted our friend Mayuko because I had a dream that mayuko was a important piece of but she was not in the dream um and it was the most stressful dream i've ever had the dream was that i had misplaced her phone in a drawer and i couldn't find it. And I, the dream was literally just me opening drawers and going, I know it's in here somewhere. Were you having the like,

the, there's an endless number of drawers. I don't, I can't remember. Like there were more details to the dream while it was happening, but I can't remember them all now, but there were just many a drawer. And I kept being like, no, this isn't it.

And then I just kept being like, oh, she's going to be home soon. And I've lost her phone. Who am I at her house? I don't, that was not a question that crossed my mind. So I texted her in the morning and I was like, listen, I had a dream about you, but it's not what you think. You weren't in the dream. Did you get this text?

But your phone is missing. She was like, I have my phone. Don't worry. I was like, okay, thank God. It is a little weird, but at the same time, oh, I would feel so bad. Oh, if I lost someone's phone. Ugh, the guilt.

I don't know what to do. If I lose my phone, it's gone. What a pain. The secret I'm revealed on the show, this is the second recording since, but I think during the Tommy episode, maybe, I left my wallet and AirPods. My AirPods are tracked here. They should be, but I have not been able to find my wallet,

and I'm having an issue of not being able to remember what I own. That's my old ones I found, thankfully. Only one works. What the heck heck but both charged okay these ones um it's just nasty they i was going through tsa one time ew nasty and i dropped them and they just flew out oh yeah and i just kind of wiped my shirt i mean hey we live in a society you have to sometimes. What are you going to do?

Not listen to anything? Yeah, what? Stay with my own thoughts. No shot. For 20 minutes. Not a chance. What are we going to do? Play Marvel Snap?

I'm lost, dude. I'm in it. I'm in it. Oh, you are? I've been thinking about it. Don't do it. Because you know, you know. It's just another thing.

You know I was a Hearthstone bastard. It is a really nice, slightly less, there is meta, but it's a slightly less intensive version of Hearthstone and the games are shorter. Well, here's the thing. The lead game designer of Hearthstone, Ben Brode, is the lead game designer of Marvel Snap. What a hack.

You get a new idea, you know what I mean? And they started Second Dinner dinner i think is the name of the development company uh after leaving blizzard and i do love ben brode or at least like me me as of you know 2014 jarvis who was a big hearthstone head loved that man because i would just watch all of his updates and pay attention to like the meta and i got legend you know like every season and stuff and i was almost top 100 north america but i played dog on stream would you say almost yeah literally it was like at the end of the legend season and i played one of the biggest hearthstone streamers on stream and i found out he was streaming uh because i was just like i was

watching his stream and then i queued up against him and then i closed the tab because i i'm not going to stream snipe uh but then i lost the game so it's oh i better not have stream snipe i lost the game and then i went back and i looked at the oh like the chat the tape and it was like oh people were making fun of me like crazy. They're like, why would he do that? And I was like, I was nervous. Okay. I can't see the cards. And I, that was like, I was, you know, a hundred and I was ranked like 120, uh, in the North American legend ladder. And I tanked after that to like 200 something. I, I closed up shop.

Didn't didn't end up. I really wanted to get on the blog posts. Cause if you hit top 100 legend you get posted the hundred players we like yeah not that was gonna be pathetic but anyway i am winding down on boulderscape i'm winding down and by winding down i mean i am on act three of my honor mode playthrough winding down this playthrough and i'm winding down this playthrough and i might i kind of want to play dragon's dogma just because people are talking about it right now oh forewarned i'm getting a refund i bought on ps5 because i want to oh i heard ps5 is rough runs like i think that's unacceptable now i don't think you can drop sub

20 fps on a console now yeah i don't think that i think that's i think that's fair now i don't think you can drop sub 20 fps on a console now yeah i don't think that i think that's fair on the re engine the best optimized engine that exists right now yeah i i know they're i know they're fixing that uh most of the people who are like enjoying it are pc players so i'd definitely be playing it yeah it's been a lot of them um but but yeah and then also yeah so anyway i might play that a little bit. Good Steam Decker. I know. I ordered a Steam Deck.

Maybe just arrived? Maybe. I'll find out after the show if that just arrived. But yeah, I'm looking for my next obsession. I kind of a little bit, maybe just a tad, want to play the older Boulder games. Or kind of just slightly, maybe just a tad, want to the older boulder games or kind of just slightly maybe just a tad want to play like divinity original sin but yeah um i did just start playing original sin 2 again it it is really good okay it's the it's you know i wish it did have the kind of intimacy of the

uh shot reverse shot camera and like the voice acting but i think the definitive edition they did add voice acting. Yeah, I've heard it's all voice acted, at least DOS 2. So you will notice the first two hours is the same game. Oh, yeah, the shipwreck thing. I didn't know about that. The beach is the same shape. It's cool.

I don't mind. Yeah, I mean, whatever. It's cute. The sad news about Baldur's Gate is that, it's sad and glad, I mean, whatever. It's cute. The sad news about Boulder's Gate is that, it's sad and glad, I guess, is it was announced at GDC that Larian is not producing DLC for Boulder's Gate. They are still doing patches

and they are still doing some cut scenes, some like evil ending cut scenes stuff. But they started working on a DLC patch and then, or DLC update, and then their heart wasn't in it. And then also the streets are saying that they don't want to work with WotC, which I totally get.

Fair enough. Because WotC has been just a badly run company that like just the stuff that they do with Magic the Gathering, where they're like bleeding their consumers dry. And they're layering, to be fair, where they're bleeding their consumers dry. They're larian, to be fair. The public says it's not the case, but that's diplomacy.

That's very, so would I, if I were in that situation. Sven Wienke seems like he's an upstanding guy who wouldn't professionally burn any bridges, but I personally am theory-crafting the narrative that why would you ever want to, you make the most popular game, one of the most popular games of the year, the most critically acclaimed game of the year, and then you cut a $100 million check to Wizards of the Coast,

who you hate working with. Yeah, they get very good. And you're like, all right. And they're like, not good at this game sucks. But that was a thing where they were like, so Sven Vinca, the CEO and founder sven vinka the the ceo and founder of larian was uh or the president founder i don't know if he's ceo but anyway um he should be the president he should be the president in his armor suit uh he he said that um you know the boulders

gate characters are now in the you know the hands of wizards of the coast and they'll they'll i'm sure they'll they understand the weight and they'll handle them with care and then everyone's eyes collectively rolled because no fucking shot is that happening he makes up gail and carlick gail's big hot heart yeah yeah yeah gail has to go to avernus to uh avenge mistra oh, a tadpole entered you. You might become a watcher. Oh, okay. I guess, yeah. Oh, you could become a mind layer.

Oh, dude, don't even get on the Nautilus. The naughty boy. The Nautiloid. Yeah, we've sort of been talking about maybe we do a little playthrough. We can talk about yeah i would i would uh i would dust off my old spell my gloves um and get into it um yeah i'm you know what's funny about this honor mode playthrough is that there have been a few like close calls and a few like really hard things but it's only because I wasn't paying attention.

It's frustrating that it wasn't the game's fault. I feel you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ah, shit. And I'm like, okay. Because now it feels like a foregone, like I'm sure it's definitely possible that I make a stupid mistake. Like for example, I failed the defend the portal mission

for like the first time because i was doing uh i was like doing an icy surface thing and trying to basically make everybody fall prone so i could do crowd control easier and i myself succeeded in a way yeah yeah and i didn't and i'm like if i thought about this for two seconds i could have prevented i could have put on boots that prevented me from falling prone. And so things like that where I'm like, okay, whatever. But in general, I used strong builds because I didn't want to take any fucking chances. There's no honor in...

