Sad Boyz - The Adventures of Snowflake and Safespace (w/ Abelina Sabrina)

Episode Date: August 26, 2020

We're joined by the Amazing Abelina Sabrina to discuss bad dates, tasteless new marvel superheroes, and everything in between. Follow Sabrina https://www.youtube.com/user/XxSabrinuhxX https://www.twitch.tv/abelinasabrina Watch Us https://twitch.tv/sadboyzpod https://youtube.com/sadboyzpod Follow Us https://instagram.com/sadboyz https://twitter.com/sadboyz Outro music @prod.typhoon & @ysoblank

Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. And I'm Jarvis' friend Jordan from online. Oh, that's pretty cool. And we are joined by a very, very special guest today. The one, the only star of stage and stream, Abelena Sabrina. Hi. What's up, Sabrina? Thanks for having me. It's been a morning a morning and again i'm sorry if i brought over uh the awful deadly disease of uh audio issues itis oh no no those come built into those come built into

me in technology thankfully it comes with the package every single stream we think we found the vaccine and we are wrong every single time if uh our audience isn't familiar with you um you are a you stream on twitch you make youtube sketches uh i they're amazing they're relatable they you know um everybody should go check you out on youtube or instagram or twitter uh what am i leaving out jordan how do we make our guests feel extremely welcome here with a great intro? I've got a way. I've got a pretty good way. Oh, yeah?

Abelina. What's up? Abelina. Yes. Do you feel validated when cool people say that you're cool? So important that you say yes. So I really hope she says yes. Is that a bad thing to say yes a little bit?

I mean, is that shit? I'm going to go. I'm going to say yes. I'm i mean is that shit i'm gonna go i'm gonna say yes i'm gonna answer for myself i feel validated when cool people say i'm cool well then let me just say guitar solo jordan's cool he's not even wearing we're not wearing glasses he's popping his collar here my headphone My headphone. I'll pop my collar. Oh, wow. That was. Now,

now, now. Oh, Andy's got a Budweiser. How do you? You can't see it right now, but I do know how to smoke it. It doesn't hurt at all.

Is this that kind of stream? Cause I'm ready. Oh my God. What's up everybody? It's me. Oh yeah. Let's get fucking hammered on my fancy water. There's no laws when you're on the claw or you're drinking something else or you just don't want to go to jail.

That's right, it's me, Cool Jordan. Steal stuff from your stepdad. Is there a kids TV show where the evil villain's name is Dr. Claw? Yeah. Is that maybe Inspector Gadget or something? I wouldn't know this because I'm cool, but it is Inspector Gadget. He's just called Claw, but I believe he's also a duck. Okay, so now that I know that, I could say, there are no laws when your name is Claw. That's my impression of Claw from Inspector Gadget

having not watched that television program in 20 years. Sabrina, what do you think of that? I haven't seen that show in forever, but I feel like there's probably somebody on YouTube with that username, like Dr. Claw, and I bet they make all of their videos about like, ooh, want an iPhone out of a claw machine that I actually own,

but don't say that in the comments, please. Like one of those. Hey, I love playing CSGO. Go check out my not gambling website that i'm semi-involved in don't look too close uh cs go to the polls everybody anyway i cool jordan just wanted to hop off my is my collar still up because the color is like in it but yeah i cool jordan sorry one sec is that in frame uh okay yeah how do you even get a budweiser in the uk do they they sell it there? I thought it was

America's beer or something. Hey, when you need a Bud heavy, bro, you can, you can get a Bud heavy, bro. It costs, does it cost a little too much more than it should be? The quality of the beer than it is for this bit? Not really worth it. I'll tell you. But I just wanted to get off my, my board, longboard or whatever. Get off your longboard? Yeah, or whatever they ride, cool people like me ride. Definitely longboard. Yeah, longboards for sure.

And I just wanted to say, hey, welcome to the podcast, Sabrina. I'm going to let my dorky friend Jordan come back, but I just wanted to say, hey, you're welcome to be on the show. Thanks for stopping by, cool Jordan. Yes, finally. There's something over there that I have to go and address away from the camera

that's cool I assume it's a cool thing to address I feel so validated right now guys thank you that's not happened in the history of this show so you clearly have brought us

some good juju to be graced by Cool Jordan thanks hey thanks cool jordan yeah this is this is a six-pack i worked really hard on and thanks thank you for complimenting my kickflip hey everybody oh wow it's it's pretty difficult to do a kickflip on a longboard yeah yeah i guess oh yeah i guess if you're cool even harder on my roller skates. I guess we should move on. Thank you, Cool Jordan, for stopping by. Oh, thank you, Cool Jordan.

Bye. He's good. Welcome back on the show anytime. It's funny that both of us have cool alter egos that act exactly the same way. Yours is me. But anyway, we talk about how we're doing. This is a comedy podcast about feelings. Sometimes we talk about our feelings. Other times we talk about how we're doing. This is a comedy podcast about feelings. Sometimes we talk about our feelings.

Other times we talk about dumb stuff. And it'll mostly be dumb stuff, I imagine, today. But I do want to ask, Sabrina, how has your week been? You know what? I think I've actually had a pretty good week. I mean, granted, we are in quarantine. But I'm telling you like I just started twitch streaming like two almost three weeks now and I kind of like it and I didn't

know I would like it this much but I do I've tuned in a bunch you're so natural at it what was the catalyst was it just this is something I can do and I fancy a little bit of a little bit of fun haven't tried this out before well like especially like during quarantine I needed something to pass the time so I've been playing a lot of video games and I had a little bit of fun. I haven't tried this out before. Well, especially during quarantine, I needed something to pass the time. So I've been playing a lot of video games. And I had a lot of fun when I would play games with Mimi. And so I thought, well, I kind of like the social aspect of narrating what we're doing. I should just do Twitch.

Yeah, I know. How many weeks have we been streaming for, Jordan? Is it like two or three? Did we start at the same time? Really? I think this is what, stream number six, maybe? Stream number six. I have no idea.

