Sad Boyz - The "Very Demure" Copyright Controversy

Episode Date: August 30, 2024

Sad Boyz discuss a controversial Trump's new trading Cards, Bad/Corny Rom-Coms, and the guy who tried to steal "Very Demure, Very Mindful" from Jools Lebron. New Sad Boyz MERCH! Check out 70+ bonus episodes at: https://patreon.com/sadboyz Join our Discord ▸ https://discord.gg/Hw82Dhun4m P.O. Box ▸ 3108 Glendale Blvd Suite 540, Los Angeles CA 90039 Play Sad Boyz BINGO ▸ https://sadboyzpod.com/bingo Write To Us ▸ [e-mail] Use the subject line "Pen Palz" and we could read it on the next episode! Our Links ▸ https://linktr.ee/sadboyzpod 🎶outro music🎶 @prod.typhoon & @ysoblank 00:00:00 Magic Boyz 00:09:49 The Body's Memory 00:13:29 Be My Mummy 00:15:20 Bad/Corny Rom-Coms 00:25:04 Trump NFT Trading Cards 00:49:48 Jarvis Lives For The Drama 01:11:34 Very Demure, Very Mindful 01:28:09 Sad Boyz Nightz This episode was recorded August 28, 2024 Produced & Edited by Jacob Skoda

Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. I'm Jordan. I got a notification from my AirTag a second ago saying, hey, you left your bag behind, right? That's fine. I don't always take my bag with me. I'm so prone to losing shit. So you know me, I have AirTags scattered around, like beetles roaming around my apartment. And I get pissed off every time it does that. I bought them. I set them up to tell me. And every time it does that i bought them i does i set them up to tell me and every time it pings me i'm like oh i know i have a air tag on dipper's collar and if i get a push notification that says you left dipper behind it makes me sad i don't know as it triggers fight

or flight for a second right i'm like where is he is he okay he's driving the car what that's like uh when i'm away i get security camera notice like notifications about like when people are like when jacob and anastasia showed up at the um at the office while i was gone i got a notification about it i got a notification about it and i was like oh no no, someone should tell Jacob and Anastasia that we're not doing the podcast, because I'm out of town. Remember, guys? We had meetings about this. Someone used to tell them that someone else is breaking in right now. Yeah, and it looks just like them.

Look out, changelings. Yeah, well, no. They're every type, in addition to their other types. Oh, shit. We're already on magic time. I know, we gotta stop. Well, the one thing the update that i have is uh uh conclusion to my my saga this month i was playing a bunch of

doing a bunch of drafts uh in magic arena and i was just enjoying myself and having fun and then one of my friends sent me a screenshot of them hitting mythic and limited and i was like this cannot stand i also need to have that achievement uh a friend who i we i know you know for a fact is a very well-meaning good-spirited person and it is still infuriating oh it's like also because we just like chat a lot about it because it's like both of our one of our hobbies right now and so uh i was like oh i didn't know we were trying so then pushing up the glasses the past couple of yeah hold on um i didn't know we were trying oh my word you teleport to your laptop so then i had to do maybe one of the hardest things uh and i am the bravest boy

i had to play magic without listening to anything or watching anything on the side i had to actually commit my full attention to the game dude as of yesterday i know i raw dogged playing magic uh which which as of yesterday i did officially hit Mythic and Limited. So I know all the cards in Bloomboro. I've played too many Bloomboro drafts. Jacob, do we have the technology, does anyone at this point, to play an applause? Like super low bitrate, choppy, bad-sounding applause.

Yeah, there we go. Wow. It's almost like it's coming from inside the room. No way. They don't know. I understand. For some people, that we go. Wow. It's almost like it's coming from inside the room. They don't know. I understand, you know, for some people that's impressive. For some people it's not impressive. But for me, it's about committing yourself to a goal and achieving it.

And I feel good about that. And, you know, a lot of people were like, oh, like what deck did you play? Well, this is limited, so it's draft. So I had to make a new deck every time. Learn the ways so i had to just use my brain i had to learn the ways of the bloom i had to burrow i had to burrow i had to i had to become a changeling shout out to uh another convert that we've made almost like a a legally obliged convert to the magic way uh one of our editors austin austin officially bought his first commander deck so which is a fun thing to do to like employees because they have to spend money on it

i also because i am um addicted to the progression of anything in life i think anything where i can like improve i like start i have an addictive personality for that uh i've also looked into coaching for magic just because i think it'd be because it's like doing or receiving receiving like i want to get better even though i'm fine i want to like continue to improve uh and also just get a second opinion and there's just so much data and so many smart people around that i'm just like i had to teach me i guess i'm more of a giver i'm like an empath or whatever yeah uh so anyway but i'm also i want to bring everybody up with me.

So if anybody else. Send that ladder back down. Yeah, send that ladder back down. Send that. I'm on the helicopter. I'm like unraveling the rope. Ah, my head. The rope ladder.

No, catch it. Tom Scott grabs it. Tom Scott old. Tom Scott old, head of farm. If you. E-I-E-I-O. You're probably wondering. uh tom mcscott old head of farm if you uh if you jordan you're probably wondering why i'm in this field what does the cow say and i'll explain but first but first how do you do times but first we have to talk

about the dollar. How is it? You know, it's like, I lost it, but I had it for a second. Scratching his chin. I'm here at the top of a helicopter. And you're probably wondering, Tom, why have you chosen to do this? Probably thinking, what? You're probably thinking, why have you done this probably thinking what what you're yeah huh you're probably thinking why have you done this don't what don't come don't do it tom look out it's an attack helicopter

with a bunch of gatling guns that would be cool if he got picked up by an apache that'd be right uh the gatling gun why i keep doing the voice wrong we're gonna stop that okay uh how the fuck are you uh i'm fine that was intense how are you doing okay uh i'm fine i had like kind of a weird like we returned back from or i got back from a trip and then uh we got back from a trip then you went on we got back from a trip then i went on another trip and which was more or less relaxing but and really exciting it was at pokemon worlds and i talked about it on last week's sad boys nights and i have we'll talk about that we'll talk some more about that later in this episode but time difference was not severe but you know if you just get off on the wrong foot with sleep it can just like

continue to propagate i've heard yeah i know you normally you just like as soon as your head hits the pillow you're like knocked out zzz yeah i have a little feather that i'm blowing up and down right right the z there's very physical z's that escape your mouth yeah kat Katie in the head. Yeah, she's like, ow. Stop. It's so serene. But so that combined with me grinding in arena was a bad thing for my sleep schedule. And then we also like had some big film days right after we got back. So last night was the first night I slept at a normal time. I did wake up at 1 a.m., walk downstairs, chug a Coke. Respect.

And then I went back. I don't know why any of this happened. Went back up. I went, that was amazing. Oh, dude. That was the best drink I've ever had. It was something that I tried to get a different drink from like takeout or something the other day and they put like a coke in my bag and i just put

it in the fridge so then i went down to the uh i went downstairs don't know why i was like maybe i'm thirsty maybe i'm hungry why am i doing this like i wasn't fully conscious your eyes would roll back i was like at least i could figure out how the stairs worked i was like that's a concern if i'm like huge win yeah and then chugged the coke which i feel like it's caffeine why would i do that and then i went back up to bed this is 1 a.m and then i wake up the next time at 8 a.m for my alarm and i'm like did that even happen like what was that about you're holding the cat yeah still i've got like dried coke all over my face And I'm like what happened Wow Bloody footsteps Sticky footsteps

I had so much coke There was way more than 12 ounces In that can Yeah I mean I If you have pizza And then in the middle of the night you just wake up And have a bunch of water or anything like that Because of all the salt content you're so thirsty i i've been pounding liquid iv as i

often do so liquid iv you've sponsored my channel before come back come back i drink i use the product so much we have your packets over there we have our packets in our little like sad boys emergency station there's no branding on this bottle because no free clout but liquid iv it could be you i i could be using some other sort of electrolyte powder right now yeah well i mean i guess we'll say because they're not sponsoring us right now um if you just i'll i'll get i'm gonna get you oh you're so you um you're toast um i also normally i never reach out to brands but for brands that i specifically use i have no shame about it so i did send a message to um ultimate guard and i did send a message to game genic which are companies that make

uh card sleeves and boxes brother And I said, hey. We'll mount them right here. I'm like, I'm your guy. But they were like, we'll get back to you. And then another one said, we don't have a creator program. And I'm like, well, explain how you sponsor all these other things. Well, please.

Please, I'll do anything. Okay, because I use your products a lot. Yeah, well, do it, please, or I'm going to get you. You're toast. How about you? How are you doing? I'm all right. I don't – yeah, you know me.