I mean, I wouldn't feel any better if I were doing it making it hard on myself for no reason so i want this uh week's worth of hours to be worthwhile exactly that's the thing and then i looked at my hours and it's like 38 hours on this playthrough which is like much less than i thought and then i also realized that i rushed into act three because i was just so over it um and it's like not it's not the game's fault it's just like i have now gone through these motions so much and i don't feel the like novelty and act two is just my least favorite it's great i mean the game's great but it is the it's not very fresh on replays but then i wanted and this is again my own fault is that uh i started playing around with with reverberation builds and radiating orb builds.

And I have a decent Shadowheart build for that, but a few key items are in Act 2. And I didn't think until I went to Act 3 that I was going to try to actually go hard into that build. And so I locked those off and I'm like, well, I didn't need them, but that was going to be a fun little experiment. And now I don't have that. There's a few things where I'm like, okay, well, this isn't meant to be the playthrough where I 100% everything. Because I've already kind of seen everything that I want to see. But yeah. So I just started Act 3, and I've just been, like, just grinding to level 12 so that I can just kind of speed run

into the game. Hopefully. Hopefully I win. I do think the final boss is easier than, like, a lot of the boss. Like, I think I'm more stressed out about Orin. Oh, my God. The dirge version of Auryn. I'm actually more stressed about the non-Durge version

because the skellies and also she's going to have Slayer form and then there's the untouchable or whatever it's called. She ain't getting Slayer form in my run, bro. I'm murdering left and right what is the what is the oh a legendary uh no no the um the thing where you can't do any damage you have to five hits or whatever but she has it for 12 and so and then i'm like okay am i gonna have to like do like a magic missile build or something to like knock those off as quickly as possible or like what's my game plan and is she then going to teleport behind me literally teleport behind me and then seven stabs instant i know dude the

fucking that pisses me off okay anyway um i'm iced on it it is i gave my ps5 to katie for an extended period now do i have to get my pc? Because I do. I'm not deliberately on solo yet. But I think I've been getting visa anxiety about long-term stuff where, you know, when my last one was, you know, getting close to the end of it or whatever, there were a few, I wouldn't say regrets, but there were a few like, I really wanted to have a car by now and I really wanted to get back in the gym by now and I'm getting so close now that I don't want to invest my time

in stuff that would be habitual because what's the point? I don't want to do DIY. What's the point if I'm not here? So now I'm taking a little break, including to just play other videos. I know. That's my other thing. It's like I want to get around to other stuff. I'm not going to not go back.

I'll shoot my shots plus like if other people if like i was gonna play with other people or stuff like that then that's the thing but i'm like in terms of my own solo experience the one experience i still want to have is doing um uh solo tactician dirge run i think it'd be really fun to do like an assassin like gloomstalker assassin solo build where i'm just constantly invisible and killing people outside of combat like that would be fun and i haven't done that yet i haven't done any solo runs yet and that would be fun but that's like maybe that's a tinkerer that's like when i like kind of come to every now and again you know when you uh you reach peak meta yeah your brain is expanded to

squish against just go yeah yeah um but i even didn't take the the enhanced tadpole this time i was like i'm already too strong i'm already the king i'm already too strong i don't need this i'm gonna stay pretty actually yeah and i'm playing it as Origin Will, which is fun. I fucking love Origin Gale. Yeah. It's so fun. And he's fun to be. Because you have your cat.

And my kitty cat. And I also just like the upbeat Gale. I think he's like an interesting, conflicted character to be. I feel the same way kind of about Laizel but ultimately the laizel path is i i like i would i've done so much with gal now that i've heard all his lines in all communities yeah whereas laizel i've never done the i've never made her a religious uh zealot i'd like to do um yeah and i've heard origin laizel actually doesn't have much unique stuff. I'm not that unique. Though I did date Laizel in the beginning of this run and we like committed to each other.

And then I had the dialogue with Shadowheart where she goes, you know, it's sad to see, you know, you happy and it's not me causing it or whatever. And then I was like, actually, you're right. I want to be with you. You were right the whole time. I broke up with Blaisdell. Be mean to me.

I was so weak. I was like, actually, you're right. Wait, who are you doing? No comment. I must have misheard it. Just Blaisdell. Me and Blaisdell all the way, baby. Oh, that's the Italian one

yeah yeah yeah Bazel I cook it with Bazel have you seen Big Hero 6 Baymax Baymax um

we should do an Italian episode one thing uh I wanted to mention in relation to an episode we did recently is uh

we made an episode about the Kate Middleton conspiracy theories people were having making fun of the conspiracy theories themselves and the people who were like obsessing themselves over bad Photoshop's and the same shit. Desperation to be more interesting and insightful than like, I just forgot.

And then it was announced that Kate Middleton has cancer. But then surely people stopped pushing this, these crazy narratives about having an affair or something now people are like doing enhance on the fucking video and acting like presenting it as ai or um i saw like some people talking about how her ring disappears on her hand because she moves and like not understanding that like there's a thing called frame rates it's just like it's just it's the real like dark side of this stuff and i think you know uh obviously the the where the criticism was landed for us was on the memes themselves and then the uh sort of pr team behavior which is not i don't think kate middleton herself

the tacklessness and like yeah posting and doing any of this stuff because she's probably she has sort of PR team behavior, which is not, I don't think Kate Middleton herself. The tactlessness. Yeah, posting and doing any of this stuff because she has other important things to focus on. I mean, hey, man, I'm staunchly not a royalist. Don't get me wrong. This has nothing to do with that. I just am a human being. And I think I have like a, there's a blocker in me

that can't just go to, Hey, there's this woman I don't know with children, with a family that is like very sick. And I, you know, I'm going to post a thing that's more fun. I'm going to like, look, that's strange. That's a weird way. Yeah. It's very weird time online. I mean, uh, as of this episode coming out on friday uh it's tuesday we're having to record a little early this week but there was just a horrific tragedy in baltimore maryland oh yeah um of this cargo ship running into this uh bridge um francis got key bridge and uh unknown you know casualties there were cars on the bridge like crossing the bridge when it the cargo boat is maybe on fire yeah they lost power and issued

like a media call it's like very like much developing story right now as of this but even so i was still seeing people make kind of tasteless jokes about it and also um doing like nudes and bio posts like on twitter and i'm like bro like and these are bots these are not like real people it's like and it's ai like it's like fake only fans or like fake whatever posting posting AI photos and shit. I hate that the dialogue always ends up becoming what, like, I think you can joke about anything. I'm like, look, I, in a sense, think you can joke about anything. My claim isn't like you should go to jail. That's not the claim.

That's like a lazy way of fighting your way out of a whiff, basically. Like, oh, I went for like an offensive joke didn't really land oh you can't say anything these days there's no other criticism nor i think it uh exonerates you if it's funny or like people think it is funny i'm the only thing i'm saying is like oh that's weird that's weird that you did that that that was your instinct and like the defense of that is not you just don't like offensive humor and And I do think, okay, so in the Kate Middleton episode, I do think that we said if she's not well that we hope she gets better. But I will also say that here that I hope she has a speedy recovery.

