Sad Boyz - My BF's Mom Hates Me... AIO? | Sad Boyz

Episode Date: July 4, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to sad boys podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis I'm Jordan quick quick If you're not watching the video if you're just listening to it run over quick stop doing the dishes look look no stop Oh, you got him, dude I tried to hold it hold you back, but you couldn't be stopped. It's going on man. I'm really sorry. I'm Jordan What's up? It makes me so mad when you do that This is an intervention. I have I have gotten you several times with it. You haven't I refuse to look at you. I'll never ever look at you ever again.
Starting point is 00:00:31 I don't want to be a negative Larry Lona a little sad sad bag sandbag. You don't want to be a sad Sammy a negative dad.comfortable uncle An introvert with nice, I guess what that is an introverted Irving. Oh that actually that's gonna But my name is road dog. Oh and John like a rugged road dog Yes, John T John wick I like rugged road dog. That is my name and everyone coming it um little peek behind the curtain we we are recording in bulk because I am leaving town for an extended period of time so I was will continue and so I as a person and I will
Starting point is 00:01:13 then depends on if you believe in object permanence what is that that sorry I blinked I don't I am now not in the country technically well this is like if you're watching this I'm already dead There's no time to explain there's no time to explain but it's not for any particular Wearing reasons just a logistical visa related thing, but I will be gone for an extended period of time and I'm bringing this up because I think we Both whether it ADHD related or just a way of kind of
Starting point is 00:01:46 metabolizing stress or anxiety, I feel right now, seven days away, exactly seven days away from when I fly, completely okay. Oh, okay. And I felt worse a month ago. Oh. And I may feel worse a couple weeks from now. But there is like this Eye of the Storm area where anxiety, it's almost like spent the resources for anxiety, spent the chemicals on it. And now it's like, you know, at one point, I'm like anxious.
Starting point is 00:02:20 I'm like, I'm just sitting at home. I'm not going to see friends tonight. It's like seeing friends a bunch and then be like, I'm not going to go to dinner or anything with anyone today. I'm just going to sit and paint models. What am I doing? I'm wasting the time I have. And now I'm like, well, actually the best way to spend it would be doing the things I want to do. It's like King George said in Hamilton, played by Jonathan Groff. You'll be back soon, you'll see. You'll remember you belong to me. He's singing this to me to come back to England. You'll be back. Time will tell. You'll remember that I served you
Starting point is 00:02:57 well. Is this a song about them like, yeah. It's very funny. But Jarvis is saying. In present full X, you'll come crawling back. Jar It's saying that you belong to him. Yeah, that's fine I don't want well know that's what you say. Well, who's who's saying this and me every every every that's me turning the turntables Oh, oh you drop them Just like I dropped the beat you that today in Podcastland is July 4th. So we booted you out of the country before we celebrated. I electively left myself. I am, that's me.
Starting point is 00:03:32 I'm an even prettier version of King George. I'm like, no, I'm actually going. What was the, what was the song that the guy sings, but he made a Canada version? Oh, oh. Not Oh Canada, cause that's their national anthem. Oh, I'm glad to be in Canada. I'm proud to be in Canada. In it.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Well, at least I know I'm free. I mean, that guy is like so patriot for pay. Yeah. Because he wrote that song in 1989, I think, and then did a 9-11 remix. No shot. Yeah. 9-11 remix sounds crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:09 No, that's like how every country has its own The Office. Yeah. It's like, I'm proud to be in India. It's like a different voice. It's the voices from that Spotify raft podcast. Oh yeah. Well, I'm proud to be in in Germany You know funny thing about your listening history is you listen to?
Starting point is 00:04:30 95 hours of the German national anthem speeches from the Chancellor of Germany in 1939, okay, all right And that tells us a lot about you. It means you love speech And you love to learn. That's right, Dan. You love to learn. Thank you, my nigga.
Starting point is 00:04:49 I love it. Can I set up a couple things? Can I sit down a couple things? Your beverage. While- Whoa, that was exactly right. While Jordan is gone, we would, we are planning to bring
Starting point is 00:05:08 dispatches from afar to the fans. If you're a Jordan stan, don't worry. We tried to destroy the power grids of Jacob's hometown in order to generate AI that would be Jordan, but then the town ran out of energy. Selfish. And so we just called a few content creator friends to help fill his large, lanky shoes.
Starting point is 00:05:34 They will be, we're not gonna find anyone for that. You will have to leave your shoes here. That's fine, man. We're actually doing something kinda cool, and maybe this is a little hint, you could guess in the comments below Who the guest hosts will be but we we found guest hosts who if you Voltron them together They actually make Jordan. That's true
Starting point is 00:05:57 though I need to reach back out to them because we Reached out to them a month or so ago and I told them vaguely July and so I think I need to start yeah, we'll schedule that following them following them Not I'll follow up is what I know we're sending a bounty hunter together Free don't worry. I will you this the squad is then taking a grand Pilgrimage to England and we will be doing some episodes. We're gonna be doing some pods yonder to England and we will be doing some episodes. We're going to be doing some pods. Yonder. We're going to be doing pods across the pod.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Exactly what King George was thinking about. You'll come crawling back. Across the pondcast. Pondcast. Sad Boys Pondcast. Yeah, how can we... A pondcast about feelings and other ponds also. About bodies of water, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:41 It's about bodies of water. Wait, that could... Lad Boys Pondcast. Lad Boys Pond water. Yeah. It's about bodies of water. Wait, that could why don't lad boys pond. Cast lad boys pond cast. Right. Well, no, so boys, you. Yeah. Well, I'm the love island.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Hey, I learned more like hate. Oh, yeah, of course. They can't come back to love island. They got to love island in England because they're like, we don't have, uh, we'll have to find an island to send all the British love. Yeah. Got other aisle love man. I hate this
Starting point is 00:07:08 Game much Marry the guy I love men. What was that aisle that they that they exiled Napoleon to? Oh Maybe call Victoria, no, of course a cut course a cut right is it course wait where they talk about this like a few weeks yeah Helena no no that was like his wife or something someone's screaming at us right now. Elba. What the hell? Elba. And then... Who's Corsica? And then St. Helena.
