Sad Boyz - The Misogynist Doodler

Episode Date: May 16, 2026

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May 28th, a very sad boys' birthday live streaming directly to you. Live.com. Live.com. Bring a gift or something. It's online. You cannot. You don't do that. Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also.

I'm Jarvis and Jordan Six. So we are joined by a very special guest, Zay Dante. Yay! I was like thinking about how to describe you and it's like, okay, musician, comedian, multi-hyphenate, you know, actor, writer. wrote fan fiction about Phineas and Ferb

And no one will ever find that No one will ever find it But it does exist If you're real They'll search for it It's been So like you Started on TikTok

Right And like and you And you've been Like we've known each other I want to say for Going on four fourish Plus years now

Yeah Four years I remember We met because Our mutual friend Michaela I had moved to LA and then the world immediately shut down. Yeah. And then all of, basically I had no social circle.

And when things were starting to open back up again, I was like, does anyone want to hang out? And Michaela and I had been mutuals for years, but had never met. Yeah. And you know, Michaela, she like does that. Yeah, yeah. And then she was like, hey, come to game night. And then game night used to be at your old apartment. Yep, yep.

And that was the same scenario I met Michaela on there. It was like, okay, we should hang out. So, yeah, it all really came together well. Yeah, I can't believe it's been four years now. I was talking to Maria about that because we were, I still sometimes get La Pergoletta that Italian plays. Yes. And there's a story there. I think about that every single time.

And I texted Maria about it. She was like, it is crazy to think that was like almost five years ago. I know. That's insane. Oh, man, La Pergoletta was so good. It's really. Hey, I stand by it. Zay, you were going to be here anyway.

But this is a great, you're a great fill in because our other connections. connection is podcasting related. I did your and Maria's podcast for Root Girls. You sure did. And that was when I had like seen Jacob in passing, but Jacob like is like moves in silence like lasagna. Yes. So true.

Real Jesus movement of silence. You know. So like we hadn't really interacted. But seeing Jacob in action producing Broke girls podcast, I was like a light bulb goes off of my head and I'm like, I need that. Yes. We need that. And then and then.

It just so happened that Jacob was available to take on more work. That's so awesome. And now we've been working together for, is it three or? Yeah, like just over three years now. That's so crazy to think about. Yeah, Baroque Girls was such a crazy tie. It was a podcast that I did with my friend Maria, who we just brought up. And yeah, I just remember we just did that.

So it was so random. Like, looking back on us like, dang, I don't know where like that I did. Like, why would we want to do it? because it was about, uh, it was about, uh, it was about, like,

uh, it was like, like young adult living alone in the city. Yes. Finance also, but like, hey, I want to live a normal life.

I don't want to like be like, I need to buckle down and like eat like saltine crackers. Exactly. Yeah. And Maria's like just so smart at all those things. I feel like, I'm like such a like, I'm a person who hops on to different things.

I feel like she was like, I want to do a podcast about this. And I was like, oh, I am dad. Yeah. Let me support that. type of person that you could like walk into a room and she has like a solid gold orb.

Yes. And you're like, so where did you? Yeah. Oh, I just got it. Oh, I went to this place and I like went and I like searched here. Yeah. It's like, yeah, I do that. People do that on weekends.

It's like, what? Yeah. She's so awesome. Value a billion dollars, I think. So I'm going to be moving out soon. I found my new gold orb. Yeah. Well, we did that.

We did that for a little. How long did we do, do, bro, It was like... I think just over a year. It's just a wow. I mean, it's... I thought it was like really good conversations, really valuable. And definitely like something that our audience would really find like relatable and like useful.

Yeah, such a fun show. Such a fun show. Yeah. Go check out Jarvis's episode too. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. That was awesome. But yeah, so since like TikTok, you've obviously like came to L.A., you're from South Carolina.

I'm from South Carolina. Yes. And four three represent. And so, like, you come to L.A. to, like, live the dream. And were you a theater kid growing up? Yeah. I was like, I got that. Yeah, I think we'd probably talked about it.

It's not just a vibe. Yeah, fully, fully. I went to school for theater. I did musical theater. I started doing theater in 11th grade. And I've also, like, met theater, friends of yours from back home who come out here. Yeah, like, all moved out here. Everybody does comedy now.

I mean, they do a mixture of musical comedy here and, like, comedy. But, yeah, out here, I'm, like, most of, you. Mostly in the comedy world, but yeah, theater still. I just had a theater night the other night. Me and me and a couple friends, we watched Wad of Sondheim, and we watched next to normal. It was amazing. So you started on TikTok. You come to L.A., South Carolina, theater kid, but you are a, you know, you're a multidisciplinary artist, I would say.

And so you start dropping the comedy music, and it's obviously we have, you were an incredibly talented artists. We know so many incredibly talented artists you work with for like visuals and stuff. Yes, yes. I don't say Cassius. But, and so now you've got your debut project dropping. Yes, yes. And when is this dropping?

Today, it's a Pete Friday. So this will be dropping on Friday, which is the launch day of your pod, right? Or your album is. Sorry, I think of everything in terms of podcast. So you're saying it's like a podcast, a musical podcast. A musical podcast. You know, we put a lot of beats there, but, you know, we're still talking to a microphone and things like that. I can get on board with this stuff.

But yeah, it's out now. So, yeah, go check it out. What's it called? It's called Taste. And it's, yeah, I'm so excited that it's out. I've been working on it for like a year. You've already got visualizers, music videos and stuff on, like, Zadante YouTube. Do we have a, like, cover image?

Oh. Can we see it? Yes, yes. I'm just curious to see. Because I've also been hearing from Jacob. Yeah, there it is. Well, little reveal y'all are roommates. Yes, yes, yeah.

Jacob gives us little updates. And it's like, I've, been hearing about all of the work going into this, which sounds amazing. Yeah, it's going to be super exciting. I mean, Jacob is doing the lights for the live show that we're doing today, which is, this is, yeah, that's so crazy. I'm excited. It's going to be super fun.

Yeah, cash-as. I guess if you're in the L.A. area, did our tickets still available for that? Tickets are still available. Yeah, yeah. If you're in the L.A. area and you would like to come this night. We'll probably drop, like, in the afternoon, Jacob, would you say? So if someone's like literally listens when this comes out. Yeah, yeah.

Pull up. Plus minute plans. Yeah, last minute plans. The last minute plans pull up to Sassafrasaloon at 9 p. The show starts at 9. Doors are at 8. Pull up. Tickets are online there.

Link in my bio. Yeah, we'll have link in the description too, at least for the first day. It's going to be exciting. I mean, yeah, we got so much cool stuff playing for the live show. I think it's going to be really, really fun. It's going to be such a good time. Speaking of cool live shows and a lot of work going into stuff, we've been working on a Savoy's live show.

It's all live, live studio show, basically a fancy live stream. It's going to be a variety show, including musical performances. by Zay and Dante himself. So get acquainted because you'll be seeing a lot of them. Pull up, pull up. One of my new favorite athletic shows of mastery is the Scientology speed runs. And I feel like we didn't break news about this, but we did talk about it early on. Yeah, yeah.

And Jacob brought this up in our pre-production. And so now I'm like, what's the update? There's something new happening. I know that they've started closing. They started closing. the last thing that I saw from it and I thought that was so funny. I thought it was very funny. I thought it was funny when people were talking about how they're mapping it.

Like somebody like made one of those like floor plans based on what they've seen from the TikTok videos. Yeah, yeah. And they're talking about it like they're doing speed runs. Like all right guys, this is how much we've mapped to the map so far. The first one was like right at the end of March beginning of April. It went viral on TikTok. There were several like copycats. It was like people, it became like a thing.

We are a legion. Yeah. And then in late April, so it's been going on for a couple weeks, people are doing these like speed runs, mostly at the Hollywood Scientology Center. Yes. Seeing how far, how like deep into the building they can get. In late April, LAPD opened a hate crime investigation. Oh, my God.

Into people's speed running. because Scientology is, I think, legally a religion. Yeah, okay. It's tough with Scientology, if I'm being honest, man, because I like to think of myself as very open-minded. I think of myself as very accepting. But I cannot. There's an incontrovertible fact about Scientology

and that it was created by a science fiction writer based on a science fiction books. I'm also like a hate crime. Okay, if your hate crime is people running through your building, I don't know if you know what a hate crime is to me criminal trespassing. Best I can do is criminal trespassing. Can you take that? Can you take that? Take that. If you're going to find me on it, then I'm also going to take that away from you. Because hate crime, this is not. This is not a hate crime. And trust me, these teenage white boys have maybe seen a hate crime or two.

They've been in a Fortnite lobby, you know. They also, for the most part, have stayed in pretty public parts of these buildings. Right. They're not really areas that you couldn't get into just by saying, hey, I'm interested in Scientology. Yeah. What happened to the word prank? What happened to these teenagers are doing a prank and just having a good time?

We're jumping straight to hate crying now? See, my, yeah, because I have a potentially controversial stance on pranks, which is that I'm anti-pranks that are punching down. Yeah, yeah. Just like I'm anti-jokes, they're punching out. But there's not enough slurs being thrown around to qualify. This is a hate crime to me. There's not enough destruction of property.