Look, I've lost count. Are you talking about you and me? Wait, have we done a stream before? Which one's which? Jordan, Jarvis? I was going to say that Sabrina looks way more professional for the amount of time that we've been streaming. I just noticed that my Instagram is still on a live stream i'm sorry everybody come over to twitch.tv

my apologies for whatever uh one-sided conversation you all were just listening to check out the other sides on the internet goodbye there's more per conversation uh that's fun yeah your setup is insanely nice nice. Sabrina. I literally am just using like, I don't have a nice camera at all. I just have like a crappy little, uh, Canon M 50. It's like what? A $400 like camera that I use. It's a great like budget camera for sure. Yeah.

It's a budget camera. It's not like a nice thing, but I did recently buy a nice new lens where like the little F stop is like 1.8. So it's like, that's where you get that good shit behind you that's the stuff yeah absolutely people think that bokeh is caused by like the f-stop of the camera but what the f-stop of the camera gives you is little people to like put cool things behind you that are blurry yeah that's actually anytime you're dissatisfied with something you've said they just whisper into the microphone they go no no no it's cool you're great

hey it just makes everything more beautiful no it looks great and you're that's what you're dissatisfied with something you've said, they just whisper into the microphone. They go, no, no, no, it's cool. You're great. Hey. It just makes everything more beautiful. No, it looks great. And that's what you're doing for the most part? Are you going to be playing more games? Are you going to be doing more? You've been doing watch parties? Yeah. Oh, my God.

Oh, yeah. I'm, so I decided I want to do watch parties, but I decided if I'm going to do it, I'm going to definitely go in my own way. And so I'm kind of surprised that people are into it but we're watching a korean drama oh and a k-drama a k-drama and so i'm kind of surprised that a lot of people got really sucked into it but like the the cool thing about the one that we're watching is that it's about a south korean woman who gets stuck in north korea and she has to try to figure out how to get back without getting killed but the best part is that when making the show, they had real people who

defected from North Korea consults for the show. So everything is accurate for the most part, like the hair, the outfits, the accents, just the way of life. And that is what I really like. What's the name of the show? What's the name of the show? Oh, it's called Crash Landing on You. And it just came out on Netflix. I've like found myself in like an internet rabbit hole of reading accounts of people who've escaped from North Korea. And it is it is harrowing. And there's also like, I watched a video recently about Americans that have like lived in North Korea for a really long time. People who crossed the demilitarized zone during the Korean War or during other occupied...

Because they have soldiers on the DMZ. And so there's a few people, like white dudes,'ve just like gone over and become celebrities, question mark. Like Kim Jong Il or Kim Jong Un is a fan of film and like makes they make movies that are propaganda movies, but they need white people to like be Americans. And so the Americans become these like movie stars it's very strange nice to have an opportunity for white people i know um they've been having a hard extensively on your stream earlier you were saying about how white men in particular don't get enough chances in hollywood oh yeah they yeah it's just so hard for them don't need to go over here i guess just go and watch sabrina's vod i mean, it's all there. It's all 15 hours.

It's a full, yeah, unbroken eye contact with the camera. Just fully from memory. Thousands and thousands of words of diatribe. Flames outside. Jordan. Hey. You're looking spiffy today. You are.

How's your week been? Oh, thank you. Thank you both. My week, well, that actually really made me very happy. I didn't realize how much I liked being called Spiffy. Yeah, well, it's been pretty good. Get used to it, Buster. Young man, you come home looking like that,

I'll call you Spiffy just as much as I want to. Yeah, it's been pretty good. I have been a little bit overwhelmed with a particular project. Some people know what it is, I guess. It's ARX. It's my D&D show that's coming back. It's a particular project. Some people know what it is, I guess. It's Ox. It's my D&D show that's coming back. It's a fantastic show. It's fine. The best produced D&D podcast

this side of the Mason-Dixon line. Is it? Just kidding. In the world. I also couldn't really tell you where the Mason-Dixon line is. Yeah. I don't know which side

the Adventure Zone is of the Mason-Dixon line. It's a good podcast, is what I'm saying. Yeah. In some ways. I'm not on it, so. Yeah. Well, that's why it's so some ways i'm not on it so yeah well that's what's so good

yes dude i got him i never would have guessed you were into dnd because that cool jordan persona you saw is usually so prevalent yeah exactly so cool so i look like without my shades by the way really you don't think that you don't think i've got that dorkus energy no i never got that but you know what i do remember i think one of the first times we met i think we were talking about uh i think it was like maybe at like gus and eddie's like house party one time but you i think we were talking about like which animals we would and wouldn't eat and i think did you say something like it depends on their intelligence probably oh that sounds based on the way that i am there's lots of smart animals animal species yeah pigs are smart pigs are smart i am now a vegetarian but it's only because i

haven't found an animal smart enough that i want to eat really i'm always seeking the smartest the ultimate oh you're seeking the smartest animals yeah i'm seeking a an animal smart enough to be worthy of me eating. Oh. Because I want to gain its intelligence. Because that's how that works. Exactly. I haven't tried eating yet, but I assume that's how that works.

I just had some plantain chips and I can currently see the ground. Quick shout out to plantain chips. I'm obsessed with them. Those are great. There's this place in LA called Takaya and I order from it all the time. It's a bad habit that I have where I'm just like postmating every workday the same lunch. And it's just like a burrito and some plantain chips and a Coke and I just go to town on it. So shout out to plantain chips.

This podcast is sponsored by plantain chips. What cuisine is that? It's quote unquote mexican and they call it modern mexican which i take issue with because it's not like mexico isn't modern mexico i don't know like uh it's it's it's it's one of those weird things where it's like gentrified mexican so that's so they call it they call it modern that's hilarious but it's organic quote unquote you know i don't ask many questions a good old spot what's up with you all though how are your lives what's your give me actually can i get this is my new every episode thing i want a mope score mope percentage level of the week anywhere between zero and 100 zero

being i am i have reached true nirvana i have rid myself of all dharma and suffering i am the i am the god amongst you or 100 oh my god my god, oh my god, I am only mope. I've been consumed. Jarvis, what's yours? So I'm going to give you two answers. One for like the immediate moment and two for like how this like week overall has been. Current moment, I'm still shaking off a bit of the like pre-show stress of organizing stream shit. Cause I left,

I like decided to do the stream in windows at the last minute. And so I was like, but so I would say like four or five on the whole, it's like on the whole this week, it's two or maybe I would say two or lower because it's been a really great week for me. I'm on a streak of good weeks that are not bleak. And that's neat. I'm just trying to rhyme at this point. Oh my God, those were original lyrics?

