Sad Boyz - Morning Routine Guy Crashes Out (w/ Ify Nwadiwe)

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

Ify Nwadiwe joins Jarvis and Jordan to discuss Ashton Hall's morning routines, his take on 'copycats', and what it signals for the modern meaning of masculinity. Go to https://www.Zocdoc.com/SADBOYZ to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. Head to https://www.squarespace.com/SADBOYZ to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code SADBOYZ. Sad Boyz Nightz #106 Check out 100+ bonus episodes at: https://patreon.com/sadboyz 00:00:00 Ify Nwadiwe! 00:01:30 Death of the "Celebrity" 00:08:20 Lone Wolf /Faux Millionaire Aesthetic 00:12:41 Mouth Taping 00:15:10 Chocolate Chip Nipples 00:16:39 Metrosexual 00:17:47 Sponsored By: Squarespace 00:19:49 Saratoga Water 00:21:21 Solving By Consuming 00:24:54 Morning Routine 00:32:16 How Men Eat Bananas 00:34:47 Sponsored By: ZocDoc 00:36:37 Face Ice Bath 00:40:36 Coaching Pyramid 00:42:35 Breakfast 00:48:10 Copycats 00:50:58 Addressing The Copycats 00:53:41 Nuances of AI 00:56:38 Nuance Is Dead 00:58:46 What is Masculinity in 2025? 01:00:10 Say It With Your Chest 01:04:59 Facts & Feelings 01:08:00 Politics Isn't (Shouldn't Be) a Team Sport 01:10:46 Individualism/Selfishness 01:12:53 Whose Approval Are You Seeking? 01:14:38 You Can't Erase History, Racism Still Exists 01:21:38 Mislead Young Men 01:25:17 Educating Others 01:28:19 Copying or Mocking? 01:31:23 Mark Wahlberg Morning Routine 01:34:27 Sad Boyz NIGHTZ #106 01:35:15 Morning Routine (Revised) 01:38:12 Servant 01:41:28 What's the Workout Routine? 01:45:29 The Unaccounted Time 01:49:39 Surely He's Not Selling Anything? 01:53:41 His Older Content 01:59:20 Sad Boyz Nightz #106 🎬 CREW 🎬 Hosted by Jarvis Johnson and Jordan Adika Produced & Edited by Jacob Skoda Produced by Anastasia Vigo Outro music by @prod.typhoon & @ysoblank

Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. Oh, I like this. I'm trying to drop my voice a little bit today. We actually just sound the way we always have. I just wanna, we've always sounded like this. We're joined by a very masculine friend of ours.

Guy like us. He's kinda like us, but he's also not like us. Hashtag Kendrick, what up Kenny? We're joined by Ify Waddyway. What is up? Hey, how's it going? How you doing? We brought you in for a very special episode of Soundwaves. This is like where we have to sit the kids down on like a Sunday afternoon and really explain what's happening. It's Buff Guy Bible study. Yeah. Buff Guy Bible study. The priest is in. We all woke up at 3.30 AM. Yeah. You were actually reading. We all woke up at 330 a.m. You were actually reading we all woke up at 352 a.m.

You were reading to a class of elementary school kids, and I came over and whispered in your ear Yeah, that Ashton Hall had dropped a new morning Stoically at the time, but obviously it hit you to say the way the camera zoomed dramatically Yeah, but in that moment you knew what you had to do and it was to wage war against morning routines everywhere for further oil You'll know for the weapon because he has methods methods of ass destruction Okay, so I'm not sure. Yeah. That hit. I don't know. You're really connected. Okay. So, uh, we doctor. So if he and I have been texting back and forth since the more, uh, since Ashton Hall's morning

routine went viral and, uh, at the risk of this being completely irrelevant by the time this episode comes out, we, we,. We are gathered here today to discuss everything that is this man. I went from not knowing anything about him to knowing entirely too much, realizing he was way bigger than I even knew and had so much lore. Yeah. I've not invested nearly as much time as the two of you have partly to kind of discover it on the show. But I was delivered the big one, organically. Where were you when you first saw the work? Yeah, someone came to my ear, whispered, first of all, they hit a second tower, irrelevant,

25 years old. I don't know why they were talking about that. But yeah, I saw it organically and there's always that tiny little bit of like trad mask instinct I have to batter away like a little cobweb where you're like, so sick. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah, man. That's me. Well, that's what's funny. Cause that's the, I think realm I ended up covering is seeing all these copycat videos where it started off with jokes. And then there's been now some like genuine copycats where they're like, this is cool. And I get it. I was in my early 20s once. Yeah, yeah, I was in

my early 20s. Once I watched American Psycho and I was like, you know, aside from the like murderous intent, I like his morning routine. What do they call it? American cool guy should be called me in a movie. It should be called American bad ass. Like none of the scenes of him killing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just, just him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Blast iffy, but we were at dinner the other day, we started such a random thing. We're at this nice dinner in Los Angeles and something happened where we all got on our phones to find the logins to our photo bucket account. And we were all looking up. It was me, if he had been Gavin very

to the coast. Yes, such a funny site. Like we used to live in the moment. All these millennials always on their phone. It's like, well, I'm just trying to get into one password. Millennials going back like and looking at the time capsule that has become our photo buckets. There was a screenshot you showed me that was just speaking to your American psychopath. It was you telling either. I don't know if it was a group chat or another friend.

Oh, you were like, you were like, fellas, we've got to be the nice guys because when those bad boys break their hearts, we'll be there to kiss their fall. And I need you to understand this is something I screen shot it and then shared publicly because I thought there's like, oh, no, you also you were also like, we get this label. Nice guy. Yeah, you've been nice guys. And it's like, we get this label, nice guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You put nice guys in quotes. And it's like, I'm not wearing a cape. I'm just here to save you. Yeah, I'm just here to save you. Right, right, right. Of course. When the world beats you down, I'm here to fix you back up. But I think that's an important thing because who does this stuff speak to?

And I think for as much as people like to make fun of women on TikTok who are doing like aesthetic get ready with me's or like look at my perfect kitchen, I made everything from scratch and everything's beige or whatever. Like this is like boy that. Yeah. Oh, 100% I think this is all linked into

the death of celebrity, right? Where like before, like I was thinking, it was like a tweet thread I had way back when, when everyone was losing their mind over, it was that one game show where people had to guess people and it was just a picture. And this black woman didn't know who Sabrina Carpenter was. And they were like, how could you not know?

And I was like, it's because like, Sabrina Carpenter is famous to you, but like the love, like fame is not the same. People do not know how personalized to them their feed is. Yeah, where back in the day- Which could be happening to us right now. People are gonna be watching this going, what the fuck are you guys talking about?

Yeah, but it's like, it really has changed where back in the day, if you had a pop star, that pop star popped in on TGIF Fridays, was in all the sitcoms everyone was watching. Yeah. Would do late night spots. Like there was no way to miss a pop star because they were injected. You couldn't miss Elvis.

Yeah, they were injected in all forms of media. And now we have this very personalized sense of media. You know, movie theaters are still struggling to bounce back from the pandemic because there are so many people who would rather wait to stream it or wait to just do things at home and see exactly what they want to see. But we're consuming traditional entertainment media, like that cavity is filled with just scrolling at other.

Exactly. There is a set amount of time in the day. And even the idea that everyone is watching Netflix is a misnomer based on like an older relationship with media. I getting me to watch any streaming platform episode of anything is like pulling teeth. I will maybe do that. If there's a zeitgeist show like severance, it's like has to be severance. It's the only thing I've watched in Apple TV.

But if you even think of that, like severance, the biggest thing, but also Yellow Jackets, which was another big thing, kind of came and went because Severance kind of took hold. And I need to watch Yellow Jackets because people were recommending that to me way back when. And now Severance is over and I have a mystery box filled, hold on, mystery box shaped hole in my heart that I need to fill.

Oh, in your heart, good. But you know, and that is all through like memes and I think when people like, I've seen so many like, okay, I'll watch Severance because it's in the like, cultural zeitgeist on these like, many communities online. So back in the day you had, you know, these taste makers that were pop stars or these families. We make fun of the Kardashians,

but they were the tastemakers for a lot of women everywhere where it's like, that's the life I wanna achieve, that's how I wanna look. Paris Hilton was the same way. It's like they wouldn't have a business if they couldn't get an audience that wanted to be like them. And like now, I was at the gym earlier

and I was watching Roadhouse and I was like, Patrick Swayze doing fucking Tai Chi in the forest. I was like, oh, this statement I'm making hit me at that moment where it's like, oh, this is why we have these Ashton hauls because there isn't the macho guy who everyone looks to anymore. It is so dispersed. Like I'm looking at Patrick Swayze.

I was like, how could anyone think someone like Elon Musk or anyone in that camp is cool? When I'm looking at Patrick Swayze shirtless doing Tai Chi, I was like, Oh, I get why people were like, that's my vibe now. That's who I'm going to be. There's something very, I do think also this guy, Ash Ashton Hall. Yeah. There's something very, I do think also this guy Ashton Hall, he is kind of broaching an aesthetic that I think has become appealing and for a very specific period of time,

a very specific male loneliness epidemic because Ashton Hall, and I hate to indulge in terms like this, is sigma coded. And the identifying a vision of the sigma is that you may be, and I hate to indulge in terms like this, is sigma coded. And the identifying vision of the sigma is that you may be... You're a lone wolf. You walk your own path. Maybe that's because you just don't connect with other people for whatever reason.

And the next step should be like investigating as to why and how much of that is addressable. But there's something like this aching silence is connecting with people in a way that like enthusiastic and a gauge just that exists. It feels unachievable. Like I can't do that in the woods. I don't go outside, but I can do music. Exactly. Like it is funny because it's like,

there are so many ways that offer this like actual type of like control and Zen. There are martial arts, there are so many ways that offer this like actual type of like control in Zen. There are martial arts, there are many hobbies, there are many things you can do to achieve what is being pretended to be achieved in this, but it's like, you know, foe millionaire aesthetic. And this is the only thing that yeah, it's the aesthetic it's looking and like everyone's like, yeah, I can do that. But like in actuality, that man does not look like that because he's doing pushups and then

squatting and drinking. Because he has twerk time at 420 AM. This man hasn't even looked at bread for years. This man is putting in like hours at the gym. It is like, it is painful to look that cut in buff. He's really removing a face mask and monologuing to himself. Exactly, you know, and he's rubbing banana peels on his face. Motherfucker, there are real good skincare routines.

How you gonna ignore my bitch Kate Somerville and you gonna put bananas on your face? There are products, baby. Maraud got your fucking back. There are products, baby. Murad got your fucking back. The whole Korean companies that will keep you looking good and you in there rubbing banana peels. So it would be great if he does that with his entire breakfast. He rubs loose wet granola into his eyes to like really loosen the burp. I don't want to put the cart too far before the horse here. I think there's a lot that I want to say.