Gun to my head, I cannot name a slur that would be applicable. Like, does feel like maybe a hate crime is not happening. No, no destruction of property in any sort of way. In fact, they're getting caught and immediately leaving. I'm like, that can't be a hate crime. Like, dressed like a church usher who is guiding them out the door. And then they go out the door, like they're on rails in like one of those like runner games. I'm like, y'all, I just don't think y'all have experienced hate crime.

And if this is, if this is a hate crime to you, there's a dark world in front of you. I'm like, I have horrible news about hate crimes at large. Exactly. Like, where you got to do some research into how bad it can get if you think it's this bad because I'm sorry, this is, this is not a hate. I've been hate crime before. Because if you said this is a hate crime, period, this is just like blank. Anything you fill in that, Blakewood is going to be worse than the suicide downs on these

Friberts. I'm like, I just don't know if I can get. Now, listen, if, and, and I'm trying to be, I'm trying to be fair. I try to be fair. I get, it's probably annoying. Oh, for sure. I get it's probably, no one wants to be trespassed upon. Right.

I'm not, I'm not even sitting here saying that like, oh, that, oh, and they should just get over it. I'm not saying that. I'm saying let's not over exaggerating. They're doing too much with it. Right. Now I don't believe you. This is not the first time that Scientology has weaponized their status as a religious organization. A, they become tax-free.

They don't get taxed. And B, because then they can claim any action against them is persecution. It's meta. It's a perfect, come hither my children. I mean, it's a perfect way to insulate yourself from. valid criticism. Also, I just want to say, because you brought up before that he was a Scientologist. Of course he was.

El Ron Hubbard was a science fiction writer before he became a church creator. It is in writing that he said the best way to become rich in America is to create a religion. Yeah. He basically was like, watch this. And then he was just like just lying on like a bag of money. Wow. There is so much evidence of him coming up with this idea. Yeah.

And then executing it. Elron Hubbard, a white guy, right? Yes, yes. Black name. Also. Black name. Elron. That's a, that's a.

Elron. Elron. I know what you are, buddy. I know what you are, buddy. And this is why you think it's okay to claim this is a hate crime. I was like, and that's a hate crime. Yeah. Before he started Scientology, sorry, I know too much about this,

religion. I don't know about Titexia at all. This is, um, yeah, this is, there's plenty of documentaries for those. There's so many good documentaries about it.

But, uh, going, read going clear also. And there's also like, that one's about airports. I think I've made that joke every single time you said that,

by the way. He, before he started Scientology, he was super into chaos magic. Oh, see, now he needs to write for advanced

Duns and Dragons. I mean, kind of. Damn, he was just a few years too early. He was very into Alistair Crowley. I don't know. Who was a creepy

writer who loved to talk about chaos magic and sex magic where it's like you can become rich and powerful by doing horrible things, essentially. And it's like, yeah, that's true.

It's a big pet peeve of mine. The people act like that's a life hack. Yeah, I know. Do you remember that unethical? life hack trend on TikTok where it's like it's just people realizing that like we as a society have to operate in good faith and that our fellow person is not trying to trick us or scam us and stuff and if you betray that social contract it is profitable it's like yeah it's called being a bad guy it's like just because you can doesn't mean you should right right for sure for sure I was I was

also thinking about something about with the sides of is that I'm like, it kind of feels like we're starting to get into a world where it's like, kids can't do nothing no more. Like, kids can't, like, we're taking away all like the places where like kids are able to like hang out. You can't go nowhere to hang out. You can't do a prank no more that has genuinely, I'm just, this is just not a hate crime. I'm sorry.

This is just not a hate crime. I don't know where that like, where that ruling is going or if like there's, it's going to be looked at in court or whatever. But I'm just kind of like, okay, so the kids, can't hang out no more. They can't do pranks no more. There's no where to hang out. I just found out from my friends with young kids, no one does sleepovers anymore. Sleepovers are considered

a no-no as a parent. Whoa, I don't know what these kids are going to be like when they grow up. That's where you first get to talk about life. I would learn what other people ate in their homes because of sleepovers. Like it's a learning experience. I don't know that your friend is rich until you see their perfectly stocked pantry. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, damn, y'all got the name brand goldfish?

Yeah, yeah. Little debbies. There's nothing like going over to a friend's house and finding stuff that you don't have. And you're like, oh, I was never aware that this existed outside of a store. I remember walking into, I was asleep over. I walked into a friend's, like, cupboard. And I was like, I'm standing in a room of food. The fact that this room is big enough for me to just stand in there and close the door is crazy.

It's truly insane. I think that was when I figured out people had Xboxes. Yeah. I was like, oh my God. It's a secret they were keeping going to. I was like playing video games you would have never played. Right. Watching like, well, I think Pirates of the Caribbean, because I wasn't allowed to watch anything demonic or anything like that could have been like that.

So I wasn't allowed to watch Titanic Panic type stuff. Yes, exactly. Which was like, I think it was just because that. That dude had an octopus head, homeboy. The dude who's famous. No, for sure. That's scary. Yeah, I was like, but I watched it as sleepover, and I was like, wow, this is cool.

And actually, actually, I think I do remember I was kind of like, I'm kind of scared of this actually, so maybe my parents got this one right. I would have nightmares. I was like, wait, all right. But I should have been able to. Very adult child. Be like, low key, I'm terrified. Yeah.

I'm like, hmm, I need to keep it together for my aura. For sure. And also it was also like, I don't know how much of this is religious based or also maybe my mom was just scared of it too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're just not watching that because I don't want to watch it. We're just not an octopus family. There's like too many appendages. I'm not feeling.

I'm like, that was some terrifying stuff. But yeah, I just. Shout out to a different racist, uh, HP Lovecraft. Wow. Cthulhu ass head. Yes. Oh my gosh. Quick correction.

Elron Hubbard became friends with Jack Parsons who created. Jet Propulsion Laboratory. JPL. They were both followers of Alistair Crowley who created something called the Ordo Temply Orrentus, which is kind of like a chaos magic, sex magic cult.

And they were... And so no one can have sex except for with you. It's always like those type of things. Right. Hmm, interesting. What's going on? In the late 30s, early 40s, they were having these like orgies and blah, blah, blah, blah. and doing this magic and, you know, starting a cult together.

And then Elron Hubbard defrauded Jack Parsons of his entire life savings and ran off with his wife. Whoa. And that's when he's like, now that I have this money, I'm starting my own religion. This episode, Sad Boys, is sponsored by Delete Me. Right now, there are sneaky little data brokers that are legally, legally collecting and selling personal information. We're talking names, addresses, phone numbers, relatives names to anyone willing to pay for that information. And that exposure opens you up to scams, fishing, identity theft, harassment, doxing, pretty much any digital crime under the sun. Delete me is a subscription service

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Stay yours. Thanks to the leaving for sponsoring this episode. The one other thing you should know about Scientology, if you should know anything, is the head of Scientology is this, is it Henry Miskavage? No, it's David. David Miscavich. And his wife, Shelly Miscavage, went missing like 20 years ago. Okay. And she is still missing to this day and they don't talk about it. She has not been in any way declared as dead.

It is very strange And if you ask them point blank Where is Shelly Miscavage They're like Leave us alone Yeah All this to say Yeah it's crazy

Y'all need to get over letting them kiss Yeah Y'all have so much stuff going on That you need to get figured out You have so many skeletons in the closet You like deserve a little bit of mischief The kids can run through your building

Dog get over it I don't understand Part of this story is that So like it's a very hard harsh system, if you do not do what you're told, you're kicked out. And being kicked out means that you are also shunned and disowned by your friends and family. Don't they also go world. They make your whole world the religion. They do the cult thing of like your money flows through them. Yes. And then like your your mental health services, your job.

They are your apartment is owned by them. Yeah. And you're not paying rent, which is like, such a great deal. Wow. But you've got to do shit for them. And they like got you your job. Oh my gosh. So it's, you know who did the,

who else? You know who else did this? Fire Lord Ozai in the Avatar comics. Yeah. He did this to, he did this to Arsa. If you haven't read,

you need to read the, the Avatar comics. That is what Fire Lord Ozai did. This is a good comp. Yeah. I'm like, you should never have similar traits to Fire Lord Ozai.

Yeah, that's a good. It's a good. It's a good. like moral question. Yeah. Is it weird that my first, when you said that, my first instinct was like stop the ground and kick a piece of dirt.

I don't know why. I like can't do that. I like can't earth bend. But I was like, damn. So a lot of, so the heads of the organization told their followers to report a lot of the content around these speed runs as pornography. And that's another common tactic that people do in, to abuse. the TikTok system is a lot of the creators got banned from TikTok permanently lifetime ban

nah this is and then you know how TikTok is where like they don't have enough humans working to like really get things done wow that sucks especially if you're not in established creator you don't have a partner manager you don't have like a team that sucks i've had multiple friends like get their TikTok accounts banned and then have no recourse to do anything yeah yeah Yeah, yeah, that's happened to me a couple of times. And it's, like, I thankfully have a team now. Yeah. Like, I'm in my sixth year of content creation.

This is my first time, like, having a team who would actually be able to do something about that if that happened. Before it's like, you get suspended. You can try to talk to them people, but it's automated. It's automated. So it's like, good luck. You know, there's been times where I've just been out of work for months, for months on in because it's just like, well, I can't get out of like I'm just, I'm done.

