Sad Boyz - Papa John's Trash

Episode Date: June 1, 2020

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Hey everybody, it's Jordan, your boy, along with an imaginary version of Jarvis who is also here. We just wanted to check in and say that we hope all of you are safe and stable and doing well in whatever way you can be at this very peculiar time in the world. And that we wanted to give our confident and full endorsement uh the protesters and the motivation behind those protests it's a travesty what's been happening uh i wish i could say that this was a new trend in america i just want to jump in and clarify that this episode was recorded about a week and a half ago and we we don't really talk about it it was in some of the new cycle but i don't think it was as explosive as it is now we thought about maybe not putting this episode out or waiting a while, but we also thought that maybe people could use a pick-me-up or a nice surprise. So we're going to post this,

and if you hop into the description of this episode, we've included what we think are a group of very valuable organizations you can contribute to, and also a list of ways to contribute directly to the recent victims uh i highly recommend checking those out those don't tend to get as much focus as the organizations but they're all equally as valuable and you can also find that pinned on the sad boys socials so yeah much love hope you're safe and we will speak to you soon much love bye what what is this what is this what do we do uh it's a potty decon past about peelings okay what are we peeling today jose uh banana

yes dude i love those little guys i love them oh man my nephew dude he loves he's been sending me some of that stuff on my Facebooks. I'm cracking up. You know, my girlfriend, Sadie, is unironically. Well, one, she's real. Two, unironically obsessed with minions. Is that true? That is factoid. Is that public knowledge?

That's factoid. Yeah. She's got like a minion little shrine in her apartment. Like she's got a few little. She's got some plushies. She's got a a minion little shrine in her apartment. Like she's got a few little, she's got some plushies. She's got a few figurines. Okay. She's full on memes. Here's the take that I think maybe she would align with.

And if she doesn't, don't tell me because I am right and she is wrong on her opinion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that minions are great and always have been it's the consumption of minions that doesn't do them any favors it's a little like the rick and morty i was going to say it's it's the rick and morty syndrome where it's not really the fault of the minions it's the fault of the the audience i even feel like your gary v's of the world have this problem uh he loves minions famously yeah yeah like most of his live streams are about you know it's like i've watched a lot of gary v i've read some of his books you know and it's like if you compare the guy himself to

like the people who kind of preach in his name it doesn't match gary v really is the minions of people bling bling bling bling bling yeah i was gonna say yeah no need to explain that statement all right here's the theme welcome to sad boys a comedy podcast about wait a comedy podcast that's an extra word that's not screw it we're changing i say we start doing jokes man it's a it's an attempted comedy podcast allegedly a comedy podcast welcome to sad boys a podcast about feelings and other things also i'm jarvis and i'm just shit jordan uh all right sad boys take 506 do you think you can get it this time jordan i can construct one 25 minute episode out of the 300 hours we've put in so far it's a super cut of just you accidentally saying that you're jarvis hey i'm jordan what's up hi how are you oh wow i can't believe it and how how is he doing yeah

no way oh that's crazy that's nice i hope you're i hope you're holding up in the crazy times he what no come on today all right that's why keep your head up keep your head up i mean i'm gonna have to to put the conversation on hold. Call me later. Yeah. I mean, look, we've got a show to record, but do let us know about how that turns out. And please live mass. And live mass, please.

Jordan, how the hell are you? Good question, man. I'm okay. Yeah. I recently realized, and I think maybe just just visa news as exciting as it is i think just kind of rocked my rhythm a little bit lots of moving and all that uh right i forgot to take what i would consider to be my most important medication for 48 hours is that haterade yeah it's the game it's a couple pills of the game a few a few sips of pimp juice. I don't know why that is what came out of my mouth.

Prescribed by Dr. V himself. Gary hit me with just a couple quick haterade slaughters. Oh, I thought it was going to be Dr. Dre. Dr. Dre. No, it's Dr. V, and unfortunately they are suppositories. But anything for the game. Oh, no, anything for the game. Throw it, put it up there.

Throw it back for the boys to get up there for the game. Oh i want out of this bit you've been podcast uh get me out of here uh so yeah that put me in kind of a weird place i've uh been it's it's my lamotrigine which i believe is most commonly called lamictal that's like the brand name or maybe the generic who who actually cares google it in this pandemic just didn't i just take whatever is an oval oh yeah i mean this in this wacky wild world uh see i've been a little little upsy upsy down today fix that this morning i which is really strange i mean that's like me forgetting my first name i truly never really forget to take my meds and so today was i was just really sad for like 24 hours, and I had no idea why. And then it became an extremely obvious why.

Yeah, it sucks how that can happen. I do have to, and this is a really insensitive time for me to bring this up, but you said that not taking this medication is like forgetting your first name, but we introed the show with you forgetting your first name. So I just have to call that out. Yeah, but me forgetting my first name is like me forgetting that I mentioned my medication earlier. Anyway, I actually forgot to take one of my medications earlier. Hey, what the hell are you?

That's like a fun way of saying how you doing, huh? I'm alive. Bummer. They said I'd be dead by 25 they still do uh they still do but they can't go back in time and kill me because of the grandfather paradox uh i am doing good i think i say macro i'm doing great uh micro this morning uh apartment's a little messy i'm still a little dazed and confused. I woke up at 8 a.m., but lucidity hasn't hit me yet. It's now 10 a.m. It's probably because I waited to drink my coffee until just now, but I wanted to be on for the boys. I recorded a video yesterday about how Papa John is a wacky man. And today I've got to edit it because I've only got my editor.

