Sad Boyz - The Worst People You Know Are Collabing

Episode Date: December 26, 2025

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Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. Hey, hey, Peter. I was trying to do Patrick Warburton, but I can't. You know what? You did it perfectly earlier. I did it. I can't harness it. You got to, you get deeper.

Hey, Peter. Poison to kill Kusko's poison. Hey, hey, Peter. Hey, hey, Peter. He doesn't have that rise. I didn't think of that. Yeah, he does. Yeah, it's kind of tough.

All right. Let's address the haircut in the room. Now, you're right. I'm Jarvis. I'm Jordan. Hey, guys, what should we talk about today? Let's just riff it out, huh? We can talk about anything.

Hey, hey, Peter. Let's talk about, listen, talk about people's looks. Join us for Sad Boys' nights, and we might force someone to take his hat off. Yeah, I've been cleansed. No, I've got a, you know, second, not a new look. You know, I trim my hair relatively often, but there's been maybe some. structural issues this time around. Structural?

Maybe my silly... Maybe my... Yeah, my fontenelle. I started shaving my fontenelle and unfortunately created a cereal bowl on the top of my cranium. I woke up relatively early today. Right.

I may have, in my hubris, thought to myself, I could shave my head. Like 40 minutes, whatever. Easily. I guess. Whatever. I get easily.

Trimmer is not great. Runs out of battery a little quicker than maybe I would have anticipated. despite being fully charged. Did get a little bit extra charge in it while I'm in the shower. Hop out, do the rest. Not quite enough time before getting in the card to come over. I think I've managed to take care of what we would call

the essential areas for the purposes of podcasting. Now, people made up, for this particular episode, I think I'm not going to be maybe the most animate. I'm going to be a pretty stoic on this episode of Sad Boys. Right, you're like, I know my good angles. That's a good joke. And I won't turn. Good.

I do. Go to Jarvis' camera. I'm gonna get you, for Christmas, I'm gonna get you a clipper that plugs into the wall. Fuck. Wait, that would be really effective, huh? Yeah, that's kind of the thing about, yeah, they just keep it plugged in while you go. And that's what, and that's what some of us do. I, my, again, in my smug arrogance, really, it was an act of God.

I was punished correctly for my, for my arrogance, my pride, my sin. Right, right, right. I also thought that the truth is I can never really do it very evenly or practically at all if I have like any kind of grade on it. I just have to do right at the bottom just because there's too much. No, for sure. What if you train peeps to help you out? Give them a little step stool.

Train them with like with treats. You positively reinforce them. Pointing at my head. I don't think they're big enough to pick up the trimmer. I think if they, if they, their whole body would vibrate. It's like a cartoon, they just buzz away. It's like a pneumatic drill. Yeah.

I'd have to put them on my shoulder like a parrot. Yeah. You'd have to like get something to ground it. Like nail it. You have to like screw it into the ground. That's actually, I mean, why are we talking about my hat? Okay.

Well, you really should join us for Side Boys Nights because we are going to do an office holiday party. This office holiday party. Yes. It's the most wonderful time of the year. Santa came. You don't have to, but you should. If you fancy it over on our Patreon.

That's so cute. There's little tags to say from Santa. Santa came. Me when I'm filming a porn with Santa. Santa's coming to town. Well, the one for Christmas is goo? Santa's Whitcock.

Nope, nope. North Pole. Sorry. This is really rich with Matt. Yeah, there's a lot to work with. This is an excellent smoke screen to get away from my haircut. Right.

And yet you keep bringing us back to it. Yeah. Sayerboys. The Patreon.com says Hairboys if you're interested in bonus episodes. You go to a barber. You're actually like a grown-up. I need to get a haircut soon. How's your casual barber banter?

It's the reason I haven't gone to the barber recently because I'm like, do I have it in me to have the banter? It's a very specific kind of small talk. I really wish that there was like an app that I could say, no talking, please. The Uber black problem, too. Just because it's not that I don't always want it. It's just that sometimes it is a,

it reminds me of like the, when I had, I had four roommates in San Francisco and three roommates, myself included, sometimes four. But anyway, I would sometimes, my room was like near the door. And so I would sometimes rather, order Uber Eats, then go into the kitchen where everyone was because I didn't want to be perceived.

And that's a little bit how I feel about getting my haircut because I don't want to talk sometimes to a stranger. And I hate that. But it's just, it is what it is. Even if when it happens, it is, you know, relatively smooth. It is that, like, it's always a psychological hurdle. Yeah, it's like, it's never, there's never been a problem. But that stress is, like, not what I want. I ask big, open-ended questions, so they talk the whole time. Yeah. What kind of big open-ended questions? Well, okay. Do you like my hair? So I'm chopping to hear it.

That's how I get your hair cut. Oh, what are your holiday plans? I'm destroying my name in your hair. No plans. Okay. You got two barbers, right? You're not. You have two dueling barbers. What is that episode of Black Mirror called? Like, the

one about the twin The VR one. Oh, twin dragon. striking vipers yeah you have two striking vipers or you know you could be like um so it's a little tricky because i know my guy who cuts my hair very well henry shout out to henry graham he's amazing no relation to obri no and um find henry graham find out where he works go to that baba every single day you'll see anastasia something follow anastasia here and then you'll find out where we put a slip an air tag into anesthesia's pocket well but then my phone will be like a new

air tag is following you and then I'll be like and then okay create buy a commercial that says Apple's mistakenly sending out notifications about air tag travel that's not actually happening mr. Zuckerberg I do not consent to you using my information oh my god when you post that as your Facebook status Henry I know him very well at this point and I'll be like you know oh my god your If your surgery is coming up, your foot surgery, like, are you, how are you feeling about it? I'll, like, ask about feelings. I'm okay, yeah, I'm feeling pretty good. And then he'll be like, you go to a new barber.

Good, bz. You got any surgeries coming up? Noticing you're not talking. If you, if you don't say anything interesting, I'm going to start fucking up your head. I'm starting to shake from rage. The concept of a barber who makes the bz sound out of cutting your hair. It's a B actually. They're using scissors.

He's just washing your hair. Yeah, it's that Barry B. Benson got into a haircuts. It takes a while. Okay. You haven't been to a professional barber in some time, huh? Way to call him out. What makes you think that? Well, you told me that.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. You kind of screwed yourself. Okay, in private. Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to broadcast. We can't edit this show. We don't have the budget for that. We could choose between editing and audio.

Every week, Jacob edits the show, and then we go, now let's just go, I like it when we're off the go. I like it uncut, baby. It includes sections where we're just like, power down for a second. What is that? What's that on my phone? All surgery.

It's like, I don't know if any barbers with upcoming surgery that I can generate a rip with. I think my one issue I do have, I think with, I'm right now, I don't think I can go back to the, the barbers that I had previously. and G up

I think I might as well I wasn't super satisfied with it anyway the kind of general work I was getting so I would be going to a new place I do have a recommendation for you chop your head off Oh my God leave this in, don't edit

Jacob we have to cut out when I always Have a nap I'm doing the Uber man Sleep's control I pee pee pee It's called crunch demonic eapiness, actually. Yeah, people don't know I'm baby.

Yeah. I do have a recommendation for you, though. Someone who's very nice and chill and easygoing. Small talk in general, not necessarily an issue. And it's nice. I don't know. I get a lot out of like being friendly to and receiving friendiness from strangers, because it's kind of like, it's like grounding in human, you know?

Or like giving somebody like a little wave when they move aside to you. you can drive past them and like those little moments are nice when they when they honk at you from behind for no reason because they're really impatient about getting to the stoplight a little faster that's what i do yeah i send bees up in me now that i am a road warrior now that i've joined the madmax race you joined the race he honked at me earlier today i hung to i hung to anesthesia i was coming here i tried i tried flashing my high beams at you but it was uh 11 a.m. It's bright at very little impact.

We need like a 60% as loud horn. Yes. With like if the horn is, hey, we need a, oh. Yeah, no, I definitely feel the need to be like a, by the way. Thanks for that. Just see you know. We have two horns, right? There should one be, we should have one horn.