You know, like they've just kind of cooked my account. It's like you're not allowed to log into your job. Right. It's like when you get fired and they take away your like access to the email. But like you're supposed to be working for yourself. Yeah, yeah. You're supposed to be. Exactly.

And you fall most of the time you did follow the rules. Exactly. Yes. Exactly. Exactly. It's unfortunate. There was this one incident in in Hollywood where a lot of people did it sort of at once. Oh, Lord.

Whoa. So it was a sort of like, it was a lot of people just sort of... I'm immediately laughing. I'm sorry, I really can't find the danger of a problem. They're so ordinary. And there's funny costume. This is hilarious to me.

It is funny because they're all lightly jogging with no plan. With no plan, lightly jogging, simply walking through that room. And these are teenagers. And so after this event is when they sort of shuttered their doors. They took all of the door handles on. They blocked off the windows. You can't see inside anymore.

Did they do it with that weird fog thing in the, yes. Yeah. Can we'll quick, at the top of this video, what was it like the Jesus Avengers or what did they, what was it the name of this? Is this like a different religious group? Are we witnessing some form of religious warfare?

Wow, okay. Jesus and friends. Oh, I think it's just because he's in costume is Jesus. Best possible outcome. Best possible outcome. Jesus and his friend Sonic the Hedgehog. This is like one of the first times in a while I've seen any one in like my generation or younger like create community amongst themselves.

Yeah, 100%. I'm like, I feel like we don't see like we don't see this happening because there's not a lot of opportunities to. I'm like, y'all, y'all got to let them for the good of for the good of the world. Let them run through the building. Yeah. At least let them have some form of siege. Right.

Exactly. Like let them run through the building. I don't know. This is just not. Y'all aren't there. y'all are not like i don't feel bad those buildings so empty too it's so empty and they're mostly running through like stairways and stuff like that just get them out i'm pretty sure on the front of this building even after they locked it up it says like all are welcome or we'll see about that

clearly not says shadow the hedge and you know what and this is how you know what and this is how you know this is how you know this could have been a very good PR move for scientology and they're clearly not and They could have been like, let's try to, let's hand them some books on the way out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? But no, instead they're going straight to hate crime. I don't trust you. I don't trust you.

What are you hiding? On May 1st is when it went global. So in Sydney, May 1st, Sydney Australia, teenage boys speed run, the Sydney Scientology Building and... Let us in, yeah. They were citizen arrested. Oh, that's... By the staff, I think. By the staff.

And so then they were, then they, the police showed up. They were officially arrested. That's a fancy way to say tackled by the staff. Right. Yeah. Does that, that's interesting because if I work at like a 7-Eleven, I'm not supposed to follow somebody who stole like a bag of lays or whatever. Right. Yeah.

And like this or if you work at Target or something, you're not supposed to put yourself at risk. These people are like risking life and limb to stop a 60 year old. Also, what are you doing when you arrest them? Because they're going to ask, what are you doing here? and they're going to be like wrapping out the building. Speed run. Did you have you,

are you not on TikTok? There's nothing deeper than that. So I don't understand. It's truly there's nothing deeper than that. Yeah, exactly. It's like, all right, you caught me. This is when,

this is when you let me go and then I add to the map and then we do it again next week. There's nothing. It's like, yeah, this is the circle of life. Just let it go. Let it go.

Move on. I'm activating the tower in breath of the water. Right. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Uh, yeah. I mean,

And they, they, I mean, clearly Scientology doesn't care about looking good and whatever, especially from their origins, but they've also now annoyed me. Yeah. That's another thing. Also, I'll say it. Scientology sounds like a name that a writer would come up with for a fake religion. It does. It does.

It does indeed. And like the most basic name that you can possibly do, too. Like, it's basically like religion entity. Yeah. Like, nah, that's, that's annoying to me. Well. So a day later, there were Scientology speedy run rides in New York and this one in Vancouver. They're a polite raid.

Even the thumbnails just be making me laugh. Yeah. All these people gather here for them. Oh, there's so many people. The music. There is a big one in San Diego, Brisbane, Seattle, another one in Brisbane. In Australia, they're making a lot of arrests. Damn.

Oh, Australia. Come on. I know. Let them go. Actual arrest. Are they, are they, like, are they arresting them and then letting them go immediately? Or are they, like, getting charges? I don't actually know.

Because I don't know what the carcule system is like in. Well, because I feel like I can see Australia being, like, arresting, like, being hard on, like, arresting them. But I feel like they would probably be like, oh, just go. Like, this is like, it doesn't matter. You can't just walk into the, yeah. You can't just walk into the Scientology building, you know. In Seattle, there were three people who were charged with second-degree burglary and hate crime offense. Come on, bro.

Free them till it's backwards. No, literally, like, are you kidding me? Australia, you were not allowed to Australia? Wait, well, this is Seattle. Oh. This one is in Seattle, yes. Okay, nobody, no, no, no. That's what I expect from America.

I'm like, I expect that from America. Get arrested and they will charge you with something stupid. Yeah. I feel like in Australia, then maybe they'll arrest you, but then just let you go. Okay, yeah. Classic America then. The concept of a citizen's arrest is so funny. Yo.

At the scientist. Isn't a citizen arrest if they work for the scientist? I didn't mean you were a cop. Heed my warning. And they're still going. In the last week, there have been more of them in Australia, Belgium, Canada, France, Germany, Netherlands, Switzerland, UK, and US. It is funny because it is like that you can't catch all of us. Yeah.

And then the original guy who posted the video of him and his friend doing the Scientology Speed Run, he was interviewed by CNN. And he's basically like, I recommend people stop doing it because there are like very real consequences now. But I think it's still hilarious. And you know what? That's the thing. It's like I can't advocate for someone to break a law or do a crime or whatever. For sure. Look, Your Honor, I'm just laughing.

As the adult in the room, it's like when you get called into like the principal's office or whatever, and the principal is like, yo, your kid did this thing, but the thing that your kid did was super funny. You got to be like, yo, man, you can't do that. On the way home, though, we are going to get ice cream. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a really, really funny. Son, that was hilarious. That was hilarious.

And you are in trouble a little bit. Yeah. Hey, man, you're grounded, but we are, we'll watch TV. We'll watch you together. We're still cool. Yeah, like honestly, don't even, like, kind of shake this one off. You like fist bump and he's like, you're grounded, but. Yeah.

I had a moment like that with my dad when I was in third grade, because my third grade teacher was horribly mean to everyone, and she got mad that we were trading Pokemon cards in class. And we did it again at recess because we were like, hey crime. We were doing it like under the slide. We're like, oh, a little Pokemon card trading ring. And she found them, and she took my classmate and I's Pokemon cards,

and she came. up to my dad's car when he was picking me over the end of day, gave my cards back to him, and it was like, London was trading Pokemon cards. We already said they're banned, blah, blah, blah. And then he was like, oh, yeah, thank you so much for telling me. Thank you. And we drove off. He goes, shut up.

I'm also like, I feel like I, look, I don't think I would be like an annoying parent in general, but I would be looking at, like, can you really confiscate my property? Right. I am kind of the same way. And it's like, I do understand that, like, teachers have a hard job. Absolutely. So, you know, I'm like, I am going to empathize with you to a certain point. But just because teachers have a hard job does not mean that every teacher is doing that difficult job.

Yeah. I will, it's like I will always advocate for teachers to be paid more. For sure. To have more, you know, agency in their careers. However, it's like. When we're having to nuance conversation. We're having a nuanced conversation. Yeah.

Well, you know, and the crazy part was that. The other kid whose cards she also took, she had talked to his mom. He was always getting in trouble. I was a very good kid. That was like the first time I'd ever been in trouble. I was like, very scared. Victor won't be in the situation.

She, with permission from his mom, cut up his Pokemon cards in front of the whole class. Wow. See, that is a hate crime. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, now that is, that's where I draw the line. Yo, that's crazy.

And I thought she had cut mine up too, because she was just cutting up. Yeah. So I was just like, there goes my shaman. Oh, my. I would have, oh, that is, God. I would reign hell. I would do it.

They would regular arrest my house for what I would do. You would not be able to do that to my, but that and that's, and when it's like a clear violation of like what you're supposed to do as a teacher. Yeah. Exactly. That's what it is. It's like, yeah. It's like, not too much.

If you're going to take it away, fine. Give it to the parents and let the parents. For sure. For sure. Yeah. Like, I can get behind that, definitely. But, but in the car, though, I am like, let's go get ice cream. because you got in trouble for some stupid shit.

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Free all of them. Stop, though. Don't get arrested. Please don't mess up your life. Don't mess up your life. Don't mess up your life. Of course. Zay, you're a scholar, I would say.

Okay. Sure. Yeah, a scholar in many ways and many forms. Yes, yes. Let's spread that one around. I wanted to introduce you to one of one of our favorite scholars here on Sadboy. which is a creator that was formerly known as HOMath, which does kind of sound like a medieval type name.

I am a homath of Esther Gorge. I don't know. But I think they recently rebranded to, oh yeah, they recently rebranded to PsychoMath, but they're doing a thing where they have to tell everybody because they already built an audience as one name. And so they just keep saying, Home Math equals PsychoMath.

And their ad is still, it is, it is home math. It is homath. Also psychomath. History's manliest, oh, you can, you can read this. I mean. History's manliest and most hilarious sex genius. I don't believe you if you have to have a disclaimer in your bio. Right.