I started working with an editor, which has been great. But I only have him for every other week. His mother has him the other week. Yeah, it's a shared custody situation. I've got to edit this bad boy. And I shot it in a nice, crispy 4K 10-bit situation. So the two-hour filming video is 400 gigabytes big. Jesus Christ. And so it's basically a film.

How many very common little orange hard drives that YouTubers have is that? I guess. 40% of one? Yeah, it's about 40% of one. I have a little external recorder now because I'm a big tech boy. Well, that comes with the play button, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They give you a full set of recording equipment. They give you a camera they give you a camera they're like you you should

take this uh it's dangerous to go alone take this um so uh yeah i've gotta i've gotta i've gotta pull that guy together but it should be a fun video you know whenever i record something there's always uh once i've recorded it i'm like I'm pretty sure there's something in there but then there's like a certain amount of doubt I call it like the doubt gap between uh me filming something and me like piecing a video together because at a certain point in the editing process I'm like I have made a content you know what I mean but like uh but before that and after I finished filming it's like do I know how to do my job? That's a. Yeah. That's definitely a thing.

A thigh gap of imposter syndrome. My self-esteem is an hourglass figure. Do you think we should watch some Papa John with this? I could just cut it in. Oh, man. Yeah. You know what? I would like to show you the.

Now, let me just give a little bit of background. Papa John. Father John Misty. Father John Schnatter. I should have really made a Papa John Misty joke in that video. Get it in there, in editing. Give me, I don't know, what's fair? 32% of the monetization?

No, no, no. That makes sense. That makes sense. Oh, you know what? Before we get into Papa John, I got demonetized this week. You sure did. And that was dumb. Wait, hold on. Let me pull this up.

First and last time though, right? For sure. First and last time, for sure. There's no way they'd mess that up again. It'll never happen again. I made a video with my girlfriend Sadie, who is not a figment of my imagination and and human and to a for sure human woman girl and uh just got a venmo from java saying thank you don't don't read out your notifications during the show we've talked about this no sweat oh you might have

gotten another one just don't say a thing ding oh, this one. Well, I don't want to, this one's kind of mean. Well, just know your place. So, uh, Oh, I got one saying that. So I made a video with my girlfriend, Sadie called fake animated stories are still awful to which I, uh, you know, we, I, I corrupted Sadie with the animated stories that I have talked about a few times on YouTube. It's become a bit of a series. I was first after releasing this video, a little bit frustrated that when I put it out, people were like, you're really milking this, aren't you? And I'm like, the last time I made a video about this, it was six months ago. Have I not afforded a series? If you make a video on the same channel about the same thing, you're basically a dairy farmer.

I know. Dude, I was like, am I crazy? And then I went to Cody Ko's channel and he's made three consecutive videos about the same dating show. Yeah, I mean, Travis, he's a fucking piece of shit. I'm glad we're finally getting an opportunity to say this because you say this to me in private a lot. Like, oh, I just got a Venmo transaction about it god damn it just it's hush money you know if Cody Ko can do it who I love I should say made like three videos about the same thing and I was like right this is a series you're allowed to do this these people are just being unreasonable and I need to not take their comments, which are

few and far between to heart. Anyway, made this video, feel pretty good about it. Analytics are looking good. Video's looking good. It's a thing I worked really hard on in the edit and I was pretty pleased with the result. Cool beans. I had great fun with my girlfriend, who's real. And the next day I wake up to a message that my video had been demonetized because a human reviewer found that I discussed sensitive issues.

And so like YouTube has this thing where it's like you can self-select now. Like, hey, I said some curse words, whatever. I actually think it's a good feature but it's like regarding sensitive issues jarvis you didn't say shit and youtube found that you discussed modern acts of terror and events resulting in the catastrophic loss of human life and i was like i just talked about animation videos uh and so i was like what are you sure it wasn't because you were milking it yeah they were like demonetized for milk you've made two animated story videos in six months time that is a modern act of terror and so i was like uh hello youtube no and uh it got fixed a few hours later um so you know no skin off my back not a big deal

it happens it's happened to others much worse than I um or not not that they're worse people you know like Cody actually because he's a piece of shit yeah yeah no it's happened it's happened uh uh YouTube people have way bigger problems with YouTube demonetization than I do. So I can't front. I can't worry about it too much. But it got my britches in a knot. Yeah, this happened in the early 40s, right? Yeah.

I was at the gala. I was at the gala after a sock hop and drinking from a soda fountain. Okay, so that's all an aside. What was I talking about? Oh, Papa John. So new video about Papa John. It's probably going to be out by the time you're hearing this. But for those who aren't familiar with Father John john he uh john schnotter he's the

founder of papa john's pizza but he has been up to no good ever since he was ousted from his company two times um for saying some messed up stuff and now he's on tiktok he said he loved dominoes yeah uh and and hates black people. Yeah. In that order. Yeah. No, he doesn't hate black people. He just like casually said the N-word sometimes and told the players to stop kneeling about police brutality. It's fine. Yeah.

But his TikTok is completely insane. in it you he has these house tours that give you a tour of his extremely ornate and very gaudy ugly horrible mansion that he has i'll point out little to no interest in touring uh yeah it's uh like he the videos are i don't know 45 seconds. Five of those seconds at least are taken up by this trap remix theme song he has on all of his vlogs. Mix like 15 decibels higher than. Yes. I had to look at the waveform and it's literally like a low hum of his dialogue,

which you cannot hear. It's nearly entirely inaudible, but then the theme song comes in and it's like, oh, oh so jordan jordan and i watched a couple of these uh and there's a new one out and i haven't seen this one he hasn't seen it so we'll have to uh describe it for your audio viewing pleasure jordan hop on over to papa john's tiktok part three so this is a so this one is a tour of his

gym sorry i wait i'm just actually having my ears destroyed by the snare that is not ducked. Yeah, that's true. Okay, there he is wearing his own merch. Very cool. You know what's really funny is that I had to find... So Papa John also famously said that he had eaten 40 pizzas in 30 days, to which the internet said wiggity what um and uh uh i had i went and found the full length interview in which he said that and the audio on that is also at negative 40 decibels why i and that's like on a local fox affiliate, like news station. And I could not for the life of me figure out why.