And, again, I don't think that one would take this from our episode, but it was about the conspiracies themselves and about the obsession and and like there's many eclipses that i've seen of it and we like listen back to it and i think i think it's pretty clear where we where we stand on that but uh yeah i think it's humanist you know i think it's weird that people have not let up and have still like gone this feeds even more into the conspiracies which is just crazy which is i mean it's really just i don't get me wrong i'm sure there's a bit of a gambler's fallacy as well people saying that she's definitely having an affair and then someone comes out with pretty much the most

like yikes truth part like if someone's claiming something you go like i'm like really sick you're like oh i have to go further into it then i have to like go further in the conspiracy because otherwise i should be really embarrassed yeah or just just the like obsessing over videos that don't look like it's very similar to our main topic for today uh which is just people really wanting to see a conspiracy in not nothing something that's i think i said this before too, something that's explained by something much more boring, which is like,

I'm sorry. That's not like as exciting to have discourse about, but like, but there's interesting stuff in the world. You can focus on that. It's just interesting stuff is usually complicated and has nothing to do with you, you know,

like, Oh, the world's weird. Like, no, actually what I did was something. But yeah, I just wanted to sort of speak on that a little bit. you know like oh the world's weird like no actually what i did was something but yeah i

just wanted to sort of speak on that a little bit um and also throw another uh you suck to the people still yeah i just don't i mean yeah it's just i do think it's fun to uh when the stakes are low it's fun to like kind of make fun of these conspiracies because it's a little bit of a media literacy thing as well and also just kind of teasing apart what is clout posting versus like yeah versus like uh earnest posting which is like not i i think i now have a cynical view that like most things that are posted online are like not earnest well because you have to there's always going to be like a selection bias for people that post right to have the instinct to post anything at all is already that's a very good point and then also the um the algorithms that be dictate

that there is a um there is a bias towards uh extreme extreme takes you know bothersome um nuance doesn't go viral it's boring i don't want to do that i want to talk about harm from another dimension um new nuance only in the form of pretend rage at the opposite side i think that that's something that i like have done for years in my videos is like pretend outrage for like a more nuanced point inside because you like because the alternative doesn't i mean it can work but it's just like easier to be like five minute craft sucks and then have a actually five minute craft stuff but like exception to the rule yeah yeah yeah so to be like oh this girl's working in target and then and then simultaneously be like i think that this this content is not intended to present the way

that it is and i don't think this person this individual means well but the act and like what it represents could be viewed as harmful like having that you can't put that in the title and thumbnail as easily no that's too hard. Actually, she's an AI alien. Did you know that? Yeah. She's the thing that makes me interesting. We wanted to talk today about one of my favorite little, like,

conspiracy adjacent. It's, like, adjacent to everything I like, like, conspiracies and dark matter. No. Dark urge. Lost media. Dark urge. One of my favorite ballist conspiracies uh no uh the mandela effect oh it never gets old dude so so there's a tiktoker that um that does mandela effect stuff and we have a little bit of a a little bit of a game but then also i thought

it would be fun to look at some other like mandela effect conspiracies so for starters if you haven't heard of the mandela effect imagine that you're wrong about something you don't feel like it yeah it's pretty much it so like the reason it's called the mandela effect is that people uh like mistakenly believe that nelson mandela died in jail in like the reason it's called the mandela effect is that people uh like mistakenly believe that nelson mandela died in jail in like the 90s what but what an awful legacy to replace nelson mandela's legacy with by the way like more people will know the name from this um however yeah let's start with the reason we're all here nelson mandela who this theory is named after died in 2013 i mean hey i just knocked all this stuff off the top of my head however countless people

distinctly remember him dying in prison in the 1980s but his death isn't the only example of mandela effect well i would hope not because you named an effect after the the jordan piss effect don't know change the name jordan always has to take a fucking piss during the podcast. I'm known for more. And that's an effect. We all experience it. All right. And so, yeah, there's a TikToker who...

If you... But they frame it. Okay, this TikToker, their name is clientele, which is nice. Did we outline it all the way? Like what the Mandela effect? Oh yeah, so the way that it presents outside of the Nelson Mandela thing

is things like the Fruit of the Loom logo where people always remember a cornucopia being a part of the Fruit of the Loom logo. And even in the patent for the logo, it mentions a cornucopia, but it's never pictured. And then artists have, but everyone remembers a cornucopia being a part of the logo it mentions a cornucopia but it's never pictured and then artists have but everyone remembers a cornucopia being a part of the logo so what can explanation be if it wasn't the logo changing and then the logo has never had a cornucopia in the history of the fruit in fruit

of the loom except for maybe if you go back to like the 40s or something like that there's some old ass thing that maybe kind of could maybe be a cornucopia so you were you're wrong and and so then that's a thing and then now there's things where people like post old shirts where they have the cornucopia but they like used ai to put it in or they like use photoshop and it's like imagine if it was so it's like so that's that's one that just won't quit uh there's there's a lot of them baron steen bears which one is it? It's Berenstain Bears. Also, what is that? It's a book series.

It's a book series about a family of bears. Oh, I guess he'd only read it, though. That's fine. But the thing is, and it was a TV show as well. Yeah, but it was books first, right? Books first. Because I'm old. I remember the books.

So I think with that one, because I remember I it bernstein bears when i was a kid because bernstein is a name and we just were mispronouncing the name that's it we just jewish explanation done this is the family of jewish bears um but yeah so that's the thing that always happens see there's tons of things rihanna rihanna you know what i mean like and i just mispronounce stuff is it the general because i know there's like the kind of tears of of the mandela effect because we might use the term to be like hey we misremembered something or misinterpreted something when we were younger but i think now it's primarily used as the explanation is i have desynced from my original reality that is now because now the way that it enters the like conspiracy zone is that people present it as if they were in a parallel reality, Steins Gate style.

They were in a different world line where like everything was the same. Every conspiracy starts with a coat. Yeah, everything is the same except for the logo on my shirt. Wait a minute, I thought Starbucks was a for the logo on my shirt. Wait a minute. I thought Starbucks was a mermaid. It must have been. And so the clientele series of videos is the day we realized we weren't from this universe, part 67.

So now it's creating a community. It started creating a community of if you also misremembered this collectively, we are all from the different universe. We're from universe 1B. Dude, he spent like so much of his year realizing he wasn't from this universe. 67 days. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He spent more than two months just being like, I don't think I'm from this universe. Yeah, how many days can you realize someone someone is like i've watched all 66 previous parts and i it felt like i was i think i'm not from your universe but now that you showed me part 67 i realize i am a part and welcome beat me up elaine wasn't blonde from seinfeld i guess i'm from somewhere else also dog tech thank you for your service to this guy. Gotta have the TikTok. Okay, our universe. Okay.

Our universe, Guy Fieri, wore these visors frequently on his shows. Again, the fact that the universe differentiality hinges upon Guy Fieri in any capacity is awesome. Yeah, it had no other impact on like, you know, there was no other butterfly effect as to

who became president or like what, if there was a different war. It's like the rebuild of Evangelion movies where the water's red. Their universe... Wait, but that's just like the end of the first movie. Sorry for your Ava heads out there. Y'all know what I'm talking about.

Their universe never wore a visor on any of his shows ever. Who's universe? I don't know if I remember him wearing a visor on his shows, but is that a photo of him? It's heavily photoshopped because I don't think he ever walked through fire. No, he walked through hell. Guy Fieri famously rose from Avernus. Drive his dive-ins

and rising from the seven hells. What's the god that Karlak was imprisoned by? Zariel. Oh shit, that's also in RuneScape.

