Sad Boyz - The Lies of Elon Musk (w/ ConnorEatsPants)

Episode Date: January 17, 2025

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Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. I'm Jordan. And today we're joined by a very special guest, Antis Pants. It's Connor. Hello. What up, Connor? I'm Connor Eats Pants. What's going on? The Fortnite Friday Maestro.

Is that the, it's like back in the day username and it's just stuck with you? Yeah, well, I got it. I was like making, I just like made a YouTube channel that like I was going to like actually work on. Cause I'd made a couple or a bunch as like a kid, but I was making a PlayStation network name and I was like, okay, like I'll use this as my YouTube name. And I just kept trying things.

I was like, what do I remember? Right. And it was, I kept remembering one thing I, the thing in my mind was like the iCarly episode where they tell Mr. Howard that he eats pants. I was like,

okay, well I'll just do that. That is my cultural blind spot. What's that high school one? I'm going to high school. It's time for high school or something. Hey, it's my friends and we're at a high school. Come on.

There's so many in high school. Is it a Disney show? Is it a Nickelodeon show? Do you know any of the actors are now famous? Were they on a cruise ship? No they're like students at a high school oh okay so he's like oh no i'm late for the high school boy meets world boy meets world is like adjacent to boy it's got like it's got oh saved by the bell saved by the bell at high school that's also a blind spot it should be called saved at the high school yeah well saved by the bell is high school. That's also a blind spot. It should be called Saved at the High School.

Saved by the Bell is kind of old. Yeah, it's like older. It should be called Not Degrassi. Now that's not my blind spot. How the hell are you doing? How are you doing, dude? I'm doing great. I'm doing okay. The air is a little thin.

We should rip this band-aid off. We are in Los Angeles. We are still, you know, LA fires are still active. We're exactly one week away from the quarantine warning starting, basically. Yeah, it's the opposite of a quarantine, actually. I guess it's self-imposed quarantine to get away from the smoke. Yeah, because like we, um,

I don't want to give too much like geographical information, but we're like near one of the major fires. And so obviously we canceled our recording last week. I think we put out a little statement about that. Thanks everybody for being patient with us. We're all safe, which is very fortunate, uh,

because it's like, could have very easily not been the case. It's just luck. It's just like complete luck. And most of it was just for myself. It was mostly just being like 24-7 anxiety about being on the watch duty app and like watching the progression of the fires and evac zones and packing up and having a

go back having the car packed up being ready to ready to go but then not going outside if i could avoid it because the air quality was so bad it was like raining ash yeah here for like the longest time it did really feel like one of those like you know if there's ever any kind of uh even minor earthquake that happens here i get a dozen messages from my British cohort. And it's like, what happened? You falling a big crack? Die? Yeah.

And I'm like, I didn't even feel it. This just happens sometimes. And then this one I was, I reached out to my aunt before they even woke up in the UK. I'm like, I'm okay, by the way. You are going to see news. And you should. It is actually happening. I saw the rock movie san

andreas with my mom in like 2014 and like now that i live out here she's conscious constantly like thinking that it's going to be the one right the earth opens up andrea same thing happened with that movie where he's in a tower and he doesn't have a leg yeah i didn't see that one but i want my dad's always reaching out he's like you got a leg oh yeah you still got in a tower he loses a leg in that he uh is the hook of it for some reason is not just that they're in a die-hard uh style situation it's that he also only has one leg oh i didn't know that it seems like an unnecessary yeah that's one i think dude where's my leg um yeah so we it's funny uh because we have connor on this week and just to like so first of all i want to give you know uh all of the credit in the world

to the firefighters and um everyone who's been like working to contain and deal with the fires. And we're by no means out of the woods yet. You know, fires are beginning to be contained. It's overly easy for us to compartmentalize it now and not appreciate that, especially the incarcerated firefighters that are at risk not getting paid. And the DEI firefighters. Right, of course.

It's like obviously been politicized, but no, the real is that, you know know there's a lot of firefighters mobilized a lot of them are incarcerated and are working for like ten dollars a day and putting their life on the line ten dollars a day max um with non-transferable skill they can't use it after they get out because i don't think you can be a firefighter it's like there's like a weird thing where it's like just difficult to become one uh but yeah it's it's a really shitty situation all around we know a lot of people who've lost their homes um thankfully i don't personally know anyone who's like lost any loved ones but you know definitely there were uh victims uh of the fire a lot of people who couldn't evacuate in time it's it's a it was

so alarmingly fast how everything how quickly everything accelerated especially pivoting off of the the wind right because before was the wind yeah well it was like the wind was like okay that was the thing that was on my mind like i had some outdoor furniture that like blew over yeah i. I lost pillows on my outdoor furniture. I had a neighbor text me that like, Hey, do you know what this is? It just like landed in front of my door.

And it's like a neighbor that lives like, like kind of like a house. It's like the opposite end of the next door house. And it was dippers dog bed. That's like, there's an outdoor dog bed that we have for him. That's like, and it had just like blown out and I guess flown in front of the door and like that's what i'm thinking of

and then oh i like heard about the palisades fire but then i was like working that day wasn't paying attention we had connor coming on the next day we're like i was connor and i were like joking around about the winds like we're just talking about the winds and not an hour later, there's like another fire that's picked up and spread. And suddenly, you know, we're all on emergency watch and we need to like, it's not like now it's like less about the podcast and we're about like, are we going to have to evacuate?

Yeah, it's weird. Cause I mean, last time we didn't do the show. Yeah, this is the third time that like, there was was an emergency that canceled the Connery Spence podcast. You are an ointment. You can't be unrelated. Yeah, I was kind of worried today that something would happen.

Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. I mean, knock on wood. Maybe I'll do something. Connor, what was your experience like with the fires? Yeah, that night was like the wind. The wind was crazy. And I went out like if you just about to be sucked into the yeah i was like outside like trying to like see what it

was i was like i can't stand out here like i want to get blown away um and uh knew that was bad because there shouldn't be like 100 mile per hour winds in like los angeles it just i feel like i was a little bit you know when you like get in the zone with, I feel like I was a little bit, you know, when you like get in the zone with whatever, you're like locked in on something, maybe it's a game,

maybe it's your work or whatever. And you're like, oh, I haven't really stepped outside today. It was like, that was the feeling

of like looking at the news and being like, oh my God, we're in the middle of a disaster. Do I need to be stepping out more and looking?

