Sad Boyz - The Cringiest Song of All Time

Episode Date: February 2, 2024

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Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. And I'm Jordan. Were you just doing my line? I was doing it better too. Okay, better. For the audio listeners, Jarvis didn't say a word at that. I'm kind of like a puppeteer.

My hand is in Jordan's ass. My other hand. I'm a real boy. Yeah, yeah. I just make him yap. I'm talking to myself as this podcast. I can't even do a 1% impression of you. Same.

I think I have talked to you more than anyone else in my life on mic. And I'm not even close. I'm the same way. And I don't understand why. I haven't figured it out. Because I can't do you. I can do other people that we know. We probably would scrutinize our

impression of the other person more because we know the voice of you it's like when you look into a mirror and uh you see the reflection of yourself but that's what your own real version of yourself is and then you see a photo of yourself you're like that looks wrong what did you do yeah you hear your own voice through like the the uh your own ear canals and you're like your vibration and they're like get rid of him remove the voice i'm still getting Or you hear your own voice through like the, your own ear canals and your like jaw vibration. And then you're like, get rid of him. Remove the voice. I'm still getting, am I used to that?

I am used to it, but it's like a third person. Like there's me in real life and in my own head. And then there's like the me on camera and on record where I'm listening to it. And I'm like, oh, okay. That's okay. Yeah. That's what Jarvis sounds like. But that's not what I sound like to me and I'm like, oh, okay, that's, okay, yeah, that's what Jarvis sounds like. But that's not what I sound like to me.

I'm not him. I'm sure if I listen back to like, like one of our meetings or something that I feel like that's a little bit more, maybe an organic version of me, but even, I feel like Sad Boys, Jordan Jarvis is very different than Jarvis Johnson, Gold Jarvis or Jordan Adika Channel.

True, true. For obvious reasons, it's a performance and it has a different function, but it's also like a cadence, the snap. Yeah, can you imagine if someone was performing

a solo YouTube video during a podcast? It would just be too, it would be like, shut up. I gotta make a joke. It gotta pause you. Yeah.

Do the one again. Yeah, let's run that back. do wonder how many uh other shows we'll do a cut here and there but the cut is usually because we uh like we're trying to remember something specific or uh because we say like a real person's name or or you leak my address as you often do usually i'm just cutting out of all of uh jordan's jokes yeah yeah if you ever feel like i'm not funny out of all of uh jordan's jokes yeah i'm uh yeah if you ever feel like i'm not funny or interesting on the show that's actually from the edit jacob secretly told jordan that he needs more hours so jordan adds 10 extra hours of throwing in things to pick out of the edit that's true actually i'm responsible for a lot of your

income when i say that thing about those people don Don't, well, when you say it like that, it sounds like you're doing a hate crime. Let's just say off mic, we both agree that we're on the same page. No, no, we're not. But they are like that. I don't know who we're talking about. Say no more. I will say more.

I'm not on board. I'm no part of this. Me neither. It seems like you're trying to wink, but are you okay? Oh, I'm fine. You look like you've been staring at screens for too long. Your eyes start to twitch. What do you mean?

Dude, I hate that my mom was right about spending so much time with screens. My eyes are getting weaker. My eyes twitch. My back hurts. I do play too many video games. You know what's wild is, one, I remember the first time my eye twitched, I was a teenager and playing RuneScape,

and I remember going to the bathroom and looking, and I could just see my eye throbbing. And I was like, oh, no. That's when you know you've mastered the wildy. Right, right. That's when I really got my gamer cred wildy right right that's when i i really got my gamer cred i was like my eyes were failing but then i got uh you know i did this internship in like college started to get headaches because i was like staring at text on the screen all the

time because i was like writing code and then i got uh my i went to an optometrist for the first time. I got glasses. And they're mostly reading glasses because of the type of issue I have. It's like with my focusing muscles where they like are weaker. Your muscles are weak and pathetic. They're weak and pathetic. And so it's like I can overcompensate, but it causes strain. And so I have 20-20 vision. Do you ever wear contacts? I do have contacts um but historically

i never wore them i did wear them for a bit in 2021 i also feel like i remember us when we first worked together you wearing glasses more yeah i used to wear glasses more but what happened was that when i quit working in tech well first of all my optometrist was like you it's funny because what's wrong with your eyes would never have come up in any other generation like right yeah like because it's like only that you're staring at screens all day um and i'm like nothing was ever this close well because because it's like most people didn't read i have like 2020 vision but it's that i'm overcompensating to get there and thus like tiring my eyes out and ever since i quit working in tech my eye strain issues have been so much less pronounced that even though I still stare at

screens all day, I like don't always have to wear my glasses. I only wear my glasses when I'm, I can kind of feel it coming on and then I'll be like, okay, let me pop on my glasses. And you can see the eyes shaking. I'm going to do like, yeah, I'm about to do a staring session at my phone, an extended scroll, so to speak. And that's when I'll bring out the glasses but um i really want to make a very specific niche like runescape joke for you but a lot of the i already spent wildly yeah i already burned that token and everything else i know about runescape was so broad because it was just playing it at the original time and haven't touched it since yeah because i'm not a loser

yeah that's fair don't take off my glasses i'm not a nerd i want to give a shout out to my musophonia heads in the audience my apologies for making mouth sounds i can't help it it's just what my mouth does but we are making attempts to address the issue at but when i do read the comments about it it does feel like someone is has put on like special glasses where they can see something that i can't see i'll just be like oh god my ears i can't with the sounds and i'm like please just give me a time stamp i don't know like when i listen to it i don't hear it the same way that youation but you're valid you're valid 100 it's just that uh you know we we try you know we're not out to get you we're not doing this on purpose we're you know learning and growing and except for jordan he's out to get you let's just say maybe the patreon version can you imagine that would be so fun and there's no other benefit

at all that's like that's at all. That's like America. If you become rich and famous, you no longer have to like, you have all these privileges. People don't treat you the same way. It's like a subscription service that's very expensive. You get the privilege of not dying from a splinter. The privilege of not dying from a splinter, from not going into horrible debt from

some sort of medical emergency it is amazing the cops might recognize you and that's treat you differently and give you more time to run away from the bullet yeah before before shooting going like i saw the black white thing that was yeah nice i learned nothing i learned nothing true. I feel like they should say that. Yeah. By the way, did I pitch you already on my idea of we just do one episode of Sad Boys where no matter the content of the show, the thumbnail is us both like running down the street

and it's we stole a cop's gun. Gone crazy. I do think that's fun. Do the A-B test. That's one of the options. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When they let us A-B test titles, then yeah, we just go wild. There'll be a, it's like opening a pack of Pokemon cards.

There's a chance you get a rare title and thumbnail. Ooh, I got a cop's gun. Ooh. Brock's gun. Also speaking of, sometimes and oftentimes, actually, you will see various thumbnails for the show because we use the A-B testing feature because we're still trying to learn like what elements of thumbnails make them most clickable and yada, yada, yada as we try to make things sustainable. I think that people like assume that whatever we put out, whatever way we put it out, it's going to be the same amount of success no matter what. People don't think about the, on the back end, we are like constantly trying to, how do we make this relevant? How do we make it so if the algorithm shows it to our the people

that want to see it and it's a you know it's a war that we're fighting every day against the algorithm thursday group chat there's a group chat there's like the uh it's like the forum in ancient greece you know let's go like i think i don't know enough about philosophy like i think we should skateboarding should be illegal i don't know right no philosophy. Like, I think we should, skateboarding should be illegal. Right. No more, no more Coliseum stuff. What if we just did like cool tricks? I guess at some point someone did come in and went like, no more Coliseum stuff. Where did Coliseum stuff end?

Because they still have it, but they don't do blood splotting. It's not on like Seat Geek right now. You can't like book a. The Splash Zone. Yeah. Yo, dude, I got the fucking nosebleeds of a Coliseum. Yeah, it's not on like SeatGeek right now. You can't like book a- The splash zone. Yeah. Yo, dude, I got the fucking nosebleeds of a Coliseum. These seats are ass, bro. There's not even a Jumbotron where I can see what's down there.

It's weird to think that like at some point legally, we just all have to go like, I just, no more duels. We just can't do that now. The duels are a crime, actually crime i know like we you can't go to like um we hawking and like shoot aaron burr or whatever or like alexander hamilton fan the hammer yeah what's that about in american history there's a lot of like physical fights that break out in like the house and senate and it like affects people's political careers well some of which because they die like for example alex Hamilton, you know, hugely impacted his career.

Much. Yeah. Dying. Much like the musical of the same name. Like they went to this island in New Jersey. And then like with a doctor, like you're going to like a boxing match and you've got like a coach or something and you bring a gun and you guys just point your gun at one another and then you shoot i i don't understand what's the doctor gonna do it's like the 1700s why doesn't every i that's how i want to go why doesn't everyone feel the same way yeah imagine a duel like within the 2020s did you guys know that there's a ridley scott movie called the

last duel yeah with uh when duels stopped what with matt damon and adam driver adam driver yeah it's very good and a little upset it yeah it's kind of like a rashomon type the same story three ways who's telling the truth and it's well, the one that's not lying. Um, for me, the last duel is about, uh, when I was in middle school in a Yu-Gi-Oh tournament. That's what it's about.

And I brought my, my deck and I, I drew my last card and my last duel. And I said, it's time to do, do, do, do,

do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,

do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,

do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,

do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,

do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,

do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,

do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, play a different game. It's time to duel. And then that's it. No more. You're played by Matt Damon. Oh, hell yeah. I'll take that.

Which, I don't know. Weird casting. Yeah, whitewashing, it happens. Michael B. Jordan plays Adam Driver's character. Oh, okay. I see. Yeah, only Michael A. Jordan was available for me. He's the white one. Well, no, it's Michael Asian Jordan.

Michael Black Jordan. Right. Michael Caucasian Jordan. Yeah, Michael Black or Chinese Jordan. for me he's the white one oh no it's michael asian jordan michael black jordan right michael caucasian yeah michael black or chinese jordan yeah speaking of uh speaking of card games jordan have you heard of metazoo um uh by name okay it is a it came out in 2020, like in the beginning of the pandemic, really, as like a Kickstarter game that was like going to be a Pokemon killer was the type of thing. It must have succeeded. They basically started, they started pretty strong. Instead of starting small, like we want to be a small, successful indie game and maybe we go from there.

We say, no, we're going to straight to the top. Pokemon still around or they get killed um let me check is pokemon still oh an email well apparently they a lot of doctors saying some stuff about oh it's getting a call to my bluetooth i'm just gonna ignore that we will not find out about pokemon because there's two my phone is overheating with messages from my doctor. And your doctor. No, he actually is on vacation. Yeah, no.

He died. It said from vacation. Oh, come on. He's like, hey, it's me. I'm in Kauai. I am on island time, but you are dying of butt disease. Yeah. He's like, things are great over here.

Not so great for your butt. He's a workaholic, man. Let me go grab something. Zip. Whoa. You're like, fake, fake, fake. Maybe, yeah, flintlock pistol, I feel like, is what I want to go with. But I don't want to, my issue with the flintlock is that it's the single fire,

and if it doesn't kill me instantly, I'm just like, if they hit me in the hip, I'm just like, oh my god, shit, ow. Do you know the story of the assassination of President McKinley? He was shot by a man named Sholgosh, who was an anarchist guy, and McKinley lived for days afterwards with all these doctors just poking around being like we can't find the bullet and this is like in the 1800s so they like probably did more damage he probably would have survived nowadays it's such a funny idea that like it's weird that we even called it medicine for hundreds of years

oh yeah could just be like the fact that you could be a doctor and wear a plague mask because your vision was so unimportant also the concept of bloodletting being a thing that like was like i don't know let's just uh bleed you out and see if that helps i think that's what i would have figured out do you know what i mean like if you out and see if that helps. I think that's what I would have figured out. Do you know what I mean? Like, if you introduced me to earth just day one, you're like, so we've got blood and I don't feel very good. We should take it. It's in there probably.

Yeah. Probably just remove all of the parts of your body and see if you're still in pain. It's pulsing all the time. It's like a heart. Okay. So it's, yeah, it's your heart. Oh, no. How'd you know it was like a heart if you didn't know what a heart was? It's just like a heart okay so it's a yeah it's your heart oh no how'd you know it was like a heart if you didn't know like a heart um so this is these are metazoo cards metazoo oh you

have the metazoo yeah metazoo is based on like crypto cryptids like cryptozoology you can grab some i'll hold your mic um oh this is kind of cool yeah this killed pokemon yeah as far as we know also anastasia's here that's the disembodied voice hi all right well this one sounds like a slur oh that's actually really funny uh if anybody is interested about my interest in metazoo i have my favorite I always have of course it is the beastie deity Negafook that's uh um do you remember Fairly Oddparents the crimson chin

yeah have you seen do you know about his alter evil alter ego oh the Nega chin yeah but uh

the way they say it in the clip is like the Nega chin oh don't worry you'll all But the way they say it in the clip is like One more take just maybe but should we do another take on that one? Watch that again. The Niggatons!

