Sad Boyz - The Boyz Get Canceled (w/ D'Angelo Wallace)

Episode Date: August 21, 2020

D'Angelo Wallace cancels us, but first he teaches us how to be as devilishly attractive as he is. Follow D'Angelo! https://www.instagram.com/dangelno https://twitter.com/dangelno https://www.youtu...be.com/channel/UCqWxviU8cjjHZsTLWgPFZuA Watch Us https://twitch.tv/sadboyzpod https://youtube.com/sadboyzpod   Follow Us https://instagram.com/sadboyz https://twitter.com/sadboyz  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What a shady way to start the podcast. We literally just started. We're already getting rowdy. We're a bunch of rowdy boys. I'm glad you're being open and honest though. Also, we totally didn't say your name. Oh, hey everybody. My name is also Jarvis Johnson.
Starting point is 00:00:12 I am very happy to join D'Angelo Wallace on the Sad Boys podcast. Is that just like the name they give you if you're a cyber bully? Yes. Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. I'm Jordan, notorious teen heartthrob and entrepreneur, just bringing the big money. All that? That's your entire intro? Sure, yeah. Did it sound confident? You were so sure of yourself, man.
Starting point is 00:00:39 Let me know if this voice doesn't work for the rest of the show, but ha ha, it's... Cool, man. Okay, we're joined by a very special guest today. Let me know if this voice doesn't work for the rest of the show. But ha ha, it's you. What's up? Cool, man. Okay, we're joined by a very special guest today. The internet's golden boy. The viral king of YouTube. The slayer of the holy trinity of drama. The most powerful cyber bully available online.
Starting point is 00:01:02 The most powerful cyber bully. Jake Paul's the world. They hate him. Four out of five doctors agree. It's D'Angelo Wallace. I'm here to end Jarvis Johnson's career. I found out who's problematic. I have to get on your good side so that you don't cancel me. It's going to be like August 12th, 1922. 1922. 1922. The moment Jarvis Johnson's career ended. The year 1922. And I don't know who Jarvis Johnson is, but his career is over. What a shady way to start the podcast. We literally just started. We're already getting rowdy. We're a bunch of rowdy boys. I'm glad you're being open and honest though. Also, we totally didn't say your name. We did.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Oh, hey everybody. My name is alsovis johnson and i am very happy to join d'angelo wallace on the sad boys podcast is that just like the name they give you if you're a cyber bully i think that this is this happened because someone dm'd me uh yesterday saying what if your name was johnson jarvis and i hadn't it was something i'd never considered before and i i believe that d'angelo stole my name um as i recall you uh called me kind of scary saying now i've been cyber bullied and i regret all that shit i said about my personal actual best friend shane dawson oh man um welcome to the shane cast a podcast about shane dawson and only shane dawson what is everyone's opinions about i'm not even gonna go
Starting point is 00:02:21 i'm not even gonna venture into that no i haven't been keeping up with the news for a few weeks, but I still love the guy and I enjoy his work. Don't tell me Shanaynate merch is discontinued. I was trying to get ahead of Halloween. So we've brought D'Angelo on today to just join us through a flurry of nonsense and hijinks couched with emotional vulnerability and just talking about life and stuff. And to get that show on the road, D'Angelo, how has your week been? It's a Wednesday. Is that
Starting point is 00:02:54 what day it is? Time is no longer relevant. It's Wednesday somewhere. Actually, my week has been pretty fine. I've mostly been editing. Actually, not mostly. I'm lying. I've been only editing, eating and sleeping. You know how it is. From project to project it differs, but when you are working on a video, do you find that you're often throwing caution to the wind about every other aspect of your life while the edit is in progress? Oh, yeah. Do you see this beautiful setup? with like you know we have this fake plant right here my guitar over here this is the only clean area of my room oh yeah i've been editing so everything else is a mess i'm looking at amazon boxes i'm looking at
Starting point is 00:03:36 i think my license plate is on my bed for some reason so the answer to your question is yes you don't know why it's on your bed no okay that feels like there's a story or maybe some follow-up questions but clearly you're not ready that's a different that's my video that's my next video oh shit i forgot you sent us the email before the show it's like if there's one thing yeah to talk about it is my license plate what are the numbers what what is your license that's in order actually what are the numbers and your mother's maiden name i think is the other piece of information I need. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:07 I know my social security number. Nah, actually. Yeah, fire away. No, thanks. Don't need that. Now, back to this captcha. So I very much relate to that. I even moved, like, I think that any YouTuber that you watch whatever's in frame is like the only clean part of their filming area because like in our skype call it looks far worse than it does on stream
Starting point is 00:04:34 for me because on the stream gets to see like a nice little frame hopefully and what jordan and d'angelo see is like i I don't know, some mess, disorder. Some nasty, nasty work. Disarray. I genuinely don't want to have my green screen up right now. There's no real reason. It kind of looks a bit garish. Here's my fear.
Starting point is 00:04:54 I take it away and there's just like my license plate or something. I do not know what is behind that green screen right now. You do famously tape your license plate to a wall. Yeah, I want to remember what it is. It's like, oh God, it's not my friend social security again you go to a party and somebody's like yo what do you do and you're like oh you know i'm a content creator i make podcasts and stuff and they're like that's sick that's sick man what's your license plate bro and then you just stood there like i don't know and then all of a sudden they go off they talk to cody co instead
Starting point is 00:05:21 that was your turn how is it it's good i'm coming at you from the actual surface of the sun i can't stop my face is liquid at this point uh the uk was like gotcha we're actually gonna be really hot we gotcha that's not normal right i've heard that the sun is no not really doesn't really favor your side of the world it was like at best a nifty 50 for the last several months and then quick switch to a nifty 80 a haiti 80 88 uh but yeah 88 degrees fahrenheit yeah the only real temperature d'angelo don't come to texas it's been over 100 degrees here for the past few nights. I know, but that's why I won't go again.
