Sad Boyz - Streamers Are Dumb

Episode Date: September 11, 2026

One thing to pack, five ways to power! Get 10% Off @Ridge with code SADBOYZ at https://www.Ridge.com/SADBOYZ #Ridgepod Check out 150+ bonus episodes at: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://patreon.com/sadboyz⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ✨find us everywhere✨⁠⁠ https://linktr.ee/sadboyzpod⁠⁠  🎬 CREW 🎬 Hosted by Jarvis Johnson and Jordan Adika Produced & Edited by Jacob Skoda Produced by Anastasia Vigo Thumbnail design by @yungmcskrt Outro music by @prod.typhoon & @ysoblank 00:00:00 Talk To The Hand 00:05:52 Safety Patrol 00:12:30 A Fire On The Mountain 00:20:51 Sponsored By: Ridge 00:23:30 Get R Done 00:29:29 Pokemon Worlds 00:43:07 Being A Shameless Baby 00:57:21 Streamers Denying Emotions 01:18:48 Doing Things The Hard Way 01:20:24 Sad Boyz Nightz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to Sadboys, a podcast about feelings and other things also I'm Jarvis. Oh yeah. And you agree. Oh, I'll say. I'm Jordan. You better believe it.

And I do. Do you remember, uh, yeah, uh, what is it same? You'd say it again. Don't wear it out.

That's my name. Don't wear it out. Say my name. Wait. That's my name. Don't wear it out. Go to the library and check it out. What?

And then sometimes people would add to that one. I didn't know that. And if they don't have it, then like, it started to become an improv game at a certain point. I don't know. That's cool. Yeah.

Yeah, we were pretty cool in America. Do you ever unironically hit the talk to the hand? Whoa. It does hit. That was a real elementary school thing for me. You can't, by the way, you can't go talk to the hand. That's very aggressive. You've got to do like a magical girl sequel.

Talk to the hand because the face ain't listening. See, there we go. This is an A, B conversation. You need to see your way out. And I don't know if there are any other letters in the alphabet. But I know at least those. We were missing. booty because the hands off duty.

That's an offer and request that they talk directly into your eyes. That's actually one that Jacob just made up. That's like you're walking away. They're talking to the booty. But they're following you. Talking to your ass. I'm rubber and your glue, whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you.

Yeah. You suck. You'd say that. You'd say that and then turn around in the lunch line. Talk into my eyes. Whatever major loser? Yeah, and that was from, um, was that from... Clueless?

Clueless, yeah. Well, but not exactly. They would just go, whatever, like, it was like this. Because, no, that's in a movie, though. Whatever major. Major, like the whole, I think. We briefly had one which was whatever loser, your mom works at McDonald's. Do you just made that out?

No, it's 100%. That was too long. Whatever loser, your mom works at McDonald's. No, because he did the hands real bad. I did kind of like how you did the, the, It ain't mine, dude. This is, I don't want to steal credit from Sasha at Antroy's School 2000. It did perfectly like count out into like what we were just saying because we were adding all these extra elements to things and then you had one too.

It turns out it was in the recesses. And what's nice is it's very British because it has just like a sprinkling of classism. A little treat at the end. I feel like we had some classism too. What? Yeah. Yeah. The land of the foie?

The land of the foie. Homadab wave. Home of the waves. Crazy that you guys have to say the whole national anthem in front of the flag or whatever. Every day. We have to say the Pledge of Allegiance, which is not to be confused with the national anthem, which is not to be confused with that other song. My country is of these?

No, there's actually another one. America the Beautiful? That one. Yeah. So there's a lot of songs. You guys have a whole album. Yeah. You have an EP to go with the country.

We have that saying it goes, America is the best country. And if you disagree, then we will kill you. Whoa. Whoa. You move your head around to indicate killing. Yeah. Talk to the booty because the jet fuel won't melt still. Talk into my ass.

What a hell is up? Dude, we didn't. So last week, we talked to our dear friend, Ali Barthwell, author of reality TV for snobs. She got trapped inside this book. And that all came together because Ali messaged me like the night before we recorded and we had just come back from Pokemon Worlds.

We just came back from our trip to San Francisco, sunny San Francisco. It was... There was no sun at the time. There's not too much sun, but I miss the weather of San Francisco so much. It's 9,000 degrees Fahrenheit in Los Angeles right now. Yes, for anybody curious.

This will probably be one of the last episodes of Starboys because I'm going to get immolated on the way to my car. Well, yeah, you had one of those Project Hail Mary tunnels that you actually built. Full sulfur. You spent months building it from your car to the door of the office? Unfortunately, I, for all my skill set, a little limited on engineering and construction. But we do have a, that's how we developed our special language. Yeah, that's right. We learned together.

No, I made the regret of, I made the mistake. of not putting that like, have one of those little foil shield to protect my car turning into hell. And guess who never puts it up, including today. That does feel like one of those I'm rubbering your glue situation because you're like, no thank you, son. Nice try. Just make the rest of the car hot.

Yeah, it is. It is you've activated my trap card. Mirror force. But my car is still made of metal, so it will be pretty warm. Yeah, it is really hot. And it's very humid. Which is something I'm familiar with from, being in Florida my most of the life.

But it's not typical for LA. No, they didn't. Tends to be dry. It's not supposed to get like that. It's so funny that you grew up somewhere so incompatible with it. It sucks. It sucks so bad. I thought I,

18 years of like, I was like, I can't go outside. It hates me, but was it was how much time did you? I guess like, were you in the state long enough consistently to be like, this is just what weather is. It's just what the world is like.

In fact, I didn't, the only times I left the state, when I was very young and can't remember, we came to California on Greyhound Bus. And then we went up to Georgia once for a quote unquote vacation. I don't really know what, I think maybe we went to like a beach or something, but we have those in Florida, so I don't really know what was going on. And then I went to Washington, D.C. with the same. Safety Patrol, which is, um, we didn't have ACAB back then. And so I was a little police officer. You're a little narc. Actually, I was just a little nark. Yeah, I was a little nark. I didn't really, I was like an FBI snitch, essentially. Okay. Yeah. I didn't really have any responsibilities. I think that they were just like, wear this fluorescent belt. Oh, I see. Okay. I wore like a sash.

And what was your mission? To look like an idiot. Oh, okay. At school. Yeah. Oh no. It was like a hall monitor kind of situation? Yeah. Okay. Did you have the safety patrol? It was essentially the Power Rangers.

So they had an inside a, like, they had an inside a mole, except they make them wear a big sash that says, I'm a mole, by the way. And if anyone was ever, if anyone was ever running with scissors, I'd tell all of them. Hey, stop right that. Well, don't put me in a locker. So, uh, naturally, uh, they brought us in to Washington, D.C. to, much like when like a, sports team wins a national championship. Yeah, a lot like that. Cash Patel was hanging out with you. He thinks he's part of the team. Well, he was in my class.

He was pretty young back then. That is, you're so, such a nerd. The idea of you wandering around, mincing around the hallway with your special belt. I think that, like, so much of my early life, I got by on sheer, like,

like a kid with, like, a propeller hat and like rosy cheeks. Yeah, a little big, big lolly. Because I, like, didn't do my homework. You know what I mean? I, like, didn't do anything at school. But you're a little precocious. But everyone liked me.

Yeah, and I do feel like that could have, like, led to horrible outcomes in my life. Like, John Hamm, you know, big a surgeon. Like, no one wants to tell that he's wrong. I use that cultural reference so much. Oh, my God. Because it feels so appropriate for so many such done in Kroger. D-Rat gave so much to the culture.

And I don't, I feel like there's a lot of things that people don't even know they're referencing it. Kind of like whatever major loser apparently, because I don't know where the hell that came from. Yeah, that could be anyone. And of course, our favorite one that we all know, whatever loser, your mom works at McDonald's. At McDonald's. And then when I see a McDonald's

commercial, I go, I want to go to there. Like Tina Fey did in that one show that she was in. Money, please, etc. Saturday at Live. You know Saturday Night Live. Camp Rock. That's what, whatever major losers from. I'm going to make.

a connection that is maybe for one other person out there. I was, why was I thinking of the movie Major Pain? I said major. Major, yeah, Major loser. Now I was seeing a major pain and then that made me think of Cadet Kelly. Okay. Anyone remember Cadet Kelly? No. Cadet Kelly was a movie starring Lizzie McGuire was a movie starring Hillary Duff and Chrissy Carlson Romano. It's kind of a Miley Hannah Montana type situation. That was tricky. It was essentially a movie. where Hillary Duff was like a... Oh, it's legally blonde, but the army. It's exactly that.

