Sad Boyz - The Fake Song Scandal (Rubberz)

Episode Date: August 7, 2026

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Welcome to Sadboys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. I'm Jordan. Before we started recording something funny was brought up that we haven't recorded in, did you say nine days, Jacob? 10 days. 10 days. Because we had Tom, Friday.

Yeah, last week. We did a little rub-a-dub double. And for some reason, like if we didn't see each other for three days, I feel like we'd all be like, I have 100 stories to tell you. And we did also see, some of us have seen each other. Like, I saw peeps last night. We all went to the Square Enix Cafe together. On Sunday.

But we're not in character. We're not in more. We're not in more. We have to talk about completely different topics. For those who don't know, Square Enix Cafe is the, like, themed cafe for the Final Fantasy Dragon Quest near, like, universes. Yeah. And let me tell you, if you're hungry, it is the place to not go.

The food wasn't great. But I loved it. I will say I got, I bought so much stuff. I bought some plushies. They're upstairs, but I bought a Tomberry plushy. I, um, they gave us a lot of coasters. I got a little slime. Um, and, uh, did you get the king slime?

No. That's the one I want. I would never get that. I'm, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm the proletarian. Yeah, humble salt of the earth. Yeah. To even entertain the idea of getting the king slime would require a level of arrogance. In fact, but, in fact, but, in fact,

Before I ate my metallic slime curry, I put a little crown on it so that I was eating the rich. That's good. I'm glad. No, but it was, Jarvis bought us all little blind boxes. And I was like, oh, God, I hope I get Sepharoth. I got Sephiroth. I got Red 13. I got wonderful Tifa.

I feel like that is kind of perfect. Yeah, we got perfect ones. Yeah, she would choose me. You're right. It's not a competition. And yet I won. Okay. Feels good.

to be the victor? So I wrote some stuff down because I woke up this morning at 6 a.m. from a dream state. And I do like... Eyes rolling kind of. Yeah, I do kind of like when I'm... I keep having these thoughts as I'm waking up from a dream. And I was like, why don't I just write them down?

Because I've done this, I think, once before. There's even more text than I thought. You were inceptioning. I said, woke up from a dream and I wrote down that someone didn't like promoting their AI around electronically non-monogamous group. chat. That's something. The pieces of that. Yeah, electronically non-monogamous.

I'm with you. I don't know. With my AI. And then I wrote down that the names of the AI were Astrid, Q-Tip, and Barnacle. This is like for Enzy's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I said... They're in your Discord. I was like, Q-Tip does kind of sound like a name for an AI. That's a rapper.

Well, yeah, but it's also a thing you... Put in your ear. Well, you're not supposed to put it in your ear. Unless you're me and you have a very special picnic. I also wrote down and this is, I guess I'm doing word association based on the concept of like someone dating their AI

because I was thinking about in my dream I guess I was thinking about that like my boyfriend is AI subreddit. Oh yeah. And then I and this is going to be for no one. So I'm going to have to explain it as soon as I say it. Words of affirmation, but it's a word in the technical sense and a word in a computer is like a unit of data

like a processor processes. So like a processor might have a word that's like four bytes long. Your love language with your AI is technically. Words of affirmation because you're sending them bits and bytes. See, you need to go to like a tech conference. It would kill. And tell that joke. Actually, I'd have to, well, I think that there's too many non-technical people in tech now

because they just vibe code everything. Yeah. So I have to go to like a computer science class. I think you honestly just have to promote it on a podcast. Wait, Jervis, would you ever teach at a community college or? something? Maybe. I used to think I wanted. I think I would be a good teacher. Well, because I did. You've taught us like about magic and stuff. But I also was a TA. And so I did. I used to teach like recitation and stuff. Me and, uh, I was a TA, but I hated it. I loved it. Uh, just because it was,

but I, I, I do love teaching. I love to teach and I love to learn. Okay, the last few things I wrote, is Zephyr Hills a water? Because I thought it could be a beautiful name for a neighborhood or a rapper. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. A rap group. Zepha Hills. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, is that in the randomly generated? What did I get? I got like slick Willie Bigg-Begie in the returne? I don't think so. I think it was lazy-assed lover.

No. It was the swag. Oh my God. Okay. So then the worst part of my dream that kind of felt like a nightmare is that I was in, I was like inside of a true crime type show or movie or universe where I'm trying to understand really what was happening. It was like, as the subject of?

So what happened was that me and a group of. other victims were like victims of some incident. It was a horrible experiment gone wrong, but the powers that B wanted to make it seem like an accident like we were in a car crash or something like that. I see. You were in some horrible like a CIA experiment. To find out your special technique for cleaning areas. And then I zoomed out, you know how that happens in dreams.

And I was like on the couch like watching a show. And it was a true crime show called nasty plots. Nasty. Nasty plot is a Pokemon move. your special attack by two stages. And I realized that after writing all of this down. Nasty plot is the latest single from Zephyr Hill. I think,

oh my God. I kind of believe that thing where people say like dreams are just your brain like defragmenting information. Yeah, working through the nonsense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And because it feels like it's just like a bunch of random stuff that's been on the mind lately. I think dreams, the equivalent of like a Q-tip for dreaming is like melatonin, where it'll make it happen really, really hard.

but it's probably bad for you long time. Well, I was as a Disney kid, I learned that a dream is a wish your heart makes when you fall asleep. So whenever Echo and I are playing a video game together, she will wake up and text me. I had a dream that we need to solve this puzzle by doing this, and usually it's accurate.

Like, she solves puzzles in her dreams. I have a friend that we played Super Smash Brothers brawl the story mode. every time I went to their house Subspace emissary In high school we played every time and we kept doing harder difficulties But the first time we played through We were on this level

That had this little elevator puzzle And we could not fucking figure it out We could not get it And then eventually 30 minutes later We finally did And I was like oh my god How'd you figure that out? And they were like what?

And I was like Sorry I felt like they were sitting next to me They fell asleep while playing but they like were like kind of they like sleepwalks the solution like conscious a little bit and they like figured it out like in their sleep and then they were just like I don't remember there's something to that yeah because when um like when I was like doing the tech job and stuff a lot of um technical problems are like puzzles so I would like wake up with like knowing how to solve a problem on my homework or knowing how to solve a problem like at my job they do say if you're really struggling with

something like you have riders block or you're trying to solve a problem. Yeah, there's like a ghost in your house or something. Yeah, it's forcing yourself to focus on it actually doesn't necessarily help. But if you go for a walk, take a shower, go to sleep. There is like your brain just. Different medium, but like coming up with a melody while you're walking around not doing anything on your phone is like a 2% difficulty level, trying to come up with it. on the laptop in your software is a 95.

It's like just not even close. I will drive and be like, fuck, I wish I could write this down. I cannot. This is so easy right now. And that's why so many musicians have like voice notes. Yeah. I just am so embarrassed by the notion of everybody going,

la la la la. I got to get past that. Keith Richards wrote satisfaction in his sleep. No, he didn't. He woke up and recorded it. I swear to God, it's true. I simply don't believe that. I believe it.

