Sad Boyz - Matt Rife Is Beefing With Children

Episode Date: December 16, 2023

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You ready? What? Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. I'm ready, yeah. Yeah, I was. You're ready? You were supposed to say.

Oh, I'm ready to go, baby. So no hesitation. You did. But you've got to introduce yourself. Did I stutter? Yes. Ah, okay. Yeah, you did. That's okay, yeah. Jordan. I'm Jordan. Yeah. you've got to introduce yourself did did i did i stutter yes ah okay yeah you're right okay yeah jordan i'm jordan yeah

uh it's a funny recording day because we jumped into it like a separate extra thing we'll record which we'll show you in a little bit but um during a little little classic jordan bathroom break you know you know what i'm like mr bladder over here uh we got caught up watching uh clips of george bush slipping up vocally and that clip man it's only fun because of hindsight yeah and i said this i said that i cannot watch the equivalent biden compilation because it will make me sad as he is currently in office. Yeah, it's like watching Saw. I'm watching this to make myself uncomfortable. It doesn't make him any less of a terrible person.

All my favorite war criminals. Welcome to Sad Boys. Welcome to... We got a saying in Sad Boys. It's probably in Texas boys it's probably in texas it's in tennessee as well it goes uh howdy it goes i love you i'm sorry um what's going on dog oh i like this yeah what's going on dog this guy's fine this guy's a jazz oh he doesn't even care about nothing dude how are you doing wait i just said how are you doing no so what's going on you can't just that's like um what's going on have you seen those things where it's like dudes are bad at texting oh yeah like i saw

a tweet that was like um my my friend dated a guy who was 6 10 and he just asked how are you three times in a row what's up how's what's up how's it going though how's like you just asked i just said it's going well dude sometimes i probably want to just open it i recently got uh drinks with evan uh our friend evan and i we hadn't caught up in a while and i just the conversation started up with what is up like at my very inorganic what is up and then he replied what's up dudes do not know how to communicate it's like a game of text who's gonna who's gonna duke and ask how we're doing dude how's your week going what's the week how's what's up how's your week my man so you can't just keep doing that week mode um has he weeped by the way my week

has been good it's a bit slower than i would like by my own doing but that's okay and i feel like something exciting is happening this week oh but it doesn't come to mind. It is for context. We are recording this on January 5th. January 6th is tomorrow. It is 2021. And we have got some plans. No. Okay. No.

We're just like planning holiday plans for the Savoy's team. Because the holidays are coming up. And we want to make sure that we're not making anybody work over the holidays or if we if anybody else isn't around that we make whoever is around work overtime with no pay exactly it's kind of a we're putting the finishing touches you hear that jacob yeah he gave a thumbs up he's calling a thumbs up. He's calling HR. My phone's ringing. You're suing me? Oh, Jordan, I have a big announcement. How's my week going?

It's going incredible. Okay. Because I have a huge, gigantic, exciting announcement. You've got to calm down, man. I'm so amped. You're being insane. Dude, I have one of those charged lemonades, dude, and I'm fucking, I'm fucking lit right now.

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like i've mentioned this before i think of the show but very early on it was we were big into achievable goals for the podcast and we also still worked in tech at the time so like what are our kpis how do we deliver on this right and one of the big long-term uh okay i'm also uh long-term, okay, arm also. Objectives and key results. Was doing a live show at any scale in any way. And then this was a bigger scale than I had anticipated back then. And it sold out and everyone was wonderful. And the guests were great.

The format was great. Just a proper chuckle. A proper good time. Yeah. Okay, here's something that happened i went to i went to dave and buster's recently for a birthday party and which is the correct adult place to have a birthday party it was a 10 year old's birthday birthday party we're a clown dave and buster were there um i uh i took an uber cause I was like, I'm going to like have a Bev. I'm going to have a little, uh, Patrick Beverly. Um, there's basketball.

I'm two in the NBA right now. Um, I got into this Uber person, you know, um, they start talking to me and I'm like, okay, cool. I can, I can deal. You know what? I'm, I'm feeling good today. I can chat a little bit. They're like, you're going to Dave and Buster's. I'm like okay cool i can i can deal you know what i'm i'm feeling good today i can chat a little bit they're like you're going to dave and buster's i'm like yes i am and they're like dave and buster's is kind of weird right because it's like it's for kids but also adults and i was

like yeah yeah that's true and i'm like they should just pick one and i'm like for sure and um you know how you're like i'm like you know you look the damn that's crazy you're giving him like the uber right they should make one just for kids where their parents aren't allowed to take them well they and then they were like uh yeah they should just lean into the adult thing they should get strippers this is a i should say because you're thinking of a picture in your mind of who it is and it's just like a you know mid-20s woman just saying it's time for strippers now yeah it's like you should you should have like i just want

to say it wasn't like a gross dude because that's what it sounds like so it was a little bit more like jokey and i was like okay because i think i would have taken it a different way if a a gross guy was kind of like they should have fucking strippers or whatever yeah that's a tricky one because it's like hey noble profession as as as cool as anything else odds to contrast it even though they're saying this is in the adult only scenario even introducing it in a in a building i associate with children is weird yeah yeah it's being like hey what if we did it at a preschool? I'm like, eh, just don't tie those thoughts. I was certainly immediately, I was already

a little bit uncomfortable before this even came up. And so at this point, I've just turned into smile and nod mode where I'm like, oh, yeah. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah, no, for sure. I love Trump. And then they said, if they have strippers, then no one will pay attention to the games. And I'm like, oh, yeah, you're right.

And she goes, well, that's an idea. Like she was having a conversation with herself. Yeah, dude. Somebody has a tight 10 they've been working on. Yeah, dude. No, seriously. I felt like I was a passenger in more ways than one. No, but seriously, these days they should really, I mean, they should just do that.

And she was like, well, that's an idea. They should have it so where if you get a high score in the game you get a lap dance and i was like with the tickets you're trading the tickets or like or like models are like near you or whatever and then and then she was like oh but but then nerds you know it's funny because like nerds have like never touched a woman it's very nice of her to identify you as not a nerd and so i know i was honestly i like nerds have like never touched a woman it's very nice of her to identify you as not a nerd and so i know i was honestly i was she i was like pumping my fists a little bit oh gosh she started doing a nerd voice and she went oh but i've never touched a woman

and then she goes sorry that was really offensive wow she like apologized She realized you were a nerd. And then I said, no, that was interesting. Funny. Fascinating. You know when like someone tells a joke and you say that's interesting and it's the wrong thing to say because you're telling a joke. It's all you have for them. I almost said it and I like caught myself. That's so, you said it. Yeah, that's so funny.

So funny. That was loud. But I do think that it's funny that nothing about what she said she thought would be offensive until she did a nerd voice i'm one of the like most punching sideways kind of yeah where it's like i owe me i don't know women i never touched like a nerd voice from like the 70s did i do that oh gosh okay let me see what else i wrote down about that because i wrote down notes is this i feel like the only thing i could do at that point was write down what was happening so that i could tell someone else about it um uh she said i wonder if other dave and busters have pool tables this is how

long was this right like 20 minutes this is a lot and i said i don't think this one has one and she goes oh i know i only go places with pool tables did you go to this david i don't know my notes sound insane dnb should have strippers uh david mustard doesn't know what he wants to be if there were strippers no one would play the games there's an idea bar with strippers and games if you get a high score you get a lap dance and then did a nerd voice. Felt awful. Oh, yeah. Regretted it. A lot of it sounds like she's trying to like it, like bring it up casually as a pitch for a restaurant.

She's actually trying to get funding. Yeah. What if we had like some sweet? Maybe we started something. I will say great driver. Five stars, you know, let me off right exactly where I needed to be let off. Maybe we start out or something. I will say great driver, five stars. You know, let me off right exactly where I needed to be let off. Knew the tips and tricks around the area.

Had some great feedback for David Buster. Had some great feedback. I mean, like, there was really no problem. It was just like a funny conversation. It is. I do think there is like a, there are very few scenarios where I want to challenge some, like an uber driver on a statement or even somebody just in a chair uber whatever because it's not so much like if they say something like ideologically offensive there's been a handful of times where i've had to like push back because like i've met some like like two different times and be like jordan peterson guys that are citing like studies that are uh offensive

and uh you know a little off-putting and it's not that i think you know i'm not making that classic lib mistake of well if they understood why racism is wrong then they would actually stop doing it it's just you know it's a little bit indulgent on my part but in most cases um just like you're describing there, yes ending. Look, we're probably never going to see each other again. Have I told the story about how I had a non-black barber cutting my hair and then they just dropped,

they like went on a long like conversation about how the N word should be okay to say. So brave. And then I have like, I have a razor to my head right now i this is not the moment that i can come up literally people just getting a people get offended over so it was like a matt rife situation oh yeah just and it's like a nothing come on inward it's just a word and every time i say inward he's just saying he's like it's just a word he's got joe rogan playing in the background Not a joke. He's mouthing along to it.

Yeah. It was, that was, that was truly wild. And those are the moments where I felt the most cowardly. But at the same time, I'm like, you know, you got to survive. My survival instinct. I think, yeah, fatality risk is, is, is, is kind of like kind of Trump. Yeah. But then we talk about them on the podcast.

Say his name. No. Let's get him today. We speaking of health risks. Speaking of living that Matt life with Matt Rife. Matt Rife. We watched this whole special. We did watch this whole special because he's on a tear.

