Sad Boyz - "Pick Me" Guys On TikTok

Episode Date: May 25, 2024

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Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. I'm Jordan. Hey, a regular opening. Did me doing the lip sync look convincing? Oh yeah, never mind. It wasn't regular. He was lip syncing me. Uh, yeah, it was good. He was lip syncing all the wrong words. Yeah, there's a lot of words I'm not allowed to say.

Yeah, he was saying, there's a map on the Declaration of Independence. That's pretty far off. Yeah, actually, in retrospect, I did a really bad job. He's a Coppola, did you know that yeah i did it is uh it is weird also weird how he um bought a bunch of like dinosaur bones and spent all his money on wine and dinos and then did i had to do a bunch of bad movies didn't do the beekeeper though to be fair when i was like 19 to spend all my money on comics, wine, and dinosaurs. Yeah. However, I think he was 60 and worth half a billion dollars. I don't know if he was quite 60.

Open up my Wells Fargo account. It's less. What if you open up your bank account and it's like, oh, where did the money go? It's a moth. What happened? A moth flies out of my screen. It's like a CSS moth. happened yeah it flies out of my screen it flies it's like a yeah it's a like a css ball they're like fly it's like um yeah it's it does like a perspective warp you

think it's coming at your face oh and then it's in the oh that would fuck me up so bad if you like had like a fly that'd be a good like way to troll someone oh is get like a little fly to fly across the screen but it's inside of the computer did you ever get one of those viruses where it would be like a beautiful bikini woman that walks along your task bar or something no this was like circa 2002 or something yeah no maybe you'd try and install a star trek demo disc game and all of a sudden Crystal has found her way onto your search bar

I hey big boy trying to play the Matrix online oh I did try to play the Matrix online I try being the operative but I can't

I tried I don't think I had enough internet yeah I don't think I had enough computer like my internet speed was not it was not up to snuff

now it's dead couldn't yeah like Morpheus sad maybe I mean yeah he did die in that that's

right which is kind of wild that the matrix four they were like oh by the way remember in the matrix online and everyone was like no what are you talking about yeah i mean why is morpheus in it i think it was more of a cop out than anything else but literally i thought it was supposed to be some kind of initially before the movie came out i thought maybe it was a little little joke little trick i think i even say that on air. I predicted that like, well, actually, he'll be in it. But no, it was a scheduling conflict. Oh, okay. They were just like, we'll get another one.

Yeah. We'll get a different guy. Can we have Herschel O'Reilly? He's busy too. Oh, no. Blade? Yeah, do you guys have Blade? Can we please have Blade?

They don't even know his name. I was looking at a show. Were we looking at an old show and the cast and then Mahershala Ali is randomly... It was like an old TV sitcom. He's in an episode of SVU that I saw recently. Let me tell you, they waste no breath on, like, the show might as well call him Black Man.

Black Man. I believe it's in the same episode where there is a hip-hop star and his manager is, quote, addicted to bling. It's maybe the best show I've ever seen in my entire life. I can't stop watching it. Yeah, he was in the show Crossing Jordan. That's what it was and oh my god the 4400 that's the show i was thinking of what's that

okay this is a show in the early 2000s i remembered the show recently while talking to my friend linus shout out linus the show 4400 was i think about, about some sort of apocalyptic event where only 4400 people remained on Earth. Oh, I do remember this very well. And this was like the early 2000s. I think it was pre-Lost. I think it was pre-a lot of that stuff. Pre-Avengers Endgame, probably.

Depends on which multiverse. Actually, if you were to think about the Tesseract sending you through dimensions. Yes, the Tesseract is a four-dimensional object. The Jock appears to be the same. He materializes. Also known as a hypercube. You might be surprised to know it was, in fact, an Infinity Stone housed within it. And I've got an Infinity Bone to pick with those filmmakers.

There's a huge erection. Yeah, and I've got a bon bone to pick with those filmmakers. That's a huge erection. Yeah. And I've got a boner on top of that. I do vaguely remember this. Let me find an image of it. Jacob, can you just pull up the 4400? Also, this is your phone. Oh, my God.

Your face unlocked it. What the hell? You won't believe who's on the line. Oh, yeah. Look at this. Oh, yeah. Look at the cast. Like, look at that cast photo.

So I was showing this to my friend like the top right and i'm like is that marshall looks like they photoshopped him into a show from the early 2000s wow every single one of those actors looks like almost a real one yeah that's not will wheaton ai is getting pretty good actually actually. Wow. God. What is she doing, by the way? This guy? This was like a Shining, you know, almost made it to the Shining. She almost made it to X-Files.

He almost made it to Law and Order. Dude, third callback for us for you, yeah. He's almost Ian Somerhalder from Lost. Oh, he was going to be the third Supernatural brother. Yeah, he's the third property brother. She was almost at the front desk in 24. I think that the super tall one might be. Is that?

No, it's not Jim. Wait, let's go to the cast. Jacob, initiate 4400. Oh, yeah. Classic. Oh, my God. Pfluger himself. Patrick Pfluger.

Pfluger. Playing Sean Farrell. Oh. Wait. Check out Patrick. The Pfluger himself? Patrick Pfluger? Pfluger? Playing Sean Farrell. Oh. Wait. Check out Patrick. The Pflugmeister. Can we check the Pflugmeister and see if he has had a prolific history in Christian movies? Wait, wait, wait.

Well, okay. Open that in a new tab, but can we watch the trailer too? Wait. Were there 44 episodes of the show? Maybe. No way. Ah, come on. The comet's not a flyby anymore.

It's heading right at us. Is it supposed to be that bright? Just changed course and accelerated again. Comet cannot change course. This one has. But it's not a comet. Mass is 100, 200 feet in diameter. I have over 4,000 people that stepped out of a ball of ice.

Oh, wait. 4,000 people got added. None of them have any memory of what happened to them. I think it just... It's like a reverse leftovers. Sean? The Forgotten. Oh.

It's 1979. They're dead. I think. She's eight years old. Only she was born in 1938. The Forsaken. We need to isolate... That graphic, that is actually...

The human beings. The Forgotten. The 4,400. Oh. We need to isolate. That graphic, that is actually. The human beings. The food they did. The 4400. Okay. So I thought it was the opposite of what it was, but in my defense, I think I was a child when this show was coming on, so I didn't have great recollection of it. I mean, it is.

Have you watched The Leftovers? No. That is a great show. Is that Damonindelof yes uh at least production i'm in but it is very it's great high concept it's literally like the opposite it's a small portion i think it's like yeah two percent of the population disputes yeah which we could do with it or like what was that show the last man oh not why the last man the comic by uh the guy that did saga what's his name oh man why why the last man the comic by author give me the first letter what do you find oh give me yeah

give me the first letter we'll see who gets it first b his name starts with b b B. B. B. Oh, I was just reading soccer again. Bob. Is it Bob? No. What's the second letter? The second letter is R. Brian. Michael Bendis?

No, that's not it. Oh, we're going to get it. Brian. It's not Brian. Can I give you a tiny hint? Brian something hand. Brian. He has a middle initial. tiny hand? Brian something hand. Brian. He has a middle initial.

Brian K. Vaughn. God damn. Brian K. Vaughn? I bring the K. I brought the K. I brought the K, baby. I brought the K.

I wouldn't have got there without the K. Contributed the K. Jarvis showing up to a party with ketamine. I brought the K. I brought the K. And I'm on it right now. You're four days late. I'm shaking. It's a bummer.

I'm shaking and I'm tired. Let me in. Speaking of comments, did you guys see the one that went over Portugal? Yeah. I mean, I personally didn't see it because I'm here. Los Angeles. Sorry, I misheard. I thought you said speaking of comics.

Did you see the one that went over Portugal? It was a Superman comic. That would be such a classic Jacob has access to information. By the way, this is literally the fucking trailer for the 4400. That is the same. We just watched this on the 4400.

Portugal. That's not real. Portugal, Fox, or whatever TV network did this in the 4400 Portugal that's not real that clip Portugal Fox or whatever TV network did this in the early 2000s it was Portugal no that actually is wasn't a comment in the 4400 if you paid attention no it wasn't a comment they're like people

there's 4400 of them duh and they're from like a long time ago or something as the reappearance of 4400 missing persons on a single day. It's a great plot. Someone should reboot this. Yeah, that is good.

It's like, cause I like that it's missing people, people who were already missing. So it's like, wait, and they all were together? This would do numbers on Netflix today. Oh my God. It would kill a limited series. Drops all at once, no second season. It would kill, cause I mean, this was,

it ran from 2004 to 2007, but I think it kind of got like, Lost kind of came in there and took all the thunder from every show that had any sort of sci-fi vibe. 44 episodes for like a traditional mainstream drama in 2004 to 2007 is not a lot of episodes. No, I mean, because they were keeping things going, but... And still, it's one episode too many.

They could have done it. Yeah, they could have done it. Bridgerton is the most popular television show, Jacob. I think right now, because it's like,

people are talking about it right now. Oh, because of DEI? Or whatever. I don't know. I saw... There's a new season.

There's a new season. Ooh, Fallout. We should watch that. Fucking, I'm going to fall off right now fall off the earth

that's flat by the way which is a thing I believe that I won't discuss please don't get into that on this episode it's so flat dude

you know I know that there's a lot of like TV or whatever is popularity mean it's the 2637th most popular show

yeah that's high by the way it's on the way down which is i think understandable as a show that came out 30 years ago this is probably the most press the show has had in about a decade 141 episodes of young sheldon how old's this fucking kid? How's this kid getting it? What's the deal with this kid? I do like the idea that like 141 days is not that much. So like what to you is like the time between episodes? Like 141 years? What is he a fucking Gandalf the Grey dude?

Is this magic or some shit? Did you watch the final episode? It just ended. Of Young Sheldon? Of course. Did you watch the final episode? It just ended. Of Young Sheldon? Of course. Are you insane? And the good doctor, I think they just ended

on like the same night. They had a duo ending. It's where he resolves Desert Storm. That's the final episode. He goes there, he uses math to kill everyone. Really?

Yeah, probably. So how long until they reboot this into Sheldon? It's just Guy. Elderly Sheldon. Yeah. Did Young rock? The small bang theory. The a guy. Elderly Sheldon. Yeah. The small bang theory. The small bang conjecture. The bang.

Young Big Bang. Shelled in. It's a show about a bomb shelter where only a few people survived nuclear winter. And they're like, they live in the vaults they live oh they live it's kind of like a fallout like like a like nuclear fallout let's

watch some of the fallout show to catch up on that idea also at the end of the show we are going to show a little preview of the new Sad Boys branding. That's right. Because we have been working on this for a while and our existing Sad Boys branding that we've had since 2020, we use free assets online, but we don't own it. So I would feel uncomfortable putting it on merch and selling anything like that.

And as we're gearing up for the new identity of Sad Boys and with a visual identity that we own we've been working with some designers and with the team and we landed on something that we really like and so that's gonna start changing on the next episode but we want to give you a little heads up don't worry don't worry it's still the same show just a little bit of visual differences some avatars will change some images album art will change. So it's still the same show, but we want to show it to you because we're excited about it, one, and then two, also so that you don't get spooked.

And we'll do that at the end of the show. So yesterday I was playing Magic the Gathering with our good friends Karen Han and Brian David Gilbert, and I had a card that every time I played an instant or sorcery, summoned a 2-2 flying Drake token. Respect. And every time I summoned one, I'd be like, you might need some Kendrick Lamar tokens.

I kept making that joke over and over. They're refusing to acknowledge it. I had like 13ar tokens. I kept making that joke over and over. They're refusing to acknowledge it. I had like 13 Drake tokens and I was like, you guys are going to need a few diss tracks to defeat my army. As you recall.

As you recall, remember? Brian. Brian, wake up. Brian, come back. No. Let me in. I want to play Magic. No, please, stop.

Come on. How's that? You're in the game. You're in Magic Jarvis is back Magic Jarvis has returned for those who don't know my original internet handle was Magic Jarvis is Magic Jarvis

because when I signed up for RuneScape as a young middle schooler I didn't know how MMOs worked and so I wanted my friends to know that it was their friend Jarvis that they played Magic with and thus Magic Jarvis was born. People think it's related to Magic Johnson.

