Sad Boyz - The Prediction Market Celebrity Problem

Episode Date: June 26, 2026

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Welcome to Stab Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. I'm Jordan. Is my hair weird? No. No. Okay. It's like I just, people with curls know it's like there's like a multi-day process of

you like do your hair and then like I don't like it immediately after I do it. But then like the next week after we're chilling. It's like cultivating a plant. Yeah, yeah, exactly. The agriculture process of getting the curls just right. Okay. So we're doing this thing that I love and it's unique to our podcast called enjoying time. with your friends before the show.

Before getting back to work. Getting back to the, getting back to the old content minds. I have to put the accent on. So I said, what did I say? I'm a truther about something. And which is a really, really funny thing to not follow up with the information. So we are both kind of stands. Okay, by the way, no free clout.

But if we were to give any free clout, it would probably be to I by direct. Yes, you can have that. Because we are like big eye by direct. because you can get glasses so much cheaper relative. Like, I feel like I was scammed as a, as a youth, as a person who was getting into glasses for the first time. I think I was glasses. I was glasses first time, 21.

It's like I was speaking a different language with like a different sentence structure. It was really close. What happened there? Yeah, that was, um, tiny strokes. That was, I did, I did like Japanese sentence structure. Yeah, it was a close translation. Yeah, yeah.

Um, that guy had the woke up. It's like, excuse me. That's awesome The Okay So When I first got glasses I feel like I walked into

A glasses store And I paid like A hundred dollars for glasses And I was like Wow I guess this is just what glasses Which like What they do an amazing magic thing

I guess it must like There must be a guy Like forging it in a With like a kiln It must be like a lot of work To get the lenses just right But then like It's like you are

so precious about your glasses and maybe you have ADHD and you sit on your classes and you mess them up. And then you find out that they have a machine at like optometrists and glasses stores where they can like realign them. Yeah, but then you lose them before you get to the before. Or maybe a screw comes out. Basically like someone steals them out of your fucking car. Or you just want to wear it or you just someone steals them out of your car. Along with your aquifer and your charger.

Well, I wanted to get a tattoo and I couldn't see very well. Where's my arm? But more practically, you just want to be able to wear multiple glasses styles without breaking the bank. It sounds like a fucking head. It really is. Very organic. I just got a Venmo transaction from them. This is, dude, I swear to God, if I Buy Direct wants to sponsor us, it is the smoothest possible sponsorship. Because I own like 10 pairs of IByDivores.

We will take it in credit. Just because their glasses are like fairly cheap. But the thing I'm a truth are about, and look, I Buy Direct is not, they're not. they're not immune from this. They're not immune from this truthorism, which is every time you buy glasses, you can choose to buy a bunch of fancy bullshit in your lenses. And it like multiplies the cost of the glasses by like a significant amount.

It is the Spirit Airlines method. I actually have become a truther and I'm not, I'm getting default lenses and it's fine. Bro, I don't know what this anti-glaher fucking nonsense is. I can see the blue light reflecting in your glasses. You got my big. They fucking caught me. I got my big lens.

I got a good chunk of Project Hail Mary and piss filter. Before I went like, it's literally not worth it. I have, um, I don't know. I've never noticed it not glaring. I've never noticed it not getting scratched. You're never like, um, ah, I can't see because of the glare. It's like, it's like the same. I don't know.

I can be completely off base and I don't want to do the thing where it's like, well, actually for someone with this very specific, astigmatism they like need to have. I don't mean that. For myself though, I found that I can wear more styles of glasses. And I also don't have major, I don't have major,

um, vision issues. I have eye strain stuff for screens, which is like, I'm looking at screens all the time and I, uh, used to get headaches and then that's why I ended up getting, uh,

glasses. So I have a very minor situation, but you know, my phone, I'm looking at my phone, I'm looking at my laptop all the time. So I usually keep my anti-social media more like a black mirror. And so I kind of have my glasses for that purpose.

To be the person with slightly more issue, I have to have my glasses on more. I have degenerative eyes. So it's like I do agree with what you mean. It's almost like having the in-game payments that pop up. The like micro-transactions. Is adding stuff to your lenses. But that being said, I have progressive lenses. So I have a different prescription of top than on bottom.

No, no, that's a good point. There is that there are practical things to add to your lenses. But the options are sometimes, do you want like our default shit ass lenses? Or do you want good, beautiful lenses? You know, you can. And I feel like if you call their bluff and get shit ass lenses, the quality difference is not very big. Would you like 30% thinner lenses? And I'm like, I don't know if I've ever noticed the thickness.

It's like if you need bifocals, if you need progressive lenses, if you need any of those types of things. But then you also get into like blue light stuff. And it's like blue light is in a weird scientific like discourse where there's studies that say that it like doesn't do as much as you know it's said to do. And then there's also things like flux or things where you can just like remove like blue light from your screens beforehand. So check out my vibe. What? Jacob, look at my vibe. I'm wearing the,

I'm blocking blue light. See, that's what I mean. You can see it with my swear. And that's, no, and the thing is, like, you can see it

because blue light reflects off of your glasses, and I didn't like that look on camera for me. And it doesn't actually, it doesn't happen to you, to be honest, but it pretty much happens him a lot.

Oh, get his ass. Let's go. No, but I, it became a thing. Okay. Oh, Wednesday, I am the thing. Here's the thing.

All this. Don't sit on your glasses. What do you mean? We're all part of this crazy wild machine. This capitalist monster chugging ahead, no matter what, the arrow of time, you know what I mean? Yeah. Hang on.

Let me get a Pikachu. I'm here. That's my Pikachu salt shaker that's down here from lunch the other day when people's wanted salt. Oh, man. I walked right into that one. That's the faint. That's the jab to like find the defenses before you like come in with Bill.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's big, hey. Didn't think he was going to be this big. I mean, hey, dude, he's fantastic. It's clobbering time, I suppose. He's really buff. Speaking of really buff people, I have more, I have thoughts about that as well. Yes, pre-show also we, while pre-gaming.

So I joked around that you can now buy protein cheese and you, we just eat cheese. It has the protein and you said you had milk. and it had a lot of protein in it. Well, it was just like not a novel like insight. It's more just like a thing that we've always known about food. But like with the like the protein movement, I feel like we're starting to add protein into all kinds of. I think my Nintendo Switch 2 has protein. It came with it.

Yeah, you got the one. I got the one with a disc drive. You got the one with protein. Yeah, I got my anti-blue light blocking and protein plus. Yeah. But it's like kind of it's kind of jumped the shark a little bit. And I feel like we just almost feels like I like time traveling. I'm like, didn't we do this?

We did it. We did it. No, no, no, no. We did it. We, 10 years ago, we did it. We did the work. We did it and then we went. But then I feel like there's this whole thing where it's like actually all of the macronutriots are important because it's like America had this like low fat thing.

And it's like, hey, it's like fat is like used as like a bad word, but it's like an important macronutriot and you're like diet. Also, if you eat nothing but protein, you. get constipated and you need fiber. It's not metabolizes. You know what I've noticed is that we have the whole, everyone's putting protein and everything. I think the one that pisses me off the most is the protein cold foam that coffee shops are doing.

Like, stop it. That's a sweet treat. I don't care about the nutrients of that. Because you got upset about the candy. They're putting protein in my candy. This is a bridge too far. Oh my God, my sister and I were traveling together and she pulled out these, like,

that's not Swedish fish brand, but she pulled out Swedish fish that were protein candy. I was like, stop. Fucked up, bro. I was it. Swedish fish do by default taste like they have a medicinal purpose. So that would kind of make sense.

I really, you know, okay, I'm with you. I like don't I don't fuck with Swedish fish like that. And by the same token, I don't fuck with Sour Patch Kids as well because it's the same. Listen! I got a look. I got a look.

