Sad Boyz - Meta Glasses Pickup Artist Epedemic

Episode Date: June 12, 2026

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Welcome to Sadboys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jervis. I'm Jordan. Welcome. We were just talking lips. We were just talking lips because we all have them. I truly, we had a little chat about lips. We were just talking about, you know, like, what kind of lips you got, what kind of lip builds are there?

What's out there? I went to the bathroom. I saw my face and I went, what is that? Like, what is this? because it ain't this and it ain't this Oh the type of skin Yeah it's a different type of dermis

I don't know if it's a type of dermis Is it muscle? Because you can move them There is Well there's muscle Definitely muscle In the Look

I can see But I feel like I can make my lip tense You know I can make up my mouth Really tiny Yeah You can't do that with your cheek My I'm

This came up because my lips are a little swollen So I don't have as much control of them As I normally do How big we do? How big we talk in the same? From kissing. Not that much now because it's like gone down because I took my allergy meds. But it's just I randomly get hives.

And sometimes my other parts of my body will swell. So like my hands were swelling yesterday. Your genetic DSLs. You could have told the people it's from kissing. It's from kissing. It's from kissing. Okay. It's from kissing.

What happened? You tell the story about kissing. Hey, everybody. It's from kissing. That was close. Yeah. You've just been kissing too much. Your lips are small.

I've been kissing too much and I know exactly what that's like. Isn't it weird that we just have like so little, like the, we have all of the information available to us via wonderful tools like rock. And we don't, I don't want us to look up what lips are made of because I think I'm just going to tank that. Oh, well. Have you ever? They, why do they include that?

Just so you know where they are. That's some, wait. But have you ever seen. Some of the teeth are missing. A drawing of the muscular structure under a face? Yes. No, but I mean like the front view? Because there is like very different.

Yeah, there's different stuff. There's different stuff. It just seems so crazy. It's always funny, by the way, like when you go to the doctor and obviously they have like an absurd level of information and like nuances you can never know, big thick books and stuff. And then you ask them one particular question. We haven't cried that yet.

We actually don't know how. Like, why does this medication work this way? I'm like, we're still working on that, not quite sure yet. Yeah. You're kind of the guinea pig on that stuff. Yeah. And you're like, how does the brain work? Like, you tell me about it.

Still learning. It's like asking me like what a computer is. I'm like, it's like the box at home. It is funny that now that we have a number of AI agents competing against each other, Grock does sound like the dumb one. Yes. It's like Claude is very refined. And then there's GROC who's over there like, bleh.

Because GROC is. Oh, GROC. Grog. They gave it a caveman name. They gave it a caveman name. It's almost gronk. Yes. Baby Grog.

I mean, it's the, uh, if you take all of those names and you do kind of boil them down into frat guys, like, Claude is the kind of refined guy who's still a piece of shit. And he's like part of the frat. But he's tactful and actually does his homework. No, yeah. Groc is currently drinking. Claude is like, um, my sincerest apologies. He's the transfers. I.

you should not drink anti-freeze, and I apologize for telling you to do so. Chat GPT, the high-strung homework addict. Yeah, chat GPT is like the nerd of the group. Actually, when I told you to drink anti-freeze, I wasn't lying. It's a Ben Shapiro type. You'd be surprised to find that when I mentioned anti-freeze,

that is what is commonly known as a contextual statement. Emoji heading. Emoji heading. I was mostly considering the water content antifreeze and not the other anti-freeze parts that are toxic to humans. Like, have you- Kill yourself. Drink it, brother. Have you ever met a nerd? You know those nerds who are...

Careful. No, no, no. You're going to know this type. This is a type I've encountered in my own nerddom. I see. You know, where they think they know everything and they're constantly explaining things to you, but they're wrong. about so much. A confidently wrong person.

The confident worth. Because I'm not confident about things I'm right about. I know. Same. At the best case scenario, I'm sheepish in my confident. Yeah. Because I know how obnoxious, it could be. And then it is, then as a result, I'm like vague and actually not that informative.

I mean, I told you. I have a friend who made the confident claim that because of the quality of the speakers that they have in their house, like the fidelity, the realism that comes out of them, that no matter the volume or how close you are to them, it cannot damage your hearing. I've heard other people say that too, which is crazy. Is this like, I'm sure there's going to be some pedantic comment. I thought you were saying the speakers as in like, let me be clear. Oh, the confidence of those people. The orators in my room.

What of history's most famously confidently wrong? But it is, I'm sure, maybe. it's that like this is a unclear point that's been the language is too broad like it just it can't damage it can't do one specifically nuanced thing that had a particular way that damages you i don't know but you know what's really realistic is a gunshot if i do that next to your ear it's not the lack of realism that makes it damage you it is like well real sounds it's all the synthetic sounds real sounds can't hurt it's magic that it is indistinguishable from a miracle the way that they talk about And saying that with like kind of a smug, it's like a smug priest.

Like, um, yeah, Noah's Ark did literally. Audio files, the people who identify as audio files choose a new word. But the- To the files. They are usually, I mean, going back a long time, like, the internet has been making fun of confident audio file. They're like, I have this gold-plated cable and it actually makes the audio sound different. and I can tell.

But it feels very much like wine tasting or something where when you like actually, like I'm sure there are people who are really good at identifying stuff, but there's also people who've made millions of dollars fraudulately by like mixing really cheap wines together and selling them as if they were expensive wines. Or claiming that like, yeah, a particular headphone cable is going to get you lossless audio while the file is not lost.

Yeah, it doesn't create. Yeah, this 128 KBPS like MP3 is not going to become a flack. It can damage your ears. It's not to become a wave. Be careful. I remember one time I was with my mom shopping for a new washer and dryer. Shopping. Big surprise.

And I was a little kid. Washer and dryer. I hardly know her. Go on. And we were at like a big box store, like circuit city kind of type place. They have huge boxes there. And we're on the sales floor looking at all the washers and dryers. And this young salesman comes up to us and he's like, you should check out this new model, blah, blah, blah.

And he's like showing us this new dryer that doesn't tumble dry. You can just hang stuff in there and it like heats it up. And he goes, you know, it's actually the tumbling that makes stuff shrink. And then, okay, cut two later. Cut two later, we're walking away. I'm like, mom, is that right? And she goes, no, that guy's an idiot. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

He just is trying to solve me something. Yeah, that's the commission-based. I don't even want to call it a lie because I do think there's almost a Stanford prison experiment impact that happens when you're given the default authority. It's like you're wearing the suit so you can say the wild shit. Me going on a roller coaster and an Excel shirt to come out in a crop top.

It's the tumbling that makes it smaller. It's winter. How did this happen? It's always fun when you get to have one of those moments. It's the, actually, I think I know more about American girl dolls than you do genius. Oh, dude, somebody accidentally steps into it. Because I do not consider myself to be a font of knowledge on like really, like, really anything, but a very slim set of like hyperfocuses from when I had more energy.

And if you step into the dojo by accident, if you accidentally trip and stumble, into nuances about PS3 launch titles. And you start doing it with confidence? I'm like, hold on. Wait a minute. Accessing only part of Mind Palace that's furnished. Yeah. Rest of Mind Palace is empty and covered in cobwebs.

It's empty, echoey, cobwebbed. And somebody's just like, you know, well, that's actually not technically the canon of the TV show heroes. Yeah. Wait. Yeah. Pushes up glasses. I definitely have some of those.

But it happens to me more when people tell me about what AI. told them. This weekend, a guy randomly said to me, like I was leaving a hotel. I was like traveling this weekend. And the guy was like, don't cut your hair. And I was like, what? Like I took out an AirPods, you know? Like I was like, huh? It was like, wait, the guy, what? He's a time traveler. He said, like, there's no time you explain. This is the butterfly. Why do you sound like me, but old? He said, don't cut your hair. And then I was like, what? And then he was like, yeah, like, I, you have good curls and I was like oh thank you he's like I and I have good curls and I was like of course absolutely pitching for a compliment I was like wow the finest curls in the land

there's a hey you look really nice yeah I'm always trying to be polite in in public and I also have the like southern hospitality programming where I'm like overly nice well thanks partner I'd let's listen to this here a computer absolutely and so then then he was like you know I was asking AI what to get for my barber and they said two on the sides and tell them not to like a comb, use a dry comb to comb it out because of my curls. And I'm like, oh, for sure, absolutely. And then they were like, AI's taught me a lot of stuff. And then they like walked away. It had like a little. Was he sponsored? Yeah, it was very interesting. Turned around a grog logo on the bag of his t-shirt.

Was he real? Yeah, I looked at someone near next to me and I was like, what was that about? And they were like, What are you talking about? There's a, I had a, it's a Barbara I usually go to, but new guy. I am terrible at articulating what kind of heck I want, despite the fact that it's generally very simple. And I think that's partly where the nuance gets tricky, where it's like the exact point of the grade, the height, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, yeah.

And I, there is only one answer and all of them independently come to it, no matter which barber I go to. But seeing them like navigate my struggle articulating it, because I'll say what I thought the grade was last time and on the side. And I wrote it down, but apparently that actually doesn't apply this time for whatever reason. And it was honestly very sweet, but it kind of felt like the same way you have to coach a kid to read, where you can't tell them what the phonemes are, but you go like, and so what did you want on the sides? And I was thinking like a one and he went, a one on the side?

I went, you know, five on the sides, one on the top. I want the Rick Sanchez Yeah, he's going to say I want the George Cassanza I'm trying to look like a monk From 1500s Catholicism He's like, mm-hmm, yes

You give me the friar cut Let me tell you by the way I don't know if this is going to resonate with anyone That feeling when you're You can't quite hear anything Over the music at the Baba And you think he's about to say something to you And what comes out is Armenian

and he's talking to a friend. Oh, the rush. I'm like, oh, he's in a conversation. I have nothing to. I don't have to explain what YouTube is. I wish. Yeah, I wish there was like, so you know how severance is like a dystopian tale about capitalism and, you know, detaching the self and all that jazz?

I kind of wish I had severance for the barber. I wish there was a different guy that could do the talking. You're out of a autopilot. Look, the guy can't be that. interesting, right? Like, it's like, he doesn't have like a lot of engagement with the world, but God does he know how to do small talk? Oh, my God.

I also have, like, I think my version of southern hospitality, aside from, like, kind of a fat background British, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, oh, pardon me, is West Country, blah, I don't know what to say, mumbling, where if somebody's asking me a active question where I'm supposed to reply with something, I'm. I'm overly aware of the fact that really what I'm supposed to do is just sort of like get through the moment and then they can get back to whatever the thing they were saying was. Yeah. So they're just like, so what are you up to this week? And by default, if I let the autopilot run, I will just say something like, oh, yeah, you know, I'm too much too much.

