Sad Boyz - The Willy Wonka Disaster

Episode Date: March 9, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. I'm Jordan. Ooh, a normie intro. You know, I never remember what I do. It gets to it and I go, oh, I say me. Yeah, I've given myself a little script and I just say that every, and I've said that for a million years. What's the total? We just got one full year of the Patreon, right? So that was like 51, 52 episodes or something. Yeah, there's like a hundred something episodes of the podcast now.
Starting point is 00:00:24 I think this might be 113. combined or main feed no that's just main yeah what the hell i know yeah it's a total like almost 160 that's that's that that means that there's like 150 hours of us just chatting that sucks that's crazy i mean that at least justifies those stats that people sometimes tag us in for Spotify-wrapped. Right. They're like, you spent two years listening this year? Yeah, look it, it's like longer than I've been alive. I'm like, how did you do that?
Starting point is 00:00:53 Interesting. He started listening in 1990. Yeah. I always used to hear anecdotes on podcasts that I listened to when I was younger and then be like, how are they making a podcast five years? I know. I don't like to think about it. How about it make 100 episodes i guess too much time is passing too fast but we're still like youthful that's true thankfully we've kept our we have discovered the fountain of youth it's my my knees still hurt when it's cold my my spine's no good but that's actually i'm young also how are doing? How are you feeling today?
Starting point is 00:01:26 I'm all right. I'm in a weird, I don't know how much of it is reverse placebo, but I'm pulling back on one of my medications right now. Ooh. Kind of like a bookend to a certain period of my life where I went up on my lamotrigine because I felt I needed it at the time. It was that way for a couple of yeah at max yeah and then it never even occurred to me that i could go back down nor did i really know what the incentive was and i just asked my uh my psych uh special k special k yeah i asked him just like does can it cause in any cases a kind of i don't want to say numbness um i don't know kind of acquiescing life
Starting point is 00:02:09 a little bit because i'm trying to pull apart the threads of right how much is just purely the regular chemical predisposition that i've had towards oppression my whole life versus what is conditional yeah which is the it's the chicken and egg problem it's like always the the struggle and there's all there's still that you know every time a session with me goes like well you're mourning and you're like right special k you're you got it again doc you just don't miss huh but there's you know there's always like a visa worry or something to supplant it into so i'm trying to fix sleep and and fix that and i associate the lamototra gene so much with little day-to-day nuances. Like the first thing I noticed when like I ran out back in the UK a couple years ago is I get a lot of physical withdrawal,
Starting point is 00:02:58 which most people don't. That's just kind of a bad roll of the drawer on that one. But I can't order coffees right. That's the first thing i always notice i'm a little mealy-mouthed and the it's not just a brain fog but it's kind of like that it's like controlling myself over like the cloud instead of right yeah there's like a weird latency yeah and i and yeah i can adapt to it and people probably aren't noticing as much yeah for sure the world but uh i'm feeling a little bit of that today. I don't know if it's just because I'm also tired,
Starting point is 00:03:28 but I'm happy about it. We've made the comparison before, but it feels a little bit like braces where it is not pleasant or good, but it's a step forward or it's something. It's like a marker. It's like a bookmark. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:43 And I don't know, a lot of other, I'm still riding high on Visa extension stuff true hosting something this friday a little hangout which i've been meaning to do for a really long time no i'm stoked about that get to renew my my my lease soon it's gone up oh hell yeah hey okay let's go well you do subscribe to the patreon um sorry we should say by the way yeah check out the patreon we just did an off mic additional boulders gate episode i felt instinctively i felt like uh i needed to get it off of my chest because otherwise it would take over yet another episode of the podcast so uh i'm sorry that you didn't get to experience that it's a a little thing called real-life friendship. I'm trying to get more episodes of that in a year.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Yeah, true. Got to get regular with it. For those who are following along on the Baldur's Gate saga, I have now started a second playthrough. And I am already 50 hours into it. This is our Spotify rap for sad boys. I do know that I finished the game, my first playthrough last week,
Starting point is 00:04:50 and I went straight into another playthrough and I'm already 50 hours in. Just started act three. But before we get into that, we have a brief word from today's sponsor, Aura. Aura is an app that helps you control what private information of yours is shared online. There is unfortunately a lot of information that can be found about you online
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Starting point is 00:06:00 Now back to the show. Doesn't that make any sense? The hour hours in. Because it, maybe it's because the game's very good and fulfilling and it doesn't feel wasted in a way other stuff does. But I, like all I did last year, I feel like, was play specifically Resident Evil 4 Remake. Favorite game of last year. Obsessed with it. Learned the speed runs.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Got really, really into it. And I checked my stats and I have like, you know, like 180 hours. That's a lot of, a lot of this game yeah there's a lot of this 15 hour game yeah and now i'm like oh it's just not even close like i'm creeping on like 200 and something on the game that i'll be playing at least double that i know that's the thing it's like i did uh i think it was like 113 hours on my first playthrough of Bowler's Gate. And then now I'm 50 hours into another one. So that's already 165-ish hours. I think it helps.
Starting point is 00:07:00 It helps being such an evangelical for this game because my closest friends are all doing the same thing. I actually, I don't want to. You're all enabling me i don't want to dox uh game dox any of our friends but uh privately a handful of our friends are all playing the game and i just talked to another friend of ours who was thinking about picking it back up again and i've been evangelizing it's uh it feels yeah i feel like a anybody that's not playing it right now is kind of like a lapsed catholic where if they ask most people, they'll probably just be like, I don't know if you need to go to church that much.
Starting point is 00:07:28 You can just do whatever you want to do. And then we're over here and we're like, well, do you want to go to hell? You should play. For those who are curious, I'm playing Dark Urge on Tactician again. I'm going to do an honor mode run after this, so I've started preparing.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I've started researching. Don't worry. There's plenty more hours to go preparing. I've started researching. Don't worry. There's plenty more hours to go. Don't worry about that. Don't worry. There's still more hours to go. And I've got my party. I tried to switch it up this time.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I got the main character. They're a bard, primarily. College of Swords bard. What race? Not species. Yeah. It's a Loth dr lulth drow um lulth sworn um british yeah it's essentially england femme femme drow actually with uh with like blue and pink hair oh and freckles
Starting point is 00:08:18 yeah and um and uh everyone's racist to drow in that game. I didn't fully... I was trying to escape from the real world, and everybody's like, huh, interesting that a drow would break up this conflict. Yeah, you got a paperwork for this car, sir? Yeah. Yeah, you get pulled over.
Starting point is 00:08:38 You get pulled over by, like, the night... the flaming fist or whatever. Hey, having a nice night? You been drinking tonight? Yeah. No, I just was, the flaming fist or whatever. Hey, uh, having a nice night. You've been drinking tonight. Yeah. Uh, no, I just,
Starting point is 00:08:47 just was at the bar, not drinking, sniffing a car and be like, I smell marijuana. Yeah. I'm smelling a corpse flower. Yeah. Corpus Colosseum.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Uh, the, uh, yeah, I've got, um, what's that? Is that night song?
Starting point is 00:09:04 Uh, I've got, so we've? Is that a night song? I've got... So we've got the main character, they're a bard. We've got Minthara. Minthara is... She's still a paladin, but instead of Oath of Vengeance,
Starting point is 00:09:17 I'm going Oath of the Ancients. And we got Shadowheart. I can't quit Shadowheart. I needed to go full romance, 100% romance, good ending. And you chose not to do that? In the first playthrough, I was improvising, so I made some mistakes. This time, no mistakes were made.
Starting point is 00:09:36 We have 100 approval. We've been dating since Act 1. Everything's going great. Look, it's a one relationship. We don't have to be so possess possessive or whatever I'll kill you though so I respect Shadowheart into a Tempest Cleric my first playthrough and I couldn't resist doing it again in the second playthrough
Starting point is 00:09:55 because it was so good I guess I would never tell her who to be I mean I did I did change her class obviously I know what's best for her but I am looking into um i'm just kind of getting getting more experience with builds and i might try life clare because i've heard it can get really strong um but i also having a paladin on my team as well like paladins
Starting point is 00:10:17 are incredible support classes so it's like i have a little bit too much support and there's the option paralysis of having that many fucking support spells just all in the same space oh uh i i'm doing i am doing some rotations because i i am running you know uh evocation wizard gale um because i i want to do his full storyline because i didn't do it last time but you know i can't have everybody on my team at once and I am enjoying my current thing so until I get to an encounter like when I did um when I did the uh the portal thing in act two the like uh tower defense little mini game like that was when I you know would bring out more of the the casters the balloons stage stage yeah um and then uh uh my biggest my the one that makes me the happiest i think other than
Starting point is 00:11:07 mentara is halson because i really didn't play with halson that uh in the first time and i did i'm not playing with him as a druid because i don't feel like it um but i i did class him into a ranger and i feel like rangers also have that nature and animal shit crunchy granola yeah exactly it's still it still fits but asking you if you like would go fruit, fruit and veg based. He's been my Asterion replacement. So instead of doing stealthy lock picky stuff with Asterion, I'm doing it with Halston.
Starting point is 00:11:35 And it's very, very funny because he's so big. He's like, he's fumbling with the Asterion is so small and like tiny, like, like little, like, like skinny guy. He's the size of a lock pick. Yeah.. Asterion is so small and tiny, like a little skinny guy.
Starting point is 00:11:46 He's the size of a log pick. Yeah. And then Halston's so big, and he's like, I can open that. Like seeing a bear play the trombone. Exactly. Or you sneak to hide, and you crouch a little bit, and it feels like it does something when you're as tiny as a stereo
Starting point is 00:12:05 when you're halstead you are still a big hulking man just slightly of other people like yeah lightly crouching uh and so that's been very fun he's gloomstalker ranger uh he's one of the only characters that's not extremely soy when you ask them to go back to camp he's also a thing you take for granted uh not uh doesn't have a parasite. Yeah, he's a tiny one. And so if you go, if you first approach Moonrise Towers, oh, this is a little spoilery. So just a tiny spoiler. If you approach Moonrise Towers for the first time with Halston in your party,
Starting point is 00:12:39 they're aggro to you. Like the game actually warns you. You're like, oh, you might not want to do this. Yeah. And then, but then I went without him him and then i brought him back into my party and then he just like they they don't aggro me because they're we're all surrounded by uh by uh true souls so to speak christians uh and but if halston is ever alone or you're too far from the group, the guards go, wait a minute. You're not one of us. You're so tall. And that does add for a fun little element.