He's on a tear. And I want to talk about that. But first, I want to pivot to something else because it's going to affect the rest of the show for us, which is the Panera situation. Oh, yeah. Because we want to get charged for talking about the mat life this has been in the news before but panera bread which is like the most like mid place to eat i used to live on top of a panera uh no when i interned in san francisco my apartment building had a panera on the ground on the ground floor like my apartment in soma or whatever that was like um the the housing for the interns

they should make a panera bread just for adults instead of bread there's like erotic dance yeah and i should be there hey i'm the king of panera don't do that voice um so uh anyway i used to eat a panera a lot and i don't like it but it was like right there and they've been mendocino beat panera a few months ago oh yeah for sure a few months ago there was a story about they've got this charged lemonade i want to say we even watched one of the original tick tocks or maybe I just watched it it but it was it's this lemonade that's like caffeinated but it's not clear that it's caffeinated and so people on tick tock we're learning that it's caffeinated after the fact and there's a tick tock of this woman I'm wondering Jacob is it the one on the left of like this woman like

finding out it's caffeinated like months ago and then like being like super wired? I learned something. Oh, yeah. It should be illegal. So this is so this is from December 2022, a year ago. And this went super duper viral. And we can just watch it. I have learned something that should be illegal.

100% should be illegal. So, and it has to do with this drink. Let me, give me a second. So I, a Panera. Oh, I cannot get, I cannot get myself straight. I work at Panera. No, I don't. I work, I work in a Panera.

I work in a Panera when I'm doing my work because I don't want to pay for a co-working space, but working at home makes me want to dig my own grave because I'm alone and I don't have human interaction. So, I work at my local Panera. Understand? And when I'm at my local Panera, they have free refills. This is the mango yuzu

citrus charged lemonade. Whoa, this is gonna be whirlwind. Okay? And it has caffeine. And I knew that, but when I'm sitting there, I'll drink four or five of the Jesus Christ. Man, when I work at Panera, I feel great. I feel awesome.

I feel charged. I feel charged. So my husband is a type one diabetic, so we were going through the drive-thru because I wanted one, and he was like, oh, I want some, and so he went to look up the nutritional facts about the drink so that he could have some and then adjust his blood sugar, right?

This, the regular size, the regular size has 82 grams of sugar, milligrams of sugar, grams of sugar. Whatever, let's put that aside. It has 260 milligrams of caffeine. That's crazy.

They like remind me of Liza Koshy in 2014. For one shot of espresso. I don't drink coffee. I don't have caffeine very much. I thought. I love looking at Panera. Every day I wake up with a huge headache. Yeah.

So shout outs, by the way, just to like, sometimes people are people are like hey what is the experience of being depressed how do i know what it's like to get in the mind of someone else if you want to feel hypomania i think this covers it she's speaking exactly like i would when i'm manic wait can you i want to shout out this creator because first of all she's hilarious but also this was the first time i heard about the panera stuff a year ago yeah um i'm willing to bet by the way that there's some sarah sarah sarah sarah haybouse shout out to sarah haybouse s-a-r-a-h-e-b-a-u-s uh yeah shout out to them i bass s a r a h e B a u s yeah just I am willing to bet there's some comments like well what did you think it says charge well that's

okay this is actually this is actually a part of the issue so in the in the year since there have been two fatalities as a result of drinking the charged lemonade. And seemingly from people that maybe like should not have consumed that much caffeine, but did not know how much caffeine they were consuming. Charged lemonade. We have this down here. Charged lemonade is not labeled as an energy drink and it's served alongside other non-caffeinated drinks, which is one of the big issues here.

The large size, 390 milligrams of caffeine, which is almost the max amount recommended by the FDA. Now, people who drink a lot of coffee could be hitting this number, but I think the issue is the lack of communication that people don't know what they're putting into their bodies. And there could be risks and side effects to that. And you know what you're looking for. It's a little like alcohol.

It's like I know I'm drinking alcohol, but I also know what to expect from my body. And I know when it's telling me that I've had too much or i'm going too fast same with caffeine so you know two shot espresso for me comfortable latte for the day could have a little more later in the day but i have that extra two shots and i know it's too much i'm shaky oh for sure i didn't know that i was having that much i was just just like, hey, here's like a coffee. There's like some caffeine in it. I guess we'll figure out whatever. And then I, or, you know, worse yet, I didn't know there was any caffeine in it.

You know, for whatever reason, I got told it was decaf. I don't think I'd be as aware of when I started getting shaky. I'd be like, do I have low blood sugar? What's going on with me right now? When, uh, when I was trying, when I was trying to figure out which ADHD medication would work the best for me, I was taking Adderall. And one of the side effects of Adderall for me, and for a lot of people is like a lot of sensitivity to caffeine. And I was at an airport and I probably told the story before, but I was in an airport and there are two popular brands of root beer. One of them has caffeine. The other doesn't, uh, barks and A&W. One of them has caffeine that cannot currently tell you which one has caffeine, which one doesn't.

It might've changed. Yeah. And, um, and I got a root beer cause I was like craving a root beer and I was not thinking about the caffeine content however i started to feel like i was in the movie crank and my heart was like beating out of my chest and this was just a sign that adderall was not for me you know it's like the side effects were a little too great i think if i had any caffeine i was like hypersensitive to it but yeah because my caffeine tolerance went down but i still can yeah and that's like me with vibans it's like my caffeine tolerance went down but i still can yeah and that's like me with vibans it's like my caffeine tolerance goes down but i still can't asmr is just luck yeah and so

that is my experience with like not knowing that i was consuming caffeine and then having side effects and i was just drinking a little bit like there's not that much caffeine and soda in the soda so which is another reason i think this is so remarkable it's like even if you see it's charged like whatever i know i drink maybe a little too much diet coke i'm a little bit of a i'm a coke head you could say i know there's caffeine in diet coke but i don't drink it with the explicit the explicit goal of getting energy because the caffeine quantity in the one bottle or one can that i have is just it's not like yeah not really a game changer for me i if i could buy diet coke in that quantity and by the way for some of our uh uh folks not looking at the video

uh be it by choice or they or they can't it's huge this is an american soda like old school also free refills is wild because the majority of the last year they've just been sitting out at the you know you go to um a cafe or something they've got like a water dispenser um and and or there's like fountain drinks at like a mcdonald's or something like that or at a fast food place where it's just out there were like carafes of this just out yeah but dude that i mean we have it here it's the large size of 390 milligrams of of caffeine right yeah then uh it's it's almost the max amount recommended by the fda yeah with free refills one free refill yeah you've eclipsed it you're getting into some dangerous territory like

you know some people drink a pot of coffee a day my technology teacher in seventh grade uh drink a pot of coffee a day and you just drink it from the pot he was a weird man good friend of us author friend of us, former Sad Boys guest. Can you figure it out? It's Lauren. There was, she loves diner coffee. Like she likes that experience. And so she will make that kind of pot, at least when we used to work together.

And she's, yeah, she's working on that through the day in a way that I find inconceivable, but works perfectly for her. I think maybe she didn't know it had caffeine in it. That might've been a little bit of a shock. And also she works at Panera. She doesn't work at Panera. She works inside the Panera. One of the critiques as well that contributes to the fact

that people don't know it's caffeinated. Like you said, some people are saying, oh, it's charged. So you should know. Charged doesn't always mean caffeinated like you said some people are saying oh it's charged so you should know charge doesn't always mean caffeinated people have said like it could be charged with flavor shots and you know charged with other things um i mean i know i know red bull is charged but that amount of charge is surprising to me also isn't there like there are other i think charge has been used in other products that

maybe aren't caffeinated electrolyte yeah yeah glucose boost so anyway um one of the criticisms uh additionally that contributes to not knowing it's caffeinated is that like energy drinks have like a chemically kind of like taste to them you know yeah um where you're like i'm you know what an energy drink tastes like it's like i can't tell you the flavor of red bull but i like caffeine i know that there's some caffeine in there i have to also it's like the the intensity of the smell yeah i crack a i'll crack a red bull here and there if i'm really lagging and when i crack it i go like oh the unleaded this is unleaded energy there goes the smell of my living room yeah and so there have been some changes like i think i've been seeing a lot of um disclaimers and things put

out near the near the the drinks which are very like haphazardly done and very inconsistent and it's usually like some like black and white photocopied like kind of easy to ignore thing that says warning this is not if you're pregnant or like a child don't drink this maybe not a solution implemented by panera but by like in the franchise or like very haphazardly introduced by panera because panera has responded after you know their people have died as a result of consuming this which is i guess what it takes yeah to take responsibility god i'm drinking four of those while you're working oh poor thing i would have independently gone to the hospital and been like i need to see my gp because something is

generally wrong with you i'm just shaking a lot at the end of each day. Yeah. But I feel great when I'm working at the hair. I mean, honestly, if you didn't, if one of the main things that a bipolar 2 diagnosis is because at the time i was not drinking much caffeine and i would describe like uh symptoms that i did not know i didn't even know that there was a second version of bipolar at the time and i'd be like well it's not severe enough to be bipolar so like it's not that i think maybe i can have this much caffeine still but i'm also getting this thing where like, you know, I'll just stay up for like two days at a time. I guess it's just my lifestyle.

