Sad Boyz - The Princess Treatment Formula

Starting point is 00:00:00 Adventure which is adventure so I know that part Welcome to sad boys a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis Tashiwa Jarvis it is we're both that then Jarvis is Japanese We've been going yeah, we've been We've been Google translating him. We can't. How's the vibe of the Stanley knife being visible on the coffee table?

Starting point is 00:00:30 Whoa! Does it feel cool? Oh. Ah! This guy? Can you see it? No, that's a different Stanley. And it's not the same Stanley as from the cups, or is it?

Starting point is 00:00:41 No. I think it is. Oh wait, it is? I think it's the same company I've been I've been opening my boxes with the Stanley cup of blades What's the resale value on this fucker is this like a company that makes like razors and pencil and camping gear yeah, right um and then It's dangerous don't hurt yourself yourself. Oh, you're loud. You're making it hard for Jacob.

Starting point is 00:01:08 Sorry. Jacob has never been more focused in his life, I think. Before we brief aside, as we often do on this podcast, I have to say that I went to the doctor this morning because we were talking about health, inner ear stuff. Uh, a couple of notes. One, new official height. Six foot one and a half inches. Hey. New height just dropped. Wake up. New height just dropped.

Starting point is 00:01:35 You did text us this immediately. I did. I was excited. Oh, I'm sorry. You don't care about my friend's medical status. I undersold it too. I was like, yeah, like, you know, six one, maybe a little bit below. And he's like six one and a it too. I was like yeah like you know one maybe a little bit below and he's like six one and a half And I was like yeah, I like outside they people are coming in everything okay in here. I Just received the best dude. He takes the five dollars right again. Yeah, you're gonna be one of those and a half guys Yeah, I

Starting point is 00:02:01 Know I needed it, but that was the little boost I needed. Sometimes it matters a lot. Because last time I went to the doctor, they said I was five foot and three quarters. I saw you wearing some sketches the other day. You were pretty psyched up. And I was like, when you're as little as I am, you got it. Every millimeter counts. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:02:20 Well, it is more of a percentage of your height. Yeah. Which is that you hold a lav mic and it's to scale. Yeah, well it's like how when you're seven years old and every year is really really long because you've only lived that many. Right. Only lived seven. But when-

Starting point is 00:02:34 That many. That many. You just became a seven year old for a second. This many. Jordan has a little mark on the wall for a peep's height changes. I'm getting to it. It's going down. Yeah. Every month. Oh, how's it getting smaller? Okay, shall we- little Well, no I have more things to report on They also told me And this is I want more doctors to do this took my heart rate. He goes that looks great. I was like yes

Starting point is 00:03:06 Positive feedback yeah, and then they were like they were like take a deep breath. He was like ooh nice and clear and I was like, yes I was like, I did it! Positive feedback Yeah, and then they were like, they were like, take a deep breath You're just like, ooh, nice and clear And I was like, YES! I think you might have been floating with it Wow, incredible He was like, what are you doing later? You nailed this appointment And what else did I get complimented on at the doctor? This is like so opposite of every visit to the doctor I've ever had in my life

Starting point is 00:03:24 Like, I was gonna say I could getting nagged What's crazy is They nag me all the time to the doctor I've ever had in my life like I was gonna say getting neck what's crazy all the time that's true thank you going back well I have such a long cuz this morning I went in for like a yearly I'm like trying to get on some treatment and before insurance can cover it, we wanted to get up to date. Hite. Hite. Hite's a picture of your eyes, right? Take one by the way.

Starting point is 00:03:48 What thoughts? Take one and a half. Take one and a half, do you want? Hey. But we were going through my like long end story of medical history of which there's a lot of like stuff that's happened and so it was nice to then hear that like my body wasn't falling apart. Yeah. And I was like, to then hear that like my body

Starting point is 00:04:05 wasn't falling apart. Yeah. And I was like, Hey, wow, stuff is really working. I like don't always feel the best. But my heart rate is pretty good. My lungs work. That's how I got a general checkup. I like I was coping with the bad stuff. They were saying by getting smug about one good thing they said, yes, we like EDS, you're supposed to get like regular heart checks. I got got a good feedback on my heart health and he was like, but heart rate's still ridiculously high

Starting point is 00:04:30 and the cholesterol could really use some work. And I am not hearing a word. Folding my arms. I guess I am good at having a heart. I'm appreciating this moment because I'm worried when I get the results of all my labs on Friday Like there might be something rough in there So I gotta hang on to this some fingers crossed though the results come back your six foot

Starting point is 00:04:54 How'd you find that out for my blood? Short King they took the blood at your foot so it went down short king blood. They took the blood out your foot so it went down. No! Anyway I feel like I've been talking about doctor stuff a lot or maybe that's just in my own life. Times are crazy man I hate how much I've been going to the doctor but I'm trying to get I'm trying to get well. That's the good that's the good thing. I'm trying to get well. Hurts to stretch feels good to be limber or whatever. Yeah. What's this face you're doing? Yeah I've also been going to PT just trying to get my cardio back in a way that doesn't like make my back, my

Starting point is 00:05:31 actual back really sore. Imagine how impressed your doctor will be. I know. Like this one's free. Dude, I hate everything about the healthcare industry, though. It's like, so much of it's like complete. like we were just discussing How to make a compelling case to the insurance company? Yeah. It's like oh well It was almost like not hoping but like it's like ah well We if we saw worse results, then it would be easier to make the case One we could have right if you were if you were yeah exactly You could have been considered pathetic

Starting point is 00:06:05 if you were under 6'1". I was afraid to ask, could we also check for my blood type? Because it's not really a thing that comes up unless you're giving blood, and so I just need to give some blood. But the other thing is, I, for various reasons in my life, have been doing a lot of blood draws, and so I'm afraid to give blood

Starting point is 00:06:23 because I'm already doing so many frequent things where doctors Blood boy for fucking Sam all Bright was it Brian Johnson GPT is actually runs on my shortcake blood cells Yeah, the unethical that's a pretty pretty unethical part we should be talking about. Oh yeah, we don't talk about that enough. Mostly made out of your plasma.

Starting point is 00:06:49 Yeah. Potential gold video coming out related to that? Hey, I don't know, we'll see. But, uh... About the plasma. About the plasma, dude. This commentary video is about my plasma. I once did a commentary video on my college transcript

Starting point is 00:07:07 and that is still very on brand for me, I think. It was mostly about me talking about my classes. This is gonna sound insane. What's the transcript? Oh, just like the list of all the classes I took and like the grades I got. Okay. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:23 For a second, I, cause I'm like, I definitely, I definitely have provided one to visa lawyers. And for a second I'm like, should I have sent them like the subtitles for an episode of Saboos or something like that? Transcript, wait a minute, I'm insane. No, it's like, I think I was like doing like word association where I'd go to a class

Starting point is 00:07:42 and I'd be like, all right, what, my English class. Anyway, the teacher was like Yes crazy my teacher it wasn't English was it with it anyway what I wish I'd taken was an alpha Class from a 21 year old with 300,000 subscribers on tick-tock who's you know what? Honestly girl bossing her way to the top getting swagged out Like a goddess can we can we teach me some can we teach me can we teach me some Tips and tricks on how to you know we we found out Anastasia That you need to get out there and be an alpha

Starting point is 00:08:24 Yeah, you can't just wait for an alpha man to come sweep you up off your feet. You have to do the sweeping We're busy Okay, you need to take these guys out to the cleaners if you know But not you kill them shit. I'm just cleaning cleaning you gotta know you cook you don't have no Like not that way. Oh fuck You need to be subjugated by men So close to saying what you man, I was just gonna say it's no surprise that I'm having problems with men But why would that be why would anyone know that?

Starting point is 00:09:08 It's and so I just I really know we know. We just nod, you say that, and we're just like, yep. Yeah, I mean we're just before we started we were just like it's no surprise that Anastasia is having trouble with men. That's a little gossip. That's why we found for you someone who can teach you to be better. You're not even a beta male, you're more of a charlie male. Female. Female. You're a female. Female.

Starting point is 00:09:30 An owl female. Oh, wait, missed opportunity. This woman should have named it. Yeah, more like miss opportunity. Wait, why? We should say, so there is, we found a, what, should we say a sensei, a guru, a guide to white women?