Stole it. Stole it. Illegal. So which Guy Fieri is right? I never really watched the shows guy theory in my universe is a uh a mesosopheles he's black but he wore a visor um wait their universe being that the one he's from or the one we're so there there is the others that Yeah, that's ours. Is it?

Can you look up Guy Fieri with a visor? Yeah, is it? Has he never worn a visor ever? I mean, he can take it off. Look at him without a visor. Oh, fuck. Wait, no. The very first photo. He's wearing a visor.

He's wearing a visor. Oh, that's a different. That's just very first photo. He's wearing a visor. He's wearing a visor. Oh, that's a different. That's just some guy. That's not Guy Fieri. Oh, that's actually Universe 6's Guy Fieri. Oh, right. That's Fai Ghiari. It's Joji wearing one, so step in the right direction.

I don't remember him ever wearing a visor. Are they saying that photo isn't real? Nope, that isn't Guy Fieri. This particular visor is the guh. Is goo flicker. The guh? It's the guh, dude. Hired by Casanoff.

You know what I do remember is he always wore his sunglasses on the back of his head. Yeah, he's cool. I don't know enough about Guy Fieri for this one. All I know is that in their universe, he wore it on the front. But sure, that photo doesn't, I can't tell if they're telling me that photo is real or not. He's just visor coded.

Also, well, also, there's like a novelty of selling a visor with his hair in it. Yeah. Kind of implying.

Oh, sorry, I just forgot what a visor was this entire time. I was thinking of the sunglasses as a visor.

Oh, you're right. I don't have an opinion about a visor at all. This is... Maybe people are just remembering that you could buy the visor with his hair. Yeah, and he's just got the vibe of someone... Well, he wore a bandana a lot. Are they just seeing the kind of silhouette of him having something on his forehead? Wait, can you, like, Google, like, Guy Fieri show shows?

Okay, I'm like like this looks normal to me yeah with him with sunglasses i think from for me i was like they were saying he didn't have sunglasses on because i forgot what the word visor was for a brief moment i think it can also be that right visor sunglasses is like yeah i don't like a cyclops and x-men has a visor and it goes over his eyes oh and yeah interesting i don't think i haveops in X-Men has a visor and it goes over his eyes. Oh, yeah. Interesting. I don't think I have an opinion about whether or not he's ever worn a visor. It doesn't really seem to understand what we're requesting. It's like, what do you mean?

Yeah. Why would you need to know that? I love that he's like got a balaclava or whatever on. Yeah. You know what that's called? Yeah, so we can't find out his true identity. Right, right, right. Because he's not from here.

It's clientele he probably doesn't have like a social security card right so but we'll find him he's the perfect person to talk about it i remember him wearing a white one okay same okay what i guess now i do as well you put the image in my mind yeah like i could picture it yeah i imagined him doing it i could also buy one i could buy a visor that's like i remember like maybe he golfed once or something you know i don't know wait can you google has guy fear well that's such a stupid thing because the concept of has he ever put on a hat i don't know how they could even like crazy i don't think youtube

could conceive of what we're like requesting oh it's dastardly i think it's the bandana i just think they're thinking of the bandana but no there are all these hats for sale with his hair in it yeah but you can't if like i think that that's for sale because there are other people who would wear visors at this time in American history with bleached hair. Jacob, can you go ahead and order that one? I do love you acknowledging Guy Fieri as a member of American history. Jacob, at the same instinct as me,

is that we should order one that's MAGA-coded. Oh, yeah. Also, you can't, like, if you sold this product just as a wig. What the fuck is that? It's like a dog bowl with his face on it? What the hell is that? That a wig. It's like a dog bowl with his face on it. What the hell is that? Oh, that's haunting. It's a bucket hat.

Oh, gross. See, in my universe, I remember him wearing a bucket hat with his own face on it. So he doesn't lose track. Remember when people would wear masks with faces below them? Yeah, very unnerving. None of these vices look right to me. So I guess I'm from their universe. This one.

Right. So we're not from the universe he's from, but here's part 59. Maybe he's going to convince us. It's the same thing. Beats by Dre, our universe. Oh, Beats by Dr. Dre. Well, I've never seen the logo say Beats by Dre.

I mean. And it also immediately rebranded to Beats. There's no way. I mean, maybe at some, look, I guess look up Beats by Dr. Dre. I guess it could have and then changed. I just, I've never seen Beats by Dr. Dre, which proves the point. Yeah, I guess you might be from their universe. England. Wait, no, our universe is Beats by Dr. Dre, which proves the point. Yeah, I guess you might be from their universe. England. Wait, no, our universe is Beats by Dre.

Yeah. No. Well, so it's a difference of what people say versus what the actual logo is. No, I just looked it up. Has it always been there? Well, it says Beats by Dre.com. Oh, wait, go to Beats by Dre.com. Is that a Mandela effect website?

What I think he's doing is he's playing on a... There's a very insidious thing happening here. Shout out to the anime Angel Beats, by the way. That was kind of a banger. Angel Beats is very good. Everyone said Beats by Dre. beats by the way that was kind of a pop-up for that that has a very good yeah um everyone said beats by dre no one ever said beats by dr because people don't say dr dre anymore whether or not the logo ever said beats by dre is not something that i'm willing to have a discussion about because it's not something i've ever thought about yeah wait can can you look at the like, okay, first Beats headphones in box.

Oh, hello. I don't remember the logo having words. I just remember the B, you know? Yeah, exactly. But the thing is, originally it was Beats by Dre, and then they rebranded after the Apple acquisition to Beats. Oh, that one looks promising. Beats by Dre.

Oh, and Beats by Dre. Wait, it says both. That's the thing is i think they've used both because they're instagram right now like i think i don't see the i don't see beats but the bottom left beats by oh no it is not straight oh fuck um stupid i think they people colloquially maybe we're saying beats by everyone and so they just like their instagram is beats by dre yeah so everyone said beats by dre but then like the icon is Beats by Dre. Yeah. So everyone said Beats by Dre, but then like the iconography is Beats by Dr. Dre because that's his artist name. Yeah.

Which one is he saying is their universe? He's saying that Beats by Dre, he basically photoshopped the logo to not say doctor. And then is saying, isn't that what we all know? That's their universe. Like he's saying our universe Beats by Dre. But now that looks just like it says it beats by drew it's by drew by you know to be fair if i if you did remove one of the words it would say that you know what i mean so my thing is i've never seen this logo at all because i never had beats headphones and i only saw them, people wearing them.

And then all people said was Beats by Dre and the website is Beats by Dre and the Instagram is Beats by Dre. And that's because colloquially it's known as Beats by Dre. Whether or not they say Beats by Dr. Dre doesn't fucking matter. We just don't really say, we haven't said like Dr. Dre since like Curtain Call. No, yeah, no one said it. Curtain, people, Dr. Dre. Dr. Dre said, nothing you idiots,

Dr. Dre's dead. Now he's just a tree. I took away the Dr. Maybe he lost his license. Oh, yeah. Fuck. He lost his license to practice. Now I feel bad for making fun of him.

We just want to go home. Why? What's wrong with this? Also, where are you in this universe? Where's the other them? Well, it's a big deal in the comments. But no, I mean, where's the normal one of them? If they came to a new universe that was a parallel universe.

As a 34-year-old, it's always been Beats by Dre. They're wrong. 34, taking position on that one, taking clout. Still in the ballot. Okay, actually, the most mind-blowing account on TikTok, people stealing my content like crazy. That is mind-blowing. Alright, I don't, okay.