I don't believe interesting stories about musicians who were just otherwise kind of normal? He said he had a recorder right next to his bed. No, he would do this all the time. And he woke up and went, on his guitar. To be honest, that's not that crazy of a thing to come up with. I just don't believe it.

It's like he spends his entire life doing music. You don't believe he would ever dream about it. Couldn't do. We need that impossible, dude. He dreams about podcasting. All right, we're to next. There's so many things. Question for the community.

I recently came into a piece of ill fortune and no longer have a duvet. Oh, yeah. And as a result, I mean... You peed the bed and you tried to blame it on a dog. Well, I mean, it was... I don't even know if I peed the bed. It's more pissed than bad at this point. But the bed was blissfully saved by the...

The Secret Service body... Hatching the bullet. Oh, yeah, yeah. My duvet dove in front of the best. And as a result, I've been rocking the single bed sheet with like a blanket over for a little bit of additional weight. I cannot sleep under anything but crushing pressure. Me too. And it's so hot.

And that's why I keep it so frigid. But, okay, wait. So one thing I need to say about sleep is that it's important and you should get it every night. Oh, this is good. Um, but the other is, is because like, it allows you to like, like, commit things to like long-term memory and stuff and learn. If you have brain fog, it might be because you're not getting enough. True. Um, but about my sleep, I have been sleeping under a weighted blanket recently, but I have a problem.

And my problem is that, you know, that soft, um, weighted blanket that we had that one time, from a brand and no free clout. So I have basically one of those now in my room that's slightly bigger and I sleep under it and I'm so comfortable when I'm sleeping. But because of the weight, it's in and also the smoothness of it, it slides off of me every single night. It's very slick. It's oily, oily to the touch in a nice way, I suppose.

I like it. But the weighted blanket I have is like the big knots, you know, almost like a chunky version of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the, that does not feel conducive to sleep as much as like comfy, comfy seating. But sometimes, you know, I'm fighting demons. I'm shadowboxing in my sleep. And all of a sudden I find myself entangled in anything that is not chunky and heavy.

Like I wake up with like a, at this point, my blankets are like tendrilling through under my knee. You've created a beautiful berate. I'm a Mobius. I'm like looping it. I'm like a giant weighted blanket, if you were. And I just don't understand how people rock the single sheet. the single thin sheet. I've come into a stage in my life

because I have a duvet as well, but it's not as, I got some new beding because I got a new bed and or a new mat. Oh, actually a new bed, yeah,

uh, in all the ways. But it is like my new duvet, my new vei is, it's not as like thick and like comforting as my old one. My old one had like a heft to it that I felt like was sufficient. to like hold me in. Medium armor.

And the new one feels like an elevated sheet. Like it's not a sheet, but it's thinner than I want it to be. It's like a professional sheet. Yeah, it's a sheet with a suit on. You know what I mean? Which is kind of a definition of a duvet. Oh my. Jordan, how would you define co-worker music?

I don't know. Anything from like Alt J through to, I think Imagine Dragons is operating. a slightly different realm. Trying to think what's like... It is that thing where it's like, oh, I didn't know people like really mess with this band like that. I'm like, oh, this is why this has

89 million streams a month. It's because this is in everyone around me's rotation. Right. It's like you find someone who watches Young Sheldon. It's a co-worker. That's a co-worker show. That's right.

It's huge. Or Blue Blood. Like, I've never met a person in my life that watches Blue Bloods, but it's the most popular show in the world. I can't really name specifics in music other than like, I guess, imagine you drive.

Dragons crosses the mind. But I like that imagine, I've been listening to that Imagine Dragon song with, with Jid, because it's the arcane, because I listen to, in my morning routine is like, recently is I play some Pokemon champions and then I zone out and I'm taking my little notes where I'm studying my Pokemon games and stuff. And Zen state. I don't like the Imagine Dragons part of the song that much. But I, it's become a part of me. You know what I mean?

You've been imagining dragons say. Yeah, I've been imagining. Yeah, I wrote that down in my dream journal. Oh, yeah. Wings! So the reason I ask you this is because something came across my feed and I hope you haven't seen it because I sent it to Jacob

last night and said, we have to show Jordan this. And then Jacob's response was, holy shit, I watched it twice. We should do a sense. segment on co-worker music. Okay. I do think there is, I think what you're describing, Jordan, is one

of two branches of co-worker music. Interesting. The first one being, like, super, super popular music that's just kind of like, I didn't realize so many people listen to this. Right. But then also, the second one is super obscure music

that could be kind of, like, weird, indie musicians, TikTok musicians. Yes. I felt like I was the coworker, when I was like trying to show people like Jonathan Colton. Oh, I'm with you. You know what I mean? Yes.

But, but, uh, it's not something that it's almost, it's a cousin game. It's a game that only cousins have on their ass. Um, but this one is, is kind of a mishmash. I like to cuss like I was raised in a barn.

Fuck shit piss cocked. He's a darn. Oh man. I went to school with so many of this guy. That's what I mean. It's like, I know this. I,

I told Jacob, I was like, This is a capital G guy. This is, we all know. This genuinely was age like 14 to 17 for me. It was me and this, these guys. I was part of that community lopping the whole time. Yeah.

Camo hat, huh? Oh, I didn't even notice. It's funny that you clock that. Well, it's hard to see. Yeah. Because it's invisible to me. I didn't even know he was wearing a hat. No gauge, though.

Just to stud. Just a stud. Start a gauge, maybe? But yeah, that's the thing. It's like I feel like that's okay. Maybe we're out of date. Yeah, I'm down. But the Black Stud even, it says something.

I think it's a starter gauge. Starter gauge? I think it's like an eight or something, like a tiny gauge. An eight, you say? Yeah. Bigger than number or 16. Bigger than number, tiny or the... A Nicholas gauge.

A double zero is really big. On the back of it is a map of the Declaration of Independence. Oh, turn around. Um, I believe what you sent me, with this on it was a comment that said something like this is why we need to cuss in front of our children or something. Oh yeah, it was Giancarlo Seresi, I think, if I'm saying his name right, the comedian, the stand-up who like said this is why you need to curse in front of your children

because it is not subversive to simply use bad words. Yes. But you feel like it is when you're raised in that environment. And I was like, wow, this is a, I think accurate observation. because when you're in like middle school or something, saying a curse word is like, oh my gosh. Yeah, that's, but you have to get that out of your system. You have to, it's not counterculture to swear at a certain point or cuss, apologies.

This guy would play like Nicola Tesla on an epic rap battle or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Or Curtis Carter. I will say, I will say someone said, this is what Hamilton sounds like to me. And I understand that person. I understand the person that has that take. I'm not that, I'm not that guy.

I'm not that guy, pal, but but I get it. I respectfully disagree, but they're entitled to their opinion. Do you remember that guy who did the, he was, shake something. He did a track applying for SNL. Yes. The next SNL cast member.

