Sad Boyz - The Search For Danny Gonzalez (w/ Danny Gonzalez)

Episode Date: August 31, 2020

Danny Gonzalez is rolling in the deep and it's up to Jarvis and Jordan to rescue him and return him to the shallow. Is Danny doomed? Probably not because we do find him pretty quickly, so in celebration we recorded a podcast also.   Follow Danny https://www.youtube.com/user/ActualDannyGonzalez   Watch Us https://twitch.tv/sadboyzpod https://youtube.com/sadboyzpod   Follow Us https://instagram.com/sadboyz https://twitter.com/sadboyz   Follow Jordan https://twitter.com/jordanadika https://instagram.com/jordanadika   Follow Jarvis https://twitter.com/jarvis https://instagram.com/jarvis   Outro music @prod.typhoon & @ysoblank

okay guys um so this is awkward but danny was supposed to come on the show today but we can't find him guys we've heard rumors that he has been jailed for i mean it's only been phrased as the incident so i don't want to get into details on that i mean yeah hello we haven't been able to identify him he said something about like reviewing his legal options about some. So I wonder if he's in trouble. Yes. Running out of legal options. What?

Guys, I can hear you, but I can't see anything. I don't know where I am. I'm just like, I can't see anything, but I can hear you. Can you hear? Can you hear anything, Jordan? I can hear somebody that's in legal trouble. Someone who is slapped by legal potentially. Yeah. I was going to say I can hear. Wait, I think that's in legal trouble someone who is slapped by legal potentially yeah i was gonna say i can hear wait i think that's him from the beyond hello oh my god danny i think i died

daniel what happened you died yeah you said oh never mind i'm here no you're not here yet oh no yeah he's literally right there you're not here yet oh never mind you're still gone i can't see anything still okay well shoot It's dark where you are Yeah, I just clicked on the Skype link and then like I like I'd now I can't I'm just like nowhere I can't see anything Hmm. You're in the in the deep. Yeah, you're rolling in the deep. I'm rolling in the deep We review your content we decide whether or not we care enough and then we place you in the deep if not Hey, look, it's Danny. Well, we found it. Oh my god. Can you believe it? Whoa?

Geez, he was rolling in the deep if not. Hey, look, it's Danny. Whoa, we found him. Oh my God, can you believe it? Whoa. Jeez. He was rolling in the deep, but now he's here. Yeah. That was convenient. Now I'm chilling in the shallow. That works, surprisingly. There's a song for that as well.

That hits different. Yeah, I know, right? We're rolling in the deep, and now we're in the shallow. In the shell. Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. And I'm Jordan with a huge unstoppable media empire of over 50 followers on Instagram. Today we are joined by a very special guest we just uh discovered him from the deep up and coming he's with us in the shallow he's an

up-and-coming youtuber he's the truest of greg's top 10 top 10 uh we're not gonna make we're not gonna make the we are two different people joke because everyone has made it already i yeah i have if you pay attention a couple of people have mentioned in the chat i know it's like a it's a pretty deep cut but i'm glad people are saying it danny gonzalez is here you did it we're just happy you're safe frankly yeah i know that was terrifying i don't i can't emphasize this enough i just clicked on a skype link and I was sucked into some kind of void and I just didn't know where I was. So thank you.

And that's, I think that was Microsoft's fault or something. Maybe Bill Gates has, has accidentally coded a wormhole into, into his telephone program. Yeah. It sounds like Big Willie style. It's Big Willie himself. We're very pleased to have Danny today. We're just going to, we're going to goof and gaff. Maybe we'll talk about some feelings. Maybe we'll talk about some current events. We're very pleased to have Danny today. We're just going to goof and gaff. Maybe we'll talk about some feelings.

Maybe we'll talk about some current events. We're going to play some games. I've got at least one game. That ought to be fun. But first, Danny, how was your week? Shoot, my week? Yeah. I know we came pretty like the hard-hitting questions.

Yeah. This is one of the gotchas it was good i feel like any week where i finish a video and post it is good because that's uh how i judge the majority of my self-worth oh no i i haven't it's not like i have a video edited on my computer right now that i had to like divorce myself from thinking about posting until after we do this podcast yeah that was a pretty big deal for me so no that's exciting that's congrats i used to when uh when i first started youtube uh me and my friend we would

text each other when we published it'd be like happy publishing day because it was like such a celebration oh to get something done it was very wholesome now when you post something i send that was fine yeah he's pretty he's pretty harsh dude no i'm actually quite nice what i usually say is hey bro i love you you're really really starting to almost be funny yeah you're gonna i think you know a couple more videos and you'll be like on the precipice of funny i think i imagine i'll be watching them at that point that's exciting no no do you think if i do like just a few more videos you might take a peek is that what you're is that what you're saying like don't don't tease me here um i i would consider it yeah because i've just been

sort of lurk like lurking just looking at the thumbnails and i can tell uh right away from the thumbnails that you're not funny yeah that's most people yeah right no but um danny you can click those it starts the video yeah well i yeah um i think i knew that i just have been choosing not to um for jarvis because there's some other bug maybe something else is blocking you from doing it must be i think it's he's saying it's he's saying it's it's that i'm i'm not funny yet it's a fully conscious i think there's a bug that's making Jarvis not funny yet or something. It's like YouTube's algorithm. Well, you know, honestly, I was looking for a scapegoat.

I was looking for someone to blame for why I'm not funny. And it was the algorithm. Yeah. That's wonderful. Jordan, go ahead. Were you about to say that? Nothing. And I never would. Oh. Yeah, go ahead were you about to i nothing and i never would oh yeah go ahead jordan yeah well i mean i have some sorry we did we all have the script open for the podcast

yeah this is a scripted podcast everyone's off book yeah let me find some of my jokes i don't know if i have the i don't know if this is the wrong line even this part even this part about danny telling you your line is in the script well i think i'm reading off this nervousness extremely well um let me just try and find it i think i might be on the wrong page because i think my line here is oh daddy i don't think that i don't think that's what i should have been reading that's not that's page three you know what i think when we were writing this i you know how what sometimes when you're writing and you hear something you just write what you hear instead of what you're supposed to be writing. I think when I was writing your line for this, I heard someone say, whoa, daddy. So I just wrote that in. Yeah. Story checks out. So Jordan,

as you were saying, um, oh daddy. Cool. Uh, Jordan, how is, how is your week? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Danny, for, uh, for letting us know about your week. Now, Jordan, how is your week? Thank you. Thank you, Danny, for letting us know about your week. Now, Jordan, it's your turn to do just that. Well, I will jump on because Danny pointed something out just before the show when we were actually being nice to one another. You threw out that you went to the, like, going to the grocery store, wearing a mask and being functional makes you feel like an actual human being again. Yeah, I was saying that, like, at the the beginning of quarantine it felt weird to wear a mask and everywhere it felt like living in some post-apocalyptic world but now it just feels normal and i would feel weird very i would feel like really out of place not wearing a mask now

yeah true when when quarantine started every time i saw someone in a mask it felt like they were like rolling up to me with like a motorcycle and they were like get on and it felt like they were rolling up to me with a motorcycle and they were like, get on. And it's like we were about to be in Mad Max or some shit. There's no time to explain. Yeah, we've got to go. But now it is normal. I do this mad dash back to my apartment whenever I forget a mask because I'm afraid a sniper laser is going to go on my forehead if I show up anywhere without one. Oh, I did have a time recently where I was going somewhere and I forgot a mask. And I had seen people before just like go into a store like this.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was on my way somewhere and I was already pretty far from home and I didn't want to go back and get a mask. So I just like went like this into a store as fast as I could because I knew it was a target and I know they always have them like right at the front the mask and then I could do self-checkout and then it turns out that I bought without because I didn't look at the mask I just like quickly grabbed it and it was like an extra large mask so it's just it just like, every time I try to put it on, it just like droops off my face.

It does not fit on my face at all. It protects your whole body from COVID. Yeah, it protects the bottom of my Adam's apple from COVID. My most sensitive area. It's good. That's actually your weak point if you were like a boss in a video game. Yeah.

There's like a red circle around my Adam's apple. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh wait, Jordan Jordan did you tell us how your week was no I deflected that I was afraid I don't want you to know my secrets okay tell us tell us your secrets yeah we're not gonna judge you we're not gonna judge relatively inactive to almost a dangerous degree I would say that sucks wow you're bad as a person yeah that's bullshit I actually didn't if you can believe it I didn't achieve a set of things and that made me feel bad about myself sucks to suck man can you imagine sort of what that would be like no and now i can't relate man i posted a video this week so i'm

feeling pretty good about myself can't relate shit man hey congrats you're now valid i'm doing a podcast right now and you're not bro so tough love it's you to the world yeah i'll be honest with you though it's genuinely boosting me just to do the show it's there's been an absence of I don't know doing

like in general it's all been admin and kind of tedious stuff and I was psyched for this episode I knew that Danny was going to be watching the episode

I didn't know he was coming on it but I was psyched about sort of watching and him commenting were you the one who put him in the deep yes I did put him directly in the deep yes i did put

him directly in the deep to hear all my funny jokes okay yeah so you just thought i was going to be in the deep for the whole episode oh yeah i know i assumed you'd done some legally do so you really didn't you really didn't achieve anything you you couldn't even keep danny in the deep couldn't even keep danny in the deep sounds like a very strange children's book nobody keeps danny in the deep danny in the deep is your uh ghost written biography oh yeah i feel like danny in the deep is like what uh when danny becomes like america's most wanted criminal what like a true crime writer would title like a series about him yeah it's sort of like danny at large in the deep a six-part docu-series danny at large is much more fun i think you'd have to do a lot of petty crimes for danny at large yeah he was last he was last seen in a target like it like this

i was gonna say you did look sort of uh up to no good with your shirt over your mouth i don't know if that's like a thing you get a lot or that i look like i'm up to no good yeah yeah i've got like resting up to no good face like uh what's what's what's his secret like what's he what's he hiding he's about to do something i guess we'll stick around and see see what what goes on what happens big jj what's up jj himself how are you if you know is is it possible that you haven't published something and that's affecting your mental state you know um i'm gonna i'm gonna break from form uh and be earnest i actually was just thinking that we should have a soundboard for whenever we are like vulnerable where it's like emotional vulnerability yeah i was thinking

like air horns could be really cool the most emotionally vulnerable instrument i woke up this morning which is already a win but i went to bed last night as well sorry not to flex and um i i like edited i tried editing a video on stream yesterday which was interesting like i kind of just like posted up and really i just didn't want to work you know those days when you're just like i don't want to do anything but i had to because of uh because of contract reasons and brand deals and shit yeah and so um i was like maybe i'll just like stream myself for five hours to no one because on my personal twitch channel i don't like no one follows it.

So I was like, I'm not going to promote this. I'm just going to hang out with like 20 people and edit for like five hours. And I did that and that was cool. But then I wasn't done with the video at the end because I got mostly distracted by the Twitch chat, which is why most people don't edit their videos on stream, I assume. And is it still something you might be tempted to do again though? Oh, for sure. Definitely. Definitely.