Starting point is 00:09:50 She's a guru for all straight white women everywhere. Can we, do we have a video that sort of gives us a taste? Relax. If no one ever taught you how to make men and people worship you like you are a literal goddess, and I say this literally works, this girl texted me saying that a man handed her a hundred dollar bill Simply just for existing this girl texted me. It's a comment on her public tiktok, which is her chin in it Tell me how I'm using princess treatment and a man walked up to me and handed me $100 just because now I was wearing a sign that says hand me a

Starting point is 00:10:28 Context tell me well, I guess we could go find that tick tock I do love that. I'm gonna start referring to people who leave negative comments on my videos as sending me a text I got a message. I said damn, bro. You got fat I'm like you got to stop texting me man Who gave you my number? But I appreciate the feedback. I guess yes. Yeah, I need to find out how Get to the point where a random dudes hand me $100 for new. Yeah, we got to work on that I give you a drugs either to return to the point where a random dudes hand me a hundred dollars for new yeah we got to work on that I give you a hundred dollars either to

Starting point is 00:11:08 return to me with interest you loaned me a hundred dollars yeah for a day and when I did this I saw results instantly soon as I walked into Starbucks everyone looked at me and he ended up giving me my order for free and then when I was basically just doing my work a guy came over and was like sorry I'm not trying to hit on you I just want to make friends and your energy is so good and bought me a Starbucks drink too much caffeine Like the charge lemonade Why would you want this I don't I get okay when I was younger especially

Starting point is 00:11:44 Random dudes coming up to you like it sucks I did not want that I think that's a- No, they just wanted to buy me Starbucks drinks and- Wait, so you had the power and then you just let it go away I think it's just being a young woman

Starting point is 00:12:00 maybe Well I know, but now that's kind of part of the- I feel like the missing piece here is being an attractive young woman maybe. Well I know, but now that's kind of part of the, I feel like the missing piece here is being an attractive young woman. That is a contributor to be sure. I mean in general life is, pretty privilege is a real thing and I don't, I've never liked the term pretty privilege because it feels gendered, but like height, style,

Starting point is 00:12:20 lifestyle, well anything that engenders people do you naturally. No I have pretty privilege not to flex but I just think like It's like if my my face in thumbnails Like has to look good, it's not off put you know it has to be inviting you both are very pretty men Like it's like it's like a thing that's not lost on me that if I presented differently to the world I would provide a less

Starting point is 00:12:51 Off like a less inviting Face or whatever I can woge I can I couldn't woe jack myself But I do think there's something to like, I feel like privilege is such an essential part of that phrase because people that would otherwise be aware of the fact that like, hey, like white privilege, for example, is the absence of problems. It's not that you get to do something special

Starting point is 00:13:17 or you get access to special kinds of like roller skates. You just don't deal with some other issues. I have male privilege There are things I don't you're going to go to your mailbox before anyone I get to look at everything This white But I you know, it's I could walk alone at night and I just don't feel inherent Absolutely, but the the pretty privilege element or like if you're like six one and a half or above like well so I'm just okay I'm wearing this gigantic like platform I don't know if you ever saw our kids try to do that. Life sure is hard for us tall fellas. All right boys, step ladder.

Starting point is 00:14:07 Have weights on your feet. But, I just don't want to say, obviously I'm not saying, it's, these damn women get everything. No, no. But it's nice, it sometimes is like causation and correlation, like, damn, when I, I have got, I only ever got a job, my initial job at Patreon, because the company was very small

Starting point is 00:14:27 and I sounded smart because I'm British. That absolutely helped by like a huge margin, not something I worked on. Right, like that's a funny privilege in America is that Americans think British people sound smart and it's a debuff outside of America because people think Americans sound dumb. But I was like severely under-qualified at the job. I was like, yeah, that actually, it's interesting because academia to me is sort of arbitrary.

Starting point is 00:14:58 Then I move here, I'm like, right fellas, what are we doing there? You're really having a mental night out Absolutely mental night in Sheffield. Out in the Silicon Valley. We're going to a tech company. So this woman is presupposing that Rando's coming up to you giving you Starbucks drinks is a positive. It's aura. And the thing is, but she wants that. And she is attracting an audience who wants that as well. Yes. And if that's something that you want, then that's your prerogative. Thumbs up. But like any kind of alpha course or stuff like this, it always makes every all grinds that stuff.

Starting point is 00:15:41 Everything's merit. Everything is you must generate the aura. It's like, I am aware of the optics of like, two 30 year old men talking about some 21 year old girl on TikTok, but. Takes one to half a mole. One, we're not trying to like dunk on her or anything like that. Two, she does have a large audience and has influence.

Starting point is 00:16:02 And three, we have an audience of people who are in her same influenceable age sphere, where we could have overlapping kind of audiences. So I don't, I think I don't want to invalidate any perspectives that we may have simply like I want to make it seem like I'm yucking a woman's young yeah or women's young it's much closer to just like this the culture that we've talked about in a lot of circumstances of rise and grind alpha mindset stuff that takes like yeah you know it's the issue is that more people just need to make podcasts harder our podcast does decently because we did it so hard it's other people didn't do it as hard.

Starting point is 00:16:45 I think the way, yeah, that's fair. It's definitely survivorship bias and there's so many other factors that could be leading to your success that you're not gonna internalize and then use as a teaching point. But I also will say, and I'm gonna also tune in too, as our closest to 21-year-old resident,

Starting point is 00:17:04 but I also wanna talk about this corner of TikTok And I'm gonna also tune into as our closest to 21 year old resident, but the I also want to talk about this like corner of tik-tok that this is in because it's absolutely not for me and something that I know that Other people I know like really fuck with which is like feminine energy Tik-tok like there's a comment here that says commenting to stay on feminine energy tik-tok and so there is an element of like the like affirmations and just like the kind of spiritual element of things that People like find meaning in find comfort in and I don't want to take anything away from that so we find this interesting trying to like distance some of those some of the like

Starting point is 00:17:41 Interesting. Trying to distance some of those, some of the like, practical advice from like the, the energy kind of like side of things. I do think like similar to like the alpha male podcasters, like this is a woman trying to do the same thing, but from a female perspective, right? Sure. thing but from a female perspective, right? And I do think both sides have really toxic information sometimes. And both sides can be beneficial to people. If some people have the right internal filter where they automatically filter out all the stuff that could be harmful and only

Starting point is 00:18:25 get the like valuable lessons from it. Like I, when I was listening to like Gary V podcast when I was in my early twenties, I could extract value from them even though I think that there's a lot of things where you could extract the wrong lessons from them. You know? I mean, I was a, I was a Rogan boy. I was 12 years ago. I was a Rogan boy.

Starting point is 00:18:49 I was supposed to be a, your honor, I'm a simple Joe Rogan. A simple MMA loving Rogan boy. When I was like 19, I liked MMA and he would talk a lot about that as an actual position of authority. And then he would just talk to random like weirdos and then like maybe switch off.

Starting point is 00:19:03 It was before his dog whistles just turned into yelling, before he just started saying like, it's good to kill people that you don't like. I do have like a bias towards, maybe this is just my fatherless behavior, but I do have, I do get a little bit of catharsis in like classic trad dude being like, yeah, it's good to work out and stay in shape. So I started working out and I felt a lot better and that was all there. That is, but that is a, there's a trap version of that, which is that men think the only valid form of self care is working out and making money. And it's like losing if you do something else

Starting point is 00:19:45 And we should say that the the mask version of this is always Because I am we're talking about this out of interest or criticism. I think it's just interesting And sorry to keep interrupting you Anastasia who brought this to us was it Haley or Shannon? Well, we have a couple of wonderful researchers in addition to our team, both of whom currently are women, but we are looking to bring on some differing perspectives. From my perspective, like as a young woman,

Starting point is 00:20:21 when I was a young woman, how I loved hearing women say like, you know, you got to be confident and love yourself and blah, blah, blah. Like that's all great and positive. But then I think similarly to you wanting to work out and feel good about yourself. Like there is a dark side to it too, being like, money is good and being praised for your looks is good and like, and acquirable, like unconditionally can be done. Like, Hey, you're poor cause you're not putting the hours in kind of. Exactly. And so I do think it's like, while you, while I even as like,

Starting point is 00:21:02 as a young woman would get some kind of power and affirmation from people being like, work on yourself and love yourself and stuff. I was also anorexic. You know what I mean? So it was like, there's a flip side to it. The result was happening, but the method was not, it was very unhealthy.