No, I'm an Eminem of myself. Sabrina, this is the freestyle episode. So if you want me to lay down a beat and just go off. It's all musical. Yes. There used to be a lot more just go off. It's all musical. Yes. There used to be a lot more freestyle rapping when we did this in person. I don't know why. How many times do you think we have to do an extended slam poetry segment before we have minus followers?

I would say one. Yeah, probably just the one big one, huh? Yeah. Sabrina, what's your MOAB score this week? This week, I don't know. It's hard what's your mope score this week this week i don't know it's hard to say it's it's been a pretty good way okay so 100 is bad and mopey and zero is like nirvana right oh my eva's coughing so right now i'm at like 100 right now oh for those of you who don't know this is eva oh say hello eva what would you like to say she's she's one of the guests now

i hope that's okay oh that is more than okay let's get her let's get does she have a writer i mean look how sad she looks like she does look sad that is a sad boy right there by the way i do have to say uh just a quick psa uh you, the podcast is called Sad Boys. A lot of people are like, hey, I'm not a boy. Am I allowed to listen to Sad Boys? Am I allowed to? Boys with a Z is actually, a lot of people don't know this, a gender neutral term. We here at Sad Boys don't believe in the gender binary. And so we are all boys with a Z.

And so it's all inclusive. Just wanted to, just wanted to let everyone know who is curious about that. Kind of like how there's like Latin X and, and all that stuff now, I'm assuming. Yeah. We are boy, boy Z. I love it. I am so curious. What is the, I think there was a really interesting dialogue about it. And then I fell out of the loop on that specific conversation, but conversation. But Sabrina, can I ask you for your perspective? Sure.

I've heard mixed perspectives on the idea that Latinx, A, obvious benefits of being inclusive, but then small negative connotations of it being something that white culture has introduced to another culture as a solution to a problem that they may not have like electively said that they have is this making any sense it's something i've heard a couple times no and i do understand that and i do see both sides but i definitely don't know if i would say it's like white culture that's uh that that's influencing the whole like idea for

like latinx although i do see that a lot of white people as well as like more progressive Hispanic people, um, or Latin people, uh, that, that, that they use it to try to be allies, which is nice. Um, but I mean, I'm, I'm Mexican. Uh, both of my parents are Mexican. And so like in Mexican culture, we have a word called machismo. I don't know if you've ever heard of that, but it basically like you know the the patriarchy in the family and so i mean like the gendered language hasn't been like a huge like problem but i mean i think that people are just trying to tackle that machismo kind of culture in like the little ways that they can. Cause it's not like you can like bust into people's houses and it's like, hey, stop making your five-year-old daughter

wash the dishes while your 14-year-old son leaves on the couch. So that would be a pretty cool superhero. Yeah, I smell a screenplay. Yeah. Marvel, hello, Marvel. Well, it just reminded me that didn't, weren't there like Marvel superheroes announced that had really like faceless names?

Hold on. Yeah, I have to double check the names. Before we check anything, just to make sure this retained even, I believe it was something along the lines of one of them was called Snowflake. Oh. For context. Oh, yeah. for context oh yeah with without context the eu makes complete sense i have a small feeling that the characters themselves were written as uh the writer is somebody that we would probably politically align with was my remember what i remembered and that it was supposed to be a i'm

taking this back as this character i don't know if i've completely fabricated that or if i'm even remembering it correctly but because it was just concept art from what I remember. They released concept art and a rough announcement of a series. Okay. I'm trying to find it. I just remember, oh, yeah, oh, yeah. The characters include twins named Snowflake and Safe Space. Okay.

It does kind of sound like they're mocking it, though, doesn't it? It does. But that's the thing. It does. For some reason, maybe this was just hopeful thinking on my part maybe it's great let's just say that it is i was sort of hoping that it was quite literally a like gen z kid that was being mocked getting epically owned that they were libs getting epically owned and then they like bit back by just using the names and maybe they inherited like ice powers and safe space related powers oh my god it's okay so this is absurd have i given them too much credit no no i it's just that i went

to the official marvel website and they like oh no there's one of the one of the new heroes names is screen time that's why i don't know isn't that the bad guy incredibles 2 yeah that's what i was thinking scream a screensaver wasn't it what's this screensaver yeah i haven't seen incredibles 2 actually oh i know i need to do that no worries yeah i don't know there's no villain in there these names i'm on marvel.com and it's like snowflake and safe space by the way who are non-binary which is weird like it's not it's not weird but it's just like all the things combined make it feel like very like hokey and like tongue-in-cheek and very much like that's the the identity which i should say even if that's the intent that doesn't necessarily absolve them of

any thumbs up or thumbs down. I, I, right. Like you've got to, I feel like you've got to have people in the room who like, I don't know. I need, I need those identities to be represented by the people in the creating part. Yeah.

Other than just the, well, Marvel has a really weird history with this kind of stuff. Right. So like, and this is not a critique. I'm very, very glad. I mean,

a black Panther is literally a superhero. Yeah. Created by Stanley and Steve Ditko, I believe, neither of which are- The two legally whitest men ever made. Miles Morales is created by Brian Michael Bendis? Is that his name? Excellent and storied Caucasian writer,

but with a motivation of wanting to introduce uh inclusivity i believe through influences in his own personal life and clearly that's like a huge huge huge net positive so i don't i would want to know more before i throw anything at this person but it is interesting that all we heard myself included was didn't they call some of the new original characters like a dumb bad name and it was no good and then that story disappeared because they didn't they call some of the new original characters like a dumb bad name and it was no good and then that story disappeared because they didn't follow up on it so that's the problem to me is more like uh like your pr team has to like get out ahead of these sorts of these sorts of things because it seems like people took a different narrative and ran

with it than whatever i have no idea what marvel was intending to say. I have every idea what every like clickbait article is going to every viral article version of this story is trying to be like, can you believe it? Like we've, 2020 is really taking a turn. Now it's bad. This was before COVID, so things got worse. Yeah, the article is called worst thing happens that will happen this year. Have you guys seen Frozen 2? This was before COVID, so things got worse. Yeah, the article is called Worst Thing Happens That Will Happen This Year.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you guys seen Frozen 2? I have not seen Frozen 2. I've seen The Incredible Two. Yes. Yes, I have seen Frozen 2. Okay, so you've seen it. What about you, Jordan?