Yeah, that sounds kind of fun. When I have more time to Danny, I'm curious if you have this experience as well. Do you labor over tiny decisions? Kind of like what Jordan's saying, where I don't know that, like, I'll watch something back and I'll go, that's slightly off. And then I will sometimes get caught up trying to figure out exactly what it was that I wanted on like a 10 second joke or something. Whereas if you ask any other human being that's not in your brain, they're like, I don't know, it seems fine. When it happens for me, it's like,

it's when I write something. And then for some reason, when I deliver it, and then I'm editing it, like I, I can't remember how it was supposed to be when I wrote it. Or like the way that I wrote it, it's only funny when it's in writing. And when you deliver it out loud, it's like, wait, how is this supposed to be funny? Or like I didn't deliver it right or something like that. Yeah. Oh, that's all relatable to me. I'm definitely like say something and then I'll go, oh, nope, I guess that's getting cut because it doesn't make any sense now.

And the other thing is like I tend to have this arc where I like lose faith that the video even makes sense. It is like anything. Like I write it and I'm like this is a thing. It has a beginning, middle, and end. It's going places. I look at the footage and I go, what is this garbled mess? I start editing the dialogue cut and I'm like, oh, unfortunately, none of this is funny. It's going places. I look at the footage and I go, what is this garbled mess? I start editing the dialogue cut and I'm like, oh, unfortunately, none of this is funny. It's a shame. I'm going to have to pack it up and quit YouTube now. And then-

And they were all right. When it's finally finished, I'm like, oh, this isn't so bad. One thing that is helpful to me is to remember that I always feel that way so that I can push myself through this stuff that doesn't feel good. Because it's not until, I don't want to give up prematurely on it, you know? Yeah. I feel like my, my process of making videos is the process of slowly assuring myself that the video is going to be a good video. I feel like at the beginning, I'm like, okay, this could be a good video. And then like the second I start writing it, it dips down and like slowly builds back up until it's done being edited.

And then I'm like, okay, this is a fine video. Yeah, exactly. It's like I definitely reach points where I'm like, why did I ever think this was a good concept for a video? What was I even thinking? And it's like I already wrote it at that point. It's just wild how we kind of doubt ourselves, knowing full well that, you know know if we put whatever out people are going to validate that it's a good thing but there's kind of that inner critic i guess that that you're fighting against it's an inner critic that's like the least qualified to critique like there is no

worse critic for it your instincts say well i've looked at it the most so i know the most i have like a phd in this video let me go off where in actuality you have like you were trapped in a prison cell with this video for 15 years and your impression of the videos just become negative no matter what you're the only person who can't enjoy your video the way that other people do yeah i guess it's kind of comforting knowing that like there's no one that will not enjoy my video as much as i do by the time i'm done editing it like yeah yeah i think it's fine yeah just a great baseline do you ever let the performance of a video affect how you feel about it so for example i've told the story a million

times but like the five minute crafts video i did that blew up was uh a video that i put out when i was still making tech content and everyone hated it and it got like 9,000 views or something. And then six months later, Cody Co made a video about five minute crafts and like the YouTube algorithm picked it up and it got like 2 million views overnight. And then like my channel blew up and I was like, oh, maybe this video isn't so bad. Yeah, I suppose so. I think like when I made the first video where I tried Troom Troom crafts Like it was pretty different from commentary even though it's sort of like it's sort of doing commentary Like while doing the crafts, but yeah, it just felt very different

And so I was like I don't know if people are gonna really like this But then after I posted it it did really well And it's like there's still one of the biggest videos on my channel Yeah, and now thinking back on it I feel like I was a genius back then like I really knew what I was doing but like at that time I was like I don't know if anyone's gonna like this yeah I definitely relate to that it's funny because like I remember I like didn't know your content and I found you because everyone was saying that I was like ripping you off or that I was like copycatting you and then I learned about all of the sort of similarities in our like trajectories in life.

And then I was like, oh, no wonder, like, no wonder there's just like a lot of similar like vibes here. That's how I met Eddie too, is we made a video about the same thing. And then people kept commenting on my video saying that Eddiedie just made this video and so i like dm'd him on twitter or something i was like hey i didn't see your video i'm sorry yeah that's like legit uh by the way shout out to eddie burback shout out to eddie the nicest man question mark yeah greatest mustache though like he might be beating you jordan relax dude and no i i would say relax because he 100 is and i'm insulted that you'd think otherwise but uh he's got the stash on lock it's literally flawless every time i talk

about a topic i've definitely seen like i remember one time i wrote in my like uh like a doc i have for videos subliminal affirmations subliminal affirmations like becoming ariana grande and it was in my list and then like curtis connor made a video exactly that. And then I looked at like my thing in my list and I was like, do I do I do it still? I don't know. Like, I always am. So I feel like, despite the fact that every late night comedian makes the same Trump jokes over and over and over again, and all of them are like, in that that's teams of writers all like going to the same Trump jokes over and over and over again. And all of them are like, and that's teams of writers all like going to the same place comedically. Right. Yet,

yet the tone and like the delivery and the perspective is different. I still doubt myself even entering a topic area that's like similar to, you know, you or Drew or Curtis. I feel like there's going to be people either way that feel either way about it because like whenever i i do a video some like i did one recently i think that like john tron had made a video about like years ago yeah and i got a lot of comments it's like john tron already did this and i don't i haven't watched every john tron video wait you haven't

sorry but then there's also people who like right after cody or like drew or curtis posts a video about something i get a bunch of dms that are like you should make a video about the end like when cody made a video about velocipaster i suddenly got a bunch of dms that were like yeah you should make a video about this movie called velocipaster as if like i i'm subscribed to cody i know he just made a video about it yeah yeah yeah yeah why it's it's weird right you should be afforded the benefit of the doubt that you are never making something because somebody else made it and if you knew they did that's why you didn't make a video about it whereas i think more often than not like don't get me wrong i understand the appeal it's

like if you really really like mexican food and you go out one night you get mexican food next time you go out you probably want to go get mexican food at a different place like you like mexican food you like this thing but at the same time i don't know if i had to choose between getting the same topic that is limited to a certain type of statement like yeah sure a movie review could be interesting you might pick up on different things but i don't know if we all watch the room and make movies about or make little videos about the room there's no way we're not going to talk about 90 of the same shit because it's always it's in the zeitgeist but even the nature of the joke though is still could be different like even if the crux of it like um

i can't remember any specific examples but i remember when i was watching a bunch of late night for a video everyone had the same punch line and like kind of got there a different way, you know? And I was like, and then that was, that was interesting. Like to see the, like, I like the way, like the way that Cody and Danny will joke about something is dramatically different. Despite the fact that the like subject matter could be very similar. Like the construction of the joke is like very different. And so I think that like a lot of people kind of miss the point when it comes to stuff like that, especially because like as creators, I'm always asking like, do I have something unique to add here knowing that other people have made, have made this stuff? Yeah. And I don't, I don't fault people for if like, if Drew makes a video

about something, I wouldn't fault people for wanting me to make a video about the same thing. Cause I see the appeal in that. Like that's kind of why I figured that because I've done like two Disney Channel movies now. And I know full well that like a lot of people have already seen those movies. It's not like I'm bringing them to their attention. But I do think there's something fun about like this movie that came out eight years ago

that you saw when you were a kid. And now like your favorite YouTuber is like talking about that thing. I think that's fun. Exactly. That's why I made a video about High School Musical. Yeah, it's fun to see different people talk about the same thing. So I understand it.

It's just, I feel like for me, it's less interesting to talk about something when I've just seen a video about it. So it's like- Absolutely. Oh, especially if you're- Go ahead, Jordan. No, you go ahead, Jay.

Okay. Fine. See what happens. Especially if you've watched that video. Like I remember I wrote a video about tall girl and then thought about it a lot. And then just like, was like,

nah, like everything that's been, everything has been said about this movie. I don't, I don't need to do this. Yeah. But, but Shane,

the Shane Dawson situation, which has kind of come back into the four, like D'Angelo Wallace made this like very comprehensive video kind of airing out all the receipts and like stuff that happened. And I was making like a meta commentary on the discourse around Shane and like why Shane keeps getting canceled every two years. It's like the answer is like a lot of this stuff hasn't been addressed. So it's like surprise. That's why it's like the answer is like a lot of this stuff hasn't been addressed so it's like surprise that's why it's coming up but a lot of people in fact someone despite the fact that we just had d'angelo on our podcast we made uh a previous episode we referenced his video and then someone was said we were copying the structure and pacing of his video and i was like you know that we were just having a

conversation right and we like took a clip out of it and put it on youtube it wasn't like this master plan they also call the pseudo youtubers in that in that comment which is fun what is the pseudo youtuber that's somebody on vimeo yeah it's it's a it's i was gonna say it's a youtuber with administrative privileges but that's a joke you know i upload all my videos to live leak i'm sorry oh shit yeah that's why they're completely uncensored you know that that actually does kind of bring me to uh one current event that i kind of want to address a little bit we talked about leafy last episode and we watched one of his videos one of his commentaries uh criticizing um andre turbia of all people and his main major criticism was that he's not funny and that he thinks he's smart um oh and then his animation's bad don't forget and his animation's bad and to

quote leafy if he had a team of a vietnamese sweatshop something something that he wouldn't make good animation it's like okay uh not to mention the fact that leafy added 30 seconds of audio to andre's entire video so it's, I don't even think that counts as fair use. That's like not transformative in any way. And then like to try and criticize another creator when like you are literally just ranting over other people, over other people's content or like video game footage. I don't know, but Leafy got, I think it was suspended. So I don't know what's going to happen from here, but his channel is now down and according to youtube it's because of multiple um violations of terms of service around bullying and harassment and a lot of people think this is related to the 12 uh or so videos he

made about pokeman yeah they're thinking maybe it's related to the multiple cases of harassment. He was banned from harassment. So a lot of people have sort of been speculating that it might be due to the harassment. The harassment that he did. If you can believe it. Well, you know, in Leafy's defense, at least the beginning of one of his videos about Pokimane was exclusively about the Australian stock market. And that was confusing to both of us. That's actually what he

got banned for inside of trading so i haven't i didn't follow the leafy thing at all i just thought it was trending and that he got banned did yeah yeah did he post about like if youtube said specifically why he was banned and i also haven't watched like any of leafy's content so slasher tweeted about the reason that he was banned being due to bullying and harassment. Leafy, he may have, someone said he made a video on a second channel, but I didn't see that. I saw he made an appeal to YouTube on Twitter, tagging like Susan and a bunch of other people. And then the major discourse that I'm seeing is a lot of people, a lot of creators who feel like this is a slippery slope for YouTube and are talking about censorship and are talking about like, it's just jokes. And like, where's the line?