Starting point is 00:21:21 You weren't getting actually what you needed. I'm glad that we've had all these upfront discussions that kind of frame any of our future watching of these tech talks. But I do want to hear for peeps is perspective. Yeah, I do. I have thoughts and a lot of them are similar to what you guys have been saying. This side of tick tock. It's not like inherently bad, you know, like, yeah, like having affirmations is fine.

Starting point is 00:21:46 Like having spirituality is fine. All that. I don't like when it gets into the how to make blank, do blank. I don't think it's even- It starts to feel to me a little Etsy spells. Yeah, like whatever. Which is like, I mean, that's, that's fine.

Starting point is 00:22:04 Yeah, not even like in the spiritual sense though, but like just like how to, I'm not saying she's doing this specifically, it almost feels manipulative, like how to make people do things. And in any case, I'm like, if a man is going to worship you as a goddess, he should want to do that.

Starting point is 00:22:25 You should find a man that wants to do that on his own. And it's not as a result of your spells. And it's not as a result of you using your tricks and stuff, you know? I think you should, or like, how to make people, how to make people love you. It's like, no, if they're gonna love you for you, if you find the right person, like that sort of thing.

Starting point is 00:22:44 And it does create a paradigm where you can fail at it. Yeah. You can be not lovable. I think this is very similar to like, obviously, like, I love, like being a girl's girl, like building women, building women up. But at the same time, there is a toxic femininity as there is a toxic masculinity. And so I feel like this kind of reaches that line where it's like, oh, I followed what you said to do and someone just gave me a hundred dollars

Starting point is 00:23:14 because he was entranced by me. And I'm like, that's not normal society. That's not what we should like. The modifier being that we are, I think, tradmask alpha space will always be a decent amount more dangerous culturally, just because of the power that it has. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:23:34 Regardless of like kind of what it's a little like, the black manosphere is dangerous, the white manosphere is lethal. It also kind of gives the sense, again, not heard directly, but just these actions kind of gives the sense, again, not her directly, but just these actions kind of give the sense that if you succeed in doing this, it kind of makes me perceive that you think you're better than other people. You're putting yourself above others.

Starting point is 00:23:57 You're like, I'm so good at what I do. People just give me things. People just buy me stuff. People just give me $100 because I'm awesome. And it's like, you can think that you're awesome and you could that's also have all the self-confidence you want sure but don't make it other people's problems yeah I don't like judging my own worth based on how much attention I get from men in particular but the general public getting attention should not be connected with my worth at all. Right.

Starting point is 00:24:25 Like in my opinion. Let's finish this before we speak anymore. Finish this. I just want to make friends and your energy is so good and bought me a Starbucks drink. Never opened my own doors. People are always saying that they're literally obsessed with my energy.

Starting point is 00:24:40 Guys are always saying that they want to date me. They want to be exclusive with me right away. What we are using is the princess treatment formula me, they want to be exclusive with me right away. What we are using is the Princess Treatment Formula Guide. Wanting to be exclusive right away is not necessarily a good thing, you know? Guys are constantly following me around, they're yelling at me in the street. It does feel dangerous, like I'm afraid.

Starting point is 00:24:58 I'm like, be careful if you employ these strategies. I've had situations where I'm kind of like, I've been on like two dates with a guy and he has not really asked me any questions about myself, doesn't really know me at all, and is like, okay, let's be my girlfriend, let's be exclusive, blah, blah, blah, and I'm like, I don't know you and you don't know me.

Starting point is 00:25:26 Like what, it's a turn off. Yeah, but he's acquiring you. You become an accessory. I feel like it's a little bit of a turn off for me personally, I'm not saying everyone should feel this way. Just to be like, I want you to like me for me and get to know me.

Starting point is 00:25:40 I don't want you to like immediately be like, I don't know. Well, immediately be like, I don't know. Well, think of it from his perspective. He walked around in the tall grass, engaged in a battle with you, hit you a few times, got your health down to yellow. What, is he not supposed to throw a pokeball? How many attacks is he supposed to do?

Starting point is 00:25:58 Is he supposed to fricking wait until you've got like a thin little slice of red health before he throws his pokeball? He throws once and then you flee. And it's like, what am I supposed to roses pokeball then you flee and that's like Like what he's only got was this is a barry zone Anyway, that's on that's all you know what I'm saying peeps I didn't use false wipe didn't use a shadow tag

Starting point is 00:26:21 No arena trap. No arena trap. What if you explode? What if you explode? What if you explode? What if you get, what if you get gusted or roared? That's all I'm saying dude. Use your brain. Okay, I told you guys before we started recording, I am dating, I'm not good at dating.

Starting point is 00:26:36 Okay, that's fine. It's a horde battle. And what if, don't even get me started on a 4v4. Dude, you're such a bad mon. Alright, let's watch more. You wanna be exclusive with me right away. What we are using is the Princess Treatment Formula Guide. This will basically walk you through step by step

Starting point is 00:26:54 how to instantly activate your feminine energy. Okay, so this is where we officially start to get into my like worry zone. The sale of, you know, it's like, okay, now we're doing the sale. There's a product I see. Yeah, yeah. This is what you were talking about where like there's, there's room to fail now. Like there, there's something with a step-by-step guide. This is what you need to achieve. Now you

Starting point is 00:27:15 can fail at it. Structurally speaking, it's hustlers university to me. Yeah. Yeah. Like, and so that's like where I start to worry. It's the external optics of Hustlers University before, which is like Hustlers University, summarizing one with somebody who's never heard about it, progress, you know, you're working on yourself, trying to get a little better and you're like, oh no, tight, how much, oh it's a million dollars, that's a little weird, but I can keep looking.

Starting point is 00:27:36 Human trafficking, you said? Well, that's a little fun. As always, like, now there's a financial incentive for her to just say whatever to get the sale So it's also this is also just my personal bias whenever an influencer Speaks like with such certainty on what they are doing that works for them and like Almost the brag element of a guys are constantly asking me on dates and give me gifts and they will they will do it for you

Starting point is 00:28:03 Too if you do exactly what I tell you doctors are constantly telling me I dates and give me gifts and they will they will do it for you, too If you do exactly what I thought you're constantly telling me half an inch taller here it is Playing a video game with a morality system and you get like more Experience if you're good or like something more gold if you're bad There's like rules people just come up and just give you more and like wow I guess that was for no reason This will basically walk you through step by step, how to instantly activate your feminine energy in the moment, tell you exactly how to act in situations, tell you exactly what to say with scripts. You're the problem.

Starting point is 00:28:35 Scrips? Scrips? To get everybody to be obsessed with you. See, make everyone obsessed with you. That's what I was talking about with the, with the, I don't want that. And also like, that's not, that's not what you should want. I don't want someone to want to be with me because of a script that I read.

Starting point is 00:28:54 I want something to read. What if it's really good? What if it's like a beautiful script? What if it's like the crying game? Oh, yeah. It's just like a beautiful screenplay. What if it's like, just cause I'm a bug catcher doesn't mean I can't battle.

Starting point is 00:29:07 Yeah. Digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga. Digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga. Digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga digga dig I guess my bugs weren't strong enough this time. Check out my cute Pokemon. Swat it again. The lilypuff? Faints. Check out my cute Pokemon. Stomp it with a cure. Yeah, check out my fucking Groudon. Is there, um, on the bingo board peeps, is there something like mapping Pokemon onto every other situation? Well, I haven't been doing it enough lately, but I recently got into this like a PDF. It's a Pokemon trainer formula Yeah, yeah, and it's helping it's giving me the perfect scripts in every situation to become up to me all the time

Starting point is 00:29:55 And they go here take this starter Pokemon and I say why not what's Gary having all right? rivals walk up to me all the time and they go Yeah, I go wow All right rivals walk up to me all the time and they go Yeah Did they buy me a moomoo milk and I'm like they said they just want to be my friend yeah Did they watch that my grass type energy they want my grass they want my energy cards. You know, it's a truly sinister thing. It's someone by buying the Scene of the the anime where there's like a Pokemon suckling on a mill tanks teeth. Oh, I have seen that it's not another mill tank. I can't remember

Starting point is 00:30:37 Remember who is doing it, but it's in the end. It's not a baby mill tank. I don't want to write that you don't want to see I mean, I've drawn it i Did some commissions oh my god, oh yeah so me out Have you seen there i'm pretty sure there was like you don't have to defend this in the sneaker chair where's In the sneeko chair right now. Look at that photo at the center where he's beginning. Yeah. Oh my god. I'm like, whoa.