What if he takes off the strip and it's an N? So funny. I mean, it should be an N. It should be an N. But they instead put a cancel sign over the C for chin. That's what happens when you say his name these days oh man such a funny such a funny thing um so metazoo uh so the issue with metazoo is that it was purported you know they kind of did this fomo based marketing technique where they would release all these special sets and there's like

first editions of the sets and there's kickstarter editions if you're a backer like to the point where like the kickstarter booster boxes of metazoo like the very first set available we're going for like twenty thousand dollars000. And being bought? Yeah. And so what people started to view it as, especially the way people talk about it, is that like people invest in cards for better or for worse. And they're always looking for the next thing. And then also if you think about like NFTs, there's all this like FOMO thing where you got to get into the new NFT thing or the new crypto or whatever the fuck, because that's how you're going to make money. Remember when you didn't last time and it went straight to the moon? It went straight to the moon.

And so that sort of psychology was happening around this. We're like just countless YouTube channels are talking about investing in MetaZoo and then some sort of big, some sort, some bigger channels. I think like Logan Paul, you know, did a little bit of MetaZoo stuff. Something of a guru, actually. Yeah, collectibles guru. MetaZoo creator actually DM'd me on Instagram once and like offered to send me product and never followed up. And this was many years ago.

But the news is that announced yesterday, MetaZoo is ceasing operations. And the thing about MetaZoo is that none of it ever made sense because it's like an NFT. Does it make sense? Because no one's playing the game. No one's playing the game. No one cares about the game.

It's mostly viewed as an asset by people who have it. And so who's to decide if it has value, right? Like similar, like when people stop deciding that bored apes are worth millions of dollars, then the whole economy of it crashes. Well, it's because like if you start from a place of cynicism and like cynical profit, you probably aren't the kind of person that knows why people like things.

You probably don't understand why people like art. It happened there was a, I mean, one of the bigger comics crashes was the result of people or like Marvel DC, DC especially realizing that, hey, people are buying and selling these collectible comics. Action Comics number one is selling through the roof. We should start making comics that would be collectible worthy, which is why there was so much stuff like Death of Superman and then a long running post-Death of Superman, Death ofman type story and then you know if i feel like any adult with critical thinking would go like but if everyone if all of it's collectible yeah if every dollar bill is a hundred

isn't it all just now one like it's such an obvious and then all of those comics from that era are not worth anything the majority of them are not worth anything because they were like mass produced to all hell. And they resell them all the time. Like 16th print of Death of Superman. Oh, hell yeah. Wouldn't that be crazy? Yeah. And so he's dead.

Very similar economics happening here. And also all of the expensive sales for MetaZoo were happening on the secondary market so like yeah you know it's like metazoo isn't making money when one of their boxes sells for twenty thousand dollars because they're not the they're not ebay and so were they still doing stuff up until now like like doing a new release they just did well so that's the issue is that people the people buying their new product, again, things like Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh have a player base and they also have now two decades of nostalgia and like they've just been going and going and going. And so the machine is already running, but there's no IP, like the MetaZoo IP is just the cards. Even Magic the Gathering is still going and it's going strong, depending on who you ask. But like the player communityoo ip is just the cards even magic the gathering is still going and it's going strong depending on who you ask but like the player community is going strong sure and the uh

if bored apes was a mmo that we played when we were five exactly might have some cash that's the thing or like the dead naruto game like there was a naruto collectible card game that still is like pricey or the the dead dragon ball game before the dragon ball super stuff um came out that those still command value because it's a huge ip that has a lot of fans and so the overlap between fans of ccgs and there's just something but metazoo never had any of that and never had any players and it just all felt like this Bubble yeah, and and the bubble essentially popped They did this they did this. That's the thing about bubbles. I feel like if I was investing heavily in a Bubble cottage industry or something, yeah, bubbles gonna be big. Yeah, what happens when they get really they get They're fine It means similar thing happened with like graded video games.

It's like video games is a collectible, sure. But the issue was that people were basically kind of doing insider sales to kind of get media. Like it would be like buy, like I buy a Mario, like I buy Mario 3. I then, I buy it sealed somewhere for $100. Okay, that seems reasonable. It's an old game, sealed. That's cool. Then I get it graded.

I get it encased. I get it appraised and say it's in a high condition and then i have you as an investor say that looks pretty valuable i'm gonna buy it for five hundred thousand dollars then i say that yeah who am i you you're jesus you lost yeah you're jesus oh hey what's going on i got 500k over here you're not gonna believe now all i got is a skrilla um me so then you buy it you my friend buy it for 500 000 then a new story comes out saying old copy of super mario sold for 500 000 and then people go oh my super mario thing is worth money and then that cycle is kind of right yeah like and so that happened

with video games where like the values of sealed video games were like way up here and then but then there's no sort of how rare these things actually like who was buying it and who was buying them from who and then when there starts to be doubt that bubble okay, maybe these things are coming back down to a realistic value. And it's like no one's saying that they don't have value. But when they go from like this completely nothing to just these astronomical numbers, that's kind of what happened with MetaZoo. And at the end of the day, no one was buying the game for real. And they, other than people who would buy it and hold it and uh they did like a collab with hello kitty recently and it like completely tanked and like didn't sell whoa that's a wow failing at that i know well it's just that's the thing

with usain bolt it's a thing where thing where there was just nobody really interested. There's no true fans. And so the people buying it were collectors, but collectors can only prop up the thing so much. And so I think there's rumors. Basically, as far as what happened, there's just rumor mill right now. People are saying they owe the Hello Kitty parent company a lot of money for the licensing fees that are unpaid. were doing a bad job yeah she will goodbye kitty

you know what i'm saying she says that kind of goth one to break your knee yeah that's what they're that's what her shooters say before they kill you hey the kitty says goodbye um um hey motion motion uh hey john sayonara so to speak oh this guy's traveled traveled mafioso so now all the prices of it i bought these at target by the way because i was at i was at target the other day just like this week yeah yeah because they were sold in big box stores so i was like wow medizu's getting kind of mainstream like i literally texted curtis last week and i was like dude look there look, there's MetaZoo at Target. I was like, should I buy these? Just to, like, open them,

because I'd never opened the MetaZoo cards before because I thought it was a huge, like, kind of pump and dump. Yeah. And little did you know. I know, that was the thing. It just kind of felt like it just came out of nowhere, and everybody was, like, putting it next to Pokemon, and I'm like, what do you mean?

You were like, this will never kill Pokemon, and then you're spitting the's like it's like in rick and morty where there's mr poopy butthole or was it yeah where like mr poopy butthole was like there through all their stories and they're like remember all of our memories like because people started to put metazoo next to pokemon and they'd be like yeah metazoo pokemon yugioh and it'sGi-Oh! And it's like, how'd MetaZoo get here? Remember when we were kids on the playground and we were all passing around Mothman? Oh yeah, dude. Those obvious bots where like a new Ghostbusters

will come out and a bot that is playing a like 19 year old on Twitter will be like, butterfly tears remembering the first time I saw Ghostbusters in the theater a fucking decade before I was born. I know. You're like, wow, God, do you guys remember MetaZoo? I've always loved playing it.

So it is one of those things where people are calling it like a real life pump and dump because I'm sure a lot of people – it seems that the people at the top probably did not like lose out on this the real losers are probably going to be the people who are holding oh and me yeah i'm i'm the real loser because i spent 12.99 at target you did go to target yeah you did buy them from target i did buy them from target for 12.99 mind you maybe we should go not you know i should have known that um that the this was gonna happen because i i pulled out some like hol cards and I was like, oh, these are cool. I wonder if there's like values associated with these cards. And these aren't first edition.

And I could not find a person even selling a single one of those cards in non first edition. And I was like, oh, so everyone's selling first edition, but like there's not even a single person even listing non-first edition interesting um but yeah so that's i that's funny uh it's just like overlaps with my you know it's like i collect pokemon cards and stuff and i don't need them to be worth any money to be happy you know it's like something i just genuinely enjoy and if they're worth zero dollars i still have my cardboard and it makes me happy but but this now you're almost free from even getting it checked or being appraised. This is like when plans get canceled and you're like, well, I kind of wanted to go to the party, but I'm leaving it to myself, nothing to do. It's so interesting.

I'm curious what's going to happen because I feel like there's got to be millions and millions of dollars worth of product that will just like never be sold. Apparently, another one of the things in the rumor mill is that the like Chinese printer, printer of these cards, they're high quality cards. Like I'm, I was impressed. Yeah. The,

they apparently like owe them money and stuff. And I'm like, Oh yeah. So, but yeah, that's, that's a fun happening in the corner of things I pay attention to. That's,

I hope, I mean, I know it's, you know, a vague, I mean, it's a company, but I assume it's relatively small. I mean, that was humble beginnings or whatever, right? The people are doing all right.

Yeah. As far as I know, it's stayed a small operation. What I hope is that they were able to run away with a bunch of money and that people that contributed to the bubble screwed up permanently and unable to continue their quality of life and see that's the thing it's like everything falls apart for them i think it's like one of the situations where i'm sure that there are like like a lot like um normal employees that are not founders that are probably like screwed over um so i hope those people land on their feet um much like i hope the people who were recently laid off in all of the layoffs that are happening in the games world and in the tech world it's just like it never ends being laid

off than have ever played games yeah it is crazy yeah anyway i'm so it's funny now i feel like i'm so cynical about anytime i see uh well the word meta or zoo now. As soon as I saw that, I genuinely 100% was like, oh, is it like Jake Paul this time? He like launched a thing. I mean, it does have a name that sounds like a crypto scam, which is like given what happened kind of feels very similar. Yeah, like glum monkey. Dull, dull.

Yeah, fancy penguins. Cool, we can. Cool, cool cats. It's so crazy that people got behind. Jacob, Google cool cats NFT. Google cool cat. I'm literally just, let's find out if someone used that. Oh.

Oh, there it is on OpenSea. The cool cats homepage. That's so fucking funny, dude. Go ahead, buy all of them. It's a collection of 9,999 of them. Randomly generated. Let's check this. How much is it? I don't know.

I bought Ethereum. How much that is? 0.9. That's like $2,000. Yeah, but it's like cool. Well, wait. What is the price of Ethereum now? I actually don't know what the price of Ethereum is.

What's the price of Ethereum now? I actually don't know what the price of Ethereum is. What's the price of a Cool Cat? Yeah, she ate ethanol. Whoa! Okay. Yeah, yeah. $2,300 for a... Refresh me. Which one was that?

That was the... That was the... Neat. Very cool. I'm just wondering, but the thing is, I don't... It's got like a seal. Oh, yeah. Last sale was one but the thing is

it's possible that someone bought these or sold them and then like they've just been sitting ever since but i don't know order order order uh price high to low but its last sale was 8.9 so this last sale was like 20 grand wait do the hide a load uh yeah yeah yeah good lord what deranged for some new grounds last sale 110 to like 200 grand that's so i mean but i mean hey this is expense i can't act like I'm surprised because this is all. I mean, I hope all these people somehow make out like Bandit. I don't care.

I don't care. Let's... How much these people make out? All right, let's just kiss. That's the final episode. Ben Shapiro. Oh, yes. And...

People that made me happy. The man of the people, Tom McDonald had a farm. Old McDonald,. People that made me happy. The man of the people. Tom McDonald had a farm. Old McDonald, baby. They made a song. So for those who don't know, Tom McDonald, worth a look up. One of my favorite grifters follows a different, you know, if Ben is fact type, then tom mcdonald is hog type he's loud type he's like a cathedian he's a canadian ameribo it is yeah he's got the steven crowder issue but he like presents

himself almost the exact opposite way steven crowder does like nathan drake cosplay has a gun belt but can't buy a gun which is so so funny. You know, like, Seymour is always wearing his Nathan Drake gun, like, holster. He can't have a gun. He is Canadian. That's so crazy. I didn't know that we didn't let Canadians have guns. They can't have mine. Yeah.

Ain't nobody taking mine. Don't need to take my gun. That's very funny. But I found out about Tom McDonald because he had a TikTok about how people are too offended these days or something like that. And hey, look, broken clock's right twice a day, bro. I made a gold video about it, and I didn't know that he was as popular as he was. And then I also roasted some of his music. I was just eye eye rolling the entire time and and normally we wouldn't want to encourage platform people like this but i do genuinely

recommend people watch uh white boy for example his first breakout single well i where he hangs out in adult school i found out that he had like real actual fans because people were like um you you just don't understand, man. He actually has a really good message. I'm like, does he? Yeah, this lyric where he's saying that actually it's if white people are racist, then that means all Muslims are terrorists. That's his um actually in this new song that he's done.

In the new song? Yeah. Which is. Reminder that facts don't care about your feelings. And that's the name of the song. Facts. Facts. Yeah.