We can't say anything now. And I don't know, man. I'd say the weirdest element of that is most alarming to me is that you could see direct threats of violence towards Pokimane that were sort of edgy jokes and were then- Fully condoned. That were then completely condoned by Leafy who would add to the joke. And I just think that's a very irresponsible way to use your platform. Did he do that on YouTube? Because I thought i saw screenshots of tweets of that it wasn't on youtube it was tweets or as far as i know the stuff i'm referencing is tweets yeah and i don't

know youtube's policy about on and off platform behavior and stuff but yeah interesting situation i i'm gonna keep paying attention to it i think that like there's a lot of nuance to issues like this and it's very easy to jump on the like yelling fire in a crowded theater thing where it's like oh we're all we're all doomed commentary is over everybody and it's like yeah no because there was a there was worries about that before like when youtube first changed their terms of service or whatever to be more anti harassment because that was like a couple months ago or I don't know how long that was ago because I can't keep track of time but well no we're worried about 700 years ago I think yeah I got a lot of dms that were like what are you gonna do now that

you can't do commentary anymore because uh harassment's not allowed and it's like I'm not harassing people I don't have to worry about that it's not yeah then if it was a slippery slope it hasn't it hasn't been that slippery because we're still here. I think that the real issue is that people don't know the difference between harassment, criticism, good faith criticism, bad faith criticism, and then the power dynamics at play between like if a big creator talks about a little creator in a negative way. Or I would consider Leafy and Pokimane to be peers. And so that is an important element. If Pokimane was like the president of the United States, it would be very different. So I saw some people comparing late night comedians joking about Trump and making fun of Trump's appearance and stuff to what Leafy was doing to Pokimane. And that's not the same to me because the power dynamics are completely

different with like the most powerful person in the world. Regardless of your political persuasion. Regardless of any political stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Like I have no problem making a video about someone with like millions of subscribers if they're doing something wrong or if I just think it's like a funny video idea,

but I would never make a video about like someone with like 5,000 subscribers or something like that would just be so mean because yeah I and I never want people to go and comment on other people's stuff if I make a video about them but like people do even if I tell them not to on if on someone with like millions of subscribers it's like those comments just sort of get filtered out you never even see them but yeah if it's like on someone with like 5,000 subscribers it's like those comments just sort of get filtered out. You never even see them. But yeah, if it's like on someone with like 5000 subscribers, it's like they, they will never not have all of those comments on their feed. Like that will only be their comments. It's like they have no chance to redeem themselves practically, or to redefine themselves in the way that YouTube works with like audience behavior and stuff. It's kind of has a big impact on their ability to do what they want to do.

And so I think that what you're talking about is like you feel the responsibility of your platform. Like, you know, that if you talk about something, there's the risk that people go and go and reach out to that person. I think that that's the major difference is some people don't believe they hold that power or don't wield it responsibly. There's way, I i mean it's also worth pointing out that if you're making commentary especially on a youtube channel what you're

usually commenting on is like some kind of weird dissonance right like why is this trending or this behavior is not acceptable for somebody with this kind of scale of platform or why does somebody of this size create something so shitty that does so well like the statement that look at this small creator i think what they're making is subpar is just kind of mean and yeah what's what's the point yeah like what's like what's what's even the statement congrats like yeah yeah it's like i feel the same way about shaming people in public like look at these people at walmart are, I'm better than them. And this post makes me feel good. Taking a picture of them being bad and me being good.

Like that kind of thing. Yeah, I think like Leafy either doesn't understand, or from what I've heard of him, because I really, I haven't been calling it that much but like yeah i would think that he either doesn't understand the the power that his platform has if he's making jokes about killing people or he's like willingly uh ignoring that and like you know trying to make it seem like he doesn't understand that when he i worry i worry about that yeah or just like i think that people who want to be edgy because that's like what they think is cool or cringy or shit posts or whatever that's the slippery slope to me um we don't have to keep talking about this but it's a interesting like the nelk boys or one of the nelk boys had a bro test did you see this like well

i'm making a video about influencer parties right now and i'm learning about a lot of influencers that are gigantic that i didn't know about. Many from TikTok. Nelk boy. Nelk boys. I think it's like a big, I think Nelk is like this big, first of all, it's very fun to say. Nelk. Yeah, I don't know. I vaguely know who that is, but I've never watched their videos.

There's this dude like Steve Will Do It or something. And there's this like big burly man named Bradley something or other. He owns a gym. Bradley might do it. Bradley's considering it. They were like, all this stuff's going on in the world right now. But you know what the biggest problem is? We can't get our gains.

And then they're like, let's hold a protest. And they've got signs that say like gym lives matter and stuff like that. And it's like um i don't know if this is the best idea yeah and with your millions of followers i think the thing that steve will do is just binge drink i think that's his entire brand like he has he has one of those intros where it's like a cool like montage cut to music where it's like and he's just like drinking stuff like oh hell yeah and wait i didn't know this guy was cool slow down a second yeah hold on i'm gonna have to rethink my opinion about him i think i have to go actually yeah yeah hold up was it like

beer or like white claws he was yo actually uh he drinks straight from like a bottle of vodka or something so he's like doing that in the gym as well so that's interesting um and then at one point he shotguns a white claw which to me is like one of the most confusing shows of like masculinity i've ever seen like i'm not sure how to how to feel about it i've never seen a white claw just like he just guns a cosmopolitan yeah just eats the whole can of the white claw so that's actually the thing it's like i have a joke in this video where i say like we better give this guy what he wants or he might eat the other nelk boys because he's like a pretty like buff like dude and i'm like okay like this could be construed as like a little bit body shamey uh i'm not coming at it from that angle. I'm coming at it from this aggressive consumption like that he's doing. But do I worry about that particular joke, right? No, because this guy's in a very high position. He's got millions of fans. All that is a little bit of seasoning on top of like legitimate criticism of like what he's doing, he's making he's making uh sexual assault jokes r-word jokes um at one point he stages himself punching his assistant

so there's it's like hilarious abuse literally punching down he's literally yeah he's he has a slow motion bit where he's just like beats his assistant and it's just like oh why wait does he really hit them no he doesn't really hit hit them but it's it's weird to see like all these people like nervously laugh kind of like where they're like ha ha ha steve will do it like don't don't be confused yeah that's like that's not a cool thing that's like a threat like steve will do it yeah you better watch out you better watch he's not like bradley he's not like bradley like steve will do it yeah you better watch out you better watch out like bradley he's not like bradley at all influencer parties do you have you been uh you were telling us that you just like took a red eye from la where you were at the latest greatest

tiktok but yeah i just got back from uh bryce hall's absolute banger of a party dude his 21st no lights no water it was awesome all claw yeah it was kind of cool it's like a low-key candlelit ragers yeah that's how that's a hilarious concept a candlelit rager the one thing that I was worried about with that is like I mean definitely don't throw a party but also like shutting off his power isn't that just like encouraging him to go to his friend's house it's like everyone that lives at that house is now going to be like staying at someone else's house and that's just like now that's already a

party it's like however many people live in his house however many people live at his friend's house that's basically a party all the time now like eventually there won't be a house big enough for everyone. It's like the Hype House guys, they have to go over to Sway House. And now it's like the Hype plus Sway. Then it'll be Hype plus Sway plus 10 plus FaZe. Yeah. And then eventually they're like, all right, boys, we've got to start a city.

They go off into the woods and start some like Peaks shit just like they're on society. That would be some content that I would watch. Yeah, that'd be cool. Starting a society in the woods with the Team 10 house and the Sway. I don't even know what the Sway house is. Is that Bryce Hall's house? Bryce Hall's house is the Sway house. Yeah, I only know this because I

had to learn it for this video. I think Hype House was the first one that was throwing all the parties, but everyone goes to all of them, you know? Yeah. And people, like the defense that everyone's using is like, we've just got to do our jobs. People want content from us. And I'm like, is any of your content coming from these parties? Yeah. I mean, I don't know if I'd call that content if it's just like an Instagram story of us partying. Like, that's not really what the fans are demanding, I wouldn't think.

It's hard to put myself in the mindset of a Bryce Hall fan, but I feel like it's the TikToks mostly. So it's the TikToks, which is like usually not done at a party, one would think, and there's choreography involved. But I think that, like, what I started to understand is that there's choreography involved but i think that like what i started to understand is that there's like this reality show i sound like a fucking boomer i'm i'm grandpa over here

like well this was your nephew was telling you about this reality show yeah yeah he he uh he fixed my my ipad it was yeah i mean this this little guy is amazing with computers you've got it if you have a problem just give him a call it wouldn't print my ipad wouldn't print and then he fixed it for me um yeah i think your ipad might be out of ink is what the issue is that's what that's what he said that's what he said you can get it are you my nephew yeah what's up uncle jarvis what i understand is like i now imagine this is a big reality show that's playing out in real time. And the parties are like a place like where drama can happen. So it like adds to the storyline, I think.

So if you see people pictured together, then it's like, oh, snap. Like, is Addison Rae going to get back with Bryce Hall? They were pictured together at this party or whatever. These are just names to me. I don't really know what I'm saying. So do you think that this is like, that's part of the content strategy is like being seen at parties with whomever

and that might make people more invested in the grand story of Bryce Hall? The desirable lifestyle is like the foundation of those personalities. Like, don't get me wrong. It's that we're not talking about like actually, you amazing successful people that don't like like like dan bilzerian but most of the time it's truly like okay yeah i like your show i like your content like your videos whatever but what i actually really really like as a confused and lost 15 year old is the

idea that i could just be going to parties all of the time and that I could do more or less whatever I want, even during quarantine. I think that's an appealing aesthetic, no matter what they're actually making the concept of them being able to have full agency, even when the world is shut down, doing things I could never dream of that independently, I think is really appealing. I feel like I saw a post on Facebook that like one of my, all right, grandpa. Okay, flex. Well, my nephew was showing me Facebook and as he was scrolling, I just sort of like caught a glance at one. Jarvis is your nephew.

Jarvis is my nephew and I'm Jarvis's nephew. Don't ask questions. You would understand if you were rolling in the deep. It's a complicated relationship. But I saw like, you know how, I don't know if you have this, but like your older relatives will post about like, why can't the quarantine be over? It's not that big of a deal. Yeah, I saw one post that like included that what happened to Bryce Hall in there. And I was like, do old people care about TikTok now because the TikTok star's like reaching this new audience of like old people who don't care about COVID now. And so that could be like a cool new route for him to go. It's like the anti-vax mom route kind of thing. Anti-vax moms love Bryce Hall.

That's what I hear. And Minions. The trifecta of both two things. Like it seems like they do live for the drama. Like I watched a Bryceryce hall video um which was interesting like the whole video was like look man i'm not about the drama i don't really care about the drama i literally don't care i can't but this guy yeah this guy just called me out and uh what are you being a little bitch for calling me out you know where i live

come say that shit to my face and i was like whoa like it's like are you i a little bitch for calling me out? You know where I live. Come say that shit to my face. And I was like, Whoa, like, it's like, are you, I don't care about the drama, but I'm going to have a fight publicly in front of millions of people. He literally said, uh,

yo, like that, like Logan Paul shit. Like I'm trying to do that. Like, let's do that. And I'm like, so you do that is,

Hmm. I don't know how to tell you this buddy, but that is, he doesn't care about the drama. He cares about the competitive energy. That is the drama. He cares about the competitive energy of boxing. That is the drama. He cares about the sport. I can understand how you can go, how you can be very selfish in that moment and go, whatever, I'm going to live forever.

