Sad Boyz - The Problem with Lunchly

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

Go to https://zocdoc.com/SADBOYZ to find and instantly book a top-rated doctor today. Sad Boyz discuss Jarvis's trip to New York, and the drama surrounding Mr. Beast, Logan Paul, and KSI's new food product "LUNCHLY". New Sad Boyz MERCH! Check out our new FREE Magic The Gathering segment "Magic Moment" or watch 80+ bonus episodes of Nightz for only $5/mo at: https://patreon.com/sadboyz Join our Discord ▸ https://discord.gg/Hw82Dhun4m P.O. Box ▸ 3108 Glendale Blvd Suite 540, Los Angeles CA 90039 Play Sad Boyz BINGO ▸ https://sadboyzpod.com/bingo Write To Us ▸ [e-mail] Use the subject line "Pen Palz" and we could read it on the next episode! Our Links ▸ https://linktr.ee/sadboyzpod 🎶outro music🎶 @prod.typhoon & @ysoblank 00:00:00 Welcome To Sad Boyz! 00:03:04 You Might Be A Redneck If... 00:08:53 Jarvis Update 00:10:38 Sad Boyz Merch! 00:16:23 Zocdoc! 00:18:06 Jordan watched what?? 00:29:43 Airports are Stressful 00:47:12 Jarvis Introvert Moment 00:57:48 LUNCHLY 01:52:48 Sad Boyz Nightz This episode was recorded Sept 25, 2024 Produced & Edited by Jacob Skoda

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But anyway, thanks for being here, and enjoy. Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. New England, the four new england colonies of rhode island massachusetts connecticut and new hampshire relied on fishing farming shipbuilding and he's studying for his green card so i just it is not a criticism i just why don't you guys change the names after you guys rebel oh i don't want to be with england

anymore you know you had a big tantrum yeah we did with your with your enormous man who did fighting with a sword or whatever but a very bad boat by the way get a bigger boat bad boat bad bloke uh get a bigger boat but then you keep the same names on everything um new york was originally called new amsterdam what why'd they mix that when did you mix that up? Actually, let me check. Just like old New York was once New Amsterdam. Why'd they change it? I can't say. People just liked it better that way.

Sorry, that's a... We talked about They Might Be Giants last episode. Does anybody else smell toast? Thank you to Jacob for providing all three of us with literature jacob's a big reader yeah jacob uh just completely clocked us i got the pocket players guide to magic the gathering and this is from 1994 and i have already stopped myself from reading it

because i was like oh this is interesting um yeah we have to do the damn i. I am doing, I'm doing a, uh, we're doing, I'm actually live at magic con. Oh, that's right. And I have been learning as much as I possibly can about magic lore. So I don't look like a complete doofus on stage in front of like a bunch of people who came to magic con, you know? Cause I feel like if you come to,

if you go to Vegas to go to a big magic convention, you probably know more about magic than me. Well, it's all black belts. Yeah. And much like B.O.B. featuring Rivers Cuomo on his 2010 album, The Adventures of B.O.B., I got the magic in me.

Sorry. I was every gear spinning in my head. I'm like, okay, no, that wasn't with B.O.B. I was every gear spinning in my head. I'm like, okay, no, that wasn't with B.O.B. I was just thinking about how Rivers Cuomo has a strange lyrical history. And there's that one track about him having an Asian friend who he's clear that he's not dating. And then one of the lyrics is about the shape of her eyes. And that's pretty weird, isn't it?

Anastasia got a book about Jeff Foxworthy. And you might be a redneck, Jess. I didn't see the photo on the back. It's not a photo. It's a drawing. No, the photo of Jeff Foxworthy. Just in case you didn't know who wrote it. Oh, that's awesome.

Anastasia started reading us You Might Be a Redneck jokes. Oh, yeah. And we stopped her because we wanted yeah i do of course okay kidding me i want to figure out if i might be a redneck uh can you give us a on your truck and... Your truck says... No. No, your truck doesn't speak if you're a redneck. What would happen?

You may be a warlock if you're able to bring your truck to life. If you cast animate object on your truck, animate artifact... You might be a sorcerer. You might be your magic trick. Wow. What would happen? You slam the door on your car, and the wheels fall off, and the rims fall off.

That's pretty good. And the car stuff, like something happens to the car. Well, yeah. Okay. And it honks, and it drives away, and it starts. What might you have in the car if you're a redneck? A gun. Yes.

And your shotgun shoots out of your shotgun seat, because if you're a redneck, you have a shotgun under the seat, and it blows off the head of Ford Taurus. No, you slam the door on your truck, and your shotgun creates an instant sunroof. Okay, that's a little more about wear. It's too much, man. It's a hat on a hat.

It's a hat on a hat. You don't need instant sunroof. The shotgun was pointed up? Well, it's sitting up in the shotgun seat because it yelled shotgun before you guys got in the car. You might be a redneck if your wedding dress was... That made a hay. That's actually pretty good. It's like your tablecloth or something like that.

Or if your wedding dress was... Cow-eyed. This one's not funny in my opinion. Well, really, because before they were all so funny. I was cackling before, but this one is... A sunroof. I feel like what you guys are saying is more funny. This is just kind of normal, I think.

Yeah, it's from your great granny, and it's dusty. Oh, it's made of mothballs. And it's musty, and it's dusty, and it's musty. It's ashy. You might be a redneck if your wedding dress was a leopard skin print. Okay. That's more like a design thing. Yeah.

I guess my neighbor, some of my neighbors, their mom growing up, she wore a lot of leopard print. I guess she was a redneck. I guess was the case. Or a leopard. Anastasia just came back from Africa. Did you see any leopards? They got married? I think I saw a leopard. Anastasia just came back from Africa. Did you see any leopards? I think I saw a leopard.

It was in a bush. But it was a redneck. But it was a gal in a wedding dress. You might be a leopard if you get married. But it was a gal in a wedding dress. But it was actually a wedding. This is a hotly disputed

situation amongst our group. Half of us believe we saw a leopard, and the other half was like, no, we didn't. But because it was in a bush, and it was kind of camouflaged and hard to see. And we're like, that's what they do. That's what they do. We had binoculars.

I could see his nose. Honestly, don't judge them like that. Don't pay with a broad brush. That's a stereotype. When you say that's what they do. They. They. Really?

Those. Big cats. It's how they drive. That's what they do. Well, it's sort of in their DNA to be camouflage. Right. It's true. It's true.

You know, have you ever noticed how leopards be driving these days? They do. To their wedding. To a bush to hide in and bother Anastasia with it. But yeah, anyway, that's awesome. And I'm sorry that you have that now. No, are you kidding? I read it every day.

Can we do a few of these every episode? I'm a little bit obsessed. I really want to get locked in where I can guess where it's going. I mean, do I, though? I have to imagine that he just sat down every day for a week and wrote like 100 of them a day. You know what's funny? I immediately thought he hired 12 writers to write a bunch of them and he paid them like nickels.

Hang on. Can we open up Chad GPT? I feel like they weren't written by rednecks. That's for sure. Write me a you might be a redneck joke in the style of Jeff. Jeff Foxworthy. Oh, what? It just got about a line in. It wrote it literally. next joke in the style of Jeff Foxworthy. Oh. It got about a line in. It wrote, it literally

what the hell, it wrote the joke and then it deleted it and said this content may violate our usage policies. Oh, because it's like we don't want to steal the IP of Jeff Foxworthy. What is going on here? Wait, can we screen record?

Okay. Ooh, interesting. You might be a redneck. It literally starts also the location, and then it stops. What was it saying? You might be a redneck if your favorite home improvement store is also the location. What's the closest to that format of comedy right now oh wait google gemini okay google gemini didn't stop themselves they said you might be a redneck if your idea of a vacation is driving to the lake fishing and then

complaining about how the fish are biting what not really a joke not really a joke that's something you did that's something you did recently to a lake and it well you know we did okay i guess i might be a remit did you complain at all well no i was very gracious maybe that's why i'm so high class no unless that's what you definitely are because they don't really clarify what direction the parameters are, right? They're saying you might be a redneck in this scenario. But maybe where you didn't do it is when you're a redneck. So. How you doing?

I'm good. I'm always tired. But I'm good. Ify and my episode of Game Nights came out today. Dusk Mourn themed. We filmed it a while back. Ridiculous production value. Ridiculous production value.

And the team over there is like super duper talented. And the visual effects are wild and wacky. And just the producers and obviously like Josh andosh and jimmy are sweethearts and you know if he was there too and um three out of four sweethearts yeah uh no shout out if he um yeah i'm good i just got back from new york i was there for what was different a little youtube summit the water i had a lot of tap water let me tell you there's something in the water over there it's a little different for imps there's a little crustaceans tiny bagels and i did have i had so many bagels because i would get like a a big

and egg and cheese i got it big and she's like most days respect which i had i felt like i had to culturally different locales yeah mix it up a little bit but not too much because i was mostly in brooklyn because not only was this thing that i was at in brooklyn but uh russell stays in brooklyn uh russell who has been on sad boys nights uh you know my former friend probably my longest active friendship right now um it active friendship where we like talk a lot still um so i stay with russell and katie and they were sweethearts i told uh russell he can come back on the show whenever uh he comes here snickers and i became became great friends so you're olive so snickers and i uh this is this is kind of a this is kind of a record of our friendship.

So cute. I'm also wearing the Sad Boys merch that I'm also wearing right now. It's only going to be available for a few more weeks. I'm also wearing it. And the pants. Yeah, wearing the sweatpants right now. It's going to be available for a few more weeks. Well, it's taken.

There's also a, we'll let you know when the last the last ditch effort is but maybe we'll put a date probably in next week's episode so that you know but then we'll also send out an email blast if you're like on our patreon um or on our mailing list for the merch which is at sadboys.llc or sadboys.store should redirect you there eventually we're moving to sadboys.store should redirect you there. Eventually we're moving to sadboys.store. We had a bit of a mix up with our domains, but. As we always say, no grand obligation. No grand obligation. Discretionary entertainment spending. This is more like discretionary merchandise spending, I guess.