It's my weird caffeine. And then, you know, I'll have one day where I'm like, we should start three bands today. And like, you know, in retrospect feels very clear, but I feel like if I wrote on my intake form, like, yeah, I don't really drink caffeine. I have like a couple of lemonades here and there, but then, you know, I did a little work at a, I was was gonna call it cabela's whatever this is

every day and then um i get extremely intense and excited and then i get home and i'm miserable every single day it feels like an episode of house where they're like trying to figure out what's wrong with this patient be in a statement be. In a statement to USA Today, Panera Bread denied any wrongdoing, saying, and I guess they have to deny it because otherwise they could be liable for damages. Saying, Panera expresses our deep sympathy for Mr. Brown. This is in reference to Dennis Brown, one of the victims. But that based on its investigation, the company believes his unfortunate passing was not caused by one of the company's products. I mean, caused by like, it's like a negligence thing right like it's like a un like probably unaware i don't know how you would it's not like this is poison it's just like

and also it's not the first death this was the second one no yeah there's the second fatality from this oh Oh, no. The drinks are also included in Panera's lineup of eligible items for their unlimited sip club. That's fucking horrible. I mean, that's just not even. Look, I don't even. Let's say there were no. Neither of these deaths occurred. Right.

Let's just say that there's some scenario prior to both of those. That's just professionally irresponsible it's negligent it's just yeah don't give people infinite access to a shit ton of caffeine with yeah i don't even know i guess like get the the uh ingredient information without going online and looking it up yeah i'm not sure it doesn't say it on the it doesn't say it on the carafe uh but yeah there's a membership that allows patrons to pay a subscription fee for refills at no cost and the thing is it reminds me of the four loco problem because the issue isn't that like the issue is that caffeine combined with alcohol for four loco makes you think that you're more lucid than you are

and it represses some of the symptoms of drunkenness so then you can over drink. So if it's like a carafe of coffee, you start to, your mouth starts to feel weird. You're like, oh, I know that I'm drinking straight caffeine when I'm drinking coffee. So I- It's acidic, you're getting hit with that feeling.

Yeah, and so I know not to just keep pounding it unless that's my goal. And the same goes for these energy drinks, whereas this lemonade just tastes like a refreshing lemonade, allegedly. And so, of course, that would be that's something where it's it's a little bit more hidden. It's a little bit harder to keep track of your consumption. I just think that they should have like much more warning labels on this or just reduce the caffeine why is it that much i but the the thought is that it makes people have a positive association with panera and that makes them more return customers yeah if you don't go to panera you get a headache yeah exactly so with all that being said we have the mango yuzu we have this thing and they advertise the fucking join with my panera unlimited sip club which we got today by the way after all of this news it does still all the sips that's crazy dude wait they advertise drink it fast there's no time they advertise the sip club and all the sip drink as much as you want a link straight to the the guzzle it down gallons can be yours keep drinking it or something wrong will happen um maybe you'll get fired for being too bad at work it's strangely it feels like on one hand

i i get the criticism that says like it's just a caffeinated beverage what's the big deal i understand where those people are coming from but never have i seen all the sips like keep drinking thirsty i mean it's so deliberate i mean it just seems crazy to me here i'll give you this one this one's uh i'll pull up the flavors we actually went to panera so it's now behind the counter it's not i don't know i know at some places it was out and at some places i've seen uh photos with like chains on it and shit um i don't know why that was um so that's the blood orange and this is the mango yuzu citrus but it's behind the counter now and it says contains oh yeah that's the one oh those are just chains around the they're just things but i don't like that that seems yeah okay those are the kind of change you see on a ghost. It should be labeled as an energy drink.

I don't know if I ever saw a gallon of Red Bull that would feel like a bad idea. You know what I mean? I just don't... A cup of this size? Or if you went to a restaurant, they were like, free refill club for Prime. Yeah. Infinite Prime.

Yeah, you get a backpack and you can just slurp it like one of those water backpacks yeah like a camel yeah um just filled to the brim with red bull so it says contains caffeine consume in moderation okay that's it a little bit in contrast with the uh the unlimited sip club drink in unlimited moderation all the sips is very opposite of of drinking moderation that's almost like a a joke like it's like that's an arrested development joke right yeah it's like uh we told them they have to drink in moderation they did not say they had to drink in moderation yeah all the sips All the sips is crazy. I'm sorry. It's just,

it's also not great. All right. I've already had caffeine today, so I am, this is not wise. I'm not going to drink this one fucking thing. Consuming in moderation.

But one thing I'm looking out for is whether or not it tastes like it's caffeinated. You want to do the same thing? Yeah, let's do it. Jarvis Mango Jordan blood. Here, cheers. Ow. Jarvis Mango Jordan blood. Here, cheers. Oh.

It's very sweet. I would never in a million years guess that I had caffeine. Because I'm distracted by all the sugar that's in it. Yeah, no, that tastes like a juice bar, like hotel breakfast. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I just need some OJ, whatever. Yeah, it kind of does.

You can go to Target or whatever and get one of those one-gallon jugs of juice for the family. Just pour it out and concentrate. Yeah. That tastes exactly like you could cut this with half water and it would probably still be something that you could it's watery as fuck dude i mean i am drinking this and being like this is i can see sipping away on this because it does not stay in your palate no no i mean this is refreshing like you could pound this easy which is not an endorsement of this drink by the way oh they do have now it does look like these

new labels have the caffeine on them okay that's good um it's very tiny i mean maybe they should cover up some of the sips or just what about just sip yeah how much does it cost to not use that well they're like we make so much money on the unlimited sip club yeah it's true just take the take this out of the unlimited sip club maybe how about just the sip club how about just sip club also why are we i i don't know i don't know i'll be honest with you a monthly subscription to get unlimited refills i there's something off about that to me i'm not a huge juice man. Yeah. But. OJ the juice man.

I mean, that's the only OJ I really connect with the most. You know what I mean? I love Naked Gun. Oh. Did something happen? Yeah. Anyway, I was in a coma for 30 years. I don't really like the way this tastes.

Let me try yours. You should try mine. I'm going to try yours. Mine tastes good i mean like it's like they i do not think the taste will be affected if they just fucking took the caffeine out oh this tastes even less like caffeine though this just tastes like oh no no yours is fucking water yeah there's oh no no no that is crazy yeah no this just this tastes like a kid soda like yeah juice juice no this is this is a, no, this tastes like a kid soda. Like a juice juice. No, this is a juice.

This is like a juice box juice. This tastes like the sweetness I would compare to Hawaiian Punch. Yeah. You know, the guy with the red hair and the big jugs with the blue label? That Hawaiian Punch, that's the level of sweetness we're talking about. This actually is very watery that feels kind of like the experience you have like a long island iced tea where it's just designed to get as much alcohol into the sweetest possible thing yeah it tastes like that or like a

teenage house party drink where it's like what do we have i don't know just like we have a shit ton of cranberry juice and bitters these are these are completely different flavor profiles this tastes like a a water that is flavored like it tastes like it should be like 40 calories for the whole thing like a vitamin water so the fact that it is like 300 calories for the whole thing and then fucking four cups of coffee worth of caffeine is crazy. Jacob, how much is a regulation sized Red Bull? Caffeine wise. It's 160. It's 110.

110. That's so much less. It's insane. That's crazy. 110? Yeah. That's insane. What's an espresso espresso an average espresso shot like 100 i think 80 to 100 that would be my guess 64 for one shot okay so like oh yeah yeah yeah for like a latte or something that's how many did you say she had four four i think that's

yeah i think it was that that's like a dozen cups of coffee that's so crazy dude why is there that much caffeine in this every day she was doing this that's insane wild oh my god i mean that i think that's probably the defensibility argument they're using right is like well there's look plenty of people aren't aren't dying from it and it's like well yeah sure of course if most people were you definitely have stopped doing it but like do you remember the story? I don't really want to go into it too much because it is just like a very sad story. But there was an older woman that went through a McDonald's, got a McDonald's coffee, spilled it while driving. And it was like scalding hot. Yeah. annoying response to that or like very obnoxious response independent of what mcdonald said about

it was so many people online being like it's coffee well you know it's supposed to be hot i'm like right yeah but here's the thing is you know cars aren't supposed to crash so what but we do put the seat belts in don't we yeah not because it means it's fine to crash or and we don't put the seat belt and people go like oh i guess i can crash my car now also you're not supposed to make coffee at scolding you don't even have to yeah it's like 160 degrees fahrenheit 180 degrees crazy but like to be at boiling point or like past that is is is on it's bad for the coffee and it's bad and it's bad for the safety it should not be able to happen anyway yeah i mean it's the truth is is that monolith companies like this do this kind of shit because it ultimately doesn't matter and

what's going to happen to panera even if they keep doing this i'm so scared to like accidentally like casually sip on this i'm putting it away it's um you know what it is it's not like so tasty that i'm like uh uh just sipping but if i was working at a panera doing my on my little laptop typing away typing emailing your doctor oh yeah like you just passively consume it i could put with my focus elsewhere yeah not talking about it which is what happens when you're like working there fucking yeah i'm not i used to have during the unlimited sip club dude you're sitting you're camping out at the fucking panera get your money's worth we're a couple phil's animals dude one of the reasons i tend not to work in phil's cafes is because i'll drink like a few

if i work for like a couple hours i like sipping and it's iced so i'm like oh you know this is fine it's water you know whatever and it's like a conscious decision because i'm focused on what i'm doing and i know that i can just casually consume it's like if i get popcorn at the theater i get the small one because i will just eat the large one and I'll feel sick. That's the thing where it's like I try to control the, you know, it's like, oh, you should have discipline. Oh, you should have a self-control. But you also control the environment to not like if you put a giant bag of candy next to your bed and your office and everywhere you are you would definitely eat more candy on average why does it have to be only willpower yeah why do you have to like get the flu and you just have to

be tough enough because we have a limited amount of attention and willpower and stuff so you tend to want to have an environment i can take it uh but you tend to want to have an environment that does not cause you to constantly work to avoid things and avoid cravings or whatever that's you know what's weird is if this was just a story about like they have this tasty drink with infinite refills and it's got the same amount of caffeine as a red bull or something it's so much more and infinite refills and at a place you wouldn't necessarily expect the you drink a red bull like five sips into this fucking thing a full caffeine's worth of uh all of red bull's caffeine in a few sips if i drink a red bull i treat it the same way as adderall like all right let's take a second see see what's gonna happen next i yeah when i'm drinking coffee i like pace myself and i don't like if i'm starting

to feel it too much i stop drinking the coffee dude and yeah and anyone making the argument of like oh it's charged is like okay but this is happening to people isn't it so you could you could make that claim if you want but i don't. It's a very libertarian way of approaching the world. Just like, oh, you know, let the market decide. Like, okay, I'm going to land on people not dying. Natural selection. Natural selection. Oh, boy, don't remind me.