Like I was like, how could I, like how could I have missed this? But it's because it all happened so fast yeah i'm just sending um to jacob uh this is the experience on the on the night that it was kind of kicking off this is the uh experience of uh corresponding with con Connor hope you're safe dude Connor replies

where do fires come from do you like your profile pic by the way I do I love that it's like me

I do think that is that's better than my profile pic on your phone and mine is an actual photograph of me what are you on

mine that's just a nice photo of you yeah I know and that looks more like him than that photo am I still Winnie the Pooh on yours yeah I'm like a disturbing and I don't even remember what it's and he's just a nice photo yeah i know and that looks more like him than that photo myself winnie the pooh on yours yeah i'm like a disturbing bird and i don't even remember what

it's from it's a reference to nothing um but yes i shout out to everybody that has been struggling hopefully the i mean what this comes out in two days you guys evacuated we did we so part of it was uh because we were we were getting like tentative warnings um and on some level knowing like well we're on the the outskirts again not giving way too much information but like we are not in um there's plenty of urban fires happening but as far as like the wind direction and the kind of like flammable environment we're pretty isolated more like a like kind of a downtown space but then i was thinking that purely on assumption i was just it was almost like a cope i was thinking like well it's not gonna get here because of x and y

and i'm like i do think that was do you guys get the sense that people were a little more conscientious about it using covid cynicism i felt like a lot of people were like you could just say oh it's not gonna get to me and then they went like well that's what i thought right yeah yeah i mean i uh i woke up so like that night i went to bed and i wasn't like i started like doom reading about all of the the night prior as it was coming out. So like Tuesday night, I think it was when all of the winds were supposed to reach their peak. And so that was terrifying because it was like, Oh,

they're going to reach the peak at like three in the morning. And I was like, Oh, so do I sleep? Like, what am I going to wake up if an alarm happens? Yeah. I mean,

you talked about like, do we, should we be doing shifts or something? I think my fear was less that something was going to happen and more like this guilt i had in the back of my brain of like if something goes wrong and it was because i was i was putting it off or being inactive or a little like blinkery then i would i would feel so bad like even if we got away and we were okay if it was my fault for not being proactive and, like, packing the bags. No, exactly.

Yeah, I'll pack some bags. I'll get some non-perishables. You'd feel like a lesser man of the household. Because I'm kind of like a Jack John Wick style alpha right now. Kind of like if John Wick had Master Chief's powers and shit. Exactly. And also the Iron Man suit. And also the Iron Man suit, but he Iron Man suit but he was a little bit taller

and gone but yeah and then that night I had I put in the address of one of our friends into one of the monitoring apps and I woke up at like 6

that morning to an evacuation notice for that friend's address thinking it was mine because I was just like loopy and had just woken up so I just woke up and like complete alarm and almost like in action where I was in panic but I didn't know like what to do or where to go first then I checked the app again and realized it was that friend and that friend had already left their place like the night before. So they were, they were safe, but it's just like, it was so like, it is just luck. And everything was so close.

It is so fast too, if you are in that spot, like if you're in the spot where it was bad and like, it really went down, like it was like, you had to go within. It's like, if you were in the Palisadesades then it was like the fire started at 10 that morning and if you weren't out at 3 p.m then for some people it was even quicker than that yeah like like the last like i wouldn't even say safe time but like we have a i i just heard about the thing about living in la is that like you hear about fires during the fire season obviously it's not fire season but like it I like remember reading that there was a fire but I didn't it didn't register the seriousness of it like realizing that we are so small in comparison to I think that like a fire kind of like contextualizes for people like even if like

someone's rich and very fortunate it's like it's literally like gone gone yeah like it's like nothing no control like yeah it's like personal things too like gone gone yeah like it's like nothing no control like yeah it's like personal things too yeah there's no like mental thing get under the doorframe if there's an earthquake or avoid like uh shelving and so it's like no you have to leave and you lose you know it's just over yeah it's pretty easy to sympathize with it's like a pure law like in it yeah again it's just like it's also just your home and it's your safe space and you know for that person it's like they had all these things from their childhood there and it's very very like it's just an insane realization of like how powerless we are in the face of things like this

did you have to were you on like a severe warning at any point or you did i mean i was on like the warning like i think most people were yeah you didn't head out i didn't need to head out no there was like the not like too much away but there was like the like hollywood one that broke out that like was pretty scary oh that well funnily enough yeah we left and crashed with a friend briefly because we were there was like the zeitgeist was like hey you're next and we're like okay well let's just leave get essential stuff which is a weird experience of like assessing what you really do want to take with you yeah and the cope came in again a little bit where i was like i'm gonna take because i don't have a lot of photos of like my mom and i was in the closet i'm like

should i is it crazy to yeah if i can take him like put him in the car and then we left yeah but then um what was it called it was the vegetation fire that developed into the uh the sunset sunset yeah because we were and we weren't like near there but then we were just like well this is as bad as it was let's just go home and that was so fast but thankfully like it was able to be contained earliest like before it got you know really out of hand um and there's a lot of this isn't like we complete incompetence of the california of the la municipality like it's not there's no excuse for it yeah but it's also like i'm not don't pretend to be an expert on this but from what i've heard from experts it's also true that like this would be not not

saying that the la government didn't make any missteps or anything like that but it's also the case that like no water system in the world is my understanding is no water system in the world could have handled the demand like on it was enormous like it's because they had they had that you have a hundred mile per hour winds and like a place that's dry and then and then four fires of like the size like in the winter yeah like if it's just one time to maybe feel a little optimistic yeah so i mean it's just it's a shitty situation in all directions um and it's something that we're still you know dealing with so it's like i i've been feeling in

this like very um caught what what's the like it's like i'm alert i'm cautiously optimistic i guess sure yeah where i'm i'm like trying to stay abreast of like everything that's going on but we have as much power as we do we have as much power as we did before we just like are a little bit more like okay i'm i'm i know what's in the go bag you know i know what i'm grabbing i felt very conflicted about how like uh uh severe a tone i have to have when i talk about stuff like this right same applied when uh the election results came in where i'm just like you know i shouldn't be joking or i shouldn't be making light of something like this. And I don't really know what my opinion is.

Do you have a take on like, can you joke about this? When, if, how? Yeah, I think that like we're kind of the same way. Like it's just how we like kind of cope with things. But it's also like we've turned that into our job too. Like people kind of expect that from us. Yeah, that's true. To the point that like more so than a normal average person that works a normal day job,

when we have this tone, it's more expected. Right. Whereas if you were working at Starbucks and you were suddenly joking about something, people would be like, oh my God, wow, that's a good file. We put out that statement on the, well, I think we released it on everything, but Peeps was kind enough to write us up a statement that we could post to say like hey

no episode this week you you get it uh and it was it was weird because it it had like a it was the perfect statement it was drafted just right they did a great job but i remember my first instinct being uh this is such like a formal thing for us to post yeah and i guess we're post we were posting it as like a unit as sad boys team or whatever but at the same time it was almost like oh that's i'm like making a pr statement for my like podcast where i'm like adhd is crazy what if garfield had a gun you know it's just like the hangout show or whatever yeah Yeah. Which, I mean, I guess, uh, actually that's a line you kind of ride. Cause you have like guests on fortnight Friday that with severe ethical,

bad ethical things they've done, but hanging out. Yeah, pretty much. It's a, you know, it's a weird lines comedy, I guess.

Yeah. What's the, what's been the most like confrontationally like tense, I guess, like the most tense guests to have on the show um for fortnight friday i think that like zachary levi was the one that caught me off guard because he's the one that like turned it that direction it's like he was like prepared to an extent oh like he like when i invited him on i think that like some people had like told him like oh he's gonna try to jump you

all right and so he was was on edge to start. And so when he brought up stuff, I was like, oh, well, now my whole train of thought is derailed because now I'm not going to segue into this. It's so funny to fall down an alt-right pipeline because Shazam 2 was mid. Yeah. The Zachary Levi thing is crazy because I liked Chuck.

Yeah. He said Chuck would have voted for Trump. Do you agree with that characterization, Chuck? I don't think so. I feel like Chuck... That sentence has never happened to me. That show ran off air so long ago. I feel like Chuck would have been like...

