Sad Boyz - Rage Bait, Or Marketing Genius?

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

The boys discuss the best emoticons, Nick Sparks' (of Black. White. fame) TikTok videos, Brendan Abernathy ("You'll be married in a year in the suburbs"), and where cringe comes from. Submit a question for a new Pen Palz: Advice segment! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Over 100 Bonus Episodes: Sad Boyz Nightz⁠⁠⁠⁠ ✨⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Find Us Everywhere⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠✨ 00:00:00 Welcome to Sad Boyz 00:01:47 Feelings 00:04:27 Help Us Find Peeps' Voice 00:05:47 Emoticons & Emojis 00:17:35 How about that weather?! 00:19:53 Nick Sparks is on TikTok 00:45:03 Brendan Abernathy 00:51:39 Inspecting Our Cringe 01:13:26 Sad Boyz Nigthz 116 CREW: Hosted by ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jarvis Johnson⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jordan Adika⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Produced & Edited by Jacob Skoda Produced by Anastasia Vigo Thumbnail design by @yungmcskrt Outro music by @prod.typhoon & @ysoblank

Welcome to sad boys podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. I'm Jordan controversial controversial controversial take Boom date statement in the form of a question to be defensive if I get in trouble on Twitter But ultimately obviously is what I think one of those right classic if you are someone that is adamantly against Picking your nose under all circumstances Then isn't your nose just friggin full of stuff. Yeah, it is who are you lying to I yeah, I don't I'm I'm pro picking your nose in private obviously not with a tissue for a little insurance with a tissue, but Man, I kind of want to take a camera up there. Oh

Do like a it look like cave spelunking This is a that's a I do apologize for that tough opening everybody, but yeah, I'm sorry if you hate truth I guess yeah, oh, we're kind of pro truth That was close That was close Yeah, we should say I brought back the stacom's hat that I accidentally brought home That's a time because I know it's good some people and to see me wearing a red baseball cap Really even with that type. I feel like at a glance I know this is just like a red hat with a white like mesh back

But maybe they hit you with the, you know sometimes people have like, Make America Gay Again or something on the hat, but at range it's just a MAGA cap. This could have the same effect where they're like, oh it's like, just a Stackebs hat. This is like outside of a basketball game when someone's selling the worst counterfeit like merch you've ever seen in your life.

Oh yeah. It was like, it's like a photo, it's a glossy photo taped to a t-shirt. The Chicago Bulls. Yeah. But B-U-L-Z. What's up dude, how's it going? It's been better, but I'm balling Benny Way.

Oh, bowling Benny Way. I, dude, I'm so bad. But it's okay. I had a psychiatrist appointment today and I was describing something to them and they're like, yeah I mean that just sounds like anxious depression and I was like, yeah Yeah, yeah, I think we agree What do I do?

Somebody reminding you it's almost like if we like I had a second one minute went like yeah I've been this is gonna sound insane. I've been like holding this microphone on Wednesdays. Look where you have a podcast This is gonna sound insane. I've been like holding this microphone on Wednesdays. Like well you have a podcast I've had for years. Yes. Oh, I got him but But you know what onward and upward I'm doing stuff I'm setting up appointments my psych did me a solid and she was like, is it too much to say? I'll wait here and you set up that appointment right now. And I was like, honestly, honestly high five. Nothing's ever been too less. That was very nice of you to do. That's a three pointer from outside of the arena. Yeah. It was incredible. Yeah. It was a, it was a fan from the stand. It was a dude. Perfect trick.

Yeah. It was a trick shot. That's such a, I mean, we've talked about, you told me that the body doubling is it. Oh yeah. Body doubling. Yeah. Well you share space for the purpose of like, I feel like I was here. You told me that body doubling is it? Oh, yeah body doubling. Well, yeah, well you Yeah, but for the purpose of like I feel like I was here You go to physical you go to space you go space Which I guess you kind of do because you really are like a Katy Perry in the way that I'm in space But I don't I I think cynically especially when we were selling an office I heard that kind of stuff referenced as like accountability sure it's like well like, well, you're with someone. Oh, accountability partner. Yeah. Whereas I kind of like the more intuitive social emotional element of it's just,

it's, it's body doubling and there's something a little bit mystical about it. There's something just when it's right, it's right. We don't need to get, you don't need to figure that science out. For people who don't know it is literally just what it sounds like. You sit near one another or share a space in some way. Even the same building, I guess. Yeah, co-working, it just has that effect by default. But when working alone, it helps to just have

a warm body present for whatever reason. I don't know the science, but I just know it's helpful. We had a little co-working day here the other day. We booked some, some travel, some exciting things are coming up. I guess we'll reveal them when they, when it, when it, when comes time. If you, if I don't know if you deserve it, frankly, but I, we will though, cause I guess, well, I'm not going to do it. I'm going to grab my emotional support pillow

Now I feel better. I want to I'm spirit bomb affection in the comments for Peeps who is here but has having some Some throat pain. Oh, no Mostly non vocal but they're doing Big gestures and hopping up and down on vocal, but they're doing big gestures and hopping up and down to showcase how they're feeling. Inside of the seat, right?

And it's like heart, that's just so that we notice because they're so small. Oh, now they're sad. They're walking back and forth like George Michael in the rest of development. Next time I'll set up a light so we can see Peep's silhouette on the back wall. We should find like royalty.

We should find like royalty. We should find royalty free, like images of, um, like microscopic organisms, like moving. And it's like live peeps cam and it's like, a little tardigrade floating around. Um, why does it sound like that? Why is it British? Haven't we kind of surpassed that technology? Is that to make Jordan comfortable? Wait, who was that?

Yeah, now we've reached a point in AI where if someone uses a bad text to speech, just like having a green text bubble, it's like, ugh. There is something to it where it's like, you know, using a emoticon instead of an emoji almost to be like, oh, this is like a retro emotion you're sharing. Oh right. It's rough around the edges, like pixel art. Ascii style. Yeah. I like, uh, if I'm sending a genuinely affectionate message, I think I'm ending that with a colon close bracket sideways.

I'm ending mine with, I have a voice app that can read this if you'd like. Send from my iPad. Send from my, yeah. I can talk, I don't wanna do it too much. Don't do it. No, too late, I'm yappin'. But I like using emoticons more than emojis.

Unless it's like the nodding emoji, I like that one a lot. But if I'm using emoticons, it can't be closed parentheses. It has to be the bracket because the parentheses one looks threatening to me. Interesting. Oh, I was using British terminology. What's a bracket? The bracket is square one. Bracket is the right angles.

What the hell do we call it? That one? Because we call the closed. That's actually I like that there's I mean aluminum Well, no angle bracket is this actually you call a parentheses bracket angle bracket is the other term for greater than less You know what though the comments might inform me that I just had a bad education That's also possible I'm a little good fool when peeps joined our group chat I'm a little good fool. When peeps joined our group chat,

they were the first person I had ever seen use the salute emoticon, and I didn't know what it was for a couple of days. Oh really? Salute emoticon is like- It's basically 07. Yeah. Oh, 07's good.

I mainly, yeah, 07 is a classic. That feels Twitch chat cool. But I use salute, or also IRC. I don't know. Yeah, you're right. It's like very old school, but I use the salute emoji a lot. I like that. It communicates a lot of information.

The emoji is good. I like that half his face is still going off. Because to me, I feel like the salute emoji solves the passive aggression problem with the thumbs up emoji. Yes, sir. But with the clarity of like professionalism. sir, but with the clarity of professionalism. Absolutely, and I'm behind you 100% of the way.