Speaking of natural selection. Speaking of mid, mid comedy. We watched Matt Rife's special because he's in the news again. And I wanted to watch his special to get the full the full rife you know well who knows you know maybe the kind of crappy clips of his hackier cliched bits were over exaggerated maybe that's just the lowest common denominator it's like i've watched some of it before but i didn't watch the whole thing it turns out it is actually worse than i thought it was gonna be actually actually kind of, it's not even fun to laugh at.

Because what's bad about it is it's basically a middling to slightly below average. Just a Netflix hour. They make a lot of them. And the point is that they're appealing and the jokes are about airplane food or whatever. But the number of times he starts off a prep we were laughing at how predictable the there is a point there is a point where he is telling a joke and we're going to talk about the matt rife uh isn't why matt rife is in the, but there is a point in his special where he's telling a joke about being on an airplane.

And we're like, okay, here we go. And then, and then he, uh, says that he was like sitting next to a kid and he like sets it up and he's like,

and I was sitting next to, and we pause it. And it's like me, Jordan, Anastasia. And we're like, Oh, Oh,

where's this going to go? And then he's like a kid, like a-year-old and we're like easiest bit yeah his statement was the two worst people to be certain yeah and so he was like sitting next to a three-year-old and we're like oh i thought he was gonna say and like someone who was heavy like a heavyset person. Or a fat person. And he gives it a little bit of breathing room to talk about this annoying kid. And then he's like, and the dad was 400 pounds. Didn't let us down. Didn't let us down. The fat phobia went crazy in that thing.

He's randomly talking in a black scent like the whole time, which I found really interesting. Because it's not like uh he talks like that in any interviews or anything like that it's his onstage cadence it's like an impression of like a uh deaf comedy jam performance even ending like how kinetic he is on stage as well it's just it's it's he's emulating like a very specific type of comedy that's very 90s early 2000s and even like he's like a slightly less manic version of dane cook with weaker premises he i don't know there is this uh i've been trying to figure out what frustrates me so much about it i think it's very boring and annoying when

people get caught up in cancel culture and the whole last third of the special is just him basically doing that drill tweet of i'm not owned he does talk about you will talk about the last three books about late trolls online he talks about trolls so it's so hack it's so overdone these trolls they have no life and they're so mad at me but you know i don't watch most netflix hours because that's kind of the game i get it it. I'm not the audience for a lot of those specials. You know, whatever. There,

you know, as we know from his statements on Talon Motor's podcast, haters will become your waiters. The only reason that anybody dislikes him or hates on him is because we are jealous of him.

We're jealous of him succeeding in a career that we've never aspired to do or work towards. But hey, we're jealous and that's what matters. We're actually very jealous. We're molding about it. But there's something frustrating to me, however valid or invalid it might be,

about someone who is um what's his name uh trading in authenticity that kind of being a portion of the game and so much of his crowd work stuff which he seems to resent that being what he is known for which is okay i mean you post it dog relax i think he is generally stronger at crowd work stuff. He absolutely is. Because he's a charismatic guy that's pretty quick on his feet. And engaging with an audience means that, like, you know, audiences very rarely go, yeah, what's the deal with airplane food? You're not going to get a hacky premise. The problem is, is he's so clearly, he's not not pulling not to speak on his life but the way the anecdotes he

tells feel like there's no life worth commenting on yeah all of his anecdotes and all of his setups all of them and i mean every single one is in the top 20 most overdone shit it's weird it's like it's like a set so strangely predictable that at any point you could think about what the lowest common denominator joke is for every situation including the situations themselves um and it's like he hits the mark every single time and there's no connective tissue which plays even more into the point of like okay well i'm done with that overdone yeah which is like an old which is I'm done with that overdone. Yeah. Which is like an old,

which is old school, right? Like that's how like a lot of the old standup hours are. It's like, which I think is his, that's this weird, like disparate tone between wanting to be like, Hey,

I'm online. I'm a little different. And maybe I'll do a little crowd work, but also I got some crazy ideas and this fame's gone crazy. And then his stand-up bit being it's more out of date than most like 40 50 year old comedy podcast guys yeah they have him on his show in a weird way it's clearly like a super fan and he's like he's the women huh what's going on with these guys the word they drive like this and i drive like that to his credit he has all of the qualities that you need to be a successful stand-up comedian

um but his like stat loadout is like he's like um like a 99 on everything except for premises and joke writing yeah yeah and that his whiz is very low wisdom and dexterity is very low he's not jumping around with new ideas it's so weird because um he he even kind of prophesizes something that just happened which is what we'll talk about so um matt is in the news now because he uh he like left a comment like a six-year-old kid who happens to be the child of this influencer bunny hidea um made a stitch to a netflix to a netflix um tiktok so it wasn't like matt rife's tiktok it was like the netflix is a joke account or whatever or the at netflix that's right with a clip of a clip of his stand-up and it's um matt rife is doing his like transformative groundbreaking material about how uh women are into astrology and that's

wacky and weird and crystals and like honestly dude what people don't understand is the guys watch porn yeah and what is the joke it's like just just because jupiter has a ring or jupiter doesn't have a ring wow what does he say just because jupiter has rings doesn't mean that you that you isn't why you don't isn't what you should because like marriage or whatever yeah because jupiter has a ring and you don't oh right yes you're mad because jupiter has a ring and you don't nice and um and then this child was like it's you know uranus that has rings or something like that or no it's uh saturn saturn that has the ring which to be when we say child emphasis on child they are six years old six years old which honestly shout outs to like singing someone so well at six and i i'm going okay everything on the internet has told me and every like source that's connected this has told me this

is a real thing that he commented so i am going with the uh understanding that this is a real thing that he commented if it comes out somehow some way that this is not real then we at least said this but uh what he has done in the past is uh he tweeted he made fun of mason ramsey the like yodeling kid um and so we'll show that also but um so he has made fun of children before on the internet and and has kind of a prolific history of he's actually like for someone that thrives usually in crowd work he's very bad off the dome when it comes to social media but he does uh brag about his clapback game in his stand-up the last third of it is about how he like people gang up on him online and he's like if you're gonna go for me then i'm to go for the jugular.

But I'm not upset about it. I'm actually laughing. Yeah. He's like, but it doesn't get to me. My therapist, though, says that I'm reactive to and defensive. I guess. But it doesn't bother me. I'm actually even thinking about that idea is so funny to me.

I'm crying about something else. Nothing to do with the stars, man. Just because Jupiter has a ring and you don't, doesn't mean. It has sarin duster rings and it has more also. And you're mean to girls. First of all, pound. Yeah. Body.

Devastating. Bearing in mind that this guy is genuinely like visibly upset when some people online are like, hey, you should like maybe not be cruel to flight attendants. Boy, oh boy, is he not receptive to zingers from a six year old. Zingers from someone that's like just starting spelling bees um okay so anyway so that's the tiktok and it's just a kid in a onesie being a cute kid in a onesie whatever so what if he's wrong my instinct obviously is you know i have to destroy this child with facts and logic uh maybe that's inspired by his stand-up special where he says he gets defensive and he has to go for the kill. I have a very quick trigger reaction to feel the need to defend myself if I feel like somebody's coming at me, right?

And I go for the kill every time. Yeah, but he's actually, Jarvis, what you don't understand is these trolls online. These trolls, they're ganging up on him including children and they're i mean correcting something and then saying he's mean to which he is um which is you know i'm not policing like the politics of his standard that i'm just not even particularly interested in his ideology but it is like yeah man that's the you are you are being mean to women that's what the bit is what is the god this fucking zinger from our life all right so he says jupiter also has ring first of all the the okay the spelling mistakes in this are so funny because

it feels like he just like he was in a hot rage sweat and tears in his eyes like had to rip it out you know i'm not crying so look you can talk your shit to me online as much as you want but just know i'm gonna fuck you up verbally um jupiter also has ring oh and santa claus isn't real no is santa claus not real your mom buys you presents with the money she makes on only fans good luck wacky like face yeah dude i'm not i do not discriminate against women by the way it is bad to have only fans it's like what he's saying weird and and this is a person that does not have only fans and it's like a large content creator in their own right and so it's just inaccurate so it's like it's just wrong so if you um if you're going to if your own of the six-year-old

is that his facts are wrong then you cannot in turn respond with an incorrect statement two two back to back yeah because i get like the thing is not to be uh and santa claus is real santa claus is not really santa claus is real right right right i not to be a pedant about it but like technically no planet has rings that's like it's it's a phenomena of like observation right like we we in the way that we capture images of planets there are like phenomena that look a certain way that anyway it's not important matt rife's closer in a special is like 15 minutes of him justifying why he why he sent a woman a fat phobic comment yeah it's like kind of crazy how much he tries to justify it um but the whole thing being like he the whole thing starts with him being upset that his bag doesn't fit um in the overhead bin

or in front of him which is his own doing it's his fault dude and so he puts you imagine that planes man it's crazy and he puts it behind his legs and then a flight attendant says you can't do that no one can no one can it's a plane there are rules on this plane and uh and then he took to twitter this is in the special he took to twitter to complain about the rule and he also i don't believe that in real life he was rude to the flight attendant but he presents as if he was rude to the flight attendant and then he takes to twitter and you know he took to twitter because he felt like he was rude to the flight attendant. And then he takes to Twitter. And you know he took to Twitter because he felt like he was in the right.