Starting point is 00:31:09 I'm pretty sure there's an account that's all vintage photos of cats drinking straight from cow's teats. What? Vintage photos. Yeah. Vintage photos? Vintage photos of cats. Even when you're not going to look this up. Okay, let's move on.

Starting point is 00:31:24 We're never going to make it through this video at this rate yeah keep going show me the formula it is so good it works literally instantly when you use it and you can get instant access to it in my profile link the first step in activating your feminine energy is obviously looking feminine an easy way to do that is to wear skirts or dresses all the time in the formula it actually gave me literal examples Pinterest boys exactly what to wear to be extremely feminine classy not to be rude, but I'm like Pinterest board They already like recommend stuff with AI

Starting point is 00:31:54 So I feel like you just click like one girl in a sundress and then this Dude that peeps is Exasperated right now floating above the chair. I've never seen Peeps. Peeps has never, never given me get off my lawn energy before, but this was a like, darn tootin', you better not talk about that, P.T.N. It's something that kind of hits like a little close

Starting point is 00:32:18 just because of my journey with femininity and gender in general. The first step, it already knocks out a wide percent of the population. Because so many girls don't wanna look extremely feminine all the time, or specifically that type of feminine. You don't, oh, you need to have the contemporary

Starting point is 00:32:38 pretty girl in a sundress look if you want guys to like you ever. That's point blank. And it's like, no, that's not, because there are so many types of being feminine, and there's so many ways you could dress to get people to like you. So no one can have their own style anymore.

Starting point is 00:32:51 You have to look like this to get the guy. Tell me if this, you resonate with this. It feels like it's appealing to an existing stereotype that is like something that men are taught to like value is like girly girl like being oh so helpless damsel in distress. It's a little bit pull up your pants. Pull up your pants, take off your pants I guess. The style she described saying like she,

Starting point is 00:33:22 okay well maybe that's on me because she literally just said dresses and skirts, but it makes me think of how like all women dressed in like the 50s and 60s. Which is back to that. Well, and that's when it starts to feel like the Andrew Tate like, we're not the same shit. Exactly, this is what men like,

Starting point is 00:33:36 dress for how the men like, so that you can get that, so you make them like you. You get two Starbucks drinks. It is like a, like like when you order something on Amazon with a really long obscure name, and you're like, I kinda just wanted a screwdriver, and it turns up, and it's like, oh, it came with a bunch of glitter,

Starting point is 00:33:51 and some extra doorknobs, I didn't want all this stuff. It's like that, but it arrives, and you're like, okay, yeah, sort of self-improvement style. What's this about, Tread Wife? I didn't want this part here, okay. Clousy, feminine. It's like Gnarris Smith's starter kit. It's always a countdown to just like yeah being a man

Starting point is 00:34:09 Here's how to feel more confident when you work around it. Nice. Nice Here's how to like improve yourself and maybe match up to some physical things you want as a man I was like, yeah, don't fuck yeah respect. He's not a yell at a woman that won't talk to you All right Like so many people in my life who are close to me, including my mom, say that if I wore skirts and dresses, which I don't really, I mean, I will on occasion, but not that often.

Starting point is 00:34:34 You're in a mech suit right now. People telling me, show off your figure, show more cleavage. People telling me that shit in order to attract other people. And I'm like, that is just not me. That is just, I don't feel comfortable in that style. And also, why do they need you to do it? Yeah, exactly.

Starting point is 00:34:54 What is it about, like, why do you want other people to conform to something? What is it that you get out of it? And why do you care? Like, I would rather have someone be attracted to me for me and not for some fake style that I feel completely I would rather have someone be attracted to me for me and not for some fake style that I feel completely uncomfortable in.

Starting point is 00:35:10 Right, because it gives, sure you get more amount of attention, but are you getting the right attention? Exactly. Because it creates more of a noise to sift through. And if you don't get it, you fail that. When I was growing up, I'm the youngest of four girls. In this case, I'm calling myself a girl because it's just easier with my sisters.

Starting point is 00:35:31 But I get in trouble? Yeah! But they, all my life, it took, they all started wearing makeup and pretty clothes by the time they were 10, you know, they're just doing their thing. And I, by know, pretty clothes by the time they were 10, you know, they're just like doing their thing. And I, by 15, still. You wanted to dress like Peter Pan.

Starting point is 00:35:49 Yeah. I still wasn't wearing makeup. I wasn't trying to do anything with my hair. I was wearing a Markiplier hoodie every day. Like I was, I was. Fucking dork. I was like. I was like.

Starting point is 00:36:00 You're a diawood cat, so mean. So mean. I'm just kidding. I love you. I love you. You're a die-with cast, so mean. So mean. I'm just kidding. I love that. Sad with love, sad with love. Yeah, well, maybe you're good.

Starting point is 00:36:13 Markiplier ready every day. Yeah, of course. Dude. T-shirt with a mustache on it. Obsessed with Pokemon. Black t-shirt, white Texas. As my other t-shirt is a market player. Black and white check vans.

Starting point is 00:36:29 Just joshing. They would try to get me to wear makeup or do my hair. And then they would apparently go to my parents, but why doesn't people want to do this? Why don't they ever let us? Because they just want to, I mean, to their defense, I'm the smallest. They want to dress me up like a doll the smallest, they wanna dress me, they wanna dress me up

Starting point is 00:36:45 in like a doll or something. Yeah. Oh, I'll let you down off the shelf for a sec by the way, whenever you wanna get down off the. It was like a situation where it's like, okay, maybe that's how a lot of girls wanna present themselves, but I don't feel the same. And that ended up being, oh, I'm not a girl,

Starting point is 00:37:03 I'm realizing that. And I, but even now, when I realized I was non-binary, I went strictly against anything feminine. Now I'm coming back into it and I actually really like the feminine look, but I still don't like dresses or skirts or anything, I like the- But it's also, you're getting to choose- Exactly.

Starting point is 00:37:20 Like what you want to- The problem was never the dress, it was the- Yeah, it was the my personal style. And even like one of the comments says, in short, people will treat you the way you present to engage with. The problem was never the dress, it was the sun. Yeah, it was my personal style. And even one of the comments says, in short, people will treat you the way you present yourself, period. Which is like, yes. But not for the way they think.

Starting point is 00:37:32 But not for the way you think. Because if I dress, if my style is grunge, and someone, the type of men that she's trying to attract sees me and is like, ew, I hate women that that dress like that. Why would I want to attract him anyway? You're trying to attract an animatronic teddy bear. I want to attract someone else that likes grunt. You're trying to get ready for that. Yeah, you're trying to hit up the bear. You think I'm weird? Yeah, and that's why I'm in this full Zoroark suit. It's a cool look, by the way.

Starting point is 00:38:06 Kind of fills out the chat. Would it be okay to just jump to the Lincoln bio that has the- Yeah, where does this go? I mean, let's just- It's still, there's a lot left. Let's watch this with our microphones down. The second thing is when you walk into a room,

Starting point is 00:38:19 you cannot be putting your energy outward. That will make you demagnetize. So instead of going into a room and being like, oh, I hope people like me. Oh, I hope he really likes me. I hope he gives me princess treatment. I hope he asks me out. You want to walk into a room with all of your energy on you.

Starting point is 00:38:35 Thinking about how obsessed you are with yourself. Thinking about how amazing your life is. This is a roundabout way. It feels like a mental framework for tricking yourself into self-love, which is fine. Like those things, it's very much like what's wrong with cleaning your room. It's like actually like that kind of self-love is something that I wish I practiced more, you know, in my youth. I think that can be very valuable.

Starting point is 00:39:02 Yeah, especially in the foundational years. Yeah, yeah. Luxen. There's a difference between self-love and being obsessed with yourself. Yeah, that's fair. Where like you can be obsessed with yourself, whatever. Don't make it other people's problem. Right. I think that's a three line.

Starting point is 00:39:15 Yeah. Whenever you, again, it comes back to the being so obsessed with yourself that you put yourself above others. But self-love in spite of others. Self love to make others obsessed with you. External needed via. Yeah. I don't think we watched it on the show.