So I had to- Less than half as quiet as what you're listening to right now, listener. Like it's so low that human, like at max volume, it's near impossible to pick up the words. So I, and no one had posted this interview elsewhere with corrected audio. Cause it was like one of those flash videos. It was on its own player. This was on Newgrounds. Yeah, it was on newgrounds yeah i was on newgrounds it was actually a stick figure animation but for show show it was strangely uh gory um i because i'm a tech boy i downloaded it

and like fixed the audio so that i could hear what this motherfucker was saying but i think that papa john's voice just ducks all audio around him. It just brings down the audio levels. He can only speak in a whisper. I'll throw out piece one, man. This is in all the videos, and I talked to you about it while you were sharing some of the video stuff with me. Yeah. People aren't going to get it until they look at the image, man.

But these are the wackest fucking dad jeans I've ever seen in my entire life. Yeah. No hem to speak of. He's wearing—they're touching the floor you can oh yeah not hemmed as blue as could be we're talking like a cowboy would wear these with chaps yeah yeah yeah it's a boot cut like no other they are like borderline bell bottoms to be completely frank oh yeah The bottom of his jean is dragging on the floor. So it's got like, it's being destroyed by the concrete or whatever. He's got a boot on. He's wearing, he's standing tall at 5'10", roughly. And he's wearing a shirt that says Papa in the style of ACDC's logo.

So I'm not sure if it should be read pa pa or not uh and the subtitle oh and it's you know broken up by a lightning bolt so which pop almost definitely use all i think it's definitely illegal uh i'm not a lawyer but it's certainly illegal i and i cannot express how uninterested he isn't doing this oh not at all like shocking he films for 30 seconds and then it's over and then the next time you see him it's a different day so theoretically his camera crew came over to his place filmed him for 30 seconds and then he sent them home and in one of his two pairs of trousers one pair of pants is jeans and the other is very very tight workout pants so uh the subtitle to papa on his shirt is

the day of reckoning which is a reference to himself in this interview about the 40 pieces in 30 days thing saying that there would be a reckoning at papa john's or something because of his ouster from the company uh which is a threat i think for sure absolutely yeah but we're watching him stand in front of his double doors that are 20 feet tall to his home gym um that is 40 feet underground or something yeah yeah no we'll go ahead and play again. Dude, I'm going to have to compress this audio because that's just nuts. One thing about this house is I try to utilize every single square inch of space that I can. And so the gym, which is a must every day, your wealth as your health, is something that is a big, big deal.

And so I took this concept out of the box. He's using every square inch of space that he can because he's clearly... This reads like he's selling the house. Yeah. And he doesn't want to. He's been foreclosed on. He's like, well, this reads like he's selling the house. Yeah. And he doesn't want to. He's like been foreclosed on. He's like, well, this is the gym. It's modeled after the Bellagio.

Yeah. Why? In what way? Fucking tasteless. This sucks. This doesn't look like Bellagio. This looks like one of the sets from like a 60s roman drama he's uh so i'd like to point out first of all that he says that his home gym it's a must-have because health is wealth and it's like i hear you papa john but

uh not all of us can afford a home gym that is uh the same gym from the bellagio with like 20 fucking workout machines let me ask you this though papa bless or papa flex um we're gonna cut in his tiktoks i swear to god we have to for the audio of that for the audio actually of this as well so um in what way is this modeled after the bellagio i'm a little bit repeating repeating points for my video here but like is it just that there's tvs hanging up in the corner and there's like a lot of workout equipment and i guess pillars probably yes it's also worth pointing out that like basing basing your your home on the bellagio suggests that the bellagio is wholly original and not based on like ancient architecture yeah yeah this is based on if i if i let go watch the movie troy the sets aren't based on papa john's so i uh uh this rap song is actually based on

weird al's classic white and nerdy the first rap first rap song um not at actually based on Weird Al's classic White and Nerdy. The first rap song. Not at all based on another music. So just wait until he starts talking about wildlife. Living quarters in the house, I would have the good views of the fountain system and the water system. Tremendous amount of wildlife. Foxes, geese, turtles, deer, you name it, it's out there.

But anyway, this is... So you've heard him say that it's 18 feet underground, right? Sure. But then it... I disagree. It's very much above ground. Papa, I respectfully decline, my man. As far as I can tell, we are looking out the same windows at the outside. His statements are back to back.

It's 18 foot underground. Also, you can see all this wildlife out of these big windows. Like what? I guess it's under some ground. Right. Like elsewhere. In my conception of what he means, it's, like, below ground level. You know?

Like, I guess. Sure, at the entrance of his house? I don't know. But it's above the lake, the moat around his house. Is he saying, yeah, is he saying that in the event of, like, a flood, his gym is the first to go? It's like, because it's, oh my gosh. Living quarters in the house, I would have the good views of the fountain system and the water system. his gym is the first to go it's like because it's it's oh my gosh oh wait wait listen to him talking about the foxes and shit one sec foxes geese turtles deer you name it it's out there

foxes geese turtles turtles deer of course deer you name it you name it it's uh i can't think of one more where so the black bear a kangaroo we get not 10 steps into his gym he takes an additional step and then stay tuned for part four flashes up on the screen. I got, dude. Oh my God. Wait. Oh my God. I accidentally hit right on my keyboard and I went into the Memorial Day thing, which hey, you know, shout outs.