The thumbs up emoji is even questionable. Thumbs up emoji stresses me out. It's a step in the right direction, but still. I'm like, why are you mad at me? Thumbs up emoji gives me as much stress as if someone hit me with a K. Oh yeah, they're the same to me. Because back in my day, there was a window of time

where people used Facebook Messenger. I don't know if anyone remembers this. I certainly used it. And there was a, if you just tap the button, it would give the thumbs up and you could hold it to make a bigger thumbs up. I hated it. That thumbs up pissed me off.

Every single, someone hit me with a thumbs up, I wanted to do something and I didn't know what to do. I didn't know what emoji to send back to show my rage. No, I'm a I'm big into right now. In fact, always ever since Patreon slack era. Okay. You remember what Ellie would use all the time? I don't know what you use all the time. Ellie's emoji that she would use to kind of indicate if someone just does like a really noticeable typo

or something that makes no sense or something was just the thinking. Oh, thinking. I really enjoy a thinking. I used thinking a lot in Slack because I would want people to know that I wasn't making a declarative statement about like something we should do professionally,

but I was more opposing an idea. But like for example, if, I can only think of passive aggressive examples. Like if you like leave the food out and then it's like, maybe we should refrigerate the food. That's tough. Yeah, whoops, fuck. I thought for a second that I did already say something

about using my milk. Oh yeah, maybe it's, I can only do it passive aggressively by it. I thought for a second that I did already say something about using my maybe it's I can only do it Passively aggressively by I guess I'm a stupid asshole. I mean, I don't recall saying maybe you don't be a stupid asshole That I'll be like Mad at someone enough or like being feel passive aggressive enough to do this but hitting someone with the specific emoji that says, okay Oh, That's crazy. That's a pretty funny word. The emoji that says okay is like, I would expect someone to call me after that

and be like, hey are we good? I took the time to search for the okay emoji instead of typing okay, that's crazy. That's funny. If I'm feeling whimsical enough. I used to do this a lot and then I was like, no that's cringe, but now I'm back to it. Is the colon three.

Oh yeah, colon three. I've been using that a lot. That's one that I will never use it, but I accept it. It's more my fault. There's like colors I don't wear as much or styles of clothes I don't wear as much because a younger version of me

that I identify less with did. No, colon three is, and don't take any offense to this, it's for people who say meow. Yeah, it's raw core. It's for people who say or type meow in mid conversation. It's for people who say meow. Yeah. It's raw core. It's for people who say or type meow in mid conversation. It's for I love you and dinosaur mindset. Yeah. I mean. Which, fuck me up. At one point in time, I'm as guilty as anyone.

I think that's why I stopped using it as much, but I feel like now it's shifted to where that one is more normalized, but if you use like XD or like X three, that's like dinosaur. That's like what pad. Yeah. That's a lot of that shit. That's like when the like African warlords will mix gunpowder with cocaine. I have never seen an X three on the,

on the safer work internet. X3 working together. Yeah, it's great. The thunderbolts. That being said, when's the last time you hit colon P? Cause that one fell off pretty hard. Oh, last night. Okay, relax.

You're different. You're built different. Colon P I think was me killed by two things. One, it was not as legible as the other stuff, I think. What is it communicating? It's a little bit of that. And yeah, what is the connotation of it? Because I would say we fixed that.

Do you have a thought? With somewhere between this, somewhere between rolling laughing, and somewhere between upside down smiling. That's the spectrum that it does not serve anywhere. I feel like most of the time I use it, it's in the context of like, I don't know. I like that. Like if someone's like, no I don't know a specific example actually, but I'd say it's from a J.

If you're in a silly goofy mood. Right, when you're in a silly goofy mood. It's the same people in three. What about the equals for nice beautiful long eyes? I hate those. Okay. Equals is a little bit... Equals feels like it's an emoticon from 1963.

Equals... uh... Parency... don't like it. Or people that include like a dash for a nose? No. A dash for a nose is some like jigsaw shit to me. That's something my like 70 year old uncle would do. Yeah. It's for our forefathers who invented a motor car. That's one of those things where I understand why that, it's a little bit like when extended members of my family

will use the term colored, because they heard that big people of color is good now. I understand why you do it intuitively, but without the context or the education, it doesn't go for place of maliciousness. They just, well, black is fine, so is black's fine? Well, it seems like it would be. Oh yeah, see, I get it seems like it would be,

because unless you, if English is your second language, good luck, because those are syntactically the same concept. And it's like, but color, people, people of color. Eyes, mouth, we're not doing the nose? I'm like, no, I know, it looks like you would, because it's a face. So one that's interesting to me,

before we move on to a couple of things that'll be fun, which is Nick from Black White, the young teen who I think is our age, actually, in real life, is on TikTok, and I'm so curious, I haven't looked, I've been avoiding it, but anyway, I wanna talk about the laughing emoji because regular laughing emoji, it's whatever.

Rotated laughing emoji, it's whatever. For some reason, and I can't remember who started doing this, I knew somebody who would hit me with like regular laughing emoji three times and then rotated laughing emoji three times and those together, choosing to use both is very funny to me like I genuinely Laugh out and I do not know why it's three boobs

Yeah, they're descending into it like Badness they're like really having a good time I'm a big on my I think equivalent of an equals then a nose then a three like something truly chaotic My, I think, equivalent of an equals, then a nos, then a three, like something truly chaotic would probably be the smiling, open mouth, open eyes. Long eyes or just like the dots? The long eyes. Hi. Oh, wait.

You gonna go to sleep? Not tonight. I use that for when it's a situation where I'm like, what the hell? What do you mean? That's someone knocking on my bedroom floor window on the second floor. Like, hi. In the genre of colon three saying meow, it's using the like angle brackets, like the sharp. Yes.

Or anything or but or and this is where I've used this, but I can't remember the last time I did it. It's the It's the it would be that it's the carrot. Oh as the as the eyes and then When it goes into true elaborate multi paragraph ASCII mechanics. Yeah, or like people used to use like the shrug Yeah, I used to have that copy and paste ready. You saw the shrug full ass Middle school high school, dude I used to have that copy and paste ready. You used to. Oh, the shrug full ASCII shrug. With the one of these? I had that ready in middle school, high school.

Dude, that was ready to go. I did make my own shortcut because I couldn't find what the default term was. I made my own shortcut for the new-ish one that's smiling, eyes weeping open. Like this one, the one that's like, Oh yeah. Pixar face. I might still have I know where I have like a bunch of those. Oh dear. Oh Man, you just reminded me of

The table flip the table flip is like something I haven't thought about since 2013 Oh, dude, we um, okay We're not gonna say who cuz it won't it wouldn't get back to them But they are like semi forward-facing figure let me know if it's okay to share the table me and London No, somebody that like this is a relatively old back-and-forth they were having but we found a Twitter exchange They were having and it was like semi flirtatious, and they posted the rage comics version of the flip table. Yeah, you know this one Yeah Devastating we but I think we talked about that for weeks these are Rage comics version of the foot table. Yeah, you know this one Yeah Devastating we but I think we talked about that for weeks. These are

Yeah, there's a phone number at the end which is very interesting Stop me somebody's I've never seen before in my life. There's one of these it's like a shrug But it's like maybe a devil or like a horned interest. What What's happening there? Peeps' table flip is using a kanji as the nose instead of the defaults. Or like a Chinese like character or something. It's, yeah, it's, I'm now realizing, yeah, this is like a hiragana no, and then I don't know what character that I is,

and then it's a character I don't know what it is, but it's definitely a Chinese care. It's on no way For no, no, no, no, no, no me. They're about to fight. This is not good podcasting. Um, it'll be on screen That's arms doesn't know look like arms. See you somebody doing this and like yeah Yes, what the hell? All right hell what is going on here this one is like too simple to be here the one that's like the degrees symbol and like yeah it's that that man is so that phone honestly that list open and the fact that you have a Pokemon card in the back of your case there is kind of like a that's almost like the hieroglyph for peeps.