Starting point is 00:39:38 I felt very conflicted about this particular, if you need to be a real man, but you know, one of those shorts, there was this guy be a real man, but you know, one of those, those shorts, there was this guy who was wearing the classic hilarious tiny suit, but was super jacked, you know, the, the body paint tightness. It was just like a formal power ranger. And he just was doing one of those things. It's like, when you sit from a drink, never put your pinky out or I'll shoot you in the head. And then he had one where he was talking about how to sit down.

Starting point is 00:40:07 He was talking about like, he's had to sit down in a chair and he said, he's done so. And I saw everybody clowning on him. And I would still clown him because it is just so profoundly insecure. And that kind of goes against his whole, you know, back. But something about it connected with me. I watched that and I went, yeah, honestly, I do feel insecure when I, partially because I'm a spider legs, I'm built like a backslash. I, when I want to sit down, I kind of like my big backslash legs kind of like wobble into place. And I'm like trying to

Starting point is 00:40:38 angle myself and Star Trek Next Generation, Ryker taught me that I can step over the chair and sit down. And it is partially a little more comfortable, but it is like a masculine performance thing. And I'm like... We made it up. Oh yeah, yeah, the story's back. But it was beyond belief. Nah, just having a fracas over here. The way that I sit does make me feel better in the moment.

Starting point is 00:41:02 Like if I sit in a way that doesn't make me anxious, then I'm going to have a nicer next five minutes with the person, right? I'm less insecure. It's a 1% thing, but it's something I can just do for myself. If instead I got pissed off the way other people sit down, now it is like, granted, you know, the happiest way to be would be for me to excise this insecurity entirely for me to like sit down on my face and for it not to not bother me but You know, I if I take a bite of chocolate, I can't go. Mmm Maybe I want to that's exactly what I do when I take a bite of chocolate We inherited this fear of the

Starting point is 00:41:43 Earlier today I said to Jordan yum. Yum. Yum. Give me some Well, that was you in your energy more than what for sure and then a man burst through the glass and said date me madam You're being acquired. Can I buy you a hundred dollar coffee or whatever? This the idea of like having confident. So, but okay, this is polluting something that I think is very real and then, and then making money off of it. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:42:16 And that's also what's wrong, quote unquote, with the toxic mail, you know, podcast as well, where it's like, it is actually just preying upon the insecurities of mostly young people or awkward people or people who feel alone in life and then making money off of it. Sure, yeah. And I think that's the problem with this because there's nothing wrong with self-love

Starting point is 00:42:42 and being like- Definitely. Giving yourself those affirmations that you young awkward and alone Babes gave the sign I am tongue out But I think that like It then gets taken to an extreme being like you should be obsessed with yourself and it's like oh my god Am I wrong for not being obsessed with myself? And the thing is, I feel like I don't always take these things at face value,

Starting point is 00:43:13 because I'm like, maybe she's just exaggerating, maybe she doesn't mean obsessed, maybe she's trying to drive home this point of like, obsessive self-love because people are so because the people she's trying to reach are so far away from that goal. They'll meet in the middle. The hyperbole. So it's like, I try to give benefit of the doubt,

Starting point is 00:43:33 but then I'm like, okay, but what are you selling? Let's click the link in the description. And also, it is interesting to use the, like it's almost like pseudoscientific, the way she talks about it'll demagnetize you if you. Yeah, but that's actually a lot of feminine energy TikTok, is this pseudoscientific. Like and I'll just say that I do have one foot

Starting point is 00:43:57 in the astrology witchy side of things. I did take a witch class. Wait, so. I saw one surprising. It's like a full class. Wait, so I saw it surprising. We can someone read this bio. Can someone read this bio from a young age? Ariana grew up with an immigrant family from Columbia, where her family and society instilled values of fear,

Starting point is 00:44:20 poverty and lack. Ariana, being an old soul had an inner knowledge that she could have anything she wanted. In high school, she graduated with a 2.4 GPA, but manifested getting accepted to private universities with a scholarship. She manifested that. What?

Starting point is 00:44:42 Is it, is a scholarship always, is it always for something, like a scholarship's always like? No, I mean they can be merit-based, need-based. There's lots of, and also like there's- They could be for being left-handed. If you're in a certain club or do a certain hobby or whatever, like there's scholarships for that. It depends on where the scholarship comes from though, because it's like, like their scholarships for that. It depends on where the scholarship comes from though, because it's like, it can be from internally at the school,

Starting point is 00:45:09 it could be externally, like I would apply for external scholarships to help pay my way through school. And that would kind of just be like cash that would go into your like school or your bank account. Is it, they're not loans, right? No. Okay. Though loans are a form of financial aid that you can get for- Yeah.

Starting point is 00:45:31 Sometimes it's like low interest loans or whatever. Yeah, I went loan mode. When she turned 18, she manifested a multiple six figure business online in less than six months from her bedroom. Wait, it's not a single six-figure? It's multiple six-figures.

Starting point is 00:45:50 Multiple six-figures. So the interesting thing to me is she manifested. And I would just say she did it. She achieved, I mean, it's. Yeah, that doesn't feel very appealing as a client. But I think that the idea is like the act of like wanting and putting forth the energy grants you all of these things that you deserve.

Starting point is 00:46:14 But I think this is using the language of a certain spirituality in order to prey on that group. Like the thing that I, you know, I'll be completely frank with you guys, man not shown on my face, but mentally my eyes were rolling into the back of my head. At 20 she manifested retirement after purchasing her dream property in Miami in cash.

Starting point is 00:46:37 Paying off her brand new BMW and having all her bills paid a year in advance. Why would you do that? But also buying a property in cash also not the best idea. Not to be a financial wizard or whatever. This is the kind of language that created an online culture targeted mostly to young people,

Starting point is 00:47:02 where it's like you if you don't To be able to buy a house in cash is like not something a lot of people can do so right especially so young especially so young and then it feels like it's it's trying to She seemed average when she's clearly not like she's an enterprising young woman who's achieved great things for herself Clearly not, like she's an enterprising young woman who's achieved great things for herself. But she was like this small little bean nearly failed out of school and through sheer belief. Through thinking really hard.

Starting point is 00:47:34 To get a big house. Manifested retirement. That's what bothers me. I don't understand what that means. It means she has so much money she never has to work again. Multiple six figures. But the thing is she's not retired.

Starting point is 00:47:45 She is working. Yeah. She's on Instagram and TikTok. Manifesting the six figure business and manifesting retirement is that if she truly just manifested it, no one would need her course or whatever she's selling. Well, you need to learn how to manifest

Starting point is 00:48:03 because you're doing it wrong actually peeps your manifest You're actually really bad at manifesting and I need to show you how I can show you guys how to do it a little bit Give me something to like summon. I would love Starbucks I would love a star but I would love to Starbucks for free from my strangers from strangers for my vibe Oh you coffee not poop Starbucks for free from my strangers from strangers for my vibe Okay, so so is I assume she's selling stuff here What is this another trick that like financial influencers and like toxic male? Podcasters always do where they show Yeah, you show a screenshot board. This is like so text. But it's like collage of

Starting point is 00:48:55 screenshot I think that's true. It's true! Collage is a very feminine art form. What is she selling where you have one new customer to offer sold in $1800 net revenue? I can't just say this is completely to everything. Hey, if you're getting that many notifications off, go ahead and turn those off. Yeah, go ahead and turn those off. No, that's the day that you just set it up and you didn't even get around to setting up the notifications.

Starting point is 00:49:26 You just started manifesting so many sales so quick. Oh, you did so well in the first few moments of opening your Shopify. You pooped out a bunch of notifications. Oh, that makes so much sense. I'm generating revenue. I'm manifesting it. Listen to my podcast on Spotify.

Starting point is 00:49:41 I will not. Look at the collage of things she manifested. That's a good cover art. I gotta say. I mean it's like a vision board type vibe. Yeah. Yeah, look the thing is. Just steal a little bit of money in the corner.

Starting point is 00:49:55 That's really funny. The thing is I wanna be overly fair and because as a guy I don't just wanna be like shitting on this woman or women who may be finding these things valuable, so I'm a little bit leaning on you guys' experience as someone who would have been or are in the like target demographic. But where do I spend cash?

Starting point is 00:50:21 That's what I'm wondering. Okay, we can follow, we can subscribe. We want to buy, though. Follow me, follow me, follow me. Wait, how do I, madam? Wait, scroll up. Hello. So that's the princess treatment formula.