There's a lot of Ashton Hall and how he fits into kind of some of the Manosphere stuff, some of the Grindset dudes, some of the things that are kind of our bread and butter overlap in ways I wasn't expecting, but also in ways that I was expecting. So, the first thing I'll mention is that Ashton Hall is his name, but most people do not know his name,

which is kind of crazy because he also has nine million followers on Instagram, and has had a big Instagram for a long time, and I'd still never seen this man before in my life. The other thing- He doesn't really need a name. Exactly, the other thing is that the thing that went viral and made this a viral moment was on X the everything app on a

Where he's being free booted by a men's inspiration style Like slop account like let's watch the original. Let's watch the post that started us all so that we can get deeper into yeah I like what you're tapping into yes. Yeah tips for men fashion essentials luxury By the way if you look at the other post on this Twitter account. It's like yeah, that's what I'm gonna say Well, it's cost you Really I really want it. You know it's so funny that we started on I really want to you know, it's so funny that we started on the idea of goofing on this that I think we're gonna

Crack something that I really want to talk about now and because it all loops into Everything that led to this past election. Everyone was talking about masculinity and how it's and and and how there's no no Space on the left for men to be masculine. And I think there is some truth in that, but I think that is because we need to like deconstruct what masculinity is. And we'll get into that. I want to break down some certain things. So if you don't mind,

I'm gonna ask you to pause at certain points. But first, before we even get started, everyone's asking about the tape on the mouse. It's the brand literally called Hostage Tape. So that is for mouth breathers in your sleep. You cover your mouth to force yourself to breathe out of your nose. I could probably-

He's also wearing a nose strip, I believe. He's also wearing a nose strip to open up the airway. So right off rip, this nigga has sleep apnea. Yeah, that's romantic for his new business, him removing the machine. He's doing all this like super like like he this man needs a CPAP machine and he's talking trend the mouth taping is if they did a CPAP machine that had like Jared Leto's Joker then maybe he can have that but he can have that, but he's not allowed to. Yeah, and he has like sleep scrawled in chalk across the mouth.

The other thing, so I will say as a sleep apnea have or as also a deviated septum have or and a mouth breather in my entire life up until last year when I got deviated septum surgery. Sorry, Travis just didn't line surgery, that was just me breathing with both nostrils, not the flex. But can we cut out when he just did that rail of cocaine, the rail of invisible cocaine. So I started getting as a sleep apnea have or my Instagram algorithm got wise to it and started advertising to me hostage tape.

And what I would like to say is if I were to put hostage tape on my mouth, I would die in my sleep. I couldn't breathe through my nose. Yeah. See, that's my big fear. Fix your mileage may vary. Right. Yeah.

I think that there's value to breathing through your nose. Obviously, that's why CPAP machines and things exist. But I don't know the science on specifically this product, but this has become a big trend in this space. And that's what he's engaging in. So it's almost like a dog whistle of like, I'm giving you a shortcut to know the kind of guy. Yeah, then I'm doing everything I can to sleep well

But not in a gay way with a CPAP machine Sucking on the hog of a Robot machine I will say Good sleep is an important part to like working out and getting strong. I think that's one that's often skipped right next to nutrition. So I think he's skipping it right now but we can do I know but also these huge chocolate chip nipples like I like I'm surprised out of all the things we've talked about in this video we've not mentioned his nipples once. Between that and the chicken bag I'm gonna have to go with the double-chunk chocolate nipples. Yeah I that and the chicken bag, I'm gonna have to go with the double chunk chocolate nipples.

Yeah. I don't know if this is gonna ruin your YouTube video, but I'm never gonna mention a man's nipples without revealing mine. I think we're deep enough into the video that it doesn't matter. I'm not gonna reveal my nipples, but I would say I have similarly sized nipples.

Yeah. And so I won't shame. Yeah. I won't name and shame. I'm not shaming because I used to have very very thick boy nipples and then like now they've kind of, and it is colder in here. It is colder in here. We do that for the nipple feel.

Yeah. Yeah. For a good nipple feel. I'm going with the jacket because it is piercing my shirt. Right. Well, you have, you have needle tips. That is I did replace them for aesthetic. Yeah.

All right. We can, we can move on to the frame one of the video for the audio listeners. It is exactly what you're thinking. Yeah. Whatever your guess is. It's just an extremely Jack man wearing hilarious tape over his face. Yeah. Maybe purple light. Yeah. Purple light. Oh yeah. And actually lists with chain as we go through this video. Another thing people keep bitching that is great on the other side of it is like, yes, this man is setting up cameras for each one of this shot. He went to go turn on his LEDs to get bisexual lighting on him, which, you know, if he found out that's

what it was called, we would see a different color. I will say we, there has been a shift in the, in the world because when I was younger, I'm sure you remember this, remember the term metrosexual? If you were a guy who took care of yourself, even the original run of like Queer Eye, I feel like that word came up. I don't know if it did, but that was the zeitgeist.

I think so, yeah, I think that's what it was. It was like, oh, I don't want to be a man It's not masculine to take too much care of yourself. Oh, yeah, try brushing your teeth dude freaking Metrosexual talked about it with with Josh last week right yeah The floor is trying and it doesn't yeah It really is like a holdover where we forget the time that romance was really just is like a holdover where we forget the time that romance was really just financial security for women and so men didn't have to try. Well, he's kind of going back to that a little bit.

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Rips off the tape Right here, so this already was the first time I was like what the fuck is happening like this is right out the gate Saratoga spring water to wash your mouth out instead of just using the sink water. You're spitting it out. If you're not spitting it out, you shouldn't be swallowing it because you're not supposed to swallow teeth for less than one minute. He brushes teeth for two minutes. I counted. Okay. And also like allegedly assuming this is a correct also worth noted other top chef fan. I've only been aware of Saratoga like the sparkling if he walked

in with this. So yeah, I will have shirtless. We bagged him to put a shirt on. So sure. So he took the cap off the bottle and started pouring it down his chest. We said if we have to record, so we scooped it back up, put it in here.

I got dropped by drop. But when I went to buy this as a bit, I wanted to. So, so we scooped it back up, put it in here, drop by drop. But, uh, when I went to buy this as a bit, I wanted to buy like a bigger pack and I was going to like walk in carrying that and we can, we can put the, uh, the photo you set me up. Yeah, there it's completely sold out. All of Saratoga still water is, is, which is funny because then you know, it's just specifically because of him, because this is what top chef pushes is the sparkling. So watching this, not knowing they had a still

water, I was losing my fucking mind. Cause I thought he was watching his mouth with a sparkly water. I thought that too. And I had to double check. Yeah. So it does feel like one of the habits I've certainly fallen into and like tried to fight as I've gotten older but is still a dangerous instinct because of the the material reality that we live in is Solving by consuming right is like well, okay Clearly this guy's working out a lot and has strong nutrition and he's claiming to have this routine I could do all of that. But what can I do right now by spending money? I can get a Yeti Tumbler now I'm making progress in my life. It's so funny because I have a 50-50

Stance on that right where like if someone's like if he I'm trying to get into the gym I'm trying to get excited about it I want to get it my big thing is like buy something you'll be excited to bring to the gym whether it's like New gym gear whether it's like a new like like a Fitbit or something that like, you're like, reminds you why you purchased it, but it is, yeah, there's a trap you can fall into where you purchase something and then your brain's like, well, we did the thing and you don't, and it just kind of falls by the wayside, especially for ADHD folks. I bought this whoop to like work out more and then because it has a thing where you can

make a community of friends and then it gives you like ranking so like it kept me so Invested for so long and then the moment my friends stopped being competitive. I fell off and I was like, oh I Needed the competitive that was really fit bit. Yeah, it like, so maybe we need to get you on the whoop because I need rivals. I need a Gary-o. It is very, yeah. It's always tempting to like, I mean, the truth is,

is that a lot of people aren't taking care of themselves because they are understandably depressed or they don't understand how to get the momentum going on something and tricking them into thinking it's buying tape is not, yes, it will help with your nose, but it's not the thing that's in the way. Yes.

And more of the Not It's Friends community. I wanna, just for the listener, clarify the Top Chef thing. If you don't know, if you don't watch Top Chef, they have been pushing Saratoga Springwater for years. I never saw it in the wild, never tried it, like never bought it. Never used it to wash about though. Never used it to wash my mouth out. But I don't think they were making it appealing for consumers the way this guy is. It's like it will make you him. And I know what you're thinking. No, he's not sponsored. And yes, that's crazy.

Yeah, it is like it is so wild. How much also just kind of looking at these cents right here. That's a lot because I am I am such a slut for cents. I can see that Tom Ford, that red one. I think that's Tom Ford. I believe that is going to be a Lalo behind on the left most side right there. He gives it a little spin to choose. Oh, definitely. And I'm sure all of his sensor completely

ass. These are like basic bitch ass sense. Like if you, if you want to smell like me, I'm Lalo Tonka and I fuck with patchouli and then I layer it with jazz club by Mason Margiela or coffee, coffee break. Theratoga in the eyes. Yeah. Josh wine in the ass. Yes. It's just so funny because I used to think this a lot where it's, you know, you can buy

like the, the like things that you know, are like cool and expensive, but you can't buy taste. And like, I look, I'm not going to pat myself on the back, but I am often told I smell good. So I think yourself and learn something, but you can't buy the immediately instinctually learn something by buying the right thing. It's you got to smell bad. Yeah. Let's play a little bit more. I want to get deeper into this because we because I don't he has multiple morning routines and everyone's seen this one. Yes.

And I want to look at some. So I won't be so because we're only seven minutes. Yeah, we're skilled with this. Oh, I just recorded three hours on. Just. This is an absolute... This is... Sorry, just can you run back the push-ups and how squeaky they are?

Because he's doing the breaths with them. Sounds like he's inflating. In the torque time. There are action films with fewer cuts than just happened there. And less funny cuts. He has perfect comic timing on all of these. And since you've known the timing, what is the timing he's spent on this workout? Like five minutes.

Absolutely. So 17 minutes from walking into this, twerk time lasts roughly a minute. Sad walk lasts three minutes. He does drink the Saratoga water during twerk time. And then there's a few times where he closes his eyes, I think to like do breath work, but it's like he's sleepy because he's up before. Yeah, he's trying to do like once again, it's like like the, the, the, the aesthetic of it without doing it because you're talking about working out and then meditating. And I can't think of a worse place to meditate than on a balcony with a loud

city outside shirtless in slacks. Standing up. Yes. The same lighting as a morgue. I was going to say, uh, pointing out the, the, how he captured these shots. He also brought the purple light with him from the bathroom. So you could see like, it is just this harsh light you could look at where his shadow is cast to see that he just set up his like Big ass purple light in the corner

Well, what's usually would be admirable about a lifestyle this regulated is the fact that it like, you know in real life things like exercising eating living regularly sleeping sex all of these things that are presented in as clinical a way as possible in media, because that's what seems the best for some reason. The thing that are like human about those things is how messy and silly they are. For him to kind of skip the like exhaustion point of his workout just makes it look like a bad workout. It doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't acknowledge the intensity of it.