Like the future doesn't exist and I want satisfaction and gratification now. I mean, I understand where they're coming from. It's just a matter of like i need other people to like it's dangerous that there's so many like 17 year old millionaires running around with like no supervision yeah i mean the like the whole hype house thing that it just seems like it's so destined for there to be drama like they don't have to manufacture that if it's a bunch of like teens living together yeah with no parental supervision and it seems like people are like dating each other. It's like, of course, that's going to erupt.

Don't worry, guys. There's going to be drama. Yeah. They're doing The Bachelor in quarantine. Well, yeah. Have you heard about all the drama with that? Yes. The series has gotten a lot of criticism over the years for you know not being representative of

different people from different backgrounds there's only been one black bachelorette i don't believe there's ever been a black bachelor you know just the one they just announced oh yeah uh fucking tyler cameron's friend tyler's friend yeah yeah um you know he's gonna be a good bachelor because he's ty because you know him as Tyler's friend. You know him as a really popular guy from his season's friend. The guy who they really would have liked to be the Bachelor, but he wants nothing to do with the franchise because he's going to Gigi Hadid's grandpa's funeral or whatever. He's the hottest person in the world. I don't think he needs to be on The Bachelor anymore. Yeah.

He's like, I've graduated. This is, by the way, Bachelor boys. Welcome back. So anyway, the series, yeah, it's got a lot of criticism. And one of the critiques is due to like, most of the people on the show are super young. Like the last Bachelorette, I think was 24. And so they're like, hey, what about representation for like older people? They were like, cool.

They got this woman, Claire Crowley, who was on a bunch of other seasons of The Bachelor, and she's a little bit older. What is she, like 35 or something? I think she might be like 38. I don't, well, I don't know. Is it 35 or 38, Danny? Look, we need the tea. Look, it's literally impossible to find out.

One second. God, you've you gotta talk to your nephew uh figure out how to google the um she's 39 wow progressive good job bachelor pat yourselves on the back um i thought you meant progressive because she was 38 and now she's 39 no no she's progressive she's very progressive of her to age like that anyway uh one of the finalists that colton didn't want to date is taisha who is uh biracial she's mexican and black and she's also a good person she's uh uh i feel like she's like uh like uh like what's the word um nice nice yeah she's nice that's the word you were looking for, yeah. She's got like a good head on her shoulders

and I think she'll be a good bachelorette because- Isn't she? I forget what she did for a living. I thought she had some like really cool job or something. She's a lobotomist. She takes blood, right? Yeah. Unwillingly.

She's a vampire. She's a vampire. You know a little bit about that, huh, Danny? Yeah, she's my dad. Damn, there's a whole complex family tree. whole complex seems like we know each other yeah so she would be your great uncle i guess if grunk if she's my dad my grunkle you're my nephew did you say grunkle my god i did say grunkle it was a reference to gravity falls okay shout out did we both say Grunkle? Did we? Oh, wow. I didn't even know it was a Gravity Falls reference.

We regularly say the same thing at the same time, and it's a problem. Well, we're fusing. Because I don't know if you've experienced anything like this, Danny, but people think that we're the same person. No. I can't relate to that. I'm sorry. Okay, well. Everyone sees me as my own unique individual person, and there's not a joke that everyone says about it

so what's funny is i mean i'm waiting on twitter when we ask for questions nobody's managed to take a swing nobody's brave enough to reference that yet you'd think someone would but no i took some screenshots today um is that the end of the segment and that's all folks um cool all right i figured out which button it was my nephew did all by myself yeah um this is on like sad boys videos because we just recently started posting this stuff to youtube and someone said i'm new here and i literally can't figure out if these are two different people or if he's playing a character and is really good at acting holy these are two different people ha ha ha i thought it's edited in just one person speaking

just two versions of himself and like people are legit like legitimately confused that's wait a minute about you guys so much more impressive if this was a single person acting on two angles that is so much better than our show and like either a really good american accent or a really good british accent i know i cannot do jordan's accent to save my life yeah and so people are just like i thought it was just one guy talking to himself like if i had a really high-minded like high concept like curtis connor podcast where it's like me to me it's like very really good times two very really especially good damn all right i want to talk about the fact that danny and I went to the same college at the same time and somehow didn't overlap or didn't meet. But first, I want to play a game.

You guys want to play a game? Yeah. Let's do it. Danny, is it true that like me, you're an epic bacon gamer? That I'm an epic gamer? Yeah. Yes. I mean, I don't game often, but when I do, it's pretty epic.

You game out, you'd say? Oh, yeah. Do you rise up? I try not to just because I don't want to show off, but you know,, it's pretty epic. You game out, you'd say? Oh, yeah. Do you rise up? I try not to just because I don't want to show off. But, you know, when the time's right, I'll rise up. I game prone. This game is called Keep Doing That, Kanye. It's based on the fact that Kanye West is very active on Twitter.

And sometimes he tweets really funny things. And other times he is bad and stuff. And he's like running for president and he probably shouldn't be and all kinds of other bad stuff so i want to encourage good behavior from kanye west so that he can just be a meme for all of us to enjoy without having to worry about uh you know supporting his less savory antics so this is called keep doing that kanye yeah yeah keep doing that. Imagine like you're saying this.

Keep this up, Kanye. It's a very poorly named segment. I do understand that. Actually, I know we discussed this already, and we almost forgot. Would you mind doing the theme song now, just live? Oh, yeah. It's in the script, which you know off the top of your head. Right.

I feel like it's a parody of the song song from the life of pablo where he's like i miss the old kanye sure but instead it's it's uh i'm keep doing that kanye i miss the that kanye yeah get back to rap kanye oh that's right yeah there's other lines a good several minutes uh keep doing that kanye with uh, you funny dad, Kanye. But now you're bad, Kanye. Yeah. Oh yeah. You make me sad,

Kanye. I miss my dad, Kanye. Where is my dad, Kanye? What did you do, Kanye? Return him to me,

Kanye. I, I don't want to change the subject because I really, truly am missing my dad, Kanye. He's blaming Kanye for your father's Disappearance that's the bit or Kanye is my father who's to say

Well Tasha's my father Good point so he's your grand Uncle dad someone Will come up with the full family tree after The episode I guarantee you I look forward to it I'm a little So interested myself I'm very little interested myself.

I'm very interested. What we're looking at right now is a photo of the one and only Steve Harvey. Notorious good bloke. Kanye tweeted this photo there at Chick-fil-A. You have to guess what the caption is that Kanye tweeted this with. Is it like multiple choice or I just have to come up with this? You just have to off the top of your head. You're never going to get it unless you are. We'll judge you based on this isn't a real game. It'll just be fun. You can call somebody if you need to. Mine is going to be a reference to one of his songs from Jesus is King. It's going to be closed on Sunday. You're my Steve Harvey. That's my guess. Wow, that's so much better than the real one.

The answer to what this caption is, transition, me and Steve Harvey was hungry. That is what Kanye said. So this gives you an idea of the mind of Kanye West and how he thinks, how we should all think. I like that the caption adds virtually nothing to the picture because like you can tell that they were hungry because they're at chick-fil-a um i guess it provides a little bit of backstory but i know you can also provide it provides the context that that is steve harvey yeah in case you're wondering yeah that's steve well it's either him or steve harvey but i'm gonna guess that that's steve Harvey. It's also nice to know that it was in the prior tent.

So now he's not hungry, I would guess. Oh, yeah. He's tucked into some Chick-fil-A. So that's nice. We know that he's already had his hunger quenched. His hunger quenched. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. His hunger's been quenched.

His hunger was quenched. So this next photo needs no introduction. It's Kanye holding a shoe, as he's one to do. Jordan has not seen this. So now we're in the full game. Jordan and Danny, I want to hear both of your guesses as to what Kanye said. All right. I already have a guess.

All right, Danny, what's your guess? My guess is a ghost tried to kick me. Really out there? Yeah. And this is presumably the shoe of the ghost or is it completely unrelated? Yeah. Or it's a metaphor. Yeah, I'm saying that Kanye's blocking a ghost kicking him.

The ghost is wearing whatever new Yeezys this is. The ghost's unfinished business is related to Nike, so it's afraid to take a swing. For some reason, it's a ghost that's completely invisible except for the Yeezys, and it's trying to kick Kanye, but he's blocking it very well it's a very deft deft hand kanye has it's very very delicately like has his hand on the shoe he he really knows how to take care of a shoe you know he's not gonna let the fact that

he's being attacked no he doesn't want to crease them or anything they're still very nice shoes you think he's taking photos during the attack that's yeah he's like i gotta snap i gotta snap this that does seem very kanye damn okay jordan do you have a guess is these are the houses that my feet live in all right so let's find out what kanye said and the answer is i'm getting better at this these bring me back to my childhood growing up on anime, I need a pair. Sorry. These bring me back to my... Look, is it not clear enough? These bring me back to my childhood.

Growing up on anime, I need a pair. Okay. Wait, so how is he holding them if he doesn't have a pair? Does he only have one? And so he's like, I wish I had a pair. I need a pair specifically. I'm missing a pair. Or it's the he's being kicked by an anime ghost who has very cool shoes.

And he's just like, hold on. Let me snap a photo. I need to acquire. That's the only way you can capture them. Wait, no, it's because he doesn't have a pair. He only has the one shoe. Yeah, he's only got one. So he's like, I wish I had a pair of these.

I wish I had one for both my feet. Yeah. That yeah that's so i'm gonna uh show you the next round i'm gonna give the point to danny on that one because i think that it made sense look uh the the points don't matter there's no points there's no point to this ha ha okay friendship doesn't either so this next one is gonna look very familiar New fresh I think he has a pair thankfully so in case you're in case you're curious Yes, Kanye did tweet the same but twice he tweeted it back-to-back, but with a different caption wait So is this the exact same photo? It's the exact same photo Okay, cuz now I'm sort of seeing like a shadow coming out of the same photo it's the exact same photo okay because now i'm sort of seeing like a shadow coming out of the shoe like it's a really skinny ghost leg oh wait wait a

second hold on you might you might be on to something hang on that looks like a slightly different angle am i correct oh it is a slightly different angle it's a slightly more like sort of side angle um whereas before it was like more of a three-fourth sink. Yeah, I think the shoes rotated a little bit. Exactly, yeah. Oh, mysterious. Rotated all by itself in his hand. Interesting.