Starting point is 00:06:09 That's precisely why I grew up in Florida. And I knew from a very early age that I would leave Florida and never return. Because I think I had one Florida summer. And I was like, this is too much humidity for me. I sweat far too easily. For whatever reason, every low-rent-ish con happens there. Like, we went to a playlist there. We went to PodCon there.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I've been to a couple podcast festivals there. No, PodCon was Seattle. Are you talking about Texas? PodCon was sick. Talking about Florida. Florida, oh, dear. Orlando takes in a lot of these places. And when I was at a podcast movement beginning of last year ish i genuinely we landed i inhaled all of the humidity you know what i was
Starting point is 00:06:55 used to from previous visits and then we went to some like big ass outdoor semi disney associated mall and at one point i was just like i wish i had always been dead oh like not even not even that i would die like that i never were first in the first place just the void from from day dot like i had no interest in having ever existed my my carbon footprint was a waste at this point what how but like how though yeah but like how do people though you you know, I was just in like Palm Springs area and it was a hundred and eleven degrees and I Couldn't deal passed but there was a Pool a very small pool and I did I found some some relaxation
Starting point is 00:07:37 As a bathtub my dude if that's the case if that's what you guys are freaking out about just listen to this okay listen to the heat he's putting us in our place no i'm putting you in the place you don't want to be do not come to texas so uh if we take a handy dandy look at our weather forecast fantastic 10 day weather forecast okay so we're getting this straight from weather.com so we have 103 degrees 103 degrees 103 degrees 99 98 98 97 96 96 95 94 it's cooling down so actually it's getting a little cooler what are you doing nice pretty good report card grades um that would be yeah that would be fantastic actually not too bad that's your credit score though right i imagine add all those numbers together and it's my credit if you if that's your credit score they just don't need money from you anymore you can like go to target just like can i have this furniture and like whatever my credit score actually dropped the other week oh no oh yeah i didn't do anything i was looking for a house and nobody told me hey even the act of looking
Starting point is 00:08:42 for a house is going to lower your credit score and then it did there's having the audacity to try and build a life if you even like if instagram hears you say house or whatever it's like your credit score goes down and you start getting ads for it um instantly cucked by the zone but yeah decent week editing arcs a fucking ton uh just finished scoring one of the episodes the dnd show and uh i i think i'm almost done like once i'm done this is basically the bottleneck to everything else it's full sound design and scoring and stuff and it's finally done i think scoring i have to clean some stuff up and right now that's the bottleneck to more sat boys stuff more streaming stuff, more YouTube potential stuff. Yeah, we gotta get Jordan on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:09:26 D'Angelo's got two channels, Jordan. You have how many? Oh, share. Imagine. Yeah. Imagine having fewer than two channels. I just can't. I will say, I have one channel with the 10,000 most patient subscribers on the planet.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Oh, yeah, that's true. Shoutouts to them. What's the name of your dnd podcast i've actually never heard of it ox a-r-c-s it's a show and you can't deny that it's very good jordan jordan's very he's very humble it's a very well produced dungeon dragons podcast it's been written up about and people talk about how good it is and stuff um so it's it's very good jordan works very hard on it he's very talented man and boy. And he composes a lot of the music for it. He doesn't talk about that much.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Now I'm definitely going to check it out. Got to pimp out the man, the myth, the legend. But you didn't hear it from me. My week is good. I went for a couple of days to Palm Springs for Sadie, my girlfriend's sister's birthday. So it was like a little bit of a family trip, hanging out in the pool. Once again, 111 degrees, not my cup of tea,
Starting point is 00:10:30 played a little bit of, played a little board games, watched a little movie, watched Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, kind of by accident. Yeah, it was the first time I saw it. By accident. Yeah, well, cause we like- That's quite a movie to watch by accident.
Starting point is 00:10:42 I know, right? Well, we walked in, we walked into her sister's room and they had just started the movie and then we were like i guess we were gonna watch this now and apparently i was you know i thought it was incredible i thought it was a great great film it's spectacular also i didn't know that uh michelle gondry or whatever was the director and isn't he the guy from all those youtube videos in like 2007 that were like optical illusions and shit yeah i believe he also did the unless i'm mixing him up i believe he did the fat boy slim video where everything is like the the visuals of the video is riding on a train and like a house or like a telephone rail appears to represent the beat
Starting point is 00:11:21 oh or like i think maybe that was michelle gondry i think he's also done like a radiohead music video yeah big boy all right what an absolute unit uh jim carrey's best performance uh not accounting for sonic obviously of course jordan you had a you had a bit uh that you wanted to do yeah you know how i script out all of our improv uh so so a lot of people don't know oh is that the email you guys yeah yeah it was a full yes it was a full script this is an entirely scripted podcast a lot of people don't know you've been going i'll be honest with you've been going a little bit fucking rogue a little bit off book someone clearly well the email was handwritten and it was a bit incomprehensible so it's jordan's internet it's jordan's he just can't he figured he would use the post while it still exists
Starting point is 00:12:05 i did ask there also for your license plate i don't know if you're playing hard to get on this shit or what's going on but i'll do it at the end license plate reveal so you have to watch to the end yeah wow see this is a true entrepreneur knows exactly face reveal but the face is the front of your car i have found a quiz to determine because i know you're both curious up up and coming youtubers with no idea what you're doing uh quite but i have a quiz a buzzfeed quiz on which youtuber you are oh okay i think i'll put some money on both of you being shane i don't think that's crazy well clearly only oh weird author s dawson that's a little suspect yeah interesting uh i did when i called javis earlier
Starting point is 00:12:51 to set up i was wearing blackface anyway let's move on and not a joke he was he's not joking wait hold on just real quick i do need to point out jordan was in blackface when i facetimed him before this podcast and i was like is this a bit it was it it was a charcoal face mask because i knew d'angelo was coming on and d'angelo d'angelo invented the drip so i wanted to make sure i was bringing at least a portion of the drip right hello popped my little charcoal face mask on and the thing is i didn't know there was like a history to this whole thing oh about about you know it's it's not my fault so are you saying you're not in blackface right now you're like
Starting point is 00:13:31 actually it's not just blackface because it includes the neck as well it's really gone full method yeah everything right under this t-shirt oh white is the there's the moon oh my gosh wait does this mean jarvis is black since you guys were like twins so people do kind of ask i think jordan and i together are one black person and one white single yeah you should say 50 of the time everything is really easy right yeah that's great yeah that would actually maybe be better if it wasn't like if there weren't all those racist rules about like one drop of color and shit yeah it would be yeah i would have gotten followed in far fewer grocery stores oh my lord uh so yeah i have a quiz for you to figure out your race i have a quiz for you to figure out which youtuber you are now this is from march 2019 so there is a possibility that one of them is shane dulcet
Starting point is 00:14:22 we'll see what happens uh oh no. I thought we could, we could run through. You could each give me your respective answers and then we'll talk about, you know, what you've done. I know we're not supposed to be looking at Twitch, but I just have to highlight this comment. Who is the girl or guy?
Starting point is 00:14:35 I'm so sorry if I offended. It's hard being this pretty. It's literally difficult living my life. Looking like, sorry for the drip. I guess my question is like that. I know. Sorry for the drip, I guess. My question is like, where did you come from? We don't know why I'm on this podcast.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Or maybe I'm the girl. I don't know. That's true. True. Why did I assume? That's really rough. Who's the white chick? That's all of the weighands yes a lot of people are saying d'angelo is gorgeous d'angelo is beautiful these are all true
Starting point is 00:15:12 um too beautiful no such thing uh sad boys does not acknowledge the gender binary that is also true we are all boys with a z here and uh some people earlier were like, talk more about D'Angelo. And it's like, we'll get to it. All right. We're about to find out which YouTuber he is. Yeah, let's do that. Let's relax. Hold the fucking phone.
Starting point is 00:15:34 All right, mom. I told you not to write in the Twitch chat. You know how it upsets me while I'm live with my friends. That's why I'm so laggy because we have landlines. She always calls me and it's just like tell me more about d'angelo but i'm like i would i've achieved things in my life i have a college degree aren't you proud of me and she's like that's just the effect i have on people i'm so sorry where is your second youtube channel and it's like i have five of
Starting point is 00:15:59 them but i only post on one and then she says as i recall she says something along the lines of yeah but do you have the drip is that fair to say yeah drip free since 93 d'angelo will be leading a workshop about the drip a little bit later on in the show um and i hope we all like stick around to the end for that jordan hit us what's up quiz are you going to be doing the quiz for both of us? Yes. I have two different tabs. Wow. A professional. Sorry. Sorry, dude.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Damn. I'm kind of epic like that. All right. Okay. Hit us with these questions. Let's go D'Angelo first because he matters more. Yeah. D'Angelo, pick something to do in your free time.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Makeup, working out, shopping, singing, eating, editing pics on social media. And they note that on that specific photo um the images from getty images i don't know why that wasn't for all of them wow it's funny because i don't enjoy anything you just said but out of all of them i guess the most one would be editing pictures i think that's fair allegedly have you ever done it i thought you're our natural no that's actually why i have such clear skin is because i've never actually gotten rid of my acne or tried to hide it on social media if i did then when i show up on camera everyone's gonna be like yeah whoa that's some galaxy brain shit yeah that's why i always look like complete shit yeah i'm like trying to set a standard of sorts i can
Starting point is 00:17:27 say that i can say that jordan and i have decent skin by uh black don't crack rules and only that because i don't think either of us take the care of ourselves that we should what are you talking about i can finally my skin okay i can finally come forward and say that the reason my skin is so clear is because i'm black i've never admitted it up until this moment because i feel like i had to have some witnesses here so people didn't just think i was making oh no it's a it's a thing it's a thing it's a it's a literal thing i'm sorry this is our one privilege all right let us let it let the let the melanated people have this i'd say in me and jarvis's case too it's the top half that is acne free and then oh yeah acne from that do you haven't like just never look at my knees that's all i'm
Starting point is 00:18:12 saying that's actually where all of it is it's it's all if you can believe it those kind of disturbing those aren't knee pads that's all i've gotta say jarvis yes do you like makeup working out shopping singing eating or editing pics on social media? Singing. Singing. That's the thing I'm always doing. Hell yeah, dude. In my free time alone.