I guess that's very nice of you to do, Papa. But it's the worst MIDI rendition of the National Anthem I've ever heard in my entire life. Oh my god, I'm listening to it. Did he make this in GarageBand by himself? It's, oh my god. Oh my god, why do, there's real ones. It's also just, it's like the- It's not copywritten.

It's the laziest tribute I've ever seen. Because you know how TikTok is a video platform? Mm-hmm. It's just a photo of him that says, Remember our fallen with the American flag in the background. And like his garage, right? Yeah, he's in his garage. He's in his garage.

Sorry, I don't know what came over me. No, no, no. We decided it's garage. He's in his garage sorry i don't know what came over me no no no he's decided his garage he's in his garage or an airplane hangar yeah not a lot of consistent aesthetics at one point you're in ancient rome based on the bellagio and now you're in the room from the matrix before all the guns come in it's his house is uh las vegas which is to say it's a bit of everything from culture it's the worst version of everything ever yeah he's got a little italy inside of his fucking roof you know what else is like very vegas is an extremely

buff and ripped in a weird way middle-aged man staring at you with the eyes of a deer he does look like someone who would just be walking around gambling in Vegas and you wouldn't think anything of it. And he has like an ambiguous amount of money. He like goes up to at one point to blackjack, puts down a quick 500 in front of a babe. And clearly it's of no issue. But then he goes to the buffet and he's like searching through his wallet for coins. Yeah. It's like, why are you so rich?

Question mark. Like, what does this guy possibly do? Yeah. There's another video where uh and i want you to watch this because i did not talk about it in my video it's going to be the fourth one uh it's it's him hopping over a fence with his dog wait hold on dude guy steps over his dog gate which is by the way located the the dog gate is located in the atrium of his oh yeah that's a foyer at best that might be his uh yeah his gala room i that's his uh by

the way that's his eagle statue slash clock oh great the ornate eagle clock in the background for his dog to keep an eye on what's it keeping the dog from the rest of the stone floor and then it cuts to a still photo of his dog yeah with like a vhs warp on it because i mean i kind of recognize the bit right it's kind of the meme but wait dude i i was thinking this guy's out of touch but he's getting all the memes right hold on a second this guy's out of touch, but... He's getting all the memes right. Hold on a second. This guy's cracking me up something fierce. All right.

That's enough of the Papa John update. Yeah. We love you and we're sorry. We love you and we're sorry. I just couldn't help it because I've just been thinking about this man. And now so are you and you're distracted. You won't hear the rest of the episode. Yeah, if you want to see the visuals, you can hit up my new youtube video but take a little look see

hey what do we do on this show sad boys well uh we catch up on our weeks we talk about our feelings we engage with an audience and we make goofy we chat about papa john for a minute we do but we do we do have a bit of a of john pop papa john update yeah it's like uh it's like morse code he what oh that sounds funny what what's that boy that's sick he did a damn daniel thing that's awesome very timely papa in the year of our lord 2020 we we put out questions and people send in things. I kind of like, this is like a slight departure from the thing we normally do. I'm thinking like, when we start having guests again, I think it's a little more like our old guest episodes.

But I think the one-on-ones, it's fun to just have like a bunch of questions come in and hop onto them if and when. Yeah. And it's also, we'll get into like our introspective topics and stuff soon, but we're just like warming up, you know, like we're just getting toasty. It's like fun to just like record something and put it out and not be too, you know, too precious about what the thing is. So we'll get we'll get there. Get an opportunity to really put Cody in his place.

And I appreciate you saying all of that stuff independently. I personally, you know, he seems like a nice guy to me. But based on a lot of the rumors you've told me from your personal friend, Jake Paul, I mean, I can't, I don't think I can get behind his stuff at this point. Sorry, there's, you're telling a lot of truths right now. Fire and truth right down your gullet. So I, we did a little call out for some questions and, and we've also got some emails. I know you found some emails that you wanted to read Jordan. I sure do. I have some silly little ones,

and I have this really kind of profound one that I wanted to read that I thought was just interesting. I mean, lay it on me. The fun one I have here is that per your reference, I think last episode, about what the hell are the inside jokes that people mentioned to us. We don't remember most of these. Christian Williams.

Thanks, Christian. Yeah. So for context, we did the show two years ago, and we built a bit of a universe. A grand mythology, an SCU, if you will. And we, for the life of us, can barely remember how we got there, short of listening to every previous episode of the show. Though I do have one in here that I do recognize,

and I know that you'll want to talk about, actually, because you have an update. It's Jarvis's Trash Chronicles. Oh, fuck. We have Fam of the Boys. That I am now remembering. That's good. Actually, shit, we should have been saying that the whole time.