Yeah. And when he looks like that, that is not from pushups. I have to. Yeah. I think that's important to say very squeaky. He's also been an athlete his whole life. Yeah. Yeah. Which let's like, yeah, I know what he's doing. He's doing like strength training for real, for real. Like this is, and it's, and it's impressive. Oh yeah. It's the false. It's the liver King of it all where it's like, I get this way by eating raw meat only. And that's like your capping. Yeah. I woke up so early. I should liver King shows more of his work. Yeah. So I just need to just, I have to point out he meditated over the book question, which I think is a Bible. I from a different video. He's from a different video. I've seen a different angle and I do think it's a Bible,

which means, okay, so we can assume second book is journal. We can, we can assume that he's praying and which I think he's praying because then he w he takes a little journal and then he watches a sermon. Oh, I'm on screen max on his, uh, sorry, you can just play it. You'll see what I mean. Can we run back just to get the timing of the sermon? Because yeah, he watched it for like roughly like 30 minutes. Okay. Okay. That's a real life while I watch this too long. Now lot. You dream about him last night. I dry dreamed a whole morning routine actually from when it was 3 52 AM and I was asleep. I was inside of my mind palace having this morning routine kind of like when Goku shadow boxes. Oh, can I just say something really quick about the ice emptying the ice into the bowl? Yes, so I went to his Instagram and this shot of his now if you just it that frame

is His thumbnail for like six morning routines And if you go to his Instagram and look at the the reels tab it like is six of those in I glanced at it and thought I saw I was seeing something I wasn't supposed to see so yeah, you just see like how Brother oh a difference. It's like actually I thought you literally meant the same photo, but no no no He's like different, but then you can just see how deeply he's flexing while he pours. Yeah, I was like it's not that heavy of Back to the thing ice peen ice peeing pose. Yeah ice pee

These are good shorts my favorite compression compression socks, yeah, and then you got a hook stop You got to put on your work when you when you know if you when you go to the gym There's you put on your whoop you put on your seven thousand dollar Van Cleef bracelet. You put on your work. Now, if you go to the gym, you put on your whoop, you put on your $7,000 Van Cleef bracelet, you put on your Roli. Yeah, the whoop stays on because it tracks my sleep and stuff, there's nothing I hate more when I'm working out

than stuff on my wrist. Oh, like this is the only exception? Yeah, so like him putting that on, especially to what we know he's about to be doing, I can't think of worst things to be doing. I, I the only thing I can assume is as a automatic Rolex watch, have her is this is when he charges it up for the week because the motherfuckers

will like just, I am constantly setting watches, all my automatic watches. Also I'm again, I'm not the biggest weight room guy. But I feel like wearing a ring on a barbell or something. Yeah, I am so afraid of being de-gloved. Yeah, OK, OK, OK. Cool, because that seemed crazy to me. But he's not lifting weights. Because why would he doesn't do that?

That's not how he got his body. He just did his upper body. Yeah. He can just flex his muscles, whichever muscle he wants. He just can he can just flex his muscles whichever muscle he wants Yeah, how he works it out? Some ice Oh, yeah, my other favorite part, yeah. All right. So we've got to address it What is probably an editing error, but it's very funny is that from 736 to 740?

He's Alright so my favorite part about this so much has been said about that. My favorite part is how he's about to get in the water, get out of the water and then get into more water. He's going to switch to the jacuzzi. It's a very funny guy. Do you do it every time, dude. But also worth noting, he doesn't even have the jet streams going in the jacuzzi. Here goes. Also, we do need to go back to, can we go back to the banana eating scene? Uh, this, there was a whole joke made years ago on black Twitter about how you eat a banana around men to not appear gay and he does it. Does he do it? Ironically? Yeah, because people because it was like when you eat banana and he stops and he snaps the banana and he shakes it up.

Yeah, like it's like nuts and throws it in his right. Right. It's literally casual. Yeah, it's like a way to get banana all over your hands. Yeah, I know. You're not. It doesn't look like you're eating a penis. Yeah, it's not.

It's like the way to ignore the like deliberate genetic growth of the way that we've conditioned bananas for convenience. And it's like, yeah, but what if the no one here sees exactly. I do like the primal ness of it because I always think about how we genetically engineered bananas to not have seeds all over the place. Yeah, it's just fun just let us to put others. Let me see shout out to the Cavendish rest in peace Was the Cavendish the one that's like kind of really hard to get now? The green I can't remember but yeah, there are certain bananas

The original the original banana that was the biggest banana That candy is actually flavored candy flavored after I think is the Cavendish this would be another if I get it right It's a random Jarvis fact. Why is it in his brain? Okay? So that's the one that's current What was the banana that nearly went extinct? popular banana nearly goes extinct The grows me shame The Gros Michel. Gros Michel.

That's the name of one of the cars in Bellator. Anyway, shout out to American Interventionist, Banana Republic, all that jazz. Just shout out to... Banana's in pajamas. Shout out to South America and how America decimated and did all kinds of putting dictators in power.

I think it's bad, but yes, sure. If you like it. No, no, just shout out to it. Just, I want to just raise awareness. I mean, I like the contra game. Shout out to, shout out to history, America's, uh, IB history, HL, um, shout out Dr. Schmidt, uh, East side high school 2010. Um, that's my, that's my fucking dude. All right, let's go on. This episode of Sand Boys is sponsored by ZockDoc. Jordan, question for you. When was the last time you needed to go to the doctor, but then you pushed it off because you were like, I'll just do it tomorrow. But then tomorrow never came.

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He does the eyes again. Doing the eyes again is crazy. It's reloading. Also, we're going to watch more of the morning routines. So I won't say the remixes he does on the ice bowl. We'll just get to that later. Oh, and there's the light, by the way. Oh, yeah, we see it right there.

That's a purple light. this motherfucker loves purple light. Yeah It's a royal color, so that's how I remind myself of the king. Yeah, you know we used to be Man I can't make those jokes with you cuz we're it just becomes you know cuz Cuz the monarchy I don't actually know what I'm saying. Oh, the monarchy. You love you. I forgot about him. I need to get back to the palace. Yeah, back to the palace is definitely a video.

I was telling Jarvis this yesterday, but classic Hollywood actress Joan Crawford was famous for her morning routine was putting ice on her face because she claimed it closes your pores. I don't know if that's true but don't your pores like need to be open to an extent? Well you having them open can allow like bacteria and stuff which a lot gets break out but another way you can close your pores is just alcohol or any other skincare thing that does that for you or protects it. Banana.

Yeah. Rub an apple core on your face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Still a bunch of compost all over your body. You rub that stuff that Tony Stark put on his face in Tropic Thunder. Nanomachines. Blacks, black face.

Shoot, blag. Okay, if you do any ice related. How do you feel about, because I know there's merits to it and stuff, but I, I'm scared. So cryotherapy I've done like, so, you know, I've done, which I'm gonna get into. I've done like a lot of videos back when I was at Buzzfeed. That was a lot of like, this is some fitness stuff. So like a lot of the stuff I tried, cryotherapy, yeah. Healthful recovery, it's great, it's cold as shit.

And I'm sure there are benefits to dunking your face in ice. I think it's similar to like an ice bath. Yeah. I don't think it's like primarily necessary. In my headcanon, he's just trying to wake himself up because he got up so early. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like this. Now I just go to bed.

I used to take cold showers in the morning when I, when we were still working like an office and it felt like I should optimize my lifestyle. Yeah. And I got really invested in it. I was proselytizing it around the country. You told me about it. It was just, it was just a rhythmic thing. Like it's a thing I did every day. That's why it felt good, I'm sure.

And also I was sleeping poorly. So I was just waking myself up. That adrenaline spike was done by the time I got to the office. But it was like, it was really very nice to have something that I could say was mine. I'm doing something. I'm drinking soda.

If this is hot and this is cold, when Jordan, you told me about cold showers, and I was like you know what? I'm gonna try this so I started hot and I go okay, okay, okay, okay lukewarm. I can do this I can do this No no no no You know what I mean when you run the cold shower, then you go yeah you like start not being able to breathe Yeah, you know a little bit. I wish I could do it my body's not built for I'm a little wimpy baby But I do do LeBron James million dollar a year body care routine that involves cryotherapy, but I just do it to podcast Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna show highlight reels of me holding a microphone for like 20 years straight.

Like, how does he do it? Nobody's doing it like him straight buckets for 20 years. He was a podcaster in the league when he was 18 years old and he's a podcaster at 40. How does he do it, dude? Yeah, not the best of all time though. Sorry. Well, there was a guy, Joe Rogan came in for a few good years. Yeah. So looking at it, bro, we gotta go ahead and get in at least 10,000. Good. Good.

Good. So in all of his, I've watched multiple of these, in all of his morning routines, he has a little segment of like a conversation and every time, it's so fucking funny to me. Because, so, in his later one, I'm gonna spoil it because it's a grown moment, he goes,

all right bro, we gotta get at least 20,000. Because he's like, guys, I'm escalating comedy. And then, but in the earlier ones, it's just like random things, and then I was like, who is he talking to? Is it time for me to reveal this? He just does coaching. He does what all of these fucking people do.

You book, you pay him a bunch of money. He talks to you on the phone about your business plan. Which for studs would have many thousands. And then guess what? He coaches coaches. So it's not a pyramid scheme. It's a multi level structured plan. He coaches coaches to coach other people.

And if they bring in their coaches, then maybe he gets a little bit off the top, but then they coach and then, you know, soon they'll be a coach with a bunch of coaches on my nose. And he's selling nothing. Like he's not because being a coach and never having to reveal what you do and what products you offer means that we know he's just making money from telling other people how to make money. Oh, yeah.

And so it's like the Andrew Tate thing where it's like you've just duped a bunch of people. Yeah, it really is because and it's through things like this where people were like, I want that. And it's like, we can, if we really wanted to, if we want to give ourselves another project, recreate everything in this video. By the end of the week, we would just find a high rise Airbnb, get a bunch of our friends. It's so easy to make it seem like we live this lifestyle.

I gotta say, those are the weakest strips of turkey bacon I've ever seen in my life. This is too symmetrical. That's creeping me out. Well, that's the base level. That is Genio's in there right there, which Genio's I'm not dissing on because they got me through some times.

But I will say, if we're trying to go with affluences or pretend you have a personal chef, they wouldn't make Jenny owes Turkey bacon for you. They would, they would probably make some type of Turkey breakfast that was made with like fresh poultry, but she's not just a personal chef. She is disembodied woman who does every job. So if ever I need hands to hand me something, she's on the case. Something ear to me about recording anyone in the same style. They do a parent from Charlie Brown.

I said it's a Sarah Bellum from fucking Power Book Girl. Yeah. Okay. Oh, I'm excited to get into some, on, on, on turned stones. I guess. Yeah Okay. Oh, I'm excited to get into some on on Turned stones, I guess not eating enough right so there's a few Like two meals for 9 a.m.. Well, I will watch well Let's see the plate night because that you bring up a good point that I want to bring up. Oh, yeah Okay, so we'll stop right there. So that's avocado toast. Uh, three, about three, was that three or four slices of turkey bacon? Yeah. And what I'm going to assume is about like four or five eggs. Um, that isn't enough. I, I, so I did

a Buzzfeed video where we had to eat as much as an NFL player who like broke it down. And mind you, this person was like D-line, I think. I think it was, what's his face? It was like a bigger dude. But even then, like you're definitely gonna want to eat way more than this. And if you're counting that, if I'm counting the banana, like by, and then this is eight, nine, nine 25.

So you're breaking out of breakfast, then you would've needed to eat way more than that. His background, as we know it, he was an athlete, he played in high school, college, he was like a defensive end or defensive tackle, and he never played in the NFL, but he was cut from a practice squad, I think. Yeah, yeah.

In 2010. Waking up too early. Yeah, in 2010, so that puts him somewhere in his 30s right now. Yeah And I will say he's definitely lost a lot of weight since then like I have a friend who like just recently, you know used to do practice squad stuff and he was like You know like half back and just huge so like looking at like him, I'm like, oh yeah, this is like a couple of years off. But even then I feel like for the maintenance of the muscles that I saw,

you're gonna need to eat way more than that. Yeah, we did an escape room with Johnny Stanton. That's who I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, motherfucker is gigantic. Yeah. And like, I mean, he looks great. By design.