And Chrissy Carlson Romano played a giant asshole. Captain Stone, commanding officer. And Hillary Duff played the, you know, I'm just a girl. I don't think that camouflage would be very effective, to be honest. No, I think you'd stick out like a sort of. Well, it's a good thing that, like, the training part is LARP anyway. Oh, yeah, that would be good. I guess it doesn't really matter what colors you're.

Oh, look at the fabulous uniform on the guy behind her. Wow. Oh, no, that's Chrissy Carlson Romano. She's just dressed like that. Chicks like a dictator. It's a cool look, though. And, uh... Man, I need to, uh, frontload some, some, I need an iconic USB stick right in my

forehead that downloads all the decom info. Is that guy in the bottom of the tent corner of famous character after? Yes, that's Gary Cole. What the fuck? fuck is wrong with you. What? That was so fast. That was faster than I've ever seen Jordan identify like a single video game cover.

It was outrageous. I was still absorbing. I was still an intake. I was still processing the question. You know what he's famous for us. That's one of the pieces of play. He's the boss in office space. Oh my God.

Okay. I'm going to need you to come in on Saturday. Belmont type of. Yes, that's exactly. Oh my God, that's what I know I'm from. I should know I'm from this, but like, no offense to cadet Kelly, I was mostly focused on, I was mostly focused on Hillary Duff and Chris and Carl's Romano. You know what I mean?

No offense to cadet Kelly. Because it's like office space occurred at a different point in my life. Yes. And then I like, like, I, it's kind of like how the dad from Lizzie McGuire, uh, he's a famous guy. He's a famous actor who passed away. recently. I think so, yeah.

Yeah. But I know him as being the dad in Lazy McGuire. He's, he was, he was famous, he became famous in Revenge of the Nerds. Right. Oh, cool movie.

And he is. And I'm like, I'm Gen Z so I don't know that. Yeah, well, what do you say? His brother is. Why do you know about his brother? His brother's also famous. He was in Kung Fu. We'll say stuff.

Oh, is he a Yes. You die from autoerotic expectation? Yes. What's their last name? I can't think of it right now. Carradine. Caradine.

David. David Caradine was his brother. Sounds like a bitter you'd put in it up. His name is. Oh, I'll skip the carotin, thank you. Yeah, yeah. Something else, Caradine. I can't remember.

Now, he did not die of Autorotics. No, he died of something else. That would make sense. Robert. Robert. Robert Caradine is Lizzie McGuire's dad. He passed away February this year. And he is from Revenge of the Nerds,

Which is a bad movie. Do not watch it. We liked him still, right? He didn't like. No, he's great. Okay, cool. Because I loved him. But in Revenge of the Nerds, it was like a screwball comedy from the 80s.

With some not awesome acts. Oh my God, that's him. Yeah. As a young one. As a young man. Oh, and then it's the Revenge of the, isn't that the Monty Python or no, the Life of? It's a Lampoon. It's a Lampoon.

It's a Lampoon. It's kind of British Lampoon. No, I was thinking of, I was thinking of the poster of the life of Bryant. Oh, the text. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, what's up, dude? I feel like we've had a very uncharacteristically active month. Like, we do stuff, but in terms of, like, back-to-back day to day, not a lot of downtime.

I mostly, you plug myself in after we do this for the rest of the week. Well, you basically rotated out of, like, stuff that we're doing, going to, etc., and then your leisure time is still spent. on the grind because you're climbing to be the very best like I want to work I never sleep

oh yeah because my my Pokemon arc is still happening and I am gonna in two weeks time 10 days time uh oh

going to Baltimore for the first Pokemon regional of the season hey welcome to Baltimore and in 10 days time you're gonna watch the wire all five seasons I'm gonna go to the tournament

and then I'm going to watch the wire instead of playing Pokemon. When they're wearing the headphones at the tournament, you're just listening to the wire. And I'm going to be like, are you talking to me? That's the wire, right? I'm like, hey, hey, who needs help with these wires over here? That is the opening scene. Yeah, yeah. The most famous line from the wiring job.

This wiring stinks. I need three seasons to fix it. Is, where's Wallace? String. String, where's Wallace? All right, let me try that. Where's Waldo? Kind of.

Some of the same letters, to be sure. Where's, there's so many strings in wires. You caught on this wire, I think. You misunderstood the show. Also, it's not wires. It is, that's just one wire. How could that be complex? Yeah.

Oh, that's a complete. How could it be good? How have you been emotionally? We've been so doing. It feels unintuitive. Good question. I feel like it does help us when we do. I was really bad.

last time and now it's not worse which is good i kind of like but yeah no we've been going going going and trip was good i had fun with that that was a super fun time um i think sometimes that stuff is granted like there's going to be a a debt there's going to be like a energy debt to be paid. Oh, yeah. But in the moment, you know,

you know that and you're planning for it and you're ready. We drove back. Oh, yeah. And thankfully, it was a breezy five an hour, our trip that took about 11 hours. That was so cool.

We got like, right, like, we got like an hour away. And then there was like a fire on the mountain. There was a fire on the mountain on I-5 south. And I remember, like,

like 10, 15 minutes before we came to a gridlock stop on the highway. I was like, that's smoke over there? Is that there a fire? We were seeing like vapors or some kind. And then we kept getting closer to the smoke. And then we started, I saw brake lights ahead and it was like, hmm. And we started slowing down and we slowed down. And we slowed down and we came to a stop.

And then we didn't move for two hours. Yeah, we slowed down in that we slowed so much so that the only motion was the motion of the earth. We were technically moving. We were technically moving. So that many guys for the capital G kept getting out of their cars. Dude, I was dying. Let me see if I can. And then they started like hanging onto each other's cars and like talking about it.

You see this fire? So I don't know if this is going to be a universal experience, but I will say at least in like a hyper, hyper hyper car culture like here, if there's some sort of gridlock. Or in fact, this even happens if like there's some smoke on the horizon or a bunch of ambulances stop outside of a house. or something. And there is a do-drock instinct of a certain age. We'll say 40 through 60, maybe. Two, no matter the thing that's going on.

Gonna, let me have a look at that. Oh, big meteor. It is very funny to imagine. There's a house is on fire. Yeah, I was noticing there was a pretty big fire there on that, their mountain. I'll see if I can do something about it. I'll see, I got a bottle of water in my car see if we can put it out.

I could blow on it really hot. I think the most fucked up part is that we were, according to GPS, 500 feet away from the exit that would have freed us from that hell, but we could not move anywhere. Yeah, there's nowhere to go. And eventually we got to the exit. We moved for like 15 minutes.

We were inch by inch. We were moving towards the exit because they had to reroute everyone. They closed I-5 South. So they were rerouting everyone to do a little loop around this exit, go about 50 minutes north again, and then you can go back down south in a different route. Because this mountain pass was pitch black from ash and fire. Yeah.

Like actually scary. Just like it was you, you cannot go on the highway. They close it. And there's so many people waiting for them to reopen it that we weren't stuck because people couldn't move. We were stuck because they wouldn't move. So eventually the cops had to make people that were waiting for the highway to open, move to the side.

So I think half the time we were waiting was because people were being stupid and wouldn't move out of the way for that's like one of those classic human nature things where it's like why we can't load into planes the efficient way and stuff it's too like limbic system takes over and it's like me now it is right now there's like a lot of things wrong with america but don't worry most of them are uh most of them are caused by the liberals oh don't get me wrong brother um hey check out this bumper jigger it says uh this car runs on liver I can't wait for my bumpers stick is too right. But anyway, this, the like individualist culture is like, like not to freaking glaze the east.