Starting point is 00:50:36 Monthly $250? Wait, what's the 37 USD down there? That's just for the formula. Wait, wait. Can I, I want the formula. Normally it's 250. Well, that's the classic thing you do on these sell pages, is you save it, normally it's a billion,

Starting point is 00:50:49 but like for the Lolo right now, you can get it for a nickel. Yeah. And it's only just gonna be like this for now, for now. The price is increasing soon. Right, 100%. Are you kidding me? Oh shoot, so we should get it now though.

Starting point is 00:51:01 Wait, let me manifest it. The video version for free. We need to manifest. Guys, I wanna buy it. Wait, do they have ratings? It says five star ratings, but are there actual reviews? get it now though wait let me man a version for we need a man guys I want to buy it wait do they have ratings does five star ratings are there actual reviews wait it's just five stars and then it says five star ratings ah yes there's five star five stars five five star rooms there's five one star rating but how many big boobs there's no There are no, these DMs that she received.

Starting point is 00:51:26 These text messages. What, it's just like, I don't understand why you said manifest when it's like, the person's emailing you, like, I do remote sales, and it's like, it just feels like any other drop shipping business all of a sudden. So while I was on my meeting, all the big tasks were suddenly no longer given to me,

Starting point is 00:51:41 but to other coworkers who chose to grind and hustle. And I was just chilling. So you shouldn't grind and hustle. So I was just chilling the whole day as well doing minimum work. Spending my whole day taking care of me. That's always an option. When you're underperforming at your job,

Starting point is 00:51:57 oftentimes your tasks are given to other people because you're gonna get fired pretty soon. Yeah, and then they see you're not doing any work and they're like, you need to leave. I think I might have manifested my current job. Seeing here going like, man. This is also interesting because it's kind of the opposite of like a hustler bro.

Starting point is 00:52:17 Because then they're like, no, do the minimum work for the most amount of output possible. I actually think it's very funny to girl boss, like just not showing up to your job Everyone's allowed to do that So funny about this is that she is hustling she's making content online Yeah, absolutely these things and then she this is kind of actually very

Starting point is 00:52:42 typical of Someone selling you something like this kind of actually very typical of someone selling you something like this, where they kind of promise you everything. Everything. Like not only are you going to make so much money and get attention from people and have, you know. It's such a good promise.

Starting point is 00:53:02 You get to receive the most exclusive opportunities in the world for simply existing. I do. Yeah, I mean not you. You're gonna be one of the men and people in society who are serving her and giving the princess treatment. You're gonna get a punch of a face for something. Is that how you identify, Peebs?

Starting point is 00:53:18 I always thought, geez. Person in society? Yeah. There's men and there's people in society. There's a, there's a. And then there's ladies. There's Mr. and Mrs. and people in society. And then there's ladies. There's Mr. and Mrs. and people in society. People in society. P.I.S.

Starting point is 00:53:29 I saw you were filling out like a form the other day and you had to select you lot. Yeah. It was Mr. and Mrs. and them, that lot. So I'm actually gonna do this. I'm gonna manifest free gifts and trips and well trips actually that's happening. How about this? Shopping job opportunities and then next week

Starting point is 00:53:46 we can check in. Yeah, I think we should. If that's something you guys wanna see. We had a couple more TikToks at first we wanted to watch, right? Yeah. My man has really lost interest. So I wanna make him obsessed with me again.

Starting point is 00:53:59 So let's do the fourth one. Oh, perfect. Really lost interest. I've never met him and he doesn't exist. If that man has lost interest, he's not giving you Princess Treatment. He's literally not like obsessed with you like he used to. Let me tell you how to flip the script, baby, okay?

Starting point is 00:54:11 And when I say this literally works, I mean it. Not a thing that is exclusive to her or even about this video, but whenever someone is doing a story time, this type of video irks me so bad. I have to scroll past it immediately. Whenever they say they're doing something, they're doing like, hey, get ready with me.

Starting point is 00:54:26 They say one sentence, pause it, do the next thing, pause it. That's nothing that she's doing. Like that's nothing like against her specifically. That just trope of doing that always, that's a pet peeve of mine. That's funny. I thought you were gonna mention. That has nothing to do with this, but I'm just, that I.

Starting point is 00:54:42 You know, what do you watch like a movie and somebody almost sips and then says it makes me Type of video there's a very good chance like her makeup's already on she's not doing her makeup I on condition these poor women but yeah, like whatever if that bothers you Yeah, I just sit down and listen. So that's what kind of what I'm trying to do right now. Oops Okay, and when I say this literally works, I mean it this is not a flex but like every single guy Ever tried to ghost me has literally come running back To me on the span of literally just a couple months to be like, oh my gosh, like are you still single?

Starting point is 00:55:13 Please I want to take you out on a date. I want to treat you like a queen like I made such a big mistake what we did was watch the videos in the high value woman formula and when You've been looking for the answers to make you that girl to make him obsessed with you to make him chase you to make him literally give you Princess treatment and want to commit to you right now and you can get instant access to all of those videos. If you go to my profile and go to the second section Princess

Starting point is 00:55:39 treatment daughter or high value male son. That's so funny. Yeah, day trader son or Tumblr daughter. Thought, podcaster or? Or Jacob. Or Jacob. Or Jacob the snake. The only reason why he's not obsessed with you right now

Starting point is 00:55:59 and he's not giving you princess treatment is because he literally doesn't take you seriously. This is how you make him obsessed with you, literally instantly. First thing you're. This is how you make him obsessed with you literally instantly First thing you're gonna do is you're gonna shock him by That's what ash said about onyx Here's what you're gonna do we got sprinklers on in the gym. Pikachu, you're gonna shock him. That'd be good. I think she means figuratively shock him. I hope she doesn't mean electrically.

Starting point is 00:56:27 She means Milgram style. Stanley Milgram style. They make some run back. Not only is she saying it in every sentence, but saying literally is used as an emphasis to be like, no, this actually happens. This is what it will do. And so I think her saying literally so much

Starting point is 00:56:43 is just another thing that, wanted to speak rather, I'm not gonna stop that. She's literally just a girl, can you guys relax? Travis has been worried that we would never police women's language like this. People in the comments are gonna be like, oh, it's going to work because she's saying it literally works.

Starting point is 00:56:58 She's saying because that means it has to, that's the truth then. What do you think? This is intentional, like I think she's saying literally with intention, she wants to keep repeating it. It's almost like a sales pitch. She repeats that and then she repeats that.

Starting point is 00:57:12 He'll be obsessed, obsessed, obsessed. And I'm like, you don't. There is no middle ground. It's like such ends of the extremes. He's obsessed. He ghosted or he obsessed. And this will literally make him come crawling back to you because of the fact that when you start leveling up,

Starting point is 00:57:30 he starts seeing you as out of his league. This is just not a relationship I want to have. Yeah. It sounds extremely stressful. Yeah, right? If you wear the right dress the right time, he will drop kick through your lobby window. He will attack the guy from desk.

Starting point is 00:57:45 It's me when I'm playing Final Fantasy. I need to be leveling up. If you change everything about yourself right now, exactly how I tell you to do it, then he will come back and then he'll go steal again, but it's okay, you can get him back if you change it again. If you keep leveling up. Just do the formula again.

Starting point is 00:57:57 The power scaling of this relationship is insane. It's not sustainable. I just feel like I can actually think about my past relationships in this way. They're running at you. And it's not a good relationship. Like having it where someone is chasing and someone's running away and like having the power balance be off or whatever.

Starting point is 00:58:19 It's like, if that's how you think about relationships, that just doesn't feel sustainable in a relationship Yeah, I cannot imagine anything worse in any relationship Then waking up to a really big text that that's what this reads like to me is waking up to like Jesus stop thinking about you. I'm outside I Oh, Jesus, can't stop thinking about you. I am outside I Got your starbuck's window all night long who gave you that coffee? So I just start one random thing and it's just because I don't Wear makeup. I think there is something always a little stressful to me when the poking stuff near their eye Oh, yeah, it's just I think feeling it a uniquely kind of, she's like, and that's the thing that'll be,

Starting point is 00:59:05 and they go, oh. I think that's my other pet peeve with Get Ready With Me videos, is that you would be ready so much faster if you were ready for the video. Maybe she's on FaceTime. She spent the first half of the video on her left eyebrow. She also started with makeup on.