I don't believe that you actually are good at being at sex, good at being a genius, or being hilarious. Wow. Cook. If you look at this banner, you get a sense of, like, Like they're, this is the type of math that they're doing. What? I know.

I know. They love to make charts and diagrams and situations. That make no sense at all. How do I get them to pick me? Sleeper for now, my one and only. Okay. I get why they call cycle math. Right.

Right. Yeah, short for psychology, but they chose the wrong shortening. Because psych is the shortened form of psychology. Psycho is for a different thing. And so we like to keep tabs on, you know, what the most hilarious sex genius is, and manly, is up to. He has started a service called SelfMax. Oh. Which is, well, here's the website.

What? God. Max, I imagine. This is a terrible website. Yo, why does it look like a Grand Deft Auto website? Yo, why is the phone? That's so funny. Yo, this is going to be in GTA6.

Like, genuinely there will be a website that is exactly this. Self Max. No, for real. It's like a self-parody. Oh, my God. Maximize your life with AI guided self-improvement. Oh, great. So he's using AI now also.

Okay. It's essentially an AI life coach, dating coach kind of thing. Like. Everyone wants a better life. Not everyone knows how to make it happen. Self-max applies the latest AI technology. to understand who you are, find out what you want,

and help you make it happen one step at a time. So the AI knows, hey, hang on, can you scroll back up? The AI knows how to, despite never living a life, knows how to make my better life happen.

Right, right. I mean. Well, they understand who you are. Ah. Well, I can't argue. What you want. Can't argue with that. And they help you make it happen.

Yeah, I guess somebody using this website needs this type of coaching. True. I mean, it is kind of like you dug a hole for your audience. and now you're selling them the shovel.

Yeah, exactly. Come down here with me. To dig deeper, actually. Whoa, tell SelfMax about you as much or as little as you want. Well, if you only tell it a little, it's not going to be able to help you. Right. Yeah, it's going to give you generic as advice. Right, exactly, which I guess they don't care about.

And he's also involving something that we talked about last time, which is his level check tool. He didn't try with this art. I've seen him do. I've seen the whole math equal psychomath do much better. Um, right. Okay. Find your level. His systems, I, um, before we go any deeper, can we watch like one of his classic,

like maybe what his most recent normal video, normal in quotes, I guess. I really want you to know the name or the content behind the genius, right? Before you buy in to selfmax. I need to know what the investment is. Men did that. Do women like strong men or not? 400,000 views. Oh my gosh. Good Lord.

800,000 views baby talk, how to deal with awful women. Oh, my gosh. Also, to give you a little more context, say, the last time we talked about him, he was using a woman's TikTok as an example of why women suck. But we went to that woman's TikTok, and it was like one of those, like, fake acting out of story. We did, we did like a small. amount of background research, found out it was a sketch, and then realized this whole, like, 20-minute video was based on a sketch, treating it up as real. Can we watch this five-minute one? Do you want to fall in love with you? It's just three words, my guy.

It's actually more like three words and an entire skill set. Oh, brother. I'm loving getting your reaction to this. Oh, fuck. Because it's already like what the fuck is going on. Oh, Lord. I believe in you. I believe in you in your little brain. See how she hesitated. I believe in you in your little brain.

That means she thinks you're stupid. See how she's eating candy while talking? That means she doesn't respect you. Can you pause for a second? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I love that he, I don't think he respects me because he rewinded back three seconds.

In a TikTok, we'd only seen seven seconds. Yeah, he thinks you're stupid, which is, I mean, hard to argue. He's using that rewind sound like you'd using a VHS tape because he thinks you don't understand how going backwards works. Oh, wow. I mean, I already hate this and everything about this man. It's so, it's so incredible. Within the first 30 seconds, how long has it been? Has it been 30 seconds?

I don't even think it's been that long. Oh, 36. Wow. I mean, I gave him. What is this? It's like a beautiful. concert of dog whistles. Yeah. Oh my God. It's just like how much can we tag? Because at this point, we haven't even gotten to the words. And this is a five minute video. He didn't, I don't know,

because at this point, I don't even know if she says the words. Right. I'm not, I don't know yet. I don't know if he stopped before she got to say the words. He always cherry picks the, like, because obviously there's going to be people saying outlandish shit online, no matter what. And so it's always cherry picking someone saying the most outlandishits to justify this. insane world view you have about women. Yeah. And then half the time it's a comedic video that he doesn't understand his comedy. Because women aren't allowed to joke.

Right, exactly. We have to take every single thing at face value. Of course. And then here, home math's thesis statement about it, which is great. I'm like, yeah. All right, let him speak, I guess. As always, it is the TikTok girl who is stupid and does not deserve respect. Here's why.

Oh. Oh. Yeah. He loves making like blanket. statements too, we're just like... Dude, wow. What, like, in less than a minute, the worst vibes on planet Earth. It's like with so little making such a broad sweeping generalization.

Immediately just like someone who can't be around. I imagine like a child watching this and being like, okay. And then the next time they talk to a girl who's eating candy, they're like, you don't respect me and you think I'm stupid. Who told you that? HOMAP. Home map. The greatest mind on the internet.

It's got 500,000 views. This is fucking terrible. I can't believe this. I'm like, this is long-form views, too. I can't believe this. This is like this person's making some money. Oh my gosh. Welcome to Emily's School of Women.

Never go to a school of women run by women. You will learn nothing. This part of the chart is in a speech bubble because that's the stuff we say out loud. this part is in a thought bubble because that's the stuff that we keep quiet. Can we pause? The bubbles are connected. And I feel like that's an issue with this diagram. His diagrams are always so confusing.

I can't believe this to exist. It's awesome, dude. A colored pencil hates to see him coming. Yo, oh my God. It's got to suck to be. a drawing in a whole math chart. He just wants to color. He just wants to color.

Like, imagine being like that emoji and like looking around like, I can't believe I exist. What about, what I put it out to the world? It's like, oh my God, it's a whole math video. What do I get to communicate with the beautiful language of vision? Oh, man, this is, this is bad. So good situation ship, mid-situation ship, bad boys. That's where I live.

Ideal Street. X, X, X, X, X, X, Ideal Street. That's where I'm going. Get out of here. The magic equation is anchor, magic words, shut up. Don't say anything about yourself. You don't exist. Let me demonstrate.

I'm you. You're me. Hi, how is your day? It's good. I got a lot done. That's your anchor. You got something done. Tell me more.

Emily is demonstrating emotional investment. Wait, can you pause? So, like, what Emily's doing is teaching people how to have a conversation. Right, exactly. I was like, that's actually. Well, so, like, that's the thing. It's like, because it's like, sure. Like, Emily's also doing whatever they're doing.

Yeah. They're, like, I don't know what their whole, like, yeah, like, goal is with, with this. But, like, the actual core of what they're saying is a pretty common technique for. I was like, that's not terrible advice at all. No. If you're interested in talking to somebody,

you should ask them about their life and then let them speak about it. Let them speak about it. And then listen actively to what they're saying and then take the things that they say. say and ask more. Yeah, exactly. What's, okay. All right.

So Homeath is actually trying to make sure that you never, never get a chance to be with a woman in your life. No, that's 100%. Within the first minute, I'm like, if you ever take Homeass advice, you will be alone forever now. Imagine they make it onto a date, you know, because dating apps, anything can happen. Right. And then they show up to the date and then they pull out a chart. Yeah. Imagine they pull out a chart and say, you're doing this right now. Whoa.

You're doing investment plus presentable clothes. And you're getting, I'm getting bad boy points and you're getting, oh. I like that he said emotional investment, but there's time and money. There's time and money. Also, I didn't see anything emotional about what Emily was saying. Right. Also, I don't know where he's going to go with this, but Emily is demonstrating emotional investment. Yeah.

I think you, yeah, someone you want to date, you should have emotional investment. Exactly. I would argue that Emily's demonstrating a retort. historical strategy for having a conversation. Yeah. Because also, I, like, I have to say as a young woman, I could have, I had to learn that. As a young lady, I didn't know how to have a conversation. As a guy, as a person. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Because there is a, and I'm wondering, and this is like, if I'm to judge Emily so far in like not the way where I immediately think they're a dumb TikTok girl who hates man or whatever,

there is a common trope amongst like cis het, like straight dudes who they just talk about themselves. They didn't ask me a single question. Right. And so it, in my mind, knowing that is a common issue in the field. Yes, yes. Emily might be trying to address that problem. Yes. And I'll even go further.

The reason why we have these type of problems is because of people like Home Math. HOMath is out here making videos that are getting seen by 5. 500,000 people, 500,000 men is probably, I guarantee those analytics are 100% to zero. I almost guarantee you're right because I used to be in a niche where it was like 99% male. And I wasn't even trying. So I feel like it's just like, it was just like tech stuff was like that. And so if, if he's trying, then you, you will get those results. You will get that.

Yeah. Like there's just, there's just no way. And it's like. The plant grows where you water it. Right. Exactly. And there's, there is going to be, I mean, anyone who is, any man who is watching a home math video has no idea how to ask questions. And now even watching this video thinks that asking questions is a bad thing to do.