He's like millennial lived up. In the Chuck universe, Hillary won. Right, in the Chuck universe,ary won right in the chuck universe it wasn't a question she was cool and she was awesome and they hung out and he saluted her right and then his pants fell down or whatever i didn't watch that show madam president would you do you need help with your computer or whatever what was chuck about again he was like a secret spy but he worked at best buy he would be so lived up that he would be like, me, Madam President, we're going to a Hamilton show.

I watched that show so religiously and now I can't remember anything other than having a crush on Yvonne Strahovski. Whoa, pervert. Jesus.

I watched the show. I don't know what you're talking about. I wouldn't be a pervert. I would sit down and listen to her on the show. I don't know the context, but I agree. I would listen.

I just respect the frigging hell out of women. Jordan? Yes. When was the last time you needed to her on the show i don't know the context but i agree i don't listen i just respect the frigging hell out of women jordan yes when was the last time you needed to go to the doctor but made an excuse and pushed it off almost every time i've had to do it my whole life forever oh is he too busy um uh well kind of oh is it just a cough well it was just that but i really should have gone and he did have slots but i was being it's you know it was unclear to me booking a doctor's appointment can feel so daunting but thanks to today's sponsor zocdoc there's no reason to delay they make it so easy to book and find a doctor that's perfect for you and your needs zocdoc is a free app and website where you can search and compare high quality in-network doctors and click instantly to book one we're talking aboutquality in-network doctors and click instantly to book one. We're talking about booking in-network appointments with more than 100,000 doctors across every specialty.

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It's such a weird... Is this supposed to be L.A. River? This is from the Royalty family. I think that's a pool. The Royalty family? I think that's their name. This video has like eight million views i don't actually know the content of the video i saw the thumbnail and i was like well that can't be right you can't do that i just this is what's upsetting about this right it's like the same care

in in treatment applied to a terrifying night we'll ever forget with like uh what's the movie the ring girl is just like in the yeah it's like exactly the same vibe of like our city is on fire like talking about a tragedy and of course it gets more views um so one of the strange things is is that a lot of times it is these two in the thumbnail and that's this is the mom and that's her son. What? I'm fairly certain. Vibes off. Oh, I could have sworn they were brother, sister.

That was like my whole vibe. Yeah, siblings or dating. Pretty sure. Yeah. That's the optimal route for like a YouTube family is you don't know which ones are the sons, the father. I actually want to watch the beginning of this video because I just want to understand the tone. What I'm hoping is it's not a what's up, guys? Today we've got fires going on.

So we're doing a real life escape challenge. Give it like 30 seconds and I think it might get there. Dubstep intro plug in. Royal family. I think the fire is getting worse. Wow, guys, this is even worse than last night. The fire is spreading, huh? This is, sorry. Oh, my God.

It's so devastating to see the fire from our home. This is spreading out so fast. And thousands of people are evacuating from their home. I know, a lot of people are evacuating right now. We're just hoping that it doesn't spread too much this way. Or else we're going to have to evacuate as well. No, don't say that, please. You guys, this is so intense. Wait, wait, wait.

So this is like, I genuinely, until this episode comes out, I don't think I'm really going to confidently say whether or not I've talked about it with the sensitivity necessary or not. Because this is, like, the vibes are off. But I don't know if I'm the same. I don't know that they haven't said anything like i mean a fire could have just started right there and scared them yeah but i don't think their tone even indicates that they would even care that much beyond the content

they'd get out of it yeah i guess i can't i can't police how someone copes and grieves with like a situation like this but it's even this angle i have to say that it gives me the same like Dora the Explorer, like talking to children cadence with like, guys, this is crazy, guys. What the heck? It reminds me of Jay Station video. It reminds me of Jack Doherty. Yeah, I avoid that guy. You guys got some streams, dude.

I don't want to judge too quickly. Let's, but I. Even the yellow subtitles, maybe change it for this it's just like the mr beast do the subtitles go the whole video yeah okay that's better than them going the first 30 seconds like a cynical mr beast like video okay is it just like do you think part of it's just like this is the language of movie that's what he said that this looks like movie maybe i'm being um i'm not being fair but i think if you have the like time and safety to edit a video like this yeah it does feel weird doesn't it like like i wasn't posting really on social media even because i was just like

anxious and trying to focus on yeah you know being making sure everybody was yeah the immediate kind of social not that i'm like a saint of any kind but it's just like strange to me but that feels like the normal thing to do i would this at least okay can we at least look in the description and see that they're like donating to a cause i guess they are all right okay okay that's that's good it's a kindful all right. Okay, we do have a donate. Okay, that's good. It's a kindful way. All right, I have to watch more though because this is very interesting to me. Even the mayor of Los Angeles

has declared it a state of emergency and that's because there's a lot of fires going on. Even the mayor has declared it. There are big fires. Like, okay, okay, okay, okay. So if, okay, this is again, I don't think I'm being fair. Maybe this is small. but if i'm editing a

video about the fires i'm saying hey maybe we don't have the like splash in effect on the uh the pop-in effect on the text yeah it's like bouncing like i'm getting a minecraft like tip on a youtube short you know there's a disconnect with like if you have make content and like edit when like you see stuff like this that just makes the tone of it i think to us so much stranger because like this was even like the case with like not to bring up like stuff nobody gives a shit about but like the dream like response to like tommy in it even recently like he did where it's like edited and it's like there's music behind it I haven't even watched that it's very like

the tone is just like as someone that edits and like you know that like if you recite something and then you type the subtitles for it it's like you are

actively thinking about these things you think about the apology videos where you're like crying but like clearly trying to make sure that you look like sad

yeah and then the way it's cut after you're crying it's like you had to go back and and analyze this and you know how it'd be consumed as content there's the first like half a second right before not before they even do the sigh and the start it's just that like it was like a dramatic preview and it's like i don't know if i can do it yeah it's too and that's that's the sleight of hand right is like well this is just how our content organically comes up we feed the dvd into a machine and it comes out edited like this yeah but then we look at this and we go like wait i think i recognize that color grade plugin yeah that's like eerily what the hell

you know what's interesting is i feel like you could very cynically be like uh guys don't get on your high horse everyone grieves in different. Some people grieve by making a viral video. Some people grieve with revenue. I will say that, you know, credit where credit is due. I'm glad that they put a donation link in there. We're going to link to some causes you can donate to in the description of this episode as well. I do want to watch more, though.

We talked about this with, like, MrBeast stuff here and there as well, where, like, when we criticize this stuff, i'm not really criticizing it from a position of unless the video now there's like some huge ethical issue it the vibes are just so profoundly off yeah that i can't i'm like looking at it and trying to access that mindset it's like just it's like any it's like i'm having a compatibility error with my empathy center yeah you know what i mean they're speaking the same language but i don't understand all the animals that are trapped It's like I'm having a compatibility error with my empathy center. Yeah. You know what I mean? They're speaking the same language, but I don't understand. All the animals that are trapped, we're praying for you guys.

We have you guys in our hearts at this very moment. This is a tragedy. We're going to show you the fire from our backyard. It's pretty bad, pretty intense. They remind me of a family at VidCon like two years ago when I was in a hotel I walked to like the lobby that morning and there was this foreign family that was like filming their like their day they were obviously a family vlog channel I don't know how big they were but like they kept on like re-recording the same bit of like telling their kids we're gonna meet Mr. Beast oh they're like are you gonna meet Mr. Beast today they're like we're gonna meet mr beast they're like i'm gonna meet mr beast

and the one kid's like can we go to like disney and they're like oh mr beast like you're gonna see mr beast and i remember actually seeing mr beast that day and like going and was like did you meet with like a small like foreign family that was like really excited to see you and he's like i didn't meet anybody yeah he was like in the hotel all day i was like oh so that family didn't even get to meet mr beast the thing The thing is, is like, people can be like, because there's that clip of the Costco guys as well, where Adrian is like, nope, dude, that again. You taste it first, boom.