Often not the sleep bastard either. I did have to – I had to call the UK a couple times times to do some like estate-related things and – not real estate. Yeah. I own the palace, I guess. Yeah. Well, I mean, hey. But I – some like wrapping up family estate stuff and I have to do it in the hours between like 3 a.m. and 9 a.m. our time. And even though I often will just accidentally stay up that time. I think something about having this thing I really,

that was going to be very like emotionally intense on the horizon, made the staying up, there was no catharsis in it. Like I'm just sitting there avoiding it, playing on the PS5, and all the playing I feel like I'm like, oh, my parents are going to find out I didn't do my chores or something. Like I'm anxious about it. But, uh, I don't know. I was doing,

doing my dastardly deeds yesterday. I was organizing a school card, you know, and I did some emails and I realized that anxiety that I feel very ambiently is not, I don't think it's because of anything. There's always the visa stuff. And there's often like a thing I have that I should be doing for that.

And often, you know, UK estate stuff, there's a thing I should be doing, but I don't have, it's like, uh, ever since I came back or ever since like the show has been doing well and

other things have been stabilizing and the fewer and fewer things to worry about. And obviously like being a doing full-time care is like that's you need to be on right but now i it's like there's that cav we've talked about it before there's like a cavity of stress the muscle memory of like oh i have this stress response yeah and so i'm having it but i am no longer having it in response to anything well you know if you get uh i know you've had it before when you hurt your back, it takes so long often to heal and do physio and stuff that you start to like

bend different ways to accommodate. And then you're completely healed and you still like, like I won't, I used to have like a lat injury from like 10 years ago that would just flame up for some reason really often. And that doesn't anymore but when i pick something up off like a desk i use my left hand i would never be left-handed disgusting uh but i i can do this now but i used to not so i will still go i'll go like careful when i whenever i walk up hills so so when – I like had like a lower back strain when I was training for creator class and so I was in PT a lot and – Pacific time.

Pro tour. I was competing in many magic tournaments. Congrats, dude. I was in physical therapy and the – first of all, like anytime I'm doing like – cause I've done boxing as exercise, like since doing that. And I have specific exercises that I do because of that injury. And now it more or less doesn't impact my day to day. But whenever I'm walking up a hill, I remember that if I feel like I'm fine, but there's a little bit of, or if I'm on a run, there's another thing where it's like, I feel like

I'm fine. But the next day it's like, I wake up with like a knot and like it's like not a really but it's more like a tightness like and and it is uncomfortable and it makes me feel like something's wrong and so i'm like whoopsie the the late 20s onwards like the realization that we've eclipsed what the uh lifespan was supposed to be for us. Like, Oh, this just starts happening. And then in 20 years, we're just like a big cast.

Right. Just wrapped up like mummies. Dude, will you be a mummy? Yeah. Will you be a mummy with me? Please be my mummy. Will you be my,

hold on. Wait. Have you watched Underwraps? Yeah. The Disney Channel original movie. It's the only ever uh i've seen that xenon and smart house okay those are two honestly the trifecta loved them under wraps is one of the weirdest fucking movies it is like for people who don't know the premise of under wraps

is that it's kind of a classic the kids befriend bigfoot in the woods but they've gotta hide him it's like an et style thing instead of something whimsical or fan fantastical it is a ancient egyptian presumably like god or pharaoh yeah that has been mummified and is you know you know rotting like it's not doing too bad but you know it can't be but it's like thousands of years old. Right. I mean, if it's one year old, it's unrecognizable. Yeah. And it's got the reps. And it looks pretty gross. Yeah.

But I think it's, if I remember, maybe I should check the synopsis. Correct me if I'm wrong. They have to, it is a, we're going to save the rec center style plot for some reason. That sounds right to me. I haven't watched it in a minute. They have to get the mummy somewhere by midnight on somebody and the mob is after them they're like trying to get up wasn't there another movie about uh a similar thing where it's like mom's got a date with a vampire or something like that oh geez uh wait oh that's a nasty looking mummy can you

search for mom's got a date with a vampire also they made under wraps 2 in 2022 a little late why go to under wraps 2 at that point wow okay that is a real movie that exists crazy who we look wait isn't that what's her face from z no she wasn't xenon was she no no she wasn't and then another classic not a lyric wait can we search for uh my date with the president's Daughter? This one I did hear. I've not watched this one. This one is awesome because it has a song. It goes,

My date with the president's daughter. My date with the president's daughter. Oh, yeah. My date with her. Jacob, go to synopsis if there is a slightly extended one. I want to see if I can watch that. Oh, I guess this wasn't a DCOM, was it? Or maybe it was a DCOM.

I'm not sure. Tagline, she's five minutes late. Alert the National Guard. It's a bad one. Hallie, is that how you say that? Hallie? Hallie, yeah. Hallie has a curse.

She's the daughter of the American person. Sometimes people pronounce it Hayley. But this is a situation where it's an English situation where you just have to be told. But Hallie is how I would pronounce that. I just want to have as much respect as possible for the first. Hallie has a curse. She's the daughter of the American president.

So it's a trailer, right? And to make matters worse, it's an election year. And then it's her doing this cause the president's being embarrassing and then the dog, her dog also looks embarrassed but all she wants to do is go out on a date. She's sighing hand on chin

and then rolling her eyes at her embarrassing dad. Fortunately geeky Duncan has the same goal. I thought his name was Deaky Duncan. Fortunately, Freaky Duncan. Ugly stupid Duncan. That's the X-rated one. Fortunately, Geeky Duncan has the same goal.

When they finally get to the date, however, a series of incidents could seriously damage the relationship and national security. They could damage national security. Jesus. Yeah. It's a really bad date. Whoa. They accidentally, they are kind of flirting and he leans forward

to kiss her on the cheek and then stumbles onto the nuclear codes. I mean, this is like real because didn't like Malia Obama like go on a date and they were like, um, wow. Really? As a president, you're letting your daughter go on a date? they were like um wow really as a president you're letting your daughter go on a date yikes uh not a good look yeah this is similar to the plot of uh red white and royal blue that recently came out on amazon prime whoa but it's gay and okay oh slow down okay because 2024 it's a little progressive And in this case, Duncan is a prince.

The prince? The prince. Of the English? Like the Fresh Prince? What? Oh, he's all covered in cake. That's embarrassing. Oh, let them eat cake.

Remember? Wait, let me. He's the prince of England. Yeah. Oh, wow. Henry. So, yeah. The son of the president and the prince of England are dating and they're gay.

Oh, but he has a rivalry. I love your laugh. It's so bad. But yeah, I think that was a prime original. Wow. And it was original. It was really bad. Starring Hunter Biden. Yeah. What's the tagline for that one?

Love who you want. It's a good foreign policy. That's pretty good. That's pretty clever. But it's the same construction as the other tagline that says, if you scroll back down to the tagline area, the other tagline, which is, love gets royally complicated.

That's a more classic. They're like, we're going to add a pun adjective to another sentence to another sentence yeah they also in the original one they put that that's a long line to be in cursive i found this isn't our place but you should start a series reviewing these gay rom-coms what did i watch recently i watched i think it's meet you in scotland this is by the way a movie that auto played uh yeah this is it is he is she old business business business and he's uh right oh he's wearing a kilt i can't believe by the way to our irish and scottish fans i'm sorry i mixed you up with one another neither of you want to be associated with this movie so we apologize yeah my. My bad. This is, I think, probably one of those direct-to-freevie or some shit movies.

Yeah. Bled box. Yeah. And... This is a fucksy original. And it is, like, so hard to watch. What is she holding? And this is to say nothing of the...

Everyone making the movie i always feel this way is is talented at their craft something happened and usually it's the forces of capitalism that that created a market for this thing that is is supposed to be bad uh because because that's just how it is yeah i mean there's no uh in the same realm as like um it's just how it is. Yeah, I mean, there's no... In the same realm as, like, what directing is. It's, like, bringing together all these inclusive parts. Did you guys see The Idea of You? Did we talk about that? The Idea of You?

