Sad Boyz - The Vatican Made An Anime Mascot

Episode Date: November 9, 2024

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Oh, Jacob, Jacob, Jacob. Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. I don't know why that cracked me up. Just did a big exhale. Jacob, Jacob, Jacob, Jacob, which is what we say before we start recording because it summons Jacob to the office. Oh, yeah. Oh, sorry. We forgot to bring you here. Let me just run into the bathroom and look in the mirror. Look in the mirror. Did you believe in any of those, like, I'm Jordan, by the way. Did you believe in any of those superstitions when you were a kid did you have a group of friends it was like you gotta

if you say bloody mary no i was closer to believing and step on a crack break your mama's back oh well there's something scary about all the intuitive ones that you have to be aware of all the time i'm like well it rhymes so it must be true i was a to like a uh debilitating level I was obsessed for I don't know the first like from age like four through

ten maybe twelve and still to to this day but like it's less noticeable very obsessive about anything I tap

with my left hand had to be done with my right then my right then my left for the first couple years I just couldn't play any like run around games yeah because I the steps were wrong right I was very weird with it and uh you know and yet look how well adjusted I I I do a thing

I don't even know how to describe it I thought about trying to describe this to someone before, but you ever like be, you ever be walking? It's about, what was I about to say? There's two types of walkers, you know? You ever be walking and,

Black guys be walking. Yeah. There's like a shadow cast, like, like there's a shadow cast on the sidewalk or on the street. And if I'm like riding a bike or if I'm riding in a car or something quickly, I will sometimes time my blinks to the beginning of the shadow and the end

of the shadow. Oh, like I'll like, I'll like go, I'll just like, or I like do, do like, i don't know why it's like an in and out it's very strange i um i have a little ritual that i have to do when i leave and um it's one of the things i actually i'm like very weird about not sharing this one so i'm gonna limit the detail because it's like a sentimental one or it's like certainly based i don't think it's

especially interesting but the the the crux of the point is that like there's one very specific thing i do it takes about like five to ten seconds and reciting tom mcdonald lyrics well i do that to wake up because my alarm is the instrumental right and i do his lyrics and i'm a white boy i'm mostly intuitive really positive sentiment to start the day with really but i yeah i do his lyrics and i'm a white boy i'm mostly intuitive really positive sentiment to start the day with really but i yeah i do this little thing and i am almost always late to the uber because i will get uh you know my my place is i love my place it's too it's too starry there's too many stairs yeah and i will start dashing down the stairs, get my shoes mostly on, and be like, I fucked it up.

And I dash back up to my room, do it again. That is always my first instinct. Get downstairs, shoes almost on, open the app, tap be right there, dash back up. That's a daily routine. I tap be right there, and I am not right.

I am not going to be right there. And that is one. I it's the adhd in me where i'm overly optimistic where i'm like i will be right there it almost reminds me of when i told my mom when i was a kid that i was going to clean my room in a second oh yeah and i was like it is the furthest thing from a second in fact i may never clean my room i think optimistically it's normal this is optimistically it's i'm gonna move before i clean my room in a second it's kind of it's almost like um like conceptual you know it's like at some point this universe or another i currently say in a second to dipper because he'll like whine at me about something like needing attention and i'm locked in a heated game of magic

the gathering and i i'll just say in a second and it sometimes takes minutes well dip is very pedantic so you say that a saying goes by and he's like i thought you said he does hit me he hits me with the human sigh where he just goes yeah he does that too or like the empty bites that shit is so funny it's very funny when you were teaching him to, because he's, despite being a big boy, he's an uncharacteristically quiet dog. Very quiet dog. And you wanted to teach him to, you know, do a yell in case you're not in the room to yell out. Yeah, I was trying to teach him to speak or to like bark on command. And when you're doing like positive reinforcement training, you are positively reinforcing a choice uh or a behavior that

the dog chooses to do and dipper never chooses to bark so there was a solid month or two where i was always ready to reward him for barking like and so he would like bark. And then I would just, and like you have a mark, I have a marker where some people use a clicker. It's like, I would go, yes. And then I would like give him a treat

because yes is like saying you're going to receive a treat. Get in, mate. Yeah. And I was, I feared that it could become a problem, but he's so not predisposed to barking that he just rarely makes noise eventually we got him to do it but currently what you're describing is if i tell dipper to speak he

will sit there and he'll go and then and then he'll go and i'll be oh that was a whisper because he also knows whisper and then he'll eventually go he'll do like a loud bark like just to like prove that he he was like charging charging his laser yeah and then and then i go oh okay you got there but he doesn't the only time i ever hear him use that bark in the wild in a normal day is if there's someone unfamiliar at the door and he's surprised by it. Oh, but he, so he does like someone comes to the door and it's not either.