Starting point is 00:18:31 D'Angelo. What do people think? Do they think you're crazy, funny, brilliant, or rude? Or kind or annoying? Kind of all of them. And I'm not even kidding. But I guess we should put... You said funny?
Starting point is 00:18:42 I mean, I appreciate that you probably think no i i have to be fun they told me i was funny yeah sure i mean we can say it if you want us if you want us to confirm that on the podcast i'm allegedly funny you have to make sure that we're not yeah slandering no there's there's one that says liar so i'm just gonna put put liar. Liar. Funny. There we go. The secret seventh option. Jarvis, what's your fucking deal? The answers were like, am I- Crazy, funny, brilliant, rude, kind, annoying. I'm going to go with funny. Sorry, everyone.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Isn't it annoying being this funny? I know. I read a YouTube comment. Perfect skin, perfect bits. I read a YouTube comment today that told me I wasn't funny. So I'm actually not sure, but- Shit, wait. Dude, I apologize. Relax so I'm actually not sure. Oh, shit. Wait.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Dude, I apologize. Relax. They watched Jake Paul confirm. Yeah, yeah. That's just what I assume about every... No, I'm just kidding. Oh, my God. I think statistically it's not a terrible chance. I don't think they probably watch much of him right now.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Oh, oops. Nice. Bars. Literally. Pick an anthem speaking of bars. Pick an anthem. Oh, interesting selection. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:43 Seven Rings. This is D'Angelo. This is for D'Angelo. So Jarvis didn't say okay sweet but psycho by ava max sicko mode by a little artist called travis scott or sunflower from the into the spider verse soundtrack with post malone and swaley i'm going to have to go with sunflower raw love that jarvis i've got to go with seven rings i i really love that album it's so good it's pretty spectacular it is yeah yeah didn't we both at separate times like fall asleep to it you were watching me fall asleep to that yeah i thought i was in private okay it's fine okay you look like you're having a good time. And you, yeah. The 24-hour Jarvis live stream.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Yeah, that's... You wouldn't get no viewers. I'll say that much. It wouldn't be nothing. Yeah, that's true. Someone would watch it. Oh, what the fuck? Okay. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:20:39 This one's bang on. D'Angelo, somebody's making fun of you. Or just even talking about you. But probably making fun of you or just even talking about you, but probably making fun of you, you know, just obviously. Naturally. Would you ignore them,
Starting point is 00:20:50 confront them, subtweet them, make a video about them, expose them, or plan revenge? Um, this is, they're not really mutually exclusive.
Starting point is 00:20:57 It's kind of a workflow. Yeah. Thank you. Because I can literally, I could include this in a video while subtweeting, but also ignoring them publicly so where only they know that I'm responding.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Ignore them on Instagram, attack them on Twitter, deny them on Venmo. Right, dox them. I'm going to go with subtweet. I'm a notorious subtweeter. Ooh, spicy. JJ? Can you run me through the options again?
Starting point is 00:21:28 Because there are a lot of choices in these multiple choice questions. I know. I thought it was going to be four. Yeah. We can't count that many. Yeah, my memory only had room for four. And then when there was a fifth one, I forgot every other answer. Do we ignore them, confront them, subtweet them, make a video about them expose them or plan revenge if
Starting point is 00:21:45 this is and what do they do to me they um we're talking about it doesn't even say negative i would probably ignore it is that one of the options yeah ignore them as the first one okay yeah they complimented you oh it said uh that was the right answer yeah the right answer uh pick a youtube reaction clip i guess i'll have to uh describe them one is oh no oh no i'm exposing myself as a boomer what is her name what what is james charles i'll say that much one of them is a guy with a beard one of them is liza koshy and one of them is um that that uh white lady that does makeup things and shouts okay like uh but literally which makeup things and chats oh you know the main the big the one let me just look at what's the quiz called what's the quiz called the quiz is called uh answer nine questions and we'll make
Starting point is 00:22:41 you a youtube or whatever jordan is like don't go because you're gonna find out i know i'm trying to expose uh answer nine questions and we'll tell you which youtuber you are okay so i'm here i'm here i'm here pick an anthem someone is talking about you uh okay let's oh uh paytas it's trisha paytas oh trisha paytas yeah paytas charles koshi and just and a guy uh it's funny who's the guy actually i know this face i feel like i would know let me see yeah you gotta pull it up too oh that's manny manny mua yes i don't know that yeah i'm sorry you know when you get to the top like me it's hard to remember the little people yeah i know i'm just like it's a problem he only has has like a couple millions. Yeah, it's a problem It's really embarrassing. I mean like has it twice you have any idea my dad is like yeah come on
Starting point is 00:23:33 I'm actually seeking him if you happen to okay now that we're looking at it My reaction pic is gonna be is gonna be this lines of kosher My is just like making this like oh Yeah, she's she'd she being nasty just like you. Pop smoke. What are you feeling? Yeah, I believe this picture is on the New York Six. As it should be.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I'll put James Charles because he looks really shady in this picture. He's up to something. Yeah, he's plotting something. Pick a Stan word. Wig. Real quick, real quick. This next question is pick a stan word okay wig okay real quick real quick this next question is pick a stan word and i feel like their definition of stan word is like pick a
Starting point is 00:24:13 co-opted word from black culture that white thank you because have you ever been interested in stealing from black or trans culture well this is the quiz yeah it's like we've been new we've been new stan twitter i i dash i dash is not t stan twitter y'all got me messed up i know right oh yeah that's india let's see pick an appropriated word uh t no i'm just kidding no don't pick t i'm gonna go with uh we've been new oh we've been new yeah i'm gonna go with uh i you what exactly i yeah you're right you got me on that one um i would have also accepted skinny but apparently that's the correct also wait it's funny because t is a stand word because of you know the tea but also a stand word because my t's gone cold i'm wondering why oh fuck it's a dino of sorts it's a word from the song stand by eminem boom
Starting point is 00:25:14 oh my god you're right sad boys there's also a map on the back of the declaration of independence sad boys is really getting to the bottom of things jarvis do you love it or hate it say i hate it but love it when i'm not involved yes after that's it those are the only two options do you like drama do you love it hate it what would you rate it that's right what would you rate it you're the best you're the best wait D'Angelo what's your answer to do you like drama I mean say when I'm not involved I greatly enjoy talking about it and not being in the center of it that is i think i'm probably in the like say i hate it but i love it camp because i definitely consume drama and i don't like to even talk about it because i try to i try to rise above i attempt to rise above the
Starting point is 00:26:00 drama and talk about the like the grander themes that are at play but right it's a guilty pleasure for sure but i mean you do you love the skinny t wbk right oh uh we've been there yeah would you say that uh in any way right i would um gagging after a scandal make a video explaining yourself now that could have been any of the four last pictures three i don't know about that guy maybe not make a video explaining yourself apologize do nothing briefly address it and then let it die down um what is the scandal of which you speak i don't really uh i think we both know but okay it's the breast milk that's why D'Angelo's on the
Starting point is 00:26:45 show today it's definitely the breast milk thing okay um I said I was here to injure it's true it's true we find out that you were the one behind uh Jarvis is addicted to breast milk or whatever the fuck that video is called I wrote that script I mean I'm just surprised that a human content I guess I would make a video explaining myself but at the same time i would also make a video explaining myself apologize briefly address it and let it die so i don't know why these are yeah yeah i guess the largest thing is i would make a video explaining myself yeah it's like the the thing the thing that's missing here is like is it a valid scandal it's a scandal based on like right you know real real transgressions of mine. Also, I'm triggered.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Jordan, there's a banner ad for Patreon, our former employer here. I feel like I'm being followed. That's the scandal. Yeah. Okay, Jarvis, where you at? I probably make a video explaining myself. Okay. Can I get a drumroll, please?