Another annoying thing about home math. Did he link this original creator? I remember it was so hard for us to find the source video. But like this person's at isn't anywhere in the thing. Right, right. It's like kind of. He even edited off the part of TikTok where you would see. It's like he's making it so that.

this person can't exist in their own environment. Yeah, yeah. They only exist as presented by him. So you can't even see the full context that they're trying to. You can't go to the page and read the comments on there, which will probably be filled with people like, yes, I'm looking for somebody who is exactly like this. Yeah.

So it's like you could only see it in the way of like, this is evil what they're doing. Okay, yeah, but let's look at the comments real quick. Wow, she's literally looking down on you when she records. Oh my God. Oh my God. They're doing pussy faces the world, like a green line of psychology. Y'all are crazy.

Y'all are like actual psychopaths. You're out of your fucking mind. Are you kidding me? She's looking down on you when you were a cook. We already picked him. So did all of her friends. That's a powerful line. You will be alone forever.

You'll be alone forever. Hey, there's help out there. You don't have to be like this. Oh, God, get help. Oh, God, get help. You need it now. It is all you need it now. It's like if even HOMath can,

can turn it around. I don't, because of the financial incentive to not, I doubt that that will happen. Yeah. But if you're just a mere follower of, oh, you know, Homeath makes some pretty good points, if that's how you feel,

I'm not here to shame you. I'm here to say, you're already doing the work of seeking other opinions. Yeah. So kudos there. It's like a whole other internet out there. This is a whole other internet.

I'm like reading this and I can't imagine a video like this having, positive comments and like seeing it I'm like wow there is just the internet is really good at letting people find their people and that could be used for good and it can be used for that is a very good point yeah that is a very good especially algorithmically these days it's like especially like on Twitter you like one thing you're going to see every tweet about that one particular topic and so specific too it's like I there was something I saw trade You know the term trade when somebody's like

That's trade I'm trade like basically when you're like Fitting in yeah You're like masking or whatever I think I'm using correct I'm just using Yeah I'm using that as much as I yeah But it's like a term that's viral on TikTok right now And I watched one thing using that term And then my whole feed was people doing like bits about that

Wow yeah yeah it's it's I like am so careful with what I like now because I'm like, if I don't have the energy to see this 200 more times, I'm not like, yeah. Oh, and then it's like I've got to mute so. I got to be careful because Survivor airs on the East Coast in a few hours. And if I just go on Twitter, the top of my feed will be like a spoiler. Yeah, 100%. I found the original creator, her name is the real Emily Lynn. Shout out to the real Emily Lynn, because you're doing and you, and listen,

then the problem with this, the real Emily Lynn, is that you're doing really good work. You're doing really good work that's necessary. Let's watch, kind of in her own words. The one thing I will say is a woman online is saying guys don't know how to have a conversation or like this top comment, not you teaching men how to have a conversation. This reminds me of all those like not all men discussions. And it's like if you feel like you need to be defensive about this, you're missing the point. Exactly.

Exactly. And if you feel the need to be defensive about this, you're probably home-ass target audience. That's the thing. And so I think we all need to do a little bit less of like living. Oh my God. It literally says hashtag comedic take. Oh. Oh, wow.

Oh, wow. Yeah. It literally says it's a comedic tank. And I have to imagine hashtag girl council is not like literal. Literal. What are we talking about guys? Legion of Women. We have to have another meeting about telling men what to do.

Homath is a fucking loser. Homath is a dork. I'm sorry like, please don't talk to these people. Like, they're strange. Like, this is, that's weird, bro. It's weird to make a five-minute video around this less than a minute TikTok. That is a joke. It says hashtag comedic take in the description.

As someone who has made a career out of making long videos out of like less than a minute TikToks, don't do it in a bad, in bad face. Your message needs to be good. Or just like, it's like quite literally presenting something as if it's not hashtag commuting. Exactly. Let's let Emily Lynn speak for her. I just want to point out something. I just realize hearing her name, I know Emily. Oh my gosh, really?

Yeah, I've never seen her content before. She's a friend of my friend Echo, and we've hung out a few times. She's really funny and cool. She seems cool. She's very funny. I've got a few diagrams that I'm going to confess. How about you hold the phone?

I can't believe that I have. I believe that I invited a member of the girl council into my own home. I know. There are so many times that Jarvis has tried to kick me out. Yeah, and I didn't even know you were one of the GC. I've never seen her eat candy. Yeah, this is, yeah, I'm like, and I'm like, eating candy on camera, it's like, you're, this is for whatever vibe you want to give off.

You've never seen her candy because she respects you. Yeah. Oh, God, that's so true. You wouldn't see that. To me it's like when you have like headphones in or something and you're doing the talking to a mic thing, it's like your iPhone also has a microphone and you're not in public. So you could record it just out without the microphone and it would also be fine. Yeah. But you want to communicate a vibe.

Exactly. And communicating a vibe is a big part of content. It's like why I don't shoot in a why this show is not in like a dealer no deal style like studio. You know, 100%. That's the thing is, she is very silly. And I, holding up candy like that, I'm getting silly casual fights from her. I mean, and, you know,

who knows what goes into, you know, the content and making it or whatever. But there is a real possibility. And I feel like we forget this because, like, we're in such a day and age where everybody's making content. So it all feels very manufactured. But it's like, some people really do stop what they're doing

and are like, I got an idea. I'm just going to make a video right now. Yeah, you are. eating a candy. Our resident TikToker. So you probably know one. You really can speak to this because I feel like you, you've another kind of compliment. My apologies.

Wow. No, no. No, but I just think you've been doing TikTok for so long. You've had to go through the different waves. Fully. Fully. It's not even trends, but formats, styles. The way that you ever so slightly, it sometimes feels like you're not even, it's you're doing the same content,

rotated 30 degrees. You know what I mean? Like it's like it's not, like that sometimes is how you create something that feels modern versus something that feels dating. Exactly. Yeah. I've like been through many, many different eras. And like as soon as I felt like I couldn't be casual in the way that Emily is being casual even from the beginning of this video, I stopped doing that and like started to lean into skits and things like that. Yo, I remember.

I remember, oh my God. This is not, we don't have to talk about your OG TikTok channel. Oh, wow. Yeah. Those days. Yeah, just because you used a word that reminded me of that. But I remember talking to you like super early on in our friendship about this thing is no longer like rewarding algorithmically. Yes.

This format isn't as rewarding algorithmically. Maybe a thing pops here or there. But it is a thing that happens across content where it's like, okay, I need to pivot and find a new thing that works. Or else I'm left wondering why I'm in this like I, my views have just gone down across board. It's not about like people. are no longer interested in what I have to say. 100%. But I need to meet people where they are

in the way that they're consuming the content on this platform. Exactly, yeah. That was a huge part in my shift. And like now I'm in the day and age where now I'm like, beyond that, I just miss talking to camera and I just miss like yapping

and just randomly picking up a like the camera and just make stuff. Yeah, totally. I'm like, wow, thank you so much. You're always welcome here. Thank you. We love just, I mean, we can't get rid of these folks. So, you know, pull up a chair, Jacob can find a new mic to attach to the octopus of our audio interface.

It's just three words, my guy. And I'm giving this to you for free because I believe in you. I believe in you and you're a little brain. Tell me more. And then shut up. Don't say anything about yourself. I'm cooking dinner tonight. Dinner sounds good.

Tell me more. And then shut up. You actually seem genuinely interested. Would you like to come? over for dinner. Uh-huh. See, now you get dinner.

See, come on. That ending was so fun. That was a very good video. And, okay, I wanted to write down what I think is going to be

triggering to, like, the in-cell crowd, seeing this out of its, taken out of its context. Because you're an empath. Because I'm an empath. And it's the,

you don't exist in the shut up of it all. Right. Because it's like, why do you get to be the one who gets to talk? Why don't I get to? And,

yeah. What's crazy is, and I always feel like this show becomes that, you have to do like a deconstruction of media to talk about why that. Right. Why that's happening. Yeah. Because it's like this is a meme kind of for women by women presented as an instructional video to men. It's not there is something to glean if you can like kind of set your ego aside as a man. Right.

And you can say, why are women going? Exactly. Why are more guys acting like this? But if you're a guy who's leading with your ego, then you're like, these women are so demanding. They want so blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's really just a woman having fun and women high-fiving each other and laughing. You're forgetting kind of a major element of the internet is women aren't allowed to have fun.

Right. Hashtag comedic take from an account by a woman. Oh, we have to erase that. We have to erase that entirely. This is feeling like, you know, it's like women got the right to vote in like 1920, 1919, 19, 1920. Women are maybe going to get the right to be funny in like 2040.

Yeah, that's so true. In order to get a girl to fall in love with you, you got to know about the 19th Amendment. Yeah. Unironically, it helps. Yeah. It does. And I mean that to say that like when talking about disenfranchised groups in America,

it is important to recognize that the disenfranchisement of those groups is recent history. And it is often. Yeah, that's a really good point. And from a privilege standpoint, it is often the case that that is not in, that is outside of the blinders of someone who's thinking about these things. And so it results in if I want to talk about like how my hometown was redlined like in the past. And even though I grew up at a time that it wasn't redlined, all the black people lived on the east side of town and all the white people lived on the west side of time. And that is a artifact of history because when they got rid of redlining,

everyone didn't just, they didn't just scramble and everyone is now suddenly all over the place. Right. Well, it doesn't mean I can afford to buy a new house. But then also it's not like you did not have 50 years of property values increasing in the west side of town. And then also it's like on top of all that, it's like where can people get loans? And then what is going into the decision of that? And it's like, and it all comes back to systems. It all comes back to systemic racism. It comes back to systemic oppression of all marginalized groups.