Oh, I thought you said you have two. I thought you were about to tell me that every car has had two horns this whole time. I'm saying we should have two horns. Yes, we should. We should have one that's like, hi, hey there. I need one, I need three. I need, hi, hey there, I need honk. And then I need, I'm sorry.

Oh, no. Like almost a chirp. A chirp. We need a chirp. It would be nice to maybe have like, if I could actually just get a vocal recording. Yeah. Or even just like a megaphone on top of the car. Um, excuse me, that's not really.

Yeah, I'm going to be merging to the left in about five. This is coming out the day after Christmas. Boxing day. Boxing day. Boxing day. For your type. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. For you, you people.

For you lot. Kenyons? No. What the hell? You're from the canyons. It is time to go to a canyon. What is like an ideal day after holiday for you to? A sleep belly

Full belly Oh my belly It hurts Oh no My ideal day See this is why I have an issue With that question My ideal day

If someone comes to my door And they said Hey we found this billion dollars And it's all yours Ooh that's good That one I do that one Oh actually no sorry

One billion minus one So you're not technically a billionaire But you get all the money Well you're tax on me You're taxed on it And so you lose a tad I'll do the billion one I get more of him than him

Okay And I take this, too, as well. What? My ideal post-holiday is eating leftovers, watching movies. You making like a sandwich, like a little stacked turkey chicken, you know? Well, I don't eat meat, but I do love having... Dust. I don't think I've ever really done, like, a sandwich with that kind of holiday food leftovers.

Because it's like too starchy. starchy barchee but I will make a plate of you know leftovers and then like add additional things to it I like mac and cheese

I love mac and cheese is really good mac and cheese thrives in huge portions I think having a mac and cheese that's intimidating is so exciting I want

I bet this probably exists it's someone scooping out a big scoop of mac and cheese 10 hours and it's just the sound of it going You know what? You want that to torture people? I'm sorry.

When I was in high school, that's what we called, like, if you hear someone making out, it was like mac and cheese noises. Macing, return of the back. Is that what? Is it macging? Is it like making out? Is that word macing? What's the origin of macing? It's snogging that I just don't even feel.

Oh, my God. No, it's okay. They're visuals enough. Ten hours of pure mac and cheese. They say bliss. That's some dry mac and cheese. Yeah, not wet enough. Well, that's, um, that's easy mac, I think.

Yeah. I want like a casserole. Yeah, I want, I want, like, little, the microscopic cheese bits, like, surrounding it's woven in, when it's, like, kind of like crumb relayed on the top. Yeah, you need, like, yeah, you need a, you need like a cheese crust on the top of it. Yeah. Yeah. In, in Oakland, there's a whole mac and cheese restaurant called Home Room.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, I've been a homeroom. Yes, homeroom. That was so good. It survived the, I hope it survived. They did, it did. Yeah, it's still there. I guess the overhead's pretty low.

Well, but they, they, it's kind of like a really nice restaurant because they also have a really good vegetable size. It's like such a nag. It's kind of like a really nice restaurant. Well, but you think of mac as like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Very, you know. 100%. No, what you said made sense.

I just think it's a funny like nag for a restaurant. Oh, wow. You dressed up today. Wow, you're almost a real restaurant. I actually dressed down. I really like your shoes. I saw another girl at this club wearing those. Anastasia would never be in a club.

Is it consent? I would never be in a club. Is it concerning that I have too many go-to neg lines? No, look, it's not concerning. It's expected. You are the mean king. I thought you were about to say you are the nigger. Dump the neg bomb?

It is the end of the year. In one week. 2026? I feel like if I watched a movie from the 80s and they referenced 2026 as like that's when we'll have flying cars. We'll get flying cars soon than that. I'd better get like the third run of flying cars.

It's starting to get weird. I hate remembering back to years that now sound like old years and having lucid thoughts at that time. Yes. I am not a fan of the Nauts. Do we have anything better than that? The old?

I just say that the early 2000s. Yeah. I just, I feel in... You could say the turn of the century. In 100 years, well, like the early 2000, they're like, what, 2020? Yeah, but the thing is, we're not going to be alive for that time. That's a problem for them to figure out. Nah, I'll be there.

But if I talk about 1905, I say the turn of the century. You say when you were really alive. That's what I was born. Well, but the turn of the century, what if you're in 2105? And now the turn of the century was five years ago? It keeps moving. It keeps moving. Or it was 100 years ago.

Oh, it was, oh, who's this guy? Oh, Tony Mathelini. Hey, hey, give me a number. I'll tell you how big it is. Five? Pretty small. This guy's pretty small. You read a lot in jail.

My niece did say to me one time, well, you were born last century. And it made me feel the oldest I've ever felt in my life. When kids say, like, people who were born in the 1900. You know what you're doing. You know what you're doing. You know you're hurting me. Should we do a little year and remember? Review.

Your review, we will. Oh, dude, Luke Skywalker. Dude, I love Darth's a friend. His friend. Yeah, his best mate. Dude, what if Darth Mall was like five Yoda stacked on top of each other painted red? Open his little cloak. Hey.

Why was he hanging around with that old man? Darth Mall? No. Well, he also hung out with a very old man. Luke's like, I don't want to do that. He was so whiny. He was. He was a boy.

It feels like. I haven't seen. You've seen it? Fake fan. They're in love. Yoda and Luke? Wasn't Luke's original name going to be Star Killer? Yeah.

And they were like, that's a bit much. Yeah, that is a bit much. Oh, and then Return of the Jedi was going to be revenge of the Jedi. Oh. But also, they saved a bunch of marketing or merchandising costs because it's one letter shorter. Oh, fuck. Is that true? What are they measuring?

George. Why are they measuring things in how many letters? I got to stop moving the hat. Yeah, stop moving the hat. That's crazy. I got a little sneak peek. I got a little sneak peek. Yeah, but can you blur it, Jacob?

You're supposed to look. I'll blur it, but the blur radius is going to be so big that it's like, yeah, wait. It's my whole body and feet. Speaking of blur, I, maybe this. Woo-hoo. All right, nice. Park life. The, like, that Trump speech where he's like, it happened maybe a couple weeks ago as of this recording, but where it's like, the economy, I give it a plus, plus, plus, plus.

Oh, my God. It's one of the weirdest. It's so strange, but then, but I thought he's going to announce he's like retiring. The whole, it was, it was, uh, he was giving a year in review, actually. He was round up, but the thing was, the thing I kept looking at was that his hair blurs, it's a perfect blur into his, uh, his, his, his, his forehead blurs perfectly into his brain. What the hell? It's literally a cloud. It looks like somewhat competent AI. You know what I mean?

It's like, uh, it didn't quite figure out his hair. Actually, it looks like I took the blur tool. And I literally just took away all the detail. God, it's kind of funny looking at him and imagining that he has like a hairline. The funny thing is the sharpness contrast between the center of his face and everything around it. Yeah. There was an article in Vanity Fair. This guy, Christopher Anderson, took a bunch of photos of staff of this administration.

Oh, God. They're so unflattering. It was right before the chief of staff went sick or mode in that interview. Did you see that also? No. She's just saying every quiet part at high volume. It's like J.D. Vance is a fucking idiot, and he's, there's no idea. Oh, I know.

I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Eland fucking yipped up all the time and like, I guess just forgot to say off the record. And then Trump actually defended her, which is interesting. Rides for his day once. One for us. Yeah, he rides. Keeps his circle small like Fortnite.

Whoa. That's a bar for a 16-year-old. Some people are really going to. connect with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep circles more like our graders. There is no shrinking circle in our graders, but you can imagine that could be, you know, something. Rating the arc like I'm Indiana Jones, but also a game that's popular on Steve at this current moment. We'll see some of these truly, like this photographer should get a pulitzer. It evil does warp your face. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's doing something. It's like excreeding maybe out of the

pause or something. Last week we talked about on nights, we talked about, um, Lily Gattis, one of the, the trad wife women that did the inward thing and then became a conservative grifter and then became a conservative propagandist YouTuber. Yeah, that's right. Mouthpiece for question mark, question mark. For question mark. General racism. Did severance or severance?