Looking incredible spending. Yeah, we are getting a lot of people who are, you know, enjoying the quality um i will note that there's also a patron exclusive color that's available on our patreon um but it does run dark and runs a little faded and uh it's blue and uh some people aren't sure if that was intentional so for anybody who wants a refund like you know you can reach out to support if that's not quite what you fancy if that's not quite what you fancy because we're not trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes but um there is a patron exclusive color available

on our patreon um and i think it's cool i don't have one yet it's like on the way here uh because we forgot to get it we we did get we got tests of everything and then i sort of forgot to get yeah thing yeah like aside from these sweatpants i think these are the official ones and i have yeah no no we have everything else and i've been uh basically got a million pairs of everything and i just won't stop wearing it i was like traveling with it i just love that it's um it's a good thing for me to wear and like relax relaxing i mean i am at a tricky point now where like so most of my it's very where that where the sweatpants are like long enough for my legs and these just happen to work then i have the t-shirt which is i always have available ready to go it's long enough for my torso and then it's a

lanky function funny prose to the things the t-shirt it fits my bot my weird body but then we made sure that the baseball cap was like the exact you know my favorite kind because there's just like a certain proportion that is the the one i like especially when my hair's starting to get a little too long but what i like and that's happening right now and i did go to the local coffee shop and i was wearing three pieces oh i might be a redneck anyway i went down to the local uh cafeteria my refectory break i was able to fetch upon myself and preclude precluding myself from any food i did in fact indulge in a caffeinated beverage what's your vocabulary getting better i think that's isn't that like the cowboy it's like verbose i like that are you like are you looking to solve any mysteries

anytime soon well i do i don't suppose you have upon yourself a question mark which I can perceive and recreate into a period. I may, I appear to be having a stroke. I'm from Stroud, Gloucestershire, in England, and yet I find my, oh, it's the hat. It's the hat. Where do you have the cowboy? This was at the event

I was at. We had like a roller skating night that was like Western themed. And yeah, like they had back in the old West. Yeah. Like they had back in the old West. They had roller rinks.

Get that cowpoke out of here. He skates away. Whoa. Trying to catch Jesse James. He's like whipping around the sand dunes. Um, yeah, we,

uh, and, and, oh my gosh, I have a a wild like kind of travel experience to speak about uh but i want to first hear how you're doing because you just went on a trip as well i just uh i hit the old and went down old detroit brought this sweater today realize it's not uh my sweater it's i was like did we pick this up while we were there? No, Katie's had this for like years.

You went to the 313? I went to the 313. It was the second time going to Michigan. Just a trip to see Katie's family. So you went to Mish again is what you're saying. I Mishaganned and I Mish for the last. Thanks. It was really nice.

It's not, it's I think maybe the first time i've been on a plane for leisure reasons and like yeah yes and it was it did deafen me the air pressure for whatever reason did completely knock out i mean we talked about it pretty sure right ear fluid blah blah blah we both had it but so uh apologies to the audience if at any point i appear to miss something or have to ask for clarification. Apologies to Jacob in the edit in case you have to cut out me going, I can't hear a word.

Inhilderly, I do declare I'm too old. I'm dying. It was really surreal because I felt at times just like very uncomfortable about how not on top of things i was just but i like you know i didn't have my laptop with me it was like little like not being ready for a visa related thing kudos to not bring your laptop yeah that was a it's important to unplug especially couldn't log into architect couldn't work on any of my things all the time you used to do it on mobile big mistake one thing i've noticed about life Jordan, is that fit is very important.

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I was. Okay. Well, two two two important highlights from the trip one on the way out me and katie we typically just uh we download a bunch of episodes or whatever if we're going somewhere one airport each right one i think very cool down to earth regular salt the earth type dude thing we went on a fishing trip went out into technically into ontario waters so apologies to that loud long me out i'm in trouble maybe check check oh no no, it's not. Had to get a day license, so and so.

It was really fun. We got some heat as we caught a couple bangers, catch and release. I am proud of that. Something I'm not as proud of. I have been fighting this my entire life. And there is nothing that frustrates me more than someone telling me to watch something you know what i mean well you have to watch this you have to believe right let alone the entire culture i was raised in telling me i had to do that right me refusing but i you're talking about

the video that they play on the planes yeah they say you have to watch this that's not where the door is him seat belt I'll watch it if you let me have a go driving the plane I'm now I'm the president here Delta I'm here to tell you that we do the blame we we make planes and they go in the air they go big big fly. They ain't going to fly off. No, these doors stay on. Now, go ahead and have a good time and be nice to our staff because here at Delta, we're family. I feel like I've lived through multiple generations of different Delta CEOs chiming in to be like,

we're a good old family business here at multi-billion dollar corporation. Okay, Neva, what did you have to watch? What did you watch? I got into Doctor Who. Oh. I got into Doctor Who.

We as a collective. Oh, it does feel very you and Katie coded together. I know. So we specifically got into the Capaldi season because i was always i liked oh because capaldi joined after it was after uh tenant oh matt smith no matt smith yeah the last i had watched was some tenant left the uk always i've always been a little resistant to

the show because it's my mom always hated it and I always kind of hated elements of it and then like the culture around it was very annoying and then it became very Tumblrcore and so I resisted. And part of it was, girls watch this. I don't watch stuff with girls. For boys, I watch big cool.

I watch something cool. Why doesn't he just say who he is? What do you mean, Doctor Who? Identify yourself. Doctor Why? Are you big or what? But I watched it. It is, there are are certainly there's little bits

of cringe don't get me wrong i found the matt smith stuff very off-putting i like matt smith as a performer nothing against him just the uh it was very um late epic win bacon and i i just couldn't i'm wearing uh i'm putting on a fez like just i couldn't handle it right the capaldi shit is so fucking good oh really we only watched the follow-up season because i don't know we were curious about a bunch of stuff in it and katie hadn't seen any of it i just genuinely i think really good it's not perfect and it gets a little i never enjoyed any of the when i had seen episodes in the past because you just can't escape it in the uk right it's like not we had to just read doctor who because the oh sorry read harry potter because like what's

happening i had seen maybe you know half of eccleston through tennant and i i've never been a fan of the uh forced what's the word uh lore element where it's like okay now we're doing a three-parter episode and it all links in together and it's nothing set up prior it's just all in the same little loop and i'm like i like these i what i respect so much about the great episodes of that show is that it's almost like a great sketch where they're taking an idea a really creative really weird idea and burning it and just saying, we're doing this in 40 minutes. We could make a series out of this. We can make a movie out of this.

Nope. Great premise. Bonk. Done. Gone. And then they start to reincorporate stuff. There's a huge arc of that season. That's about the side of the man.

I was like, I just don't care. Like the last three episodes of fine. But then that like Peter Capaldi, dude, it was really fun. And it did make me think because we've talked in the past about like music that we we kind of lied in school or whatever and like oh i don't like that kind of thing whatever i'm like what is this actually it may it may it's just been

on my mind a lot really is it's it's very easy and we've talked about it before to critique things like uh like masculine performance, right? Some of the more toxic element of gender performance. For some reason, until very recently, I never started interrogating authenticity or what I can consider authentic as a similar holding myself back from enjoying things like well like you know i've been in the u.s what it almost 10 years and i am still very self-conscious about like using certain terms or missing certain things or saying aluminum and there's these things stick in but no one is calling that out it's for a fictional version of a british person i bump into that's mean to me about it and i feel the exact same way about like wearing certain things presenting certain way uh even having like certain types of

like my hair length for whatever reason having having it can i touch your hair level that's like a rational i don't want people to do that but they don't do that anymore not here i felt so self-conscious about just watching doctor who on a plane despite having and we had a you know a good time watching it made the the flight fly by come on now now i i do i just i don't know like 9-1-1 how are you i just want to talk what are you doing uh but i don't know i kind of wanted to ask the rest of you about like, is there anything that you feel like still you're actively fighting against to,

to enjoy, or at least not judge others or push others on? Well, the first thing that came to mind was the show Silicon Valley because I, when that was airing at like, I was working in tech. And so like everybody was talking about it. Everybody was watching it.

And I was like, I don't want to go where, like go home from my job and then watch a show. That's like a parody of my job. Like I have no interest in it. Cause it's like not the type of parody. That's like, it's like a little bit too real actually,

you know, like, like uh and i watched the first episode of silicon valley recently um uh with a friend and like i don't know why i think they brought it up or it came up on um one of the streaming services and I was right to avoid it. It is exactly what I thought it was. And, uh, it is just a series of psychic damage jokes for Jarvis. Like every single joke in that show is just like something that I'm like, ah,

is it at least, uh, sort of objectively well-constructed like jokes. Yeah. And, you know, very talented, uh, you know, you know writers very talented actors it's just that the um the actual like construction of the show is like almost it's it feels like a doc it's like a it's more like if someone who works at a paper company watches The Office, they don't go like, ugh, Dunder Mifflin, it reminds me of my job. Because they barely ever talk about the fucking paper company, right?

Yeah, it's a framing device. about math and about nerds and about CEOs that are like doing things and about the like exorbitant spending of like the tech industry like opens on like a kid rock concert into somebody talking about like some new feature that they're launching and that's just these are just things that happen in real life it's not even a joke at that point because it is a parody it is a self-parody uh the tech industry is a self-parody uh i think literally self-parody of itself it's been the aesthetics off-putting for that exact reason it may be it's like uh it gave me this a smell of the office like not the show like our patreon office and not we you know we both liked working there oh yeah it is just like a uh you know that that office the final office

before we left the walking into that building just had a smell to it, had like a cleanliness more so than anything. And I would walk in and go like, Oh, I'm at work. Like now I've shifted. I'm not doing certain things now.

I'm swearing less. Like I'm at work. And there's just something like cosmetically about that show where I, cause I also didn't never watch it at the time. I would try watching it. I'm like, Oh, all right okay it's also i'm no longer relaxed because of uh how they consulted for that show like mike judge uh like did a lot of like walkthroughs and interviews with people and like one of those people was uh like like yelp and like uh jeremy stoppelman like the ceo of yelp and so not Stoppelman, like the CEO of Yelp. And so not only had like Mike Judge come

and talked to our company, like after doing that show, like while I was at Yelp and that is why it hits too close to home. There's also stories taken directly from my job. That's weird. In that show. Like there's apparently a storyline.

I don't actually know because I haven't watched the show, but I heard that there's a thing about someone changing the code base from tabs to spaces. And that was like a thing that actually happened at our work. And specifically, I know who did it, and I know all the drama. There was drama. Just like the hoops that everything was jumping through. specifically i like know who did it and i know all the drama and there was there was just like the hoops that everything was jumping through and like it there wasn't as much drama probably as if

there was drama in the show but just like things like that it's like it feels more like not entertainment yeah it's like i the the like psychic damage to like uh to to like sort of professional trauma i have like associated i'm imagining a world where I try watching a show like that and there's an entire season arc about rebranding the language on the website and redoing all the copy on a certain website we previously worked for that was, I don't know, eight months of my life. What's that movie, The Proposal?

