Sad Boyz - The Overnight Celebrity Of Hawk Tuah Girl

Episode Date: July 12, 2024

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We're going to a friend's wedding in San Francisco and the first hotel that I looked at, like the first wedding hotel, had two types of rooms on the wedding block. One of them was large king bed and the other one was queen bed, then tiny other bed. Me and Anastasia, truly the photo is deranged. It's just gigantic bed next to tiny bed. And I was like, why are these the only two options? It's like a sidecar bed. I've literally never seen that at a hotel.

It's like two queen beds or a king bed. Yeah. And that's it. But I was like, can you imagine? Well, as a joke, I was like, to Anastasia, I was like, can you imagine if I booked this room and then just made Jordan sleep on the tiny bed? For a photo shoot alone.

But then I realized that that might have been what I had to do. Or, I mean, we shared a large king bed before everybody be normal. But luckily, everyone is staying at a different hotel and that hotel has normal normal rooms so we just booked that oh my it would be really funny to just get what looks like a candid photo of me uh my legs dangling off the side of a cot yeah my neck vertical stretching out i get up i'm three feet taller taller from just stretching out my spine. Right, it's just like a weird perspective thing. It's like, wait, is Jordan, this is like

you feather the photo and make it look old-timey and it looks like you're Andre the Giant. There is, actually, maybe it's designed to do like a Lord of the Rings style force perspective where the bed's the same size but like, I'm huge. Do you think Lord of the Rings style force perspective is on the Sad Boys

bingo board? Because it is one of the things that we say a lot somebody write it down yeah maybe it needs to be added as one of the options yeah welcome to sad boys a podcast about feelings and other things also i'm jarvis i'm jordan i like that pete home style yeah did a little cold open so to speak speak. A little warm open. It was boiling hot. Ow. Hot to the touch open. Funny enough, our friend Brigham. I love your feet and I love what they do.

I have some kitchen scissors down here. I just want to make sure they're away from you. And I have three fewer toes. All the important ones. Our friend Brigham's wedding, however many years ago at this point, I did have a half-caught, half-regular bed type scenario with evan ah who got the cot who got the regular bed exchanged back and forth a natural uh diplomatic solution um americans and the british working together isn't that a nice idea can i give a little shout out can i give a little shout out to so um you know i grew up in a

house uh that was a two-bedroom house that had four people in it most of the time four or five people and i would sleep with my mom on our living room couch like head to foot head to foot and i haven't slept like with someone like that in a long time the head to foot, head to foot. And I haven't slept with someone like that in a long time. The head to foot type scenario? Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, there's something weirdly comforting. You know how there's a something, something reminds you of the womb when you're in those sensory deprivation tanks and shit?

I feel like for me, that would be like sleeping head to foot on a couch with someone. Let's try it, Jordan. Oh, yeah. be like sleeping head to foot on a couch with someone let's try it oh yeah this is actually oh my god i'm like getting memories now thinking about this dude we were just playing like uh one warfare one late into the night you know yeah like a little slumber party oh man yeah for sure wow i'm at my friend ewan's house you know what you guys remember you and right some of the glasses and it's ewan and it's not owen and it's not eoin like nope it's spelled almost the way you'd think but not like you are adapting you guys are too low right

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For a foot-oriented episode. Yeah, maybe we do it head to foot. Maybe it could be called Sad Boys Sleepovers. Sad Boy Late Nights. How in the world are you? Dude. We are back from the sickest any of us have all been at once. Oh, sorry.

The framing was almost along the lines of concert. I know. We just got back from the sickest. No, no, no, no. It was sick in that it was not actually, I can't even front. That shit was bad. So VidCon happened.

Which Jordan was sick for. Which Jordan was sick for. I had a pre-celebration. Turns out it got me. I'll a pre-celebration the turns out it got me I'll admit it so much for the jab am I right fellas

that did a precisely dick so one thing one thing I want to say is that first of all you know we're not medical experts or anything like that

but COVID is very much about COVID never went away first of all two I don't know if there's like a crazy strain

or something going on right now but like so you got it went to vidcon i was good to go actually we were being very safe i stayed away jordan stayed away uh i ended up giving uh your badge to uh our friend tina because uh she because of how security works she she wasn't able to get into places with her friends. So I was like, that was nice. So thanks for that. We look the same. And then, so me and Eddie were becoming jaded about VidCon.

So we're like, we want to get in, we want to get out, we want to see our friends, we want to do our stuff. But otherwise- One last job. Yeah, we're in for one last job. We came prepared. We were testing every single morning, washing our hands constantly.

I'm fist bumping people. I'm hugging Hank Green when I see him. You got to hug Hank. You got to hug Hank. But for the most part, I'm fist bumping people and stuff like that. If I was ever in a tight crowd, I wore a mask. Yeah.

Like we were pretty much avoiding big crowds though. Yeah. And it's like we would, like I went to, did I even go to a big party? I went to one big party. Oh shit. Oh, the COVID party. I just remembered something that happened. Wow.

Do we have a suspect? Do we know who it is? Can we talk about it? Well, maybe. We'll see. Maybe we can talk about it on Sad Boys Nights. Oh! Yeah, Jacob. Foot to head. Jacob, write down Jarvis's

party encounter. Okay. And this is something that is not necessarily a thousand percent but it's something we want to reduce the ears for. This is, okay, I will, again, and it'll be obvious why I don't want to just blast this from the rooftops. Okay. But I will give you, this will be something we talk about on Sad Boys Nights,

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Anyway, someone that I made a video about approached me at a party at VidCon. And he was grumpy. Really? approached me at a party of VidCon. And was it? And he was grumpy. Really? And to say this word's not mine, we'll talk about it on the Patreon. This is, it's not often that I have tea,

but I was the tea. Mr. Tea. And I pity the fool that doesn't go over to patreon.com and spend the money. Don't go over to patreon.com. Don't do it, don't do it, don't do it. Or do. Reverse psychology.

Okay, the only follow-up I will ask in the public is, how likely do you think somebody's guess would be? 5%. Wow, okay. It is... So it's not a couple I'm thinking of. Well, I mean, but maybe we'll have you do some guesses on nights before I go into it. But like I did go to one or two like crowd engagements,

but was mostly like with my same group of people. But anyway, I did not get COVID at VidCon. Neither did I. Neither did Anastasia. And as far as we know, neither did anyone else COVID at VidCon. Neither did I. Neither did Anastasia. And as far as we know, neither did anyone else. Eddie or any of our other friends. You had the ivermectin, don't you?

No. Oh, okay. But, and now Jacob enters the fray. We went to a birthday party for one of our dear friends. After VidCon ended. After VidCon. After VidCon, every single person that I know of at that birthday party got COVID. But it was a small party. It was not a big party.

I felt like we were, for the most part, being safe because it was a small party. It was just a bunch of people who all knew each other. And we were in, it wasn't a public karaoke thing. It was one of the private room karaoke's. And, and, and also this didn't stop the like testing every day and all that. Um, but I had a surgery that I had to spend June 1st, uh, doing a liquid only diet for where I had to spend June 1st doing a liquid-only diet for where I had to take a bunch of meds that made me feel terrible and made bodily operations happen. They put you under, so I needed to have someone drive me home

and take me there. So Anastasia was going to be my ride. I'm his designated driver. Yeah, and it was close by. It wasn't a long drive. Get a text from Anastasia that night. I've got COVID. And when I took that COVID test,

I already told you guys this, but immediately the thickest red line. It felt like a thick Sharpie of red. It was like, girl, you got COVID. It's funny to think of it as like quantitative. And just be like, oh, there was so much COVID in the liquid. My virus had reproduced beyond. Yeah.

It made a frowning skull. Because you know how the like, when you take those at home tests, it kind of like moves up. It's charging up. Yeah, it's charging up. And they say, do not look before 15 minutes is up because there could be like false residue. And don't look like an hour after or something like that.

Don't spoil it. You can't, don't look for 15 minutes. But it was like immediately bright red and just kept getting redder. And I was like, oh fuck. And then so Anna said to text me and it's like midnight or 1 a.m. And I'm like, okay, fuck. And then so Anna said to text me and it's like midnight or 1 a.m. And I'm like, okay, so my surgery is at nine.

I need to go in at 9 a.m. the next day and I don't have a ride. I test, I'm still negative because I was like, if it's going to be positive, let it be positive now and not tomorrow because then I don't have to feel this discomfort that I'm feeling. I'm not like wishing to get COVID.

I just want to clarify that. But it was more like I was in a state where I was in a lot of discomfort. Let me just say. Knowing the way, I mean, all of us are in environments where there's not like pre-existing conditions and people we're living with or something. Oh, and okay, no, but it's just a self-contained bad time. Yeah, look, I am not immunocompromised,

but I have been dealing with chronic fatigue for over a year and I don't want to get COVID. I don't want to have any risk of like long COVID or any sort of extenuating symptoms or conditions from that. And actually on that, I do want to shout out a fundraiser that was done on behalf of Diana Physics physics girl who has been dealing with extremely chronic long COVID situation where she has been bedridden and they're basically like doctors aren't able to treat her, know what's wrong. And it's just like a compounding thing of conditions

that are all very horrible. They did a fundraiser raising money for research for that. It was put on by Diana's husband, Kyle, and I believe Ian from Smosh, who's also friends with Diana, and Simone Yatch, a friend of ours, also a friend of Diana's. They hosted it. I watched some of the live stream.

It was really cool. I learned a lot more about COVID and long COVID. And I learned a lot of places to get medical news and updates about that stuff. But it's so, so serious. So I want everyone to protect themselves to the best of their ability. Understandable instinct to want to disengage

from the topic after how many years. Yeah, it's not. It never went away. And again, we're not experts. We're just saying, we're speaking on our personal experience and saying to consult resources from experts. Because while for many, you might be asymptomatic or you might not have any major complications, the person next to you could be severely impacted their life could be uh upended by uh by covid so with like a very

i mean i don't think even with vidcon you generally expect to get sick at vidcon a lot of people catch something or other last vidcon no phenomena in our group nothing's no no quickly this was pre-vidcon and had uh i mean i don't know what like a two-week knock on now i feel like we were just planning uh dnd night somewhere covet yeah so jacob anesthesia myself and then you you first your patient zero then then the three of us got it and we have all now recovered, but we had like basically a lost week in there where thankfully we had prerecorded some sad boys. So it didn't look like we were gone for long to our listeners.