Starting point is 00:13:15 So, yeah. How are you doing? Huh? How are you doing? You know, it's been a tough couple of weeks for me. Hive stuff, like, hasn't really gotten better. I'm going to try to go to the doctor this week. And that's just, like, taken the wind out of my sails
Starting point is 00:13:34 for, like, doing most things because I am, like, uncomfortable at all hours of the day. And so, like, the only things I can do are like my hyper focuses, which is boulderscape because at least that way I get like take my mind off of it for a while, like the physical discomfort. And it's been hard to work
Starting point is 00:13:56 because it requires me to like focus and then like there's so many distractions and I'm just like super conscious of my body and like itching and shit like that. But, you know, there's light at the end of the tunnel, I think, I hope. I know that it's like never lasted for that long. So hopefully, hopefully I'll be able to weather this in one piece. And then I have started trying to get back out there.
Starting point is 00:14:21 The highlight of my week, the rare non-boulders gate highlight of my week was that i went to a fallout boy concert oh yeah uh i went with um with uh nathan stands friends of the show uh rochelle stands shout out uh also alana pierce oh no frogan was there uh um the the whole uh what's the name of frogan's podcast a rrabs a the a-rab the the whole era you can't say that dude it's the the name of their podcast jesus the name of their podcast jacob bleep it when he says it but no one i do but okay but there was a funny complication there was like a fall boy show in la like kind of recently and i missed it and i was like oh i love fall boy i want to go you didn't know what's happening just didn't know what's happening and
Starting point is 00:15:04 it was like it was maybe them with another it was like a group of musicians like some sort of festival type thing and that wouldn't be my first choice of way to see any band um but uh I was like oh I missed it but then somebody was like well they're coming back in March and I was like okay great I'm down to go and so we ended up making like a group chat and then more more and more people kept getting added to the group chat and I think I was like, okay, great. I'm down to go. And so we ended up making like a group chat and then more, more and more people kept getting added to the group chat. And I think there was like a total, like eight of us or something. And someone was like, I'll buy all the tickets. I don't want to put anybody on blast because they, they couldn't have known. They couldn't have known. Uh, but, uh, me and Alana, I'll call both of us out.
Starting point is 00:15:45 We were like, hey, I'm willing to like splurge a little bit for like not bad seats. Like nothing crazy, but I don't want something horrible because I really do want to be able to like enjoy the show in comfort. And you know, that's like, what is life for? You know, like a habitual concert goer. You want to make the most of the time. I used to go to a lot of concerts and I don't anymore.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And so this is like, I'm like, this is going to be my first concert I'm going to this year. So, and I haven't been treating myself in that way. So, hey, let's do it. And then somebody was like, oh, don't even worry. We found tickets for $75. And I'm like, that is really cheap for a arena concert show. It is the cheapest, actually. The cheapest seats available.
Starting point is 00:16:40 It was at the Honda Center, which is like a hockey venue. But it was just like a gigantic arena. It's a cover band. But the thing is, yeah, didn't that, oh arena it's a cover band but the thing is yeah that didn't that oh that that's a uh community plot line where green day is gonna perform uh at greendale and then everybody keeps talking about it and then um and then it's uh these irish guys named green day we're green day um scottish maybe i don't remember it doesn't sound like that's scottish huh if they said that was a good i think i think that was scott yeah yeah when i did it i was like no it wasn't it wasn't uh irish or scottish but oh they might welcome to edinburgh time for the
Starting point is 00:17:18 festival so we we drive over there and it's just a good old time drive to Anaheim. It's like an hour drive. Went to pick up Alana, then went over to the Stanzas, and then Nate and Rochelle swapped off on the drive and just good old times chatting with pals. And I was like, this is a good time. So that was great. Then we arrived. We were all talking about eating a hot dog, eating a shitty hot dog at the venue, venue which is like a pastime you know if you go to a big arena sports arena
Starting point is 00:17:51 the food is always like off but it's got a charm to it and yeah it's like a slightly too stale popcorn yeah kind of where i'm like am i really about to pay like eight dollars for a hot dog that costs 20 cents to make max AMC's giving me nachos with I think year old cheese yeah uh but anyway I was so hungry and I was like fuck it I want hot dog and so we grab the hot dog we grab our drinks and stuff we we walk to the seats we we find them we are at the end of this, at the end of this row. And we see the row, we see the section. We're like, okay, we're in the right place, but we, this is not, you can't really see the stage. And I was like, maybe we have to scoot in and we're going to like, maybe walk along this row and get more like a seat where you can actually see the seats that we bought were behind
Starting point is 00:18:48 the stage it was like i have i have a picture uh well yeah because i saw a clip of you at the show is it that same angle that was on your story so this was the angle originally where that is the stage here here you can see that um you can't see yeah here i can't see and there's a monitor here on the left that's for that boy and that kind of in that like small yeah this was the main uh or actually no this is this is like right before jimmy world came out uh but then there's a monitor there that i was at least we'll be able to look at the monitor and it was there for the main who's one of the opening acts but but then they turned it off for jimmy world and so i was like now we actually can't see now it's like i'm in my hotel room next to a concert happening and i'm like hearing the sound music's not even directed it's not even directed i mean i'm hearing like a muffled version of everything. Yeah, it's one of those TikTok remixes
Starting point is 00:19:46 that's just like Universal Music Group re-releasing the same song, but slowed down through a wall mode. And one thing you have to know about me is Fall Out Boy is one of, if not my favorite band. You're a fallout. I'm, I, when they came on, their 30 song set list, I knew every song.
Starting point is 00:20:04 I knew the lyrics to every song. 30 songs, that's a good show. It was a long, long set list I knew every song I knew the lyrics every song it's a good show it was a long long show I knew it was oh my god but so I was like a little bit bummed but I was like hey I'm with friends it's gonna be fine and then me and Alana were sitting next to each other we were like kind of cracking wise at the situation just make making light of it And then Alana was like, what if we can buy new tickets? Oh, dope. And I was like, that's an interesting concept. Because some of our crew, like Roth and Frogan and people, they went and complained because the seats were not sold as obstructed.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Right. They were said that you would have a clear view, but they are obstructed, as you can see here um by the obstructions um but they were like we can't do anything about it so we were like okay let's just see because we were looking at the crowd and it there were tons of people there but there were clearly empty seats, right? But the thing is, if you go on Ticketmaster, the show's in progress, so they're not selling any seats. And so then Alana, I didn't have service. Alana was like tapping away at her phone
Starting point is 00:21:17 and was like, I found a row of four seats that are like in front of the, like, it's not like they were good seats, but they were facing the stage. They were like at the show. Right. And that was like the improvement. And they were like $150, which is twice the seats where you can't see, but still like.
Starting point is 00:21:42 10 times the quality. Concerts are expensive like ticket master arena concerts i can't like the real ticket price is like not that high but then you get hit with like nine million dollars in fees right and we were just like i was like alana i think we have to try to do this you only live once we're gonna try to do it uh she said like crikey crikey mate she said oh dude i think we found we found like we found a few seats in front of the stage of course for her it's the morning right it was the old show before she was like i just got up i'm she's wearing sunglasses yeah um that's a bit chilly out here isn't it yeah uh
Starting point is 00:22:26 she was a telepresence robot she was in australia so we ended up buying a row of four seats during jimmy eat world set like right at the beginning of jimmy world set and i I was like, if we can get this before the middle comes on and I can just rock out to the middle before Fall Out Boy comes out, this will be great. And then the thing happened where it was like,
Starting point is 00:22:56 we had to go on like a secondhand website. I searched on like SeatGeek or whatever and there wasn't really anything. But I don't know what alana did or how she found it but she she did and i said i said uh buy it i will split these with you and then we won't we won't charge nate and rochelle like like for being a part of our plot to because stans was literally at the edge like he was on the forest end he there was nothing for him to look at he was looking at like uh the empty seats actually behind the stage where like you could not like and there's literally
Starting point is 00:23:32 nothing funny as someone that when we were together sat right next to nate there is nothing funnier in the world than something annoying him but it was because he's so patient everyone yeah everyone was super patient and super normal about it and we were ready to if if this plan didn't work out whatever we'll make the best of it but it was like it was fun to have a little plan to try to make you know try to make something happen and then have the story right and so uh we got the tickets and then it took a second for like the tickets to process because of a second it was like through a secondary like secondhand website and so we didn't have the qr codes and stuff and we weren't sure when they were gonna like alon was gonna get the confirmation emails
Starting point is 00:24:13 and we were like well those seats are gonna be empty and we know what the numbers of the seats so we can just start heading over there so let me start and roguish behavior which is okay we start trying to make our way to the seats and now this definitely would not have happened if uh it was in the intermission of between bands but because we were the only people like outside like in the halls during during this part every security person wanted to give us like the whole nine yards about like where are you going what's your what's your like a drow yeah literally they were like what are you doing around here shouldn't you be in the underdark what the hell is lolth with you yeah uh and and then alana didn't have the
Starting point is 00:24:58 didn't have the qr codes yet um or the the barcodes and it's gonna come all the way from australia yeah it took a while yeah and she was like pulling it up and then she pulls up a parking pass because apparently she bought something that included a parking pass just like the person was like I'm just getting rid of these and it's the day of the show so literally it was like that person like I don't I don't know why they didn't sell them for cheaper it's like like, they're at the show. There should be a service. I mean, there kind of is,
Starting point is 00:25:26 but like for someone who's like the show's happening and someone is sitting in the worst seats in the house, like just give them your fucking tickets. Um, but anyway, okay. The other thing is the other thing I'll complain about is, uh,
Starting point is 00:25:39 in that moment we were like, it is representative of like the capitalist greed that they even sell these seats you know what i mean oh yeah these seats should not even be available yeah because presumably they well i guess they're there because people bought by them but they're like i guess sometimes there's you know like a chapelle show where he walks to the center of the arena or something but for any music show that's not gonna work it was well it was show where he walks to the center of the arena or something but for any music show that's not gonna work it was well it was like they roped off the back of the stage you know like the stuff that's actually behind the stage and we were like next to that so it was
Starting point is 00:26:14 like they just you would be looking at the crew yeah and like the entourage yeah and we did uh we could see kind of the drummer a little bit you know what i mean and um that's jimmy and it's fine and and it's fine and again i can't stress enough that if it had been this it would have just been a funny story but uh we eventually like got some goodwill from a few of the security guards and stuff and they finally we finally like got let into the new the new spot and the new seats again they were you know high up it wasn't like they were uh spectacular but they're not the show the the difference this is with a little bit of zoom by the way oh well i mean yeah so that's a show now we're at the concert that's a very normal seat yeah and there were tons of empty seats around us.