Have I talked about this? Is that the Ryan Reynolds oneynolds ryan reynolds sandra bullock yeah she's uh he's being exploited for his visa yeah exactly so it's like that movie uh has so much stuff that like i was like we also watched that movie and i was like dude this is just the day of triggering actual real life experiences because there's like immigrant there's like so many scenes with immigration lawyers and i'm just like i don't need this right now dude i just i don't it just every time i've seen a clip from that movie i'm just like this is exactly the same as what you're like you're always doing this yeah you're always like you have to marry me right now right or the

other way around or whatever happens um okay so uh real quick i'll get into like my little travel story so i almost missed my flight out of new york uh and i was like early to the flight like it was still open but uh i think that i was like too late to check a bag. And I actually brought my big suitcase because I thought I might accumulate stuff. And I put my small suitcase inside of my big suitcase and just checked that. And so when I went back, I didn't end up with a whole suitcase full of stuff

it was like I had my small suitcase still inside of my big suitcase and I was just gonna check that again and then there was like a few things like clothes or whatever that was like around my small suitcase and so when I get there I first like try to do the expedited uh you actually pay because it's curbside like to to put your bags on the plane. And I knew I was like running slightly late for this. So I was like, oh, I'll pay. And then they, the person was just like, no, you can't. And I was like, sorry, what?

And then they were like, it's closed. And they just like weren't giving me enough information. And then I was like, okay. And then I just like went inside and I tried to go to the help desk, but instead I went to the information desk. So rookie mistake. I don't need information. I need help.

So I went to the information desk, and they go, yeah, no, it's closed, but maybe you can go to the help desk. I cannot help you. And then the help desk was down the you the help desk is like down the down the way over there and i'm like oh so they're different okay because all the bag drop and then they're you know like when i see like a big bag drop area and then a bunch of agents i assume that that's the help desk also more often than not it's just people standing around like no no we can't help you and in the moment i'm like i'm like

in a bit of a rush so i don't have time to think about it but i'm like what do you help with like because everybody's just sitting around and i'm like does this okay whatever and then i like keep keep going i go and i don't even want to name the airline or anything because i don't want to do that thing you know let's just call it like a hypothetical name yeah like delta airlines that's a reference to john belaney's joke don't worry it's not actually delta here at delta we um but anyway uh uh so then i go down to the help desk i like get in line and in getting i think one of the worst things about air travel is when you're in a rush and you have to get in a line it creates maybe some of the worst like human psychological like

responses to things ever like like the stanford prison experiment but everyone's the prisoner yeah and you have also just walked extra fast and you know when you stop and you start sweating and they're all watching like the uh a long rope uh a long fuse to a bomb like sort of like a like a cartoon like just like running and then they're like the fucking bomb is going to explode i need to get through this line i get to the um the front finally and there's by the way a few people who are in exactly my situation so i wonder there's like on the order of like three to four people in exactly my situation for the exact same flight so i wonder if they just like close it earlier than expected because we were all kind of in the same boat here and you ended up just

waiting around well we were sitting in this line to the help desk and so i finally get up to the help desk and i'm like hey here's the situation and then they're like yeah it's too late to the show it's too late to do it i was like sorry like yeah you're too late to check the bag it's like but the flight's delayed for five to ten minutes and i'm like the flight is delayed for 10-15 minutes yeah so if you don't check the bag so if i don't check the bag i can i can go and it's like yeah you can i don't know you can you don't check the bag. So if I don't check the bag, I can go? And it's like, yeah, you can. Maybe, I don't know. You can now check the bag. Okay, so what you're telling me is if I don't check a bag,

I can make it to my gate. And they're like, I suppose so. You know, I suppose. You suppose so. Okay. Well, that would be at the information desk because that's information. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I'm caught in a loop and I'm still in New York right now. And then, and all these people are just doing their job and it's fine, but it's the infrastructure that sucks. So I had two people and that's again, why I'm not like naming the airline because I just don't want it. There's no point. It's just, I just want to tell this like story that was stressful for me,

you know? And it's also like, I should have gotten there early or earlier, blah, blah, blah. And everything's fine. And I could have even called like the travel

agency helpline if i was really in like a a pinch but you know the situation where you're like i just want to figure out my i want to solve these problems myself i don't want to inconvenience anybody i just want to get my stuff done so uh the travel agency, because Google, like YouTube flew us out for this event. And so then, but I never want to be inconvenienced on anyone. So anyway, I probably would have rather paid out of pocket than like called someone. But anyway, and so I'm like, okay, so I don't check my bag. And I can probably make it because I was also like, I pre-checked. So I should be able to get through security pretty quick. I opened my big bag and i was like how can i stuff everything in this big

bag in the small bag in my backpack basically like stuffing it like uh without with no abandon and then i'm like what do i leave behind i'm like trying to make all these quick decisions because i'm like i hope nothing's important getting left behind. And so I'm just like stuffing things. And then I overfill the suitcase and I'm like, I don't know how to get this thing closed. So then I start sitting on my suitcase. I'm like, I'm like kind of bouncing. I'm bouncing on it. I'm sitting on, I'm sitting on my suitcase, reverse cowgirl, and it's starting to like bow out. So it's like a little like over full. And it's like a hard shell like suitcase thing. And eventually I like get it zipped. And then it's so funny. Like I had like one, I brought running shoes with me so that I could like do exercise running or whatever I needed to do or walking. And I put one shoe like in the suitcase

and then the second shoe wouldn't fit. So I took one shoe out and uh I put one shoe like in the suitcase and then the second shoe wouldn't fit so I took one shoe out and like I stuffed the shoe in my backpack so when I'm going through security there's just like one shoe like kind of like turned like just in the backpack so everything's like in the wrong place uh yeah it looks like an AI generated image yeah exactly identify one image in this thing uh so then I go uh so then i'm like got a mostly empty suitcase save for like some socks you know fallen soldiers uh some socks and some other things where i was just like whatever this underwear these socks who cares um and i was like so can i get rid of this suitcase she's like yeah if you put it next to the trash bins and just leave

it open it'll be fine and so i was like okay because you don't want to leave it closed because then it's like a security hazard and they're all the intercom and oh yeah all those things seems a lot very balmy so i like i like open to the suitcase and it's all open except for a few socks or whatever i think i there still could be like something's very important to my life that is still in that uh suitcase that i just left there medication some tnt and then i start like sprinting to the uh start sprinting to the gate um it's one of those mazes like the you know like how they do with the the lines for security where it snakes and i got in one and there's no exit way uh so i like got into one and because the signs were misleading and they were like oh pre-check you're gonna have

to like maze snake back out of this and go to the thing and i didn't want to like jump i didn't want to hurdle over one of them because i thought i might get in trouble and you know people are just weird at the airport so if you you know i just like – at anything, I didn't want to get held up by any other thing. So then I go back to running down the way to get to the TSA pre-check line, and I'm sweating like crazy. I already sweat a lot, but I was sweating like super intensely. And then as if it was a cartoon, I'm wearing my hat hat and my hat keeps flying off while I'm like running. And it keeps flying off and I'm like catching it. And then I'm just like kind of like juggling it in the air.

Your tie keeps curling up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is there toilet paper on the bottom of one shoe? And then I finally get to the TSA pre-check line. And it's like the longest TSA pre-check line I've ever seen. There's all these people in front of us. But then these two girls behind me were these two women behind me were um they were on the same flight and they were also like rushing and so

with them and with me uh people were like oh are you your flights boarding and we're like yeah and so they all let us skip so they let the three of us skip. Hell yeah. And so thank you to those, thank you to our compatriots. And sorry, that was my left hand. Thank you to our compatriots. That was your left hand. And I am left handed. And you tried to. So I, so then we're going through

and I'm just hoping that like nothing beeps. That's not, you know, cause I've been in that situation before. Like I missed a flight once because my air tag and my wallet fell out and it was in my pants and i didn't know it was in my pants and i kept tripping the thing and they kept having me go back through it and i was like stun locked trying to like that as at the yeah yeah yeah and uh and that fucking sucks yeah yeah and so uh easy to find you though yeah easy to find me and so then um we like get

through security and then we're just running and we're running and we're running and we're running and uh we finally like thankfully the two uh women were ahead of me and i was like running to the point of like i like needed to stop because i felt like i was gonna have a heart attack yeah because i was like just panting i was like running too hard i was gonna delay me more not missing my flight or dying on the floor yeah incident um so they i see one of them in front of me so i'm like as long as i can i felt like i was at a fighting game i'm like as long as you, this person is still like locking the interaction between the gate agent,

I can like get in behind them and they'll still like be able to let me in. Oh, frame perfect. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, as long as I'm within this window. So I like saw them and I eventually get up and then they just go, are you Jarvis? And I'm like, yes.

And they were like, we were calling you. And I was like, oh, I didn't notice. I love the smart house videos. I was ready. Anyway, this is the wrong gate. Oh you're playing you're playing left oh sorry uh and so i finally get i i finally get on the plane and i'm just like sweating bullets and i have exercise induced asthma so i start coughing and i know that it's not i know that it's not um uh like an illness or anything.

It's literally just like this horse coughing that's like coming from like my lungs. But the rest of them don't know. I'm sure people think, yeah. And then I'm also sweating and then they need to check my bag. And then the bag guy was missing. And then there's a woman. He's missing? Yeah, they were like, where did the bag guy go? Like one of the flight woman missing yeah they were like where did the bad guy

go like one of the flight attendants they stuck in there like there's no overhead bin space we need the bad guy and then thankfully he finally showed up at the last minute and um and then a woman behind me was like yeah like uh this airline always loses bags on flights to this airport i'm just like thinking about i'm like i wish i i'm already one bag down i'm like please don't why are you telling me this right now um hey do you know this airline's famous for crashing anyway take a seat anyway yeah this is the plane the famous plane the super crashy one with no door plug 50 50% crash rate. And Seinfeld talking about Boeing. What's going on? 50% crash rate.