Starting point is 00:07:49 He's from Corsica. That he's Corsican. That's whatever. Wherever the fuck that is. Damn. Elba is what I was thinking of. Idris? But he died in St. Helene.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Damn right. He what? No, I'm sorry he's dead. I have bad news for you. I didn't even know he was sick. He died like Samurai. He what? No, I'm sorry. He's dead. I have bad news for you. I didn't even know he was sick He died like a hundred 200 well 203 years ago four years ago. He would have been pretty old. I guess we had lived pretty old but not that old
Starting point is 00:08:18 That would be cool. We have turtles that are like He's a little guy, but maybe not in four years Sharks who are like kind of like that age. That's true, he's a little guy, but maybe not. 204 years. Boom. There's some sharks who are like 500 years old. How do you know? You're only friends with babies. I'm friends with some sharks. I wanted to segue and say like, does that make sense? That sensation of like, eye of the storm.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Yes. This should be more stressful than it is. And does a week makes, maybe it changes depending on the thing, but that like. I don't know. I mean, you just did a shit ton of travel for several kind of back to back event. Yes. And I feel like neither of us like too much disruption, too much travel or whatever. Hate it. Hate the stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:59 But I feel like once you're about to be in it and in it, maybe it's adrenaline? I think that it's like one of those things where there's nothing you can do and you've got to rely on all your preparation. You have to focus on doing it. Yeah, you just go through the motions. I also feel like I have anxiety, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:22 90% of my life. And so when something that I should have anxiety about comes up, I tend to not. Because that's the area I thrive in the chaos of the moment. Yeah, like before we would go on stage, I would always be nervous right up until going on stage. But then when I'm on stage, you're doing it. You used to be magic, you were the assistant. Yeah. And I'd be worried about sawing an incision in half. Cause you did, you were-
Starting point is 00:09:48 Cause I never learned the trick. You were David Blaine style. You just did it. I had to get stitches a couple of times, but it was fine. Yeah, it was great. You lost like a slice each time. Now you're like, well, it's mostly a head on knee. I used to be seven feet tall.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Yeah. Thankfully gave us a lot of wiggle room. But they cut that part out and made it into peeps Who is not here today? Yes, they that's not true. No, okay. They passed on showing up today hanging out Yeah, but I do think that it is I've heard other people with anxiety say the same thing where it's like It it's almost like you've been preparing forever for this moment. Waited clothes.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Yeah. So then when you get there, you're like. For a moment like this, Canada. Some people wait a lifetime. Remember that Kelly Clarkson song? No. Was that Kelly Clarkson's song? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:39 No, the J-POS. Ooh, that could be a new segment. Is that a Kelly Clarkson song? Okay, Jacob, name a song. Miss Independent. Is that a Kelly Clarkson song, okay Jacob name a song Missindependence is that a Kelly Clarkson song survey says Yes, all right. Jesus takes the wheel No, we don't carry under what different American Idol That song where the guy he goes like you'll be back from Hamilton. That one's that one's Kelly Clarkson.
Starting point is 00:11:05 He says, Mm hmm. Mm hmm. It was. I trust Jarvis because the truth of the matter is that while I think I have like a pretty good knowledge of music, I think Jarvis is on another level. Did we find a blind spot for you? I'm just a little true. But no, he's like. A little encyclopedia freak. Jarvis is on another level. Did we find a blind spot for you? I'm just a little chewbox. As opposed to a box.
Starting point is 00:11:25 No, he's like- The little encyclopedia freak. Jarvis will sing a song, and I'm not talking about the chorus. He'll sing- I'll be like, what's the song that goes and then I'll sing all the lyrics. And then it's like the full song, he knows every word. And I'm like, oh, that's like, you know, Lee Free Woods. You've retained the plasticity of like 14 year old learning song
Starting point is 00:11:47 Well, yeah, for whatever reason it like I don't know like my relative names or any of my friends phone numbers But I can tell you The lyrics apparently to a jay-z song from 2013 that I haven't listened to since then maybe Maybe you've met one of your relatives right now. Maybe you're right. Like a relative. Your father. My father?
Starting point is 00:12:10 Hello. You're younger than me. I'm thinking of a different thing. Yeah, you're thinking of my friend. I think your friend. Co-host. Yes, that's right. Okay, so some of the listeners, viewers right now
Starting point is 00:12:23 might be extremely emotional hearing that Jordan has... Ah, Sarah Lam, pick yourself up off the ground. Don't cry. From all of the crying that you're doing, and don't worry, because Jordan's on his way back yonder across the pond. Wait, stop trying to take that cop's gun. No, don't do it. Please.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Some people might be... You're in the UK, they don't have those. How did you do that? I don't fucking know. Do we have- What do they have? They have one that's- They have a sword. They have a sword.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Oh yeah. There? Yeah. Some people might be, dare I say, overreacting. And as soon as you said it again for emphasis- Let's do it third time. Dare I say- Dare I say-
Starting point is 00:12:58 Am I overreacting? Am I, oh slash am I- No, that's, we're overacting. Oh. You're not overreacting. Overreacting. Did they am I? Oh, slash am I? No, that's, we're overacting. Oh. We're not overreacting. Overreacting. I like misread the. How?
Starting point is 00:13:08 Is our new favorite subreddit. We watch Jim Carrey movies and we say, is he overacting? Yeah. Yeah. You look like a Labooboo. He does look, every scene in the mask, he Labooboo's. He goes bo-boo mode
Starting point is 00:13:29 Did I used to do that when I was a baby? That's a question I would go boo-boo mode and my parents are getting mad at me does anybody else get a little bit bothered when a like Combined for a term like that another word for it. I'm reading encyclopedias The kidding the about the insect walking myself forgot right the I don't know the word for it. I don't read encyclopedias. I get laid. I'm kidding. The- About the insect walking. Saving myself for God. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:49 The- You wanna fuck God? Yeah, that's- I misread the Bible. Oh, shoot. I'm saving myself for Jesus. Ooh, I can't wait to go to heaven. Am I over-reading?
Starting point is 00:13:57 I'm having a holy threesome, trinity threesome. When is Neo be like? When there's two R's. When there's two letters. When they are mashed together, when nothing changed about the word. Overre there's two R's. When there's two letters. When they are mashed together, when nothing changed about the word, overreacting has two R's in it.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Your roommate always gets me. I want there to be one M. Me too. Oh, I thought you were gonna say you wanted there to be two R's. Roommate. Roommate. Roommate.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Would you like to meet my roommate? Roommate. We share a home, and by jolly goodness, the lease we pay to get Be honest with me, am I overreacting? Why am I laughing at that? Well, I mean All right, so there's a subreddit on the internet called redditcom. and it has a subreddit a small sub site
Starting point is 00:14:40 reddit called He's breaking Reboot him. AIO, which stands for AIO! Am I overreacting? Wait, real quick, speaking of AIO, I made that gold video about the
Starting point is 00:15:03 OpenAI paying $6.5 billion to Johnny Ive's company. To do something. To do something. And how it was weird and out of touch, even for, well, not even even for, but like it was just like very strange. But then there's now some like corporate tea that's happening where they removed that video and all references to it because there's like potentially a lawsuit of like some sort of stolen IP or did you you had a you were borrowing a book from the library of Alexandria. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:36 And then it burned out. I you are breaking Google X, which is like the Google like experimental arm spin out IO, which is why I thought of this, which makes smart earbuds from 2018 alleged Sam Altman slash open AI heard their pitch passed, got Johnny Ive to try it before copying it, and then bought his company for 6.5 billion and call the IO most dramatic must read tech lawsuit of the year. So there's a lawsuit happening. Literally I Y O to I O. And that's what conspiracy theorists think the world is.
Starting point is 00:16:07 There's like puzzles sitting everywhere. Yeah, the triangle inside the dollar bill represents three parts of the sky. There's skyscrapers everywhere for the eye to see or whatever. Jordan Peterson quotes. They scrubbed the internet of that video, right? Yeah. Except we- If you watch Jarvis' gold video, you can see evidence of it.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Yeah, I mean, there's an impossible archive. Oh. Wow. Wow. An IA. An impossible archive. Anyway, I just thought that was fun. I don't want to get into it
Starting point is 00:16:38 because we got to get into am I overreacting? But am I overreacting by saying, whoa, that's crazy about the news I just said? I'm a hero. Okay, am I overreacting? This is from you Jake, you wrote this? For thinking this is an insane red flag and this is a text thread. Okay, hi.