Starting point is 00:27:07 And it wasn't like, it was like full enough, obviously, like if you're looking out. But if you were looking for seats, I'm like, okay, there are seats. I don't understand why we couldn't just do some, everybody scooch over a little bit, you know, type thing. How long was the show in total? Oh, my God. Because that's always my issue is fatigue.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Well, this was sitting down so i have a little bit more energy for sitting down i'm just thinking about baldus game this show i was um so jimmy world went on for like an hour then like fall boy was out for like a couple hour like i feel like it was like two hours it was like a 30 song set it was incredible though like like uh the visuals were really cool the set list included tons of old songs that i've never heard them play live before including some of like my favorite songs there's a point where i like nearly cried where i was just like excited to be like able to hear some of the stuff from like take this to your grave nostalgia is like a very interesting emotion because you know in theory evolution's driven us towards having certain feelings for practical reasons right like guilt is for learning and happiness is for
Starting point is 00:28:19 encouragement for good behaviors and like we enjoy the taste of fruit because it used to be scarcity and we need the nutrients blah blah blah right and i do think there's like nostalgia is such a nebulous one because it's not that everything is only practical but it there's just it's not like we had these beautiful happy childhoods and now we're miserable and we need to like reach back to it. There's just something like, uh, it's, it's like you are a kid again and you are more sensitive to excitement and stuff. And it's like your adult body is overwhelmed by that amount of emotion. I will sometimes, you know, cry listening to music and it's like, uh, cause yeah, cause I have some, you know, I have this connection to the songs and stuff like that and i think there's just this like out of body moment where i never thought that i'd be
Starting point is 00:29:11 able to hear this song live because i'd seen fallaway live before but it was in 2016 and uh and it almost sounds like nostalgia is not the right word for it well no but it's just like it's just like i have a connection to this old, these, these older songs. And you just, usually when a band is touring, a lot of bands are like, well, I want to do the new stuff. I'm not too worried about that. You know? And I think that like Fallaway kind of, they,
Starting point is 00:29:38 they have a huge catalog. Like when you like listen to it, you're like, oh wow. Like they've like had hits in every decade you know what i mean like they did 30 tracks and like could have done a ton more well that's the thing it's like they did sugar we're going down third you know what i mean like and i thought that was cool i was like oh like they're like yeah no let's get that out of the way um and uh yeah so people were just like, the energy was really good. The visuals were really cool.
Starting point is 00:30:07 They brought out, um, they brought out a band that, uh, they brought out Cobra Starship. And if, if people don't know, Cobra Starship used to be signed to, uh, uh, Decadence Records, which was, um, Pete Wentz's imprint of Fueled by Ramen records. And I used to be super into them in like- Cobra what? Cobra Starship. Their biggest song is a song I don't like. And it is a song that they performed, but it was still really cool to see them,
Starting point is 00:30:40 which was Good Girls Go Bad. Did they bring- I make them good girls go bad. Did they bring them out for that song? Yeah, yeah. They brought them out. It was weird. They did this like little magic eight ball section
Starting point is 00:30:51 where like Pete Wentz would talk to a magic eight ball and it would like... It was like very cute. I want to see if I can... Like, cause some of the... Okay, so it is... This is practical. This is a real dog.
Starting point is 00:31:06 It's just really close to the camera. It's a big puppet. Wow. There's a guy behind it who's like pushing it. And then the mouth moves of the dog, like it was like going up and down. What transport that? I don't know. And this came out of-
Starting point is 00:31:21 The audio listeners, this is the, it's like a story talk. It is so big. It's like twice the height of the audio. This is this is the it's like a story talk So big it's like I wonder twice the height of these ceiling Jacob Can you go on YouTube and see if there's a video of this? It's I you can't see it because of the thing that subscribe button is coming but the The the the dog's mouth is moving along. To the lyrics? Yeah, to the lyrics. The dog is singing.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Oh, that second one is crazy. A massive dog. That's ridiculous. It was crazy, and it came out of nowhere. Where's that way? I don't know how any of it works. It's held up by very a lot of nowhere. There's no way. I don't know how any of it works. It's held up by very, a lot of strings. Is a big Doberman like part of the Fall Out Boy iconography?
Starting point is 00:32:14 The So Much for Stardust cover, I think, has a Doberman on it, which is their album that they're touring. And it's smaller, probably. Same size. Oh, okay smaller probably. Same size. But there are so many cool production elements where I was like, this is impressive. Like, look at how big it is. Yeah, that's the actual
Starting point is 00:32:34 size compared to... Oh, it could eat him. Did it? Did it bite him? Yeah, he died. Oh, man. Patrick Stump is gone. But yeah, the set changes were cool. Oh, yeah, that's the cover for So Much for Stardust is like a doberman that's their new album uh what's on it what is it i think bubbles oh yeah it was a i had a great time like genuinely one of the best concerts i've been to in recent memory you ever got a
Starting point is 00:33:01 like a coachella or a festival of any regard? Uh, never been to Coachella, but I have been to festivals and. Is she the buffering when I asked that question, by the way, that's the reduced Lamotrigine element. That was like late.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I, oh, I do that normal. So I'm like, I didn't even notice, but, uh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:22 So not Coachella, but I am mixed even know this. But yeah, so. Not go cello, but. I am mixed on festivals because I'm on my feet a lot, which I don't like. It's just a lot. And then the actual performances, like it's cool that you get to see so many different bands, but it's, I much prefer seeing a band in their own element where they control all of the variables.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Like I saw Kendrick Lamar at a festival and it was a bad show and it has no bearing on Kendrick Lamar. It was like, you know, the tech. How much could you do? The tech was messed up. Like there's all these things where it's like when you have your own team and everything's the same every night, that's one thing.
Starting point is 00:34:09 But when you are sharing the tech with a bunch of different acts, it's not setting the, all the artists up for success. Yeah. I feel like I, I like indulging in a bunch of snacks. I saw Kendrick Lamar at the same venue by the way in anaheim yeah and it was incredible so i just want to i did i just want to say that it's like it's uh but you just like sometimes festival shows like i think it's a cool environment and it's a thing i enjoyed a lot when i was younger but i also love to like see an artist in their own element when they control the whole yeah i feel like i either want if i'm sometimes i'll have a nice tasty big meal sometimes i'll just have a bunch of snacks but if
Starting point is 00:34:49 i'm paying a bunch of money i'd rather have the one big lovely meal yeah like kind of condenser i mean i just am kind of i'm easily bored like with any same with the exception of boulders gate i am the pacing of a lot of concerts that i've been to i'm like okay let's get moving i i've heard i feel that like i was enjoying myself but it wasn't until i remember telling alana like i'm conserving my energy because i'm gonna like i considered like getting a drink or I consider like getting coffee and I'm like no I know I'm gonna activate when like all these songs come on that I know but that's the thing I think for me at this point if I know all the songs then I'm gonna have the best the time of my life yeah and if I don't know all the songs then I feel like I'm not in on it what everybody else is in on you know what i mean like i saw brockhampton a few
Starting point is 00:35:45 years back and it was like a really high energy show and i saw tyler the creator and i was like i was like moshing and shit yeah i feel like i would flip my shit at both of those yeah but for reasons outside of it just being a show like it's who it is and it's the years they're in and it's they are also just very good performers i think i'm envious of the kendrick show because it's who it is and it's the years they're in and it's they are also just very good performers i think i'm envious of the kendrick show because he's just such a good performer you know or it's like i just think that uh i end up having foam not fomo but i end up being like i wish i had prepared more it's almost like i if i go to a concert and I don't know the songs, then I feel like I didn't do my homework.
Starting point is 00:36:26 And, uh, and then it's harder for me to enjoy it. Cause I keep thinking about how I wish I had a connection to it. Yep. Um, because sometimes all the music like will blend together and like, you have to know, like for me, I, I have to know what's there like to be able to tease apart what i'm even listening to sure um yeah i know we've both together and independently gone to like friends live shows music improv whatever and it is fun but it is missing that element because that's just like a different way of engaging with music yeah seeing my friend up
Starting point is 00:37:02 there drumming their heart out crushing a track doing like five songs and i'm like neat i didn't know that this person that that was a part of their life and it's cool to be exposed to that but it's kind of like seeing a marvel movie if i just didn't like superheroes like i don't or even just watching the movie now for the first time and having no reference point for the other stuff when I'd rather get all excited when Cap picks up the hammer, you know? One interesting, yeah, a hundred percent. One interesting thing about this is that the new Fall Boy album I had listened to a few times. The dog album?