Where's the door? Where? Sucks out. Gets sucked out of the plane. What's the door? They should make the whole door out of the black box. So, yeah, I did get on the plane. I was sitting in my seat

drenched in sweat and um oh that's so frustrating when you're sat down you're like we don't need to sweat anymore yeah bodies stop now i think i have a photo so that's like me at the gate before they tell me that the bad guy is missing because uh i'm in line now because that's like when everyone's boarding the plane and so we still got like i there were still people who hadn't boarded yet when i got there so i still had probably a few more minutes but obviously you don't take any chances they were still stand locked yeah you can see the sweat uh on this uh you know new sad boys merch available now a discretionary merchandise income um only you can see the hat available for another couple weeks

you said yeah okay this is the hat that kept falling off of my head your hair is it is fighting it's fighting for its life a non-fixable problem yeah that's fair oh okay so then oh yeah this is like the condensation on my glasses from my body heat i thought perhaps you heard no i took the glasses off and just had them hanging on my thing. And then they were fogged. You can't really see here, but they're like completely fogged up. Even the glasses are sweating. Yeah, even my glasses are sweating. And then the last photo is just like me sweating in my seat.

Like a Greek tragedy. Yeah, I'm upset looking here, but I'm actually happy that I made the flight because there were no more flights out that day to burbank which is where i was flying to if i there were flights to lax but i would have had to like buy a new flight in order to get on that what was that the brand name of the pet therapy thing we saw when we got to burbank last time there is a service in fact have we talked to either of you about this yeah i think we did i want maybe jacob i want you to guess what the function of this yeah uh wait i got it it's like a billboard or whatever when we were leaving burbank um waggage claim waggage claim do you want to guess the function of waggage claim at burbank airport um is it

i'll pick up your pet i'll even tell you so yeah i'll give you the context that we saw a billboard at the burbank airport that said waggage claim pet therapy waggage claim pet therapy what does that mean it is not picking up your pet is's for your pet's emotional baggage great second guess also no you'd think it the further from what makes sense they provide the pet for your your own therapy oh yeah you got it essentially yeah yeah they have an area where like apparently if you have if you if you have just if you have flight anxiety that is not not is severe not severe enough that you don't go to the airport to begin with and that you make it to your gate and go through all the things but then you're just scared to get on the plane maybe then there's like some pets that you can pet and then taking off is i mean again good luck i thought it was going to be

something about like traveling with your pets and making sure that they weren't anxious on the plane we uh we did we did just do that when we go to mish when we go to mish again we take foxy we got it we got her in the little backpack that's actually jake i'm gonna send you a photo uh she's being backpack dog it it opens up like you can expand it by like like 50 but she doesn't like that she wants to be and by the way the way she's sat right now is completely unnecessary she's using 20 of the bag it looks like we got two smaller bags so you'll know she'll let you know that she doesn't like something because this is the yappiest dog the yap chap brother yeah she's uh we've done a really good job lately of like she's yapless

with just the two of us now oh that's great and she is she's still learning she hadn't met a lot of people people before she is such a flirt she loves you and she loves keenan when well because what it's like if you cut if a guest comes over that she likes and they don't pay her attention in the way that you want 30 attention tax on income she will she will like like sort of walk around you and bark and jump up and down and it's like are you upset and they're but then you like pet her or pick her up and then she's like yeah that's what i want yeah this is what i'm all about she's like actually this was all i was i was i was crazy back there i was really going through it thank you for thanks for comforting me and giving me i just had

some stuff i was going through i've been in my backpack for a while thank you for yeah i hadn't scrunched myself up to 10 of my backpack yeah i haven't missed a fantastic myself into a book but yeah she's uh she has been better on the app chappingapping, but it is a 30% federal attention tax required on every visit. When I was in the Albuquerque airport, there were just... Is that one hell also? Like you said about, was it New Mexico? I like Albuquerque. New Mexico is great. I loved New Mexico, but they had this crew of older ladies who volunteered with their dogs just walking around the airport letting you pet their dog. That's really fun. So I got further confirmation this past week that I am introverted because during this event, a lot of creators were there And the goal was to socialize and also talk to YouTube.

Is this like an event people just know about? It's called YouTube Summit. It is like a very private event. And it's invite only. To the peak of a mountain. I went in 2019. And I haven't been invited back until this year. But it's been happening.

What did you do? I know. Well, just because a lot of the people are big YouTubers, and I'm kind of a hard sell, I think, because I'm on the smaller end of things. But compared to your Marques Brownlees of the world, who was there? There was a person who I've made a video about there that's right yeah and they did come up to me it's happened again it happened again and we will

be telling the story on our patreon episode sad boys nights jarvis uh we wish we approached by another subject of a video we wish we could say it publicly nights is actually just for kind of yeah it's the safety of it i don't want to put the person on public blast but i do think the story is funny um so that is available but it's not important and it's not going to come up in public like we're not going to mention it or call back to it other than the fact that it happened but for five bucks maybe i'll do it but if you sign up for five bucks maybe i will say it i don't know no i will i'll say it i'll say it uh on the nights um he'll say anything but again it's like well i mean that's all i'll say i don't want to i don't want let's just say the name and address necessary okay and that's

all i'll be saying um but uh the introvert did i like i like just truly the amount of times I needed to retreat to like a bathroom or like my room in the hotel to get away from people. There was a lunch that was like wedding seating. And I always thought I was like kind of an ambivert where it's like – Like a circular no no wedding seating in terms of uh you're assigned a number and then you go to that table right um and everyone I cannot stress enough how much everyone was nice and no one did anything wrong my discomfort and lack of like energy resulted in me uh leaving the lunch i i basically said i basically said uh because there was also like some employees there like some youtube people there and i was like

hey um also my partner manager uh listens to sad boys so this is a little uh there's a little story for her as well but uh i was i would like realize i was at my my limit i was like a little uh there's a little story for her as well but uh i was i like realized i was at my my limit i was like a little overstimulated and i basically just said hey i gotta deal with something upstairs i like i probably pointed at my phone i was like i gotta go deal with the thing my daughter and i just went to my i just went to my hotel room and i sat for three hours i have to go and and uh and during that time i got a text that was like there's puppies on the fourth floor and i couldn't even get out of my bed for puppies and that's when i knew oh that's when i knew i wanted to i wanted so badly to go see those puppies the motion in between is also exhausting like the from lying laying or sitting

to going to like knowing that at the end of your walk is more people and stuff in my oh that's the thing it's like you never know when you're gonna have to and i don't want to be the thing is everyone is so nice and some people i've met before and i've only seen like here and there so you're gonna have the oh how have you type conversations, which I want to fully show up for. You know what I mean? I want to fully be there. I don't want to be like, I'm super exhausted or anything like that, or be off-putting in any way. I feel like I solve that by not leaving until I'm ready for that. In my mind, I was like, we've got the Western roller rink event at 6.30. And I don't think I can leave until then. I'm emotionally prepping myself for that.

So even though it's puppies, I have to stay in bed. And it's so ridiculous. But I hope, I'm sure people get it because they've probably been in similar situations. Where it's like like there's no amount of anything that could like get me out of the yeah i mean it's like i just needed i just needed to recharge because i just knew i was going to be doing another leg of like five hours of socializing and not only do you want to have the the nicest time possible but you also want to serve the other people you're around socially right you? You don't want to be socially ungenerous.

And what I'll give myself credit for is that when I contributed, I like locked in, you know what I mean? I like did like, no one's going to go like, Oh, Jarvis didn't contribute. It was like, no, I was, I was there. I was active. I was making my, my presence known. Um, but then I also needed to sneak away and uh and i didn't even sneak away like like if the lunch had come out sooner uh because it was like

attached to the it was a restaurant attached to the hotel oh the food you hadn't done the food yet no so i skipped the meal i think i just got room service and paid like an exorbitant amount for like for room service for one shrimp and aorbitant amount for like, for room service. For one shrimp and a shrimp cocktail and half a diet. And we had like some vouchers for, for, for that, for the hotel restaurant.

But like, it was a situation where I had talked to everyone at the table. We'd had like lots of very fruitful and interesting conversations. I had run out of like knobs to turn. Like, like if, if I can give myself a job at a party or a place like then it keeps me there like if I can like uh if I can start helping Jacob with the hot dogs yeah then it gives me it gives me like an it allows me to extend my time where otherwise I would

be like I otherwise need to go in a corner. Yeah. And cause I just don't do well with nothing. And so then it was like, it was, it was almost like I was trying to run the marathon of like a, uh, a two hour lunch after having done, uh, a bunch of other like round, like round tables and talks and things like that. i realized in like an hour into the the marathon that i like my legs were giving out there's also an energy hadn't come out yet so i was like i don't even have the food to because if i can just be eating food that's an activity that i can like pretend like i'm normal and then a post food chat it has a different energy and and then i could even go oh i'm so stuffed i need to

go lay down look i gotta go drag on i'm so full of food there's also there is an energy deficit that just comes from not being at home the travel you've already traveled new place yeah hotel room and you're at like 40 strength anyway and i'll say like it's a you know it's a champagne problem this is a very privileged uh position to even be in to begin with um but you know i'm just acknowledging where i'm at with my own you know relationship with my own yeah and i mean the the sensation would exist either way there's no like life circumstances that take away the comfort level with i think the doing something part is interesting because it is also like a, it is in both of our cases,

it's self-consciousness overtaking reality to some extent. I know there's, you know, so we'll go home for something and be like, I'm such a fucking idiot. I'm so annoying. I want to hate it, whatever.

Either ultimately, no, it's not true or even get confirmation. If there's somebody you're close enough to like at that party and you ask them whatever but the other it i really do feel bad when i leave something and felt like i was not reciprocally giving to the other person other person or other people but then also that the time at that thing is compromised if all i'm doing is investing in because i'm not networking right like at a house party or something we know yeah it's like well if it's a small company i enjoy you know what i mean it's just like i have to be honest with myself

well you you host the majority of the kind of bigger parties we have and that feels like it and that gives me a schema i think it's like the uh it gives me like there's a bag of tasks and things that i can do if i'm hosting i'm always allowed to leave a conversation you have kpis yeah if i'm hosting i'm always allowed to be like just checking in you need anything i put myself to work i just like can check on everybody else if i'm ever reaching overstimulation in a conversation i could be like all right i gotta go run around you know like people and people get it oh they go oh no you're the host it's fine you know so it's like it it's a it's a environment where it's okay to do whatever i need to do yeah and it's always okay but there's just

like a there's there's no social expectation it's also okay in the context of um social dynamics so i think that that's why i enjoy um i enjoy hosting we're also fortunate to have like i feel like we've cultivated at least in closer friendships an understanding of that that might be like you know we each have our own little traits and little idiosyncrasies with that and the people we're close to know about that and even silently can acknowledge and understand it but then also a lot of the people we've cultivated friendships with are either similar or appreciative of those things and are like you know uh you know i have a handful of people who are a same day like uh like evan i'll text evan and just be like

hey you want to get coffee right now because we're both always late to everything and we'll figure it out and probably float in and neither of us have anything going on but it will only be like a two-hour hangout once a month to catch up and be right on each other right and then on the flip side of that is like uh i think anything magic the gathering oriented that's got like a couple days buffer because it's usually like a we gather we it is a gathering but then with you it's a it can just be a quicker thing for me it can be literacy is there also i'm like uh like if we're playing magic then i don't worry about anything because it's like that's the task yeah there is that framing device so uh now it's lunchly time

everybody's talking about the brand new lunch product from mr beast ksi and logan paul lunchly MrBeast, KSI, and Logan Paul, Lunchly. Many years ago, I somehow ended up on the Feastables mailing product list, PR list. And so they would send me stuff, and I had no problem with MrBeast or anything like that. But there's been a lot of crazy allegations that have come out recently, and also a lack of response to those allegations. You have a great sign. And then there and also a lack of response to those allegations. You have a great sign. And then there's also a lot of lawsuits. So I never was a close friend of Mr. Beast, but I was on this PR list. But I have no allegiances.