No, between the two of us, we've both seen both The Incredible Two movies and both Frozen movies. Okay, I don't want to spoil anything if you're dying to see it. Because the Disney team team i mean speaking of like marvel and them they tried to do something kind of similar where long story short frozen to the two sisters find out that their mom was uh like indigenous um yeah and it was kind of like uh everybody's white as hell and um now they have power over, like, this tribe. And it's just weird how they tried to, like, shoehorn that in. What is the?

I don't even really understand. I know there's, like, the Disney canon has, like, vague East-European-o country where maybe everyone's from. What is their indigenous culture? Is it an actual country or does it keep that same kind of vagary? I want to say that they're like in Scandinavia or something, but I think they're specifically like referring to a specific tribe who I can't remember the name of at the moment, but I think they're Scandinavian.

Yeah. They are Scandinavian, I think, in Frozen because there's Arendelle. Is that the place from Frozen. Yeah. They are Scandinavian. Oh. I think in Frozen because there's a Arendelle. Is that the place from Frozen? Yeah. It's like based on a very specific location. The tribe is called Northuldra. Okay. I also don't mind spoilers if there's like an interesting thought related to a spoiler.

Behind the scenes, even if all the stops were pulled out to like do good by whomever was being represented in the media from the audience, it can be very, you can have a knee-jerk reaction if you don't know that everyone did, they were doing everything the right way. Because I have no idea what actual processes Disney went through. I do just know that contextually, this is kind of, it like kind of hit me weird. I think, okay, I think if I remember correctly, the Disney team, which is like, again, almost majority white, if they're trying to like be more inclusive, you didn't really see that as much behind the scenes. They even made like a docuseries. But anyway, they did talk to a local like indigenous tribe and ask them like, hey, how do you feel about like the way that you know your people are like represented in like this way in this movie so they made that effort but like you definitely

could have hired like more workers of color um yeah yeah and it's just weird to make the girls native like they're yeah they're white princesses why would you do that yeah it makes me think about like avatar too like the um like they're doing that live action avatar and technically like there's no white people in the avatar property but you best believe that the actual like cat casting is not going to reflect that i've always felt like avatar is a very um like the subtext is so thin like it's just right there if you look even slightly towards the subtext of the movie there's there's nothing there like if you thought about that movie for 30 seconds you get it you know oh i see what this is oh wait i'm talking about the last airbender i know i'm

talking about the real avatar uh people love oh wait wait sorry are we talking about avatar the last airbender the animated series the last airbender the m night Shyamalan movie or avatar the James Cameron movie I very recently followed up with someone or rather uh the brother of someone I learned liked that movie they defended it they said it was equal to equal quality of the show uh the last apparently they held this opinion in I I don't know, like 2012. And after she told me, there's only weeks ago that I found out I'd been seething about it. They followed up with that person. And now they say they never said that.

Now they say that the TV show was always better. I'm looking at you, Rick. It's not his name, but who's to say? Is there any argument to be made that there's, have you both seen the movie, movie? No. Running around? The movie um the last airbender yeah i i saw it i saw it premiere night because uh my friend bought tickets to it and asked me if i wanted to go to which i was like ah free movie and i proceeded to fall asleep almost instantly in the theater, but not before crying. I think I laughed, cried, and fell asleep during that movie.

So who knows? Maybe it was a masterpiece. And you were just in the lobby. Yeah. No, I never made it into the theater. No, I just ate too much popcorn on the way. Was it one of those theaters where they actually let you drink now? Oh, my God.

Well, this was so long ago. So unfortunately, no, I was in Florida. I can't even remember the last time I was in Florida. now oh my god like this was so long ago because this was uh so unfortunately no this is still i was in florida i can't even remember the last time i was in florida but um it must have been 10 years ago because i think that movie was what 2010 you were called back to your hometown for that movie i was i was it was my i heard the uh that's from that's from frozen too that's a little frozen reference thank you um for for everyone except for you jordan that's fine okay yeah 2010 That's from Frozen 2. That's a little Frozen reference. Thank you. For everyone except for you, Jordan. That's fine.

We'll get it soon. Yeah, 2010. Wow. Hot dog. Well, there's more useless information stuck in my brain. I have a... Wait, did we get a... Oh, no, I didn't get your final MopeScore number, Sabrina, because it spiked to 100.

It was 100 because Eva... Was it Eva? Yeah, Eva was coughing and eva was coughing and that always scares me um well i mean like she's 11 and she's pretty healthy for the most part except at random she'll just have like these coughing fits and i keep taking her to the taking her to the vet and they don't know why so i don't know so i just panic every single time like oh no is this it even though she's perfectly healthy. Sure.

Yeah. She's adorable. Do you guys have animals or pets? Jordan, I know you have your cat, but they're not with you, right? No. Well, they're always with me in here under my shirt. I wear them in a special shirt. No, not right now.

Diva's with Jessica, right? She is with Jessica. She's so comfy and happy. Jessica has another lovely cat called Galaxy. She's chilling. She's fine. She doesn't text me much. After the kids move out, they don't stay in touch as much. But that just means they're having fun.

She's partying. They're spreading their wings. As long as I just don't see a photo of her smoking cigarettes, I'm fine. I grew up with pets. I grew up with three cats and two dogs kind of at different times but it was a lot there were a lot of animals i do not currently have any but i i do want a dog i don't know when it's gonna happen but it will happen at some that's what life now is the best time i know yeah i'm thinking about it i think Sadie and I, my girlfriend Sadie and I, are going to go next weekend to a shelter and take a look. Yes, that's a great idea.