Yeah, of course. And he goes and complains about this rule. And then no one agrees with him because he himself is Karen posting. And then his conclusion at the end is, well, actually, it's because everyone is so mean online. Whereas in the scenario where everyone agreed with him, it's like, oh, I was based, actually. There's no scenario where he's wrong. The people disagreeing with me have nothing going on in their lives. That's like literally the thing he said in his special and on that Tana Mongeau podcast.

They're actually jealous of me. And haters will become my waiters. And also uh without going into it that tana mojo podcast has publicly said fuck matt rife recently which is which is wild um so he is speed running uh becoming public enemy number one in the content zone it's it is a little sad um only in the sense that like he was kind of a you know it's like a straight white dude in comedy it's not the freshest thing but he was like uh tonally kind of fresh he's a relatively young guy in a more traditional stand-up space doing well and having exploded off of tiktok

those are all interesting things right and to see the journey kind of end in such a uninteresting way not not the journey of his career but like the development of his work and it seems so unreceptive to feedback in an industry with like laughterous feedback man like that's that's what you are here for dave chapelle too soon yeah like it's like you you do that after you've built a generational career you have to be a multi multi-millionaire and then you're then you lose touch and at least we can go like all right right like yeah it's so weird like he he he like lost touch as if he is a 60 year old comedian who has only been famous his entire life at this point who's

been famous for the last 30 years i mean i talked about in the past i like ricky gervais's first two specials as and they there's still you know fucked up elements in them now in retrospect but they dropped in the uh mid-2000s like transformative for me like really important there's still little cadences and voices and jokes i'll do that are like very clearly gervais and steven merchant influenced steven merchant still still pog jam thumbs up good stuff very long and also from uh middle england so shout out sounds even more like a pirate than i do he uh gervais's first two specials genuinely excellent the second one in particular is like him becoming being quite self-conscious about his growth and his platform and like stuff like that and he's treating it with like no reverence at all he's like it's like

it's it's nice having money or whatever but you know hey what the hell is this this is so stupid other celebrities like why do we have any pride? This is bullshit. And then the moment I fell off of it, I think the third one is fine. I don't remember particularly well. The fourth special, which I think is the first Netflix special, is the one where it completely disconnected from it. And it is within the first 10 minutes. He talks about trolls on Twitter and he starts reading his own tweets oh and reading people i mean that's kind of what matt rife does in his special it is it is so it is such a bummer to see someone especially as i don't know like i feel like if you grow up online you just especially

active content creation online grow a spine dude you have to have a little bit of tolerance for that what the hell are you gonna how are you in a career about people liking and like successes people laugh and they connect with what you're doing failures they don't laugh and they aren't connecting with it yeah you are like like being a stand-up comedian is a crucible it's like that constantly happening you cannot be this soy in this it's a weird like condition but can't take it situation why why did you choose this yeah don't do this career the thing is like there are people who are made fun of for no reason you know what i mean like justin bieber when he was a 13 year old boy or like britney spears well the reason is outside

of them yes it's a society's problem especially with music it's usually girls listen to this and that's bad exactly yeah um but the but matt rife is like not one of those people like when he's being made fun of there is a critique there's a core criticism at the root of it and he seems to be unable to reckon with that being a real valid critique that's annoying to him in a way that like it's never fun receiving feedback it's never pleasant it's it's about it it's a it's okay if your adrenaline to go up when you get it but if it's good faith criticism or even if it's not constructive criticism but it is a like overwhelming consensus that the people don't like what you're doing yeah there is something

valuable to be taken from both and sometimes it is also healthy to evaluate how bad faith the criticism is and say, well, actually, this is an invalid person. This is clearly actually a hate watcher. This is like a drama alert viewer that just like hates this person because they, you know, whatever. But it's not always the case yeah in fact pretty often it is somebody with like you have to agree with them but you need to yeah you should not be replying to the six-year-old at all but you certainly shouldn't be doing it so fast that you misspell santa claus it's yeah it's a thing where he self-reports in his stand-up about his tendency to do this so it's funny seeing it like play out in real time um and also uh it's similar to what happened with the the first response that he did

yeah um uh the can we pull up the mason ramsey one as well because this is another funny funny one so this one this one dates back this one dates back to uh 2018 so is that how old this is yeah oh wow i didn't realize that so this is coming up on well let's say it's three and a half wait hold on sorry five and a half years ago jesus four and a half years ago there we go i'm so young um and oh my god it's five and a half years i'm i my brain kept farting sorry five and a half years ago so matt ripe was only 23 ish gonna give him he was young yeah and mason ramsey was uh an adult he was he was a child i don't know what it is with him even with children but i mean he seems to keep thinking he could take them on and then losing mason ramsey tweeted

who's like the yodeling kid right like he tweeted with post malone congratulations probably a reference to both the post malone song and then maybe post malone winning it looks like it's at an award show i'm not even sure probably for beer bums mentalities is it should have been um and then matt rife quote tweeted this unprovoked which is so funny because he makes this whole thing about defending himself but like this one's fucking non-provoked this is why even at all uh he also misspells forehead what's going on man uh he says fucks on your forehead question mark some gum listen love to always love to see someone kind of AAVing up their tweets. Oh, my brother. That makes it cool.

His fucking entire special is in a black scent. That's really weird. It's weird. He talks more. He talks like fucking. He talks about black people in his special more than black people. Oh, yeah. Black stand-ups do.

It's crazy. It is a. Again, it's another thing that reads like, oh, you're just. You're a. You're Kakashi. You're the're the copy ninja yeah there is nothing original happening here you're just like it's like alchemy it's weird like i get the people it's like oh why are you making it a race thing it's just like specifically watch that stand up and look at how many times black people are brought up for no reason it's quite strange there's a joke that he has that's about him being like about a ghost coming out of his closet and making and saying it was scary in two ways because gay people are scary is the joke and then also it's a ghost but then

uh who's the ghost that he he gives the ghost an identity the identity lol nas x this scariest thing lol nas x is alive um and then like he there's a thing he mentions rosa parks he mentions like 12 big black dudes when he's uh when he's talking about um scaring off ghosts there's a whole bit about ghosts and monsters it is some like it's just hacky it literally is just like if it weren't for the production value and the fact or production value style and the fact that it's on netflix you could degrade this footage a little bit and just tell me it was from like 2008 yeah it's just weird like just the choices are odd that's that's really all it is.

But anyway. It's almost very insecure. I guess that's the last thing I'll say about all that is that it is just like a, he never leaves any time, at least in the edit, which they do have agency over. He never leaves any time for a build up to a laugh. The setups always have to have faces and asides. And that can work if the premise is really strong and worth playing with but instead it's just like some man walks into a bar bro it's okay that people aren't laughing right now so um mason ramsay then responds quote tweets it obviously the tweet is not available because he deleted it because obvious reasons are about to unfold.

He said, it's a birthmark. Not all of us are perfect. Zing, perfect. Banger. Yeah, dude. Also, he's a child. Leave him alone. And then Matt Rice's response, the backtracking is fucking crazy, dude.

You are perfect, bro. Was genuinely curious, LOL. I've got your new single on repeat, little man. Keep doing big things. I'm actually a really big fan. Dude, actually, you're amazing. Hey, Jarvis, nice face, you fucking idiot. And then you reply just like, why would you say that?

I'm actually a huge fan, man. I'm really sorry. I mean, I responded like this when we talked about the guy who bought the Power Ranger costume. Oh, yeah. And then he listened to the show and we're like, dude, you're a legend. But we were never making fun of him. We were always saying he was a legend. Yeah, we were like, and it's like, I can understand how you could maybe see it that way. But ultimately, we were like, oh, this is just a wild thing that happened.

And it is funny to see his initial reaction. But the fact that he's like an adult who's like leaning into his childhood things. I have fucking a Power Ranger toy right there. Like, I'm right there with him so it's it's very sweet and yeah there is a like there can be a middle ground between laughing at and laughing with where it is a like uh laughing through like whoa loma surprise like shock it's like wow i've not really watched anything like this guy doing this or like if the baba's guy who fucking choked on boba and didn't know what it was like if he saw the clip of us laughing at it uh we would still i would with a full conscience be

able to say that he's a fucking legend yeah but he also posted the tiktok and he knew and he was a good sport about like the reaction rules but which rules but this he's clearly shitting on him and he really does hit him with the like excuse me fine sir i do i apologize you actually win the internet today actually i'm your biggest fan you are okay well first of all don't say you're perfect to a child this is your child and they've got like low self-esteem or something don't say you are capital a-r-e yeah you are perfect bro to a child you don't know that you're also just make you man it's so funny how he code switches too yeah like your fuck's on your forehead some gum and then he goes he gets upset and like sensitive.