A couple weeks ago, Instagram made this feature that's quite annoying to me, and I think they've changed it already because probably people complained, where at the top of my conversations, my DMs, you could have sponsored messages from brands. And Prime sent me a message through one of those and said, hey, let us send you some Prime. And I was like, you know what? This would be kind of funny, because I'm just curious. And also, whenever a company like that wants to send me stuff, I'm like, you don't know what I do. Because I'm like, there's a risk here.

Yeah, this is not incentivized to be nice about this. I sent them my PO box, because I have it on a shortcut. And so that was all I sent. They were like, just send us your address. And so, not my address, but I sent my P.O. box. And so then they sent a big thing at Prime. And so we were like, oh, it would be fun to review the Prime. And then also I just watched this Legal Eagle video about all the lawsuits that prime is in

engulfed in and uh and then i also watched the coffee zilla video about how logan paul has uh is actively suing coffee zilla and i think that's pretty lame the most recent time that he's the most recent time that he's threatened it um and's right. And I think, you know, personally, I think that Logan Paul has had a lot of opportunities to redeem himself. And every single time we think that he's rehabilitated into a new version, a new level of ascendance. He zags. He zags back into kind of the same old, same old. Somehow making Jake more likable than him. I got maybe the most threatening DM I've ever received from a brand,

from Lunchly. And I don't know what Lunchly is because I just woke up, you know, and I hadn't seen the press release. So I get a dm from this brand and this happens all the time so i just like thought like lunchly like is is that like freshly is that it's a lunch.ly is what it feels like literally and it says jarvis mr beast handshake logan paul handshake ksi equals lunchly brought to you by the creators who leave no crumbs. Wow.

Lunchly, because they eat. They ate, actually, with this. Good idea, Hunty. Lunchly features prime hydration, Feastables, and unmatched flavor in every kit. Our friends at Feastables shared your address. For an exclusive taste. For an exclusive taste. For an exclusive taste. So that was why it sounded really threatening.

We shared your address for an exclusive taste of your house. Because I was like, oh, don't do that. Maybe ask. And don't even, you know, don't say that. Also, at first I was like, did they tweet out your address? Like what did share your, and then I realized what Lunchly was. Right, exactly. Our friends at Feastables shared your address for an exclusive taste.

Lunchly is on the way. We can't wait to see your taste tests. And so I figured we'd provide them with what they wanted. Maybe it won't be what they want. Who knows? Who's to say? Here's the thing. I am completely open-minded here.

I've seen the discourse, but I'm a free thinker. I'm independent. I am the thinker. You're unvaccinated. What? Anyway, so I think that we can give this an honest review. Everyone's talking about it, and I know everyone's thinking, what did Jarvis and Jordan think? What a sad boy's podcast.

Think about the new lunchables competitor that has entered the fray with no endorsement of them as a brand i don't really like any of the people involved in it but i am curious the first thing we notice is that these packages are very heavy because they have like a full prime bottle in them or not a full prime bottle like a half prime bottle and putting this in my kids backpack as they kind of wobble unstably because it's so big yeah it's crazy um because of how much this is going to knock around like it's very it's very like uh heavy on one side and so all of these boxes are like kind of warped on the side it says all your faves in one box well i just have to say this

is the lunchable element yeah it's like it's so light and this is just like what you bought like you could buy like literally just this packed just like this uh as a lunchable and that's who they're competing with so that's like notable to me i unconsciously keep saying lunchable because it is very explicitly just well that's why they called it something really different than lunchable um one of the letters is completely yeah yeah so uh yeah we got the crackers up first so so you get like this comes with uh seven loose crackers emphasis on loose by the way this compartment is enormous like this is gonna be smacking left and. Kids are not delicate with their backpacks. It's going to be dust.

Notably, it's real cheese instead of the cheese product. I remember Logan Paul talking on Twitter about that. It's not. Even that's the wrong side. The cheese is. Why? Okay, I have so many questions about the packaging, but I'm just going to start simple with a cracker

because these crackers, they just, you know. It's a cracker, yeah. It's like a Ritz, right? That's a Ritz-a-like. What do they call it, like a butter cracker or something like that? Yeah, I think. It's just a fucking cracker. I'm waiting for what the cell is other than it being.

It's healthier is what they say. So I just also, i know that launchables come with candy but i'm just thinking about the like these two things dominating the product by weight and then like there's also a few crackers in here as well it literally feels like it the product was led by like what if we got this enormous kind of mid drink and then we just got a bunch of chocolate oh and what else do we need? I don't know. This giant-ass box containing a 230-calorie meal is so wild to me. And even this is mostly empty space.

Yeah. Like, the inside of it thing, this could be half the size. What is this cavity for? This big hole here. It's really funny. It looks like it was made for something else. It looks like it was made for, like, ammo.

This thing's huge. All of this stuff, like like none of the stuff that they're doing is uh like out of the ordinary i do want to say that like they are just like putting a product in a market i that it already exists and the thing is that they're marketing it as like healthier than their competitor at least in their materials that they're filming and producing. But yeah, it says all your faves in one box, prime, caffeine free. They have to note that it's not the energy drink. Mr. Beast Feastivals plus epic ingredients. Epic ingredients like some wet.

I mean, that's the thing. It's like the this is not like it's just marketing right it's normal but it's just very funny to market it like that it's a i mean it's just an extension of the regular prime chair where it's like you've had this but look mr beast yep it's epic actually the most epic turkey i love it i would call it epic bacon but it's turkey it's more swag than that i I would even go so far as to say. Oh, turkey. The cheese is perfectly adhered together. As it should be.

I assume there's Elmer's glue in between each layer. Okay, now for the cheese. I'm trying them individually. Yep, and that's real cheese. And they're allowed to say that. I would assume, because they said it. I do think it's funny that they made such a big deal about the cheese product thing and then it says contains a bioengineered food ingredient

which is fine like i'm like these things just happen i'll tell you what mate the size of this box this is like 230 calories just give me to carry this much it'll weigh less I'll carry milk with me I guess this is literally just a box of I don't know cocoa puffs or whatever the big one I'm excited about is the pizza

because to this day I think Lunchables pizza is good and the other one the other one is nacho chips with queso blanco and salsa so now we've got the prime hydration drink. I've been drinking my coffee this morning,

so I'm a little parched, diuretic, so I'm losing water, losing moisture. Will Logan Paul help me? So this is like the famous prime color, right? Or prime flavor. This is ice pop. This is the one that looks like the ice cream thing. It's the most little kid coated one and so prime is this is this one bottle has five calories which it means must mean that they're using some sort of artificial sweetener right

sucralose is that do you want to try strawberry yeah they use sucralose. That would be incredible. It's not even that, huh? What the fuck? And I guess the electrolytes of choice. Yeah, potassium. They've got 400 milligrams of potassium in here. It's a very unappealing color blend. Okay. I like it.

All right. All right, here we go. Here's my first test of ice pop. It tastes like I'm drinking a refrigerated, melted-down ice pop. It's the only one I've ever had, and I hated it. I hated every sip that I had. It's extremely sweet, and I think that's accomplished with the sucralose, and it doesn't have the normal salty kind of flavor of an electrolyte drink that uses sodium.

But put a pin in that, because I think we'll come back to that later. Yeah, so... You want to try it? You've already tried it. That's what they were going for, right? Right. It was melted ice pop.

Yeah, which is not not something I want. But, you know, if I'm a kid, maybe that's more. It's just like not the type of thing that I would want. Wash it down with some strawberry banana. It's just cloying. Is that the word? You know what I mean? Or drinking really dark green coffee.

Right. And it just like, like web, web in your mouth. It coats your mouth. Let me And it just like, like web, web in your mouth. It coats your mouth. Let me wash it away with strawberry banana. I will also say they sent me this, this like aluminum bottle,

like reusable bottle that looks like a prime, a full size prime bottle. And this is actually sick. I will say this is nice. I do like getting bottles, just containers. I just love a container.

But funnily enough, I have a different electrolyte powder that I like to use that is not sponsoring us yet. And we would name you. So we would name you so much if you sponsored us. And I like this because it's the right amount of ounces to put water in and then put my favorite rehydration beverage in. Let me get one more sip of the ice pop okay that's not it's just like you know there's like a certain sweet activator where you're like not ready for it and it's just like a little sickly sweet yeah um anyway jacob's

pulled up something here on the monitor prime energy sports drink contains pfas and excessive caffeine class action lawsuits say okay okay so it appears that there's a number of class action lawsuits i don't know if these have resolved uh but i guess it's an allegation of forever chemicals in the plastics now these are ongoing things and i'm just it's guess it's an allegation of forever chemicals in the plastics now these are ongoing things and i'm just it's why it's unrelated obviously to what we're talking about it's just that this is the same company same brand uh purchasing with lunchly notably the this is prime hydration and the one with caffeine is uh is prime energy, which we can also try. It also does still exist. Ice pop flavor of that.

And as we say, this was April of this year. No resolution or really acknowledgement that I'm aware of. But, oh, this is ugly. That's a spooky one. That's just, this is the seasoned glowberry. But let me, hold on. This is way more palatable because energy drinks all taste like garbage

so for that look congrats so actually you're killing it you know what I mean though where it's like you drink an energy drink and you're like oh yeah there's some stuff in that

yeah it feels like doing ooh, yeah, there's some stuff in that. Yeah, it feels like doing a shot. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I was supposed to be going. Like, I don't enjoy tequila. But I'm working towards something. I do understand there could be market confusion between these because this one says energy drink right here and that one says hydration drink.