He can't see them, but he knows that someone's there. It like definitely feels like a protector thing. Cause it's like very much like the mailman comes to the door type vibe. It's better. I suppose. And somebody breaking in the house, he's going, yeah, he's like, I'm trying to get it out vibe. It's better, I suppose, than somebody breaking in the house. He's going, yeah.

He's like, I'm trying to get it out, but I can't. He's showing what will happen. He's going to bite you, mate. We should discuss the elephant in the room. It's miserable. I'm trying not to make a joke, but it's fucking sucks. Yeah, so we're joking. We're trying to keep things light because uh everyone

a lot of people are a lot of people are hurting right now and i definitely want to acknowledge that i also want to acknowledge that like we want this space to be to continue to be accepting and empathetic, and also, what else? Well, I suppose if our focus is not on talking about the election, even leading up to it, we won't talk about it much. It's not because we don't hold strong values or support people that are disenfranchised, downtrodden, et cetera. It is more... It's not like we haven't like made fun

of trump which is a thing that you should do because he's a disgusting making fun of yeah but i i just want everybody to know that we're not most definitely not uh ignoring or not acknowledging and you know there's elements of it that it's it's it's not great for black people. So it's not, you know. It's not great for LGBTQ plus people. It's not great for women. That's what I mean is like in our case, though it is not great for black guys,

we are in a relatively privileged position. And I'm speaking more from a place of sympathy than empathy because nothing about this event makes me immediately with the exception of immigration stuff. Yeah, yeah i mean that's something i think about but even immigration wise my i'm at a level of like comfort where i'm not the target you know right and so i want to acknowledge it in a i am so sorry and i'm limited in what we can practically do aside from condolences, support. Yeah, I mean, well, I posted some resources for like LGBTQ plus people. And we can post those in the description as well as some other resources that we find valuable. But in general, like continue to want this space to be like, we do kind of speak

our values in what we criticize or talk about and how we talk about it. And obviously that's not going to change. And one thing that's also not going to change is like, I, I do believe that, you know, the name of the show is sad boys. We are, we, you know, it's like, but they don't seem sad. They're joking. But it's like, I have anxiety, depression, and ADHD. And, you know, you've got some stuff. I'm busted. And this show started, like when we started it, it was like two guys talking about their feelings and like i still stand by like

the value in that and letting people know that you know they're not alone uh in having those feelings no matter their identity hopefully it continues to feel like a a welcome place for whoever uh whoever wants to stop by and i don't obviously want to give too much of a funeral energy to it. No, I mean. But I do want to provide the like out loud, complete validation and support for people. Please don't think that your values, the advocacy to anyone who aligns with this,

the advocacy that you push for, the policies you to anyone who aligns with this the advocacy that you push for the policies you believe in the philosophy that you promote and support that please don't think that you just did not do a good enough job of yeah that's not the source of this it is the inaction on the part of uh the party it's supposed to represent you yeah it's not representing those views and actions and not advocating for them yeah and it's also just even on like a subconscious level just assuming that well this is right i guess this is i suffering's just my lot things like that you deserve better than this and uh though i can't guarantee how or when the i do genuinely believe that growth and progress will ultimately happen.

Yeah, I mean, I don't feel like I have a choice not to remain a optimistic person just macroscopically. I think that's how I'm wired, though, microscopically cynical. And just for self-preservation. Yeah, even for self-preservation and my own mental health, it's tough. I'm trying to manage both the external world and then

also my internal, you know, thoughts and feelings. So I just want to validate that, um, you know, uh, if it feels like a dark time, uh, you feel sad, you feel scared, like all those feelings are valid and, um, you're allowed to feel them. Like, I don't want anybody, I don't want to say like, Hey, pick yourself up by your bootstraps. You've got to, you know, I'm still personally, you know, it's like processing things. And, you know, obviously we have a job to do and we want to continue doing that to the best of our ability and continue to create the space that we have. Yeah, I didn't really have a plan here, but I just figure it's like something that we should talk about a little bit. Maybe it feels very silly to some people, but hopefully others feel the value in kind of addressing that. It was under Trump's first administration

that we dealt with a ton of immigration issues you know it's like one of the thing like so when i when i you know in terms of like how it's affected us in the past it's like the reason that one of the reasons that the show took you know years for us to do it in person you know yeah i got landlocked by the travel ban. Yeah, remember the travel ban? They shut down all the embassies so I couldn't get the new visa, so I was gone for two years. And then he banned people,

when you did get that visa, he banned people with H-1B visas from entering the country. So epic. Because the ways that this affects us tangibly or has affected us in the past, there's always going to be a worse situation. So I'm really just saying that, like, again, it's like sympathy, not empathy.