I got a look. from everyone in the room. Jacob looks like you just ate once. Listen. You found that very sour. Jacobs? eyebrows are in his hair. Listen, nah.

I'm more of a trolley gummy worm kind of guy. Okay. To each his own. Okay, to each their own. And the thing with me specifically about sour patch kids is it's the same candy as Swedish fish on the inside. And I never like Swedish fish. And I can taste the Swedish fish in those sour patch kids. Once the sour has been taken care of.

by the mouth. Which is the part I enjoy. Have you considered the trolley gummy worms give me tummy ache? Have I considered that? I also give me tummy ache, but it's because I ate, it's because I ate two packs of them. But I was going to say is that everyone has been advertising protein in this, protein in this, protein in this, and now everyone's starting to advertise fiber. Yes. Because everyone's constipated.

Everyone's constipated. That is so funny. It's create the illness and then sell you the drug. Yeah. It's like the scam-demic. can I talk about this shit? I know we always cut it out of the show, but you gotta do your own research. We forget to cut it out of the show.

The episode is how we're 16 hours long. It's like, we have like 10 minutes of stuff and then you go off for four hours about scam, dim it. And we bring it back to like TikTok or whatever. Your stubble is longer. That's my point. It was something about China. But the thing about buff guys and about protein, like protein, like protein reminds. to be a buff guys. We were talking about how we don't want to get too buff as a joke.

And then we talked about a time skip where it's sad boys, but we're all like really buff and can't move our arms. We have to tilt. But what I was going to say is the morning routine guy. What was, do we remember his name? Is that, um, wait, the, the really, really jacked one that put his face in. The water guy. Ashton Hall. Ash, such a cool name. He, he's too close to like TikTokers that do pranks.

his name is. Anyway, yeah, that's like, um, longhead white boy with his friend Braden or whatever. No,

but I get it. It's just more like quite literally. There's like Bryce Hall. Like made me think of him. Grayson Grindle. Um, but I don't know what he's up to these days. I'm thinking of High Palace age era.

He did a, like he run. He was like a football player and he runs. He's very flexible. He's buff and flexible and can run. And I feel like we took that for granted. But there is that video of him with the bodybuilder dude who's like, a beloved, like, social media bodybuilder guy, but he's, like, not afraid of, like, humiliating

himself. Oh, yeah. And they're, like, racing and, like, he can't really, like, run. And I'm, like, that, it's tricky because, like, if you train as an athlete and then, like, build all that and, like, keep all that, like, you know, flexibility and stuff, you don't lose it, but it's like you kind of need both. Yeah, exactly. Isn't it like Billy Bowles or something?

Larry. Yeah, it's, even, like, seeing the way he has to rotate his shoulders is just so different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, you're just carrying so much more weight. Yeah. And it's harder to run. It's harder to do anything. And so to Ashton Hall, again, he is an athlete.

He is very fast. And that just speaks to like how truly gifted the, you know, when the NFL season starts up, you're going to have to cope with the fact that there is a 350 pound linebacker who can run faster than any of us if we trained five years. Because sometimes they'll like, like the draft, the combine happens, a linebacker who's also seven feet tall. Like it's, it'll be like they're six, eight, you know, like three 50 and then they run like a four, four, 40. And it's like, okay, well, the running back just ran like a four two. And like, so you're really not that meaningfully slower than a guy who's like supposed to be the fast running guy.

He's the little caveat to like all all men are created equal. Like, not like equal. I mean, this guy's kind of fucking up the gradient a little bit. Speaking of sports guys. Oh. Us. Can I show you something? Okay.

A TikTok? I mean, we haven't really done anything like that. Sure. I'll check out the damn platform. Okay, whatever you, if you think. I mean, here's the thing. Oh, can you pass me something under that red pillow? Oh, no.

Just something by the, beneath the red pillar. I'm being attacked from all sides. That is the thing. This is the thing. John Coppenter's the thing. I guess. There's the thing. Erland Holland.

Yeah, Erling Holland. He's a Norwegian soccer player. He's in the World Cup right now. And I didn't really know who he was before the World Cup. I'm learning about him. Most East sports looking guy ever. Someone said, and this is, they minted in a body-shamey way. And I just think it's cool as hell.

said he looks like super boo. He doesn't. That's a cool look. I mean, he's also, everything I've seen about him is awesome. He has great interviews. He's incredible at the game. He's like one of the best strikers, right? He's like one of the best strikers like in football, one of the top three in the Premier

League, I think, this past season. He's super like humble, super down to earth. Like seems like a super cool guy. Like, such a funny, silly, cool guy. And like, uh, Norway recently. qualified for the round of 32. No, right. No, why.

No, no, why. That was Australia talking about one of their opponents in the World Cup. What did you think of that? Hypothetically. I'm going to move on. He was being interviewed

after their last match and the, you know, he was like smiling ear to ear. He's like, I'm so excited. We've made it out of the group stage. It's all I wanted. I'm so happy for us. And then the interviewer was like, your next matches with France.

And France is the favorite to win the whole thing. And he goes, you know what? I can't think about that right now. I'm not going to think about that right now. I'm just want to enjoy this moment. France is probably going to beat us. They're probably going to win this whole tournament. And the lady was shocked.

And then his team got mad at him for saying that because they're like, you can't say, you've got to say we're going to win this. I, you know what? I rock with this, though, because it's like, no, we're going to play a are best, they can be the favorites. Yes. And that's what probably means. Like if I'm a betting man, which is not a thing, I feel like the tenor of that sentence

has changed in recent years. But no, it's like if I was a Kalshi man. Yeah, no, if I was a prediction market man, a PMM. But let's watch this because this is an interesting fun fact about Erling Holland. Holland is known to love to eat children in China and is currently one of the most popular football or soccer players in China as witnessed through his ad with Juan Lel. Yeah, let's go back. I feel like, hold on, I feel like can we just back that up real quick.

I'm probably crazy. Yeah, yeah, no, and I'm totally mishearing something for sure. Erling Holland is known to love to eat children in China and is currently one of the most popular football or soccer players in China. No, that's true. She'll explain more. Okay, okay. This is one of those things where there's like, on Chinese social media, there's all kinds of

like pun things where because in Chinese like how something sounds they then run with that in like a pun way but when it's translated out of it out of out of like um the context that it was on like wabo or something then it doesn't make any sense it's like when drako melfoy was the mascot of like the chinese new year they know what he did right yeah lunar new year and he was literally like all over the place. I think because of like how his name like... Is written in Chinese. Is written in Chinese, yeah.

I don't know anything about Chinese. I just know that this was like a Chinese social media meme. Great photo. And like I think it has something to do with like Fire Horse and like what how his name is represented in the characters. He is incredibly loved by the Chinese netizens and in the first week he joined Doing, the Chinese version of TikTok. He had already gained two million followers. But the nickname given to... Holland in China is Ait Sech's Chouhurydh Mourin Buo or Ma Jin Bu from Dragon Ball Z who loves sweet children.

P.S. I didn't know, like, I've seen Mexico, like, talk about Dragon Ball. Obviously, it's big in Japan. I've never seen China interface with Dragon Ball. Never, never, that's such a weird expression. I've never seen that. That's awesome. It's so exciting.

It makes sense. It all makes sense. It's just like, on social media hasn't made it to me. That is. That's so sick. And like, so the way that I found this out is Echo has been watching World Cup games with me, and she said, do you know this soccer player, Majambu? And I said, you did a good echo impression there, by the way, that was really good. She was in the room.

And they hit this? I was like, from Dragon Ball. Like, what are you talking about? And she was like, no, this guy, Majambu. And I Googled it, Majambu soccer player. And the Dragon Ball guy came up playing soccer. So I was like, I don't know what you're talking about. And then she goes, no, this guy.