There is a huge surge happening in la right now of a new strain and it's a strain that like i like i've had booster shots and stuff i've had four and it's like still you know getting through yeah um and again not an expert i'm just repeating what i've heard from other people but we can say with some confidence, if someone's talking about it on this show, statistically, probably not an expert. Yeah. Hey, I'll throw it out there.

I am a doctor. I'm getting it. Just kidding. I'm an expert on a bunch of shit. But the thing is like, everybody I know has it right now. Yeah. Like on Instagram and stuff,

people are posting like, hey, I got COVID if you were around me. On Instagram and stuff, people are posting like, hey, I got COVID if you were around me. And it's been four years since I had it last. Same. And I think even with us being very careful but trying to go about our daily business,

it's possible to get it. It is. So just, you know, be, be safe, treat it, treat it seriously. And you don't have to be immunocompromised for it to very negatively impact you. Absolutely. Because it can also, again, not an expert, but like the, like there are, it can compromise your immune system. You know what I mean?

Especially on successive... From what I've read, it can be bad to get it multiple times. I don't want to get it. This is my second time getting it. It's the first time in four years. I don't want to get it again. Asymptomatically, you can still transfer it. So if that's someone, knock on effect.

I remember years and years and years ago, first year of Patreon or something, I'd never had a vaccine booster of any kind for my adulthood prior, right? And this was my first time working in an office and first time in college. You know, I was a hick. So I was just like, I don't need no jab from nothing.

And then someone just candidly said to me, they were like, well, it's not for you. It's for... I was like, I don't care about getting the flu. I'm like, well, I care about you getting the flu for the people around you by extension. And no one tested for any kind of, at this point in time, it's 2016. The idea of doing that for influencers, like at the time it was a comical. I'm like, well, I'll just stay home. And wearing, I'm wearing a mask

now okay i'm a loser for this reason and i i don't know it's weird to jump back culturally in that way now but it does that feels like a million years ago right it it literally is like there's a it's the end of an era in my mind. It's an era. And this is the beginning of a new era where we need to be more considerate of other people's health. If we're sick, like I have a friend who is immunocompromised and she has to go into the office a few times a week and she wears a mask. Other people will be in the office and will be sick and will say don't

come near me i'm sick wear a freaking mask why are you not wearing that's such a funny like careful my words you can hear might move through the air i can see them drop onto the ground there's bullet drop on my careful my gun doesn't have a safety on but anyway um be be safe out there uh everyone and practice uh protection just the thing we all know how to do but sometimes maybe don't yeah i have something to tell you because of covid i've missed you so much it's been like really i was thinking about that i don't know because we do we do hang out of the show. We will have since just not hanging out with anyone. We're trying to do friendship meta, but every now and then,

and we didn't hang out between the last recordings we did in VidCon. Yeah. And then VidCon happened. Cause we were planning to be seeing each other all of it. It was just like, duh, duh, duh,

duh. Yeah. And I just, uh, I was, I was, uh, talking to someone the other day and they were saying like,

what are you up to this week? I'm like, not much. I should maybe plan something, keep my friendship meta going. I was talking to someone the other day and they were saying like, what are you up to this week? I'm like, not much. I should maybe plan something, keep my friendship meta going. I was like, Jarvis friendship. What do I do?

And then I bought magic cuts. Just one more job. One minute. I know. I, cause I was also thinking about Katie, uh, your partner,

my friend. And I was like katie loves poker there's a lot of poker players who play tcgs because of all the like you know optimal thinking optimal thinking the uh running percentages of like you know uh odds of things occurring drawing cards whatever playing to your outs that kind of thing and uh and then also there's a boulders gate set and i and katie's a big boulders gate the boulders gate but more than anyone i know the boulders gate bastard to this very day yeah i know she's she's keeping on she's keeping the torch flying dude thank you for her service the last light dude she's the last light in she's down right the second act at this point. So speaking of Boulder's Gate and Magic the Gathering,

I am, it won't have happened yet, but I'm filming something this Saturday, Sunday, that'll be my first, me playing Magic the Gathering on camera. Magic 10. Well, playing, okay. I filmed something where I was playing Magic the Gathering on camera recently, and it'll come out in the next couple weeks probably but uh i wasn't playing with my own cards um i was playing with uh bloomboro pre-cons so you'll see that that's that that's that this is not sponsored by the way

however i will absolutely accept your sponsorship because please subsidize uh my excessive Magic the Gathering spending. After our episode with Ify and Brian, where I called David Gilbert Brian David Kibler, Brian Kibler, the magic player, the most handsome man in magic. Oh, I said I was back in. Second most handsome man in magic, reached out, and I'm going gonna do his commander series commander at home and i've been cooking on a deck i've been basically i called up uh

russell started workshopping some stuff just the anvil yeah literally like the wiping the sweat from your brow like damon no it's a subset return from El Toro. Yeah, like damn, man. Where'd you find these cards? Oh, you bought them? All right, cool. That's nice.

I'm like playing with some strategies that are very nostalgic to me, some mechanics that are very nostalgic to my past and trying to make that work consistent in like 2024 magic. And we cooked up something cool. I think I got all the cards for the most part. Um, and I still actually, after this recording have to go drive and buy a few singles. Cause I'm going to go to, uh, go to a card shop and buy a few of my missing singles. But I went on YouTube and I Googled like the name of my

commander and the name of the mechanic that I'm playing with to see if anybody else had done this. I find a four-year-old video from some Wizards of the Coast employees where they're doing deck showcases of decks that they're working on. There's a Wizards employee. He was showing off his deck four years ago, and he was like, it's basically the same mechanics I'm playing with.

Four years, a lot of cards have come out since then so i have i'm running some different stuff and i'm like i want to reach out to this guy and see if we can like exchange notes because i want to get kind of i this this was all theory craft you know in my mind and i wanted to actually see if somebody's been playing with this deck for years like what this is more like the stage if you like you're drawing up the blueprints and then you're bundling it up like this one that's not good enough exactly that's exactly what no truly uh there's incredible tools for magic the gathering like uh so I me and Russell I was yesterday at a coffee shop uh I was on discord with Russell and we were on an online tool

because I have my deck list in an online tool. There's a create sample hand function. You can draw seven basically from your deck and see. And we'd literally refresh the hand and we'd be like, okay, what's the turn one play? What's the line? What are we doing? Like blah, blah, blah.

And keep doing that. And then like, oh, we're not seeing seeing and then you could also play a simulator like you can literally like uh go through the motions of a game which commander dexter 100 cards and they're pretty hard to shuffle a lot like my hands get tired so it's nice to be able to do it on a uh do it on a thing oh not to mention like half these cards i didn, I wasn't able to get, so I printed them all out. I was wondering what that is. I just had a weekend of, I just bought some precision scissors,

because I've been making D&D handouts, like item cards. And I'll tell you what, man, it feels nice to do crafts. Doesn't it feel nice to do little crafts? To a degree, but I was using kitchen scissors because I was in a rush to cut this paper, nice to do little crafts to a degree but i'm using i was using kitchen scissors because uh i was in a rush and to cut this paper um which sounds like a like making money or something yeah

i'm gonna rush to get this paper baby i'm going as fast as i can for the broccoli and so uh this is and this is where my um this is piracy what you're doing this is where my printer ran out of ink uh right before the useful part yeah right before the description right before the description of the cards and uh so yeah i had like i was just running my own like homebrew proxies basically i've just been in big test mode and let me tell you that is very fun like going from like an, a kernel of an idea, then you make like a deck. You basically pull 150 cards that you might run that have like sort of synergies with what you're doing.

Like even now I have in this deck box, I have- I'm sheathing the blade. I have like these, this is the deck. And then I have like cards that are like these cards i need to add in they're in different sleeves and then i used to i would literally i have some old pictures when i was playtesting i would use different color sleeves for cards that were like core parts of the deck versus cards i was testing because i'm not doing competitive i'm not playing competitively so i'm not like trying to cheat and know what cards are what.

I'm literally trying to decide, does this make it in the final list or not? And I need to be able to know, is this one of the cards that I'm sticking with? Is this one of the cards I'm considering? And that was just so much fun. It feels nice to funnel hyperfocus. It's nice to funnel hyperfocus

into however you want to define practical or whatever. It can be a useful tool. But I feel like there's much less of a hangover when it's something that is purely passion i don't know if that makes sense sometimes i will like you know clean the house yeah overly ultimately productive and i do have a decent time podcasting the year there's a exhaustion at the end of it that like doesn't feel as cathartic you don't really get to sit feeling satisfied and then if you do work it's great there's work off the table but you're maybe now you're in like an overly productive mindset and that is hard to get out of and relax right when it is something that is like practical and proactive and you know other stuff is covered, that feels real good.

Especially if you feel like you've learned enough to satisfy your brain, but not in a way where you're frustrated with how little progress you made. It feels like it's a lot of creative problem solving too. Just getting to chat with some of my friends, because we were also hanging out. Me and Russell were talking to our friend Arjun. We were roommates in college, and we were friends in San Francisco.

He still lives in San Francisco, but we hadn't chatted in a long time. So it was just nice to catch up, and he had a lot of insights, and just workshopping things with people, and running things by them. And just all the people that I've met throughout the process of like,

you know, like people at my local game store and like meeting like shop owners and literally reaching out, like just blind tweeting a Wizards of the Coast employee being like, I've never done, hey, DM me like that. But he had verified only turned on because Elon made that default

and not a lot of people turned it off. I sent him a tweet that was like, hey, I have a question about a four-year-old deck list of yours. And I ended up sending him my deck list after we'd done all this work on it. And he was like, oh, this has a few tricks I'll add into my deck. And I was like, well, look at that. A student has become the master.

Hey, kid, catch. And then there was another, because he's a card designer, and there's another card in my deck that's one of my win conditions. And I sent him a picture of that card doing some work, because it wasn't in his list. And he said, I designed that card. So it's cool to see it like getting some. So he can't use it because that's nepotism.

Right, right, right. He has to use other people's cards. That's the gathering portion of the name. That is the gathering. It brings people together. I was talking to somebody the other day who's had like just circumstantially they moved and they weren't as close to some of their friends as they used to be in the city they moved to.