It's not. People think I do Magic. I don't. And, yeah, so I was really into Magic as a child, as a young buck. The player. I was really into Magic Johnson as a young player. No, but I got back into Magic recently because I was playing with some other friends,

and I was like, it's time for me to know what my cards do because usually I just play with other people's cards. Now you're on your... It's just one last job. As a simple plan, or maybe it was Sum 41, or maybe it was another band that we can look up after that, I was much like their maybe 2003, maybe 2004

hit, In Too Deep. It's night. Who sang, In Too Deep In Too Deep Sum 41. It was a coin flip. Oh, there's also one by Genesis. In too deep. Sum 41. Sum 41. Okay. It was a corn flip. Hold on.

Oh, there's also one by Genesis. Did you mean Genesis? I did not mean Genesis. Not to be confused with the Sega Genesis, my first gaming console. That was your... Not that I'm that old, but it was a family member gifted it to me. Fellas, we're both young, okay? Yeah.

Name a couple things we like uh i was just listening to olivia rodrigo and i was like oh we have the same experiences in life as we are the same age yeah i actually created queer pop did you read it oh yeah and i learned that scary dance she's been doing i said do that this morning. I liked one reel of it and it's all I got. I said I wouldn't talk about it. Really scary. I said I wouldn't talk about it. It's like a dislocation dance.

I don't have the tissue density to be able to do that. My shoulder would fly off. I'm too old to comment on this young girl. And she's doing just fine. And everything's fine. She's doing a scary dance. No, she's just fine. And everyone is coming into their own and becoming an adult.

No reason to bully this person or definitely not laugh at their scary dance. Leave them alone. She just turned 21, so does that make it any better? No, it doesn't. It doesn't make it any better? No, it doesn't. It doesn't make it any better. Now you can drink.

And did I see the video of her getting drunk at Disney World and asking people to sing the lyrics to her songs and they didn't know the song? No, we didn't see that. Unrelated, though, Britt Smith, a very underrated pop singer from the early 2000s, has a song called Karma that is delectable. Recently, she was allowed to release it due to something.

Something unrelated happened. Something unrelated happened, and it was climbing the charts, and I was like, damn, what a classic Timbaland hit. And that's all I'll say about that. And what a... It's remarkable there's no other things involved with that. And also... Who is...

Who even is that? I have never heard those words before. However, I will say something about the song Karma by Britt Smith and only Britt Smith in Timberland. With some very normal, not scary dances associated. Yeah, Britt Smith doesn't have any dances. So I don't know what you're talking about. Nothing scary.

So I love't know what you're talking about So I Love a boy band And I know I was in a One Direction guy I was more of the old school, I was an NSYNC kind of guy Not Backstreet Boys because there was a feud At the time and I chose my side You're a loyal follower

Now however You know the show Glee I do Do you know Artie, the know the show Glee. I do. Do you know Artie, the wheelchair kid from Glee, played by actor Kevin McHale, not NBA player Kevin McHale? And he is, I believe, not in a wheelchair in real life. That's true.

In fact, he was in a boy band called NLT, which stood for Not Like Them, and they have a song called Karma that is also produced by timbaland so am i to believe that in the early 2000s timbaland was just around producing any fucking song called karma let's pull it up nlt karma i don't know if we're gonna get claimed for this wait is it possible at all to ground this as something and maybe our lifestyles that he offered it to one side and then sort of ordered a second Uber Eats, if you will, offered it to another person.

The songwriter, at least, of Brit Smith's Karma, that was also performed recently by another artist who I don't want to shame because they're a young person that I don't want to have a voice in their, you know, coming of age and coming into their own independence. You know, we all do silly things and that's fine.. We all do silly things, and that's fine. Sometimes silly dance. Sometimes silly dance, and it's fine. Speaking of silly dance, I did a silly dance.

So I learned the choreography to this song. And I feel like the lead singer of this band, Travis Garland, should have been a much bigger solo pop star. Wait, that's not the Artie kid? No, Artie, he was the number two. He was the JC Chazet to Travis Garland. Now, I know some people want to say JC is the number one of NSYNC, but it's just how the band is marketed is all I want to say.

Studio line. JoJo, what up, man? What are you doing? What's up, V? I'm in the studio right now about to play a track in about a minute. What's going on? There he is. Whoa, he cleaned up.

This is pre-Glee. He denoted. But JoJo, whatever you do, don't tell anybody, man. No comment. No fucking comment. No fucking comment. Oh no, he's dancing. What if it's in it?

That part? What are the odds that the other song called karma would mention jojo on the radio different jojo it's a 30 year old music it's like a guy it's an LA like disc jockey hey baby let's get lunch sometime one of those guys

you know what's funny when I said disc jockey it means something different than if I had said DJ that's wild, man. That's messed up. All right. 102.7 KISS FM. JoJo on the radio. Guess what I got?

NLT video shoot. Top secret location. Nobody knows what this is happening. Wait. Pause a sec. Rewind slightly. Did he just, did he code switch when he got on the radio? It did feel like heanged it up a little bit

Then again Absolutely understandable What up What's going on What's going on everybody 102.7 JoJo on the radio What up What up gang

Okay hold on With my radio Affirmative I will not leak your location Back to Disc jockey Was a DJ for a second Yeah

Right now 102.7 5 fm los angeles it's the glue guy he you know it's funny and when he has these outfits he looks like that one dude from big bang theory he does With his like popped collars. You promised that you would tell me you were my best friend Was it all for nothing? How could you go Right when I needed you You never showed

Dude, that's a classic by the way, classic edit in one of these music videos is some of the dance, then the close up shot again. There's a really cool dance move that I used to watch. I used to slow it down here. Let's move the couch. This is a part of the dance. I'm just going to turn it out this way. So like, can you see my feet? They're going to, they're about to do a dance.

Take the socks off. That was the coolest thing I'd ever seen before in my life. That kicking move. It's something like this. I don't remember how to... Maybe that's what it was. But what do they do with their arms? Okay. Oh, okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just this. Wait, wait. Hold on. No. You never showed the love that I'm always showing to you. Now you know. Now I'm going to leave you. I almost got it, but I'm going to quit.

I saw the vision. I almost got it. I also am on a rug that's slipping and sliding, so I can't move my feet. Is this the beginning of your boy band audition? It's not the beginning. No, you're in a boy i've always been auditioning jacob can you go ahead pull up um put it in like jojo new york dance clip the whole point of this is that both songs go karma's a bitch like if you keep playing the

other song oh they do yeah yeah can you say that's a boy oh they say trip they do say trip i think there's maybe an uncensored version also this guy travis garland i feel like he had it all. He could have been a star. Whoa, what's going on with the Blues Brother there on the left? That's a fit. Oh, yeah.

The V, I think his name is. Do you think there's like a conspiracy theory out there about this Karma song, Timberland? There's got to be. There's alternate timelines.

I know they're the MCU. I'm sure that that song is going to get claimed because even though that band has been broken up for 20 years and never even released an album uh like capital records still owns them or something yeah we can do it we can do an acapella cover yeah we'll just do a little little part easy there's no instrument so if you're just watching this uh and in it like haphazardly cut around the music it's because i did stop the show to learn relearn the choreography to a 2007 boy band uh dance move of a boy band that never even

released an album just a few singles in a dream there was an album leaked like their album leaked somehow i i had it i have it to this day of all, do you want to guess how many active monthly listeners this band has on Spotify? 300,000. Jordan, I'm going to show you the number and you can reveal it. What is that? It's 14.8. 14,000 people. Wow, wow, wow.

It's so few people. Each of those songs has like over a million plays. For all the diehards, go and listen to it. I want to see that number go up as a result of this episode. But people just, their album, the only way to listen to their full album is to like look at the leaks on YouTube or to be me and have uploaded it to your YouTube music

back in the year 2010. I do have to say though, Jarvis knowing the lyrics of something kind of doesn't mean anything because every once in a while, Jarvis you'll be like what song is this? And then you'll sing the whole song, all lyrics

perfectly. I'm like oh yeah, that's this Devo song or something. And you're like, I maybe have heard it once. You have lyric brain, I have like legend brain. Devo song or something and you're like I don't know why I know that I maybe have heard it once yeah I don't know you have lyric brain I have like

legend brain like being where you like just remember every legend you've ever met yeah I love myth Anastasia you got girl brain

yeah I've got girl brain Anastasia where go I play action figures you play with Barbie yeah it means I play with Barbie

I do laundry I play with laundry play with you play with Barbie yeah it means I play with Barbie I do laundry I play with laundry play with dishes play with the laundry yeah um that is maybe the weakest

uh like boring person sexist zinger I still see from like blue check stuff mark the bingo code

is uh go kitchen make a sandwich or something are you still doing this yeah it's why i'm traveling right now i yeah there's a lot of jokes that i mean between a and d i saw people talking about sports ball discourse oh my lord still doing sports ball did you see harrison butker i think his name is he did did this commencement speech at like a Catholic school.

Yeah. College. Harrison Butker, the football kicker, the football kicker, the NFL kicker for the Kansas City Chiefs. Super Bowl winner. He is a football kicker. It would make more sense. He kicks football.

He does kick the football. But he gave this commencement speech that was like sexist, like racist. Like he was trying to fit as much like horrible stuff in there. Who else did I like? Beep. Beep. Oh, those guys. You, sir.

You were one of them. He said something. The thing that stuck in my brain, because I didn't see the whole speech. I just saw clips or like sections of it. It's the parts you agree with. Yeah. The part I agreed with was when he told the women who just got degrees that their career is unimportant

until they become wives and mothers, and that's their real important career. What's crazy is that his mother is an accomplished physicist. Yeah. Well, yeah, because she was accomplished because she had babies. Also, shout out women in STEM. Also, I know what you're thinking. You're like,

sad boys have nothing in common with Harrison Bucker. Why are they talking about this? And what I have to unfortunately tell you is that Harrison Bucker was the kicker of the Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets. And we overlapped the entire time. Buzz Buzz. He goes to college. You went to college with him? We went to college together, yeah.

Go Bees. I watched him play every week during the football season. And I never heard him speak until just now. Did you make fun of his last name at all? Every single time. The wide-ranging speech also touched on pride, birth control, COVID restrictions, quote, dangerous gender ideologies. It's like a rap god level.

How did he hit all these topics? This is what Tom McDonald thinks he is. Yeah. He doesn't have the cajones to do. Oh, and Catholicolic principles that's vague there's a level of um conservatism like traditional family values that type of thing like not even a political conservatism i just mean like traditional family stuff where it's in religious stuff specifically where it gets to a level where i don't even

understand what they're saying like i don't really know when you say benedictine i don't know what that means it does hit a line or is there like a i don't know it's that line where it's like somebody's kind of you know it's nice to hear about somebody's uh fixation or whatever like you can get it's nice to see passion and then they start talking really specifically about adventure time lol yeah you're like oh homestuck or something and you're like i don't know who these characters is a different language you know that episode of cars a cowdy dog no and also a lot of times people paint this as if it's like saying oh they don't want women and they don't want women in the home anymore they they want them all working and being ceos and it's like we want people to have a choice yeah we want women to do whatever they want yeah to not be like forced into gosh i think what i'd like is to stop having

this conversation yeah i'd like is to stop having this conversation. I'd like for no one to have to do this anymore. Yeah. It's weird how much of a discourse is just around not wanting it. I don't. Trans people are not asking for you to make. They're not asking for you to put up a pride flag at your house. They're asking for you to not like you know endanger their existence yeah prohibit their ability to live the life they want and need to infringe on their what i gotta add i

gotta get a tattoo that says my gender across my teeth no not really i have to get a grill that announces that my both my date of birth and where i am on the gender spectrum not particularly no oh all right i wanted to find this elon tweet i think one of the biggest issues is that nobody wants to hear anyone out or listen work anymore anymore and so like i don't give a fucking flying shit about the new york times but there is this new york times article that was called the racial bias built into photography uh sarah lewis explores the relationship between racism and the camera and i'm like is there a tony stark level genius that might have a take on well yes exactly and i'll tell you just what his take is but like when i see that i go oh okay it's a look through photography over time and like how there's racial biases built

into it much like if you were to take a historical look at anything you can't ignore like um the role that race played in it because even if you even in the most charitable case where you believe that racism no longer exists you tend to believe that it did exist in the past yes so why would you not hear that person out at the very least why would you not just just say huh interesting op-ed i will or won't read it if i don't i certainly won't talk about it yeah but what's interesting about like the elon heads uh and specifically elon is it like and his giant head for as much as they like love intellectualism or at least in theory they don't the aesthetics of it they don't want to hear out anyone else's dissenting thoughts they just like

completely say no that's not real that's you're annoying me stop saying stuff elon said the new woke times is truly unreadable i'm like this is a headline my guy he just means he he can't read yeah he's like he needs a new glasses prescription. It is truly unreadable. I have to pay $5 a month to see the article. This screenshot's blurry. He's like, wait, how did you get a blurry screenshot? What the hell did you do?