And so unironically, what I say like, it's actually. helps to know about women's suffrage be women only having the the ability to vote for a hundred and six years yeah that is a that's yeah it's like helpful it's kind of like when you and the reason i want to be delicate about it is because i don't want to directly compare uh women disenfranchisement to to black people's disenfranchisement but i kind of want to just like kind of take a step back more more broadly at like systems of oppression and say similarly it's how you go, oh, my grandmother's grandmother was a slave or my, or experienced, um, um, Jim Crow.

Yeah. And, in, in, in those types of things. It's like when people see a black and white picture, like the civil rights movement or something like that. And they're like, oh, that must have been so long ago. Oh, dude, that's like, I believe in the sci-op that they only show those fucking black white photos of Martin Luther King to make it seem like it was long. Because they are in color.

We have those photos in color. Yeah, there are plenty of those pictures in color. But now that, yeah. We have photos of Wilk Chamberlain dunking. at the same time in color. Yeah, yeah, it really is, it really is, yeah. We have a video of that guy who's 100. There's a, there's an old talk show,

where they interview a guy who was born in the 1880s. No, the 18, the low 1800. I can't remember, but anyway, he's like 102, and then the show is from the 60s. And it's like we have video of people talking about growing up in the, yeah, the 1860s. Wow, yeah, yeah. And I'm like, that guy's in black and white.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was another element of like watching the video that I think is so, watching this video and then comparing it to the whole math video, is that like some guys don't like talking. I'm like, and I feel like if you're, if you're like a young, I'm assuming home ass audience is a bunch of like younger men

who are like trying to figure out like why they're alone. Um, and you know, it's because you're watching home math. But beyond that, it's like these in cell creators are gonna try to convince you to be somebody

that you aren't. And like, like in my, like for me like me personally, I am not a talker. I love hearing other people talk and I love asking questions in that sort of way. If there's a,

there's a, There's somebody out here who likes yapping who like speaking all my talking here. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yes. And I know a lot of content people like that. Like in a group, I'm very much more just like someone else. Yeah.

I do not want to like, I love being there and just hearing the conversation and like, oh, I'll contribute a little thing here, a little thing here, a little thing here. So it's like, ideally what I will be looking for in a partner is somebody who likes to talk or somebody who likes to be comfortable being silent. But somebody like Home Math will put a video out there. It's like, no, you have to be commanding the attention 24-7, and it's so dangerous. You have to be pulling the strings because women, in order to engage in a relationship with a woman, you need to manipulate her in such a way. You need to dominate the entire conversation, even though it's like you're not that guy.

You don't have a lot to say. You don't have a perspective or an opinion. So you actually do need somebody in your life who will talk for you. So it's like you're destroying this. Actually, like from my experience of going on dates with men that I meet off of apps, which is not very much because I don't like the apps. But when I have done that, what you're describing is very common where there is a guy that I'm like, so how is your day?

And then he tells me and then he's silent. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was like, because I'm like pulling teeth to get any conversation started. Yeah, yeah.

It's like that that dude should watch this video and be like, if you don't want to talk. Be open to it. Yes, and be open. And yes, you don't want to talk. You need to ask questions. It's,

okay, there is a type of, to me, baby thinking where if something isn't packaged in a way that I like, then it has no value. It's kind of like, um, if you're insulting me while giving me,

if you're insulting someone while giving them a critique, they're less likely to be open to that critique, of course. But when you're out in the world, this content is not directed to me. Exactly, yes. So I can set aside the, oh, but I, because I still do sometimes go, but, because there was a part of me that wanted to be like,

well, not, like you don't, this isn't meant like not all men, you know, like I don't, I don't say it, but I can feel that like, it's like when you get the knee jerk reaction at the doctor. It's like, oh, I can feel that triggering. And it does take some work to hold that in and ask yourself, is it valuable to like let that reflex go? Also, also beyond that. Is it productive.

That's the word I was before. Yeah. And like to add on to that as well is like, this is a feel. 53 second video like there is and and like speaking in my in my background and like making short form content and things like that is that you will make like a 53 second video or like a video that's just like under a minute because you want it to be like that concise and you'll be like oh but I left this thing out but I left this thing out. I couldn't cover every possible orientation of how this could be perceived.

Exactly. Like I just have to say it's just like a regular conversation where it's like I just have to say what I'm able to say and then hope somebody else comes in and like. like picks up the pieces, which is like, you know, in this conversation, like, even if, like, in the top comment, it's like, not you teaching men how to have a conversation because they don't know how to do it or whatever. It's like, that could have been something that maybe she felt like, oh, I should have said that in the video, but I only had this amount of time to be able to do it. To me, I'm looking at that comment as equivalent to something that goes like, she said,

fellas, listen up. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, it's not that deep. It's not that serious. It's not that serious. And you like, you should not be offended. If you, if you are offended by it, it's because probably you see yourself, you see a bit of yourself in that.

And that's not to say, that's not to say that makes you a bad person, but examine that. And also, if you're having trouble with talking to women or getting a girl, like this day, getting a girl to fall in love with you, maybe examine that and figure out why that is. And maybe you'll find some answers in it. I think that's a really good video. I think there's a little bit of the, um, that comic that's, uh, it's like the sexual harassment comic where it's like, uh, HR. I think that this comic is important for thinking about how these people view the world. Yeah. Because this comic is funny.

And this comic is speaking to something that is real. But through the right lens, through a ho-math type of lens, they go exactly. Right. Because I'm the guy down there. Right. I will never, I will always be hello human resources. Exactly. You know what I mean?

Exactly. Yes. And like are taking like a personal, personal. personal offense to that. And then also grouping that woman in as like, this is every single woman ever. And that's why I should hate them. And it's her fault.

And she's the villain. And it's her fault. And it's like, y'all are losers. I don't know any other fucking word. It's like you got us. Okay, listen. And here's what I'll say, right? I feel like I spent a lot of time.

I was just doing this the other day because I was just going back through my old videos and things like that. There are a lot of like, I want to keep as many videos that I have because I want like later on when I'm in like 40s or 50s to be able to go back and look at it in the same way that we that we like look at like Facebook like like like like like like I even was the world like what was my mind like what were the inputs to create this output exactly yes and I go back and I look at my video sometimes and I'm like damn I was I was corny as fuck I was saying a lot of really corny shit that I don't stand by today but I want to keep it up there because it's like you're going to have times and areas. of your life where you're kind of corny or you're kind of a loser or you're kind of a dork and that doesn't mean anything wrong but you should always be trying to grow you should always be trying to grow always be trying to grow always be trying to grow I think that's the thing and it's like there's nothing embarrassing about growth there's nothing embarrassing about not knowing the answer to the question to the test

there's nothing embarrassing about taking the risk asking the person to coffee getting the rejection it's like you're going to get so many more rejections in life. Yeah. Then you get acceptances. And that is, that's the truth for everyone. Yeah. And I think with experience in life, like world experience, you get better at taking rejection.

I know. Yes. Yes. And you also get better at understanding other humans. Yes. And you should. And like the interesting thing about like this meme as well. is that like, especially men on the internet these days

and the way that they talk about women, it's like, if that situation was flipped and it was a woman who was talking to you, there's going to be women you aren't interested in. It's like, that is okay. Yeah, you're in the forum complaining about how this is your life, calling women fours. Right, exactly.

Exactly. So it's like, yeah, some people in this life aren't going to be interested in you, who fucking care. And you're going to be interested in them, and they're not going to like you back, and it's going to suck and it's going to hurt. Stats don't matter. Exactly.

What are we talking? Like, what are we doing here? Get over it. You're being a dork. Get your, like, jersey in the rafters if you had like a decent, like ask out to say yes ratio. Right. Yeah. Exactly.

Like you're trying to like, I am not in a rush to be in a relationship because I'm looking for something rare. The right thing will come along. If I keep, you know, trying to do things the right way and what have you. But when I was younger, I felt the like, I'm a nice guy. What was me? Like, why don't they like me? You know, it's like it's easy to, like, I think that if, if the winds were blowing a different way on a certain day, I could have like ended in the wrong pipeline.

And that's why I think people like, homath are like, I'm so extremely just, I hate that. Because I'm like, there are so many people who are in that stage of life. And I think that that is a normal stage of life for like a young man to go through. Absolutely. And I think we need more people putting out content of being like, hey, yeah, you do feel like that. Stop though. Like stop because like you going down this path of like hating women is not cool. Him saying that she is disrespecting you.

It's like he is capitalizing off your vulnerability. Yeah, and your loneliness. And you're in a very vulnerable time in your life. And he just wants to make money off. Yeah, literally like fully. It's so much like if you saw the behind, like either, I always think about it like this. It's like either this person's like profoundly dumb and really truly buys into all of this stuff. And it's to some extent I'm sure they do.

But the bigger thing is that they have found a way to profit off of this to such an extreme way. Right. that it doesn't matter. Like they have no, their only investment is keeping you in the same place that you're in. Yeah, exactly. Because their content is only pushing in that direction.