Starting point is 00:27:41 And do it in perfect sync. D'Angelo, let me congratulate you because you got the least controversial YouTuber, James Charles. You're hardworking, meticulous, and super funny. You care about your friends and your loyalty is unmatched. And this was made in March of 2019. Why does it say that? That's weird.
Starting point is 00:28:03 But I heard Jeffree a has a video on his phone or something i don't know like what the oh it's like you better watch out okay wait can i get the 20 million subscribers yeah oh that's true um oh there's a link at the bottom but it's tied to my ipad so i think i oh no you're getting dang it'd be like that sometimes that's true i hope they're patient don't you hate it when like someone else gets all the subscribers that you deserve yes jarvis yo drum roll please and do you make it directly in sync uh uh like make it in sync like that like yes and do the whole thing um uh you said that the thing you enjoy is singing don't lie i could do the choreography at another time we'll we'll talk
Starting point is 00:28:51 about this later tell me what youtuber okay damn it we are complete if you want to be a youtuber now's the time wait what sorry i'm reading your that's it you're just not a youtuber hey you're an up-and-coming youtuber who hasn't started yet Sorry, I'm reading your... That's it. You're just not a YouTuber. Oh, no. You didn't get a result. Hey, you're an up-and-coming YouTuber who hasn't started yet. Did it just, like, delete you? Yeah, apparently. You got kind of an interesting result. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:29:22 But just bear in mind, I mean, we're just doing this for fun, so this doesn't mean anything. Okay, I'm emotionally preparing myself. I don't know, maybe they're kidding. I don't know. It's just, it's not like many. Okay. And this is verbatim, so don't get mad at me, I guess.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Lay it on me. Sorry, but unfortunately you are Jarvis Johnson. No. Who? Wait, who is? That's right. That's right that's right the notorious gotcha journalist and coward cyber bully who got his cs deployment from a store brand box of cap and crunch oops all dipshit damn wow it seems but like who is you running again i didn't i don't know yeah who is it a and
Starting point is 00:29:59 b oh and tldr tldi you a bitch, make more tech videos. This guy, whoever wrote this really has it out for this unknown up and coming YouTuber. Imagine switching your content away from tech videos. I can't, I can't imagine. Why would you change your content towards something you enjoy doing more? It's something I consider every day. But unlike that coward, I make something I don't want to make for the views. It reminds me of this guy who used to be in Art Channel, but he switched to commentary and was like, blatant cash grab. Yeah, wait, can we talk about this?
Starting point is 00:30:39 Because, okay, first of all, who did I actually get? You got Liza. Oh. Congrats. That's not bad at all. You're a movie star. I know. I'm hanging out with Will Smith on a yacht.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Oh yeah, she does do that. She's actually an actual thing. Yeah, she's actually a hobbyist now. Wait, real quick also. Sorry, I keep getting sidetracked. But did you guys hear that The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air is being rebooted as a drama? Yes, actually. What? I have something to say about that. Okay, wait. I background go off the end of the road real quick i'll give the background that there was a trailer like a four minute trailer called bel-air in 2019 that was fan-made essentially but it was
Starting point is 00:31:19 yeah i remember that it was all actors like like just all actors. There were no resources from the original Fresh Prince, but they just reimagined the show and the characters and the setting as a drama. And it's quite compelling, I think, the trailer. And so then it caught- They lean into the drama about the reason he had to go to Bel-Air, from what I remember. Right. He was playing basketball court
Starting point is 00:31:45 at the ball yeah um yeah as one does outside of the school you know a couple of guys were up to no good started making trouble in the neighborhood and then uh he got caught with a gun and then his mom got scared and said you're moving in with your auntie and your uncle in bel-air it's essentially the theme song that right yeah i know i all freestyle off the top of the dome with a popular poem forget a team i can stop you alone i'm marshall mathers these are lines from i think eight mile i don't know nobody knows anyway okay what's the hot take what's the the hot goss so i i was just reading the twitter moment that you know is getting picked up as a drama and i saw a whole bunch of people complaining and saying they had better not put any social issues in this new fresh prince and i was like
Starting point is 00:32:31 they had better not do what well have you ever watched a single episode of the original stepping stone around what yeah what does are we talking about the same fresh prince yeah it's like if we could just take out clearly these people social issues you know like being in society whatsoever right well no because every episode no they had a point because every episode of the original show is just the carlton it is yeah no and then like the dance and then will being like carlton and then carlton being like that's me um right there's nothing in there about class or society or race certainly not about uh relationships with an abandoning father he was like these rich black people are crazy good thing racism is over and then the credits play
Starting point is 00:33:22 such a wacky such a wacky show so yeah no they're gonna they're gonna ruin the fresh prince by uh speaking apparently yeah it's the gritty reboot where they go outside of the mansion yeah it's the gritty reboot where they're able to reduce the talking about they went for gritty so that it was like the real world weightless and fun gosh no also it's based on a trailer where social issues are the through line i believe of the entire thing right like literally uh and so i just in the entire premise of the show is like rooted in social issues i just can't believe that's a real take but i'm not surprised not at all and thank you for sharing it basically yeah oh no that's very brave all right i'm sorry i i got sidetracked but
Starting point is 00:34:12 because i was going to ask like um what has the experience been like both from you know so you had your main channel and i don't know fully the timeline but my understanding is you had your art channel and then you started the second commentary channel. And were you posting like daily at a certain point or what was? Right. So basically a short timeline of this is, I think a year ago now by now, or over a year ago, a year and a half ago, actually. I don't know. I don't know how numbers work, but some period of time ago, yes, I was an art channel. But I actually just did a hard switch to commentary because I just would rather have made commentary content at that time. Yeah, I can't relate.