The Idea of You. No, I don't think so. Misleading storyline. That's what the first review is. Misleading? I don't think I know what it is. Yeah, someone goes to the movie in the movie i felt really misled i was supposed to meet them in scotland yeah i'm at amc yeah hello is there anyone there

it's the weirdly like oh what's in hathaway movie wait from hold on sorry uh wait you guys want to postpone the podcast i gotta go watch a horny anatholite i have to go watch michael showalter's oh that's crazy michael showalter showalter jesus it's a bizarre match damn i guess it is a con remember michael and michael have issues yeah that was crazy it was a hater it's so funny i heard michael showalter go on comedy bang bang and talk about this and without looking at the movie i assumed it just you know the i wasn't picturing green deep bokeh background laughing with a guitar i was like a little bit more self-aware yeah a little weird maybe it is maybe it is well jacob cedar maybe it is it is weird oh it's weird but not in a good way uh yeah in a little bit uncomfortable

way okay well uh i can what's the hathaway though remember when people used to like hate anne hathaway online yeah did she do anything for that dude it was weird like it was like a thing where it's like come back around where it's like it started with everybody being mean anne hathaway and like saying she was like a b word and stuff and then uh and then to the point where people started being like hear me out and then it was a photo of like anne hathaway and i was like you are on crap what do you mean this is a deranged what do you mean um it anne hathaway in les mis yeah why did everyone hate anne hathaway in les mis yeah why did everyone hate ann hathaway yeah worthless reply i had no idea she was disliked really wait i do like this this is a classic reddit style comment really you don't

see why she's disliked she's a pathetic prototype of an asshole so wait so this is implying that she's not even good at being an asshole and And then they say beta. Yeah. She's a pathetic prototype. So she's a bad example of an asshole. She's quite nice. It's like Justin Bieber hate. Probably. I don't actually know if she's done anything horrible. I know I've tried to find out in the past.

It does appear like just being a successful woman in the world is what bothers them. But also, I mean, this, this list is absolutely correct. Jennifer Lawrence absolutely did happen to Sandra Bullock. So how about philosopher number 1784 here? That's a philosopher. Which says Hathaway is not hated for being a feminist, if she is one at all. She's annoying and thinks herself cute and smart, and she's cloying and irritating, okay? Dude, that's all that's going on.

Some people just think she's annoying. You don't know her! It's so wild to go on Reddit and be like, um, you don't get the hate. She is annoying. She bothers me. Look at her face. Ew. It's beautiful.

Everyone hates her. Everyone hates her because she makes me feel insecure. Okay? Yeah. This is so crazy. The consensus. I've been doing a thing, like kind of a, I wouldn't say it's like

a stimming action but it's like kind of a thing where i look like when i reset my face i like raise this eyebrow i go and i started to feel like crystal because that used to be his thing and tenders did we watch that on the show? I can't remember. I'm obsessed with these ridiculous clips of him at the Laugh Factory. They're so bad. Can we pull up... See if there's anything fresh. But I think it was on the Patreon that we watched the tenders. And I do want to get it out to the world.

Oh, we do. Yeah. Oh. Oh, he's suspended? The post is from a suspended account. It wasn't from... It was like an edit, though. I don't think it was...

I think that they had creatively edited him. Oh. Aw, wait. They clipped it. Normal guy. They dodged the smoke this time. This is like in Magic when you target a permanent, and then that permanent gets flickered or something,

and so it becomes an invalid target. Because when the permanent re-enters the battlefield, if it had changed zones, it's treated as a new object. I've been reading into a lot of magic rules lately. Like the extended rules. Or not extended, but the comprehensive rules. I'm watching a lot of judging videos. Just because I love a fun fact. And guess what?

There's a lot of fun facts in the interactions between weird magic cards you know lock me up is that so bad just because i killed well hold on i guess that would wait maybe tell more tell us more about that lock me up for that well you should i suppose you should lock you up but did that happen is that all right is this a confession uh speaking of trading cards confessions speaking of trading cards i did uh jacob told us about something in the meeting and i said no more i can't hear any more in this meeting we have to we have to watch it on the pod yes so tell me about this movie just kidding i don't care i don't care i'm just stopping like. I'm just stopping. Like a child. Yeah, you guys are going to love this, I hope.

Oh, okay. Whoa. Whoa, jump scare. Okay, so Trump is on screen. This guy's kind of like the president in a movie I just watched called My Day with the President. Oh, wait. Before we actually – I did want to say something. So we've had a constant consistent

beef with the yard um and it's completely real and not at all fake but uh one thing that i'm jealous of that the yard does is i think slime and maybe aiden or nick i'm not sure who but i know slime's involved they have a decom they have a decom like show uh on their patreon that you can like get their commentary with it and as someone who's like made videos about multiple disney channel original movies i feel like i want to do that for our podcast but now if i if we steal exactly that idea, then we're ripping off the yard. But what about all of the years I've spent? Tough titties, yard.

Yeah, I'm like, what about all the years I spent making videos about decoms? Are we slime man? It's all ours, pal. What are you going to do? Hey, you know who directed Smart House? LeVar Burton. He watched my video, video so i'm gonna ask him for permission he watched that video he raised me in his home he

raised me in his home yes and i i don't know if that's something we would do but it is something that crossed my mind to bring up in a meeting well i mean one as is that i've barely seen any of them so that is a good like and i've seen so many crossover point and i used to watch them all because they would just rerun and rerun and rerun i would watch meet me in scotland and look at ireland yeah it yeah okay so uh maybe this is a question for the audience um and also the yard can we do it i got a question i have look there's like years of me talking about dcoms it's in it's in the lore i've got a question for the yard shut up yeah do you guys have smart house on dvd because i do it's right there yeah here's my question how about

you leave go away from me yeah don't how about how about okay do you have my record double dash yeah i bet you don't i think that's your copy oh really yeah there's a few things in here that are just like yours like i think there's two copies of melee here and one of them is yours and one of them is mine that does sound like well there's like two copies of i don't know uh there's a lot of things that um you know some people lose stuff in the divorce i gained things in the you getting moved out of the country. Yeah, I was. Actually, come to think of it, who reported me?

Yeah, and then. What did you seek to gain? No, Jordan. I seeked to gain. Oh, that's right. Yeah. And I know I sought is what I should have said there, but for the rhyming joke. Seeked is more fun. Seeked works. Okay.'s right. Yeah. And I know I sought is what I should have said there, but for the rhyming joke.

Seeked is more fun. Seeked works. Okay. All right. And speaking of working, no one works harder. El Capitan. Than former president of the United States, Donald J. Trump. Dude, shout out to this set for helping me remember what country it is.

Shout out to his hair from being a perfect gradient. It is for it. Has he always been doing that? What changed? We talked about the Theo Vaughn interview, right? Right, right. I watched it back on the TV at home. And the way his makeup is just a perfect circle around his face.

And his hair is thinning. So you can see how white his skin actually is. Did you see the high def photo that got released of his face? No. Like a... It's... There it is. This?

Yeah. Oh, God. Oh! Oh, it's like a microbe. It's like... Yeah, it's like looking under something with a telescope. It looks like a tardigrade. It's like waterline and then his ears.

Like, just be white he's always telling us this hey your words that's what jacob says that to us without context all the time that was just be white we were reacting to black white yesterday and he's like leave him alone so actually now that we're now that we're mentioning it um now that i just mentioned it i brought it up myself uh we had a gold video just come out of uh uh the finale of black white our our reaction series that started a couple years ago so that's all wrapped up and today um so first of all you should check that out and then there will be a long form version of that that's the full reaction coming to jarvis johnson live dusting off that channel because

that's like where the other ones are and then uh today for sad boys nights you don't have to have seen the gold video but we are going to look at some of the dvd special features of uh black white which include but are not limited to all six episodes with audio commentaries that could be a project no uh no guarantees on that but ice cubes music video which we have seen before original casting videos i've got to watch those makeup application slideshow rose's poetry slam featurette which i'm like it wasn't the didn't i feel like i saw enough in the show yeah that's the last episode they were like wow we really got a story about rose's journey in uh trojan horsing a black poetry group it's more drafts of her first poem that's like

the kissing sucking yeah nasty sexy one and as well as study guides what um how to and here's the thing a dvd rom it gives an asterisk a dvd rom on a pc with windows 98 or a higher oh is necessary to operate this feature and then in all caps it says this will not work in a cd rom drive scanning so with that uh you can check that out on sad boys nights which is our premium patreon podcast that you can get for as low as five dollars a month there's over 70 episodes over 70 hours at this point of content uh you don't have to stay subscribed you can uh listen to it all and unsubscribe or you can continue subscribing which we appreciate it really helps us out but only if you're using your discretionary entertainment spending on it we

don't want you to break the bank for this it's just content it's at the end of the day it doesn't matter don't worry about it so that'll be uh today on nights we'll be looking into that and maybe we'll do future ones but check out the gold video let's watch this oh captain mcgaptain so this is on truth social perfect um i just i've never seen the true social website and by the way ripped to your already terrible internet recommendations jacob uh because you're all you're on truth social.com so i just want to point out how uh truth social is like more or less a twitter clone but having truth in the top left corner is like so funny um jacob would you mind re-truthing this post yeah yeah yeah you could re-truth and then if you scroll to the top it says truth details like because that normally

says tweet details and they just ripped twitter off verbatim truth the details the details about the truth oh did i just truthed it and actually you can check out the truth details if you want to. I think I could lie on it. I think if I was on the planet, I could figure out. What do they know? Retruth is so fucking funny. Like, you could not... Like, it's better than parody because it's real. Retruth it.