They didn't have friends in. So it wasn't to here, but it was to California. And they were asking like how to make friends. Not in a they've never had friends way. Just so many of their friends were circumstantial friends first from school. And then they went to college near their hometown. A lot of their friends went to that one. And then they also made some at college and it's like uh college almost feels like it should be the

you're cementing permanent bonds because you're adults and you're kind of working together but their job here that they moved for it's not in an office it's not like no obliged hanging out which sounds cynical but it is obliged hanging out and it does help cultivate relationships with people you may not even normally hang out with or it gives you just gives you hours cooking keeps you social reminds you what muscles to flex and i i think i am just gonna start recommending like hobbies you're not even doing but not i feel like groupon events are always the go-to or like oh yeah climbing yeah it's fun yeah it's a lot of not talking to each other yeah and there is like a but there you know

in defense of climbing a lot of the people i know who do it have found like a lot of community in it and stuff um the magic does feel like it is a more transferable kind of like hey do you want to come around yeah because like now i want to get every i want to teach everybody and host like things and give it because there's also just so many different ways to play but uh i think as someone i'm talking about myself who is uh sometimes shy and has a hard time like making conversation, finding a hobby where you're talking about something specific, it's a good way to get to know people. Kind of like D&D.

Because it's like, there are friends that I've made, that I've like played D&D with multiple times, and like didn't know their real name for a while. I just knew their character's name. Yeah, Bellatrix. Do you want to come out and hang out? But then we eventually became friends because... Would that be Lestrange?

Yeah, you were doing Harry Potter themed and you played like one of the slave goblins or whatever. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, one of the money grubbing goblins. Yeah, or the little elves who like doing it. Green Gots. So you shaved your head. Oh, elves who like doing it. Green gods.

So you shaved your head. Oh, let's talk about the hair. Everybody chill out. If you're only listening to the audio version you can probably hear how aerodynamic I am now. It's hard to keep you awake. It's tough for the mic because every time you move your head you get a It's like your ninja neighbor.

Yeah, exactly. Well, I obviously had to do it in order to join the Shaolin Temple. They've been educating me. I've been learning Bushido also. No resolution to the ninja neighbor. That has not developed in any way. I haven't seen them again.

Starting to question if I did the first time. Yeah, I think it might just be- Such is the practice of the Ronin. Yeah, I think it might just be that they're moving so quickly.onin yeah i think it might just be they're moving so quickly yeah well they're in a cat ski so that makes sense uh uh yeah i got sick of managing longer hair i felt really bad because the barista i see almost every day said specifically like oh you should keep going it out let's see it and i gave a fuzzy pre-meds having kicked in assurance like i'll never cut it for you no problem i'm holding the razor stop don't do it so but i yeah i i got a little tired of it and i like it a little bit more grown out than this and so i thought i would roll the

bones i do that too like i like this amount of stubble it's like a little bit more grown out than this and so i thought i would roll the bones i do that too like i like this amount of stubble it's like a little bit shorter than like the shortest i feel like i can cut uh like with a garter on and so i did make a horrible mistake oh yeah i had kind of the goatee going on because i was just curious right see it grow out a little bit i had already made an essential mistake that meant that it couldn't work i had cut off a part that couldn't have worked but i briefly gestured towards a kind of poet style little bit at the bottom looked way better than i anticipated it looking cringe but would have kept it at least for the episode but i'd made the essential mistake of trimming this hole because i weirdly i have a very inconsistent lower facial uh hair growth this just lines here the part you need

the reverse uh chop for some reason i grow it's just full here like the the all the follicles got pushed into so this part just gets filled i have like lumberjack i think that that's like natural a natural hair growth pattern and i i've away I think that that's like natural hair growth pattern and I've started to think that some of the commonly understood like styles of hair are like people whose hair naturally grew in that way and they were like well let's just clean up around it

and just focus on this part I shouldn't have done that I started that I should have just looked at a photo, but I'm too pro. It made this patch look odd without it. I may try it again. I, Hey, yeah. I feel like I'm evading looking too much like a bard.

That's like a risky person. Oh dude, you are so close to bard. I do think because you're British, you could get away with a little Shakespearean hair. Well, that's the thing. I think I am better equipped for it, but I also don't want to indulge in that part of my brand too much. No, I like. I mean, your coach is like, oh, like the coach at your school is like, you should play basketball.

I'm like, I'm not an athletic person. I'm just long. I don't know if I'll be able to find it, but there have been a few times like when I've shaved, where I've shaved myself like weird facial hair to just be like, what's, how's it, what's this? Oh, this is funny. This is the last time my hair was short was December 30th, 2022. Wow. Something I realized I should just start bringing to the show is sometimes I wouldn't even ask anyone. Sometimes it will come up in natural conversation, go nowhere. And then I

would just write it down on my phone. But I would write down hypotheticals in the vein of a would you rather, but closer to like, what are you going to do? What do you do? If that happens, what do you do? You're on a second date. Second date. Going smooth as damn hell.

Okay. She's perfect. She's elegant. She's funny. Okay. You guys having a good time? Having a great time. She has whatever the sexiest name is uh chichi third day android 18 sorry i was thinking oh yeah actually that's perfect android android 18 me and android 18 are on a second date

you're two feet tall you're bald you have six dollars i'm krillin i'm chilling i I'm krilling. You are having a really wonderful time. And then partway through the date, you see, you realize that she doesn't blink often. And she's like very still. Android, yeah. You guys are, again, still a really... They're based on humans, guys.

She was a human first, but then Dr. Giroux put a bomb in her heart. Escalates to a third date. They haven't spent a night together yet. So end of second date, I'm like, great date, great vibes. Not blinking so much. Maybe, hey, maybe just hyper-moisturized eyes. I lotion my eyes.

We all do. Right, right, right. Fourth date rolls around and she comes back to you and says, are you going to watch a movie? Yeah, true. We do that. It's dark. You're watching a movie, having a wonderful time.

Small fly goes in the room. She extends her tongue, grabs it, eats it. It's really quick you're watching a movie, having a wonderful time. Small fly goes in the room, she extends her tongue, grabs it, eats it. It's really quick, and it is dark. But you hear, it goes past her, and maybe from like this angle? Like you said? Yeah. Right. So you can see, I don't know, what's that like?

That's about like 120 degrees of the kind of diagonal. Yeah, 100%. One crunch. That's about like 120 degrees of the kind of diagonal. Yeah, 100%. One crunch. Protein. Reaches over, grabs a drink, takes a sip. Cool. You see her eyes blink sideways. Blink sideways?

But you think. It's very dark. Okay. Have you seen her eat other food? Oh yeah. Okay. It's not weird. It's not some kind of Android.

Okay. So first, like when she, when she extends her tongue to eat the fly, my first thought is what that tongue do. I was thinking the same thing. Well, what I mean to be there,

one point of concern is that it, in order to grab the fly probably has some kind of sticky elasticity to it. You have kicked, you've maybe even French kissed, and it's not been noticeable. She seems to have a normal time. There was a transformative element to it. I have opened the floor for questions. So, okay, so my big thing now is like, so the question on the table is like, where do we move from here? Do we bring it up?

Are we going on, will we get married? Are we going on date number five? And it rarely do you even address it in the moment do i do i address it in the moment one third through the movie i go gulp which is for a chip has a dips of chip mind if i ask a pause the movie mind if i ask a quick question she's chewing but what was she eating there from salsa that's a big fly you can't even like talk normal yeah you can see her throat sinking there oh so you're so she's lying to me about uh she uh she did reach for a nacho chip but it's like clearly still holding no i thought i thought i saw you eat a fly it's so funny oh this is like a fun there's like a weird bit right and then another thing i saw that i thought i saw it's

dark as i thought i saw your eyes blink sideways which was interesting did i see that correctly like no judgment of course no she puts her hand on your shoulder perfectly warm blood nothing peculiar about the temperature of her blood okay nothing about the attention of her speech okay as far as she's just been a lot of time lying in the sun she goes to go tell all the photos you've seen she's like she's lying to the sun right here a lot of time laying on you wish yeah uh she reaches over kisses you it's perfect okay she walks outside for a second Comes back in, she's chewing A buzzing went away when she did so

I can't help but notice that Like you can be honest with me She's on the phone Sorry, is this a bad time? Sorry, I'm not on the phone Oh, okay, I can wait Yeah, no, I just had I just had one.

I catch the lid of dad. Dad, okay. Oh, is that your dad? Yeah, yeah, we were just catching up. What did you just have one of that you were talking about? If you don't mind my intrusion. We were just talking about laying down on a rock in the sun in the desert. It's a hobby of his.

He's an active hobbyist. Is he a frog? Is your dad a frog? I'm sorry if that's like a weird question not even close not even a similar type of creature oh creature i was just thinking frog standing for uh friendly regular old guy he is he is pretty nice uh and he's a regular human and so am i and i don't i gotta get i get, I gotta head out. Okay. Movie's all done, yeah? Well, we, 15 minutes in. I love The Matrix. I love the, how it ends when Neo gets out of the pod.

Yeah, so the thing about that is that this isn't the end of this movie. It's 90 minutes long. Okay. Here's the thing. I need my 18 hours of sedentary sitting in the sun. So now that it's summer, thankfully, that's better for me. Well, so the thing is, things were going so well. so well thank you between you and i i was really feeling a connection but now i'm feeling a bit of distance i'm feeling a bit of like you know cagey language i feel like

you're kind of dodging okay my direct questions you're right oh i'll admit it yeah i i struggle to connect with people in in the past you know it You know, I don't always want to invite people back to my enclosure, my apartment, because I don't know if they can. It's kind of like a very, emotionally speaking, well-curated biome. It's an emotionally curated biome. It's not like a literally curated, humid swamp. The issue is it is also very humid. I don't have AC.

Right. That's not going to be good for me. Okay. I do think that you can go. So I don't want to keep you. She's perfect. Right. See,

the thing is, I'm going to have to disagree with the fact that she's perfect because she is a frog. Oh, no. Okay. Yeah. Maybe she's a little lizard. I couldn't say what.