Almost imperceptible versus what is this? Impact font 10,000 for the logo. Yeah. More or less. But it's not that they obviously, you know, trying to hide the difference. I just tasted the blueberry.

And it reminds me of something from my childhood. I can't put my finger on it. Ghosts. But it tastes like. Cheese. Oh, nevermind. Sorry. Yeah. Ghosts, I guess. Yeah. Probably a ghoul. finger on it ghosts but it tastes like cheese oh never mind sorry oh you had ghosts i guess yeah probably a ghoul wait can you haunting me i mean this is i don't want you i guess this is like the amount of caffeine that's in like a monster or something but 200 milligrams of caffeine that's

like two cups of coffee right that's so because that's what i mean what's nice about that is it is to you know like a child's eyes almost completely indistinguishable. Oh, Prime's advertised 200 milligrams of caffeine is equivalent to half a dozen Coke cans or nearly two 12 ounce Red Bulls. Wait, that is actually remarkable. As we say, this is just something Jacob pulled up, unrelated obviously to the... Well, this is just like a USA today article that we found because we were just looking to learn more about prime the product that we're oh so curious about the suit continues to say that quote there is a proven safe dose of caffeine for children side effects of kids consuming caffeine could include rapid or irregular heartbeats headaches seizures shaking

upset stomach and adverse emotional effects on yeah i. Yeah, I didn't drink caffeine as a kid. I think the most concerning thing for me as an individual is that we talked about the charged lemonade from Panera Bread. Or Panera, they don't call it Panera Bread anymore, right? They don't have any bread. No more bread, they're out. And the thing that is confusing was was an issue there is that uh they're uh what was it called i said it before charged the charged lemonade uh was just in like a cup and it had like more caffeine than even prime and you could refill it

the issue here to me is that this is the exact form factor of a red bull but with twice the caffeine yeah and also i mean you can sure i guess you can make the claim that kids should know and the kid can buy it themselves there's you know hey it's this isn't marketing itself directly to children yeah i guess that's right but it's a little bit like if you put the paw patrol on a beer you know what i mean like kind of feels like it yeah i mean it's just like when uh the the people advertising its audience is quite young like i have yet to meet a you know i guess now with wwe there are like 30 year old logan paul fans but just to just to clarify because one of them is a can no one could make a mistake with no one could make a mistake one of them comes in children's

lunches and one of them is two red bulls that is such a good point okay well anyway um that's probably nothing just an unrelated thing or whatever that's probably nothing it's already the last lawsuit associated with you know yeah there's probably nothing. Just an unrelated thing or whatever. That's probably nothing. That's probably the last lawsuit associated with, you know. Yeah, there's probably not. Yeah, I mean, and anybody can file a lawsuit. You know, for any reason, maybe out of spite. So this is the pizza. Okay, first note is these little, these feel smaller,

but there could have been shrinkflation that has happened to Lunchables ones as well. Because of Biden? Yeah. Yeah, I'm sick of this guy. Oh, and this one comes with Cherry Freeze. Let me get a quick taste of a Cherry Freeze. They smell identical.

This one smells a little bit more like you dunk the ice pop in like lemons oh okay oh that's the same that is exactly the same that's all right i've just have you tried the glue yet no i'll just sniff it so that's not an energy one no no these are all remember these are bottles which means hydration i just sniffed my microphone yeah how's it smell i think i've had a little too much something somewhere okay wait full of plastic it reminds me of something from my gushers oh gushers wow it's wow it smells like gushers i think it smells logan appalling okay you gotta go like literal shit like that's one of the words no no no i will say this does smell like Gushers. I think it smells, Logan, appalling. Okay, you gotta go.

Not like literal shit, like that's one of the worst. No, no, no, no. I will say this does smell like Gushers, which is a candy that I love. And I always want my hydration drink to smell like a candy that I love. Yeah, like something that a kid would really enjoy. Yeah, Gushers. Smell it again. Do you get Gushers vibes?

That's totally what it is. You know, I'll throw out though of course this one no kid can be does this one have caffeine even? no no no bottle doesn't have caffeine me an adult no now he's now you're 30

and you just keep getting confused because you're so old and stupid let's just say I was born in 19 a child has a new brain and their brain would never make that kind of mistake okay yeah you're right so sorry the bottle equals hydration yes can equals power power i know this one again i forgot it's the form factor of and kids know about caffeine how it works like whether it's good they see it in a can and they go red bull definitely i'm not i shouldn't i just want to also add that the um youths that i know is that friend that's a baby my friend that's a baby

um they all brag about how much caffeine they drink right i that was definitely a thing yeah um okay so we've got the we've got the pizza I did use this is our this is our starter like pizza dough oh okay and then goes but it does it does

I'm gonna eat this raw because or not you don't cook it first of all but I'm gonna eat this straight just because I wanna I have a good taste memory

for the Lunchables pizza because maybe I've had it recently as an adult so it's pretty close if not the same thing. So that's good if you're like trying to compete and maybe in like two similar products with one that has better marketing.

I mean like Coke and Pepsi, you know? Wait, hold on. Is the Lunchly font almost exactly the same as the Lunchable font? Oh. Whoa. I mean, yeah, they're doing the drop shadow thing. It's slightly different, but there's lots of similarities. Well, the Lunchly font has followed the house style.

Oh, yeah, the letters like kerned above the other letters. Look at that. Yeah, it's like a drop. a drop yeah yeah it's like the same but I mean whatever you know it's it's an accident okay was pepperoni it you know passes the lunchable pepperoni test it's fine

I do want to point something out and this doesn't matter it's just funny and this is if we did the same thing the lunchables is probably be the case the cheese And this doesn't matter. It's just funny. And this is, if we did the same thing to Lunchables, this would probably be the case. The cheese is matted down like my hair when I sleep without a bonnet on, which is very funny.

Yeah, trying to pull that, like right here. Yeah, the base. You can't see how bad it is, but you can feel it when you touch the back of your head. And if I run water, like before the show, I jumped in in the shower a little bit ran a little bit of water through my hair and it just like comes back alive like a like a plant if we pour some water into the cheese are you gonna construct a pizza uh i'll let jordan construct the pizza i'm gonna i just i'm creative this pouch and this the the pizza sauce like i have again another good you know taste memory

but the issue with this pouch is i'm not sure where like the lunchables one has a little spout and it shows you where to tear i'm not sure where to tear here oh i think maybe here could you okay we'll we'll do a little test to see if a child at lunchtime could easily open it. The dexterity, a famous dexterity of a little kid. Oh, no, I'm scared. Wait, wait, am I an idiot? You want me to do it. Okay.

I'm just, like, not sure. We're grown-ups. Like, normally, shouldn't there be a pull tab somewhere? I'm, like, looking. There should be, like, a little, like, cut. Like, can we all inspect this? I feel like it's going to explode. Oh, Jordan bit it. He got it open.

This literally does feel like I'm doing surgery. Baby tried the turkey and cheese and said, if you gave me a Lunchable or this with my eyes closed, I couldn't tell the difference. Not sure if the cheese is different, but the turkey and cracker sure are the same.

Yeah. But Feastable Bar was a nice. Ooh, yeah. I will say the Feastables Bar, that's a, that's a product that's been through its iterations. I think the first, first run of Feastables wasn't my favorite. They changed the recipe. It's like better. Okay.

So what's the, what's the headline on that article? Oh, interesting. Uh uh wait real quick let me i have to wash my hands real quick did i miss did jacob pull something up just oh yeah no i was just gonna take a quick drink of the glowberry which is i guess tis the season oh spooky oh jacob uh yeah no this is i think jacob just opened a random tab it says logan paul's prime sports drink hit with lawsuit from bottler. That's this one. Refresco alleges Congo Brands, which sells the hydration beverage, backed out of its agreement to sell the drink. Wow, that's from August.

Okay, so that was last month. They did that on purpose or was it a mistake? I pray it's not true. There would be a real concern if this were. I guess it says. Refresco claims part of its agreement with Prime involved establishing a production line for plastic bottles at the bottler's facility in Tucson, Missouri for three years.

Right, and then Prime says that they repudiated the agreement and told the bottler it would be moving away from the facility. But my understanding is that when you sign a three-year contract, you can't just leave the contract partway through. But I'm not a lawyer, and I don't really understand. You know, I don't know what. I will say this hits. Like, for me, I'm with BB in terms of, like, it feels like they must have tested, like, the.

They must have tested these, like, double blind until they got it almost exact. Because the degree to which this is the same is really impressive. I'm not going to lie to you. Oh, this one's rough. The strawberry banana. I mean, I'm not a big artificial banana flavor guy. There's just one that doesn't work for me. It's like a cilantro banana.

Oh, I haven't tried that one yet. Honestly, if I were a kid, though, I would love this. Like, I had such a sweet tooth as a kid that I think I would have loved all of this. And the thing is, we don't know the... Stop drinking it, Jordan. I didn't try that one. We don't know, like, as a a society what's going to become of um artificial sweeteners but i don't like the cherry one at all like the yeah the research um i think

is generally like don't take the risk a lot of people are saying so i don't know if i would want my kid to have a drink that was just like predominantly artificial sweetener you know but you and from what i've heard also i don't know if this is true i'm not a doctor i'm not a scientist oh that sucks which one is that the banana it's rough you know the artificial taste you know those um gobstoppers you know like the banana and the gobstoppers like will you want the candy that has always been like postmarked in my brain as like the artificial banana and i i'm tasting it here but i don't want to taste it in a it's like a chemical yeah it's there's a chalky chemicalness to it that i really can't that's why i think you know what like a smoothie you know what this is maybe more palatable because i'm not doing the thing with my face.

Runts, that's what it was. Not gobstoppers. Runts. Oh, I recognize the little banana. We had a different brand, I guess. I know that little banana. I guess last but not least, we've got the, what was this called? This is called?

Nacho. Nacho cheese. Fiesta nachos. Fiesta nachos fiesta nachos in Spanish this was always my favorite lunchable oh really

I've never had this one even as a lunchable so I have to say I'm a huge fan of the tiny round tortilla chips I always grab like five of them

and then tip them in okay yeah the queso's not bad but taste that quote unquote salsa this is so AMC. Oh, yeah. It tastes exactly like AMC.