Fam of the Boys. Yeah, for sure. Choco Taco. Do you have any idea what that is? I mean, it's the ice cream thing. Do you not know what a Choco Taco was? Did that come up on a guest episode yeah maybe that i would never bring up a choco taco because it's not something i have personal

experience with but i wonder if like one of our guests brought it up sounds like some cody shit that guy's a fucking okay okay okay i'm restraining unhand me that's jordan in the background it's like uh it's like in that digimon movie where they went into the internet we should do a commentary on that digimon movie that makes no sense we should because i fucking love that shit uh hit me i'm gonna give my trash update but hit me with some more insiders we got family boys we got choco taco choco taco we got justin classic javis's trash chronicles and i'm Jordan and and then brackets he has a new thing every episode

I think that's how I used to open the show maybe I think, yeah, I'm Jordan and yeah, you would have a hot take you would be like 9-11 was an inside job yeah, that's true I've never gone for that one, but I mean it is a new hot take, I don't think anyone has touched on that before

wait Justin also was uh you know is is the collective term for jordan myself yeah and a while ago we tweeted out someone had found uh someone found two bottles of wine one of the bottles was called jarvis the other bottle was called jordan and they were next to each other in the grocery store yeah it was disgusting uh sadie and I saw a bottle of wine called Justin. Red, white, or middle? It was a rosé. It was a political moderate. It was, yeah.

I mean, rosé is exclusively the wine of choice for sad boys, so it was on brand. That's true. Wait, what's your trash update, my dude? Oh, so trash update. Cue the trash update sound here it is now here and there we go that just sounded like a setup for the sound and not really the trash update here we go and now the sound's about to start still just a little preamble now it sounds like i'm supposed to leave a message after the beep i don't imagine

it's like the sound and then it's a malevolent uh trash man outside just shouting like it's time to get him again oh well in this construction my my nemesis is the trash man himself but so far uh my only quibbles have been with quibbles or quabbles um uh wambles my only wambles have been with the uh with neighbors of the sort so i currently have downstairs neighbors and um uh when i when i moved into this apartment in sept September of 2019, my neighbors were like, hey, do you want to share the trash bins? And me, who was just like sweating and in the process of moving in, was just like, sure, yeah, whatever. And then it was like, okay, here's when you bring out the bins, whatever, whatever. And I'm like, cool.

And then that about, I would say six months later, without hearing any other correspondence, you know, I was doing my best to put out the bins. Sometimes I'd forget to alternate or whatever, or it wasn't really clear to me how we were switching off. I just like brought out the bins whenever I saw them out. Sometimes I would be going downstairs to bring the bins out to be picked up, but they'd already been brought out. So I was like, oh, okay, cool. What about my day? And then I received a letter in my mailbox from my neighbors, from my downstairs neighbors who could have simply knocked on my door rang a doorbell should i read this letter yeah i think you can for sure

uh i'm hoping that this doesn't come back to bite me well i mean do you want to throw out like their address oh i would love to i was thinking about saying your your address is a joke but it is possible i forget to cut it out yeah yeah your dress is a joke, but it is possible. I forget to cut it Okay, this is like potentially triggering for me so here we go everyone We're gonna have to put some some some, passive-aggressive background music. Oh, wait. Okay, I have the perfect idea. It's like that music they play near when Target is closing that just loops,

or that music that you find at a spa. But every 15 seconds, I'll just play an atoll and skeleton chord. Or like the music when they're playing you off after accepting an award all right here we go jarvis we need to come to a better arrangement regarding the garbage cans it's not personal so i apologize if this comes off as harsh. Love the podcast. Love the pod. Love the pod. Fam of the boys.

With past neighbors, it has never been an issue. But with you, it has been. So this is the passive aggression just jumping out, trying to, like, neg me, I think. Trying to make me feel bad about how I compare to previous neighbors. Yeah. It does make me want to establish Kino. I'll tell you that. Yeah.

It seems you just don't feel responsible to take out the cans or bring them in when we take them out. Dealing with your garbage isn't something that we want to do for you or anyone for that matter. So remember that point, because I do have an addendum. We marked a set of black and blue bins with our address and ask that you do not use them. The green one we will deal with, although that one is your responsibility as well. So if you feel like you can handle it, please go ahead and do so. Jesus Christ. I would also like to mention that the green bin is something that I have never once seen them take out ever in my life. I would also like to add that I paid for a trash pickup to pick up a bunch of their shit in addition to my own shit on the house. I paid a couple hundred dollars for the whole like pickup and didn't even think to ask them for anything because I was just doing it as a nice guy.

We continue to be committed to having a pleasant relationship with our upstairs neighbor, considering we live in such close quarters, as an unpleasant relationship could easily spiral out of control and make for a stressful and harsh living environment for all of us. It's like, I hear that and agree. So like, why send a passive aggressive note? Like, why send something that's so like emotionally charged and condescending if you want to maintain?

We don't want to create an atmosphere that would make people uncomfortable for the rest of your tenancy. So here's like a ransom note. Yeah, exactly. Little baby. But if you think you can, if you think the little baby can handle the green bin, then please take it out. I will mention that we are both middle-aged, the two of us, and we have never taken out the bin. And you were but one man. One small coward. We hope that you have the same commitment to us.

And then they sign it with their names. And so, like, I had a lot of feelings upon reading this. Most were related to fire and fury because I was just like, dude, what? This is like the only correspondence I'd gotten. I feel like there's been some misbranding through cultural education around what creates conflict.

The idea of writing that message in that way is so unintuitive. If your goal is to reduce the chance of conflict or tension, it's, I, it's, I would struggle to think of a more effective way of damaging the relationship. Exactly. Yeah. That's what, and so like, they're lucky they're dealing with me who is like willing to sort of suck it up and be the bigger man.

But wow. I just thought of all the ways I could screw them over. Like, are you tempted to go down and just be like, hey, here's a little transparency message by itself made me feel a little uncomfortable, but you know. So I talked to my therapist about this and, you know, she's normally like a really like sort of buttoned up like type of personality as a therapist.