But no, but I just notice this sometimes when we get like hyper individualistic. Like there's no like grander sense of humanity and community. It's like, well, I am personally being inconvenienced. and now there's 4,000 people behind me. But I'll hope, I'll hope the best for him. I'll hope the best for him. But I'm first in line, so I get to hold up everyone else. I really think there's, so like best case scenario, develop a culture where people are

proactively aware of the people around them, care about them and hope for the best, and thus will contribute to community. That's what community should and could be. Second best, just like a little bit of a fix, is everybody is still incredibly self-involved. but, and not to glaze the north in the UK, but there is a type of shame to being perceived as rude, though you don't care. Your heart is bad, you're a bad person.

Right, right. There's enough of a shame. There's enough shame where, like, a, you know, case in point, a politician will be ousted from their position, not because of the, like, appurrent things they've been doing for 30 years, but because they got caught kissing someone that wasn't their, wife. You're done. You're out. It's like um the East runs on collectivism, the North runs on shame and America runs on Duncan. Yes, it runs on Duncan only because we don't have that.

Um, speaking of Duncan and then I just do a commentary video right in the middle. Dude, do you go to drive a judge and golf video, but I'm saying, uh, mm-hmm. Oh yeah. That's how I felt when you were, that's how I felt yesterday because. Oh yeah. That's how I felt yesterday because. Oh yeah. Because I was just out my desk playing Pokemon. The training. And I was training. I was doing my art. And Marshall.

And, and, no, there's. And then the, and then Jordan, the jocler over here. And Jacob. I was in the peeps cuck show right there. Jordan and Jacob were recording a video. And I was just kind of, I was mostly listening to orchestral o'cureen of time music. and then and then every now and again I'd be like, that's funny

I let them know young boy I was like tell tell them I got him This episode of Sad Boys is sponsored by Ridge Can we talk about something that should honestly be illegal Your phone's got one cord Yeah

Put me phone in Oh I'll just plug my headphones in I need a different chord for that Oh okay yeah Oh okay yes I'm hearing those days are over Thanks to Ridge Thank you Ridge You know Ridge, they revolutionized the wallet.

Well, they change the game again. Okay. Okay? I believe you. I just get excited, okay? I get excited about Ridge's five and one travel power bank, which has built in cables. We just traveled to the land of the Golden Gate Bridge. And guess how many cables I had to bring?

One inside of my Ridge travel power bank. Jarvis is like, I forgot to charge my phone because I had too much, I was on the toilet. And then Jordan goes, Boom. Boom. I smacked it to the back of the MagSafe charging on my phone. Boom. I'm jolted full of energy.

And continue to be that way and I didn't give it back the entire trip. This is true. It's still in my house. I don't know where it is. We're talking MagSafe wireless charging. Apple Watch charger. Lightning USBC. Every single way you need to charge.

Okay, well, tell me some of the colors it's available in. I bet you're not going to say it's available in Matt Olive, Basecamp, Orange, and Matt Black. Okay, well, I was going to say that, but then you said it. No more juggling adapters and hunting around for outlets. at the airport just to limp your phone up to 20%. You know, you see that guy in the corner who's got the little plug in. Yeah. And the outlet's weirdly loose.

And you don't have the hard to tell him it's not charging. You can't move the phone fast or it'll just come out. And he's like, clearly distracted. Phone turns off again. Oh. Now the rich travel power bank, 20 watts of power, maximum speedier phone can charge. 10,000 milliamp hours of charge capacity, which is going to give you three full phone charges. I lived it at our trip recently.

You did it. Like everything Ridge makes. Built to last, 99 day risk-free trial, free shipping, and a lifetime warranty. This is the last power bank you'll ever need.

It's a long enough warranty that your friend that took it from you, even though he already had it on one. One thing to pack five ways to power. You can find Ridge's Power Bank at Best Buy,

and our listeners get 10% off at ridge.com. Just use code sadboys at checkout. Jordan, were you saying something? That's R-I-D-G-E. code sadboys, ridge.com, code sadboys.

I could just use it now. You can give it too. And after your purchase, they're going to ask you where you heard about it. You can tell them me. You heard about it from your good old boy Jarvis. Both of us together. And shut up. Okay, then.

Thanks again to Rich for sponsoring this episode of the podcast. Now back to the podcast. That was my line. Yeah, a new Adika video soon. I did it for real. You did it for real. It was very funny. I felt real.

I'm still kind of riding high. on the video itself. I, you know, we'll see how it comes out. But on the, like, I absolutely could just move this. I absolutely could just say, I'm sorry, there's something, I'm not, I don't feel prepared enough or I'm feeling a little self-conscious, whatever. And then I didn't and we did it and I went home. I, one, I'm genuinely proud of you.

Two, I've experienced that so many times where it's just like showing up is so much of it. Well, you are like my inspiration for doing that. I think I lost a lot of stictuitiveness, like, over a period of stress in time in life. And I don't know, like a teeny teeny bit of black pulling. Like, who fucking cares? I've gone, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I've seen you hit that and then go through the membrane to the way that I felt like, it's no, we've shown up.

We've done things together when it. We weren't sure that we could. And we've done it. We've had a good time. I think it's like for me, I don't even feel like the hit rate is that high. but if you try, even if you fail 50% of the time, 70% of the time,

you will succeed more of the time than if you just completely gave up from the outset. It feels really different when it's shared, not just publish shed, but in like, okay, Jacob's turning up and Jacob's going to help the setup. The social proof element, yeah, I definitely feel that.

And I think sometimes motivation comes from community as well. You typically record with like, at least Anastasia on the line, right? Yeah, we're Austin. Just, uh, and in, most of the time, they're like, in Zoom going, let them know.

I'm like, I don't know why Anastasia and Austin both speaking black shirts. Just, just for your video. They're like, that's my boy. Then while we were recording, Jacob was like, solid, mate. Absolutely bang on. Yeah, he was, um, Jacob arrived covered in cheese and soot.

Yeah, I don't know. I felt about that, to be honest. I don't know where he thinks are from. Or when. The, yeah, it's a little emotional buff to be sure. Are we doing, are we recording tomorrow?

I thought I were going to say we're recording right now. Are we doing a podcast right now? I just love the way the microphone smells, so I keep it right here. I, I even like, could have been you know I've been on my fatigue shit

and I uh y'all know and fat the gay I hold on plural I was like oh I could even when I'm like playing Pokemon I'm like no sit at your desk stand up straight or sit up straight

it's time to grow up it's time to pull yourself up by your booth traps and play the damn video game play tell your little cartoon rat what to do tell your little cartoon rat and And don't cry. I know he's fainting, but don't cry. He'll be back.

He lives in the ball. He lives in the ball and he's happy there. The, yeah, that was, so I was even getting like a kind of passive buff from just like doing my little thing parallel play style. It's very like, it's not the kind of thing that I feel like can be advice to people. Like, well, just do it with people. Do spend up because it is like, A, how do you get a community? Then when you have one, maintaining it. job hours of different people, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And it sounds like it solves all the problems either. Those little, little beats where like, I finally ended up getting, when I finally got my license, it was because my friend of mine also had it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember on the day, I was like, I don't want to do this fucking written test. We studied together. We both went to the DMV. They wanted paperwork, like visa village stuff that I was not comfortable bringing out

and working around with like just in case. So I was like, he goes and does his, he passes. And I'm like, I just, all I want to fucking do is go home. I don't want to engage. And I went home and I did the online one because my friend did it in. But like I had to do it then because I know it was going to slip by. Doesn't always work. Doesn't always carry you.

But it's like that little bit of, you know, even waking up. Well, I suppose waking up is a thing I do typically. But like coming to the show, huh? Wait, why? What do you have planned? No, no, no. I've got nothing planned. I can see your Google calendar.

What is that day that's marked there? You're laughing. Black George Day. It feels like it's about me. I wouldn't say so. I could be crazy. What? October's called that because of Octavian.

July is called that because of Julius. Oh, yeah. It's stupid. We don't need leap day. We just needed like one extra day. Yeah. Forever. Yeah, I don't like that.

I don't like how they messed up all the prefixes of the months. Anyway, that's mostly what I spent my time worrying about. How was a how did you enjoy worlds? Yeah, it was really nice. I mean, it was cool to be back in the bay. It's been a minute. It was nice to have like a free roaming sandbox time. I felt like I was playing GTA6.

Oh, I can't wait for the discourse. Oh, yeah, yeah. Can't wait for the. Well, I just hope they don't make it too gay. I have gay and woke. Oh, yeah, I'm hoping not that. Look forward to some iconic lines. I recently saw all the blue-haired liberals that work at rock stars.