Because honestly, especially with quarantine, I don't know what part of the country you're in right now, Jarvis, but walking Eva makes this feel so much better. And it forces me to go outside outside even for a little bit um it helps it would honestly be a great a great situation i haven't i'm nervous because it's a big step but it's also like something i definitely um i i definitely want to do so i'm excited about that and i can i think it'll be worth it i can pretend i people have a couple times assumed that i'm a cat person i'm a dog person through and through i got diva because i like diva but if you get the dog and then I make my triumphant return All three of us will have dogs of varying sizes

I want just like 50 tiny dogs And I want them to like Voltron create a single Regular sized dog You know if you double that and add one Then you'd have 101 Dalmatians So that could be something then you'd have 101 oh dalmatians so that could be

something yeah you could throw it you could have some dalmatians those are big dogs though that's gonna be a huge transformer that's gonna be like an actual yeah that's a giant wait hang on speaking of uh voltron um did you know that in japan there's like a full-size Gundam? Really? Nonny? Yeah. So like there's this island off of Tokyo, a man-made island called Odaiba. And it used to, when I visited like on this island, there was just a full-size Gundam. So it's as big as you imagine. You have to look up.

Oh my God. It's so big and so like it looks like it can just walk and like destroy you and um it there's like a little light show and it like steam emits from it and it kind of slightly moves um but then they moved it from modaiba into some other location in japan so i have no idea where it is currently but um i i'm just saying when when the apocalypse hits we're gonna have to like someone's gonna have to hit the emergency release button on that Gundam and it's going to have to save us all. Wait, did the apocalypse not hit?

Is, is that not what's happening? We don't keep up with current affairs. Is something happening? No, I think I thought everything was good and I just am not leaving my house due to personal reasons. We could always adopt the philosophy of everybody in my area where maybe optimistically 10% of people wear masks, where you just say,

no, I can see why wearing a mask would be important if the thing was an issue. And I see all of the data telling me that the thing is an issue, but what you're forgetting is that I don't want to feel bad. I don't want to do, are you being completely reasonable? Absolutely, of course I should wear a mask. But the thing is, is that I don't want to do that

and I don't enjoy doing it. it yeah it's just inconvenient for me and uh you know let's take it my comfort is all that matters yeah let's take this all into consideration because i could be really inconvenienced you know yeah yeah no that's true and that that's like what people don't understand is that i don't like wearing a mask so no nobody does i'll wear it somewhere else but i will say it does make me feel hotter you know because like you can't see half of my face so it's like you don't know what's under there i could be right a hottie i could have another set of eyes i could be half frog yeah it's like anything could happen um it does feel like a weird i hope that it sustains

long enough like mask enthusiasm not just obligation but enthusiasm so that it can become a long-term staple of culture like it is in k-town i like the mask speaking it looks speaking of yeah actually what's funny is i realized how much my perception of masks shifted over the course of you know this time because when i went to asia for the first time where masks are like really commonly worn even if you have like a cold, I remember being on like a subway or something and seeing all these people in masks. And I, my first, like, I was fearful. I was like, oh no, is there like, are we in contagion? Like, is something going to happen? And then it was like, no, it's just that, you know, in, in collectivist cultures, people care about each other. And in America, we're very individualist. So like you, someone will sneeze on you at the subway and like,

not think anything of it. That's so true. All of them wearing like a t-shirt with your name on it or something. Yeah. Where are we going? We are at the end of days. And so it's unfortunately, you know, too late to learn this lesson. I think it's an important lesson for America that like masks protect other people and not us. And then we're having, like, you truly have to like

go through the thought process of like, this is for my fellow person. It's surprising how hard that message is to get through to some people. No. Yeah. Dude, you lost like half of the country as soon as you said other people. Mm-hmm. But that's me. That's not me. But what about me? Yeah. You lost like half of the country as soon as you said other people. But that's me. That's not me. But what about me? Yeah. So speaking of masks, I went to your storage unit yesterday, Jordan.

Oh, yeah? Oh. Just needed a place to stay. Things not so good with safety. I just wanted to hang out. Yeah, I was looking for like a five by 15 foot box with no ventilation to speak of that I could just sit in and sweat. Okay. that was like what i was hoping to accomplish yeah no i i sweat out uh all the water in my body um so i'm 70

percent lighter now so i'm streaming from there so two things about that one in the process of getting it out i found the masks that i bought on halloween oh yeah I guess, 2019, where I was making a video where I was like taking off a bunch of masks to reveal other masks. And I left them at your place and went back to San Francisco because before I moved to LA, I was like visiting Jordan every now and then and getting a free trial of Los Angeles. And so I found my Iron Man mask and the horse mask and the Batman mask. And so I'm going to have to make use of those and the Batman mask and so I'm gonna have to make use of those please future I remember is that was there also like I mean a mask is a mask it's like some travel toothpaste or something in there it's like it's a box of things that I

didn't have the heart to throw away we were going to do a life hacks video so we bought a bunch of like supplies for that and then the life hack was how to become we decided to do we rented that space to film that because we oh yeah because i didn't know if we would be able to do it at yours and so i like rented out of space for a day we bought a bunch of life hack materials and then we ended up doing the video on one two three go which didn't require any materials from us so i just put like a bag of a random assortment of shit in your apartment and it's probably just it's sitting in that in that storage locker get in there melting i mean i presume if you want some very old toothpaste it's i mean it's

free and ready to go yeah you know what i just stocked up online i accidentally bought a bunch of toothpaste but they're like the little mini travel size ones and i wasn't looking so i'm good in the tooth doesn't that make you feel tall and big though? It does. Finally, I'm big at something. If anybody in the chat wants melted toothpaste that is somehow expired, even though I'm not sure if toothpaste does expire, we can send that out to you. Okay. So also mask related. We picked up the exercise bike. It's very, very heavy. We're starting to figure out how to load it into sadie's car

and as i'm about to lift it you know we took off the seat i tried to take off the handlebar but i didn't seem like i could take it off uh and so we're like okay we're gonna maneuver this this is like i don't know jordan would you say it's like 80 pounds it's like pretty freaking heavy comfortably yeah yeah and so i'm like about to lift it up and this dude walks up to me. He's within like six inches of me, which I'm first off like, whoa, six feet, my guy. It's COVID. And he's wearing a mask. But then he puts like some sort of ice cream themed toy in front of my face and goes, do you think this is worth something?

And I'm like what my first thought is like not the time because i'm like trying to think about like the spatial like situation in the trunk and stuff and i'm sweating my shirt is off by the way because i the last time we went to your storage unit i sweat so much that my shirt was unwearable afterwards so sadie was like take off your shirt and then we'll put it on after we could like run the AC. Because I'm just a sweaty boy. That's just how it is. And so like my shirt's off.