And she showed me that Chinese commercial of him drinking the herbal drink. Yeah. And she goes, this guy's huge in China. Echo is of Chinese descent. And so she, and she speaks Mandarin. So she gets a lot of Chinese content on TikTok and stuff. And it's really, so the way that Erling Holland looks reminds them. of a monster.

I look, okay. But it's so endearing. They love him. I know. It's one of those things where it is like a collective, it is mean. And it does sound mean. But if everybody,

if everybody agrees that we're cool with it, and it seems like he's like leaned into it with this, he joined the Chinese social media because he has such a big audience in China. And so I'm like, okay, we're allowed to have fun together. Yes. Like as long as it's not.

And also he's, like a, you know, vastly wealthy, successful, well-known, like, world, world-renowned soccer player, but still, like, you know. If it's, I mean, look, way worse, Dragon Ball characters to be compared to the very least super booze jacked. No, that's what I'm saying, dude. Superboos is like, he fucking, he ravages shit. Awesome vibe.

What the thing? I found a Reddit thread of Chinese nicknames for sports players. Wait, Wimby, Alien, the highest Shalvin Monk, the most. strict father of Chet. Why is it so awesome? Is his son called Chet? No, he's saying he owns Chet Holmgren of OKC. The most strict father of Chet.

He basically saying he's his father, yeah. That's awesome. Number one was Keldon Johnson, KJ, roast chicken, the team soul, our own Charles Barkley. That's amazing. That's awesome. Honestly, these guys are all Wutang affiliates. Well, can I say Kelton Johnson to me looks like Vince Staples?

Yes, he does. Yeah, I agree. He's a six man in the year. He didn't have the best, you know, finals. Big boy. He's a cowboy. Like, big boy. Yeah, he's a cowboy.

He's a farm boy. He's a family man. Before we move along, there are two more things I sent you. Can you pull them up real quick? They literally love him in China. Like, I don't think they think he's ugly. No, this is. You can't do that.

Yeah. Right. You cannot, you can't do this if you think he's ugly. Yeah. This is clearly the gaze of someone who's, it's like a muse. You see this on like a vase or an urn. Exactly. I literally every clip.

I kind of want this on a t-shirt. Every clip I've seen from him has progressively made me root for him more. And I've like barely seen him play up to this point because he wasn't, you know, because I wasn't following the Norwegian team. Team is deeply. And I knew he chose, he could have played for England. but he chose to play for Norway because I think his father was a player for England

and that just happened to be why he was born in England or something like that. So he's on Snapchat and he's so funny on Snapchat. He, no, he really, he's awesome, dude. There's a player for, oh, I see, Many, Many Moons, Wayne Rooney. Oh yeah, Wayne Rooney.

Referred to his entire career as Shrek. That's so funny. Now in his defense or out of events, he did look like. This is my favorite one that he did. Are you a boy or a girl? My dad is a boy and my mom is a girl. So I mix. XXKissie.

Also, he had one where, um, they were talking about how he, why don't you have eyebrows? He said something, he like mistyped something. And then he was like, uh, I forgot everyone is perfect that I'm sorry or something like that.

But it was like the way he worded it was like so good. But yeah, I think he's funny and I think it's really adorable that. Wait, see, they say the complete lack of self-awareness, but I, that's not true. No, I think he has a lot of solace. He has the self-awareness in the palm of his hand and he's playing everyone else like a feel. I mean, the dry humor, the complete lack of self-awareness, those things are at war. Yeah. Yeah.

And then they say delivers it all with total sincerity. I disagree. I think he's, I think he is hyper aware of what people think of him. That's like, really funny. That's kind of the foundation of a joke, right? Yeah. Because it's not dry humor if it's with no self-awareness. That's just a guy.

That's just a guy. But anyways, this, I highly recommend everyone look into Erling Holland and follow his social media. This episode of Sad Boys is sponsored by Zen Market. Have you ever found the perfect collectible, limited fashion drop or tasty sounding snack only to realize that it's a Japanese store that doesn't ship to your country?

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Dot J.P. slash sadboys. Got Japanese goods on your wish list. Visit Zen Market. Thanks to Zen Market for sponsoring this episode. Thank you. The other thing about the World Cup we didn't talk about last week, and we don't have to talk about it much, but it's kind of mentioned there, is these players, because of the popularity of soccer worldwide, these players are like world famous, except for in the U.S.

Yeah. So it's literally like, like, Lemini Mall at Walmart in like middle of nowhere, Georgia, and just like pushing a shopping car and being like, no one knows who I am here. There were people filming him going like, oh my God, I cannot believe he's not being mobbed right now. Yeah, yeah. And that's so, I mean, it's cool that they have access to that, you know, experience. A vacation theme park where they're out of character. Especially somebody like Laminia Mall who like was just a prodigy and has been famous since he was like 1415.

And also how funny that he was in a Walmart. It's like the most American thing you can do is go to a Walmart. And it's the only thing to do in like none to Georgia. Yeah. I don't think I've ever been to a Walmart still. That's crazy. We got to take you a makeup video. I don't even know if Nanta has a Walmart.

Gotta. I know they've got a haunted hotel. I would love someday to do a road trip where we all go to Arizona and I show you guys around the and expose you to Arizona culture. No. And we film it as a little. Pass. You know. Like just.

Wouldn't it be fun if we like all took a road trip to like Dante's eighth infernal hotel? We'll go when it's only like 90 degrees. Oh, brilliant. The dead of winter. Yeah, the dead of winter. You're not wrong, Jacob. We could go shoot machine guns in the desert. Okay, this does sound tight.

Okay, I'm scared. I'm back in. I'm locked. Now you be the target. No. Have we? No, I was going to talk about it now. Yeah.

Maybe. So, uh, we, um, last night I didn't sleep well because we did you were in a show I was in a show I was in drunk Hamilton and there was a surprise a great show it was put on by drunk lady productions

this stream but I watched the yeah the stream might be available but I know that they're going to put it on YouTube at some point like they did for the high school musical thing so but Adelaide edits all that stuff herself so give it time and then there was going to be a surprise for, and I'm going to spoil it here

because it could be interesting to people. So there was going to be a surprise guest and we were like, weird. Why are they? Okay, whatever. And we were like, even like we were signing posters for them to auction off and there was like a post-it over the poster on someone's name or someone's face. And I was like, whatever, whatever.

Was it Thomas Jefferson? It wasn't Thomas Jefferson, but The bones of Thomas Jefferson. George Washington's teeth. They're not his. That wall. He owned them. As much as any of us own our teeth.

As much as any of us, yeah. So we get into Act 2, and for those who know the musical Hamilton, Hamilton is a complex figure. He is, he ends up cheating on he has a mistress essentially and he also uh not only his mistress has a mistress but then when he's blackmailed about having the mistress he then like publishes that he's having an affair and it's like bro we did not need overshare big time this is supposed to be a close friends at most so then so there's a song called say no to this and it's the only time that

maria reynolds has a song in the in the musical i'm trying to remember that one um We're like, oh, who's going to play Maria Reynolds? So then we, the song starts, you know, singing it or I'm rapping it, I guess. And who walks out in a wig and a dress and red lipstick? But fucking Jordan. It was Jordan. Jordan was Maria Reynolds.

And I was completely surprised. I was got by the surprise. Did you die? I'm a professional. You did die at the end of that. Yeah, I died at the end. Don't spoil it. Okay.

I'm just kidding. Could have been from time. Guys old is out. We all die. Yeah, he's 1700s. The guy's old is out. 700. 700?