And I realized after it happens, oh, they were, that was their improv prompt. There was, I was supposed to like knock it back to them, not like catch the tennis pole and put it down. you have to channel your inner AI chatbot and ask, ask a follow-up question. That's a great question. To keep the conversation going. This weekend, probably just having a little fun, getting a little crazy. What do you like to get up to? I was in Chicago this weekend for Pokemon Go, long story.

But while I was there, I was thinking about how geographically Chicago, like, my family's from around Chicago or outside of Chicago, but I've never actually been there because they all moved to Florida before I was born. Is your first time go? Yeah. Oh, cool. And I didn't spend too much time there, but it was just like cool to go and see. There was a experience I had where I was thinking about the gradient in hospitality

or forced hospitality, if you want to call like southern hospitality more forced versus like the New York like kind of, I'm walking here type of aesthetic. And like thinking about as a gradient, thinking of that is a gradient and like where Chicago. like exists, like where Illinois exists on that gradient, I found a lot of people who I was interacting with were kind of like frowning. Like I kind of had a like a good obsession. Oh my God. But in New York, if I do Southern hospitality, it doesn't like work.

It like the perfect period. It like it bounces off of them unaffected. But then in Chicago, if I like was just like generally upbeat and nice in my interactions, people would like kind of go. And I was like, whoa, we could turn a front upside down. This is kind of nice. That's what it felt like as soon as I go back to the, when I went back for the extended trip to the UK last year,

I got off the plane to American, like too much. I go off the plane. First place I go, go to Gregg's. Like, hi, how's it going? I noticed the projectile shatter against the shield. Just like explode on it. Because it's like a hollow critical failure. and like hurts you.

It's like a used fire attack on a fire enemy. Absorbed. Yeah, absorbed. What the hell? And then I, over the course of like the first week at the couple different hotels I was hopping around, I noticed that like, okay, the hospitality friendliness buff is matching where I'm at right now because they're used to dealing with like different sentiments from different

countries visiting. Barista welcomes a good amount of friendliness, but I still need to tone it down. then once I adjusted, like after maybe three or four days, I got to the frown upside down. You can, you can once you, as long as you start within their like frame range. You have to hit the pocket. Yeah, yeah, you have to find the pocket. Then you can smell upside down. The problem is, is that I think it does cost a little bit of HP.

Oh, for sure. Doing that, lifting it up. It's a berserker build. Yeah. I'm a glass cannon. I need to be careful. My friend from New Jersey, she moved to Los Angeles when she was like 30 or in her 30s and had never been to California before. She was moving here for her husband's job.

And she was like so taken aback by how chatty cashier people are. They'd be like, how's your day going? and she'd be like, what's it to you? Yeah. Like, why are you? Hey, back off. I think she's like... Somebody asking you where you're from.

What? What the fuck? Hey, you try to... You try to... It's like a gang check-in. Yeah. Yo, what? Where are you from?

What are your color? What's your favorite color? What do you love? I love green. I do think it's like a very L.A. thing to have like your barista or whatever. It be like, oh my God, I love your necklace. How's your day going? what's new or whatever?

It's like, we don't know each other, but it's a very L.A. thing to pretend like your besties right off the bat. There's a coffee shop super near Katie's place, so look for those if you want to find where she lives. And there is the coffee shop. And so I'll go there. Is that where I ran into you? With your car?

Yes, it is. When you hit Jordan like a bowling thing? Craziest thing happened. Yeah, there's a coffee shop and a broken British man on the road in case you order. Crazyest thing. happened, met up with a friend to work at a coffee shop. Holy shit.

And then I leave. What? And I see a man. That can't be right. Staring me a tall. Not a boy. A tall bespectacled chat. Fucking loser.

Sun glasses. Sun bespectacle. I was like, what the fuck are you doing here? I was like, hey, I understood. I was like, what is this crazy energy? Too much coffee? I was. Shocked.

Was that very place? And I don't know if you had this barista, which not consume them. But this place in particular is overstaffed with incredibly charismatic and hot baristas. Yes. And I, there's one in particular who I think it is a little overstated by people that like don't live here or haven't been here. Was this the place where the person said sad boys drink free or something like that? No, that obviously a better coffee show. by virtue.

Shout out to them. Thank you so much to Eastside coffee shops in L.A. Higher hit rate of sad boys consumers, and I don't know what that says. That actually, for whatever reason, I think that checks out. Makes all sense. I think if you are within five,

if you're within like a block and a half of an independent tattoo shop and you work as ever recently, you do listen to the podcast I have in the past, at the very least saw the black white videos, there is a type of like L.A. critique that I think is based a little too much on like media consumption and like interpretations based on like

highly weird which is that people are like fake social are like farming for that kind of attention I think overwhelmingly people in general are well intentioned I think so I think most of the time if it's like a genuine attempt to open a conversation just just globally I think it is with the intent of actually having one now you're at work it is you also want to engage with people and you do want to be polite. But this person in particular, it's so achingly sincere and it seems like so genuinely genuine when they are asking you how you are doing, when they are like excited to hear that, or even if you're just saying, you know, not much, kind of a day, just a quiet day. And it, the way you say it to them, it sounds like, yeah, I just have my first son.

Cool. I am not much, I'm just about to head home. We went to trivia last night. She was like... Congrats. Yeah, no, thanks. Oh my God, that's amazing. We didn't wait. You know, it was just like a nice trivia. No, but I mean, this is incredible news.

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Sad boys. Code. Sad boys. Your data deserves to say yours. Thanks to delete me for sponsoring this episode. I don't think I'm overly sheepish, but I think maybe in the morning especially, I think maybe I've not warmed up my hardware to the extent where I can interface quite that level.

Do you know what I mean? You know in like a golf game or something when you're like the meter is going like this and you're like trying to figure out the power of your swing? And there's like one like critical area that like it's perfect. Yes. It's like red, red, red, red, green. If I hit one of those, I'm like, wow, let me tell you everything about anything you want to talk about. Wow, the weather today.

You know, I was looking up something about the weather and then I've got something to say about the weather all of a sudden. And somehow I was saying a weather that is genuinely interesting and is connecting. But then if I am just outside of that narrow band, every word I utter is physical pain. It's like, I just learned the language. And I don't want to be there. I don't want to be in that space. I want to always be hitting the critical, you know, success. But unfortunately.

But there was this huge yellow range beneath and you're like, I should have just gone for not a hole in one. I should have just got on the green. I should have been more conservative. Instead, I went, I like shot into a different nation. Oh my God. But the times, I am so genuinely happy the times that I am able to engage. And aspirationally, I'm thinking every time I'm in the yellow or the red, I'm thinking about that one time that I was in the And I was like, man, how great would that be if I was in the green right now?

Or I'm I'm cosplaying being in the green, but that depletes my energy like extra. Yes, that's, uh, uh, that's bending like magic points. That's like burning. And I, and I don't have like an ether or like any sort of like way of MP up. I have no way of getting my magic points up. And I'm like, wow, it's going to be a long time. I guess until tomorrow I won't have any. this energy.

It is a really, it's such a, I'm sure it like such a hack bit, but truly it is actually not until I've had my coffee. This is the like, it's like if you had to be healthy to get surgery. Yeah. I'm like, I can't, I don't. Yeah. It's like if I, I had to like one out of 10 days and I call it the surgeon and I'm like, today's the day.

I feel great. Come on out. I'm not doing anything. You know, these social interactions might be a little worse. if you're wearing meta glasses. I mean, people knew, I guess, maybe. So there's this. No, no, no, no.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Come on, that was a good transition. It was a transition. It was so obscure that I didn't know what you would do. Okay, so I, we're going to talk about meta glasses, but before we do that, because I do want to get to this. Okay, before the show, we looked up a list of affiliated Wutang Clan members. that are in the outside of the main group

and the names will surprise you. Jordan started laughing, reading them. Moniically. You know, the regular members of Wu Tang, I'm just going to list those so that people know what we're working with. Because Wu Tang is doing the... This started because today is game four

of the NBA finals as we're recording this, and Wu Tang is performing at the halftime show. And I said, who does that entail? Exactly. Because Wu-Tang could be one of 1,200 people.

Yeah. But here's the, like, OG kind of main members. The foundational members. Riza, Method Man, old dirty bastardard, may he rest. Jaze, Gron, Ghost Face Killa, Inspect the deck. You know, like, the OGs. But there's also... No.

I guess Old Dirty Baster is a past member. He is dead. Because he's passed. He has passed. I didn't meet me I wasn't trying to make that a pun. I just went to the Wikipedia and I'm like why I they should have just listed it under members and put deceased. Yeah. Instead of doing past members.

They really? They just that's like insane move. I think that's an insane move. Okay. So, but there's a lot of like Wu Tang affiliates. And so the first couple that you're at, can you read? Can you read the ones that we already talked about? And as a group, I believe was a good starting point.

And if you've never. Then it are also different groups that are affiliated. So in the Wikipedia, don't show the Wikipedia yet, Jacob. I mean, you could go to it, but just like, because in the Wikipedia for this, there's two sections, groups and rappers. So groups and then individual rappers, there is a group called American Cream Team. And we were having a good chuckle about that. I'm reading some of the members of it. Also, almost all of the members of this sadly have passed.

So I want to... But now they are remembered. But now they are remembered. But this is a celebration of life for the affiliated names. Chip Banks, polite, Lord superb. trifling but spelt different. Lord Superb is so cool. 12 o'clock, I just like that.

12 o'clock is fun. 12 o'clock. Because it implies the existence of 23 other members. Yeah. Like, and God forbid any sort of half hour markers or smaller. That's like they're kids. Yeah. 12 o'clock, I just enjoy.

Yeah, his kids named 1201. He's got a lot. Buddha monk, which is fun. implies the kind of a background. Yeah, sure. This is awesome. Dungeon Master. Yeah, I mean, that's pretty straightforward.

The guy loves to game. Yeah. The guy loves fun. You have to read it. So, so it's more the spelling than... Um... Born Anthony Creston Brown, War Cloud was a West Coast

Wu-Tang affiliate member and former member of the group, the Black Knights. when he was known as Holocaust. No. He was also known by the alias Alcatraz and Robot Tank. I know my favorite. Robot Tank is fun as hell.