And like, again, as you know, people that know what the edit is like and trying to make things cohesive, it is silently work. He was right to kind of correct it, because it doesn't make any sense I picked the trick and made it you didn't fucking taste the thing

but this is where I'll have a tiny little bit of moral high horse I think you can break a child's brain doing that the authenticity of life just starts to show I'm not convinced that there's an ethical way to family vlog yeah no i agree i think that the way

society and like cultures like progress so fast that like like to be charitable it's like there is a disconnect between people that are even 15 years older than us that like don't understand the way social media and stuff can even impact a kid and like understand it. It's like maybe that like charitably it's like these people don't understand how bad this is. Yeah. I mean, I have to imagine that because the alternative is that they're like trying, they like know it's evil.

Yeah. And I just don't, I think I don't believe that. I think it's more just like, there's a disconnect. Like you said, I think they're cool. They're like full in.

It's like those incredibly beige families that we've like seen occasionally on online where it's just like hi me and my white dress and my husband and his beige shirt right and you're uh what's making everything from scratch we're making our own toothpaste today yeah we work at probably like an uncle's company. Right. I'm the heir to an oil fortune. My father, a steel magnate, is helping me out. So we built a PC. Let's just watch some more. Our furniture, as you can see,

it flew away. Look at the pool. The dirt went in the pool. They're so rich. It's wild to just... Look at the pool. They're so rich. It's wild to just look at the pool. I hope this didn't happen to everyone's pool. I'm here all the way to the very end. And you know what?

We can smell fire right now. And I know the ashes are going to start flowing away. But come. This has the vibes of like calling Pennywise at 3 a.m. That's what I said in j station video um and it's like i got kidnapped by chucky cheese look i'm doing perfectly well it's not like a wealth thing it's more about the like connection to like how something is gonna appear like oh my god the chairs fell into the uh infinity. Oh, no. We did. My six Bentleys have been blown into my helicopter landing. My landing pad is dusty.

There's ash all over my jet. We made a mistake this morning on sending the kids to school. I called the school. They said that they're safe, that they're open. But right now, I feel like the smell of fire is getting worse, the air quality is becoming really bad and I think that we should go pick up the kids

okay, if we pick up the kids, we should all pack together in case we have to evacuate oh my god oh my goodness the urgency isn't like, you can't this is a real emergency situation help

your kid pack put the fucking camera down and go pick up the kids if it's that camera on your three-year-old child trying to pick up something heavy even the way you said that was almost like we need to go get the kids so then we can film them packing we need to go do some like even go back 10 seconds like listen to the way he says that like it literally is just like and i think that we should go pick up the kids okay if we pick up the kids we should all pack together in case we have to evacuate like immediately cuts the footage of the kids packing like so like the way he said that was like foreshadowing that they're going to go get the kids so that they can yeah and i'm like that was like a small infant

packing i'm like hell if we're in an emergency i'm not waiting for the infant doesn't know what they're doing like let's see what how what the heaviest item is they could pick up yeah can you pick up your own coat how strong is my four-year-old because he's crying oh do you know what this is reminding me of and this is not the same severity and i do want to i i i do want to i'm still trying to give them the benefit of the doubt because i've seen one minute and 53 seconds of this video but um it kind of from a priority standpoint it reminds me of that like didn't jack doherty crash his like sports car yeah and he's like live streaming and then tell his like cameraman to keep filming oh it's even if you watch the whole thing it's even crazier where he like literally like he like gets in the car

accident and like he's still alive and like he's getting pulled out of the car and like he as he's like about to get pulled out and the guy's like the person who's saving him is like concerned like oh you just got in an accident 80 miles per hour on the highway jack's like handing him the camera and is like get the shot it's literally just nightcrawler yeah it's like has content broken our brains this much i don't think our brains i think some people i think it leads to it's like crazy because i don't even want to say that i'm like holier than now or like infallible to the sort of warping nature of it just should bother you. But I'm bothered, right?

It's why people like you or me or anybody, not to toot on a horn, but there is a level of authenticity that you can see in the content that the awareness that we even have of this is something that is appreciated. I cannot look. I am genuinely mesmerized right now.

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about it? So-and-so is that I, I hate the idea of it looking like I'm trying to be more morally tactful or something, or like I'm using PR statements, or I'm just like, Jacob, could I say that? Should we cut something there? Because it's like, nothing in content can ever be fully authentic, because you're probably projecting more, you're holding a fucking microphone. But this is insane this is such a strange way to imagine if i just sent you a clip just over text i'm just like dude this is i turned to katie and i'm just like these fires are going wild katie's freaking out

and you're just like yo connor look look we need to get look oh you're gonna cry dump out the suitcase we need to get clean b-roll me me taking the harness off the dog so i can film putting it on you guys the reason the fire is spreading is because of the high winds if there wasn't high winds the fire would be spreading this fast and the fire department would be able to contain it yo this reminds me of something uh there was a fire like one of the i don't remember the name for the fires that take the water the super scooper is that what it's called? I think so

so the like super scooper this is not fun a drone hit like one of those really? we were talking about this right? it was in transit and the drone was just filming like a drone hit one of the stunning pictures. How close Tom Hanks LA mansion came to being destroyed.

Oh, thank God. Yeah. That's stunning. Yeah. Super scooper. But, um,

it is the same kind of, uh, demonic to write that article. There's like a little bit of stunning right there. It's not really that stunning. Divine. Like LA, article there's like a little bit of stuff right there it's not really that stunning divine like la la county fire department posted super scooper grounded after drone strike that's which is like that sounds it sounds crazy it sounds crazy it's also like when a bird hits a plane it's called a bird strike but this sounds like a different thing yeah it is a different thing like a civilian drone was not

assigned to the fire and just hits it i i worry that somebody was trying to get the shot yes and it like so it like is impeding the fire department not what these people are doing this is just like connected reminded me that this happened it is just the i don't know maybe it may be the 10 million uh view revenue is overtaking this thought process for them but i feel like my self-consciousness in the most cynical reason i would not make a video like that would be that i don't want to look callous and i'm taking away like actual ethics or what i believe or what i would care about or how people would feel just because people would criticize me there's no way i would make like like us recording this right now i would not heighten my like did you see these fires what

in the freaking hell was it it would be like if we recorded the day that we canceled so that we could make sure everybody was safe and able to evacuate yes exactly or if like i went well literally when we were leaving my place just temporarily if i was just like fellas it's pretty crazy i was instagram live to show everyone all that time i was like checking in i i hate that it makes it sound like i'm trying to like be like holier than thou we were just being normal but it was like I was like texting friends and making sure

the people were okay you were asking me how where fires come from yeah it's so bizarre it's how I show I love you interesting okay

that was a moment of levity I was just in the car and I just sent you that text so what happens also from a video standpoint a little fluff right like hey this was rattling.

Here's some B-roll of this rattling. Get your kids. Go get the kids. Get your children. For now, let's watch the news and see where the fire is heading, yeah? Yeah. What about the children? Let's watch the news.