He has corrective lenses on his screen. He puts his contact on them. There's no possible scenario where he read that article. Because it's unreadable. Yeah. It's actually, it's been translated into a Caesar cipher. And so you have to actually know the code in order to turn it into non-gobbled. Elon building an enigma machine to try and understand a post,

like just a single Washington Post article. Should we create a newspaper called the New Oak Times kind of is like a good name New Oak Times it kind of sounds like um like um do you lead a New Oak Times but New Oak Times it kind of feels like the name of like a like a backpacker hip-hop album from like the early 2000s like before woke had been like kind of like a like a backpacker hip-hop album from like the early 2000s like before woke had been like kind of turned into like a political word or not no not turned into a like a you know what I mean

it was always it was always like a political word but those new woke times and these no woke rhymes yeah it's like sat at a cafeteria maybe it's just because J. Cole has this all called New York Times um and then he rhymes New York Times with New new york rhymes and i go yeah understood dudes will see this and go yeah and i'm like yeah um yeah a version of how often do you think about the roman legion is like how often do you think about call oh man how often do you check in with mixed tapes there's a lot of jay

cole lyrics i think about a lot there's a lot of bad ones that i try not to think about but then there's a lot of fun ones like when he says like i'm the shit i'm the doo-doo i fart or something like that yeah or and also uh uh ice spice call this a doo-doo line or two no oh plenty i mean he had the he unfortunately had like a kind of transphobic line on uh recent project. That's right. Yeah. And it's like, what are we doing here? And it's like, he hasn't come out and clarified it. I'm willing to give like some benefit of doubt, but it's just like hard to imagine, especially because he has a, he has a lot of lines that, that, that go not a lot, a lot, but like,

you know, like using the F slur and things like that. And it's, you know, I'm not one to like throw the baby out with the bath water but it is uh annoying at the very least i the most generous thing you can say is like it's an old head slip up but even not even so i won't say slip up because i think that that's too giving too much benefit of the doubt but uh i'd say it's intentional it's meant to be smart but it comes off as someone who doesn't have you know uh queer people in their circle and then and then makes um and then makes really like is it attempting to be intellectual and then comes off not bad at all yes you know what i mean making a slip by deliberately

walking on ice yeah it's like when it's like when drake misread uh the lyrics of kendrick's song right so embarrassing how does that happen exactly and that's how i feel when cole said like um i mean there's like a 10 year old lyric with the f slur in it that's just stupid and it's it's not my place to to sort of say like oh i don't feel like it was said with hate or malice but it was said in this other way like it's i can't you know not being a member of that community i can't um really like offer i don't think my opinion should hold water compared to someone else so i mean a single statement from somebody from position of authority we oh yeah no no exactly but it's like when i hear that i'm like don't even try you know what i mean like you could literally it's uh you've walked into it's

it feels to me like um if it's not hate and i i i personally don't believe it's hate like intended to be hate but again it's not my like i don't i'm not the the authority on this but it feels like you're walking into something that you feel like you were equipped to ride above it and like sort of course through it and navigate it in a way uh and you have the hubris to think you can navigate it uh in a way that um somehow doesn't upset uh unintended parties and absolutely you were wrong and it only upset it basically is whack to people who don't care about the issue the the sort of mind that you're stepping on and then for people who do care it's just hateful for no reason it makes you look uninformed yeah that's the thing

i think that's maybe what people underestimate is that like it's being like i don't give a shit is no longer an impressive because it's that stops being impressive when you turn like 22 like i don't even give a damn about anything okay you know what it is it's like when people um think that they're smart enough to use the n-word tastefully but they're white yeah it's words it's all about context and that's you level one is it's just words i'm like yeah of course that's what you think because that's easy yeah it's an easier way to live and you can reconcile that time you you said it to try and impress that one kid at school that like pretended to like again it's like uh it's it's um not my place to speak on um uh as an authority so i can't do that

i i just you know grew up listening to this artist and have like a personal relationship with their music i don't fucking know them from adam i mean i feel fucking this is a way more like severe straightforward no question mark setup but like the journey that ricky gervais has gone on yeah from being the him and steven merchant being my comedy icons when i was a kid to like Stephen Merchant understandably kind of just stepping back from the public eye and just working on his things privately and then playing Caliban in Logan for some reason

then just I have tried to watch every Ricky Gervais special I don't know the last what was it four three that have been horrendous and it's just hack it's just not I don't even care i it's fine i can like try and look at some of this stuff in isolation sometimes i'll see a youtube short of a

comedian that i otherwise don't like and they happen to just find a decent bit in somewhere but he's so upset that he can't it's like it's why conservative comedy generally isn't funny because they just can't they can't uh make like a good button on a joke because they start getting upset and pissed off before they're able to carry the joke all the way like if uh i don't know the papyrus sketch the papyrus sketch from snl instead ryan goes yeah ryan gosling just gets too upset about it to do any jokes about it. He just starts going, it's overused.

What are these young men? Anyway, I don't know. What are we talking about? I have a little question. What's up? I'm good. It was a little question. It was up? How you doing? I'm good. It was a little question.

It was tidy. I'm okay. Four more. I'm passable. I'm a little teapot. I'm short. I'm Jarvis. I'm stout.

I'm stout. My wheels on the bus. Have been better. I think last week was better than this week I've just been having trouble like getting started with just my day like it's so easy to just stay in bed and like not start and then the day's like

mostly gone and I haven't done like half the things I want to do and I'm like ah and um so that's been rough I want to done like half the things I want to do. And I'm like, ah. And so that's been rough. I want to get back to the, I got boxing today. That's been going well. I've been balling, but not as much. So I want to get back at that.

Does that feel like something where you're kind of trading the real estate between, it's like you're at 100% capacity on the activities you're doing and you want to do less boxing, more. No, you know what? I have been doing more activities and that's where I have to give myself credit because a lot of the last few years I've reduced the activities that I'm doing

and I'm just not doing every activity that I want. And I think it's possible and I just have to be patient with myself because I also am still like dealing with everything I was talking about on the previous uh episode so I just have to like be patient that not everything like comes at once uh but you can see progress very literally and I can see progress yeah I um kind of a not huge amount of time true true it's like you know it's a little bit like credit where credit is due i would give that to any friend but it's like hard to like give it to myself sometimes i recently hit up anastasia and was like hey uh can you just like come over

and like work with me in the morning so i can like get a start on my day so i can like get showered and like i don't know potentially out of the house or at least out of my bed yeah um because one of the things that i miss about a normal office job is like getting up and going and then like being out dude it wasn't even like an office office but when we went on that set we were on recently in the morning and even just hanging out in between like the scenes sick i was like doing so much work just on my phone casually because my brain was being activated by ambient socializing yeah no one's yelling or talking too much but everyone's kind of chilling out and i've i've been feel time i've been proud of myself recently because i get a lot of anxiety pre-anxiety about socializing usually my social anxiety occurs in between socializing and not during

that makes sense yeah so it's like i can what do they call it a hangover like a post hanging out well it's even like um like when we were doing you were talking about unpaid intern which we mentioned on the stands and stands episode so i think we can talk about it but uh like when we were doing that the green room for that it was like oh okay i'm socializing i'm socializing i'm socializing and then like there'd be some like dead air and then i'd start to get nervous again about the next oh it's activated it's like uh literally in the hang it's like every social interaction is like uh combat around it's like this different music starts playing it's like boss music and i'm like fuck i'm just talking to slime yeah going to a party and there's a

bunch of chest high walls wait this has to be an encounter i feel like um but i have been doing more socializing uh so i'm proud of myself for that and i've just been doing more things in a day and i think i talked about this before where just like my life became such a hermit version of what it once was when i simultaneously left my normal job and then also the pandemic happened and all of my like socialization skills kind of atrophied yeah and then now I'm starting to rebuild that confidence. It's especially difficult when there's never a, like a Zach, a friend we used to work with.

He says like, we're going to the bar after work. Yeah. Thank you, Zach. I need to rebuild. And you've been helpful for that too. Cause you know,

you've been like, Oh, Hey, we're doing this at this time. And a lot of times that'll be like after i did boxing for example and last year when i was training for creator clash under no circumstance could i go do anything after i did boxing right uh i just have to go home and like sleep or whatever or like order food i wasn't supposed to order um but never too different i talked about that a

little bit maybe on the bonus but like you know some people were giving like well-meaning comments. They're like, oh, it sounds like you need to have snacks that aren't like food. And I'm like, yo, yo, I have them. That's not the issue. The issue isn't availability. The issue is the specific craving for something bad. The craving that only a full pizza can fill. And you know that's not, you know that that's wrong the entire time that you're doing it.

And so you try to create, you know, uh, things that prevent, make it more difficult for that. I would love to eventually like uninstall food apps from my phone. That would be, that,

that would be like ascending to like superhuman or something. Um, but even still, it's like, I've been drinking just water and like liquid IV and coffee, and I haven't had soda in a few months. And I don't feel any different,

but I know that that soda is a vector for me to overconsume. Soda is a very quick kind of mini version of ordering that big pizza maybe. Or not even one soda, but just like, what if I drink a whole 12 pack? And even diet soda is like a gateway drug to that for me like i actually went over to hassan's the other day for did their podcast in like a stream um doing like uh creators for palestine fundraiser stuff

and uh which by the way check it out we'll put a link in the description but it's going so well that's so cool yeah yeah it's been it's been so well. That's so cool. Yeah, yeah. It's been going well. And shout out to Nikki and Chad Chad and Hassan and Stanzi and just like everybody on the admin side who's been helping out a lot. And if any creators, and shout out to all the creators

who've just like reached out to me to get involved. That's been like super cool. And I'm just a connector. i'm not on the admin team i'm just you know helping sigma boosting and just connecting where i can but uh and then lending my time where i can as well so you know i was at hasan's house for this and uh i was like sitting with ted in his kitchen before we like came on and hasan's whole like pantry was full of um it was full of like quest snacks which i think i i saw like a more organized because you know hasan's very regimented sure he's in the military yeah yeah he basically is in the military for streaming where it's like i wake up i i do my and if anything is out of whack then he doesn't know what to do because hey guys i i can't stream today he's like he's like naked bare chest he's like this box is coming up because i gotta do a podcast and

i don't freaking know what to do man i don't how do i what do i do you understand what i'm saying how do i do this but he's so regimented that if he's not streaming and that's a weird day for him but uh he had like all of the like quest foods like the quest peanut butter cups which are really you know they're they're uh like keto peanut butter cups basically but they're really good um i wish it wouldn't tell me do you know what i mean yes i do know what you mean i'm like great and because i was keto for a while not not a lot, but like four months or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Decent enough, helpful in that case. Sure.

But just don't set me up. Don't freaking tell me, dude. If you get like a sweet green salad and then they got those like little treats and stuff. Because if you told me it was like the fancy, if you put it, I need someone to break into my house. Okay. Open all of the like health foods i have and put them in the regular food bags or put them in like a high end if they were like instead of like this is this is the quest protein tortilla chip whole like this is the whole earth god tortilla that's

full of godly ingredients that will make you taste the rainbow or whatever uh become kylie jenner just put a bunch of like uh vegan wet vegan protein powder in a fruit loops box yeah okay cool um so anyway i see like a lot of that i see like a bunch of alkaline water which uh i i don't think there's any science behind it. I just like the taste. And then also every diet soda one can imagine. And then also what I call dad coke or night coke, which is the diet caffeine-free ketamine. It's the diet, you say? Yeah.