But, you know, we have also kind of run against this and it's had a very, you know, real effect on our lives and probably and absolutely will continue to. It's not just like we couldn't do the pot. I'm not like trying to say the grievances. We couldn't do the podcast. It's a little deeper than that. That's more the case study and what's noticeable. It's deeper than that.

Like Jordan couldn't live his life, basically. You were like stranded with no network of people around you. There are people being ripped away from their families and stuff like that. That is obviously horrible. And I never want to get into like a um oppression sort of yeah like an olympics kind of yeah which i i think is very i actually that's very validating i do appreciate you saying that and i i mean i also think we want to extend that out to anybody at any like like i think it's very very easy when something like this with such high stakes and universal implications global implications but like universal implications

uh it's very easy to deprioritize your own uh processing and acknowledgement and healing because there is someone in a worse position so i want to acknowledge that also acknowledge some of the you know i i felt very bad initially because it was one of the first things that came to mind when i saw the results and then i felt bad that that was one of the first things and i kind of redistributed my resources and tried to uh you know and then the second thing that hit me was fear for my lgbtq uh a plus friends that was like the second piece that came through because that's so much more obviously a threat and then i cascaded into well what about people that aren't even within my bubble and in the the kind of like ideological sphere that i think is much safer and in california and blah blah blah

um but i i kind of want to give not my license to give but i want to give license and validation to others in the same way you've given to me and say hey if even if this is exclusively like man now i just have to have all these shitty conversations with my republican family or something like that that is a completely valid thing to feel and say and and well it's very natural to be like how does this affect me yeah when you see people expressing their own head when you're not like because we are broadcasting we have a platform but like do like i imagine that every other individual in the world is you know putting on their oxygen mask before they help

others yeah yeah like it's just like, I feel like a natural response. So of course it's not like a sin to have thoughts about, to like think internally or think about yourself. So I just want to say if, you know, people are feeling fearful for themselves and for their wellbeing and their livelihood, like that is valid. Despite, you know, the themes of the show, we do try to keep things like a little on the lighter side where we can so we're just gonna like kind of pivot into whatever was whatever

else was going on this is like uh we we prepared this um our our show notes and stuff before the election. And then, uh, we had like a sick day basically. And so now we're kind of looking at this stuff and some of it is like, doesn't translate. So we'll probably skip it. But, uh, and some of the stuff like in the greater context of things, it's like,

okay, how much does the Logan Paul Ludwig drama really matter right now? Um, what's weird is that it's like it, it never mattered more or less than it always did yeah but it's i mean i the word you hear the most about it is like sobering like all of this it was very sobering and i i it's kind of a pet peeve of mine is when people talk about you know uh major events reminding you that there are major things i feel like that's not very sustainable

it's just like there are yeah you should bear in mind that there are things happening in the world even when it's not you know being even when it's not loud like yeah i think it's okay to acknowledge a lot of difficult things in the world where it's just it's there and you should be aware of it but you still need to shower and spend time with friends and because uh if you want to do something practical uh even if being practical is just advocating and supporting others like you said put the air mask on first and yeah uh well all that said i love you i care about you love you i care about you as well you seem a little better you have not been feeling great for a while you've talked about it brought on the show yeah you know it's been a bit of a it's been a bit of a mix and i'm only saying that based on like

i don't know i think i know you pretty well. I feel like I can do pheromones in the air kind of thing. I definitely am. Sometimes I have like kind of episodes of depression, I guess, is maybe the best way to describe it. I feel like maybe I'm like kind of wiggling forward into like out of one right now. And I'm talking like just chemical imbalance type depression. I'm not like, like, uh, and so the more annoying one.

Yeah. Because I hate it. Oh dude, I hate it so much because I texted, I, I, you know, canceled so many plans the past few weeks and kept,

kept telling people that I couldn't hang out or do anything. And, and sometimes I'm more honest where I'm like, Hey, I'm just like dealing with one of those like sad days or whatever. And they're like, did something happen is usually what people say.