Is that maybe just a part of the like torque of the kick, the ghost kick? Just like a part of the motion? Residual power from the ghost kick? Yeah. Or of course it could just be his hand moving because he's holding it with his hand. No, I don't think so. No, probably i probably not no that doesn't add up you're right i embarrass myself let me try to think of what he's saying here i know it's tough take your time i mean i kind of want to stay in the ghost realm maybe just something like number two didn't

you start out the podcast in the ghost realm are you sure you want to go back are they coming from the deep yeah i want to go back to the ghost realm i think i'll see you guys later the deep now it's just this chair shit a lot is riding on this guy okay so i'm gonna i'm gonna assume that this is the second shoe of the pair so now he does have a pair and now i'm now i think oh okay now i think he misses when he just had one so i'm gonna i'm gonna say wish i just had one of these stupid shoes all that glitter ain't gold you know like i've reached the mountaintops and i'm still missing something jordan do you have a guess yeah i'll say in a similar vein that i think maybe kanye doesn't have object permanence so he might he

has the other shoe but now he does not remember that he had the prior shoe so he's just and the loop is happening because he keeps putting them back in his bag. I think it's going to be so happy to have a shoe. I'm Kanye. Oh, wait, Danny. Yeah. I'm going to have you, I'm going to have you read this. Wow. So cool.

Nike, keep innovating. The world needs it. Great job. Wow. I think you made a mistake. It was a great reading, except for the fact that he said the world, the wallard, the wallard, the wallard. To me, this, because I know Kanye's feelings towards Nike, or at least I think I do. He said the wallard. The wallard. The wallard. Amanda Wallard.

To me, this, because I know Kanye's feelings towards Nike, or at least I think I do, this sounds like sarcasm to me. It does. A lot of ellipses, too. He's got some real dad on Facebook ellipses. Yeah. Wow. So cool, Nike. Keep innovating.

Yeah. The world needs more of this. Good job. Right. So, like, where does he stand? Because I thought he needed a pair. Or is that still, do we now think that that also was now these really take me back to my childhood yeah was facetious yeah these really i loved anime like oh yeah these really remind me of anime as if like yeah that would like imply

that they're supposed to remind him of anime if he's being sarcastic about it right i want to pick a good last one but i've got a couple of great options. So what I'll do is I'll pick a new one and then we can all decide if we want to do a bonus one or something. So here we go. Let me make my little screenshot guy and then let me just make sure

to put Danny in here. Yeah, let me get in there. Oh gosh, I've done something bad. Oh no, guys, I'm back in the deep. Okay, Danny's back in the in the deep okay back in the ghost he's back in the ghost realm there's so many shoes yeah how many shoes are there danny i can't i can't count them all they're all kicking me out this doesn't remind me of anime at all oh well that's unfortunate oh yeah the ghost realm really reminds me of anime great job nike all right cool let's

get danny in here there i'm just gonna go ahead and give give people danny's face again so that he oh wait oh thank god i'm back so that he can see how to get how to get danny out of the deep we were all in the deep for a second there yeah what are we what are we looking at here i mean these are just babies chilling in a stick of butter right you say that like um like it's i think it's pretty clear okay is the question literally what is it so um so jordan if you if your answer doesn't have to do with babies chilling in a stick of butter then you're wrong just you know so okay yeah well now i i'm a natural contrarian

so i kind of want to say that it isn't but also i mean people can't see this we have a full camera shot of you and you've been gesturing a fist under the table which I don't love. Feeling a little threatened. I mean yeah my third fist has been gesturing under the table. Are we going for caption or we're just guessing what it is? You've got to guess the caption but I like where your heads are at. I think it seems like the insole to a shoe

but maybe I'm just stuck on shoe anime related topics. This is me. Okay can I change mine? No. I'd like to change mine to this is me oh this is me yeah i do like that um shout out to camp rock this is real this is me i'm exactly where i'm supposed to be okay my guess is ugh take me back like this is sort of like a throwback picture he wants to go back to uh whatever this one this is nostalgia as well like sincere or sarcastic nostalgia maybe with like that

exasperated face like the kind of like uh face you know oh yeah yeah uh mine contains i would i want to say it just contains like the that one and it just says it's me. Danny, I wish you hadn't changed your answer because the correct answer is, drum roll please. Oh. Can't wait to chill like this. Oh, shit. Well, I feel like my answer was almost right. It was just the wrong tense. This is like the future tense of my answer.

It's a time-traveling answer. Take me back. It worked. That's the game, everybody. Fantastic. Danny, theme song i miss the dad kanye bring back my dad kanye where is my dad kanye bring him back it's all your fault kanye it was assault kanye oh no oh no where's this going he's in a vault kanye okay cool thanks for playing oh they say danny plus audio equals fucked is that true i just don't believe it i think that they're talking about a different a different thing

i fucked a microphone once they're talking about wait next time let's do a loop of the gamecube opening just like a never-ending one that never gets to the boom. It never hits the phone. Oh, that one. Oh my God. Now I want to watch it. There's like a 10-hour YouTube video that's just that

and then it does end at the end. Like an old school Mr. Beast would watch that video. It's the only one he gives up on. I can't do it. I have a question for Danny and it's mostly about his experience in college because we went to the same college, Georgia Tech, Go Jackets. I graduated in 2014. Danny, when did you graduate?

I graduated in 2016. Cool. Yeah. So we were offset a little bit. Did you ever take data structures and algorithms, CS 1332? Or I guess what was your major? I was CM, which is a thing that only exists at Georgia Tech, but. Computational media. Yeah. It's like,

how would you describe it, Danny? I think that like a lot of people in CM were kind of in the realm of like, wanted to go into like the game development industry. So it was like, it was like CS cs but also like graphic design art courses stuff like that so you like you were taking like film courses and graphic design courses and also cs courses all the cool people i know were cm i was like a boring cs major yeah i feel like i didn't really even have that i didn't really even have like friends that were in i guess i did but most of my friends like were just like other engineering like yeah yeah yeah is there like a an area or path you would gesture people away from if like say this september they're going into into college oh yeah i guess a lot of people are asking like um for college advice because college is starting up soon for a lot of people or has already started like say of those

majors and minors and focus areas is there something you'd explicitly be like this is a total fucking waste of time please don't do this i don't think i could speak from experience because the i've only done one major and it's was i feel like most kids that i knew from that major have decent jobs now so i feel like some people make the mistake of and this i this is totally just from like my perspective but some people make the mistake of deciding what they want to go to college for instead of what they want to do after college. I think you should decide what you want to be when you're done with college and then get the degree that gets that thing. That's how sometimes people get trapped in a position of getting a college degree for something that's not necessarily marketable for, for jobs or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. I agree with that. I would say also don't be afraid to change it up. If you like, like when you make a decision when you're 18, that's not, uh, you

don't have to like stick to that because you might not like it and you don't want to be unhappy. Like even if you're on your last, I mean, maybe if you're not like about to graduate, cause then you could have some other options. But I think a lot of people, at least I remember when I was in school, there was a lot of weird, like talking down about people who switched their majors and stuff. It's like, oh, it was too hard. So they had to like get out or something. And it's like, I mean, if it's just not their thing, like I don't, I'm not good at, i wouldn't be good at every major i actually started as compy and then i changed to cm because i mean it wasn't even hard yet it was freshman year i wasn't even taking any compy class i was just like this isn't for me i want to do something more like creative

so i like that cm had like art involved in it cm CM is super cool. I think that I used to be like a more artistically minded kid and then I fell out of it. And then I kind of got into or I wanted to learn to code. And so like that's where I got into the CS side of things. And I think that what kept me in it was like the community because the community at the College of Computing was like really good. Yeah, true. And shout out, by the way, Jordan, Jamie and Jessica Crabb, our buddies, were CM. They're twins, but we all went to school together. As a result of CM. I'm trying to think of like any times we would have crossed paths, but there was like one club

that I went to in the College of Computing that was like the game development club, but that's like the only thing that I did it. Oh yeah, the game development club. I think like the only thing i did it oh yeah the game development club i think i maybe went to one meeting i was the president of the web development club for a time but i was like super involved in that stuff like uh the third floor of the college of computing was like the lounge where everybody would kind of there's like couches and like a whiteboard and it was where a bunch of people would hang out after class and so like i was like a mainstay up there so i like knew all the faculty up there and it was where a bunch of people would hang out after class. And so like I was like a mainstay up there. So I like knew all the faculty up there.

And it was like the orgs room was what it was called because it was all the people who were involved with the random orgs at the College of Computing. So I was in like the mobile development club and the web one. And I think the only chance that we would have overlapped is I TA'd both of the Java classes. So at various points, like I TA'd 1331 and 1332. The only nice thing about that now is I went to a thing at YouTube recently and we were like sitting down with some engineers and talking and one guy was like, you were my TA. And I was like, great. Now fix the website. Get back to work. Did you do well?

I like go look at his transcript. Yeah. You're like, hey, you never turned in that assignment. When are you going to do that? You start like hounding him. Yeah. I'm like, yo, you reverse this linked list, bruh. I know you can hear me.

What was your favorite class in college? This is so weird. Yeah. This is really weird because I like never think about college for some reason. I know. I know. I don't either't either to be completely honest because obviously like it's not happening every day yeah for me now okay i think i know what class was probably my favorite there was one where we made like a game boy advanced game yes is it like 20 something 26 yeah it was like a c-sharp class i know that Jessica did that. Oh yeah. It was C it was C

sharp. Yeah. Cause like the version I took was like the CS major version. And so we were writing in C, but I made like a little Pokemon game boy advanced game. There was a lot of good people at Georgia Tech, a lot of good community. Yeah. I miss it. And I wish I did more honestly. Cause like towards my junior and senior year, I got really engulfed in the vine world and I sort of like stopped paying attention to college and did more with that but yeah i definitely wish i did more once i started getting internships i started checking out of class more too because it was like oh i already know what i want to do after i graduate yeah it's cool no shout out to georgia tech it's a good it's a good place we should also throw out like yeah you might find yourself more compelled by something

else and start drifting away from the education you initially signed up for. But it's not necessarily wrong. It's kind of in the vein of what you're saying, Danny, about if you don't necessarily target what your career will be based on what you study, study what you're interested in, and then kind of pivot from there if and when. If you fall in love with something halfway through your last year, it's okay to, I mean, don't prioritize it to the point where you're putting yourself in jeopardy, but also don't feel bad that you care about anything aside from your degree. Oh yeah, totally. Yeah.

There's a follow-up question here that's sort of in, there's an interesting phrasing at the end that I wanted to throw to you about the Georgia Tech stuff, because Yvette says, can you share your experiences on taking computer science? No. How were the career prospects after school? Absolutely not.