Yes. But then he also did a school shooting one. Oh, called Bad Gun. Oh. And it is very, it's achingly 2011, but made it like 2020. and it is him just going like, not the land of the brave,

land of the guns and kids in the grave. And you're like, what the effect? That's crazy. It's an actual line. I want to watch more of this because Jacob made a connection and an insight that I want to share because I was brought to my knees when he said this. I'm harmless.

I wouldn't hurt a fly, but you fuck with my friends and you're gonna fucking do. Yes, sir. Ooh, we should get the verge. Wait, well, what's the, What's the this this part made me laugh. Wait, can you back up a little bit? And then what happens when the merch comes up?

It's like, I fucking love that. It sounds like a parody. It's the, uh, just old version of how Jake Paul would promote his merch. I think I love that shit. Um. Team 10. So Jacob said to me, wait, this is the same guy that did give me fucking cheeseburger.

Yes. And I was like, I don't know what that is. I said, I don't know what that is, but I'm excited to found out. but of course he made something called that. Yeah, it's like a promotion for a place that has bastard sauce. Oh my God, dude. It went viral because a lot of people were using the audio. Right.

And we can watch a couple of those after it because it was like celebrities we're doing it. Viral in the sense of like chlamydia is viral kind of thing. That's a good open. Just as a refresher, I like to swear. It is like it is a place that has bastard. It's like it reminds me of that restaurant. not in Vegas where they're like mean to you. Dick's last resort.

I don't even know what it is. But I'm like, okay. Dick's sporting goods. Like, this doesn't do it for me. Yeah, I'm like, I want to eat, please. Oh my God. I don't think I would be like personally wounded by anything going there. But the anxiety of someone walking up and asking if they want to top, if they top up the

water is already like pulls me out of the situation thing. Someone comes up and is like, yeah, your belt doesn't match your shoes. It just doesn't, it doesn't do anything for me. Like, I'm sure it's like, it's funny to some people. but I just not for me. Okay, I do not know what the son is. I do want to start again with the fuck. I hate making music.

Whoa, whoa, wait, pause, pause, pause. Sorry, in this frame, he looks like Morgan Spurlock. Yeah, he looks like, oh my God. And he's about burgers. Yeah, yeah, literally, literally supersized me is Morgan Spurlock. It's like sober Morgan Spurlock. It's like sober. Canceled, but deceased now, so.

Uncanceled? When you die the answer. When you die, it's thrown out like a court case. Posture was cool. Get in my mouth right now. If you don't, there's going to be murder. Give me fucking cheeseburger. No, no, no, no, no.

You know what's funny? Okay, hold on. He's so good at capturing that moment and it's too real. Okay, so there's a thought where I'm like, this could just be a character and they're doing an incredible job. He's exceptionally good at it, which is, I feel like a, established cottage industry at this point is people doing Raur I Love You and Dinosaur speak on purpose to make people uncomfortable. But personally, I think that's cultural appropriation.

I think we does it. We, that was ours. My culture is not your prom dress. But he is really good like at being that. That. Yeah. And so I almost want to like commend him. It feels engineered.

Like when Jacob said give me, I'm like no shot. He made something called give me fucking cheeseburger. I said that that was like a, it sounds like. What did I say? Well, every single line in front of that was so Cringy and... Yeah, like how now brown cow?

Yeah. It's like it feels like a Mac lethal parody. Oh, yes, it's exactly like it's... Buns, but not what you're thinking. Yeah, it's like, oh. And then also just throwing in swears because it's interesting. Epic rap battles of a down. There we go.

I said it's like finding a fossilized Reddit user. Straight out of the ice. But I do. Are we doing a carveneat. No, it's like literally give me fucking cheeseburger. I can't have cheeseburger. They're the same picture. It's the whole like co-worker element I'm now realizing is much more.

Who's that guy who it's Tom McDonald's core, but it's a little bit less proactively political. He's the guy that did like, I'm joining the Joker. Oh, I don't remember that person. You're insane. You're in pain. I can tell by what you're saying. Yeah.

The, the, the, the, the, where he did the rap challenge. Yeah. And he's going to like, whoa. Someone go like, I'm so crazy. You are lazy. Dax. Dax. Dax is co-worker music.

Um. I was doing co-worker music, I was internalizing inside of my brain. It's like, oh, as like, in your AirPods while you're working. But actually, this is in the car on the way home. It's or at home, look at this kind of music. Googling is kill Carl for real. Does he kill for real? Another one, another example that is frequently cited.

I already like his style. Didn't he kill all those women? I'm thinking you've dragged the Ripper. No, that's him. Oh shit. We should arrest him. I guess the statute of limitations on that is probably fast. Can I just say that there is a Reddit post that is this long about a theory that he's a satirist?

And then people are like, I ain't reading that. What could the info be other than? And like, it seems like he's kidding. Advanced enough technology is indistinguishable from magic type shit. Like, he is doing exactly what we were doing. It is the same in a vertical format. Is that parody? So I'm saying that, like, someone acting in a movie is doing a parody.

No, just playing the character. It's an Odysseus parody. Yeah. No, it's just an okay movie. There's another guy. Wait, do we want to watch Jack the Ripper first? Ripper? Oh, he has a knife.

Wait, am I mispronouncing his name? I don't want to... Jack the ripper. But it's duh? Or the? It's like, it's the as in fuck the police, not fuck the police, which is often, people often say duh, and that's like a misappropriation of A-B. It's fuck the police.

Screw these police. Living in a society where people sit behind their screens and they talk shit. Yeah. Well, what if I was Jack Dall. Well. I think this guy's 100% sincere. It's a, certainly the characters obviously, you know, steampunk. I will say.

But this is a, there's so many of this guy. And it's guys who the, from the beginning, the first song to the last, every single track is about people being rude to him online only. And then any other track is about how good his vocabulary is. It's my two least favorite kind of, kind of rap. There's something. Did he diss? Pretty easy disc dog it. This guy, Jack.

The RIPA. The Ripper. If he just did that in his friend group. And I, I, and be, and was like, you know, at parties, like having a good time, whatever. And people enjoyed it. I'd be like, that's fine. But putting it on the internet feels like what's cringy to me. Interesting.

I mean, only by virtue that we're into this, great, is kind of what I'm saying. If you're into this, good for you. I'm glad you found your people. Yeah, that's true. But that being said, why did you put it online? Or more so, why are you arguing? Well, so that you can find your community.

You can find your people. Yeah, maybe that is. I think that's like, it makes total sense that he publish it, but it is more like, were you not expecting people to be root to you online after this was oh yeah like the stomp clap like music guy yeah you have like right as soon as you go on here were you expecting people to be like wow that's so fucking cool exclusively you know jake novac buddy i want to be the next s&l cast member this reminds me of rosal con the um the woman that made music that was extremely corny and bad but then her and her boyfriend

were jailed for perpetuating a billion dollar crypto heist. I made a video about him a long time ago and then they went to mega jail. That's awesome. Not they went to jail. They should have been a lot of cheap on. Can you look up, um, uh, I think it's called like Versace Bedouin. Because I think you need a, you should have a license to publish me like this, like this was not ironic.