Quick summary to people. Tom McDonald is a man. Had a farm. I can't stop. Sorry. Every time. Say Tom McDonald again. Tom.

McDonald. Had a farm. No. He knows he's bleeding. He can't stop. And on his farm he had a gun no no no no no you're canadian you can't have that we're gonna take it back yeah he's just he's a little marabou guy in the style of steven cradery except for the fact that instead of doing toothless dull annoying debates with people that are busy and trying to go somewhere

um well you know they take out their airpod as he yells like hey do you think women are actually they suck actually and they go okay yeah man um and he has to edit around it instead this guy makes sub mid music i don't want to say mid insulting but not enough but also it's relatively well produced is the content of the song which doesn't hit one thing he did do that was kind of funny is his beef with uh uh maddie raps like old old school like epic rap battle era matt matt leaf mac lethal oh mac lethal yeah i remember mac lethal he did the like the like 18 styles of rap.

Miracle, miracle. Yeah, he's like, I'm going to show you. And he's like got crazy crisp on his mic where it's just like. I'm a man, I'm not a good man, but the plan. Yeah. And I'm a lyrical miracle. It's an awfully hard one. Hierarchical diabolical.

But this, it's not as interesting as the cringy one we're going to to get into but this was genuinely a pretty biting diss track i don't even really understand the origins of the conflict it's not nearly neither of them were interesting enough to me to get into it in detail but it was pretty he kind of he kind of popped him on that one it's the one good or impressive piece of work he's put out. Other than that, his grift is yelling about a kind of base feeling that people have, kind of dog whistling like, hey, you guys feel like there's a white genocide going on?

And then as soon as you walk over and you're like, hey, that's not... He goes, well, I've got a bunch of friends that are black friends too as well yeah his stuff is i mean the stuff i've seen people are good yeah he's just like actually they wake up sheeple they don't want you to know the stuff i know and i'm just telling it like it is and then when you read the comments which i did because i was trying to figure out why people were mad at me uh the well there's one reason a lot of the comments a lot of the we started playing this game on stream where it was uh we would search for the phrase i don't usually like rap music his audience is full

of like i'm 65 and i don't know too much about this hip-hop stuff but wow your message really spoke to me and i'm gonna have my kids listen to this some of this hippity hop tends to scare me a little bit but the stuff you're putting here i take the c away from rap that i put in front of it yes i actually um i think i see you you're achieving what hip hop always aimed to achieve, but never did. And there's something about you that I can't quite put my finger on. Brother, you and me, both red blooded Americans and me here in my rip off Oakley's with spelled with like two E's in my pickup truck. It's never held any lumber. Oakley, like rockley

from my fake oakley's looking directly into my frame and it's reflecting into my glasses you can see that i'm on like a just a iphone so old you didn't know they still could even have that or charge it and i'm here to tell you that you're inside about how black people make me feel uncomfortable intuitively but i don't know it it's because of tattoos or something. But you also don't see color or race in either, and that's the right way to do things. And actually also when I was, it's so, dude, he's just, it's almost like parody because he's a capital G grifter,

like classic, does not believe any of the things, not even is exaggerating belief middling career in music middling career in wrestling until he starts he takes his um right he's a man look by the way which is funny it doesn't matter he's like five foot tall but he who cares you know short short pulper not king he does not we support short king's been out this one uh he's a short jester. There is no relationship between the brand that he's trying to do visually and the ideas that he's putting forward. Because to play to this new base that he has, that he could always tout as, we're the number one song selling on iTunes right now every time he drops a new thing. And it's because, you know, 60 people use iTunes.

And every single one of them. Same with that Richmond, North of Richmond songmond song whatever oh yeah yeah but he is he is tatted up including uh hog i believe is on his chin which stands for hangover gang he's now sober by the way he got that at the time where him and his friends were edgy, crazy, fun time. But his whole thing is like, I'm not a thug like these black guys, but also I've got tattoos on my thighs. Blue lives matter. Yeah, there it is, hog.

I remember not knowing what that said. I remember I said, does it say hob? Like a goblin? Dude, we're hob gobs. out to room scape um what is that oh my god look at this oh politically correct not it's nega politically correct dude he's the nega he is the nega politically correct um okay um also before we get into this the accent where you were doing like the southern guy. This weekend we were playing Pokemon Go and it was like the Ho-Oh weekend, Shadow Ho-Oh weekend. And I got to Santa Monica before anybody else and I was sitting on a park bench and a man came up to me.

And he's an older white dude. And he goes, you know, I got a question for you because you're doing what I'm doing. And I was like, huh? And I look at his phone and it's got Pokemon Go on it. And he goes, that's awesome. Where do you find Ho-Ho? Oh, that's so sick. And it was like, this is actually the most sweet moment ever.

So I walked with this dude for like a block and explained some stuff about the event. He was like, my family didn't want to come with me. So I came out here myself from tustin whoa which is not that far away yeah yeah but a little trip to to the to the santa monica but yeah i it was so sweet so shout out to that guy never got his name hope he caught a shiny shadow oh maybe he's in this video um he would never he he too honorable yeah i mean it we should say tom mcdonald's greatest crime in my opinion because probably everyone's a fucking drifter in this in this political sphere right sure his greatest crime is how incredibly fucking corny he is he's so i mean that's always been my obsession with him is just he's very corny it's so embarrassing he takes himself so seriously

presents himself with like this i mean even this photo is so funny this is something i'm incredibly clean airsoft pistol he clearly just bought uh so number one corny rapper finally has developed some clout that i can get behind by introducing um hip-'s finest My favorite other munchkin of the internet Someone who famously hates rap music Hates rap music thinks that it is In its essence a dangerous thing And also would say you know anybody that presents Themself kind of you know a little thug

Maybe Has some of the thug elements Of Tom McDonald as a dangerous thing The way they've airbrushed this cover is crazy it looks like the last of us it looks like one of those fan-made posters for a movie that's been announced but there's no trailer yet oh my god the uh also doesn't ben shapiro have that famous uh quote where he's like if you think rap music is real music, then you're wrong. That's fact, you see. Yeah, I see. The Tom McDonald ex-Ben Shapiro, Hunter Punter.

Let's go pull up the trailer. But I do acknowledge that Tom McDonald has very real fans, which is rare for these spaces. Yeah, not inflated or explicitly paid for. I don't think they're – yeah, like it's, I think oftentimes people, you know, over-inflate their numbers, but I genuinely, his stuff gets really good engagement. I, look, man, I think there is a, I think there's a tendency for, you know,

discourse-y stuff online to maybe lose itself a little bit too much in like the quality of something. Like, hey, the Daily Wire movies suck. Look how poorly they're made and it's like well they're poorly made because the people behind them aren't talented and they're stupid yeah and nobody with like talent or commitment or willingness to work hard would share the ideology of the daily wire so wouldn't be able to bring their talents to it but tom mcdonald not a particularly talented technical lyricist rapper anything like that but he is like you know serving a pretty generic package like what he's putting out is like pretty palatable it's not like weird oh yeah but it gets to mask itself as counterculture. Right. And people that are just, there's nothing wrong with feeling like there's something off about life.

There is. Americans are being, well, but Americans in this particular case, slash Canadians, are being screwed over. Yeah. But it's not by people saying, please stop shooting teenagers. Yeah. This is bad, actually. Or like, hey, I don't know, maybe don't get mad at like a, please stop asking my child what their genitals are.

That would like, like, stop asking to see my child's penis. Also, and I'm sorry, we haven't gotten to it yet. Can you hit escape real quick, Jacob? Scroll a little bit down on the sidebar. First video on the sidebar. We don't have to click it. Deer Slim produced by Eminem?

No, it fucking wasn't. Unless you just took the stand. Wait, can you actually, can you click on it? What's the beat? Oh, he might've just bought an Eminem beat. Because you can do that. Deer Slim, I thought you might've heard of me maybe. Because lately everywhere I turn,

someone's comparing us crazy. I never would've thought we'd be pumping binky and pocket. Oh, beat produced by marshall it's crazy how much of his material is just saying the same shit over and over it's telling you that he says shit not saying it that's it's like i feel like when eminem did that it would be in the same song where he said something extremely offensive. Where it's like you could not argue whether or not it was offensive. Dearslim, you've probably heard of me by now because people compare us. What university live on? Because you are white, I guess.

Tom bought it himself with a bid of $100,000 from an auction. That is so sad. What a bummer. Because it's like, I have no problem with people paying for beats and stuff like that. That's just how the business works. But he literally, you know he bought it just so that he could make it about idolizing Eminem. That honestly bums me out. That legitimately makes me feel bad.

Can you go to dear slim genius lyrics because uh i just want to read the lyrics in case um we can't we get claimed for the song and first of all he's a genius so he'll be on there oh dude i pulled i have the genius pulled up on my phone for the new track yeah and every single ben shapiro line has been annotated by someone being like here's what this is Thank you So he goes Dear slim. I thought you might have heard of me maybe cuz lately everywhere right turns someone's comparing us crazy It's funny how I already knew I like knew his flow comparing us crazy comparing us crazy

i never thought i never would have thought when i was bumping biggie and pock that i would buy bleach in a box and become a product of shady oh because he bleached blinded his hair but i'm here now thought that hi my name is tom mcdonald people call me controversial i'm the one that counterculture follows that is false dude counterculture that is absolutely no counterculture follow it's very much monoculture brother who's more counterculture to mainstream america than mainstream canada that's pretty fucking counterculture every song i drops a problem it's funny how they've uh oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? They're like, oh, he's doing a little slang here.

It's self-conscious in a way. It's like 30 Rock, really, really dense jokes in the script because they're competent enough to make all the jokes really strong. Lil Wayne does a lot of internal rhymes because he's talented enough to make them really strong. If it's just like... This feels more someone that uh when they tell a joke like you know stand-ups they'll go like and that's when my wife said hi uh they do that because they're self-conscious about not getting a laugh or something it's like i haven't done anything substantial yet i'll just do more of it i can't take any pauses i can't slow down i'm saying words

i offend an awful lot with topics commenting on race and politics i'm pretty awesome that's so cool okay this is great i haven't heard this part but the next lyric is dear slim i know we're very different politically seems like some of your biggest fans are the victims i'm triggering okay which is saying something by the way but uh nothing specific they're convinced i don't like you which ain't consistent with history i was picked on as a kid and they don't know what slim did for me but i'm here now and i fight this system just like you okay it's not i don't think you're fighting the same system um you mentioned uh shady had dropped a track in like encore era that was just like uh instead of being like hey i'm gonna like prove myself and become a part of the mainstream rap community and like prove myself to the to the masses of the gate to the ogs instead he was just like

stop being mean to me because i'm white it's actually good yeah i mean he does kind of make some of those there okay he makes tracks about it yeah there's a few lines like that but they're they're i think we're tastefully done and they're clever yeah they're clever instead of this is just i mean just like how he's referencing saying he says some stuff but isn't saying it in this song. He's just referencing like, yeah, I like some of the, you know, the victims, whoever, nothing specific. People claim that you hate me, but Marshall, that can't be right, dude. You'd have to hate yourself as well because, Marshall, I'm you.

Oh, sorry, I just realized, yeah. Three of the last four lines end with you that's trash actually two of them are just like you but yeah i think that's fine because i believe in internal rhyme but i just don't think that's what's happening here well there's not there's not like uh i mean yeah there's no stringent rules to any art right but this is there's no stringent rules to any art, right? But this is, there's no fucking punch. There's no reason that this is a, there's no like thematic link between these. Like he's just saying the thing again. If Eminem who had written these lines,

the internal rhyme would be insane between these two things. And they would also like, you know, mean multiple things. Marshall, remember back when you became m&m you changed the world with a pen well now i'm just like you changed the world dude well there should be called dear dad please come back people say that you hate me dad um you'd have to hate yourself as well i'm your notice me senpai the song i don't give i don't give a what saying what i okay that please tell me god

that's the f word that's fuck this is uh like every hook he does i don't always what na na na it's always some like shitty royalty free style just like na na na backing everybody triggered and they think i suck why do they say that oh yeah he doesn't he doesn't really swear to you which is oh i mean he has but there is this weird you can see it as his grift increases his uh that's fast this what a fascinating dear slim i thought that maybe because you paved the way for me he did it't for you. He doesn't care about you, dog. You might relate to weight that Caucasian rappers are carrying. Oh!

Yeah, man. They're constantly comparing us to you. It's embarrassing. Cause we're so, we suck. I feel like even Asher Roth has a better song about being compared to Eminem than this. Well, yeah, I mean it. Cause it isn't just saying like,

people will be, this is a song about how people are being mean can you please come help me everyone's bullying me i'm not gonna prove them wrong they're definitely bullying me by the way because of uh the because i'm triggering them it's not the quality of my work they actually like this is actually wild call me culture vulture garbage those are ignorant words i kill a vulture cook the poultry in a pan till it's burned this doesn't go anywhere though you like it's just it's just word it's like word play that doesn't actually establish like any meaning see see marshall i'm just like you i'm flipping the

bird oh right and what is but what's the vulture here again yeah it's like notice that none of this is annotated but also i'm like the only thing i should say like a poultry is a bird that's the only thing yeah that's actually very funny i'm flipping the bird i feel like this has to be a reference to the real slim shady uh but but like dear Slim I just want to give you your flowers I spent hours memorizing all your songs in 2000 you were the reason I screamed at all my teachers a teen this is actually embarrassing holy shit do you think that's like a wait do you think that's a typo? Does he really say, at all my teachers a teen? Maybe as a teen?