And he goes, you are perfect, bro. Was just genuinely curious. Lol. I've got your new single on repeat, little man. Keep doing big things. All right. I would safely say no replying to children. I would just say no making fun of children.

Yeah, no swigging at them. I feel like if a kid is like, hey, big fan, you could be like, hey, big fan of you. Yeah, I don't know. But anyway, so that's the Matt Rife moment. I can't believe we're talking about him again. But it's like become a weird fascination of mine that I hope isn't getting, you know, over the top. I think people,

I mean, we should, it's a, it's a very specific crossroads of our interests. Yeah. And also I think shit that we have, uh, we feel like somewhat informed positions on because it is. Yeah.

But yeah, people had conflicts online, not the same kind sure same reason but there's you know seeing that dialogue with a lot of friends that have gone through similar dialogues and we have a lot of uh friends that do stand-up and we're a lot it is and we go to a lot of live stand-up shows from professionals and from up-and-coming stand-ups and we care about comedy sure and i don't i mean it's i'm sure maybe maybe this doesn't read maybe it does i don't know i am not a bit when it comes to like the offense of a comedy or like the

offensiveness of a bit or something i may align with it being like i don't know if that was appropriate or i could be pretty lax with it i'm like yeah whatever i'm let me just hear the bit first but if that i don't care about that whenever the the parts about like uh he's making fun of domestic violence i'm like that is very common in stand-up and i don't think he has to be the avatar of that conversation it is a it's a valid criticism to make right that's not kind of specifically a problem that he's bringing in he's doing that because he is does not know where to go other than punching down he doesn't understand that there are other ways to engage with and critique and self-critique crazy does the fucking like yeah my therapist says i'm pretty defensive we were i know for a second we were like wait introspective introspective but then this she was heavy and it was literally all

a justification for punching down which is like any he goes i know you're supposed to i know you're supposed to uh you know take the high road but when 700 people are ganging up on you that's an internal narrative telling you that 700 people are not ganging up on you that's an internal narrative telling you that 700 people are not ganging up on you you tweeted a bad take and people had a response but that's like that's like just if you want to leave the tweet up then do it if you want to delete it then do that but what you cannot do is start randomly shitting on people who disagree with you well they hate him because he's as good at comedy or whatever his reason was also even in the even in the canon of his stand-up the reason for fat shaming this woman was her saying that he's like an insufferable little bitch yeah a pretty like like well yeah i mean more than anything is a do you what is the this was the

one that upset you is this is a person that just doesn't like you they're not even saying you know jupiter doesn't have rings or whatever i'll just say i've been i've been i've been playing around with i've been trying to remove the b word from my vocab i'm i'm giving a literal quote there but i don't know That may not matter to some people, but I feel the same way about saying crazy as a word. Like I I'm very context aware and I'm not ever going to say to a person you're being crazy or something like that. But I understand that people think that that should be removed entirely from language. And for me, right now where I'm currently at, I sometimes use it to describe situations.

I try to replace it with wild almost all the time, but I've said it, but it's fine. I mean, it's not for me to decide if it's fine for you, but for me and my developing perspective on this, I understand where it comes from, but I do think that context matters and I'm not overusing it. It's like sometimes it comes out,

I'm trying to avoid it, but I'm not beating myself up if it happens. You know what I mean? Yeah, and hey, we've talked about it before but there's always an impulse i think when there's a some kind of public platform or there are people that could give feedback to want to uh justify habits and behavior yeah i it is not a principle of mine but i but I am going to continue calling things insane. And I, partially because I am, and so that feels like some defensibility.

But I'm going to continue saying it because I don't think it's objectively fine. It's not that I can give it a full thumbs up wholeheartedly. It is at exactly the same level as me buying all my furniture on Amazon. Yeah. Where I am. I do not ethically agree with what I'm doing. And I care a little less than that. Yeah.

It does feel like as public figures, it's like I want to be responsible with my platform and my voice. But at the same time uh i'm working on so many things and i'm trying my best tm uh january 6th sale everybody for the merch and i can only stop and i can only handle what i can handle and i'm trying i think as long as i'm trying i know that i won't always be do the best for everyone or do what everyone expects of me, but I know that I'm doing what I can and the consequences like will come, you know, as they, as they may. But on Chadvice, I got a lot of very kind comments and a lot of them were calling me eloquent, which is so crazy to me because, oh, crazy.

There you go. That's insane. Which is so ridiculous to me because I almost never feel like I know what I'm saying or that I, the ADHD thing happens where I get in the middle of a sentence and I go, where am I? Where is this going? And I was trying really hard in the moment to give people my best and be an active listener and try to provide the best advice that I could. And I'm really glad that it was received well. But it is one of those things where someone says says like i like your jacket it's like i hate it it's too small and it makes me look like a weird guy yeah that's really nice of you but you hate it too yeah we both hate me actually as well so it's i'm trying to i try to shut down that voice and uh thanks for all the kind words i've gotten um uh about that and you know not to butter

your bread you know we're friends i love you and i would always i would always try and be a sweet kind boy but i do think you are legitimately a very eloquent and measured person with your words more more measured than me certainly and i i think that's one of the reasons that the podcast is so easy for me to do because i i feel as though structurally you're a much more sound you're more articulate and consistent with the way you structure what you say and i can be a little bit more flimsy which i think in contrast and in dynamic works well but i when it comes to the adhd hopping around or pausing stuff i think think that's a little like how the Flash sees the world. Where we're getting lost in it and thinking and hopping around so quickly.

I work at Panera. I am Panera. I am bread. And then we listen back to the footage and we're like, oh, that pace was fine. Real quick. And it's one of the things where it's like we've lived in our own bodies and and talk to each other for many years so it's easy to dig into the minutiae when the average person is a casual listener who is just like oh i'm just listening to the guys i like um but one i want to say thank you for that and two i want to say i have always thought that you were extremely eloquent and well-spoken and also very funny uh handsome 63 by the way um no big deal

yeah yeah so those are things that i think it goes both ways and it's mutual i think that yeah i mean that's what makes the podcast easy true i think i like too that we're hanging out more have you noticed that yeah i think i mean especially over the pandemic sad boys was the conduit for that which is kind of how sad boys started back up again yeah but that was also tough because it was like only the show and we couldn't hang out and so time difference we've been able to have outings where we can just hang out as people and one it provides like a shared experience but two it's like we get to have a friendship that exists outside of work which is necessary yes we did have a nice dinner out with all the homies oh yeah we did we had a team we had a team dinner uh while some folks were in town

and uh it was really nice it was nice to get everyone everyone together especially because it takes a lot of hands these days to put together this show um like for example jacob um on the keys jacob has so many hands um and, and Jacob has a hand per key. I'm super, I'm super grateful. Anastasia pointed out, um, that it was like our first team dinner that wasn't just me and her, uh, cause Anastasia was the first person that, um, I hired like in 2019 because I needed someone to professionally, what is it called?

The ADHD thing when you- Oh, body doubling? Body doubling. Yeah, it was like literally, it started as like, can you be my professional body double? Because I need someone else to be there while I'm working. And I'm like making enough money to where that I could afford to have someone to help me,

but my mental health was deteriorating and i was at like a very low place and the career can't get any further with that yeah i mean shadows the content creators that do continue their their grind and their grift their grift their graft their rise and their grind on just you know uh doing 10 years on youtube only editing themselves writing everything so all that. I do think that is a mindset that I would be more susceptible to had I not worked in a career with delegation and a team. Yeah.

And it's hard to communicate what you need from other people. And I understand the instincts and I want to do that. But I think Sad Boys, in its current iteration and doing well but also maybe at all would not exist if it weren't for the the team i think every time i see jacob setting up for the show i remember having to set up for the show and i'm like god i don't want to do that and then sit down and just be like it's the fucking thing right yeah and i'm like uh the amount of times that oh oh uh audition stop recording like like shit like that dude oh my god like the amount to which now i can like be a little bit more free however i do need

to pivot us off of this point because we're getting a little long on the record and we did something very special right before we started this episode uh which is those will recall we did an episode a couple weeks ago about the squid game reality show which ended by the way and i do have thoughts about the ending but i will save them for another time uh i'll watch the rest i'll at least watch the ending and we can talk about it yeah yeah you should because it's funny dude um that will be a spoiler warning but we had a we got an email after that episode from spencer number 299 from the squid game reality show who was the umbrella man who um went viral for he went viral because of his, his nervousness and his like, like,

I don't even know how to describe it. Just cause he was very emotional. It was, it was, I mean, it was framed to kind of present it as a panic attack. I don't know if it literally was, but it was,

you know, it's a high stress situation and extremely tense and it's scary and hardcore. And the shoot by all accounts was pretty intense as well. And it was a, it was a was you know it was a meme it was a viral meme of like this guy snaps the whatever and he falls over right he's stressed out yeah exactly well yeah it's it's rough yeah and so then we talked about how spencer uh didn't have his full story showed i mean you how could you because it's a 456 contestant show but they present spencer as such a coward yeah in the show and and he is far from

he is far from that and we spencer sent us an email um thanking us for our coverage on the show which is very kind of spencer you will see that spencer is a very kind person because we got to talk to spencer today criminally kind the kindest boy with with a kind huge adversity just transformed into even more kindness i mean i'd like it i mean you will just have to hear it from the spencer's mouth um we've We've got a little interview for you that just happened right before we started this episode with Spencer. Thanks so much for joining us. Of course, of course. Oh my gosh. To just get us started, could you tell us a little bit about yourself and your background and how you ended up on Squid Game, the reality competition?