This was sincere. What's on her hat? The crocodile of water. Zero fucks. Oh, zero. I genuinely thought it said eight fucks. I'm like, okay. It's a lot.

I've got pilot blood I'm a real risk taker Pirate riding the flood badass money maker This is a It's you know miles for sure The story of this woman and her husband Is very funny because

The deeper down the rabbit hole you go They essentially give a way That they're responsible for like doing a fishing scam Like there's like a line in one of their songs Where she's like And remember like don't click on Suspicious Links an email.

I remember I shot him on September 4th, and then I got in my car. She might be out now, but I can't remember. I mean, that is, how now brown cow? That is the biggest fanny pack I've ever seen in my life. Is that what she kept all the crypto money? Yeah. Rosal Khan's actually out. Her husband is still in jail for the Bitfinex heist.

He went a little harder on it? Yeah, because he was like the technical one. But the, I think she was. It was released due to some sort of Trump law and she like thanked Papa Trump in her release. But then the White House was like it wasn't us, which is kind of funny. They'd never say that. Wasn't she being a faux revolutionary in that video? Wasn't that a thing?

Like, Wall Street's bad and I don't like money. No, no, no, no, no. She's actually saying I'm, I'm pro Wall Street. I'm part of the elite. I'm part of the elite, but I'm like a kooky, like, subversive because I wear like Cheetah Print. She's cash revolutionary. Yeah, it's, she's money goth.

There is a really. good. I love, I don't, okay, true, I watch the true crime documentaries that are like, I'm going to stab you or whatever, but then, but I, oh no, I stab me, mate. Yeah, but then the ones I love are the ones about white collar cron. And there's a really good one about her and her husband. And it's got like the guy who edited that Versace Bedewin video is in there. I just watched this movie, The Insider. Have you seen it? It's Michael Mann stars Russell Crow. You would love it, Jarvis, because it's essentially a thriller about white-collar crime.

We need to be making more of these kinds of movies. You might really enjoy the show White Color. Yeah, I was going to say. With that guy. With that guy. That guy? Bomber? Matthew Bomber.

Yeah. Is that White Color guy? Is that the one? Yeah, he went to Carnegie Mellon. He's like a, he's just like, he's like the number one PSL guy, right? Oh, true. Him and, like, not that he says. that it's good.

Even the one from Lost, I mean, yeah. Yeah, white color. He's a white color guy. What's the one from Lost that was like kind of a very bad boyfriend? The very, uh, Boone. Oh, oh, Ian Summerholder. Terrible real life boyfriend. Jacob, I just sent you something.

This guy's very popular. He makes comedy music on Instagram and TikTok. His name's Kenny Gray. I'm not a fan, but for some reason it doesn't rub me the same way. I don't smoke. unless I'm drunk But when I'm drunk I'll smoke the whole pack

Is this a parody of a existing song? No. Oh, this is his most popular? Is that his most popular song? Yeah. It's kind of just a song. Yeah, it's just a song. It's just a music.

But he does like comedy kind of music. Yeah. Like this is what this kind of band sounds like. Well, now that we're here, there's this woman on TikTok and Instagram who is, incredible. Hope Godwin 12. Can we go to Hope Godwin 12's page? Don't get the number wrong. They're so incredibly talented. It's like mind-blowing to me. Broadway musicals is Justin Bieber. I dream to dream in

time gone by. That's very good. When hope was high and life worth life was worth the living. Is that a cowboy hat? No. It's just like they have like the exact like vocal tone of Justin Bieber. So it's like just like is so good. Yeah. That's spot on. This is kind of like an non-derogatory co-worker video. Yeah. Because like, do you remember the era where?

I mean, and I'm the co-worker because I'm throwing my likes out on this one. Do you remember the era where like, what is it, history of dance was like the biggest video on the fucking planet? Do I remember the year? It was 2005. You know, 2006. It's such a moment. Oh, 2006.

April 6th. I remember watching this at Russell's House. What's the view on it now? It's probably like quaint comparatively. Yeah. 350, that's respectable. 20 years ago, though, check that out. But I just like the idea of, um, or like people are awesome compilations and stuff like that,

they still get a lot of views and they get shared around the office and stuff. Or like family group chats, I'm sure. But there is a aching sincerity to them that like is a debuff for me. Where I like see it. And if it's comedy, I'm not going to laugh. If it's dramatic, I'm not going to cry. Right, because it's... Oh, sneezing panda.

I mean, Charlie bit my finger. Charlie bit my finger, that's right. God, I remember showing... I would show this to people every opportunity that I got, and we would watch it multiple times. And now I am trying to access a version of myself that would be showing someone, Charlie bit my finger, with crying laughing.

Like, so... This is so funny. I don't have those, like, neurons anymore. I do. but it like it's not the same stuff. Yeah. And most of the stuff that gets me is not usually something I can share. Yes.

Oh no. My favorite stuff ever is like Dax stitches of like some some dude with two likes and it's like the weirdest funniest shit ever. But I can't like it's almost like chasing the dragon of. I think it is. It's like because it's just like you like you sort of mulberry. and evolve and then you become like, I think it's similar to like if you drink a lot of beer or a lot of coffee, your palate becomes a lot different.

Yeah. You could have the very pessimistic take of like, oh, you're drinking Bud Light. Or you could say this person isn't thinking that much about it. They're not investing that much of themselves in this media. I do feel like if you are in media at all, like you see this with a lot of like people who identify as like film people or whatever. feel the need to present a, you know, pinkies up more refined taste profile. And that's why it goes viral whenever like Christopher Nolan says he likes the minion movie.

Or like, uh, or, or the actual one was, um, I think fast and furious. Because he is like in his position in the world, he doesn't have any imposter syndrome about his stature. And, and I do feel like sometimes there's like a performative, like shielding of, identity. I think there's a self-consciousness about the idea that like the media you can see might not be profound. So I need to set the context. Well, well, your one is really unprofound. So relatively speaking, what I'm into, I mean, speaking to like capital F on people is absolutely insufferable. And I have a degree in being one. And it is completely unnecessary. It's very

in curious. A lot of like theory discussion has nothing to do with like implementation, history film, anything like that. It's actually just about like commerce, which I think completely kills media conversation. Like, well, this game is good, but it's not for $59.99. I'm like, well, if the game's on sale, is it now better or something? Well, look how well, this bit did at the box office. It's good. It's like, well, no, it's, if you found something resonant in it, that's cool. That's like a different conversation almost. Yeah. And it's an easier to access conversation that makes it really easy to be superior because you have metrics. You know, something like, well, actually, you don't like Team Fortress too because it's old.

I go to a lot of American cinema tech screenings. And it is very funny before the movie starts to just sit quietly and listen to the conversations happening around you. Because so many people feel for whatever reason that they need to prove themselves to their friends. friend that they brought to this movie. Don't worry. They're very smart and cool about movies. Yeah. And Echo and I will go and we always are like, look at these fucking dorks.