That's like the summer. It's also like why I feel like I can fit you in my pocket. Like it's not about your physical stature, it's about all of the things that come with it. You're portable to be sure. You could be hidden inside a chef's hat. I've been doing Celsius to Fahrenheit conversions lately. I've been popping off.

I wanna, okay, hold on. Look up the weather in Fahrenheit. I'm doing this live I haven't done this before there's the one we have here and then tell me what the the weather is in Fahrenheit I'll try to convert it to Celsius today. It is 72 degrees 72 degrees Minus 32 that's 40 times 5 over 9 well It's like roughly 25 nine well uh it's like roughly uh 25 uh wait 72 that's that's that's all right i said 40 divided by two notes no it's 20 but it's 21 less wait is it more or less than 20 so 21 is what

i'm gonna say oh so 22 that's well close enough well i i didn't even do i just guessed but that i did well you if you yeah, you definitely develop an intuition. I Don't have that and so I've been having to converse with Canadians and they say that the temperature and I go What the fuck are you talking? It's probably so much more relevant for them I feel like if you're a Canadian talking about the weather is probably the equivalent of talking about like the fires or something I've been enjoying talking about the weather lately. I kind of get it I kind of get why people do small talk you You think it's because we're in our dirty thirties? Like now we're talking weather? Cause it is interesting.

Yeah. I feel like it's not fair to be stigmatized for talking about the entire like place. You're in it. You are in it. Yeah, like yesterday. I'm allowed to talk about it. It's been like pretty hot. But then yesterday it randomly started pouring and we had like like marble sized hail. What the fuck is going on?

I was imagining not marble size. It was like slightly smaller than that. I can't remember the pea size. It was unreasonably visibly sized. It was even saw it on the ground. That was like, I know it felt like we had traveled. Yeah. It's like I've seen hail before, but it's just like, it was like super duper. But then I looked and apparently we had like some crazy storm coming through. Oh, fuck. Yeah. A storm. Another thing that's happening. Yeah. Is dry lightning when there's lightning but no rain? Okay. Whoa. I don't know that. I do understand why older civilizations had to make gods for this stuff because it seems even now I'm not a meteorologist, certainly, but I am a skeptic. Not anymore.

Skeptic about meteorology? I lost my, uh, I lost my license as a meteorologist. Nick from black white is on Tik Tok and that's all I know. Nicholas Sparks. Nicholas Sparks. Great name. Isn't that, wait hold on. Isn't that like a romance author? Nicholas Sparks is like a romance author or a young adult author. What's that one? It's called like the nice place. The house.

The house near water. The house on the hill. The notebook? The spiral bound college rule. That's the one, yeah. It's British. It changed. Writing pad. The paper. I love the writing pad, dude. That was a great film.

I cry every time that they hug in the rain something the journal page Okay, let's just well. I mean Jacob. Do you have anything to say to lead us into this um? No, all right awesome. I can do one of my segues okay Okay, the pressure's on gonna, but I'm okay so first of all no one can hear you don't be nervous, okay? Everything's okay. No one's judging you no one can hear you, don't be nervous, okay? Everything's okay, no one's judging you, no one can hear you right now. Everyone took their headphones off. Okay, here we go.

Do people enjoy this podcast? Yeah, it's all right. I'm being honest. Segway, here it comes. Showtime. Leave a thumbs up or a thumbs down? I love, I actually, showtime rules. Yeah, that's true.

Showtime. Venmo me if you enjoy the show. No. Okay. I request So yeah Nick Sparks he was the teen in black white from 2006 yeah one What describe which teenager the one that he was the black one hey hell yeah waiter describe which teenager? The one that- He was the black one.

Hell yeah. Waiter. He was, you're right. He was. I don't see that coming. He had the apple on his head. I will say- That's right, the legendary image.

He relatively does not have very many followers. And a lot of his content is like sports stuff. But he was posting about the show and interacting with people who had questions about the show for a while, which is the interesting part to us. Yeah. Did you see in his bio what his job is?

That's the tech at Tesla. Oh, is he like a, he works on like, like the technical team? Yeah, something like that. That's cool. Or maybe it's just something he likes. I know he works at Tesla. Respect.

Jacob said no joking around. And there's some more about that in one of these videos that is what he's up to now. It's such a normie username. I like that. I'm sure plenty of the people already know, but we have a hallowed series where we watched all of a show called Black Period, White Period, which we highly recommend. You've probably seen it. And it's entirely the fault of producers and none of the,

none of the participants who all seem very, except for Bruno. He made bold choices, but they come on it. Well, no, it did. As someone that might go bald. I want to be sensitive to the community. Unlike Bruno. I, he, he does not speak for all of us. He went to show about a black family, a white family. We lived together in the house from Pee-wee's Playhouse. The worst day of our lives.

A random house in LA. And they, ooh, what could happen? The white family is connected to the production, or they at least know people. And then the black family had to interview about why they were the best minorities to be involved. Yeah, are they model? You know, do they care? And then the black family had to interview about why they were the best minorities to be involved Are they that they bottle you know to me? Yeah, and then they do and then the family was like the sparks family was very like I felt

Real like they felt very grounded very like true to life despite the fact that they had to do whiteface and the other family had to do blackface, which is not that the other family wasn't it's just that Bruno is a working actor and And not that the other family wasn't, it's just that Bruno is a working actor and Carmen was his partner at the time, but not actually, they weren't like an actual family unit. They were all theatrical at heart. And I think that kind of in a show about, you know, supposedly, oh, let's have some real discussions and considerations about race and culture having one half of it be a cartoon And then the other half be a relatively authentic family. That's like a little confused by the production. Well, yeah, that's a weirdness Also, there's like teenagers like minors during the production Who harbor no blame for any of this because they're just They literally are just along for the ride. Our favorite characters are Dick and Rose in this show.

Yeah. And Rose has a podcast and I don't know what she's up to. We'll have to check in on her soon. Pray that she's thriving. But then Nick is posting so and he's posting about the show. So let's watch. So this question goes, it's coming from Nick Google. And this question was, how was school after the show and if I

got any more acting gigs. One on the acting gig, you know, I didn't do any type of acting. I did some like modeling here and there, but I never got into the acting. But school wise, of course, I think at that time was my space and everything. So of course, you know, the friends and everything hit you up at the show aired in 2006. But I didn't after the show, I didn't go back to school because I got expelled. So I ended up going to military school. And military school, nobody knew about the show until like towards the end of the show. When I had to leave,

cause I actually had to leave military school and go do Oprah. Was invited to the Oprah show. Oh wow. Yeah, we found out that he got expelled from school in the show, right? Cause there was like some weird stuff that went down. His friend gave him a weapon or something to hold on to.