And I'm like, no, the worst part is no. I think that, I mean, that's what's nice about, I think we've talked about it literally on the show before, but that's like you and I have kind of verbally made a pact in the past and have with a lot of the people we're closest to of like, no, like if I'm saying this, I'm not excusing anything i really it should not reflect on our friendship or level of care yeah i am not someone you i would want to be with right now right this is i would

rather in a lot of times that's self-imposed and a lot of times you know people don't detect it and once you got the fresh air in your lungs and you've walked and you've gotten to the bar or whatever you're doing yeah it's like sometimes it goes it's a little bit like um it's a little bit like just take a shower it's like well to do that i would have to get in the shower which i don't know if you're understanding the situation right now it's like that is the hard part i'm in bed right now i'm in bed getting out of bed and into the shower is the most difficult thing to imagine and i understand for some it's just like uh rise and grind you got to push through it blah blah blah and i think that those people just

don't have empathy for when someone feels like a immense sense of lack of executive function in action whatever i think a teensy bit of that honestly is is cope for their own sake it's kind of an if then where well if i'm operating with different hardware then things that i think are an accomplishment weren't that much of an accomplishment after all yeah so like my graphics card can run this game on ultra settings why why are you running yours on low same thing happens sometimes with you know like uh like mourning or something like that. Like it's very hard to get into that mindset when it's happening to someone else. And what you want to say is like, hey, well, things will get better.

But that's not, it's not the fact that things will or won't get better that's holding the person down. It's like things will get better in days, weeks, months, years, but seconds are still a second long. It's not going to get any quicker. I will say that like the way that I am feeling better this week is the past few weeks. So I'm still dealing with anxiety as I always am. But the past couple of weeks, it was like I was constantly shocked by my anxiety with psychic damage.

It was just like I couldn't kind of live my life without being like, boom, feeling that's going to make you just feel just completely down and worry. I don't know, like a month ago or something, you used the term dread. And I thought that was almost like, that's almost like the mythic level. Once you reach that, it goes from the hummingtonitis the dread of just nothing the dread is like is like what are we even dread first rationale second yeah and it's always like something that is easy to explain away because it's like it because you know these uh you know your mental health is not logical and you could and sometimes i can try to like logic myself out of a situation. Oh,

you shouldn't worry about this because X, Y, Z. And I'll go, Oh, okay. Brain. That seems reasonable.

And then boom shock. And it's all, it's almost like, Oh, I just used some of my energy. I don't have any more. I don't have enough mana. So like,

I just told I'm fucking weird comparison, but I just, I'm connected connected to this like paying the internet at an old house and i've literally spent the last two years trying to get off this fuck it's not even a contract every time i do it they just charge me again and it's holding and then i finally just disconnect to my direct debit not paying you this i don't live in england i'm definitely not paying for i'm paying for somebody's internet and then they uh they sent a creditor after me. They like turned it off.

And then I'm like, look, I've emailed support. I'm definitely probably sort of maybe going to get out of this soon. I'll just pay it. I paid it. And then they followed up with another one. Like yesterday. What the hell? It was two days after I paid it.

And I'm just like, but i did it what what is this it's like but i went to therapy and i had the conversation and i felt a little and now it's going well it's like i'm allergic to peanuts oh avoided the peanut oh you're having a reaction wait no i avoided it i had a version of that with, we had put like a job posting on LinkedIn. And so I paid for the LinkedIn business, whatever, I guess, and to do this job posting and should have canceled it.

Guess forgot. My credit card flagged it as fraud when it recharged me. And I also went to my LinkedIn and it was like presented as if my subscription was canceled. So I was like, okay. But the credit card company kept texting me, you know, is this fraud, call us.

And then they would call me on the phone also. And even though I had talked to them already and cleared it out i kept getting these automated robot calls and texts about this thing over and over again and it was driving me up a wall it's like what do you want and then i'm like now i don't have the energy to make this happen again yeah i mean like because i'm like i already what it's like the boss is a second form yeah it's like i just wait what do you mean i just it took me so long to do this we did the whole thing and then yeah what do you mean it's coming back for more i do feel like like like finance is the easiest comparison to the to the anxiety part because it is just like well i know i shouldn't be paying for this but I already capitulated and did what I could today.