And then we're like, oh no, we are those dorks. Look at these other dorks at the 3 p.m. showing of your jimbo. I, I, if, if, you know, um, Kendrick Lamar sat us down and said, I'm a huge fan of, uh, kill Kyle. Carl, kill Carl. He hates kill Kyle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we killed him. And it's like, I do feel like that's a thing where it would then become, well, you know, I, if Kendrick likes him, there must be something to like. And it's like people just like what they like. And we don't have to kind of, and it's fun to, I think it's fun to be like, why am I cringing at this? like for that thing in particular.

But am I saying this person should cease making this content at once? Like absolutely not. Bring the noise. Except for this. Except for Rosal Khan. This genuinely did psychic damage to me. I mean, it's there is a little. This is the best video by the production wise is the best video.

The other ones, it is indescribable. Oh, can I see a little more please? I do think also it is particularly upsetting when it comes from. Let's go to. rich person. Oh yeah. This is coming from a billionaire and their ill-gotten gains of and by the way, it's not like they stole the billions from like a billionaire. They stole the billions from a bunch of small people who had their money in. Yeah. Can you show me one of the videos that looks even was. Yeah, yeah. Can you look up Rosal Khan music videos? Or just click on her account right there. When did this come out?

Uh, oh, great question. Maybe a couple years ago. It was before like so I made the video and then she went to jail like that around the same time that I made the video Oh, where she's still put in stuff? Yeah. Because you were in your... Oh wow. She just posted five.

Did I say five minutes ago? No, it said... There's a five months or and then like a two months ago. Five months ago. But if members only... Where the F have I been? Raw version.

Well, I mean, jail. Oh yeah. So like, okay, the one that's... Oh, that's a year ago. Six years ago. Yeah, yeah. Uh, fucking bad bitch. Bech.

Like, get it? Fucking. I'm a fucking. fucking bad bitch. I'm a thaw king. Like a fun name for a... 2020 that did show. It's like back. Fur puns were really big. Maybe click on that one. The second one, yeah. I don't. I had never seen this one actually.

Never mind. Let's stop watching this. Oh. There's a different video. I wonder if they've been removed. The now out... Falsely accused. Okay, don't. Can't go. that far. They quite literally... They haven't proven anything. No, I think it's convicted. She's convicted. Yeah. We'll see.

She did her time now. We did. We did actually see. She did her time so she... Innocent. You did your time so you didn't do the crime. Oh, that's not... I mean, if it was expunged, maybe, you could make that argument. But the one who rhymed did the crime. Well, speaking of music and speaking of rhyming, there is a new song. So I've been experiencing something recently, and it's because I'm old. And it's that... I go online and then they say this is the number one song in the world. And I go, I've never heard of that. I don't know who made that.

That's not true. No way. I don't know. And this happened with like a country song recently because it broke all these like Mariah Carey records. And I was like, what do you mean? And do you remember what that song was called, Jake? Um, all my exes live in Texas or something like that.

Like the George straight song? What the heck? Wait, no, no, no, no. Something about Texas. Oh, yeah. Like something about. Oh, it's choosing Texas. Choos in Texas.

I love Lingly. Yeah. And it's like, I had never heard that song on my life, but that's a real song by a real person. Which are like, it is not only on co-worker rotation, but also like probably the biggest on iTunes. Yeah. And also, this is like a genre I don't typically engage with. And most of the time I'm hearing like the radio is like waiting at the doctor's office. Yeah, that's true.

I didn't think about it. So that's not what we're talking about. We are talking about a, the song of the summer, as some are calling it. the song called actually what the fuck was it called again something I almost said buttons rubbers rubbers rubbers with a z

butters uh it's rubbers with a z by like phoenix felix felix fiero de killer so is this Felix felices before we get in flexen in perks on the V

oh wow okay go ahead before we get into this do you know like are they using rubbers in the like 1980s rapper sense? Like a Johnny. I actually don't know.

Like a Jimmy hat. You know what's funny? I do not know the answer to that question because while I've heard the song, I haven't really thought about the lyrics because I was so taken aback by the music, the musicality of it. Okay. So we're going to do a little bit of listening to this. And we may have to, we may have to mute it or play like a.

elevator music over it. Can you search, Jacob, just Phoenix Flex. And I want you to like see this guy, you know, in a, don't judge a book by its cover type way. I want you to imagine the music that this person would make.

All right, respect. Yeah, okay. Amateur pro wrestler, yeah. I've seen this kind of guy. All right, cool, cool, cool. Okay, now we can listen to the amateur pro wrestler. It's funny.

Now we can listen to the song. Swiping cards and staten chips. I saw your sinking ships. Call me surprised. stand in the porn rain. No, about a heavy diamond chain. That room looks like where we did a photo shoot. Is that where we shot?

That is where we did the photo shoot. Oh my god. Oh, holy shit! That's criss. Wait. That struck me too. Wait, yes. Little bed in the corner, the two-door.

Oh my god. That's awesome. Wait, yeah, we'll have to show side by side. Yeah, we did a sad boy's photo shoot. With this color grade. Like, it actually is like eerie. In this room. With her.

Okay, now you, we'll have to show. Back up because we need to, I need Jordan to hear this music. Good, good catch. What a rush. It was so hot in that room. It was so hot in that room. My pockets getting thicker. The watch is moving quicker. My knee talk is much like.

Kind of a Rick-assly tears for fears. Yes, it does. So this is the song of the summer. So this is the song of the summer and it has a- Show me them views. Yeah, how many views? I'm gonna pull up the spot. 7.7 million on the music video.

You couldn't follow it. Well, you always say rap like crap. Was his flow too fast for you? No, I just, it sounded like nonsense, just a bunch of random words put together. Interesting that you see the lyrics. A man wrote this, he bore his heart for you. So the song has,

Genius says, Revers is a genre bending flat track from Phoenix Flexin, where he blends his West Coast roots with 80s. inspired synth pop, singing in an unexpected British-influenced vocal style. And this has 32 million listens on Spotify. Phoenix Fenton has 9 million listeners. And the song is AI generated. Oh, hell yeah.

And the song is AI generated. I thought it was bad, but actually. In what way? Like, is he actually singing on it at all? The song is, as far as we know, completely generated through this app called Sonato, which changes name to Treblow. Both. Nonsense.

And in the way that they found this out, it's streaming on Blipo. Like we can watch this Instagram real because the original post of the music, or of the, I think, audio included like Sonado

in the title. And like, yeah, so we can just watch this real quick. How does this keep happening? I know. So this is medicine, a music producer, and they kind of connected the dots here. There's no AI on this. No AI on it.

You freestyle rubbers? Yeah. What? They did not use sooner. They did not use UDio. They used something called Treblow, formerly known as Sonato, which is a new free online music model.