It's like a public company that's worth a lot of money that, like, I think lost a lot of value when Trump went back to Twitter. I know. Because they were like, this is the only reason people go to this website. Trader. Sorry, sir. I keep wanting to salute with my left hand, but I've heard that's impolite. Or bad, or something.

Oh shit, I just did it with mine. Yeah, sorry, pal. You didn't want to hurt your back? Yeah. The captain. Hello, everyone. This is your favorite president, Donald J. Trump, with some very exciting news he said that like in a very cute like child like way hello everybody this is your favorite

president he does have a the more he leads into his weird accent he does sound like a baby it's like a like an eight-year-old is like, and I'm your favorite baby. I tell you what, mate. I'm 30 years old. I haven't had that many presidents. Your favorite president? I mean, what? Four? That's not a great number.

Right, yeah. Also, I don't think any of them are my favorite. I don't think I like any. I'm a throwback kind of guy. I feel like the whole idea is that you like someone until they become president. And then you're like, oh, they're kind of complicit in all the horrible shit that we're doing so i guess we can't like them that much anymore i guess it's my favorite in the same sense that i'd like rather have chlamydia than gonorrhea yeah that's like hey don't get me wrong i'm gonna vote for what

i believe is right but i'm gonna complain the whole way yeah i don't like him by popular demand i'm doing a new series of Trump digital trading cards. You all know what they are. We've had a lot of fun with them. Wait, spaces are not valid characters in URLs. And they've clearly put space between collect trump cards

dot com. So no one watching this who's like, oh, I gotta collect the trump cards is gonna type that shit in the right way. What if it's saying collect trump and then it's cards.com right they somehow got cards.com america america first because that's just i feel like they just stamp random phrases this can be basically says like bazinga exclamation point did i do that yeah it's like bazinga collect the big bang theory nft collection today dude what is that collect sheldon's cards like um these are just ai right joey trump

is he kneeling at the super bowl trump digital trading cards than nft in parentheses is very funny because that's normally what you do with an acronym and i was like that is not what nft stands for nump numump trading sards. Trump digital trading cards are intended as collectible items for individual enjoyment only, not for investment vehicles. Oh, so it's an NFT that is not for investment. Well, NFTs are just the technology and it stands for non-fungible token. With a non-fungible token, you can track it on the blockchain. Steam. What's his blockchain Steve I turn red

what's his power of deafness oh yeah unfortunately this is a collectible card game and all you can do is collect no it says okay no no I'm lying it says collect there and it says trading there but there's no game unfortunately we've had a lot of fun with him

wait what the fuck is that one is he in hell like one set before this yeah on the left what's he doing first of all this is this is like what happens when he yeah well he's in heaven on the right oh i see and then on the left left, that's what happens when he's mid-transformation sequence. Oh, I see what it is. He does his magical girl pose. Yeah, he does his magical girl pose, and you see a naked silhouette of his body. He's the right arm of the Voltron. Right, right, right.

And then, yeah, he's White Falcon. He's got like a saber-toothed tiger situation going on. God, that's cool. It's like a saber-toothed tiger situation going on god that's it's like a power ranger oh that's sick um or like when he alts it does that too where he goes like i can't do trump like uh the power of the lion the power of the lion the power of the tiger like leaps forward it's a huge hitbox um donald trump digivolve too he He's like, use Saber Attack. You could do one Megavolver a day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he goes, Saber Attack, here it comes.

Biggest teeth you ever saw. And then, like, it's just like, you see the lion or whatever. I don't fucking know. It's called Trumpamania. Oh, cool. Oh, they have little names. And, yeah, the one to the left is called Crypto Payment. No, it says Crypto President.

Crypto President. Shut up. What? That's nothing. That doesn't mean anything. They call me the Crypto President. Fight, fight, fight. Is he in a nightclub?

He has like two right hands or whatever. Yeah, wait, look look the boxing glove has fingers oh yeah that's it's a ufc he does love his fingers with that thing it's like a catcher's mitt and that one just says trump it's almost like trump doing the fist from when he the the incident uh oh and then i thought those were pterodactyls flying they appear to be that's his teammates he's like mewing in 30 years viewing 30 years younger holding the american flag at the perfect angle oh my god dude i gotta say there is something i saw some like you know floating around campaign ads recently

and when i was growing up and i would see parodies of American commercials and stuff, I thought it was parody. Like, I thought it was heightened way beyond what they actually are. When, you know, I don't know, a show would have like a, it's about 30 rock, I'll have like a commercial in it and it'll be like deliberately absurd yeah right i didn't realize from a production and editing standpoint that is exactly what they're like it's like the product is crazier in the parody yeah but the the campaign ads really do have the like this is jd it's like a big x on him like it's's for kids. Tim Walls was an assistant coach. The weakest sperm. Do you want an assistant coach to be the vice president? Am I supposed to hate assistant coaches? I don't know what I'm supposed to be. You're supposed to be communicating.

I guess he was also in government though. Shut up. Shut up. Bullshit. Digital trading cards. It's really something. These cards show me dancing. Shut up. Bullshit. Digital trading cards. It's really something. These cards show me dancing. American warrior.

Okay, this is for sure. Wait, back up. These cards show me dancing. These cards show me dancing and even holding some bitcoins. Bitcoins. Just the too many apples or whatever. It's bitcoins. Him holding some bitcoins is him like,

uh, at a laptop, like giving a thumbs up, not, not holding Captain America shield. This is replaced with the Bitcoin logo. Is that allowed? Probably not,

but it would just be like one of the million, uh, court cases. Yeah. He's going to fight and win. He's a loser. His right to vote because Disney sues him. That'd be pretty cool.

I'm doing great things for my Trump digital card collectors. First, there's the real physical Trump cards. The fact that they're called Trump cards, that was good. Really cool. Honestly, it feels like that was where they started. Please, we've got to figure something out. It's so good. Yeah, they're like, oh, man, what can we do with the phrase Trump card?

I feel like if Biden was called like Joe Badgic, and it's like, we have to do Badgic the Gathering. Yeah, yeah, hold on, hold on. Wait, what is? Oh, also, J.D. Vance plays Magic. We have to address it. Played Magic. But he had a really funny quote in that it was embarrassing what he said. He had a dorky streak, including an interest in

Magic the Gathering, the fantasy card game popularized in the 1990s. It was, Vance said when asked, a phase. That's the thing he wants to distance himself from? Is playing Magic? I dropped it like a bad habit. The big problem with transitioning from being a 13-year-old who likes Magic the Gathering to being a 15-year-old who likes Magic the Gathering is that 15-year-old girls do not like Magic the Gathering, he said. So I dropped it like a bad habit. I was a 13-year-old who liked Magic the Gathering.

Loser. And I turned out fine. I'm just single. Oh, wait. Oh, fuck. But I'm vice... No, I'm not. No, I'm not even vice president.

Wait. But at least I wrote a best-selling... Fuck. Oh. At least I made an embarrassing movie. Oh, God. But I'm vice. No, I'm not. No, I'm not even vice president. But at least I wrote a best-selling. Fuck. Oh. At least I made an embarrassing movie. Oh, God. At least. At least I made some Oscar-beat bullshit.

Oh, well. I mean, there's nothing embarrassing about being into magic when you're 13. Distancing it. Distancing yourself from it. Being like, yeah, I had to drop that shit like a badass. It just doesn't care about anything. Sorry. There's so many things.

The ADHD attack. Have you seen the clip of J.D. Vance walking into a restaurant and trying to socialize with the workers there? No. Is he just being down to earth? Regular guy like J.D. Vance? Yeah. Wait.

Can we pull that up? Initiate J.D. Vance. The Zoom has come to town. Thank you for letting us come in here. Yes, sir. I'm sorry, babe. Okay. She doesn't want to be on film, guys, so just cut her out at any pace.