I recently saw these bluehead liberals I've been imagining because imagine the photo was like one of those deep fried images from 1995 But I assume it was taken today Yeah, it was taken every single day while they go guess what we just said it was a time lapse of them working on You're actually not even allowed to play a man in DTA anymore. We hate men you have to play a DEI recruiter You're killing pedestrians been in a walkway It's only cops it's only white male cups. Oh, I can bring myself to do that. We hung out with We hunted out with Peeps. Peeps was there.

Hi. Hello. This is a part of our making Jordan comfortable plan. Why? You've covered in a suit. And I also, I know it's supposed to be like

a little English kid, but it's all on your face and that feels peculiar to be. Was that me? And then our friend Phil, shout out Ruxton 34 on YouTube. Real ones know. Phil and I are friends

because we shouted out his YouTube channel on Dad Boys in 2020. Did you know that? I was like, oh, I've been watching this guy

open old Paxi Yu-Gio. Dude, that's not... In 2020. It was, I mean, it was before the, it was before the, like that 2020

collectibles boom and stuff happened. That big thing of that year. Yeah, the, yeah, that was the main thing. And then there was like a

little biohacking project that I was working on that went wrong. No, but we shouted him out and then we became friendly from then and became friends. And like now it's been like six years, five, six years. It was kind of crazy.

It was a really nice hang with. He's got a kid now. He's like, uh, weird. He's like does he was an accountant when I, when we met. He like does YouTube full time now. Uh, it was, it was really nice to hang out. It felt like, um, meeting a friend at camp or something. Yeah.

Yeah. It's like, first time we'd really had an, I had an extended hangout with Phil, but we became like, a duo and trio. So it was like that, it was like the classic human being socialized instinct. When I saw you guys like paling around while I was

doing my little quests, it made me happy. You're in the battle down. We were like the assists where if you hit like left trigger, I jump in and throw a fireball but then I jump out again. And then you grab me and pull me back in and I flip in. Yeah, because this was like my first worlds where I, you know, was super locked in on, normally I'm just like a casual fan of the card

game, the video. I mean, I watch like Wolf's videos and that was like the extent of my understanding of BGC. But then since I did the Wolfie Invitational, I was like watching or I was like had been super tapped in for the past couple months. And so this is my first time experiencing worlds where I kind of knew what the meta was and I knew a ton of the players. I gotta say it was like genuinely so nice being there with like it felt like being the parent at camp

Oh hell yeah. differently to like oh shit my kid is loving this it was like seeing you in an all new element and knowing that you love a thing to fiddle with a master and knowing that like you you have like this whole sandbox now to play with.

I hate so much about socializing, but there's certain environments, especially when it overlaps with a hyperfocus, where I'm suddenly, like, outgoing and, like, gregarious. I'm, like, introducing myself to all these, like, introverted video game players. It's the alchemy. When the alchemy is just, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. When the space is there and you don't feel like you're pushing it.

Yeah, it was good. And then, um, day two, there was this comment that was made, uh, around the Wolfie invitational time when it was like, oh, he'd clean up at the side events at Worlds. And I was like, oh, interesting. There's side events where people were playing. I was like, I like filed that away in the back of my mind. That's like in the quest log, side quest.

Yeah, yeah. And then you like, it's a, but it's, um, geofence or whatever. So we're in the area and there's like a green, like, level 27 and above. Okay, yeah, yeah. Okay, I don't, I have it, a lot cadet prestige. The, um, Kelly prestige. The, um, and then there, there's a bunch of side events.

set worlds in the various things. So, you know, Peep's actually played in one of the side events for TCG. I did. You competed in the juniors against all the seven-year-olds. What was the, okay, what was the event that you were competing? It was the,

it was just an on-demand. Yeah. So there's like on-demand ones, and then there's like the, like the flagship event, like side events where they're like just larger. Yeah, I played. Mine was just like they put you in a little pot of four people.

And then you do like a little round robin thing. And I was just a single player by myself. And so they put me with these three guys from New York that had like classic New York accents. And they all knew each other and they'd all been playing for like five years. And I was like, I'm so scared right now. That would be a scary environment.

I'm gonna drop a boss's orders. And let's see what happened. You're gonna drop a lilies right now? When you don't buy six prize, you're only gonna draw six cards? That's an awful nice price guy. Interesting. You're saying if you weren't able to pick it up? Oh, so you got your down to three prize cards.

Well, you don't realize it opens me up for special Red cards. You've played in the N. Yeah. And I'm noticing a, uh, you on the day of my Pokemon World Championships have decided to place in your active zone in EX Pokemon. You want to be in X. An EX Pokemon where you have two remaining prize cards. Well, you know, I got that you, buddy. I got a Badoot.

I got no items from your hand mister. Now, you're telling me. Nice item cars. Now, I've got allergies just as bad as the next guy. But you're telling me there's itchy pollen. Hey boss, I heard that they don't even got no more. But no. But it was, it was very fun.

They were very nice. I was immediately, one, not only because it's such a male dominated area. Yeah. Nerve-wracking to go in there as an AFAB person, but battling against experienced trainers versus me. I've been playing for like two months now. Yeah. And then the first guy whips out a team rocket deck. And I was like, oh, fuck.

But then I fucking smoked his ass. That is very, that is, yeah, I was gonna say a lot of what you said was anime because you described them as trainers. Battling trainers. And then, and then he whipped out of team Rocket Decker as if that was just the canonical villain. It is. Yeah. You're walking through like, overhead, walking through the open world,

and then suddenly you go past a guy in a suit. He goes, bling, Italian-American Gino has come to battle. By the way, if real people did what Pokemon trainers do, that would be harassment. Hey, hey, hey, hey, whoa, back up, dude. He's like, battle me now. My friend that came with me was in a Team Magma hoodie day two, and there was one guy that was like, oh, Team Magma, that's so cool. Make sure don't look anyone in the eyes. You don't want to start any battles in here.

And we were like, all right. Not like that. That's scary of you. Hey, you know, and it's, and that's one of those situations where I'm like, someone's making an attempt, I'm going to roll with the punches, even though it starts to drain my special meter. Oh, yeah. That's why you keep your defense high. Yeah. So you can sustain.

I'll be honest, I did, I burned out each day for a couple hours somewhere in the middle. But also maybe because I didn't have a specific target to hit. For sure. But things in the evening is a nice. The commercial break, knowing that there's something a little later. Dude, I did the same thing at every other worlds I've been to where I would just go back up to my hotel and to be honest, watch the event on my computer. Because sometimes you just got to do that. But yeah, my event was, so when you're playing like the video game battles in Pokemon Champions now, you're usually doing a best of three like match.

So you play a maximum of three games versus somebody. And it's called Open Team Sheet where they know what your team is and stuff. They had this thing that was just called the Pokemon Champions Open or something. I didn't know what it was going to be. I just saw people posting about it. And there was some other smaller tournament that registration had closed on. So I just signed up for it. And it was like 30 bucks for sign up.

And then I show up. And I realized that, Two things. One, nearly 300 people had signed up for this. It was 271 or something entrance. Two, it wasn't just like spectators at the event like myself. It was like people who would qualify for the world championship and had just been eliminated in day one. And we're just like, I'm going to place high in this because the prising for it is like really significant. Like you could get little tickets and then those tickets could be exchanged for like valuable items at the prize wall.

Yeah, you could, I don't know if it was, I guess maybe it was the prize wall in general or if it was just for TCG events or just for VGC, but some people, if they won like the bigger event, side events, we're getting like full sets of, like, full master sets of like, Prismatic Evolutions. Yeah, so if you top aided the event that I was in, uh, actually if you top 16, do you got, what's the electric one that I keep wanting to say vivid voltage, but it's not Vivid Voltage. Surging Sparse.

So if you were saw, you see why I wanted to say vivid voltage. And so if you top 16, you got a full master set of that. And then top eight was Prismatic. And I actually ended up one win off of Top 16. Now, a lot of people ended up with my record, which was five. I wasn't expecting, I expected to like waste $30 because I was the entrance fee and to just like get the experience of playing in a person because I'm going to, because there's a lot of stuff that I just didn't know about. Like you, you sit down that you hook up your switch to like a little dock that's like connected to Ethernet so that you can connect to the other player. They printed out our team sheets and like we had to wait for them to like hand them out to everybody. Like learning grammar. We were running late and I thought I was going to gonna get a game loss or something, but they hadn't even printed the team sheets when I got there. So I was like, oh, okay.