Starting point is 00:37:38 Yeah, yeah. So much for Stardust. And I wouldn't say I had a deep connection to it but I had listened to it and then when I saw the songs live it like if I see Adam Sandler in the wild I don't have a huge connection to Adam Sandler's movies his stardom his stand-up I think he's funny I think he's entertaining we went to SNL age when he was on SNL right and so it's like I don't like I don't have like, I don't like, I don't have an emotion. I'm not going to, like,
Starting point is 00:38:06 I don't have an emotional connection to Adam Sandler, but I would be like, that's fucking, this is fucking crazy. You know what I mean? It's like seeing an eclipse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:14 And so when, like the songs from their new album came on, I was like, wait a second. I love these songs. You're right. That big dog
Starting point is 00:38:24 was right the whole time. There was a song that they performed live for Fall Boy Heads. It's Heaven, Iowa. Is there a fan name? I don't know. Like a fall boy. A sad boy? No, you know.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Jordan's Angels. FOB. I mean, you know, FOB is like the, you know, initials of the. What if it just comes up losers? Oh, believers. Oh, come on. Youngbloods. Car crash hearts?
Starting point is 00:38:54 Yeah, that's from a song. It's from a song on Infinity on High. How about the Dobermans? There were songs where i'm like oh hearing it live made everything click and then now i like really like this like they played heaven iowa and i if if you said the name of that song to me i'd be like i don't know what song that is and then when they sung it i was like first of all patrick stump is incredible vocalist like how old is he how old is that i think they're in their mid mid 30s late 30s now oh like
Starting point is 00:39:27 wait can you do patrick stump age i'm gonna guess 36 39 dude he's killing it i just have that i think it's because uh he wins is 44 by the way okay that makes a little more sense he wins i i think he's aged like a fine wine i mean it is i do have that like um because when you're a kid and you're really like a teenager you're really getting into anything everyone's 50 yeah and then as the sliding scale moves up like your teacher when you're in like fifth grade is 60 years old and now in retrospect like she just got engaged she was 20 okay i know i've talked about this and i do want to move off this fallaway thing but two more things that were very cute to me one incredible that the whole band is still together uh they did take a break in 2008 or 2009 to like 2013 uh and that was a long time for me as like a high school kid
Starting point is 00:40:17 college annoying time and i was like oh they broke up and then they like my junior year of college or whatever they were like uh coming back with a new album. And I was like, and yeah. And then someone did the Heimlich maneuver. I'm excited about the, so the whole band is still together, which is crazy. And, and there, when their first music video came out for this new album, Joe Troman uh the lead guitarist wasn't in it and i think he had been dealing with some like addiction stuff and with some like rehab stuff and so and i don't follow the band like the the personnel of the band like that that closely in 2024 and so like i remember seeing that i remember seeing like people being like i hope joe gets better and then uh they come out and i was like oh fucking joe is here i was like hell yeah dude that's so fucking sick and so it's like the whole you know it's uh uh you know andy hurley
Starting point is 00:41:17 joe troman pete wentz patrick snott high school reunion like i didn't know joe was coming yeah and so and then that that was very heartwarming to me and then also the fact that um they ended their set with uh saturday which is on take this to your grave it's like one of their first like singles that like popped but it wasn't like like sugar we're going down became a giant hit this was like a the song like popped in like rock radio and right of that single putting them like on the global yeah yeah like this was like sure sure we're going down it was on the album that came out after this but this is like when they first like sort of had their big break is like okay we're a band
Starting point is 00:41:54 we're touring we're like actually making a name for ourselves and they they ended their 2016 set that i saw with the same song but i think it's so cute that uh uh the like last line of the song saturday and there's a few there's a few lines in saturday that reference this but the last line of saturday is me and pete and it's like and it's like a 21 year old satin year old song now and I'm like, aww they're buddies! Aw they're friends! Just like fanboying out like a toddler called like Sherlock and Martin Freeman and Benedict Cumberbatch. The two buddies! Being chaotic for six minutes straight. Oh Patrick and Pete Best for sure ever! Alright. Okay, so anyway that was a good time.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Jacob, were you a super fan of any particular band at any particular time uh when i was in middle school and high school i really liked like 21 pilots dude hell yeah that's i missed it completely i am cold play i got into 21 pilots 21 pilots were up my alley because they were like i feel feel like if you were into like Panic at the Disco and Fall Out Boy when you were in like middle high school like I was such a self-consciousness about getting into American media. Like it's unavoidable, especially now. There's no way that same kind of thing can exist. But I do think like there was social cachet in your iPod Nano having Arctic Monkeys, but there was not social cafe in it having like chilies.
Starting point is 00:43:44 And then Stadium Arcadium came out one kid said it's really good and he's a popular kid and now you're allowed to like that American media but I was not allowed to like NSYNC that's for girls and it's American I feel like people made fun of me for liking
Starting point is 00:43:59 Fall Out Boy I remember googling around music reviews and I was like is their music bad is it bad wait can you go to a metacritic and type in metacritic infinity on high so this is fall boys uh 2007 album and there's two things i want to say about it yeah that one okay so this is like generally favorable reviews like Like a lot of, it had a lot of positive, positive reviews. But I remember going to this and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:44:28 oh, okay. So it's not, it's not bad. Like even though, this is the rules. Even though like music reviews, like it's whatever. But it was a thing where I was like,
Starting point is 00:44:36 people were making fun of it. Like I like this, like it's like if, like kind of how Justin Bieber was made fun of. Yeah. You know, where it's like,
Starting point is 00:44:43 oh, okay. By people that did not hear the music. And it was definitely like people, and it was made of,ber was made fun of you know where it's like oh okay by people that did not hear the music and it was definitely like people and it was made of i was made fun of by people who were like fans of like indie rock like the arctic monkeys and shit like that and i and so then i started disliking that in response i'm trying to remember if there was a oh i mean one thing that now in retrospect was just racism is it was like, you're listening to rap. Oh, not that it was bad or not.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Okay. But me listening to rap is like, okay. Yeah. Big surprise. I was listening to Eminem. I'm like, who can I listen to?
Starting point is 00:45:18 Yeah. They made one for you guys. The other thing I want to say about this album is that after the show, when everyone's like funneling into parking, people were coming up to me and saying hi and stuff. And I thought that was really sweet. And this girl comes up to me and wanted to get a picture. And she's wearing an Infinity on high shirt.
Starting point is 00:45:35 And her mom took the picture. And I realized that she would have been, she might not have been born when the album came out and she was wearing an infinity i was like i should be wearing that shirt it was i'm just joking by the way it was super sweet but um and it's great that you found that album and loved it despite oh i think it's amazing i genuinely think it's amazing because i'm like i i literally was like great shirt great album you know uh you're like don't worry i confirmed that it is good i confirmed i double checked the the the facts seeing someone in that t-shirt and being like one sec pulling up the review it's good sure it's a good shirt um but it was the experience of
Starting point is 00:46:15 um this is like i didn't have this exact experience because i actually think it's a good thing but i saw i saw through the eyes of someone who sees a bunch of teenagers wearing like nirvana like never mind shirts and goes you didn't freaking listen to nirvana like i i like that cross right or like an acdc shirt or something like that um i had like my first flash of that and i had to like suppress it it's like there's so many layers of reasons why that gatekeeping doesn't make sense ultimately it's just not productive whatever i did the same thing don't get me wrong but there is the the biggest uh devaluer of gatekeeping is it doesn't matter yeah because it's the response to when somebody's like hey i bet you never even
Starting point is 00:47:03 listened to skin it and then they're like well no like look at my spotify history i do actually listen to them you're actually allowed to not listen to them and wear the shirt that's completely fine just like i don't like i don't know man you can uh i'm trying to think of a comparison i mean you can wear merch that you found secondhand from Goodwill for like, you can get a Letterman jacket from Goodwill from a school you didn't go to. Yeah. There's not like rules. This also middle school.
Starting point is 00:47:32 And these things are things that stuck with me is I was like a little skater kid. I listened to Hall of Boy, big surprise. And I remember if I would wear like, like an almost skateboards t-shirt or-shirt or like an element t-shirt or something like that, there were certain kids who were also skaters who would call me a poser. And I almost felt the need to be like, no, I'll do a kickflip right now. There's a skill level required. Yeah. I'm like, no, no, no. Don't worry.
Starting point is 00:48:00 I'll do an ollie. I'll do an ollie. Give me a board. I'll do it. I'm not a poser. I swear. I know. I was like, how the hell do I get into it then? I was terrible an Ollie. I'll do an Ollie. Give me a board. I'll do it. I'm not a poser. I swear. I know. I was like,
Starting point is 00:48:05 how the hell do I get into it then? Cause I was, I was terrible at it, but I did it. And most of the people I hung out with would skate. And I'm like, okay, so what,
Starting point is 00:48:15 did you all just genetically be friends and know how to do this? Who's supposed to encourage me to do this? I know. That's the thing. Who's it for? Who's this gatekeeping of anything? I think it's... It elevates, I guess, you yourself.
Starting point is 00:48:31 It's the identity. Yeah. It's like when you play... It's like Star Wars fans and stuff. It's like when you play so much of your... When you have such a strong connection to something... The Force. And you...