700? Jordan. I kept the secret. Yeah, you kept the secret. It almost got spoiled a couple times because I got a text earlier that day from Katie because one of our friends needed a comp ticket and one of it was sold out and we were trying to see if we could have, if there were any extras. And so we were able to get one for them.

but Katie didn't know that it was a secret and almost incidentally revealed this information. So bullet dodged there. And then separately, Peep's was also not aware that it was a secret and almost accidentally revealed it to me. But it didn't happen. So I was like a complete surprise. But the thing is, and I tried to tell, I told this to Jordan, but I was telling this to people who were like, oh, were you surprised? I'm like, yes. But there's only so much I can be surprised.

by Jordan because I expect him around every corner. I'm like, there is like a certain, like it's almost like, it's almost like I'm always on guard to like Perry be the, the way, yeah, you're just like showing up somewhere. Me being around. But any, if it was any other person, um, I wouldn't have such a, uh, a gar. I wouldn't be sound such gar. You were just like, yeah, this makes sense.

Yeah. It was kind of, yeah. Super fun. I don't know, like a month ago I got off and I obviously didn't mention it. So I was just floating around. I have, you know, when you have those experiences where it's like you get protagonist syndromeed for a second just because of like absurd like luck and timing any moment? I turned up like super early and then the show said a little late in some like plenty of time, plenty of everything. And for whatever reason, we got a little way laid on our way into the show like trying to sneak in. And we were, I think, including the person that was going to be doing my makeup and stuff, we were starting to walk in.

I had half my dress on. And then I heard the line that comes before mine. That's crazy. We were walking. If I was 10 seconds later, I would have missed the song. We were just walking to the green room. And I just heard, like, someone in the city. I was like, what the fuck?

Wait, what the fuck? And I, yeah, we. It was very, I mean, low stakes. It's like in Camp Rock where Joe Jonas walks out and starts singing with Demi Lovato. That's what it felt like a little bit. That's awesome. Wow, that's actually high praise. You're Jimmy.

You're Joe. This is real. This is me. Jordan's the voice I hear inside my head. You expect me at all times. Yeah. But no, it was a super fun show. And I think the drunk element is a tough.

thing to balance. I being a perfectionist, I took shots before the show, but I needed to hydrate during because I was like sweating and just moving around and all that stuff. But I had all the energy that I needed, which was good.

And then at the end, it helped that I wasn't as drunk as everyone else because it was starting to come apart at the seams. Yeah, I pre-gamed, 20 minutes before getting in the Uber and I think I did it too densely and then I drank that bottle of wine on the stage I'm a little hungover

Can you tell from this phone? I actually Not really actually You're always very laid back I wasn't hungover but I do think I slept weird and so I woke up with a crook in my neck and that's really been the big thing I've been working through

It's like the The like our hangover is so much just bad sleep It's like the dehydration element and like the fatigue and the fact that you just you drank a bunch of poison And then you didn't sleep which is what would normally heal you from poison So you just there was like a young person in the audience and we kind of had a PSA in the middle of the show that was like you don't need to don't let people ever pressure you to drink This is not and then I just held up my liquid death though it's just water and I was like this is my secret. I've been drinking water this whole time This episode of Sad Boys is sponsored by HeroForge. HeroForge offers tabletop minis.

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who haven't said, a wicked game we play. I did get that back in rotation. I did meet someone. I met two people named Levine and Juliet And they were together and they said they came to the Sablois show but weren't able to like get a photo or autograph or anything. And I was like, damn, that's commitment. Respect.

I didn't. I don't think I appreciated how fun like stage stuff is. Yeah. It's been a long time since I did anything that wasn't hours or someone else's like chatting show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was telling Cassius this because he was working the event. And I was like, I am. I only dislike.

before and after because I'm I have the nervous anxiety of like about to go on and then afterward I have the like how was that was that okay like feeling but during I'm like completely locked in and it's one of those things it's like I have so few of those moments in my life I feel where it's just like completely just like on task completely locked in like no like no second guessing. No tinnitus. Like everything is just clear and you you can't you don't have time to second guess anything. I think that's why it gives you a little bit of a high. Yeah. Because you're so in the moment. It's like, oh, I guess I just need to be in the moment. Yeah. Other times in my life. But like easier said than done. Easier said than none. And I do think there is a post show depression where that

you get afterwards where it's like you're coming down from a high. Yeah. adrenaline dump. And you're like, Oh, did I say something stupid? Was this okay? Like you're going over everything. And also it's like, well, now I don't have anything to look forward to. I think it's also relative to like how much you invest in, like how much the thing you're doing you care to be good at or you think reflects on like your ambition.

Yeah. I mean, in my case in particular, it's like, okay, well, I didn't know any of these lyrics. No, no. I ought to be a guy. So if I forget it, it's whatever. But then, like, we do the live stream or we do live show or something like that. Sure. It's like, this is the thing.

I'm supposed to be good at this. I will say for this type of thing, I am not nervous about the performance at all. Not because it's like the confidence comes from the fact that, like, I don't think I'm the best singer or rapper in the world. But I know I can deliver a performance that's like above someone's expectation. Maybe you've just. done it a bunch of times. Yeah, but. And so you have the confidence of knowing that it's.

But I don't have that confidence about like, I'm more nervous doing a comedy show or doing like, I don't know. It's, I think I, I have it from like karaoke. I like, I know that people like, respond well to like my karaoke and that's all this was. Yeah. It's easy to, I think, over deliver when there's not a high. It's not my job. So it's like no, there's no expectations.

Yeah. And there's a thinner spectrum, I feel like of, of like. And you could be good at comedy or you could be a good performer in any respect, but like the alchemy of a comedy show can be wrong in unpredictable ways. Yeah. Oh, these gears just didn't match. And it'll still be fun if you're bad. Like, I think all of the mistakes I made are not things that people like, it stuck with people. You know what I mean?

It was really fun. I wasn't there for the first show because I was sneaking around ready for the second. but the running bit of you jotting down stuff for your... Oh, that was... That was... Yeah, and it's like that was just like in the moment. And it was like... I was happy with how those things turned out

because I could just do meta-commentary about the musical itself. And there's never a place for... I'm never going to make a video about Hamilton. You know what I mean? So it's like there's no place for those thoughts and this is like the perfect outlet for that. Yeah, that's a good point.

Having that like... I feel sometimes... going on like other people's podcasts or shows or something is, uh, it's like, uh, playing, playing pickleball. Yeah.

I'm not doing this and it's not my job and I don't need to be good at it. But it's like, huh, this is fun. Speaking of things that aren't my job and then we'll get to our other topics, but this is an extended catch up. Uh, I've been in the Pokemon Dojo.

You have you been, I've been sharpening the blade. I've been sharpening the blade. I am, I'm, I'm so deep. I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm in too deep by some, 41 is that by something 41 i don't know yeah it's good it's good game Pokemon champions good game deep game very interesting i are our competent we i'm in the wolfie invitational um this weekend it's saturday so it's in l a saturday i think it's probably streaming somewhere does it uh all day it's like a big old uh i do think our call time is toward the beginning of the day and it probably ends around the evening because it's like a tournament so i feel good uh i i i've been playing and or practice

practicing and or coaching every day. I probably have my team down. Teams are due tomorrow, Thursday. I don't want to over promise. But I feel like I'm, it's a, it's a very me type of thing. It's very like adjacent to the all the types of things that I love to like hyper focus on and grind. Like there's a ladder to grind. There's a lot of information to just like sponge. There's a also like an objective of result. There's an objective. and there's an expert. Like, like, so I can, um, literally I'm like reviewing like my coach playing games, uh, for whatever, you know, he, as a pro player, he's like in various like long form tournaments or leagues or things where he's like playing against different matchups and stuff. And on Pokemon Showdown, he'll like send me the replay. And then I'll go through like turn by turn to the replay, like try to predict everybody's moves. And then when something happens, I don't understand.