Starting point is 00:16:57 I'll be the email job person. Cool. Hi blank. This is John fake name, the district manager at fake company for area region. I recently went through your application resume you submitted with us for our sales position. I just had a couple of questions for you. When is the best time to catch you for a quick phone call? This is a regular email that I send all the time to all kinds of people all the time. Hello, Jonathan fake name.
Starting point is 00:17:27 That's me. Thank you for connecting with me, Jonathan. Today is a, but well, I see that's supposed to be a bit busy. Today is a but busy for me, but tomorrow I believe I would be available anytime between 12 to two for a call. You'd be too busy for a 10 minute phone call all day.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Then they also provided some context down here. I didn't respond because I was speechless. What an incredibly weird thing to say to someone who you want to interview. Sorry that I'm in the process of losing my current job, so I'm very busy and can't make time for you today. What do I even respond to this with? Would it be wrong to just block his number
Starting point is 00:18:03 and forget about working there? Doesn't seem like it would be the friendliest workplace if this is the attitude I get before even interviewing. I don't disagree. That's kind of a weird... Like, this is the type of thing where I would snap almost immediately at someone in a professional way. I'd be like, wow, incredibly weird etiquette. I'll not be following up. I would probably respond, hi, I don't think I'd be a good fit for the company. I'm withdrawing my application. Yeah, absolutely. I'd probably send that one picture of a pig in a sty
Starting point is 00:18:31 that's pooping on its own balls. That would be the only reply I could think of. I'd send Homer dissolving back into the hedge. I'd send probably one of these If you're in a position that you can That you can continue the job search and the job hunt and you're looking for like a career position and not something to like make ends meet and you have like a little bit of flex or whatever. Cause unfortunately the reality is if you need to pay bills, then sometimes you can't, you know, uh, be as discerning about where the money comes from and that dynamic.
Starting point is 00:19:13 But I do think that that's like indicative of a boundary push that could happen again. Bad news. And you're not, I I mean especially am I overreacting? I didn't reply because this felt a bit much to me. Yeah, absolutely not overreacting. You might be underreacting, but I just really, I think it's a, this is something that can only exist because of the like parameters between some people who really need that employment.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Let's also, we can also throw out like, let's say this is a person fresh out of college that's trying to get a job in the field they worked for. And they know that they're probably going to be underpaid for their work and they know that they're probably going to be underqualified for a lot of it. And that's, that's like a, a deal where we've all been forced to make with the devil in our minds, right? It's like, I'm less valuable because I've done it less ridiculous expectation,
Starting point is 00:20:01 but it's, it's locked in even the nicest bosses and managers often have that propaganda locked in. But the it is the problem is it's so okay to do this at most workplaces. You can be unreasonable and passive aggressive, blah, blah, blah, blah, as long as you are even 1% higher on the wrong than the person you're doing it to So which it shouldn't be place some amount of devil's advocate depending on the size of the organization the people doing the recruiting are not Necessarily the people who you'll be working on a day-to-day
Starting point is 00:20:37 Not not on a day-to-day basis and the people in recruiting could be under some amount of extra pressure for whatever reason. It doesn't mean that they're in the right for that strategy, but it doesn't necessarily mean that that's what you're gonna see on the other end when you do the job. But as someone personally who needs some time to emotionally prepare to do, especially a work interview,
Starting point is 00:21:04 even if it's 10 minutes, I wanna be at my best and most prepared and not stressed. Or what if I'm super, I can imagine a number of- I'm at work at my current job, what about that? I can imagine a million reasons that you wouldn't be able to be free for 10 minutes. I have two kids. I'm looking after two kids today or minutes. I have two kids. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I'm looking after two kids today or something. I'm on a plane. Also, it's tomorrow. Like how big of a fucking... So I'm giving you a big window tomorrow instead of offering another day if tomorrow doesn't work or 10 minutes within that two hour window that I gave tomorrow or a future day. You're like, you can't meet today. How important is it to talk today? I think if they are, I think you make a good point
Starting point is 00:21:49 with like the recruiter thing and that maybe they're making some arbitrary quota, which is not, I mean, you can be rude to people, but like, the thing I think that's so off putting is like, we've talked about this actually before where like it, it takes a lot for either of us to be confidently combative about something we're not a thousand percent sure we're right on because what, oops, uh-oh. And the same applies to like social conduct. Like not remembering someone's name.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Somebody doesn't remember my name. I will default to, hey, no problem. I mean, I forget all the time. You don't remember my name Sorry, sir Yeah, sorry the remember we met that one time in passing in that urinal and I looked at you and I said Isn't it funny when people talk to other people your nose and you were like, oh, sorry I'm sorry, and then you like splash piss on your hand and you go. Oh, sorry I'm kind of take I'm kind of locked in right now.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And I was wearing a face mask and a Daft Punk helmet. And I was using a voice changer. And I was one of the 9,000 white guys you met at that event every single day. Right, right, right. And it's just crazy to me that you don't remember me. Cause I thought I was pretty memorable. Maybe it was on nights I can remember,
Starting point is 00:22:58 but we did specifically talk about like at times we have forgotten somebody's name in like a semi-professional context and they instantly clap back. And this is the that of professionalism. It's like, okay, you can't. If you really wanna make this stupid quota, then go like, sorry, I don't have any availability for the rest of the week.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Would it be possible for us to hold on a quick call later? There is a way to do it that doesn't, well, what is this? Passive aggressive, right? Like doesn't come off passive aggressive. That's why it feels like a way to do it that doesn't, well, what is this? Passive aggressive, right? Like doesn't come off passive aggressive. That's why it feels like a manager to me. Yeah. You could, they could respond,
Starting point is 00:23:31 if they really did wanna talk today, they could respond, hey, it'll only take 10 minutes. Is there any chance you could possibly, I'm trying to get this done today? Right, right. I'm going at it. Like there's a million, I feel like you'd be too busy
Starting point is 00:23:43 for a 10 minute phone call all day. Yeah. That just like, it hits me the wrong way. We should say too, if this is the like, if this is a third party representing the district manager first person, which does happen a lot, I'd be pretty annoyed if I was the real district manager and the person that was doing my outreach was being like this with people.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Dude. And they're like, don't make me sound like an asshole. Yeah, sometimes there's a part of me that goes evil mode and I wanna be so mean, but then I'm like, no, no, no, no, this person is under the same stresses that I'm under. But they're just in a different situation. Except they have to have a 10 minute call today. So what I like to remind myself of is that this is like a reflection of whatever pressures they're under rather than anything about you because you're
Starting point is 00:24:33 not overreacting. It's, it's a passive aggressive ask that could be made in a more reasonable way. Poorly communicating. And also, Hey, I mean,'d look at district manager very privileged position, but they also might be under Manager well, it's like yeah, but they do the all the time that you know fucking greenhouse or whatever will still have you know What there is a stereotype about sales roles and this is kind of feeling like yeah that that type of it's Somebody in the mold at once hand you a card you say no and there's like oh yeah fine I guess you don't need it like they're like very high stress high turnover you know a lot
Starting point is 00:25:15 of people like for example when I worked at Yelp Yelp has a what I'm completely out of that place for many years now. So none of this matters, but it had a horrible reputation reputation for its like sales organization because they paid really poorly and it would be high turnover. And it would be like people's like kind of first job out of college, getting their kind of footing in that. In the sales world, and then they would immediately move on as soon as they could get something that wasn't as soul crushing. And also, hey, management class obviously very privileged positions, any more privileged than this guy or this person or another that has to apply for this gig. If this person does have other things that they're pursuing, it's not a smoke, it's not a, like, there is a little bit of smoke without fire where, like, and, and, and it's not a smoke. It's not a like, there is a little bit of smoke without fire where like, okay,
Starting point is 00:26:09 well, if this is happening, okay, either somebody's under undue pressure, or somebody's a bad communicator, or this somebody's a shitty person. And all of those results are like not necessarily something you want to interview for or work at. Work in the art world, there was a culture in the places that I worked where it was like, it is a privilege for you to have this job.