Starting point is 00:48:42 The midichlorians. And you... I forgot. And you see someone else you it's you trick your brain into thinking it's like a zero-sum game where if someone else can have that then that means it devalues like your connection to it and so you need to preserve me that like yeah yeah you need to preserve your connection to it by putting else putting down someone else's because then it is arbitrary, then that means that thing you care so much about is arbitrary. And then there's some shame to that for some reason. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Genuinely, I had this little biting moment where I love Larry and Studios. I was very excited about Baldur's Gate. And I picked it up. And then same thing happened with elden ring actually where i'm like it's my little city and bald like baldur's gate wanted to consider like some of the most important games i remember like the dark souls series and all expansions when i went back i was like uh like baldur's gate was uh it like defined a genre. What is it? The infinity engine genre of like classic RPGs. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:50 And I remember seeing the box in stores when I was a kid for Baldur's Gate. I didn't think I was smart enough to play it. Yeah, it was like a tome. I was like, oh goodness, Jesus. Do I need to learn a second language? Yeah. And then I only ever played the action RPG Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance
Starting point is 00:50:07 good game remake bad not remake but reboot I don't know who cares no one cares about me I was thinking about I don't cut that I was thinking about looking into some of the older Baldur's
Starting point is 00:50:24 Gate's Arcanum is really good it's not the indie into some of the older Baldur's Gates. Arcanum is really good. It's not the indie universe, but if you like Baldur's Gates. I know. I was like, either I want to play Divinity or I want to go back and play like the 2001, like, because I heard there was like a 2013, like, not remaster, but like modernization of it. Which is 40 years ago. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:50:43 It's on GOG for like $2. Okay. Wow. And it's on Switch, which was the one I was thinking about more because then I might be more encouraged to of it. Which is 40. Oh, really? It's on GOG for like $2. Okay, wow. And it's on Switch, which was the one I was thinking about more because then I might be more encouraged to play it. Wait a second.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Hold the phone. Put the phone down. Pick it back up. I think I'm in. Hello? I think I'm down. Oh, it's Minsk. How do you play?
Starting point is 00:51:00 He's like, I have a... The big, the metal one. My hamster is so strong. Jacob, can I... How do you play? He's like, I have a... The big, comfortable... My hamster is so strong. Jacob, can I... I'm going to airdrop you an image real quick because it's all the rage right now, apparently.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Shout out to all the people who have left us supportive comments or sent us really nice messages. My executive function is at an all-time low right now so i can't always respond it's really it but it is very lovely yeah i do read them i just want javis and events to know that this was the first image that came up on the gog page and it almost made me not buy it okay it's fucking mince that's so funny all right i hate it i don't know if anybody would even push back, frankly, on my criticism of Minsk.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Like, you know, if it said something bad about a stereo, a car like, or something, people would be pissed. But, like, I'm just not even going to do the Stonewall Quake. I hate it. I think, yeah, I think he has a lot, though, in the older games. So I think maybe you'll warm up to him. Maybe if he doesn't have his fucking gimmick with him. That stupid hamster.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Being late trolled much? It was different back in 2001. Yeah, 4chan humor was better. More of a hit. I've been getting, oh, God, dude. I'm getting so many YouTube shorts of 4chan green text posts. Where it's, you know uh uh counter-strike surfing or like uh subway surfer footage yeah and then the like be me be be at work at gamestop
Starting point is 00:52:35 those ones and they're just all lies yeah and the reddit post ones as well i feel like this would work perfectly if i hadn't lived like if you are 14 or something or like very very insular maybe but they're all like so obviously fake right that are people buying into it like wrestling where like yeah we know it's fake but let's just like pretend because all the stories are it's literally and and that guy was albert einstein right all kind of stuff one of them was just uh be me be uh be working with a girl absolute dime you know never says what the job is never says anything walk home together every day next day after after doing it for a year, next day, a woman, other woman, not a dime, four,
Starting point is 00:53:32 comes up to me and says that I've been making her uncomfortable. What the hell? I didn't even do anything. And I'm like, okay, this is either fake and you're just trying to farm attention for MRA bullshit or you're leaving out you being creepy right right yeah like for some reason just like i don't know you by definition you probably are not so i feel like the people who are creepy do not have the self-awareness about being creepy there's
Starting point is 00:53:55 a great show i've been trying not to watch too much of because it can be depressing sometimes depending on who's on it but there's a show called uh youtube series called financial audit with a guy called caleb highly recommend it's fun it's interesting it's also kind of educational if you don't know much about like personal finance it's oh god i wish it existed when i first moved to the u.s and i like could not conceive of what the credit score was for like any of this weird nuance there is a dude some of those stories are people are clearly I watched one in particular where a guy was like at multiple different jobs. They're going through his expenses and like, you got to stop ordering Uber Eats, bro.
Starting point is 00:54:35 You know, come on, work on this. And they're like, how much were you bringing in? And I'm like, what about after taxes? I'm like, I don't know how much is taxes. The money you get sent to you. He's like, well, I get it every two weeks. I'm like, right. Just answer just the question though. And then he goes like, oh don't know how much his taxes, the money you get sent to you. He's like, well, I get it every two weeks. I'm like, right. Just answer just the question though.
Starting point is 00:54:47 And then he was like, oh, it's this much. And it was like a good wage for where he lived. He was somewhere in the Midwest and it was like 71K. And it was from a restaurant manager jobs, two different jobs. And in both cases, he was like, well, yeah, sometimes I, I, I tend to move restaurants a lot change my jobs a lot because at every restaurant i want all the people i work with like they start conspiring they just like don't like me they just want to get me fired for some reason for like no reason like what are you talking about man yeah if you went to court that would be enough they could get like that
Starting point is 00:55:20 many witnesses or like what are you talking about everybody everywhere is conspiring against me specifically why does everybody smell like shitty pants that are weird why do people keep pissing my bed um i fell asleep when you said shit it just reminded me of this you know the dagger in boulders gate three that's called the poo scraper yeah there's a youtube video called like can you can you beat it using only the pooscraper and it's first of all so funny second of all it's like this guy slowly realizing he can create um like what are they called battle masters or whatever and like bind the pooscraper to them and then like throw the pooscraper okay night throw the pooscraper pick it up with another character because he's basically doing it no no
Starting point is 00:56:04 no character can have a weapon except for the Pooh scraper, and you only have one Pooh scraper in the game. So then his entire party is sharing the Pooh scraper, throwing it and picking it up. No, no, no. Throwing it and then having it bound so it comes back and then sending it to the next party member. So fucking funny.
Starting point is 00:56:20 And I fell asleep watching that last night, so I'm going to finish it after this. Pooh scraping that. Okay, so we've got two so we got we want to talk about the willy wonka thing uh which yeah people are probably somewhat familiar with but it keeps evolving it keeps evolving and i know i know danny made a video about it i know people made videos about it but i i actually just want to learn about it i think it'd be fun to talk about so to start um i haven't watched people's videos about it so i only know vaguely that there was a there was an event there's a willy wonka event in scotland in glasgow and it used a lot of ai art and ai generated like text to advertise it
Starting point is 00:57:02 and in practice the event was nothing as advertised everything was like super cheap looking the photos from it are extremely depressing and there was a there was like a random stand-up comedian who was hired to be willy wonka a character called something like the fury or the secret or something that hid behind a mirror and jumped out at people for the whole show this is actually a very whimsically awful event that maybe would be one of the tests for the kids. You know, like Mike TV dies in this part or whatever. Wait, here's the advertising.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Indulge in a chocolate fantasy like never before. Capture the enchantment. God, even the text is AI. That's so unconvincing. This is awful. This is terrible and just non-descriptive this doesn't tell me anything these posters they're all very obviously like they look like a deep dream it's not even like modern ai it looks very unsettling very poorly put together check the
Starting point is 00:57:56 first one the poster so the tags and things happening are cat gating live cat cat gating cat gating huh live performances carchy tons these i mean i guess these are references or whatever but it's just funny to have live performances a regular thing that does exist a pass a dice of sweet and then a letter that is t and r at the same time sweet teats sweet teats wait why would they have but interning entertainment is the suggestion that like or is the conclusion that this is ai the text this is galarian mr mime oh oh my god that's mr rhyme dude that's that's fucking a Pokemon, dude. Is this Palworld? What's going on?
Starting point is 00:58:48 So that's not Willy Wonka. In the middle, that's just a clown. That's Billy Bonka. He's not a clown. He's not a circus guy. You didn't read the books. Oh yeah, I forgot. Glass elevator he becomes one.
Starting point is 00:59:01 Hermione was black, actually. She was whatever. We'll make you leave me alone and stop yelling at me online. Soione was black, actually. She was whatever will make you leave me alone and stop yelling at me online. So people paid, I think it was the equivalent of $45. And they turned up and this was five pounds.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Oh, this is insane. This looks like visitation. Can you go back? Why are the chairs upholstered like of all the things why why are they like that how do we even describe it it looks like an airplane hanger with a it's a there's this um you know the like the uncanny valley right like when a face doesn't look right or whatever
Starting point is 00:59:41 i this has the same effect on me as when you see like a single baby shoe in the wild or a tipped over wheelchair. This genuinely looks AI generated. Yeah, the image is so convincing. Wait, can you go back to the other one? Or you ever see like a mattress outdoors? Yeah. What happened?
Starting point is 00:59:58 This looks like a train station that doesn't have train tracks on either side of it. This looks like the devil's trying to trick you into thinking you went to heaven oh that's insane wait the photo op moment why in the look at the left that's a that's a troll what's going on there it's duplicated on the left and on the right. Why does it end? We could do better than this today. They saw, they probably put a camera on it and they were like, oh, it's too wide. You can see the white on either side because they don't have the right focal length of the lens.
Starting point is 01:00:37 So what is, when was this? Because the movie came out, the movie's been out for like a couple, like three months ago. A couple weeks ago. Why? I just don't, so do we know who made this and why? The movie's been out for like a couple months. A couple weeks ago. Why? I just don't.
Starting point is 01:00:49 So do we know who made this and why? Is this a big prank or were they genuinely trying to like scam people? Yeah. So this was one of the live performances. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God, pause, pause.
Starting point is 01:01:15 The imagery they've chosen to place around, right, is, okay, big lollipop. This singular lollipop is the baby shoes never that is threatening yeah it looks like he's trying to hypnotize me but what's with all the pipes it's very industrial yeah it's like i think it's supposed to be like the uh the candy room in wonka where there's like the chocolate pipes ah the famous willy's pipes plumbing what's more wonderful than infrastructure i know it's infrastructure week but i don't know i mean this actually feels a little bit like when you see ai art and it's
Starting point is 01:01:57 people espousing like oh my god like now anybody can draw and then you look at it as a human you go this is trash like why this obviously is not good to look at. Why? There must be a part of the event. I mean, it's easy to throw a bad event, I guess, whatever. But there has to be a stage at some point in setup where you go, oh, no, we can't. Like, we can't do this. We have to do something more than putting up a bunch of obstacles.