Starting point is 00:34:53 So I've actually been doing the commentary thing for, I think, a full year now. But six months ago, I started my second channel. I see. Okay, cool, cool, cool. Where? Yeah. And so I started uploading daily on that second channel which was insane by the way because i was editing and writing all those videos by myself it was very unhealthy but i did one week of videos where i wrote i did daily videos where i was writing the
Starting point is 00:35:16 scripts in the morning and i could only do i could i couldn't do commentary like that by any means because all my commentary videos take forever yeah it was a mess honestly and i got burned out and then also speaking of the drama i actually did wind up in my own drama like right towards when i was starting to get burned out so i took like a two month break and then i just put like one video in the middle but then that video kind of blew up which is a little crazy so then i come back from my break and then it seems like the reason it's really funny because i had uploaded a 40 minute video because I was like, I'm going to be gone for two months. Maybe I just put out something really nice and long. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:51 And then basically my, and I enjoyed working on the 40 minute video more than I enjoyed doing like 10 minute videos because I got to say everything. Yeah, yeah. So then basically my analytics were like, hey, you should probably only upload 40 minute videos from now on because we really enjoyed the fact that this video is 40 minutes. And I was like, hmm, I got you. So yeah, I came back with the new longer videos, which are actually more fun because I get to put more content into them. I get to look at things from multiple sides. And that's basically where
Starting point is 00:36:22 we wound up today. That's an amazing story and inspiring. And I relate to many, many pieces of that. I'd imagine. Well, one little nitpick I have about YouTube analytics, and this is something that I've told YouTube to their face, but the fact that if you make a long video, if you make 10 minute videos, someone can only watch that video for 10 minutes but if you make a 20 minute video then like on average maybe someone watches it for like nine or ten minutes and then youtube is like holy fuck people are watching your video for like 10
Starting point is 00:36:59 minutes that is so much higher than your other videos do you know that do you know before people were only watching for five minutes and now they're watching for 10 minutes whatever the fuck you're doing keep doing that shit and it's like uh hold on these videos are just are you saying like if i made an hour-long video they'd be like oh this is pretty crazy like people are watching your videos for like 30 minutes and it's obviously it doesn't work like that and there is a kind of a sweet spot for your audience. And you've got to like, you've got to find that, find what works for you. But YouTube analytics leave a lot to be desired, but they have come a long way. They have come a long way. So I have to give them,
Starting point is 00:37:38 give them their due. What was it like to make the hard switch? What were the initial reactions? Cause I, cause I'm curious, I can tell you what my hard switch, my attempted hard switch? What were the initial reactions? Because I can tell you what my hard switch, my attempted hard switch was like. But yeah, I'm curious about that. Okay. Well, actually, just to ensure that everyone got the point, I came back with weekly uploads. So I wasn't just putting out a video to test the waters. I was on a small break and i was like i'm just gonna come back and consistently upload commentary videos and i'm literally never going to address the fact that i was ever an art chair ever at least not for a long enough period of time so yeah when i came back at first no one really said anything because i had been gone for a little while so everyone was
Starting point is 00:38:21 just like glad i was there yeah but then i uploaded the second video in the second week in a row and they're like this isn't an art video and i was getting comments like remember when this was an art channel because i think people thought i was just putting up a couple videos yeah but then let's fast forward a couple months into it when it had been weeks like my whole comment section was just like remember when this used to be an art channel and i was just internally like don't address it don't use it on camera don't address it otherwise it's gonna turn into a thing and um so yeah basically i just got a majority comment section saying remember and this was an art channel but i was pleasantly surprised because the vast majority of my audience actually stuck with that's really cool because i was a little terrified yeah i had one red sub day, which was like day.
Starting point is 00:39:06 I guess this was inevitable. But that was legit it. I only lost subscribers on like, it's pretty much the day I had come back. Yeah. It was then. Yeah, people pretty much stuck with me. Do you know if there was like a big shift in the who? No, I don't think there was.
Starting point is 00:39:20 I didn't necessarily notice my demographics changing too much. Or if they did, they just changed to like a different subset of very similar people. That's amazing. I think it's like it speaks to like what kind of brand you were able to build because like a lot of creators try to pivot and do different things. And the audience isn't always on board for it. And I think that it's a big point of like fear for a lot of people, like, cause they feel trapped in there, you know, whatever they became big for. Right. And, uh, I think it's on us because the analytics are never going to tell you to switch. Like, like for, at least for most creators, you're going to take a hit to your analytics in one way or the other, unless you kind of mask it with longer videos or whatever. But the fact that YouTube takes a second, the algorithm takes a
Starting point is 00:40:11 second to figure out what's going on because it recommends... For me, it wasn't even that I was a tech channel. It's that 50% of my videos were related to my life in the tech industry. And those videos were the videos that got views because whenever I would do something that wasn't that, the people were not on board. And that was indicative to me of an audience that I didn't want to continue building because it didn't feel like an audience that was there. For me, it felt like they were there for the value exchange. I wasn't trying to make my hobby helping people get a job at google or whatever i'm gonna assume that there's quite a few people in the chat that are kind of in the how and the why space and i know like who fucking knows right there's way too many factors at play but as far as like being a wild
Starting point is 00:40:59 boy and putting out consistent stuff what's the what's the tip there what's the hot take what's the tea in fact for putting out consistent stuff i mean yeah start at the daily thing and why that was a fucking nightmare but also just um yes uploading daily is a terrible idea because if you care about maintaining a certain level of quality you're simply not going to be able to do it so you're either going to cry every day because your videos are now not as good as they used to be or you're going to cry every day because you didn't sleep last night because you just spent every waking moment doing it. I really had to ask myself, what trade-off do I want? Because people were still watching the videos. I don't think I was uploading bad videos, but I wanted
Starting point is 00:41:38 to do more than I was capable of. Every single time I would work longer on a video and then wind up missing a day, I started feeling guilty that's when i realized wow i really have to let this go yeah it's so tough and i don't think that like we have a lot of like creators have a lot of resources in terms of like what is healthy because we are only accountable to the audience and the algorithm is there like insecurity coming in with the blow up with the blow up and the glow up is anything about more eyes being on you transferred like more stress being on you yeah i mean i guess i have my moments where i'm like oh wow more than one person is now watching me so i might disappoint all of them but then again i just remember well it's probably not going to happen just because i don't think i'm a terrible person yeah so like i just wake up every day and try to live my life as
Starting point is 00:42:30 somebody who is desperately trying not to be a terrible person and it typically works but no i do have my moments where i'm like i'm gonna upload a video and i'm just gonna say something so bad and everyone's gonna unsubscribe but then it dawns on me and i'm like i've done that in the past actually i literally have bad videos on my channel and I didn't die. I just was like, well, why was this wrong? What do I need to say? How am I going to make sure that people know I'm not going to do this again? So honestly, when I remember that doing the wrong thing is not necessarily the end of the world. It just needs to not be a pattern. I don't feel too bad because I feel like, you know what? I will mess up in front of an audience of 1 million people. It's inevitable. I'm going to make a
Starting point is 00:43:09 mistake, but can I be the type of person to see people bring this to my attention and then fix it? And I feel like as long as I know I can do that in the back of my mind, I'm not too worried about it. Yeah. It's tricky because you want to feel free to like express yourself but you also want to put enough polish and editing in place to not to be mindful of like the risks of you know doing bad stuff right like it's like it sucks to feel trapped because you don't know how to say the thing you want to say without like making without ruffling any feathers um and so sometimes you'd have to take you have to take the risks, but as long as you're asking the questions and thinking about how things can
Starting point is 00:43:49 be interpreted on the other end, I think it's, I think it's fine. Also, like you said, having a, you know, you're not one video.