Look, I'm a very procreative person. I have nine children. I'm very into procreation. Pimp. No, the uh okay i'm actually budget i might my main thing is so far what i've seen of his content is listing images that he did not create uh and pointing to the text. In our universe.

And then going in our universe, in their universe. Well, in their universe, he stole content. And so while I don't want to belittle, and we will watch more of this content, but while I don't want to belittle the creativity and the creations of this person, I do not think it's fair for him to claim other people's content

as him stealing, them stealing his content. Stealing my content like crazy. Because also if they're stealing it, it's also something they remember. They're also recalling it. But these are like famous Mandela effects. Yeah. He's not making these up. Like these are things that the internet has talked about before.

I remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison. Do you guys recall this? Yeah, that's actually my theory. That's actually my Mandela. Do we have more? Because I want to keep watching these. I see we're traveling back further and further to his origin. The day we realized we weren't from this universe, part 26,

2.0 videos from my original account that got banned. I wonder why his original account got banned. Well, it's TikTok, so anything could happen. Yeah. It had like feet in it or something. Our universe. Judge Judy has a gavel. Their universe.

She doesn't have a gavel. But only just two different photos. It's just two different photos of Judge Judy. Well, I think the theory... Okay, I'm having to add additional context because he's not doing it. But I believe the theory is that people remember Judge Judy having a gavel.

Didn't the show run for 150 years? She could have introduced a gavel at some point. Just Google, did Judge Judy have a gavel? Did Nelson Mandela have a gavel? He left it in prison. But again, this is something where it's like, she's a judge, so maybe your brain just inserts gavel. Yeah, because there's nine other judge shows,

and I'm sure Judge Joe Brown might have had a gavel. Look at the core answer. Ever used a gavel is insane. Of course she has. Oh, Judge Judy gavel, Mandela effects solved. They call them MEs in the Mandela effects community. Me solved. By the way, this one looks like it's older than the TikTok.

So people steal me my content from the other universe. Like crazy. There's a popular Mandela effect regarding tv's judge judy well i thought that tiktok creator created it sorry they're lying i just can't get over people claiming like famous mandela of x there's a popular mandela effect regarding tv's judge judy many people say they recall she has slash had a gavel. Judge's hammer. The weapon of a judge. It's like a bulgur skate item. It's a versatile war hammer.

Tiny gavel. Which she often, okay, by the way, fighting game where a judge has a tiny gavel, when they swing it, it turns into a game. Oh, like Ramona Flowers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Which she often bangs in order to order the court.

When in fact- You vote of a judge. Unlike other TV judges, Judge Judy actually does not and never has used a gavel on TV. And it turns out she did for a small number of episodes way back in the 90s, but not since then. Oh. So, yeah, she actually has, and that's what you're remembering. Or you're conflating it with every other judge show

of which there was a explosion of judge shows back in that day. I think I, I don't know. I feel like my only option in this situation is to say with complete confidence that there are multiple realities, and I'm from the one where, like, the Berenstain Bears had Adidas or whatever.

Can you Google judge Joe Brown? Weapon. And then, and then images. And then. Oh, bash, bash.

There we go. Where? Just to the left of where you were. There's Dan Jacob. Second row. Oh, I see him. Okay.

Yeah. He had a gavel. Look at him. He's got his gavel. Maybe it's just for the fellas. Oh, judge Joe Jacob. Second row, middle row. Okay, yeah, he had a gavel. Look at him. He's got his gavel. Legend. Maybe it's just for the fellas. Oh, Judge Joe Brown. It's on NBC News.

Judge Joe Brown canceled after 15 years. Yeah, okay. It was on the air for 15 years. Canceled after he said something really weird. After beating someone to death with his weapon.

His judge's hammer. That's why they removed it from Judge Judy. Oh, yeah, he had a gavel in his show. Oh, look at that fourth photo. That's why they removed it from Judge Judy. Oh yeah, he had a gavel in his show. Oh, look at that fourth photo. That's cute. Where he's like holding it to his head. That's cute.

He's like, I'm sick in the head. Handsome Italian men. What? Is he Italian? It's called Handsome Italian Men Joe Brown TV series. Oh, they're just doing the thing that they do with stock photos where they just add a bunch of tag words. Oh, Hands're just doing the thing that they do with stock photos where they just add a bunch of tag words. Oh, a handsome Italian. Classic Italian Joe Brown.

Tricked again. That's sick. Oh, my God. I think he maybe did something bad. Okay, let's keep doing these. I like it. could i start wearing a balaclava when it fitted that would look cool you have a similar hat an opinion

no okay wait pause our universe bell biv devoe and then he shakes his head. Their universe. Wait, what changed? It's got a second L. Oh, I don't fucking know. I don't know who this is. Oh, they sing the song Poison.

Oh, okay. That girl is poison. Don't trust a big butt and a smile. There we go. We spell with one L. I mean, I think I Yeah, like literally people

are disagreeing in the comments. Oh, wait, no, people are agreeing in the comments. I you know, it's really funny. I do not I think it is double L. That's so funny. His do not. I think it is double L. That's so funny. His name is Ricky Bell.

Always has been. And it's spelled with two L's. It's Ricky Bell. I mean, that's what's so frustrating about this conspiracy theory is like, yeah, of course you think that you're from here. Yeah.

No, man. I just know when I'm wrong. Yeah. Wait, can you, can you go to the Wikipedia page for Bell Biv DeVoe? They're hiding it.

Yeah. I want to look at the members of the group. Ah, yes. Ricky Bell, Michael Bivens, Ronnie DeVoe. It's their fucking names. That's so crazy. Well, but in the other universe, their last name was Belle, a name no one has. His name was Bel-Air. Yeah, and they were members of New Edition, which I actually didn't know.

Well, in the other universe, it was NU. I know of New Edition, but... It was No Edition. Oh, I see. Check their website. What's going on on bell2vote.com? I think that's what happened is Bobby went solo. Also, New Edition had one of those classically,

absolutely horrible managers that just like abused them and never let them get paid. Oh, 80s, 90s are, yeah. Yeah. It's crazy that Bellevue DeVos is still on tour. Let's go. That's sick. Let's go.

That changed their name. Now there's no L or there's no consonants. Now they're just BBD. Featuring Rerun. Revrun from Run DMCc that is such a and from run's house does anybody remember that yeah why i don't know the the mandela effect thing is always kind of wig me out because it's not like one of those conspiracy copes where something else about your life is compromised by being wrong like oh no i shouldn't question like my racism because then that changes like i have to dislike uh

diversity initiatives because then that means that otherwise i'm less valuable or i'm not superior this is just like i have to it has to be Berenstain or what? Well, I'm not allowed to be wrong. What is this one that has a million views? Do you see right kind of towards the center? Yeah. If you remember any of these photos, it's safe to say you're getting those memories from your alternative self in an alternate universe

because they never existed here. I don't think that's safe to say. They never existed. I don't think it's safe to say that They never exist. I don't think it's safe to say that. I think there's a thing called false memories. Especially if you show me an image. Also, you know, memory is like one of the least trustworthy aspects of your brain because it can be altered over time.

Eyewitnesses are worthless. Like you can't. I saw it out there, yeah. Okay. I saw a bit of both. Do you remember Jaws? Okay. is it the bite out of the jay i've never seen that bite out of the jay in my life but is that what that is that because jaws is a movie that happened yes okay oh judge judy with the gavel we know what that one's about i love the person saying take me back because I know these existed. This world sucks.