Oh, dude. I'm taking the walk. I took the shower. Through no willpower, for whatever reason, just had a brief dopamine release and was able to get a minor reward for getting out of bed. Then I did manage to force myself to get into the shower, and I am seeing a 15% payoff in my well-being and then

i go upstairs sit on the couch and it's back i just i just did the stuff am i supposed to have another shower i uh unfortunately the biggest dopamine boost i got this week was going to vote because uh first of all it's not just presidential election there's a lot of local stuff and i you know i had all my stuff and i haven't missed i i changed addresses so i didn't get my um my vote by mail ballot and so i was just like i'm just gonna go in and i usually go in even though i have my vote by mail i'll just drop it off or uh and every single i not missed an election i voted every single election since i was 18 multiple times on the same election a lot of time yeah yeah as many

times as possible using fake names right all right um and i i haven't missed one because of the i've been in like a a darker zone with like no you know um executive function levels are low i was like worried that i wouldn't be able to like get over the hump and go in and this is a thing that i haven't missed and so i did it i like went you know 8 a.m in the morning or whatever uh to like a local school that had like uh had the voting stuff set up did it and got my little sticker like the accomplishment of fearing that i wouldn't be able to do something because of like my mental capacity at the time and uh scrounging up the energy to like do it gave me like a mile of of energy yeah i even posted an instagram story about how i liked my shirt i was like so jazzed yeah i don't even like posting on social media

anymore which is very funny because it just like nickel and dimes me for energy uh it's like chip damage yeah i'm like i'm blocking by opening the app maybe i'll see something fun oh i took damage yeah exactly that's like what it feels like and i even like so i know if i'm posting that's how i know i'm in like a good place mentally and then of course you know everything went down um i've not answered any answers from like the last five times i've ever posted an ama on instagram in like the last two years or whatever and i've had some people ask why i'm like well because i'd just done the laundry and i was feeling pretty pumped up about it because i was on a walk and then when i checked for the answers two hours later i wasn't on the walk anymore yeah i was sat down and i can't do anything the issue with like my energy levels are such that uh to your billing anecdote there is like some

premiere plug-in that i'm paying like five or ten bucks a month for that i get emails about every time i'm charged for it every single time i'm charged for it i go i need to cancel this i need to cancel this and i just don't have the extra I don't have the extra points of energy to do it. And that's how they get you, dude. That's how the subscriptions get you. But then the thing that will really keep the good times rolling is I haven't been doing my walks. And once I'm back to doing my walks,

and this is always, it's just like getting on the horse and like doing things that sort of give you mental energy and knowing what they are, but still not being able to get them because they take a certain activation cost. And like, you just don't have the reserves in the bank, basically. I paid for a driving course beginning of November, 2023. It has been a year. I took one class, found out I need to do the written exam in order to drive in anything but a parking lot and I've driven in the UK enough to not the parking lot is not useful I need to get used to like bigger roads that's what I'm doing

for and I so much of my life is limited by that it's my greatest non-like major regret in life is not getting a driver's license I think it is like robbed me of a valuable so many valuable experiences and right now i'm paralyzed like i do not want to pay 20 to go to the gym and 20 to go home yeah and so i've not been at the gym in seven years i think six maybe and i was so much happier when I did. Right. There are hobbies and hangouts and, and small little treats or getting outside or visiting things and taking road trips even potentially that I am unable to do. And the, I tried the written test once,

failed. And I have, I have had the DMV tab open for a year that and i i cannot do it to the extent where i like i'm like ashamed at this point it's the shame element you know what you mean the shame of like not having done something that you've like wanted to do that's how i feel about uh posting on my main channel i like feel right because it's been like a year and it's not like i'm not doing stuff but there's a certain like block there and like no idea is good enough and then i just get really in my head and it makes me really sad when i think about when i think about how little i've done uh and like it's like become very shameful like i

just i keep like, you know, using negative self-talk and talking, like making a joke about how I'm like bad at my job and things like that. Like when I'm saying that, I'm saying it as a joke, but it's like how I feel because I'm like kicking myself while I'm down. We've put a decent amount of hours into like,

you know, reconciling mental health stuff. And once you actually have like diagnoses and treatment and therapy and things like that, at least I found that like the big major thing I could do is kind of forgive a younger version of myself for the things I wasn't doing because now I understand what was holding him back. But it's like seeing a color you've never seen, you know,

you're like, Oh right. Of course I couldn't see. Right. Okay. I, the guilt, the shame element,

I feel like is the most prevalent when it's something you have been able to climb out of before. Oh, that's how I feel about health stuff. You can see the path more than like, it's not something like unattainably like, well, I'm literally not like tall enough to reach that shelf. I know I have to find a solution, but at least I can see why this is so

hard as opposed to like but i did do the written test before yeah what is you have done main channel post before yeah exactly the reality is there's a very valid reason that that's happening and it is the depression it is the overwhelming feeling and it is the dread because we saw jordan adeika do it we saw javas johnson do it now you're like fucking we saw steve will do it we saw ste Adika do it we saw Jonathan do it now you're like fucking we saw Steve Will do it we saw Steve Will do it

do it he's a Nelk right yeah he's like a Nelk crony yeah he drinks like a full handle of vodka I still don't know what the Nelk boys are