The ultimate challenge yeah it's a bit of a story um i'll say like this so a few years ago i had cancer um when i recovered from that i decided the two most important things in my life were connections with people and memorable experiences and so moving forward from that um one of the things i really wanted to do was work on a feature film at one point. So the fall of my junior year of college, I had the opportunity to work as a PA on a feature film. And I was there in Atlanta and I was really exhausted. And I got back to the hotel after like a 13 hour day.

And then I opened up my phone, opened the YouTube app out of instinct. And the first ad with big banner said, like apply now squid game, the challenge. I was like, what is this? This is the beast. And I'm so used to like seeing weird things or like the Mr. Beast scam ads that are like. Right, they're fake, fake Mr. Beast, yeah.

Yeah, and so I was thinking it was something like that, but I clicked on it and it like, I saw like affiliations with Netflix and it seemed legit. And so I applied um because i thought um this seems like a memorable experience and if i win then i would be able to have the money to be able to take care of the people i care about as well as the opportunity to meet so many other people with interesting stories and so yeah capitalize on that that new goal you have congratulations on beating cancer by the way i mean i'm sure thank you you're probably sick of hearing that from before it is uh i think it's very admirable that you managed to kind of displace the trauma from that into something positive

in the long term and and makes a hell of a sense that you would you would do this thing this opportunity pops up sounds really interesting sounds extremely unique and so you you know seems pretty reasonable to me that you would say yes to something like that yeah no for sure um jumping into the show itself uh the question i had down was what are your thoughts about how the show was edited like i don't know if you got a chance to actually watch the edited version of the show versus like what your experience was your lived experience i think you missed so many stories because there's 456 people and each of them has their own reason that they're there and each of them that i just had a chance to speak with while there or since then i feel like they all have very interesting lives and um i think that like in the show that's grasped

for very few people. Like even, I feel like even Trey and Leanne, the mother and son who you see so much, I feel like you know so little about them from their time on the show. I would agree with that. I feel like I didn't know that I would be on the show at all. Because I mean, like I said, there's 456 people. Yeah, right. And I have no idea what the edit's going to be. I watched the show for the first time with everyone.

Yeah. And like Love is Blind, you know, there's like another show, a Netflix show. It's like there's tons of people that end up getting engaged that were never actually on the show because it didn't fit the narrative. So you'll read about like there are a couple of couples that like didn't make it in the show because of, you know, it just like that. That must have been quite, that's kind of a, a jump scare for you. Right. When you see how much you're suddenly like, Oh, it's Spencer. I think they, they definitely gave me a hint. I think in the week or two before it came out, they were like, they try to be mindful of like warning people of things so that they can be

prepared to see it. And so I was was that's when i found out that i'd be on it i still had no idea what would be there right it's like mind is pressed to remember what exactly happened and what i said um so that was interesting yeah i feel like i was one of the few people that you get more of a glimpse into and i feel like even then it's such a small glimpse into who i am that makes sense yeah they're you know uh it is a tough challenge to try to represent a show like the premise of the show they're already off on the wrong foot because 456 people is like an impossible number of people to grasp and so i feel like the only time you really even grasp it is that the drone aerial shots of like everyone um which makes it very hard to track along with any particular characters to to care for which just i mean i you know i know they don't want to

bias the show towards anyone people or they want it to be a surprise who lives or who dies but you know it's tv and it would be nice especially since it beyond just yours that we've heard first person i mean that there are no boring people when they're doing something strange and extraordinary right and it's yeah no the casting team had their work cut out for them that's the show it feels like it should be like i'm not just doing this challenge i'm doing it for these reasons i mean that's what squid gate the show is that's also if it was just followed all 456 characters in that show and every single one of them was like, yeah, I wanna get some money.

Did not go into why or how. When we were looking into the show and the production of the show for the episode we did a few weeks ago, there were stories about how the shooting of the red light green light thing was a disaster like what was your experience like for that it was a difficult time i bet it was a challenge i will say that that woman who was holding the squat she held a squat for longer than i think i could have

um yeah and in the show it's like it just cuts back to her immediately after going oh i landed in a squat and then she just falls over based on the edit you can be like he can hold a squat longer than that exactly um i wish i had a clock to say how long exactly it took but though i mean the one other thing it's really clear is when you like uh if you see the poses people are holding in uh you can see people standing like still or they're laying down because they're wanting to hold the pose yeah right that makes sense yeah and you can also see people um i don't know some people have their hands in their pockets right it might be a little cold right right yeah i guess we did hear some of that there are a ton of times where people dive on the ground and i was

curious about these complete like like panickedly and i i assumed it was i like some miscalculation like then i won't get shot but i'll be a smaller target but it's they forgot about the die pack but that makes way more sense if there was a game of musical chairs with 45 minute intervals between each round i'd be like i'm getting the chair i'm going to sit down on the chair. So like half the people roughly make it through red light, green light. And so then they do the big reveal of the bunks that everybody's sleeping in. That's like 200 people sleeping in the same room. Is that like how it actually went down? Yeah, no, for sure.

Is that not the most disruptive sleeping experience you could possibly imagine? Well, I mean, I'm a little chaotic and I feel like I'm able to fall asleep easily. Every class in college, if it was lecture-based, I would fall asleep during it. I fall asleep on airplanes. I fall asleep in the airport. Right. So this was easy for you. This is a cakewalk the sleeping i mean that

was cozy i felt like i had lots of people around me and so i could just like share funny stories that was worth falling asleep oh that was peaceful was that i mean any disruptive i mean god take a couple hundred people put them in a big bunking somebody's a snorer yeah somebody's a snorer people being loud snorers but the people that were upset there's also like led lights for safety and so it's definitely not pitch black oh okay oh god it's like a cia black side just like you can't sleep wait yeah so so it was it was like a dim but not completely dark when you slept yeah for safety i see that makes sense yeah so i mean it's definitely darker a lot so i mean i was able to sleep fairly well did they give you like mass sleep masks and stuff they didn't give us sleep masks all right i mean a few people like covered their

i think i might have put my shirt over my face or something yeah yeah what was the i mean the it's it's sometimes hard to separate one of the reasons i'm grateful that we can talk to you is sometimes it's hard to separate kind of the fiction of the edit which as long as it's not too manipulative is is fine we know you know nothing could be 100 authentic but the food situation that seemed so unnecessarily cruel versus like, is that complete? Is that legitimately they were just giving out? What was it? A can, a person?

I mean, we were fed three times a day. I wasn't able to count the calories exactly. It was for sure not food that I'd be eating outside the dorms. But I mean, it was a challenge. It taught me a lot that I'm addicted to sugar oh yeah i realized a lot because um i think as soon as i got out i went back to eating like a huge pack of cookies oh no i yeah i think you earned it at that point spencer you're being infectiously positive you're taking all these positive life lessons from this stop it right now i'm trying to i mean

i mean i feel like you gotta learn from life that's true yeah and i think you've done a lot for a lot of people by being an open advocate about this how is the have you felt the reaction overall to you speaking out i think i've been surprised with how much love i've received um i think at least on instagram where I spent most of my time. Right. Wise. It's been a lot of people who have taken the time to find me and follow me. It has been supportive. I haven't really gone on Twitter. And so I hear that's more of a mess.

I mean, also probably best for everyone to stay off of Twitter, just as a general. I think TikTok has also been well received.ok has been very kind as well for the moment yeah because i was going to say you've been sharing some of your stories on tiktok you know we that's how we found um that you were that you were posting about your experience on the show and reception has been has been good there yeah for sure i mean there's like a few i'd say there's a few more trolls on tiktok than there's been on Instagram overall. I think some of the funniest things is just seeing what people have DM'd me since the show, since I've never really had DMs before. Right.

So I think some of the more interesting ones is a lot of people have asked me if I'm autistic since the show has come out. Interesting. It's like, I don't think so. Maybe they're asking me, but like, I don't know, maybe I'll ask a doctor at some point. Right. And then the other one thing is just that because of, I mentioned, like, questioning some things religiously, a lot of people have sent me their own religious beliefs and insisted that's how I'd find peace. And so it's a little flattering, but also interesting. Yeah, I was hoping that it would be people who have also questioned things

and they found they could relate to your story. Have you gotten any of that? No, for sure. There's some people who are finding peace that they see someone else questioning, and then there's also people with very set beliefs, whether some sect of Christianity or Islam or Buddhism. I've gotten a lot of these. And I appreciate all the people

sharing their kindness with me. Yeah. You're being so nice, Spencer. It's not very British of you. I'm being too British. No, it's really sweet. I think it's very nice that you've taken so much out of it.

And I do think, regardless of what comments are or aren't coming in countless people will be getting something out of that especially when you talked about you know different people reacting to different circumstances in different ways i think that is like that's something that wasn't represented in the edit but also that um people probably uh don't account for when they get the the distance of of uh tv or anonymity or whatever is kind of treating it like well i guess i i understand this person i saw i saw the complete story of how this person operates as opposed to like yeah you got a quick shot of like the sleeping arrangements but most people aren't going to take into account yeah the fire exits are keeping the space not completely dim and people are tired and they're

on their feet for huge periods of time and they're overwhelmed i mean being around hundreds of people for days is itself just really tiring do you keep in touch with anyone from the show or any friends that you met on the show yes i'd say that, I mean, right when the show was finished filming, they didn't want us to be in touch with one another. And so because of confidentiality until the show comes out to find out what happens. But I'd say that like as soon as the show came out, I tried to reach out to more people.