Like somebody saying, Judge Judy and Jaws did not exist in this universe. It's interesting. Are they going to show us the fixed versions? No, I think these are just the other versions. Wait, crisscross. What about, these are all Mandela effects, but how did they spell crisscross? Did they think his name was Crisscross? Here, I'll look it up. It was always Crisscross.

Oh, okay. Oh, I see. What is that? I don't know, but I don't think it's spelled like that. Oh, did you scroll? You're not allowed to do that. You devilish. TikTok has the stupidest behavior on desktop

oh yeah the monopoly man having a a mustache or something like that oh wait are they not going to show us the other version of it oh sex in the city versus sex and the city. It's just because people said sex in the city like that. Yeah. Verbally. Wait, what was that? The Moses we remember?

What happened to Moses? He died in prison. He was actually really small. Can you remember? Who remembers Moses? When I hung out with him, he looked nothing like this. Yeah, yeah. He wasn't made of stone at all. What is Little Tikes and why?

No, there's no way. The logo was just cut. That can't. No way. I don't know. That was an animation, I thought. Huh? Wait, okay.

Can we look up the Little Tikes logo? What is this? Also, what did they say crisscross? How was it spelled? With, okay. Can we look up the Little Tikes logo? What is this? Also, what did they say crisscross? How was it spelled? With Ks. No, in their universe, they wore the clothes forward. They just wore the clothes forward. It's spelled K-R-I-S-K-R-O-S-S.

That's what I can't. I don't know what he was. What's he trying to say? Oh, K-R-S. I think they were saying it didn't have a double S. They really need to explain themselves. Yeah. I'm yet to see one where I'm not like, but.

Little Texas I instead of Y. Oh, okay. Whoa, like the word. You did not Photoshop all these. Where did you get these images from? No, no, he did in the other universe. This is not people stealing your content. You didn't make these images.

They're stealing it like crazy, Joe. Literally, there's no audio. There's no fucking audio. It's a black screen, and then it shows a bunch of images that he did not make. And then he's like, people keep stealing my content. You know, actually, come to think of it, in my universe, someone stole his content like crazy. This is like those meme accounts that steal memes, like Fat Jerry or whatever. Oh, yeah, with like a watermark on it. And then say well we curated it so it's ours that's a good really good and then yeah

they have like uh their logo over someone's logo and it's a video yeah fuck it the spongebob movie it's just an hour and 20 minute twitter video okay so, so we're going to wrap this up with Jacob's Mandela quiz. What is that? Oh, sorry. On the image. So which one do you guys remember? So the, I don't know what the top of the White House looks like. I'm going to guess flag.

I would think. Yeah, they love. I guess flag, but like now, but it feels obvious. So I'm like, it must not. I also don't know what that one is. Is it like a statue or something? The statue of George Washington.

It's whoever is the current president. It's actually a fountain. It's like a little man pissing off the... It's Calvin. Oh. Oh, wait. That's not the White House.

What's it? The Capitol? The Capitol building. Speaking of, guys, Sad Boys merch sale, January 6th, 2025. We will see you there. Nancy Pelosi's desk.

We're bringing it back. We will not. Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's up there then? It is Calvin pissing. Oh, brilliant. Oh.

Is that Lady Liberty? Statue of Freedom. Oh, she's got a sword dude i mean considering considering i initially thought it was the white house for some reason even though i know what the white house looks like i was like the white house doesn't have a dome but uh which one existed for a statue of freedom of statue of liberty because it kind of seems redundant statue of liberty was a gift from france that's what i'm thinking. I'm thinking they copied. After. Copied, copied, copiers, copied. Oh, you guys thought France was so good for like locking in bodily rights.

I just- Well, they stole a statue. This is like those drawing Pokemon from memories. Where it's like, I don't like, okay. Yeah, that makes sense you remember the stripe being somewhere else like i don't work at an attic i don't know did you ever uh read highlights magazine when you're a kid where it's like spot the difference in these two photos i feel like that's why this stuff is hard because you're like i don't know that's why i always fail

those quizzes as i'm from another you know Don't think about the Capitol building like that. I find I don't have any discomfort being wrong. I'm wrong about things all the time. I would look at that and go like, oh, I guess I'm stupid. Yeah. Okay, here we go. Oh, okay. I know this one.

This is like peanut butter, right? Yes. It's Jif? Jiffy? Hmm. Jiffy, right? I'm thinking of lube. Exactly.

And that's why everyone thinks of that. No, sorry. I'm not wrong. I meant the, I'm thinking of what it is in my universe. Oh, right, right, right. Their slogan used to be choosy moms choose Jif. Yeah. And then there's also.

What the fuck? Yeah. That's weird. Yeah. And yeah, I, it's always Jif? Yeah. That's weird. Yeah. And yeah, it's always Jif. Yeah. I mean, Jif, he wouldn't really fit in the can very well. Can.

Yep. A classic. Oh, yeah. A classic. Fuck that cornucopia. That shit was never there. It looks nasty. It's ruining the real estate.

But it did, for some reason, taught a lot of people what a cornucopia was I don't even think the cornucopia council was so excited yeah oh it's agitprog the Cornish council of cornucopias those sneaky bastards sneak that into our cultural dialect just to

sell more cornucopias is that flour what is that oh it's the brown part. Wait, what? What is it? What's fruit of the loom? It's clothing. Oh, it's clothing, yeah.

It's like underwear and stuff. Respect. Because I remember in t-shirt fruit. Underwear and t-shirts. Yeah. In my universe, it was pants. Oh, yeah.

I know why people would get this wrong. Yeah. It's the left. It's Looney Tunes, like the music, like sounds. You'd think it was the other one because they're cartoons. Because they're cartoons. So it's an easy mistake to make.

It's not like if it was like Looney Tames. Like in my universe. The Looney Steen Bears. Looney Bunny. Oh, yeah. the looney steen bears looney bunny oh yeah febreze doesn't have the double the double e but it's still pronounced febreze so if you're writing it up phonetically people might put the extra e there yeah it's italian you know god i'm so good at this because i'm so deep in fucking mandela because i'm so tired of them it's funny seeing the ones that are actually like the products that i saw in the UK.

And I'm like, well, what is the other thing that people think this could be? I will be pronouncing this. Fabretti. Fabretti. Fabretti. Oh my, I smell too much like a prosciutto. I need to clean, I had to kill.

Makes sense. Oh, it's, let me take a guess because this is not a thing we had either. I know there's a Wienermobile. And that's like if they remember W-E-E-N-E-R. Wiener. Like weaning? Oscar Mayer has a way with B-O-L-O-G-N-A.

What does the Wienermobile do? It drives around. I mean, you can say the same about the Batmobile an attractor so does Jarvis I mean I have a lot in common with the Wienermobile we do we call his car the Jarvismobile yeah we do yeah

it does have a giant hot dog on it it's too heavy to get on when I was a kid I saw it and I got so excited and ran up to it. And the people gave me a little whistle shaped like the Wienermobile and I still have it. I don't like that it's a whistle. It's too suggestive. Right. And I think it's too suggestive to give a child.

I'm sorry. I'm just imagining. Maybe I've just been burned by the internet. But you gotta be careful. I think I'm just imagining whenever I think of stuff like that, I think of like old guys going, they have no idea. Yeah. See?