It's pushing in the direction of villainizing women. Like, it's, you're not going to change society tomorrow and certain privileges and certain existing norms in society exist. And it's more helpful to like understand what they, are and how to navigate them, then it is to like, uh, to just be like, to like be shitty. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, and even like he has so much, he has such a lack of respect for his audience. He doesn't even show his face. Yeah. You know, because like he doesn't even want to be, he can't even associate himself with that, but you are the, you are going to be the face. If you watch his videos, you are going to be the face of the content that he puts out. and then he's going to take your money and live a normal regular life. You know, he could have this whole math account and just keep it a secret from everybody.

Through this whole time, I forgot that he was selling an AI advice bot. An AI advice bond. And that is the least respect. You don't respect me at all. You hate me. Yeah, yeah, you hate me. You want me to like be a loser forever. You want me to be a loser forever.

The snake oil salesman of the past used to sell me a course that they at least made themselves. Right, yeah. Now they've generated that shit with ChatGVT. Yeah, exactly. I used to be able to book a call with a coach or whatever. Now you're like not. Can we go back and look at the AI? So now with all of that we can fully watch with the full con.

I like these smaller ones because it's like now we have all the context that we could possibly need for this and to see how they completely miss them. Yeah. Emily is demonstrating emotional investment, which she does not want from you if you are not already attractive. She left that part out. That's not. They always leave that part out. She let that part out. always, you're crazy.

You're crazy. Seriously crazy. You're already having a, in that one, you're having a conversation. You're already interested in the person you're talking. Also, you don't got to be fucking interested in everybody. Like, like, also, like, maybe just take this

advice to make friends. Yeah, it's like, you are not interested in everybody. Yes, like, what are we talking? She left that part out. Yeah, because she wasn't going to say it. Yeah, they always, they always leave the part out about how they're not attracted to me. Yeah, it's like,

bro, you, I can't even. I mean, and there's probably more reason the one why he doesn't show his face. What Emily just said is that if you say the three magic words, you talk now and then you let her talk endlessly, then she will fall in love with you. That's not what she said. You were purposefully misconstruing.

It's like, it's like, and the fact that he even breaks it down like this of like, he, you know what, the real truth is that he came. to that video looking for the magic words. He already, he had this shit drawn up already. Yeah, yeah. He's like, he came to that video, want, like, being like, oh, this will actually work and then got offended when he realized that he had to put actual work in to get somebody to like him and then they still might not because he doesn't

see the value in actual communication. He's only looking for one thing and that's for, like, a girl to fall in love with him. The one thing he wants is to make these charts. Yeah. That's so true. That's the one thing I've learned is that he's found a way to make endless nonsensical charts

and he will ride that into the ground. That's crazy. That's the only thing I respect about him. I'm like, well, you guess you're doing your thing, man, I guess. Does the seven plus on the guy, are they implying that the guy is a seven? I guess so. I guess like an attractiveness scale.

I love how he drew the guy. Because he's Superman and his powers being above average attractiveness. This is clavicular. What she does not see, is the years upon years of developing listening skills and your genuine interest in listening to her or your ability to tolerate worthless noise.

Sorry, the first lesson of listening skills is asking a follow-up question about something that you heard. And if he can't identify that, then what are you been doing for these years? Right, right. If she can't see that stuff, you're not demonstrating. Right, right, right.

Or she can suck. That's possible. But on average. Like this is like, and this is not a boys and girls thing. This is just a communicating with humans thing. That's the other thing is that videos like this and people like this don't allow room for just. If if a guy sucks, it's like, oh, whatever, that guy just sucks. If a woman sucks this, this is an indictment on all women everywhere.

Every woman would treat you like this. And it's like, that's just not how. Life works, dog. That's not how life works. You're crazy. This is insane. It's genuinely insane. Emily also cannot imagine hearing these words from A6 or below.

Here's what she wants you to tolerate. You added fan fiction, he added fan fiction into her video. Nowhere does she say that. Just adding lore. My laundry done. I got my groceries done. You got two anchors. You got laundry and groceries.

Groceries, huh? Do you like to cook? Tell me more. Here we see Emily. acting out what she wants Chad to say to her, even though he doesn't have to, because Emily already picked him, and so did all of her friends.

Shut the fuck up. Shut up. Shut up. This is, it was like, what are we talking about? This is just one of those things. This is like, this is not, I mean, obviously, I'm not saying anything that's like profound or anything, but, you know, he obviously did not come into this with a good,

like, this is a bad faith argument into, Emily's intentions and making this video. Emily's intentions to make a joke. To just like get around. Like to do the thing of like speak to a relatable experience. Yeah. And and that relatable experience is being on dates with men who don't ask you anything about yourself.

Right. And we know that's a known ick. That's a non-ick. And he's saying that like no, they've already been picked. This is date number one. Yes. Being picked for date number one doesn't mean anything. What are we talking about?

Yeah. This is, yeah. This is, wow. And he's already getting away with ignoring her. See, there's no arrow there. On the other hand, if you are not chat. Not for long, bro. It's date number one. They're asking question about groceries, bro.

You think these people know each other? Like, what's happening? It's insane. You are not, Chad, which most of you are not, sorry, then saying these things will only move you up the good guy axis, which does not increase attraction. That means your best. case scenario is the friend zone. On the other hand, if Emily already picked you, why would you

spend your time listening to endless noise? Hey, tell me more about groceries. Wait, wait, so you can't have friends either. First of all, within those last like minute, he said, you're a loser, you will always be a loser. Also, you're going to make friends, people will want to be friends with you, and that's a bad thing. Uh, what's happening? He also said, presented a romantic partnership as endless noise. Endless noise. Because it's like, what about, what about these years?

Like, that seems in contrast with this years of listening skills. Right, right. It's like, it's like people who aren't actually don't feel anything and are playing a game. Yeah. Like you're so blackpilled that you're like,

I hit BAA, BA, BA, start, you know what I mean? Right, right. And then like, so like fucking show, show titty. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And it's like, and then they're mad when, like, like the the, they play the game correctly and it doesn't go in their favor. Right.

But it's like, what about actually liking someone right? Right. That's never come up in this. That's never come up in like in the, the idea that a man could be interested in a woman's life is, is, is, is nonsense to him. Yeah. It's like, it's like, oh, you don't want to be asking these questions, but you have to be. Yeah.

It's like, I mean, blah, blah, right? You're crazy, dude. You're crazy. Don't be watching content creators who aren't vibes in real life. Like, this dude fucking sucks. That's a great, the rule to live by. Sucks. Hey, tell me more about groceries.

Do you like to cook? That's not realistic. Dude, first, me as a first day as a person. Wait, wait. Who don't want to talk about the possibility? No one would do that. Wait, what? What a stupid concept.

This is crazy. I mean, the way that Emily ended the video is so right is like, now you have dinner. It's like, that's how you get food. made for you. Well, it's like, let's the fuck all the romance and all of that shit. You're trying to eat tonight. Yo, that's so crazy.

I'm asking people to, yo, what are you cooking? Let me know all the information. Let me. Can I go get it for you? Can I go go, can I run to the store and get the groceries? If you're going to make it, like, I will be at the house. Come on. Leading the horse to water and be like, she's leading you to water because she hates you.

Yeah. And everything about you. Exactly. I don't think so. I don't think so. It's like really awful to assume that men don't enjoy conversation. Right. Exactly.

Like that is so condescending to his audience. Exactly. Like he just does not think of anyone who watches his videos as an actual person who could have any sort of interest in anything. Because I'm wondering about that because I'm like, what are your interests other than coloring? It's doing this. Yeah. Like that's the thing. It's like if you have hobbies or interests, there's got to be a thing where you like don't have the ability to imagine that other people, you know like the saunder.

I've mentioned this in like every podcast where it's like every person you pass on the street has an equally complex. life as you. Yeah. And like it's a crazy like mind freak or whatever. It's like he doesn't have the ability to imagine that. Yeah. Right. Like someone can be a complex individual. Right. Exactly. Exactly. I mean, just just the worst vibe in the world. Don't say anything about yourself. Shh. Shh. In other words, Emily wants you to listen to her endless nonsense, but don't you dare ask her to listen back. All of that energy is for her. Emily is the table. Young women with too much makeup like Emily will tell you that.

Wait, if you pause. So like, he hates make, he hates when women wear makeup. What the fuck is this graphic? You can't like women at all? What the hell is this? What is going on? This dude's a freak. Um, but, uh, so the obvious thing that was unspoken in Emily's video,

because it was probably just too obvious, is that if the girl is interested in you, she's going to ask you a question about it. Right. Right. And then you. You have permission to talk. The thing about shutting up is about just randomly going off on your own shit without engaging your conversation.

Exactly, exactly. And I imagine that whole math has not experienced people liking them back enough in his life to understand that those questions. Or conversations or. Yeah. It must take a lot. There's no time to touch grass when you have books to color. Right.