There's young dirty bastard. That's just a different period of time. Is that his son? It's his son. It's his eldest son. That's actually cool. That's cute. Dude. Does he have a youngest? I just tapped into the producers

and you've got producers like Fourth Disciple, Arabian Knight, bronze Nazareth, silver rings, John the Baptist, aka Bapgod. Crum snatcher. Cool.

That's like a little mouse? Silkski. Scheheim, Shabaz, the disciple. A lot of religious elements at play, I suppose. Representative of the whole world. L.A. the Darkman. Elway the Darkman.

Crum snatches. So good. Crum snatcher. It's one word, by the way. Crum snatcher. Oh, it's Swedish. Krums snatches. Hands on or the German pronunciation, Hans.

That's not the same. Hellraza. Cool. Sometimes you really got to sound it out. I might take that one, though. Hell raisa. What was it? Tank robot?

I think it's robot tank. Robot tank is really good. That's like how Evangelium would be translated. Yeah. Robot tank. Yeah. robot tank. That is such a good name.

Tag yourself, I'm robot tank. Okay. Well, I'm... I'm this one. Shorty shit thing. Okay, I think Brooklyn Zoo clearly has, I think, some of the strongest. It's closely affiliated with ODB and includes King Murdy, Zookeeper. So he's, you know, keeping them in place.

Res on Zookeeper. 12 o'clock, my guy. But among my guy, Shorty Schittstein is... Shorty Shitsane is crazy. Um, tragedy, Gaddafi. Sorry? Tragedy is a cool name. It's in Black Market Militia.

Tragedy Gaddafi. Gaddafi, but I think. Cool. I think I would love to be 12 o'clock or some variation. Yeah, I would love. You know what? 12 o'clock. Actually, a lot of these names are especially 12 o'clock.

That's like the name of a fake rapper in like SVU. Yeah, I'll say it. It gets like murdered by a tiger. I'm dungeon master. Yeah, you might be the dungeon master. You know, it's so funny. because some of them, I'm like, how do you fucking say this? And then you sounded out, silver rings.

That was a true test of my reading comprehension when I said that. It starts with a C. Lord, I might have to take Lord Superb. Lord Superb. Lord Superb. Actually, that's like so perfect for you. Brooklyn Zoo is so fun. I think, I think, Lord Superb.

I think you have to bow down. Superbly. To your king and Lord, Lord liquor is superb. The Beggas clan. Washington, D.C. natives, Father Lord, was featured on kill-a-price Tai Chi, along with Hellraza and 60 Second Assassins off the album Heavy Mental on Sons of Man's Sign of the Time, along with Timbo King of Royal Fans. That definitely is like a baby groncarus.

Like a reading. But this is my favorite. Jock King, Long Fist. Work for Rades of Sharp Records. And then such as the DMV street team. And that's that's the,

well that there's the D.C. area. So it's like the DMV as in is it D.C. Maryland, Virginia. Is that what D.M.B. Maybe. Maybe. I thought they were actually a part of the government that issues. I think it's because they're in the DMV area.

But some of the artists include Long Act. Black Lotus. Oh, the members of Black Lotus. Long Axe, Dragonfly, Megasol, Scorpion, Samoong, Begaoo, Longfist, Bolo Gah, Buddha Love, Jim Kelly. Wait, you know, Jim Kelly was a martial artist who studied under Bruce Lee. Well, Samo Hong also. Samo Hong's like a famous actor martial artist.

So were these- And this makes sense for Wu-Tang because they're really into- I know, but it makes sense to, like, have something alluding to it, but just the real name. Yeah. Just take the real name of Jim Kelly. It's like Bruce Lee, but it's spelled like real weird. Bruzzly. Bruzzly. Bruzzly.

That's actually really fun. Yo, that should be in the Wu-Tang generator. Cool. Every time I hear the name Bruce Lee, I always think of it as a verb, like doing something brusely in a Bruce regard. Can I be long axe? I change mine. Okay, well, if you're long axe, can I be short axe,

slash dragons pitchfork slash Yukon Black. We're a duo. Can you, so Charles Gambino is famously named by a Wu-Tang clan name generator. Can we go to a Wu-Tang clan name generator? I just want to see, maybe we all get our names. Imagine if Donald Glover's rap alias was Samo Hong. Let's all, let's all get a name. Oh, now that is a 2000s website.

There we go. There we go. That's wide text. Let's start with Jacob. What? The assassin. That's so cool. What?

That's awesome. All right, Anastasia next. We're gonna get like butt stained toilet or something. You could put vegan. You could put vegan. Vulgar mercenary.

Why are you guys murder? You guys are killers for hire. Yeah. Come on. It's appropriate. All right, Jordan next. This is better be, I better at least work for the mall.

It's like little shit stain or whatever. Fuck off. Lazy ass. Langer. Lazy-ass lover. Micro hog shit steak. Poop pants, McGee. What?

An annoying mastermind? I'll take it. An annoying mastermind. The assassin? The mercenary. The mastermind. The mastermind. The fart master.

Hey, I am annoying. This is, does anybody want to smoke? Can I white elephant? Can I take somebody? Nope. That's it. That's our name's forever. vulgar mercenary.

Vulgar mercenary. And Jason's Jason. Yeah, that's Jason. He got Jason. I put Jacob and the assassin together in my head. And I just said, that's Jason. Like, can we throw in peeps? Just peeps.

That's already a Wu-Tang name. Mighty Knight. What the hell? That, like, weirdly feels like it's breaking away from Wu-Tang and it's just giving them a name. But they know. I believe that there's something magical happening where this name generator can sense our souls. I don't think I doubt you so.

No, no, I think there's like an error. In speaking of sensing our souls, there's something soulless about Facebook's meta glasses. Okay. Yeah, yeah, that's better for sure. We can vote in the comments below who did it better. It seems like you've misread this podcast as a democracy. I'm just saying give a vote to your boy, annoying mastermind.

And to Jordan. Lazy-ass loser. Yeah, at least you're a lover. I think there's like a bug in the game. Being a lazy lover is kind of sad, though. Oh, no, it's very sad. They didn't even say lazy lover. They said lazy-ass lover.

Like, not only is it sad. Like a Trump nickname. It really. We're calling him lazy-ass lover. It makes you sound not generous as well. Right. Why are we talking about my name? We didn't talk about yours, which would, well, yours is,

actually allowed, I guess, because the Blackwater. But you, Jacobs an assassin, which is also allowed could of Blackwater. Oh, fuck. Mastermind, you probably run Blackwater. Okay, I, well, I am bad at sex. Okay, well, you know how to get good at sex is by watching a Riz influencer?

If it was opposite day. Yeah. So I guess there's a new Riz influencer on the streets. The Rizzer. I wouldn't even say he's new. I think he's been around for a little while, but. Ew, hilarious photo. As we all know,

that photo is really funny. What the fuck? Jarvis has, you know, we've made videos about this on Jarvis Johnson Gold before, but it is pretty ubiquitous now for these like influencers who are like, what do you call them? Like cat calling or pickup artist kind of stuff. I mean, that goes if I always say a lazy-ass lover. This profile photo looks like someone took an investment banker and then selected all the outside of his face and said, make him a sexy Tarzan.

You know what I mean? Because if you just only look at the face and neck, that guy works at Goldman Sachs. Yeah. And it kept, it like took the business suit he was wearing and thought it was a chain. There's even a hard line around the body here. Yes.

Well, he definitely shaves his neck. There's no way it just stops there. Yeah. Whoa, that's kind of a cool look though. Permanent wetsuit. Beard to chest. That is a lot of, I mean, I just have to say, I suppose I'm a, you know, I put all my hair points into my upper lip, I guess. But I'm not generating anything close to that. And it is a, I feel like if that's the hardware you're working with, there is no maintaining it. That you are the bear man. That's fine. It's tough. You just choose that look. Someone's crossed a bear. No point. intended, I guess. It's a lot of people's preference. I think it's totally fine. I think I would

say there is a huge bear. There are a lot of people who are attracted to men who want a hairy man. Yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure. Oh my goodness. Through the roof. Going back to the idea of these like pickup artists like influencer guys,

they often wear meta glasses. Like it's often not disclosed that they are filming the people that they are filming. And I believe that there's a light on the metaglasses when you're filming that they either cover with electrical tape or like get a disabled jail break to just just poke the light out. Yeah.

I think it's actually been shown as being pretty easy to stop that light from working. It's interesting to think that none of these guys can. I think like, you know, he's a scientist. He's doing this experimentation, obviously. I think there's a fundamental flaw in the study because he's always going to be a guy wearing glasses. We can never know what a non-glasses wearer, what their experience would be.

The floor-rise dude couldn't be me. I'm lazy-ass lover. I don't wear glasses. So this account, Rizcam, has 1.7 million followers on Instagram. I think they're on TikTok as well, but I'm not sure how much they have on there. Always a good sign. Oh, is this a different guy doing the same? It's the same guy. It's just a different photo of him.

That's the investment banker. What? Oh, that's an artist's rendition. Also, that's before he went. I don't know if there was an artist. Yeah, that's a good point. Sort. His name is Claude, I believe. Yeah.

Oh, I see. This Rismaxed score thing is an app. Yeah. They've always got a fucking app. I know. They're vibe coding. Oh, my Lord. This is like, I mean, why is it, why is the visual design giving Magnum condoms?

Yeah, this is very Trump. brand it actually. Or Maxim magazine. Or Maxim magazine. Anything with an M, really. Hundreds of realistic practice scenarios. That's cruel. Oh my God. That's what you call a woman a scenario. Wait, so this is like doing reps

of hitting on a like accosting a woman on the street. Harass virtually until you've mastered the craft. Forbes 16 and above by the way. This is like a VR engagement where you're like on a beach and there's women walking and you've got to like cat call them. It's one of those like

fake Instagram game ads where you have to like cut a rope so like you perfectly land somewhere except it's a lasso to catch women I've never used metaglasses but I know that they're equipped with AI AR and a guy a scary guy

okay Alan Iverson Austin Reeves what other basketball player are they equipped with VR who would be VR uh Valentin Rufios Oh, yeah.

No, but they, so, and then they can film, they can stream. There's like a bunch of stuff that you can do with these little. Sorry, I have the critique that is completely unfair, because it doesn't relate to his actions at all. But brother, you got to invert first name, last name. You cannot be Cameron John. You need to be John Cameron. That's a wild mix-up.

Unless it's like Like Unless it's like The Japanese structure Let's watch one of these dang Videos Johnson Jarvis I mean what are we talking about

Look that's not my name What was my Wutei name? It was like Lazy ass strong Lazy ass It was like jacked lover Good at Sex Or some stupid thing

Wait look at that Thumbail for two weeks Of semen retention You Yeah experiencing elevated emotion of joy. Should we watch that? Should we watch one of the other?