And his friend's knife in his bag. Yeah. And he makes sure to clarify that the friend was Asian. I don't know why that contributed to it. But anyway, he goes to military school. He's referring to Oprah, which is a now like deleted from existence episode of Oprah. In my mind, it's lost media

because I haven't been able to find it because I wanted to back when we were covering the show they did like a reunion show on Oprah and There is a there is a very much does not hold up to the test of time Thing called like the great race machine or something and it turns Oprah into a bunch of different races Like on the there's like an article. Yeah, here it is. Oh, yeah, it's this. I'm not kidding. For a second, my, my, my dumb boy broken brain for a second went like, Whoa, like the machine for Stefana Kell, she steps

inside it and a white woman comes out. I mean, look at, so this is like how far AI has come, I guess. But but like look at that photo. Yeah Like it doesn't these are different people This was a meme though remember back when like here's me if I was a different race like wasn't that like a snapchat meme that was Undercooked snapchat me this is deep Yeah, what okay? So now we're caught up to speed on this very strange episode of Oprah that I would very much like to view if anyone can figure out where it is. Any heroes in there?

I'm sure, the funny thing is these days when some media goes missing from let's say the last 10 years or so, we can always sort of rely on the archivists. They're like a class, like paladins in the modern day, but I just can't imagine anyone outside of the production having the foresight to be like, I'll keep hold, I'll back up this episode of Oprah. So I'm really hoping somebody just- So the truth of the matter, because I've consumed a lot of stories about how lost media is found

I guarantee you that there is someone like my aunt Who is out there who VHS recorded every episode of Oprah and it's on a VHS tape And they don't know anything about lost media. They need a nephew to turn up and they need a nephew who's on 4chan They need a nephew to turn up and they need a nephew who's on fortune Here's something and then that person will get us the VHS tape digitized And then we'll have to kind of put it away from four chains It turns out that guy's or we can make a call out to the aunties of America if you did record Oprah on VHS tape back in 2006

Bless you looking for the Black White Reunion episode. If you're able to provide that to us, you will get, I don't know, probably like, we'll give you a kidney or something. We are in this room, we have so many kidneys ready to go. Ready to go is a stretch. Size, you want to... Any size. Four blood types probably.

Somebody told me that blood type the other day. I'm like, you know your blood type? I didn't realize that it was a little like, unintuitive to get that blood type the other day. I'm like, you know your blood type? I didn't realize that it was a little like unintuitive to get your blood type because I asked my doctor if they knew my blood type and it's like, well, we don't normally test for it with all of our normal things that when we look at your blood.

And I was like, oh, cause it's like only relevant if you're like donating it. I'd keep an eye out there, you know? Yeah, and so I was like, damn, well, I kind of want to know but it was cool The love and everything was cool. I mean shit a few times, you know, I went out to eat and I didn't have to pay for shit You know, yeah, come to the table like a the food was on the house type shit So I mean it was um, that's cool. Just enjoyed the moment, but I never after that I've never pursued

Cool. Just enjoyed the moment, but I never, after that I've never pursued the acting thing. And I think the main reason was because during the show, just the cameras, it was like there's no privacy. It's just cameras everywhere. Yeah. I think at that time it bothered me a lot because I liked my privacy. Right. Every time you look up camera point that when I was modeling, I did get offered from this one to there's a movie to New York. They wanted me to do the try TV shows or whatever I'm acting up there. But the only thing about it was at

that time I had to they wanted me to lose my my speech my southern draw and talk proper or as black people say, talking white, but had to lose my draw. So I took a speech class for like a year and wow, you know, my southern accent is so, it's so heavy. It was just hard to lose it for me and it is what it is. You know, you just move on, find other things to do and enjoy life. move on, find other things to do and enjoy life. That's such a crazy command. He has such a cool outlook, but I also wanna say, I feel like we will see stories like this more

as kids who, because now it's far more common, there's gonna be a lot more kids that were just always on camera. Growing up, like family vlog type situations. Even self-elected just on TikTok, just posting a lot of that. Or self-elected on TikTok, and now, you know, having a full adult, like he's our age,

like being able to speak to that with like a fully developed brain is- Full, full brain, full, everything's there. Full, full brain, the whole thing's there, one would hope. I'm very curious to hear more of those stories because I can only imagine what it's like to not be able to avoid the cameras that are always pointing at you.

I just can't, I remember watching the Truman Show for the first time did to my brain. Just the possibility that I'm being looked at outside. Actually, I mean, that, what are we just playing, the Truman Show? I think we both have the same self-consciousness that's part regular self-consciousness, but also part general anxiety,

is that, I think we talked about it recently to that streamer, whatever we had, sir. General anxiety. Commander fear, thank you. There is, ah, commander bipolar. You've returned. No one's ever looking at you as much as you worry that they would be.

But then one in a thousand times, you do something embarrassing in eyeline, or I mean, in our case, sometimes, we are on camera, so we get a comment on it, but that's pretty rare. It's more about like, you're hanging out with someone and you just do something kind of stupid. Oh, then that lives. That's a scar.

I have my own problems, but I think that a lot of them are more chemical than like environmental. And I consider that a privilege, like environmental, and I consider that a privilege. But one of the things that I'm really grateful for is like having any sort of audience after I was in the. Yeah, yeah. And because there's certain things that I can brush off, also being a guy, like a six one by the way,

like guy who's not ever concerned about their physical safety, like on average. I go to a public place, I leave, I might get DMs being like, I saw you. I saw you at the place, and I didn't wanna say hi or something. But like, that's a well-meaning person, but there is a element to that that's like, I'm outside. And that's a well-meaning person. But there is an element to that that's like,

I'm always being watched. And it's not like, oh, I'm so big and known. It just added a greater percentage chance. Right, but it's like, I'm already self-conscious about doing anything out in the real world when there's no one watching. And so having in the back of your head that anyone might be watching, especially when you're younger

and you have less to grasp on to in terms of what like normal is. Like I can only imagine like what that's like for you. Especially if you're not, you're right in that it is about like being fully developed and ready for that. But then also, I don't know, I think I'm always fearful of someone even consuming content from a couple of years ago of me, or even just seeing a post on Instagram, anything from a version of myself that I relate to less, because I don't want that person as like an advocate for me. That version of Jordan Adika from the past is a really, is a bad lawyer. I don't want him going out and pleading my case. I'd rather come directly to me. And that, having that at like a scale

related to your career as well, like it's part of your job to have that kind of stuff up, having that at a scale where your entire life or essential parts of your life are permanently archived and known publicly. And I, like, you know, we're being charitable, we're being charitable with Nick here, cause it's like, yep, he's a person and we respect him and I, like, you know, we're being charitable with Nick here, because it's like, yep, he's a person,

and we respect him and all that. He's a person, he was a kid during the show, and he, I think he's giving us the gift of sharing some of these things from behind the scenes when he doesn't have a lot to gain from it. He, it was before the social media era, so like, while he's sure he had some MySpace friends or whatever, but it's not like something

that he was able to take with him for the rest of his career. He's doing something completely outside of the entertainment industry now. And he doesn't have a big audience. So I would never wanna send any bad energy his way and more just kind of give him a shout out for even like sharing some of this,

sharing some of this stuff. I mean we have friends that have talked on the show, actually on pop zappos, but it just in general about like finding success or posting things publicly relatively early in their twenties and in late teens. And there's something that that's like the exact point in time where I felt I shifted from like, okay, which thing's going to give me self-esteem. You start picking stuff a little more like you're new young girl. Like I don't, I don't even know who I am. And then you start to get a very slight inclination and you go like,

am I like a career caring guy? Am I a family guy? Look, am I stewy? It all starts to look like a woman, by a woman. And then you can kind of like fuck it up. Like you can pick something for yourself and not be ready to adjust or change. And he had some like turbulent stuff that even was like kind of exposed

and made public by virtue of being on the show. Yeah, at the time, I mean, even the thing we said about school, but like I don't envy, and at the time I did, I really don't envy like, in your teen years or really early 20s, some kind of like, super developmental period for some something in your life, even if you're just transitioning out of becoming an adult into the real world, whatever, I really don't envy people getting a part of them locked there. I think it's similar. And I'm not saying this cynically,

I have plenty of very happy couples like this, but I think it's similar to marrying your childhood sweetheart. Absolutely, it can and often does work out. It's not so much breakup that I'm cynical about. It's more so a like, okay, that is an avenue of personal experience that is now closed.