The reason I screamed at all my teachers as a teen. Yeah, that would line up with his like, with his fucking reading aloud for the class flow. This is embarrassing though. I'm here now. They call me controversial just like you. We're both white, both rap, both our eyes blue. Yeah, cool, man. It's like a love letter.

I feel like this shouldn't be like public. This is creepier than Stan. This is like way more intimate than Stan. This is actually, what's crazy is Eminem wrote Stan about people like this and he missed it. He missed the point. Yeah, even in the music video, he's like doing that and it's like his the message wait there is an annotation in a crypt youtube reaction he breaks this line down oh no vulture cooked the poultry the poultry is chicken or birds and he's flipping the bird he's flipping the bird in the pan look right yeah nice he's flipping the rhyme scheme okay he's he's he's

saying hey hey screw you i'm not a culture vulture actually it's so funny i i just don't know nobody calls him a culture vulture that's not the thing people call drake a culture vulture uh you don't have any culture tom yeah canadian in the song dropped 100 grand to get a beat from jd don't have any culture, Tom. You're Canadian. He admits in the song, I dropped 100 grand to get a beat from Shady. Oof. Don't admit it. Whether you love or hate me, you think I'm crazy. Dropped 100 grand to get a beat from Shady.

I really hope when I bought it, he wasn't angry. But I had to tell him that he changed me. Okay. The truth of the matter is without you, Marshall Mathers. Okay. All right. This is tooathers. Okay. All right.

This is too Stan. This is too Stan. The whole song is the last letter he sends. It's in the car with his girlfriend and the drug just riding from the beginning. There's just never a situation where the right response to people pushing back against your work is to go like uh it's you're do you're getting mad at me this is this is matt rife yelling at a five-year-old it's so funny because people did protest m&m one uh for valid reasons but then also it was at a time when that wasn't like a cultural thing where there wasn't cancel culture it was like people were actually

like picketing m&m and it's different when you're doing fan fiction it's different when you are a elvis cover act yeah yeah you don't get to like people don't come to you and go like hey you know this i'm just like you i'm just like you dude people are mad at me they they say i'm not nothing but a hound dog i'm just like you you see hello here's another letter please cool guy though um neat but uh new track does feature benny schwa oh man i can't think now i just keep thinking about how much rhyming is in stan the song and how much rhyming wasn't in that song and how much just that was i mean you can tell with that it kind of basically just was the letter do you know what i mean there wasn't really you

could just break it up take away the rhythm a little bit and i'm like okay this is all very literal like you're just saying the thing that was the case there's no metaphor allegory no nothing yeah because it's too like hard i'm not like literally i just thought of a line from stan where he's like uh i'm really honored you would call your daughter that and here's an autograph of your brother i wrote it on a starter cap it's like there's so much like internal rhyme in that uh but then but and not just for lyrical miracle clout no it's like it's still telling the story yeah it's dense uh But then he's like, the only wordplay I saw was the flipping the bird thing. And it wasn't even like, come on. I mean, that would be like if in Stan, he was just like, hey, yeah, we're the same.

I'm in the car and I can't wait for you to get my letter. And I can't wait for you to get my letter. I got my middle finger up. Remember? You don't like stuff. I just drank a fifth of vodka you dare me to drive other eminem lyrics i don't do you like um uh the we're white right yeah that's crazy that's in asking for white rapper solidarity from eminem is wild in 2023

but uh the only he really might be the only person less cool than ben shapiro i think at least ben shapiro believes what he's saying a lot of the time i mean i actually think those were bars i just think he's wrong but i do uh believe he believes what he believes you are uh being weird i don't know if i can listen to that okay Okay, so this music video is called Facts. It's Tom McDonald featuring Ben Shapiro. Tom McDonald is wearing a sweatshirt that says, I don't care if I offend you. Ah, is that true?

Ah, God, I'm so offended. Okay, wait. Well, no, hold on. Hopefully I don't get offended. Because the one thing that would have helped is if he cared. And then maybe he could have apologized, helped me through this.

Again, it still hasn't clarified what it is that he does to offend me. His apparel and the things he says feel like they should be bumper stickers on like a truck with big fat truck nuts under it. I don't care if I offend you. Honk if my driving sucks. I don't give a shit, actually. Baby on board. My baby's a gun. How about that?

And I'm bored of this shit. So I'll kill you. I guess. Long bumper sticker. Oh, weird. Honor roll student. Mission Valley senior high.

Vancouver. Oh, go ahead. Oh, and then Ben is wearing a fact. It's the dare. It's the dare logo. Very cool.

Yeah. And it says, says uh facts don't care about your feelings that's so cool dude also by the way hangover gang very oh my god they aren't in the same place oh not at all look at that shoulder oh he's got like he's doing like day for night oh my god this is crazy on two separate stages they didn't even meet for this yeah this looks like an amazon photo shoot where it's like okay we need to change what the shirt says right we need to photoshop the graphic onto the t-shirt these are just two different models on two that is wild okay that's so cute so yeah what how did you want to do this? Hilarious that they are. It's the only time I've ever seen an image where these two guys aren't way shorter

than the other person. It is weird seeing. It's forced perspective. That's like the whole bit. So we can just watch through. Story one, I thought what we could do is I will read you like the first

because I tried to with like a few other things but it was always too obvious or like a little too slow. So I thought when we get to the Ben part which we can even

probably get to pretty fast in the edit because the Tom show is all the same. Instead I thought I'd give you like a line or two and see if you can guess where it's going

because a lot of them all right i'll try it's all trash it's all obvious but it's also like you know he's just bench bureau can't help but target stuff that other people have forgotten to care about culture war boys it'd be like just being like and, and that's why I didn't like the Marvels. Right? It was like, oh, we have, that has, should have sailed. The Inhumans sucked. Remember WAP? I didn't like it. Yeah, we were cool, but I guess I forgot till now.

Remember when I completely owned myself? Don't forget. Remember when I admitted that my wife has never, I've never pleasured my wife? A downright dry bones of a wife. Oh, no I'm the biggest independent rapper in the whole freaking world It's Real quick immediately The first thing the first thing he said was there are two genders

Okay, wait. Just wait till he starts talking about his gender. It's funny that he had to clarify, there are two genders, boys and girls, as if we don't know what the conservative talking point is. Thank you. I mean, that's almost like, it's like AI. It's like, wait, what do I? You know what? That's like a brainstorm board of boring talking points for cultural bullshit. It's what like DeSantis had before

it's like okay oh it's two genders uh Disney uh it's like when uh Ramaswamy right before the Iowa um not caucuses but uh primaries right before the Iowa primaries was like and by the way there's only two genders oh yeah is will anyone for me? Do you guys like that shit? Is anyone gonna vote? And everyone said no Trying to get a high five Too ethnic Sorry Blackish Sorry too much melanin unfortunately

Muslim probably scary Also he did the thing where he like Like someone made Oh some conservative Made a 7-11, which is racist to him. Oh, and then he just photoshopped himself in a 7-Eleven costume. And I'm like, don't take that. Don't be like you.

That's the sad thing about this is like if you're a person of color, you have to go with the like racism. It's like, actually, it's funny. I am. I would be good at managing a 7-Eleven. That's. a little dance that's oh no just don't do it with you guys we're all down there flush my head in the toilet i'm the toilet boy i don't even care i'd love a wedgie that's actually really fun i love licking the boot yummy boot yummy boot all right give me the immediate beat it's so funny when he doesn't curse i know freaking world freaking world what are you 13 looking around for his mom in case he hears the whole freaking world if. We're already 13 looking around for his mom and

freaking world Not curse just don't use any of those words. Oh, what the heck? You just don't use any of the almost curses. I know then you the veep curse words. Yeah, it's like yeah Do some shit like do some like good place shit like at least make it Yeah, yeah, it sounds like the radio edit but from the beginning yeah what else did you just say oh um i'm not ashamed for being white no we want you to be ashamed okay but is he sorry that he's offended me at least yeah please oh no it's true he doesn't care if he does that nothing Nothing has offended me yet, but something will really soon. I'm waiting to be offended.

It's like, okay, I'm going to see if I'm offended, but all he's just saying is the things I expect him to say. I'm not offended because I'm not surprised. It's almost like he's doing cameos of the offensive things he thinks he said. Because he's just saying, like the actual song is, stop being mean to me i can say whatever i want remember white boy he's just saying that and then going like two genders i'm the biggest independent rapper in the whole freaking world and i'm not gonna

go to my freaking room and i'm not gonna clean it i'm not gonna clean my words and i'm mom you can go to hd double hockey sticks the vulture and spit on vulture in the publication. And I hate this nation. Just kidding. I love it. I'm Canadian. I'm never above it. I'm rubbing this alcohol like I'm above it. In Toronto. Where are the American flags at?

Remember when people would hang those. Dude, I can't remember what it looks like. Can you remember? Yeah, dude. You might not remember it because you grew up in Canada. Dude, we live in a Democrat state. I see an American flag every single day of my life. Also, yeah.

I never don't see it. You just become nullified to it. Like, you see it in the same way. This would be like him being like, what happened to freeways? This sounds like government-sponsored rap. I know. No, no. No, dude. It's counterculture. the freeways this sounds like it sounds like government sponsored rap like no no no dude it's counterculture biden would never allow it i've never heard a rap song calling for more nationalism i know unless it came from the fucking government it's counterculture but also don't please don't

defund the police yeah but also the cops i guess counterculture. I don't know what the culture is, I guess. I need them to lay out, like, what do they think the establishment is? Yeah. What do they think Biden thinks about gender? Yeah. He's 2,000 years old. He doesn't know about anything. He will not be able to complete a thought about it.

Like, whatever you are, Martin. And that's, you know, when they say there's two genders. Yeah, yeah. And I remember Bender from Fish Ringer. Oh, you remember that. And that happened to me. I watched that when I was 65. I fell asleep and I woke up and my nephew was my dad.

Okay, yeah. Cool, let's get you to bed, Grandpa. Let's get ahead. Come on, buddy. You look a little sleepy. Put on Tom and Tom so I can go to sleep. What, boy? He loves it.

Does that sound like a song that George george bush would love oh hell yeah dude this would cry in his uh you know like uh obama would have that curated my favorite albums of the year spotify playlist it's after the butterfly then renegade yeah you're like his interesting all right i've been replaced with blm blades or a rainbow. Are we still, pause. I cannot make it through a second of this. Are we still talking about BLM? Well, I guess what we're talking about is the BLM flag. Is that what they said?

BLM flags or a rainbow. The flag? Okay. I don't know if I've seen a physical BLM flag. It's so weird. It's like they live in a world where they think we wake up and we're like, yeah, Black Lives Matter. That's the flag that I raise. Yeah, literally, dude.

Okay. What? It's so hard to explain having priorities. We live in California and I see more Blue Lives Matter decals than I do like Black Lives Matter anything. Yeah, dude. I love your progressives, but you ain't pro-gun. No one to protect you. Where the American flags at?

Remember when people would hang those? They've been taken down. They've all been replaced with BLM flags or a rainbow. This ain't rap. This ain't money. Cause it. I don't think there's a single person. Okay, there's probably a single person.

But no one is taking down their American flags and hanging rainbow flags and BLM flags in replacement. Who's the guy who's like, well, I need to hang a flag. Yeah, I was enough of a patriot to have a flag at my house, but I put it on the little flagpole rope to replace it with like a flowing picture of Hillary Clinton. It is so funny to imagine this disillusioned patriot. Like somebody who's like, they're like, I've hung this flag for many, many moons,

but now's the time to take it down and solidarity. I just found out that racism was bad, so I've replaced my Punisher t-shirt with a picture of RBG. Yeah, yeah. My decal on the back of my truck. I no longer have, you can take it with my cold dead hands. Instead of the Punisher, now it's Big Pun.

Because I'm into hip hop. I'm actually, yeah, I took the C away. What a fucking, you know what he is, dude? He's just like, he's a Twitter lip. Yeah. Where like, he's so absorbed in what he's being told is happening because he is like he doesn't have any time to have well there's those guys and i know their names but i don't want to listen mention them because of you know whatever but there's those

guys on twitter who like have never stepped foot in the united states and literally just exist on twitter and just like it's like a video game. I thank you. I support our troops. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, if I said that while I was in England and I had never lived here, remember when,

remember when everyone hang American flags in America, it's like, we always mentioned this. This is Steve Carell and four year old version describing. It's like, you don't remember that. That is not from your history. Oh dude. These be the BN't remember that. That is not from your history. Oh, dude.