Use the Marvel people. Go ahead and rotoscope her. Okay. Okay. I'm going to hear a sentence. The game has your life. Okay. But it's'm going to hear the beginning of your laugh. Okay. It is shit. She doesn't want to be

on camera. She's talking. Almost two weeks. Okay. Good. Almost everything. Yeah, it'll be a lot of glazed here,

some sprinkle stuff, some of these cinnamon rolls, just whatever. Some fucking whatever cares. It's so rude. It's like when you go do because this happened with like i this goes way back right like oh i'm just a guy who was the president who like uh was it trump or who who ate pizza with a fork and knife and that was a whole thing uh might have been trump i know biden went ice cream mode i i buy one ice cream and the the even the like obama like

ordering i this has been a thing i remember way backwards like oh look at how charismatic obama is ordering a burger or whatever he's like you got a burger back there but it was like oh my god he's so charming oh yeah there it is oh right all right all right look i'm not that's like i what is different this is for some reason a thing that everyone does for like a, for PR and it's just so awkward. And then, you know, he's doing it for PR. And so he doesn't give a shit about what he's doing. It's uncanny because we know what interactions are supposed to be.

Yeah. I'm going to get a fucking glaze. What do you sell here? What are these? He just goes to a black barbershop. He's like, hello, homies. Dude, now, if you goes to a black barbershop he's like hello homies dude now if you went to a card shop oh that would unfortunately be relatable yeah you notice his haircut right it's bowl cut oh the back that bizarre like anime puff that just shoots out

like a pikmin look at cowlick all right yeah because all it's funny because i think people were making fun of this for his small talk just being like asking every person how long they've been there. Some drinkless stuff, cinnamon rolls. I know what things are. What's the point where his energy shifts? Because initially, you know, he tries to engage. He's like, I just don't want to be in camera.

And then he was like, I'll just take your fucking... Whatever you're going, okay. Give me a burger. Guys, just cut her out of anything. Cut her out. Just digitally remove her. I'm going to ask you some questions, though, just cut her out of anything. Cut her out. Just digitally remove her. I'm going to ask you some questions, though. Replace her with Chris Evans.

It's so funny to be like, hey there, I'm J.D. Vance. I'm running for vice president. Okay. Okay. All right. Cool. Cool. Okay.

The way he asks the questions is just very like off-putting. He could be like, oh, how long have you worked here? Like, how long have you worked here? It's like an interrogation. I don't trust you. He's like, why are you asking? Say it into the big box in my chest. He brought like the full secret service, but like, at least on this side, we can see like

a team of suited men. He's got his entourage. Almost two years. Okay. Just everything. Yeah yeah it'll be a lot of glaze here some sprinkle stuff about four years okay how long you've been here okay okay okay good approved so the only question he asks these people is how long have you been here

it's like he's it's like he's thinks he's at his own meet and greet yeah and like people like want to meet him that's the least follow-upable question ever because it's just an answer hey what's your favorite color red okay yeah good like these are not the owners of the shop they're just people who work at the fucking donut store go away and they're like i'm just trying to do like this is now added a complication to my work it's not fun i don't want to be on camera it doesn't pay me more money it doesn't help me pay my bills i think that this is relatable for the workers because like who gives a shit i'm running for american vice president i think that there's this like thing where it's like, oh, I mean, everybody must love hard American labor. Like, we're doing our jobs.

And it's like people are just trying to make ends meet doing whatever. Yeah, and he's down to earth. He gets it. I'll take some whatever you're telling me. I don't know anything about this donut shop. I can tell you that if you're going to go to a donut shop in Georgia, you absolutely have to go to Sublime Donuts. And that's the only option. How long have they been there um they've been there at least since i was in college how much staff do they have for me to ask how long they've been there how long have you been there somebody walked out from the back hey hey you how long you been there tenure

now like this is not a like a partisan thing it's just like this type of pr thing is annoying for everyone involved i know it's cause it's not like, okay, so let's say he goes in, it's a like little featurette and it's just members of the cabinet or something. And it's like, Oh weird. Like Obama used to do a lot of stuff like that.

It's like, Oh, it's cutesy. Always doing like hot ones equivalent or something like that. But that has the suspension of disbelief because it's like a production feels like TV, right? When it's candid like this, you have to be so charismatic.

You have to like have such risk. Who put him here? Someone posted a clip of Tim Walls doing a similar thing, which again, the construction of this is just like purely PR. And so it's like, whatever. I have not seen the Tim Walls one. And so I'm curious now. I think it's in the replies, Jacob, actually.

We really came just to go to runs. And then we did a little rally on the side but we had a little extra time if you don't know the iconic Nebraska restaurant is the Runza get this guy on tv for Runza thanks for the work you're doing matters appreciate it thanks everybody pleasure to meet you all wow the zoo has come down he's a very funny the zoo has come to town in a very dead pan it's it's like a bojack horse hey who's this no but you know what so there's a couple things that stand out to me one unedited content on bottom edited content on top i'm sure there's lots of dead air and awkward moments in the Tim Walls thing, but they didn't release it. It's short for it's shot on an iPhone as opposed to a Motorola

razor. Yeah. Well, this, well, we actually don't know because, because of how this is like framed this particular edit. So I don't know what it was shot on,

but it's like a candid, but it's at the very least on. Yeah. I don't know. But anyway, the, it also feels like he's like, has a connection to the community

and a connection to like a local restaurant jacob like lit up but he was like oh i know this place but the thing is it's like i'm i'm actually trying to be more fair than i need to be here but i'm sure jd vance has a place that he could go where like he has a connection to it and he doesn't just go who are you what do you do how long have you been here a place he's never been like literally he's asking for the wikipedia you? What do you do? How long have you been here? A place he's never been. Like literally, he's asking for the Wikipedia page of the business. You should go to the furniture store. He dates. It really is like someone caught him.

The zoo is coming to town. Hey, the zoo's here. Also, no other patrons in there because they kicked him out or whatever. JD Vance said he looks terrible. There's 20 secret. It was Secret Service. See, this is what I mean. Are they going to shoot the donuts?

20 Secret Service agents and 15 cameras. What do you mean? Vance said that his stops aren't scripted events. I'll say. But maybe they should be. Jesus, yeah. Because if someone shows up with 20 Secret Service agents, 15 cameras, and kicks everybody outside of your store,

that is not a visit, that is a siege. He probably meant circus. Oh, yeah. The circus is coming to town to make so much more sense. Oh, that's so fucking funny. Hey, the movie theater's here.

Hey, the moose is loose. Hey, guys, the juice is loose uh no sorry the circus is loose i've been talking to lots of friends and they're like i got off twitter it's like too toxic over there the only reason that i am still on twitter is because for some reason my feed is almost no politics it is entirely drama from small communities that in which the drama is like inconsequential to like humanity it's amazing that it worked the algorithm finally finally for someone and it was finally targeted you the uh uh because it has everything on that so i wanted to i thought maybe we could have a little segment um you know we have jordan's very important question we could have um jarvis's drama from something that doesn't jarvis's drama that doesn't matter

you live for the drama jarvis is inconsequential jarvis lives for the drama there we go everyone brew your tea for a second just want to make sure everyone's like what's a good steeping here's a thing we've gotten into magic uh after we talked about wizard sending the pinkertons after somebody for the march of the machines thing um that was for march of the machine it was for march of the machines and so i was reminded because i'm looking it was it was like for march of the machines the aftermath or something which isn't even a full set like the fact that that should happen is absolutely bananas so anyway wizards is often embroiled in controversy before that there was the 30th anniversary of magic controversy blah blah there are obviously we never and then uh

we never place blame on employees of these companies of which i know some people uh who work at wizards and they're wonderful people some of which i've actually known for a very long time there's a crazy story there but none of the ones that hire bounty hunters. Yeah, and also Hasbro is now the parent company, and so there's all these conflicting, confounding factors. Okay, so let's start. I'm going to show you a magic card, and I want to hear your thought process looking at the card. Is it one of the ones with a racist name?

Yeah, it's reparation. Jacob, can you search NADU, N-A-D-U? Oh, there you go. I have that. Yeah, because this search NADU? Oh, that guy. I have that. Yeah, because this came in Modern Horizons 3, which the set came out a couple months ago. Do you want to give this a read? It's a three drops. The 3-4 legendary creature bird wizard.

Flying. Creatures you control have, whenever this creature becomes the target of a spell or ability, reveal the top card of your library. If it's a land card, put it onto the battlefield. Otherwise, put it into your hand. This ability triggers only twice per turn. So when you read this, what goes through your mind? When I read this?

Yeah. Do you think this card is good, bad? The first thing that comes to mind is that I have thought about it and it might have utility in my Flub's deck because it's nice to – it never hurts to play things from not in your hand sometimes for certain decks, especially. I would say often. It's very good. And you're also retaining the cards in your hand.