Succession looks strange. Oh. Jacob, with this on screen, can you quickly open on your tab and search the dark universe? Such dark universe, universal? Marco Rubio stands up like Iron Man. It seems like he's not supposed to be there. Colage photo of all of the stars of the dark universe. It's so funny that the Chief of Staff has the most hair in the room.

And it looks like she's wearing George Washington's hair. She's got that thing that we saw when we watched the nostalgia video, the thing that you put it, you clip in your hair. It's like height or whatever. It's really interesting that those men have very little hair between them. It's the dark universe. Oh, the dark universe. It hit me because

Yeah The Russell Crow's posture in particular Yeah he looks like he's holding Rhinwar's cane He looks mid saying something It's great because none of them are in the same room He looks mid is where I thought you were stopping And I was like I was kidding

He's talking like a 17 year old You used to have respect for the Maximus Ramudius I like him What's the context of this photo This was a there was initially a very bold claimed by Universal, they were going to make a Marvel cinematic universe equivalent, but for the Universal

Monsters. So this was released alongside The Mummy, starring Tom Cruise, and a little bit of Russell Crowe and the mummy herself on the right there. Mother. And then it went absolutely nowhere because the movie was dog shit. Yeah. Okay, quick scroll through. Sorry, I'm derailing us. Should we pop these, all these baddies on the PSL rating? Oh, yeah. Okay. Eight. Easy.

God, the enforcer. This is the fucking movie promo. Yeah. I don't want to like, I don't want to nitpick her appearance or anything, but it looks like her lipstick is smudged and it's like, oh, you know what? You know what I saw from this?

I saw someone zoomed into these photos because they're so high definition to someone else and was like, are these filler like to someone else? And it was like, are these injection sites for filler? And it's like normally they don't show so apparently. I, when I initially. Just so look shocked.

Yeah, I don't get that. The last line of that bio above is very funny. Unlike any chief of staff of all, she is a woman. Last line. Done. Wrapped up. Okay, keep. When I initially saw these, like the actual images going around,

I thought like, oh, that's very funny. People have cropped a larger photo to be funny looking. No. No, by default, it's supposed to look like a passport photo. that you accidentally sat too close to the camera for. No, scroll to the next one. So close. Why would you do?

So close to this. Why would you let that get published, man? We can see every poor. I feel like it's on purpose to be like unflattery. He looks like, sorry, you just touch another thing, and you type, look, Modoc, M-O-K. He looks like that. That's him.

Wait, we should Photoshop his face into them. That one. to scroll left a little bit. That one from the live actual one, there you go. That's how it. Wait, what is this from? That's from Ant-Man and the Wasp. Oh, that's fine.

Into the Tinyverse or whatever it's called. Tiny ant. Geez, he gets way more bio. Lucky. We need to watch Hellbilly Elgy. It's one of the worst one of the whole time. Okay, well, there's a photo like a person. Is, okay.

That's me when I had to do it to him. Oh, that's, bro. Oh, come on, bro. somebody just peed ha ha ha ha he's got like a big piss dine on his pants god I hate oh so cool

that whoa look at those look at those mits holy moly he's got oven gloves on he's got a hot dog fingers I haven't seen anything like that he's like the king Chris whips bro

but a lot of the images in there I was just like sweet Jesus and I don't know if we saw it, but there was also an image of Marco Rubio just kind of like standing like this. And it's like from the side where he's just kind of like standing there looking sad. Marco Rubio has very, and always has, had a very, very strange screen presence where he never looks the right size. And I don't know what it is. It's like the way he holds himself. He always looks like he's a little too small for the door, but a little too big for the chair. It doesn't matter

where he is. At like a little dais or a podium. I'm surprised he's still around. He's like never had charisma or anything It's pretty privilege Yeah, oh right How has he weathered the storm though I mean I feel like I feel like there is a good answer to that And I feel like I know it

But I don't want to talk about this right now All right, you're in review What on the PSL rating We're like a five I was just a eights across the board So we've had many many episodes this year And I don't know if you remember but we started off this year, January 3rd, talking about a true crime croons.

Oh, yeah, that's right. Wow. Was that the beginning of this year? Holy incredible. That was the first episode. That feels like a hundred years ago. It's like, I do like the update's going to be like, it happened and 100 people died. From true crime cases.

Too exciting. One of their slogans was hot sun, cold cases. Right. What's the goss? So here is the update on. the true crime cruise. Wait, wasn't like the gut, one of the people in. No!

No. Who could have seen this coming? Unfortunately. The true crime cruise has been canceled due to unforeseen circumstance. Lack of interest. A horrible idea. Bad premise. Bad premise, bad idea.

Would the effect? Yeah. Oh, what else does sixth man event have on the docket? That's like a basketball reference. Ooh. Live loud. Live loud. Yeah, these are all the other events that they have.

Their events do look like fake, like banana land at sea. Like, what does that mean? It's probably some community. I feel like the way that these things have to work is you have to have someone with like a engaged enough community to make this happen, but not so famous that you would know who any of them are. It's like, because if we were on this for the sad boys cruise, then they'd be like, who the hell are those? Yeah. Wait, what is? There's a J and Silent Bob one.

that fits just about right in my brain. There's also a workaholics one, which I find interesting. Cool, but what the hell? Are they on it? This cruise is important. I feel like they have to be on it. They have to be. The Jane's silent.

Is Kevin Smith? Cruise askew. Just seems like to do one where you are the centerpiece sounds like kind of a nightmare. Because you want to be able to roam around and sit in the sun. It sounds like my nightmare. Yeah, you're going, it's like the biggest birthday party ever, and it goes on for days, and everyone's looking at you. No. So recently there was announced a Jojo Seawalk cruise.

Cool. You can let me do that dance. Get ready to set sail on the ultimate Jojo Siwa fan adventure. All right. World Caribbean's Utopia of the Seas. This is cute. This is, uh, the motion graphics. It's animated like a Tim and Eric's sketch.

But he's like, weird. It's free real estate. I'll say, I think we've had enough time to kind of digest the queen of gay pop, Jojo Siwa, creator of gay pop. I, enthusiastic thumbs up. Every time I see her up to something new, it's very funny. It brings a smile to my face, some weird whimsy, because I don't know who allowed her to have such a bad idea. Didn't she do Big Brother or something?

Really? Celebrity Big Brother. And, like, fell in love. Wow With someone on there Who am I to What did you say it like that Well because she was

Oh the queen of gay pop Yeah right Queen of Gay Pop yeah right Queen of Gay Pop I do remember people Being upset about that And I'm like look Who cares

People are By people when they are Exhibit being by It's like it's You failed us Just for existing Right I saw her one time

While I was driving around Burbank Whoa On the street Her She's all right A boy at the road As fast as the car

I don't want to spread rumors that she is unsafe. She was on the sidewalk. Thank goodness. What were you up to? In a range rover. Following her. No, no. I saw her once.

I was driving next to her because this Tesla pulled up with her face all over it. This motherfucker loves cars. And she was in it? She was in it. That's a horrible plan. That's, by the way, a very tiny Jojo's Ju-O-A-Rruz. Yeah. All right.

So then on February 7th, we, published a podcast called I showed my friend the worst dating podcast ever and this was about the not so PG podcast I remember these guys the like Pick Me Boyfriend Boy. Yeah one of the clips that they Wait is this a guy that has that one like sketch

where he's like uh his girlfriend's like wearing a girl they're wearing like a girlfriend hoodie in a hallway yeah and he's like grabbing her by the neck it's like this very toxic picture of this man who's a bad guy damn where but people still rocking those the girlfriend hoodies with the little thumbholes in them. You know what I mean? I haven't seen one for a minute. I think if you are like

Ariana Grande. If you are if you are an in cell but you are trying your bet like to be a good person you're trying to change there should be a government system that allows two parties one sad but ultimately nice in cell and one raw XD girlfriend hoodie lady to be matched up according to an algorithm. The update on the not-so PG-Pod is that they did cease operations five months ago. Wait, why is this... What did we do? Why is this...