Phone in the car. Also, take your Christmas decorations down. That's the worst part of this. But I do know that we're going to be donating money to an emergency relief center i'm going to put the link down below if you guys are able to help that'd be amazing whatever we could do together to help out the people the music again it's like it's fine it's the language of it i get it but the piano music coming in the moment they're talking about something that is like virtuous but it's. I think it's not unethical. You're hating on the language of filmmaking.

Let's watch them watch the news. That are in need is very critical at this moment. And this is a good thing. You guys, four wildfires are burning in Southern California right now. As you guys can see, it's right next to Malibu, Los Angeles, Pacific Palisades. As you can see right here, governor newsome declares state of emergency let's get the kids from school and let's start packing and if we have to evacuate we'll have a black and white cut forward to b-roll like a reality tv show i'm like their lives are beside

myself dude it's just exactly if you i don't know it almost here it says palisades fire grows to 14 000 acres okay governor newsom declares state of emergency go get the kids fucking children oh my god that is i mean i don't know what the circumstances are and the kid i what could possibly be going on that they shouldn't just go and get the kids right now? Or if not, then like... Is someone bringing them there? It's funny that they can't even...

The news is doing what they're doing, but then the news is playing and they're just like repeating what the news is saying. Governor Newsom declares state of emergency. Even the mayor. Even the mayor declares. there are people that we know aren't close to but know that definitely have that like i am what i post mentality where you the way you act like personally your life offline, it does not represent who you are to yourself. Something only happens if you post it.

If you release the material of something, then that's who you are. Like it doesn't matter what your voice is like, what you act like, who you actually spend time with, the thing you put out. I think there is almost an ounce of validity even to that like mindset solely

because like I've kind of learned that like my job isn't like streamer or like youtuber like my job is connor eats pants yeah connor eats pants is me and so it's like the content that i put out is like representative like what i want to do creatively and like sort of who i am yeah so like that's i think why we it's easy for us to be so like critical of this is because like this is the same but but also like i felt i think that we all like if you're doing something cool or something that you want to share it's okay it's not like your brain is broken to be like oh let me take a photo of this and post it on social media i think it was just like a time and a place and it's kind of like a not right now moment is kind

of how i feel like this is like okay let's set aside yes the the persona thing because there's a more important i feel like it's so easy to like if if i'm a vlog channel and like i live in la people expect me to make a vlog about the la for sure you would i would post a video probably after like around now when like stuff's a little bit better in this environment it's a little bit like things are dying down and i would open the video with like some sort of like disclaimer of like hey this is what went down donate below and then if i'm gonna even keep the same tone of normal vlog have that be very well separated after an intro yeah like i do what i much of it is like look if

you do this for a living and you're in this circumstance and you really are committed to what you're doing you would probably go insane not making a video like every moment you would just be thinking about it if you're this you know there is a feeling of like i i've had the oh this would make such a good video and then you kind of have to go like okay but for who and for why in our case we are just like full name all of our content is typically us just on camera hanging out and then in the case of the individual channels it's a little bit more formative but it is still like sure presenting that version is there like do you ever feel conflicted about how authentic you do or don't want to be um or how much personal information is wider yeah i think

that like i used to like be really mindful of like personal information and stuff not that like i'm not now but like now that like i've lived and like and been in the space for a minute and like adjust like seeing so much happen to like friends and such like i mean i became like somewhat successful when i was like 19 but that was only after doing content you could say since i was like seven like when youtube came out i was doing like stupid little pokemon videos yeah um and but once it became like a job and like it was making money and it was my life then like i think that's when i started to learn things about like how i want to be perceived and how friends are perceived and relationships i make and carry online um i mean my like college experience was like moving to austin texas and like being on streamers um and so

i think that like what i learned is that the only way that i can make this my life and my job going forward is if i'm authentic and like and honest with myself as much as i can be or it's fatiguing yeah but being on yeah because i couldn't imagine like the feeling of like needing to be on and off and things like that um and so a lot of times it's like what you see is what you get but also a lot of that is streaming too like you guys don't do as much streaming but like when you're like cool we're drugs i get exhausted streaming because even the like the amount that i feel like i need to perform in a stream wears me out after a few hours i'm too anxious about that uh yeah which then i watch somebody else's stream i'm like oh you can just be like a person right every time i

every time i see hasan like eating on stream it like adds more points to the like okay you're like allowed to not like every moment of every yeah thing doesn't exactly so i mean that's i mean even like that disconnect is part of why like i don't usually use like face cam very much and like why like my streams are shorter than some other people like you know there's a space there that i personally need um other people i know maybe don't, but it... That's smart, though, to, like, recognize. Because I think one thing we've often talked about is, like, we kind of had, like, more corporate lives

before, like, pivoting into content. And obviously, we were working at Patreon, so we were, like, kind of, like, looking through the window at it. Very much consumers, all of it. But there's a lot that I can, like,

I can't imagine having to like go from like my, I always say like mom's basement to like just being a streamer and someone like you, Connor, I really respect because it seems like you found a way to like keep a good head about yourself and you would be a prime candidate for being one of those i am what i oh my god yeah like or a dude who can never turn it off like if if if you were somebody who like when the cameras are off you were like the exact same felt like an

on-camera personality it would be like people like that. Exactly. And it's like and those aren't bad people, but it's like sometimes exhausting to be around. Yeah, it's just how they are a lot of the time. Jordan, I got a question for you. Shoot. Did you know they're right here right now? You can watch us in video or audio on Spotify.

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yeah just spotify then maybe you've got the app the thing everyone in the world has and check us out on video if you get a lot of fulfillment out of like the i publish this thing so this is what people think i am and i like that you're also the people i know who have struggled with that and semi-self-aware about it also struggle with the well i published this and it misrepresents me and i'm like burdened by them yeah if i've got like a video and i'm like kind of in a character that i wasn't satisfied with i'm like yeah right that one somebody will see it either they'll never see anything else i made and they'll think that's me and it's okay because they're not looking at any more stuff or they watch other stuff and then maybe

your parts yeah and i don't know i was just like off that what do you attribute like i do think it requires like one foot in one foot out because if you i mean there's kind of stories of people who like go too hard and fast and that it just like burns up yeah like uh how do you like not lose sight of yourself especially like coming into do you like not lose sight of yourself especially like coming into content world like so young i mean i think a lot of it was like dealing with a lot of like mental health stuff even growing up like when i was like i missed so much high school like just from like anxiety and stuff and had to like kind of go to therapy and like mature and a lot of that early on um were you getting like uh official guidance and um diagnoses or was it just kind of yeah so

there was stuff like that like being diagnosed like on the spectrum like in high school was like kind of for like two weeks i thought it was like like the way i perceived it was like oh everybody else was like lying to me my whole life like pretending to be my friend and like i pictured like the you're a kid's example of like a kid that when you think of autism, I was like, oh my gosh, everybody's playing along with me or something. Everybody could tell. Everybody could tell. So there was a lot of that that I dealt with in high school.

Which is wild because people aren't that nice. Right, exactly. Or smart. Exactly. And in some ways I realize I'm actually a lot more socially conscious than most people in some instances. So a lot of learning about that I think helped when coming into this space. It was also something I always knew I wanted to do. So like I had like some knowledge of it because it's just what I like doing.