I mean, but like, but like even just like to have the frame to put everything on. Yeah. I'm like, damn, bro's a shelf. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's alchemy. Like you are so cool to go from one place to another. Like almost like I'm seeing a shiny Pokemon where I'm like, damn, this is crazy. Like if I saw that allowed, I once I'm going to, I'm going to text him right now and be like, what would you eat for breakfast? And like your peak? Oh yeah, that'd be great. I like a little bit of egg whites and a tall glass of OJ. I went to, um, so let's give it a sound bad. I was once in VIP at a Drake concert. The year was 2015, 2016. It was when Kevin Durant had just signed with the Warriors. One of my former coworkers at Yelp was childhood friends with a photographer on OVO and he had a plus two for the VIP section. And he said to me and my friend Sean, you

guys are the only guys I know who like Drake. It was a different time. Strange things only just come out. So Millie Buffy Brown was not involved. Yeah, yeah. And so we went to the VIP area and they were serving Virginia Black, which was Drake's whiskey.

And there were actually two VIP sections. There was like real VIP and then there was like friends and family VIP and I went to the bathroom and then when I came back I saw the real VIP and I was like I'm gonna try to sneak into real VIP because I was just on some shit back then. And I was. This was back when we used to sneak into after party.

We used to sneak into after party. So I stood as people were getting checked wristbands I stood behind a very tall man, and I was like damn this guy's tall I'm like staring at like the small of his back as I'm just like I'm 6'1 by the way I was like stating the smallest back and I look up and it's Kevin Durant And I said he's 6'11 7 feet and I was like god damn He's tall and they did not let me in. But Seth Curry was there, Kevin Durant was there.

I walked, I looked at them from afar. So, and I just went back to my little booth and enjoyed music from an artist that I used to enjoy, who will not be named. I never said it was Drake. Yeah. So anyway, that's like, when you see athletes in person, it's crazy. Yeah.

But basically the bottom line is I don't know how many of them until you want to talk about, I'm just curious, like you have like a grand thesis on this, right? Well, yeah, just, I want to, I do want to watch like something else. Like let's, so, so first of all, I don't want to get too into it, but everyone's copycatting it. It's taken over. It's not funny anymore.

So we can look at a few examples of that. Maybe we start with Piers Morgan, the least funny person in the world. Yeah, he's that he's part of this. I love that he wouldn't even shell out the money for Saratoga. Yeah, this was crazy, bro. A blue flask into a they can't get it in whatever tomorrow land or wherever he lives. Oh, it's what happened to the mix.

There's such a pain. Also, it's taking too long. It's like this soundtrack. Yeah, because social media guy probably was like this like soundtrack. Yeah. Because it's social media guy probably was like, this will be funny. Trust me. Make sure it's really long. The song is not helping the PSA. Especially because like one of the main tenants of the video is that the editing and there's no music.

Famously no music. Oh. Oh. Piers Morgan is, um, he's kind of like the embodiment of when you, you hit a part of your elbow and just like, oh, yeah. Like, oh, every time he does something, I'm just like, oh, yeah. Um, but he's so smart. Dual lingo did it as well. We can look at that one. And I'm like, yeah, yeah. The thing is it's funny cause we were all enjoying this and it's good that it wasn't official marketing

But now that it is just heavily being used for market. This is cross-promotion Saratoga X Duolingo. Yeah Dual the guy did post this on their top. That's not the real bird there. But unfortunately Unfortunately on Elon Musk's Twitter, you could only ever find things by fucking Boost like booted content. Yeah, but you can never find the original account Honestly, is there any sound on the last one because it'd be funny if Duolingo duo thou Says the 10,000 line in Spanish. That would be funny Duolingo social team is great. They're doing their job, which I respect.

Yeah. And soon they will be replaced by AI as well. Okay. So yeah, this took over. It's like become super mainstream. Everyone's doing it. Mr. Beast did it. We don't have to look at it. It's kind of just not a joke, though. It's just the thing it. Mr. Beast did it. We don't have to look at it. Um, it's kind of just not a joke though It's just the thing again. Yeah, but it's you know, it's like it's because I get it is the fun of bike

Like the lot of like Africans like content creators have been doing it and it's been funny to see It's been there's a lot of guys with his exact build to doing it when you kind of create There's a lot of guys with his exact build to doing it when you're kind of great I would like to look now because I've watched this but I want to get your both of your takes on his Statement on people copying him. Oh, wow. I didn't know he made a oh, yeah, I've been in What does sound like you'll never. You're gonna have to get 10,000. I came here to address the nonsense. So many videos are being sent to me. Duplicates of my videos. This is for the creators that are sick and tired of their work being copied.

Listen to me well. You're either going to be a leader or a follower. And it's okay to be either one, but you have to choose. If you're going to be a leader, people are going to follow you. What is the issue? I realize that he dressed like an albanian loan shark This makes all of the sense make sense. Yeah, this is like those guys outside of clubbing. Yeah. Yeah He's dressed like jason sedake his character from what's up with that Yeah, like I mean it's working

Yeah, it's like what is going on? It also it's so funny to I think what's always interesting and this always happens when someone is like very hot and they get Something like this that they don't understand how the internet works crazy I'm gonna come out on this beef because they they kind of fell into fire who What is that one VFX YouTube channel? I think it's like What is that one VFX YouTube channel? I think it's like, starts with a C. Corridor Digital. Oh, who? Corridor Digital.

Yeah, Corridor. Dude, fuck them. Because I, it was when someone, like basically someone took their like video with the big dog thing, and then I used the Twitter kind of share feature where you're able to kind of just share the video onward. And it just links. It still links back at the bottom.

Yeah, it links back. But it linked back to the person who stole it, I guess. And I made my joke or whatever, and they were like, you stole this? And I was like, no, like, no, I'm not the one who stole this. I'm just sharing this video. And they were being like snooty with me, and I was like I was like Cardo is you don't know like you work in YouTube

You don't know how the fucking Twitter works where you're like yelling at me They also got a lot of hot water for their AI take Yeah, this is why I'm like very comfortable because I was like I knew like here's the thing is like if you're dumb and you're doing Good stuff or you're like, you know, you're just another creator then I'm not gonna say some shit But if you're dumb and then you use AI then I'm gonna completely talk about how I fucking think you're an idiot and you take Swings. Yeah. Yeah if you're taking swings, yeah in general like I like those guys like but I Don't definitely don't like how they handled the AI they completely seem to be missing how people

Why people were upset? AI is very interesting right now in the sense of how it's being pushed on us and By everything like the the new iPhone I got and they're like you want to make an emoji with AI like no every app, everything. Like I, um, had to like say no to something because they were like, oh, it'll be AI thing. I was like, no. Um, it was like, I like it's, and it's so funny because I, the things I could tell

you off camera, I know I know. I know it's the same. Yeah, I know. I was like, I was like, I, I shouldn't, but I did pass. Then like I do something like Vesper, which is like, it's like using it as a tool, but it's using artists and writers and the tool is just connecting the writing work to the assets that their artists made in the house so that you can build a game without knowing how to code. And then someone was like, I didn't think I'd see if you

pushing AI slob. And I was like, well, it isn't. Did you see the explanation in the video? Yeah. And it was also like, have you not seen me always talk? It'd be real weird. Space for discourse about the thing. We cannot get into it in this episode,

but there is nuance to artificial intelligence, and I think that people have very lazily in a lot of cases taken artificial intelligence to mean generative use of AI that was trained on stolen assets and resources and other people's creative work, that was trained on stolen assets and resources and other people's creative work and then regurgitating that for profit. And that is obviously bad, but there are so many other applications and other ways to even use

that exact same technology. If you take a photo of someone without their permission, that's bad. It doesn't mean the camera is bad. Yeah, and so it's, and I get, like, we are kind of, everyone is coming up to speed with this new technology. And so I, I'm personally, as like someone who studied AI in school, like, I want to have the grace for people

to try and understand that distinction, especially a lot of the people are like really activated, well-meaning younger people who just don't know. But it is sometimes very hard to like have all of that. You've only got so much. But this is just like what happens when we're, you're right, it's being forced on us, it's being used as a marketing term. Everywhere, it's unavoidable because

it's like another dot com boom. People are putting AI in their stock names. So people, unbeknown investors are thinking there's some sort of AI connection and that they should invest in it because yeah Just capitalism happens just and just to kind of bring it back to everything I think what you're talking about and kind of lamenting happens because there is no everyone wants just like a Like a blanket generalized thing. They don't want to have to do the work to investigate itself They don't want to have to parse things. Well, someone told me it's bad

So I'd like exactly and continue that and it's and and every like no one like nuances dead and it died on the internet On sites like Twitter where you had people say this person did this bad thing and they are bad because of it and Extreme take yes the most and we want the and they have to go away and they are bad because of it. And the extreme take is the most engaging. And they have to go away and they have to, like so much has the line been turned where it's like, they need to go away and get help. But no one has ever investigated what happens after that. No one, because they want to just do the easy thing.

And if you do anything bad, it's a scarlet letter that you're not allowed to actually live in this world. You're not allowed to make mistakes. And I think it's a scarlet letter that you're not allowed to actually live in this world again. You're not allowed to make mistakes in it. I think it's getting more pro-scient because some of the stuff that, you know, I might have been saying or doing before the internet and before saying it on the internet are just gone. And now we live in this age where it's stuck in there. This is all to say it's very easy to just kind of join a community or to join a cause or to do a blanket.

We're seeing it even with the like gamer gate 2.0 bullshit and the DI bullshit. And I think this is kind of my thing. Whereas the masculinity, I think a lot about that first video where you don't know what the fuck he does. He's just talking into a camera. And at first I'm like, why isn't he explaining it? But it's like, Oh no, it actually probably helps him. I don't think he's strategic in it. Just looking at him and listening to everything he just said, but like recording a video, like a cop with a punisher logo on the back

of that car suddenly. But like keeping it like blank in that way, it allows people to insert themselves into it and say, oh, I can do that. I can wake up at 3.30 PM and do this bullshit. And then I go to my job, whatever it is, sit at the desk, and I am ready, especially by 9.25. And it's because people are... We have dismantled masculinity in its former state. And you have a lot of prominent men just going and being like, people are killing masculinity

or people don't want masculinity and no one is like investigating what masculinity is. To them, masculinity is just power and success as a man. That is what it is. I think if you ask anyone what they think masculinity is, they won't have a real answer to you. But masculinity, as I have kind of taking it to mean with what most people kind of mean by it

and what most people want out of it, is to be a provider, to make women feel secure, to be able to lead a household, a family. And none of this bullshit does that. It's none of the bullshit anybody harping masculinity does. None of the bullshit that, you know, and I'm not even trying to dunk on him. I'm just like, truly, I truly believe this.