What's happening? Everything we talked about dies. So... No more crews. No more... My powers. All of our favorite things are gone. And he hasn't even posted on his personal TikTok account in months and months.

What? In months and... Anything on the Instagram? Yeah, he's just been like posting photos and stuff. But he's a lot. I guess. I think he's alive. He's alive and he's ripped.

When's that latest? Oh, yeah. I guess. But not a lot. He hasn't posted in April. 33 weeks? That is delicious, by the way. Putting hot sauce on an egg.

It's a good time. Yeah, he hasn't been posting. So he's just being like a model guy. Can we get a wellness check on Peter Vigilante? I forgot that was his name. Well, it's his stage name. You don't want to use your first name if you're a vigilante. Yeah.

My name is John Spillante. I'm a Bruce Wayne Bat All right, we forced March 21st, we forced a chef to watch horny cooking TikToks Josh from Mythical Kitchen died No, no he's fine Josh is fine, he just texted me

We showed Josh Donut Daddy That's right Also Anastasia and I saw Josh A week or two ago Yeah, and we had a great conversation About basketball And his lovely producer, Annalise

Annalise Because you guys had similar names Yeah, we had similar names. We were the two A's and the two Js. The two A's and the two Js. The last couple weeks, we've all had alibis for stuff, I believe, you know. In case anything comes out, we've all been, we're at places where we saw it. And if you're watching this on January 6th, I'm somewhere else.

I'm busy. I'm busy. Let's just say I'm at the Capitol doing an insurrection. Yes. You know what's funny? That was one of the first jokes you made in the first episode this year. Yeah, January 3rd. Yeah, it's a joke.

This is like learning you're an NPC Like you only have like nine dialogue options Oh dude sometimes I will I like talk to Austin about like an edit or something And or or got an end up back And seen myself in a video make the joke twice And you're like I didn't know I did it I do the joke and then five minutes later

I just make the same joke in new phrasing Because I guess I'm just in a fugue state And Austin's like do you actually want this in here twice? Like, hey. So the update on Donut Daddy. Yes, sir. D.D. Is that he was...

Stop! He was nominated and won an Australian TikTok award. Wow. Oh, he's Australian. For being for... Yes. Yeah, I mean, come on. It was like the high quality content award or something.

Well, you know, I think the thing that I learned to respect about Donut Daddy on the Josh episode is that he has great technique. Yeah. And his production is pretty fucking great. Yeah. remember Josh saying something along the lines of this guy's actually doing hard stuff and it's beautifully shot it is very funny is hard stuff is beautiful to say creator of the year for high quality content because it does imply that there's creator of the year for low quality anybody else that wins oh my god he's such a fuck boy oh the one crucifix earring yeah yeah

calling it a crucifix when it's an earring is so funny for a tiny pro forma A bug. There's a tiny bug on there. Oh, fuck I die for your sins. I'll be back. He went in that cocoon for three days. I will say, I often worry that because we just exist in like a content space where so much is motivated by like, yeah, look at this fucking loser, look at this stupid shit.

Like, like leafy core stuff is, I think often misassociated with commentary. I want to say, I love this guy. I think he's awesome. I think he's good at what he does. fun and clearly serving a demo. I just think it's serving. Also, I'm allowed to be grossed out by some of the stuff he does. It's just so, it is so interesting because food just happens to be a realm where once

sexualized it, for me, I'm a bit too fussy. I'm a bit like, don't touch that. I'm meeting it. Yeah, no, absolutely. Yeah, stop sticking your fingers in it suggestively. I know, you don't kiss the yolk. You're crazy bloke. In April, we talked about the Minecraft movie.

Hell yeah, we did. And it has been announced that there's going to be a Minecraft movie, too. Yeah. Hell, yeah. It made like a trillion dollars. In 2027. So that'll be fun. I mean, it is a fun movie that I had a good time watching that I don't want to have to decide if it's good or not.

I think that that was a lot of like the things that we were talking about on the show. It's like I don't feel like a traditional scale is appropriate for this. I think rating scale. I enjoy sometimes, like a numerical rating scale or something like that as a like conduit for a conversation in the same way that I don't believe in like zodiac signs or astrology or anything like that. But I've had plenty of interesting conversations while someone does like a tarot reading for someone, right? It's just it's a format. But then I do feel similar to that. like some people do have a weird dogmatic relationship with rating scales and the content of

a film and what's like valuable and what's objectively good and whatever are the chad movie enjoyer yeah i was right yeah exactly watching that and then i have these other things i really like that i guess past the smell test on pretentiousness and then i have other things that i really enjoy that are just slop if something knows what it is then i don't judge i i judge it on its own terms on what it aims to accomplish. I'll save my cynicism for stuff I actually care about. Right, right. I'm going to pretend.

Because applying cynicism to the Minecraft movie is a wasted effort. Yeah, especially because it always takes the form of like, it's just a corporate product. Yeah. Like, yeah, they, they know that. Look at us all engaging in capitalism as I drink my 96 ounce cola

at the movie theater. With Cole Kidman, hey, we go to movies because they're corporate products. Drink up. Javis. Javis. Don't fall asleep tonight. Don't fall asleep tonight.

I'll be there. Promise. On June 6th, we talked about Brendan Abernathy in an episode called the Benson Boone effect. I really hope Brandon Abanathy is, first of all, okay. Because right now the only non-casualty has been the horny chef. But I thought Brendan Abernathy, again, this is like not all cringe and not all riffing and, like, banter has to be. so sinister and I feel like so much of the like Brendan Abernathy

stuff I saw was hateful in a way that I don't I have access to I just think it's a kid on the way in three or something in three and in three I think yeah kid on the way but it was called like summer we'll get married in the year in the summer big big stump you know barefoot stop

yeah it was just corny and corny's funny corny's fine also Benson Boone I have uh I've seen I've since seen a lot of acoustic or covers that Benson Boone has performed. And I do believe Benson Boone is generationally talented as a singer. Yeah, he's very... And I don't say that lightly.

It is interesting to mash that with the kind of corporate box that he is marketed in and kind of occupies, but and maybe that aspect isn't my cup of tea. But I saw him cover in Adele song and I was like, this fucking rules. It's like, close your eyes and it sounds like fucking Adele. I mean, I like, yeah, again, I don't know, maybe just because I'm going to hold it, but cynicism feels like it takes up so much more calories than just lightly enjoying something. Granted, it can be more fun sometimes to talk about stuff in more, like, grand terms. Well, we're, the world is ending, and I feel like I need to save my cynicism for that stuff.

Yeah, for the stuff, but like, uh, hauntingly tight photos of J.D. Vance's giant, goolish mug. A friend of mine wanted to watch Labyrinth. I hadn't seen it since I was a little kid. And so we watched it. And if you haven't seen The Labyrinth, David Bowie plays like a main role in it. Welcome to my Labyrinth.

And he also sings a lot of the songs in it. And so they're remaking the Labyrinth. And we talked about, okay, who is our current David Bowie? who can act, but is also a huge, well-respected singer. Like, I don't know that we have one, but I'm just trying to think about it. Yes, Morgan.

I mean, Ariana Grande. But Ariana Grande isn't respected for her artistry, and I don't know, not that that's not, I actually have a big fan of Ariana Grande's music. But we're speaking from a, in reality, this is not. broadly Ariana Grande isn't, isn't elevated in her artistic respect the way that like a David Bowie it was. I agree with you, but I'm like, does it have to be a man? He's the Goblin King.

That's who he plays. Could it, it would it be a controversial gender swap thing? It has to be a man. It's the main character. It has to be Timothy Salome. You can't spell man without me. But he's not good. No offense to Timmy.

but I saw the Wonka movie But what about a That you and you're calling someone a wanker And you're British Manka I saw the one-wonka movie Wonka You're such a Wonka

So since we talked about Brendan Abernathy He in September released an album And he also released a music video For one of his new songs This is by the way That may as well say The Legend of Zelda

Yeah Like, oh Okay, he's lighting and fire, he's writing and fire, he's writing. He just kind of sounds like he's doing a bit of an Irish thing, doesn't he? Maybe he's Canadian. I'm pretty sure he's American. Yeah. Brendan Abanathy.