Starting point is 00:26:33 It is a privilege for you to even get this interview. You should be kissing our feet. You should be so lucky because we could replace you in a second for less pay because so many people want to work here. And then you also start the job with like, right, I can't believe I made it through that interview. I'm so lucky that was and they actually hired everyone they interviewed or something. But they set that expectation. And when I was really young, when I first got a job in this world,
Starting point is 00:27:03 in this realm, after I moved on from Midgard. I should just say in this industry because it is an industry, but they even try and tell you like, well we're kind of academic, we're not an industry, but it is an industry. Anyways, so it's a
Starting point is 00:27:20 whole culture that trickles down from the top. And it is per organization, like i've worked for some great arts organizations where it's like we're all in this together We're so glad you're here blah blah that i've worked in some other places where it's like it's like We're not going to give you Anything that you actually need to survive Because we can replace you in a heartbeat.
Starting point is 00:27:46 And I think they kind of prep you for that mentality right off the bat. Yeah, it is like negative. And it's impossible. Like negging, it's like, if you don't have the heart power to see why it's bad, I don't know how I, and they're like, well, yeah, but I'm trying to get laid. I'm like, well, I don't, I don't know how to explain why unethical things are bad by themselves. So it's like, I want to leave at the door that like, sometimes you have to deal with
Starting point is 00:28:18 shit because you need to like make money to like survive. because this is coming from a position where like that's not where this person is, but the abuse, the borderline abuse that companies will do where it's that shit, where it's like, we could fire you in a heartbeat. That's like, well damn, then fire me in a heartbeat, then get another job, that's like how I feel. Because it's like- What tricking you the reverse way of like,
Starting point is 00:28:45 you will progress and make a lot more money if you work harder. You don't get fucking promoted. Like no one gets promoted to management position without like some educational qualification for doing that. But they'll tell you like, Hey, if you used to work at a grocery store, I worked at Iceland.
Starting point is 00:29:02 I take that. I revealed the name of the country. It's take that. I revealed the name to you. It's so stupid. My head's got very cold. It is mostly frozen stuff. But I used to work there and my manager, he was like, you know, at the time I'm thinking, wow, this guy's like 50 years old and a millionaire.
Starting point is 00:29:17 He was probably like 22. But I was 15 and I was just like, I just want a job, I want something to do. I'm not high school right now. And I- You gotta buy video games. I gotta I want a job. I want something to do. I'm not a high schooler right now. And I- You gotta buy video games. I gotta frigging buy a video game and then not like it and then return it and say I didn't play it.
Starting point is 00:29:31 And they get banned from Pink Planet, which was the story I did that at. Sorry, I broke Mass Effect. I, and then I got banned. I don't think there is like any heroes in that situation aside from the person that's like, that needs a gig and needs money. And I was convinced that my manager was like, a real piece of shit, because he was always pushing me to sell our rewards card, whatever club card equivalent is. and I had like one big argument with them. And I was just like, I can't believe this CEO of Iceland is behaving this way to me. And like I kept the job cause I needed the cash, but I'm like, it's just,
Starting point is 00:30:14 I don't know. This shit pisses me off because that just, can everyone just be nice, please? Yeah. everyone just be nice please yeah okay there is a sort of culture that's set within any organization and it comes from the top down typically and and it's like there was probably someone on that guy's ass yeah being like your rewards numbers are a lot of times it's like you it feels like you're transparently looking at someone's anxiety response to whatever
Starting point is 00:30:47 Pressures they're receiving from whatever their top brass is Plus you've got this kind of feels a little bit like candid communication. You know what I mean? It's like well, I'm just being clear and honest. I'm saying exactly what I need to yeah, okay you win If this person's getting that kind of pressure, do you want like, I think you're perfectly you're reacting perfectly fine either way. If you want to respond and be like, actually, no, I'm sorry, I'm quite busy today. Is there any other option? Or if you want to respond and say, or if you don't want to respond, like I don't think you're overreacting either way. I will say that I relate to the OP here because my anxiety response,
Starting point is 00:31:40 there's no reason that this person's reaction should be to block the number, but that's also where my brain goes Can I delete this off the face of the earth so that it doesn't exist? You're blocking yourself as well Yeah, moving yourself and it's like I totally relate to that. It's like walking out of the room in an argument So like I just say I'm not good. I just might say something I regret so I'm helping us all Yeah, it's like I need to regulate. Yeah. I need, I need help away from this. We can move on to the next one,
Starting point is 00:32:08 but I do think like when I was first starting out with my like first real career job, I was, I felt like a fraud. Weapons trader? I felt, you know, I had imposter syndrome. So I totally gave in to any little thing like this where I'm like, oh my God, I'm so sorry, yes, yes. I can meet right now. Do you wanna meet right now?
Starting point is 00:32:28 You know, I was just like so confident. Whatever you need my liege, I am, but a lowly surf here for the harvest. Yeah, that's like what I just feel like a lot of companies take advantage of that. Yes. And it bums me out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Cause it's to what end, right? It's like, you're making some tiny percentage point go up and to the right so that some one really, really high up the chain can get a small extra sum of money that's more than you make in a year. And you probably aren't even making it go up. Yeah. You are, you'll follow.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Oh, it's just, oh, it's secure. It's like theater. Yeah. It's like, well, I did this thing and we don't know why the numbers went up and down because this is Bank of America, but I did the little dance. I did the little dance and I'm reporting that to my boss and that's what they want. They want me to do the little dance. Thank you. I will do a bigger dance. All right. What's the next one? So, uh, we've ruled they're not overacting. I was not overreacting. I was not over the cup, not me. That was you.
Starting point is 00:33:27 You're big old... That was you in your flipper feet, you freaking dolphin. You dumb dolphin. You dumb dolphin. There's gonna be so much real estate available in this room when I'm gone. There's so much less. But nobody's gonna be fucking with you, though. Eh-eh.
Starting point is 00:33:43 No way. I just read the title of this one and it's crazy. I all, I all for asking my boyfriend's mom to stop. Am I, am I a asshole? Am I overreacting for asking my boyfriend's mom to stop calling me the backup plan at dinner tagged with family slash in laws.