These B... The BNM flags that everyone's putting up now. The BDSM flags? The BDSM flags, dude. These days, though, Jacob, seriously. Dude, nowadays,

in the schools, they're doing the Pledge of Allegiance to the BLM rainbow flag. It's the shit that Rogan was saying. He's like, yeah, did you know

they had to... A friend of mine's son's dog's friend's dad, they had to install, she's a teacher, and they had to put in a litter box in the school. And then Jamie looks it up, and Jamie's like, I don't think that's the full story. And he goes, shut up! Stop it!

Stop it, Jamie! Eminem, I'm being bullied! Eminem, you and I are both white. Defend me! Yeah, like doing a Final Fantasy summon. Help! Dude, so sick. This is, by the way, exactly like Eminem.

True. This is what we're getting offended by. This is like Kanye West's stronger music video core. This is so embarrassing. Oh, dude. Can you imagine a tom mcdonald kanye collab the kanye would draw like what's crazy is even with the nazi pivot of kanye uh i still think he would draw the line at tom mcdonald he's too boring and you're like wouldn't yeah because they they try it out and you'd be like i don't want you you ruined the record it's so funny because

it's like it reminds me of that thing with kid rock and bud light where he was like shooting up cans of bud light when it was like a little culture war issue and then they saw him at a football game drinking bud light and they were like what's that about and he's like come on man let's move on hey whoa whoa i didn't mean any of the stuff i was doing it was all just for fun wait no i did it because i they like it when I did it. Because I don't... What do they even do again? A trans woman did a brand deal. No, they made it so the beer makes you trans. Oh, okay.

Jamie, look that up. Oh, I'm insane? Yeah, okay. I don't care if I offend you. Let me just say, first shot of Ben on the beat Just his stage presence alone I'm fucking blown away Might as well have been a cardboard cutout

This feels like it was art directed by an anime music video Like it That's oh their overlapping is so funny That's rough bro They really It's not meant to be frame by frame It's not meant to be frame by frame. It ruined it. It's not meant to be frame by frame. And they were like, no, we're going to overlap.

Like, we're going to make it look so good in post that it's going to look like we're in the same room. Oh, yeah. Gandalf is going to hand something to Bilbo just to really flex on them. This looks like he was... I can see the selection around his body. Like, they did not... Oh, dude, the feathering. This looks like a like snl

skit where they took a real ad oh no this looks like uh forrest gump where he's meeting the president in like archival footage also uh ben shapiro looks like he's in pain when he sings along he looks like he this looks like a like beheading video i mean i'm glad they gave him um a pocket hoodie because he he has such nowhere I don't know what to do with my hands. I didn't even know he had a lower body. I don't care if I offend you. I was put here to upset you. I was put here to upset you.

You know what the best part about this is? If anyone disagrees with us or leaves a comment, I was put here to upset you and offend you. Oh, are you offended? Guess what? I take off my t-shirt and it says, I take off my jacket and my t-shirt says, I'm really sorry

for offending you i didn't know i didn't because i didn't honestly my b dude it's like a screen print of a uh uh no tap apology yeah you really have to lean into my chest huh okay i guess pretty thought out all right hi uh yeah if you whenever we like to get a little closer i can explain that i've had a serious lapse of judgment yeah uh honestly i'm rethinking all my actions something about the nft scam i did under there actually it's scrollable yeah big big bends they were just various larger sizes of ben shapiro randomized i love him last one sold for 50 million dollars i just i can't believe how little energy he looked yeah he looks like he's kidnapped why is that hoodie so big on him because it's that's actually the smallest they

have it looks like a child wearing his dad's clothes yeah it looks like uh he peed himself in gym class and they had to give him the spare one that they had the nurse's office um okay police didn't get defunded they need to stop it at all i don't know what you think happened yeah they did not dude police funding is up and also i i always love these ones that like hey i'm not a thug like you know who, but also without the police, I'm going to kill you. Is that what you're saying, dude? There's no police. Who's going to defend you? From what?

Are you going to kill me? Yeah. Is that your plan right now? It's so funny because people do just run with it. They're like, oh, yeah, there's no more police now because they defunded them. That's facts. Sorry, what? Did I miss it?

Did not happen. Okay. Yeah. I guess I missed that. Yeah. We need like the Twitter community notes on this. Dude, that's what Jacob looks like. This is what Jacob looks like to us.

Oh my God. I ask myself, what would Ben do is the funniest thing I've ever heard. What would Ben do? WWBD, dude. What would I do? The first thing I would do is get my suitcase. I don't like to go anywhere without my briefcase. Well, actually, I would ask a few more questions.

I would do my homework. I would do my adult homework that I assigned to myself. What would Ben do? I would scowl at the myself. What would Ben do? I would scowl at the camera. What would Ben do? And it's like, I would stand there looking uncomfortable. I love the like Matrix, like this is the architect's room in the Matrix. And then like.

Every emotion he could have. Yeah. And then like Tom McDonald walks in for advice. And Ben is the architect dude he is kind of architect coded actually i think you need to offend he's annoying he's unclear he's verbose he doesn't help that's so and also he doesn't understand the matrix wait if you want my pronouns i'm the. I'm the man who don't respect you. Wait, if you want my pronouns, I'm the man? I'm the man who don't respect you.

Oh, okay. You know what? That is like a new level above like attack helicopter because the joke was, hey, do you want my pronouns? Okay. Then he just gave up. Yeah, you want my pronouns? He, him.

Yeah. What of it, dude? He, him who don't respect you. Yeah, that want my pronouns? He, him. Yeah. What of it, dude? He, him who don't respect you. Yeah, that's just unrelated. You don't need to like me to give me your pronouns. Yeah. Oh, for his birthday, I gave him who don't respect me a birthday cake. Also, he failed because man is not a pronoun.

He's trying so hard. But there are only two genders. Is he boy and girl, by the way? Don't talk about girls ever, actually. It's funny because people get so mad at pronouns and don't know what they are. I know, man. You know why? Until it became a dumb scapegoat topic, it's boring. Grammar's boring.

It's not an interesting thing to talk about. It's like getting a... If iceberg lettuce was a big argument point, I'm like, well, I just don't like it. I just don't want to eat it. I don't know why you're getting weird about it. You need to come up with a slur for people who eat lettuce so we call them leaf munchers whoa these fucking leaf munchers dude the nigger leaf nigger munch it just is the n-word like it's great i had forgotten how clear it was in that clip yeah it's very funny in my brain i've oh, yeah, it's like kind of close. Imagine it's more the N word than not. Yeah.

All right. Let's see here. So these are, we're about to get some Ben bars. I'm just going to pull up the lyrics in case they are unclear, but we can just do a couple, get a feel for it. Okay. And then I'm going to put Jarvis's powerful, something of a genius.com or whatever level brain to the test.

I don't care if I offend you. All right. Yeah, go ahead. Give us a couple bucks. That's fire. This is a poor recap. Let's look at the stats. I've got the facts. money like lizzo my pockets are

fat she has really fat pockets right that's not the pockets are like lizzo the money it is really well i guess he's not wrong because lizzo's pockets are fat she's very rich and successful yeah that's true she's extremely successful i guess he almost fat shamed her but then he he added a he added a clarification that he's just talking about her pocket. So shout out to Ben. This is, that's so. For complimenting Lizzo's wealth. Dude, it's so time captured.

Like anytime that they reference something, I'm like, oh yeah, I forgot people used to argue about that. Like Lizzo? I know. Who's that? I think like. Imagine Lizzo like touring and dancing all the time and then people being like she's not the way i want no no also i i don't think lizzo is a good um like weaponizable figure after all of the other lizzo drama from last year yeah like you just

sorry you can't use this sword anymore there's dog dog shit on it. Yeah. Yeah, that was like Lizzo. My pockets are fat. You know, successful. That's a fact. That's a fact. He says that's a fact. Let's look at the stats. I've got the fact.

I got it. The next one might be not to devalue the rest, but maybe my favorite in the whole one. Homie, I'm epic. Don't be a wap. Okay. Homie, I'm epic. Don't be a wap. Homie, I'm epic. Don't be a wap okay homie I'm epic don't be a wap homie I'm epic

don't be a wap epic it sounds like AAVE struggle tweets I'm extremely bin down based epic sauce

yeah dude no crumbs fan numb dog it's a yarmulke homie no cap is kind of that's that's funny

also there is annotation on every single one of these lines's funny uh also there is annotation on every single one of these lines my let me just take the annotation on the lizzo one ben refers to singer lizzo who is famously known for such hits as truth hurts and about damn time both of which hit number one on the billboard 100 very funny that it's just talking about how much more successful she is that's the intro being that Ben's... Lizzo famously known as being overweight. Being that Ben's pockets are fat with money, this could be...

This could be referring to him being rich? I hope so. Otherwise it's just like... Well, it's because his clothes aren't fit. My pockets are oversized. Yeah. I need a tailor. This is actually...

Someone please fix my pockets. I need tiny clothes. I need whatever they wear in the fix my pocket. I need tiny clothes. I need whatever they wear in the Snap, Crackle, and Pop commercials. I live in a little tree. I used to live in a Nike, but then they put a black man on it, and I didn't like that. The Jumpman scared me. I was mugged by the Jumpman. I was mugged by Michael Jordan.

By a billionaire black man. Give me a little more of this. Let's do one more. Give me two more lines than Jarvis can get. Okay, because the line he's about to say is a line that I watched a little bit of this and turned it off. And the one line that stuck out to me that I will remember forever is the the line he's on right now which is look at my graphs look at my charts which is so fucking funny i love like look at my charts is the funniest thing i've ever heard in a rap song i got you some shots look at my graphs look at my charts look at my graphs would you

like a different format of my curves look at my pie chart. I got you an X, Y, two as well. You think you're the shit, you're a knight, even the fart. Yeah, it is. I mean, these are the cultural versions of those. It's just, you think you're that thing? Well, here's something kind of close to that, but like not the same one. I looked up homonyms. Look at the graphs. Look at my charts. You're blowing money on strippers and cars.

You're going to prison. I'm on television, dawg. No one knows who you are. Yeah, dude. I guess in this shot, he is on television. Yeah, he's not on television. No, not at all. I mean, literally, I guess he is. Yeah, he's like, I'm on a few televisions behind Tom McDonald.

I guess technically if you, I don't know, Chromecast this to your TV while watching Sad Boys, we're on television, I guess yes but then also a homie i don't know who the target of this is i'm you're blowing money on strippers and cars i the people being offended oh yeah or is he trying to talk to other rappers i think tom riddle might not have told him what the song was about. And he's like, well, if I'm doing rap, then I'm going to yell at all of these blacks.

Do you think he wrote his lyrics? What, Ben Shapiro? Yeah. I think he just, this is his whole note. He's off the top of the dome. Yeah, dude. He's like Lil Wayne.

He has to search what racist things have I written before to make sure that he has them. Lil Wayne doesn't write lyrics down so he just forgets the song. I come up with my own slurs off the top.

Look at the graphs. Look at the graphs. Look at my charts. You're blowing money on trippers and cars. You're going to prison. I'm on television. It's like a fucking limerick. You're going to prison. I'm on television.

Wait, you're literally, you're going to prison. I'm on television. No one knows who you are. Oh, wait. Dogs. prison. Hickory dickory bin. No one knows who you are. Oh, wait. Dogs. Dog. Hey, dogs.

He's my little dog. All right, I want to guess some lyrics. Yes, let's do it. I'll do the next two lines and we can just play all of them. Keep hating me on the internet. That's the only place you are. My comment section all woke Karens. Oh, I didn't know that.

Are those... What do you mean woke karens but who are going to prison by the way so woke karens are famous for blowing money on strippers and cars and they blow their money on uh big white s multi like large family vehicles. They're buying it on that. And then they're also going to prison for white collar crime. And they don't have like Martha Stewart. That's where their pockets are so fat. Right. Like Martha Stewart. Woke Lizzo and Martha Stewart woke lib something or other.

It's kind of like a dream where like all of these things do kind of tie together but like you know when someone tries to describe a dream and they're like my uncle was there but he wasn't he looked like me but it wasn't me yeah yeah it's like okay ben i'm with you right i'm on television but i i'm not really on television but i was on a lot of televisions also at the time you don't have to rap about wearing a yarmulke, Ben. It's just kind of unrelated. Do it. My pockets are fat. I thought that was his best line. I'm epic.

Don't be a wap. Also, I'm wearing a yarmulke, by the way. Did you notice? Yeah, it's like none of it. It's like when I would write raps when I was like 18, just nothing connected to anything else. But then, you know, we didn't have the time to evolve and grow into the kind of lyricist these boys are at.

It sucks that Ben is pretty much as good at this as Tommy Donald. It's like really not that far. Keep hating on me on the internet. My comment section all woke Karens. I don't know if he was working through it. My comment section all woke Karens. All woke Karens. All woke Karens.