I mean, that's pretty in there, you know. Maybe Scottish. There's nothing like crazy to react to, but he has stopped stomping. No, we crushed his dreams. It does appear. We stomped his dreams out. It's not for me. And, but, you know, I think we said everything that needs to be said.

I wish him the best. Luce Wade's, too. I think he, I don't know if he's from Texas, but he lives in Texas now. I mean, go off, King. Go off, King. He's doing his music, though, and that's doing his thing. Yeah, that's the dream, right? I hope he's living his dream, and I hope he's happy.

He's going on tour this fall. Look at that. He'll be going on a tour in this fall. And he'll be married with kids in three. Three, two. Oh, yeah, that's right. Three falls. It was just three.

Finally, on September 19th, we published an episode called Instagram Comedy has hit a new low. Oh, who was this? And Jarvis sent an update. Ah. That guy. Wow, it comes full circle. And so two of our favorite people. Yeah, wow, this was crazy because we just talked about her last week on nights, Patreon.com, so Subway's Nights.

And so they published this very fun. I don't remember his comedy. What's his comedy? Well, comedy's generous, but it was, it was like, imagine if a guy was like a conservative guy. Imagine if a guy had really bad opinions about women. Yeah. And then there was like a lib was angry at him, you know, something like that.

Like, oh, okay, I've invented someone in my head and let's get mad at them. He has a big mustache, but the ends of his mustache do the same blendy thing. Trumps, it does. You know who he reminds me of? Yes. She's looking at names. Aaron. Angry Patriot X, though, does sound like a gamer tag.

Yeah, that type. So it's cool. Undescore. Rip Taylor. He's a young Rip Taylor. Okay, that's another Anastasia pool. You Google Rip Taylor. He has the same mustache.

It's going to be an actor from like the 1920s. He's actually dead now, but. Well, was he an actor in the 1920s? Did he die after we talked about him? He does. I see. You see the mustache connection? Yeah.

To his nose. Rip Taylor, I think gay, comedian who used to throw confetti on like laughing in the 70s. Oh. Laughing which Ronald Reagan was on. Uh-huh. I've definitely seen a clip. What was it, Richard Nixon? Like that's laughing.

Like he talks like he's laughing? I remember that. And if you remember, this guy's handle was woman propaganda. And his whole thing is deep-bunk. the internet's most viral feminist propaganda. They're perfect for each other because they're both watching videos that are probably sketch comedy or taken out of context or AI and then projecting their propaganda and just hitting the conservative like they're hitting the line.

Yeah, willfully not understanding something because, A, they wouldn't get it if they they don't understand comedy so they wouldn't see why it's a joke. Well, there wouldn't be a video. They'd have to stop in the middle of one of those videos because on the Patreon, We watched one of her videos and we did maybe two minutes of research and found out that it was a sketch. Based on just hearing the videos you're talking about and going, this is not how people talk. That doesn't sound right.

Yeah. And then we thought it it was a sketch. But if in the middle of one of my videos, I'm responding earnestly to something that is clearly comedy or something that I find out as comedy or fake or something, I have to scrap that thing because my whole premise is busted. It's credibility gone. actually really anxious about the uh when we record the friend AI video um that me and jacob recorded a handful weeks ago thank you people for watching we were going to record it a little

earlier or like it was a topic i'd written down before but i kept kind of delaying because i was waiting for the announcement that it's like a black mirror secret promo or something because it was so poorly put together and like this might be a secret trailer for something that i just wanted to make sure it wasn't. That is like 10 times the due diligence that these guys have ever done. It's what's crazy is I have a feeling and I have not watched this, but I have a feeling that this is going to present as convincing parody. And it's similar to when we were watching his content for the first time.

It took a little work to figure out that he was actually doing propaganda rather than parody. Yes. Because we live in this weird like late. of irony internet where finding someone's true intention is both difficult and important sometimes. And it doesn't, we're also post-irony and by saying, well, yeah, I mean, he's obviously like exaggerating. Okay, but he is saying these things and means these things, but is a little too cowardly to say it with his chest. But yeah, but it's also a bit, so you just took the bait. Oh, right. I'm scarecrote or whatever. I'm kind of happy they found each other. Yeah, it's nice.

they can have a one medium-sized child. Let's see. You are truly alone. All the young white guys need to team up because it is us against the world. Everyone hates us. Jacob, right. You guys need to wake up to that.

Dicker, that's mean. Why did you edit his voice to pitch it up? I like that there's a, there's a telephone behind him that would be, looks like a person and would be a character in like a little toaster, a brave little toaster. It's the nervous telephone.

I think it would be a brave little. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I was going to say Brave Little Toaster, prequel. The cowardly fool. Right, because this, this, it's a good point. This does predate the type of toaster and Brave Little Toeat. Maybe not the invention of the Toaster, but that Toaster is definitely a new school toaster. Exactly.

It's, it's very funny seeing her completely out of her element set-wise. Yeah. Because when we watched her, she's, she's very, like, 2010 YouTube the way she shoots. Like, she's dead, center frame really close up. And she has, like, West Elm decor. This is odd. This is like she's in, like,

this is a hanging out in a cousin's bedroom energy. This is a cabin Airbnb set. The caption on this is that she is, the caption said, we're making young white men, we're forcing them to get, with women who are run through or whatever. Jesus.

She is a single mom. It's different though. Well, that's like that clip from the whatever podcast where I can't remember. It was like some like conservative dude whose wife had like mother children. Children of multiple fathers and then he got called out about it. And then he just resulted to name calling. He freaked the fuck out.

Because it because it betrays his like puritanical like worldview that he preaches. There's a there's a. a cleansing water when you do something. It's like, yes, that's wrong, but I'm the protagonist. So I get what you're saying. But no, in my case, it's fine. It's actually okay. Don't point out things that are true. Like when it's like Obama wearing the brown suit versus or the tan suit versus Trump doing anything he's ever said. Yeah, out loud. Yeah. And it's like, again, not to defend Obama, but it's more just like it's about who, what team you're on and how you respond. Which is such a stupid way to live. But people are doing it.

The young white man, you are truly alone. All the young white guys need to team up because it is us against the world. He's not young anymore. You're truly alone, but also you can team up. Okay, problem solved. You're truly alarmed, but you could team up and they're against us.

I'm sorry, you were no longer a young white man. Yeah, sorry about that mustache for me to believe that. We're not young white man either. We used to be. Yeah, used to be. Well, half of one. The two of you made up one. One young white man.

Wake up to that fact. We need to become racist. and we need to take charge. Chill. It is funny. Be calm. I don't know if there's, it's remarkable seeing a white guy

who's talking white. Yeah, he's like putting it on. He's like, about to order a mayonnaise sandwich. Yeah, he sounds like David Cross. Also, is he giving short king energy or is she giving tall girl later? He is a short king, he's 5-7. 5-7 high-value alpha male.

Hell yeah. That's right. That actually messes with his PSL, though, I believe. And by the way, don't buy into this propaganda that all white girls are just whores. Let's go to fucking Columbia and get a cheap hooker. Yeah.

This past, what are we talking about? His whole, did you, the moment she started saying this, I think he noticed maybe that there is a, the tone is misaligned, because his semi-character performance thing, voting up against her completely genuine, like nakedly genuine statement,

it's like he heard a car backfire or something. He suddenly goes like, oh yeah, okay, I'm gonna watch him. But also, what are, What are we talking about? These damn broads. It's like they're just jumping around. You're alone.

Don't become a passport, bro. Okay. Actually, I agree, don't become a passport, bro, because that's weird. Just don't do any of these weirdly aggressive, miserable things. Yeah. And by the way, don't buy into this propaganda that, Oh, white girls are just horrors.