Or a lizard of sorts. Now, I do want to let the record show that I am willing to look past a lot of these things because I am alone. So that's a yes. No, but there's just too many things. I don't really feel like we're connecting from a communication standpoint. It seems like we're approaching from two different places. her biome is not one that's compatible with me i do have to keep it pretty cool uh don't love eating flies those i those eyelids though the

eyes are a bit of a deal breaker for me i I think I have sometimes in my brain, it's just like one of those like, now I can't be, I'm not in the mood anymore. Did I give you the ick? Yeah, it's a little bit, did I give you the ick? And for me, the ick is when you have sideways blinking eyeballs. I don't mind the lizard stuff. Can't stand the lying.

No, I would say that the biggest, I do think the biggest red flag was the lying and the eyeing for me. Yeah, they're like parts on her. What would maybe, what physiologically would push this over the limit for you, Anastasia? If the eyes and the,

if that's not an issue for you. They have Invisalign, so like it doesn't get on their teeth or anything. I would be asking about the like, you know, like do these flies carry any diseases? What is the general hygiene of eating a fly out of the sky? They have a sanitizing fluid that they generate inside their mouth. Also, you get high if you lick their skin.

I would continue dating her, and I would hope that she learns to trust me. Oh, you can change it. Are we dating exclusively? Because if we open things up, maybe I can date other members of the animal kingdom. I see what you mean. Other hybrids.

I feel like I've read enough sci-fi and watched enough sci-fi movies to be like, I've been prepared my whole life to date some other species. I will say just to be trad, this is such a good answer. That is the thing that reminds me of how a guy's hear me out will be like Anne Hathaway. It's like, what do you mean? What do you mean to hear you out?

And then a woman's hear you out will be a wooden Pinocchio boy. It'll be a lizard person. It'll be like a desk. Hear me out. It's like a, it's It'll be like a desk. Hear me out. It's like a, it's a trash can with googly eyes. He's a 10, but he's from Ikea. I do want to talk about Hawk Tua, but actually I want to show Jordan rapping for Jesus real quick.

Okay, boy, so do I. So let me know if you've seen this. Rapping for Jesus. Pastor and Mrs. Jim Colerick, youth outreach director and editor, Brian Spitty. I don't know Brian Spitty. Well, I wrote this song for the Christian youth. I want to teach kids the Christian truth.

If you want to reach those kids on the street, then you got to do a rap to a hip hop beat. So I gave my sermon an urban kick. My rhymes are fly. My beats are sick. My crew is big and it keeps getting bigger that's because jesus christ is my nigga i i my brain yeah said of course yeah my brain said apparently my brain said, of course. Yeah. My brain said,

apparently my brain said, I hope. What, he hit me with Vega? Yeah, you knew it was coming. First of all, it says his wife is involved. Is that just as a lyricist, or is she up on the beat, and does she throw out anything else? I have no idea where it goes after this,

but once I got to this point, I was like, this will kill Jordan if he hasn't seen it before. Fucking rules. Yeah, that's what I thought. Okay. I don't think, I've never connected more with religion. But what I'm very proud of is, it's only about the ha ha ha ha style.

Can we jump back? Yeah, can we jump back where he cuts to the group of smiling minorities? Yeah, and he's kind of gingerly is half pointing. And he's doing of gingerly half-pointing. And he's doing gang signs. Well, excuse me, that guy's wearing blue. Can we back up to where they cut to that? Because that's a pretty awesome

Okay. Well, I wrote this song for the Christian youth. I just no doubt about that guy. The Christian truth. If you want to reach those kids on the street, then you... He literally is doing... The Christian truth. If you want to reach those kids on the street, then you... Oh my God. He literally is doing...

I thought it was just like an awkward pose he was doing. It looked like it. No, you can see his face that he's really locked in. He's doing the coordination of trying to do like the blood symbol, but that's not what that is. Yeah, who knows what he's even doing. I hope that he's not. He's blocking one person.

I wonder what their whole deal was. I wonder if that was a third black not. He's blocking one person. I wonder what their whole deal was. I wonder if that was a third black person. Is he blocking a person or is he wearing a very low-hanging backpack? Yeah, that's true. It's full of his lyrics. And it's like thousands and thousands of drafts. Always says the N-word.

Yeah, it's literally everything that rhymes with the N-word that he can think of. I really hope he does it again. My rhymes are fly. My beats are sick. My crew is big. That was when I keyed in. That was the moment.

And I kind of, you know that part in Interstellar where Matthew McConaughey is watching the video of his child and he just like kind of starts to chuckle and then laugh. And then he's like almost hysterical. It's so emotionally resonant. That was where I started it and I'm like a video of my son or whatever

it's funny because when you rap in this style this slowly you telegraph every second line he's kind of doing Tommy Donald in more ways than one well he is rhyming more than Tommy Donald he's more on beat he's a life changer

miracle arranger, born to the virgin mom in a manger, water to wine, he's a drink exchanger, and he died for your soul. What was that, like, four little bits of clip art and then one of the most detailed renderings of Christ's corpse I've ever seen? It's like when parents took their kids to watch

um oh passion of the christ yeah it's like kids shouldn't be seeing this much gore i preach the word that's my gig and i rhyme better than notorious big i was there was an option there that would have been really bad yeah oh yeah it would have been steering directly into oncoming traffic that's a deer in the headlights running towards the truck though i will say the guy in the back with the smoke machine has now become my favorite person to ever exist he's also is he supposed to be he's he's he's uh it looks like you know, if someone's holding a hose that has a really high pressure water going through, they like can't control the hose. It looks like that's happening in very slow motion to him with that smoke machine.

Yeah, it's Mario's little backpack in sunshine. He's like. Yeah, there he goes. And then this is awesome. The bouncing clip art. That's pretty badass. He's crossing his arms. The other MCs wish him well.

Oh, those are other MCs. The other MCs wish him well. That's the guy on the right is going, I wish you well. Thanks very much. You're my baby. Now I'ma pass the mic to my lovely wife. She's a fly MC and the light of my life. So to bust the rhyme without further ado, take it away, Mary Sue. Mary Sue. Jesus Christ is my nigga.

Oh, Mary Sue. Oh, Mary Sue. Oh, Mary Sue. Oh, Mary Sue. Oh, Mary Sue. Oh, Mary Sue. Oh, Mary Sue. Oh, Mary Sue.

Oh, Mary Sue. Oh, Mary Sue. Oh, Mary Sue. Oh, Mary Sue. Oh, Mary Sue. Oh, Mary Sue. Oh, Mary Sue. Oh, Mary Sue. Oh, Mary Sue. take it away mary sue jesus christ is my nigga mary sue mary sue did she stand up there's a platform below the floor oh my god and then there was like, there was like a fucking glitter too. I also noticed.

Is that a her? Yeah. Yeah. She's like lying in wait. She really wasted no time. That was, she was like, Mary Sue,

how do you do? Nigga. I heard me. It's like a bloody Mary. You say it. How do you do, nigga? Who? I heard me. It's like Bloody Mary. You say it once and she yells the N-word at you. So let's back up a little bit. Let's also watch how this guy,

you know, he's lip syncing to his song, but he doesn't lip sync to his words. So if you watch his mouth, it feels a little like Madam Web ADR. If another MC says you're a freak, you're a lame butt rapper and your rhymes are weak I don't get mad and I don't critique

I forgive him and turn the other cheek this has sex appeal oh actually by the way the fact that at 1 minutes and 33 seconds they censor the O in God because they don't want to use the Lord's name in vain. After just blasting the N word.

That's crazy. Oh, and a swear word. Yeah. And my pants don't sag. I do exude a little Christian swag. My pants don't sag. This is some Bruno shit from Black White. Which, by the way

We still have to watch The last episode I know It feels like Frankly it feels like I'm saving myself Yeah like Like it'll be the last thing

I do before I die So she doesn't cuss And her pants don't sag She doesn't say any words I was gonna say I think agree to disagree About that Is the thing

To be fair So do all these other Butt MCs Yeah Am I right? I think she said lame butt Lame butt Lame butt rap I believe agree to disagree about that is the thing to be fair so do all these other butt mcs yeah all right i think she said lame butt lame but i believe yeah dude imagine they're they're look again i don't know if this is like some very good parody with black writers uh but i'm imagining a parent who's like you can't curse, but the N word is okay. This is wild. Don't say that.

I said you're being one. You're being a lame butt. Being a lame butt rapper. Proud to be an American. Jesus Christ is our neighbor. Let his light shine through ya. Let his love pop a cap in your butt and say hallelujah do you use a real gun i million percent that's yeah there's no way they had a prop gun i also love that the guy uh

that that guy i love how when you get shot in the butt his response is to go oh jerry careful my butt my butt's right there jerry you and my niggas look right now. What? You're a butt rapper for this. Is that cross made out of painter's tape? Like, what's happening there? It's like peeling up. Honestly, if the original one was made like that,

it would have been a lot easier. This is how I know it's a real gun, because their prop game is not like that. Yeah, that's true. That's where the budget went. Yeah, they have fucking arts and grabs, and then just a 45 I mean

maybe he's been shot in the butt before in norm I don't know yeah he shot his butt plate if you do drugs and you think you're cool you need to come to Sunday school put those drugs in a garbage can stand up tall you're a Christian man

are you allowed to go to Sunday school if you're an adult? Yeah, I don't. It's like a bunch of kids like, I'm coming along because my mom works Sundays. And he's like, I'm coming along because I've been on heroin for two and a half years. And I wanted to learn about the law. I was told by a racist bastard that I needed to go. Someone said if Jesus Christ was my nigga, then I needed to come to Sunday school. I'm 65.

Is that true? Word up. I'm freestyle. Why did she get a little mic? Oh, he was doing more. What could he have been saying that they didn't play the audio for that?

To join our youth outreach program or to join our congregation, go to and then the most blown out website. It looks like it's made with AI. It's like the length of a Welsh town name. Oh, there it is. West WQ Second Church of Christ. Of course, they don't have a SSL certificate for their website. So Chrome doesn't want us to go to it.

But they have this website that was linked at the end of the video. And basically, all it is is a page saying like, you know, Pastor Jim here, our church had to, you know, close down. And, you know know best of luck to everyone but there were some you know YouTube video essayist because this is like a super old clip like I remember seeing this like a long time ago but I'm saying that I have not seen it came back on my feed from this tweet and I was like oh I need to show Jordan People say the algorithm doesn't work anymore.