And he actually exposed this on accident himself before Rubbers even came out. He posted a snippet of a song where he forgot to remove the side text from the fact. After messing around with this model for maybe 30 minutes with this very vague lyric prompt, I started to notice that it very consistent, consistently spits out exact specific bars from rubbers way too many way too often for it to

possibly be a coincidence very important context more quick you might be wondering is rubbers is rubber is feeding back into this model and causing it to spit out these bars and sound like rubbers and the answer is no I know it's not because I replaced Phoenix with Eminem using the exact same prompt and it still spits out all of these I mean it could still it could still be in the model but I think the more compelling thing is the the lyrics that are generated are like there's so many like specific phrases that appear in just the generated songs here, which you'll show. Yeah, and Occam's Razor, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the thing is, like, a lot of people do just want to make, like, have made stuff. Like, we make, we have fun of the Sunnah guy being like, people don't like making music. And it's like, well, that, not real musicians do like making music. A lot of people don't. And they just want to have made stuff. Like, a lot of people just want to be famous. Yeah, exactly.

And there's, there are famous rappers who, like, like, just wanted to be famous. and who don't care too much about their music. And there's also famous singers who all the music ended was done for them, right? Exactly. And they just perform it. And if they go on a podcast and say, I actually wrote all of this by myself is where it gets a little eye brawraise. And that was him literally saying that, was you just saying to Andrew Gallad that he freestyled it? He freestyled it.

That's a really funny idea, doing a cipher over a T. I freestled it with a milk. an LLM collabed and freestyle this. Oh, who's LLM? I freestalled the prompt, actually, dude. I said I want a viral hit. I vibe coded the string. All right, if you just, yeah, if you just hit play,

the phrases are like, undeniably, like, just straight from the thing. Diamond chains, hanging heavy, now about a heavy diamond chain. See your face in the champagne bubbles still seeing your face in the glass. That's awesome.

With plastic. My pockets getting thicker. Plastic smiles for the camelins. Stuck in there. Just to lose my friends Goddam Like it's like a lot of I'm kind of money on a table

Why not like Rerecorded and is at least your voice It makes it so much more defensible And you can be like yeah it's producer materials But this guy has all the confidence in the world To look you in the eyeballs And say I made it up myself You'll never be able to figure it out

And I think that that's all you need. You need confidence. Yeah, you can swag it out. Because now it worked, by the way. Like, he has a viral song. People are paying attention to him. And if they like, and a lot of people don't care that it's aad generated. I have to imagine.

Of those millions of streams. Yeah. It's fewer than 10,000 people give a shit. Because people, coworkers these days, co-worker music is being, is being terraformed by AI. It's being absolutely. Yeah, it's salted. The earth is absolutely salted. You're not a, dude, I couldn't listen to like, a lo-fi hip-hop beats to study to today and not think that it was AI generated.

Yeah, it's become kind of a trend for them to tag those now with not AI. Yes. For like, like, like, anytime we play D&D, we try and find like, oh, what would fit the environment? Ooh, big castle at most with like barred music or something like that. And every single one is an AI generated image with a really, really, really long loop and no likes and all aggrimals. and all aggressive comments. Like the, everyone on there is very cynical about it.

Even just like, Jordan and I have been playing like Slate the Spire a bunch and we started putting on just like random music. Like World Club like Popopia music to study to, you know? And half of those are just like AI bullshit. Really what happened to like people create? Remember, let's say like early 2010s, what YouTube was all lyric videos.

Just people putting lyrics on a blank background. That art is lost because people are... Why do the craft of rubbers? Bank rolls on the table. Watching local cable. I think I'm doing a pretty good impression. That was back on. What in the world is he talking about?

I'm reading the lyrics right now. So I think... He's talking about the rapper lifestyle, by the way. The contemporary 2026 rapist style. Essentially, all the lyrics are about him getting rich and famous. Congrats. But still remembering his lost love. Logging into Suno.

And it's like, I've got. Oh, no. You know, my pocket's getting thicker. The watch is moving quicker. What? But I can't sleep through the night. Still seeing your face. Like, it's like.

To be fair, music often is like, it doesn't like read as like a full complete sentence or whatever. No, no, no. But this is also. So, you know, you can tell it's a lot. And those songs are also bad. Like, a lot of most lyrics are like this and most lyrics are bad. But this is just so. Like, this actually feels like kind of normal middle of the road song lyrics.

And that's because it was trained on hundreds of millions of middle of the road song lyrics. It's like, it just got the like, you know, mean. Yeah. Wait, am I using mean? You are, you are, you are. It just took all the mean lyrics, the average. The average lyrics and like funneled them in. They send to radiating a high school, high school's water supply,

so that they can make like astronaut in the ocean a little bit quicker. Okay. So can I just bring up a point? Just one point, please. Of course, of course. I'm a huge fan of the band The Smiths. Don't come at me. I get that Morrissey's a bad man.

Okay. Morrissey is a bad man. But I grew up on the Smiths. Badman. I still feel a lot of love towards that music. And I still like Johnny Marr. No one has ever done the Smiths. They're very unique in how the lyrics are sung.

You know, there's other music that's kind of like it. Especially, like domestically, especially in the U.S. That's like a very, very especially weird move. And this is giving the Smiths. You know what's funny? I played this for my friend and they said the same thing. Yep. So that's another reason why I'm like.

accented. He's doing like, the table. That's not an American accent. That's, um, so. And we can't listen to the Smiths here, but I would play boy with a thorn in his side. And you can also see how the lyrics in that are way more like poetic and like you've got to kind of decipher that. I don't think it gets more poetic than still your perfume lingers. Plastic plate I eat on you. No.

Oh, wait. gold rings on my fingers Oh my God, dude Jarvis, if you listen to the Smiths, I feel like you would know every single one of their lyrics in one day. And you would probably connect more with Morrissey's ideology

and the thing's like that's. No. Okay, so here's the best part. They did an on the radar performance, Phoenix Flexen did, this song that they did not create with their mouth or their sounds. Did he lip sync it?

You can just generate. I'm pretty sure you can just generate that was. How did he perform it? That's what I mean. That's why we're going to cringe right now when we watch it. Let's cringe. I don't think it's his voice. No, I don't think so either.

He's doing an impersonation of it. Maybe. I actually have to watch this now. So I'm, I just have to assume this isn't good. But I could be wrong. It could be incredible. Disclabor, this sucks.

Swiping cards and statin chips. I saw your sinking ships. That's, let me stand him in the porn range. He is. This is a studio track between. 100%. But I can't sweet school the night. It's like you can't tell the microphone would be...

You would hear the distance. He's not even trying to lip sync it well. It's like... So like Millie Vanilli was a band that in like the 90s, they were outed for being a different singer who maybe like wasn't like these beautiful men or whatever. And they were like, oh, this person can never be a star. Instead, we're going to just have them sing for this group. And then their CD skipped essentially when they were performing at like the VMAs.

And it was a huge thing. And basically they went away from there. And this is like that if it was also made by AI. It's a suspension of disbelief, right? Like, because you just, you can, you can do whatever behind the scenes. Your methods can be whatever. You can have as many ghostwriters as you want. You can have a fully generated verse.

Like, whatever. But you have to maintain the K-fabe. And I think that's what bothers people is like, people going to wrestling shows. Do not think The Undertaker has superpowers. But you. You do in the room. You have to do in the room. If I'm going to an improv show, I'm like, oh my God, this.