I can like take a screenshot and be like, okay, was this because of this reason or this reason. And then that there's there's an answer. I get to like have some insight and be wrong and adjust my mental model or like or not. It's kind of like when I was learning to program and I could type something in and I hit run and it like works or it doesn't. Immediate gratification. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I'm kind of hungry for a hobby of like that right now. I'm back into painting minis, but it is it is the reason I could get back into it and music a little bit actually. But in both cases, it's just because it was for a friend, the friend that came to the show the other night, he is DMing a D&D campaign. Yeah. And it's like having a reason to write some background music. Having a reason to paint some minis is a nice like, oh, I'm going to get this. I'm going to cook this meal and serve bit to a group as opposed to like, I guess I'll just eat like a loser. Just eat food. No, no, I know what you mean. You know what's funny. The past few years I've gone to Pokemon World. The last day of Worlds is the is championship Sunday.

It's usually it's the finals of like all of the tournaments. So TCG, Pokemon Unite, Pokemon Go and Pokemon VGC, which is like the competitive battling, the video game championship. So I've watched that years in a row not knowing really what was happening. Oh right. Because I'm like I'm watching it and I can follow it because the casters are saying stuff and because you're seeing Pokemon get knocked out but i mean you have you but i don't know the actual strategy that's going into it i'm like sure that a thing does

i like don't know why you're doing certain things and i'm like so stoked to actually understand what's happening yeah it's interesting that you didn't it well is is the type of thing that i it's always the reason i even what what happened was um it's always something i even um it's always something I've wanted to do, but without an excuse, it's hard to justify because it's not a, because it's a bottomless well of a hobby. You know, it's like, it's, I can go as deep as I want or as shallow as I want. And so I just don't start because it's like if I play Expedition 33, the game at least has an end. Whereas like there is no end to this. It's more of a long-term thing, like magic or something. And something else must be removed. I think the reason I've taken to it is it's a lot

of similar shapes and sounds to magic where you know it's like you're predicting your opponent's moves there's some RNG elements because of you know similarly to cards where you don't draw your thing you need and then there's a ladder and you can just keep playing it against different matchups and stuff um but that's I'm I'm getting a little tempted I mean I will I kind of want to the thing is champions is like the perfect way to get into the game and because it's just like super smooth it's super paired down to start and they there's no microtransactions there's like a battle pass and a membership but there's no like pay to win and and also you can many many people can just start a brand new account and then just like perform really well get the stuff they need

over time and do just fine with it so uh i can show you the i can show you the ropes now but what if i did get it. What if you did get what? What if I did get the game? It's free. It's free and you already have like, for example, Pokemon and Pokemon Go that you can transfer to home and then into the game. And as long as it's not like a shiny or a legendary,

because the annoying thing about transferring to home and go is you have that transporter where it like is essentially a currency, but it like recharges every week. Oh. And so, but if you don't do it. to Legendaries or Shini's, then you could put a ton of... You could probably put every Pokemon you would need

for like multiple weeks. Get the squad through. Get the squad through. My Latin, custom names? Yeah. Yeah, I mean... Any word I want? I mean...

Probably some that are blocked. That might, to be fair, Pokemon Go username is Hunter Biden with a three for the year. I don't know which way to do this. So... Well, you're talking to the mic. Okay, we'll cut this out of the...

I can't say the thing. but I did, you can pretty much do whatever you want, and I did see someone for Riggeraff named. Could be consistent. Yeah, you can do whatever you want. And I do think the only time you would ever get in trouble is if you played in an officially sanctioned event, they might make you rename something.

I've heard of that happening to some people who have unsavory names for things before they show up on street. I never said I was going to be unsavory. Oh, okay. It's just going to be a, couple of words that you can't say anything these days you can't say anything these days can't any slurs these days um you get cancelled about that uh i did there are like in pomeong go i was not allowed to really use any references to coronavirus they didn't want like like covid was was blocked

as the name but hunter biden with numbers for letters yeah i got quite a few of those you just kept going yeah i just kept stacking my my hunter bidens um i've been so in the just in the just in the pocket of just playing and I don't have like a solid of I've been playing so many different teams to try to like round out my knowledge of like because for me I'm very hands-on I need to play in magic I need to play a deck to understand what it wants to do similar to Pokemon like there are different teams different strategies kinesthetic learning yeah yeah it's just like kinetic maybe yeah I've been playing a bunch of different names but I do kind of want to get shinies of everybody

on my team ahead of the tournament when When we lock in the team, I kind of want to get shinies of everybody and nickname everybody. Outfit, what we're thinking? Ooh. Trainor outfit. What's your theme? What's your like, are you a mean, are you like a rival mean? Oh, yeah.

You're like, you know what's funny? My old. So I never played a double battle like in my life, a competitive double battle. When I was in high school, people know that I did talk about competitive singles, Pokemon, battling. Uh, circa Gen 4. So this is, this is 2009. And I have not touched competitive Pokemon since then and never did a double battle even back then. But on forums, my avatar was Stephen Stone, who is like in a suit.

Peep's nose. That doesn't mean anything to you, but that means something to you. And then I also had like a pixel. Basically, I had someone either I did it myself or I paid or paid. I was a child. I asked a pixel artist friend in a forum or something. I begged. I think I did it myself, though.

It was because you had like a partner Pokemon with them. And so I had Stephen Stone. And then I had Wevile. But I had Wevile's like hair furl things, the pink part, blue instead. So it matched Stephen Stone's blue hair. Yeah. So that was sick of off. I probably had that in my,

I probably had that in my photo bucket. somewhere. Oh, fuck yeah. Yeah, see, that's what I'm saying. Happy pride. He's so gay. Dude, he was my... Stephen and Wallace. They're so gay for each other. We don't get to have anyone. They're so gay for you. Look up Wallace.

Show Jordan Wallace. Look of Wallace. Look of Wallace Pokemon. Wallace's green hair, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, you got me on that one. Wallace. You can't.

I can't really... You have to give it to that one. Are you running Star Raptor Wimsocott? Uh, no. That's the only thing I know about the... I've seen... I, I, uh, Aaron Cybertron Zang made a video with that team and then it was like everywhere on ladder for a bit.

I did play around with it. It's cool. It's fun. I asked because that's the only, those are all the memes I've been saying about. The memes are about people who... Star Raptor, uh, so Mega Staraptor just got added to the game. Megastaraptor has this ability called Contrary and Contrary is an ability where any time you would have a negative stat drop, it reverses it and it's actually up. So like a move like close combat, which normally

is a really strong fighting move that lowers your physical and special defense after using it, it actually raises it. And so and so paired with Wimzacott, which can learn moves like tickle or a charm or something like that, which are moves that you're supposed to usually use on opponent Pokemon to lower their attack, speed, whatever. You can use them on Staraptor. And so you kind of create this like Voltron Staraptor where it's just like stacks all of these like abilities

or onto itself and becomes like unkillable. Yeah. Well, I saw a tweet that was someone was sending their shiny Star Raptor from Legends Arceus to the end. they were like saying goodbye to my Star Raptor before I sent it 500 years in the future to fight for me. And then they followed up with that tweet saying my old ass Star Raptor is yelling slurs because of male Wimzicott just trying to use charm on it. But the thing is you and Peeps could both get into champions.

Fucking shit. You don't know anything about Pokemon. I did win one battle the other night out of the two I tried. Let's go. Did you get it on mobile? Yeah. You don't have a switch to yet, do you? No. Okay, cool. That doesn't deserve it.

Welcome back. No, this isn't an ad. It's a message from the top brass here at Sad Boys, Inc. to say that Jordan had a tummy ache and had to go home. And we were mostly done recording the episode, and we just broke for lunch. And that's when it all went down. Jordan is fine. Tommy ache is being nursed as we speak. And we are going to wrap up this show with a topic about celebrity gambling ads and prediction markets and some of the new.

coffee zilla deets about polymarket and will be joined by someone who is normally not on camera so consider yourself blessed by peeps. Hello. Not peeps is not British. Hello, it's Jordan. Yeah, you know what's, it's so hard. It's so hard to do Jordan's accent specifically. You know what's funny.