And when I read this to her, she first described the note as cowardly and then kind of like backed up and was like kind of corrected herself. And I thought that was really funny. A number of times I have gone out to my own bins and seen their trash in my bins recently. Yeah. And I'm like,

bro, I'll read you the letter I wrote. And it's just like, this is what I wrote and this is how I choose to live my life. All right. Sure. Putting a gentle fireplace in the background. Hey, name and name. Hope you're well.

My apologies for such a delayed response here, but I received your letter and wanted to formally apologize for dropping the ball on the trash situation, and thank you for bringing it to my attention. I think there was a bit of a misunderstanding on my part regarding our agreement and the expectations therein, but that is moot now, and I'm happy with the terms as laid out in your letter. I also wanted to make it clear that we both share the goal of a warm and cordial living environment, and it was certainly not my intention to contribute to any undue stress or strain on your end. Moving forward, separating the bins feels like a great plan, and I'll definitely still look out for your bins as I'm bringing mine in. It's the least I could do. In the future, though, please feel comfortable bringing any budding concerns to my attention, as I like to address these things as soon as possible to minimize inconvenience.

Thanks again for sharing this with me and i will continue to do my best to be a pleasant neighbor best jarvis absolutely savage it's like my um my biggie versus tupac like um and that's all i mean it's like look man kill him with kindness like i don't i don't want to i don't want to stoop to that game um it's a race to the bottom and it just like makes my day more stressful so i just have to like sort of grin and bear it and like live and and be with a smile on my face and earnestly not hold anything against them you know because um because i i don't want that i don't want to invite that energy into my life yeah i think conflict is probably actually

a really good idea for an episode at some point. Yeah. And I think Cody would be a great guest because we have an active conflict with him. Somebody actually, wait, let me check real quick. We actually got a suggestion from Henry Whittle. Before we took a break, they thought that maybe Eddie, Drew or Curtis Connor could be good on the show. We know Eddie. We can get Eddie on the show.

That'd be fun. show I mean Gus too you know who else would be great actually really good is Sabrina Abelina Sabrina yeah she's great yeah I think she'd be great she's excellent actually there's a lot of suggestions here for a by the way

sadboyspod sadboyspod at gmail.com sad boys pod on twitter hit us up with topics in fact there's also a discord we'll talk about that at the end i suggest we at some point do a relationship one because people want to talk to you about you and sadie's relationship they want sadie on the show we're gonna have sadie on the show she's nervous i talked to her about it already she's very a very charismatic person. It will be good, I think. We have spent maybe an hour and a half together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, we, you know,

most of our relationship transpired when Jordan was banished. Interesting coincidence. Right as I was unable to protect you. Like a white knight, Sadie swooped in to cover me in uh in the rain yeah and she is real and she's yeah real i'm gonna pull some classic sad boy stuff on you right now and give you a hard tonal shift oh because i thought this was a really interesting email and i didn't want to

miss it this time around yes sir from automata stark who doesn't maybe that is their name i'm not sure. They don't provide another name. So much love to you, whatever. Whatever your name is. Thanks to seeing new episodes of your guys' podcast, I got the chance to explain to my whole family why I was jumping up and down in excitement in my basement. I'm also curious. Was it the podcast or is this unrelated?

Oh, they say their basement is designed to look like the bellagio oh that's you know it's 18 feet underground there's lots of foxes and other wildlife present i don't know how i feel about reading nice things that people say about the podcast i'll read them out maybe i cut them i don't know but it it is very nice i just don't want to be i i say give it a go this time in the future we'll never read anything anyone says nice about us just maybe well i don't know maybe that's nice i mean i'm a big advocate of i say we read the nice stuff too yeah absolutely quarantine has been really hard mainly due to the fact that i

ended up getting blindsided by feelings of depression and so for a couple of months i haven't really been doing anything been able to do anything the worst part of this is that i ended up looking into my religious beliefs and i am currently at a place where i don't know what i believe anymore my religion has been kind of a foundational element of my personality so not having that has left me unsure of who i am so for somebody who will be going into senior year of high school that's the last one right yeah that's the last one great thank you so for somebody who is going to start senior year of high school in 2020 my question for you guys would be what do you do when you don't know who you are anymore this is like just a really really

good question something i feel like we talked about just off the show at some point recently was like what are we independent of the things we do? And do we even have like an ego and degree of self-awareness? If say we stopped making stuff, we stopped working on the routine we're working on, which we kind of did for millions. And we, I don't know, theoretically stopped grabbing lunch together

or something that grounds you in your personality. Yeah. I mean, like, I think the first thing to remind yourself is that like, you are not the things you do. You are not the things you like. You know, it's like you are you innately are valuable and and worthy of like things in your life, regardless of what you think you contribute or how you identify. Particularly with religion, it's always a bit touchy and a bit difficult because of how much of life can be ingrained in that world. And if you ever find yourself losing faith in a belief system, it can also challenge the community that you associate with that. And that's very scary because it feels like it can like strand you without a paddle and like not have anything to grasp onto. Um, I, I grew up in, uh, you know, like a somewhat religious household. Like my family

went to church and I went to church a bunch when I was a kid and was never, um, a particularly religious person, but always had, Was it a specially specific doctrine? It's a Baptist. A lot of black people are Baptist, at least in the South. And just like a lot of people in my community are spiritual or believe in God, regardless of whether or not they routinely go to church. And for me, like, and I'm sharing this so that hopefully it can maybe help you during your journey. It's like, I actually am not one of those people who like doesn't believe the