It's the diet. It's the gold cans, the diet caffeine-free. Because when you want a little crispy coke at night but you don't want to stay up you got to crack into that i'm just drinking water my liquid iv now and i'm not going to go back to that but uh i was like this would be me if i was able to like keep a schedule like yeah which is you're making all the steps and the progress towards that but that's almost even more for a little bit of time like it's like you start you're making all the steps and the progress towards that but that's almost even more for a little bit of time like it's like you start you're back at the gym yeah and you know that's

the right step to take but also you want to get back to where you were or make the immediate progress because you've reminded yourself what it's like to have made that progress going out and drinking a lot and otherwise i've been eating well. And so I know that like the going out and drinking a lot, isn't the norm, like going on dates and things like that. And so, uh, so I'm like just trying to stay the course because it's not, I need to like identify like what is a forever thing versus what is a habit and a pattern. But one thing that's getting me down that I didn't want to talk about in the interest of vulnerability on sad boys is I wanted to talk about the thumbnail situation because the show has been very successful, but like right now, like thing like analytics are

like a little bit down and that's okay. And that's a normal part of the thing. And yet as we're building and we're learning and it's not a, it's not astopping concern or anything like that. But one thing we are trying to do is figure out how to best position the episodes to get the widest appeal and also the most clicks from my existing audience. Because Jarvis Johnson Gold has a really active audience right now and I would love to like convert like more of those people and because like i have like the the i'm like the youtuber of the bunch and we have like the youtube

podcast yeah like i usually when we have a thumbnail if the podcast just has like three faces and like a color background it's like not gonna that's going to perform default to bad. And so because of us and having the commentary basis, we're always trying to make a commentary thumbnail. And sometimes one of those thumbnails won't have you in it or it will be either just me or just me and the guest. And we're experimenting because we have A-B testing, like a YouTube feature turned on.

And we're trying to see what performs the best we have A-B testing, like a YouTube feature turned on. And we're like trying to see like what performs the best. And on the last episode, for example, one of like we had like a Jarvis and Stans version, a Jarvis and Jordan version, and then like a Jordan and Stans version. And I think the Jarvis and Jordan version, no offense to Stans, was just like performing better because it was more um it was more uh

like normal looking to the average viewer yes we don't we aren't like a regular guest having show that is a common practice like a lot of other shows do the same people want reliability and so like because there is one that didn't have me in it there were like comments where i was like this is the first like mark everybody alert the wiki this is the first one where jordan it's like jordan in the thumbnail whoo he's back baby yeah and i'm like and it's uh and of course that thumbnail is like not performing as well right in quotes right and but it's like this i'm'm torn because, and I did like respond, kind of trying to respond in good faith with some of the people. And they're like, Oh, I just find it weird that

the guests of the pod or excuse me, the host of the podcast aren't always in the thumbnail. And like, I, then I went to like the yards thumbnails and it's like Ludwig only 99% of the time. And the reason is that like, and everyone's eating, like the whole point of ludwig making that show was like i want to make my friends rich you know what i mean and everybody gets gets the gets the vibe um but i think that some people feel like when you're not in the thumbnail uh i'm like cutting you out of the show or something like that but like i think what i wish people understood and what they'll never fully understand and i have to just cope with that and i am not complaining i'm just explaining um and just like sort of talking about my own experience oh it's cool i like that you're talking about it's like it's like um the

like i want the show to be successful and so that everybody is able to get paid and so there can like because we don't have a big, it's not like a, Oh, we like overhired and you know, we have this big office and whatever we like record at my place. We have a pretty lean team. We just want the show to be reasonably successful so that everyone can get paid and we can pay immigration lawyers and we can pay our editors and

everything. Yeah. The mission of this show is to make the lawyers rich yeah no and so it's like it's frustrating because i understand when people are like feel weird about it but then it also makes me feel like our own audience doesn't like me because i'm like uh because like the thumbnails are like oh yay yay, Jordan's in the thumbnail. And I'm like, I know that that's not true. And I know it's just like,

and I know it's just like the D, it's like a sort of deviation from the default, but it is also, we're just like experimenting and trying. And it's like, I spend a lot of time like thinking and strategizing and trying to come up with like ways that we can like sustainably grow the show and its audience base and it's not like we're trying to um grow stratospherically not like we're trying to like 10x growth like grind set or anything like that

we're just trying to keep the keep things up keep things like like normal and um and do that without like always having like a big guest to bring on every, every week and everything's fine and everything has been and will be fine, but it's just, uh, in the interest of like slow, healthy growth and also just wanting to like put on a good show and not worry about it. It's like sometimes like gets to me and I, uh, just figured I'd talk about it mainly to you, but then we also have to do this podcast. So it's like sometimes like gets to me and i uh just figured i'd talk about it mainly to you but then we also have to do this podcast so it's also to the audience oh shit we're live yeah it's just like a thing that has been you know frustrating for me but also it will it will pass and i have

all the support in the world to like navigate that and the team's been amazing so i do think a part of it is um the i'm like the niche interest a little more like uh i think there's sometimes assumption that because you maybe because you have a larger platform significantly larger platform people might be like we gotta we gotta he's the underdog we gotta raise the underdog and you know it's nice enough but i think maybe um honestly i can see a younger version of myself who would be, maybe even have like some pride in it or some just like, well, I gotta make sure I'm in there. I default to it being, not that if I am, it is getting the way of performance, but trusting you and the team as authorities on what will or most likely will perform best. If I'm not in it, I'm like'm like okay i guess we decided this time that

that one's going to perform best and i just care about truly it's just one of the options right and then like we can uh we get the like report after they've like tested all the thumbnails if i felt like i wasn't like it was my presence or experience if the show was diminished or something like that yeah then that would be the thing that was that i found hurtful because it's the next episode it's solo solo jervis oh god if she would have oh my god i would rather expire but the um that would actually be very funny if we just edit in different clips from other episodes oh yeah but i'm wearing different clothes yeah or we just edit together a conversation between us that didn't really happen. But no, I also want to say that like no one's in the wrong.

It's very, I mean, I know the intention. It's like, I think everyone means well. And I don't even want any behavior to change from anyone. Like I'm not asking for that because I don't control anyone. And it's not like, you know, I can just like not look. Right. And just keep on keeping on and i don't think it affects the uh it affects the average listener who's like not writing comments they're just like listening while they like do their art homework or whatever yeah but um i mean i'm so thankful to you and the team and everything for like making this

show my life like it's so it's it is it sometimes it just makes me emotional so i'm gonna be careful about it but like i do it is very weird to me that this is like the priority and that it's such i feel guilty a lot of the time that it's such a low lift for me i do feel like i should be doing more and i and i get why i'm not there's the you know you still so much stuff to do and the things that get in the way whatever but there is like uh i've never felt like i have more of a safety net and anytime it's the reason i i haven't been doing youtube as well it's like i just it's this is discovers it for me but i do want this like uh i'm so blissful with sad boys like it is such a like a mystical thing that exists for me that sometimes when when i spot a comment like that i'm like oh

it's okay it's a little bit like i'm floating because uh it's like not blissful for me, which is okay. Because I'm more than happy to have that role. And I think what I really want is to provide that safety net. You know what I mean? I think the takeaway from anyone who's like, oh, it's a hyper-specific YouTube situation. It's like, something's getting me down. I have to assess what's the reality versus what's the narrative. And then I, you know, can talk to people in my life. I can talk to people who care

about me and know me and my intentions. And also like, uh, and, and then trust that rather than like over indexing on, you know, something that's more representative of like an insecurity than it is a reality yeah it is it's smoke that is without fire exactly yeah yeah oh i i think it's really cool that you're comfortable talking about that i also i get a little frustrated with it not because there's anything like i'm not being wronged in any way but i i do get a little a little bothered by like i don't want me getting jarvis down like my in an abstract way obviously we're doing something but like in a i don't want uh something related to you have an afternoon where my face is associated with like a bad time there's a uh there's a much smaller example of this, which is funny.

Because it's also like you can't control how other people feel about things online. You can't like you can massage it. You can propagandize it as much as you want. But like you can't you're not in control of that narrative. And I think something I talk about in therapy is like the you have to control what you can control and you know your truth right so uh one fun example of this because it is a little bit of growth and progress and it's a little bit uh me up to my old uh misdeeds the misdeeding bastard so like um we did uh this little thing on anthony pedia's channel it was like was like commentary YouTubers I spent a day with or whatever. And it was like me, Chad, Chad, and Sandwich.

And in the Instagram comments, some guy was like, I've seen this guy on my recommended. He's always mad or he's always like just complains about things and there's not any unique takes or substance. And I was like, that's really interesting because I disagree, but I'm curious like what led them to that conclusion. And so I guess it's not phrased very aggressively either. It doesn't. Yeah. And so I'm like, OK, like I'm a little bit like I'll buy it.

Like, what are you talking about because i think even when i started on youtube there was always nuance to like the stuff i was even when i was talking about like content harms and like life hacks and stuff like that i would try to have like nuance even if it was framed in like a negative way because that was the like um packaging of youtube like it was kind of like playing the algorithm at the time and i have to you know make my bed and sleep in it because like that gave me a career basically the um but it doesn't mean there won't be contrast in the content exactly my thought process was always like um you know you come in a certain way based on the thumbnail and then i'm like gonna lull you to sleep with uh context and in gray area but um a little uh abro stop

watch good abro back and forth but I asked them and this is interesting they were like um well you uh were talking about a woman who cleans graves and you said it was a bad thing and she's doing something good and you're just like sitting at home complaining was basically their their take and i was like oh we just disagree oh we just disagree completely yeah like because i don't think the person who's getting the scrub daddy brand deal to like uh clean a grave with chemicals that are not meant for cleaning. Like stone masonry. Yeah. Is, is, uh, and also is like kind of doing, um, like white saviorism to like, uh, Ooh,

um, Rodolfo, what a weird name. Oh, right. You know, like it, I wonder if he had friends you know like like literally it'll be like was she pretty these are the questions i asked no she's dead and and uh and then i also happen to know that they're doing this in puerto rico and that there's this others all these other videos where they're like the beaches are so dirty in puerto rico like and it's things that like okay then i talk to like my friends who are in puerto rico and i'm like oh okay yeah so i think this

person sucks yeah um but without not in a reactionary way in a literal like well thinking about it yeah sorry i think this content sucks let me back oh yeah sure yeah yeah and it's like i think this content sucks and i think this person in the most charitable doesn't fully know like why kind of like the girl who's like working in target for free i think this person in the most charitable doesn't fully know like why kind of like the girl who's like working in target for free i think she means well but like probably doesn't i can absolutely see that sentence being like very charitably received yeah wow she's working in target for free exactly if you give nothing else and then people go why are you complaining about that you know and so uh i'm like, I don't need to explain my videos to this person.

This person has what I perceive to be, they have exhibited poor media literacy. Right. And it's not my job to educate them. Well, I mean, I tried and I didn't meet them where they were at. And it's like, I can just let that be because I have all these people who do get it you know what i mean and of course there are going to be people on the fringes and someone who like feels like what i do is like reductive but then there's also people commenting like oh no that was an era like that was definitely an era for sure but he's changed and i was like okay what are you guys talking about hold on yeah don't tell me that but uh but i think so

telling someone they had an error is kind of because it's like i because also those people haven't seen my videos that are older than that where it's like you can so it's like there's errors but just it's not that it's like i've always kind of i don't think i've my general positions on things have been pretty standard. Like my worldview has been pretty much the same. But I think that's interesting that, you know, I just can't control that narrative and I just have to like, let that go. And that's also why I don't think it's healthy to like search your name up online, which I didn't. But like when stuff shows up in my notifications, I'm sometimes bad about like not looking or like muting everything I should mute and things like that and uh but it's just give

you kudos for this I know like comments or maybe like more the um you you have a and this isn't a criticism really at all you you have a habit of uh engaging with a comment and not dismissing it by the factor of it being a comment. Yeah. And I think it's very, I know it's been a point of conflict for you for a long time. I think it's very cool that that's something you're engaging with critically because to give so much mental real estate to the comment,

which now it sounds like you are instead giving to your relationship with the comment. That's not an easy thing to do. Yeah, I mean, I think it's ultimately I probably it's a little bit like my own inner critic wants to give more credence to like things that are critical of me because i am internally critical of myself and i want to make sure that i'm not missing something like it's always like well i want to do things the right way am i do am i wrong did i miss something and then when someone explains themselves usually i'm like oh okay then we are just like two ships passing this is you know or the language being used was maybe like more severe than yeah yeah but uh i i want i think over over the years i've definitely gotten better um and also gotten better at not like just outright telling someone they're like a doo-doo head or