Starting point is 01:02:26 It has the imagination of someone who only knows how to type in prompts to AI. Yes. Like they just go, oh, the walls, the ground, all of the set pieces, they will just happen, right? Because when I hit submit to the AI, it generates all the middle parts yeah it's like the first time you like make anything like first time you make a video first time you edit something first time you try writing it's like well i know what it's supposed to be at the end right this doesn't or like uh even even like early on when you know you start working at an office kind of environment for the first
Starting point is 01:03:06 time you just don't think about all of the bits in the middle you think oh yeah we all work together and then the new piece of the products get shipped or yeah we all work together and somebody launches on the platform as opposed to like oh i need to set reminders to follow up with people because i know one of them's going on vacation and that might get in the way of the rhythm and i think we need to have this meeting at noon instead of four because everyone's always so tired it's all that boring stuff in the middle is not like fun to imagine so the part's like hey we should get like uh chairs that aren't like stainable like that's nasty and we should have a bouncy castle in the corner of a warehouse is
Starting point is 01:03:46 do we have props yeah do we have props oh we've got um one poster and a lollipop this is this has free candy van energy yeah the whole place also it's like they were uh they only know about willie wonka from anecdotes they're like oh, oh, pipe? Willy's big pipe. His famous huge pipe. Look up, search Willy's big pipe. Or pipe's big Willy. Don't do that. Let's look at the rainbow.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Yeah, and all the backgrounds are just like cheap light stands with like this serial killer stuff. It's like landscaping fabric. Dude, that's what Dexter puts on. I literally was going fabric. Yeah. That's what Dexter puts on. I literally was going to say, this is like what Dexter puts on before he kills you. I honestly, $45.
Starting point is 01:04:31 What was that? It's like 38 pounds, 36 pounds. Not worth. You can get, you can get a, you can find how many times you can buy a boulders game. Okay, though. Page 45, that's a good price. Sorry, I know this isn't important.
Starting point is 01:04:44 I don't even go back like five seconds. I'm not joking. This guy appears. He teleported. What if he's the organizer of the event? That's Willy. Paid 45 the ticket for this. Paid 45 the ticket for this.
Starting point is 01:05:01 I bet we have to pay for that food over there. Oh my god, that that bar these are like um the photo bits they are what a waste of money god that's rough okay so an umpalumpa too tall by the way it giving... Each child gets one jelly bean and a quarter cup of lemonade. You gave a couple cups? Why? One jelly bean for $45?
Starting point is 01:05:37 The most insulting amount of jelly beans. Did they just not buy enough lemonade? Because the margins they're saving on lemonade that can't be worth it they got a singular bag of jelly beans like this will cover it it's open i mean wait literally one person's ticket would cover every single glass of lemonade you need the fact that they are like it looks like he's getting a shot, the way they give him that one jelly bean. It's like, all right, hold out your hand. Here comes the jelly bean.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Good boy is a sticker. Yeah. He did it. Wait, pause. Wait, go back to exactly that frame. Why is there math on the back? Willie's favorite. Like, Y equals log X squared cosine.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Oh, it's like science-y, like Like this is Wonka's lab or something. I don't know. Have you guys even seen the movie? I mean, that's his famous chocolate math. On the canteen computer. On Wonka's big pipe right there. Yeah, in between the big log pipe. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:39 In between his huge orange pipe. That's the third book. Look at the dad back there, dude. That is a trooper of a dad weaving inside the pipe to try and make fun of you. Aw, look. I'm going through the pipe.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Hey, don't get me wrong. I think if I was a little kid, I'd get a fun with this. Kids don't know how things are supposed to be. They don't know how much their parents spent on this oh god that is not a camera these seem could you say this these props they don't seem like default no they do seem custom which would cost so much money they look like someone designed something in like blender and
Starting point is 01:07:37 then like paid to be have it made out of plastic yeah just do all of those and then oh shit we spent the budget uh what about a big top of a window? Nobody use a wide angle lens. Did you remember this scene from Willy Wonka? Actually, I think this was in the book, the brick wall with windows. Yeah, the brick wall with windows. Willy Wonka's loft apartment. With like AC questionably hanging there.
Starting point is 01:08:00 Charlie, you and me, Charlie, we'll float up to the AC. Look at the Imagination Lab arc that is not an arc. It has like a hard angle in the middle of it. It's like a Starfleet logo. Ready? Ready? Aw, that guy's just doing his job. think oh this is embarrassing oh that's crazy that's those peppers those are the cups of lemonade that is someone gets those samples for the lab
Starting point is 01:08:38 those piss guys like lemonade the least appealing thing to sit in a transparent cup in warm in a warm environment that is like i'm not even gonna check um this queen became an icon is that a toilet brush why does she have a chemistry set? Is it a brothel of fireballs? There's so much. This looks AI. Yeah, this. Where is the smoke coming from? The smoke is wild.
Starting point is 01:09:16 And we will hear from her in a little bit. Okay. She has some stuff to say about the event. That is what you would look like if you were actually in a bullet book. Exhausted. Yeah, true. Pissed off a bullet book yeah dude i've been worked to the bone um more footage from the house of a kid starts crying and for it's the end of that's terrifying is that from really what is that um so according to I saw a post about this What they said was this Character is called the unknown
Starting point is 01:09:50 Which is an evil chocolate maker In this universe Will it work in the universe? Is this like a subverse? They don't look like they're making chocolate It looks like they're just fucking spooking you Dude you know when you're making chocolate You gotta hide behind a mirror people think that the whole script for like
Starting point is 01:10:08 the unknown and stuff was also written by ai that tracks or dr seuss right so paul connell was the guy who played wonka and he that's a scottish name one of the first to kind of like speak out about this experience once it started going viral. Hello, everyone. My name is Paul Connell, and I was one of the actors employed to play Willy Wonka at the Wonka's Chocolate Experience fiasco that happened in Glasgow this weekend. I'm going to be poking a little bit of fun at the event, but I wanted to say before I start that I feel for anyone who bought tickets to this event, people who are expecting a magical chocolate experience
Starting point is 01:10:53 and got me in a top hat in a dirty warehouse in Glasgow, people who wanted Timothee Chalamet and got Timothee Charlatan. But I am going to tell kind of my side of it as i do just want to say that it's none of the people's fault who are like working the event obviously they have nothing to do with it i'm sure this guy's getting like weird shit because he was like one of the faces of it since he was wonka but well i mean probably also people like not people not understanding how acting works it's like well yeah willie wonka's in charge of stuff
Starting point is 01:11:26 in the movie that he's in charge of he's in charge of it yeah or like when mr beast was wonka he wasn't yeah i got cast as the part on the thursday um i was told that i needed to learn the script for the friday so i said no problem send it over the script for the Friday. So I said, no problem, send it over. The script was 15 pages. Monologue, pretty much. It's a short film. AI-generated gibberish, which I will read some for you if you want. In fact, no, I don't even need to read it
Starting point is 01:12:01 because I learned it all. And it was mad. I've lent all of it. That's all in there. What a professional. What a consummate pro. He saw 15 pages of AI gibberish and was like, I have to do the job. I hope you can at least leverage this a little bit.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Yeah, I hope. I mean, the TikTok went viral. I'm glad at least that. I don't know if he already had a presence online. But, I mean, the TikTok went viral. Like, I'm glad at least that and maybe, I don't know if he already had a presence online, but I mean, shout out to Paul Connell, dude. That's saintly. Hey, running a chocolate factory is not easy. Yeah, and this guy did it and his pipe.
Starting point is 01:12:38 So I'll give you one of the lines from the script. I'm not going to do the Willy Wonka voice because I think I've embarrassed myself enough over the last few days. But one of my favourite lines was, there is a man who lives here. His name is not known. So we call him the unknown.
Starting point is 01:12:57 The unknown is an evil chocolate maker who lives in the wall. Whose walls? Everyone's walls. He lives in the walls of his own house? Why? Does he make chocolate in the walls? What?
Starting point is 01:13:20 What is an evil chocolate maker? Does he make evil chocolate? Or is he an evil man who makes chocolate? He's just a bad bloke. What do you mean he lives in walls? He's just a professional that's unpleasant. He's just a mean person. Form that line with gusto and validity.
Starting point is 01:13:45 And that was a challenge as an actor. We were told on the experience to hand out a jelly bean, one jelly bean per child, and a quarter of a cup of Tesco's own brand lemonade. That was what the children got. Not even Tesco's finest? There was no chocolate to be had at this chocolate factory, which I really think they missed the trick,
Starting point is 01:14:15 because if there's ever an event to sell chocolate... Yeah, what? I'd say it was this one. You know what it is, dude? I think I know know or i can take a swing of why that is is that you can't really present chocolate outside of its packaging so if they're buying like cadbury chocolate it's you if you take if you take chocolate out of its packaging i'm like where's that be what is why what's it on is it a bowl you've got to buy a
Starting point is 01:14:45 bunch of those wonka bars that they used to sell like buy a bunch of expired chocolate and sell that don't do that by the way this has to be i don't know how much what's come out about it this has to be not a official event oh 100 it's like a well i don't know if it is probably it must be probably a million years old no yeah i don't know because it is probably it must be probably a million years old yeah I don't know was it a hundred years yeah usually sometimes they do weird stuff you know you can fight it like Disney
Starting point is 01:15:12 so now we can hear from the unknown in the walls my name is Felicia I'm the actor who played Yannone at Willy's Chocolate Experience So a lot of people have been asking
Starting point is 01:15:31 how did I actually end up with the role of Yannone It is a choice to leave the by the House of Illuminati and I was originally which is the company that was created for this experience. This has got to be a huge troll, right?