Let's go to fucking Columbia and get a cheap hooker. Yeah. This passport girl shit, that's as Jewish. That's Jewish as fuck. That's a Jewish sciop to make you have mongrel babies. Dude, she's, she's, her pace is so beyond her. Yeah, ding, ding, d, d, d, d, d, d, d, d, d, d, d, it's like, uh, it's, it's, um, holy shit, wait, I, it's hard.

Why did she mention Jewish? I, so I think that, so that's the issue is that, like, the, now the, the, the, the, the, the line that they're having to tow is, like, this weird, like, there's this split, I think, in the right, where people are you know because uh Israel has been very aligned with America and Democrats and Republicans have always like gone to bat for Israel and there's a huge like lobby uh APAC right but then now there's this split with Trump because they're starting to do and there's this there's like the Kansas Owen conspiracies and stuff and now like You know, Candace Owen specifically in service, although she kind of flipped on them today.

Well, then she unflipped. She's been a little silly, Candace, come on. But I think there's like a ultimately all that people generally want is clarity and a feeling of like sureness. And truthfully, Israel is not the cultural consensus anymore in the U.S. is. Yeah, in this, in this, it used to just be this like, If you go back to, like, um, Zoron's, like, election and how Andrew Cuomo, uh, like, if you, if you go to that mayoral debate where they go around the line and they go, like, where is the first place you'll visit as president? And then everyone says Israel. It's like, never the Bronx or something related to your job. They'll go to the boroughs. They're like, oh, I don't know, Japan. I'm going on vacation. But it was weird. Everyone, everyone answered Israel.

It was because it's like it they are it's a signaling posture yeah because at one point in time that was free aura when the cultural consensus was uninformed enough and it kind of widespread it's a little like referencing like Christianity as a free point winner is no longer as effective as it was right because that as a passive victory just isn't the presence not that Christianity is not a presence but as far as a like cultural consensus goes, like that used to be associated directly with virtue and traditionalism. And now you say that and you're actually demagnitizing a bunch of people that potentially could have been interested. Yeah, but this is like now we're back into the Alex Jones style anti-Semitic conspiracy. Yes, because it's clear and digestible. It's like, nice and like, oh, I'm a Nazi? Great. That's it.

I just have to be that. Brilliant. But notice how this is a few seconds. speech that takes like so much time to unwind all of the all of the like dog whistly stuff that they're doing and not even to mention the racist you just said about mongro babies yeah it's like it's it's the pace the internal rhyme scheme yeah it's just yeah this is the this is the m&m of internal rhyme of internal racism he just he just can't match up he's a keep up uh jv star to division tree she's LeBron.

That's just like, no. I don't want to hear his response to what she just said. Right. Do we think we cover that? Also, like, anti-Semitism and stuff, it's like, it, uh, obviously, like the state of Israel and what it's doing in Palestine is a genocide and that's horrible. And Benjamin Netanyahu is, you know, a war criminal and stuff. But then also, uh, uh, don't be anti-Semitic.

It's like, both of these things can be true. And Israel does not represent all British people. One of the most anti-Semitic conscious actions by the West has been to assimilate Zionism into being Jewish because then it has the double benefit for evil people of devaluing people, debaluing Jewish people domestically and then valuing Zionism from a distance. All of this is stoking flames of attack. it's creating enemies and it's it's uh creating like you know when these horrific attacks like the bondi beach shooting and stuff happen you like these cultural flames even though that attack was in australia it's like there is this like internet culture bleeding into real life culture and radicalizing people who don't even know what they believe they're just like taking these

like talking points hook line and sinker and taking them at face value when and a lot of times these people are just grifting for money and they don't care what they're saying That's why it can shift so easily That's why the talking line can shift so easily Because it really is just about who's paying You know or what type of thing is This is children's television This is jingling keys

It doesn't matter They're literally just saying keywords It's like that That like that game you can play with your dog Where you pretend to be in a conversation With someone else But you say all their favorite words I'm trying to walk

And the dog's like There's someone just sat here And they're just like Treat Oh right white replacement I'm trying to imagine like if I'm listening to

something about Magic the Gathering or football in the background and we're talking about yeah and I'm hearing words I'm like ooh like quarterback ValgaVos you know like Plainswalker

and I'm like washing the dishes or whatever and I'm like yeah like someone hearing like white replacement theory and going yeah that's the stuff yeah replacing that with like mad Playsing that with the audiobook of the bell curve or something. Yeah. 1776 report.

Ooh, yay, yiffy. It's just so it is, it's childish, and so you can't, it's so hard to engage with in the same way that, like, if a kid can't articulate what's upsetting them and they start crying, you can't really fax and logic them out of it. You have to go like, okay, so maybe they're hungry. I'm going to have to kind of cry out this code. And then these are the babysitters that are just like, I'm just going to have a cigarette. But this is literally like Rorschach test shapes and. sounds like you're not saying anything it's like feels like a i generated music where it's like you're hitting oh i like it when a song does that part that just says all the

keywords yeah yeah uh it's almost you know we've already mentioned it but like she has a mixed race child and oh hey well why that why is that important well because what she just said then that's why it's important it wasn't until they entered the arena i'm just like it scares me for a child because yeah if someone has such dehumanizing rhetoric like to call people mongrels and wait didn't she say the most jewish thing is to go like to columbia which i don't even know what she said it's a jewish sciop adding anything to their pathetic vocabulary allows them to do so much damage we should trick them we should make them think that like soup is like a subtext for genocide or something it feels like i'm watching bad improv

Yes, yeah, it is exactly like that. Then, um, a dinosaur! Yeah, and I feel like it's, I feel like it's abusive. Yeah. If she's saying this stuff to her child, which I don't know if she is. Yeah, I have to imagine she's not.

If her child ever hears her saying this stuff, that's not okay. I would go over and say she definitely doesn't around her child and definitely doesn't in social situations in general, because the way that people compartmentalize this is by attention is by attaching it to work in some way or like a certain setting.

Hey, it's just how we talk around the office. I know, but there are certain subconscious things. You know, I'm just even thinking about like Colin Kaepernick talking about his parents and saying like, I love my parents. They did the best job they could, but there are certain things that they had instilled in their brains that made it that they would,

talk about black people as criminals and stuff like that, or like, don't hang out with that bad element or whatever. Well, they're going to express, it's like, uh, educating through exclusion, right? They're just like, um, yeah, we don't listen to that kind of music in this house. Yeah. And then you're like, oh, I guess she just doesn't like it. And you don't ever really interrogate that. And you're like, yeah, rap's just kind of aggressive.

And you're like, oh, I guess rap's kind of aggressive. And then you extrapolate that when you're a little old or two, black people are kind progressive it's it's and it just seeps it's like you know seeping in between like the lines yeah the cracks she's firing out like she's like uh like coughing and she's got like those pores on the side shooting out gas it's just like it's just exhausting yeah okay and then yeah it's like secondhand smoke for racism yeah that's a great analogy uh give you some more of her a good point if i was non white and uh i wasn't in this battle like i am you know if i was a black dude i would be a passport bro Yeah. For non-whites, I get it.

Because you can go to a third-world country and get a much hotter girl. Wait, look at her face. Yeah, she's not fucking with an American with, like, more money. You can pull something way better in a third world country. But she's going to be brown. Did she say, but she's going to be brown? But you're already a non-white person. You can't fix that.

Yeah, yeah, you did because he just forbid it. But she, but you'll. So, okay, sorry. Are we replacing the white people, or are we not? because there's no ideological consistency here. I think she really. If you are a person of color in America, you can't get a hot woman because a white woman would never get with you. You have to go to Columbia.

I think there is something. But then she's saying as a downside that the child is going to be brown, which sucks because she has a brown child. Yeah. And then also if the alternative is for a person of color to, uh, procreate with a white person in America, now they're replacing the whites. Right. There's no winning. There's no positives.