Yeah. Well, because this is like a free better than a draw. I just don't see it. One of the first times I've seen the limitation, the trigger limitation of twice per turn. That's a great a great observation oh wait um whenever it's whenever it is uh twice is every creature has it twice per turn yeah not creatures yep every individual creature the ability that's right creatures have it not oh that's rough dude that's insane that did so just it's banned surely right well so uh not do sorry just to clarify for

people the reason we're saying that's crazy is that so it's already a good ability but because the creatures themselves have it as opposed to your battlefield or the player using it it means you can do this very good thing twice for every single creature you have if nadu simply said the instead of creatures you control you deleted that text and it just said whenever this creature becomes a target of spell or ability reveal the top card if it's only incorporated in your battlefield this ability only triggers twice each turn it would probably see some play yeah but instead it gives it to everything um and so um there's another card shuko s-h-u-k-o oh this is a kamigawa yeah so this is uh saviors of kamigawa betrayers of kamigawa yeah so this is uh saviors of kamigawa betrayers of kamigawa sorry yeah this is uh

betrayers of kamigawa uh-oh uh but yeah give this a read was it remind me the trigger was um spells or abilities dog yeah okay well that's just fuck this is crazy wait so so explain your thought process. Going back to Shuko, why is this interesting? Why is this good? Shuko is the way equipment works for people that are not super familiar with Magic the Gathering is that equipment can be played as a permanent that comes on the battlefield for its main price. And then you pay an additional price to put it on a creature of your choice. You're not limited to doing that once per turn.

That's correct. You're limited by the cost of the equip that is absolutely correct typically quality of the item or utility of it is kind of balanced by either what it costs to put it out and or the equipment cost yeah there is a handful of cards that can be equipped for zero but generally they have like limited or specific utility and they're only useful if you keep it on them so in the in this goes zero to equip and one notable thing about this that you left out are you can you equip to a creature that's already equipped with something yes okay Yes. Okay. So with all that being said, this card was sitting in a bunch of bargain bins. It was like worth nothing.

Out of a wallet. Yeah, it was like, go to Shuko TCG player, and then there's going to be a graph at the bottom. Scroll down. So there's a one-year tab on the bottom on the right. Now let's look at january roll over january 2024 i see a small spike actually so so this card was like a dollar sold probably had some niche play because uh i think it did have some niche play because of the

zero uh zero to target modification because it activates a it activates targeted ability so it's got play in anything that wants to be targeted there's lots of abilities of magic that when this creature becomes the target and if you can do that for free and so shuko essentially says one permanent repeatedly act be able to use target like abilities but this is good because i ordered um what i mean look maybe i was going a little bit i ordered 500 of them but i ordered it closer to may i think yeah so in may let's go ahead and look at what the price of it was i didn't check the price when i did that you didn't check the price because you you're you've

got it like that we just signed a hundred million dollar podcasting contract oh and so at its peak june 3rd i ordered it june 4th oh okay yeah uh at its peak shuko was hitting about it peaked at 39 and the reason is because as you highlighted shuko and nadu busted is fucking crazy so when nadu came out uh everybody was like this card's busted there was like some debt this is all by the way my understanding of someone who did not play like modern during this time um but uh my understanding is so there's this card called thos's oracle and thos's oracle is uh when it enters you look at the x top cards your library where x is your devotion of devotion to blue devotion is the number of blue symbols or pips in the uh cost of the. So Thassa's Oracle, when it gets played, it's by default two. So if you, for example, had a card that allows you to draw your whole deck with one interaction,

then you could go down to one card. And then if your deck was one card and you – I could be getting this wrong because, again, I don't play this combo but if if x is greater than or equal to the number of cards in the library like for example if it was two or one you win the game and you could choose to draw and do things as much as you want um so anyway that that was that's like a win condition for uh like mill decks and shit like that this went out and did not get banned and then it completely completely completely dominated and modern horizons by the way is a type of set that comes out every couple of years and it's very divisive because modern is a format that is cards from

2003 onward based on the introduction of the modern card frame so like there's the retro card frame and then like with eighthth edition and Mirrodin, which is like when your boy started playing as a child, that's when they introduced, they changed the card frame. That's the modern format. And the idea is it's a living format that really only gets changes when, the idea of it is that something leaves standard,

it leaves the standard rotation, because standard rotation is like two years. I think they're moving to three years. And then it can still have a life in Modern, some of the favorite, most powerful cards. But because Modern has 20 years worth of cards since 2003, it's going to be a pretty strong format. And so what they do is they release these Modern Horizons sets

with the goal of kind of power creeping modern and having a pseudo rotation in modern because the introduction of a whole new set of really powerful cards could potentially to the spirit of modern because you're printing a set that goes directly into modern and it's meant to upset the modern um metagame and so are you not essentially creating rotation because now you are releasing sets specifically to power creep the stuff that's already really strong so anyway magic on amsterdam happens a couple months ago and it's the first not to event and like most of the top eight is not do and then it becomes very clear that not do is the strongest deck in the format it's completely warped the format everything is either not do decks or things that directly counter not do decks and it is a bad idea to play a thing that counters not do because uh you should just play not do because uh you you

because not do is good against the whole field and the anti-nau decks and anti-nau is only good against not uh and so i might just be a real piece of shit and put them in the flubs deck and not tell katie so so wizards actually ahead of magic con was like heads up we're not banning anything into magic con because they wanted people they didn't they in their words didn't want to give people the fear that they wanted people to have a stable metagame that they could like plan around for this tournament and uh they didn't want to shake anything up once people had already started testing for the new format. So now it comes out.

It dominates. And it is dominated. And they were like, also they came out and said, we are not going to update our cycle of when B&R happens, ban and restricted list updates. And so then this card is basically making everyone not want to play the game because the options are play this deck that also it's got like lots of long and drawn out complicated turns and stuff and you've got to do this tracking nightmare of uh only two times per creature bans happened this week ban ban uh reveals happened this week and surprise surprise nadu is now banned just behind the shed just admit in modern uh it's not as broken a card in like commander for example because there's so much variance in commander and uh also you can't run four ofs of everything so you're just uh because that's the thing it's

like these things it's like hyper specialized to do this specific combo. I would say 50% of memes I saw out of the MTG Twitter were Naughty related for the past two months. And it was getting compared to Hogak, which was this other deck that was introduced in Modern Horizons 1 or 2, probably 1. And it was like a ridiculous strategy that had to get banned. But then I think for that one, Wizards like didn't initially ban the problem card because sometimes when they release new cards, they don't want to ban this problem card. They want to maybe ban some of the other pieces so that people can still play with the new card.

There's a controversy right now about the one ring from Lord of the Rings where it's represented in 50% of decks because it's a really good card, but they haven't banned it. And normally like you want to ban stuff that removes um choice from the game so like an example i would give is uh there's a yugioh card called pot of greed and it just says draw two cards that card uh there's no reason for a deck not to run pot of greed and so it isn't 100 of the decks so. So now the design space of Yu-Gi-Oh! is 39 card decks instead of 40 card decks because it's 39 plus Pot of Greed.

Why would you ever not? Why would you ever not play it? Nadu gets banned. And one of the designers, one of the lead designers on Modern Horizons 3 releases a blog post about how it came to this. And I want to show you the blog post. So right when you Googled NADU the first time, the blog post actually came up as a second result, Jacob, which is why I wanted Jordan to close his eyes.

So this is by Michael Majors. As the lead designer of Modern Horizons 3, I wanted to weigh in on our decision today, and it's called On Banning NADU Winged Wisdom in Modern. And then the second line is, NADU Winged Wisdom was a design mistake. Bold line is, NADU winged wisdom was a design mistake. Bold. There's a line here where he says,

the deck was beautifully built in a logistical nightmare. It's like a letter back from the front in World War I. Yeah. The journeys we're having in France. They show what the card was like in development. So it used to be one GU, they use U for blue because B is for for black and you know they both start with bl i've been using s for black and b for blue that's funny i should i g but but you yeah b for black

and u for it's not it's not obvious i'll tell you that why g g is green oh sorry yeah why u is blue u is blue because blue because it's the first different letter between blue and black. Oh, is it? Yeah, because B, yep. L, yep. U, oh, okay. Ooh.

So this version of Naidu says, you may cast permanent spells as though they had flash. Then it says, whenever a permanent you control becomes the target of a spell or ability and opponent controls, reveal the top card of your library if it's a land card. And then it has the rest of the ability. But notably here, your opponent has to target it.