Starting point is 01:15:47 The House of Illuminati. I thought it was called Enrichillament. True, yeah. Is that a shell company of the House of Illuminati? The House of Illuminati. And I was originally supposed to be cast as one of the Wonkas. When I had first read the script, I really did not like it. So then on the Saturday morning, I got cast as the unknown.
Starting point is 01:16:14 So if you want to know the unknown side of the story, like and just let me know in the comments. Check inside your walls. It kind of actually, with with the mascot it sounds like she is speaking from inside a wall i don't know why she left the mask on but maybe it's because she would be recognizable what's going on guys it's just me here oh you mean because like the rest of her content she doesn't have okay good like the mask i came out of the walls 1.9 million views Oh I guess she did a face reveal Or whatever
Starting point is 01:16:47 But yeah So if you look up Illuminati Entertainment Your computer turns off A house of Illuminati Oh yeah a house of Illuminati If that has to be Generated right
Starting point is 01:17:03 I mean that's such such a obviously bizarre yeah not even generated but it just feels like a troll on purpose yeah oh my god so their whole thing is extraordinary events and immersive experiences i'll say true um brave of them to leave their website up i thought maybe they had taken it down. This is like also, this is AI art from like the first phase of AI art. You know what I mean? It's so bad. This is weaker than most NFTs. Check Korea's page, Jacob.
Starting point is 01:17:36 Okay, it's nothing. There's nothing there. It's just a... It's the eye. I can do the Illuminati? God, even the pictures are bad what to expect at willy wonka and the chocolate by admin jellybean wait can we click on that the what to expect on the far right what to expect from the far right
Starting point is 01:17:59 oh my god the image is so low res is it not loading or is it that's crazy it's just a small image that they have blown up because they don't know how to make a website so this is like apparently someone creating one of the set pieces that was never used look at the look at below it's look go down dark gray text on a Navy background. I'm like, did the website finish loading or is there like a CSS error? Highlight it. Well, yeah, could you highlight it or just hit command A?
Starting point is 01:18:33 Get ready to embark on a journey into a world where dreams taste like chocolate. There'll be no chocolate at the end of that. As we approach. Get ready to journey into a world with some lemonade. A little bit of lemonade and a few beans. To share. To share.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Everyone gets half a jelly bean. You can go to the cutting station and have your jelly bean cut in half. Willy's cutting pipe. Chocolate fountains. Picture yourself standing before cascading chocolate fountains. Each velvety stream inviting you to dip, indulge, and savor the richness of Willy Wonka's world. But you can't.
Starting point is 01:19:09 They had one small tabletop chocolate fountain with mini marshmallows. God, yeah, I guess, is that really like the ceiling? The event comes alive with the whimsical performances of the iconic Oompa Loompas. These singing companions guide attendees through the immersive wonders of Willy Wonka's world, adding an extra layer of charm to an already magical experience.
Starting point is 01:19:29 It's a one Oompa Loompa. It was one Oompa Loompa. That's so funny. Very sad. An adventure in every bite beyond the visual and auditory treats. The Willy Wonka and the chocolate factory experience promises an adventure in every bite from sweet delicacies to chocolatey wonders attendees will have the attendees will have the opportunity to explore and indulge in the many
Starting point is 01:19:49 facets of this beloved treat this is for sure ai oh yeah that double use of treat yeah that's crazy and they have hashtags for what do they know what website this is it's their own website uh as we count down as we count down to the day the apocalypse when willie wonka's world comes to life imagine a day comes to a gray warehouse when his world england comes to life imagine a day filled with laughter joy and the irresistible allure of chocolate this is erotic like this is weird mention chocolate so much for an event that has zero chocolate at all dude willie wonka didn't talk this much about chocolate yeah different rooms yeah one with a tv yeah wow that's like one of the rooms he'd have to deliberately kill a kid hit back jacob just scroll to the very bottom
Starting point is 01:20:41 recent comments a wordpress commenter hello world it's like such a fucking just lorem ipsum yeah it's yeah literally dude it's like what oh oh yeah their links don't work it's like wordpress commenter wait what did they say can you highlight hi this is a comment to get started yeah it's, it's a WordPress. That's awesome. That's when they set up their WordPress. I mean, I just don't even know. People are comparing it to Fyre Fest, and obviously the severity level is different, but it does have a similar kind of surreal,
Starting point is 01:21:14 how are you a real living human being without any foresight. Fyre Fest had contracts with real artists. Adults. Yeah, and then fell through, even though it was obviously a scam and stuff you know they didn't have chocolate lemonade oh that's true jelly bean no jelly beans at fire fest imagine if it was like this is our food instead of that cheese sandwich it was a single jelly bean each for each tent yeah you get a private tent it comes along with its own jelly
Starting point is 01:21:41 bean are there any other videos from people talking about it? Yes. Are they any Oompas? There can only be so many people because it looked like it was a skeleton crew. Oh, dude. Of one Oompa Loompa, the unknown, and a Wonka. I mean, you know, it kind of says a lot that, like, they cheaped out, obviously. I mean, they weren't looking to spend a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:22:05 But then they also had just a huge warehouse just do it like a pop-up do it in a room this size yeah you would have a lot less to you could fill it yeah you could it looks like this was
Starting point is 01:22:14 their first event because these are all posted within a couple days of each other yeah what's the magic of Glasgow the unicorn actually I believe is the magic I think it's also their
Starting point is 01:22:23 last event oh no it's also their last event. Oh, no, it's like a Harry Potter event. Witchcraft and wizardry. Carefully curated menus that reflect the city's gastronomic diversity. Why do they keep doing food, by the way? I feel like if you're a shitty company, don't make yourself liable for food poisoning. Don't make that your thing.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Well, they didn't, but they said they would. I don't know which is worse. I guess the risk was like with a single jelly bean. So someone else who spoke out was the Oh yes, queen. So basically, I am the girl from the one I love that she has the photos
Starting point is 01:23:01 right down there. Second one's awesome too. So basically, I am the girl from the Wonka event I never wanted this to go as big as it was I'm actually a very private person I very private
Starting point is 01:23:20 I don't even really use social media as you can see on my Twitter and on this it's the first time I've actually posting on but I feel like I need to have my say of what's went on because
Starting point is 01:23:34 I think I've got every right to since I've became a global anyway I do see the humour in it, it is really funny my friends and my family do we all are laughing Anyway, I do see the humour in it. It is really funny. My friends and my family do. We all are laughing about it. I laugh at the other actors about it,
Starting point is 01:23:55 about how bizarre this actually has went. I don't even look like the picture at all. That's fine. Getting called a 50-year-old meth head is not great not great oh is that what people were saying in front of her the whole thing was bizarre the whole time I was actually I think by that point
Starting point is 01:24:13 actually everyone walked off set but then I felt bad for the kids so all I tried to do was try and uplift everyone's spirits and just have a bit of fun with the kids and I think some of the people at the event could vouch for me for that but i am vouch yeah the comments are savage very very savage and not very nice i think we won't be able to work hands and realize that people are just human
Starting point is 01:24:39 beings and i think she was probably getting shittier comments than the guy for some and comments about her appearance for some reason not you know obviously obviously it's good faith criticism and not misogyny that's not how it works obviously no that's definitely wouldn't be can't be that can't be reviewing it can't and everyone's saying that they don't like the way she looks is hot like the people leaving those comments. Right. Oh, my goodness. A wooga, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:25:08 A wooga, for sure. 30-year-old woman from Glasgow. Who did a job that is the worst job, acting job, I've ever done in my life. I love my job. I really do. I do other stuff. It's just, the whole thing's mental to be honest with you
Starting point is 01:25:27 but I don't know what else to really say I'm just speechless I've not had my phone on for two days because this has just been too much I do see the funny side of it
Starting point is 01:25:43 it's so ridiculous to me that she would be getting i mean i get it because the internet's a you know a cruel place but the yeah that's wild people of mine don't know how or why things are funny sometimes or why how things happen like in what universe would you think that she i don't know i mean there's no legitimate criticism to be made yeah any fun ribbing is like it requires a deft hand not just because like not like hey i don't care if it offends you jordan don't be so sorry about no i mean like it's just not very funny and it ruins fun bits like this when you have to inject them with some kind of, like, vitriol.
Starting point is 01:26:27 Because that's like kid mindset, right? It's like, oh, where people are laughing around me, how can I elicit a reaction? Ah, there are people, I mean, I've showed them to you. There are people I follow that just do interesting stuff or make weird content. And I enjoy them. And sometimes I'm, like, slightly laughing at because they're, one of them does like puts out like stand up stuff or a bunch of different stuff, but sometimes we'll put out like these kind of sets that he's doing at home.
Starting point is 01:26:55 And it's, you know, he has four jackets that are all the same jacket for some reason. Every time that he opens a video, he always says, hey, what's going on, everybody? I hope you're having a happy, then says the day, and then says, at least I think it's that day. It's always exactly the same. And I really enjoy those videos. And I always comment, and I say something nice. Yeah. Because I don't, it doesn't matter to me what the, I don't want to discourage what he's doing. And clearly he enjoys it. And I find it fascinating. And I hope he does does it and I hope he's having a good time.
Starting point is 01:27:29 I've never understood the instinct to, it's like if you're having a really nice meal and you're like, and I'll throw it on the ground. Well, now you don't get the meal. Why would you do that? I think it like speaks to a culture of putting other people down for fun but like where it's like if you could do that and like someone might be doing that in private and it doesn't harm someone because they're keeping it even if it's like bad or like not moral or whatever it's like in private but when it's in public then it just turns into this fucking hate fest on someone
Starting point is 01:28:05 who'd like at the end of the day didn't do anything wrong right it's like an actor working a job and then making the best of a shitty situation and so why would you be making fun of i think it's like any anytime someone sees something viral they like project success and like shit onto them. That is a part of it. Where it's like, you're in the ivory, you're in the ivory tower or whatever. And I want to bring you down a peg. Anybody, it's kind of like that weird proxy war that people were having with verified Twitter users before Twitter blue.