And as a parent myself, telling your son to hold the door open for women isn't masculinity because I know a lot of motherfuckers who hold the door open for women isn't masculinity because I know a lot of motherfuckers who hold the door open for women and cheat on their girlfriends, hold the door open on women and like go off and are shitty people because we're actively facing people who are looking for aesthetic instead of action. And that's the problem. Exactly. It's easier. The iconography is like, you're putting the responsibility on someone else to identify you that way,

as opposed to setting a bunch of principles for yourself and then living by them. You're allowed to present yourself as a trad mask while still kind of evading a lot of the criticism by being like, well, I barely said anything. You don't know what I believe in life. I could be holding that door open. And the reality is you're not going anywhere

where there are doors other than your house. Exactly. And also you, we have in our culture, just this whole energy of say it with your chest. And we got a lot of people not saying shit with their chest and these same people who say they believe in the trad mask are not holding them accountable. It's great. It's like grifting, like in a traditional, like a definitional sense. Yeah. And so no one is like calling anyone out. and that's like my big problem where it's like look you can say you're this Like like I this is my thing like back, you know back in the day when we were dealing with like, you know

Skinheads and like these weird fucked up races in our high schools that were like Drawing swastikas on the wall and like calling us the n-word and like getting in fights with black people like it's weird that I am now at the age where I have more respect for them because they're saying it out loud and they're standing on it. They're like, yeah, I am racist. And there's dog whistles everywhere. You have to like almost be able to see through the matrix in order to like know what someone truly believes. Like when I'm watching love is the new love is blind season and this dude is like saying the right thing, but you like have in the back of your head, like, I feel like I'm not getting the full story. And then, and then his partner who doesn't end up marrying him, spoiler, I guess I didn't spoil cause I didn't say who, but anyway, his partner who doesn't end up marrying him goes on a podcast and talks about all the stuff

that they, that you could have guessed about him if you could see through, but like none of that stuff ever made it to air or made it to the surface. Well, because we're like trying to like, once again, we're trying to, once again, we're trying to subvert nuance and critical thinking because you're sitting here walking, quacking, and flapping but going, I didn't say I was a duck.

And it was like, you know what I mean? Why would you assume I was a duck? He was like, because you're doing duck shit. So if you don't want to be called a duck, don't do duck shit. I was just grabbing my heart and wishing my heart out to you all. You know how you angrily, throwing all my love out to Austrians in 98.

Yeah. Like it's stupid shit like that. When like, I don't know how many times we've ever seen somebody go, Oh my God, you know, like, like you accidentally scratched with your middle finger. And even though you know, you were just scratching yourself, you know what it, that looks like. So you apologize for it and you go, that's what I wasn't. Like how the news over decades has just had a different term for black people, how it's like urban or like, you know, nowadays, nowadays woken DI a lot of times is just referring to fucking black people.

Yeah. And I'm not saying all the time. No black people. Yeah, that's all the time No, I'll say like I 99% of the time and you don't even know what DEI is Like if you say his DEI wife, yeah Exactly. Well, he was woke. I want to plug real quick The $15 tier of the patreon where we talk quite a bit about this because we watched a Jubilee video. Oh, we watched that Sam Cedar Jubilee video. That was a trim. Should be coming out soon, if not already out. And it's so wild in that video how people do not know what they're talking about when they say DEI. It feels like conversations, and I'm guilty of this this but I also don't engage I like don't act like I know what I don't know

But it feels like conversations between people who have only read the headline Here's the problem is like that necessarily wasn't always a problem like we're never going to know every fucking thing about everything and Now we feel like we have to because you're stuck debating people where it's like, well, if you don't believe it, disprove me. I was like, or how about you fucking stop saying it until you know what you're talking about. You know, like, like there's been this role reversal that we've accepted where it's like, no, you just shut the fuck up until you know what, because you can't, you can't go out and exclaim things. You can't go out

and make proclamations when you're not the educated one. It is not us to educate you to prove you wrong. So stop saying shit that you don't know the fucking shit. One of my biggest pet peeves is like when someone doesn't know about something. But I think it's just because I personally am so confidently. Yeah, being more confidently one of my biggest things, because I just I am so the opposite because I'm so scared of being wrong. And that's a part of my biggest things, because I am so the opposite, because I'm so scared of being wrong, and that's part of my mental illness,

but still, there is also a lack of, one, the concept of theory of knowledge, how do we know what we know, but then also media literacy in terms of identifying sources, in terms of identifying sources, being able to judge the bias of a publication, being able to look at an article that says something, but then look at who funds that publication and say, oh, well, what are the biases

that are baked in by the systems at play? You know, like of course this of course the Washington Post is who's now owned by billionaire Jeff Bezos is gonna have Even though they try to remain independent. We have seen we saw this last election that he can step in and override their journalistic independence and so like that in and override their journalistic independence. And so like that makes it feel that at the end of the day, despite any individual journalist here being well regarded or being good at their craft,

the organization is compromised in that way. And it can't be relied upon for certain things. Or if it is, you have to look at a lot of things in concert. And what I think we see happening is a lot of like, there is always going to be, oh, the other thing that pisses me off, or pisses me off is maybe the wrong term, upsetting to me is-

Tickles your biscuits. Opposite of that. Okay. The fact that data is treated as truth and objective, when in reality, it is so easy to manipulate data that data is treated as truth and objective, when in reality it is so easy to manipulate data to reveal whatever your goal is. I think especially like crime data. Like anytime someone talks about crime data

and try and use it as an in all be all, I just always stop. I was like, well, who's gathering that data? Who's gathering? And sometimes they don't get in and goes, well, tell me this. If you are a racist police force and you are primarily arresting black and brown people for this and for shit that you would normally let your white citizens get off with a warning, wouldn't that change the numbers? Yeah. And then ever that's when everyone talks, turns into a saint. Well,

it's like, well then, well then you should just be following the rules. Like, yeah, it's funny. You think that when other people do it, but let's you fucking get pulled over for a ticket. And then all of a sudden the rules don't need to be followed that bad or this crazy. Cause like I've, I saw the story of, um, a guy who's, who's recently got married. They had their honeymoon in like Peru and he married, I think someone from Peru, and they came back to the States and then they were like detained by, the wife

was detained by ICE. And then the husband was like, I don't regret my vote for Trump. And I'm like, okay. Because at this point it's not even like, it's so funny because people have just fully kind of separated from their humanity for the sake of being right. Because he knows that that's the sound bite that they want that like, Oh, maybe I shouldn't. He knows he, I think that's a good way of putting it. Oh, a hundred percent. Because at this point I'm like, I think one of the biggest problems here is that we kind of create these versions of people opposed to us as if they're like heartless enemies and it's more just ignorant and like stubborn people. And I've seen it on all aspects of the spectrum, political spectrum. I'm super far left. So

a lot of times I'm looking at people who like consider themselves liberal. And it's funny when that, you know, energy stops and who it stops for and when it stops, but we don't have to get into that. But you know, I think it is just this lack of empathy completely and this like need to win. We've turned politics into sports. And like, I think that there are, there's a world in which you can, like, if we can break down from the sport of it all, we all across the board can be better. It's, I do wanna get back to this guy, but I wanna agree and say the team sports thing

is especially crazy right now because, like I don't think anyone here is a huge Joe Biden fan. I don't know if a huge Joe Biden fan really exists. Joe Biden won the hope. He has if a huge Joe Biden fan really exists. Joe Biden, one would hope. He has pretty privilege, but otherwise I'm not. Yeah, but like what you see happen online is if two people disagree, then they'll just immediately go to,

that's why your guy lost. And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, this isn't my guy. We're actually on the same page on that one. That's not my guy. It's like, in fact, I fear that a lot of the things that I care about aren't represented at the highest offices of government. I think a lot of comfort comes from, because ultimately comfort is the thing that everyone's

seeking. It's like the baseline, it's a hierarchy of needs wise, those all exist to give you comfort. Not happiness and fulfillment. Right. There's apparently a caravan of immigrants at the border and I need a big strong man to stop it. And that'll make me feel comfortable because America is being taken over. I've been told that America is being taken over.

But the reason that like mechanisms like that, like specific objectives are being invented is because if you have something objectively clear, then you can create a solution that objectively resolves it. And that's a very appealing idea. It's I'm sure very appealing. If you can, if you have no principles, it's probably very nice to lean in and say, actually there is no institutional racism and I don't have to think about,

learn or be worried about that anymore. Here's this, and I promise this is gonna make its way back to what we're talking about. The, what I've kind of come to terms with recently is that America has this faux individualism, like everyone, like we're, we're the land of the free and everyone's so individualistic and it's really just selfishness because the actual work of being in commodified selfishness. Yeah.

Yeah. Uh, the actual work of being an individual is so much harder for people. People would rather like follow this guy. Like people say they want masculinity, but then they'll follow this like, you know, guy who like is just running a pyramid scheme because his life looks interesting than to go out and find the things that will fulfill you in the ways that like doing any of these things will. What makes him interesting? It's literally, I'm sorry Ashton Hall, that he has big muscles. Yes! He has big pretty muscles. It's like an appeal to authority where the authority is muscle. Well, that's why I keep coming back to masculinity.

Because at its core, people, because muscles is just the symbol of a protector, the symbol of security. I'll follow the man who has the biggest stick. But you have these same guys who are following this guy who looks like he has the symbol of muscles and security, and you have women telling you, here are the things that make me feel secure, and you're like, well, that's gay. Wait, no, that's not what you like.

That's smash learning. That is your goal is to try, if you really are trying to be tradmasque, your whole goal in existence is to protect women and to create a household to keep them protected. But you don't wanna do that shit. You just wanna be a bum who has someone who sucks your dick sometimes.

And your dick game is not good enough for that. Because I know some bums who get their dick sucked. That other stuff is, what's so funny. And that's if you wanna engage in that trad ideology, which is like also it's valid to not participate in that. And I think that society treats things in such discrete buckets that it's like boy, blue shirt, girl, pink shirt, and a boy strong protect a girl home home, make, you know, it is just just it ultimately is only in service of That guy liking you it is never in service of the people telling you that's not what they want and you're correcting them

It is only in service of other guys being like we're men right yeah We all don't feel scared I joined a special boys club for the boys to remind me that I'm one of the boys wearing plaid shirt good I joined a special boys club for the boys to remind me that I'm one of the boys. I'm wearing plaid shirt. Good. Masculinity as they are selling it is gay as shit. Because their ideal masculinity is for the approval of men. And I'm going to tell you, I don't give a fuck about men. I want all the witchy women,

they's and them's and fem's that's who's approval I'm looking for. You're also looking for your own approval, right? Cause you're like, you're not big and strong because you think it'll make you attractive to women. Yes, of course. You know, I think, you know, jokes aside, yeah, I think that's why a lot of these people have lost their ways because they're not on a journey of self-assurance. They're on a journey of approval of somebody who will never give it to you. Even if you sign up for this guy's weird ass fucking coaching

shit, he's never going to approve of you because if he approves you, then you don't have to pay him anymore. And this isn't my joke to make. And that's a great point. By the way, this isn't my joke to make. But Jaboukie, can we go to Jaboukie's Twitter? Jaboukie quote tweeted this. And I do want to finish this clip because I want you guys to tell me what the hell he's saying Jaboukie tweeted there's some sugar in his

Which is you know, shout out shout out Jaboukie shout out to shout out my twin yeah Shout out, shout out Jaboukie, shout out my twin. This guy's kinda my twin. True, true, yeah. The last thing I'll say is that one thing about our show that is important to me is that we tried to retain that empathy and I think that there's a lot of people who, I don't know, and I actually don't want to hear about it in the comments, but I would like to think that there's a lot of people who, I don't know, and I actually don't wanna hear about it in the comments.