I thought that was Jarvis, but he's, they're calling him Stephen. I'll be honest. Right now I'm in it. When I was a kid and I, like, I wasn't a big wrestling guy. So when I saw The Undertaker like come back to life, I was a little scared. Oh, 100%. This might be real. There was a generational shift.

It was a great callie. There was the two particular like heel face rivals who then got caught hanging out at a diner. And it like permanently broke people's understanding or expectations. And then now you're a mark, I think they call you. You're a mark if you genuinely believe it. Yeah. Post like 2010. Because now wrestling is the, it's the domain of tabletop role playing game podcast listeners.

I was just saying we know people, or at least we're connected to people who've like written for professional wrestling. It's more power space than anything. It's the MMHAD is like gone from wrestling. There's also like a very queer element now where it's, It's like, oh, we love this. Like, this wrestler makes their own costumes. Like, is very, yeah, yeah, exactly. Because it's also being written and made and performed by people that grew up enjoying it for these reasons.

It's like survivor players. Yeah, it's a full gen. I think something that is bothering me about this video even more is that, and let me reveal my dark history with TikTok where I did so many, like, video. where you are just lip singing the sound, you know. Whenever you are lip syncing something, if you are trying to make it look like you are perfectly saying the word, that's not how the human mouth actually moves when you're talking or when you're singing, because you're singing with so much passion,

or you should be. And he is just like barely moving his mouth. He's not mouthing it how someone actually would say it. He's trying, he's doing it in the TikTok way of- Oh, so the mic is moving. I am kind of grooving. But your mouth is moving more naturally than his is. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

in the TikTok way of trying to make it look exactly like the word. I don't even think he's doing that good job of that. Let's play like, I don't know, nine or ten of yours. I got to watch more of this, though. I got to watch more of this. Is he wearing a Roxy music shirt or what is he wearing? I'm also, I also. Is he wearing a leopard print choker?

Yeah. It could just be his for, maybe. But it kind of looks like, oh no, it's police. Dude, he's dressed like it's for the equipment bonus. and not for style. He's wearing like pleather, leg arm, he's got like plus two.

Yeah, I was going to see. His equipment has buffs. Yeah. The fact that he's wearing a British like 80s band shirt, he's wearing a police shirt which is Sting's old band. Yeah.

Makes me also feel like he's like dressing in character. Like this is not how he would dress normally. It's a really cool look. Okay, can we play a little bit more? I didn't. know you could because I've seen a number of on the radar performances and maybe I've just seen

the ones of like artists that are doing are doing the performance and I haven't seen the lip sync but I didn't know if it was common to lip sync yeah it's a good point I mean I guess it's probably also on request right it's like I'm doing lip sync by the way for this one I just don't understand why well whatever if I were producing on the radar I'd be like, no, there's no reason to do this thing is, if you're reducing on the radar, you're like, this person's viral right now. Yeah. So I want to get the Mula.

I want to get the Vula. Is Vula? Have people said that before? It's a startup I'm starting. Well, I do think it's actually a pretty good way to talk about getting these. Yeah, Vula. It's a, I'm using generative AI to create YouTube videos that siphon adsense from human creators. Is that so bad?

Is that so bad? What are you going to do? Sue me? What are you going to do, Suno? What are you going to do? Or crambus or whatever this app was called. It's so unbelievable. It's honestly, it's actually very funny to take all of the like

generic club motion stuff and put this over it. It's like an edit. It's like he was just doing like a generic trap track. It looks like there's like a viral video I saw of like it was like some guys who like look like their like hood dudes. like doing a song like this and this is what it looks like it looks like they swap the track out.

It's like like running through my mind ice on my wrist. It's just like emotions are wrong. There's actually a popular type of TikTok that I genuinely love. Well, because the Smiths are Morrissey takes. Are very popular with Mexican Americans

and probably Mexicans in Mexico. I don't know. But where I grew up in Arizona Mexican Americans love the Smiths. I don't know what to tell you. It's not an accusation. So there's a really cool thing on TikTok of like mariachi bands doing Smith songs or Norteno bands doing Smith songs.

Oh, cool. Like different kind of like Mexican, more traditional music takes on Smith's. And this is, and it's really fun to see, like, people's takes on it. This is his take on it, I guess. And wasn't the other track that, like, very briefly heard during the guy, the guy exposing the AI thing? That was an entirely different genre as well, right? Like, I don't want to be skeptical, but I'm going to go ahead and be a little skeptical

and say that I don't think these guys like a multi-genre, multi-instrumentalist. No. Because that's not just being a good musician, this being a phenomenal musician. Right. and I can we check his other tracks? Like are they all just different prompts essentially? Classical pianists.

There are flexing tracks. Oh yeah. Wait, okay, you got it, you got it here. Never leave we fall. It is exactly this.

Does he just think that like, I mean, he wasn't going to find out or he didn't know. I'll take exactly what he's thinking of. Bank rolls on the table. Looking of his pocket. Wait, what's that one?

Ten toes, even more popular? Five years ago. Five years ago. What did he sound like? Oh, he did? Oh, whoa, this is interesting. Okay, let's watch this real quick. Watch.

Bitch up like I'm Bruce Lee. Bye, bye. I'm gonna stand ten toes on my two feet. Totally different, just kind of traditional. What would you, like, trap house? What is that? Yeah, it's like trap music. It's like 20, 2020 version of like backpack wrap.

It's very just like, go into the store I'm getting this look at my wrist I wear my what on my wrist and it's not I got gold on my teeth I got gold on my knees

I've been spending money at the store to buy stuff for me my name went out had to get surgery two months out of MMA made a come back lost today

is Connor McGregor this is my friend Steve he's gonna do a bar now my name's Steve I have another thing this reminds me of. Can we look up, or I think this is it, can you look up E.J. Jones? Is this cool? Is this his son? Yeah, it's really good. But he's like performing at himself.

He just has this incredibly soulful voice. But why would you do that? You can just make it on a, on computer. It was last year. It wasn't Sonato hadn't come out yet. It couldn't be done. A tremble off. But it's just, I remember this going viral because people were like, I didn't expect his voice to sound like that. Yeah, he sounds like an older man. It's like he has the voice of like a 70s like R&B star. He sounds like he's in the 70s. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why did he this, um, Philatio McGee?

Felix Felicia. Phoenix Felicia. Felicia Felicia. Wait, isn't that the potion from Harry Potter that makes you forget stuff? You're thinking of kind of lingua. Does it make you learn stuff or does it make you do? He's Jackal. Phoenix Felice.

Is it like, good luck or something? Good luck or something. Oh, it's a good luck potion. Anyway, this is. You're thinking you have, Lucky-o good time. He gets it from, what's his face, that professor. And he pretends to give it to Ron, and Ron wins the...

Felix Felices. Good luck. Professor Horace Slughorn. Slughorn. This is a six book, right? Half a plug plant. Yes! Still got it.

By the way, anyone know what JK Rowling is up to? Don't support JK Rowling. No, what's the latest? I'm not sure about all of Harry Potter with AI. But what was your question, Jordan? Well, like... Wizards on the table. Why not just like generate the shit he was already doing?