We're like, don't start yet. He's not here. He's not here. The prodigal son. Anywhere. No, and then I sat down, my first opponent was a French pro player who had played, that's how they say it, who had just played in worlds the day before. And so I was like, oh. And I just, I'm, I didn't, I don't compete in this game. This is my, first tournament and uh that was fun and i actually you know i ended up losing that one but i did i won the first game felt pretty i felt like they underestimated me and then i like made him respect me if you put your glasses up to that back yeah i i mean honestly the the pricing kind of surprised me because i won one out of three rounds which i'm happy i won any of them oh yeah because i got i've been

played for like two months but i got like 40 tickets from that which got me like a pack and a pack of sleeves, which I really like, which I was like, honestly, they had the ones that I was gonna buy online a few days ago. So I was excited about that, but it made me like, realize like, oh, I wish I would have played more than one day

because you can get some crazy shit. Like they had the like championship promo thing that you got one of the, did you grab on this? Well, I mean, spoiler alert. I ended up getting like 350 tickets or whatever from my, from my placement, which was like around the top 60s. You got a pack of Marlborough's rifle and ammo for a different girl. Hell yeah.

I got a Nintendo 64. No, but yeah, that promo ended up being like worth a lot of money. I had a really good experience. Everybody was super nice. I will say that for not that I've had some like horrific experience at a fighting game tournament prior, but like maybe the blend of some of it being sliced in half between the explicitly competitive element. and then also just a Pokemon experience space. I feel like it's definitely the least toxic competitive space. At the end of the day, we're all here because we like Pikachu.

And I feel like that is like a, that is a unifying element. Like not to say that there's not toxic people or whatever, but like on the whole I had such a positive experience and everybody I met was super nice or respectful. There's not a lot of like enthusiastic people attending a Tekken tournament because they just love Bryant. Yeah. And then also just like even though it was competitive, there was good sportsmanship.

It's funny though, and I'm learning this now playing in person events because this happens in magic, but not as much, I think, where like sometimes people are talking and you don't know if they're talking to themselves or they're talking to you and you got headphones in and you're like, you know, like, well, I didn't have headphones in because I was one of my things I just didn't know. Everybody's like, yeah, you bring noise-canceling headphones. That's what you do. Yeah. Where's your red t-shirt? Yeah, yeah. Toma, my, uh, my first opponent helped me out because he was like showing me. It was like, okay, uh, you know, after we hit confirm on this, then we exchange our team sheets. And that's when we started. He's like teaching me the grammar of it.

And I was like, oh, now I get to not look like an idiot the rest of my games. That's the, I think about any new skill, the most intimidating part is that you have to completely, Like shamelessly be a baby. Yeah, which especially I think when you're younger is really hard to compromise your pride like that But you should say like I don't know why some of these keys are black and white I'm too stupid. I'm so sorry. Can you tell me everything explain like I'm one? Yeah, I think that it's like starting to drift Already I can feel it and so I'm trying to hold on to this reminder and I've talked about it before on episodes recently, but I have a lot of shame and I have a lot of embarrassment

and I don't want to be bad at things in public. However, I have the shield of being new and I know that I'm performing well for how new I am. And so my fear is that as I continue and that timeline becomes longer, I will have less grace for myself. And that's what I'm trying to like, you know, fight.

Yes. Like the less grace of, because I know I can be really hard on myself. And part of the reason that I'm good at anything is because I am hard of myself. You know, it's not a good thing. It just is. But, uh, but yes, I'm like, I got a, oh. Yeah, it's difficult to triage, right?

Because it's like, okay, well, it's easy to say, just don't do it. But A, that's not advice. But also B, I do kind of need to do stuff. It's very humbling because it's like on some days you feel like you're a mega mind genius and on other days you feel like the dumbest boy on the world. I've been feeling a little bit of that recently because I decided I want to start actually competing in TCG and I've been going to just little local tournaments like nothing for championship points or anything and I'm so new to the game but getting like no wins in a

tournament is like oh I feel that how am I ever going to do this if I can't even. even get one and it's like well no and then I had to remind myself no three of those losses you were both one price card away or something like you held your own it's not always in the and you're just starting out like you're just starting out and there's so much it would be so weird if you won yeah exactly I saw a tweet that was like the VDC community is like so chill because people like spend their whole year preparing for an event only to go zero three and then just have to vibe it out. And like, still hang around and still like hang around and be happy for your friends and stuff like that. And so I think that part of it is seeing people who whom I respect not have a good

showing. Like let's say it's like a friend of mine didn't have a good showing in worlds. And I'm like, well, I still think that person's really good at the game. I still respect them. I, you know, it's like that doesn't mean that they're like the best, the worst boy online. They were on the whole on the whole world. On the whole world. That's like the, they've, home. That's honestly the hardest skill. That's like by far the hardest part. And I think especially when you're a kid, you think that,

you know, when you form all of your defaults, you're kind of taught that naturally being good at something is the best way to be good. It's like that's the right way to do it. When now, in retrospect, that's like the least impressive way. No one wants to watch that movie.

Yeah. No one wants to watch the movie called The Prodigy. And it's like, Every time they do it, they're like, wow, another, another triumph for you, Mr. Joe. Another two-minute fighting scene. Okay, I guess, whoa, great job, Rocky. You punched his head off. You know, it's really funny because I have been thinking of the TCG a lot, like,

Slate the Spire, too, which Jordan has gotten me addicted to. Yeah, I mean, that makes sense. Where, like, it'd be me and Jordan playing, and he'd be doing all these crazy combos, and I'd be like, how does he remember to do all of these things? And now I'm like, well, I got to pay attention to the fact that I have the kudai. And I, yeah, yeah, yeah, that third attack is going to be double damage. The real answer is that, yeah, playing that game, for all the information that comes in, like, family members' face is pushed out. Right.

A memory of a teacher's name is lost. It's the same thing where first time me and Jordan played the TCG, I'm thinking, I got a knock out his Pokemon. I got to knock it out. I got to knock it out. And now I'm disappointed because I lost the tournament. And then I think about it and I go, oh, well, now I'm thinking about how. Oh, no, they're ahead on prize cards, but they're down at three. That means I can activate special red card.

I'm learning to activate new parts of my brain. And it's like the number of, it's not like a... I'm prize mapping. Exactly. I'm doing all these. There's this phrase and magic, like the only life that matters is your last one. Which works universally, actually. Yeah, yeah, which is, well, I mean, some of us have nine.

Yeah, I got eight more running. Yeah. I, uh... I always land on my face. That's how I catch myself. Do you ever forget the feeling that if like you felt, I think I have like six more bad falls in me. Oh, for sure. I think by, every time I catch myself, like, because I'm, I've got decent balance and this is not a flex.

I just think every time I almost fall and catch myself, I go one day. I won't have the reaction. I won't have the reaction time for this. One day I'll do it and I'm like carrying dinner. I won't have the hand. And that's just it for the kid. I was experimenting with some new like team composition. and I'm really bad at BGC

until I've like learned all my game plans for everything and that sometimes feels like chess when you have to just like in chess you study previous chess games because you see how certain moves pan out over time and you learn to pattern mat you learn to pattern recognize and see certain situations and so certain things aren't always so obvious. And so my intuition in a new team may not be very good. It like may not apply. And sometimes that, that will often result in losing. And in fact, when you're trying

something new and developing something new, you have to lose a lot in order. And there's like, I'm sure, a metaphor for life in here. But you have to, you have to lose a lot in order to win a lot. And but losing sucks and it can make you feel bad about yourself, or at least for me, that's true. But when you were, I was showing you something. something after you finished recording the video. And everything I said, like, was like, okay, so my opponent's going to do this. And then they did it. And they're going to do this.

And this is going to happen. This is going to happen. Now, I'm losing. You know what I mean? Like, I'm losing, but I knew every single thing that was going to happen. Yeah. It's probably the same as like being able to hear a language fluently, but not quite having the speech down yet because you've pivoted.