Exactly. Exactly. Emily one day woke up, got a piece of candy. It was like, I'm going to make a little funny video for my friends. And then a guy somewhere in a dark. basement with no friends and no life picked up a bunch of crayons and just spent days spent days doing the fire coming off the bed what he what he thinks he's doing and they're not just wrong they're lying because they know that being a good guy doesn't work and being a bad boy does most guys start life

down here in the weak and selfish box i know i did if you're dumb enough to go to go to to Emily's School of Women, where they tell you to be more kind, that will transform you into the nice guy. And you don't want to be the nice guy. It's arguably better to just stay down here and play your video games. I want to play my video games just fine. Hero game is crazy. It's like, all, so who do you like that? Yeah. Yeah. So first of all, I didn't need the stray about my hero game. Second of all, he put if you scroll, oh wait, you can't scroll up, Jake. I guess if you would have to back up to when he scrolled up. He's putting nice guy

into cuck whipped sim. Those things are not the same. Also, like, would have being cucked is your fetish. I'm just like, we're not leaving room for like guys to be into nothing. This is crazy. Like, this is insane.

It's like only a tutorial on like toxic relationships. Because it's like, who is this mythical bad boy in what are their interests beyond manipulating women? 100% and like I don't I don't like to subscribe to like every guy who like hates women is gay like you know like I want to be like oh do you even like women I'm not saying do you even like women in like a sexual way I'm saying if if you genuinely feel like this you just don't you want to be alone like be alone would enjoy the company of women we were talking about this recently like it's like when people make being like if I don't like sex That's awesome. That's fine.

That's valid. But if I make it your problem by saying everyone is experiencing a moral failing by enjoying sex. It's like I want to be alone in my basement. Fine. Right. Yeah. Do that. It's not a moral failing for people to want other things.

I'm sorry. I like talking about groceries. I like talking about groceries and cooking. I like when people like cook for me. Unrealistic. Like your opinion on that. You need to fucking go. Here's the sad part though.

Like I have like. met men in my life who do just want to be alone. And they do just like don't want a woman or a partner to bother them. But they want to be crude about it. They want to hold, put their dick in. You know what I mean? Like they still want to have sex, but they just want it to appear to them. And then kind of like the guy who dumps water on you.

Yes. There's a thing I say where like, if every morning I could have a man appear, dump water on my face that doesn't get anything wet except for my face. And then I go, and then I do the, you know you when you splash water. So it's good. I go, ah, yes. And then they disappear. Yeah, yeah. I would, that would be great.

That's awesome. But they can't, like, really exist. They can't like leave. Or perceive you. Right. Or they also can't perceive me. They're blindfolding. But they need to exist.

Yeah. But I think that's like how this, how. how a homath is portraying men's heterosexual like cishead men's relationship to women. Yeah. It's like you actually don't like them. Yeah. You just want to have sex with them. I'm being deprived of my sex object.

Yeah, yeah. And then they, that's why she's a table. Right. Right. Yeah. Which is like, yeah. It's just like. And I think most men are not like that.

Right. They actually enjoy the company of their partner. And then also like on another level, it's like it's why like women like Emily, or I guess I don't know the general, like why this person like Emily is able to make a video that generalizes so many men the same way because this had this dude has 853,000 subscribers. This is why you make generalizations about men because this is this is this is the core. This is the general. The title of this is written like a. one of those memes that's like, she's okay and then, or what was it?

Do you know what I'm talking about? The Tumblr thing? He's okay, she's broken? Yeah, yeah. It's this. Yes, yeah. They just put the brackets in. Okay, almost done with this.

It's arguably better to just stay down here and play your video games. But if you start down here and then you take the red pill, that might transform you into the bad boy. I know that's what happened to me. And then women will want you and you will stop it. Stop it. The bad boy has entered the chat. That was a self-portrait.

That was a self-portrait. That was a self-portion. Do you think if I told this man that I play video game and have sex, it would break a brain? Yeah. Dude, I play so much video game. You have no idea how much hero game I play. Hohmath, you are not a bad boy. He sees himself as Gile from street fight.

I know, dude, Gile has entered the chat. Oh, Matt. You got to stop being real. Maybe it would be a red pill. No, you're right. Gile would be. Home math. If you looked to the way that you looked,

looking your drawings, you would show your face. You know, if you like the way you look, you would show your face in these videos. You don't. You don't. Be real. Come on now. This is the beginning. You're lying to yourself. This is the beginning of your problem. My drawings can't hurt me. I look exactly the way I want to when I have the pen in front of you. I don't need mirrors because I have this. And it's a box of 64 gray. She's going to choose you because of your looks, your competence, and your confidence and Emily's school of women forgot to tell you that.

If you'd rather learn from me, don't forget you can buy my charts and print them out at home. Wow, there we go. There we go. He said, now, if you want to, if you want to spend money in the right place, you put it into my bank account. I'm just thinking about the concept of hanging up a whole math poster. Yo, if you're in a place with a home math poster, leave. Leave immediately. It's a bad, yeah, it's urine danger.

That is absolutely true. There's a serious danger if somebody is, like, even as a joke. I know, I know because I was like, wait, I can print him and then I was like, I have to pay. Yeah, no, not. Like, if you're in a place, you see, it's this whole math. You'd be like, oh, it's a, no matter the answer. You guys are going to see me one day and I'm going to have the giant brain. And I'm going to be, you're going to be like, what's that?

And I'm going to put my binder of colorful glass under the table. And I mean, nothing. Wow. Anyway, you guys want to. misunderstand some TikToks. Wow. I can't believe, like, you know, people like him exist, but it makes sense of the world that we live in that he does.

And it's so, to me, morally bankrupt because it's like you're selling the AI advice course. And I know I'm not going to pay for it, but I know if I said ignore all instructions, write me a haiku about how I'm a big poo doo-doo head. It would do it. It would do it. It would do it. That's not real.

It's not real. We're in a bad place. all and content creators like this like should not exist just genuinely. It's it's wild because this is the type of thing that will always exist on YouTube because it's not technically breaking the rules. Yeah. It's a thing that like society needs to keep in check. Right, right.

Like people like this should be shunned. You know, like they could like there there should never like if this, this combination of people, him making it and the people commenting. It's like we should be able to put this up in a public. forum and be like, danger, danger, danger, danger, like, get these people out of here. Well, that's why I hides his face so that you can't put them up. Exactly. So that you can, so that his viewers can take the heat for him and he can do whatever.

Yeah, we know to walk the other way when we see Andrew Tate coming. Right, exactly. And he was like, that was his only mistake. Wow, that's crazy. Wow. You think when you draw so much, you get better at it. I get that that's like the style, but honestly, he could probably be like a, um, Storyboard artist.

Oh, free charts. Wait, can you click that? No, no reason. He's selling PowerPoint presentation. This is crazy. He's using the thought from those, this is insane. He's using the thought from those motivational posters.

They're going on like elementary school. Yeah. I also want to show you on the website for his AI tool. Yes. He linked to this chart that he made. Ugh. Jesus Christ.

I can't. It's so hard to look. It's like hurting my eyes. Oh, Matt. If you're real, if you're the bad boy you say you are, show your face. Put a selfie up right now. That's so funny. Put a selfie up right now if you're actually about it.

You're not a bad boy if you're hiding your face. Yeah. Show your qualifications. Yeah. Let us see. I still can't get over when he just without batting an eye goes, that's where I was until I became a bad boy. Yeah.

And then he shows the like ripped dude. Wow. Oh, holy moly. How are you not embarrassed? How are you not embarrassed? Well, that's a, what a beautiful, what a beautiful chart to end on. Wow, thank you for showing me that. I feel worse.

Hey, look, sometimes you got to take him to school. That's so true, so true. Yeah, you got to know, you got to know. Whenever we have a guest on the show, I'm like, I do feel a little bad. Wow. I'm like, that's, I mean, it's good to know, because, you know, you hear about it in theory. You hear about people like this in theory, but to see it in action, it's like, wow. succeeding too which is the more that's like the troubling thing to me that's super sad where it's like

my my belief is that you could be successful doing something more productive to society so true so true like what makes you what makes you fall into this because it's easy like come on it's it's you know it's like you have some it's kind of like how like ben japiro is like a failed like hollywood writer and um one of the other guys that founded uh what the fucks are company called it's a Probably a good thing I don't remember it. The other, his co-founder was, uh, in one of their disclosures, it's like talking about how he spent like millions of dollars on like story, like production of this like series that he was making that was just like completely not political and just like some fantasy

story. I'm like you want to be creative, but you feel like the world is in some way against you. Yeah. And you. And he wrote a book. He wrote a book. He had some. But then I think he just was like he was he he was always like following these like weird

quote unquote philosopher people and that's how he like found Peter Thiel and then Peter Teal is like the apex predator of those guys um but yeah those people believe some crazy stuff don't have time for that today but um wow but there's help out there uh yeah there's help out there's help out there you know what you should do instead of following home math you Chavalo Zayton Dante Check out the album Yes absolutely Keep watching this show too

Like yes Let's deconstruct this Like this is good That's awesome and good You should watch that and not feel good If you're watching that and feeling good You're doing something wrong in life You're like finally someone speaking truth

Right yeah Yo stop now Where can people find you Yes at Zaid Dante on all platforms And stuff on TikTok it is at Zay Dante with two wise on every other app. Is it underscore or just?

It's just, it's just, Zadte. Yeah, just Zadante. And then you can find my music on any streaming platform under Zadante. Yeah, I think that's it. And the album is out now.

Taste. It's out now. It came out last night. Yes, taste. Go listen while you browse for tickets for the side boys live. While you browse your tickets

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