That's just something. You are now frozen with this. And it's fine. And there's plenty of other things to like grow and change with, but it's sort of like, I just, I don't really watch a lot of anime anymore. I was like, okay, anime that there's a version of my life where I watched anime and I'm out of it. But that thing is closed now. And like the opportunity to find self-esteem or self-fulfillment in something that isn't public kind of may be closed now and like the opportunity to find self-esteem or self-fulfillment in something that isn't public kind of may be closed now because you when you

you know it's like if you you I don't know we're really into a certain sport when you're like 20 and then you hurt your knee you can't do it anymore and it's like well fuck what do I like what do I care who am I now People that leave college don't play football anymore or something. Yeah, anything that kind of robs you of the opportunity to redefine yourself and grow, because that's the thing that's constantly happening in life, that if you have to kind of be frozen

in some sort of people's perception as a person that you were, it sucks. So today on Facebook, I find out the show I did, Black White, in some sort of people's perception as a person that you were. It sucks. Because my co-workers at Tesla found the shit like a week or two ago So they you know, they've been joking with me and shit at work or whatnot so now to see it on tick tock and everybody saying it is a Because the recognition is nice. It's cool I'm an adult now so I can speak freely like the daughter Rose she was great The two guys Bruno and Carmen. It's been a few times we was filming. I thought my dad and my stepmom was gonna beat the

So nervous by the way, it's like the girl rose and I was like, huh, he was like she was cool The brutal brutal and really is oh Man, I will say that this is a few years ago. Someone must have sent this to me But it is very cathartic to see it There's something so funny about like they've got is that like cartoon and human angle where everything's hyper real obviously in especially in this era of reality TV, but somebody's sitting back and me like yeah, I wanted to kick their fucking ass Yeah, they were annoying. I thought my parents were gonna beat their ass. That's awesome. That's so funny So did I I mean? Yeah, literally no, it's crazy what Bruno got away with on that show. Hello my fellow Negroes. Yeah wasn't it it was

There's just some of the shit they said and did was just like fucking extra as hell just like I Don't know. I can't explain. This shit was weird. Y'all really gotta watch this shit, but fucking them two is fucking weird as fuck, bro. I'm just gonna be honest. Fuck him. Fuck him.

Fuck him. Fuck him. Jesus. I think he said fuck him. Oh, that's awesome. That's awesome. Oh man. I do like how he was like, I can speak freely,

so fuck him. Dude, I wanna text him. I do like how he's like I can speak freely. So fuck him, dude I want to I want to text him. I want to just ask him details I have so I'm if he doesn't want to talk about it. I get it. Yeah, but I'm also like man He's so funny. I just want to ask him about the apple. Yeah We gotta know cuz it is really funny that that would be such a funny throwaway bit It's like you say I want to ask him about the apple. Then we cut to a zoom goal. Oh, dude.

It was just like, so what was the deal with the apple? It was like, I just did some shit. So the cool thing about my makeup was at one of the times I was there, Brad Pitt was there filming Mr. and Mrs. Smith. So his nose is static for his nose. They took it off him and put it on me for my makeup. And I thought that was cool. I got to wear Brad Pitt's nose

Why are these not these are insane they got your nose dim dude This is he literally go this should have more views you gotta go you gotta elaborate right what other parts of the face Yeah, what's he up to now? I mean we know he works at Tesla, but I want to hear in his words How much they they they crackerized his eyebrows in the show? They really thinned him down even when he's not in the makeup and then now powerful dude also Regardless of how you feel about Elon or Tesla or whatever people are working a job like don't I? Like hope do not misplace any of your energy towards Someone who's just like working, just doing their job.

We have no idea what he does. And also, you know, don't yell at the customer service worker when you hate Bezos, right? Right. Being mean to the grocery store worker isn't sticking it to the man. They also wish it was better. I imagine he really wishes people didn't hate the brand. So Network Nix asked me to do a follow-up of how life is going for me and my own fam from Black White on FX that was shot. So he's the one who's been posting the parts of all the videos on his page. So it shouts out to Network Nix. If you haven't followed him, follow him. So my dad and my stepmom they are divorced they're not together anymore um my

stepmom renee she's still in atlanta um living there my dad he just recently moved uh phoenix arizona and me i'm out here in california um i I work for Tesla. I'm a maintenance robotics technician. Work for Tesla. Hopefully, I'll be transferring to our new plant in Austin, Texas. But, yeah, everybody's doing good. Everybody's still talking about it. We still talk about it.

We still look back at it. It was a good experience for the most part. And the main question that we always used to get was, do we ever keep in contact with the Wurgl family and fuck no. We never talked to them. I think the last time we probably seen them was when we were on Oprah. Oprah Winfrey show and she had us out there discussing the show when the show came out and I think that was like 2006. Rose the daughter she was great was great. She was like me. Where she grew up was a melting pot, same way I was in Atlanta. It was a melting pot. So we had, you know, everybody black,

white, Asian, Hispanics. At that time, of course, we never, it wasn't a race thing for us. We seen everybody for who they were. The parents on the other hand, Bruno and Carmen, it was just a lot of ignorance. And they rubbed my my I mean, you know, they rubbed my parents the wrong way plenty of times not just on camera With off of camera, you know, I think that was the main reason why I met you know after the show They biggest thing was like no, there was no need to talk to them The foot would you do whatever reason but we did keep in contact with a lot of other people, other executive producers, um, kept in contact with Q when Q used to come to Atlanta or he had events in Atlanta, he invited us out. Kept in touch with his, you know, executive producers.

That's a crazy thing as a teenager. Imagine that. And so everybody's still, um, keeping still keeping contact in some sort of way. And that's about it. Everybody's just been living life, enjoying life, making the best of it. I know I have, like I said, for what I do, and it's great, so we're just here.

Obviously being exposed in pop culture and a lot of people can be really, really fuck you up or at least give you like an isolated, really like difficult experience. But, uh, I don't know. The Rizla seems to be thriving and I think it's just cause his parents see like very real with them and like they take the money from that and they make them a really nice Avengers themed bedroom, you know? Yeah. Please. I hope I don't have to watch a tick tock in 20 years from the Rizler

about like how horrible the conditions is right now. Well, yeah, in 20 years, I'll be in his 50s, I guess. No, he's a child. It looks like a good place for sure. He probably hasn't talked about this recently, has he? He's posted a couple of memes about it. Oh, and he also isn't really into legos oh let's go that red hat worried me for a second but we're all good god damn he's really in the legos that's almost as cool as being into painting models yeah he's got the tesla tech money now yeah dude

and then he posted just a bunch of clips of the show that's not really like un-narrated or anything. It just kind of. Oh, but that dunk is when Gershon Diaboussale, the French basketball player dunked on LeBron during the Olympics. And he actually got an NBA contract after this and had a good season for the Philadelphia 76ers. What is this? A new song from Brendan Nabenhaffey. Who's this guy?