I'm uncomfortable. I'm about to like lift this thing. And this guy's like, could you appraise this random toy? Do that. And I'm like, I have no idea what you're talking about, who you are, why you've chosen me of all people in this parking lot to talk to. My dude, it sounds like you might have been, that might have been a spy giving you half of a passphrase. Do you think this is valuable? I guess so, yeah.

You're like, only under the moonlit sky, and then it'll take you to like an underground bunker. Like a trap door opens and then I get to see the big boss. What did you say? Yeah. Does it look like it could be valuable i said um i don't know man we're a little busy right now i'm sorry and then he stood there without saying anything oh he was gonna wait oh sorry i'll wait i didn't mean to be rude yeah it's like i i don't know it might be worth something and i was like are you asking me if I want to buy it?

I still wasn't sure what I was being asked because I just wasn't in the space to like, you know when you're doing something and then someone's like, hello, would you like to engage with me? And I'm like, not now. I don't want to be rude. Do you want a live barter for a thing that I found? Going once. So then he went away. And so we started. like got the bike in. But then we realized like we needed to take it all the way out and turn around the other way and put it back in because of just like the handlebars being a nuisance. And so when it's all the way in and we're like looking at it, we're like, maybe we could put a little tie around the trunk because it's like open. It didn't fit in all the way. The guy comes back without the ice cream thing.

I assume he sold it to someone else in the parking lot. Some other smarter, more entrepreneurial man in the parking lot. A very rich man now. Yeah, he's very rich. He's like, I've got a bunch of doubloons and I don't even know what to spend them on. But anyway, just wanted to check in on you, Jarvis. How are you doing? He stands like, again, six inches away from me. So I'm uncomfortable.

And then it's like, you can't get it in. You can't get it in there. You're going to need to like get a bungee cable. And I was like, yeah, yeah, no, we're thinking about that. I think I want to try one more thing. I want to like reverse it, blah, blah, blah. And he's like, you need a bungee cable. Do you want mine? I have a bungee cable. And I was like, okay, that's nice. But I, you know, I genuinely think i'll be able to get it in if we just like turned it around because i'd rather close the trunk than like have it hanging open as we're driving um and then he just stands there like looking at me and he's just like i just wanted to help and i'm like i i understand i i i hope i didn't like insult you um and then and then he's just like sitting there staring at me.

And so I'm like, maybe something's off with this guy. But I also felt like he wanted to fight me. Like it was like kind of like a, like he was giving me like a stink eye to a degree. And then he just continued explaining what he was trying to do. He's like, I just wanted to help you with like this, you know, figuring out how to fit your thing into the space. i'm just like i just i i just want to think for myself could you please like

back away from me i didn't say that but i was kind of i guess i was a bit standoffish but i hope understandably so um and then he eventually was just like i'm just trying to help and i'm like yeah but you kind of didn't go away and then he stared at me for a while and it was very uncomfortable and then he went away and then sadie was like you were kind of rude to that guy and i was like oh shit and then i was like am i an asshole and then she was like he just seemed like he was trying to make friends or whatever and i was like at the really like you don't want to make friends there though i was like, at the, really? You don't want to make friends there, though. I was completely misjudged. He brought the wedding ring. You're not rude to say no, right?

Yeah, he was proposing to me in the moment. I was like, I would love to respond, but I currently have to load a bike into a trunk. You know Jordan, right? This is for Jordan. Oh, sorry. Please, sir. I'll get it.

Yeah, now I've been second second guessing myself about that thing. But then when I did get the bike into the trunk, I did feel a sense of accomplishment because that random man told me that I couldn't do it. And I love it when people tell me I can't do things and then I do them. That's why they put the boss at the end of the dungeon. It's all the more satisfying to get out

after defeating an awkward conversation. That's what I always say. Sabrina, do you have like a smoke bomb phrase or tactic and stuff like that like for getting people away yeah i was like smoke bomb phrase like for getting people out of your business well i mean it would have been a lot harder to do at you know a storage unit in the middle of a day but like i remember before like um like if i ever had like, a first date or something with somebody, and, like, you could tell, like, immediately that, like, it wasn't going to click. I would, like, maybe 20 or 30 minutes in, I would be like, oh, I'm so tired. I woke up so early this morning.

I'm so sorry. I'm not normally like this, I swear. And then I'd go home. It's great. Yo, that is very real. jordan have you had this experience because i certainly have uh from any perspective yeah like have you ever so so the thing is like you know sadie and i met on like an online date and a thing about online dating is that nothing can approximate the real world meeting experience so So despite like what you think you

know about this person, somehow in the first like, I don't know, five seconds, you have a read and then you're like, okay, well now, yeah, it's like I'm stuck here for at least 20 minutes because like, or an hour maybe depending on the activity. Hopefully there's something that can like keep your attention, but i don't know and so i've definitely been in that situation before where i'm like all right well how do i how do i do my way out of this one i think you have to put this uh this stationary bike away i'll catch you another time yeah it's like i've got i yeah i take off my shirt i start sweating that's like how i repel i start sweating you just focus i use i

actually use a smoke bomb i just go scatter and then i like throw the smoke bomb down gets out of the way no um i think usually i'm very non-confrontational and so i think that i like suck it up for a bit i do say something something along the lines of, well, I've got to get going. But like, and then I try to conceal the fact that if I had been really into them, they would have, we would have hung out for longer. I try to, you know, it's like, well, that's the time I've allotted for dating. It's roughly 35 minutes. I assume that I'll be able to find my soulmate within this window. Yeah. I mean, you don't go home at 8 p.m.? I mean, that's pretty standard. I mean, I do.

I go to bed at 8 p.m., I wake up at 3 a.m., and then I meditate for an hour and do all these other things. And then at 8 a.m., I'm ready to start my day. And that's why I'm so tired. Oh, so sleepy. Oh, when do you want to meet again? Don't say Friday, Thursday. I'm dead that day. Oh oh i'm busy that day i know you didn't finish saying the day but i am busy that is actually i'm anticipating

the day ends with y oh i'm busy oh damn it's a day it's one of those day days you want to do it on pacific time that's no good i actually sort of oh i can't do any any pacific i'm more an atlantic time kind of guy yeah and which is crazy because I actually like your personality and it doesn't make me uncomfortable being around it. Not at all. Yeah. If the circumstances were different, meaning that I was into you, I would love to hang out for longer.