I wonder if we can, can we back up and then listen to it up to that line keep hating on me on the internet. My comment section on the world. Karen's. Baron. Waren. Staren. This one is a full stream with internet. And then the one after is a full stream with Karen's.

Okay. Internet. Binternet. It's. This is unfair. It's so bad Okay what rhymes with internet Well what kind of What's a word that's kind of like it

Net Bet The internet You couldn't win a bet Way too close to writing I'm so sorry say the line for me again Keep hating on me on the internet You couldn't win a bet. Way too close to writing. I'm so sorry. Say the line for me again.

Keep hating on me on the internet. My comment section will woke Karen's. Keep hating on me on the internet. My comment section on the woke Karen's making all the Benjamins and you all will just keep staring. It would make so much more sense. You've got the theme exactly right. The Benjamins element would have been good. At no point does he use that part, which would make so much more sense. No, it's...

Actually, let's just go ahead and play it. Yeah, back it up again and just play it all through. Keep hating on me on the internet. My comment section all woke Karen's. Actually, let's just go ahead and play it. Yeah, back it up again and just play it all through. He's back to his grassless shots, by the way. I make racks off compound. He rhymed internet with compound interest? Yeah. The rhyme being int? That is the overlap look what's a rhyme because he didn't even pronounce interest like interest which he which would have closer rhymed

to internet interest wait it was written for him so he doesn't know how to wrap it yeah so he's i'm mcmunt wait compound interest interest you live with your parents you live with your parents it's so scary in a house that has no parents sorry that's an it went to m m lines that wasn't tom at all no um tom looks very happy. He's so excited to be in the same room. So, yeah, I do think thematically, though, I did hit, like, roughly what he was going for. I mean, yeah, he's just doing the same tit for tat,

but his tit for tat, again, is like, look at my graphs. All right, what's the next lot? Like, let's... Nikki takes some notes. Mm- Nicky, take some notes. I just did this for fun. Nicky, take some notes? Mm-hmm. Nicky, take some notes.

I just did this for fun. Something about number one. Did this for fun. One, done. Nicky, take some notes. I just did this for fun. I'm going to hang up the mic, and when it's over, it's done. Nicky, take some notes nikki's take some notes i just do this for fun i make a better song than you and get number one

play it this for fun all my people download this let's get a billboard number one. All my people download. It's like an acrostic poem that like a five-year-old writes. All my people download this. Get a billboard number one. You could have. That's gone right in the fridge. The syllables are not working for you. You could have reduced the syllables and made it a little bit easier for him to ride the beat oh my people all my people download this and get it but it's like

he's quantized like he didn't they removed all this way they like had to make him on the beat they like had to edit him onto the beat because he wasn't previously on it dude pulling that's that's uh swing slider to zero yeah Yeah. Velocity to top. I want you to yell, bud. I'm glad he was able to, I mean, he crushed it.

He was more entertaining than Tom. Nobody, still no one's touched on what it is that they say that we don't, that we're offended by. Yeah.

I mean, other than just like, random, they just kind of shotgun approach a bunch of things that are culture war issues that no one actually cares about.

Like buying a car and going to jail. Yeah. Not to mention strippers. I think there was maybe like a bit. Nothing about the border. I think there was a miscalculation maybe because like, you know, when you get a,

you hear a feature on a track that's so clearly had like a really specific thematic purpose. Like the track is like here's my uh uh a major trauma in my childhood here's i used to be in the military here's something crazy that happened that's why i dropped out i used to be in jail here's the craziest thing whatever and then they get a feature on it that clearly tags on way late to give the sync the the single like a boost And then like 21 comes on and he's just like, I'm making money.

I'm having a nice day. And it's like, okay, there's just this, you defaulted to the thing that you write because like you weren't, there wasn't planning. Ben is just like, we're doing a song about offensive. So we're just doing racist. We're playing the hits. Black people steal.

They go to jail. They buy cars and strippers. I'm still thinking about that Billboard number one line, and I'm trying to see if literally anything in the line rhymes. Nicky, take some notes. I just do this for fun. All my people download this and get a Billboard number one. Dude, Nicky needs to start doing music for fun.

It's too serious. I just do this for fun do this for fun number one fun one download this do this this this all my people do this download this it's really i mean that one's just an accident it's like it's just like the i'm just looking for like it's just like that I'm just looking for more rhymes than just like syllable syllable syllable so bored technically rhymes. It's like a poem. Yeah, I mean it's just It's uh, what it is is like bad He's just it's instinct writing where you don't review what you've done to tie it in in some way

You only write linearly right? So like the reason he just says this twice in a row isn't because there's some kind of like internal links that's supposed to be there or maybe he's like alluding something it's a pun or whatever it's just he forgot to check the last line could have changed anything could have just not said uh all my people download that's so much it's so much yeah where does this go from here this song uh back to the killer does tom have another verse there's a lot of yeah left considering ben's that's what i was curious about that it's crazy that he's done like he didn't do that much at all he's

tired dude he's gonna go sleep in his shoebox yeah we ain't selling drugs we ain't gonna overdose we ain't pushing guns ain't promoting stripper pole this is why it's popular with 65 year olds, because the people it's popular with is people who are like rap music is about strippers and cars. That's all it's about, dude. And it's not about like, you know, it's not an expression of someone's material conditions or something like that. It's an expression of wanting to get nicer ones because black people have that special divot in their skull that makes them uh do hip-hop or whatever and so bragging about how you don't do drugs and stuff is so nothing right it's also i i i know it it's it's self-aware in the sense that they like don't have any principles or care about anything so they do kind of know what they're doing but play this last line again jacob and just

hang on the visuals right does why okay he's getting a mugshot yeah oh and he's saying but but i wouldn't go to i don't want to overdose i get a cool mugshot really with blue and red he's in costume and i'm white so together it's the American flag. Blue lives matter. How about that? What happened to flags? Remember the flags that we had? The American ones everywhere in Canada? What happened to maple leaves?

Yeah. For one. This ain't rap. This ain't money, cars, and clothes. We ain't selling drugs. We ain't gonna overdose. This ain't rap. This ain't money, cars, and clothes.

Instead, it's a rap about what we rap about, which is not what we like. We don't like rap music. Oh, no. We're making rap music about how we don't like themes that are in rap music. Also, he spent $100,000 to get a beat from Eminem because he inspired me and I love him. Yeah. Did I offend you with all of the talking about rapping that i did which i don't like also which i don't enjoy i i'm the number one independent rapper maybe true incredibly sad

i mean he shoots all these videos at home he literally he does and it is a there's something a little bit sad to me it's like when a comic gets like in some minor controversy and then instead of own up to what is the issue or at least counter it or something they just like delve into the alt-right they become that guy right it's like oh man tom i know you don't want to really be doing this like you would rather be just making the kind of stuff where eminem might notice you or like you're existing in a world where you are more corny and less admirable and less admired than mgk by a huge market which is wild rap devil is like less corny mgk is still mainstream tom mcdonald doesn't want to be one of the puppets

number one on itunes dude over 300 purchases that's like if how you if you get a book published and it gets bought by someone you're in the new york top there i watched a video of him um employing his family to package up his cds and i'm like that he sells physically oh and i'm like has it occurred to you sorry that if you can if you can manage the inventory yourself of the CDs that you're selling, you're not selling that many CDs. Yeah, that might be an issue. And also if you have an audience that's, I mean, that's it.

I'll just stop it there. Times have changed. CDs are over. iTunes is in. I see. I hear something about this thing called Tidal, and I'm pretty psyched to try it. Oh, yeah.

I've heard it's lossless it's going to make my anti-woke music go even harder oh dude it just sucks it's like if we were actually just kind of like moderate to right leaning conservative but we have to say the stuff we say

but our audience is mostly leftists I guess we'll just kind of it's fine, it's a job job whatever but we don't really mean it it's so it's like he can get away with it and whatever but there's got to be that tiny part of him screaming out and thinking like you know nobody gets into music with like plenty of people do it cynically like i want to be famous i want to be rich whatever but like it's not an easy craft to do day in day out unless you do have some dream this is the musical musical equivalent of an old standup comedian putting out a Netflix special called Cancelled.

Yeah. Problem? Question mark? Yeah. Oh, just a condescending guy. Telling it like it is. Because I heard you can't do that anymore. Sorry, not sorry.

Right. I'm going to get cancelled for this. With one of those like super, super high detail photos of them. Yeah. Stood on a stage doing this. Yeah. Huh? Like humping the stool.

What can I say now? There's two genders, little boys and little girls. You fucking freak. What a weirdo. Okay, is this basically where it goes from here? Yeah. I don't want to be offended. Let's be careful.

I'll admit it, dude. Benny gets so much love from me unconditionally because he's so adorable. It really is. At what cost? I'm a strong proponent that I think DeSantis could have easily swept up the primary if he went cute. If he put away all of that cultural stuff and instead when he gets swept up the primary if he went cute if he put away all of that cultural stuff and instead when you get like he gets up for the primary debate and he goes like I don't know someone says like someone says to Vivek they're like hey I don't like you'd like

probably do like bombing or something if you went like oh come on come on hey stop I'm adorable what are you mad at me nice we should start a rumor that Vivek Ramaswamy is from Kenya. No. What's your birth certificate to Kenya? Dude, this has 500,000 likes. Hell yeah. And 10 million views. Yeah, number three trending on music still.

Nice. Which, if your instinct is to point to that, by the way, and be like, um, yeah, you don't like it. Look at this. We're in. We're not mainstream. I've watched it probably five times because it's so fucking funny. It's so funny.

I mean, I don't, this is like, you know that old video of that, that like super early viral video of the woman stomping grapes, falling over and going like, oh, oh, oh, oh. It's like if we made fun of that and then she was like, oh, jealous.

Yeah, that's right. I can fall over like the best of them. The guy getting hit in the balls with a football. Yeah. Get on my level. Hey. Have fun, I guess. Good job, guys.

He looks adorable. Good job, fellas. That's fun, dude. Make him sleep in those pockets. Oh. A bit of a announcement. A bit of a follow-up on an announcement we talked about sad boys wiki oh yeah in the past and we ask and our community has delivered but they've delivered a little too much because there are like two sad boys wikis on like fandom.com or something.

And then I found – or everybody started complaining about fandom and saying it's a bad wiki and that we should use this other wiki instead. So then we started working on that too, but no one knows that that exists. So now there's three wikis. And so I just wanted to say that the official wiki for Sad Boys podcast is, we're pulling up the link. Give me a second. The official wiki is sadboyswiki.mirahese.org. We're going to put that behind a more convenient URL. But if you've worked on any pages from previous wikis, feel free to point the port them over here.

Jacob, can you check? Click on Jordan Adika real quick. I want to see if there's a vital detail that's been included. Career goals. Jordan has stated that his biggest dream is to be killed in a duel. Great. And that it would be so sick. That would be actually fucking the best.

Wow. And they have a link to when you stated it. I think my goal for my career would be to be killed in a duel. Oh, they're right. If I tried to deny it. It's 1155 a.m. right before high noon. I'm like, I never said that, actually. Good luck proving it.

That's me in the courtroom after killing you. But I am in the courtroom. Flies buzzing around. It's been weeks. Made my client approach the bench. They just drag my corpse to the ground. So our wiki is available at wiki.sadboyspod.com. And feel free to contribute.

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Do you guys do the wordle? No. Oh, I heard about it though. It was leggy. Oh yeah, no, I heard about it though. It was leggy. Oh yeah, no, I was infuriated. Fuck is that? It's one of the only times I ever got it too. I saw memes about it.

I felt patronized. They were like, sometimes wordle is a word. Other days it's leggy. It literally, it felt, I was really sad because I was like, my wordle score, I usually get it, but it's almost always the last one. I'm good at the crossword, terrible at at wordle something about my brain after two vowels are gone I'm like well there just aren't any more words that's most of them I feel like there's there's knee in everything I feel like the thing that bothers me about wordle is that there's like an objective meta because you can like what's the word that has like a bunch of vowels in it

and you can like start there and like kind of whittle it down my starter word is audio oh audio is actually that doesn't feel like a cheat word it's leggy but which actually still didn't get to the fifth one somehow spelled it wrong at first A-U-D-I-O. Beggy. Leggy. Oh, aren't they Lego? Lego. It's either a guy made of bricks or a guy with really big legs. Or an Australian that's saying, let's go. Lego. Lego.