And like, essentially, they're just like, who can we get rid of? The issue ultimately, the reason that this is ice cream and ketchup is that they, he is still, I mean, even the suit that he's wearing, his little presentation, his little set, he's still doing the, uh, referring to himself as like a young guy. he's still doing the like early Tucker, early Shapiro respectability, precocious kid aesthetic. And the important part of that is that your homework, you're racist with stats and you're racist with evidence and fake stats, fake evidence. But the point is you're supposed to like fake intellectualize something so far where that's the argument you're making. And she is pure undistilled 100% proof alcohol. There is nothing. she is she is she is chemical burn shit yeah he can't access that because he is a

bick lighter and she is napalm and so he keeps trying to engage me like yeah and you know and you know she's unrefined she's newer to the game and he's like I'll say you know that video he's like what's up nigger and she's like I think we should um they should be slaves again and he's right it's uh it's the quiet part and the saying the quiet part and the saying the quiet part out loud like they they also it's the obama translated uh sketch right it's the obama anger translator the book the other thing is that like they probably just have different perspectives because again this is all improv and like they might not even agree and it to me appears if they didn't discuss beforehand they'd be talking about nor do i even know what they're talking about right now that's the

other thing too it's just a big stew right they're just like keep throwing stuff in there. It's like, wait, what are you talking about? This is kind of a D as like a essay. This is a, um, they've also made like just a very basic production error here where like the way that this set is made, it's, you know, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, I'm here to present the information. They should be in angled chairs. They need lower chairs. They should be a, it should be conversational because then they're throwing these ideas around. Instead, it's like, we're set next to each other and we're just like, welcome to say. Bad boys. And I're like, welcome to Nadgoy, Doyles. Oh, they're not on the same page, but they're sit, we're sitting here as though we're presenting something. Do you think she's pushed for their back on purpose? I think their chairs don't scoot in because of those long, those big arms. I know, but he seems more forward than she is. I think it's related to like her skirt or something that she's wearing there. Well, she also might be wearing heels. So her knees are higher and they'll hit the. Yeah, he's also a short king and it looks like he's sinking into the floor. But the.

and that's fine. So you think their chairs are actually even? No, she's definitely further back. Her leg, I mean, it's, you know, but during saying that like, it's probably like she can't get her legs under there

because they're like higher up. And so she has to scoot back to make sure that there's, he's actually stood up. It just looks hard to have a conversation when someone is in front of the other person. He's standing on his tip he does. Normally when people are framed like this,

they're reading from a prompter. Yeah. And they're trying to have a conversation, but they're talking at each other. Yeah, imagine it's like a, welcome to CBS News and then one person is doing a different news story that's got like warring news stories.

Urban teens are ransacking the local Best Buy. He's blue jello bad for your kids. Yeah, one of them goes, like the urbans, the other goes, we should deport black people back to Africa. George Bush does not care about black people. It is. It's that. It's literally that. Mike Myers and Kanye. But she's going to be brown.

But if you're a black dude or if you're a brown dude, you know, that's fine. Because you cannot avoid it. What do you mean that's fine? If you're white, we're going to have to wipe up these hose. You're going to have to suck it up and wipe up one of these American white girls. God, it's like this bile building up. But it'll be okay.

Because your race matters that much. Yeah. Your race. In 10 generations, your line will have continued. There's this thing that happens sometimes when people like lose a lot of weight and then they can be fatphobic or like self-hating. because they're projecting to a past self and they never, you know, I'm psychoanalyzing them, but a lot of times it's like you never loved yourself

as you were and you place a lot of your value on your body and stuff. Yeah. I feel that way about her with the fact that she has a mixed race child. Yeah. It feels like she's overcompet, and I'm psychoanalyzing and I'm sorry,

but it feels like she's overcompensating for having like had a child with someone who wasn't pure. pure of white. From the beginning, I mean, that very first clip was like, I, she's complaining about her friends having non-white partners, which is like, well, I, first of all, I don't believe they're still currently friends with them. This is like the rhetoric you throwing around.

But I like, he, I, this is actually a way weird a clip than I expected. He is incredibly uncomfortable. Like, that lasts 10 seconds. Well, they're both uncomfortable because when he's talking, she's like, like, it's like, she has a look in her face that's, that's like, ugh, the browns. Yeah, she's waiting for his keywords. You'll say like, and then a black, yeah. Like, how can you be so stupid to talk about, well, the baby's going to be brown?

Yeah, the guy was black. In this scenario, but she just couldn't hold back. It was just like, it's like, oh, yeah, but the scenario was something you'd actually be okay with, but the keyword got it. It was just like, black people shouldn't procreate. I don't think you're saying that. It's like an allergy. She just couldn't even handle hearing the. premise of it. But I mean, look, those last five seconds, he moves around like me. Like,

his posture is horrific. Like, how did you release this? The white race must be preserved at all causes. And by the way, girls become hosed when they don't have a guy putting them in line. I'm about saying go out and get some radical insane liberal. Like, that's beyond the pale. But most girls will kind of meld into who you are. Is radical liberal even a thing? Radical liberal feel like two opposing terms. So I thought it works if you're using, like, the 2016 version of liberal where that just meant leftist or whatever, where you could say that, yeah. This does feel like when, like, the AI makes, it's like not passing the three-finger and glorious bastards count. I disagree with these pastors telling all these young men to wait till they're married because none of the girls are virgins.

She's going to be able to just totally control you. You have no idea what you're getting into. With her evil vagina? Yeah, sexual experience. You know, that's so, that's actually really interesting. Because what he, that's not one I've heard a lot, like that particular breakdown of it. Because I thought the whole point, at least, you know, this trad bullshit is like, she's not pure in that way. This one's driven way more by fear.

This is like, if she's at tech for someone else, maybe your dick is too small. Maybe she's smarter than you. Maybe she's going to be better than you. You know, if you're training a dog and you offer it a treat, a lot of times it'll run through all of its tricks. It'll spin and then all of a look. That's what I feel like this is. I feel like they're like literally spinning the wheel saying something and then being like, does this get the treat? Does this activate something?

Like, like, yep, black passport tourist Jewish, wife replacement, 977, no, literally. Yeah, it's like, it's the. word cloud and then she like gives him the little treat he's like okay okay it's it's uh no mix baby this her face looks like i can't believe i did this to go to japan this is what it was japan vlog and now i'm saying all this bullshit yeah if that japan blog had popped off this guy sat by himself man if you're a woman try and stay pure but as a man um you know none of the girls in this country are virgins you're not going to find a virgin wife it's speaking in absolutes he's saying first of all that doesn't make sense because if the

If women stay pure and the guys have a bunch of sex, then there are no pure women. I'm as guilty if this as anyone. Sometimes when you have to do a little bit of off-the-cuff talking, you start with what you think is a cogent idea, you follow the golden path. That's always what I do. And then you get to the end and you're like, oh, this is completely not even what I thought I was going to say. Oh, no.

Or you're trying to like come up with a bit and then halfway through, you're like, no, there's nothing here. Wait, scrambling through the dark. Is there some other joke? He started that with, I'm just kind of kind of. Mero what she's saying and then now has found himself like you you gotta make sure that you find a virginal wife but they they also don't exist and so you should you should also sleep with a lot of people but daughter passport or you should do you should be a passport bro if you're not why if

you're white you have to keep the white race going though oh my god okay keep way wait for marriage but don't wait for marriage men aren't run through men do the running through but uh he's like yeah i made a mistake. Let me toe the line once more. This guy has, he has all the physical mannerisms of Michael Scott. Yeah, it's like, um, Ron Burgundy. Yeah. Ron Burgundy minus two feet of height.

Yeah. Charisma. Up five octaves. Yeah. Go rack up a body count and then that was the point. One of these ran through white women. I'm sorry.

We have no choice. This is the situation. What a weird for sexual nihilism. Interesting that, yeah, he went. And he wrapped it up with the iconic insult nihilist point of like, nothing can be fixed, so he might as well be shitty. And she, you could see her disengaging. She was like, no, I thought I was Abe Braun.

We were doing that we can win by destroying the other ones. He's like, oh, no, I, I like got on his inso pulpit. I'm too afraid. I can't do anything. He's crazy? So, yeah, the boy guys need to team up to have sex. I'm sure that's not totally fucked up. Okay, guys.