Well, it's better than just a straight hot dog. True. Or a cock. They shouldn't give that out. That would be weird, wouldn't it? It's M--e-y right okay so this one i actually don't fucking know but i think it's uh i think it's m-a i think it's m-a because it's they it's in a song they spell it in one of the songs wait don't they say

meyer how do you well that's the thing. It doesn't fucking matter because it could be pronounced the same way with either spelling and M-E-Y-E-R is a more common name than M-A-Y-E-R. What do you all say? How does John Mayer spell his name? M-A-Y-E-R. Like the fucking baloney? What a loser, dude. Like the name.

Oh, dude. What a fucking L, dude. I seen him put it in his mouth, bro. He's glazing it up. That's you. He's just like ignoring us. Your body is a wonder bread. You know what I'm saying?

Dude, I just. Oh, that's more phallic than a regular hot dog. That's weird. Yeah. This is just like their street team, you know? Every hot dog company needs a street team. They need like a hype team, you know? Every hot dog company needs a street team. They need like a hype team, you know? Yeah.

What do I want to eat right now? Imagine if I'm a pro athlete, I show up to games. You know, people show up in their McLarens and shit like that. I show up in the Wienermobile. Yeah, I show up in the blimp. Oh, my God. Did I know somebody who drove the Wienermobile? Did we know somebody oscar

mayer it was john mayer that rings a bell but maybe you just inserted the oh we have a no thought into my brain the list of drivers what is this the uh wienermobile drivers no way the driver of a wienermobile is called the hot dogger that's's awesome. The hot dogger. Oh, my God. The hot dogger's job is to, air quotes, meet Ebi-A-T and greet people around. That's very inappropriate. A kid comes up and you're like, time to meet. Yeah. You want to meet me, kid?

College seniors, is that what you said? Are about to graduate, are eligible. I wish I had done that when I was in college. I'm too old. Anastasia, I'm going to call you out. Oh my God. Address. I had a text between us from May 12th, 2021.

In it, we're talking about a friend of ours. I'll tell you after. A friend of ours who got to ride around in the Wienermobile. You spelled Oscar Mayer with an E. Wait, which university did she text that from? shit it doesn't say okay oh it does say out of universe it's a green bubble yeah sent from my universe 2021 may 12 2021 wow i fucked up in that universe androids have the blue messages i really i i outed myself as not being from here. From this universe. They disappear. When you get outed,

you have to go back to your, yeah, you're vaping. I'm vaping all day. Yeah, you're vaping. You're like, I'm out. Sucking one end of it. This whistle's crazy.

That would be fun, a whistle-based vape. And then you blow back into it after it does. An Oscar Mayer Wiener mobile. A smoking dog. They call me the hot dog. Hey, go ahead.

Pull up the nut mobile. That's actually my car. We need a hot box inside of a Wienermobile. It's also called the hot dog. What about baby nut? Don't say that on the podcast. The nut mobile vehicle. Why does that exist?

It's my car. What the fuck is that? Oh, it is. It is Mr. Peanut's car. What the fuck is this? So wait it is mr peanut's car what the what the fuck is this so wait hold on slow down there's one that hands out a phallic meat and there's one that hands out nuts see pervert that's what the people want disgusting that's nuts that's meat would anybody like my nuts request the nut mobile all right we gotta request it Yeah Today Honestly

If you guys do another live show Should we request the NoteMobile We roll up in the NoteMobile Looking to request the world's largest Peanut on wheels Yeah Iconic Not that iconic mate

They did a pun Mr. Peanut Restrict. Is currently touring the country. Mr. Peanut, restricted, is currently touring the country in his iconic nut mobile and would love to cash you on the road. In my universe, it's spelled catch you. Yeah. Event description, having nuts. Hungry for nuts. Yeah.

Or whatever. Also, the Oscar Mayer logo having a pink circle for, like, bologna, I'm assuming, is kind of nasty. I think that was just in all of, like, the other ones. Oh, never mind. I thought it was a part of the logo. Because, you know, if you buy Oscar Mayer bologna, it is in, like, a circular package. Also, I don't know why, but perfectly circular meat grosses me out. Yeah, that's a worrying one for me.

What even is bologna? Don't look it up. It's a composite. Yeah, like steel. If you take bronze and iron, you get salami. I imagine bologna is just like a giant hot dog that they slice yeah that makes sense with the car they run it over it's uh remember that controversy about the pink goo yeah like what was that chicken nugget oh i thought i don't know why you're going chicken

nugget it was very funny to me it was like text to speech chicken nugget. It was very funny to me. That was like text to speech. Chicken nugget. One of those Rocket Raccoon on a TikTok. Chicken nugget. Top 10 times I had it. Chicken nugget and Rocket Raccoon. That episode of Abbott Elementary that aired after the Oscars where Bradley Cooper guest stars as himself

and then he's in the class and then he uh they're like going off of the um his listing off his roles and then like the kids don't know him and he's like he's also in Guardians of the Galaxy and then one of the generators goes no you're not and then he goes come on I'm Wreck-It I can't do a Wreck-It raccoon by the way hey come on I'm W's like it's very cute okay this one's for you welcome to the dojo well yeah welcome yeah how dare you do how dare you quote the the the

dark magic to me i was there when it was written if you get this wrong legally we take away i would never do an eldritch item uh he i get how they got there it's another one where I see symmetry it's no black stripe yes

come on which is good because it looks weird I don't know he does have the little brown stripe at the back of his tail which has become less and less pronounced over the years that's pow world I see the mistake He does have the little brown stripe at the back of his tail, which has become less and less pronounced over the years. Jacob, go back.

Bring it over. That's Powell. Ah, yes. I see the mistake. They're completely different. Yeah, don't lay at them. Don't put them side by side. Stop it. Stop that.

That's Pikachu. Pikachu. That's Pikachu. Cheeky poo. Cheeky. Cheeky little poo. Cheeky poo. Oh.y. Cheeky poo. Oh, I mean.

No, I mean. I mean. Wait. Oh, so. Is this one you had? Isn't there an example of this? Where are you from, Jacob? I love it.

It's the two types of Funyuns, but Jacob's included one image, and it's just some loose Funyuns. That's so funny. That's so funny. Did you just think that? I do think it's Funyuns on the left. It's Funyuns, right? Because Funyuns looks like something you get on your feet. It looks like Funyuns. I you get on your feet. Looks like bunions.

I think they must have known. Like they had a marketing meeting where they were like, oh, we can't do the one that looks like bunions. I also don't really want Funions. Oh, right. She hates being painted. Oh my God.

That's so funny. I mean, it's... Wait, now I'm worried I'm going to be wrong. What's the difference? She's smiling. She's so happy. But I think...

Okay, wait. I think I'm going to be wrong. But in my head, the Mona Lisa's not smiling. And there's like discourse about that. She has a devilish secret. Because I think there's a term called a Mona Lisa smile. And I think that term means like, it's like a, okay, I'm going to mess that up.

But it means like, you're not using your mouth to smile. It's left. It's the left one, right? That's not real or is real? Is real. Go to the Wikipedia page. Oh, no. Wait, I feel like...

Wait, hold on. No. The one that you used, I feel like she's smiling. She's happier. She's happier than the one you showed. This is the Mona Lisa smile. It feels like that's in between the two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go back in the one you showed. This is the Mona Lisa smile. It feels like that's in between the two. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Go back to the one. Oh. Oh. Um. No, there she is. No, no, no, no. That's it. God.