And I was really excited by the fact that I was able to join some of Netflix's publicized events to be able to see some of the people that made it so much further in the show that I hadn't seen in so long. Right. So I'd say, I think there are some friendships that I made on the show that will last a very long time. That's awesome. That's great. The one piece of irony too, I think is that most of my best friends from the show were in that umbrella line with me. Oh, yeah. Um, so hopefully they didn't give you such a hard time yeah um i think the show

has been successful uh but there's also been like a lot of critique uh and and like bad pr for certain ways that the show handled certain things do you get the impression that like netflix is learning from some of their mistakes that they've made? Because, you know, the cynical thought is, well, the show is really successful. They just wrapped up the season. Now they're casting season two. And it seems like it's full steam ahead. But hopefully if they're going to if they are going to continue, hopefully they can like learn some lessons from this. Yeah.

I mean, I'd like to think that a big company with lots of money will learn. I mean, I don't pretend to say what I would know any of their faults are inherently like, sure. As I watch it as a viewer and of someone who went through the experience and I'm like, Oh, I wish they could have shared more people's stories. But I also like, I have no idea how sure. But that's okay. Because I think like giving that feedback, it's their, they get paid the big bucks to figure that out. Right. And I think, you know, it's like our job as consumers to have thoughts. Yeah. I'll say that, like, I think the people that I had the chance to meet who work for Netflix, I was very grateful for them and I appreciated each one of them. And so I think it's also really funny that a lot of people view Netflix as like an organization. But now I'm able and fortunate enough to have a position where I can put a face to some people. For sure. And that is a very kind face that is in my mind.

Yeah. And I think that's a good thing to call out is that for any company that's huge and has a lot lot of power and influence you can criticize the company as a as a whole but the individuals who are working there are usually well-meaning very nice people and it's important to like separate the two i'm sure nobody on that set wanted you to be shooting in the cold doing red light green light for nine hours you know it's it's it's an unfortunate circumstance but yeah it seems like it's i'm really glad that there were people who got to stay in touch with what was the how much time in between filming and the show's release oh i think we filmed back in january so i was honestly so surprised how fast they were able to edit everything yeah given like the scope of everything

i guess there is probably a lot of pressure time time crunch, because, you know, Squid Game as a IP is like, you know, it's drifting away. Like the as it drifts further away, it's like time is of the essence to try to capitalize on what's left of that moment. But before we wrap up, is there are there any stories that you want to share from your time or any like wacky things that happened that we didn't get to see? I think there was one moment in the dorms when people like made a volleyball court with like their jackets and they were playing like a little bit. Yeah. So I'll just say that like lots of silly things happen in the dorms that you don't get to see.

Because so much time is there. Yeah, for sure it's hard to tell from um from the actual editing of the show but it's edited like every single day is a challenge day and it's like a new a new day and then people are like eliminated that day is that how it actually was or were there some days that are like yeah sure it took a bit longer i mean all the time was in the dorms but i don't know exactly how long the people who were there till the end were i know that i think i my time in london was a little under a week i think that includes like the quarantine beforehand right whatnot until i flew back yeah so it was i think overall pretty fast,

but also a little bit longer than they portray it to be. Yeah. Yeah. I bet it feels like much longer though when you're in it. Like I can only imagine. Without your creature comforts and. Without cookies, you know? Yeah. Cookie free. You can say that again.

Which I also think is so ironic that I just love cookies so much and I bake them all the time. And then this was my moment on the show. That's very funny. Well, Spencer, thank you so much for joining us. If there's anything that you want to share, you know, with our audience or with like the world at large before we wrap up of any of anything, like feel free. You have the floor well i think uh first and foremost i just like to say thank you all for your kindness and being able to i don't speak with me one thing that i think i'm grateful about for this is well i while i'm a software engineer i

double majored in theater and computer science oh hell yeah i am very goal-oriented and ambitious and so one of the things that i have spent so much time doing is I wrote a play. And I found a local theater that I'm going to produce that at. And I'm so excited by it. But all my family lives completely across the country. And so something I started doing about a month and a half ago was producing it digitally. And this was before I found out I was going to be on the show. Right. So now I'm almost able to finally share that with the world and i meant to share that

with just my family but now it's something that like i guess oh other people might want to see this and so it's just funny and silly that like i made this little thing and i enjoy it and now there's other people who enjoy me and so i'm excited that they might be able to enjoy this as well. Where is the best place for people to keep an eye out for that? I will post updates on Instagram at Spencer underscore two nine nine. It will eventually be on Spotify and YouTube. There will be a I think explicit is a bit of a it's not exactly explicit, but there's a, there's a few pieces of profanity and I have nieces and nephews. And so I'm also making a clean version so that I feel

comfortable with my little five-year-old cousins. Right. Right. Makes sense. Well, awesome, Spencer. Thank you so much. It's been an absolute joy to chat. And I think the last thing I'll say is that my friends would hate me if I didn't tell you thank you on all the perhaps. Like they listened to you guys even before I did. Oh, that's so cool. They send me your videos. Oh, that's so cool. Well, thank you so much. Thanks to your friends as well.

Well, you guys have a wonderful day. You are amazing. Oh, cheers. You're amazing, Spencer. Thank you so much. Have a good one. Isn't he the nicest? Oh, he's so sweet.

I literally cannot imagine. I don't think I've ever met a sweeter person it was a really nice way to kick off the recording as we say we don't want to get here do the setup hang out for a little bit main episode patreon episode and this time we've started off with a essentially like a motivational talk yeah it was just a nice man yeah, Spencer is the sweetest. And turns out that some of Spencer's friends were fans of ours. And so shout out to them as well. But yeah, that's such a funny gig that we have where we can just like, I kind of want to do that more. Talk to people that we, you know, have some connection to.

Also, everybody should check out. I think we mentioned it in the interview i'm sure but spencer's socials he went into detail a lot of the nuances of the show his experiences and friends experiences and then check those out that's kind of the reason he's a very prominent figure related to the show now yeah i do want to talk to somebody who had a more negative experience because I love how Spencer's processed everything. But at the same time, I'm like, give it to me. Give it to me hard. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Keep that in. Jacob's telling me we can't cut it. There's something wrong with the footage. You have the delete buttons broken? The delete button is not working, it turns out. That stinks. I mean, give me the real nitty gritty. Give me the bad stuff.

Nope. Dub over what he said this time with the original audio the way he said it the first time. And it's already happened and Jacob's telling me it cannot be done. Gosh. Play it after the credits of this episode as well. Slow-mo. Oh, man. But anyway, thanks to Spencer for joining us.

And I think that's the show for today. That's enough pod. Right here. On this thing. But right after this, we're hopping over to patreon.com slash sadboys for Sad Boys Nights. It's the premium Patreon podcast hosted by... What wrong with you are you mad you're in it no he's not okay oh he's happy laughing now he i can't really read it at all oh god um it's gonna be a lot of them so i think it's that that devilish panera drink, bro. Dude, I looked over at it and I had a flashback.

Over there, we're going to be, well, one, I'm going to show Jordan the horny chef, the new horny chef that Austin and I discovered in the last episode of Sad Boys Nights. Oh. And. With no, all the content could be in there because this one's on patreon yeah we can do anything we want like what i don't like watch i don't know what stuff kind of like what we do normally but just like again just more yeah exactly the same yeah exactly the same but with more um and then maybe we'll watch the hotel chef the guy who made food in the airplane bathroom oh yeah i don't know the hell that's about me yeah that's really criminal to be like the way that makes me feel is like so it's the exact opposite of the horny

chef's right the horny chef i can't look away but it's it's fascinating and i can't quite understand it the hotel chef the cooking the bathroom is too simple it's too like just like oh it's fascinating and i can't quite understand it the hotel chef the cooking in the bathroom is too simple it's too i'm just like oh it's just a weird person i don't like that so we will be jumping into that over on sad boys nights but we end every episode of sad boys with a particular phrase we love you and we're sorry boom but actually uh we're trying a new thing now where we're going to start sad boys nights at the end of now where we're going to start Sad Boys Nights at the end of this episode. We're going to give a little teaser so people can see what it is. Oh, sick.

So, hello and welcome back to Sad Boys Nights. The premium Patreon podcast where two particularly posturous boys yeah pose predominantly politely politely posted posthumously we die we die that would be a very odd what if we recorded just such a good episode tom cruise is the guest. We have a spectacular 10 hour long podcast. Yeah. And then we both die on Thursday.

I mean, hey. We gotta put the episode out on Friday. Do we get buried together? What? Same coffin? Not the same coffin, but like side by side, like a married couple or something. Yeah. What about like a married couple or something yeah what about like a wide transparent one that is the couch or a stone etching of the couch with

the noodle blanket yeah they we get like uh some sort of sculpture of the noodle blanket it's a that shot from the live show where it says love acquired yeah fist bumping the air um well so so if these like little freaks that are getting a little bonus getting a little free bonus uh can see let's let's jump into the the sexy chef oh no raw chicken Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, Gucci girl, Gucci girl, how you doing, how you moving girl, moving girl, how she delicate, that future girl, future girl, yeah we on now, take my money, go away, all you wanted, go to rich for me.