Starting point is 00:43:57 You are a, like a library of content. You're have a track record. You have a body of work. And that's something that like when logan paul does the bad stuff that he does sick and ethical content yeah it's just it's just there's not a foundation of goodwill there you know what i mean like nor nor is the the degree of like like d'angelo you're not at risk of accidentally do it like going to a forest in japan or whatever and being really disrespectful
Starting point is 00:44:25 um and so like there's just there's levels to it you know right i'm not going to influencer parties 24 7 i'm not interacting with a bunch of problematic people well except for right now on this yeah yeah so we got so this is kind of an influencer party so we've really just like fucked you up we've sent you on a and i'm not wearing a mask we don't care like kind of an influencer party. So we've really just like fucked you up. We've set you on a bad path. And I'm not wearing a mask. We don't care. We're kind of banging the D&D podcast community. No flicks. I'm pretty big on Venmo.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Okay. So we have a few questions from... Well, I asked on Instagram at JarvisAlwaysBePlugging if anyone had questions for D'Angelo. Oh, no. And there's a few good i didn't do it there's a few questions apologize so this one's like i honestly not to put you in the hot seat but um shane does your favorite race yeah well don't get ahead of me this one this might be a little bit this might be a little bit worse shoddy what that thing do okay that's all i got shoddy what that
Starting point is 00:45:26 thing do that's one question someone asks why are you sad which is a question we get a lot because the podcast is called sad boys and the answer is like we're all you know it's like do we not have a range of emotions i think the point is that right uh you know especially guys are not as comfortable being emotionally vulnerable so you know we're we're sensitive and we are like to talk about our feelings every now and then and i think that's what people don't know is the full name of the podcast is allowed to be sad boys podcast but we just truncated we are sad how are you doing today what's your approx originally we were going to title it uh boys don't cry uh by frank ocean and then that was taken by frank ocean and then we were going to call it blonde by frank ocean and then that was also taken i got stolen by that
Starting point is 00:46:16 fucking hack yeah frank ocean guy can't come up with there was a point in time we did some people already know this but we genuinely like the first little test episode we did we did call the show talking white that was like initially going to be the oh yeah very interesting the original premise of the show was like when i was growing up i always sounded like this and people would tell me that i talked white and i'm like i don't know any white people i don't know what you're talking about it's like how is that, I don't know any white people. I don't know what you're talking about. I was like, how is that? Yeah, I don't know. I assume they're great. I just don't know any. And it's like, I guess I talk like the television.
Starting point is 00:46:51 And that's really all I have to go on because I was kind of raised by TV in one way or another. But did you ever have that experience at all? Did anyone ever criticize your speech or on the phone? I remember my brother was talking to some girl and she was like, who's that? And he was like, oh, it's my brother. And she was like, he sounds white. That happened. To me, honestly, it's just the most mind-blowing concept in the entire world because it's like, what does that mean? Legitimately, what does it mean? I certainly hope it doesn't mean speaking artic articulately i think that's
Starting point is 00:47:26 i think that might be what people mean i gotta comment wait right hang on i i gotta uh this is another thing and i know we are getting back to the questions for d'angelo but i this is an interesting thing i got a comment that said um it was weird and it was bad okay is this for our new section why is everybody being so mean to me oh yeah this is a section we like to call why is everybody being so mean to me um someone said uh this is on my i think the video i did about shane you're damn near white in every aspect and hollering black this and that and i'm like what is what is white in every aspect even mean to this person well apparently it means that you can't be upset about somebody's black face yeah it's like you don't look like shane when he does
Starting point is 00:48:19 blackface so you're not allowed to be it's funny i know what a real black person looks like i watch look i am deep in the menstrual circuit i have connections that you could only dream of oh my god me and my boys all look like mr popo as we showed um it's a compliment he's powerful okay you should be happy so um gone to actual questions for d'angelo are you planning on doing more collabs with other people well that's a good question yes probably in the future i currently hate this one that they're doing right now no but it's like another window or something to get used used to it yes yes the other collab but um is this with that notorious piece of shit god i don't know why jordan brings up cody co so much he's he's a he liked cody co he's a nice boy
Starting point is 00:49:17 i know cody co probably just wants the clout what does he have like four million he just hit five million congrats to d'angelo for one million subscribers congrats to cody co for five you know we should we should hit him up for the clout for sure come on cody co hey man five million but you could be at six you tempted right imagine not having six million i know i don't have six million subscribers but i can't imagine it yeah no actually that's a good example of somebody i wouldn't mind collaborating with. Cody Coe, Danny Gonzalez, Drew Gooden, Curtis Conner. Well, I just listed the same person. But yeah, I would definitely collab with all of them. Also, have you guys ever watched Scott Kramer? shout out to shot kramer shot kramer yeah that's when you watch one of his videos let's give a scott out to shout kramer jarvis's nose is bleeding i just yeah his strugglers no yeah that's pretty great where's he at right now size wise is he has he gotten the blow up that he deserves he's at like 4 20 something k stay there stay exactly there um oh yeah wait am i right
Starting point is 00:50:24 because i would be really disturbing because i i don't have it in front of me let's find out so shout out to uh tiffany ferg as well who makes really great videos yes i i don't want to do a collab with her because i couldn't keep up like i legitimately would be left in the dust it was great i like like where commentary is going because I love all of the white boys in commentary to death but it's cool to see more
Starting point is 00:50:51 women in the space have you ever watched Amanda Beebe? I haven't oh my gosh she is legitimately the funniest person on YouTube as well as the funniest person on Twitter I can't the funniest person on twitter oh i gotta i just i can't explain what it's like to watch her she doesn't even like she just delivers her videos
Starting point is 00:51:10 flatly i don't know how she does it like there's not even that much editing she's just effortless it's just it's an i just want to give a shout out to literally my favorite channel on youtube which is uh and i know like maybe the upload frequency doesn't quite put her in the same camp but uh i jenny nicholson when a new jenny nicholson video comes out i cancel my appointments i i turn off all the lights in my room i take off my glasses so i can experience it only in sound also sarah sarah z i like yes she was actually i've seen her that's it was a segue from sarah z or something yeah sar's Sarah Zed or something. Yeah, Sarah Zed. Is it Zed? Because she's in Canada. I can't deal with people who say Zed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Because she's a traitor, period. Cool. This is a fun little plug other creators moment. Oh, so if people are- People we don't hate. Yeah, wow. People are like, just- Actually, that's a common assumption I get, is that I hate literally everyone on YouTube
Starting point is 00:52:01 because I only ever criticize them. Yeah. No, same, same, same. I mean, I have a bunch of comments on my video that are telling me I'm just jealous of his riches and all the women he has. That's true, man. I mean,
Starting point is 00:52:12 you, you don't even play poker. It blows my, Oh, also shout out to Lindsay Ellis. Yeah. Lindsay Ellis is the homie. Her videos are masterful.
Starting point is 00:52:21 We could, we should probably get Lindsay Ellis on the show. Oh yeah. She would come on. Yeah. Text thread is exactly one text long and it's her sending me a b emoji uh lindsey ellis is like my we run into each other at events and like are like okay i know someone here and then we like we chat with each other pre pre-creator jordan where i dynamic dynamic changed because i was not the suit anymore we right whichever
Starting point is 00:52:46 patricon it was in the pitch con right before we left the it was because of lindy ellis obviously we i like bumped into each other and we had that chat i was like oh i love b emoji but i don't know how the fuck that happened we were both very drunk and then the previous time i met her was at lax after like a maybe like a head gum party or something like that and i just was behind her at lax i've been watching a ton of her videos i found out about her a month before and i was just like hey i um you you wouldn't have to be lindsey ellis would you i mean i'm like and she just she just said no straight up so that's really wow and then she turned around like uh five minutes later because it was a long ass line she went like why what do you what's your relationship with her i was like oh we've done a little work together patreon wise and then she just like stopped being locked up
Starting point is 00:53:33 and she's like oh okay cool yeah do you know dave that's great like i'm gonna have to remember that i dude if i was on a uh i think she was getting back maybe from that new zealand set that she did like dude i get it don't like don't right i don't like talking to people in general uh what's ayo wait have you been recognized much d i mean you're not going out oh yeah i would imagine no it's because i'm in texas i think if i was somewhere more like la i'm sure i'd be bound to run into one of my 1 million subscribers but nobody lives in texas besides me, literally. I got recognized a lot in San Francisco because I had the tech thing.