Starting point is 01:28:42 I didn't even find out about until after Twitter Blue. Now we are part of the elite. Oh, did people care about verification? I didn't know that this was happening. And it's like, oh, sorry, do you think everybody that was verified is rich and hates you and has yachts and stuff? Oh, you completely, I think, misunderstood.
Starting point is 01:29:00 And now we have yachts, right? Well, we do because I'm not verified. But now that I have my verification check, I also get a yacht. And that's what it was before because it was all just appearances. Yeah, I buy it for $8. Yeah, give me my half jelly bean. It's about my third now. With Bidenomics, dude, good luck getting any jelly bean.
Starting point is 01:29:18 Seriously, they'll share it for medical care. I just don't think people know how to interface with anything that isn't kind of confrontational same reason you can't just nobody can riff on a funny thing on twitter it's either like erm this or a kill yourself there's also the misogyny of regardless of um regardless of someone's appearance like a lot of dudes online feel the need to comment on it like it like even if it's positive um but she's super hot is she single like or like um busted uh bad looking don't like it my uh my peen isn't getting excited my pipe is getting nothing yeah i'm getting nothing from this so uh not for me okay damn i guess I did a bad job. Is this for you?
Starting point is 01:30:06 It's like, it's so weird to look at something that's like not for you and then treat it as if it, everything that comes across your eyes is for you. Yeah. And the world centers around you and now you have to react to it as if your little servant was presenting you with something to like, oh for you sire sure yes well this isn't for me i want to prove this you're you need to learn to do better be hotter for me that's all i want and i am hot by the way and i paid eight dollars there's i mean part of this genuinely is just like yeah very transparent old school no frills misogyny
Starting point is 01:30:46 and unnecessary hate online etc etc but i think there's also just like i don't think you know how to interact with people i think that you probably there's a they've already stratified understanding community they don't know what it's like to to encourage without like expecting some kind of karmic payoff from encouraging something. Like I'm going to be mean to this person online so I can screenshot it, put it in my little Discord group chat and then get social kudos for doing that. Everything has a stratagem to it
Starting point is 01:31:15 because otherwise what am I getting? If I dunk on them, everyone's going to like it. I would. And everything that happened for them, me I get. Yeah, creating a like a dopamine economy for like dunking on someone, too, is like. A dopamine economy is perfect. Yeah, it's like so weird.
Starting point is 01:31:30 Because that's what they're trying to do. Because they clearly want other people's validation. That's why they're saying it out loud. They're like, am I right, fellas? Anyone? Yeah, anyone? Can I get a few likes? Oh, edit, update.
Starting point is 01:31:43 I'm going to kill you. Wow, this still so many likes yeah edit thank you for the gold kind of stranger it's been a bit much and it's not me
Starting point is 01:31:52 it's not me at all I'm not a social media gal I guess it's fortunate she does look so different in those photos yeah like I was like I think
Starting point is 01:32:02 because the guy I think would be very recognisably him yeah because he wasn't in a wig or anything but even so it's like i was like i think because the guy i think would be very recognizably yeah because it was like this isn't like um this isn't going on imdb you know so yeah these are just journeymen dude this is work yeah hopefully these things can just uh hopefully these like i don't follow these people around i don't think it has especially if she's not going to engage with i don't think it has like the juice because what the people that are being aggressive want is that attention yeah there's not exactly you know like a fresh insight we know this but that i think her explicitly being not a social media person makes it a very
Starting point is 01:32:42 unfun target for those psychos yeah exactly and she and because if you aren't the you know the cynical part of me is like there's going to be someone going um that's what you signed up for by existing in society by doing your job by doing your job i'm actually very happy you're an actor you want to be rich and famous and now that you finally have lots of eyeballs you're complaining oh i see you have a goal in focus in life well that's robbed me of having one yeah i'm miserable all the time and i think it's because of women because i also specifically because i also don't like them yeah maybe because what they did um and then the god the unknown is it is that what it's yeah no terrifying yeah dude um but she did a interview
Starting point is 01:33:28 with vulture um a few days ago and told them that none of the actors have gotten paid for this oh wow yeah okay that sounds they're not like not paying them and i can't imagine the rate was great and it's probably crypto it's probably in a new willy coin it was in jelly jellybean.io pipe bugs um but yeah people are having a crazy time with this apparently someone's planning on making a movie out of it okay okay relax basically based on the story of the unknown come on wait a fiction i thought like like a or like i thought like a docu fiction no like a film yeah oh that feels like it feels that feels like it would be profited by the people who put the event on i know what i don't create the unknown which is like a theory that some people have is like oh was this just for something like that all along?
Starting point is 01:34:28 The unknown is the only thing that is their property. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's already, it's very generic. They didn't manufacture that mask. I'm sure they bought it at like a fucking Halloween depot. Dude, I mean, to be fair, really, the truth is, and we've not specifically for for like sad boys or whatever but we've all you know you and me have been in email chains with people together and independently
Starting point is 01:34:51 when especially after moving to la where a project comes up or an idea comes up it's like we gotta meet about that and then a couple emails get sent back and forth one person representation talks to another it's, let's meet up. Cafe. Lunch. Today. You meet up. Don't talk about the project.
Starting point is 01:35:09 And it dies. Like, that happens. Or, hey, dude, Firefest really just kicked off. I'm thinking, what about, like, an A24 horror movie set in Firefest? Yeah. These things just don't happen because those people's jobs is to do that. Already, like, this happened, like, like very recently you haven't developed any anything you yeah you did your development is the concept of what if we did a movie about the unknown and then now it's an ai way of reacting to an event yeah where it's like that's not going anywhere let's be real and and like that's not what people
Starting point is 01:35:40 liked about it this doesn't have the it almost feels like it's testing the waters. Would you guys be into that? No one's going to fucking remember the unknown in six months. It's like the Madame Web issue, honestly. Where they're like, you guys... Okay, so Spider-Man movies made a bunch of money. There's a character called Madame Web, Spider-Man. So I'll make Madame Web.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Okay. Because spiders is what people like. Who is Madame Web? But if avatar was really popular we're like okay we're gonna make a rom-com and everyone's blue oh what people liked was the blue the blue yeah yeah the navi the no navi they are just it's a blue guy i'm blue dabu dab, Dabu love me. Oh, dude, we should make a movie.
Starting point is 01:36:28 It is as like much as, it makes as much sense as us being like, okay, people like how we sit weird sometimes. What about like a documentary or an album? We could make like a, like a horror movie about manspreading. That's this show, dude. I'm in contact with A24. And apparently,
Starting point is 01:36:46 I don't know how real this is or where to find it, but apparently someone... Yes. That's funny. I saw a skillet post a video today. It looks better is the issue. Find the Animal Crossing one.
Starting point is 01:36:56 The Animal Crossing one is really good. It's... They even got one of the unknown that's awesome holy shit oh yeah there's the unknown one in the bottom right that just looks like grey fox what the hell this I like because it's with affection do you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:37:22 yeah yeah it's fun and it's cute and I feel like the people who were in it could laugh at this as well This I like because it's with affection. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. It's fun and it's cute. And I feel like the people who were in it could laugh at this as well. This is not like I hate you and you're ugly. Yeah, look, it's you, but you're a little person. The Sims one is really accurate. Yeah. Because Animal Crossing, by default, is very vibrant,
Starting point is 01:37:42 whereas The Sims is a little bit more desaturated. Yeah, they really gave it the hollowness. They lived in the walls. But is it all a hoax so basically like the theory is um they were hired over email i didn't meet anyone who physically set it up it's not like the people behind the company are anonymous and like no one knows anything that they've done before. They're the unknown. And clearly the actors didn't have a lot of interaction with them because they were hired the day before. Oh, yeah, they didn't get to write us, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Not that I think it would matter. It's only so much you can polish a turd, but this is, like, very odd. It sucks when people get like when they have to kind of taint these with a bunch of conflict online or whatever not that it ruins it but it is a a little bit of a bummer because can't we just have nice things i don't know it's pretty funny that there was like one jellybean per kid right all right well that was a nice stroll through the wonderful incanting world of willy's pipe wonky willy or whatever willy's wonky pipe
Starting point is 01:38:57 willy's wonky pipe and bean beans and lemons when life gives you lemon like a small amount of lemonade when life gives you a quarter of a lemon maybe the unknown stole the chocolate that's why they only had lemonade that would make the most sense yeah that i mean that's famously what they do they evilly take from the walls yeah they bring it back to the walls evil chocolate maker yeah i guess I guess, yeah. I mean, it's a good question, yeah. Is it evil chocolate? But I feel like the evil version of a chocolate maker is just like a thief to somebody that takes chocolate.
Starting point is 01:39:32 Yeah. Or lactose intolerant. It's like the plankton to Willy Wonka SpongeBob, you know? I mean, yeah. Isn't that literally a character in Willy Wonka? There's that, like, one character that's gulking around, like, I'm going to get the, it's just the the math i'm gonna get that big wall of formulas um dg everyone thanks for uh well this is the end for now just kidding we're heading on over to patreon.com so sad boys to do our patreon
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Starting point is 01:40:48 I would love to go to an event like that. Yeah. That's my 2024. All right. Your 2024. I'm going to wait a while. Yeah. Okay.
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Starting point is 01:41:10 You have nine questions each. Okay. What are each of the four grades of high school, 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th, commonly called? I know 11th and 12th is junior and senior, because that never made sense to me. I always thought the first one should be junior. That would make sense.
Starting point is 01:41:28 I know the second one is um sophomore like a sophomore album what would you call it the first album uh ninth grade the debut gucci girl gucci girl how you doing how you moving girl moving girl how's your day looking that future girl future girl yeah we are now. Take my money, go away. All you wanted. Girl, you're too rich for me.

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