Yeah. Which is a very different effect than you being able to control that. And this card is fine. Like, this card is, like, fine. Because other than you may cast permanent spells if they had flash. Now, they bring on contractors to do playtesting. But these contractors are, like, respected, respected like pro players and shit like that in one of these meetings there was a great deal of concern raised by nadu's flash granting ability for commander play so so the concern was for commander because you can reliably always have that card yeah because you could

reliably always have the card and uh and then they said after removing the ability it wasn't clear the car would have an audience or a home. Ultimately, my intention was to create a build around aimed at Commander play, which resulted in the final text. This is a huge line that makes people upset. Can you spot why? Well, because it were... Because what set is this? This is Modern Horizons 3.

And they're like, why are you designing around commander we wanted to work for pokemon yeah yeah no literally and so quite literally there's a huge controversy now because they're like people are like why are you like because already people are frustrated with like wizards catering too much to commander because the spirit of commander which by the way is a casual format that can be played with up to four players and most of the cards in magic history are legal but it's a singleton format where you can only run one of every card and then you run one card as your commander and that card lives in a special zone and it can always be cast from that zone and when it dies you can choose to put it back in that zone it's like a fun casual format that like i enjoy playing casually

emphasis on casual with friends it is also the most popular format of magic and it is one format that wizards doesn't actually uh do the banning banlist for it's a different committee um it's the government it's the that's actually the president's daughter yeah oh i have a date later yeah lots of vitriol about this lots of just people so mad about uh the fact that they're designing for commander which i understand because commander players will find a way they do not need specific cards catered to them but in in selling a product people want to make things seem obviously attractive to commander players and a product where like you're not guaranteed to get this in a given set yeah so you're more incentivized to buy

a lot of it and here's another line that everyone hates i missed the interaction with zero mana abilities that are so problematic the last round of folks who were shown the card in the building missed it too we didn't play test with nardoo's final iteration as we were too far along in the process and it shipped as is so they didn't too far along yeah because like you know like it takes like a really long time to like do all you don't ship it that's yeah literally just don't ship the car if you forgot to put text on it but it's too late i already did the artwork you know yeah yeah it's like then just don't ship it and it's like i get that it's like someone's pet because this guy didn't design nadu but he was the lead designer so he oversaw everything and uh it's like okay yeah just don't ship the card is like the obvious thing. I don't know what complication would involve there.

I do have a friend who has like the same job title as this guy at Wizards, who I've actually known for many, many years. High sorcerer. Yeah, high sorcerer. Keeper of the gate. Accidental opener of the gate. So I will say that like, i don't want any bad vibes going this person's way i have a lot of empathy and a lot of uh respect for people who work on this game that i love and uh but the drama is centering about you people are not focusing on this person

they're just saying wizards as a whole your process how could you let this happen and because it testers and everyone yeah yeah it's like what do you mean you didn't play test if you didn't play test with a card uh then don't how could you release it in good faith into a format where it's now going to run off and become the best card in the format and i just read you just showed me the text of the meet and i got it yeah exactly i'm not a you're not a you're not a player you're not a game designer no i'm a cool guy yeah you're just a cool guy you know sports yeah and i know where it goes and so uh back at the bat and so the other thing i had not who played against me in pre-release uh and now now i can feel like i can complain adequately pre-release for mh3 I played it in person, Paper Magic.

My opponent said to me, I'm sorry, and played too Nado. I was like, that is particularly rare to happen because there's lots of rares and you only open up a couple of rares in a pre-release. You got nothing personnel-cated. And then at the time I was like, what is going on? And this was limited, so he couldn't fully pop off. There was nothing in the set that let him go cuckoo banana style.

Cuckoo. Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. And still, I was like, man, that card's oppressive. And this person says, ultimately, their responsibility, and I respect them saying that and whatever. But the people are running away with we didn't play test as like people are screenshotting that uh because would you believe that this happened this exact thing happened 20 years ago no oh okay well let's move on this was a thing that

happened with skull clamp oh yeah and then they... Because Skullclamp's original designs were like plus one, plus one. And they were like, oh, this might be a little too strong. And so they put plus one, minus one. You can just kill with it. Yeah. Oh. This is banned in... Because it's a one-equip, right?

This is banned in modern. And it's not legal and standard because it rotated out. But it was banned in standard because of the artifact affinity decks that could this printed originally in dark steel which was my favorite set from my childhood and and so it's incredible in commander where it's still legal it's played in vintage where it's still legal because it's just a busted card and vintage it plays with like black lotus you know what i mean like some of the strongest cards your graveyard is in any way beneficial to you but it is banned in legacy because i believe the difference between vintage

and legacy is vintage is a one-of format uh where everything's restricted to one it's like most things are legal but you can only play one of the most broken is cards instead of four so i just thought that was wild that it's a similar thing has happened again what is playtesting if not what we're doing right now yeah it's just reading the cards there's a ton of cards but then but these situations are so egregious it's a card that like somehow slipped through the cracks and then destroyed a format yeah you're you're also, you know, wizards of the coast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You could do some magic. Double the budget.

Yeah, right, exactly. All right, so that's my love for the drama. So something that has been in the zeitgeist that we popped on our list today is very demure, very mindful. We have now officially ended the point at which I know anything about this. Because I have been hearing the term. Oh, okay.

And I know nothing about it. I've been... That's very brad. I've been extremely brad lately. And I've been living for the drama. Let's get it. And I do not... Escapadee.

Escapadee. Anyway, we're young as hell. We have Fortnite, V-Bucks, shit. My mom's going to pick me up later. I have that Lars Ulrich Metallica skin on Fortnite. That's how young I am that they for some reason have. I do not know anything about it. I've just been even more than usual kind of offline with this stuff.

I now hear things are bad. Bad things are happening related. Yes. But what is it yeah so we can watch the original perfect and it is very demure and very mindful okay well i'll look after that and the creator by the way just so we name them up top is jules lebron you see how i do my makeup for work very demure very. I don't come to work with a green cut crease. I don't look like a clown when I go to work. I don't do too much. I'm very mindful while I'm at work. See how I look very presentable? The way I came to the interview is the way I go to the job. A lot of you girls go to the interview looking like Marge Simpson and go to the job

looking like Patti and selma not demure i'm very modest i'm very mindful you see my shirt only a little chichi out not my chucho be mindful of why they hired you here's your reality check diva what's the name you'd like me to make it out to so in tiktok fashion like you know this becomes like a big, big sound. It's the meme of the moment, right? It's like everybody's like talking about it. I didn't even know what it is and I still heard about it. Hawk to a girl, you know, we had, you know, all these things. And much like Hawk to a girl, we were just talking about it.

It's like, let's have it so that, you know, when this happens, it's not just the, you know, young white women of the world who get popular off of these things. Let's not have, let's have people of color let's have you know like trans people be able to profit from their memes and profit from their output yeah and when everyone else takes it and runs with it you know what i mean like um because well i guess like the thing the nice nice thing i mean it feels weird it's a nice thing about tiktok or like nice thing about social media or whatever is that there's almost like an implied attribution now when you use a sound because it's in the system yeah well as long as the person that as long as everyone is being a good actor and and not re-uploading the video themselves and using the sound because it's not demure that's not

demure or mindful i mean another thing that can happen is like the charlie d'amelio situation with like the renegade dance where like a dance is pop or excuse me a dance is created by like a young black woman or girl actually i think she was like a minor or something yoink and then and then it gets yoinked no thanks by by someone who uh popular, has a platform, or even doesn't have a platform at that time, but their carriage of that message or form or content is what blows up. And there's little to no attribution backwards. There's not pulling down the ladder with it up it's pulling up the the ladder uh with you grabbing the ladder as they almost get one of the roads yeah yeah fashioning the ladder and then you climbing up it and then pulling it up and then uh

throwing the ladder away and saying it never existed yeah yeah and so uh he jumped up here uh and so this started out things were going well well. Hey, Bendeja, maybe you should make the videos. Maybe you should make the videos. Because one day I was playing cashier and making videos on my break. And now I'm flying across country to host events. And I'm going to be able to finance the rest of my transition. I finally said it without crying. That's really sweet. She was featured on rupaul

hey uh or on jimmy kimmel hosted by rupaul oh was it like is he like sick or something it's like a guest host gotcha we broke his arm again i spent the weekend watching this video of a very demure tiktoker and you know i love it so much i asked jules to come and be on the show so we tracked her down and here she is tonight what does demure mean to you i feel like demure is like a mindset i used to be crazy and out of control and then i found some demurity and along with that wait they gotta trademark that. Wait, they got to trademark that. You got to demuralize. Yeah, I'm feeling very demuralized right now. Put me in a good mood. Yeah.