I don't know. I like him. He's pretty cool though. He's actually pretty fun. I think Curtis did a video about the Benson Boone effect, which makes sense because he's got to like strike down any of his like replicants or whatever. He is fighting from a place of authority. Yeah, he has to defeat Benson Boon in combat

and any of his like copycats. Destroy it from the inside. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so that he can stand alone as the last mulleted man. Now look, if somebody, if there's a light skin anime guy that comes out, I'll take care of him. I've never seen Curtis do a front flip, but I believe in his ability

I think that's how he gets into bed. Oh for sure. He gets who he gets in his car. Yeah, so he flips into his car so we're looking at um They got a new kind of honky right and I knew like I just dropped. It's it's a Mac DeMarco Curtis adjacent somewhere in between there. Wait is he I think he's Curtis adjacent because Curtis talked about him but would you call him Curtis adjacent in other ways in the sense that Curtis is bundled into the white boy cannon I see yes yes but aesthetically I'm seeing a lot more Mac DeMarco and that's hey ain't nothing with another wrong with that live your life you know no problem make it an album with six thousand songs on it. But I just see the man's name.

And I hear the man has maybe done some cringe. But even before judging the potential cringe, are they making like you kinds of white name? This is what brand? Brendan Aberneth. Brendan, not even Brandon. That does sound like royalty. Everyone's local artist.

Are they on TikTok as well? Yeah, of course. Brandon Aberneth. Brandon, not even Brandon. That does sound like royalty. Brandon Aberneth. Everyone's local artist. Are they on TikTok as well? Yeah, of course. Okay, I'm gonna read the, this got like 110,000 likes, 35,000 comments. I love this moment where I get to share my most vulnerable songs at each show. Just me and the crowd.

This is the show? This one is called married in a year and I think it's about comparing myself with everyone I can relate to that I think it is I do like it's like a little bit like um, I did a thing So yeah, so I think this one's no come on I get it man. I get it It's fine So is this like a part of the show where he like got off the stage and went into the I think he went like And they went on the stage. That's

socks Yeah, oh boy, okay No judgment is trying to reserve judgment helps him with the stompa suburbs with a kid on the way in three convincing yourself you'll live in the American dream and I'll be dancing I like that he's on his tippy toes. I think we should do that more. It's because he hurt his heels. There's something uncannily.

That one guy turning away to laugh is me. The one person starting to clap in the middle of the clip and then just like, is it the moment where he does his little whisper? I feel this. If I was a confident white man, I'd be unstoppable. I just, I like, I think it's a superpower. The no shoes is stressing me out. I'll say stomping around.

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There's something very youth-passed about this. Okay, he's getting cooked. He's getting cooked. Oh wait, someone said youth group-ass song and then he said you don't know the half of it. Okay. Okay. So he's Benson Booning it. He's being a part of the jokes. I'm not. Didn't Benson Boon do something like that where he like wait no Jacob we were talking about this because it's like Benson Boone posting where He like knew he was cute. He was like trying to like look cute

Oh, right hitting them with I can't remember what it was in one of the others. I can't even remember There's something to like I think this would be a really interesting litmus test to see something to like, I think this would be a really interesting litmus test to see. It's a little like that little test where you like, look at the different kinds of faces and you tell you say what kind of emotion you're feeling from it. Or it's I don't know. It's almost like a psychological test to see how and why some people struggle to hear that. Because I can't articulate it. Melon.

Did you also see the fan? What did Fandana? He reposted it. So he's I actually think it's good that he's being a good sport about this because like kill the part of you that cringes. I clearly have it, but I'm still trying to vanquish him. I have no interest in not cringing. I would love to. Well, I would love to well. I would be free Okay, can we watch the worse shit the Fantana clip

Ah God stop oh dang since he doesn't like it, I guess I'll just quit. Oh, it's funny. You'll be married in here. So he, for the listeners, He got your ass. He's back. He comically looked like he was going to throw his guitar down and instead he did counter, counter.

Perfect counter. Oh. He's kicking the shoes off. He kicked the shoes off, so he's back to the socks and now it's on dirt and I don't like that I'll say it that's where I will hate I've been holding it in keep your shoes on keep your shoes on so instead out now on all platforms feels like a threat Jacob I'm sorry to make you keep going back to this, but I wanted to look at his description, because he says, also, how do, he says,

not even the internet's busiest music nerd can keep me down. Also, how do you rate reputation? OK, that's a little pick me. OK, I'll say it. Oh, I know. I'll say it. Hashtag Swifty. Yes!

Yeah. Hashtag Swifty. Oh, my god. You don't love Bey? Oh, my god you you don't love bae Oh my god, you don't love her. That's I want to take it at its earnestness But it's like every part of it feels like pick me boyfriend core It's like if we were wrapping up an episode and how could you rate? Taylor Swift's masterpiece which I like which I love imagine we wrapped up an episode sad boys

We're like, what is my favorite BTS song I mean run through a few of them well I just like I would never talk over a woman cuz I would just listen I'd be like speak up you idiot I would say that how do I feel about this it's okay okay okay all right all right now ladies cringe okay but, ladies, it's cringe. No, but that's OK. But that's OK. It's not a death sentence to be cringe. OK, you can be it. I'm cringe.

There's so many. I cringe at myself constantly. OK, kill the party. The cringes. I won't. Cringe is the like that's your immune system. Right. It's naturally going like whoa hey I have antibodies that are fighting that off whatever that is sometimes you have to you you get an antibiotic because you don't quite have enough to do it you your

insides can't quite handle it this is one of those like well my body's reacting to it and I'm not sure why but I'm not gonna stop it because I've got a scratchy throat something Something's wrong. Pete, you're cringe. Do you have, immediately on instinct, a reason this is cringe? Like a one line why is it cringe? I think similar to what Jarvis said, it's very pick me.

Like it is taking, knowing that everyone, pretty much everyone on the earth at this point considers Benson Boone cringe, and he is like emulating exactly what Benson Boone has done and is doing. And also, Benson Boone continue to pop off? You're doing great? Yeah, and then. Nothing's stopping you.

And then the. Steph Curry is singing along to your song. Playing along with it is one thing. Like he got the guy, forget his name, the guy that is like a satire. Oh, oh, I know that guy. The satire musician got the guy forget his name the guy that is like a satire oh the satire musician guy I forget his name like he has he's playing along with it but then at the same time he's not playing along with it enough because he's still doing the well I guess I'll just stop making yeah it's

like that it gives me the energy of when you like post a selfie where you clearly look incredible going I just woke up. Might delete later. I know what it is. He's doing the same type of playing along that JoJo Siwa did. Where it's like. Well, she did create queer pop.

Oh, she did. That's true, I forgot about that. This guy created guitar. It feels like he's trying to insert emotional buzzwords. Bo Burnham, a long time ago, did a country parody song where he's like truck, beer, key change. My farm and my label. It feels like that, like paint by numbers pop music,

where it like, it's supposed to give, it presents as authentic down to earth or that's what it is going for, but it comes off as like. It's kind of a like, don't touch the glass thing where like as soon as you or wrestler K-Fabe where it's like, okay, these lyrics don't mean anything. It's fine.

That's just, that's most of the genre. It just doesn't mean anything. Say keywords. The moment you try and defend that, the moment you try and say that they do mean something, that's when it's embarrassing. Yeah. You can just be look every pop singer sings about like love and deepness and whatever. Yeah. 90% of people have not been in a profound relationship of any kind.