something um i've never been too too terrible about it and if and if i like i i definitely um responded to one of these sad boys things i'm like i would take myself out of these thumbnails if it was better you know it's like and i i would love to get to a point where i could take myself out of thumbnails but i don't know if that's like ever going to be the case because it's just like kind of the game we play on youtube i don't have any aspirations to be as clickable a face that's not like uh hey you know if i develop a more of a platform we play around with it but i just have no like uh i'm already uh on new game plus to some extent if that makes any sense it's already like uh way more than i could have that i ever intended to have especially like yeah but it's not like a charity to include you to begin with you know what i mean like it's um it it's always the the principal problem that we run

into why there's ever an issue is uh making the thumbnail we don't we're trying we're still trying to like for each thumbnail it's like a different game and it's a different process to try and figure out how to make the most compelling thing because we don't have you know we've been going regularly for a year so we have a good core but uh we're still trying to widen that net and grow and um so we have to like like we can't just do the same thumbnail every time like some people do or we don't have an audio

listener base that like doesn't care about the thumbnail we're still playing that YouTube game in a sense and part of playing that YouTube game is I had to take Lolo and Ole out of the Steve Harvey thumbnail and because it was just performing so poorly and i knew it

wasn't the content's fault sure and that's not even their fault it's not their fault and i relate to this as a consumer yeah i more often than not i'm looking for familiarity and comfort exactly me too you know and it's like and the thing, uh, I know that it doesn't matter because, um, excuse me. I know that it doesn't impact the content because no one bounces off, bounces off the video. They still got the content they wanted, but for whatever reason, the thumbnail communicated to them that it might not be what they want. And if someone has any doubt about whether or not it's going to be the comfort that they want, then they might not click. And so I kind of like went just returned to comfort because it is just the next edition of this series that I've done for a couple of years now. And, uh, I'd say pretty

much everyone that we hang out with or get along with is, is, does not have the kind of ego that would be bothered by that. Yeah. No one cares, which is so funny. It's never the case where someone is like, what the fuck? I care. Cause I don't want to offend anyone and i want it to be the most um the best for everybody right because it's like if more people come through the door then more people will check out these like great creators and friends of mine and if i lead with them maybe fewer people come through that door but uh you know it's like i'm talking to ole about this and she's like dude i change the thumbnail all the time i don't. What are you talking about? Like,

why are you even asking me? And I'm like, no, no, no. I don't want to, I don't want to, who is this?

Also Olay is great. We've been texting more like when, when meet the grams drops, there was a Christmas. We were sending a lot of audio messages to each other, like cackling and laughing. It was a great, it was a great time,

but yeah, long winded, but strong winded dudeed dude yeah you've been farting oh exceptionally strong yeah blew my hair back um i like i know i like us having chats like this because i also makes me like i'm always i guess proudest of the show when we get to talk about stuff oh yeah exactly which combined with like the you know also getting a nice thumbo in and like yeah it's i'm never i'm always going to be so happy about that like a bunch of people's favorite episode also being my favorite episode which is like it's like the two and a half love our yeah sticking around having a good time and we also talk about grief and tear up and it is like and then the uh and then also men are replacing girlfriends yeah there's like everything there

was it here yeah it was and what's crazy about that one no one cares this is like super inside baseball but like um what was funny about that one is that the original thumbnail for it that was the thing where it's like i think we landed on a really good thumbnail and uh the original thumbnail for it was a hundred percent not gonna perform as well so i it sometimes feels like you're in a puzzle where it's like there is an a correct answer you know and that's not always the case like not everything has the same characteristics or has the same audience that it can reach but uh you know there's so many different aspects about like what we do that unfortunately we have to care about the packaging and the marketing and all that jazz because um and also thinking about the audience that we're

reaching and who we're not reaching like um currently we reach like more women than we do men and it's like when we started this podcast like ew yeah cooties when we started this podcast the whole premise of it was to have like be able to talk about our feelings and be vulnerable and like kind of uh lead not lead by example because that sounds very holier than thou but more like add an example to a cacophony of others of like oh hey you know you can have non-toxic male friendships that involve like goofing and also like being vulnerable obviously it it rules that our demographic includes uh oh it's so many women and non-binary people it's awesome and it which is like never the case no one has that that's really cool and i i would love to you know um it's i love getting the feedback of uh this is a type of

guy i don't see a lot and i appreciate appreciate seeing that represented. And then in the flip side, on the rarer occasion, I also love seeing like, I was self-conscious about being this type of guy. And it is like, it's just different. That's the thing where it's like, if there's any goal that I have,

it's simply to add in addition and extend an olive branch to, you know, the younger boy, young man who is kind of figuring out their way and we can share our experiences that might be valuable to that person and if we're not reaching that person it is it's not like we have operation like acquire the boy yeah it's not like we have an operation like acquire the boy yeah it's not like we're not changing the content no no but it's more like a lot of that stuff exists in like packaging and marketing and it's like okay what like what small changes can we make you know because i made a video about r slash true rate me a while back about like the men rating women thing and i got

so many dms from young men when i was vulnerable vulnerable about my own self-image issues and stuff that i was like man like there is something like i i feel like there's something of value that's not reaching some people that could find it valuable and then i just want to figure out how to like bridge that gap no no we don't want to trade anyone or it's like we want like a larger bowl to catch more rainwater yeah and i think people get that because you know like i'm sure that when we because we spend a lot of time talking about like the manosphere and like you know that there are these like young boys who are being targeted predatorily by like kind of snake oil salesmen and the like and so it's like all we're saying is like okay how do we reach reach those people without turning them off from uh how like without compromising on

anything i think there's the jack honte has this talk where he's like um it's called adjust your packaging it's like maybe eight years old at this point six years old and it's literally about like as an artist like you have like the stuff that you care about in inside of this box and then the stuff outside of the box, the stuff that you don't care about and that you can adjust and like packaging, for example, is something I don't, if somebody told me tomorrow you have to make your thumbnails green and that will appeal to everyone.

It currently appeals to, and then also like 16 year old boys in Vancouver that will that will become austin one of our editors um oh yuck oh like great that's a win for everybody green's not my favorite color but i don't care it's like i don't care because that's not a thing like that's not a thing i care about and so i think that's the like from your point about the content like i never want the content to change unless it's something that is coming from like the both of us and from the team and stuff uh but there is considerations being made of like i think it's just a responsibility when you're putting something out into the world it's like who is who does this help who is this for what is this for why is this for you know yeah and it's including work like prior to public publishing and the like,

I feel like working at Patreon definitely felt like a, not to besmirch any other company, but it felt like a more valuable thing to be doing because the people that would benefit from it in large part as consumers and creators felt like people like head about doing well. Exactly. Cause I wouldn't have joined that company if I didn't grow up watching hank and john videos and learn about patreon and be like oh kena grandis is on here oh julia noon's is on here i love those guys actually i do think making like

i do envision me at like 17 18 as the sad boys listener that even though it's not the specific demo no me too it is the show the show's quality is how close it is to what i right that's that's kind of where i'm at too um which i guess the case with any comedy music like whatever your aspiration is you're always going to kind of aim for what your inspirations were but sometimes i think maybe we're not giving ourselves enough credit maybe we're giving ourselves too much credit. Who knows? Be the judge. Let us know in the comments down below. Won't read them.

Unless they're nice. But no, like, you know, some people like find a market and it's like, oh, people in Mexico like my song. Song when I start singing in Spanish and like kind of pivot to that market. Even though like that's not because maybe what i want because i want to be able to perform and to be able to tour and to be able to do this and this is like the fastest way to get me there sure there's no planning for that but i guess that's that's also valid but i think we're in a privileged position to be kind of in charge of our own

destiny in that regard and that's like a very fortunate and beautiful thing and we're very lucky to have it and we're you know very grateful to have it thanks for giving it guys listeners and consumers you little piggies i have a great segue off of this but i want to first ask you how you're doing uh i am all right i'm in one of those periods where time's bleeding together a little and i'm i'm trying to bookmark what is different or what has happened in between episodes. Maybe just, I officially, I'm very happy with friendship meta. I'm very excited about that. I'm trying to get you playing magic. That's my next quest.

Yeah, I got to get on that. I think I really need to get more proactive about sleep because it's always, it's almost like a running joke for a long time where I've had such chronically awful sleep my whole life that now I, I'm accustomed to a certain lifestyle in a bad way. And when I have, I love waking up early, even if my sleep sucked, I love having a morning.

It makes a day feel longer, more fulfilling. I can have half the brain power but if i hop on my laptop at 9 a.m i can get triple as much done it's just the i don't know it's uh i'm honestly a little skeptical about like i'm a night owl and i'm like well it's the easier one so i guess everyone could say that. I know what you mean. Cause I will. So in fairness, I used to be a night owl and then I grew up, dude. No, I, uh, for what something shifted, I started like waking up at the same time and it does take time to like build that habit. And then that became more natural to me than, than staying up right now. I'm in the worst of all worlds where i'm going to sleep at the time

that would allow me to wake up and then i'm still sleeping in so i need to figure out what's going on with that but my doctor's still on maternity leave that's the issue is that it's not really i'm very thankful for the assessments and treatments and and diagnoses that i have connected to so far i'm like i, consider myself very lucky, not only because medical care and utility in the US is very hard, but I'm in a position to do that. But also just very lucky

that I've been set up for success by, turns out, hey, I just got a great psychiatrist. I was not responsible for making that psychiatrist great. That was luck and they put me on the right path,

I feel. Shout out to Special K uh ketamine yeah thanks i had to get him in oh did i say psychiatrist i meant psychology i don't feel like i've really even taken many steps towards figuring sleep out and i think a lot of the time when I was doing full-time carer stuff uh or eight hours ahead of the US as well so talking to anyone also meant staying up late or I think I I broke into a new limit of bad where now my average sleep amount per night is usually about three to four hours and I it it doesn't really matter when I go to sleep it's just kind of like three to four hours and i it it doesn't really matter when i go to sleep it's just kind of like three to four hours and then one day a week i'll sleep for like 14 hours and that is such a bad loop for triggering hypermania and i'm i'm too fatigued for the hypermania to like manifest as

getting hyper focused on making a dnd campaign right right right but with hanging out with people more i'm also much better when um better when Katie's at mine or vice versa. Yeah, yeah. Because she's, you know, neither of us have great sleep routines, but there is an acknowledgement of like, well, that person's tired. I'm also tired. Who are we pretending that wants to stay up right now? But I think habitually I've got this,

I'm very happy with my nighttime medication that really helps me get to sleep and generally makes me feel a little better. But I have an alarm at 11 p.m. to take it. I never take it at 11 because it makes me so, well, not drowsy, but it really does slow me down. And there's this weird part of my brain that associates that with, I don't want to get slowed down. I want to game out. You're like, I need to go fast. And I don't want to game out. And it to game out you're like i need to go fast and i don't want to game at 11 p.m everybody's turning in it's like and then i sit and i'm you know playing like a roguelike so it's the progress i'm making is like there's no story

i'm not absorbing anything in the case of this is hades the best game ever made i am playing the hades 2 beta or early access i'm saving it oh. Oh, nice. I'm saving it. I was so late to Hades 1 and it just, it hit at, what did I play? I played it beginning of 2021, which is,

you know, it was like a bad chunk of time, but playing it like genuinely helped me a lot. So I'm waiting for tragedy. Yeah.

But the, I still have a bunch of things I think I love doing that I just loved doing when I was a kid or were bad habits. Right. Like, I'm going to have like a, I'm going to have some drinks while I game or something. And that's my evening.

And the truth is, is that actually what I'd rather do is work on some video ideas I have. Resolve that comfortably around 10 p.m. if it's just a you know a font of inspiration or whatever pop my little pill 11 p.m. maybe maybe I made a little music instead maybe just did something that didn't have like a task and i really i always wake up for sad like thankfully that's enough like something to push my brain and i think that's another reason it would be nice i'm like that's why i liked about having an office to some extent what i've never been is like properly medicated and do like on the path. I now am these things,

but probably medicated on the path to like improving quality of life and mental health. Yeah. And not some weird job or lifestyle. Right. That like I literally left San Francisco, moved to LA the week after I got diagnosed it was like i'm so curious what jordan could have done at that time in his current setup no regret like it worked out it's not like

i had some like horrible firing or big conflict or something yeah i do this it almost like it's almost like camouflage like i'm happy with my meds. I'm happy with my lifestyle. Like the things that are improving, things that I have been very anxious about for a long time, just continuously reduced for the most part. But I see sleep as such an obvious thing to fix. And I feel so far from having figured it out.