I like making people laugh and I like video games. I like editing. I liked doing all that. It's an interesting thing because like there's different schools of thought. But I think you approach something differently if you're like, I want to blow up and like make the bag versus I want to try to find a way to do this sustainably for a long time. Yeah, I think that a lot of people like my viewers joke about that with me a lot that like I kind of like nerf myself. But like I almost like don't take certain opportunities and stuff solely because like not solely because it would make me too successful but it's just like it's not me no but I get that I I there's certain like we've like there's lots of things that we've turned down

that just felt inauthentic to us because it's like the thing about me is I need to be able to live with myself and that's like I already have enough problems with anxiety, depression, and stuff that I don't need any other external – like if I were to take a gambling sponsorship, it would fuck me up at night. It would be a tangible thing to attach my anxiety to. If I'm having kind of a dread-filled night, I'm half awake, I'm coming out, and I'm just like, why did I fucking say that? What was I doing then? And then maybe the next

day i can rationalize that as well hey man don't like i think that person doesn't remember i think that like that does keep us grounded and keeps us more conscious of things than maybe other people so like it's you know it's not great that we deal with that but i also think it humanizes and keeps us more i yeah i mean there is a certain amount of introspection I guess required and understanding yourself and thinking of just not being on autopilot as nice as that occasionally which I think is probably like where the vices kind of stuff comes in

I feel like me replaying a game I have played so many times before or me rewatching a movie or a series that I watched before is my like the kind of stimulus that technically is just kind of shutting me down yeah that's like the get rid of the internal monologue if i can it's not really the like fulfilling i'm getting something do you guys

have that sensation sometimes where it's like actively frustrating to like yeah it's actually frustrating to have an idea or because you can't act on it like if i'm just in a really low like totally low i just can barely move kind of space and then i think of something i know i would enjoy but the space between that and me doing it is yeah yeah i struggle to get like anything started yeah that's really that's still tough for me there's a lot of ideas that i've been excited about but then time passes of inaction for me due to one reason or another and then i can no longer like get excited enough about that idea but i know if i struck like right when that excitement started i could have like made

something out of it like tesla it's it's almost like a like a carnival's come to town and i need to like you could have been great at rodeo right and then it's like oh no it's gone now i can't that's me even with like fortnight friday like i have like a main channel i haven't uploaded to in like years and it's like my plan was like okay well now that i'm doing this like content piece i'm pretty proud of that i can like package i was like i'm gonna edit these and upload these to like this channel again i still haven't done it but i've gotten the work started on a couple of them yeah it's like because it's bad yeah it's because it's bad because it's shitty because it sucks and i hate it i was gonna say that's probably why fuck you

well there's like i keep on like thinking of like okay if i want to do more with this and just make a stream highlight like what am i gonna do right and it's like then i you know i do just a lot of overthinking yeah i mean hey once you do it it, it's done. Welcome to the team. It is. I do think the psychology that we'll hold on to around like, well, what do I post on what channel is, it's one of those like letting perfection be the enemy of the good, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But it does kind of stay with you. If you're dissatisfied with it, it can really demotivate you from ever doing it again.

Because you're like, look, I tarnished my thing at the same time though my baby's ugly if i never made the extra channels i never i wouldn't post yeah you know what i mean so it's not like it's actually like a mental trick to like get myself to like actually publish yeah um you all get sued for having a chow is your logo? No, they're chill. Sega's super chill about it. You've got like a Sonic chain? Yeah, they like me. You have a Sonic-u chain? Dude, it looks like, one of them looks like it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have like, it's like super Sonic, and I almost wore it to the Stream Awards this year, and I was like, this just looks like Sonic-u. Yeah, you don't want to co-sign that right now. Dude, Sonic was my first video game. Sonic 2 on the Genesisesis i'm not that old but it just so happened that my aunt was sonic 2 on the genesis yeah my aunt had a sega genesis in

the uh closet my first game was dark souls oh three because i'm young right right it was the elden ring dlc right you were just bored i. I played it when I was a year old. A year old. I'm one year old, but I'm looking rough. I'm a long baby. Okay, I want to see how that video ends, and then we can... I can't believe you still want to watch this video.

I can't. Dude, I have to know. There is something about it. It is like watching a... It's like watching a car crash. How does it end? I got a video for you from Jack. They go pick up their kids from school.

Thank God. Let's do it. Dad, there's smoke outside. Dad, there's smoke outside. All the way outside. Yeah, there's smoke outside. We're gonna be- Oh my God.

Them in the car, just like. You have one luggage. No, this is Cher, you and I. All we need is one together okay let's do that you get your own okay deal yeah yeah no me and gucci get our own no way the dog's name is gucci there's no time to unpack that damn when you guys were uh when you guys were packing did you how did you decide what color suitcase these oh well my balenciaga was uh at the dry cleaners oh that makes sense the suitcase because yeah at the dry cleaners oh that makes sense suitcase because yeah because

it's all well somebody that makes less than uh five million a year touched it and that bothered me that garage is full of like uh like uh bikes and in atbs and shit yeah it's pretty cool i don't know how to ride them i don't have a license and i um i've got my cool i mean it's awesome that they're so successful. Congrats. It would literally... Shout out to the royal family. I mean, the royal...

I mean, they kind of live up to the name. You can't live in squalor if you're the royalty. I mean, I'm more involved with these than the royal family. That's true. This is my royal family. I'm more aligned. There's no incest. That's good.

Okay, so then do they end up evacuating? Check this out, you guys. The fire's already right there. This is a new one. And it looks like it's expanding a little bit. So we're worried about that one right there. We got to go. All right. We got to go.

It might be that time. Oh, Amber let you. Oh, yeah. So that's what we should. We should mute that so that someone doesn't get alarmed in the actual podcast. Yeah. So this is something that happened where everyone in los angeles got uh an alert everyone like everyone it was a mistake and so i was texting with you

and katie and i was like i think they made it must be a mistake and then we got a um another alert that was like it was a mistake sorry player oh just playing. Sorry, player. Oh my god, you believed me? This is so stupid. So it's five minutes of them going, I think we should go now. I can smell the smoke also. Alright, it says there's a fast-moving brush towards our area.

Every time they say they should go, I see them walking into the backyard again. Going back to the pool. Where's Abuela? That's fine, that wasn't Rube. Going back to the pool. Where's Abuela? That's fine. That wasn't rude. Again, this is good. I'm glad they're doing this. I'm glad they're doing this part.

Please try to stay safe. We love you guys. Stay royalty. We out. Peace. Stay royalty. That was something dude the king should say that should be like yo stay royalty guys all right i couldn't let go of that video and i apologize to you both um but now i want to get to like the important stuff which is uh elon is causing trouble he's he's made he's made a boo-boo in front of gamers everywhere but he

kind of embarrassed himself again well so what do we know about elon so he loves to tweet or x or whatever that's all he does he loves to jump make a funny shape he loves to jump and make funny shapes loves to chant the wrong way does not shut up about how he's top ranked in diablo yep and even talked about on joe rogan it's so embarrassing and then also that he's so good at path of exile to the point where he's streaming it now my recent hyper focus has been that uh this creator quinn and also uh crip creparian uh who i know from the hearthstone days uh like amongst the entire path of Exile community, high-level community,

has been watching the Elon footage of him playing the game and is ripping him apart because he for sure just bought someone to play on his account or just bought an account straight up. It's awesome. There's so many obvious signs.