But I would like to think that there are people who can disagree with us, who because we're trying to focus on the fundamentals and not like political teams, we can have our opinions, but also kind of focus on what are the systems, who is harmed by the systems, who has benefited by the systems, and like what is just, like whether or not capitalism is good,

which like I think capitalism has a wealth of problems, but it is a system that dominates our world, and so like acknowledging that isn't political. You know what I mean? Or actually acknowledging that is political, and that's okay because you can't avoid politics. Being political is a part of, like when, actually shout out Rusty Buckets,

NBA YouTuber I watched, they talked about Jackie Robinson being removed in the sweep that the White House did of all their DEI biography pages. And then people, it was like, oh, it was done by mistake, but the URL was like DEI Jackie Robinson or whatever. And then they walked it back, and there's discourse around this,

and it's like, well, I just don't wanna worry about, there's these people who don't wanna see race and stuff, and it's like, it is not, you have to. Like, Jackie Robinson's entire, he broke racial barriers for, he was protested against. Was there never racism? Right, that's the thing. It's like when you think it, like if you,

if you're one of those people, you have to acknowledge people who existed in this, if you exist in the world where racism is over, but racism existed, you also have to examine that there had to have been a crossover when that happened. And then if you acknowledge that crossover, you have to under, there had to have been a crossover when that happened. And then if you acknowledge that crossover, you have to acknowledge that it is not a clean break where we said, okay, that's the bows tied around it,

all racism is done now, because we've integrated schools and professional sports. And so to try to treat something like Jackie Robinson, who's like whole deal was in like, like not only being good at baseball, but like being a black player and what that meant for the sport. Like, come on, like you can't not like.

Well, also like the thing that just kind of negates their whole argument is if that's the case, then you should still be mad that it was pulled from the site. You know, it's like there's scrubbing it of that history and just honoring this soldier who also happened to play baseball or there's completely deleting the site. And that's why it's like, no, your argument never makes sense because whether if it's just there, you're already mad. So you need to invest in that. That is bothering me. Yeah.

I fear it was a teenager with almost a full high school education and part of a college one that didn't really know who Jackie Robinson was. That is my fear. That is unfortunately my fear. They tried to put out a PDF and said deleted a historical document about an extremely important thing in history. Yeah, yeah, no, just upload all of these social security records to a PDF generator file. My PDF.viz. I feel like also, what's the point of doing that without just being like we're erasing

history? Because that's at its base level, it's just history. This is a fact. This is a truth. It's just a fact. It's just a thing that happened. If it was very bad at baseball, it wouldn't even matter. This wasn't a baseball oriented discussion. It's like the Little Rock Nine.

That was the girls that were first integrated. Girls and boys that were, I'm thinking of the photo. The photo of the little girl. But those were the kids in Little Rock, Arkansas who were in, like they literally had to be Escorted. Escorted into school because people were protesting against them. Like this history, it's a part of our DNA.

Like. We're done now, we're done. I'm just, I don't, it's like, it's not, it's so weird. It's like, I don't know what to tell you. This is just a thing Yeah, why deny that it happened? For nefarious reason you know that's why you know reminds me of all those things I don't know why we have to pay with what our grandfather says is like well because you're still protecting them That's why if you weren't protecting them if you were calling it out

Then no one would think you have to pay but the fact that you're protecting them because If you were calling it out, then no one would think you have to pay. But the fact that you're protecting them because a, you know, you're probably still benefiting from them in some way is why you must be stopped. Yeah. It's generational wealth. Yeah. You're, you're benefiting because you are benefiting from what they did have. If that's something you're completely against, then you certainly can't support the idea of debt, but like medical debt, you got to pick one where you know, you should like, there are people who love, medical debt, you gotta pick one. Yeah, you know, you should, like, there are people who love, like, they love being able to hide the history, you know, because then it upholds, you know, a lot of stuff. Like, for example, where it's like, well, you know, black people, they just haven't tried enough. And then Watchmen, an HBO show, taught everyone about the Tulsa riots. And they're like, oh,

what? It's like, yeah, dude, yeah, every time black people in the history of this country has done what you said to do because we are good at what we do, you have literally physically stopped it. So no, it isn't pulling us up, it's you getting the fuck out the way and changing the systemic things you are creating to hold us back.

And it's like this, the perception, and we will get back to it, but like the perception and all of these sort of things about black people being stupid and all of the ways in like, you know, even things like little Tyrone-esque jokes, like at black people's expense, all come back to the fact that slaves were like limited in what education they were allowed to have for generations.

And they were, what's it fucking called, slaves. It's just like so crazy to me that like you, it's like when things like affirmative action come up, it's like, ah, it's just, these conversations are nuanced. But the thing I'll say and that I'll leave it with is like, don't care if you disagree, just happy you're listening. And hopefully we continue to,

we're, we, we acknowledge our biases, but we also, or just try to be, we are who we are. And hopefully we can lay out rational arguments and conversations. Or just try to be we are who we are and hopefully we can lay out rational arguments and conversations and I just think there's just this thing where it's like we really want to reach like young men Oh, yeah, and I think that and and I there's a fear that I have about Coming off too abrasive and well in and then I also understand the response that it's like well Do you don't have to coddle no no no no no no you know what I mean? Yes. No. No, I'm gonna like renege that. Oh, yeah

There's something that I'm walking away from with everything that has happened We have cultivated a culture and I and like from the start of it when it was like he ha ha jokes but as a culture we've cultivated a space in which we are, we did turn our backs on young men. Yeah, I agree with that. Like when I go on Twitter and you see people making fun of like the young men on TikTok where it's like, no one cares about us. And someone retweets it and is like, yeah, because y'all all should die.

And it gets a bunch of retweets. It's like, well, at that point, it's like, you can say you're ha ha making a joke, but that's no different than when they say the same racist, sexist bullshit and say it's a joke. And I understand why the person says that. Oh yeah. But it doesn't mean that it doesn't have an effect on

the perception of young men who have limited things that they've perceived from the limited time they've been on this planet. As the terribly polyamorous man here, who also grew up black, I can be the first to say. You weren't transracial. Because of the shit that you dealt with, doesn't mean that you get to remove your empathy

and cause harm to other people. And that causes harm, because when some young dork who, you know, I'm calling the person dork in this scenario, whatever, but you know, dork complimentary, logs on to a social media site and sees all these people hee-hee-hawing about men's suicide rates. Like what do you expect them to go? And then you have the weasel mouthed fucking

weird right wing people being like, see this is what they mean. Men are dying and I'm here to save them with my bugatti. We've allowed our- I do enough karate that you have to respect me. I do the karate and I eat Havarti, jeez. We have allowed the space for the jokes

and the hee hees and ha ha's and us trying to give space to those lesser voices to create a space where we have just made it this like, we've continued this like back and forth, this team sport of it all. We went the whole other direction and a lot of it is a lot of white people and I think white people who like White people I'm gonna just call you out right now lots of times when you find out that you have something that you're kind of a minority You think you join in on the party and you come at it with the heat that is not the same because you grew up white you grew up with your privilege and you didn't inspect that and then you come in with in the like Minority side being like I get it and you're you're that, and then you come in with, in the minority side, being like, I get it, and you're moving like someone who does not

really understand the oppression that comes with being visibly oppressed. Yeah, it's like flirting with the power of the oppressor still is oppressive. But the thing is, we have to acknowledge that the system that these young men exist in gives them privilege and power,

regardless of whether or not they realize it or acknowledge it. And a lot of times, the reason these, when, you know, like men are trash, that type of thing, right? When a guy looks at that and he goes, but I'm not trash, hashtag not all men. I do, I wanna throw out,

simply because it is like such a common argument. I'm, devil's advocating to come around and then re-angel, let's say, more often than not, the defense that comes into play is, well, it's not my responsibility, this is outside of the boys, that it's not my responsibility as somebody is outside of the boys. It's not my responsibility as somebody who is not in that position of privilege to educate these people. Now, the response I have to that is, okay,

but you can also pretend to be pragmatic. You can get it. You are completely not responsible to do that, but nothing will change then. So glad you brought this up because it is like, yeah, there's been like ever since that wave came, it was so funny to me because I remember back when Trayvon Martin died, it was all my birthday, February 26th. And I had to convince white people.

This wasn't like a one-off event. So it's funny to see the growth in activism from there to then. But then this new urge to be like, it's not my job. And where it's like, Oh, I spent days online trying to convince people. And I think because we're just in this era of the Internet where it's like, well, all the information is out there is like, Hey, from this moment on, I need us all to realize, no it's not. There's so much misinformation online that it actually kind of is our duty to start educating.

I think we can't, we'd like, I'm not. That's a community mindset, not an individual mindset. Say it again. And that's the. Say that sentence one more time. What you're describing is you're trying to educate and uplift your community by playing a part that if everyone plays their part, then we can make progress faster.

But in America, it is very individualistic. And we are trained, and also I just understand, you wanna put yourself first and protect yourself and your loved ones and stuff. And we have to kind of untrain some of that programming that says that I Just need to get mine no matter what yeah fuck everybody else And I what I will give the caveat to is this obviously isn't to mean bad faith actors Like we all know people who are just asking questions

We all know people like I don't mean that what I mean is like sometimes I see someone and they are not Get like they try they're trying to get in and they're not getting it. And it's just like, well, it's not on me. And it's like, well, if they go and do the research, there's so much bullshit out there. Now it's not going to be so doing your own research is that they don't know how to research. They don't know how to. You have to learn how to learn. You have to learn how to learn. You have to learn how to identify what a good source and a bad source is and it goes back to the media literacy and the theory of knowledge stuff that I was talking about, which is like I'm afraid of somebody with who's mixing up there and there on Twitter doing their own research,

because I don't know if they know how to read. That's a joke, obviously. But you know what I mean, like the sentiment of it is... Going off of media literacy, let's try and understand this. Amazing segue. Let's do it. I'm not perfect by any means. I used to get pissed off. The running videos, the ASMR workouts,

I'm not going to act like I'm a saint. I used to block anybody who was doing anything similar to me. That was me. I'm blocking them screw them How can they copy my work? I work so hard for this. What's wrong with this dude? Why do the same thing as me? What is up? Then I realized bro, like people follow Jesus Why because he was great as a Christian man. Why are you angry if they're following you matter of fact If you're doing something good with good intentions, this should be a great thing So coming from someone who's been in your shoes,

just know if people are doing what you're doing after they see what you're doing is working for you, you're doing something right. Don't allow this to get you upset. This is the name of the game. See what I mean about dumb people? It's so funny to play. I'm sorry, I haven't even been to my head of Jesus

just being like, these guys are fucking copying me. There's so many people, and you know, respect to this man, I'm not trying to dunk on him. So funny to play out of Jesus. She's been like, these guys are fucking people. Um, and you know, respect to this man. I'm not trying to dunk on him. Um, just a little bit for, I am a comedian. This is entertainment, but I think for all intents and purposes, it is just a wild to me how many people are in content creation and don't understand how it works. Like people are first of all, first of all, mocking you. The majority of these videos are mocking you. No one's copying you trying

to do your thing. They are mocking you. You are a part of a joke. It's like running fast on the treadmill was my thing. Yeah well, and he's talking about him running on concrete sprints with Which like is derivative of like work fitness ASMR that was me the ASMR for Ashton Ashton sonal meticulous reasoning Ashton Soy man really leave him alone. Oh man, but yeah, no, it's like it is. It is like very funny to be like all these people are copying me, but people follow Jesus. And I'm like, dude,

I'm kind of like, you know, I do one thing is true. I do want Saratoga to pay this man because he did that. And like, look, this man said logo out and I'm not being paid. Honestly, crazy work outside of his coaching pyramid scheme. If like whatever he's doing isn't hurting people, I want him to be happy, but I want him to also understand how content creating works to like him be like all these people copying me. It seems like it's like I want to know how you interact with the internet. How did you get to 9 million Instagram followers without knowing a single thing about how the internet works?