The salsa tastes like ketchup or tomato paste. The salsa feels like it has, it feels like someone took tomato paste and put taco seasoning in it. You know what I mean? It has the aftertaste. Have you tried this, Jacob? I'll hand jacob then maybe you should be the host you need to get your own show jacob we need your i need your taste test if this is your favorite it's really weird right i keep grabbing this drink um because it's in the drink and then i go oh i don't know if i want it it's like uh

it's like i feel like i get punished for drinking it just random thought by the way because obviously that you know i'm sure some people would push back again hate to harp on it they would say like well this is shaped like an energy drink nobody's gonna mix that up um with the charge limit that was an adult that didn't understand how much caffeine was in it and that slip up happened or whatever but and then you could say well the kid can't buy the energy drink themselves to my understanding the kid probably isn't doing the grocery shopping. Probably an adult that can buy anything and probably got a request to buy Prime. And then they see that it's in a luncheek package.

They're like, it's fine to get it. I'll get the canned one. So kids can think for themselves. They're going to ask for these things. Yeah. Because their favorite guys said it. But it's not marketed towards children. So there's no reason that they would want to get the exact same coloring and branding of the other

one right they probably think it was a they definitely wouldn't just think it's an aesthetic difference jacob what's the review right um it's unfortunately flavorless it's the interesting thing too is in their promo video they brag about how their salsa isn't as runny as lunchables but i'm like i don't know if i want gelatinous like thick salsa that runny is like a famous element of tomatoes and this tastes like tomato paste it does it mean tomato puree it tastes like it yeah roasted bell pepper is that any again if i was more cynical i would say that this product is essentially a ghillie suit camouflage for getting kids uh even more invested in prime as a brand but i'm not so yeah but um wait what

what is the calorie count on the is that 360 yeah it's exactly the same number of calories i mean like everything's calculated right like it's a very it's a it's a chris kyle-esque you know sharp shot a hero yeah i mean there's not much to really say about the product it like costs roughly as much as its competitor uh as long as the like we're including the version with the drink and then uh it tastes like again if you like close your eyes it tastes pretty similar even the pizza which is like such a unique like most people don't like the like adults don't really like the pizza who didn't have the memory for it i i i that was like the creme de la creme of like a nice snack. I would like beg for that.

And, um, and it tastes more or less like I expected to. Uh, so yeah, I mean, I think that the issue is that is in the marketing. Um,

maybe the insidiousness. Also, I, you know, again, I have no horse in this race. The Feastable bars are good. I mean, it's a clutch.

The Clutch ones are ice. Yeah, I mean, it's good. Yeah, we've tried Feastables in the past because they obviously had Jarvis's address and gave it to them lunchly. But yeah, they were good. I can't have a strong opinion about the product itself. I think the product itself is a very conservative and near carbon copy of

Lunchables. And it's, I mean, it's partly, and Lunchables are not a replacement for your lunch. I think it's, the mission obviously is partially to like be a competitor in a market that could,

could use one and that they'll make money off of that. But also kind of in the same vein that mr beast's videos primarily function these days as a conduit to promote and grow the brand of brand that's where the actual revenue comes from this feels like a a tactful move to further cement uh prime's primary Feastables' primary audience of children. If Feastables, of course, you know, had a version of this milk chocolate that was, I guess it's just a theory, that was, you know, maybe mildly full of carcinogens

or like potentially kind of has plastic leaking into it. Yeah, I mean, we got to look into this. You know, or maybe had a bunch of caffeine inside the chocolate for some reason. Then I would probably have an objection to it. Yeah, I mean, it's just like, does the Mr. Beast milk crunch bar compare to a crunch bar?

I would actually say yes. A lot of these things are made with the same sourcing of ingredients at similar factories like it's you know if you get if if you get like one from trader joe's or something it like feels the same way where obviously they didn't i don't think they white labeled this i think they like like worked on it i they probably put work into it. It's very clearly a money-making thing. It's very much like there is an opening in the market. We have a big influence in the market that Lunchables is. It feels very calculated. And why wouldn't it be? I think these are people who've become very,

very rich and successful off of being very calculated and being very strategic at the expense of, you know, other values that one may that one may hold. There's also another lawsuit about there's another manufacturer lawsuit. Now, yet a third company claims that Prime can't pay its bills. Agrovana is a Massachusetts based importer, which says it has provided over 7070 million, surprisingly close to $67 million, worth of ingredients to Prime since 2020. Exceptionally reliable, very resourceful when it comes to citation, and I'd say a pretty trustworthy source. He has a video called Everyone is Suing Logan Paul, which, I mean. That's crazy. A lot of people are, but it's probably for no reason at all, I would imagine.

Yeah, it seems like they're jealous. Anyway, we'll link that. But food was good. Yeah, you know, the food was pretty good. The drinks just truly taste like person doo doo-doo but um you know in case you want to be me you want to be sort of like allow logan paul um notorious good bloke to you know a gradual and sinister way a road at your children's awareness of how health and access to caffeine should work it's you know it's a pretty good way to intro drug if you will yeah that's jordan's opinion i um i kind of think that these prime drinks are so sweet that

they would mask alcohol really well and you could make a you could make a mean cocktail and it mean in that it would probably smell like gushers yeah and you'll probably have to sue them yeah give you like a very strong very strong flavor okay well well i will say you know to logan paul's benefit at least he's not you know at least he's not personally suing yeah well because that would be you know kind of just seems like a lot of lawsuits especially not someone like coffeezilla who another extremely reputable source yeah he's like just out of you know like he's talked about these things and kind of has a lot of journalistic integrity to him and logan paul himself has gone out to praise coffeezilla's

work only to later threaten the lawsuit renege it and then apologize separately on a different apologize separately and then sue him again right because it's which almost again were more cynical i would say warrant some questioning of logan paul's integrity um both professionally and and personally as does kind of the last history of 10 years of him doing pretty egregious shit and not i mean i like his flips dude he's so epic moonsault am i right he's really good at flips yeah bad bloke uh you're i don't your words not mine we'll link uh coffeezilla's video about the logan paul situation in his um he's fundraising because he doesn't have the financial resources that logan paul does to carry this uh carry this

lawsuit to trial so defend himself against the frivolous lawsuit yeah shout out to coffeezilla for the work that he does i always get know shout out yeah shout out to kavi zola for the work that he does i always get sucked into his content shout out to legal eagle um for just putting some stuff together i don't know i'm just learning a lot here i'm just trying to eat my like i'm just trying to eat the pizza yeah i'm trying to that's what it's called have a little snack and all of a sudden i just keep accidentally coming across these articles about the actions of prime and logan paul by extension that i you know i would have questions with but i just want to snack on my fiesta tacos i'm just trying to eat my wet salsa no crumbs i want to leave no crumbs and look at all the crumbs i personally think that

lunchly is busing and um lunchable and i'm on the battle bus lunchable is goofier yeah you know what i mean goofier yeah um okay wait so everyone's responded to the criticism uh about about lunchly oh dan tdm og og youtuber dan tdm um who basically responded to this dick ceratopos about like the whole lunchly thing right and he said what happened to youtubers like i can't not say anything anymore um and basically criticizing about them marketing a product towards kids who are easily susceptible towards like this kind of like marketing and it's very clearly like geared towards them like this is a product for kids well i don't know if you know okay yeah yeah and then logan well logan paul's known for his like measured and considered replies to things like that uh thread

about when he didn't understand the movie nope yeah and he was annoyed by that yeah and that time he pan he posted the most manic looking serial killer style note about how he'd figured out the universe i'll tell you what happened to YouTubers. We spent our lives creating content and building our brands. Now we want to build... Yeah, put the... Now we want to build businesses. You don't say anything when Lunchables faces bans for allegedly containing lead. Jesus.

But when we create a better version, you're upset? Then don't eat it. I don't think you're upset? Then don't eat it. I don't think you're in danger of dead eating. Should he be bringing up lead? Oh, no. The ice pop prime hydration found in the turkey stackums also has a report of lead contamination. No, not our ice pop prime.

We just drank that. We just drank that. Jesus Christ. No. So you're saying even if it's not the energy drink version, it might still pose, you know, maybe not great health effects on children. Okay, well, that's just not what's going on.

And then I do think that, you know, you've won the argument when it says accounts at Logan Paul follows or mentioned can reply. That's worse than just nothing. Just let people clown on you. That's so much more embarrassing. Can you go to his feed? Because I think he then later said something about,

he said something to Elon Musk and he was like, hey, everybody, oh wait, always a pleasure to expose the lies of at community notes. By the way, they remove that note because it's a lie or wait no it got marked as needing more votes because it's not true and although it's gone it's not removed and then he added elon musk he's gotta you know ask a complaint of a richer uh richer man it's not gone though right um and then now it's back yeah yeah okay because i got the vote um and then as of the publishing of the community note on the aforementioned tweet has been reinstated. Oh, rat.

Yeah. Now are there open replies on this one by any chance? Oh, and then they say, yeah, another lie. So Logan Paul says another lie from community notes. And then that got community noted and said, this isn't a lie from community notes. The commercially available 12 ounce ice pop prime has 500 milligrams of potassium on its nutrition label.

The 500 milliliter bottles are 700 milligrams of potassium on this nutrition label the 500 milliliter bottles are 700 milligrams of potassium and uh yeah that's it helps him out because i mean why would he know it's not you know his responsibility right right interesting okay so what other responses do we have mr beast responded oh so he's he does respond to criticism interesting right he responded to the criticism that affects the product that he's selling. Yeah, just coincidentally. Lunchable sells hundreds of millions of units and countless people eat it. Which is true and clearly that's transparently why they want to get in the market.

It seems like a big addressable market. Our goal is to give people a better for you alternative to it. Okay. Our turkey meal, for example, is 80 less turkey meal for example is 80 less calories okay but 80 less calorie less calories doesn't like mean good like you need calories you need calories to live especially as a kid when your your metabolism is fine you could like process you can also that's like may as well say less product right well that's like if you eat a whole peanut butter and jelly sandwich that's going to be more calories than you if you eat half yes right

so that's what they're doing so half of a peanut butter jelly sandwich is then more healthy i think yeah that's better in fact if you just have like a couple of the like little bits of cheese like a little bit of peanut butter to fall out of it that counts as i think like a good meal um so obviously eating fresh chicken and broccoli is healthier, but if someone is going to eat pre-made meal, which millions of people do through Lunchables, then I think giving them a higher quality version at roughly the same price isn't that good.