Starting point is 00:59:19 Yeah, I was like. So it's like. Maybe she's taking it off. This is a performance. Yeah. You're lying. It's interesting though, because I do, this, I is a performance. Yeah. You're lying. It's interesting though, cause I do this, I can't speak with authority,

Starting point is 00:59:29 but yeah, the presentation and like framing of a Get Ready With Me for like, when you're just like spilling the tea, is funny when it becomes just the shape of it without the function. Yeah. Cause it's like, you're already ready. Isn't there a term that you've taught,

Starting point is 00:59:48 you've told me that the term for like why a, the trash can on your desktop is in the shape of a paper bin. Oh, that's, that's skeuomorphism. It's almost like that to an extent in like the production element where it's like, we're doing it, get ready with me because I'm telling you something.

Starting point is 01:00:03 Not because it's something to do with getting ready for the day or something in the morning. Or like, this film is in black and white because it's poignant. Not because it had to be. This is familiar to you and it means something when I do this this way. The violin rising is tension because it's a violin.

Starting point is 01:00:17 It's like why commentary thumbnails all look the same. Like again, it's not, it's nothing against her specifically or her video specifically. But like opening mascara Just to end the clip again And then getting ready to put mascara on and then getting distracted by what you're saying ending the clip again And then finally putting it on it's like okay, just I you know it's funny

Starting point is 01:00:35 That doesn't is it a pet peeve of mine, but it is like a fun Thing to experience because it's the like show the product Yeah, use the product like it's like it's all like the it's it's the like show the product, use the product. Like it's like, it's all like the, it's, it's the, the trail, the trail, the train tracks laid by like beauty influencers past. I've created this infrastructure. We don't have the format for the, for the cringe. We don't have that as,

Starting point is 01:00:59 I'm quite enjoying it anthropologically. It's funny to think of like, yeah, I guess that would be, you know, it'd be like if there was a clip of somebody telling me to sit better or whatever, but they're painting an ultramarine or something, and they keep leaving, right? They keep leaving some of their prime blue bases open. I would watch you doing beauty style tutorials

Starting point is 01:01:23 of painting miniatures. Me doing a chaos space. But yeah, yeah. You're giving me like producer ideas of like videos that you should be doing. Yeah. And again, that everything I just said about that, nothing against her or other people that do it. My personal issue.

Starting point is 01:01:38 Uh, I'm going to go Mike down and watch this again. And then I want to find one more tick tock. I just want to give us a couple more examples. When he comes crawling back, you need to date him like a high value woman in your feminine energy. That means that you're not a people pleaser when you date him this time. It's not about him. It's all about you. And when I watched the videos, it literally showed me. Okay, I just think that it's like you said, Anastasia, like you want a relationship that's an exchange where it's not all about one. It's like, that's very binary, right? It's like all about you, all about them.

Starting point is 01:02:07 It's like, I think that the issue is that it should be an exchange, an equal exchange between two partners. What do they call it? It's almost like, um, it's almost like an arms race a little bit where it's like, yeah, it, one really at least has been expressed to me, a really shitty experience. As, um, uh, at least has been expressed to me, a really shitty experience as a woman or somebody presents feminine in any capacity to men. They are pressured to feel as though they cannot provide

Starting point is 01:02:34 like negative feedback or say no to things or be candid, that kind of stuff. And it's like, yes, push back against that, that is bad. And then it's like, bye. Ruining his life. And it's like, by ruining his life. And it's like, oh no no. You don't have to wear dresses. Make him feel like shit.

Starting point is 01:02:49 Dress like this to do it. Like ah. It's like that's, none of this is sustainable in a relationship, I think like. This is art of war. Yeah. Destroy it. You're not in competition with your partner.

Starting point is 01:03:01 How to make your former territory obsess with reuniting with you again If you piss in every corner of every room, he will know that you own Sorry, I was watching dog talk I live here in Miami, which is literally where the top 1% play and It is crazy how many exclusive invites, opportunities I get just from literally using these tips. First, the kind of girls that get into VIP, the kind of girls that, you know, marry these multi-millionaires, are the high-maintenance, feminine girlies.

Starting point is 01:03:37 And the way that you look is so important. If you look like you take care of yourself, you are automatically so elite. Like, if you keep your nails done, you look like such an elite woman. Do you think she works for the tourism board of Miami because she said that's where the 1% like? She attracted the city of Miami. Oh, oh, oh, that's right.

Starting point is 01:03:57 She manifested it. It actually wasn't a city. At the time no one played. At the time no one played, but then when she manifested the top 1% came to play. I believe it was the city where nobody works everything She said like you have to have a clear skin. You have to dress well you have to have your nails done All of that is

Starting point is 01:04:16 Very privileged stuff and she literally said the word privilege like it's You have to have money to be able to do most of those things You have to have money to be able to do most of those things. Have your nails constantly done. How you have to be, how to get classy slash feminine privilege in life is like be the picture of traditional beauty. Exactly. Yes. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:04:38 Like what if I wasn't- Easy. Be conventionally attractive. Born conventionally attractive, is she telling me to get plastic surgery and stuff? Have the face of a supermodel and the body of a supermodel. And use them together. The glasses of a supermodel, the money of a supermodel. And then you can attract these multimillionaires really easy. OK, easy peasy.

Starting point is 01:04:58 It's always a little depressing, I guess, because this is where I do feel like I object a little more to this kind of stuff, this particular framing, because this is where I do feel like I object a little more to this kind of stuff, this particular framing, because again, whenever criticizing it from what our experience of it is, our experience is just kind of funny, silly. I'm bothered by, I guess, for the experience of people that are more vulnerable to this kind of like, it just propagates so much of these like, like the mission is if women didn't already have enough expectations.

Starting point is 01:05:24 The mission of this is to Be invited to VIP. It's not to put yourself in a position professional Accessories like best possible Being invited to VIP is like Like sometimes that just is like being cool like if you're invited to a premiere It's like oh We just wanted cool people who are like cool to look at at the place we are so that it looks like we're cool.

Starting point is 01:05:48 Can't do that as a girl, though, is the idea. So it's like, just like an object, that in and of itself is like, in a way, objectification. And so like, when it's like professional, I just like the goal of just being VIP and being elite is so interesting to me. I think a lot of what she's saying sounds like things that women, roles that women are already forced into

Starting point is 01:06:12 which is like as an accessory. So it's like marry a rich man. Okay, so I'm an accessory to a rich man. I'm not getting rich myself. Unless you're her, in which case you are quote unquote manifesting infinite money, and that's on the website. I'm pretty sure. Oh, I forgot about men just handing me $100.

Starting point is 01:06:30 Yeah. Multiple six figures. So then, you know, getting invited to VIP places and like whatever, invited to Miami. The city of plague. Where the players play. These goals, these aren't my goals, and I think that's actually problem number one Even seeing her other tik-toks by watching this one all I have gathered is that her

Starting point is 01:06:58 mission statement is Be hot so men will give you things and marry you be hot so men will give you things and marry you. That's what I'm getting from it. Just be the most conventionally attractive person a man has ever seen, and now you get to be that rich man's wife. And that's what you are. If that is genuinely what you want

Starting point is 01:07:19 and you genuinely enjoy it, fuck yeah. Go for it. Go get it. I would love the same. But setting it as the virtuous thing to do as the goal of that's what makes you a lead as opposed to it's like, okay, what was the opposite of lead? Like, what if I don't do that? I'm low class surf. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the issue is just like, like I know, like I have friends who are like dealing with adult acne and it's like not a choice

Starting point is 01:07:51 of like just having clear skin. Right, well just have clear skin. Just have clear skin. Well have you told them to just have clear skin? Well you're not using enough of the right products because that's what it feels like to me. Buy, consume. It's like, it feels like, oh well it's your fault

Starting point is 01:08:04 that you're not conventionally attractive and have clear skin. The eczema that you have, it's your fault. It's like, well, I can't afford that many products. It's like, yeah, you should have worked harder to get it or you should have gotten $100. And it's like, how do I get out of this? And I don't wanna, while I do think that these

Starting point is 01:08:21 TikToks and things can be harmful, like, I don't necessarily want to vilify this young girl because she's young and she's like finding her way and finding what works through the world. I do have an issue of when you like treat it as if it's like holier than thou, sage advice. Because you've cracked the code. And it's like you just haven't lived enough life

Starting point is 01:08:44 to crack the code, And it's like you just haven't lived enough life to crack the code. But there are younger people who are feeding into this and don't have the life experience to like call bullshit. They're agreeing to this scoring method, right? They're saying, okay, yep, those are the rules and they can't win. So they are just setting it by those parameters These this is these are getting so many views like this is millions of views 350,000 likes you know what I think is a little different about this space though in general is I think it's a hell of a lot more

Starting point is 01:09:17 Sincere than the Manasphere stuff that to me I've never seen a Manasphere guy that is not grifter first and motivator second. This feels like it's naive and toxic through naivety. It's like maybe it's me giving the benefit of the doubt. It's like I wanna think that it's coming from a positive place, but then it's been commodified and it's being sold back. I'm much more of a pessimistic,

Starting point is 01:09:42 don't give the benefit of the doubt person. And I want you to have that perspective. pessimistic don't give the benefit of the devil person. And I want you to have that perspective. I'm glad that you are much nicer than I am. Well, we're empaths. In this respect. We're empaths and you're an energy vampire. Even good friends of mine are like,

Starting point is 01:10:00 I feel bad about myself when I watch these women on TikTok and I'm like, this is how to live. This is very like, what's the word? Emblematic of this whole thing, just this frame. How to get classy slash feminine privilege in life. If you have a nice body and have clear skin, it's like, okay. Yeah, it's like, okay.