Yeah. I'm the kind of person that even when I'm very enthusiastic about something, I'm very measured with my time. If I meet somebody and I'm really into them, I will still maintain a strict schedule and I won't compromise on parts of my life. That's good, that's healthy. If I take a bite out of a cheesecake that I love, even if I love it, I put it away.

I put it away for later because- This is tastier because I'll never have any ever again. Wow, you guys are healthy with your habits. Look at you. Everything in moderation. Yeah, we're official mods uh i know i i have a very similar approach i like i'd like to think of myself as somebody that would be more active in the moment of like okay well this is hey i better oh god okay is that the time and

i'm just looking at the ground is that well that's wild is this a road do you know that a cop car goes by and it's like oh a crime put on a cape about that iron man mask put on the batman mask oh yeah or the iron man mask that i got from your storage yeah i think batman's probably a closer approximation of my skill set i don't know how much iron man stuff i can do just with the mask the nice thing about the batman mask is that you can also wear a mask around your mouth because it doesn't cover that part. Who is this masked man? Oh, yeah. You could just wear another Batman mask and just have it like top down.

Oh, I like that. Or you could wear a really, really big Batman mask where you fit inside the nose. That's true. I like the up and down way because bats famously have four ears, two on the top and two on the bottom. Yeah. And one human face in the middle. Do you guys know anyone who would like go to the bathroom, let's say during a date and then just completely leave? Because I have heard of that happening.

And that's a scarring situation. That sounds more mean. I know somebody that's done it. It does sound more mean, but I think that for people who really can't deal, it's probably a way of like, like sort of noping out of the situation in a self-protective way. And plus, like, I don't know, like one time Sadie told me she went on a date where a guy, and I'm like, why didn't you just leave without saying anything? The guy was like, they, they like met up. And then after they were talking for a while, he revealed that he actually knew who she was, was best friends with one of her exes, and had been watching her from afar or some shit. Oh, that's creepy.

And I was like, that's some serial killer stuff. I would have immediately been like, oh. And so she noped out? No, I think she stuck around for a bit. This is like when we had first started dating and she called me after. So this is like we've gone on like two dates or whatever. She called me after we talked for like three hours about how much of a creepazoid that guy was. I would say that more often than not, it's weird men.

Like I feel like men are weird, pretty weird on dates. I've had like pretty – I've had no weird dating situations that are like that extreme. Even though I'm like meeting random people off the internet. You know what I mean? One time – That's good. Sorry, I'm rambling. I'm talking.

No, I love these. Keep going. But I – okay, one time I did go to – there's this girl. Like we like matched on an app i had a plan to like go to this like jazz bar um because i thought it'd be cool like listen to live music biscuits and blues yeah yeah it seemed like a cool thing and then like we meet up and then like i don't know somewhere in the middle of the date i find out that like it's not like a situation where they weren't into me it was a situation where they were like just networking they were like oh they were like oh i just want to network and i was

like what like i was like like add me on linkedin first like let's let's start there i feel like i feel a little bit misled here um because this is not a typical like networking event yeah it's the minimum number of people wait and so like she knew who you were i think so this was back in my like tech days so and so she's went on this like diatribe about how it's great because she just like meets up with people and is able to like like learn stuff from them and then like leave and doesn't have and it's like but you but if you would i would happily met with you if you would let me know that that was the intention yeah beforehand like clearly she does this often so yeah and i was like but on the dating app pretty well like yeah i'm like hey

do you know that these are the dating apps are like meant for dating because like i feel like you there's if you're planning on using the app for something other than its intended purpose, you owe it to the person that you're meeting up with to like set the expectation. So I kind of just like, I kind of played it off. But I was a little bit like, it's weird. Was it just no follow-up convo? Did you send a follow-up email? Did you book something on Gcal?

What was the move? I mean, I just like immediately after just like left. You didn't even reply to the doodle. To be from again damn he didn't touch base i didn't touch base i didn't see what time i didn't see what time worked for her yeah i didn't ping her later or can we take this day off chat or anything like that no circling back no no there's no circling back to speak of if me and java keep making these references we're gonna get nosebleeds it's like it's a ptsd from the old days i did the kind of like stupid and dangerous thing when i started dating gus because we we met like through twitter and um he

lived in wisconsin and i lived in portland o Oregon at the time. And we both realized that we were going to be in Los Angeles for like a small window. Barely were talking for like a week. And we just decided to meet up in L.A. where neither of us had homes for like a weekend. And I probably could have gotten murdered if he was a murderer. It's a real. You can't get tired and nope out of that. One of the nicest things you can say about Gus is honestly, he's like not a murderer it's a real you can't like get tired and nope out of that one of the nicest things you can say about gust is honestly he's like not a murderer at all yeah one of the least

if he was a murderer he may have committed murder at the very least he's very efficient and we have to give him that i feel like i've done risky stuff like that too but the thing is like being a guy it's different you know like I feel like the there are a lot fewer risks just because of the like typical physical characteristics but I would do some shit like that so I'm proud of you but also yes like you're a good judge of character you know you you I think it's okay. I think it's okay, but you've got to really like do your research or whatever. Um, I think it's easy to make sure that you're not setting yourself and putting yourself into a compromising scenario situation. It's very easy in like me and Jarvis's case, at least to become complacent about how

little risk a date is. Like the biggest sacrifice could be an embarrassing experience a loss of your time and you know maybe even a funny story comes out of that the threat level is very low so sometimes when i think about like worst date scenarios and what strategies do i have in place i realize that there's like there's like defcon levels i don't even prepare for i do like what do i do if it's awkward and what do i do if i'm having a good time but i'm too tired and like and that's it and then i don't think about it anymore critically you guys what do you do if she tries to take you to a secondary location immediately like you'll meet up and she's like hey hop in my car let's go but like to a second like date location like

i'm not talking about her house i'm talking about john milaney told me never to go to a secondary location yo but wait wait wait because like where are we going well you don't know it's a surprise oh cool oh yeah that's am i right oh my god you guys are gonna get murdered dude i feel like also i feel like it would be so easy to murder dudes on dating apps like they would dudes are so thirsty all you have to do is be like let's go to a secondary location and then they're like yeah they're probably thinking with their books let's go to a secondary location. And then they're like, yeah, they're probably thinking with their dicks. Wait,

I'm just saying. The secondary location in particular is this, uh, big pile of leaves in the woods. You need to go and step on that to really see it. I think that, that was happening for like a little bit with grinder though. Um,

I think a man was, has there, there've been a few like murders on grinder that way. Jesus. That is scary. And that's why, you know, everyone should understand the PSA for this is everyone understand the risks of dating online, meeting someone sight unseen. Make sure to, you know, tell friends where you'll be, meet in a public location. Create contingencies for yourself.