But then they said how did you trudge through your education a did it ever feel like a trudge i suppose but b do you have tips on how to trudge through that kind of education well yeah when i was like doing so much on vine it definitely felt like it was kind of like a chore to keep doing my cs degree because at that point i was like i'm gonna be a viner forever baby why do i need this why do i need my computational media degree from from georgia tech why do i need this really good degree from a really good school when i could be a viner for the rest of my life when i found this platform that's going to be easy to monetize long term this website's going to be around forever this is the thing i

can rely on no i mean i think it was a grind for. For me, it was like if it weren't for the community there, I wouldn't have been able to get through it because I think I needed community support for getting through stuff and getting to the point where I felt like I was good at what I was doing. Would that be your advice then? Identify a community and engage as much as possible? That would be my advice but i was like i was playing a different i was playing the game of like get hired in silicon valley which is a whole different situation you know like playing the reason i teed for the classes i teed for was because i knew that that was what they asked in technical interviews and stuff so i was kind of like playing the game to try and get my foot in the door somewhere it definitely seemed like and i i'm not sure if this is true but from like my outside

perspective and all the kids that were like in really close communities not not even necessarily like you know like college of computing stuff or stuff like that but like like um marching band or like uh rotc or like stuff like that yeah Or just clubs like had an easier time in school in general because they had other people that they could rely or like even fraternities and stuff I felt like a lot of times helped. So just like any club where you can or like any organization

where you can feel like you've got people that have your back is really helpful. I'd like wish I did more of that because I feel like it was kind of isolating but having groups of people that you can talk to so yeah extending all the way through your career choice i mean yeah being in a working environment that also does that working is not it's not problem solved you don't go from acquiring your degree into a workplace and just go oh wow i'm only happy

all of the time yeah there's, you talk about trudge. I mean, depending on what the projects are and what the aggressiveness of that project is or how much you care or can engage with it, it can be the most trudgy thing you've ever been involved with. Right, yeah. That's why, yeah, it's definitely important to build out other aspects of your life.

And I feel like that helps with the harder aspects of your life. Yeah, thanks a bit. Good follow-up question. All right, Jordan, hit us with a- You didn't know it was a follow-up question when you asked it, but I made it one. Hit us with a non-college.

We graduated from college. We're out in the real world now. What's- Oh shit, we're doing this linearly. Yeah, we're doing it- These are chronological questions. It's a continuity. Are you going to start using Vine or what?

Where do you think the business is going? Yeah, are you going to start using Vine? Yeah, I went back a little bit more. What's the hardest part about collaborating with other content creators i suppose the first part of that is in general and then the second part is right now uh i suppose logistics is the biggest one right now but in general hardest part yeah i don't know jarvis what what collaborations have you done i haven't really collaborated with many people only like people i knew in real life yeah oh yeah you've done videos with your friends.

Yeah. Yeah. Like it's kind of weird because you see people from afar and it's like hard to know how to make inroads. Even like this podcast, asking people to do it kind of feels like, I was telling Jordan, it kind of feels like, hey, can like Danny come out to play? Like, is it okay if like, you're like, hey, Danny's mom, like is Danny available? I've kind of had to get over myself in quarantine because it's the best excuse because we're all kind of at our houses or on our computers.

And so that's been helpful. I was just texting Trahan, Ryan Trahan, and I was going to have him come on the show because he just made a video about switching up content. Yeah, I watched that video. It's tough. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so i was like oh yeah this would be a great like that kind of stuff i only met him at like a conference or something so i think i i always need like a real world touchstone to yeah i mean we only have only

met like briefly in person right we met at vidcon but we sort of just like in passing i feel like collabs have always happened like very naturally for me like the first time i collabed with drew who's the person i've collabed the most with he just was like coming to la and he was staying with us so we were like what i want to shoot a video while you're here it didn't feel like it was like this big ass right because he was already like staying at our apartment and then curtis i guess the first time we collabed was just on tour so it it was like, yeah, obviously we're going to collab on tour. How do you feel about collabs for collab sake? Because I think that used to be a thing in old school YouTube

where people would be like, oh, this person's big. I'm big. Let's collab. Yeah, let's have a play date for PR sake. Yeah, I don't think I'd collab with someone that was just totally random and I knew nothing about them. Or it's just like, oh, this is a big YouTuber. Sure sure let's get him in here and no that seems weird there's got like i mean i could understand like helping out with a video if they just need like a clip or something but like both sitting down to get like if i did a video like a like a video i would usually collab on with

another commentary person but with like if like james charles wanted to be in that and we both like but we're still doing like a commentary videoames charles wanted to be in that and we both like but we're still doing like a commentary video you're not commenting on the fact that like james charles yeah for some reason that just feels so weird oh yeah we literally have nothing in common and don't have like the same sense of humor or same type of content yeah yeah yeah no that'd be weird also like it's probably not a good strategic decision based on how the youtube algorithm works because if a bunch of james charles people get recommended your videos and like don't click on them and without the like bridging it might hurt your analytics yeah that's a good point too because i was gonna say like it does open you up to the james charles audience but

how interested are they going to be i mean maybe they would all be pretty interested in the video we do together but then if other videos of just me get recommended to them, there's probably a 0% chance they'll click on it. So that would hurt in the long run. Yeah, that's a good point. That question was asked by Skeleloon, by the way. I didn't say the name. Oh, cool.

Ooh, this is a spicy one. How difficult is it? Oh, this is from A. Daniels. A spelled A-Y-E. I kind of dig that. A. A. Daniels YT. I'm assuming they have. A-D. A-Daniels YT. I'm assuming they have a YouTube.

Maybe go look at it. Maybe watch the videos. I don't know. Maybe unsubscribe from Jarvis and Danny. A-Daniels. Danny, is that your alter ego? Yeah, that's my third channel. That's where I get absolutely insane.

With a different face and voice. You're like a... I snort a type of... Oh, Supreme Patty? You're Supreme Patty, Jame. Suicide shot solo. With battery acid. Dude, that'd be crazy if my channels kept getting crazier and crazier

the more I make. And then on my main channel, I'm doing commentary on my 10th channel because I'm doing such cringey shit. Yeah. In the main channel, you're obviously wearing an eye patch and covered in bruises and scars. channel i'm doing commentary on like my 10th channel because i'm doing such cringy shit yeah in the main channel you're obviously wearing an eyepatch and like covered in bruises and scars yeah someone better check out a daniels yeah why does he slash me keep doing this yeah a daniels a asks how difficult is it to have normal friendships as a popular content creator do you guys have any friends i'm not asking based on

your fame more on just the way that you are and the things you say and look uh still working on that one uh i think maybe in a couple couple years i'll be ready for a friend i think i'm gonna be funny soon and then once i figure that out i'm gonna work on friends yeah soon as relative but yeah yeah no i have like i have a lot of friends that I'm, like my high school group of friends, I'm really close with still. I feel like I, yeah, I have like more high school friends than college friends.

I keep in touch with my high school friends a lot. I guess it is kind of weird sometimes with like less, my really close friends, like we can, you know, talk about whatever. But I feel like some semi-close friends sometimes worry about like talking about my youtube videos because they're like are am i coming off as like fanish or something if i talk about your videos or stuff like that i don't but i don't think it's like hard

to have friends there's just like certain weird areas that you have to navigate i agree with that someone asked are youtubers socially awkward irl i feel like a lot of us are to the ratio of general creators yeah i would say the majority of artists are kind of awkward and yeah well it's like we spend all this time in our own spaces like i always feel weird translating into the real world a little bit the weird thing for me sometimes is just wanting to meet other creators like making those relationships in a way that doesn't come off like I'm trying to go after some sort of end goal. You know what I mean? So it's like, I want to, Cody and I got introduced via a mutual friend pre-COVID. And so we haven't like gotten a chance to meet up, but we're going to get coffee.

I like genuinely think that we would have things to talk about, interesting things. And then I always think about what value I can provide. It's like, I know a lot of things about the YouTube algorithm. Like I, trust me, I'm not, I don't need your help for anything I'm not asking anything hello sir I just want to be if anything you should be asking me for help yeah yeah welcome that's what that's what I tell myself in the mirror before before I like doing this Kanye tweet come on I just want to chill like this I guess I do kind of feel in terms of like making friends with other creators. I feel like a lot of other people that I know are way better about like becoming friends with people that they watch. And I just like never even think to reach out to people a lot of the times because I'm like, I don't want to seem like I'm like, like you said, trying to get something out of them or like I want this relationship where like I'm just like a fan of you and I just like want to talk about your videos all the time or something like that so it's like a weird thing but I've talked like yeah I guess I've realized a little bit that like if someone reached out like that I watched reached out to me and was like hey I like your videos I

wouldn't be like oh this person's trying to get something from me I'd be like oh that's cool yeah I did I never realized who watched my videos that That's cool. No, exactly. Yeah. It's tricky though, because it's a little bit of a catch 22, because I want more creator friends, but then feel that friction with reaching out. And then there's also the no one understands the specific set of problems except for people who are doing similar stuff to me. So it like be kind of isolating in that way or self-fulfilling prophecy or whatever that's a good question yeah that's interesting i haven't heard that before thanks i i didn't ask it but thank you jordan and i were talking about this um where they these questions sound like if you were a campus reporter and like a stand-up

comedian was coming to town like the questions that you would ask but how do you get into the funny zone yeah but i did i did want to ask about uh comedy influences because you know jordan and i went to your tour um and there were a bunch of very nice people who like did i know that what show did you go to uh we went to the la one i didn't tell you i don't think i just like posted on instagram after but but like we were i we have a bunch of feedback a bunch of notes it's a little late i will give you that but look the you know the shtick went on for too long uh curtis to stand up it was whack um so that's a note for me. Don't bring Curtis next time. Don't associate with that guy. Actually, that's an example of like, I wanted to reach out, but I was also like, I don't want to be weird, you know, and I'm not looking for anything by reaching out. Like I genuinely just

like want to support and see it. I think it's like really cool what you guys are doing. And I think you guys are really, you know, great. So and jordan just like flew under the radar or so we thought because then like a bunch of people like started lining up next to our seats yeah to like do to do like a little meet and greet uh or not a little meet and greet but there was just like a lot of parents going can we hey uh she's a big thing can we take a can we take a picture it's like sure man uh the show's gonna start i don't want to distract from anything you know what i mean like i wanted to ask about comedy influences because watching, I think the reason that I gravitate towards you and Drew is because I see a lot of like, oh, I speak that comedy language because it's like I was like coming up on Bo Burnham and like old school on the island

stuff. And like, well, so I was just like a big like SNL boy and all that shit. So I was curious, like what your comedic influences were, or is there anything that jumps out to you as like, this is kind of where my... For me, I have to try... Drew gets compared to John Mulaney a lot, I notice, but no one compares me to him despite the fact that I make direct references. A lot of the ways that I talk are specifically train myself out of because I like as a kid just in high school would speak in bits of you know from from things I liked you know

right so it's hard for me to say anything yeah yeah I mean I think that's what that's how you've you form your comedic voices by mimicking who you think is funny until you're just like this weird amalgamation of by design nobody comes up with their own language. You adapt until you come up with something semi-original. Yeah, that's one of the weird things about starting out, like trying to do something comedic is you either have to be like, kind of like a really bland version of yourself, or you can try to like be your idols.