Is that even a video? It's just a photo. Okay, never mind. Yeah, they. Oh, hold on. So on kick, he reacts to his video. He's in the top corner. That's actually crazy.

Imagine this is what you see in meta glasses. This is a little floating creep. This is reminding me of the fucking Bo Burnham bit. I walked up and said exactly what I was thinking, nothing more, nothing less. That's a problem. Most guys complicate the approach. Well, yeah, because you should think about things before you say that. Yes, it's weird. Beautiful today. Yeah, where are you guys from? Oh, yeah, we're from Carlsbad. Oh, nice. Yeah, how do you guys know each other?

Coming in with a confident direct opener such as, hey, you're so beautiful, is a perfect way to start a conversation. Right then and there, she knows, hey, this guy's interested in me romantically. From there, once you establish that core, you just start asking questions and get- Hello. How do you know her? A friend. Did I do enough yet? I feel like this is like, look here in the body language where he like gives a compliment.

Everything's fine. And then he continues the conversation and she immediately like tenses up. Oh, dude. She goes into a block. Yeah. It's really funny hearing his summary of the interaction. Yeah. So here I just wanted to say whatever I wanted to set up my mind.

So you could tell when I talked to her and I said what, and I included her friend. And so now I'm talking to two ladies. Like the way he describes it, that's not what happened at all. Look at this. She's clearly uncomfortable. I essentially look beautiful. Zero apology for thinking it. And she laughed.

Not the nervous laugh of someone caught off God by something uncomfortable. That is absolutely the nervous laugh. No, no, no, no. It's the genuine laugh of someone who appreciated being seen by a man confident enough to say exactly what was on his mind. This is how chat GPT responds. If you say, do you like the shirt I'm wearing? Yes. This isn't just a regular shirt that you've changed fashion.

I imagine this is what would happen if you went to chat GPT and said, I told someone they were beautiful and they laughed. I genuinely think that's what it is. They were like, I feel self-conscious. Were they nervous? And he goes, I can't imagine they were. With a charming guy like you? This isn't just the nervous laugh of someone uncomfortable.

Yeah, you're right. It's terrifying. This is the inviting laugh of someone who loves you and wants to marry it. Find out where they live. Maybe stream it. Wait, the genuine laugh of someone who appreciated being seen. by a man confident enough to say exactly what was on his mind without needing anything back? I don't know, man.

How did you distinguish between those laughs? It disarms her completely. I feel the opposite. She feels tense and armed. She's wielding a weapon. That is not, oh, come on. Okay. Also, I would say that she's giving nothing back to you.

She's not saying, oh, that's my bestie from high school. She said high school. Also, dude, if you're going up floating someone, the sentence, high school, nice, cannot come out at any point. Because also, like, there is an implied, a lot of times you want to let a guy down easy because you don't want his feelings to get involved because the situation can become dangerous. Right. So I feel like there's- Especially a guy volatile to do this in the first place. So you're like, hey, I just want this to end as quickly as possible and I don't want to ruffle any feathers.

And now I'm in an uncomfortable situation, but I don't feel like I can be direct with my emotions. Especially with a friend here and I'm trying to, you would have the same reaction if someone, if a guy just comes up and is just like to us hanging out and just went like, hey, what's up? You guys, do you guys like sneakers? And he starts talking to you about his sneakers. He was just like, uh, yeah, man, okay.

I do have to say like, I don't know what the right thing to do in this situation. There is kind of no right thing to do for as a woman. You have to go force field. And then you have to create like a, uh, uh, A dome around you where you can't enter. What you're supposed to do is laugh nervously, which of course she was not doing. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, my God. But this is exactly, again, maybe I'm mansplaining and maybe I'm saying the obvious. But when a woman says, like, I have a boyfriend. If they don't have a boyfriend, they're not lying because they are evil. Yes. It's the quickest way to disarm the situation. And they're scared of you and guys like this respect another man that is like doesn't. actually exist or isn't even in the space, then they do respect your personal space.

Because you, because the guy is essentially what that's doing for a lot of dudes is instead of saying, I'm not really interested in being acquired and placed in your inventory, to be honest. They're saying, oh, well, maybe I could use a master ball. Maybe that will work. And they're going through strategies as opposed to like, nope, someone already owns me. I was already acquired and put in a poker ball. They're like, okay. Well, you can't take that.

I can't. Yeah. you're not allowed to throw a polka ball at another trainer's Pokemon. I get it. It's like in their mind they're going to like CarMax right now and negotiating the price on a car

as opposed to being like, oh, I can't buy someone else's car, of course. This guy is delusional. A man who walks up and leads with genuine bold honesty is so rare it creates instant attraction before the conversation even starts. So delusional.

I was thinking while watching this when he said, how do you know each other? She should have said, that's my wife. Oh, like Borat. Like I, and I don't know if that's what she should have done because to be honest, I don't think this guy would have, he would have been like, ooh, hot or whatever. She would have been like that sexy.

But get this guy out of here as quickly as possible to stop ruining my fun time with my friend. It's hard to, I think, redirect someone when their base premise is so off. Yeah, exactly. like trying because it's a little like when when people are online are just like um well why you're clearly virtue signaling because why would you be compassionate or something and you're like okay so hmm i need to access the kind of mind that just doesn't value human beings in order to interface with you i have to like go into characters this different kind of it's like i don't know how to tell you that what i'm looking at right now someone like essentially uh

Enter in like a fetal pose to defend themselves from the things you are saying. Nervous laughing and you can't read it as nervous laughter. That was happy. And then what? I mean, also speaks volumes when it comes to the like, okay, so what actually was the intent of this? It never, you then leave. So it clearly was never about like, let's ask for a date or something like that. It was the victory over you.

Yeah. Right. And turning it into content probably without someone's permission. I will say that like what these people are trying to teach is something that like, I'm not really sure you can because there's so much vibe checking and there's so much body language reading that is like not a science and people like armchair, you know, it so much that like there is someone who is uniquely charismatic who can go up to someone and compliment them and strike up a conversation, tell if they're unwanted and leave. But there's so much that goes into that. And I already

know that this guy is not a reliable reader of the vibes. He's posting. And yeah, because he's boasting. And he's got, he's approaching with sunglasses, which is a weird approach to. Hey. How's it going on? Come here often. How do you know each other?

Shield. How do you, I said, how do you know each other? You're on camera, by the way. I'm laughing. Don't eat me. Yeah, this is the way you'd react to it. a bridge troll. I have just three riddles.

Also, him in the corner is so funny. It looks like he sat on the guy behind. Because him in the corner doesn't add anything. He's about to cut to a full frame of himself. I guess this is what the stream is, question mark? Like he looks and reacts

to himself and then cuts back and goes, just to clarify, I know he looked like a fucking idiot, but I'm actually, I'm crushing. The ultimate paradox of guys like this is that really what What's happening is they are espousing the kind of like objective truths and science that they think they have access to. But the only way to get that information would be to have women in your life who have had this experience and then have also had experiences they like and can give you. It's not a do your own research.

This is a listen to the expert scenario. But to make something like this or to even think this way, a necessary trait is that you don't have that and you don't think women are real people. And as soon as you are in that mindset, it's basically inescapable. Now women aren't real people so you don't have to respect them. Now women aren't real people so you don't ask them questions. Now women aren't real people so you don't have any platonic female relationships in your life to open that conversation with. And instead you go to this guy who you basically just think, well, I don't know the answers. women are items that disappear when they're not in my vision cone.

Like they unrendered. They're not there anymore. They're like treating people like MPCs. Yes, literally. This makes me think like, like I don't want to give obsession too much credit, but this makes me think of the movie obsession a little bit. Don't you're scaring me. Because she's being so unreasonable.

There is often a situation where guys like, I have such a crush on this girl. or woman, and I'm such a nice guy, why doesn't she like me back? And then, you know, from my reading of that movie, he's not a nice guy. He fucking sucks. Well, obsession is ultimately a cautionary tale about having negative Riz. Because, because, wow, Bear has such, he's so bad at reading the situation. But that's exactly what Jordan was just talking about,

is like, this guy can't read the situation doesn't see her as a fully formed human. So doesn't think, well, she just, she can have opinions that I don't agree with. And she doesn't know what she wants because ultimately it's, I do need to, thank you for reminding me. Me and Katie went and we saw her obsession over the weekend. Okay. Great viewing. Shot for less than a million dollars. Incredible movie. Highly recommended. 750,000. Solid four stars in a heart. She was a little, little much. She was kind of dangerous, in my opinion. A highlight of an already great movie was the iPad brainbroken 18 year old sat behind us, who initially we thought was a drunk guy trying to get attention. And then throughout the screening realized, oh my God, he literally just speaks in streamer voice.

because his life has conditioned him to think he's always on mic. Oh, no. Here are a few quotes that heightened the quality of the movie. I've kept it spoiler-free, but if you've seen the movie, I think he'll understand. Bro, she's being so weird. Facts, bro. That's fucking fact, dude. No less than 30 minutes into the movie.

She's in love with him. After chat. She's in love with him. It was so chattest this real. Unironically... Is he alone or was he with someone? Oh, he was with someone who didn't say a peep until we saw her outside the screening room.

Oh, he was a lady? He was on a date, seemed like. No. Unironically. But poor lady. Very unironically, quietly and sincerely to himself, which is, again, how I know it's real. He goes, she's obsessed with him.

40 minutes into the movie. Bro. Is this like a horror movie? 40 minutes into the movie that he paid a ticket for? And certainly he'd been on. on the internet. Been alive.

Been alive and knew that the movie was the genre of the movie. This is just fuckboy version. Dude, this is fuckboy version of running away from the train because it came towards the screen. It's indistinguishable. One hour into the movie. Man, why is she so needy? And final note, this was the highlight where out loud, I replied, yeah.

And I think I needed him to understand that we existed. They got a little sheepish after that. Other people, you're not the main character and everyone else is an NPCs. Yeah, I have to know. There were dialogue line reactions to me. Possibly, one of the quiet moments of the whole movie, a somber quiet moment immediately after that. And he said out loud, oh, that's sad. Because of the scene before, that was so bad.

Like, this is sad. I'm impressed a little bit that he's able to appropriately identify. situation as sad. It's like he was streaming it and then switching to his camera being like that was a sad moment. Also like obsession without like spoiling anything is about a guy who removes a woman's autonomy. It assumes that it is like unnecessary and then as soon as like again, nose bodies once like he might have negative consequences about it like it like it is like a Then it's sad. Yeah.