Demurity? Demurity is my purity. A lot of celebrities have done the demure videos, including myself. Who was the most surprising to you? I think J--lo because she finally revealed what that orange drink from the block was so this is this is the high this is like we're we're building momentum right this is jules lebron's taking over why not let it just be good let's have something be good and uh thanks guys i assume that's the end of it and there's no

kind of sad prestige then it comes out that that she's unable to launch merch because her viral phrase was already trademarked and do we have the name of the person you trademarked because it was like trademarked like a few days ago yeah an individual named jefferson bates in washington State filed to trademark the phrase very demure, very mindful. So it's like very clear that it's like such a specific phrase that you don't accidentally have. Well, I mean, it could happen, you know. Yeah. Someone with the most fucking VC name I've ever seen in my life, by the way.

Jefferson Bates. He's hiding. So we don't know who he is, but this kind of thing is so shitty it's just so obviously but i think but but there may be there may be an upside but it's but regardless of whether or not you can get around this well let's well let's hear jules first like this this merch situation is like really like like fucking me Like, like I've just invested so much money and time into this. And I feel like I did it wrong. Like, I feel like I didn't try hard enough.

And like, like I wanted this to like do so much for like my family and like provide for my transition. And like, I just feel like I dropped the ball. Like, I feel like I fucked up and like someone else has it now i think that this is like um people who squat domains not for a business purpose but because like they want to get a domain before like i'm sure someone has already bought very very very mindful.com or something like that like yeah and like that that's so shitty because it's taking it's not it's taking it's not yeah it's not doing anything it's not like a good business decision it's just like just because you

can doesn't mean you should it's me pouring your drink away because i don't know right right oh it's it's uh it's it's counter spelling rather than yeah putting something productive on the board oh i guess we'll skip it dude yeah i do think that time is of the essence with some of these things and rather than you know like hawk to a like counterfeit merch was like immediately available you know what i mean so it's like i and i'm sure there's counterfeit you know very very very mindful merch and jules lebron and her family are not seeing that money and that's like fucked especially when it's yeah time is of the essence right because it's like when something

goes viral you have to strike while the iron's hot i mean she says when like she's saying when she's disappointed that she didn't trademark fast enough but the reality is like trademarking something really really quickly like that is only something you have to be at least have a part of your mind that is very cynically business oriented and it's expensive people should and it's not like i've looked into trademarking stuff and it's not like i snap your fingers and you do it yeah especially when i mean she's busy she's had things going on and and really like any chance you would have to do that whoever she's working with is going to take advantage is probably going to take a huge

portion of it it's probably like it's trademarking as just a like you don't it's not going on um go daddy yeah it's like oh i got it quickly i hate dude trademark ip rights is such bullshit yeah it's like an arms race like the only reason it should exist is because it already does like none of this should exist the the reason it exists is to protect people like jewels and it's only being weaponized against her yeah it's only it the argument is that it will protect people who deserve to have the rights to their thing right well like with things like copyright right it's like they're meant to protect the small artists but then like Disney uh lobbies

the most expensive lawyers in the world so that like the the the deadline for something going to the public domain is further extended so that Mickey, like so that Mickey mouse can be as far out of the public domain as possible, though that's like been less and less successful over the years, which is the hope that like the spirit of these things can be, uh, upheld and there is hope, but the hope comes in the form of a TikTok from a trademark lawyer.

Jules is going to be just fine. Let's talk about why. So first and foremost, we have a lot of time. The U.S. Trademark Office has just started reviewing trademark applications from this past January. Plus, it usually takes over a year for the trademarks to actually get registered, and that's if everything goes really well. A lot of the times it takes two years or more. The next thing is to be a trademark, it has to actually function, meaning that the trademark, very demure, very mindful, would have to be actually used in connection with goods or services, with products. Here, the application that he filed was 1B, which means that he intends to use it, but to get and keep the registration, you would

actually have to use it. He would have to be making very demure, very mindful merchandise or advertising materials. The next thing is the date of first use. The person who uses the trademark first gets priority, even if somebody else applied first. Jules' TikTok is very clear that she has been using very demure, very mindful in connection with advertising services. Her ads that are on there um her money that she makes from tiktok would all be evidence that jules has been using this trademark also going on national television and being like so this is the phrase that you do and it's your very special phrase and then she goes very demure very mindful and then we got me right it's steve urkel but he's not involved in any way yeah he says did i do that

i actually came up with that yeah not steve nope so yeah that's the hope okay we can keep watching this who told who wait how was she informed that the copyright had been put in place but not told what that means because well if anything is like related to the government you know how it's like they'll tell you no but won't tell you what. Hey, what's the next step in the visa process? Oh, there's one after this one. Yeah. So what, but what is the next? So he applied for advertising, marketing and promotional services, which is a very narrow class. This does not include merchandise, clothing, podcasts, anything like that. Also notice where it says attorney of record, it says none meaning that

he filled out this application himself i'm not saying it's impossible to get a trademark registered by filling out the application yourself i'm just saying it's a bit more difficult it's like representing yourself in court i don't know this person and so i could be wildly off here but this seems like such a loser baby no dude it's like representing yourself in court and you did it. Like, it's like, it's like, I've got it.

You see a meme online. Does this guy just go in? Like, is this the only one that he's done? Or does every time a phrase show up, he just goes and fills out the form himself. He's one of the ones that replies with an Etsy link. And it's like a Facebook style t-shirt with text or going further.

What's to stop someone from making a bot that just like does this for any set phrase whenever it becomes popular lastly this man has a history of trying to trademark popular slogans and i knew it he tried to trademark let's ride what a fucking loser tried to trademark let's ride and the application was abandoned he tried to to trademark, take command, and go Broncos, let's ride. And the applications were dead. You tried to trademark? Go Broncos. Go Broncos, let's ride.

This person does have the brain of a bug. An insect's mind to think, I'll be able to defeat the Denver Broncos in a legal sparring match. Yeah, let's apply for Joe Biden. Let's see if we can grab Hillary. Actually, Joe, I have a trademark on Joe Biden, so I'm the president. This singular guy is why the trademark office is so backed up. Because he's just submitting contracts every day.

Yeah, that's actually, that is a physical, that is literally called a denial of service attack. And it happens on websites and shit all the time. Oh, they just back up yeah yeah because like traditionally like a dos is like when you overload a web server um with a ton of computers uh or or a botnet or like yeah just a ton of um little bots yeah because the web server can only respond to so many requests at a time and uh unless you're at a certain scale or you have ddos protection or but this is a much more thing on the old internet where um like there was this thing called like the reddit hug of death where like back in the early 2010s something would be

on the front page of reddit and it would cause the website to go down because reddit was so popular and the web servers that were hosting some of these things were not prepared for all that traffic. It's just upsetting, though, because the very real distress that this caused Jules LeBron. Because we talked about with the Hawk 2 girl, it's like when all this stuff goes down, you don't immediately have all of the people in place like like if something goes wrong with me i have had years of building up the infrastructure to know who to call and to know who to direct these these things and then we can trust them if you do call right and so it's like when something goes crazy i would know who to reach out to hey this guy um what happened like that recently oh like when um there were like counterfeit Jarvis Johnson merch website there's a website called like maybe it's called

JarvisJohnsonmerch.com and uh it just so happened because of how the SEO of Google's algorithm worked if you typed in Jarvis Johnson merch it it would be like the second result. My real merch would be the first result. But still, that's going to be misleading. And so I knew who to talk to to get like Shopify to like take down their page because they were selling counterfeit goods that were based on designs that we owned. Yeah. You know? And so – but if I didn't have the infrastructure or the people to call, that's scary. like what do i do well you might not even think it's wrong you might be like well i guess i failed yeah i guess i didn't copy yeah because i i hate that like jules is going through this

thinking like i made all these mistakes when it's like no like you were just the victim of like a shitty actor i mean i didn't know that there were this many contingencies in the case of that application so i don't know why they would right uh also this is unrelated but this happened um uh low and no lay as well where like anytime someone tells me they're a lawyer it is like telling me they know taekwondo i was like oh that's interesting you could do that i thought that was just for like movies and so i know lawyers are so expensive and they charge by the hour. So I like need more lawyers in my life that I can ask stupid questions. We need to know immigration lawyers socially.

Oh, that'd be great. We need some homies. Because I would need one. I'd be able to be like, hey, level with me. Like over a drink. Like, why are y'all like this? That's a hopeful place to end it. It's downright demure.

We wish Jules the best. And fuck the rest. Yeah. Everyone in the world I hope does poorly aside from her except for her yeah so we are gonna wrap things up over here and head on over to our Patreon at patreon.com

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