So the original video was posted on this YouTube account under the name of this guy, Brian Spinney. And people were basically doing research on the website and the YouTube account that it was posted on and uh the original description of the video was here's a project i made with my my like youth pastor back in my hometown as a part of a youth outreach group back in 2004 i thought people would find this funny um but people like looked into the account and the website and both of them were created in 2013 and he also uses the word swag in a way that was not used in 2004 and so they're like there's no way this is from 2004 or like the 90s or anything so now the the no one no one really knows yeah who's behind this yeah they're like this was made in 2013 and was likely just like a piece of work. Yeah, it's like generally thought to be a hoax. I love the idea of finding these two.

Maybe they're a real couple with the willingness and enthusiasm to put some gaffer tape on their wall to make a cross and say the N-word 400 times. You know what I'm saying? And let me tell you, in the cut, on beat. It is interesting because people still don't know who's behind the project or who these people really are. It's effective internet lore. I just hope it was done by black people. And I think the reason we don't know who did it is probably not.

Yeah, Brian Spinney, I've never heard a name like that for anyone that could because that could be one of those like super colonial names like you know like a washington they're like oh i don't know i think i see why some people have this one because it's like because these names because brian spinney i found the youtube thing but it's like their only upload is rapping for jesus so it's like oh the song i Probably just, I mean, that might be a fake name. Exactly. It's probably just fake. How about an alarm?

Uh, that song is a morning alarm to really get you going. I would love to find a salute to this mystery. Proud father of two loving husband and devoted Christian. I were born. I wouldn't say lower. I feel like someone would definitely take credit for this. If, uh, if it wasn't, but like, you'd think we, people would find that guy, born i wouldn't say lower i feel like someone would definitely take credit for this if uh

if it wasn't but like you'd think we people would find that guy that actor and then find out that he was like just hired for it you know what i mean they did create some playlists videos i love christianity come the this is oddly sincere these are regular okay so david after dentist so um the uh the the woman is uh an actress named elizabeth intz and i it literally incel without the l because incels never take those you gotta stop going like supporting them so much oh okay i saw javvis take the red pill the other day. Hey, that was Mike and Ike. Oh.

Fair enough. And I took it in confidence. I found her. She went to Juilliard in the 50s. Hell yeah. She was the first one. It showed. It did show.

Oh, yeah. Without performing for a lifetime you don't have the hamstring she's in la i wonder if she's in la we can have her on the podcast she's on the south side i need to know like because it doesn't matter if it's uh parody right unless it was written by black people and like this is the type of thing that if it was written by black people. This is the type of thing that if it was like a, you know, on like Key and Peele or something

and they're in the background or like that was the context of it, then. The Key and Peele bit would be a third verse by a black guy. Yeah. Who is like now,

like he did not know those were going to be the first two verses. Or it'd be like a black cameraman who's like, I did not know this would be happening today. The guy doing the beat in the background, he's holding his headphones closer. What?

Did they say that? I find this fascinating. Do we want a hawk tour for Thumbelina? Oh, yes, absolutely. I can't believe I just said that. So let's talk on to another topic. Could I say, I think it is so funny that black face and white people saying the N word

is inexorably tied to us now. It is undeniably kind of foundational to our work as a duo. Which is okay, I think. It's actually really good. And you too, Anastasia. No!

In a tangential sense. That's true. I mean, yeahastasia. No. In a tangential sense. That's true. I mean, yeah. Rules of association. For people who don't know, this is a clip that went really viral from... From like a drunk street interview. How many is on your roster? There's only one I want.

I love you, Pookie, forever. How do you get over a breakup? The only way to get over one Is get under another This motherfucker Don't miss What's one move in bed That makes a man go crazy every time?

Oh you gotta give him that Hock To it Spend all that time You get me? Banteeth that edit is Almost incongruous I love the The cut to Sneruous I love the cut to Snoop Dogg

I love it unironically watch these there's these YouTubers who do like comedic breakdowns of like Dragon Ball Z fights and will just fully do full

cutaways to like NBA memes yeah they're super funny. But I've come back around to just a completely unrelated cut away to a meme. It's now become quaint to me. It's like an Easter egg. The actual video is like an Easter egg in between clips. So this is the Hawk to a Girl, and something happened where we all just decided that she's the next celebrity it because i saw all of that

and by the way it referenced and then watched it yeah that's it that's all that is it the thing that we have built this temple on is and square by the way this is no criticism of the hawk to a girl herself whose name is hayley. Yeah, Haley Tua. H-A-L-I-E-Y. I like that. Cool. Girl could be getting her own show. I'm Haley and I'm from Belfast, Tennessee.

After sources told TMZ she spent her 4th of July weekend meeting producers and talent agencies. Since the video of her went viral, producers have been sending reality show pitches and are said to be determined to make a show based on her life. I think the whole community did that with the baby. It's really been a blessing. Yeah, I mean, OK, so she's real fast. Tennessee and the hometown girl, too.

And like it just became a meme. But we see so many memes happen all the time and it's very interesting to me the ones that are like immediately catapulted into like mainstream like uh like she has like a uh like a talent manager now doesn't this feel more like the early 2010s where you're like oh look at like the velocity of viral stuff now yeah it feels so much faster that like things like this filter out and this feels like a key and peel sketch this is like this is like the high on pot new sketch where the guy who like made the high on pot news is like uh the same the next day he's like meeting the president yeah

like that's what it feels like but like i feel like in 2010 it's like ain't nobody got time for that was in yeah for a decade hide your wife and like oh it's this guy again he's in every you know he was in the logan paul movies and no and it's like when antoine dodson did uh hide your kids hide your wife on the on the news and was like sampled in a bunch of stuff like didn't get a reality show didn't get a 30k appearance fee at like a club and i'm like i mean presumably it would be a streaming service reality show because they can just knock it out for a relatively low price like and not even have to schedule it on like tv or anything they could just i think it's also interesting that we literally know nothing about her she doesn't have social media like there's nothing like because

i watched some stuff of hers i like felt like i was getting fireside chats like onto my feed where it's like a statement from the hop to a girl and then it'll be like a hopper goes i don't have any i don't have any social media if you see any social media. If you see any social media, like that's not me. We're we're. And if you're seeing any merch, that's not me. We're working on official merch. My fellow Americans got spit on it, by the way. But you got to spit on that thing.

Now watch this drive. And it's, you know, it's so it's like, it's, I, it's like so funny cause I don't, we don't know anything about her and I'm not saying that she is not deserving of fame or anything like that. Uh, because I don't think that there's like a such thing as like just being deserving of fame. But I find it interesting like when we decide to like promote, this is why people say things are like industry plants i feel because it's like i blinked and then suddenly it was like uh donald trump is considering hawk to a girl as his uh you know uh his running mate his running mate yeah you try and find more information communications director vice president hawk to a girl it is it's like the cultural version of when

you hear about a meme you try looking it up on twitter and it's only reactions to it like no but what what's going on i don't get it how and she's doing exactly the right thing where it's like depending on your situation like she's capitalizing on this to the best of her degree because who knows how long this will like last. It's very smart, but it is like so interesting to like the next day be like, okay, I quit my job. I moved to Hollywood.

I'm like, there's a small part of me that's like, slow down, but then I'm also like, you can always move back home. You have a supportive, you have a supportive, it sounds like she has a supportive community.

It's like seeing the Miles Morales kid driving a Ferrari. I'm like, whoa, don't do this. Do more Galaxy Universe. Or it's when, you know, when like Gypsy Rose got out of jail and then everything was like, it was like so much fame so quickly as this person. It seemed to negatively impact her. Like she's now retreated.

I mean, even that feels like it had less cultural longevity than Walk to a Girl. Yeah. And she had already had a TV show about her life. But it's like, okay, she's being brought out to all these shows. Like she came out to a Luke Bryan show. She came out to a, you know, this club. And I'm like, that's great. It's cool. But i just find it so

like i i want to be clear that i'm not trying to shame or put down hawk to a girl i just think it's so fascinating and in like such a sex repressed society that we live in uh her basically like if you watch that interview it's like very sex positive you know what i mean and best way to get over someone's under the next and she's southern and like and then being like super southern and then like being at these country shows and all these things and i'm like when she's a pretty woman and she's a pretty woman jesus and it's just like one of those things where if if it's so interesting like who's allowed to be sexual?

Who's allowed to sexualize themselves? Not that she's sexualizing herself, but it's like I believe that everyone should be. It's not like I would say I consider myself a sex positive person where it's like, hey. I just remember and this is just like my feed.

I think about like Bobby Altoff who immediately was like, everybody was like, I think it's valid criticism that like she was interviewing all these rappers and then her bit was like not getting it. And it could be like very, could be seen as like kind of belittling or like making light of the work that, you know, people are doing in all these black spaces. And this like white woman is now brought up as this like kind of person with this like huge voice in hip hop culture all of a sudden out of nowhere. So I understand where all the like industry plant stuff comes in with her and then i also

think about like lil nas x where like well lil nas x sex positive uh queer artist and and lil nas x comes out with old town road and everybody's like industry plant one hit wonder and that was like a huge like creative triumph and a big successful commercial product and old town road not a uh talking about sex song right but by virtue of outside of music just being a gay man just being himself that is that was enough to catapult that and i don't know if y'all remember how much stuff there was with old town road and like not being considered in like country charts and like all that stuff and most people were saying like one hit wonder and like everybody it seemed like they wanted him to fail and having a push somehow some pushback about if it was it's not valid not just

as a country song but as art output because kids kids like this, they have been tricked by the gay agenda. They say it's different. And like Lil Nas X is like a very like diverse and talented artist, like both visually and musically. And is working so hard in doing so much of his artistic expression. And it's not just a hit wonder. It just breaks it. Only, but only to be constantly like belittled.