The really obvious ones are having a friend that can call you for a quote emergency if you need them to, et cetera. I don't know if there's like, is that like a, I know if you get in an Uber, you have a series of security options now. Like, Hey,

I don't, I do like those. Is that, is there an equivalent for your tinders? Hey, by the way, it's dad. What's the latest with the tinders?

Can you do a tinders online now yeah that should be like a cool day i think you can do that with like google maps or something or there's an app where uh you can give like certain contacts like your your gps location so if some reason like they can always track you so it's like okay that could be good yeah i like that oh i just remembered another story about someone leaving a date what happened what was this it's like valentine's day oh no i think it was valentine's day this is this valentine's day sadie and i had already been dating we were just hanging out what's up wait what jordan it was valentine's about to leave somebody on valentine's day like i know extra hurt no so this was something that this was something that like sadie and i were witnessed to but we

were also involved so we we were hanging out before that because we had like valentine's day plans but then afterward we met up with sadie's friend at this bar. And Sadie's friend had another friend there who was meeting a guy on a date at this bar down the street from me. And so we were all kind of like, I guess it was going to be like a friend date thing. She was like, come hang out with me and my friends, even though it's our first date. So I understand that that's kind of a weird, that's kind of a weird scenario. So then the guy arrives, he introduces himself to all of us, sits down, him and the girl have basically no correspondence and are like looking in opposite directions like the entire time. They like, I think she tries to talk and then he tries to talk and then it like just doesn't work he's clearly uncomfortable and then she is

like and and i'm gonna tell you this as i experienced it she got really sick and was like i i've got to go and so she like left we hugged goodbye and stuff um and then like 10 minutes later she came back and i realized she wasn't sick she just faked that entire thing to get rid of the dude and i was like, holy shit. Honestly? I know. I've done that. I've done that. No, it's a good move.

But it was funny because I wasn't in the loop. The boomerang is what blows me away. So I was bamboozled as well. I was like, oh, it's a shame that she got sick. She just started that date. You don't get it at any point. I thought you were sick. Wow, you got cured so fast.

Do you want me to call your date back? Steven, Steven. sick wow you got cured so fast do you want me to call your date back steven steven actually this the best thing to that can happen on a date in my opinion is for your date to be going well and for you to be near somebody else's obvious first date oh yeah because seeing somebody else's terrible first date really like vindicates you as a first dater like i knew i was doing a good job i know this is going well let me let me give you my impersonation of i can give you a very specific one actually when my friend evan had his birthday party near the end of last year we went to highland park bowl in la great place historic spot and for some reason every now and then they will just do a

burlesque show that every hour on the hour somebody will come out and strip and dance right in the middle of the two main bars. Thing is, I don't think the very cute Tinder couple right next to the dance floor knew that that was going to be happening that night. Oh, no. In a fully crowded bar where there were no other seats. And the number of times I would look over to this dude who seemed so sweet and so incredibly uncomfortable, they would come out on stage and I'm going to say a word. I'll just give you the energy she's here i don't know who likes those it's not for me i mean no actually no i really respect the art of it i actually really like the art of it and uh a text worker is actually work so um no i i was

that is that over there in the other direction that is that gives me that is my lifeblood shouting freuda through other people's pain i think that it's really fun when you can share that experience with the person you're on a date with because when you as a couple can like start talking shit about other people that you're watching it's uh it's great that's the dream it's wonderful that's love that's love is war um before you love us and leave us where can people find you what's your deal and thank you for joining us so much oh my god no i had so much fun thank you so much for having me otherwise um i feel bad that i have a little bit of a hard out but i'm actually about to hop back on my stream at four because uh i'm interviewing a local band from my area because like from my high school like there's no support for the arts but this guy uh they want

they already like went on like a world tour and they like toured with one of my favorite bands i'm just gonna interview them that's super rad otherwise i would love to stay what is your twitch handle so my twitch handle is just uh full name, Abelina Sabrina. And I will write it because I know that spelling is hard sometimes, especially with my name. And that's my app for everything. YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, Twitch. Heck yeah. Thank you so much for joining us.

Thanks for having me. We end every episode of Sad Boys with a particular phrase. Sabrina, we're going to have you help us out. We love you. And we're so sorry. Boom. We're very sorry. Boom.

D-R. Next time on Sad Boys Z. Okay, guys. So this is awkward, but Danny was supposed to come on the show today, but we can't find him. We've heard rumors that he has been jailed for, I mean, it's only been phrased as the incident,

so I don't want to get into details on that. Yeah. Hello? We haven't been able to identify him. He said something about like reviewing his legal options about some... I wonder if he's in trouble. Yes. Guys, I can hear you, but I can't see anything.

I don't know where I am. I'm just like, I can't see anything, but I can hear you. Can you hear? Can you hear anything, Jordan? I can hear somebody that's in legal trouble. Someone who is slapped by legal, potentially? Yeah, I was going to say, I can hear... Wait, I think that's him legal trouble someone who is slapped by legal potentially yeah i was gonna say i can hear wait i think that's him from the beyond hello oh my god danny i think i died

daniel what happened you died yeah you sent oh never mind i'm here no you're not here yet oh no yeah he's literally right there you're not here yet oh never mind you're still gone i can't see anything still. Okay, we'll shoot. Gucci girl, Gucci girl How you doing? How you moving, girl? Moving, girl How you doing? Looking at future, girl

Future, girl Yeah, we on now Take my money, go away All you wanted Go to rich for me