Starting point is 01:10:25 Well, yeah. Okay. It's like, well. Yeah. Ah, rats. Yeah, it's like, okay. Well, yeah. Okay. It's like, well, if you, yeah. I'm all fucked up. Yeah, I mean, I'm scales from here down. Yeah. Do you think that's an issue? I've got it. What are the comments?

Starting point is 01:10:37 Like, how do the comments respond to something like this? Literally. Because I just worry about young girls who sort of, this feeds into more negative feelings about themselves. I'm concerned about like young dudes feeling like this is the merit of women, right? Like if I saw this, you know, I'm like 14 or something and kind of already a little misogynistic, I see this, I go like, yeah, they fucking should do that. I was just saying that on Reddit. Yeah. I was just on new ground saying that.

Starting point is 01:11:07 What did the person, what did the comment say of the person who said Pretty Pillagers real? Have you heard of the disadvantages of Pretty Pillagers? Okay. Yeah, I mean. Go ahead, elaborate. This, there's pros, but also cons. Please, what? Dude, yeah, well, you know, hey,

Starting point is 01:11:27 white people have some issues as well. You know, guys, I have too many coffees, guys. There's also reverse racism. Yeah. There's too many coffees in my hand. No, but there's, yeah, that's, the podcast is three seconds long. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:11:44 Short podcast this week, there's also reverse racism. We just grabbed the mic from Jacob. Yeah. Just pulled all the wires out. Scroll down a little more. I like this one, have money, because that's so true. Wait, what are there, I want another prize to that one. Nice.

Starting point is 01:12:03 It's a secret. Well, the website. You're expecting the website to work, which I think is dumb. It can be summarized into three. One, take care of yourself. Two, look slash feel confident. Three, have classy attitude, etiquette, wardrobe. Just have it.

Starting point is 01:12:17 Just be it and have it. That's the how. Have taste. How do I, uh... See, it's like... If you open Google Maps, you're like, hey, how do I get to the gallery? And it just said like, drive, car.

Starting point is 01:12:29 It's funny to me. Go west, young man. I am a little concerned about the comment that you liked. So true, my best friend married a billionaire. She puts so much time into doing her hair and she buys expensive bags and doesn't show too much skin. That's like parody, right? My mom taught me this,

Starting point is 01:12:41 but I cannot afford nails and clothing. Like 64 a bus? This sounds like a very young viewer replying. And it's like, are people going to be like, get a job or something like that? Yeah. Yeah, rise and grind, Stella. You can learn to do your own nails or something. So someone said, wait, look, someone said,

Starting point is 01:12:56 I feel like sometimes I feel like I'm living in 2023, and other times I feel like it's the 1950s with a bow on it. So I was saying with like the dress this specific way, and I was like, that's giving. This is nothing new. I am women have been yeah I am a pretty wife to a rich man. Yeah, that bottom one's depressing Girl, this is so real. I do this every day and you attract men of value and scare the low self-esteem away That's Yes, that makes me that bums me out

Starting point is 01:13:24 I either dress like Adam Sandler or a K-drama main character. No in-between and the difference in how people treat you is so real to those looks. That is true. The way people will treat you is unfortunately different. Billy Eilish dresses like Adam Sandler. Well, that's the same, like the point I was making earlier of like, yeah, people are gonna treat you differently

Starting point is 01:13:44 based on how you look, but if you like to dress a certain way and even if most people treat you bad because of that you don't want them around anyway. Do you want to bend your world in life around how certain people are gonna treat you? And you have to unfortunately in some cases like because people in power will pressure you to do that. Sure sure sure, sure. But the thing is, I am so happy in my life because I have incredible people. I'm just saying I have so many lovely people around me, like, who are close to me. Like who?

Starting point is 01:14:24 Like Jarvis. Jarvis moved further away. Who accept me for who I am, and even are like actually very kind to me and seem to like me to some extent. Not Jordan so much. He tries to force choke me all the time. No, no, no, no, no, no. I love Anastasia. I'm more about force lighting. not Jordan so much. He tries to force choke me all the time. I love Anastasia. I'm more about force lighting.

Starting point is 01:14:54 But I just say, I'm all of this is to say, if, if anyone out there is listening and they're like, I think I need to completely overhaul myself to get people to be friends with me or like me or whatever. That is not true. I've actually realized the opposite. The more true to myself that I am, the more I find very long-lasting, like heartwarming relationships.

Starting point is 01:15:23 The shitty part is that a lot of the time, because I remember getting the same advice at like a vulnerable age in your development where you're just like, oh, I just don't feel like I fit in, that kind of stuff. And I hate giving the advice of, be yourself, it gets better. I did it closer to like, all right, sustain yourself

Starting point is 01:15:44 as best you can. It is completely fine to like kind of contort the way you behave a little just to be comfortable in certain environments. If you're at the office or whatever, maybe you have to be different around your family, maybe you have to adjust a little bit for your own comfort. But that is that should be the coping mechanism that it is with the goal of, no, you put yourself in an environment and find an environment where you are very genuinely comfortable for real and you're not, uh, you don't go on a date. The guy gets your name wrong and you're like, Oh no,

Starting point is 01:16:17 I'm, I am Tatiana now. Okay. That's going to be my name. Understood. Yeah. No problem. Cause he'll come running back if you manifest it. He'll dive through your windscreen. If you're hot and you have the right clothes and the right nails, he'll learn your name. Whoa. That's, I have to think about that one. Wow. I don't like to talk to women. Thanks. Armistice.

Starting point is 01:16:39 Thank you. Anesthesia. Whoa. That's cool. Thank you. and Anesthesia whoa, that's cool. Thank you Well that's so Nice saying that you were pooping yeah, and think of the new and I fall asleep and sink Well this was a good. This is a good old time, and you know This is more of a framing to talk about some of these kind of

Starting point is 01:17:07 things but And maybe how this person's tick tocks are playing into some of those stereotypes, but not trying to hate on or Bring any harassment to this career. I'll be weird about it. Yeah. Yeah. We think she's, I mean, the thing is, is like the mission is as always very good, like comfortable, but then it, it's like, yeah, your value system, when you project that as like virtuous and the, like the right way, that as like virtuous and the right way. It's kind of sucks to like tell anyone

Starting point is 01:17:46 or convince anyone that they are a failure right now. Right. That's a tricky one. You're like, even if it's like, hey, it feels good to like, you know, work out, you'll feel more confident about yourself. It's not that, because right now you're bad. Like it's like, once you do it, you'll be correct.

Starting point is 01:18:05 It's just, no, whatever. If you work out and it feels terrible and you hate it, then I don't care. Do the thing that you like. Yeah. I mean, do what I say, everyone. I'm in charge, obviously. You don't have the force.

Starting point is 01:18:18 Yeah. That's a great note to end on. Like you don't have the force. The force is not with you, Jordan. Head on over to... You will head on over to patreon.com to see our boys. I'm manifesting it. We're manifesting that you can listen to our Patreon exclusive podcast, Sad Boys Nights.

Starting point is 01:18:35 We had a very real conversation over there. We had a very real conversation. Actually, yeah, we were going to do all this and we were a little moody. We went some places. We cheered ourselves up. So go go get a slice of that you freak podcast We end every episode of podcast with we end every episode of sad boys with a particular podcast Particular phrase we love you and we're sorry

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