And then like, meanwhile, it's like, Hey, she was talking about blowjobs. Make her the most famous woman alive. Like, it's just,

I'm curious to see how her brand is distributed. I don't want to take anything away from her because she's absolutely capitalizing it on. She rocks. Which she should do. It's, it's more of the public that I'm. It's just an interesting like public reaction. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm wondering how much, because people are just going to come to it with the down home. Like she's the girl from Belfast, Tennessee. Just like me too. I'm from some, you know, one of those. And then they're going to maybe watch the reality show and she's just going to reference sex in any kind of broad, vague way because it's a show about life which involves that i'm gonna be like this is the other thing is like when stuff happens like this i'm thinking about like okay how do you turn

this into something that has gas and then also how do you get the right people around you that you're not being drained of everything. In entertainment especially, there's so many sharks in the water who just want to drain you for every last drop. And so it would suck if she had a bad experience. So I hope she does have the right... I hope her manager and her team that she's building is a good team and is going to actually

build something long-term for her, especially if she's about to uproot her life and like kind of go whole hog no pun intended on this uh entertainment thing but just watching these interviews it's like so interesting to go from like i quit my job now we're working on shows and we're working on podcasts and we're tv shows and appearances and i was like is it is am i crazy to say, can we pump the brakes a tad? It kind of feels like how movies- Or is it like you have to strike while the iron's hot? So it's like, I'm of two minds.

You know how movies and TV will have, if they write someone that goes viral and then becomes famous, they kind of don't really understand how it works. They just go like, because they come up with something and it's like, it's the football man. And then like football man given 2000 deals today. And it's like, okay,

well, this is not really how it goes. These people often don't become famous. Maybe something moves. This actually is how it's going. It is. It feels like someone won a contest to be famous and now everyone is in on it.

And again, that is not about any lack of uh talent or skill or anything from uh hawk 2 i know people do that a lot with kim kardashian where they're like she has no skills and she's so famous blah blah and i just think that that ends up like sexist most of the time and it's more like it's more like we haven't even given this girl a chance to demonstrate who she is. And that's what she will be doing with all this content. But it feels a little like putting the cart before the horse because the only thing we have right now is a spit on a penis. When the pandemic first hit and at the beginning of lockdown, there was a TikTok song that was going around that was like, I'm stuck in the house and I'm in the house bored. Yeah.

So that guy, his name is Curtis Roach, and he got famous because of that song. Everyone was doing stuff on TikTok with that song. And that was it, right? You don't hear from him forever. And now he's got his sort of like second career on TikTok. But the thing is, he was a rapper before that song took off. So he's been like working on his career and like trying. Right. And then that song takes off and he, you know, is like, great, I'm a rapper. I'm going to, I'm going to use this. And he connected with Tyga and other people and like, and Tyga, uh, he's sketch, but yeah. I mean,

but I just mean like actually made moves with his career and then, uh, now has, uh, you know, does like a lot of stuff on TikTok and has like an audience that he, it's his career. Yeah. But that happened because he did all of this work leading up to that internet moment. Yeah. It's like Doja Cat's experience to some extent. Yeah. I mean, she had an interesting pivot because making music for a long time, publishing music

for a long time, and then did a meme song that blows up gets on color show does the color show that blows up yeah and then now is afforded a degree of legitimacy and again not a criticism it's just funny to see uh the experience of someone it's like before doja cat published any music it's like if she posted a screenshot of like i'm working on a song and people are like reality show yeah this is guy you get around yeah and i don't again it's like if she posted a screenshot of like, I'm working on a song and people are like, reality show. This is how you get around. Yeah, and I don't, again, it's like nothing is real in entertainment. I don't believe there's any sort of like meritocracy to it.

It's a very good job this doesn't materialize. Hopefully it does. I think it's just that I am very protective of creators and want to make sure that if that's what they want to do, that there's a way to do that sustainably, because you don't want to have someone like kind of just change their whole life around and then be in a very like, in a worse off situation than they ended up in. And for somebody to kind of wring the juice out of hog to a girl and then like, yeah, yeah.

And to what Jordan was saying earlier, it is that sort of like Hollywood story of overnight success is usually not true. Like there is no overnight success because people usually have a long time of working up to their career before they find any recognition. And but we don't. But this seems actually like overnight success. I generally have a negative view of people who do those, like, I'm going to go to the strip of whatever the, but where the bars are in the big city. I'm going to interview like drunk people as they're like coming out of the bars and going home or they're, they're bar hopping, going to the next place. Because usually that stuff is agenda and it's meant to like make people look bad. A clip like that would be motivated by look at these women. But I'm curious what that experience must be like to like be doing something

and then like you have somebody on your show and then it's like, oh, we found the next. He's like, what about me? I know there's a million of these guys, but perhaps now there will be a billion of these guys. Because that is pretty unheard of. Trying to find the next Hawk to a girl. Yeah. Okay.

Limited Hawk to a merch now available. From the. Did they even. I also have heard that these, this account has been trying to copyright claim. Oh, boy. Like some videos. Oh videos oh that is the hawk to a video oh boy okay i don't think that's how to respond to this i can i can see from a psychology standpoint i also don't hawk to it isn't trademarked probably i mean i'm sure the first people that called her were like we've got to get this like trademark I mean it's

I think these guys were asking questions about your roster and shit like that so I'm like usually that's so I do want to say that she does have a very like electric personality and I again I know I've said it a million times

I don't want to I hope it doesn't seem like I've been trying to do anything that takes away from it. I love it. I hope she does. Yeah, I hope she does great things. It would be incredible if, you know, like she has this huge career and she's super talented and whatever.

Like that would be such a cool story. Or she figures it out. Or she figures it out. Because it's like, look, it's like no one wants, if she felt like she was in like a dead end job and has an opportunity to like make a living and be happier doing something else, then like that is the thing I think we should celebrate. I do also find it like really just appealing

that she didn't have social media. That is very cool. That's like somebody saying they're like a black belt. That's like such a key part of this because it's like she hasn't been working up to this moment. The moment happened and she's taking advantage of it. And that's cool. And it is antithetical to like the usually, I don't know these guys specifically, but usually the narrative that they're spinning is that like girls have this big roster. They've always got these DMS doing whatever. Why do you know what to do for that?

That's weird. And so here's the situation where this person doesn't actually fit their, fit their narrative. And they are just like a person without like a social media presence. I actually have to get ready more than one time out of the week now. I'm not allowed to look like Adam Sandler anymore. Well, it's not all delightful. I have to convince my pawpaw. Stop asking me for the link in bio for my OnlyFans. I don't have an OnlyFans and there will never be an OnlyFans. I just make funny jokes.

That's all I do. I'm tired of the imposters and all the fake accounts. I don't have any kind of social media just yet besides Snapchat. But when I have the rest of it, you guys will be the first to know when I launch it. You know, like, I wish her success. She seems very sweet. Doesn't she seem like,

so, like, from any, say, Netflix reality show, doesn't she seem like the one that would become a darling on that show? And then be in all the, like, all-star ensemble ones yeah yeah like she's just she'll be on the challenge oh yeah or like and everyone's like dude i love get hayley and more stuff remember what she said hot tour when they were at the beach or something let's do mail let's move on to some mails we do have a po box it's in the description uh and we received a few things a few things and uh did we i think i

texted about it when it happened but it was a couple weeks ago we got a big jacob was the person who sent us the pauper decks not this jacob better jacob and uh it was uh they sent two pauper commander decks uh and i i did i have been rifling through them. Someone sent a postcard that says, Hi Jarvis and Jordan and Stas and Jacob. Been a fan of the pod for a minute, never sent fan mail before. Shout out from Seattle. This is supposed to be an invite, but I just think it looks cool. Yeah, because it looks like an invite to something. Love you.

I'm sorry. Keep making cool shit. Akrion sent us this postcard. Love you. I'm sorry. Keep making cool shit. Acreon sent us this postcard. Thank you, Acreon. That's a cool name. That's a cool name. Jordan sucks. This is from Rory.

They've kidnapped a member of our family. Thank you guys. You're so funny together. Used to watch all the Dharman Bingo. More collab main channel videos. That's true. I start high school this fall, and I'm really nervous are so funny together. You used to watch all the Dhar Mann bingo. More collab main channel videos. That's true. I start high school this fall and I'm really nervous. So shout out.

I definitely want to get out and make something of myself in the future. It sounds like you're right on track. This is your huge first step. Going to high school, but also a big step. And they said they're glad we're content creators. I think that's super sweet. Rory, good luck in high school. That's so awesome.

Good luck in high school. I don't know when. So wait, you're 14 when you start high school, right? Yeah. I don't remember anything like before 20. So I remember. Is that people scared of it? I was terrified.

I just remember classes being way harder. And also all of a sudden you went from being the eldest at your previous school to the youngest yeah and all of a sudden you're like wait oh i guess i'm a little baby and everyone else is pretty you're acclimatized pretty quick and and good luck and all that yeah yeah it's gonna be great uh this one's from felix oh this is the both of you. Oh, this is sick. Whoa. Felix is at the bottom. Hey, gloomy fellas. Listening to your podcast every week is always something I look forward to. It's so refreshing to see other guys talk so openly and authentically about mental health and other things also.

For Jordan, I know you said you wanted a drawing of what we, the audience, think your feet look like. However, when do you do that? However, I'd like to draw you something a little more uh resemblant of your appearance so i give you jordan as a foot we have to show people this is actually you know oddly enough this is exactly what my feet look like it's uh it's got the wait can we show the camera it also has felix's at if you want to follow them haunting i look pissed you're like it looks like were turned into a foot and you're not happy about it

I get stepped on every day constantly to be fair this is I mean very generous they gave me far daintier feet than I have

my real feet are I'd say twice as long and half the thickness I love Felix's avatar because they're wearing a shirt that says band shirt god this is charming

that's actually a sick shirt very charming they said for Jarvis since there was no specific request other than to send magic to the gathering cards, I am more of a Pokemon bastard myself. Me too.

I wanted to make you into a Pokemon card. Whoa, this is so sick. God damn. This is so sick. I want to frame this. That is very sick. What's your I'm a psychic type. I can do trying my best

and I can do sad boys attack. Without me? Yeah. An entertainer, creator, and podcast host. Weaknesses. It says everything, dude. Oh my God. Look at how good Felix's penmanship is.

That's like so small to write. Wow. I hope they're making comics. Yeah, I hope Felix is making comics. Oh, it's two gold bars. That's what that is. Gold bars. Oh, that's awesome.

Sorry, I wrote this all small. An apology for the size of the text. Hello, I'm Juniper. My actual note is on the back with a poorly made magic card. We'll look at that last. I've been watching Sad Boys since 2020. Genuinely one of the two podcasts I consistently come back to. As someone, more specifically, a black person with depression and anxiety,

it's nice to see other black people be very open about it. Not just joking around, but getting into things like meds and wanting to isolate. It means a lot when so many act as if these things are taboo and we just need to suck it up. Also, on that note, it's cool to see other black nerds who aren't stereotypically black. How others have put it is in parentheses.