That's the episode. He got taller. So. There. Jump scam McGuinness. Oh, maybe this was like, they were just showing a clip. Wow, that's a lot of restraint. Notice we couldn't make it 30 seconds without doing a 20-minute bit.

They watched the whole three-minute video and then said, so that was something. Yeah, it's almost like Gavin McGinnis has nothing of substances. Man, why did it have to be that guy that stuck around? So it's a five. Him and Hornie Chef. I guess Hornie Chef was. Dude, yeah, no, bring back freaking the boys who like are afraid to eat pussy or whatever. It's actually my favorite thing in the entire world.

Oh, no, they love it. Yeah, it's like actually, oh, yeah. I would have, I don't know about you guys. I would kill myself. My tier list, yeah, definitely prefer Pick Me Boyfriends to whatever that was. Pick me, Pigmy Boyfriends is, uh, it's at least charming, I guess, like, or interesting. Man, we got, I love, what's that name, Gilly or something? Uh, Gilly. Um, it's, uh, Lily Gattis.

Oh, Gilly Ladis. Um, that's, her Scottish alternate. Oh, yeah, we got given in the well. Gile Ladis. You got, don't mix with the oil. Don't mix with any other non-whites. I'm like, it's funny because I don't. It's like I can't help myself getting so political

because it's like, what even is this? You know what I mean? I mean, it's insane that this even has to, the fact that what we're saying now could even be considered a political bet as opposed to base principles of life that we've all agreed on. It's like it's base, it's, it's, uh, base principles.

And then like somebody just comes along as like, oh, yeah. Water on earth, are you serious? There's fucking loads of it, I thought. Around earth, bro. That's why I always hate when people say, I'm not political. I'm not political or don't be political or I don't like political topics when you're talking about like civil rights or something. Yeah, it's like these things just, it affects every aspect of our life.

And I think that it can be irresponsible. to completely ignore it. Obviously, like, things can be pretty dark and sometimes you want to take care of yourself and tune out simply for your own well-being to, like, not go crazy. And that's totally valid. But requesting, like, cleansing, other people cleansing it from their palette and asking people to not make you encounter it is like a little childish and it's pretty dangerous. I've never considered this a political show, but just because of, the nature of the show and talking about our own feelings and the world and the forces and powers that are uh shaping you know our experiences and in in systems it's like it just comes up so i mean to be completely honest with you i would worry that you know most people would i'm sure assume the best like most fans would probably like be fairly generous but i think there's a decent

number of people that would, you know, assume that we hold some shitty opinions if we don't talk about it at all. Like, if we don't... I'm sure I've got a shitty opinion somewhere. I mean, if we don't candidly say, like, yes, Israel is committing a genocide. Yeah. People would reasonably be able to say, like, these guys maybe aren't saying something for a reason because it was an avoid-the-topic game for so long.

Or, you know, and it's like, I know many people who, like, lost lots of sponsorships and things like that due to maybe being outspoken about certain issues. And that can be scary, but fortunately, like, one, that hasn't really, we haven't really felt pressure in that way. Two, we have our Patreon. People have been very supportive. We wouldn't change it. There. Something this principle, we wouldn't change you the way of course. Exactly.

It's like, it's like, it's, um, I think I feel very. you know, just it's a few months or a month removed from Thanksgiving, but I feel very grateful that the entire time that we've done this show, I felt like I can authentically be myself and share kind of like my mostly uncensored thoughts. And you can kind of see over the years how that develops as well. Yeah. I mean, that's ridiculous how lucky I feel getting to do this show in any capacity, but especially for as long as we have and especially it being as core as it is and like the month removes and thanksgiving i am extremely thankful to you obviously and everything we've built here i mean i think part of the reason we get to be authentic is because we get like an

even like a thin veil of separation that comes from the team so thank you to you guys it's like couldn't do it without the our sad boys is this conversation right like it and then like some meta stuff on top of it but the actual when i think of sad boys i think of sitting talking on on a microphone. I don't think of a premiere project or or even like even though it's like we try to have we want the show to grow and we want to make position ourselves best for the long term and be strategic where appropriate and responsible the I still get to think about the show as chatting with my friends. Yes, yeah. About some stuff that's on my mind and I think that that's like a super big privilege that is not lost upon me. I was just bragging.

to my friend Harrison. Take that Harrison. Fuck you. About how... He's a baby. Oh, no. No, he's not. Sorry.

He's bragging to a baby. He's a really funny move. Sorry, is it bad that I guess? Like, I feel like... You're broke. I do have to say nine times out of ten. Yes. It's a baby.

Finally. Someone says it. The exception to the rule. Harrison is an exception to the rule. But I was bragging to him this morning that I was like, I feel. very proud a lot of times with the work that we do

to try and like counter the bullshit on the internet and it's not I'm not saying that we're you know making any difference because who knows but but it's just like

offering an alternative to Lily Gaddis that's great Just like seeing though, like I think one thing that we do talk about a lot internally is just like what are what is our place in the media landscape in the pipeline of like commentary that could shape someone's opinions or worldview and the responsibility that we hold with that. And like one of the things about being overtly political is like not wanting to play too much into punching at people who are like fans of your little. Gattesses of the world or who think Andrew Tate has some good ideas or something. Right.

Because a lot of times those speak to a larger systemic problem or issue. And if we can acknowledge that those people are reaching an audience for a reason, then we can acknowledge that at the door and try to also appeal to someone to give like that alternative perspective. Yeah. It's the most, if we want to say, like, actual impact-wise, yeah, the most productive part of the funnel is right at the top. Yeah. And being like, I think sad boys, in my opinion, is not, like, the mission of sad boys is not, it's ultimately just hanging out, right?

But the mission of like the tone we take or the things we care about or the things we don't include, right? Or like the tone that we take, I want the show to be helpful cousin, helpful older cousin. Not dad, not brother, not like not like not as close or like parental as that, but much more just like, hey, come and hang out and feel normal so you can try and emulate or appreciate that that exists. I also think that the show really is just like conversations that we would normally have about stuff that we think about, talk about experience. with the added awareness that we do have a platform and we do and people are and we're very lucky but people are like listening to what we say internalizing that connecting with it not connecting with it whatever but like uh so any of the kind of non organic or excuse me any of the anything that's not kind of you know how your everything changes when you put on a camera

where people are different. It's like, I'm proud of the fact that we're mostly the same, except for with a little more awareness of who's hearing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Well, yeah, it's like the different gene hanging out at home versus at like a cafe. Yeah. It's like, well, it's not like Yale too much.

Yeah, right. It's like if I'm home alone, I'll admit it. I'll burp and I won't even cover my mouth. Also, I have to say when we're hanging out, you two talk less than I talk more. Well, I mean, but that's more like a legal obligation. Give me that. I'm just saying, I'm extremely talkative.

But it's, but we love that. I mean, a lot of us because we are making fun of you, but in a loving way. I think most importantly, I want to say thank you to all of our patrons over at patreon.com. so sad boys where you can get an extra episode of sad boys every week sad boys nights for only five dollars a month use your discretionary entertainment spending if you so please this week the unique cell that i will use to push to that website in order to generate revenue would also provide content with b me removing my hat and showing the excellent haircut i gave myself that every time i move my hat a little bit i check with my finger to see if the hair that i kind of super

missed is exposed did i say that right for me that was in that was in the That was from the heart. Yeah. Also, we're going to be cutesy on nights. Yeah, we're going to be cutesy and we have a holiday party. Office holiday party. Again, there's gifts from Santa. I don't know what they are.

They just appeared here. Yeah, Santa came. They spawned in. Bros. Sorry, just to take things full circle. Ho-ho-ho. Don't. What the hell?

This is so rich. Yeah, we don't. Right, but didn't you listen to them? You can't get with the ho-ho. Or actually, you have to give with the-ho- and you shouldn't and you've got to travel to it but don't hey this Christmas adopt a ho wow well said we in every episode oh yeah go ahead office holiday party it's gonna be really fun gonna be good time um we in every episode sandwich with a particular phrase we love you and we're sorry

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