Also, I almost certainly have sleep apnea. And I'm like, that's another thing I have to go fucking figure out. That's how I feel so far from having figured it out. Also, I almost certainly have sleep apnea. And I'm like, that's just another thing I have to go fucking figure out. That's how I feel too. Like I was taking my meds this morning and I'm just like, there's too many of you. Yeah, what is this? Yeah. Well, you take a medication for being ugly. I have to take a lot for that.

But it doesn't work. It doesn't work, but I keep taking it. You take it and it makes you ugly maybe. No work so i i keep but i keep taking it you take it and it makes you ugly maybe no no because then i just stopped taking it that's a really good point yeah why am i taking this yeah this is my ugly i've been doing that every time i've seen eddie recently like every single time i've just been like how like we're just chatting and then he mentioned uh i don't know like being somewhere else in town at one point for something. And I just go like, you're at the Ugly Museum?

Yeah. Which you also own and are in. Yeah. You're the wax. No, you're the wax. No, wait. And you made it. No, but you're in it.

You're the main attraction. You're the main attraction. It's like a circus. And you went to it. It's like an art installation where you're in the glass box and they say, look at Mr. Ugly. You live there maybe what is it i don't i don't like you man you suck i'm gonna kill you uh i have a great segue let me grab my phone have we ever talked about the fact that the guy that invented the segueway died by falling off a cliff? I don't know if we have, but it's a great fact.

Legend. Okay, so the thing I wrote down is, why are we putting potatoes in breakfast burritos? Isn't that insane? That is such a good point. It makes me mad because it feels like they just want to fill me up. And I'm like, you're already going to fill me up. You put eggs and bacon and whatever, what have you in this this do you think that in hash brown form it's more appropriate than i okay the hash brown form it's like i'm of two minds if we're at like a fancy place if we're at

a if we're at like a food truck then by all means hash me up if you put oh wait you said hash browns uh which can mean a couple of things i'm the first thing i imagined was like the sort of uh cylindrical not cylindrical what the fuck shape is that like a mcdonald's hash brown like a mcdonald's like a giant nugget it's kind of there's like the waffle house hash brown also i'm thinking of like those actually the lattice much better the lattice would be the move okay yeah. But today I was eating an otherwise incredible breakfast burrito.

And I just bite into a potato that wasn't the consistency of the rest of the burrito. And it was like a long cylindrical, it was almost like a pickle shape. Are you sure this is a potato? It was a pickle. Did I say potato? And it was a pickle did i say potato oh and it was a

pickle you were eating no it was like there were multiple giant potatoes in there and i was like what's this why is this here and i just forked it out and i go immediately better burrito and i'm sorry if you love potatoes i like potatoes too but you gotta season them pretty hard for them to be good or they've got to be the right softness, the right consistency. Takes a long time. And I don't think we're consistency checking when we're like, because look, eggs have a lot of give, all right? You're going to chomp right through those eggs.

Oh, yeah. But then if the resistance is coming from the potato and the potato is a little chalky. And it's absorbed all the salt. For a breakfast burrito. Eggs. If I'm being honest, if i'm being completely honest because i am a a dirty meat eater and i know you're a vegetarian uh which is cool um if and not

lame if i'm who am i i'm being honest it's like egg bacon maybe some avocado slices hello maybe a little pico um dagayo not pico boulevard yeah yeah you put a little gravel from pico on the um maybe i'm going to pico union to get it from the food truck i used to live near pretty much yeah uh but really a burrito in its entirety is a little indulgent and i've completely just talked myself into tacos instead yes so i am a burrito bitch okay yeah self-described but i do think it is we should say being bastard status is gendered we can be the burrito bastards and you can say we give you the race card no but um i feel like being vegetarian a burrito is better because i don't know i there's something weird than a taco because there's something weird in my brain about like they people just don't the the things that go

in a burrito for a vegetarian are little bits and bobs and it's not like you know strips of meat or something like that or or you know soy riso so where i'm veggie burrito puts too much soy riso. You know what I'm proven wrong though from Homestate. They make great breakfast tacos even for vegetarians and they're perfect.

And their potatoes if you put potatoes in your thing they're little cubey guys which go down much easier than a giant cylindrical, what basically feels like a baked potato inside of my burrito. See, that's wrong. I don't think you, the, for a burrito, a huge problem always is proportions. Like you need everything evenly proportioned throughout the whole cylinder. I want an even bite throughout the whole cylinder.

It's kind of an engine. It's sort of a DEI type situation, would you say? That DEI is ruining burritos? We're forced to put these damn potatoes into this system. Oh, okay, okay. If that were to be said potatoes, I was more of a placeholder for something else. I did say something else, but we're dubbing. But then also, I'm like, why would you want to put immigrants in burritos?

I don't know. And then I'm in trouble. Yeah. Don't put me in there. Though I will say I've recently been going to a little coffee shop. Now, this isn't productive. And one day I hope it will be. The Anastasia and I went to this coffee shop once. We did. And I've been going back.

I've been going back and I've been getting a little coffee and been getting two breakfast tacos. And the breakfast tacos, black beans, some whole, some spread, just a tad. A little cheese, a little pico, two soft-boiled eggs. Not two full soft-boiled, because that would be insane. Like slices. But it's almost like a soft boiled egg

has been quartered, like top down, quartered. So it's like a slice. A spear. A spear, yeah. A spear of... A blade. Yeah, like as if it was a...

It looks like a watermelon slice. You know what I mean? Yes, yeah. So dense enough to know you're biting that. Yes. But still small enough. Soft boiled egg. Very few ingredients in this.

That's it. Actually. I just listed everything. No avocado. No. One more time. Was that meat in there? No meat.

It's a veggie. Anastasia's safe. Anastasia's safe. Can I present? I don't know if this is something that you relate to because you don't. You're afraid. You don't like meat because you're scared. You're a fucking coward.

I'm scared of cows. Ah, give me an iceberg lettuce. I've seen you bite straight into an iceberg lettuce. Yeah, like that, the first Lonely Island sketch on SNL. Sandbergs. It's Will Forte

biting into a head of lettuce. Based on my life. I struggle with the taco. Oh. Because, if it's a breakfast taco, if there's no meat protein in it, it looks unfinished to me. Oh, but the egg has protein.

Oh, I suppose macronutrients wise. Right, right, right. Yes, protein, but meat or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you mean though. Even impossible meat. Right. The bite that I'm having. It's like having a vegetarian only curry where texturally I'm missing a stage, despite the fact that that's sort of the best curry.

Right. With a burrito. I don't know what the fuck's going on in there. I'm having a bite. I like the bite. Why I'm not lost in like, where's the pig? My all time favorite burrito is always going to be the vegetarian mission burrito in san francisco it's a very specific genre of burrito beans rice lettuce cheese uh avocado and pico de gallo a lot of people hate that burrito with a passion because they're like why are you putting rice and lettuce

in my burrito i just want meat and beans and cheese what are you talking about but it's just such a specific burrito that i truly lived on when jarvis and i both lived near each other in the mission um i would who lives there now what's your dress i wish i knew it's some rich rich jerk um but uh i would buy one burrito pretty much every day and eat half of it for lunch and half of it for dinner never been able to do that you're better than I continue it I'm I'm lost I'm two-thirds deep and I'm like why am I giving a third for dinner I mean what am I gonna put this away and then I just eat it all in one bite at the time these were like these burritos cost like $7.50 to $8. Now they're much more expensive.

Crazy. But can you imagine spending like $8 for two meals? Crazy. And I'm like riding my bike everywhere. I was just like not spending any money. I didn't have any money. San Francisco, it's an expensive place to live. Yeah, maybe for you.

Broke ass. Yeah. Broke ass. That's what I'm saying. I was a broke ass. money san francisco it's an expensive place to live yeah maybe for you broke us yeah yes that's what i'm saying that's what i was a broke ass yeah that's what i said no you yeah you're describing okay yeah we agree but and also you were at the ugly museum which is your own and i i was and i i lived there but i was visiting right Right. But I can't go. I'm not allowed. You're too not ugly. You have to be ugly to get in, and you have to look at the ugly people at the ugly museum. Which is you.

Which is just you. Who is there? I'm all of these. Yes. Owner. Operator. I'm curious that you know so much about it. I don't know anything.

It was your idea. You saw a video essay about it. Jacob said it, and what I said was I don't know anything it was your idea you saw a video essay about it jacob said it and i said what i said was i don't even know what that is right initially and then everything after that was something you heard it was i was joking oh is this real you actually go to the ugly music because i didn't even know that was real um also jacob owned it and is the main attraction this is the guy goes no wait so that makes three of us. Three different museums. Oh, three different museums. They're all side by side. Yeah, the mug.

They're like those houses next to the Painted Lady. The goth house and the princess house. Yeah. But it's like one is called the Modern Museum of Ugly. One's called the Ugly Modern Museum. Oh, yeah. One's called the ugly modern museum sure oh yeah you can make called the contemporary ugly but like anastasia worked at the museum i did work at museums was my past life career and so you can make that museum joke it's true that's like you have the past that's

kind of like earlier when i said it was gobbledygook like like a Caesar cipher had been run on it. I don't think anyone in this room knew what I was talking about, but through context clues. There's some of my nerds out there know what a Caesar cipher is. Yeah. It's like when I talk about like having like big muscles

and like being this thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not being able to go to the Ogden Museum. I don't even know what that is. Sometimes it is accidentally out. I've been trying to be cool, but sometimes I out myself with shit like that.

I also, also with shit like I was playing Magic the Gathering yesterday. Yeah, it is accidentally out i've been trying to be cool but sometimes i out myself with shit like that i also also with shit like i was playing magic the gathering yeah sometimes i accidentally i was supposed to go to a party but i didn't because i was knee deep in my fucking i was i was knee deep in my eldrazi commander deck mom leave i'm tapping yeah um should we talk about this man who's written by women yes we should great segue anastasia should we match maybe jacob has prepared a new boy you should worry about your music honestly easier to believe than them actually existing earlier you said something like bring me the boy bring me the boy yeah wait what that's what we need to jacob summon show me boy bring me the boy wait what bring me the boy summon show me boy bring me the boy surf

um um can I oh you have to pee stop so uh Jacob you've prepared a boy

and you gotta stop doing this you baked a boy in the oven and prepared him for us uh tell us about him. Like a sea monkey. Tell us about the boy you've made.

His name is Garrett Nolan. Now, what's it in Chinese? Because I see he's got... Oh, yeah. Yeah, so he's an actor. And this is... Should we see? Yeah.

Underneath actor. Kaizenizen Improvement A concept referring to business activity Oh it's like Rise and Grind Yeah it's like Rise and Grind He's an actor and Kaizen Yeah That's Kaizen

He does a few different types of content And one of them that I think... Yeah, yeah. He's popular. 15 million followers. 14.6 million followers. Yeah, yeah. He's...

I can do that. That's one million times... No, never mind. That's not how that works. He's 10... He's 100,000 times more popular than NLT on Spotify. True. Or he's bigger than them.

Yeah. He's got more views. Wait, because 1,000 times 1,000. No, so it's 10,000. Wait. Math. 1,000 million. So it's 1,000 times more popular.

That's a billion. Because 1,000 times more popular that's a billion because a thousand times a thousand is a million and that's how many he has yes bullshit yeah

if you want to multiply like ones with a bunch of zeros you can just add the number of zeros or you could get a life I'm really sorry man I have to do a shift

at the I'm sad museum a shift at the I'm Sad Museum. A shift? You don't own it, though. He works there part-time. I work there part-time, like right now. Like right now, I'm the only exhibit at the set. Oh, dude, you gotta go. I think your calendar might be wrong,

because I think it's time to work at the Locked In Factory. Oh, no. You've got too many side gigs, I feel like. Wait, hold on. All right, I'm locked in. You've got too many side gigs, I feel like. Wait, hold on. All right, I'm locked in. You're locked in. But yeah, I would say he's Corkor adjacent. Oh, okay.

He does fun little videos. And so we're going to watch a few of them. This one is fun. These are like the concept that was kind of presented was like, this guy's like written by a woman, which is like something that people say when like a man is- Exhibits any amount of sensitivity. Yeah, it's not scary.