I've always been a very quote unquote weird black girl. Read, I liked anime, gaming, art, et cetera. And I spoke very quote unquote white. We get it. Which I also hate that idea. We get it. But I've had both black and non-black people jokingly mock me for not being black enough

due to my hobbies, likes, way of speaking. Yeah, that was a, when I was younger, that was definitely a big thing. The idea of being like, you're not black enough for like an anime, that is antiquated. That is a little way out of date. Hopefully we're working our way out of that one.

And then the magic card is of Jordan's foot. Oh, okay. All right. Where's my face? There's no my face on this one. A poor drawing of a foot. I don't know anything about magic. On men's feet finder, not regular feet finder.

Fair enough. Jordan's foot. Jesus, dude. This is an expensive card. This is five misc and two smiling faces. I don't do anything. Do you want to crack this one? That says Crutcher.

Crutcher. I don't know if that's a focus. Oh, it's got a little magic sign on the back. I didn't even notice that. M&M's is the different colors. Oh, Magic B.O.B. featuring Rivers Cuomo. That's the, I got the magic in me. Rivers Cuomo on that song?

Yeah, that's him. I did not know that. That was my impression of him. Oh, Jesus. I did not know that. And then B.O.B. goes, I got the magic, baby. I've got a magic baby. That's what I would always make that joke in middle school.

Where is this? I can just put it over here and then you can- The loot pile. This is the loot pile. I'm such a little tart for a nice postage stamp. Me too. Our friend Lauren does very nice postage stamps. She sent me a letter like end of last year and I carefully preserved the stamp.

I go to the post office like once every few months to get some very nice stamps. Dear Sad Boys, it's me again, only this time. It's my second time sending fan mail. I wanted to give an update on life and say how much I appreciate both of your kind words. I feel like I remember this. I started treatment for both my ADHD and anxiety. They're working wonders.

I have a much better handle on my anxiety. I feel like I can hold it together and not let it swallow me so easily. That's sick. I had to up it, it together and not let it swallow me so easily. That's sick. I had to up it, but I'm doing better on the higher dose. And then they, they all started the ADHD med

and it's been such a huge help. This is so fucking sick. I don't remember, we did talk about this recently. I'm pretty sure this. Someone talked about it and they wanted to explore meds and then we encouraged them, I feel like.

Yes. I want to say this was a pass physical mail. Rather than it taking so long to get my brain into gear, I feel like I can just pop it without much of an issue. It's nice. It's so different. I feel much more capable. My memory still isn't the best, but meds don't fix everything.

Yeah, that's okay. That's something to rabble with, but a lot of practical covering strategies like being the note-taking bastard I recommend. Oh, wow, there's a lot of here. I'll read the rest a little later, but this is all really positive, and it sounds like, aha. I don't know if either of you are cooks.

Cooking up a banger podcast. I'm like Elon Musk. I cook up a lot of memes cook on the court yeah i was yeah i'm always cooking uh like tom mcdonald i'm always cooking up bangers between my girlfriend and i british thanks vid between my girlfriend and i we have plenty of food allergies and sensitivities so i've learned to cook a lot of different foods that i would usually that usually i would be able to buy at the store, but this is by far the best flatbread I've ever had.

And then we get a full- Oh, a recipe? A flatbread recipe with instructions and everything. Wait, that's actually really cool. Thank you, Vinny. Vinny, shout out. Thank you for the flatbread hardware. Maybe we should just make the damn flatbread.

I'm not a cook, I'll admit that. Blankenship. Sorry? Blankenship. Sorry? Blankenship, I think, is the handle here. Ah. They sent us Magic the Gathering cards. Whoa! Yeah.

Oh, hell yeah. So we've got- Both creatures. Here, let's show them to the camera. Can we get this in focus? So the Jordan card is called Jordan Adika, Mr. Money. Swamp type. And it costs one and a black.

He's got haste, flash, and death touch. So he can attack immediately. He can be played at instant speed. And if you touch him, you die. I died. Oh, no. Now I have to do a better version. And then for double black, Jordan Adika, Mr.. Money gains plus zero, plus three until end of turn.

So the plus zero, plus three, you play this early. You're a human sad boy, by the way. Oh, that makes sense. You're also. Yeah, so you play this early and then, or you can play it down as a blocker for two. And if you want to keep them alive, maybe like a little combat trick action. Bump his toughness. You got his toughness.

And then you've taken more of an aggressive stance. Yeah, this is Jarvis Johnson Gold for one and two blue. Activated ability for one blue, summon a one-one premium viewer creature token to the battlefield, hell yeah. Single one. And then the tap ability is all premium viewers get plus one plus zero bonus

as long as Jarvis Johnson Gold is on the battlefield. And also the flavor text on Jarvis is we love you and the flavor text on Jordan is that's great. I'd like to imagine that racially speaking, the other one is a white. That was the black is my mom, the white is my dad. I would love to see more custom magic cards of us like maybe you create like partner commanders or something i do i love oh dude two planeswalkers oh two planeswalkers i'm not hey look you don't have to uh okay so this one has a pack in it whoa hey i did ask for magic cards last time and uh I'm once again asking you for magic cards. You've delivered the extreme.

Actually, just before I forget, can I just throw out, it is crazy to me still that people care this much and would send things in. And it is like very profoundly sweet. And it lifts me up when I'm down. I think this is- Yeah, this is very, very sweet. This is actually, I'm genuinely going to try this.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is also so michael sent us a double masters 2022 pack and also uh a personal message that we're not gonna read aloud but i have read it and i just wanted to say uh this means a lot and thank you so much for sharing with us and it's kind of why we do this thing so um michael's also v8 ninja on the sad boys discord shout out to the sad boys discord jarvis i heard you were collecting magic cards so i thought i would help out include with this letter should be a draft pack of double masters 2022 i pre-ordered an entire draft booster box of the set thinking i would have a few fun evenings with some friends the problem is that none of my friends were into drafting magic

the result is i've been sitting on this box for nearly two years imitating all the people who quote-unquote invest in magic product uh to put it bluntly that shit is cringe i own all these draft sets uh of a premium set i should do something with them if i can share the experience of opening a pack and getting an awesome card then i think the purchase will be worth it i'm gonna crack this right now double masters 22 great set shout out to michael v8 ninja on the sabloys discord Double Masters 22, great set. Shout out to Michael. V8 Ninja on the Sad Boys Discord. It's perfect timing, by the way,

because I've returned to being the Magic. Got a zombie token. We got... Damn, these are tasteful. This is... Oh, yeah, the common... We got a hollow at the uncommon... Oh, there's a couple... I haven't opened 2022.

Okay. So, Scab Clan Giant. A little time. Battlefield Promotion is a hollow slot. The rare is Leonin Arbiter. Players can't search libraries. Oh, snap. Turn off the tutors is what you said.

Any player may pay two for that player to ignore this effect. So you've created like a stacks effect on searching library. Ooh, another rare because double, double the rares. Reveal the cards in your library. Whoa, all of them? An opponent chooses from among them a creature card, a land card, a non-creature card, and a non-land card. You put the chosen cards into your hand, then shuffle.

Wow, so just like a lot of value. Very diverse land. Yeah, that's green, blue, and red. Ooh, just looking at the uncommons. There's a few commons that I need, so I'm just poking around. Oh, kind of do dig that. Do you need a Jordan Adika Mr. Money? I think I might have to tech in Jordan Adika Mr. Money.

It's not tournament legal. Oh, that's weird. People are scared of him. Yours is. Yours is considered not tournament legal. Oh, that's weird. People are scared of him. Yours is. Yours is considered a baby card. Yeah, mine is meta, actually. If you want to start opening this one. Whoa, speaking of beautiful mail.

Oh, my God. And I'm going to open this one. That one seems like it'll take a little bit more care to open. I need to buy you guys an official fan mail letter opener. Okay, so this looks like a jewelry box. Oh, my God. Are we about to be proposed to? Hold on.

And there is not a name? If you open it, you are officially engaged. Okay, there's not a name on this one. Oh. Oh, it's like special letter tape that doesn't have... Oh. Oh. Whoa.

It's like a little creepy guy. And he's holding a foot. He's holding your foot. Oh, but come on, mate. Okay, this is the most accurate rendering of my foot. So, I mean, it is dismembered. This box is very cool. It's like lined with like eyeballs.

This is crazy. It's amazing. Unless I'm missing lined with like eyeballs. This is crazy. That's amazing. Unless I'm missing something. I don't see a note. So maybe they wanted to remain anonymous or this is a threat. Yeah. Is this one of those like

if the mob leaves a fish at your doorstep, it means you're slipping with the fishes. Or it's a cursed item and you're forever cursed. He's telling me to do stuff. I want you to play. I want you to do it. I want you to have a nice day. This is not fan mail.

This is a Japanese Challengers poster. Which I named this guy. Last but not least, we have a bunch of stickers and a very nice note, very beautifully written from Grace and dated. Wait, what day is it? July 10th.

Oh, this is a month ago. I thought it was today and I was like, and it's dated my address. Dear Jordan and Jarvis alphabetically by surname, I was overjoyed to see y'all reading fan mail on the most recent Sad Boys podcast episodes. As you can probably tell, I am a lifelong and habitual letter writer, all. It's a very good handwriting.

Yeah, knowing what a delight it is to receive snail mail. Snail mail. I thought I'd join other folks who've sent it. As a woman with multiple neurodivergences and a toxic cocktail of too many mental illnesses. I've never felt so seen as I do watching your podcast. Even just listening to it feels like hanging out with the coolest, slightly older cousins in the world. Slightly older.

Wait, cousin is actually perfect. I do like cousin. You're smart, goofy, funny, poetic, witty, and hilarious. I couldn't agree more. Oh, working my way through the catalog and enjoying new episodes that if my husband and I met you, we'd get along wonderfully. Hell yeah, we can fist bump. That said, I'm thrilled to just get to consume

every crumb of content you put out. That's so kind. Oh, and they love stickers, yeah. These are cute. I wonder where these are from. Talking about my special interests isn't boring. I hope not. That's the podcast.