That's why they launched it. Like, again, we didn't say the product itself was bad. I think it's the issue that people are taking is with the marketing of it, because it's very clearly a... I think it's... You can't hide behind the noble... Like a noble cause

with something like this. I saw a reference the other day. I forget what it was specifically referring to, but every single generation, basically, since corporate advertising and corporate advertising language became codified in the around the 50s basically prior to that it was much more like cultural jingoism is where you saw a lot of pr

style speak but then you know mad men era comes around and then that's where it starts saying things like why would you smoke a cigarette the cigarette is bussing actually and there's like every single generation since then has finds pr speak less palatable every single generation and it is so bizarre to me half of my back in the patreon days half my job was literally just explaining to people like internally and associated with us like don't talk like this to people. It is off-putting. It's intuitively off-putting and you're off-put when people do it to you, but everyone has to talk and phrase and paragraph break responses like this. Like it's some kind of like religious practice. Like you can't take the law's name in vain. You can't write a response with less than 500 words it's it is so transparently unsettling

there there is no one you need to convince that you're doing this altruistically doesn't benefit you no one is like oh wow it's honorable for like having merch what's interesting is that like it's not like youtubers can't have businesses like we sell merchandise right we have a subscription to our patreon uh and you know like dan tdm who like this this tweet went viral you know he has a youtube i had a youtube you know what i mean i don't think it's like i think what the issue is is the transparency because no one's saying like people you know it's like ludwig uh like started working on financing games and stuff like that and uh tons of youtubers like have created other other businesses that are fine like zach from the try guys has a tea company and no matter how motivated it is by

like genuine interest or passion or at least some wanting to invest in workers it is embarrassing to try and frame it as like heroic i'm doing it because i just want to help i'm like oh what is this really i do more of the curing blindness if that's your only interest i mean i think i have a priority that jumps above i mean i i guess i just can't you know i don't have the again don't have the issue with like making money or doing a business thing i wish you had the insincerity the insincerity yeah it's like it's just like not uh it just feels like you can like see through it um what did dr mike say i wanted to go further and do the comparisons myself using the nutrition facts

from the Lunchables and Lunchly websites. And it's honestly really hard to draw perfectly clear conclusions for several reasons. One, I don't have nutrition facts for each part of the kits. For example, how many calories come from Feastables versus the food component? Second, some of the portion sizes aren't the same. The turkey cracker kit from

Lunchables is 82 grams, while Lunchly's is 72 grams. Three, there are so many varieties of Lunchables that just swapping out the flavor of Capri Sun caused significant differences in sugar and calorie content. At least these things are just the right size meal for kids. I think that that's something we can all agree on. I'm sorry, Dr. Mike has something to say. Oh no, wait. Well, let's look at the recently passed nutrition standards set forth by the USDA for school lunches

and see how Lunchly compares. Going line by line here. Less than 10% of calories should come from saturated fat. Lunchly turkey, 23% of calories come from saturated fat. Less than 10% of calories calories come from saturated fat less than 10 of calories should come from added sugars lunchly turkey 10.4 comes from added sugars um mr mike it says must be implemented by july 1st 2027 they're working on it okay they have a few years they're gonna take even more food they're gonna take more food out they're gonna take 23 of the food out

it's just one crack yeah and they go dude our product is incredible it has less fat less calories usda caloric guidelines say that a lunch meal for kids k through eight should contain around 625 calories calories are like such a view to such a bad thing that it probably is a societal blind spot in the criticism of this because people just go, oh, it has less calories than Lunchable. So that must mean healthier. Well, no one ever advertises high calorie. Which is so idiotic. Unless you're a bodybuilder. The existence of low-cal implies the badness of cal.

Like, we as a society have, we've really failed, I think, in a lot of ways. We've messed everything up. Teensy, teensy, weensy bit of it, I do think, is like a class bubble thing. In the same way that a lot of people are just like, well, if you don't want your kids to be unhealthy, then why don't you just cook every night? It's is it working 10 hours a day minimum right two different including the commute yeah like it's just it's just like it can be more expensive to cook at home exactly like a and burgers in the exact same vein this is just like oh well why don't they shouldn't they be

aware of what kids i have not read this. I don't even have any children. And I am somewhat aware of macronutrients, like macros, right? Yeah. I didn't learn anything about nutrition. I literally didn't know what protein, as in like what protein is in. Until I was 21. Yeah. And because I moved to the US where people actually a little bit more verbal about it.

I never heard of reference. We don't, especially like in a meal, would never say oh this sausage is a protein like protein is like a chemical in the brain right right right and i i just it is i think uh a little bit of like everyone knows the rules of food and i'm like it's like everyone knows the rules of finance i mean yeah we really we really fumbled this a lot of times obviously we're not experts and we're uh commentating our non-expert opinion which is a couple doctors we are attempting to to like lean on the opinions of if not experts uh people who are far more qualified to speak on this uh who are also citing you know um who are citing things kids need energy to function and

calories give them that energy. Lunchly turkey contains only 230 calories, which would mean a kid would need to eat about 2.7 portions to consume enough calories. That kid would collapse carrying that much weight around in the backpack. I think he also does a thing there. Yeah, I'll let it play out. And if they did that, they'd get nearly 1,300 milligrams of sodium, which is also significantly over the USDA standards. So they'd be either under eating calories or overeating sodium. Can I get one of these without a drink?

I don't know if yet you can. But what I heard is that sodium is electrolytes actually. And that means that it has 1300 times the amount of electrolytes is the fucking losers at lunchables it's like we always know that we know electrolytes across the board are good yeah you just need as many as possible my kid because you are uh you are uh static shock and you need your electrolytes. Dude, I'm sick to death of my kid being so weak. Creatine in his smoothie every single morning.

I'm bulking this young man up. It's cutting season, so no carbs. He's very tired. Can you imagine telling your kid it's cutting season? And he's just a shredded, miserable girl. Have you seen those little kids who are bodybuilders? I've seen them and I don't want to see them again. Okay, let's move on.

Because I'm jealous. One more thing that I wanted to look at is there's this guy who's a sports scientist that I watch to learn about NBA player injuries, but he did a video about this as well. And I'm curious his take. Can you look up Brian Sutterer? I made this little joke about sodium getting rebranded as electrolytes because that's really what's happened. We've taken things like sodium potassium that historically have been thought of in a very respectable fashion. Let's say I'm a billionaire.

Okay. I'm just a multimillionaire. Let's just say. Okay. I'm probably busy on my yacht. What I do not do, sure, I'll do my marketing-related posts. Probably not even me, probably an intern.

What I am is emotionally secure as a result of going through a lot of experiences professionally, making several apologies, certainly not doing frivolous lawsuits peddly against people who have made extremely valid criticisms of me. You're losing me but the last thing i would do is get caught up in a beef and just constantly quote tweet people uh with like the same energy as someone removing you from their myspace best friends list logan

seemed to take offense to my tweet here calling me a sports medicine doctor uh saying that i can't tell the difference between sodium and potassium logan, saying that I can't tell the difference between sodium and potassium. Logan, I assure you, I can. I understand the basics of hydration here and we're gonna talk about it and dive into this. Can you believe that Logan Paul has the gall? He even read that this guy was a sports medicine doctor

and then put it in quotes. Which I don't, it doesn't mean anything. And then said, you idiot. The guy's, the guy, like, I get that it's Twitter, but like, if the guy's name

on Twitter says MD, I'm going to double check that he, you know, like, oh, maybe he might be a doctor. It was fucking,

this is the whole thing where it's like, don't trust the experts. It's all fake news. Do your own research. And it's like, no, doing your own research

doesn't mean like reading a conspiracy theory on like a fake website. He did his own research. Yeah. Also, I just love that someone who is a doctor is saying a very smart, witty thing. Right. It's funny, but it's also very smart. It's like, yeah, this is crazy how sodium got rebranded right right right and then logan paul responds in like the most childish way possible

yeah uh you don't know what potassium is you idiot you idiot it's also very cringe how he always capitalizes prime it's like it's like if you poured fucking a gas, if you poured like an entire canister of Morton salt into an energy drink, you could still put on the label that it's electrolytes. And then Mr. Beast, this was something that he posted on his account. And this is really the highlight, the crux of this. More electrolytes, Lunchables, yes.

Hundreds of millions of units, their product, 80 less calories, 60% less sugar, more electrolytes. Generally speaking, our bodies do a very, very good job of managing the proper balance of electrolytes. We shouldn't have to rely on external supplementation of electrolytes beyond our food for just normal daily healthy function. I'm just getting sucked into this video and I'm going to watch it my own time. It's just a good video. Yeah. I like this guy's videos a lot. They're very interesting. If you end up watching, not for the faint of heart, if you don't like watching videos about injuries, but quite literally he will open up a 3D model and start talking about the, do doctors have to do so much memorization?

He's like talking about all the Latin terms for like all the fucking ligaments and in a leg and it's crazy i feel like you could get through medical school a lot quicker if i was allowed to call it hurt leg yeah i didn't have all like a back of knee bit yeah you used to just get to be a doctor you just gotta say i'll help if you knew what a shin was and then you were like hmm let's uh what if we just drained some blood out of your body? Is that going to help? Me, um, what this thing, me, this hurts. Oh, okay. Me, um, you know.

No, don't high five. Can I help it? Is it better now? No. It heals naturally. I did it. It hurts a lot more right now. No, but it'll be healed soon.

Oh, thank you, sir. Just drink this drink. Drink this prime. We obviously just just we're going to link the video um but the gist of one of the major points he's making which is something that i have heard before and it's a lot of the criticism of prime i've maybe even mentioned it the purpose of these drinks is to replace what is lost by excessive sweating and primarily the thing that you lose when you're sweating excessively is

sodium. And that's why up to this point, most of these rehydration drinks use sodium as the electrolyte dominated by the drink because it's the dominant electrolyte that you lose in sweat prime and this is like more of a theory and kind of like how people are what people are positing it appears that it is possible just covering myself covering my basis here it appears that it's possible that prime is simply putting a ton of potassium in these drinks so that they can say that they have more electrolytes technically without being well while only having 10 percent of uh while only having 10 milligrams of sodium this one has 30 milligrams uh of sodium but um it's kind of operating on this but it has 700 milligrams of potassium it's kind of the same rule set as uh you know just taking stuff out where like it's actually less calories yeah or

like fat free but you're putting all this other gunk in there yeah yeah that's like unnatural this lacroix is fat free okay i guess all right well uh again we're not experts. We're just sharing some stuff that we found interesting. Just a couple of lawyers. Well, and we also did – what we are an expert is what we like. And we tasted Lunchly, and it tastes exactly like a Lunchable. So congrats on that, I think. And then we tasted Prime, and uh-oh. Don't like it.

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