But then also, like, you were playing with the mind, not the, not the spirit. because the spirit works faster, but it's not as strong. Yeah. Well, it's funny because there's so much information in being able to predict the information because it's like, when I see the team comp, I go, okay, now in my head I have like a working enclosed team. The latter, you don't know what moves people have or items. And so you like see the team comp and you might go, okay, well, that can be, that looks like this

team. So for now, I think it's going to be that team that's built like this. But then everybody likes to kind of put their little thing, their little sauce on it. And so then you're you're kind of looking for tells of, and you're playing this game where you're essentially trying to navigate a maze in the dark. Yeah. And you're like going, okay, well, there's, uh, I generally know how to go through these mazes, but I'm going to run into obstacles and enemies along the way. And I've been through a bunch of different mazes, but this one's layout is different. And so like, It's like the three tiers of Rubik's Cube, right? Where it's like normal person twisted around until they feel like they're getting closer.

Second, knowing like the algorithm, the, was it the lily, the poppy, the flower thing? Oh, I know what you're talking about, but I don't know any of the. That's stupid word. I learned, I saw Rubik's cubes on muscle memory from when I was 14. But that's the like, the third is then, I know what this pattern looks like. I'm doing the pattern, not the thing. I'm looking at the generalize because you have to like I watch a lot of like pro players play and I try to predict the moves that they make or I try to understand the moves that they make and if I'm watching someone who's a given commentary that's all the better. But I did this with magic too because it's like I want to I need to like mirror before I understand because like we're working on heuristics like you could map out kind of like on a given turn. There's maybe. three or four viable options that I have and then I have to think about what how those play into

what my opponent might do and a thing that stresses me out sometimes is that I don't feel like I can think or process fast enough and so that's why it helps when I like know what the game plan is or if I've played a team that has a guide on like how to play certain matchups because they give you like a more broad strategy but then when people are preparing for worlds Like Wolf, for example, Wolf Glick, former world champion, and I'd like to say friend. I don't want to jump that far. He has your guts, but, okay, well, that's fine. He loves me.

But anyway, like Wolf, like, he, on his Patreon, he, like, gifted us a year of his Patreon for his event, and he posted his prep doc for World. And that was 110 Pokemon Showdown replays of matchups. and the matchup docs and stuff. And in the dock is him with his friends, some of whom I've met like Marcus and other, or my coach, who were like area experts on specific archetypes of teams.

And then they're playing against each other, operating with the best heuristics that they have on how to navigate that matchup to win in the chat discussing, yeah, I'm not really thinking this line is like working about this. And then it's like over time, you are chipping away at the ice to come up with, a game plan. And then a lot of times, like a player will have those experiences and then write it up into a beautiful document and have processed, pre-chewed all that information for me. But

I shouldn't expect myself to be able to do that on day dot. Well, the truth is you don't ever learn to think faster. You learn to think less. There's like fewer things. You start to do like chunking where you like start to use the heuristics you have and break problems into more digestible parts. But it's almost like if you, if you do a lot of New York Times crosswords, and I don't. So when I look at them, it's a lot more like noise than when you look at them. Yes. You see what I mean? I know often where like, okay, there's some awkward letters here. There's a lot of words that they put in here to make up for that. There's, oh, it's sort of like a rare letter.

They're going to do like zero sum or something good at the end. But there's like, not to clumsily throw it back to like life in general. I think we have to. You know the way how like when you're a kid, you learn to read a sentence letter at time, then the word, then now we read like, okay, well I know what words probably coming after this. Yeah. It's like living.

I'm not going to, I'm moving through it. Or it's even like you've seen those social media posts that are like, you probably just read this sentence without even realizing that all the words were misspelled. Like, okay. Yeah, I don't know why they all have that tone. Because that part came after the sentence. I'm going to read it in order. But that, like, extrapolated out to, like, regular life is one of those shitty things about giving any kind of advice or suggestions for somebody in a different phase of their life.

Because the answer is like, well, just don't read one letter at a time. Read the whole sentence. Like, yeah, but you have to have done the boring part. We both are recent drivers. And I don't know what your experience was like for this because I think you had more driving experience in the UK than I did because I had never lived in the UK nor driven there. That would make any sense. Yeah, that wouldn't make any sense. But there, I believe it's called automatic memory.

I could be wrong. But when I first started driving, I couldn't listen to music and I couldn't talk. I'm like white knuckle raw processing every scenario that I'm in. I couldn't chat. Like, I'm going like mirror left, mirror. Like, I'm literally like doing everything like a way-mo. Like a mechanical. Blub-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b.

I'm not having a light-ar camera. Obviously, gradually. So then, and then over time, you have a type of memory that develops that allows you to not have, like, to do that active processing. it's like stored and memoized. Lane position, big one. Oh, true. Now it's, I know how big my car is, not how big cars are generally. I'm not going like, okay, well, it would always be safe if I'm this close to the lane when I'm reversing.

And it's like, no, I just know how big my car is. I know how to flip your stuff. When Anastasia is driving me in her car, which is not my car and has different dimensions, when she pulls into a parking spot quickly, it scares the shit out of me because I think I'm driving and I know that I don't know the yes that's not the way my car that's not no that my car would hit right now keep that in mind yeah yeah but like lane position and um speed I know what 35 feels like I know what 65 feels like for a really long time I'm like well I'm just I'm just gonna keep looking till I know what the number is now I know when I'm speeding well speaking of speed something I wanted to talk about today you're gonna show me it was

I show Speed, which is, it's a clip. Sorry, Anastasia's not here. Sorry, I had to do. I love this joke. I keep saying it. This 100-year-old podcast is still this transitions the old fashion way. Reddit, let's get this guy. My grandfather.

But speed is often in clips. The guy's famous at this point. Yeah, he shows speed in how quick as a cent to stardom has been. He's bigger than us at this point. I don't know about that. I think it's way big So I saw a clip of him And Jason the wean

And some other creator Who I can't remember who was present in this And this clip Bummed me out But it bums me out in a way That I think we could have a production Productive discussion Or a production is what I like to call

Prudent Speed trying to talk about emotions Most of the last time you cry Be honest Last time you cried So speed They asked When's the last time you cried

And then Speed says something that's relatable to the two of us, I think, which is that he last cried to a video game. Respect, big respect. I was playing on, so walking dead. We're humans. Humans have emotions. Yes, you can block out these nerve signals.

That's what's called emotions. Emotions are nerve signals that we send to our brain. Yeah, it is kids are. What's funny. Emotions is a nerve single? Emotion. When we have emotions? No.

Somebody said. It's like, I like, so, First of all, he said signal and we heard that. And I feel like, I'm like, look, me. I guess you don't listen. It's like, it's like I don't want to shame someone for being illiterate unless they're trying to shame me for being literate. Yeah.

Don't, don't make my mask slip. Yeah. It's like, no, I didn't say singles, Jason the lean. I said signals. Ever heard of them? This might make more sense if you heard me. I know. It's, okay, anyway.

I do think that like, oh, God, I fucking hate this term because it's so corny. but anti-intellectuals. Yeah, this took me back to school. This took us back to school. This took me back to like the type of thing that I was made fun of for in school, which was like it was for quote unquote being smart. Right. And I,

and I, I just don't want to be made fun of. I just want to, I just want to hang. I just want to like be with everyone else. Being smart is just, or like as a term is just a really what it is is caring. Yeah.

doing. It's like, oh my God, you care so much. Oh, you're so defensive. It's all the same thing because it's like, crabs in a bucket, get back down here, no one's special, no one's anything. Yeah, that's kind of what it feels like, and that is so frustrating because it feels like, stop expressing yourself, stop being, it, it takes away from earnesty and, like, feeling things genuinely. Yeah. Because it, it, it coats everything in, like, a layer of irony and in black pillidness. And it's, like, completely non-negotiable because if so, if, if, if, Someone's like, let's not say anything. And then some, you're like, yeah, but there's stuff to say. It's, you can't do anything. It's, yeah. And it's like when people are like proud about not reading things and stuff. The easiest path? I, I, that is, I, I, I, you say this a lot.

And it's one of my favorite things that you say, which is like, how convenient that the easiest, the easiest thing for you. Oh. Is also what you think is the best thing. The first thought is the right one. Yeah. One of the odds. The one where you're not challenged in any way. You get to stay the way you are.