I've seen so many clips of them and there's that little boy they have they've got that one little boy they have a beer they have a beer they had trump on their podcast one of them can't stop smiling and they sit in a hot tub they do something i'm saying this is someone with a stupid podcast also well that's the thing we need to become gigantic stupid podcast podcast people but for a more empathetic crowd um okay wait okay let me shift shift modes um so how do they do usually like rogue and it's a little bit more like well they first of all

their mics are on arms and so then they uh okay yeah their mics are around arms and then do you ever think about how like maybe um apes are like monkeys too well they are yeah and that's why i'm like rfk jr's got like ideas that i think are being ignored rfk jr i heard he like um he like uh i almost said a true rfk jr story and it's so fucked up that I didn't even want to say it out loud. It's so crazy. They're all, like, violent. They are very violent. It's all in cutting stuff.

Oh, no, sorry, wait, we're a character. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking is, like, so a lot of the time I'll use ivermectin in my cereal for my kids, keeping them healthy. But, like, have I mentioned this? Like, what if a monkey was an ape? Right, and then, speaking of apes,e rogan recently had a podcast with elon boy is that guy smart you know i like that guy is that is that boy is he smart he's a smart guy how's this going jamie jamie look that up jamie don't disagree with me i'm like everyone good oh

oh no i'm jordan I've turned back into a loser. It's midnight. Now I'm a pumpkin. Pumpkin boys. It's me running along with my, for some reason, I am still wearing glass slippers. I can't do MMA anymore. A lot of people fit shoes. Yeah, that's true.

And also a face was the same. Is there someone out there who wears a size five? No one. Nope. One person. Not a single one. It starts at six. It's glass, so there's no give.

It's an exactly sized shoe. Yeah, that sucked. If I was... That's not comfortable if it does fit your foot. Do you think part of it was like, Cinderella was just like, wow, the fairy's done so much for me i don't want to complain about the shoes yeah i think i've made you this beautiful dress oh i turned a pumpkin

into a carriage wow i made you glass shoes oh fun wow it's like when you get a gift i don't know if i ever uh i think i have to have told this story once but um you know those bash years they exploded yeah one time at uh i this was i was maybe 12 i was at russell's place and we went over to his grandma's we went over to his grandma's for one of the days of hanukkah she didn't expect me but i i knew all of his extended family at that point because we like were like attached to the hip and, and she was like giving, you know, Russell and his brother and his sister, all their gifts.

And she's like, Oh Jarvis, I got you something too. And she just grabbed a book off the bookshelf. It was just about birds. She like gave it to me. Old Avian Johnson. It became like a,

a joke between me and Russell's entire family that I was really into birds because we just lied to her face. We were like, Jarvis loves birds. What the hell? The winged king. He loves robins and sparrows. And the rest. And all the rest.

Pidgeot, he's a big fan. That's a Pokemon. Nope, sorry. He likes flying beasts. Of all the kings of the sky. Charizard. All right. He's flying type. A lot of people think he's a dragon.

But yeah. So before we wrap up, let's do a little old fashioned looking at stuff online. A little bit of. We can take a small peruse. Just a small peruse. And specifically, have you seen the Vatican has a lot of problems? that stuff online a little bit we can take a small peruse just a small peruse and specifically have you seen the vatican has a lot of problems this is not news to anyone uh but it is very funny to me that they think

that a anime avatar is the solution i heard uh in the group chat someone say this and i thought to myself oh a typo surely what they meant is animated there's some kind of western animation style surely they said like anakin or some other thing it's not the vatican doesn't have an anime or it's some italian word for like felt yeah yeah meet Luce, the Vatican's first ever cartoon mascot. Oh, it's designed by one of the co-founders of Tokidoki. Luce will serve as the mascot for the Jubilee in 2025. Why do Luce's boots look bloody? Where have you been?

I think it's supposed to be brown, but it does look like blood. If it's brown, what is it? Is it different? Is it bug? Kind of weird also. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Oh, I see, I see. Hey, everybody, I was just burying a body.

As someone that was a whistleblower about the Vatican, so I was in charge of killing. That is why I'm wearing a raincoat. Is she Italian? Am I right? I don't know how to do it. What is she wearing? Okay, let's watch. Meet Lucci.

Lucci? Yeah, so like some people say Lucci, some people say Luce, some people say Luce. See, my instinct was Luce, but then I... Oh, we can solve this. Let's go to Google Translate. Make him say it. Luce. Okay, so it is Luce. Luce.