Starting point is 00:54:12 And so in tech circles, they were very connected. The last time I was in San Francisco, somebody recognized me when I was wearing a mask. And I was like, Jesus. This is why I wear the mask. But in LA, I haven't been recognized except... Well, no, because I never leave my apartment now because it's COVID. But I was recognized two times of note in LA since moving here and leaving my house. One was a cashier at a grocery store near my place who was just casually bagging the stuff and was like hey you look like that guy who like talks about like trim trim and stuff and i was like yeah that's me she was like so cute about it and
Starting point is 00:54:52 it was great and then uh a slightly creeper one but it's okay because it was like a child i uh i got into my you recognize them no i hey No, I, hey. Interesting. No, I like got home from something and I saw this like family there and this like little girl like glanced at me and then they were like, the family was loitering around. And then I looked at my DMs like after I got home and this girl was like, did I just see you walk into your house? But she was like, she was like 14 or something. And so it was like a child that I didn't reply because I didn't want to dox myself or tell her where i like lived or whatever but now i'm letting her know if you you're right on the money you found me feel free to share that information um as you should uh but yeah i was gonna say that uh of all the youtubers everyone's mentioned like um everyone who i've met has been great like danny drew curtis all those guys are super rad and i mean i'm sure we'll get them on the show eddie and gus as well um oh my god literally
Starting point is 00:55:50 i'm like overwhelmed by how nice i also i also you know i don't know we haven't discussed my shane video but i want to get katie morton on sad boys she would be really good yeah she'd be really good um so that would be i i like she's really amazing she's a great person katie and i just would love her to have her on the show uh noah miller also yeah that's obviously yeah i don't know courtreezy i don't either i've watched one of courtreezy's videos she's hilarious she's up and coming her channel's actually blowing up right now. That's so creepy.
Starting point is 00:56:26 I just, I keep exposing myself as somebody who knows the subscriber count of like everybody. Oh, I've been there. Dude, you fucking nailed it. You were like 6,000 off. It was 120, 426. The reason that I even thought that I could have a viral like growth moment on YouTube was because I saw it happen with Drew Gooden. And I watched like, basically I watched every creator when I was like trying
Starting point is 00:56:51 to blow up and was trying to reverse engineer, like how to make it happen for myself. Eventually worked. This is a point from earlier. I tried to pivot. Like I made a video called The Worst Software Engineering Advice I've Ever Seen, which was like a commentary tech video. And then at the end of that, I teased five-minute crafts. And then I made a five-minute crafts video after that. And nobody watched it. Everyone was not a fan of the video. They were like, what are you doing? These life hacks, words for the tech or whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:24 And I was like, okay, great. I i'm never gonna make a commentary video again and then i and then i like would do this thing where i would like make a tech video so like people would get you know they would get the views and my channel would continue growing but then i would keep trying to do um trying to do the commentary thing and then out of nowhere i think it's because cody co released a video called uh five minute crafts it was just called five minute crafts and i was like oh he used the name of the channel and i made my i made a video about five minute crafts it was called the worst life hacks i've ever seen or something like that and i just changed it to five minute crafts is the worst channel on youtube and then like 48 hours later it got uh two million views in like a
Starting point is 00:58:06 weekend and i got like that's yeah i like went from like 50 to like 300k subscribers like over that weekend it was crazy i got you a i was really frustrated because i got you a congrats on a hundred thousand i got you like a happy birthday uncle or something card and i just were like congrats on a hundred thousand and then i had to cross it out and put 200 000 and you ruined my surprise jordan got me a card that was for like uh someone's 100th birthday and he put like 100k congrats or whatever which by the way they can't be shifting a lot of units of that card right definitely not there's no way how many 100 year old they put it directly next to like we're giving it to their grandpas my consolations and then like funeral expenses wait the end of the day do you get trickled down to your older videos much or is it just
Starting point is 00:58:54 new videos onwards that got like the yeah actually all of my videos have over 100 000 views but it's slow of course the older ones well that's the thing you're doing it right because you like it's like if you build it they will come right like you you have like the library of content and then like you have your one big thing that hits and that's probably similar to a bunch of the other content because you can never control these things and then it just like a wave just like flows over everything so it's fun to see it's fun to see what gets like a rising tide lifts all boats or whatever. It's funny to see what videos get lifted because now I have tech videos that are over a million views, which is very weird. Because it's like I don't know who those people are.
Starting point is 00:59:38 But we want to be bingeable. That's the rule. You got to be a bingeable channel. Yes. Okay. More questions for D'Angelo. What made you want to be a bingeable channel yes um okay more questions for d'angelo what made you want to start youtube well interestingly enough my degree is actually in mass communication with a concentration in digital film and television production so i was already
Starting point is 00:59:54 so it's a pretty yeah it's a pretty far reach for you you're pretty out of your wheelhouse right i had to learn so i saw that your first video was you like holding the camera in front of your face like what is this what is this this strange like phone amazing you were able to get that right youtube yeah no i accidentally uploaded my first video it's a little bit of canon no i'm just kidding i had the channel before this like before my first channel actually where i would just upload speed paints because i just i really wanted to do the art yeah but these speed paints had no commentary and I was just every day like why isn't anybody watching my commentary less videos yeah of a screen recording that have no value whatsoever you were you were ahead of your time
Starting point is 01:00:36 if you'd put that in like a square and on Facebook and sped it up and put like a little music behind it you could have been 20 million viral yeah. A viral, yeah. A viral video. So when I started realizing, oh, okay, other people get views because they talk in their videos. And that's when I started talking in my art videos. And then from there, it just kind of spiraled into what it is today. But yeah, no, it's not even necessarily that I wanted to be a YouTuber. I just, I wanted to make videos. I've always wanted to make videos. Even before I was on YouTube, I was doing it for school. Before I knew what YouTube was, I would make little videos on Movie Maker. And so even if YouTube went away tomorrow, I would be okay. I wouldn't, but I would still know how to make videos and I would still just
Starting point is 01:01:23 continue doing that wherever I had to. Great answer. I think I have a much deeper and important question now because this ought to be interesting. How tall are you? Oh gosh. Why do I even answer when people ask me how tall I am? Because they never believe me. I am six foot one. My driver's license says six foot two because i lied squad but i am literally six one i don't know what to tell you i were you embarrassed at the dmv you have a very strange relationship with your car right oh we're not going to talk about the license actually should i stand up well it's like i i redo i believe you um no one no one will believe you. I know because I'm also 6'1". And Jordan is 6'3".
Starting point is 01:02:09 And one time we stood up next to each other in a video and people still don't believe. Like people tell me I have small king energy or something. People are quote unquote fucking choking based on your height. So I hope you have a good legal. Should I do all my videos like this? This is the best of both worlds. I should be doing my videos like this.
Starting point is 01:02:27 And then people will believe that. I'm saying that. Short king energy while not being short. You can reach high shelves while still being an absolute unit. Nah, I miss me with that short king energy. We don't do that on my channel. Yeah, we're tall.