The bar is so low. It must be written by a woman, I saw a tear fall from it. It's like an Uber driver not trying to hold a woman's hand. They're like, this Uber driver's maybe really progressive. A guy asks his girlfriend why she's crying. Oh my God, best boyfriend ever. Is this Superman? Written by a woman is just like shows interest

and isn't mean. Yeah. Asked you a question, doesn't have their own answer ready to go. Right, right, right, right. So this is, these are a few of his um like more like supposed to be like romantic videos yeah it does oh it's like hugging a sad lady their apartment and then in the hallway,

she like fell on him. So she fell into kind of an embrace and then he, he checked her against the wall. Yeah. He football tackled her in a wall. Love, love. What's wrong? Is that what he's doing? He's like, ohled her in a wall. Love. Love, what's wrong? Is that what he's doing? He's like,

oh, I love. Is he like calling her love? Yeah, I think he's calling her love. But he's not doing it in a way that like feels natural. Love. Hey, love. Love.

Do we do that here? No. I mean, occasionally you hear someone. You have to have the right swag. Like my love maybe, right? Yeah. You have to have it

with the right twang, the right swag. It'd be really funny if he was super cockney. Come here. Come here. Come here. He doesn't have to keep it. What the hell? Oh, she's good.

It looks like he just did like a sleeper move. A stealth takedown. And then she just collapses on the ground. Shh, be quiet, quiet, quiet, quiet. Yeah, okay. All right, quiet, quiet. Yeah, okay. Alright, now he's got her in submission. Hey. What's wrong?

I just really need you. I'm here. You have me. Kind of looks like Wolverine. Wait, sorry, back up. What did he say? He said, you have me. And I'll hold you here until you feel better

maybe not here yeah in the hall maybe not in the hall like can i go to i would rather be in my apartment maybe like yeah i'm not to backseat romance but excuse me love i'm like maybe we unlock the door we go back in private so she can have a little dignity me i mean outside of the hallway of this um apartment complex hey it's it's everyone's social dynamics are different depending on the status of your relationship the things that you've set up for one another but if i did this we were like hey how are you okay yeah everything's fine are you okay like leave her alone everything's fine. Are you okay? Leave her alone. Everything's fine. Oh, no.

He ragdolled. Early on in his TikTok career, he did a lot of thirst traps of him. Because I guess he was in the Marines or something. Awesome. Or I don't know if he was, but he had a uniform. What's the Marines written by? I don't know if he was, but he had muscles. What's the Marines written by a woman? like had muscles yeah what's the marines written

by a woman the avengers or something yeah i think that's yeah uh star trek it's the tiny it's the tiny captain america before he got the yeah when bucky has to defend him no he holds a little trash bin that's a weird part in that movie you've seen the first one where he just holds a trash can lid at one point like he knows he's going to be Captain America. This feels right. Now that gives me an idea. And he gets the shit beaten out of him. I understood that reference.

Okay. All right. So we've got Hugh Jackman here. Hey, bub. Hey, love. Which is to say he's very attractive. He's a huge act man. Because he acts and he's huge. And he acts in the military. Muscle wise. Muscle wise he's huge attractive. He's a huge act man. Because he acts and he's huge. And he acted in the military. Muscle wise.

Muscle wise, he's huge. And he's making her smaller. He lives in the big muscle man museum. Party of one. This is how Wolverine would do a stealth takedown, by the way. Snicked through something against the wall. Yeah. Hey, bub.

Hey, love. His adamantine bangs. What's wrong? I'll show you what's wrong. I'll show you what's wrong. I do what the best, I'm the best at what I do, which is be Wolverine or whatever his quote is. It is kind of weird

how ineffectual her responses are. Yeah, she kind of seems like genuinely nothing was wrong, and then she kept asking, she was like, no, no. Okay, yeah, let's hang out here in a public area. Actually come to think of it. Alright, let's hang out here in a public area, actually, come to think of it.

All right, let's see. That felt a little too much of a make-out kiss. Yeah, a wet forehead kiss. Damn. Was this written by an X-Man? What do the comments say i swear this stuff only happens in movies with this is him replying with the right dose of patience and love we can emit this kind of energy onto others but it sure is powerful which is why it might be hard for us to sustain this

he talks like he's in the X-Men. Thanks, Charles. With the right dose of patience and love, we can emit this kind of energy onto others. Garrett always wanted to build bridges. But it sure is powerful, which is why it might be hard to sustain for us at all times.

And then the Magneto is like a misogynist guy. He can control women. Oh my god, I would love some kind of like TikTok X-Men situation. Oh yeah. Where it's like. Like those Pete Holmes sketches from. Oh yeah. George Basil is Wolverine.

Yeah. All right. Let's, let's keep going. What's the next one? Set it up. This one. He discovers what love is. Oh, fuck yeah.

Hell yeah. I want to know what love is. Oh, he's at the love museum i'm gonna be honest with you man i'm gonna be 100 honest with you oh thanks i really like this girl i like it i i just i feel like i need this girl to be a part of my life they don't imagine it's going this direction so far might be a murderer just all the all the same setup i would say or like just took a stimulant and or a line of coke I need this girl

this is coke setup except instead of talking about like something as profound as love it would just be like we should start a band that's rock but also a podcast what about new new metal where it's rap over uh fucking indie music

and stranger-a and stranger-a things. Stranger-a things. She's so strange. Old Sheldon. It's like Lake Overhead, man. And me to be a part of hers. I'm just obsessed over this girl. I don't think she has any idea.

I have this feeling that I can't control. And I keep losing the feeling. I have this feeling that I can't control. And I keep using these feelings. I have this feeling that I can't control. He's holding a knife. I know we've already set this up, but it feels again like his energy is that of like he just got bit by a radioactive spider. I can't control it. I can't control it. I'm getting these senses.

It's like the first time Wolverine's claws pop out. Come to me and I will help you, I will help you hone your abilities. I will guide you, and then he's doing this. Yeah. I will guide you through. I will guide you through. Ah, bub, look at my frigging hands. I'm not remembering the exact lines from the X-Men.

I think Wolverine does say, look at my frigging hands. Look at my frigging hands. Ouch. Owie. Fuck. Does it hurt every time? More like ow-demantine. Ouchie.

Why do I know what this medal is? I play a lot of RuneScape, so that's kind of higher than Mithril. Okay. And I keep choosing this feeling for her over anything and everything else. Red flag. That's Gary to me. Yeah, she doesn't know. Blink.

She doesn't know, so relax. Hey, pal. Blink once. Please blink challenge. What the fuck is this feeling? Oh, he literally doesn't know. Oh, he literally doesn't know what love is. Come here.

Come here. Oh, my God. He just slapped him in the... Was that a real slap? I don't know. love is. Oh, my God. He just slapped him in the... Was that a real slap? Come here. That was how it... Come here. Come here.

It looked kind of real. It looks real. Oh! Blew his hair back. Yeah, he does it. Respect. Okay. He's a real actor.

Method, yeah. Yeah, and then like Kintsugi. What was the... Rise and grind. Yeah, the method is mania you're a fool that's magneto yeah you're a fool for not trusting in your mutant brothers and as he like lifts toad up and closes his head off. He's got that high voice. You're a fool. You'll never understand what I know.

And then he tries to- What I know about the feelings you're feeling. Tries to grab this little like goblin guy and then just teleports behind him. Come closer. You shall never know the truth. What the hell, bub? Don't trust anything you hear or see. Bub, look at my claws.

Can't you see you're in love? He's an alien i mean he's just from space it's if someone did a like a cgi edit where he's like having like super saiyan powers that come out he's like starting it's like starting to flow through him i'm in love yeah do that scene where uh sleaze uh sleaze i was about to call him he's got a yes le, where Frieza slaps the shit out of Goku. Come closer. Come closer, monkey. What you're feeling is love.

The feeling is love. And I've not even reached my final form. I've got a bunch of girlfriends. Yeah. Yes! He's gonna jump out the window. I truly thought he was gonna jump out the window. I'm in love! bunch of girlfriends. Yeah. Yes. He's going to jump out the window.

I truly thought he was going to jump out the window. I'm in love! He just floats away. Okay. I'm in love! I hate it. If she doesn't know how you feel, and I hope that maybe he miscommunicated that,

because if she doesn't know how you feel and you're shouting, I'm in love from the rooftops, scary energy, I think. Yeah, not quite where we're at that level of celebration yet. If the, by the way, the determining factors of how in love he was are, I keep choosing, I choose everything else over her

and I'm thinking about her all the time. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest. I have friends who've had that happen where they were like lightly dating somebody or talking to somebody. And then they immediately jumped to, I'm in love. I'm thinking about you all the time. And they're like, oh, I need to get out of this. And they're like, you don't understand.

I'm outside right now because of love. I have to say as the resident woman who could, if I chose to write a man. I want to know what love is. That was just me genuinely asking. I want you to show me. I feel like there is a weird belief that women want this intensity. And that's not true.

Like this is scary.'s a shut up dude this is for the boys okay um i'm love and you're nagging me what if he killed him he slapped him so hard he just if someone if i was dating someone and like i want someone to like communicate with me you know and be like okay what are you feeling where are we at you know before you're in love with me maybe we say hey i like you yeah hey let's hang out i do feel as though like a lot of like written by x i wonder if this resonates with you that like it's it's an overused term overused discourse whatever but it the male gaze is like it just the fact that he like slapping him was a part of it yeah it feels performative in a way that is a little too self-conscious yeah about appearing

feminine right in the conversation it's not i'm feeling this profound feeling whatever instead it's i am i'm an alpha tiger and i can't stop thinking about the my pride my bride i'm obsessed with her i'm out of control i feel like he's the maker my wife type thing yeah yes and like where it's like she doesn't have agency in that i don't feel i feel like that's a man writing for a woman that feels very... Do you have a piece of media that resonates with you? A man writing for a woman who thinks he's writing a woman writing a man. Okay, so I'm going to say something that I'm embarrassed about, but it's fine. I do read romances on occasion.

Okay. And they're really popular right now. And so a lot of friends have like recommended them to me. When I was younger, it was like Jane Austen stuff. And as I've gotten older and as these have gotten more and more popular, I'm like, okay, I'm going to read. And I just like reading in general. So I'm going to read these romances and some of them I'm immediately like, Ooh, I don't want to read this because it is written by a woman. And the main male character is someone who is like, you're mine or something. I'm like,

Ooh, I don't want that. You know, all of this goes back to like rom-com movies where it's like Gary Marshall or whatever, like whoever was making rom-coms where it's like right gary marshall or whatever like whoever was making rom-coms in like the 80s yeah there's only so originally you can be when the format of your story is a xerox of a xerox of a xerox yeah and there's huge tropes that happen again and again and i and this guy garrett whatever his name is he's just um mimicking those things it seems like where it's like i want to scream it

from a mountain that i love this person it's like cool but i actually don't want this yeah i would like i'm so in love that i have no impulse control i'm like oh no oh no that's not good oh oh all right so this next one's called in another life makes me think of the Katy Perry song in another life How do I look do I look okay? You look beautiful What's his normal voice on that? I just Track you look beautiful

It's like he's trying to sound cool. Hey, Bob. Hey, you look beautiful. This is what I talk like all the time. Wow. I just got my powers. I'm releasing my energy blast. I just learned what love is. I want you to show me. I screamed it from the rooftops. I broke into your house.

I was so in love. Couldn't control myself. I stole the radio out of your car because i love you so much and here it is what are you doing that's just a compliment oh i can't stop looking at you can i oh okay oh no is there something any more romantic than um largely unbreaking eye contact i mean i look i eye contact, but it's just like the delivery of it. Yeah. Like looking at you and then it's just like, what are you doing? It's the eye contact with body turned away camouflage.

I can't stop looking at you. It's like if you said anything with that if you go I love you versus I love you I will have you it's like if you said your wedding vows in that voice if it sound till death you part and then she does the thing which my except for you do it with your claws snicked okay i just gotta say i do think there's again something to like there are two very separate things obviously between uh like sexual dynamics and and this in that like you know we watched that clip of the girl that wanted like a chin lift up by a sword it's self-aware it's just kind of like a performance right yeah it's like uh because

gender performance is an indulgence and like you know media porn etc is like very influential on real life kink and dynamics but that is a little like how wearing a white dress for a wedding has some pretty uncomfortable implications from what it used to represent but if everyone's self-aware about it no one cares let them wear a white dress well and it's like there are lots of people who are like this is fantasy and that's great and i know that it's different from reality and that's not what i want in reality, but it is what I want in fantasy. Great. Yes.