And there's pitfalls to both because like you could be perceived as like copying someone or you could be perceived as like having no personality but yeah that's i i mean that's sort of what i try to do is just like take things take like aspects of things from people that i like and put them into my stuff and yeah yeah do you have any specifics though or things that maybe like sort of more during formative years maybe like a podcast you really like or like by two very nice boys who are not happy pretty much started youtube because of sad boys that's wow that's the quote we needed that do we have it all right cool thanks for joining yeah we're gonna wrap this up no you're i mean you're pretty much on the money with like

john mulaney and bo burnham and the lonely island like that I really just want to be the Lonely Island I feel like when that's like that's why I make music is because I'm like just infatuated with their music and I want to be them so bad yeah no I I fully I fully relate to this yeah yeah I feel like I get compared to Bo Burnham a lot too and I love Bo Burnham but I don't really know if like I feel like my music is a lot more influenced by the Lonely Island because Bo is like so much more like, I guess like analytical in his music, but I guess I am too. Yeah. I don't know.

He's very meta. He's very meta. Like we, we are, we talk about Bo a lot cause we, Jordan and I were both like big fans or are both big fans. And yeah, until the incident, I think that, I think think that like the the thing i like a lot about bow is that the met the meta commentary of it like i love meta shit like my favorite tv show is community and that was another thing that was like my sort of bread and butter was like like community in the office and shit when i was in like high school but bow is so good at like kind

of cutting through the facade of like like bow is making jokes about the parasocial relationship in his bit where like there's somebody who – this is like maybe 2012, one of his earlier things where someone is like, I love you on the live recording. He's like, no, you love the idea of me. You love the idea. Yeah, it's called a parasocial relationship. Anyway, please buy my merch or whatever. And I'm like – i just love the stuff that he's done with his career uh and every live show i go to i'm like this man is a genius how does this shit come out of his brain in regards to like influences in the music i feel like

especially when i'm doing like a commentary video and there's like a song at the end of it i feel like that's when i'm more like bo burnham me because i'm like analyzing something and that's part of the music yeah um and i think that's what Bo's really good at, but then like, I would never listen to like Bo Burnham in like in a playlist of music. Yeah, exactly. No. But like the thing I like about the Lonely Island so much is like their songs are like legit, like pop songs.

Yeah. And I have to say, you're making bops, Danny. Your outro song is stuck in my head right now. And I haven't even like i haven't even finished a video in a year uh i just like the idea that their songs can be so funny but so like i like listening to their music more than like some other like other pop artists yeah oh 100 like i just want to listen to something goofy yeah and it still has like a really cool beat front to back all of their albums are iconic also uh pop star and hot rod are like uns under celebrated criminally masterpieces we just watched pop

star again a few days ago because because uh we watched palm springs oh i haven't watched it yet how is it it's really good uh but then i was like i was uh feeling Andy Samberg-ish. So then we watched Popstar again. Jordan got me, for Christmas, Jordan got me a Connor for Real vinyl. Like, which I didn't know they made. But he got me the Thriller Also vinyl. Which is the funniest fucking shit in the world, man. I saw Jorma and Mike Birbiglia eating breakfast together in New York. And it was like, I was alone, like eating.

And then I just saw them both walk in. I couldn't see either of their faces because of a glare. And then as I got closer, I was like, that's, and that's, and then I had to like talk to them. And I just was like, I just, since from birth, I was loving you. Wow. Yeah. Yeah.

I saw John Mulaney outside of like a comedy club once and i was like too scared to go ask for a picture because i was like he's just gonna hate me and i don't want him to hate me forever but then uh someone i was with asked for a picture with him so i was like oh i'll get in the picture oh very nice yeah you'd be brave enough that happened to me with kumail nanjiani at like a New Year's thing in Oakland that he was hosting. And then I didn't ask and I regretted it ever since. And for a brief time, after I moved to LA, I had the same personal trainer as him, which was very – like I went to my local gym, saw his name on the – like saw this trainer, looked him up on Twitter. And he had like five followers and one of them was kumail and so i was like whoa interesting and then then kumail's body transformation photos

came out and he like tagged that guy and then he's like has had business ever since i was lucky i like like got in got in early but then covid and so i he still owes me a session i haven't even heard from the guy what's up dude where are you at maybe he's watching right now he might be watching right now what's up bro oh there he is all right jordan in the very least interrupted you enough a donation no i don't know anything to say i don't know i'm not insightful in any way i will just read your line off the script yeah like stop giving us stop giving us lip and just read your fucking line i don't it i it's oh daddy again and i just say oh daddy again i don't know what yeah i must have really been thinking oh daddy

when i wrote that we really shouldn't have printed out so many pages of script for jordan considering all he really it is a lot yeah we're kind of destroying the rainforest with this shit yeah i mean i would have printed mine out too but my ipad is out of ink so yeah and my nephew's oh yeah in school on zoom or something yeah thank you for doing it on papyrus though i mean that adds a lot of flavor to it what was my favorite material oh okay it's it's on papyrus and in papyrus absolutely it's very difficult it's in and on papyrus me and javis one of the reasons that we connected very early on is because we had so many comedic influences what i've noticed most lately because our careers but i guess especially mine with the whole partnership shebang at patreon oh yeah jordan's job at patreon for people who don't know was like building relationships with creators and trying to get them on patreon

um so he interacted with like a lot of creators through that space which has got to be weird but you know yeah mostly a lot of times hanging out with creators and them going i'm not sure about patreon okay i'm fine i mean whatever you want to do i mean same honestly i'm not here to bully yet i tell you what but i'm sort of feeling like late 2018 i might feel the same way i might get hightail it out of here i thought that i was kind of immunized uh to the whole oh i'm it's a creator that i like i feel kind of nervous and then more recently i've noticed that it is regardless of size regardless of influence it's specifically how they influence so my favorite comedy podcast by a country mile is sad boys but

my second favorite one is a hollywood handbook i don't know if anybody's found a hollywood handbook but it's a relatively small super insular community full of the same in jokes you know it's like any any small to mid-sized podcast and it is uh to my knowledge like a completely foreign sense of humor like i i've engaged with nothing quite like it it's absurdist but without being dull or like overly hashtag random south park experience i am so obsessed with and have been for years that i saw the influence creep in hit a barrier and then i'm just mystified by it like i'm unable to understand quite how you get into the like modus operandi of their comedy and when i saw them at uh at hollywood typewriter is that what it's called yeah yeah yeah it's so weird it's a different word

typewriter but it's a great venue in la and i went to a couple different shows because of their scale they always meet with everybody afterwards actually anastasia java's assistant that's like how we formed a friendship oh yeah she was on she was on that podcast because she was in big in that community so that was another thing that we bonded on uh in the very first conversation we ever had he's like i love hollywood handbook and i was like oh my friend was on that anastasia and then he knew her name and that was weird i was like whoa yeah because we're on an together because like we i used to do improv and sf and like uh me and anastasia were on a team together and i was just like the next practice was like hey i got a weird there's a weird british you have a stan also jordan and i have the same birthday which is very strange so we think we might have whoa

yeah i know i know you guys have no not the same year not the same year that would be weird no no not the same initials i had to check okay that took you a long time because that was like one of the weird things that drew and i realized like after like that joke had been made for a while that we're like the same person and then we were like then we realized we were both dg and we were like well yeah so like on our i don't know if you saw like at the back of our tour jackets they both were like our signatures but they're like exactly the same. Cause it was just like D scribble, G scribble. When we work together at Patreon, we would often get mistaken for one another.

We think because like people need more black friends probably. Because brown. Because brown. Yeah. It was a weird thing where it's like, we don't look alike really. You're not even the same nationality. Yeah. You would think, right? There's like we don't look alike, really. You're not even the same nationality. Yeah, you would think, right?

There's a lot of distinguishing features, yeah. But yeah, no, still, to this day, we've made this joke, and I feel bad for the person if they're listening. But Jordan got – I just – like I had braces the last two years, and I got them off. And someone, a former coworker of ours, messaged Jordan asking how getting braces off was going. Congrats, bro. This is huge for you getting braces off and it was just like oh jordan you handled it well you were like sorry i'm jordan have had braces hey no sweat i have a different name face and voice but i can see the slip up on that one it was also a reply to a story where i talked out loud which presents a whole new set well he sounds different without his braces on. Yeah, that's so crazy.

He's got a different head. Your body goes through transformation, that's what they say. What's the last question, Jordan? Let's make the last one. How are your plants, Denny? Oh, I should give a shout out. Abigail the Fail asks, how are your plants? I don't know if you guys know this, but

one of my big quarantine things has been becoming like really into gardening. Yeah, like at the beginning of quarantine, I planted flowers and I was like starting them from seed inside. And I made a couple of Instagram stories about that, but they all died, all of them. But then I bought some like fruit and vegetable seeds

and stuff like that. And then I was growing those in my basement and I bought like a growing light or whatever for plants. suspicious then i bought some like uh fruit and vegetable seeds and stuff like that and then i was growing those in my basement and i bought like a like a growing light or whatever for plants and i had that like in my basement for like a month and like a bunch i have like cucumbers and bell peppers and a strawberry plant and a blueberry plant that i've all got growing and i've since transplanted them outside so now i've got like a couple of cucumber vines on the side of my house and bell pepper plants. And the cool thing about strawberry plants is they self propagate.

So that I bought one and it's turned into like four since then. And it produces strawberries like every couple of days for the past couple of weeks. It's been really nice. But it's like a very adult hobby to have. My succulent is dying. So I have that going for me.

There's like a lot to it. We got succulents inside too and a couple of hobby to have. My succulent is dying, so I have that going for me. There's like a lot to it. We got succulents inside too, and a couple of ours have died. It's like, those are tricky because you don't know how much you're supposed to water them, because they're like desert plants. So it's like, do they ever need water? And then they're like, I'm dying.

And it's like, is it too late? Is it too late to save you? Even if you water them with the right frequency, I feel like you can still accidentally drown them the one time that you do water them just by giving them too much water. But yeah, so my plants are doing good. My strawberry plant's doing phenomenal. My cucumber and bell peppers, I haven't harvested anything, but they're just, I think I'm just about to take my first cucumber off the vine.

It's pretty big. It's like this big. And it's like hard. It's like a good looking cucumber. the bell peppers are getting pretty big too i've got a couple that are like that big so i'm just waiting for them to grow would you ever consider a uh autobiographical mixtape called cucumber off the vine or fresh off the vine oh shit that's kind of cool young yeah young kukes just whoa that was like a weirdness flashback. My AIM screen name in like fifth grade, oh, this is so dumb, was Kuke Larry, like C-U-K-E,

like as in cucumber Larry, because I really liked VeggieTales. Larry the cucumber is the cucumber from VeggieTales. So that was my AIM screen name. Damn, that's incredible. You know, it's amazing to get these kind of insights that you're not able to get on other shows. I know, yeah, you would never learn that. We forced that out of you.