Hey, Lego. Lego. Lego me ego. So, deepfakes. We're going to talk. Celebrity AI deepfake scams is what we have here. There are a lot of them. So, okay. So first of all, so first of all, I want to say that there's a lot of them, or there's a lot of celebrity deepfakes that are just horrible. Like for example,

non-consensually turning someone into a pornographic situation is like extremely gross and horrible. This happened to Taylor Swift recently, but it's also happened to other non-famous people and has been happening for a while. So I understand that people like the white house just commented on it due to the Taylor Swift thing. And a lot of people were like, well, you should have, I wish it didn't take the biggest celebrity in the world to comment on this but uh at least it's getting some kind of some acknowledgement yeah at least it's not the response is not uh it's the good leave it to the internet i don't know yeah it's it definitely i think should be it's it's essentially like revenge porn you know because you're taking something

that was not like basically it's like the person isn't consenting to these materials being made of them then the argument cannot be there there's no argument to be made on the part of the people that don't own the photos like every single time there's an alternative take it's people being like hey well you know actually i would be complimented and like it doesn't matter what you would like actually because it's not you in the photo in fact you can't do anything with my photo actually because it's like it's me so yeah don't do that um and so and you can regulate it so that's on the like the most evil deplorable like sick uh side of things um on the like maybe just evil and goofy side is celebrity ai scams which

are becoming worse and worse and better and better which is worse and worse for like humanity more convincing yeah because the deep fakes get better the easier it is for um drake to Drake to talk about how you've got a... He's got a bunch of iPhones and you've got a... Oh, wait, fuck, that's a real scam. Drake's got too much popcorn and he wants to give it to you so you can sign up for Drake's popcorn. DaBaby just sent me an email and whoever drinks the most ivermectin will get a Ferrari. Whoever buys, Tom Cruise just said,

whoever buys the most pheromone cologne from my TikTok shop gets to be in the next Mission Impossible movie. He gets to be the mission. He gets to be the mission. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is Dan. You got to sign up for this time share.

So we're going to look at some of the celebrity AI scams that are currently in circulation. We're going to see if we would fall for them. We're going to see if people we know would fall for them. We're going to buy them. We're going to buy each product. No. Well, business expense.

Well, let's see. Let's have an argument about it. Let's have a good old-fashioned argument about it. Well, I have evidence. Let's see if we'll... Let's have an argument about it. Let's have a good old-fashioned argument about it. Well, I have evidence. Okay. There's videos. Let's start with the earliest one I remember seeing, which was the Mr. Beast scam.

The reason I laugh when this came up, by the way, is just any time I just... A photo, a really low-res photo of Jimmy facing the camera is just very funny. It's like, whoa. Yeah. So it looks like Mr. Beast because it says Mr. Beast and has a checkmark, but that's actually embedded into the video, and they have a different account name.

And so depending on how you watch it, it looks really fucked up, but I'm sure it tricked somebody. If you're watching this video, you're one of the 10 000 lucky people who'll get an iphone 15 pro for just two dollars i'm mr beast and i'm doing the world's largest iphone 15 giveaway click the link below to claim yours now wow that is a really really bad mr beast deep fake voice i there's a there are a few phrases that sounded on point but when he said i'm mr beast it was very off he sounds sad yeah like there's a you're one of the 10 000 people the thing is it seems like it was trained on mr beast's normal talking voice which is not what you're used to

hearing you're used to being like today i'm gonna find the biggest hole and i'm gonna put the most explosions in it i did a handful of Mr. Beast videos from what I remember. They open like that and he doesn't usually then go, I'm Mr. Beast. Yeah, he doesn't go, I'm Mr. Beast. Yeah, Mr. Beast wouldn't announce himself like that. I'm Mr. Beast and I'm going to do what I said I was doing. I'm Mr. Beast and today I'm giving away iPhones for two. Why would Mr. Beast charge money for them at all?

But they're for cheap. For $2, you can have an iPhone. You can have an iPhone. I'm Mr. Beast. It feels like using Trump as that kind of avenue feels so much more effective because a lot of his base would fall for that. Yeah. Plus, I mean, sure, there's kids that you can trick, but kids, do they have...

It's so much harder for a kid to get their parents' credit card than it is for an adult with a credit card. I think I'm going to need some sort of... Maybe it's some sort of third party, or maybe it's on the part of the platforms themselves, or maybe it's the community that does this, but I need some sort of community note for all AI or tag. Because there's places where you have to report it, like Steam, or have to report it, right?

Like if it's undetectable, then how would they know? Yeah, the consequences just being that you might get delisted, but also they don't check. Yeah, how do you prove that you haven't said something? the way that like narratives online go sometimes the story correcting the original story is not usually going to get as much reach as the original story so i'm sure that there's going to be some small things that are edited that are wrong that kind of go below the radar oh yeah um oh well yeah because then it's uh once there is some kind of regulation or at least like moderation on a platform, where do you draw the line, right? It's like, well, hey, I post-processed my audio using AI

and it did make me sound a lot more like Jimmy. I'm sorry. Yeah, because then there's also like you take a mostly real video and then you change like one word. I feel like that's going to be much harder, right? I suppose it's just like you adjust to the impact. But also the platform has to be incentivized to do it. And frankly, I mean, China's more proactive about AI regulation in general.

So that could be a reason that TikTok gets more active. But like meta doesn't really have an incentive to make instagram less predatory with that yeah i mean i think that the leadership has to see it as like some sort of existential threat which i think they will but it needs to move fast though on the optimistic side the consumer the average consumer much like when i was a child and my like aunt would would google search and she'd click the sponsored post and i'd be like no no no that's an ad she's like well how do you tell and it's like you just kind of know the flavor yeah um yeah your eyes glaze past the yeah yeah i do think that people who are coming up now are not going to be fooled like or at least i don't think what am i saying i do think that people who are coming up now are not going to be fooled. Like, or at least I don't think, what am I saying?

I do think that people are becoming more privy to these sorts of things. Because obviously the thing about this is this is the worst that it's ever going to be. Is how it is right now. Because it's only going to improve. And it's already improved so quickly. So one could imagine that it becomes perfect or near perfect at some point and we have to prepare for that reality and the mission is also you know i mean i don't know about all of these but usually the mission with these setups is not well maybe we can trick you know

a couple hundred people into paying us the ten dollar for the iphone it's actually like maybe somebody will send something but they want want you to send your credit card information. It's not about the $10 or even just your address, just data, just information. Or these are celebrity like paint with a wide net. Paint with a wide net? Cast a wide net. Paint a big net. Paint with a big brush.

A big brush, wide net. Cast a brush. Cast a wide net paint a big net paint with a big brush a big brush wide net cast a brush cast a wide net and um there are going to be more individualized scams and there are those already exist with like deep faking the voices of loved ones and then claiming to like have someone hostage or shit like that hi sweetie i have 50 iphones available for ten dollars yeah but those are already not not the iphone ones but like actually like pretending, hey, you know, we've got someone you love, you need to send money to this Bitcoin address. And then maybe they've

combined that with doing some social engineering to get their like phone number, get their, like do a SIM swap thing or whatever where they have, it looks like it's coming from their right phone number and then they can't contact them because the bad actors have that phone. This is why I don't have any loved ones.

Yeah. And I chose that. Yep. Do you love me? That would actually mean a hell of a lot to hear. My mic must be off. You can't hear a word I'm saying. Oh, dude, r slash scams is going to be having a bump a couple of years. r slash scams is one of those a bump a couple of years r slash scams is something it's

one of those subreddits that uh shows up in your default feed and so sometimes i will or maybe i get recommended it i guess it's just popular to you but and maybe it's r slash scams or maybe it's is this a scam but it's i think it's r slash scams where people will ask hey is this a scam yeah yeah and a lot of the time it's like, okay, yeah. No, it's like because people are trying to figure out what's the catch, right? Often the catch, you know, it's like there's no, if it seems too good to be true, then it probably is. All right, what's this celebrity got to say? Whoever this is.

Venmo thing all over TikTok. Look at this. My son tried it the other day and it got put into his account same day. This could really benefit lots of people out there if you struggle. That is not what Shaq sounds like. It's supposed to know what his hands look like. Is that supposed to be his hands?

You couldn't hire a black guy to do this? Plus, dude, look, I don't know the specifics. We can check networth.com or whatever. I'm pretty sure Shaq has more than $750 in his Venmo if he uses it at all. Also, this isn't fucking Venmo.

Look at that. It's just got the logo for Venmo and then it's a different website with none of the same cult. They didn't even try. It's not even the Venmo app. Yeah, it's in like Safari. Yeah, because it can't be the Venmo app because then that would be venmo running the scam so they've got to make benmo or whatever and it's got to be ben shapiro's

money changing app for the not faint of woke what is he is he advertising venmo like it's jack in the oh yeah can we back up i i i totally forgot what he's actually talking about venmo thing all over tiktok my son tried it the other day and it got put into his account same day this could really benefit lots of people out there if you're struggling give it a try man have you seen shaq's son it's basically saying like if you get this app, it'll give you $750 on Venmo. But then the ad that it's advertising is my favorite planner. My healthy planner. Excuse me? My health.

My healthy planner. Yeah. What the hell? $750 to have a healthy planner. What the health? What the heck? What the frick? I feel like someone could do a better Shaq impression than that.

My son. I can't do a Shaq impression than that. My son. I can't do a Shaq impression. Hey, what's going on, everybody? It's me, Critical. Hey, guys, it's Critical. Found this new app. Going to the NBA. My son just got $750.

They need to find someone with a less, like, unique voice. Shaq has, like, one of the most unique voices in the world. Because it's unique, it should be easier to train, but it's, like like filled in with regular voice with a little bit of a shack tone and it doesn't have the right cadence but that won't always be the case also not everybody like has listened to shack talk i mean at this point a lot of people listen to shack talk but all right let's listen let's see this this is the newest scam there is there's jennifer aniston there is so much audio of Jennifer Aniston speaking with charisma presentation.

You can't get it wrong. Or can you? If you're watching this video, you're one of the 10,000 lucky people who will get MacBook Pro for just $10. Jennifer Aniston here. Mr. Beast here. What's going on?

Jennifer Aniston here. It's, you know what's funny is they it feels like it's trained on Jennifer Aniston giving a TED talk like why is she projecting so much

if you're watching this you're one of the 10 people who's gonna get a MacBook for just a nickel I'm Jennifer Aniston I'm Shaquille O'Neal.

The Mr. Beast one needed a little more of that. Yeah, yeah. We've got to mix these. He has plenty of pizzazz. Why can't they just... I'm Mr. Banniston. What's going on? What's going on?

I was in Friends. We're on a break. The other guy says that. Oh. It all means I love you in dinosaur. I'm going to glob you. Use promo code. To get $9 off.

Okur. Okur. And I'm doing the world's largest MacBook giveaway. Just go to my site below and claim yours now why is it doing that what the fuck this is like the modern equivalent of uh those chain emails where it'd be like bill gates decided to give one of his last billions to you. You're one of the lucky 10,000 people. And this is how he wants you to know. Yeah.

Hey, guys. It's Bill Gates. God. It's me. Hey, what's going on? What's going on? I'm Microsoft. I'm the computer.

The name's Steve Jobs from Microsoft. Here's a dollar. Why is... I'm a Jobs from Microsoft. Here's a dollar. Why is... I'm a prince. From Nigeria. What's up? Oh, true. If they did this exact video, but they trained it on like a Nigerian prince.

Hello. Good afternoon, everybody. I'm here to tell you about my MacBook. Okay. All right. What do I do? How do I sign up for more? Rachel, we were on a break.

We were not editing. But I love you. I'm Rachel, we were on a break. We were not dating. But I love you. I'm giving away Mr. Beast's MacBook. Welcome to a vid. I'm putting a bus in a hole. Will it go in the hole? Let's find out. It did.

I need to know, dude. Goodbye. That's wild. That's nollywood, dude. Why would... I know it... There's always this weird dilemma right where when you see a shitty scam you think well like but can't they do a better job like scamming and that's the thing one's doing a good job we don't it's like because the people who do a good job

are not the people scamming because right now it's not so accessible yeah that like anybody even has the resources to like generate their own stuff at a high quality because you do need some computing resources if you're going to do a custom job i i would i think we're probably on the same bridge i the one i really hate i think of these is the the shack one because that's so predatory oh yeah because the rest of these these are like you know it's not that like privilege is only for the privileged but like the new iphone laptop cool understand why they're desirable but it's not like a uh you're like kind of for the most part preying on uh hey we got this little treat for you want a slice of cake right whereas the shack

free 750 even references like yeah my son was not doing well this could help a lot of people but i mean even the iphone and the macbook giveaway it's like those are things you could sell if you were like on hard times so it's like you want a free thing and so i just feel like that as they get more advanced it's just going to be like oh hey now we're doing um you know if you want an advance on your paycheck or whatever then it's like and then you start to get into payday loan shit but it's also a scam no that's a really i guess i hadn't thought about that where like it's because this is this is kind of like a wacky double whammy of an obviously fake product with an obviously fake like it's just it's uh too much sauce like i could do a better job you know it's just, it's too much sauce.