And it's like, and you can, you can read the main character as, uh, malicious or stupid or a product of the current social situation. Uh, but his actions are what they are. Yeah. And, and, and that is a. And ultimately, his intentions don't matter. Exactly. And that's a correlate to like society, right? Like in, like, because guys find themselves in these situations where, you know,

you know, if someone does like a sex crime or something, it doesn't matter the intention. What matters is the removal of someone's like bodily autonomy. Which is like a sentiment that you don't want to welcome if you know that like, either you know that you should treat people with respect and kindness or you at least like, know you need to be seen doing that is completely immaterial when it's happened. Like it literally just doesn't matter. I don't care what degree of murder it.

or like crime of passion or not, they're dead, you know? Yeah. I mean, very much in the camp of like, by the way, shout out to all the insightful video essay. It's called like Media Michael who put up,

putting out video essays for obsession in the same vein as like five hour video essay. Is Tony Soprano a bad person? Or like, is obsession a story about a swagged out shoddy? It is really funny because it's a lot of guys having to grapple with the fact that, like those video essays are

essays are often men having to grapple with the fact that there may be a negative social commentary directed towards a man of their similar age and demographic. And not a bro, not like the guy that they... Oh no,

he's a soft boy. It doesn't make any sense but I'm pretending to be nice. I just, I followed all the rules. It means you're very beautiful. Yeah, I'll I love to see you sometimes. I could never repeat that. It's okay.

I'll teach you. I love your energy though. How could I contact you? This approach, if you just look at her body language, she's smiling, she's laughing, we're getting to know each other. It's a good vibe. The only way to get good at these conversations and these approaches is to just keep going. One rep, 10 rep, 1,000 rep.

I know it's not easy. I know it's nerve-wracking. That's exactly why I built a tool that gives you a daily free-reit. Day approach her? This is like the Twitter threads. The like, how do you approach it? And it's a photo of like an AI woman? Also, it provides you all of the information about the person and then do approach it.

That doesn't make any sense. She's 36, divorced, two kids, and she just won the biggest case of her career. This is a trailer? She's sitting alone at a hotel bar in Scottsdale, maybe. This is the opening paragraph in the worst screenplay you've ever read in your life. A man with a hood, it enters. The movie ends with a gunshot. This photo's got to be AI.

Definitely. I do just want to mention, though, you know that the battle is over, like the conversations ended because he said exactly the sentiment we expressed to another video, which is the only way to get better at this is to just literally keep doing it. You just have to do it over and over again. It's like the only way to get good at cooking is to keep burning your house down every time you try because every new house you're going to start getting closer and like, well, you could read like a recipe book.

It's dangerous, though, because it's like he's the tutorial. He's the cooking tutorial for this. Obviously, like, practicing talking to strangers when it's like a welcome conversation. Like, it is a thing that like takes practice. But I just think the ways going about it, the fact that it's the meta glasses, the filming, the product. The app. Yeah. I think there's an understandable, because I'm to gesture to people that might have this question or critique or whatever.

There isn't a point to be made that there aren't a lot of tools or like obvious paths to getting over struggles, reading social cues or engaging with people or getting those reps in. Because a degree of it is an emotional stamina. Like you do get better at talking to people by having productive conversations. It does happen. Just like it happens from learning language as a baby, right? The issue is, is that like, let's say you do just care about connecting people, like, or connecting with people and you do just want to learn how to interface, right? The issue with going up to strangers, with nothing but positive intent, not even to date,

you're not filming them, say, the issue is, is that all of the anxieties that you are carrying about interacting with people, about opening yourself up socially, you are not the only person like that. It's actually very common. And every time you initiate a sudden, intense, interpersonal, what's your favorite color, who are you, conversation with someone, imagine that is happening to you in a quiet personal moment. You might be shattering the glass on somebody that is like feeling very insular, is like, sipping their coffee is like not a particularly social person.

You can't judge that based on like, well, it's a woman. They're all comfortable. or, well, they're out with a friend. They must be, like, very socially capable. Like, what if her mom, like, the, this is just me saying, like, you don't know what's going on with this person that you're cold approaching. And I completely agree with everything you just said. Imagine that her friend's mom just died and she took her friend to the beach to comfort her.

Yeah. Now place yourself in that situation. I think, she's a lot of, well, yeah, it's like, I do have a lot of female friends who, have mentioned that like people don't approach anyone anymore and they they romanticize wanting to be approached. But I think that happens in different spaces that are more welcoming for that sort of interaction. Like if you're at like a singles bar or something like that or a pottery class and you're like next to somebody at a class and you could talk about the pottery. But yeah, they're not talking about wanting to be approached at home.

Like why they might not mean that at the beach? I guess that's what. Air on the side of caution. Yeah, I think it's like air on the side of caution. He's treating it like a panacea. Like this is just how all women are. They all want to be approached and you just need to have the confidence to say what's on your mind. And I think that's exactly the wrong advice.

I don't think, you know, like when I was like 10 or something, there would just be like a more natural path to me like talking to other girls. Yeah. And I was also, I was a sheepish boy. Yeah. If not for a lot of anecdotes and context, and even with that, like at age 20, I still barely had an accurate, having spent like a decade primarily around women. I think it would be so easy.

And I think at the time, I definitely in my head was saying, like, well, you know, I grew up born women. I had a lot of female friends. And so like, I basically get it. I like basically understand women. And but really, I think what I had learned is what I'd learned the vernacular of what understanding women sounds like and what being progressive. sounds like and what being affirmative sounds like I like I had unconsciously learned the

words not the sentiment which is kind of just how it works you learn an idea before you kind of yeah yeah comprehend it and it was it wasn't until I like had actual uh adult post college uh non hometown uh purely platonic female friends where I actually got context on like oh wait no they actually and I don't maybe I should say this with a degree of shame I think it's

relatively common experience but I think I genuinely still wasn't seeing women as three dimensional ideas I was with like our cousin or a mom or an aunt I'm like yeah you know

because they're like real they're in the world that I've witnessed them being three dimensional but like girls at college like you know yeah they're like

they're totally like people, but like, they all do want to be approached and they all do want a manly man and they all do want these generic ideas that I've been given. And then you get a little older, even just like out of college, outside of that ecosystem, I felt like all of a sudden I was like, wait, no, but like sometimes they super don't. And sometimes they super do. And sometimes they are like, I don't think I also appreciated the like potential for, um, again, that niceness. Because I wouldn't feel that way. Like if someone approaches me and I'm really not interested,

I know that I always have the option to be like, leave. There's also just so, I feel like the other side of the coin, and it's like in my, to my understanding, so common is that many women are just constantly approach and constantly getting unwanted attention from people. So. Other than by guys who are like not even really expecting to get a date, but just want the power and experience of having one. Yeah, so it's just like, I personally just feel like erring on the side of caution.

I also, I feel like I can't think of a time. I can't think of a single, like, an iterance or like a example of being approached in a, like, like, I'm, I want this to be romantic way being welcome. It's like literally, there are so many times that it happened with me, especially when I was in college or in San Francisco, which San Francisco is like a whole other animal because it's a lot of tech guys and they don't know what they're doing. But. But, um, you have a lot of.

people come up to me and in a way that I'm like, oh, God, I know that you're hitting on me. I'm just trying to hang out with my friends. That has never been welcome. Yeah. The times that I have talked to strangers, and I'm going to include women in this, at a bar or in a situation in a place where it's not like a party, right? It's like out in the world. It has usually just been like.

like a very natural like, oh, I love your tattoos. Yeah. Like it's something where it's like, they literally want to get to know me for some reason. Yeah. Or like, like you're wearing a band shirt and I like that band. Right. We have some sort of shared context that that I want to approach. And if I think the issue is like the starting with romantic approach.

Like, because it's so heavy-handed. And because it, because I like don't always like being approached by strangers, but I have to assume that like, if I know not everyone is like me, but there's got to be like some amount that most people are like that. Yeah. I mean, I think it's like there is no one who always wants to be approached by people at all times. And I would, you know, I'd say the vast majority of people, the majority. of the time don't want to be. We know plenty of people who are like always down, like always just really down to chat or engage.

I don't know anyone who is always down, regardless of their like relationship status or who they're attracted to or any of that. I don't know anyone who is always down to flirt or to have someone trying to date them. Yeah. Quite honestly, like I think, and again, I'm like astral projecting and talking partially to like 19 year old version of Jordan. To be very clear, I was not doing pickup artistry. Quite the opposite.

I was just like very sheepishly kind of being like, I don't know what girls want. Oh, brother. I think I was doing myself a disservice. And a lot of these like kids, and I think it is largely like teenagers and like resentful younger 20s dudes or whatever that watch this kind of content. I was never watching this kind of.

I would never watch this kind of content. But I understand the sentiment. If I was like a two out of 10, I understand these 10 out of 10 mindset stuff. I think they are. doing themselves a disservice by thinking the thing they want is conversations like this, or that they would enjoy dating, let alone a relationship, with someone where this is the base case. You don't really enjoy that. It also always ends at getting someone's number. And it's

like, usually it's like a fake number or it's like just whatever I need to say to get you to go. Yeah. Or like the Instagram one, I think is always really interesting because I think it is kind of, I cannot imagine any of those Instagram conversations going anywhere, partially because, like, messaging is necessarily neutral. Like, you can't. There's no one while texting is like, mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. And like laughing and you can't, like, control a conversation in, like, you can't in person.

But like, yeah. I think it's just about having it. I think it's, they look at their DMs and they are like, 50 women. Like, they don't give. space to say no or to like disengage from the conversation. Because I do feel like it would be a little bit different. Um, to be like,

what is it, and I'm literally just spitballing this, but it's like, is it cool if I contact you sometime? No worries if not. Like I'll, I'll get out of here. Like I don't want to bother you.

Even cynically, if anyone is looking for actual like, I want to get more dates or when I'm talking to strangers, just cynically what actually works, it is so much more effective and attractive, in my opinion, to make people feel safe. To showcase that versus showcasing like, look how loud I am.

I think the ultimate move is to give her your number. Yeah. Don't ask her for her Instagram or her number. Give her your number. That is like such a like classy fucking gesture because you're essentially saying, hey, I'm interested in you. If you are interested in me, give me a call. Yeah. Put it in her hands.