Give me, give me, give me, give me. Whoa. There's like a bunch of stuff in here and there's a bunch of notes written about it. It's from Abigail. And they sent a few little glitters and bits and bubs. Love from your fans in Portland. That's really nice. Portland Rose Festival.

With a big rainbow flag heart. Thank you so much, Abigail. What's Portland Rose Festival? Is it just rainbow flag heart. Thank you so much, Abigail. What's Portland Rose Festival? Is it just like roses in Portland? Yeah, it's where all the most famous roses come. They come into Portland and they all hang out. It's the opposite of the roses. So last but not least, there's another community bit.

We're trying to do some more community stuff in the show. Putting it towards the end for the real ones, if you know what I'm saying. But we have a new member of our team who is affectionately known as the intern. And the intern, they chose that name, by the way. They're being paid for their work. They're being paid.

They're being paid. And work. They're being paid. And they're also non-intern. We talk a lot about the proverbial or hypothetical sad boys bingo, where we talk about a lot of the same things. We have our tropes. We have things that we go back to. And we didn't actually have a bingo board until today, tropes. We have our tropes. We have things that we go back to.

We didn't actually have a bingo board until today, so the intern has prepared for us, who is paid and not an intern, has prepared Sad Boys Bingo, and we have not seen it yet. I was thinking we could go through this. Maybe we add

some things. Maybe we take away some things. Maybe we get some feedback from the audience and then we can start putting a link to generate a bingo board in the Sad Boys episode so that you can play along I like that Jarvis gets new interest that's very funny

and I think that would count even if it's a revitalized interest because it's really just like Jarvis' hyper focus moves to a new thing it's a pivot Tom McDonald mentioned. Fuck. They got us this week. They got us this week.

Jordan leaves to pee. Well, look. Is that always in the edit? MTG talk lasting 15 minutes. Guilty. Ghost sighting. Well, yeah, we haven't talked about the ghost. Yeah, we haven't talked about the ghost.

Have we had many or was it just that? And we won't talk about it right now. Everybody be cool. Everybody be cool. They don't exist. And maybe if they didn't, we said something mean about the ghost. Have we had many or was it just that? We won't talk about it right now. Everybody be cool. Everybody be cool. They don't exist. Maybe if they didn't, we said something mean, something would happen to us. The boys yes and three times in a row.

That's very funny. I would want to see timestamps of that happening. Yeah, I'd be curious. I mean, that is, I definitely understand where that's going from. That's a nuanced choice. Discussion of AI, a classic. Anastasia on screen appearance.

Rare. Rare, but so if you got that on your board,'re like nervous But you're like will I see a foot Something of a ghost Also just to mention You guys aren't saying I'm not allowed on screen That is my choice That is Anastasia's choice

But it is It is funny because also Anastasia is not always here for every episode but it is sometimes she's like upset about something and refuses to say anything

your arms are crossed but this is very funny NSYNC laugh I think it would be fun to see this is like too much work for the average person

but if someone really feels like it if they're playing along with this bingo board it would be funny to see them timestamp each of the things. Like NSYNC laugh at 1538.

That's how you catch us. And then- That happens. We could, oh, well also, is like when the episode comes out, maybe you can submit bingo with the timestamps and then like the intern will go in for the first couple and be like, bingo.

And then maybe we repost them on the story or something. What's the big reward for winning? Your address? I bet that's going to be on this bingo board. And if not, let's add it. We'll post them on the story or something. Jordan mumbles something to the audience. What that is in practice is Jordan doesn't even realize he's talking something leaks out uh dating discussion okay

jarvis forgets jordan's name um it's good that it's written here actually for me why would that happen um no reason you just said it the free space jarvis fully lays down that might happen on nights. Yeah, you might have to play this a little bit with nights. Mention of Jacob's setup. Sometimes hard to ignore. I was just taking a photo of some of the magic cards we got and while I was doing it, I decided to angle it away

so it didn't have Jacob's feet in the photo. But they are exposed. Oh, I want to see what people's pitches for additional squares would be. Because we've got Boba video replay. A rare one, but a good one. And it's potent. Yeah. Oh, every time.

I don't think I've ever not laughed. I was thinking, I don't know if this is already on there, actually. Did you read them all already? No, no, we're still going through. Did I give you the ick? This very episode. Yeah, we had it this episode. The boys accidentally touched feet. Another rare, but a treat. I do think the ick. This very episode. Yeah, we had it this episode. The boys accidentally touch feet.

Another rare but a treat. I do think that happened today. Today? Maybe when we did the couch thing. It could have possibly happened. Oh, it must have. Do your feet have to touch or is it you? We did touch feet today if it is that.

Jordan mentions a museum. Well, no, it's more that I'm interested in the museums that you guys attend and own and own right like the big loser museum or the big dumb museum you go every day uh australian accents that one's pretty common madam webb mentioned that happened this episode was so generic uh conspiracy discussion okay cool okay jordan pretends not to So generic. Conspiracy discussion. Okay, cool. Jordan pretends not to know a guest's name. Is that something I do? I didn't know that. NBA mention.

I almost mentioned the NBA like three times. WNBA mention as well. Or WNBA. WNBA, yeah, both. Because I was going to mention the Kawhi was scrimmaging and and now he's not going to be on the Team USA for the Olympics. Did you see there was a WNBA post-game media where they were doing it over Zoom, and it was the Chicago Sky.

So it was Angel Reese and Marina and someone else, maybe their coach. And someone on the Zoom didn't mute. And so someone else was asking a question and it got cut off by someone being like, I'm not being intimate with her. And they're like, Angel Reese and Marina both did these cute little reactions.

And the internet sleuths found out someone, some reporter was watching Big Bang Theory. Oh, that's so funny. That's so much worse than saying it themselves. Yeah. Is watching Big Bang Theory on Zoom when you're supposed to be in your meeting where is that on the scale of like wearing the top of a suit and then like shorts like below it

I think it's closer to wearing the top of the suit and nothing under it or a t-shirt with a tie on it I think the story is that they were muted but the person running the room accidentally unmuted them. I didn't know you could unmute someone. That feels violating.

Or I don't know if that's true. They're like, I command you to, I command to hear. Like, you're like, oh, sorry, I have to mute. I have an important conversation. And it's like, I'm going to listen to it. Stop now. They were here. It's like, are they a zinger?

Oh. Okay, sorry. Great. Okay. Well, thanks to the intern for making this. This is amazing. A Reddit gold for you, good sir. A Reddit gold for you, the intern.

Do you think that final square should encompass all? I think. Does that also include the phrase marketplace of ideas or not? Going Reddit mode. Yeah, going Redo mode. Definitely pitch us other squares because what we can do is on the bingo thing that I use for Garmin Bingo,

you can have more than the number of squares so that you generate different bingo boards. So it's like a randomized bingo board. Yeah, so then you can link your bingo. We can just give them a template if they really want to play bingo in the comments. And I don't know what that'll do, if YouTube will think we're doing something weird or not.

And maybe we'll just do it on social media, who knows. But I do like it on YouTube because you can put the timestamps and then you can click into the timestamp. But on the bingo app that we use, you get a little ID for your unique card. And you can also put in way more things than there are spaces so that you get randomized. Like lots of variety. So that's awesome.

I'm excited to play this. This is very funny. I do love, the one I keep looking at is Jarvis fully lays down. Because sometimes I do be tired. Also, what about Jarvis lays Mike on his chest? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Honestly, pro move.

Yeah. We can also add to the surplus squares, like Jordan holds microphone in bizarre way. I remember earlier, I didn't even notice until I was doing it, but I was like, and I just started like testing a knife for the perfect balance. I just lent it like this and was just started like testing a knife for the perfect balance. I just lent it

like this and was just like yeah, that's a thing. Occasionally you'll end up here or something. Jordan hit something with his foot. Oh, well, I mean that should just be the free space. Right. The foot free space. Jarvis protects something from Jordan's feet.

Yeah, either food, rare cards or my feet from scissors or not, like literally blades yeah I have no foot self preservation do you stub your toes yeah that's because

I have huge clown feet but I stub my toes all the, I mean I guess I have huge clown feet too yeah that's fucked up oh sorry I feel, I guess I have huge clown feet too. Yeah, that's fucked up. Oh, sorry. I feel like I have like average feet. I feel like my feet should be slightly bigger, but they're not. You know what they call, when you buy new, you know what they call new balances when you buy them? What?

Old balances. Old balances. Nice, man. We end every episode of Sad Boys with a... Okay, well, actually, so we're heading on over to Sad Boys Nights, the premium Patreon podcast that is not free. It's $5 to get in.

You get... We just hit 69 episodes. 69, 40 minute to an hour to even longer episodes. So it's over 50, 60 plus hours of content that you could just pay once and then bounce if you need to. But only use your discretionary spending on it. Today we'll be talking about the tea of when I encountered someone I made a video about.

Oh yeah, and speaking of 69, I think we're going foot to head. Oh. The other thing is that we don't talk about it a lot, but there are also higher tiers to the Patreon. The $15 tier gets you access to a monthly reaction video from us, like a commentary style, like us watching

a Jubilee and chatting. And usually those are pretty lengthy as well. We're going to be recording that today as well, so it's on the mind. So if you're already a Patreon subscriber, you've probably seen that today as well. So it's on the mind. So if you're already a Patreon subscriber, you've probably seen that in your feed. No pressure. But the content exists for those who are interested.

So all that being said. We end every episode of Sad Boys with a particular phrase. We love you. And we're sorry. Recap. VidCon, you're at a party. Someone approaches you, you made a video. It's at the TikTok party.

What happens is this woman walks up to me and she's like hey i'm a big fan can i get a photo and i was like of course and then her person that she came to the party with was this guy but then he comes up shake his hand i go what's up man he's like uh do you recognize him oh yeah okay oh yeah and uh and he's like, uh, do you recognize him? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And, uh, and he's like, dude, don't even worry about the videos. I get it. And I was like, I wasn't worried. He's like, he's like, no, I get it. You know, you gotta make stuff for the algorithm. And I'm like, well, let's pump the brakes. I believe everything I said in my video, and I'll say it to your face. This is what I said to him.

Gucci girl, Gucci girl, how you doing? How you moving, girl? Moving, girl. How's your day looking? That future girl, future girl, yeah, we on now. Take my money, go away. All you want is go to rich for me.