Starting point is 00:34:07 My boyfriend, 26 male and I 24 female have been dating for a little over a year. His mom never liked me and she's made that weirdly clear. I don't like you. I try to she says in a little voice a weird voice. I I'm gonna make this weirdly clear. I don't like you 26 M. Um, I try to be polite. Oh, yeah No, she's 24f. Oh I I try to be polite and not take things personally, but it's starting to wear me down We were at his parents house for dinner last weekend things were fine until his mom started reminiscing about
Starting point is 00:34:41 His quote-unquote first real girlfriend saying things like she was so classy and put together pause this feels this is one of those things where if if true it is like a reflection of them and it's like so embarrassing but like it happens power dynamic because I've had experiences like this with the parents of my significant other and I'm like Are you dating me or like are they because you seem to have a lot of demands for what they deserve what so what? Do you want me to do? I'll be the different guy. Yeah, it's also like I'm not I don't want to like over analyze I'm not involved in but I
Starting point is 00:35:26 Am curious that's not what I'm involved in, but... I am curious. Old class? Yeah, a class component. Let's see, let's see. Saying things like, she was so classy and put together. You know, not everyone has that natural polish. Devastating. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Some people are dark. Some people lack a... It feels like she's like, she brought out her calipers and started measuring my forehead. She's using some kind of device to determine whether I'm good at basketball. She smiled at me and added, but you're a solid backup plan. Some men just want simple and that's okay too. What kind of backhanded compliment is that?
Starting point is 00:36:02 No, he said, and that's okay too. And that's okay. And I accept how simple and unpolished. Plain. And plain and unclassy your dumb donkey ass is. And I like, and that's fine. I was stunned. I looked at my boyfriend who just kind of awkwardly chuckled and didn't say anything. Okay, loser. See that's like, alright have a backbone Buster. Have a backbone 26M luster have a backbone 26m. You're coming at 26m So I said, can you please not refer to me as a backup plan? She gave me this innocent look and said, oh honey I'm just teasing don't be so sensitive. Okay, see that's like this is like This is like scientifically engineered to annoy me because I had a very similar experience and with the worst possible follow-up Yeah, just be like I one of my biggest pet peeves in life is when someone is mean, abjectly, objectively mean,
Starting point is 00:36:52 and says, don't be so sensitive. Yeah, whoa, whoa. I'm not allowed to say whatever I want? Yeah, that's like, oh, excuse me. I am impervious to consequence. How dare you? I'm feeling good when I said it. I quietly excuse myself and left the table.
Starting point is 00:37:08 My boyfriend later told me I overreacted and I shouldn't let her get under my skin like that. See, this is some victim bullshit mentality. So much stuff. Loser mentality right here. So much stuff she's supposed to do. Don't be sensitive, be fine with it, be polite, don't leave the table, don't overreact, don't let her get out of their skin. Because everything else is calcified.
Starting point is 00:37:30 You shouldn't let her get under your skin like that. Why is she trying to get under my skin? I don't care what the relationship is between, like, I guess really whoever is the connective tissue to like an environment where it's all new people or something, right? Like even if I bring a friend to a party and it's a big thing and they don't know anyone, all the way to meeting potential in-laws, whatever you want to call them, in-ish laws, a girlfriend's family or something, the person that brings you,
Starting point is 00:38:06 you gotta dance with the one that brought you. And I think, sorry dude, you can be as soy as you like, but you have to resolve whatever the tension is. And it's certainly not going like, well it's my mom, I can't argue with my mom. See that, and that's a flag. It's like, cause if you can't disagree. It's pathetic.
Starting point is 00:38:22 It's, yeah, it's loser behavior I think. So the, oh I have so many things I want to say about this. So. You've been too sensitive? Oh, yeah, just come on. Don't let it get in your head like that. It's your personality. So the thing about this is
Starting point is 00:38:39 everyone can roll with the punches. If most people at least, if you make a little joke and like for example, if they sit down and they were like, I thought you were bringing Bill Gates. You know what I'm saying? It's like, wait, you're only the, you told me you were the CEO of Microsoft. You actually, you work at a, you do an entry level job?
Starting point is 00:39:03 You're just an alma mater? Yeah, and it's like if you make one off joke and you go, I'm just joshin. I'm playing. I'm just playing don't even worry about I'm with you ugly. I'm just like that's one thing not even wearing that too much as well but something like this is a If I was in the situation or I probably wouldn't I'd probably like kind of keep everything nice and then kind of talk after the fact, but depending on the circumstance, because I will stand up for myself, but this is so like you're lying. When you say, um, Oh honey, I'm just teasing. Don't be so sensitive. You're not just teasing. Yeah. Which part of that was the teasing? You're actually being actively mean.
Starting point is 00:39:40 You are panicking because you got called out. And you're now, and you seem like the type of mother to have their partner's dating choices reflect upon them, and you're insecure about that, and you're letting that insecurity leak out in this passive aggressive language. It's the shadow self sneaking out. The valve is like too much pressure. It just goes, and it's like, you suck.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I'm kidding, I'm playing around. No, I'm just kidding. I just can't believe my daughter, or my little perfect boy would be with someone so simple. And you choose to wear that. Interesting, because he used to have a girlfriend that I actually liked. But who, by the way, she was also cool to.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Come on, why were you overreacting? That previous girlfriend was also bullied by this one, there's no way that she pivoted, because this one's blonde or something. And it's like, oh my lord. Is also the layout that really does stick out a little bit. I am a little bit wondering if there's a class or race dimension to this that's not being explored. Is this maybe his first Hispanic girlfriend?
Starting point is 00:40:40 This white family's like, hmm, something's a little, but anything could trigger this, right? It could be like, oh, I never wanted my boy to end up with a brunette. That would be pretty funny. You know what I mean? That's a pretty funny word. It could be anything, because we don't have enough information. Oh, you're from Pittsburgh?
Starting point is 00:40:58 Do you wait? Or whatever. I always thought, oh, you're an in you you are a UNC Chapel Hill guy I always wanted my my girl to end up with a Duke boy. I know I thought about here in North Carolina. That shit matters I don't know what would actually happen. But in my mind right now, I feel like I would end the relationship on the spot I've had relationships in the past where my partner didn't stand up for me in situations where I would and boring she is. She's nothing like my ex. Dude, why did you find someone with so many wrinkles?
Starting point is 00:41:49 Wow, dude, I can't even believe it. We're just teasing. So I feel like if you're just, if you're dating a little over a year, which it says here, and they're not standing up for you, or at the very least supporting you speaking out for yourself. Right. Like why? Also was raised by people who cannot, it cannot use any tact at all. Yeah. That's a pretty wild.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Did they say it was, yeah, parents plural. So this was not a three person dinner. This was like, you are flanked. All sides, there are people. Yeah, I don't know what you're saying. I honestly think it's impressive that they excuse themselves and just kind of There's a version of-
Starting point is 00:42:42 They didn't break down. There's a world where I break down crying at the table. There's a world where I flame out and crash out in front of the whole family. Or I say nothing. And like the only advice you can give someone for a post like this is, Hey, you maybe talk to your partner about it. Cause like I don't, you have to take the step. I mean, obviously no, you're not overreacting. Right. But like your partner should like defend you cause they,
Starting point is 00:43:04 they have to know that like they're at an away game. You know, they're not on home court right now and you are. I think defenses I've heard of some situations like this before that I don't agree with are people who say like, you're ugly. I'm just kidding. The people that say, well, I have an awkward relationship with my family and they're very critical of me and I don't know how to push back against that.