Because it's like a mixed accent. What's funny to me about Jordan's accent is that I don't, he doesn't have a British accent to me. You just, it's, that's Jordan. Yeah. So like if I, when we were all in, in Britain together, I wasn't hearing a British accent from him, but everyone else. I was like, oh, British people. Yeah, 100%. Because he has, because he has like an acclimated, like kind of mixed accent.

And it's, it's hard to impersonate. Um, but we, but the show must go on, of course. Uh, we run a tight ship here and we, no tummy aches allowed. So, um, so, uh, what is. Okay, so this is, we've got some old news and we've got some new news. So the old news is Timothy Shalmay, what are you doing? Yeah. Why'd you do that, brother?

I know. And honestly, disappointment in a lot of people. Yeah, there's a lot of celebrity prediction market ads, Janus, I think. Yeah. Because he's like a part owner in Kalshi. So we have his ad. We have Timmy's ad. Yeah.

Do we have any other celeb ads? Well, the other one's not prediction market related. Is he gambling? No, it's Israel. apartment. Oh, it's the Gwyneth. That's, I think the only one. I almost said, I almost said Gwynn Stefani, and I'm, and that's not Gwyneth Fautro. And I'm sorry to Gwen Stefani.

I don't know. I think she's been weird recently. Yeah, she became super duper Christian. Is it Blake Shelton's fault? Probably. Blake. You kind of sound like Jennifer Coolidge. Blake. Blake, I rooted for you.

I was Team Blake on the voice for at least one season. I think the Gwyneth Paltrow is the only one I've seen out of these. Let's watch the Timmy Ed. Let's start strong with T-shell. Guy who you would think couldn't really take any L's. He lost, you know, the Oscar, Marty Supreme, still had a fun, like, marketing thing. And then his Knicks won the championship. He was like, I would sacrifice an Oscar.

for the next to win a championship and that we're like oh that's great but then for no for they must have paid him so much money but timi you didn't need to do this so I have a theory about this a timothy shalem a yeah a timothy um I think so first of all it feels like his star is on the decline I think but look this is something I've said before I do think people are getting a little sick of seeing his face around. Sure, sure, sure. And I think part of the problem is that he's doing more stuff like this. Also, he's in an Adidas commercial that's running during the World Cup and it's running too

much. I saw you. I've been seeing that one. Yeah, messy, bad bunny, laminia mall. Dude. And I think Zanadine Zadane and Beckham show up. Oh, my gosh. as like a flashback

I really love that Messi doesn't speak English I know it's like so awesome because he's just such a big celebrity and people speak English to him all the time and he seemed to understand it more or less yeah he just speaks back in Spanish

my team right there yeah here we go there's one where he's driving a car and he's talking about he's like this team is like this is like the final installment The driving in the car one, and there's another one where he's in an apartment. But I just, to continue my thought, he is in a lot of commercials right now.

And there is a online theory that it's the influence of his billionaire girlfriend, Kylie, Jenner, being like, you got to make more money. Got to make more money. And the truth of the matter is, I think he actually needs to stop making money to some extent because he's kind of overset. saturating the market and he doesn't he used to feel like this artsy kind of elite actor like where he's he's choosing only the best projects to work on and he doesn't feel like that anymore uh yeah but you are also uh hyper shallomade well i was going to say you are the type of person to be like there's too much of this person but i think you've called for the over saturation I believe, I believe you.

I don't think there's a thing about saturating the market with your, like, I, I, Glenn Powell. Yeah, yeah. I'm not, I'm not. Well, that's the thing. I've, like, you've had, you've held your line about Emma Stone and Timmy. And I just didn't experience the Emma Stone thing the same way, but it's probably because of like where I was looking.

But the Timmy thing, I'm definitely feeling. I think some people disagree with me about the Emma Stone thing, but I think it will happen soon. I kind of felt the same for a bit about. Tom Holland. Interesting. But I really like Tom Holland, but I think it didn't happen to this extent because he didn't really do any commercials.

Yeah. See, that's what I'm saying is like. But I think Tom Holland's problem is that no matter what he's in, he's playing the same character kind of. Well, and I think for a time it was actually the internet doing it to him because you could not open social media without seeing a clip of him doing something. Right. Well, and it's like with, I've been seeing the trailers for The Odyssey coming out, and I'm very excited for that movie.

I love the story of The Odyssey, but every time Tom Holland pops up in that trailer, I kind of go like, it's taken me out of it. Well, I actually, so I don't have this for Tom Holland, but what I will say about the Odyssey is it's got too many stars. Too many stars. And so like, it's not even, it's like, for me, it's the combination of so many famous people. To me, it's like looking at the cast of the Into the Woods movie. Yeah. I'm like it's a star-studded musical. It's a star-studded affair.

Yeah, I don't. Let's watch this CalCi commercial and see if it's worth anything. And prediction markets were big on them because of all the insider trading, because of all of the potential government connections. And just addictive. And gambling. Yeah, exactly. And I wasn't going to forget that. don't like for anybody watching i wasn't leaving out the gambling you guys don't want to gamble on

whether or not it's going to rain today well that's the thing it's not even insider trading it's not even gambling it's not even the trump connections uh there's also just fraud yeah like it's just it's like the the deck is stacked against you yes in so many different ways like if you think prediction markets are an easy way to make money, they're fooling you because they are going to win the money. You are going to lose money over time. Over time, yeah, absolutely. Wow, there's a lot of infection in there to me.

We're doing really well. Are you feeling anything? I don't understand, but this is going very well. He said Kashi? Kashi-Golene, crunch. Calci. I've never had a little thing on my mouth like that at the dentist. I've had that.

When they're just focusing on one area. Yeah, I think maybe for like a root canal or something. But, um. A horrible way to open up an ad also. It is a dental dam. Um, but why, what, what, what was that? I don't know. I think it's just trying to be cute.

Yeah, but. It's like you can't really say something when the dentist talks to you. You know, you can't talk when the dentist, you got your mouth open. No, I get that part. You know, when your dentist is working on your infected teeth and you want to talk about your gambling app? That's the thing I don't get is the connection to the prediction market thing. That's what I, what are you trying to say? Are you in pain?

He's predicting if his, is, anesthesia is going to work or not. It's like, and I, and I also understand, like, non-sequitre ads and stuff, but this just doesn't do it for me. It doesn't do it for me either. It's very funny how, like, I feel like it worked. Jacob just lowered the camera and it feels like an insult. I was going to ignore it. Yeah.

It was like lowered by like an aggressive amount. So sorry to point it out, but it just is so funny. I just saw it go down and I was like, it's anyway, laser fucking. Just like he puts it on the floor. This will find. This will capture you. I was going to say like the dentist never even like, am I wrong? He never was like, oh, Kalshi.

No, he doesn't understand. So he's just, it's an. where he's trying for no reason to say the app's name. And then the dentist doesn't get it. Can I posit that it appears that Timothy Shalmay is in some sort of gambling-based psychosis where he is just saying the name of the gambling app over and over. So like that's also not something that you want. Yeah.

But maybe it's like an anti-ad. It's like the smoking ads that are like smoking's bad for you, but I love being bad. It is one of those things where it's like, we're not even going to tell you what we do. And then they think that makes me go Google it and place a bet. Maybe that works, but I don't feel like it does for me. It's always a coin flip. You know, the big one was the Coinbase Super Bowl ad where they just put the QR code on the screen. That had tons of people like go to their thing.