It is so awesome. The least of which is that in Map Select, one of the options is Elon's map. Yeah. Oh, and then also maps. And then like,

so I'm not a POE guy, but I've been told that maps is not even the term. It's the POE one term. It's POE one term. And so now they're called like waypoints or something. Right. Like, and so,

and so it's clearly somebody who's like you know like a hardcore player i think what's awesome is like how obvious it is that he really wants to like be perceived as like a good gamer but like i think this also like retroactively makes his appearance him slash adrian's appearance of fortnite friday more likely him because it's like he was so conscious of like how good he would be at the game and like perceived and he sucked at it he took the wrong lesson

from his god awful Elden Ring build fucking dust do you remember that? yeah where he like he wore every piece of armor in the game he was basically doing a he was doing a build that looked like a like Iron Pine pineapple challenge mode

oh i only did slow rolling yeah i wanted to do a fashion challenge and elden ring yet were you trying to beat it i feel like that window is probably passed but that's such a freaking good idea that's more it would be more impressive than that uh chick that uses her neural pathways oh yeah dude yeah get one of those guys that plays on the rock band drums to do an Elon run. I can't do it. This is impossible. I want to try to find the clips of Elon

without commentary because it's so funny. Like, there's things that I don't even know anything about the game, but you could just tell he doesn't know what he's doing. There's one part particularly where he's, like, scrolling through his items and he's like oh level 62 yes

level 50 and they are optimal it's irrelevant the level of the gear if you play the game you know the the level is irrelevant right because there's all these like i can't remember what they're called but like all of these like extra all the modifiers modifiers they i have oh literally i have 20 hours in path of exile 2 uh because uh kraken made me feel bad for not having it so i downloaded it i dabbled a little bit it's it's the kind of game where like i was 10 hours in and i'm like i wonder i want to see what the late game is like like i just want to see it i like i'm never gonna be operating at a higher level because i'm not gonna pay anyone to play it for me theoretically but there is just some curiosity right like how much

does scale up and the number of like tiny little cheats little features not least of which is having an item filter active because your your loot inventory in this game is incredibly small and so if you're playing at a high level you need to be uh and there's like a syntax when you're like when you're doing like like when you're farming, there's just tons of loot on the ground. And it's like, I can connect this to like RuneScape. It's like you have item filters for the ground, ground items in RuneScape.

And so the concept of like. Because it's a loot gathering experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so him, and then like him. Okay, we can just find the, like can we just go to youtube and type in like elon being bad at path of excel it's just like such a miscalculation that i think can only come from being too insular you have to be too much you have to be too gamergate pilled

to think people would care about this what's awesome is he's gamergate pilled like eight years after the fact like everything about him is so behind like the way he talks about memes the way he does like like he changes him to like keck maximus oh yeah it's like like 2011 4chan your biggest fans were born after this yeah it's like i don't it's like he's trying to appeal to like at least a level 75 jacket uh isn't looking at the levels of the gear. Jacket. Tell us how bad the item that only drops from the highest difficulty of the hardest boss. Just tell us that it's only level 52. Did you find this at level 52?

That's impressive. He, like, calls it. I think he calls it. Level 52 here. It's like... I don't understand why he thinks he needs to like he's a fucking fraud bro he's a fucking fraud he why he needs to be knowledgeable about it or at least like like just watch i don't know 40 minutes of a video breaking down the late game so that you don't do things like click in the wrong location not put on item filters, accidentally.

He like drags something into his inventory. He's like, just if you're going to spend all this money, it's just, it is the least effort things he can do ever and that's spend cash. It's like those like rich kids that want to become rappers so they pay Yachty like $2 million for 16

bars. And he's like, yeah, I'll take it. I'm famous now. This rocks. People were saying this and I think it's's true it's like if he had just played the game regular people would be like oh yeah cool he's one of us yeah like just play the campaign like you would get a much better reaction than whatever this is from like people's from like people that like him's perspective be like oh here's elon playing he's a gamer like he's so busy all the time and he's taking time to game. Just the kindness. He's willing to... He really did pay $30 to get early access.

That's so brave. There's another thing with the stream where he goes, we've got a million concurrent viewers. Looks like the system's able to handle it well. He doesn't. He doesn't have a million viewers. The video itself has a million views and we already know x views are

like worth he doesn't even understand so even when like i so when i did the adrian ditman stream like when i talked to adrian the night before and he was like trying to like he went on this whole tangent talking about like x and the numbers and everything and was like i think part of the reason he wanted to do this show with me was because he was amazed that like that would ratio him every time. And he could not comprehend like how someone was doing that and what that meant. And it was like, Oh,

like you must be making like, he's like, how much money are you making on X every month? And I was like 20 bucks. And he, so he was, he just got off the tangent about how high my engagement is. I go 20 bucks and he goes,

Oh yeah, well that's because your engagement must be low. I was like, you just talked about how high my engagement is. I go 20 bucks and he goes, Oh yeah, well that's because your engagement must be low. I was like, you just talked about how high my engagement is. It doesn't make any sense. It's because he thinks it's merit based somehow. My theory is that part of the reason he's been so chronically online lately is because he is trying to turn X into a content creator platform and his best,

his, in his mind's best way to do that is to do it himself and to figure out what that looks like. So who do people respect the most? Me and my strange body? Yeah. Do you still believe Adrian Dittman is Elon? I lean more towards that it is or that at least I'm 100% sure that he is at very least like involved in something with them.

Is there any score likelihood that it's Elon? Yeah, I think it's more likely than not that it is him for a variety of reasons so what about this like guy in fiji that's named adrian so there's a guy in fiji named adrian dipman that has connected to elon already like he's like a tesla investor and like his tesla investor like twitter community or whatever and so my theory is that there is a guy named adrianittman that sounds loosely like Elon. Yeah. That Elon then ran his page to like be a creator.

And like everybody that's like an Elon worshiper is like in on it. And like already watches Adrian because they think it's Elon. Right. And so maybe they go back and forth on who it is sometimes. Okay. That kind of fits with the one theory I had when I watched uh there's a few times where it seems like the like the voice changes yeah where it's like it seems like a completely different guy he's he's so that one their first conversation the thing that just rocked me and made me such a cynic about it is like

adrian is specifically doing the kind of fanboy nervous laugh that i don't think elon has the performance chops to do but then everything aside from that one call it it just seems like yeah there's that one call or it's so much yeah it's just so much that it gets to a point where it's like I think I said this on my stream like it has to be it's like weird because

watching the stream though he like felt so much quicker on his feet than Elon ever is yeah in terms of even the speed that he was talking so then I just didn't know what to

think but also I get really bad secondhand embarrassment so I couldn't watch the stream for long periods of time part of him has this feeling of like in my mind that he has like a layer of safety behind

the Dittman name that like makes him more comfortable but also that like he thinks he's doing some avant-garde like artistry by doing this because even when I talked to him before he was like are we going to talk politics or something? And I was like, maybe. I talk about whatever on the show.

And I literally was joking to myself on the call where I'm like, it's like abstract avant-garde. And he's like, yeah, that's like what I do. That's like what I do. Massive gambit, sir. Yeah. So I was like, okay, interesting. But he thinks that what he does is in any way artistry.