Starting point is 01:02:37 I don't know what the hell that ties. Every short king is bad. I think is what you're saying. Yeah, we don't mess with that short king stuff on my channel. You hear that Cody Ko? Fucking get at this i got you and then like hard cut to him being on the show and i've just been like oh god cody someone said i became 10 times hotter by doing the voice uh i don't know how to feel about that you know who's also really tall drew and danny are both
Starting point is 01:03:00 really tall yeah i think drew and i are the same height yeah there's a photo there's a photo of me next to drew i can't pull it up here but like we're standing next to each other and i think we're the same height i know it's crazy now i know how it feels because i legitimately yeah would not picture yeah danny's tall um jakey's tall too yeah oh also shout out to great commentary channels i guess it's more like an essay channel but he does it in the commentary style someone said maybe it's because my camera's pointed downward at me. Did they just solve my entire- I don't know. Do I need to read?
Starting point is 01:03:31 I don't know. Maybe it's because they're watching it on a small screen. I want it to be like proportional. Watch it on your TV and then I'll be 17. There's a lot of people asking you why you're so beautiful, which is like a brand I wish I built for myself. What's the answer? Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:46 Well, the short answer to why I'm so beautiful is because I just legitimately am aware of it. I feel like, I feel like, I think everyone looks really good, but not everyone is aware of it. So people kind of carry themselves weirdly. But once I started looking at myself on camera and I was like, wow, this is my angle. And this is my angle and this is my angle they're all my angles holy crap yeah i am like literally the definition of attractive
Starting point is 01:04:10 people just started saying i started saying it and then other people i love that i'm just like it's i think it's manifest people people who could bring the drip and then don't acknowledge it i find that shit so fucking uh disingenuous because it's it's like being like you know how like uh people with like rich parents and stuff will talk about being broke and it's because like you you don't get to have money and complain about being broke like not getting to complain is the tax on having cash and like not getting to complain or like be faux disingenuous about the way that you look is the tax on being sexy like you're not allowed to do both that's that's indulgent that's bullshit like imagine imagine if i'm trying to think of somebody and try to
Starting point is 01:04:50 think of an example uh who's universally accepted to be pretty besides shane um angelina jolie i think i think yeah imagine if angelina jolie was walking around like like the typical relatable youtuber thing and she's like Oh my gosh, I look like an egg. Oh my god This is so bad this lighting is so bad that would be so difficult to watch and actually I feel that way about certain youtubers Cuz it's just like how dare you see the studio lights in your eyes I can see everything you're doing to achieve this effort you also then you're going to go around and call yourself a potato you you have like a responsibility as an influencer that looks great you have an obligation to not make your younger audience feel like complete shit
Starting point is 01:05:36 like if you describe yourself as i'm so ugly then they're looking at themselves in their phone reflection they're like i don't even know how to dress. You're making me feel terrible. That's actually something I wanted to talk about, but I haven't. Because I don't necessarily know how to talk about it. But I noticed some YouTubers who rely super heavy on the self-deprecation. And I'm not talking about just like, oh, wow, I don't look good in this outfit. Because we all have moments like that. Even though I have moments where I'm like, huh, maybe I should pair this with something else. But the YouTubers you just watch and it's just like a constant outpouring of i look ugly gosh i wish i looked different and
Starting point is 01:06:09 i look at their comment section and they're all like well if you look ugly what do i look like i just feel like that is so unaddressed there's no way that's healthy i feel like some people are like unintentionally consuming a stream of content that is actively making them feel worse about themselves that like faux oh but if i say i look sexy and people are gonna be mad at me and i'm gonna be embarrassed that doesn't actually happen like it can sometimes for a beat but get over yourself for a second if you start saying it two percent of people are going to say that you're flexing whatever but don't no not that's the tax yeah you get the drip and you don't get to moan that's the that's the trade-off d'angelo what one final question and this is going
Starting point is 01:06:53 to be a good like sad boys note that we can end things on advice about the real world do you have any advice about the real world uh is that like a shoe brand? Oh, it's actually a reality show started by MTV in the late 90s. Oh, okay. It's the second season of Tana Turns 21. Oh wait. My advice for the real world is-
Starting point is 01:07:17 Did she turn 21 again in the second season? Sorry. Yeah, she forgot. Tana turns 21. 21, two. She turns 121 years old oh my god no my advice for the real world is file your taxes true but don't don't be surprised at how high your taxes are like the funny thing is like everything happens right relationships fall apart you lose some of your friends none
Starting point is 01:07:40 of that has been surprising to me because even as a child, I went through these things. The only thing that consistently kicks me in the butt about being an adult is taxes. And I'm just like, how did I make this money and it doesn't belong to me? Like as a child, your parents give you your allowance and they're like, oh, here's $20. Don't spend it all. And you're just like, oh, cool. I got this $20 and it belongs to me. But then as an adult, you make $2,000 and you're like, this cool i got this twenty dollars and it belongs to me but then as an adult you make two thousand dollars and you're like this literally isn't my money yeah and i worked harder for this than i did for the money my mom gave me so it's like that's the only thing my
Starting point is 01:08:14 advice in the real world is pay your taxes but don't cry too hard because they don't go away i was salaried for five years of my career the first like major five years of my career and then i had to move back here because deported and then now i get paid freelance and any money i make through twitch or something or uh podcast or arts they just give you all of it and they're like hey best of luck i guess like they don't withdraw anything they're just like i don't know do you want stuff that's expensive maybe you could afford it. You'd be the judge. It doesn't work. Basically what Jordan said,
Starting point is 01:08:51 I'm supposed to pay my taxes every quarter now because it's like freelancer shit or whatever. But I didn't do that last year. And so I paid a fine and then paid all my taxes like at once, like normal. But the next year is- That sounds like what I'm going to do. Yeah, the next year it was quarterly and then covid happened and it moved one of the tax deadlines for quarterly so yeah i had one and
Starting point is 01:09:11 a half years worth of taxes due on july 15th and it was such a comically like large amount of money that i was like like of my income of like my you know money that i thought it was mine that i was just like no and it's like obviously i i paid it and and talked to tax professionals and stuff but it was terrifying yeah that's awful i need somebody to help me with my taxes i need to like get a well yeah we'll talk after weirdly easy to do it just feels like something that should be super super cumbersome no one gives you the, why is this stuff not taught in like high school, right? I know. I literally found out about quarterly taxes from a Tiffany Frigg video. She was like,
Starting point is 01:09:52 oh yeah, I'm self-employed. So I pay my taxes four times a year. And I was like, are you sure? What? Yeah. Because you're what? Yeah. If I recall, the tax wasn't like a crazy amount of money for not doing it so it wasn't like the world the end like the end of the world but it is a thing that's like annoying but uh we'll talk more about taxes uh when we go when we get audited tax stream tax boys um oh my gosh thanks so much d'angelo for joining us on sad boys no problem we you are a fantastic guest and i we would love to
Starting point is 01:10:23 have you back. And there will be consequences if you don't. We'll just put it that way. Oh, yeah. Is there anything that you want to tell your audience or anybody who's a fan of yours for a long time or just learning about you for the very first time? Basically, you look fantastic today. Everybody who said otherwise, why? I would know because obviously I'm the expert on these kinds of things. Honestly, just keep killing it. I know that your life is falling apart because of COVID. That's fine.
Starting point is 01:10:54 You deserve better than what's going on right now. So just hold out and it's going to come, I promise you. I love that. We end every episode of Sad Boys with a particular phrase. We love you. and we're sorry.

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