Starting point is 00:43:28 And it's like, okay, you gotta dance with the one that brung it. And you should not have brought me here if I was going to have to, without telling me that that might be there or that there might be some tension or that I guess we just don't. Does this thing where like I take you to a humiliation ritual.
Starting point is 00:43:48 And then everyone just makes fun of you uncapped. But they're kidding. But they're just joshing actually. And don't let them get under your skin because that's a sign of weakness. Don't be a baby about it. Don't be a little baby baby. Anyway, we've got a list of your insecurities
Starting point is 00:44:04 that we'd like to run through real quick and they're right they start with how Unpolished your dumbass is just sat there the hair being blown back by yeah So it's not like you're being so touch a baby stop being so reactive I think once you drop a don't be sensitive or like you're being defensive or something like that I think that's almost like You've you've accepted the loss, but you're going to do it. You are wrong. You know that.
Starting point is 00:44:27 And now it's like, I'm going scorched earth. It's the most cowardly thing to me when someone is called out and they go, oh, I was just joking. I'm sorry. No, I'm not sorry. It was now that I'm being called out, it was actually a joke and I didn't mean it.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Dude, I was playing. What do you mean you're trying to defend yourself? You fell into my trap. Dude, I was playing. What do you mean you're trying to defend yourself? You fell into my trap. Oh, as intended. Like putting out a trap card as they say it. No, please. You're overreacting.
Starting point is 00:44:54 You're overreacting right now. Anastasia, you have very sexy hair. Our other producer was way more polished. It was so cool. And classy. And classy. And he would come up like a whippet. Dude, no peeps today.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Crazy. Does it make you so sad? No, rocks. What? I think you're actually hiding your sadness inside. I love these. It feels like one of those days when a substitute teacher comes and they put on a video. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Not really, but I just wanted to say something. I guess every episode of Sad Boys kind of feels like that because we have a screen when you watch The Little Mermaid in French for like the 30th time because there's a substitute in French under Lucy Oh, well, I was in Spanish class watching it Sorry, you guys don'tara. Camel girl. Sha la la la la la la. This is what I'm saying. Que horror, que lastima. What? Sorry. You guys don't know Kiss the Girl in Spanish? Does this is a freak of nature? I'm just kidding.
Starting point is 00:45:50 I'm just kidding, Jarvis. No, I have a freakish truth. No, don't be sensitive about it. You're past-punked. You, I'm crying. You're being, hey, shut up. I'm here to defend you. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:46:00 It's weird. It's, it's, okay, weird's not the right word. It's extraordinary that It's it's okay weirds not the right word. It's Extraordinary that you just remember lyrics to songs in Spanish He's the brains on the brains and muscle You're the dirt on my shoe, I think you're the bag of bones There's I wasn't sure I was gonna mention this but to put a cap on the to put a cap in that ass.
Starting point is 00:46:31 To put a cap in the last one, I have this text from my ex that I always go back to because I'm like, damn, this is crazy. They said something to me and I said, I mean it kind of hurts feelings, but it's all good or something like that. And then the response was everything hurts your feelings. And I like just let it, I just let it go in the moment, but I kind of wanted to be, oh no, I think I said, I said jerk in response. And then we just moved past it,
Starting point is 00:47:02 but it was like clearly a problem. Like it was like, oh no, that's it's like it was like oh You know you just keep being mean to me. Yeah, it's one issue Sensitive because every time I mean to you and hurt your feelings every single time I Drive I get pulled over for drunk driving just because I'm driving the car drunk. This is This is whatever DUI is this is the same X for when I had like a RSD like situation where is like rejection sensitivity thing where I was like kind of shutting down a little bit. They
Starting point is 00:47:35 were like told me not to show them my feelings when I get like that. Well, because all that anyone is saying is, don't do that, it's bothering me. Yeah. That's being sensitive. They can't tank something that makes them feel anything but good. Yeah, and I'm like, damn.
Starting point is 00:47:54 So it's your job. That's crazy, because I can't control this right now. And I want to, I wish I could. Actually, I meant to text you, I feel bad, but this I think is a sad boys style Let me know if you don't have with style moment. I We sorry I was thinking subway starboard that I went s bsm super smash brothers I don't
Starting point is 00:48:18 Know I want to share I want to do to me. I think I know what you're talking about. I'm down We went out the other night. We went for dinner and You had a spot of it, of RSD. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's always for something stupid. Well, I just first wanted to say I was very flattered, I suppose, that you were happy sharing it with me. And I hope it helps to do that. I always take it as read, you know, completely understandable. And so I wouldn't say thank you for that. I hope it helps. But also, we that was like, only halfway into the thing we were doing. And you completely rallied. And it without, you didn't like step out, you went like weird with people you rallied
Starting point is 00:49:05 yeah I went to the bathroom like splashing water on my face and then I tried to reset but then we hung out with everybody it was like another four hours and it was a really fun night yeah no it was like and I think like in the moment I was like frustrated just by everything around me and And I was like trying to. It's adrenal, right? Like it's just like so annoying. I can't stress enough how like annoying it is because it's like, I don't want this to be happening. And I can't like, it almost feels like autopilot has
Starting point is 00:49:39 like start your car as being driven by itself. And you know when you like have no steering fluid and like your car is impossible to like turn. That's like what it feels like where I'm like, oh, I'm like trying to maneuver out of this. But I did dream where you're like running on a carpet that keeps pulling you back. It's like, ah, this is so dumb.
Starting point is 00:50:03 It's so dumb. It's so dumb. And then even I like got got defensive a little bit towards you because I was saying, I'm feeling this way about this thing, and you're like, about this? And I was like, yes. I was like, yeah, about that. I know it's dumb because I'm already
Starting point is 00:50:17 reacting in my own brain. It's like being defensive to anything. No, I, you see what I mean? I want you to know, I do know what you mean. And I, what I initially, I guess to clarify, I was saying like, cause I wanted to make sure I wasn't, I didn't get the wrong thing. As well as this thing.
Starting point is 00:50:40 But then you, you felt that. And I went like, I know why it feels like that, carp lunch. No, cause it's almost like you asked me a question then I reply in a British accent, you're like, why are you using a British accent? Oh no, I understand. It's a thing too, cause I like wanted to, I'd never kind of told someone else
Starting point is 00:50:58 while I was going through that. And this was like a more manageable one. Or actually I think like, it's like a more manageable one or actually I think like it's like a practice makes perfect situation like it feels a little bit like when you are driving metaphor again where you like slot you start hydroplaning oh you're supposed to turn in you can catch you can catch yourself but you're supposed to turn in. You can catch yourself, but you're like out of control of the car for a moment. And there are nights where that happens and I crash and burn, you know, on the freeway. And then there are nights where I can like kind of like retain control.
Starting point is 00:51:41 And you know, nothing ever goes like the worst that ever happens is I just take myself out of the, Yeah, it's not an anger. The thing, it's like, it's just a very much like a nope out of something or being slightly more confrontational when someone is annoying me, but it's like uncharitably confrontational. Like I remember one of our friends once was like, like I was tired and I forced myself out because I'm like trying to get better at stuff. And then I was, it was that Severance trivia night where it wasn't trivia.