things that people who go to church every day believe. And that makes me feel like I'm a better person. It's really just like the world is hard. And if anyone's got something that works for them and doesn't cause harm to anyone, then that's fine. So, like, I basically don't want to yuck anyone's young, rain on anyone's parade or anything like that. Plus, I have great friends who are, you know, religious and stuff and it doesn't divide us. So and it clearly brings a lot of value to their life. I mean, exactly. Some of the same people. Exactly. Yeah. So I know that's not directly related to the question of how do you find yourself or how do you define yourself and stuff, but I wanted to provide that color to say that like, you know, this, this journey of self-discovery is not unlike many sort of journeys of self-discovery that you will

embark on in your life. You know, I spent 10 years doing, studying computer science and, and defining myself as like this person who was doing this thing and who thought that they were good at this thing and excelled in it. And all of the goals I had were related to progressing my career and stature in this world, only to leave that world behind and become like a YouTube jester. And that was very challenging for me and how I viewed myself. Because in San Francisco, it was very easy to just say, oh, I'm a software engineer at X company and have people like innately kind of understand your world. And you can always be like, oh, if this person is a CS major, a lot of CS majors like playing video games. So maybe I'll be able to connect with them on that and stuff.

And so then there's a lot of like sort of associating that then becomes your identity it's like i'm a nerd and i like nerdy things and i like you know uh and then i'm finding myself like in this position where i'm this weirdo who i make youtube videos about pop culture and weird internet stuff and i watch dating shows and stupid reality television. But I'm watching YouTube videos about, you know, the Xbox kernel leak and like all these hyper technical like things. And it's just this we are just three dimensional people. You know, it's like we contain multitudes. And I think that that that should be celebrated. Like you are a complex person and there isn't ever going to be

one thing that can define you. Because more often than not, the thing that defines you today is going to shift sometime in the future. And we're always going to have to be sort of introspecting and asking ourselves this question again and again. And the only thing that I can answer that with, the only thing that I know how to answer that question with is to say that I am the sum of this experience. It's like, if you don't see yourself as a religious person now, that you were a person who was once really religious, and that was a really big part of your life. And for the rest of your life, you will be able to connect with people who share a similar story in that way. And you'd be surprised or maybe not to learn that there's a ton of people like that.

And I'm sure a lot of them will write in and a lot of them have written in previously to the show. And so I think your point there is bang on where I'd say nothing is quite the foundation. It's, as you say, some of all parts here are composite. But at the same time, it didn't go at the same time it didn't go away yeah it didn't go it mutated into just as much of a component as your life as you want it to be ambiguity is still something yeah agnostism is still something to explore i think that you will like see a lot of benefit in treating your identity as this ever evolving thing that is not static um i don't know if this potentially could be causing a rift between you and your friends automata stark that's something i guess that's worth considering but at the same time right i think it's a good litmus

test for how valuable or how viable those friendships are it might be an opportunity for you to talk to some of your more devout or seemingly more devout friends to see if they have any of the same doubts or interests and who knows could be an entirely new font of convo and there's no like you don't have to do anything cold turkey as well like you can you can have one foot in and it's not bad you know what i mean like yeah being being in a state of transition is so normal to life that it should just be treated as like the only constant in one way or another we're all always in a state of transition to the next thing so that's that's that's all i have to say about that yeah best wishes best wishes mon frere thanks for writing in they say i love you and i'm sorry boom i love you and I'm sorry. Boom. Jordan, before we wrap up the show,

we did tweet to get some questions for us during this recording. And I thought it would be fun just to go down a couple of them and give a little lightning round. Yes. I think I'm understanding this one. Swanky them.

Swanky they slash them lesbian at fancy McUsername. Damn. Nice job getting that one. That's better than jarvis that's true how do you feel that not doing the podcast has impacted your relationship to your feelings i think they they just mean between the two of us right or impacted our relationship to our feelings oh yeah maybe that's it i connected to our like self-awareness and stuff. Do you want to go first on this one, Jordan? Yeah, sure.

I would say that a big part of self-analysis is being witnessed. Just having the opportunity to take your thesis of who you are, spending time at home, playing Destiny 2 and listening to Hollywood Handbook, theoretically. I'm sure that's what most people do. And thinking about recent events or things you're struggling with or uh doesn't necessarily have to be something negative but i think that's often what we can find ourselves reflecting on times like this yeah and then taking that say on a podcast is a really nice opportunity to feel very transparent and by

going through it kind of examine it through somebody else's eyes that's something that i don't think i was getting a lot of especially after i left for the time that i was away and not doing the show i just being eight hours ahead made it really hard to check in with people even you know texts and dms and stuff wouldn't really start happening till about five or six p.m my time and i think not being witnessed makes it really hard to know if your thoughts are valid and whether you even believe the things you're saying in the first place i will throw out as a recommendation to some people that the best way to learn something is to teach something if you have like a very baseline understanding and then you give somebody that baseline understanding

of piano chords and then you learn a bit more and then you teach somebody else it just cements it yeah i would again i don't like to be overly advicey but i would something i've been doing lately with my mom actually who's staying with me at the moment we've been checking in near the end of the day and saying okay what stressed you out today what was high pressure which mistakes do you think you made which mistakes did you actually make and then kind of walking the other person through the processes that made x bad thing or x good thing go right or wrong. And that's been super helpful. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, no. What I would add to that is that, well, I guess my own personal answer is that it hasn't changed a great deal with me, but it's because I, you know, have been in therapy pretty regularly. So I've always felt like I had an outlet for my feelings, but the, uh, the way I think that it's changed my relationship