But I don't feel like this is going to be as effective. I think it will, okay. their goal is obviously name ID it's just to say cali what is cali oh i've heard about cali oh i'm going to see it in a bunch of different places because now they've partnered with so many you know it's like cnn has a data deal this break they're they're doing it now in uh NBA games it's like there's a there's like a ticker on ESPN and all these things it's like you just can't get around it because they have so much money it's like why does the casino have so much money well it it appears that it's draining these people for everything they have yeah there's a reason and it's also

why you have those polymarket Twitter accounts that just post regular news. Yeah. It's all for name ID. Like, it's just so that you're aware of their brand to get the name out there. Which is, like, in a way, we are doing, but obviously it's ideally not in a positive light.

Yeah. I get, like, why aren't you just ignoring it? And it's like, that is impossible. That is, they are, now. They're spending millions of dollars. They're spending tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars on marketing and are embedding themselves into institutions, into long, like, into historic institutions to legitimize themselves. And so like that's going to happen. That's kind of what happens when you say nothing. So it's like, at the very least, we can be like, hey, this is a little weird.

Soccer is the sport with the least amount of commercial breaks. And I have seen this dentist ad hundreds of times at this point. Yeah, I've been seeing that a D. there's one a lot. It's also just a commercial where, and I know the point is to grab your attention so you pay attention to the commercial, but starting the commercial close up of someone's open mouth while a dentist is working on it, gross. Right.

It's supposed to evoke an uncomfortable feeling because people don't like going to the dentist. It's like, I feel like what they're trying to do is like fairly transparent, but it's like, is it effective at doing what it's trying to do? Maybe. Who knows? But the thing is, they are in a position where they can throw a bunch of stuff at the wall because they just have the fuck you money. And they have insulation from regulation due to their connections to government officials, which is, you know, should be a violation of all kinds of things. They're just non-sequitre ads. Yeah, it's just non-secreted or ads. And it's like, hey, that's relatable, I guess. And then I was like, is he, what exercises this?

And then he was just trying to jump. Instead of just hitting it with the broom. Sure. And I also don't think he can jump that high, but movie magic, baby. Movie magic assisted jump. Movie magic assisted jump. All right. Now he's playing piano.

Now he's playing the music. He does actually play piano. And I know that because he learned it for Call Me By Your Name. Okay, this is pissing me off. This is like that Riza ad ad, uh, uh, B, video from Guitar Center. These are just bad though. So like it's so funny

because I think that this like occupies a space where it shouldn't really be legal but it's just like not in for like whatever they're doing is not enforced by the SEC but the event contract trading involves significant risk it may not be suitable for all investors it's like people don't know what that means

and that's frustrating because it's gambling and there's like not a And for example, like there's gambling regulations where you have to put like the gambling hotline and stuff and the ads. We don't have that here because it's not technically gambling. It's technically investing. And it's like, okay. It's such a transparent side step of like gambling.

Of any regulation. Like regulations. And it's frustrating because they're just being like allowed to continue operating. And also I this isn't a new thing. Like prediction markets have been a. possible thing in our economy for a very, very long time. And they've always been stopped

for a reason. Yeah. There's like a book called The Wisdom of Crowds from like 20 years ago that like talks about these in the hypothetical. Well, because legally, what's the difference between a prediction market like this where you're betting

on whether or not it's going to rain today versus betting on which horse is going to win in a horse race? Yeah. So I would also say like what's the difference between betting if Google is going to go up or down? Because it's like, it's very similar to how like single stock trading can be close to gambling. And it really is just investing is regulated differently. So it's futures contracts. It's futures contracts trading. So you're basically buying a futures contract on the one side of the event. And then there's

of the event that can have like two different bullying states or I guess three is like undecided it happened or it didn't happen and and that's also like a tricky thing because like when the ayatola was killed there was a event contract for whether or not he would leave office and people are like he's dead he left office and they're like nope exactly but yeah it just essentially counts as investing is the reason that it's not gambling but the reason that it counts as investing is because of some legal wizardry that is really just it's just semantics right with semantics and it's just like the government choosing not to do anything about it because they have a because truth social wants to get into predictions

Facebook just announced that they are going to look into getting into prediction markets and then um and then Trump Jr. is on the board of polymarket and he might be on the board of Cali but anyway there's like government officials on the boards of these companies so it seems really weird to me that Janus owns a portion of Calci because he's a athlete that seems like a conflict of interest to me and it seems like something that NBA shouldn't allow but they are yeah I also agree with that obviously like there's distance between like him directly betting on himself versus like owning part in this company, but it's like when you just look at it for what it is. It's one of those things that where it's like, yeah, technically this isn't a thing that's

against the rules, but like if you just look at it, you're like, okay, this is a problem. Donald Trump Jr. is a strategic advisor to Kalshi. Which is essentially them paying off the Trump family to allow them to exist. I mean, you can't say that. Allegedly. Allegedly parody. I'm writing a play. And he's a major investor of polymarket.

So those are the connections. And then obviously like, but you can, there's lots of things like this where it's like, oh, there's some transparent financial dubious actions happening. But if the government. All right. It chooses not to pursue it. Then our hands are tied. Yeah.

All right, Janus. With Kalshi, you can control. on anything. Man, tell them something that don't know. Like, I'm from Greece. I love Janus's voice because they really give him these speaking parts that are, like,

kind of hard to grasp for someone who's never, who's, like, not super familiar with him. Like, this is funny. If my traffic cop were doing that, when the fuck do I go? It's funny. isn't has that have anything to do with anything like that's the that's the beauty of um this is starting

to remind me of FTX like if you remember uh FTX was like a crypto exchange and it went belly up sand bankran freed uh went to jail he has now he's now doing the thing that all of the financial criminals in jail do where they pivot to repal he was like a significant like democratic owner and very clearly has politics that are not Republican politics, but he's now trying to get that Trump pardon because a lot of people are getting it. Oh, yeah. The guy who did Nicola Motors, who they famously rolled a truck down a hill and said it used, it didn't use any power or whatever to do that, didn't use any gas.

It was supposed to be for like electric car freighting type stuff. that guy went to jail for fraud and then donated like a million dollars or something to Trump's some Trump fund and then he ended up getting a complete pardon which is crazy and and he was he was out for like the restitution that he had to pay was like hundreds of millions of dollars and normally that isn't wiped away but in the specific case with how the pardon was granted, that's wiped away, and then none of the people who were defrauded are entitled to getting paid back any amount of money. There's a polymarket ad with like a yogi.

Yes, the one with Rick Rubin? Yes. Oh, so it does have a celebrity. It does have a celebrity. It's very disappointed to see. It has three celebrities in it. Oh, it does? I've only seen the one with him.

Oh, yeah. Okay. What would you ask? That's where I've been seeing it is during the World Cup, where, It's just this. Will AI make us better? So definitely putting a lot of money into these commercials and making them kind of vague.

Questions or everything. Yeah, because it's like, because that's the thing. Their marketing strategy is widely on TV, above board celebrities, like, you know, imbue your brand, with the goodwill that these celebrities have. And then on your private feeds,

we're going to get you with like more personalized things that connect it to gambling. So that way we're not like doing it. It's like we're doing it in private instead of in public is almost how it seems. Because we, I think we have the, some of the influencer ads now, right? Like this is a college student.

They're advertising it to college age people to try to get them to essentially gamble. and then the ad itself is pretending to be a real-life thing when it's actually falsified. Like the clip is not from the time of the bet. Bro, what? Will Trump say April 4th? So this is from the copy cello video. We were trying to pull them from the articles.

But yeah, so essentially what they're doing is they're targeting, and I have to imagine promoting on TikTok two specific audiences, which is something that brands will do for sponsored content. These videos of like college-age people winning a bunch of money on polymarket. And just by its own, it's essentially a gambling ad. Because if I show you the one time somebody puts it all on black and wins, that's a selection bias, right? But this is not even just selection bias. This is a complete fabrication because the wet, so $200 are not.