None of these fucking people have that all they do is tour. But, Mitaeus was playing 9000 songs about bad relationships. How many have you had? It doesn't make any sense. But she's not then coming out as soon as when somebody's like rude to her about something. Going like, you don't understand how important these- And like singing it in a way that's like,

this is the big emotional part, guys. This is the part you're supposed to feel emotional just like by doing it loud and then having the silent part. Is it authenticity? Is that what's. Is it authenticity? Is that what's embarrassing? Fake authenticity? I think it's fake authenticity.

Well, okay, I am not the one who can decide if they're being authentic, but it presents to me, to my ears and eyes, as fake authenticity. And it feels like pick-me behavior because I get tells like the, by the way, how could you rate reputation by Taylor? Hashtag Swifty.

Like I'm like, I cannot explain. It's like, it's oralist is the issue. Because okay, here's the thing. I listen to Fallowboy. Fallowboy is some of the fucking cringest lyrics that if you read them out, they sound like this. But there's Orabi. These are lyrics to Fallowboy's Dance Dance.

She says, I'm not gonna do it in the things because you can hear the song. Well, I'll do it a little bit. It's like, she says she's no good with words, but I'm worse. Barely stuttered out a joke of a romantic stuck to my tongue You know what I mean, but it's like but dance dance is a fucking banger And it's like it's not delivered in a way that's like she says I'm no good

like But like literally they're mumbling through those lyrics. We talked about I think it was Like literally they're mumbling through those lyrics. We talked about I think it was Yeah, well that was just so so good Harriet but he was 15% worse. It would be embarrassing Lin-ma-ma Miranda made a very good musical. Yeah. Yeah, that was yesterday It's like if if I was at the subway when like Hozier was singing, take me to church with all those people around him, I would be like, who is this fucking,

oh my God, the voice of an angel. You know what I mean? It's like, okay, it doesn't matter anymore. Which is the, there's two ways to parry. And not that you need the voice of an angel, but there's just many different ways. We're gonna make fun of, there's two ways to parry it. One is you lean in, which he's trying to do,

but you have to lean in way further or you're just so you do an amazing thing and it blows everyone out of the water to the extent where they making fun of you doesn't count. Like Lin-Manuel Miranda is like, is extremely cringe. And he just keeps making fun of you. But he's so good. And he's very successful.

He's so, and he's very successful. So there's nothing wrong with being cringe. He unfortunately is a generational talent. And that's,'s and I and I do know Hamilton front to back and I will continue to sing it and I'll be American but I'll be married in a year in the suburbs whoa with a kid on the way in three suburbs That's a tricky one. That's like a, like a 50-fellow. I just did it. Did you hear what I just did organically? I just went, oh, sorry. That's a reference to Sad Boys Nights today. They're trying to come to a situation.

Where we talk about the Tylenol murders and Yu-Gi-Oh and a little bit of, nah, not too much of Diddy, but a little bit. Which is frankly too much Diddy in a lot of cases in personal life. Which is too much. Speaking of a little Diddy that I love, here's Married in the Suburbs by Benson Booth. I'm not sure if you've heard of this. I've heard of this. I've heard of this.

I've heard of this. I've heard of this. I've heard of this. I've heard of this. I've heard of this. I've heard of this. I've heard of this. I've heard of this.

I've heard of this. I've heard of this. I've heard of this. I've heard of this. I've heard of this. Diddy but a little bit which is too much to do a lot of cases in personal life Speaking of a little Diddy that I love here's married at the suburbs by Benson Boone to Binder Nathanie Kennedy Bertholdt McClungle style crackly McHonking Why did Klongelstein. Crackley McHonkington. Can we play? Why did McManage say? It's OK. We're half white.

It's fine. It's fine. What's the one at the bottom left there? Is that also a live show? He's fine. I'm not going to say let him be. Let him get married at the supper. I want him to be successful.

That makes great cringe content for me. Premiered my next single married in a year It looks like his feet hurt do put some shoes on I don't know. I don't know but this is Benson Boone's fault Yeah That should be the caption hey I want him to continue thriving and I wish him the best and I want him to continue rolling with the punches and And if you want to be pick me then be pick me shit if that's your authentic self then be you

Oh, I like the salute. It's like no one knows the song. Okay. So doing the choreography as if like everybody's like with a kid on the way and he's like, it feels like it's for the moment when everybody puts three in the air. It's about, you know, he's getting grassroots. I have a thought on why like authenticity stuff. It's not that everything has to be authentic. I think it's that everyone acts fake online sometimes, right?

A lot of the time. And if you are trying to be critical about the way that you conduct yourself in life, you have to spend a lot of your life going like, Oh, is that fake? Oh, am I acting up? Oh, was that stupid? Oh, was that a lie? Why did I say I watched that movie when I didn't? Why did I change my voice for this person? Why am I changing myself for this relationship? Like it could be small things, big things. And I think there's something about seeing such a distilled perfect shot glass of normal cringe. It's just regular inauthentic.

And then he does that reply to Fontana, like, oh, no, don't do that, don't let that get published. So I like pain, so no, I'm nervous, but can we click on the thinking about you, Frank Ocean cover? Oh boy Oh he doesn't even know the song I thought it was turning into the other song. Yeah. I've been thinking about forever

It wasn't bad. No it's fine. It's fine. It's the same. I'm like Okay people are being mean of course. Okay can we go back What was Hey you don't know the least of it. I'm not reading the comments and I'm not laughing at them. He's actually liking the comments So he is laughing. I'm so cringe so bad, but him going to himself kind of sick at the end

That's funny because I'm choosing to believe that didn't happen and you didn't say that that Frank Ocean cat sure can play a tune That's what it feels like it It feels that's how it feels. Oh, well, you know who this is kind of giving me glimmers of who I blame even before Benson Boone. I think the originator originated for shit like this. People like hoodie Allen. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Doing stuff with white. Well, it reminds me of the Atlanta episode where it's making fun of the acoustic covers of rap songs. Yeah. Which God we sure saw a lot of back in that time.

I was a dude that ruled YouTube. On the uke? Yeah. Oh, the ukulele, dude. And luckily, no one's ever used ukelele on YouTube since Can we go to the one that with the parody guy from that from from the bass song Planet of the bass. Yeah A lot of people don't know this, but Kyle Gordon, probably one of the biggest influences on my vocals and how I try to sing, so such an honor to be in this video. Love it. Married in a year, the recorded version is out now.

We are young! Oh. Oh. Is Kyle Gordon the guy from... That's Kyle Gordon. That's Kyle Gordon. But the thing is, so this, he's doing a joke, but he's like doesn't, is Kyle Gordon the guy from that's Kyle Gordon. But the thing is, so this he's doing a joke, but he's like, doesn't is bad at it. Oh, bad at the comedy is the inspirate. He's like doing a bit. I can't. That's the thing is I can't tell what's a bit and what's not.

Right. Because Kyle Gordon did, I guess, is this this is just a stitch of Kyle Gordon's video parodying him. And so he's doing like an Anthony Fantano thing Where he's like saying? But people don't know that Kyle Gordon was actually my vocal inspiration Anyway, the recorded version of the song It's a lot of steps to the bit We are young Was Brendan

That was crazy Married in a year in the suburbs With a kid on the way Convincing yourself That was crazy! Wait, can we watch the original where he's like the tree? This looks like a collab now. I think we saw the original a second ago, right? I don't know what's going on. I'm so confused. Is there an original version where it's a prompt to play along? You know one of those was like Yeah, yeah, this feels like we're editing Getting the media folder. I need like a cork board and some red string

and I need to figure out. Things are allowed to be cringed, man. Also him wearing like some sort of American flag outfit in every one of these videos is so funny. The salute makes me wanna fall. I'm sorry. I can't hold it in, man. Dude, what is the, there's a very specific vibe

I'm thinking of. I think it's like. Can we look at the Rolling Stone one? Riffing at like a wedding or something. It's like someone who you're not quite aligned with tonally, but is like playing along but five degrees off. Yeah. Very big week for two people in.