Even like, hey, can I give you my number? Like is I wouldn't feel comfortable like forcing it upon someone or obviously the context. It's like the issue with this is it's impossible to enumerate all of the. scenarios because there's different, like, I've had experiences where, like, I go to the same coffee shop every day and I run into someone and then over time, you, like, strike up a conversation and then you start to get the hint that there's interest there. You know what I mean? And then you, like, you're like chatting and like, you don't even have a way to contact each other. You just see each other in routine. And then, like, you learn more about the person.

and then maybe they'll be like offer something some information to you like in this instance they were like oh yeah i um work a shift at this place you should try you should come by and see what you're describing you're not forcing something right yeah you're it's it's more of a like hey this might take a long time but i'm getting to know a person and that's really cool and i'm also feeling out how they feel about me. I'm not like inserting myself into the situation. And that can happen in one interaction, but it's just like all of these things are so delicate that I feel like these guys RIS influencers are like working with such crude

tools. And maybe you're getting, I almost feel like it's a, what's the term? Like it's an ego thing where it's like, I just want to get the number and that's like it. That's the win. Also, are these guys, sorry, these guys like kind of naturally disincentivized from actually pursuing any kind of relationship? Because you can't really make this content if you're at ever, you shouldn't really make this content. Anyone who's at like the top of the funnel for this kind of content pipeline, treating women and people in general three dimensionally, which I know can be frustrating. It's because it needs no immediate gratification and it's complicated.

Blatigal. part of it is acknowledging that like we're saying all of these things about how like women desire agency and safety and uh you need to be conscientious of that and always um and really just people people in it know and it is true that we are all beholden to uh gender performance standards and in general if in a in a trad head dynamic the guy will be expected to kind of push it forward to all that. Those can both be true, but you still have to err on the side of caution. That's the thing. Even if it means not pursuing a relationship that might have had a chance. This stuff is super heavy-handed and it's super prescriptive. Like, like that it's, well, this is the, you need three milligrams of complimenting her appearance and then...

The reps. Establish, you know, break the physical barrier. The game did. The book. Yeah. so much damage to this stuff. This is another guy on TikTok who does these sort of Metaglossus POV videos. Great profile picture.

I got it. We should change us to that. That's awesome. Oh, are they a YouTuber? Yeah, I think they also post like longer form on YouTube. And they got 100,000 subscribers. Based on that photo, it appears that they found in the bathroom. I think I've got a bigger one too.

So they made this smaller somewhere recently. God, it'd be funny to put that in the bathroom. So they did actually change their name recently? They did. Because of... Or maybe even created a new account. I can't... I think they created a new account.

Or this is their backup, maybe. No, I could say. But this guy sort of has a tendency to approach people in, like, grocery stores or, like, in cafes. And a lot of them are employees while they're working. And so that adds an extra element of... That adds the... stop accosting people at their work. Also, 6-1, POV.

He doesn't speak for all of us. 6-1, by the way. Oh, 6-1. Thank you. That does help. The reason that he changed his name or, like, made a new account is because of a video he made of this woman. And this is a stitched TikTok from her talking about it.

He used to go by. by Zay D-B-O-V. She's, and this is, she's working at a grocery store. Mm-hmm. Whose colors I don't recognize. Republics. I got to, would need to see the uniform, but. Yo.

Whoa. Hi. So, I want to, like, go over this whole entire video, because this dude walks up to me at my job with his shady-ass glasses. mind you, I like, I'm a very socially awkward person. I obviously in the video, I'm uncomfortable. And I'm a good, like, I'm a nice person. I'm on the clock working, obviously.

And I like, I don't know. I just, I'm not rude to customers. It sucks that she even has to say, like, hey, I'm nice. Like, also, it's a dead giveaway when he's got the sunglasses on indoors. So they're always sunnies? I actually just have no idea. I think you can actually get... Oh, because, yeah, there were sunglasses to start.

I think in this case, it's sunglasses, I'm sure. I'm sure with these guys, it's always sunglasses, right? The entry table or whatever. Like, you can get prescription ones and stuff. Oh, that sucks. That's so weird. Yeah, like, because it's a start. I'm pretty sure they were just sunglasses.

Yeah, I think I believe so. I think the, like, the V1 was all just ray-band sunglasses. Probably better for the, like, the images. But you can, like, get a variety of frames now. Yeah. Like, the whole industry of these kinds of sunglasses is expanding wildly right now. I really genuinely cannot understand. To me, it feels no different than like, my, you know, my phone's off.

I'm not doing anything with it, but I'm holding it like this. If I was just talking, don't you feel incredibly uncomfortable? It's like having a gun point out of it. That's the thing. That's like what it. That is what, there was a brief window of time before the average person was like aware of what was happening when someone was wearing those glasses. And it didn't feel like that. And so then, then it's just like filming someone without their awareness, which is even creepier than filming someone without their consent with their awareness.

You know what I mean? But then, yeah, black ray bands. Oh, but then people became aware of the sunglasses or they, they were. were at the time sunglasses or just the rim of those glasses now. And it is essentially just doing this. And like you're just, you're looking at Instagram. You're not, you might not even be filming me. But the, it literally is just, who it naturally, which is you're, what the fuck?

What are you doing? Warby Parker just made a deal with Google for their new glasses that are essentially the same thing. Is this like, and they just incredibly short-sighted? I get that that deal is going to make some cash, but it is permanent brand damage. It is like... No, but like, I actually think they're going to make a ton of money on it. That's the problem is that this has made so much money for meta. I think the PR is bad enough, which is kind of scary.

There was a... I guess we did call the meta glasses, not Rayban meta glasses. Yeah. What's most surprising to me is that like I was around for Google Glass and the reaction to Google Glass, the hypothetical reaction to Google Glass was so much. more severe where it would be like you couldn't go into bars

like they'd be like you can't wear this year and you couldn't really do half the stuff that you couldn't really do the thing that they're doing with the metal glasses like you could but like not really and it would be like I feel like we're in such a weird era right now

where everyone's like if you weren't really sentient yet like if you were like let's say like the early 2010's late 2000s, you weren't like actually alive. Either you weren't born or you had like kid brain, full kid brain. I do think there's this weird memory holing we've done of the 2000s and 2010s where we've gone like, yeah, like people were just like they are back then,

but they were, you know, like, they weren't as cynical as they are right now and they didn't really have like the media literacy we do right now. But, you know, they were, we treat everyone from before the like 2020s as Facebook parents. Like they just, They're easily tricked and thrown around. I'd be honest with you, man. We had a hell of a lot more skepticism about the Google glass than anyone has ever had about the better glasses. We were calling it loser shit.

We were pushing back on it. It's like baffles me that like there isn't a similar reaction. It's so weird. There has been some reports of like, I read this BBC article about the popularity of these kinds of glasses, like blowing up around the world. and how the response has been, even though the response is actually not being reported that much.

And it does feel like a big PR campaign from meta in particular. But there are reports of stuff like a woman grabbing the meta glasses off a man's face in a subway and breaking them in half. People are like pissed where they're like, you're recording me. and they'll be like, no, I'm not. And then, you know, altercation's happening. It's like, because there are people who use them as smart glasses. And so it's like, yes, it's dumb, but also like, that is also an issue. But the real thing is fees shouldn't exist.

There was a woman who told the story of going to a cooking class with her husband while wearing the meta glasses and recording what she was doing. And she started to realize everyone else in the class was very, uncomfortable. And she, towards the end of the class, asked the woman next to her. And the woman was like, yeah, I don't want to be recorded. And you are not just looking at your hands. You're looking around as well. Sure. And so then that woman wrote this long story of like, this is how I realized what an invasion of privacy this is. Yeah. And it's like, yeah, that woman's clearly tone deaf. but she learned, you know, just not by anyone being violent towards her,

but just seeing how uncomfortable she was making people. Yeah. Well, maybe, actually, maybe this isn't the case because people do it to the gym or whatever, but like I hear that and I'm like, would you set up like a camera with a tripod? Do you get why that would be weird or that would also be normal? But the thing is, a camera with a tripod could just be pointed down at your station. Yeah.

And then you as a bystander can look at where the camera is pointed. Listen, bro, you ain't watching that video. There's no world where you get home and you're like, what was it, chicken, you eat it or you, like, throw it on the ceiling. Oh, that's right. I eat the chicken after. I was going to say, like, I don't know if I've said this part of the story, but it's been enough time. In, like, 2013 or whatever, when I was wearing my friend's Google Glass in downtown Atlanta and we met Robin Fick who had a, who had a, who had a, who had a, concert next door at the Fox Theater. He was drunk and my friend told me to walk up to Robin Thick

with the glasses on and I did that. And then he was like, we were showing him the glasses and he put them on and he's the first thing he said and this is 100% crossed my heart to die like handle the Bible. The first thing he said is can you see through women's clothes with these? That is an actual factual thing that Robin Thick said to me. And I have photo proof of him wearing the Google glass next to me. That's such a... To have the synapses immediately go to like x-ray glasses that kids would talk about. Like the ones you buy in the back of a comic book?

And so that is like... So when I think about that, and I think about that as a, wow, you don't think about the privacy invasion. You don't think about the autonomy of someone like being able to like kind of exist in their own space. You just think of like, how can I use this for me for my own, like, gain? I do that sometimes, I had my mind broken one time by just watching. I think it was like the, oh, I'm out of touch moment for me.

This was like a few years ago. I just remember a specific video of like, girl was filming herself in her car and then, I think it was just like a car was going like insanely fast, coming out of like a freeway exit and just like almost hit her so close that it took the, the side mirror off and it would the video was posted as like a look how fucking close this car was but I remember watching the video and my first thought before you get into the car part was like

you just have your phone filming you like because it wasn't a GoPro it wasn't that kind of set up it was that she started recording herself and was like eating a meal and like doing her makeup and I was like oh we see all the big ones but everyone's just filming themselves that for nothing just like yeah why would I miss this moment that is inconceivable to me to that didn't for not work to like electively just be sat there so that I what like I do think it's just like such a part of our society yeah it's definitely like just people are just far more used to being on camera performing for camera even even that 18 year old like sounded like they're like performing for a camera that's like

not even there. Dude, it really was like space brain. All right. Let's let her tale continue. I was like the lady from Daredevil. He tries to give my number, my Instagram. I have Instagram, but I said I don't have Instagram because I'm not interested what so fucking ever in this like whole situation.

But I texted this guy kindly to delete this video because first of all, I have like legal issues behind it. And I don't want some like certain person knowing where I were. Oh, Jesus. Yeah, that's a big one. Yeah. Oh. Okay.