We gotta get 10,000. I think this is like not uncommon. I mean, in the history of the Internet, this has happened before where people forget what came before them. Yeah. Like he's not acknowledging that there's been other buff guys on TikTok. I think it was the first buff guy and the first buff guy with an iPhone. They always used to crawl on the ground and he was like, what have I stood on my feet? Well, him acting like he originally did this. I went and shared this with Jarvis, with the originator, this motherfucker is just doing what our boy Mark Wahlberg did.

Oh yeah. So some of you may not know. Famous hate crime, Mark Wahlberg. Yes, famous hate crime. Not a host of Temptation Island, Mark L. Wahlberg, who is my best friend. Yes. And my dad. So this is Mark Wahlberg's typical daily schedule, 2 30 AM wake up,

which is nuts to waking up at two 30. That's still the day before. What do you mean? Yeah. If, if in any domestic time zone, you are on a different day, it's way too early. Uh, 2 45 AM prayer time, 3 15 breakfast, 3 40 to 5 15 AM workout,. Workout which I'm like hell Yeah, brother praying that is a he prays at 2 45 is still asleep. Yeah God is not woken up wake up to text on his phone 5 30 a.m. Post workout meal 6 a.m. Shower 7 30 a.m. Golf

8 a.m. Snack 730 am golf, 8 a.m. snack. 30 minutes of golf. Yeah, that's absolutely nuts. It must be the par three on a night. Okay, you have it. Did he wake up on the course? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's because he showers at 6 a.m. Which means he either gets dressed in a minute or if we say he starts golfing at six, seven 30, he has a snack. So it takes him 30 minutes to get dressed, get to the golf course, then 30 minutes to finish golfing, which I can only assume is the front nine.

There's no way you're doing a full 18 in 30 minutes. 8 a.m snack. Also, he has to get a hole in one. This is sorry. That golf metric is fucking me up in the room. Yeah, well, you're not getting a hole in one of those. I golf, and even on a simple par three nine, that's still like two hours for me.

Maybe. For you. My favorite of this is where family time is mixed with meetings and work calls, which are both work. So two thirds of the things in that list are work. His family has two hours. I don't know if you could get that many meetings slash work calls within two hours.

And then what's his family time? Are they on the call? Yeah, I guess. It's funny also that after lunch, he has more meetings and work calls, no more family time. Yeah, yeah. And then he picks up his kids at school at three. Who was his family type with? Maybe just with his brothers that he

eaten wall burgers with the boys. I think Donnie's work schedule is probably wake up 1 p.m. drive manically to the law and order set or whatever. Copper candies on not Lord order. Blue bloods wakes up, go to blue bloods, stumble drunkenly through my lines, golf for 15 minutes bed. Um, let's go to his new, uh, Ashens, Ashens. No, we got to wake up at two.

Uh, let's go to Ashton's follow up and then we can, uh, freestyle for a bit and then wrap it. Uh, and then we have some games that we're going to play, like, uh, not geoguessor, but time guesser where we like analyze a photo and then there's one that someone recommended on our on our patreon which was redactile where you have to identify a Wikipedia article by By a redacted page and so I think that could be fun that's gonna be happening on patreon.com slash sad boys You can get for as low as five dollars a month gives you access to all of our premium patreon podcasts sad boys nights Which what at this point there's?

Dozens 106 episodes alright, so let's load up his new get ready with me because now he's it's it's the first one that he's made Since the blow-up how much of this is part of his infrastructure? Like the get ready with me. We'll find out. I think it's a fair amount. He's at least, the earliest one of these I watched was in January.

Is he making you do a capture? This is their new one where you have to select two of the same shapes and I'm weirdly bad at it. Well, that's because- You don't see the shape. Because we can't, we need to like have a test where you can exhibit an emotion Like cuz computers can do every one of these better than a person can I? Need to get fully work. Yeah, can we pause before that man has to have the driest hates in the world?

For it to make that much noise like Like you just take, everyone just rub your hands together. You have the softest. His um. Well I've done the least. I'm like conspiracy theorist about him recording extra fully for his videos. Because the sounds are mixed way out of whack. Oh yeah.

Such an ungenerous screenshot. And I'll notice that like between his last Get Ready With Me and this one, he discovered that he has sensitive teeth and started using since a dime. Also that he has lights on his face there where his eyes were rolling back. Also, are we gonna assume that he went to sleep with that watch on?

Yeah, he's the watch and the chain on. Well, I sleep with my chain on. So I was just fused to escape. Yeah, yeah, yeah, if I take it off, my head falls off. You're like Dorian Gray. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Ooh.

See what I mean about the bully? Did that hit a gong? Yeah. Ooh, you're putting beard oil on. The thing that I don't get is like, why is it so different already? Yeah, like he's not even using consistent like toothpaste. It's so funny because some things I thought he might change because of people's reaction, but he still kept the twerk session

in there. He has a twerk session and I love that his traps are so big. It looks like his head. Absolutely. No legs in his head is like off of his body. That's what frustrates me so much about this man is he's such a physical specimen that like the actual shit he does to me is more interesting than any of this. Yeah. Like show me those workouts. Show me that meal pay Pay it. Like that's absolutely not nothing. Yeah. It's everything. It'd be like, if that was like a jet pilot, but his tech talk was all about playing monopoly.

Yeah. Show me the play. It's all to get ready with me until he opens the door to leave. From this angle, he looks like a jiu-jitsu Kaaisen demon yeah yeah i know that's there's another angle on this video i think where heard heard where his head truly looks like it's fallen off of his body okay let's continue oh every day you just stop right over this is once again bringing it back to aesthetics and masculinity. The one thing I captured that is he broke that bottle and someone else cleaned it up instantly instantly. I was like, once again, this is faux masculinity.

That is, you have forced the which, like, I guess the lore of what this is. You have a servant. This isn't actually like you have a server like on Fucking ready for the other fucking hunter hunters. Yes that are just there Demon butler from runescape it's in right when you need it. Why did he have to include that in the schedule? Well, we stop breaking it. Oh, well be like you see the speed of It's the aesthetic once again of like him being rich. So sorry.

Go ahead. I thought they just woke up at a normal time, made it breakfast. I didn't know they had to be up at 3.35. And they don't do anything. They sit. That sucks. Waiting for you to knock something over.

Or to ready your bowl. That's how I learned it was the Bible, by the way. Also, I love that he changed the page. Yeah. Can we address? Sorry. I have to address this. It's now an iPad. Yeah, he changed the page. Yeah, can we address? Sorry? I had I have to address this It's now an iPad. Yeah, he leveled up the buff version of an iPhone Cuz I think people commented on him watching something on that small like oh, I certainly did

Yeah, I think definitely this is like him Addressing everything that people have mentioned because also his journal, his page is now the last page, which is funny. He was like, Oh no, it's not the first page. So now it's the last page. I fill a journal every day with how crazy my life is. Just open the fucking middle. I've got a special, why does that have to be the first last time bronze reading a book? It's the first. And it's like like if he got called out, now it's always the last page. It's like, I have a special iPad that gets bigger with every morning routine I do. So soon it will be like as big as the room. By the way, it's like, so this I think sometimes does lead to some of the more toxic behaviors and how we would view and categorize masculinity like,

or rather, I guess I should set up, is one of the classic identifiers of masculinity that I think can have value in it. Not that it's only applicable to traditionally masculine people, but one of the things that tends to get associated with it is confidence and a feeling of self-assuredness, right? Which is part of the appeal of it. There is a very, very, very thin line between shy lack of confidence and arrogance on the other side, where it's taking criticism and acting on it. Yeah.

The side of insecurity that pops out every now and then and stuff like this is like, fine, I'll get an iPad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, everyone has the same insecurities you take a screenshot but you don't crop out your battery life yeah you're like fine I'll just fucking crop it out then yes you're gonna be mad at me whereas the massive version of that is yeah watch it on my phone yeah fucking why do you care about that yeah yeah it's like it works for me they're gonna say oh you broke your saratoga and then the next one's gonna fold a pillow

Yeah Today none of his shit is consistent. I don't think lemons on your face is good, by the way. I Just gotta put my slippers where I need them So a lot of it's walking, huh I Just getting the shower again Do the run just like a specimen man, and you just but he doesn't work out Most of this shit is elevators. Oh, here's my favorite part

Heals off the pain um, deals with the paper. Yeah. I'm starting to feel, and I, you can let me know if this is wrong. If he, I feel like he doesn't have as much mobility because of his big muscles. Yeah. I mean, that's, you know, I feel like he's doing some slight mobility work here and doing like the kind of over leg overs. But yeah, that's the biggest fear. Like when you're getting like that huge is making sure you keep your mobility. But he's kind of like he is. He has even though he's looks huge, like he is like a svelte, like cut. But um, I am, I'd be curious. Like, like I said, without knowing his actual workout routine, I can't tell you like, he's a lot leaner than he would be as an athletic. Like it, it's not practical supposedly for what he was doing. So yeah, no, this is definitely like you're leaning into like bodybuilding. Yeah, this is aesthetic. So they're not include the diet or the workout.

Like I said, it drives me the longer the video is I'm like you don't know how valuable the actual information You're not showing it a little crazy to me, but Making me think that if you take a bunch of elevators and go through a bunch of doors You could look like this literally both of them in transit Running on concrete is diabolical. I know it is an easy Hurting We have a trip I guess you can't do that

Devil More doors You shampoo everyday? Oh, yeah. Who handed that hand? Today you didn't eat the banana. Oh yeah, that's weird. The meal's completely changed. Oh, well.

Oh yeah, here it is. It's not very carby though. Today it's gotten meta. Thank you. Oh it's gotten better. Thank you. Oh, that was nice. First 10,000. Congratulations. We got to do at least 20 bro.

Nuts. Nuts. I mean, it's weird to obviously, you know, obviously that's fake and to not just give a fakily ambitious numbers. Yeah. Why is it 20,000? Say 10 billion. Well, I feel like because if knowing what he does

now, that's the amount of followers this guy is supposed to get to coach other coaches. Honestly, followers is a good guess. Oh, yeah. And if you have, I guess, I don't know your situation. I was like, if you're doing consulting to get from 10,000 to 20,000 followers, I don't know how to help you, brother. And I need how many sessions to it,

if his advice is do more of that. That sounds so expensive. Every 10,000, you've gotta get another meeting with this man. Let's see Jacob's analytics. Just for him to tell you to bump it up. Keep going, please. More.

Actually make the number higher. I got these balloons and cake, and you're telling me it's not enough. But what if he's talking about like ten thousand yen? So for this one, the thing he spent the longest doing was I love the iPad. This is insane. And then also in the steam room, everything else was like, I guess he

pulls all caps into into bowl with ice. Run. Drink Saratoga. Take off shirt, I see. He dropped in a couple of times. So if anyone wants to follow this, zoom, zoom into Champagne Poppy, which is Drake. What's the longest? No relation. I never associate with that guy. What do we have? Assistant cooking breakfast? Is that?