Yeah, for sure. I think, yeah, absolutely. I think the framing of this is romance and as like, I don't know, this is actually what women want. I want your love and I want your revenge. I want your love. Is that true? Thinking of you.

Wanting to spend every moment of my life In your presence You can't say these things Oh You know what I'm saying Okay so she's with someone else and he's being like weird But that's romance I just feel like there's a different way to navigate it

I'm not saying you can't express your love If someone's with someone else But I feel like you gotta be very careful And just take no for an answer If she's like you can't express your love if someone's with someone else, but I feel like you got to be very careful. And just take no for an answer if she's like, you can't be saying these things. What's wrong? Nothing. What's wrong?

Let me wrestle you. What's wrong? Because if nothing's wrong, that is extremely inappropriate. Sleeping no jutsu. What's wrong? It's over. It's over. It's over. Freeze off.

Okay. You're not as selfish as what I'm about to say. Don't go there. Oh, you're about to get more selfish? You only need to hear it once. Don't go there. She was like, don't walk into the next frame. Like, I'm not looking that way.

I love you. And it's because I love you. That's such a good point. I can't be selfish with you. You can't, but you just are. You just were. It's because I love you that I can't be just friends with you. I can't be selfish with you. You can't, but you just are. You just were. It's because I love you that I can't be just friends with you. I can't be selfish.

What do you want me to say? He's being selfish, though. What do you want me to say? That's a great question. What do you mean you can't be selfish? Because I love you, I can't be selfish with you. I have to be selfless and harass you. But I have to be with you all the time.

You have to quit your job. Yes. And break up with your partner. There's so many songs about being selfish because you want to be with you all the time. You have to quit your job. Yes. And break up with your partner. Stop being selfish. There's so many songs about being selfish because you want to be with the person. That is selfish. I want the partner you're with right now to feel bad and be compromised because I want to be with you. There's an NSYNC song on Celebrity.

You can call me selfish, but all I want is your love. All right. I just want you to know why I have to love you in silence. What? Is the music getting louder? I know I love you, right? Why is he walking around like that? That's why she has to say it back because he's like, you know, I love you, right?

Yeah. And I'm blocking all the directions. You're surrounded. Yeah. Maybe it's four different guys. There's four of them, yeah. It's cutting to different versions of him. That's his mutant power.

Never to her. Yeah, no, we never see her in this one. Maybe she's ugly, dude. Okay, hold on. Maybe she's working at the Ugly Museum. Which you made a new film. You would know a lot about that, huh? That's where you were born to.

I do. I'm a curator at the Ugly Museum. Wait, you know I love you. Wait, she said, oh, wait, hold on. I missed a big important thing. You know I love you. Wait, she said. Oh, wait, hold on. I missed a big important thing. You know I love you, right? You know I love you, right?

Just not the way that I love you. Uncompromisingly. Scarily. Just not the way that I love you. Yeah. I won't expound upon that further. Yeah. Please do.

Please explain that. And not the way no one will ever love you again and uh you know i love you but not in the way that you love me because love is not equal i love you like a wolf loves a rabbit he's about to eat i love you like a serial killer that i am would kill you with a gun so i want to get to the most delicious cringe here. Okay, here, I'm leaning back. Wait, did I fuck up the shot? Let me know if I'm still in frame here.

Yeah, that's true. We're locking in, but leaning back. That was too loud. So then I became the quiet one. I showed too much, too much emotion the audio listener

he's leaning he's in his car jealous leaning against his wheel this is why during Christmas yeah this is just telling me

that like his employer needs to give him longer lunch breaks yeah and like not working to the bone he's sleeping in his car he's talking to himself

this is just a cry for help he's in biz cash he's in funeral biz cash he's always in black he's in funeral because he's talking to himself this is just a cry for help he's in biz cash he's in funeral biz cash he's always in black he's he's in funeral because he's mourning the relationship oh gene gray was just killed oh yeah rough spoil does he know the phoenix force will bring him back looks like a nice car oh it is when i tried to talk again, no one listened to me. Yeah, see, I was worried for a second that he was like crazy, but now he's yelling to himself. Yeah, I was worried about that.

But now he's the sanest man you know. Listen, listen! Everyone said I was crazy! Snick, bub! Raggedy doo! When I show emotion, it's nighttime. Now I'm dramatic. Yeah, you are.

Dude, wait. Also, showing emotion is different from like yelling uncontrollably. He's literally doing, he flipped from Marvel to DC. Now he's just the Joker. Like, when I showed emotion, you have a choice. You said that I, you didn't listen. And he's like cutting the commissioner's face. I'll steal the Hope Diamond.

I'll show you who to listen to. And he's dressed like Jared Leto's Joker. He is. I stayed in myself. He just ate a cherry lollipop. See through it. That cut did not need to happen. What?

What? Nobody ever. Nobody ever does what? Wait, so that cut, by the way, that scene change, was going to the other side of his body to show the action shot of him dropping his jacket. Yeah, okay, so he's taking off his jacket. But where does he put it?

We're facing his left-hand side now. And then it cuts to his right-hand side just to watch him drop the jacket. Because otherwise you wonder where the jacket went. Yeah, that's important to the scene and the emotion of it. That's why he started his car, so you know how he got home. One of my favorite comments on this one was something

like he said, I want to cuddle with this man right now. Pro sounds like a somewhat reasonable joker. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now you have a choice. Whatever you want. I don't mind.

My father was very supportive. Nice guy. Worked too much. But to support me. I feel like. Taught me a lot of lessons. Written by a woman. This video actually is kind of a good example

of the difference between like expressing your emotion in a healthy way and like raging or dumping your emotion out. That's what I mean. I feel like at best this is, I know it literally written by a woman, but i feel like at best this is uh it's i know it literally written by a woman but i feel like uh it is like presented as this this is like this is the ideal guy this is what you want it's like no this is what you want in a movie yeah it's like john wick is the ideal

man when you have to kill russians yeah he's not like a good hang really he's kind of weird he might like stab you i don't know it depends on russian you are it's not yeah but he is that's not like actually what you want you don't actually want to be with wolverine cyclops is like he's relaxed like he's not yelling and snicketing no and his eyes are cool yeah wolverine can't express himself emotionally and he's old it's like 100 years old he's in the Revolutionary War. Hopefully on the right side. They don't show the right flashbacks. Wait, he was British?

He's Canadian, right? He's Canadian. Oh, Civil War also. But he just went to America because he's a good guy. Well, just one thing about him also is he does non-romantic ones and sometimes he pretends to be like an addict calling his mom and stuff. It's like, I don't know if we want to watch those, but I'm just bringing them up as like the problematic ones.

Does that say fake POW? Yeah. Oh, wait, hold on. We got to watch that. I think we should watch these two. Okay, sure. The last one's really quick. You didn't have to betray me.

It's too late. You should have joined us. What happened? You't have to betray me it's too late you should have joined us what happened to right and wrong it's too late my turn okay so this is a while ago here whoa badass kick in wait what okay wait what happened to the guy who was just in the in the zip you got tired fleece zip really tired these two guys are in combat armor the wait go back this is non-work like that like what happened to that guy isn't that the first guy he would target also that guy is like super clean until he got spit on that's really rude that's not nice yeah oh he breaks the he Oh, he was only being held by a zip tie. Also, that's a weird shot.

Is that supposed to just be like, this will be training? It's a shot of him boxing. Wait, that's cool. That's like in an anime where it goes back to his practice. Yeah, in sepia. Or it goes to... It's like a wolf fang fist. Like Yamcha is like...

And you see the cut to the wolf before he goes... Cool, cool. Nice. Yeah. fang fist like yamcha is like and you see the cut to the wolf before he like guys yeah cool cool nice yeah the guy just gives him the gun that's fun yeah because he almost hit him i do love in close and this happens in every action movie there's a guy in close quarters with a gun who could shoot and just decides not to hey what are you doing over here waiting until he's done with the last guy yeah exactly like in the beekeeper he really wants to make sure he hits him you know like because what if he fired the gun and it misses you only get one bullet in the gun that's true one shell rifle yeah one shot do not miss your chance to blow that's what that's about tiktok premium acting for you 2021 that's why his hair is so short okay and he has no tattoos but that was wait was he in the military now i'm

thinking about it I think he was But I You know I can't confirm that I don't have those kinds of I'll reach out to my client That kind of clearance This is just a role

I'm not allowed to talk about my time as an operator He's super duper fit Wow He's like a John Krasinski type Still fits Ha ha Oh yeah No he's in his little military uniform

Cute See as a former military man myself I don't like it when people kind of brag about it, you know what I mean? Yeah. He was the guy, I don't know if you ever saw these, where he would sing with his cat in his arms. Oh. Wait, 64 million?

Oh my god. Oh wait, the cat calms down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How much is an island boy? Yeah. No one listens. He was super popular for that. But yeah.

Okay. Look, he's doing his thing. He's doing his thing. He's doing I'm just an island boy. Yeah. I, no one listens. But yeah. Okay. Look, he's doing his thing. It's,

I mean, I don't like the acting ones. I think they're kind of silly, but whatever. It's, it's, it's just, I think the only thing I,

I don't find it even like a bad shit. Wait, can we look at guys raised by their dad? Oh. Guys raised by their dad. Cool. Guys raised by their dad. Oh,

I've seen this one. Yeah, they wear black clothes and like, like very emotionally detached. Guys raised by their dad. Cool. Oh, I've seen this one. Yeah, they wear black clothes and they're very emotionally detached. Guys raised by their mom are foreboding in nature. And guys raised by their dad wear hats. T-shirt. Boys, top comment. Boys raised by their moms, but not mama's boys. There's a definite difference.

Yeah. One of them dresses like a necromancer i love all the comments being like they're gonna love this yeah that's meant i'll post that yeah this hits control yourselves is the you know what it is it's like just so i mean i don't it's Just so, I mean, I shouldn't apply this automatically, but there's so much really predatory, like performance masculinity stuff. That's something I get self-conscious about sometimes. Like I don't ever want it to seem like,

well, I'm just, yeah, I'm not like the other guys. Like I'm a soft guy. It's like, I do plenty of toxic masculine. It's it, the toxic, toxic, masculine stuff is always going to intuitively feel good for me because it's like, it's imbued,

right? You're fighting against your instincts. I still care a lot about like, if there is a guy taller than me in the space and girls are around, I'm just, yeah, well, no, I just, it's too noticeable, you know? Like being in the military, which you weren't.

You kind of always talk about that. Well, I wasn't in like the military. Right. You were also not in a military. You were kind of. I was doing. You were just a guy. I was ready.

You came here to do sales. Right, yeah. But it was like a different kind of it's like selling and you used to wear neon camo right so that i could not be found at the club so that i could assassinate people at a german nightclub yeah all right so that's uh we got a wrap for today because i got to go to a gi appointment and uh generally on you got me on uh sad boys museum sad boys today uh i'm gonna be replaced it's gonna be jordan and anastasia oh and sad boys nights yes sad boys nights um and so as we teased at the beginning of the show we have uh our new branding that we want to show you

so we're going to put some images on the screen we've got new album art new new social banners and things like that new colors iconography um some like thumbnails on our highlights channel will look a little different but overall it's like something that we own some branding that we can print in stickers and on shirts if we ever want to and yada yada maybe keep an eye out in the near future for news regarding that as well. Yeah, maybe. Maybe on the Patreon we'll have some even more sneak peeks. And hypothetically, if we were ever to sell merch, the Patreon people would be the first to know

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where you can listen to Sad Boys Nights. We've got a million bajillion episodes. Don't count, but there's a lot. And they're all like 45 minutes to an hour. And usually it's me and Jordan and potentially our guest. But today it's going to be Jordan and Anastasia because I have to go to the gastroenterologist. Woo!

Woo! The butt doctor. Yeah. We don't have to explain why, you know. And so, yeah, we end every episode of Sad Boys with a particular phrase. We love you. And we're sorry.

Yeah. Who wants to go to the Four Seasons Orlando? Me! God, that's wild. Is it a long baby or is it a underdressed toddler? That baby is fully sentient. It's fully conscious. And it is the start of a new evolution of humans that will begin once he starts procreating.

Fuck, within a generation, there's going to be so many kids that can go, me! Me! Stay looking at future girl. Future girl. Yeah, we on now. Take my money. Go away. All you wanted. Girl, you're too rich for me.