Like I could do a better job. You know, it's like if I was the scammer, I would do a better job because I know that it doesn't look convincing. But I think if we took, if we reduced the amount of visuals, right? Just a quick shot of a celebrity, maybe even take Mr. Beast

because say that's our demo for this, right? We're trying to shoot for Mr. Beast demographic, get a quick clip of Jimmy. Maybe don't do it so close up. And also don't make them yell like a TED Talk. Also, it doesn't need to be a pure straight-to-camera thing. It could be shot like a commercial. It could reuse visuals from existing commercials

so that you get some real Jennifer Aniston interstitched with fake Jennifer Aniston so that it's harder to like, you have less time to detect. I'm sure there's B-roll you can just get of other sponsorships like they've done where, you know, it's Jennifer Aniston doing an ad for Wells Fargo or something. And so there's a clip of her looking at her phone being like, I love her. It feels like this was generated using like 30 second Jennifer Aniston voice. And like you show us 30 seconds of Jennifer Aniston talking and she's like hey guys welcome to Aniston con she talks like a prank channel yeah what's going on

guys I'm gonna put a buzz in a hole Jennifer Aniston here hello everyone how many friends fit in a hole could I be anymore putting something in a hole this is a chandler mr beast nigerian uh doing a whole putting a person all i'm 100 retention how are you 110 retention i'm backing up i'm watching parts i'm watching my favorite part hot point yeah it's a spike on like Jarvis backed this up a hundred times. It is me, Joey. I'm so horny. How are you doing? That's his character, right? How are you doing?

You try to have a conversation with him. It's like FaceTime. That would be a really cool one to do. Hey, guys, it's me. Hey, guys, it's me, The Rock. Hey, what's going on, guys? What's going on, guys? It's me, The Rock. I'm over here working out and? What's going on guys? It's me, The Rock.

I'm over here working out and doing The Rock stuff. He already makes videos. I know, it's the same shit. So like you don't even need to like do that much extra stuff. What's going on guys? Going to the In-N-Out for the first time. Gotta say, wow. I want to talk to you guys about my, oh, you know what?

Joe Rogan has one of these. And the Joe Rogan one is a little bit more believable because he does talk about those products. That makes sense. Yeah. But I'm thinking like if you did, yeah, like you're saying a little bit more of a competent edit, hid a little more of the seams, but then you made the,

if it is for an actual just kind of predatory company and they very like subtly disclose in accordance with whatever the current rules are, be like, hashtag parody or something. Like, it's a joke. Like, of course, Trump wouldn't actually do an ad for us. But anyway, we're a cars for gold service. You can trade in all of your hubcaps, and we'll send you a gold tooth. And you can trade that in for a day or like mkbhd gets these where people because he reviews tech products people with like shitty drop ship things will like do a little mr mr mr mkbhd um i'm mkbhd

i'm marquez hey guys i'm marquez i want to see how many macbooks can fit in this hole you're one of the lucky people that can see the hole. So I think that those are like, they're so targeted. But the thing is, it's like the average Marquez fan is probably not going to fall for one of these scams. But then there are still those people, just scammers are everywhere. You know, people are hurting. People are turning to, you know, scamming their fellow person. And that's always going to be a thing but we need to equip the um we need to equip our most vulnerable with the knowledge and

sort of skill set to identify these things you know like um kit boga the guy who does all the scam stuff like some of the it's so interesting hearing the scripts that the scammers use and they're like ready to like rob an older lady of you know all of her retirement yeah and it's like i mean i get that there's inequality but like this person wasn't doing anything bad and they're like it just feels wrong like scamming someone always is gonna feel wrong it's weird uh his stuff is especially strange because yeah like his skill is getting them to stay on the line and engage for such a long amount of time them off by beating around the bush there's like a i've watched like some of the longer ones like maybe

like a 40 minute one yeah semi-edited but it runs for like three hours on stream yeah i'm like wow this is they're starting to get stockholm syndrome and i'm realizing that they are human and i it's they're technically being scammed which is fine i have no ethical issues but i'm like oh man now that i'm realizing you are a person the thing you were going to do feels even worse right where it's uh the there's like super cut or i've seen like shorts of like people yelling at him yeah because uh you know um he was going to send them over like a gift card for like a thousand dollars and then he accidentally cashed it into it accidentally cashed it into his account. Don't do that! Don't do that! No!

Wait, can you, Jacob, can you type in Kit Boga freakout? Because there's some that are, like he's, he's essentially an improviser who, and I feel, I've actually exchanged some kind DMs with Kit Boga. They've said that they're a fan and stuff. I would go on YouTube and search for shorts. But that's probably the one, that top one is a good place to start oh yeah but uh they're essentially an improviser who uses a voice changer to pretend to be one of the vulnerable people that these

scammers oftentimes they're like in india at like a like a call center type job where the person working the job is just doing their job and they just need work to make ends meet but the problem is the business is like scamming people pretending to be like windows support and like scamming like an old woman out of like her retirement or something like that and that's like bad i don't i don't feel like i have to say it's bad but i do understand the like conditions that someone has to be in in order for that to happen so like none of it feels good but this is kind of funny so i'm like i don't know i think that honestly the only times i've not been super comfortable with with some of these i don't watch them very consistently um but a friend of mine was really into them, introduced me like a year ago and saw what I'm watching.

Great content, seems like a lovely guy. I, like, he stood on the phone with me for ages and it was all a ploy. That's fun. Like, because it is just, hey, I wasted your time, but it kind of kept you away from somebody that might have had a greater consequence. Right, also, yeah, it's like I think that they're they're like i actually have no problem with their time being wasted well the thing is like if if the scamming business isn't working then people are going to lose their jobs and it's like well should this job exist to begin with and are they being paid without the incentive pay anyway like are they actually receiving that's you know we can never know the right answer so it's kind of moot

but the only ones where i do feel a little uncomfortable are where there's some kind of kind of um you know uh after school special chat to the guy there's like one where the guy's crying and he's like man i hope my i don't want my son to grow up to be like me and i'm like look oh i've never seen that the there are there have to be material conditions playing into that yeah i don't know if from a privileged relatively privileged vantage point where it's laughing at again no is she laughing at just is laughing at yeah i don't know if it's all that tasteful to at the end be like and what you did was evil and right right because we can just indulge in the prank people aren't doing it because they're most of the people working these jobs i think maybe the people who are creating the company sure because their labor is also being exploited you know what i mean like but the actual like workers who are doing this stuff are just

work like work essentially working a call center job. It just so happens that that is a scam. And it's tough. I actually don't know morally or ethically where I land on this. But the content, especially when it's like the person's yelling and they're being very mean. This person could have done this to a real person and it would have been worse. Oh, yeah. So it's like I feel better that, you know,

their time got wasted. Cause I don't think that, yeah, so it's tricky, but I think this one's funny. Okay, let's watch this. I think, I think I've seen this one. Been on the phone with the scammer for over 10 hours and he thinks he's about to get money, but everything is about to be ruined.

Ma'am, listen to me, please. Okay, so I don't know if you see it, but I think on the back of the card, it was just saying that you can get cash out of it on the Google Store. So I went to the Google Store. Whoa, wait. Ma'am, no. No, no, no, no, no.

No. No. No. You don't have to do that. Ma'am, you don't have to do that. You don't have to do that! Ma'am, you don't have to do that! You don't have to do that! Why did you redeem it? You did not have to redeem this!

You did not have to redeem this, ma'am! You did not have to redeem this! Why did you do it? Why did you do it? Ma'am, you need to listen! You need to listen to me! You are ending my life! You are ending my life!

Why did you do this? Why did you do this? I'm trying to give you the money. I thought I was giving it to you. I'm really, really crying right now. Aw. Okay, that was kind of sad. Oh, crying. That's the thing.

It's like I feel so conflicted about it. You know what I mean? You guys know this is like the, you know that movie Beekeeper that's out right now? By reputation. It's a Jason Statham action film. This is like the plot of Beekeeper. Oh, that's right. Yeah, it's call center stuff.

Yeah. Or like scam, whatever. Like an old lady, this retired assassin who is a beekeeper on an old lady's farm the old lady gets scammed and loses everything by a telephone scam or like a internet scammer and he goes out for revenge that's actually kind of funny it's like john wick but it's it's a scam instead of a dog an old lady it's so there's so much in it where you're like oh this is definitely made for a certain age group because a lot of it is like evil scammers scamming old ladies and my daughter doesn't visit enough it's uh giza teaser that's the name for it giza teaser nobody with bob on the coat g giza all the john wicks to some extent

death wish back in the day the oh all the taken movies all the liam neeson hardcore but i actually really liked beekeeper i thought it was very fun and funny the only two things i know about it are that um he is literally a beekeeper yes but the beekeeper name is just an organization he was involved with and trained by he just coincidentally also now does beekeeping yeah it's very funny and then the other element is that at some point in the movie because they have to acknowledge that jason statham sounds like jay from statham someone's like i i hear a hint of british is that accurate, it's not a hint. He's like, yeah, I went to school there for a bit, didn't I? Texas born and bred.

There's a lot of stuff like that that's very funny in it. You're like, I don't know why this is here. It doesn't make sense to the plot, but I'm loving every minute of it. But it is weird how they portrayed the scammers because they're just these rich like mostly white young men in a room who are wearing silk shirts and watching porn oh they're the wolf of wall street scammers got another oldie that that it's like easier to it's like when um in the new Mission Impossible, they're like, the enemy has nuclear weapons. Look out, Top Gun. There's the guys. The guys are evil and they don't like what we're about.

But they could be. And wherever they're from is good or bad or whatever you. Yeah. I won't say where they're from, but it's bad. And you're not on their side. I forget which Mission Impossible it is, but there is the. Oh, Top Gun. Did I say Mission Impossible it is, but there is the... Oh, Top Gun. Did I say Mission Impossible?

Top Gun Madness is what I meant to say. It is both as well, because Tom Cruise has such big international appeal, right? There is, I want to say, Ghost... Whatever. Protocol. Ghost Protocol. The one between Fallout and... You're out of here, Ethan. Whatever that one's called.

They're all that. You can't be doing this no more Ethan you're disbarred from doing spies or whatever I gotta go rogue again there's one where the enemy is just called like the syndicate or something and there's literally a line in it where they're like yeah they attack for no

reason they have no ideology and don't belong to any one nation they just are they're just mean. They're mean to me. But also, I feel like that there's a documentary on HBO called Telemarketers. And it's about the early 2000s telemarketing scams. But it's so interesting because a lot of the people who

worked at this like telemarketing scam office they were like people who couldn't get jobs and this in the United States it's like yeah I was an ex-con I couldn't get a job anywhere else it was the only place I could make enough money to pay for my apartment and alimony and like you know whatever it was like yeah we kind of need stuff like this it's like mitigating damage right like it's the occasional sacrificial lamb of a of a grandma losing a retirement but it's like why can't we do both i know well it's it's also like you know working in a i don't know, fracking. I'm not going to blame the people that work in the construction and maintenance industry side of fracking. It's like, I'm sure that they aren't into drilling.

There's also a very old episode of the podcast Reply All where where they like investigated telephone scammer and over three years, like go to India and like meet the guy. And like. One specific guy. One specific guy. Cause he like calls him and then he eventually like, basically just keeps picking up the phone

and keeps calling him back. And it's like a whole like long podcast series. I know they, I don't remember which of the Reply All guys. And I don't remember which one was involved with the like union busty stuff around. Yeah., but the output, people worked hard on the output of it, and it's still an interesting ethical dilemma because you know that these – I don't necessarily believe that there are that many evil people that just want to be evil and that's the way of least resistance could be a path that is you know morally questionable and not everybody has the privilege of standing on their morals in every decision that they and like partake in like yeah ease and apathy is what most people want that's a very reasonable

desire and if it if there was like an equally kind of i don't know tedious job but with no ethical qualms they'd take that if it was the same thing there's no part of them right that's the thing it's like it's not like this is i feel like the easy thing is just get a different job and it's like i'm sure that the people in these situations are not going ah i'll be a tell a telephone scam sure just like the people um i mean uh there's been kind of like a way i don't know where it's at now but i i'm sorry sorry a couple years ago about how there's just been this weird cyclical uh uh backlash with phone support lines that are international where they are obviously they originate from the fact that

it's a lot cheaper to run um internationally and you're not accounting for things like health insurance and benefits and domestic care but then american audiences start to just develop a very particular kind of racism and so they have anybody in say the in this example case, Indian call center, if everybody used Anglo-coded names. And then people started getting pissed off about that, being like, your name is not Joseph. I know that. You can't trick me.

And it's like, well, first of all, the reason that they're going by Joseph is because you do this. That's like why they had to do that. And then they started shifting back into like, well, where can we build call centers where we can hire people the more, their quote, you know, convincingly sound white, I guess. And then that's just was significantly more expensive and bothered people in a different way because they provided less service because they hired fewer people. So then they went back to the Indian call centers and they just like, I don't know. I feel like they're using AI now a lot for this sort of stuff.

Like with just like, just chat us and you're like, I'm not talking to a real person. Yeah. Just chat us is for sure. Most of the time. Package didn't arrive. You're,

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