And then it's. also just like the invalidation of other people's experience. Yeah. Where it's like I actually don't care if you care about different things than I care about. But you care about something, probably. And why were you gesturing to me to then bring it down? Yeah. Why did you come off of your hand?

I shake it and you go, uh, gay? Why are you touching my hand? Yeah. Oh, you stop glazing my hand, bro. What the fact is normal? By cowtowing and bowing your, you're pledging your feeling. to my hand. Yeah, I mean, that's soy. It's not nerve singles. Signals, nerve signals. It's not nerve signals. It's not nerve anything. He's going to, he's going to explain incorrectly. So like what speed is saying is that yes,

my peers, you are laughing at me because I cried at a video game. But what I'm here to say is that The stimuli that I experienced from, you know, my engagement in the game led to a physiological response. I didn't choose this to be part of my brand of what I cry at. Yeah. This happened complete, which I do think to be fair, to the streamer mindset, to like the hyperlocked and streamer mindset is like, but that's not on brand. Yeah, it is.

I choose to cry at stuff. Yeah, yeah. You need to frame long emotions. I cry and seeing my analytics go down. I was sitting there looking at. at my TV frame-mogging Ellie. I was staring and I was saying, I don't love Clementine. I hope

she gets et by a zombie. Don't worry, guys. It didn't happen. But the... I cried, actually, yeah, I cried my eyes out for my... It was like the fourth day at college. I was in my room. I played the... I had been like saving the final episode

of the Walking Dead game to play because I knew it was going to be kind of emotional. I remember playing... That's a telltale? Yeah. Yeah. And I remember being ashamed of crying in my room and then not telling anyone. Like just being like, oh, dude. What if they say something?

Games aren't real. I think this is in the zeitgeist of, in our zeitgeist, this might even be more shameful to admit than something epic and Chad, like crying to the Last of Us game, like you in Speed. But I haven't played it. What do you mean? There's plenty of us. Anyway, there's lots of us.

I'm looking at all of us here. But I cried playing five. I have emblem awakening on 3DS in my dorm room. And I don't even remember. I can tell you a single fact about the story other than Martha and Lucina are related. Oh, they can't date. They can't be in love.

Simply. They're dating. But the- Well, that's another thing I feel like it gets thrown out with this like anti- I know, anti-curity. It's like, I don't want to think, eh, is that you throw away things like, actually, sometimes you just cry from the quantity of any emotion. There's,

every now and that, like, there's a maybe three times. I've been incredibly hungry and then bitten into like the best sandwich ever. And I've welled over like, oh, that's really nice.

There is this thing. This is, there's like a lot more to this. But I'm wondering if other people have experienced this. There's a like a black community thing with, there's like a joke that it's like black people will make fun of you for anything. and it can be like,

so I was go to the store. And he's like, this man said, go into the store. And I'm like, that's a little bit how I feel. Like, how immediately the jump, the jump was to like,

this man said nerve signals. Like if I'm like watching a bill, I'm watching an educational video. Like, this man said gany me. Bro's talking about the moons. Okay, dude. It's like,

you are, you chose. to watch this. Hey, what do you mean? Yeah. Bro is talking about Lydacane. I'm watching the pit.

Oh, why is everyone sick? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not nerve anything. Then what is it? Nerve is like what you feel in the body. Our brain is full of neurons. What is he talking about?

We have no signals. Neurons, nerves, same thing. Valid crash out. Can I say that? A hundred percent. This is like, this is me in season two of killer dinner, available soon on second try. Try Guy's new show.

Crash. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I get emotional, dude. I have some valid crash outs, let's say. So I just, I feel very kindred with speed here. Dude, even the, I feel like it's been kind of repaired now as a term, but even the basic utility of crash out, I feel like is, to invalidate to be like, like now we actually, We just use it like that, like we are now.

But I've heard so many times when, like, something like this happens, it's valid. And it's like, yeah, but you got kind of emotional. Oh, that. Oh, my God. Like, that is also wrong. Well, people do that with protesters. They do it, like, with women. It's Tim Poole's only method.

Yeah, yeah. It's like, well, no, I think we should set every baby on fire. And they're like, but I think that's bad. Okay. Calm right. Are you going to cry? Is it going to feel? Am I bold?

that's a great image by the way he's doing the invincible think mug thing new wrong us nerves same thing we have nerves

inside of our brain Jason the wean comma that was that was maybe my in front of this whole video

was like Jason the wean it's like whatever the fuck the wean is this is also why I do feel like

you should have to do like in Korea I have to do mandatory like military service. If you want to become a streamer, you should have to do like two years in, um, like working at a diner. Oh my God. Yes. You know what I mean? You need to be humbly socialized.

Or start when you're 30. Oh yeah. That's true. Yeah, you got a couple options. You need a little time to chew. You need some context on like regular life. You shouldn't be allowed to have this much influence over people younger than you until you like, they scan your singles in your brain. And they check for the frontal lobe. And once you reach a certain map, you're like, you should be able to, go for it go say something stupid because now it's not as important Jason the wing is Adams Jason the way he says it perfect it is possible to repeat is Adams is Adams Bro everything is Adams everything in his world is Adams you're Adam we don't actually feel pain that's just atoms that's just disrupting the we don't feel pain I feel pain every day

theoretically we don't hear every day theoretically we don't feel pain Pain is this exactly. Like, we see a cut. It's a nerve signal getting sent to our brain. Like, yo, this, this. He's doing like a really, I would say serviceable, explain like I'm five description of a lot of these kind of larger concepts. The issue is like he's doing explaining like I'm five to three year olds. Right.

And it goes above my pay grade. Elaborating it into Adams on nerve endings. Yeah, no. We watch Paul Patrol. Dog doesn't even have a job. Doesn't even fight fires, dude. I guess Blue's a detective. So it was also a cop in Blue's Clues.

Well, is someone who wants to solve mysteries automatically a cop? Yes, sir. Okay. Including escape rooms, New York Times Crosswood puzzles. You get your badge. I did a tour. I did a tour in medieval murder mystery. Yeah.

Yeah, I did another battle through a little game where I was a tiny rat in a big cage. Oh, yeah. But yeah, what he's, what, and he's like, this is the funniest thing in the world to him. It's, um, unbeatable counter. We actually like, like, I'm not an expert on this stuff, but, but it is like, um, the easy example is like you stub your toe. Yeah. And you go, oh, that's about to hurt. And then like, you know, because and then there's like two different forms of interpreting pain because the way, the reason we have the ability to interpret pain is from an evolutionary standpoint because you need to know, like, what is harmful and what to.

avoid. One is utility and then one is like a bit of a floor. It's like when you close a door too hard behind you to go out. You're like, oh wait, that didn't hurt. I just, my brain thought I did something that. You don't feel anything. Which it literally might be, might as well be what they're saying. And when he said, I feel, when Jason the ween, the ween said, uh, I feel pain every day. It's like, bro, like, you're so close. And you're, you, he wasn't done with the sentence. It's like, I know, because. I feel pain every day. Now they're doing the thing. where they're just arguing, and so people aren't hearing each other out. And I didn't mean this to be a takedown of who I assume is Marlin and also Jason the ween.

More just like, this is an experience that felt very relatable to me in my youth. Especially this like, I tell you what, this would not happen like this if it was a one-on-one conversation. Yeah. But because there's someone else to like flex in front of, be like, look how crazy this guy is. And then like, yeah, this guy's so crazy. It's like, well, I don't want to seem like I'm too curious. Yeah. I don't want to like listen to someone, not in front of another guy.

Everything in his world is atoms. We're all made of atoms. Yo, this is how like, this is how Isaac Newton must have. Oh my God. No, the apple hit you on the head. There is an invisible force. Okay, buddy. I will, hold on.

I'm going to write some math down real quick. A couple of guys with like pompadores and stuff like dabbing each other up. Like, this guy's so stupid. This guy's crazy. Kind of. This is maybe kind of what it was like. I don't know for sure. But it does look like a colorized version of that.