is not having a casual outlet as much, um, and not being able to share sort of fine camaraderie with others in like the imperfections of self. You know what I mean? Like I, I, my therapist is, is good at validating me, but I think it's a little bit different having like friends and an online community to discuss this stuff with. And also sharing, sharing that stuff in a way that can help people is, has a lot of value for me and for us, which is like partially why we started back up the show was just to say like hey we're feeling a certain way uh and we think that like it could be therapeutic for us to share this with others and hopefully like help all of us in the process i'll also throw in there that you know if we were to talk specifically about our relationship you know

really candidly i think yeah we drift apart a little bit by not doing the show yeah it was always as two two boys who live through content it was always kind of our touch point i mean that's where we started the show in the first place and i felt yeah leagues up more up to date with all things java since we've done what three episodes yeah exactly so i'm very very glad it's a good old time you're a good young boy people got very uh soppy when i was saying nice things about how i loved you in another episode so i I'm going to do it again. I love you to pieces, brother. I'm going to kiss your screen right now. It's warm.

Let's do a couple fast ones. What do you think makes your podcast unique compared to others? Why should I listen to two big sad boys? Because you connect with us. Because it's us. We we make it unique because we're the only ones of us it's one of it's the only show that we do except for the other ones that we do yeah yeah exactly and you can't get sat these sad boys anywhere else um except for the if we do it uh would you still do the podcast if you both turned into worms yes we would just be the sad worms with a Z. I think it would perform better.

Probably. Why did you wait until recording to ask questions? Then someone said, I don't think that's literal. Probably means they're recording soon. No, it was. It was. We waited till recording to ask questions. And I like the in the momentness of it.

Also procrastination. Have you ever played D&D? If not, do not do you want to if you have tell us about it well um jackie i would like to tell you about a little thing called arcs pod also yes i have played dnd but arcs pod is where you should go yeah check it out as unbiased observers great show arcs pod it's just sick yep uh what's the worst letter the probably the the letter i got from my neighbors yeah the inciting incident in this new sequel to trash adventure trash quest do you have any advice about new starts in life jobs moving city from the big changes you boys have had recently hashtag live moss set zero expectations for how you'll feel yeah uh be open to transition uh and be patient with yourself don't have expectations about how soon you want to get back to normal

and also don't associate your new situation with necessarily with the way that you feel right now it can be really easy to say like oh well uh i used to go and eat at Papa John's, but now I've been going to Domino's and I feel sad. And it's because you miss Papa, but you'll grow to love Steve Domino's. Also, I'm pumped for your possible community podcast, says Adrian. Oh, yeah, me too. I would love to have you join the next watch of community. We watched the first two episodes. When's the Discord coming jordan right now i'm actually just googled the best way to share details about a public discord

it officially exists i'm actually kind of building it out right now so it's going to have a couple of little channel features i'm thinking we have something for yeah uh we'll tweet it out we'll tweet it out follow us on sad boys pod and for the discord get in there because i kind of have a surplus of time right now so i'll probably be available to talk to people hop in we'll chat we'll we'll be epic gamers once i get my fucking pc back and i can stop playing on ps4 like a bloody scrub just kidding ps4 gamers are gamers too so yeah sad boys discord we put the invite link up on the twitters and if you have any suggestions for what should be in there, how we should use it and what might be fun, go nuts. I will pop a channel in there probably for, I don't know, Q&A stuff in advance or even just suggestions. Oh, topic suggestions actually are

very welcome. Yeah. Maybe we'll have a little channel for that too. Any other questions that really make me pop off? Are you still scarred by two three go uh it's so funny i actually caught a little bit of one of the older videos straight up because i was checking into the election i think dye my hair blonde again prognosis was no i checked it on like the original video the relatable one i think that's the first one oh yeah yeah and yes like dude we've got very much so at the very least we've got to make one on the second channel like yeah just just have another one why not yeah i'm down for another one i think it's i wouldn't mind streaming it as well actually that could be fun i just find those things so they're so hard to comprehend that it puts me on edge a little bit it's the stuff like clearly those i assume

those scripts are translated a couple times yeah because they never pass just right there's a lot of tense switching like oh looks like actually i saw the specific bit where she's trying to get stuff out the back of her car and boy is it relatable right right i brought too much groceries didn't she don't you monica jordan i i think uh i think if we just like the second channel would be good just to like release ourselves of any expectations but continue furthering the meme yeah um so that that's just something i'm thinking about uh all right i think that's for now enough for the rapid questions that we kind of gave full answers to you know what actually i've got a hot take they should follow you on twitter you should you should follow me on twitter at jarvis or on

instagram at jarvis that's my name just my name do you have anything to promo my dude you got video you probably got another video coming out uh i mean just check out my uh check out my new YouTube when it's out about Papa John. Because it'll give you the visuals that you needed all along. And the nightmares that you don't know you want. You ever wanted to see a strangely ripped man walk around his house and really not be interested? Abso-fucking-lutely. You follow Sad Boys at Sad Boys Pod on everything. We do have the Instagram camped, but we don't use it for anything right now.

I don't know if we will, but follow it. Why not? We also have some content in the pipe. I guess we can talk more about that when we get closer to it. But if people have suggestions of things they'd like to see us make together in any form, audio, video,

maybe even both in the case of a YouTube, they can hit us up. And hey, you know what? Live Mars. Be good to yourselves. Stay strong in this challenging time on Earth. I hope you're well. Are you? You are? Brilliant. We end every episode of Sad Boys with a particular

phrase. We love you and we're sorry. Boom! Our boobs have been really on sync. They really have been. Love you brother. Catch you soon. My man with you. You're going to heal anybody, Jesus. Why not your dad? Thank you.