Oh yeah. Why this? Is it just because he did every genre prompt and was like, well, this one called on? Well, maybe he just was like. Oh, yeah. Can we, like, I'm wondering what the comments say about this performance. I am 81 years old. This is my first draft trick.

Oh, positive, positive. Are you going to have more artists perform AI slop here? Yeah, because a month ago, people didn't know. Wait, wait, wait. What the fuck he's not even singing? Girl back. See, see,

this is, the thing is a month ago, people that know, yeah. Bro hit the lab and came back with an 80s.

That's crazy. Yeah, he did hit the lab. You know, I guess, by default, I wouldn't, like,

a month ago, this got to be a Gemini AI song. That they were onto it. But like, I feel like AI music is a little trickier to detect because you can

also just be overproduced. Yeah. Like, that can just sometimes be the case. But the, I think what's fucking with me is like,

it's so, easy to make an overproduced track if you just did everything but the vocals. And then you're ensuring yourself a little bit. Like, okay, well, then when you go and perform it, at least it's something you know how to do. It's just such a weird sacrifice. It's like when you see someone doing like robbing a bank, but then they don't have their face covered. And you're going, why didn't they cover their face? What are you thinking?

What are you thinking? Why aren't you wearing a Mike Myers mask, silly Billy? You're too obvious. Just shoot everyone. Why are you leaving people alive? The witnesses. Did you see that while you were watching local cable? Wait, so I have something that maybe we need to move tonight.

But Phoenix Flexen, this song, Rubbers. His name is Felacio Pino Sini. Also reminds me of another 80s singer named Boy George. Oh, yeah. So Boy George recently put out an AISO that I would love to play for you. you all on nights because we can't play it here because it'll be demonetized. Was there something else we wanted to get to in this? Perhaps.

Oh, has you responded? To your messages? We asked him to be on the show. To my DMs, yeah. We need a new theme song. We love your new 80s pop hit. I didn't find anything to do with condoms on the lyrics, in the lyrics, by the way. Rubbers.

I kind of want to. It's like his car is on his car? So are we not using the term rubber for condom anymore? We're using Johnny. We're using Jimmy hat. We say rubber Johnny Jimmy hat, lamb skin, penis,ini.

I like to say prophylactic. He's taken the travel output, used a stem separator that breaks into four stems, vocal instrument-based drums. Underneath, he has layers of his actual vocals where he is layered on top of the Treblos song to try and legitimize it to make it real.

So he did do it? Well, I think this is what he did when he revealed the project files. Like, because he didn't really reveal them. It's like he faked a reveal. Deleted his post showing the project files. Because that's sort of like the point.

I feel like the actual final result that is going to be the most effective is taking the stems, everything but vocals. Or better yet, taking everything and then very, very, very slightly remaking it. Then you're essentially insured, right? Because now you're just using a song starter, which people use. But to do not. I don't think that's his voice. I don't either.

Well, the older song that we heard sounded, his voice sounded a little different. But he wasn't singing. He was singing, but it did sound different. He was singing, but it did sound different. He sounded really good. I did watch, oh, what's this as a premiere? Here, I made the song. Oh, it's, oh.

Phoenix Flex and Shares studio session footage. Oh, is that him? Okay, okay, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Okay, so here's saying that this is just like a, they just use a stem separator.

And then, yeah, medicine responded to this saying, okay, these are just the stems from the AI thing. Yeah, because this is all like Vox record, Vox record, Vox record, Vox record. Like, it looks like it was just like a dump of the thing. Yeah. It's also like not, I feel like this is barely the thing people are taking issue. with. Let's see what they try and come up with now. Oh, really? They're like, what the fuck is that first going? I don't know. The fact that you're getting so defensive makes you seem guilty, fam.

It literally says fixed Vox. Why would you post this? Yeah. Bizarre choice. It's kind of interesting. It is the song of the fucking summary. I mean, look, I'll put my bank rolls on the table on this. I'm saying it's AI. I'm saying it. I'll stick with Zach Burger or whatever it is called. Zapie Burger, late epic. Kill Carl.

Give me burger I want it now? What was it called? You mess with my friends and your motherfucking die. I got a cheeseburger! Cologne 3! Should we start a rap group? Yeah, it's the fuckers. Because the trend was like Trescia Padas.

Oh, there you are now. Give me fucking cheeseburger. Yeah, that's... Okay. Yeah. So people are doing this with cheeseburger. I mean, yeah, I do want a cheeseburger. Yeah, there's Nicholas from Love Island.

Get in my mouth right now. That's funny. Fuck my goddamn server. Oh, there you are now. Give me fucking cheeseburger. Oh, okay. Stop, stop, stop. Something, it's, it's, it's, it's.

You're loving this? The more I see it. Stop it because I love it so much. It's doing whatever the opposite of ASVR is. Yeah. It's going like down my spine. You can see like everyone's face is like in the give me fucking cheeseburger face. Were they not inoculated to it?

Dinosaur style. Okay. I'm, I'm. I'm off this. This is awesome. This is fun. This is fun and it's like very innocently fun and so I was nothing. But I like I do wonder if we are inoculated to it because of experience.

We have like herd immunity to this kind of stuff from experiencing it in person. And if you just, it's like that whole sentiment of like kids need bullying. And it's like well it no, they need like education. education and socialization. And we're very bad at doing that. So the only way that people are ever taught about social marries is through meanness. That's not good. Yeah.

It's just what happens. Yeah. And it's like we are, I wish we weren't cringing at this. Because if no one did, then it's only fun. Yeah. We just happen to have been preconditioned to cringe and there ain't no going back now. Speak for yourself, buddy. I'm smiling all my way to the bank.

Devin, you're looking. Watch on your wrist. You wrote this song. Gold rings on my fingers. Fingers with his ear. Okay. Going to Patreon. Watching Trisha Pater's.

Frenememones on the table. What happened to my favorite podcast. Vave Nation TV. Okay. So we're going to head over to stop. Boys Nights. Anastasia is going to show us some stuff. We're going to, I mean, I got a lot of stuff.

What do I got? We have too much stuff. We have too much stuff. We have too much stuff. We have to record in too long. So now we've got too much stuff to talk about. We're backed up. We're backed up and we need fiber supplements.

There's something called UK poo. That'll keep us in the kind of music area. That's what we got backed up is UK poo. Okay. So here's what I'm going to say, though, to close us out. You like whatever you like unabashedly. And if people cringe, who cares? If people don't like it, who cares.

As long as you're not harming. anybody who cares and uh phoenix flexen uh release the project files you won't let me see it and uh check check that ripper don't kill people don't kill people come on i think you're going to have to go back in time especially women leave women alone they're just working actually women don't um don't kill women that's a crazy stance come on i'm done with this that's ridiculous You can check on our Patreon for Sad Boys nights, which will be recording right after this at patreon.com slash sadboys using $5 of your discretionary entertainment spending. It's just content. No big, no big, no big, don't worry about it.

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