Okay, let's hear his response. You think it's probably very sensitive, right? His powery? This makes me think about, like, how when people, there's a lot of crimes that have been done in this world that are based on someone figuring out where someone is in social media, either to find. that person and do harm to them or to like know that they're not at home and to like rob them or something like that and and like that is just like super basic this is also just like oh my god like we just take it for granted it's so easy to just be obviously don't film people without their permission but this is just like it's it's like an illustration of why that's like it's duh

you know but then you know treating people three dimensionally they're not a person that lives in house and has positive or negative relationships with people in their life that might have legal issues in their life. This is a employee of a grocery store. Like when you were going to a clothing store in GTA and this NPC only exists behind the counter. No, it's literally like they think they're in GTA. And I feel like streamer brain has like made people act like that. Yeah. Like when the camera's filming, I'm in Grand Theft Auto and there's like they're not real people. Yeah. Why would they be? They're off camera. They don't exist.

I have a friend that got hit by a car and her insurance is like in a battle with the driver's insurance over, you know, how much she should be compensated and like how much of her medical bills and stuff should be covered. And her insurance told her just so you know it's pretty common for them to hire a private investigator to keep tabs on you. The insurance company? Yeah. That, yeah. Because they want to prove she wasn't really as her as she said she was. Did private eyes ever do like murders anymore? Like, do they ever look into like an affair of a woman in the, they stole the diamond?

They're like only stalkers now. So maybe it's not even like she's scared she's going to be killed. Maybe it's scared she's not going to get payment for something that she is due. It could be anything. She's entitled to her privacy. Exactly. Yeah. I told him to delete the video.

And he sends me. me messages. He's like, oh, let me contact my team or my manager or something saying, oh, like, he'll let me know if I can take down this video. And then he's like, by the way, I thought you were really cute or beautiful and I actually do want to hang out with you. And then I replied and I'll show my screenshots. The way you approached me at my job was inappropriate and pretty much has the same concept in all your posts. You do the same thing in every video, but recording people without permission is not cool at all. And the whole situation just makes you creepy true i had talked with my managers and told them about the situation so if you do end up coming

back and here just please leave me alone it's genuinely just weird at this point and i know you're not going to take down the video because it's your most successful video that's the worst fucking thing too however it just shows how disrespectful and discussing you are the fact that recording yourself has to be so uninteresting you try making money off of other people making them uncomfortable facts fucking cooked but he left the video up right until he stopped gaining followers off of the video of me. Okay, so he stopped getting followers and deleted the video. And mind you, he started posting his top four, I think his most recent four videos,

are at Publix. And obviously I work at Publix. So he's going into Publix, finding people. I don't know if it's intentional, but because the only video on his page that did over like 10,000 views, was my video and it had 2 million views? I actually haven't been able to find a straight answer on whether he took the video down or whether it was reported and got taken down. But then eventually his account that he was posting these from was banned and then he started

that other 6-1 POV account. Can we find his YouTube? Oh, he's doing like a megal. Okay. Oh, but also grocery. Here are some of the ones. Can you store by popular? That other guy, like the other guy's approach obviously also sucks, but I do think there's

something to be said about like the grocery store method is almost like going uncomfortable, aggressive dude easy difficulty or it's like you can't get upset at me because you're at work. Is this just my imagination? Or does picking up women at the grocery store sound like some kind of weird like fantasy thing where it's like I'm so cool even the grocery store is my playground so this guy pivoted into this content because he was doing man on the street

oh is this old the older ones are like the other yeah because when we start by popular it's like all these videos are like man on the street but that kind of makes sense because he's clearly chasing what's the trend the trend is and man on the street was very trendy for yeah it was a minute we would not

have this guy is not six one he's not 6-1 100% he's not 6-1 Maybe 6-1 means something different to him Maybe he only talks to really tall ladies Takashi 6-1 Craziest place you've done it Shut the fuck up boy

Chill The videos of him doing Like the Pickup stuff isn't even Popping off on YouTube Sure that other channels Getting them or whatever But doesn't it feel like kind of 2015

A little bit Well I mean If you think of um hawk to a girl that was a couple years ago I feel like that was the yeah I don't know how old these videos are because we just sort of by popular because I was curious where the majority of his subscribers

came from which is this stuff I guess we can go back to news since apparently you can't scroll far enough to find the fucking glasses so many okay so he's already pivoted out of it it looks like so is that's her he put it up on YouTube look at the caption can we can we watch it just for

we don't have to show it on the um Dang. Yeah, to summarize, he just walks up to her and then she perfectly predicts everything he's about to do. It is, even for a guy's this unselfaware, that was completely humiliating. Yeah. And he gave it, he posted it with the captain, P-O-V. Riz.

That was like a more, it would be less humiliating to have not tried at all. It's humiliating that he said he's 25. It's like an embarrassment to develop frontal lobes everywhere. Yeah, good point. Yeah. That's crazy. This is like a full adult saying this out loud. Can you, and the, what's always telling to is like, this stuff is always set up so that

the power dynamic implicitly limits their ability to really say or do anything, right? Because they think it's because they're risen. What's actually happening is these people are being polite and or scared. You'll notice the moment she kind of like has any kind of, as you say, like, if she perfectly parries, he like, you can see that, you know, like if your heart rate goes up really quick or like, you get cortisol maxing. your voice gets wobbly. You can feel it and it's like pushing through.

Or if you're, it's your like, what is it, public speaking anxiety where it's like, you can feel it kind of. That immediately happened. And he said, he went like,

well, if it's, do you have an Instagramling? Like, you lost it. I really detest about this type of, um, like this type of content creator

is just like a, cloud at all costs, like type creator, while they'll literally just do anything. And again, don't approach people to do this, but in a conversation like that, good opportunity to score normie points by being like, oh, that's weird, do people say that to you a lot? Sure. Right. Or like, that's not okay. But he did approach her going,

damn, whoa! Whoa! And she says, oh, I think we were just going to say, I'm tall. And instead he says, oh, you're not tall, I'm taller than you? And she's like, no, you're not. And also like, that's not how tall is. is defined. Yeah, it's not, yeah.

Wemby doesn't say to other NBA players, you're not tall. You're not tall. He titled the video, she's so tall. Yeah, that's true.

So that's extra funny. But it does remind me of, I'm so short. I'm afraid. I had a roommate in San Francisco who was 6-1, and she was really pretty, and everyone always told her

that they were, you're not 6-1, because I'm 6-1. Oh, yeah, because you're a little taller. And she'd be like, no, you're not 6-1. You're something else. I think 6-1 is the height of tall girl and the movie Tall Girl.

That makes sense. Oh, and that is actually the height of persecution also. Yeah. That would be a player. Are sometimes 6-1, but sometimes taller. Cameron Brink, she's 6-4, 6-3, 6-4. And Britney Greiner is. That Cameron Brink video is she's on campus and I think people are like, you're not 6-4.

I think that happens to her. I remember that, baby. We watched that maybe. We watched it. Yeah. She's great. Cool. So,

this sucks. Isn't this the Mr. Beast thing? Yeah, it is. Is it literally? It's literally that. I mean, I don't know if it currently is,

but if we go to Mr. Beast, it might. That's really funny. That feels so 2010. Got a cookie. Get a cookie. Amazing. Yeah.

Follow for follow. It works for children. Oh, yeah, you're right. What am I? I actually get a cookie. What?

A kid waiting patiently. next to the like the mailbox. I'll never forget. I'll never forget for when I asked for a cookie at Publix and they told me I was too old. Oh, and you were a child. I was a child. And you were too tall. And you were approached by a man with metaglasses.

And I was like, what are those? Whoa. Wow. He's like, Jarvis, I'm from the future. Don't cut your hair. Don't cut your hair, please. And seen. Yeah, no, this guy should be.

So everything's going to be great. Oh, you were talking about BBC article. Yeah, so there's a lot of interesting parts in this article. Oh, yeah, Baws. Okay, so this is, so they call them Baws, Andrew Bawsworth. He's a CTO at Meta, formerly Facebook. And I know they call him Baws, because I used to think that guy was cool when I was a teenager. Looking at that photo of him wearing this, like, God.

Was asked on Instagram two weeks ago about the stigma around people wearing smart glasses today. He responded by saying the sheer number of Meta Rayban sold suggests these are widely accepted. That's a dumb response. Also, they talk about a lot of like weird stuff around these glasses or around creating them. In Kenya, there was like a factory of people tasked with watching the videos made through meta, meta's glasses to create AI training data for the company. Yeah. And they said they were being required to watch graphic content like sex and bathroom usage, which was recorded on the glasses.

I mean, this is like probably not something that people are thinking about is happening, but it every, every video that's like uploaded, you have to assume a trust and safety person at a company is watching it because they have to make sure that it's not breaking laws and stuff. And as a result, there's been horrifying articles about the lack of care and guardrails taken to protect the eyeballs of the people who have these jobs. And this is even like also Facebook, but the Facebook moderation stuff that is not these things, just like Facebook moderation in the past. Like this has been written about for a long time. I feel like it's like reduced people's skepticism. Like they're like always kind of filming yourself, uh, going to obsession, talking out loud.

Do you think it's like the same mindset that like, um, you know, you hear about like that lady in Europe that got scammed with the really obvious Photoshop's of Brad Pitt in the hospital and stuff like that. We look at that with like a degree of very normal cynicism. We're like, there's not a Nigerian prince trying to give you diamonds. Like what, how the fuck does this trick people? We, I feel like it's gone like full circle

where somehow we remained skeptical about that kind of stuff and then the next generation lost the skepticism again for some reason and is now like, like, so I have on my laptop, I have that little, you know, The stick on cover the weapon. Yeah, I need to get one of those. Like, partially motivated by this genuinely can be accessed. This is a real thing that could exist.

But like, also, we live in the panopticon and it gives me a rational or irrational comfort. I look at that and I go like, okay, I feel a little better. The idea of wearing these glasses and like, say I'm not even filming, I'm wearing these glasses and I just like went to the urinal. I wouldn't piss. I would take the glasses off. It's like so obvious to me immediately that exposing myself to that is like I don't know how that doesn't make you so uncomfortable you don't do it. But it's the same thing as like I remember seeing this meme when like Amazon Alexa and all of those like home assistants started coming out. There was this meme that was like the 1950s and it was like, don't talk over the telephone.

It might be wiretapped. And then today, wiretap, can you set a timer for 30 minutes? And it's like, yeah, we just have these things in our home. And I think we trust that tech companies are doing their due diligence to protect our privacy. And they're not. And that's what a lot of this BBC article is. It's like, not only is it people being recorded against their knowledge, it's people who maybe are being recorded with their knowledge. But then the users don't realize that their footage could leak very easily.