Do you think he felt that way when he was cosplaying as his son? Yeah. Yeah, that was so strange. But that too, the fact that that is proven, it's like, of course this is that kind of guy. He admitted to it. And he doesn't. Well, I think, I mean, that really fucked with me. I kind of stopped thinking about that because there's just something deeply sinister about it that I won't like armchair diagnose but it's just it's creepy there's what's the fact that he did not out himself initially and he seemed content to just

pretend to be his son forever yeah that to me is like it's oddly egoless for him actually it's weirdly like uh he it'd be like if he did this whole day uh diablo or a path of exile thing but never said it was him he like was a different guy but i'm like he's too ego driven to not usually be like it was me i was adrian is there like i don't know if there's any like timeline uh conflicts but it does seem like it's it was more transparent that elon wasn't playing on his own path of exile account than the Adrian Dittman stuff, because you, Elon would be doing something at the same time that his character was online grinding.

Even when he died, he was like talking to like the German government or something. It's great. Cause he's just like, he's beautifully incompetent. Like you can't even get this line. Yeah. It's also a hardcore account where it's like you,

if you die, you you the character is over and that mode exists in a lot of games runescape that's usually my point of reference but it's so funny that he like barely knows what he's doing and he keeps bragging about how it's hardcore and so i'm surprised i don't think he died himself i think it was the person who's playing on his account died because he was doing something hours yeah yeah he was doing something at the time and so pretty funny pretty funny to just i i'd prefer it that way because otherwise yeah i wonder i think he just like he seeks the validation anywhere and he's not getting it in real life at all like at this point dude when you're the richest man in the world it's crazy to need the validation that's what's so interesting

about it mystique yeah i think you get away with a lot when you uh like very deliberately put up like he didn't know what he had i think yeah exactly i think he doesn't understand that like just being a richest guy in the world he already had this like for that better word aura that was like you don't know you were iron man because you didn't say when i was in college he was like people would talk about him with such what's the word that's revere but reverence reverence there we go uh people talk about it with such reverence to the point where i i've talked about this a number of times but like back in like 2017 I wanted to make a video about him but I was afraid because of how much because my audience was very tech at the time and I knew that I would just get a ton of like pushback on it and so I think I

because it would be critical video in some ways yeah because I would be making fun of them and I was like afraid to make fun of them because of them alone because of how animated people get i i lightly criticized them a few different times before that and it would be the type of thing that all the comments in the comment section but come about and it was like that kind of stuff was like i need to get out of the tech youtube bubble because this is like this is not my these aren't my people to seek the approval of um how do i say this uh the worst people in the world yeah is such a weird mission to take to because you to serve that audience to serve his blue trek homies he's gonna have to constantly up the ante and pivot to what they like right now and usually what they like is stupid bullshit yeah

it's not like fun to get involved in gamer gate hobbies yeah i don't know if you've ever seen the video of um like luka donchik who's like uh you know one of the best players in the nba plays for the dallas madrigs also plays overwatch and he's like like in like one of the top like 500 ranks for like his role right yeah he's a tank player or or like uh lebr in like one of the top, like 500 ranks for like his role. Right. And yeah, he's a tank player or, or like, uh, LeBron is one of the top players in Madden randomly, but, but I watched the starting five doc. Oh, I saw, okay. There's these interviews, I think with, um, maybe Austin Reeves or somebody else in the

Lakers were like, what's something about, oh no, it was, uh, with the, the rookie Dalton connect. Uh, they were like, what's something about LeBron working with LeBron that people wouldn't, uh, wouldn't know. And it's like how much he plays Madden. Like he's always talking about football. And then you, I watched the starting five documentary on Netflix and most of the time that he's like relaxing, he's people are around him at house having a good time. He's like locked in on a game and then he'll post he'll be like had a good conversation with this guy like played him on the madden and so and then you find out that he's like one of the top like couple hundred people in the madden servers and it makes sense because it's like all he does at this time

that's not basketball he is like a mastery guy like his mindset football he was like you know could have gone could have gone with either sport but it was like go straight into the league or like go to college and play football i think it was like the connective tissue between that lebron and elon there is that like i think gaming is such an escapism for your brain when like there's so much input in other areas like not to like oversell how hard elon's life is but like certainly there's a lot of input and lebron has like a lot going on around him. When you're playing a game,

it separates your mental from some things. I learned in the Starting 5 documentary, I learned Anthony Edwards plays for the Minnesota Timberwolves. He's a star player, very good. He plays a lot of Fortnite. Oh yeah? Yeah.

But not on Friday. Yeah. I prefer people that don't play a lot of Fortnite because so oh yeah yeah but not on friday yeah i almost like i prefer people that aren't that don't play a lot of fortnight because then they get a new account and then i get like bots to play against and it makes the games better yeah you have me on fortnight friday and uh i'm just like in a really bad mood it's just really awkward i'm just like you make you make a joke yeah okay i wanted to do this this isn't related to that but i i wanted to do one before the election where like i got like three like gen z political influencers so like like a dean withers

like a beau loudon who's like a who's like friends with like uh baron trump that was like a right wing influencer and then the idea was like an rfk guy in the nba get baron trump in there he's like yeah but he was like i get i get a full squad of like political gen z influencers and like they're all debating and i'm like guys like there's a squad it's like it's a jubilee video but inside of fortnite exactly this is the work george yeah maybe in four years that's so funny yeah dude we can get uh hopefully biden runs again yeah right bones i vote for hunter. I want Hunter on Fortnite Friday. Dude, I think we can get him in.

I think, okay, so we're going to wrap up here and head on over to our Patreon podcast, Sad Boys Nights, where Connor's going to spill the tea about all the Fortnite Friday guests. We're going to get more Elon conspiracy theories, as well as I really do want to hear about working with AJ and Big Justice.

Wait, did I say that right? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, okay. Because it feels weird to say bj yeah right um but connor dude thanks so much for for joining us is there anything that you want to plug or talk about i mean just like check out my twitch and youtubes and stuff like i'm just connor eats pants on everything um you know you can you're fine do you reckon I could get banned? On like what? That's like a challenge I've been doing lately is getting banned in

friends' chats. Oh, in my chat? Yeah, how strict are you? Do you reckon I can get in trouble? I only mod people that don't want it, so it's not as difficult. That's very hard. Like, one thing I really hate on Twitch is like, chats where it's really like lovey-dovey, or like, the mods seem like they're way too

into it. So every single person that I modded I was just like out of the blue. I was like you're a mod now and they're like I

don't want to. I don't want you to mod me. I want to get banned for being cheeky. Yeah I mean just like post like

pornography or something. Yeah. Too easy. I'm going to post your SSN. Post a lat long it's your like

current location. See my SSN not to keep on intangible podcast but like a few weeks ago like i just was like you get like a vocal stem sometimes where you just are saying something like a song stuck in your head yeah i was like muttering my ssn that's so funny mother's maiden name i was like oh i should not do this i mean hey it's leaked out there now so we're're kind of screwed. Yeah. Can you guess it? If you're able to get my SSN, 20% off all future merch. We will see you at the Capitol on January 6th of next year. The discount code is his SSN.

No, stop. Okay. We had every episode established with a particular phrase. We love you. And we're sorry. Boom! Have you been watching the Mr. Beast show? No, I have.

I was waiting for it all to come out and then Ben to watch it. Can you guess how Mr. Beast would open a show like this? He's like, I bought $40 million to set, and here, and the camera goes wide, and then... I am standing on $5 million of real money. That's awesome. He should have just done, like, could have just done like Amazing, The Amazing Race, but with like 20 creators. What's the most amazing race? Season 12.

Wow, actually the perfect answer. Phew. Future girl, future girl, yeah we are now. Take my money, go away, all you wanted. Go to rich for me.