Starting point is 00:52:23 It was like bingo. trivia. Oh, yeah. It's like it's a surprise bingo. Yeah, and I was trying to understand the rules even and I asked like a clarifying question and one of our friends on the side. It was like, wow, you really want to win, huh? And I'm like, dude, I just don't know what's going on. Like I'm like, I I't hear, I have normal issues. Like, and I don't need to defend myself because it's like just a bit
Starting point is 00:52:50 and I need to just like roll with it. But I'm trying to overcome all these things that I don't like about myself. Like I have some hearing loss from like surgeries I had of ear twos. And then I Like a guy across the way had told us the wrong rules for the game And I think he's wrong and I'm trying to confirm
Starting point is 00:53:14 You know like what's going on over simulation and all of these things all these things are happening and I'm like I don't care I just want to know what we're doing. That's all I want to do I just want to participate the first're doing. That's all I want to do. I just want to participate. The first thing in the stack right now is lock this down and then we'll go from there. I got to fix my leg before I go for a run kind of thing. And people are like, come on, we're running. Let's go. Cause it's bingo. So it's not the type of thing that I could even get competitive about. But it was a, for some reason, way too many nuances to the,
Starting point is 00:53:46 I think they were just trying to do theming, but the way they kept presenting each stage was like, well, this one's the art bow. And so everyone has to wear a big snow suit. It was just like an unnecessarily like, but I'm like, but it's still big enough. The other thing was that they gave us like a fucking, stapled stack of papers that were just set dressing
Starting point is 00:54:09 and unrelated to anything. It was the one with like the opening where she wakes up at the table and there's like the papers he's flicking through with all the questions and stuff. And I was like. It's very fun, but that feels more like a prize. No, no, no, but I was like, wow, this would be a great,
Starting point is 00:54:23 because I used to do in college, there were these puzzle competitions that I would sometimes do, like Google sponsored, there were these ones called Google games and it would literally be like these, a combination of puzzles and coding things and stuff like that where you would get in a team and kind of solve the puzzles together.
Starting point is 00:54:44 I don't know what you could compare it it to but it was like competitive puzzle solve. Yeah, it's like a sat-down room escape room. Yeah, exactly It's like an escape room Meets like a workbook. It's like a coloring and you have to like supplemental material like yeah Yeah, and so that my first thing in my brain goes Oh fun like thematic supplemental material And then only to find out that is something we can throw away So much of the table We I hope we're recycling all this fucking paper because this is like just for fun. I don't know mine is
Starting point is 00:55:21 but anyway, uh anyway, I Just thought that was um, I just thought that was nice. I felt nice that you told me. And then also I admired your tanking it. Yeah, well, yeah, I'm proud of myself too. And I had a lot of things like that when I went out for Magic Con recently, because I was just out so much. And stimulated, talk about noise.
Starting point is 00:55:47 And then also, it's like if someone came up to me, I could not take a photo with them. And these are champagne problems, but it's like death by a thousand hugs or whatever, where it just becomes overstimulating at a point. And it is something we don't want to feel. It doesn't benefit. If we have that experience, it's not so much a like,
Starting point is 00:56:09 hey, don't come up to me. I don't want that. It's a like, man, you deserve better than what I'm going to be able to do. I want to become a person who doesn't believe in mental health in that moment. I want to go, actually, this is all fake. And I just need to think better and harder.
Starting point is 00:56:26 I get why people are in denial and do coping. Cause by damn life would be easier if I just didn't believe it. Imagine how much you wouldn't be scared of death if you're like, I'm so excited for heaven. Like believing that must feel awesome. Yeah. Dude, I go on Reddit and I know it's not real. Um, all right. And it says, right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Should I put on a voice or no?
Starting point is 00:56:49 OK. Yeah. Am I overreacting? Oh, that voice is disgusting. Am I overreacting? This is beautiful. Never stop. Talk like this always. Am I overreacting for refusing to lend my sister, my dog, for her aesthetic maternity shoot? I'm 26F and I have a golden retriever named Miso.
Starting point is 00:57:08 He's four, super sweet, and honestly the closest thing I have to a kid. I got him when he was a puppy and we're really attached. He doesn't do well with unfamiliar people or situations and I try to avoid stressing him out unnecessarily. Cool. My sister, 31F, is seven months pregnant and planning this very curated maternity shoot with a photographer she found on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:57:33 She sent me some sample photos and asked if she could borrow Miso for the shoot. Her exact words were, he would complete the vibe. That's very funny. I want a soft golden hour family feel with a golden dog. I told her no. That's why we brought peeps to be off camera over here, is they complete the vibe. It's aesthetic, you know?
Starting point is 00:57:54 Yeah. They're golden. Like having a Jack Russell. I told her no, not because I don't support her or whatever, but because Miso isn't a prop. He's a living. Pretty funny reason to say no. I was like, I don't support her or whatever, but because Miso isn't a prop. He's a living- Pretty funny reason to say no. I don't support you.
Starting point is 00:58:07 I don't like you having kids and not keeping the dog. I don't want you to have kids. I don't believe in golden hour. Just kidding. He's a living, anxious animal and he's never even met her photographer. Plus she wanted to do it on a random field an hour away without me there. She literally just wanted to do it on a random field an hour away without me there
Starting point is 00:58:30 She literally just wanted to pick him up take the photos and drop him back off. Okay pause That's for two reasons speaking of Jack Russell's Peeps has arrived. You can't say if you can do British exit Okay, so Already they're definitely not overreacting because if your dog is anxious and they're gonna be with strangers, then that's already a non-starter. The question, the dog is the answer.
Starting point is 00:58:59 The dog also isn't gonna behave the way you want if they're not, like, I don't know what they want, but they, they're imagining a prop. Instead of a, they're like, Oh, and we can position the dog. It's like, not if you don't know how to communicate with the dog. You don't like dogs. I feel like, yeah. So like, it's also not your dog. It's so weird. It's weird to want a random dog because normally it's like, here's my family, right?
Starting point is 00:59:27 But I've hired a bunch of fans to be there. I've hired some dancers. I also think there's a level of liability here because if the dog is anxious and then bite someone because they're freaking out. We don't know the history. Yeah, I don't know any of that stuff. I assume there's no history, but even still like,
Starting point is 00:59:43 I wouldn't want to risk it. She already says the dog isn't good with, like, if it was Dipper, I'd be like, sure, take him. Yeah. Cause he like, he, Keep him. He gets the vibe enough. Yeah, he's very happy-go-lucky.
Starting point is 00:59:53 I am bringing him down. Picking off. What'd you say about me? Move your leg. I'm gonna see if I can get him to pose for a photo. Dipper. Dipper, come be an object. All the high. Dipper come be an object. He's actually, we know for a fact he's good with photoshoots. Oh hello. He wants to say hi to everyone.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Dipper, come back. Thank you. He's been a photoshoot dog. Oh he's sleepy. somebody had a big one. Oh, hi Sit. Oh good boy Good boy. This is my dog Whoa Well, he's a prop. Oh my god. He's such a photo shoot dog. He's such a prop. He's not a dog He's an object. Aren't you?