Luce. Okay, that makes... Now, hold up. Let's just say... Let's call them Light, a.k.a. Kira. Yeah. That's where they got blood in their boots. Well, this is Luce Yagami.

Oh, yeah, and they're going up against Eru. And that's why they're... By the way, that's why their boots are bloody. Yeah, dude. Death Note. It fell out of the Death Note. They actually do the dirty work. It poured out of the base. Blight is just writing in a book.

Luce is actually doing the job. Every single time he writes in it, it's like an animated figure kills them. Yeah. All the criminals in jail. Is this fucked up? Are we going to hell? Because it's the Vatican? No, but like they do bad stuff so

well but then one time there was the pope that said gay people were okay but then now they really pulled that back well there's often a new one I don't know what the current pope's situation is uh well didn't he bust out some

bullshit Italian slur I never heard before that was the equivalent of the F-slur? What? I believe with... It sounds like what you would think that was. Like, it did sound like... No way! Pope repeats gay slur in closed-door meeting from Reuters.

Wait, hold on, hold on. What is the Pope having a meeting about? Is it with Christ? There are Q3 goals preparing for the holiday season what feedback did you receive we must have an enemy oh my god wait she's wearing the exact same colors as lucia let's break it down let's break it down let's break it down. Let's break it down. Let's break it down.

And listen to the beat. Oh, you'll never find the bodies. Yeah, he booted them off a ledge. That's how she kills. It looks like a, like a, like a Funko Pop. I hope we don't see it in a jar. It is objectively adorable. Look at that.

That's crazy. Oh my god. That's a stand. Why does it look like he summoned her? He said it three times. He's like, we are harnessing the power of anime. What is that? Walking stick.

Is that like some kind of satanic fork? That's a weird image. Some sort of... I think that's got to be like a religious thing, right? This is Ramona Flowers' new gig. Yeah, this is bizarre. It looks really cool. Oh, that's the Vatican logo. Meet Luce,

the Catholic Church's official mascot for its Jubilee, or Holy Year, in 2025. According to the Vatican, Luce, which means light in Italian, is a travelling pilgrim. Her outfit has various symbolisms, such as her dirty boots, that are a symbol of humility and a long, arduous journey.

She is also joined by companions such as Faye, Sky and Aura the Dove, which represents the Holy Spirit. The Vatican unveiled the mascot in a press conference on October 28. These photos look like those Photoshop photos of Charlie XCX buying her own album at Target, where it's like they just Photoshop anything into her hands. This is the equivalent of that scene in that Robin Williams movie where he's looking at the evangelion toy yeah it's a good guy yeah adding that it was designed with the intention of reflecting pop culture and to bring a message of hope and welcome i'll tell you what i need a message of hope and welcome right now i don't know if this is it can i finally my pop

culture is being represented me both a devout catholic is the both this is like the hello fellow kids thing like um i'm trying to think of like a equivalent it's like your mom made an account on runescape to play with you the name is like mom they somehow got mom russell's runescape name his first one was cool brow and uh because he had a he has thick eyebrows and um and his brother's account was cool brows bro oh that's cute yeah uh i was uh my brows m-e-y-e-b-r-o-w-s as in the mine yeah so the people know yeah well was Magic Jarvis, so the people knew I was the Jarvis. They played Magic the Gathering. I think you're my bro's friend.

My bro's future friend. This is, when they say reflecting pop culture. What? They say pop culture has gone anime. Yeah, this feels like a cool nephew did trick the poke. Do you think, okay, the logo is doing a lot. Do you think they needed to put the cross in between the U? It's a bit busy, isn't it?

Yeah, like we know. And friends. And then an anchor, like for a boat? Maybe this is a hack bit. I don't know. But like, oh my God. Wait, can I get back? Catholics conflicted about Luce.

Well, they... Vatican controversy over Jubilee mascot designer has worked for gay pride. No! That's why he used that term. He's gonna start

busting out the word again. This isn't just for straight guys. That's fucked up. This is for me and the boys. They talk. Me and the boys love Luce. isn't that the fucking point though isn't that why you make things like this is to appeal to an audience that maybe felt like isolated from you initially doesn't work yeah that's why there's a black one he's put at the back though

like let's not get crazy he does have a guitar though. But I will say that dog is very cute. Yeah, that dog is cute. That dog should be advocate for the Vatican. Also has a cross on his bib. Oh, I heard he worked for Gay Pride, so we got to get him out. Whoa, put him down. Wait, let's see, let's see. So, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Oh, Italian artist, Simon Leggo. Oh, this is cool. Rome based in Tokyo. Dude, I bet they have a cool house Probably a bunch of big columns Yeah But also sliding doors Me and the girl