Mine was Magic Jarvis because I like Magic the Gathering and my name is Jarvis. Mine was DonkeyCon, no G, 44, because I was really interested in getting a Donkey Kong game. Oh. I did not own one nor had ever played one, but I really like the idea of it. Still in that range, to be honest with you.

Oh, you've never played one still? Really curious about it still. Damn. Not a student throughout. I know you've already chosen the last question, but are you guys comfortable being approached on the street by people who watch your videos? Would rather be left alone i just thought that was kind of relevant since we just talked about millennia i am i'm totally cool with it um

the only reason i would be worried is not for like my sake because it would make me uncomfortable but i think that people i have this like thing where i always worry that people are going to be like really underwhelmed meeting me because i'm not going to be like I'm not I don't have like a funny written thing like I do in all my videos. Oh you're a comedian? Tell me a joke. Well I mean people yeah people don't usually say stuff like that but like I feel like there is this expectation because people don't always realize that like I write my videos. I'm not just like funny and witty off the fly usually so it's like I'm also like not that like extroverted. I'm not just like funny and witty off the fly usually. So it's like, I'm, I'm also like not that like extroverted. I'm not good at like talking to people really that I've just met. So

I'm always worried that it's just going to be like underwhelming for them. But I'm like, yeah, if you want a picture, that's fine. I don't mind, but yeah, I'm just not good at navigating that. They definitely won't be underwhelmed because I think that the funny thing about that is like to them they're so self-conscious about their own presentation and stuff you know like that they're like oh my god I did I do something am I doing something wrong you know yeah that's kind of what I've realized and it's kind of fucked up but I'm like I probably botched that interaction but because like they're so nervous they probably think that they're the reason it was awkward and so i could always cut free and but knowing darn well that like i was the one that made it awkward because i just don't know how to talk to people and then i feel pretty good

about myself then i say good good job me i don't obviously generally have interactions like that especially not with the youtube community but i didn't really realize that there was a big fan base for my dnd show and arcs arcs pod if you're available at oxford it's a great show jordan composes a lot of music for it he's a great dm well produced probably the best produced dnd pod this side of the mississippi absolutely you should check the other side there's a lot more of them and they are stronger but on this specific side being being the UK is the best one. I genuinely, I didn't appreciate just how intense D&D fan bases were. I mean, it makes sense because it's like a niche thing, but I'm not really, I don't particularly like D&D. I just like improv. And that was like

a fun way of making a story with improv. And there were a couple of occasions, especially like PodCon, not the one that we went to, Jov, final one way at rest in peace i find and with fan art i find myself getting very excited to the degree where i think it's making them uncomfortable it's like hey i did this pic of uh of nate's character check it out and like fuck yeah you did that this is insane can i buy a copy of this can i pay you what's your? Do you want to move in? Cause we could just keep doing these like that. That I'm not very good with. There was a couple of times on tour where I sort of felt that like we, Drew and I would do meet and greets and some,

sometimes people would bring us fan art that was just like amazing. One girl brought us like, well, she didn't even bring it for us, but she had a jean jacket and she painted the back of it like this beautiful like stylistic picture of me and Drew and we were just like like awestricken to the point where like

I almost feel like she was like not expecting us to like it that much and she was like okay well it's not that good but like whatever it's just like no come on tour with us show everyone else the jacket yeah you do a tour about the jacket you gotta write this into the show you just walk on stage with the jacket and everyone cheers and then you walk off stage i don't mind it personally i think it's just like do what you would do if you were approaching any random stranger like if you

needed to tell someone something hey sir your shoes untied or something like that. Like just be courteous because I think that the weirdness comes from when people are like stalky or like I've had situations where I'll be at a coffee shop. Like I would be at Phil's and I'd be like writing because I just like back in the day, you know, that used to be a thing we could do. Right. Sometimes I would have someone like kind of kind of sit like six inches away from me and like keep glancing over. And it's like, let's do this, man. Do you want to talk? Like, let's, do you want a photo? Like just stop hovering.

That's an uncomfortable situation. Or like, I don't know if other people developed it. I don't know if you have this, but like when I walk in somewhere, I kind of like do a glance around to see if anyone else like does a double take at me. Cause that's usually how that sort of interaction starts. If they're going to come up and take a picture is like if I walk into like a Chipotle or something like you know someone does a double take or something so I'm just like always aware of it and so I I feel like I've gotten pretty good at knowing when that's going to happen yeah um but then sometimes I'll just notice them keep looking over and staring at me

but like never come over to take a picture or say hi or anything and like then I'm like am I supposed to go over to them and be like hey it's me do you want a picture but then like that just seems like the douchiest thing in the world to be like alright I noticed you staring because then

they're going to be like yeah I was just looking at you because you have shit on your face or something the answer is yes. I am he with a capital H. No, that's very real. Like those people are just shy and it's in and I don't think we really have a protocol for like what to do in these situations. No, I would. I would totally do that, too.

I mean, I just said, oh, yeah, I saw John Mulaney and I didn't want to. Oh, yeah, I would. I would be staring at him all night and, and, uh, probably making awkward eye contact with him. Jarvis, have you ever like caught someone like taking a picture of you from like, without asking, like just from like across the room? Yes. I've also, the thing about shy people is that I've had a lot of DMs after the fact. Like, hey, were you at Project Juice? Like, do you? I was like, yeah, yeah.

But I've also had those near my home and those I don't respond to. I'm like, I don't want you to know where I live. I got pretty ballsy yesterday. I was in a parking lot leaving. Just say no more. When I'm the most ballsy yeah yeah and uh nice and someone else who was leaving the same place as i was i guess saw me and he was getting into his car also and he

was sort of doing that thing where like it looked like he might want to say something and he and i was sort of just like saw him out of the corner of my eye but then i saw him like take out his phone to like take a picture of me from a distance and as we were driving away I just like turned to his camera and waved ah that's good because I've always thought about doing that because that's happened to me a couple times where like I'll catch someone taking a picture but I'll just pretend not to notice and I'm like damn if I was really cool I would just I would just wave at the camera uh and then I finally did it yesterday and I felt I'm proud of you yeah that's amazing and he he seemed excited about it he was like yeah well yeah he got validation without doing the hard part i just think that the fan interactions are so funny like uh well i was just gonna say when i was in san francisco

last i was wearing a mask and got recognized and that was interesting it was probably like the hair or something but um one time i raised the eye patch. I, I, uh, ran into someone who started out playing it cool. Like they barely knew who I was. Oh, two, two times actually. So like one time I was on a date and, and then someone, uh, was like, oh yeah, what do you do? And then like two hours into the date was like, I listened to your podcast and I was like, ah, um, yeah, ah, yeah. So that

was like, yeah, that was weird. And then the other time someone, I was like, coming back from the optometrist, I just had my eyes dilated and someone stopped me and was like, hey, are you Jarvis? I was cool. They like want to take a picture. And they're like, I thought you moved to LA. And I was like, or no, no, no. First they were like, aren't you like Jarvis? I was cool. They like want to take a picture. And they're like, I thought you moved to LA. And I was like, or no, no, no. First they were like, aren't you like Jarvis or something?

And I was like, yeah. And they were like, I thought you moved to LA. And I was like, wait, you don't know my name, but you know,

like where I live. And then it was just like, uh, I, they're just like playing around. Yeah. Um, it was,

it was odd. And and then like um and then i got a text from a friend like a sis my uh my friend's sister that was like a text for a screenshot of like i ran into this dude like at the whatever so it's like they clearly like knew who i was but they were just like playing it cool and i was like that's adorable i mean i i don't think it's like they clearly like knew who I was, but they were just like playing it cool. And I was like, that's adorable. I mean, I don't think it's awkward usually unless someone's loitering without saying anything. No, the majority of interactions I have with people are like so sweet and they're really nice and respectful. And if it's awkward, that's fine because I'm awkward too. And it's probably my fault. If there's one takeaway from this conversation, know that if you ever have a bad interaction, it is your fault.

The nice thing about being in the position where people want to talk to you, it's easier to break the ice. Because if you like say, hey, and then they're kind of like, oh, and then it's like if someone's in that kind of situation, I know how to deal with that to like set them at ease or whatever. Before we end, Jordan, tell Danny about the plane, the recognition that you got that one time. Oh, that one time where a sweet young lad was able to recognize me despite the fact that my face, facial hair, and top of my head hair were completely different and I was facing away from him.

Whoa. It was pretty admirable, I'll tell you what. He was, for whatever whatever reason the video's trash he was watching the second video that we did together oh yeah whatever unfortunate man where my hair was cut short i effectively had this hair now you were blonde you look like a young m&m i was blonde i look like a young m&m if he was slightly taller and talentless and i was also i think wearing sunglasses because i was indoors and i'm cool and he was slightly taller and talentless and I was also I think wearing sunglasses because I was indoors and I'm cool and he was able to recognize me from behind and the way that he

presented it which actually I thought was kind of cool was he rolled up went between the seats quick poke don't do that quick poke I turn around he just goes is this you it's just hold up and hold up the video for a while as if i'd have to be like it is that is my face oh that's crazy um yeah good lad he's probably in his late 30s now thank you for for playing it cool i have an update for you jordan i just like the the other day i thought it would be fun to just ask people to tell me secrets on instagram and uh i was just like tell me a secret and i was very surprised at the secret some of which i can't share um but someone in there was like i approached jordan on a plane uh and they were like and i was so awkward that's what they said so it's like so that's the thing

exactly but that's the whole thing no one yes we're always thinking about ourselves it's also possible it was somebody else and i forgot because that's the whole thing. We're always thinking about ourselves. It's also possible it was somebody else and I forgot. Because that's happened on planes especially. Your demographic mostly is on planes, I think. They've got to go places. One time I met the same person twice. But like it was like... Right outside my apartment.

No, it's like... She said her name was Laura or something? Yeah, yeah. I keep meeting the same bitch. Like, no. So I was on a plane once back when that was allowed. And a girl behind me, like, tapped me and she was like, hey, you're Danny, right? And I was like, yeah.

And she was like, I met you like three years ago at Playlist Live, I think. And I was like, whoa. And she, like, brought up a picture. And it was like me and her at like from like a long time ago. This was like at this time I was on YouTube and back then I was on Vine.

So it was like two like totally different scenarios. But like we just like happened to run into each other twice. That's cool. Which is really weird. It's like a living time capsule. Yeah.

It's like she was holding tomorrow's newspaper. Thanks again to Danny for joining us today. I think it's like she was holding tomorrow's newspaper thanks again to danny for joining us today i think it's about time to call the podcast because we're just having a grand old time and uh we want to end on a high note yeah well thanks to you guys for having me hey man you're welcome do you have any do you have anything to say uh yeah i would like to say go check out danny's channel he's an up-and-coming youtuber and a lot of his stuff as i say is really starting to almost be good really problematic views on lacroix lacroix whatever whichever you prefer more of a hint guy myself anyway yeah uh you've got fucked up opinions uh i don't know

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