Oh, it's Taylor Swift again. Listen to it. Oh brother. All right. This is for. Oh my God. Okay. This is pretty funny. Okay.

Okay. All right. Do this. I am glad that Taylor Swift bought her Masters back. Okay. Okay. All right. Do this. Stop doing this. I am glad that Taylor Swift bought her master's back. I think it's wonderful. The treating it, how did he frame it? Our mother has our children.

Relax. Okay. A mother regained custody of our children. I don't believe you. Our mother. I don't believe you. It's like queer baiting for white women. For straight white women. I don't believe you our mother. I don't believe you Happy Pride month everybody happy pride. I'm too mean

American dream I Think ultimately this guy's just cringe. He didn't do anything wrong Annoying and look he's farming impressions off of it as he should be. It's not a zero sum game. Like he can be cringe, we can react that way, and he can also live a full, successful, fulfilling career and life. And that's a wonderful thing.

That's the beauty of life here. I think- The circle of cringe. I think he did Do something wrong? In this game, we're all playing you know what I mean like this guy played the wrong card in the game of poker of online bullshit that we're doing and then we And the bunch of other people Beating him and taking his buddy. game. I think it's fully valid to critique what he's doing. Yeah.

In a like, I think what maybe the reason I feel like year after year, we feel like we have to couch this kind of stuff even more and like, but don't blow him up with a bomb is because people have become like they've started to tie like moral righteousness and moral fiber to the way you behave online. No matter what it is. Sure. This guy, what this guy's order and Uber eats twice a week. This that's, he's a bad person. Yeah. It was like, I don't know what you actually wanted to say. And I am a bad person. This guy likes imagine dragons, kill him. No, just make fun of him. You should lose his job. Calling him. You. You tweet, I like the new Imagine

Dragon song and someone quote tweets it with this is where he works by the way. E-mailing supervisor. It's like you're LinkedIn. I hope this guy thrives if only because I get more of these shorts where he epically owns the commenters by eating a burger? It does feel like that is the sub, in talking about why it's cringe, the subtext to me in my own media processing is songwriter epically owns critic. It is, yeah. Hacked, comedian heckled on stage, pwns. Yeah, that's kinda how it feels.

Changed my mind. And it doesn't feel like, oh, I'm just rolling with the punches. I'm nonchalant about it because the existence of the TikTok means that you're not. I'm actually laughing. I'm actually gonna make a TikTok about how I don't care. That's like what it, like,

but I don't think it matters that if they care or not, and ultimately they're using all of those opportunities to promote their music as like, this is also promoting the music. And if it's, if it's your bag, that's wonderful. I mean, I hope and pray that you'll be married next year. And I think ultimately all cringe, including this, comes down to us recognizing embarrassing behaviors that we've felt ourselves.

Exactly, it all comes back to us, we're all cringe. The foundation of cringe is absolutely the same. And we'll all be married in a year in the summer. Oh, I've felt like I've done that, and that's embarrassing. Right, right. Can I start a clip of like, ooh, ooh, ooh, don't do, oh God, he's doing it. And I've been there before. I'm sorry. I'm sure

if you're an astronaut, you can notice like bad operating of the spaceship. But if I see someone hitting buttons, okay, that's fine. If I'd never heard music before, I wouldn't be like, oh, this is fun. Okay. God, that'd be nice though, wouldn't it? Just listen to music. Just like, yes. Just listen to music. Just like, ah, yes. In the American dream, we married in three houses. You'll be married. The secret with a kid on the way. Someone told him that he like needed more dynamics in his.

Takes it very literally. This is the Doppler effect of music. Very literally. You'll be married. Where? When? Come back, Kylo, Brendan? It's Kylo

Rindenstein. Darth Morlian. Download it on iTunes so it goes in that chart It's Kylo Ringinstein. Darth Maulion. Download it on iTunes so it goes in that chart where all like the Tom McDonald listeners go. And they're like, I'm 83,000 years old but I love this. Buy it for a dollar, yeah. Wait, what did Curtis say? What did Curtis say about this? Little Curtis, my little friend.

Hey, let's have a little commentary on commentary action. What in high heaven did Curtis say about the rainbow? Since we already have it loaded up. Butterfly. So I think everybody knows I have beef with Benson Boone. Triple B? He kind of stole my shit. He kind of stole what I look like and he's doing flips, okay? I send him Benson Boone things all the time. Look the time. Kind of a sore area for me, is the fact that I can't do a backflip.

All right, I've always wanted to. I believe you can. But they're too scary. He's being humble. Let me know if I picked up on the mic, dude, my neck just cracked like crazy. Oh, damn. Room the yellow, the empty room.

This is the song. You'll be married in a year in the suburb, How's it? The empty room this is the song Okay You know And people are do people are goofing on this right? People have been goofing on this video. It seems... This type of music seems performative in a way, you know what I mean? He's like pretending to have emotions, you know? Which sucks, because I don't know, maybe he's not. Maybe those are genuine.

But to me it just seems that way, to be like... He'll be living in the suburbs. It's British. It's so funny to watch him. It feels like he's going through something. Like, I don't, it's just so funny to me cause I can't conceive of doing a podcast solo. I'm just picturing a therapist looking at him,

like sitting and making notes. I feel like I'm across from him taking notes. Yeah. And how does that make you feel? I'm sure it's not funny to... I think it's funnier to me because I know him. Well, it's like a... it is a Curtis ass bit. Yeah.

Do you send the image? He said he thought he was being too mean when he was recording. So, I... look. Should have heard the things we called this guy. Called him Curtis. Should have heard... what we said. Alright, gang. Should have heard what we said. All right, game.

Should we wrap it, throw it? We'll be wrapping this podcast in the suburbs. In three. Is it three years? Is that, it pisses me off because it implies three suburbs. I'm married in a year in the suburbs. With a kid on the way in three He's not allowed to not say three years if he means three years there three wives

Sure if you leave out the subject you would go back to the last subject I don't know enough English what he means. I know that's what he means. Yeah, but it's But syntactically I'm mad. He didn't do it right. With a kid on the way in three years. With a kid on the way in three years. Yeah, if he's doing a little whispers, throw that in. In living the American.

Three, for three years. Three years, by the way, by the way, it's years. How do you write? Oh, that's the other part. All right, thanks everybody. If you want to listen to more of us, in fact, some of which we recorded in between the production of this very episode. If you want to hear us go in sicko mode

in an entirely different format, Jarvis is lying down, I crossed my leg too hard and I hurt my knee. I had a mild episode of tiredness in the middle of the show and we recorded nights during that. We kind of came up with this song that you might really enjoy. It's like, it's about like being married. I think. I think it's about sad boys nights over at patreon.com. I don't really remember.

It was more of like an out of body experience. We kind of blacked out and like did this whole like podcast thing. But that's the American dream, baby. Anyway, I'm glad mother got her records back. Oh yeah. What else do we, uh, what else actually do I care about? Come to think, baby. Anyway, I'm glad mother got her records back. Oh, yeah. What else do I actually do I care about? Come to think of it, K-pop is good. And I stan everyone that you stan. I'm on exactly the same page as everyone else, you know, again. Thanks, everybody. Good night.

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