One thing that I didn't mention here about these workers in Kenya is that the camera has allegedly been recording when people did not know it was recording. And so that's good for meta because they want to build, they want to train their AI models. one of the big issues with training AI models is having data, like, to train on and having, like, um, like, uh, uh, what's it called? Labeled data. That's not the, like, like, I think labeled data is close enough. But anyway, um, so now they can generate a, um, they can generate a, um, they can generate a, like a giant database of, of data that is like, recordings of, of, um, someone like walking out in the world and it's going to give them the ability to well first of all just like it's it's it's certainly it's basically surveillance cameras being used to train

AI of people's private moments and so like in one people said they had no idea such videos had been made you might look at sex and think were you wearing the glasses during sex but what if you just put them on your nightstand yes oh you're so right. I literally didn't think. I didn't even think of that. I thought of that while I was forming that sentence. So like why would you? Because I was thinking like, baby, I got to keep the glasses on. Yeah. Yeah. No, yeah. It's not. It's nanny cam shit. It's like, yeah, because if you're recording, in the corner. If it's recording video, it's almost like who watches the watchman a little bit, because, you know, if I'm a, a POV TikToker and there's a light when I'm recording to tell people around me,

there's not a light recording when Facebook is silently capturing video and then sending it up to home base. I know that there's the phenomenon in Japan, right, where it's illegal or rather. You can't have a silent shutter. You have to have a loud shutter sound because people do upskirts and stuff. And I remember hearing that and being like having the same instinctual response that I think a lot of people did that I now, in retrospect, realize is like a little bit racist in that I just went like, wow, what a crazy culture. Like, that just happens in Japan. I've heard about that happening in Japan. That just happens.

As opposed to, I think it's closer to just it's acknowledged and challenged in Japan as opposed to like, yeah, well, it happens here. But, you know, you can't make me silence my phone. You can't let me not do that. Don't tread on me. I struggle to think of a reason that we should also not make that the case. It says 7 million pairs. I think the number is probably closer to 10 now.

So they sold 2 million and like 24. And that 20, 23, 24. And then they sold $7 million in 2025 alone. So wild. So that number is tripled. And it's like the, and we get these numbers from the manufacturer that Rayban works with. Because they're a public company. Yeah.

And so then they report these things. And this is just meta. How much do they cost? Like $220. And they're getting cheaper. And that's why I brought up Warby Parker's because that deal with Google Glasses is making it more affordable. and more people can get these glasses. It's just the, it is the like,

I'm trying to think of a comparable product that is, I feel like there's fewer of them that have this kind of purchase these days, but like I feel like there was a virality to a lot of specific tech stuff in the 2010s. Like for the reason my brain's going to the Uya, but like that was more of just like a shitty scam or mess. Yeah. But like what is, I mean, well, sorry, what was a question?

I was just going to ask you if you remember any like everyone's getting this thing. And now in retrospect, it was kind of silly, but like everyone's buying it. I mean, FitBits had a craze, and they're still around, but there was more of a craze in the past. There are other, in the Google Glass, Google I.O. 2013 or whatever, there were three products announced. One of them was the Nexus Q, which immediately died because it was basically worse Roku slash Chrome. Cube like a Cue like the letter Cue. Oh but Chromecast didn't exist yet. And so basically it was like this big orb.

Oh, oh, I recognize that thing. Yeah, yeah, that that thing immediately failed. Um, those get the, wait, those ox inputs, what the fuck is that in the back of it? Ethernet and, uh, oh yeah, those are. Audio. Yeah, HTML, like mini-htimi, what are the ones? USB. Those are audio.

Right and left. audio outputs and inputs. Interesting. Anyway, yeah. Apparently one of Google's worst hardware flops. But what's notable is that Google kind of famously does a thing where they like trail

a market and then create like a B minus version of a product. Like a lot of Google products are like that. Like I don't know if you've noticed. But like if you think about most Google products are like the B minus maintained the bare minimum amount version of a product.

And the Apple or Microsoft one, then the Google one, and then like the Huawei, the Amazon. That's actually as good, but that doesn't have the brand. But yeah, so it's like, it makes sense now that like Meta sold 10 million of these glasses that they get into the market. Man, that's so crazy. Apple's also getting into the market. Snap has said they'll release a new version of its smart glasses.

Yeah, Snap did have them. But meta has 82% of the market, so Snap's not doing super great. I understand that they have some, or like the pitches that they have some utility outside of just recording. When I hear about metal glasses, you might as well just say camera to be. It's an AI agent on your face, basically. Yeah, it's AI and like a VR component. People are like, oh. Can I just say that I want to tell people from a media, media literacy thing, I want to call out a very common technology.

that tech people use. Tracy Clayton, a meta person, told the BBC that people should behave responsibility responsibly with any technology. We have teams dedicated to limiting and combating misuse, but as with any technology, the onus is ultimately on the individual people to not actively exploit it.

You are making the glasses. You are creating the tool that is easily exploited, and then you are saying it's up to the individual. This is the same argument that gun manufacturers is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I didn't even mean to make it. Make it. Like, we will create a killing machine, but it can't kill anyone unless a human touches it.

Are you crazy? I mean, we've created the killing algorithm, but like, uh, don't apply it to guns. You don't apply it to drone warfare. Don't put, okay, we attach to gaddling gun to the consumer grade drone that we sell. Don't use it. I mean, behave responsibly with the drone based Gatlin gun. Also, the funny thing about this is that there are built. AI components that could, like, there's not even like a malicious thing happening.

It is a glitch happening where it records without you knowing. So it's like, why would. And I mean, sometimes I'm like, glitch. But I, but it's not a conspiracy theorist, but that is actually on you, Tracy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God, this looks annoying as fuck. I can't see my, I'm trying to do the dishes. get out of the way.

I'm trying to make my matchat. Oh, God. You? I don't get it. I know. I don't like this at all. I recently got progressive lenses, and that was hard enough to get you.

Can you move out of the fucking way? God, he's so bad at the game. What a stupid fucking game. What a shitty game. For what? The 30 second elevator? Oh, I mean, that's one thing that I do think is a little bit demonic. Is the like, brother, there's got to be

10 seconds. a day where you're not doing something. Right. Yes. This, this video is missing people walking past you on the sidewalk, giving you the stank face. Yeah. Like going, what the hell? Wondering if you were recording them. Flipping you off? This is, I, wait, no, no, no. I refuse to believe that this is what people are doing. I don't fucking believe them. People don't

even do this on their Apple watch and it's made for it. Well, that's the thing. This is like, um, you create a problem and sell people the solution. Right. Do you have to wear the ugly wrist? or is this just a cool style that he's going on? I think it's just a, I don't even know what the hell that is. You do have to touch your finger in that way. Yeah, there's gesture controls. That's another thing where it's like, I don't know how we've come full circle again,

but I thought the lesson of motion controls that we all kind of realized is that it's actually very unsatisfying to not have kinetic feedback. Yeah. Like it just feels shitty. Yeah. What the fuck? Stop showing this woman's legs. So why are we looking at this woman's legs?

Use your phone. It's a, it's a reveal that. Yeah, look. Oh, look, a woman who doesn't realize she's being recorded in a, is now in an ad. Why would you put this in the ad? She's probably, I have to assume this is actually a closed set.

Right. Oh, yeah. But, but, but it still illustrates the problem. How did it get past everyone making it? Because everyone making it is inside of the distortion zone. Oh, can you show me that clip again? Sorry,

that won't we just watch. Um, what the fuck is she holding? What is that? A phone? A phone. A what? A what?

Why? But she's like tapping it. Yeah. You can't send it. It's an old... Wait, what did Casey Nistadt say about this? I type on my cat. She must have a wrist problem.

Casey Nysad has become like a big proponent of this. Oh, dude. He is really good at being the first loser or everything. He's my three favorite features of the meta rayband display. Probably number one is text messaging. It keeps me for him to take my phone out and engage. It's also great what I'm having like a conversation I'm not fully into. I get an important message.

I can actually interact with it. Dude, he's... doing the exact same stuff you show in like a medicine commercial? Yeah. It's like before, yeah, before I got Blinbenko For my head diarrhea.

Without Blombonko for my head diarrhea, I couldn't play football with my son. And it's just like, Blinbock will fucking kill you. Do not take Blumbochers. Yeah, do not take Brumbochow. It'll record everything you've ever done. It'll record all your sex and send it to Mark Zuckerberg.

What would you want? The constant, like already my phone disrupts me too much. Why do I want constant beeps and boops in my eyeballs? This is the same argument that dating shows use in their intro when they talk about how dating on the apps is just become too bad. So I'm on love or death island where I either find my love or I'm killed. Live on NBC. Yeah. I do wonder.

It's funny. You joke, but that show's probably like, it's in development, actually. It's so telling that like, it's like impossible for, especially, I mean, this is kind of Casey's old career, but like impossible to understand when people say like, everyone's like literally on their phone too much. You're filming every content you go to. You should like live in the moment and they are right. I'll put my phone here. Right. And so now I'm still in the moment.

Always. But it's like you're not in the moment. You actually have literally just changed your head angle of doing the. same disengaging from the moment. Stopped an in-person activity with your friend to focus on your iPhone. You don't use your hands. Oh my God, iPhone. Oh my God, he's pointing to his iPhone.

More like anti-social media. They should call it that. Can you imagine a just like, sad boys everybody. Somebody was like, hey, you need to touch grass until you just put grass on your phone case. I'm doing it. I have grass. It's a new grass app.

It's all over my face. It puts grass near me wherever I am. I just have grass app. It's the, um, it's the wall from smart house where they like, they like look outside into the meadow. Oh, dude. I mean, does she come with it? Does Katie Segal come with, come with the house, come with the glasses?

Do I come with the glasses? Does Mark Zuckerberg get to watch me come with the glasses? God, especially if that prescription, because that I'm like, okay, well, I have to fucking I'm like doing something. Oh my God. In that BBC article, the most horrifying example they give is a woman posted on social media that, and of course, who knows if these stories are real, whatever. But she said she was getting a bikini wax and she looked at her technician and saw

that she didn't take her meta glasses off. And she said, I'm sorry, can you take those off before you do what you're going to do? and she said, I can't the prescription. That's like, I'm picturing it as like the vision that the predator has where it's like, it's showing a thermal outline of where to do the bikini wax and it's like, it's guiding you.

I'm dying. We're going to go ahead over to Sad Boys Nights where we're going to fucking chill dog. Oh, who's this guy? I'm going to talk about some Love Island, which we've been watching, Jacob and myself at the very least. and how prediction markets are ruining reality TV that I love.

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