The longest one is when he's watching the sermon on his iPad you know something that just hit me if we're talking about his morning routine there is a glaring a hole during all of that cooking that we see his assistants do like what are you doing in that time like what are you this is your morning routine it's like a Schrodinger's cat situation he like doesn't exist. Yeah, does he? Yeah, you know when not observed for the when walking through a door. He does not exist um Okay, I see shitting oh Almost all the time okay after the morning

Till night yeah, let's watch at least one more thing from his Instagram. That's just random I mean very doesn't work this shit just random He's like 300 calories a day The reason he's like I burn everything I take Can we watch this running one first? Yeah, yeah, yeah, cuz that's the one that everyone makes fun of that was yeah with the soundtrack. Yeah Yeah Yeah, with the soundtrack. Yeah. Yeah. What is it? The purge? Yeah. So that's a yeah. Yeah. It's like purge music while he just runs. Why? That's the other like a universal trade of all of these is completely fucking joy. Oh, I want to hear more talking. It's miserable. Life is miserable. You're never happy. You're just efficient. So what we just saw is about seven boxes of Saratoga still,

once again, not sponsored. This is his nine million on IG celebration. It is very funny to me to post on TikTok about the followers you got on Instagram. I don't know. Like, maybe that's the thing people do, but it's very funny to me. Unemployment final boss.

Not bro. I was really in the air for four minutes. Oh, what? He's in the air for four minutes. He was referencing the part in the video, in the first video where he it goes from 736 to 740. That's so funny. That's so he gets it. He's actually not upset Laughing yeah, he's like acting like he's in on the joke. Yeah Both things he's glad to see he's playing along instead of crashing out, but I saw the video

Crashing out is just off-camera. Yeah, he's like invested done crashing out. The crashing out is just off camera. Yeah, so he's invested in crashing out. He did it all early. So I'm down to continue watching this, but I do want to look at the before the virality clips because the self-referential shit I'm not interested in. I'm interested in when he was just his daily normal grind of content. Because this one's too much like my daily pick today.

My servant. Ew. Yeah, that full leaf. Ew. I just want to see much like my day today. My servant. Yeah, that full leaf. Is he stepping on leaves? It's a... Okay. They really go here to be like, getting less and less gay banana. Like, okay, we'll...

We got them all chopped up. It's different cuts of banana every time. Different preparations. Oh. Oh, family type. Yes, I understand. Mr. Beast is very successful. He can start waking up at 3.50 a.m. He's gonna do at least 10 billion, bro. Okay, okay.

There you go. So, I'm annoyed. I'm also annoyed with how inconsistently he puts slippers on for outside and not outside. In the first video when he goes to the pool he walks back barefoot to his door and then in his own house he's wearing slippers on the balcony which is exposed to the elements and indoors so he's dirtying up the inside. After this, after we go to the OG videos I'm very curious to the four people he's actually following

Oh my god, if David got David Goggins and Gary V aren't in there And one of them one locked you them blocked you one of them is his brother. Oh Eschenhall Anderson, no bully juice I was a and this is gonna change definitely, he's very product-like. I was expecting a pre-workout link. There's no powder involved. Can we go to his worthylifestylecoaching.com?

I do think it's just the coaching pyramid scheme. What do you think the bag is on that? Custom meal plans and coaching. My supplements. Oh, that's why he wasn't showing us that. Oh, let's watch this video. Oh, this video was recorded before. Where's your iPad at?

Loser. What's going on, fitness family? A couple of things that I want to cover with you today. First of all, I'm super excited to have you a part of this program, True Fit Body Coaching. In discipline. A program that we built and designed to get you guys truly fit, not to just look the part, but to also... He's in that void of the job.

Our goal is to have all of us back to the show, while also enjoying vacations, ice cream, pizza, and cake, as we all deserve. deserve now if you're here right now I'm sure you've seen some people this is like the rock For him to spend so much money on LEDs and have the most Blown out on an all white, black background. It looks like he's in an R&B video. Yeah.

This is very interesting because I'm friends with Scotty K Fitness, who you should meet. He's the big mustache ginger, does the splits. And so he has issues with shit like this, which is what I don't know yet, but I think it might be this. So when fitness people on Tik Tok are like applied for one-on-one coaching, they essentially will do it via email and actually like just have like either outsourced plans and, and like it's just fiber. Yeah. Yeah.

Like, and like have like someone who's talking to you, that's supposed to be him. And maybe one time, you know, you can have them on to tell the story, but essentially he found out because someone popped on his stream and he was like, Oh, uh, you know, you really helped me through the time with the workout stuff. He's like, what? And he was like, Oh shit you know, you really helped me through the time with the workout stuff. He's like, what? And he's like, oh, this, and that's how he found out that the person wasn't actually like one-on-one

way. This, you know, like only fans, people do this all the time. Oh yeah. It's just that like, I don't know, man, it's because you're saying unlock your best self with personalized one-on- one coaching, which is now knowing all about it. It's like very good legal judo because you're saying personalized one on one coaching. Most people colloquially. Yeah. Most people colloquially will just see this and think it means you are going to get, you know, if you take eyes out of there, then you're maybe in hot water. Yeah

Why today spots are limited? Supplements and diet everyone just want to know because you can like learn and practice your own custom meal plan Oh, and then also because I'm into a shipping need this whoa, so he sells this so he does sell damn Okay, ideal for every fitness goal. Oh, that's what? Yeah, how convenient? Yeah. Yeah, how could me of that? It'll work for whatever you need it for. It works for everything actually. It's got a perfect for everything. My thing, 30 minutes of goal, 500 push ups. Dude, I love what part of your day is when you ponder your protein powder. He's at the gym and he didn't check what was in it. Yeah. This is about the time. Cyanide.

The look. Science driven. Good thing. Okay. What's it good for absolutely everything? Yeah Worthy subs worthy subs is crazy. That's me. I'm with you. Also. That's why he had the worthy on us He is doing some like you become limitless with I'm selling the limitless pill Yeah, one giant container was there anything else on his tik-t TikTok that we wanted to look at before we wrap it? Is ASMR. Oh, it's old videos? Yeah, old videos. Yeah.

I mean, there is the thirst trap element, like you were saying, with the ice pouring. I think that's how he grew, was just being the hottest buffist dude. Yeah. And then he's shirtless and running a bunch. But it does feel like it's kind of- Oh my God, he's just-

Hiveting away and instead it's like, look how attractive you could be. Yeah. Guy watching AMD. You are kind of seeing more what I eat. Wait, uh, yeah! Meal... oh, okay. What? What's interesting about these early... Meal one at twelve. What about breakfast from the morning routine? What's very interesting about this video versus other ones when did this come out? 2023? Great. Is this is like less trying to have the I'm rich aesthetic and more like just fitness guy.

He's holding his own shit. Yeah. It says he does 16 to eight intermittent fasting schedule and keeps it clean. Good moves. Why does it go in reverse? And there's no carbs. Yeah. Wait, is that just like engagement bait to do it in reverse? Or something? So people go, why is it reverse? Yeah, like a countdown, I guess. engagement bait to do it in reverse or something. So people go why yeah like a countdown

I guess maybe this one looked the nicest well He does look really he did it so that if someone else does it like that he can say they copied him Why is everyone eating meals where they get yeah, it's just fitness influencer stuff But that's bad. I mean like you said like that's just more interesting It's just that he's like already so buff that like, he could do anything and he's still gonna have his body. Yeah, scroll up a little bit. I wanna see this, the one where it's like 2018.

I also, can you open up another What I Eat Daily? Is he dropping his pants in the fire lift? Anastasia. Jesus. Okay, so running in sunglasses is kind of his thing. Oh, what one do you want, Effie? Scroll up a little bit more. You scroll and there was one where there where it says 2018.

You're giving us some progress. OK, yeah, damn. So he was like svelte and then he got. I mean, I think we can agree it looks awful. I mean, look, the first one, very interesting. He was like going like the classic, like, influence, like fitness influencer route. And then like kind of did the Sigma switch up and, but he is like clearly very ripped in. The truth is like the, is it Natty or not really doesn't matter because the way he looks, even in the twenty eighteen one.

Yeah, that's so aspirational. Yeah. That if you wanted coaching, I would trust somebody that posted that way more. Yeah. Versus like, yeah, you just you have to be genetically predisposed to the twenty twenty three one. You can't eat enough spinach to get there or whatever. Popeye. Oh, he doesn't reverse it. He's eating more. Okay, but he's still in this high rise. So I wonder where he lives. Yeah, you're right. He's shooting this very kind of pedestrian, like real.

Oh, and also he didn't rub the banana peel on his face at all. Because that was him in 2023 and now he switched everything up. He actually became a new man. Yeah. Got yo needs bananas now. And that's why they spell Gaines like I think he lives in Miami. If you gave me one guess, he's both gains like Gainesville, my hometown. I do think, um, you know, there's like classic outrage Bay elements rubbing banana peel on his face, waking up at 2am, like not having an iPad.

These are things like that kind of are, you know, in modern social media, it's kind of a smart move because you're going to get like instant followers from people reposting like, or re or sending it to their friends. Like look at this crazy shit. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't understand the concept of parody videos at all.

You know, like so funny to watch that. I'd be like the Duolingo bird has stolen my whole. Yeah, the Duolingo birds trying to do what I do. The Duolingo bird should have posted four meals, but they're all seeds. Come on, guys. That's funny. I like that. I like that man. Good job. I say something good. Nice to you. Get it. Okay. You don't even like me. Sorry, guys. I'm signing a contract right now. I'm like a big frickin Like a big deal guys. He's saying for a one-on-one coaching person. Are you signing the contract right now?

I know leash. Okay. Thank you Would you are there any circumstances or like well the thing can you tell them we need to make it at least 10,000? Oh, yeah. Oh Just 10,000 we get 10 we got 20 yeah 20 yeah is the coach a lot of coaching is a counting kids that you're negotiating you're like actually can I have 20,000 no like that's double yeah well no actually 30,000 oh well this we have clearly had a lot to say and we probably could keep going forever and we will this is an extra buff episode yeah Yeah. Two hours long. True. And we're going to keep the good times rolling over on patreon.com.

So sad boys, where we're going to continue the show with sad boys nights. We may continue talking about Ashen Hall for a bit. We're going to play a few word games. It'll be an extra buff episode. Yeah. Wait, that's so funny. Wait, Anastasia. Why didn't you think of that? Yeah. So, that's so funny. Wait, Anastasia, why didn't you think of that? Yeah. So we're going to work. People really enjoyed. So on our last sideways nights, we played time guesser a lot and also game dole. And we're going to play some more games today. And we're also just going to shoot the shit and probably watch more of these videos. Cause I can't stop if he any plugins. Oh yeah. Watch um actually on dropout listen to our relationship pod with Emmy and iffy And that's uh, I think that's all I have so far. Yeah and all the other podcasts I do

Can we tease a special guest on this season of um, actually, oh, yeah. Yeah You're gonna be on this current season. So watch out have to watch out for Jarvis and then, you know, we'll have some other, uh, juicy, juicy things. It rhymes with, uh, Kamala Harris is going to be on it. Yeah. Yeah. We shot this. We got Bumala Baris. Her team didn't figure out that we shoot so far in advance. So it's actually, like, I can't wait till this goes live and you're our president.

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but it's really particular for us. We love you. And we're sorry. Boom! Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. People responded really well to us playing games and we would love to do that more. Someone in the comments on the last episode

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