It feels so good to be right. Yeah. But it is so lazy to take the path of least resistance. And, you know, what's the thing I feel like right now? That's probably right. Versus just listening to someone, having a little curiosity, especially in content because they're all, you know, no one can ever. You know, like the Fast and Furious movies.

they leaked like some of the contract details and there's all these specifics about how like no one can win to fight against each other there has to be the same number of physical hits on someone the Vin Diesel rock thing it's all these stupid specifics because everyone is their own brand everyone is a protagonist it feels like the protagonist cannot have a moment

of self-reflection and growth because there's people watching because you have the aura you have an aura meter with chat where you need to be peacocking and maximizing your aura at all times. You'll lose to speed. This is a battle. You'll get L's in the chat.

And L's in the chat is essentially a manifestation of neurons. It's singles. Yeah, yeah. It's actually singles. The wean. The wean. The wean.

It's derogatory. It's like you're saying Dwayne. The way. Jason. The wean. That's really good. And then I'm also like, he might just be clip farming. Because who cares?

I think when your life is this, when so much of your time is this, that's who you are. I agree and also there's just not any footage of him being an intellectual. So I get a tweet that's like, we have now concluded the experiment as Jason the we, it was conducted by Harvard University. We almost got it right. Almost human. What's the matter day? What's a matter day? What is you laughing for? Nothing.

You know what a matter daddy is? What? You're not getting even no joke, bro. You think I'm saying, be like, yo, what's the matter daddy? Huh? That's the one.

Wait, so it was a conversation that, like, even brushed up against something interesting, and then they hit the ligma. Oh, okay. It's literally like, wait. Smokeball. The five-year-olds of my chat,

I'm losing interest. And that's, and that's the thing. It's like, it's candy, right? It's like, you can promote intellectual curiosity. to young people. I feel like it's like something Bill Nye did. Yeah, they like it. And yeah, it's like it's like your kid will like broccoli if you learn how to cook. Yeah, good point. You

know what I mean? Like it's like like you can like sure there's going to be foods that you don't like but there can also be foods that are good for you and tasty. Yeah, it's a really It's like if a baby is left to their own devices. Yes, they will only want to eat cookies and and cake. The fact of the left alone they won't eat so you really kind of have to get in there. They don't know how to get the food. They're stupid. Can we say it? I mean, they're morons. They're all unemployed. Um, they do not have to hold on. Let's get some doves in the chat away. I do the, I mean, this is another ruin term. The sigh of, or like the long term conspiracy theory to turn even using the word intellectual into a cringe thing. Oh yeah. To block it to basically just remove all the

descriptors for this thing, for this problem of people deliberately not wanting you to like grow and learn and explore and think. Right. Keep you dumb. Keep you local. keep you down. Those people are bad. Instead it's like it's a thing about like an intellectual is somebody who's born smart is what it has been made into. But there's no, no. It's just thinking. It's like so much of, I mean, even the scientific method, it's like you see this with COVID stuff. And it's like, uh, like I don't, there's like a lot of the stuff about the Fauci stuff and I don't know everything because I'm tapped out of that. But there is like there was something where, It's like a private email of Bouchy having some doubts in like a narrative about like COVID's origins or something.

And then and then people like those emails were leaked by like someone in Trump's orbit. And it's used as a gotcha. And then people are like, yeah, here he is speculating privately instead of publicly in his position of power and public help. Don't think. Don't ever think. Don't ever be. And it's like, okay. Now it's like now you can't even express.

Like this isn't like behind closed doors. He was saying slurs. It's like behind closed doors. He's like, I have my doubts about this thing. He's thinking. Because the problem is that the scientific method in having any intellectual credibility requires admitting when you're wrong. And admitting when you're wrong is admitting defeat to people who never admit that they're wrong.

who never admit that they're wrong because they're sociopaths. Yeah, I've never done that because I'm always right. So he must be wrong because he's doing it. In your new video, there's a guy that you, and the guy was like a deeply stupid man. And then the guy in that video that you were reacting to kept saying, and I've always been right. Like he's locking it in.

Like he's reminding everyone that no matter, I don't know what I'm saying or what you think, actually, according to computer science. And it's like, that's why it's, like, it's rarely a thing that scientists say and often a thing that sociopaths and dictators say. Yeah, 100%. Because if you have even like a fraction of faith in someone and then they say that, then you think it's sincere. Why would somebody say something so outlandish and direct if they didn't genuinely believe it?

As opposed to, like, I don't know, I'm right. I mean, I parroted it. I don't know how much of it's going to end in the video, but like the sentiment that all. always get stuck in my craw is like, hey, being wrong feels exactly like being right. That feeling you're having, those nerve singles, are not indicative of you being right. That is the starting point. That is the opening credits of the movie. Now it's time to watch the movie.

The best thing you can do for yourself as a young person, in my opinion, is intellectual curiosity and being wrong, being okay with being wrong. Because if you're okay with being wrong, then you will put yourself into far more situations where you learn things. You grow and you learn the right thing rather than like calcifying yourself into like a kind of a aura statue. Who is being made fun off behind your back? Because people see it. People see you being wrong and being arrogant. The problem is that like the problem is that you just become rich and famous by doing all the bad stuff.

Yeah. And then we moralize that. Because it like doesn't matter if, it doesn't matter if you did suicide force, you can do a backflip. Yeah, that's right, you can do karate or whatever. You know what I mean? Like if you can do a backflip,

then like honestly everything else is, it's water under the bridge. It's like scales as opposed to like two separate sets of scales. It's unrelated, man. Yeah, and so in scales is to, it's something that dragons. Yeah, and what else and how do we tie that to something? All right, let's continue.

I want to see where this, your shoes undied, resolves in the next 20 seconds. Your shoes untied, bro. So many of them's right. Yeah. You see? You know what I'm talking about? You see? He's the research it.

That's the energy cycle. He's a 2005 baby. How old is Jason the weed? I don't know if he met. He's younger than him or older than him. But I think Jason the weed's older than speed. I think Jason the weed actually is surprising. All right.

Oh, Jason, the Weenjust, 2004? Oh. I thought Peeps just had it off the top of the head. Peeps did Google it. I'm not going to put that on Peeps. I'll put Peeps to know all 1,035 Pokemon. Before you got here, there's Anastasia had a very valid complaint about not being able to delete photos on her phone without them being deleted from ICloud, but she just didn't want to have them locally. and the only option is to like downscale them.

And I found a post on Reddit from a few years ago where someone said they were looking for a solution and the top reply was every day, go into your camera roll and look up that day and then organize the photos from that day. And everybody was like, that's exactly what I wanted. A little ritual, it's not too much where. I'm like a daily ritual

for the rest of your layer. That's what you, you were looking for the ritual of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was crazy. Anyway, um. Anyway,

you're weird if you do that thing where, uh, you make a bunch of custom shortcuts so that your phone has like, all one color of apps. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. And then it has to open shortcuts every time you tap it and then forward from

shortcuts to the app. You're a weird person. Those, it's a different type of person that I like, but then I don't, I think they might have made it so that you don't have to go through shortcuts now for custom icons? That's the case.

Are they back to being normal? You are weird and I'm okay with it. It's like less annoying. Okay, okay, okay. Me personally, I'm strongly the belief that you should never try anything, never explore. Ah, those are the singles you've been feeling. Actually, what you said about they changed it? No, it's bad still, the way I would help my argument.

What's that? I'm receiving nerve singles to my brain that are saying that, saying that we are wrapping up this episode but we'll be continuing this episode with similar exclusive patreon content on patreon.com slash sadboys via sad boys nights or patron exclusive podcast. Huh, interesting. I'm hearing voices telling me to kill. No, right. What if instead we just do a podcast on Patreon?

Oh, sorry, that's actually a way better idea. There's like, okay, on nights today, I do kind of want to look at R slash defending AI. Yes, dude. Reddit. I want to look at the subreddit where people defend their use of AI art because it is going to be hilarious. Yes. I, the one of the few cases where I will mercilessly bully. And, well, keep an eye out for my next video because I'm also kind of doing that.

And you, just before recording, release a new video. Oh, snap. I did. That's wild. Forget about that. Anyway, I got a new video out. It's about Dejaun Love, the fraudster who pretended to be in the NFL and defrauded 26 women of over $1.5 million. The Rizzler.

And then his digital footprint is hundreds of videos long of him lying to people about being in the NFL and then having women who he defrauded posting the videos that he sent them. We end every episode of Sandboys with a particular phrase. We love you. And Ressori.