Starting point is 01:00:46 A loan out. Does anybody need this dog? We're reading a story about how someone, we were like, am I overreacting because I didn't want to let my sister borrow my dog for a photo shoot who's anxious? And I was like, you can borrow a dipper. He's not anxious.
Starting point is 01:01:00 I used to have to pacify him with like bully, bully sticks and stuff to get him to chill. Because he just was so high energy when he was younger. And even after we had like play and do all kinds of stuff. But now he's a heavyweight. Now he's dude, now he's in maximum chill time. He's like, I've lived a good life. And I'm like, bro, you were four years old.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Sitting on his porch. Yeah. The life of Lannan. He looks out the window. Dipper just turned four for those asking, so he's the same age as the dog in the story. Okay, let's finish this, because this is interesting.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Yes, there is the dog and I'm the sister. I offered to meet her at a park near me so she could take a few photos with both of us and Miso, but she said that ruined the visual. She was clearly irritated and said I was being selfish and overprotective of just a dog. Okay, so some people, yeah. Yeah, like it's just someone who shouldn't have a pet.
Starting point is 01:01:53 And so it's like if you don't. I'm glad they don't. And it's weird that you want this dog so bad for the vibe, but like could care less about its wellbeing. Send out maternity photos and people are gonna think you have a dog. I know, that's weird, right? That's exactly-
Starting point is 01:02:06 No, actually, I hate dogs. I just liked it for the- it completed the vibe. We've all known people who like get the dog for puppy time anesthetic. Yes. And then they get to walk like every four days. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's like, cool, I don't want to have it all the time.
Starting point is 01:02:20 I want a game. I want an accessory. I mean, like, oh, my dog is so misbehaved. I wonder why. Why are they always pissing and shitting inside. They go out every week. Later on, mom called and tried to gently nudge me to say yes. It's a small thing and would mean a lot to my sister, but it doesn't feel small to
Starting point is 01:02:36 me. Me. So his family, not decoration. And the fact that she got annoyed when I offered a compromise says a lot. Actually, it's kind of themed with the very first one. These all have the connective tissue of, well, someone's being unreasonable and they know it, but they want the thing more. I think that it's weird that like, they can't project far enough into the future to realize that if they had the dog without the owner, and the dog is anxious around people they don't know, then it would be bad for the vibe.
Starting point is 01:03:10 It's like, I hate to have to center things for people and give them, because if they're not going to have the compassionate answer, then I have to go like, okay, well, your photo shoot will go worse. If that's the only thing you care about, I'm just letting you know that's bad for you. I get it if you don't. Yeah, like if you care about the photo shoot, then would it help if I told you that the photo shoot would be bad if you didn't know how to communicate with the dog? I know your only hobbies
Starting point is 01:03:33 are taking the wings off butterflies, but I think they would not enjoy this as much. Now my sister isn't talking to me, and my mom thinks I should apologize for making a big deal out of nothing. I think the sister's making a big deal out of nothing, actually. Yeah. What is this deal that refers? Also. The big deal out of nothing. I think the sister's making a big deal out of nothing, actually. Yeah. What is the, what is this deal? They're also a big deal of also yes, like animals aren't people. And it does make me cringe when people say fur baby. But at the same time, like, you should treat animals with respect, they can be a member of your family capable of love and that deserve love. They just don't like drive and talk.
Starting point is 01:04:04 of your family capable of love and that deserve love they just don't like drive and talk i think when you don't respect them as a living breathing being with wants and needs it and not a table for you to lay your leg on anesthesia it actually uh is what causes like dog bites and stuff like that like you you need to oh he's going under my legs. Yeah. Anxiety and sort of feeling unsafe is going to cause bad, bad outcomes for both the people and the dog. Do you think he, so we just put it, so Anastasia's chair, she's an armchair, she's got a booster seat. I'll take a photo. And Dipper has put his head under the armchair and and as he's legs and I generously 15% of it miscovered and he is acting I think as though he's entirely
Starting point is 01:04:53 under there. So dogs are like dinning animals and they love to be under stuff and Dipper like he when he was really young learned like he could go like Let me see if he'll do it. I remember what he yeah used to be able to go right under it Dipper Okay, Dipper come on under Under Yeah Now he's locked in he just just lied down under my legs. So he still knows.
Starting point is 01:05:26 I never, I'm always testing him because like half this stuff is like, he hasn't practiced in months. Then he's thriving. Yeah. Oh my God. That was how much of Dipper was under me. This is what he looks like when my old bed frame,
Starting point is 01:05:41 he is in like another room now. And the reason I, it's my old bed frame, he is in like another room now. And the reason it's my old bed frame is cause he would hide under the bed when he was really young. And it would be really hard to get him out from under the bed. Cause it was like negotiating with terrorists or whatever. Like. What do you want?
Starting point is 01:06:02 No literally I'd be like, what do you want? Like what can I get you? And he's like, three bully sticks, a piece of chicken... And a helicopter. A belly rub, a helicopter, unmarked bills... A deed. And, um... The White House. And it would take him a bit to, like, come out of it.
Starting point is 01:06:15 And so I just got a bed that he couldn't go under. But even now, when he goes into that bed, he's like, ah, yes, my favorite place to go under. And he sticks his head under like that,'s like interesting it appears I do not fit all the way something's wrong with the bed I just want to point out the way that people say it not the asshole equivalent is they say no in Australia no no no no it's like your sister is being extremely weird that's not her dog why is she creating a fake?
Starting point is 01:06:45 Yeah, ask her if she should borrow her baby for your face to start. That's funny. It is, like, not, it's like wanting the dog. Yeah. But I do think- Is she pregnant? Is she just gonna wear a pillow or something?
Starting point is 01:06:56 What part of this is real? Like, yeah, I don't understand the wanting a dog just for aesthetic purposes to send out your maternity photos, I'm guessing that this was like part of the announcement, right? Why have any of it be real? We're having a dog.
Starting point is 01:07:14 But today and then the chipping it off. Yeah, I don't know. Jacob, are they the freaking overreacting? Are they the freaking overreacting? Shall we wrap? Am I the overreacting? Are they the friggin overreacting? Or shall we rap? Am I the overreacting? All right, drop a beat. Boom chick, boom boom chick. They are overreacting.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Okay. Why do you keep calling me that? Oh no, April not Friday, please. Wait, we just found out that the, I mean, some of us knew this, but the Arby's we have the meat song is from an Skrillex featuring push a tee song and
Starting point is 01:07:53 Fucking good. It's kind of a heater. Wait a second We have the beats! We end every episode of Hap Boys with a particular verse. We love you. We have the beats! We had the beat! We racked up 26k in credit card debt in four months. Bring the wife, I should say, and now she's filing for divorce. What'd you jack up 26k on?
Starting point is 01:08:20 Pokemon cards. Trying to buy a bunch and then sell them online which didn't work out Oh there's like Pokemon finance youtubers and shit you like treat scalping like it's like hey guys all you got to do is do a few quick things and then you make a billion bucks look at me all it needs is time and focus yeah no risk I'm so distracted by the co-host How she daily can that future girl future girl? Yeah, we are now take my money go away Go to which

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