Wait how does the phrase go The girl they told you not to worry about Yeah me and the girl they told you not to worry about She's Wait is she wearing Was this for Rome she got a damn castle in her head and she does have italian she's wearing isn't she wearing like a a yukata like the oh is it kind of summer kimono is he doing like a hybrid thing where it's a kimono

but with the italian flat because that's neat yeah that's cool yeah good work simone simone wow look at us. Culturally exchanging. So there's also an inflatable. No. Oh, is that the real one? It's always funny with these big inflatables where they have like multiple tethers

to like keep them from falling over because it looks like they've chained them up because they're too strong. Yeah, they're too powerful. It's to block their chi. Yeah. Oh, my God. Our fault. It's to block their chi. Yeah. That is so funny.

That's the OP. That's the last thing you see before you die. That's Squid Game season three. This is the last. You know when they have like an ending slideshow after an anime? There's the OP and then the ending. This is just sweeping shots of her and then like fade-ins of the villain this is uh red light green light her eyes turn red and laser you she doesn't turn around ever yeah she's locked in place yeah she just she says uh green light and

and then just lasers everyone who's running but god smites them with lightning How did they get there? Because I guess Van Damme has marketing I guess? Yeah they got a marketing arm What is the victory at the end of the quarter? They've been losing interest from younger people

Well I wonder why? Probably no cartoons Probably no like animated character that is like wearing a crucifix but then also um oh i feel conflicted i feel so conflicted about that that's such a tactful way of saying i just am homophobic you know i just i don't feel conflicted because um well i hate gay people that's like a conflict that i'm having. Right. It's not a me issue. It's also a conflict that you're waging on a marginalized group.

Yeah, that's not... What do you mean you feel conflicted? You've chosen the conflict, yeah. Okay, go feel conflicted. I don't care. Don't say it out loud. I'm under the impression this is a temporary thing, kind of how they have like mascots for the Olympics,

but no one... Yeah, I think just for... Yeah. Do they always have a mascot for each what was it called Jubilee no I looked it up in 2000 they didn't have a mascot and the Jubilee seemed

pretty boring so probably that's why you know every 25 years every 25 years this is what they landed on that's so funny they're like usher in the new quarter century this is the only one that this pope will ever have. He will die before the next one. They should have just made him an anime version of the pope.

Press a button on the back. Yeah, see, I'm the guy for this. A Catholic. Right. I'm a follower of the teachings of lilith yeah oh there is also this which is funny i have the power of animate god and anime yeah that's dangerous i suppose that this is the the catholic version of a sacred katana or something right so can we go back to okay not this but can we go back to a regular picture of luce so this uh a a semi mascot that uh chooses a

adventurous art style receives mixed reception from its audience reminds me of a controversy that's happening in the world of magic the gathering can you google loot mtg lot mt and then space mtg this character it was like uh it's been all over magic twitter because everyone hates the design yeah um it's fun there's a tweet of like a um an orange smoothie and it said me after i put loot in my blender just because people hate this fucking card i mean they just hate this creature because they keep printing it and people are like stop trying to make this a thing they keep printing this uh character that one's cute that one's not really i hate it oh you don't like that look at its tiny little teeth that's fun he looks like

son the original sonic design for the movie. Yeah, I hate those little teeth. Would that work a little? Yeah, probably. Yeah, I think it would. If it was truly just a black void. Or if they did the exact Sonic treatment that they did. They just made it good. Yeah, they just made it good.

What is going on with this doll? What is going on with that doll? I guess it's got shards of diamond or something. Well, anyway, let us know what you think of loot. Let us know what you think of the mascots that are four letters and start with L.

We had every episode of Sad Boys with a particular phrase. Oh, we love you. We do. Thanks. And we're sorry. It's like a

counterfeit deck of Pokemon cards. Yes. But they have funny translated names like Big Tongue. Big Tongue. Big Pokemon cards. Yes. But they have funny translated names, like Big Tongue. Big Tongue. Big Tongue.

Super Dream. He just called Super Dream. And then Latios is just Latios. But someone overheard it and they didn't hear it was spelled. Yeah. Naughty boy. I do like Bump Self-Explode.

What someone did is all of the japanese names of the pokemon and translated them like literally into english okay like what what their names are derived from oh that'll be fun and so that's what i'm gonna quiz you on oh that's cool i like that now is it an issue that we're not, we're never wrong about stuff?