Trump to say April fools. Then they play a clip of him saying April fools. The clip is not maybe from that year or that time or whatever. And then they seemingly show a realistic looking polymarket website so that they can film it like hastily handicam like raw TikTok style. But the website, these reports are alleging, is that it's actually a polymarket where the L is an uppercase i in the URL so that it just appears very similar to polymarket and it's like a mirror website where they're able to just like fudge whatever stuff that they want this could also be accomplished all kinds of other ways but they've made it really easy for these influencers to do this um they probably in their like brand deal briefs or something or like giving them hey go to this website

film a you know sloppy looking like video like you like you it wasn't wasn't paid, you know, because I don't know if these are disclosed as ads. That's what I was going to say. If it's undisclosed, that's even more shady. Especially if it's being advertised on TikTok, because I have seen an uptick in the amount of ads that are not being disclosed as ads. You know what's crazy is I posted an ad on TikTok, a sponsor content with Magic the Gathering, which is literally just like some clips of me going to an event that was celebrating one of

their new sets. And I hashtaged it, like hashtag ad, uh, you know, like paid partnership or whatever. And the video actually got flagged by TikTok's internal system that it was like branded content that wasn't disclosed as branded content. And because I didn't, I hadn't posted on, I had never posted, uh, sponsored content on TikTok. And there's like a special thing that you have to check inside, like on YouTube, a special thing that you have to check inside of it. Um, So even though I hashtag to ad, which classically is like a thing you expect from ad content, it wasn't enough. So the fact that when people, but theoretically, someone who's hashtagging ad is attempting to be forthcoming. Yeah.

Whereas like a video like this where maybe that's not happening is just flying under the radar and the system is working as intended. The people that play by the rules are punished and the people who just avoid the rules are. you know, get the benefit. It is, it is every time I go on TikTok, there's undisclosed ads. It's like rampant there right now. Will Trump say April 4th this week? 4%? Bro, what the?

Yes. Trump say McDonald's in January? Good deal as usual. But you know, in the old days, McDonald's. No! Now there's a lot. more videos just like those the general format is they make a long shot bet get paid out a ton of money isn't that so wonderful and if you look at the URL it very clearly says polymarket or at least it looks like that says yeah look at this this so this is actually a giveaway so this what we see here like a development link um like essentially an internal link that you would like post on like a staging version of the website before you launch it or something like that.

And this is really what Poi Market is pointing to. And it's almost like a reveal of kind of what they're doing. And I didn't see him talk about this, but can you possibly zoom into that? Fake UI TestNet get Mustafa probably like a developer or a PM or something

and then preview and then Polyu. and then polymarket.dev, which is like their development set. That's fucking crazy. It's like, it's really funny because this is probably the, um, fake UI test net is probably like the branch name for an in Git, which is just like when you're building a new feature. Her tabs, Polymarket, the Rice Purity Test and how to something. I was going to see if we could see that third one.

Yeah. But like classic, if she shows it later, I'm sure it's like classic things that people would pause and then comment about. So they're trying to try to get engagement with the other stuff. Interesting thing to me is like normally these types of URLs are not viewable on the public internet. And so what I'm wondering is, is the call coming from inside the house and this is like they recorded this in-house?

Is it, which would be crazy? Like that feels like it would be like crazy fraud. Or are they like putting someone. like getting them on the the polymarket network in order to view this like get on our VPN like yeah it's password projected oh okay so it is it is available on the public internet which is really funny um what just type in TikTok all overcase that would be so funny and then password try password and then try admin and then uh maybe try Mustafa all right give it a go give it a go you got try you got to try that's funny um well but yeah i mean that okay so the fact that it's on the public

internet is just literally like what we said earlier which is like you get a brief from a brand yeah here's the stuff you need to do here's the stuff you need to say here's the link you need to go to and they may not even know like the actual people on ticot making these videos it's funny because that doesn't even look like tic-tok that looks like snapshot you know what i mean one of those was a hundred thousand dollars i think they are they know they're not placing real bets they know they're not placing real bets i just feel like maybe they don't know what i mean i you know whatever i think um they're certainly not they don't realize it's fraud yeah exactly because like i doubt polymark it's like the mark the going price for an influencer paid ticot from like

a small creator is not $100,000. So Occam's razor suggests that they would just pay somebody whatever the market rate is to click some stuff and film some stuff. And then people will do that just fine. Exactly. And the, um, Jacob, can you try to go to a Poi market essentially? Yeah, it like wasn't working. So it's P-O capital I.

Yeah, that should be what it is. And the capital shouldn't even matter, to be honest. But yeah, yeah, go ahead. and then that Well maybe they took it down because of this Oh well So like do you need a specific No no no no no no okay so a 404

Is this is actually working We're on this site but there's not a specific thing to see here Right so we're on the site so this is like a real site But that's essentially what's happening and like dishonest sucks Also just like this type of market taking advantage of any sort of person's faith in this way is just so I mean and that's like it's like and that's like the third thing I even think about with Lucia it's so like on one hand it's so funny to see like a site definitively say there's a 2% chance based on data that Jesus will return

before 2027 and all this is based on is who's willing to buy right who's willing to buy one side versus the other side and that also allows because there's other markets at or whether or not this specific bet will go up or down in its percentage. And so now you can bet on that, which means you can tilt the scales by betting on this one way or the other. So it's like none of it, every, it's a, it's like a series of, it's like an onion of fraud. Like there's just like fraud at a bunch of different layers allegedly.

And there's nothing in the core. And there's nothing in the core. Like nothing is holding this up. Like at any point. It's like, it's very much like crypto in that regard. Yeah. It is. So technically,

Polymarket has been banned in the US since 2022. Right. But obviously it's so easy to just use a VPN. Yeah. Like by design on their part, easy to use a VPN and just get around that. Yeah. Also, I want to say that it's like, it's like a wink where it's like, yeah, it's,

oh wait. You have to download the app to trade. That's what I was going to say. I'm pretty sure that ban was only for what like a website. And that's where our laws fail. Yeah. Like the fact that I were banning something for the website, but not a app that is essentially a skin of the website.

Yeah. Like it just makes it's nonsensical. We did a gold video on these prediction markets a while back. and when I was doing research for that, I was trying to figure out what the legality of it is and there's actually no, like essentially since the current administration took office, it's very foggy what the legality is.

And it's very easy to do. So it makes me think that there's absolutely zero regulation on it. I feel like a broken record at this point, But this stuff is just like, don't touch it with a 10 foot pole. Like, just don't risk your money like that. Yeah. And also try not to let like because like with those types of ads like the Kalshi ones where it's just nonsensical. Part of the point is to get you talking about it.

Like what do that even mean? Whether you liked it or not, you thought it was funny or stupid. You're talking about it. And that's what they want. We're talking about it. skip it, do whatever. I mean, to be honest, I don't even, I thought the, I think the reason I thought that Timothy Shalameh Adidas ad, had a basketball version was because I was tuning it out while

watching the NBA. And I didn't even know what the ad was for. I know. I tend to mute it during ads. And I only see ads during sports. Like, is earth flat 2%? Like, what are we doing here? How are they going to prove that?

Yeah. We find out Anastasia's a flat earth truther. Hey, I've been trying to prove it for years. Yeah. The other thing is, like, if you're a celebrity and you're a fan of this show, chill on this shit. So, Tim, if you're listening. I have some great career advice for you. And I have a really comfortable couch if you want to come sit on it sometime.

We can talk it out, okay? We can talk through this. But yeah, it's just like the, I get it. the money that gambling companies offer is like more than any other company for any other type of type of business and the reason is because they stand to gain so much more for advertising themselves yeah if people want more sad boys we're over on patreon.com slash sadboys where you can listen to sad boys nights our patreon exclusive podcast which is going on what was it 170 episodes yep wow it's a lot of episodes a lot of episodes and you can get them all for the low low price

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