For some reason, it looked like she was smiling more than she actually is in that one. Let me go and get the edit of me getting her right. Not laughing at how bad it was. Let me go ahead and throw that in. Oh, what the hell there is a chance that subtle touch-ups over time for this have actually created more or less of a smile have you seen those videos of like uh the like yellow varnish that like over hundreds of years has like, well, the varnish to finish paintings like turned yellow over the years. And it makes a lot of these old paintings like look really yellow.

Yeah. And there's like a process to remove it. And it like makes the painting look like fresh and like new. It is art conservation, in my opinion, is like one of the coolest things because you have to kind of be a scientist. It's amazing. And an artist. If the smile moves a little, a scientist it's amazing yeah would you have to be if the smile moves a little it's a yeah it's fine you did a pretty good job if i'm in a fender

bender and you give me back the car with a scratch yeah i feel like the the car is a hundred years old it's one of those speedsters oh here it is oh oh cool it's just like it's like oddly satisfying yeah I guess people weren't more yellow back then it's like

it gives that vibe that like the past was in sepia tone well that's what I'm curious about I want like colors degrading and the general way

that things desaturate over time I guess is the reason that we associate sepia with the past yeah we've just taken it's not like when things are shot to look like Mexico.

It's crazy because the way the world looks now and the way a tree looks or a bug looks is mostly the same as it looked like in Mona Lisa's time. Yeah. And that's hard for my brain to think about. It's difficult to conceive of their clothes being textured just like regular silk

or whatever one incredible example paint strokes yeah an incredible example of what we're talking about is that peter jackson world war one documentary yeah where he uh took actual real film from world war one and changed the frame rate, colorized it, and had lip readers figure out what the people were saying, so they dubbed it as well. It's unsettlingly... It's like you've never seen

footage from World War I like this before. I think there's genuinely a comfort that comes with alienating it from reality, like this war didn't happen, it's like, you know, the past. a comfort that comes with alienating it from reality. Like, this war didn't happen. It's like, you know, the past. It feels more real in this documentary than like,

and it's upsetting. Imagine the dub is all New Zealanders. Twinty pencils. I remember I was at war. I wasn't a big fan of trenches. It's bloody windy here. My feet are wet. Because I don't a big fan of trenches It's bloody windy here My feet are wet Because I don't think people realize how much film footage was taken Sorry what happened there

I thought they were trying to do something They were trying to do something here Oh are those No Are those like poppies Oh yeah Oh yeah yeah yeah They don't do that here right

No They only in... Well, they do it in New Zealand, too, and the UK, right? That's where World War I happened. I can't do New Zealand, really. Well, I can. It's just... But I just gotta...

I can... New Zealand feels like I'm going too far into Australia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can only say 20 pixels because of Fly of the Conchords. That was like a joke in one of their... So is it... This is the colorized

world we're all in? It looks just like a... Is this guy? It looks like BBC News. Footage from the war which has been painstakingly restored, colorized,

and converted into 3D by Jackson's team at Wingnut Films in New Zealand. Whoa. What's that guy doing? Whoa.

Whoa. When they said turned into 3D, what do they mean? So I saw this film in the theater with 3D glasses. Oh, wow. And I really wanted to see it. That's an insane concept.

Where it's like, whoa! It's World War I! Look out, it's a tank! They're like doing things right in front of the camera so they can see the war 3D. Peter Jackson's like, and then the Luftwaffe. There are so many movies that they're like, we want to show what it was really like in war.

This is what, like like this is the closest experience i've had with a film right because watching it with 3d glasses and everything like in a theater i was like oh world war one was actually super fucked up and they also show stuff and not that you didn't know that no not that i didn't know that world war one especially is very kind of romanticized in a gritty way yes and world war two i feel like so much of the imagery now was recontextualized by saving private ryan right the d-day sequence it made it uh blue yeah it like changed everyone's perspective from that was the cpl war to that's the blue war because i do think like a lot of movies romanticize a lot of both of those wars and this movie like they you watch them go to the bathroom you're like if you're in a trench war

how do you go to the bathroom and there's footage i go home of that that's rude going to the bathroom and you're watching it's like it's kind of like it is gritty but it's it's like honestly the most realistic experience yeah of what war back then there's an eerily like accurate i don't think i want to share it because it is like i'll share the anecdote but i don't think i want to share it because it is like i'll share the anecdote but i don't think i want to share the image because it's you know it's a private family thing but i have a portrait of my grandfather who died long before i was born so i never met him but he looks like a lot like me my white granddad respect to the the good side the hero um and he was in world war one he had a monkey that was an anecdote for some reason.

He was stationed in India, which, you know, I don't know, but like, you know, hey, sometimes England's not good. He was stationed in India, had a monkey. I don't think he was like generally involved in conflict. I think it was just like being stationed. But he had, he looked very much like me. And the way apparently he would talk about the war,

it wasn't so much reverence, but it wasn't particularly pained. He was like, well, World War, like World War II, he was too old for that service at that point, but he was like, yeah, World War II, we were like afraid. That was like, there was fear, there was rage, there was all this stuff. And then World War I, because he enlisted like very young, he was like 15 or whatever. And then he just like yeah world war one at least where i was stationed was

just kind of like you know the way my mom described it to me was that it was like awkward it was a because also nobody really knew what modern war was supposed to be it was all this machinery and like different than it had ever been before they were still using swords which is that's like if war started broke out like obviously there's a genocide going on but um if uh if a world war happened and then it was like ai right yeah it's like nobody knows what this thing is what what's real. Well, even like droids and stuff. Or drones, yeah. No, like the CIS from Star Wars prequels, yeah. If the Trade Federation invaded Naboo,

for example, and the Gungans were unable to push back their invasion, thank goodness for the Jedi. I mean, Order 66 would have looked real different. Yeah, dude. He recolorizes Order 66. It's real different. Yeah, dude. He recolorizes Order 66. It's 3D.

Anakin. Yeah, World War I was like, they still had horses, they still had swords, but they also had airplanes and tanks and bombs and mustard gas. You must have felt probably kind of frustrating to be the cavalry guy, trained your whole life, and you're like, what? No, come on. We can't. You have to reload it slowly

you just blew up my horse it's fair it's great it's cheating how did we even get to the war oh because we were talking about old things Mona Lisa was in it

yeah like sepia tone not being real yeah true true and then the Peter Jackson thing yeah Peter Jackson

I love to watch a movie I've made a little movie alright well we did a podcast thanks for listening everybody thanks for anastasia thanks to jacob thanks to thanks to the whole team you always work on the show i don't know why this would be an exception to that this episode is the first good one. Wait, what about any thanks to? Me, I fucking crushed this one. Okay. Funny as hell. Just one more person you got to mention.

Shout outs to Austin. No. He's always in there helping us with the edit. Keola, all over. I mean, we just got everything covered at this point. Okay, but who else is involved? Maybe a host? Yep.

Shout out to the hosts. And as we always say, let's hit it and quit it thanks to Jarvis we end every episode of Sad Boys with a particular phrase we let's hit it and quit yeah that is cool in our universe it's hit it and quit yeah we end it with a different phrase we love you. And we're sorry. Boom. Because I see in your fucking eyes that most of you don't fucking belong here. And I'll be dead.

I'll take this fucking knife off my fucking waist and carve this fucking tattoo. The Modern Knight Project should be like, Hello and welcome, my lord, to the Modern Knight Project. If you can't handle it, I'll withdraw my sword and carve my very wrist. Oh, do not try to poke or slash as I wear it chainmail. Thou squire shall never earn such armor as me.

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