Sad Boyz - This Show Is A Joke

Episode Date: May 12, 2023

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Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. Thanks, man. Thanks. I never thank you for introducing me. For like saying, hey, welcome. Oh, yeah. But I didn't introduce you, actually. You've got to introduce yourself. I just said that I'm happy to be here. Okay. You are here every week. And I am thrilled.

Okay. So this is Jordan. I'm Jordan. Today, we're at our new space. We're at the new place. We're in a big old room. And yeah, I moved. That's the big story. Guilty. Guilty. The rumors are true. We tried to make it look as much like the old place as possible. We have the ramen blanket. We very almost didn't. Yeah, and then B.B. remembered.

That was a risk. And yeah, there's a lot of boxes in the background, but you know how moving is. Hey, man. Same couch, same blanket, same bad posture on my part. Same voice. Contributing all the value that we need. I think bad posture on my part as well. Like I should not be hunched over as much as I am well we're covering all the bases yeah you got the

hunch i got the legs yeah we need like a um an ergonomic specialist you know come into companies and like tell their employees how to sit uh like like a jordan belfort type of a posture yeah oh interesting that'd be cool gordon gecko just like yelling wait this is actually is this going to be my thing i mean okay in fairness you now are the guy who gets all the comments about sitting but in the first video that we did coming back i was also sitting in fun ways okay hey hey it's not i want it too i'm like i'm being i'm in trouble for being a sweetie now. That's fair, I guess. Okay. For being myself. Happy birthday, Jordan.

Oh, shit, yeah. Thank you so much, dude. Happy birthday to you as well. Thank you. Just two young men. Two young men. Young, vibrant. Who are finally allowed to drive.

Whimsical enough to bring their legs onto the couch. Actually, you're still not allowed to drive. Nope, not at all. On account of no license. Yeah. And you're so young. Oh drive nope not at all um on account of no license yeah uh and you're so young oh sorry that's it yeah i can't rent a car or whatever so speaking of renting a car we for our joint birthday yes our birthday is the same day it's not a bit i got lots of dms asking if we were serious yeah nice try you know yeah it's two years apart if that helps

it wasn't like the same day same year we are two years apart but it was the same day may 5th that's our birthday um and it i think is an important part of uh when we met and we're like oh we have too many similarities and then we found out we had the same birthday we both sat in the old patreon office doing like a soy jack face yeah i remember there's this photo of you in a blue shirt playing a guitar with legs crossed and i sent it to anastasia and i was like he likes uh hollywood handbook and then you were like anastasia from hollywood handbook yeah dude yeah i don't miss anastasia's here right now off camera but you can't see her it's fun it is like a bizarre i wish we could

find like a transcript of that conversation because it's fun it is like a bizarre i wish we could find like a transcript of that conversation because it is a lot of like i don't think sad boys would exist without us discovering just a bunch of sudden like whoa what yeah come on huh for real because we would we later became co-workers but we weren't you know we didn't work in the same team even the same side of the org even the same portion of the office. No, I feel like I've probably told this on the podcast before, but you were proposed to me as a person who existed. You were pitched to me as British Jarvis by our friend Jamie. And she was like, you got to come work at patreon we have british jarvis and i was like oh why would i want there to be a british version of me do i replace

him yeah and i also like that sounds racist it's fine oh dude we can't talk about it really but there is a person in our lives now kind of a friend of a friend yeah that mixes us up yeah and that happens more often than you'd think in our lives people used to mix us up at patreon and i think it's gonna be like happy birthday yeah no way no way you're right it's a stop clock is right twice a day um but it's it was our birthday this past friday and uh yes and we cinco de mayo cinco de mayo as a little bit of a surprise we went to canada we went to toronto um under a secret plan to surprise our good friend curtis connor for his birthday being may 5th may the 4th sorry may the 4th be with you.

Well, yeah, Curtis is one day before me, to be fair. As far as weird birthday time. Same year. Yeah. And we look the same. And you look the same. Have I ever told you how I posted photos of my new haircut and people were like, you look like Curtis Connor. And I was like, what are you talking about? Did you have a mustache?

In a mullet? No, I didn't. Huh. It was weird. And I got it multiple times. It is different. I got it multiple times to the point where I sent it to Curtis. And I was like, what is going on? What's going on?

What's going on? I was hired for doing some bullshit. California. Media is in the trash can. And I'll tell you, it's not good i've lived it um i'm sensitive uh i was fired for being myself shout outs the news is fake and so am i um i got those uh implants to give me biceps i'm a big strong boy he should pivot into being a small bean.

That should be the new Tucker Carlson era. I'm a small bean. I'm just a little cutie. And this is why what the left is afraid of. I'm the smallest bean. They're jealous. And they're jealous. Of me being a cutie sweetie pie. They're infringing on Americans' rights to be small beans. To do a toy haul or do

an unboxing of a bunch of small toys. Is that what small bean people do? I don't know. I don't know. Anyway, we surprised Curtis. It was very cute. Also, Danny surprised Curtis. So it was like this two-pronged thing where Danny of Danny Gonzalez arrived in Toronto secretly because we were coordinating with Jenna. So there was like a big group chat between Jordan, myself, Jenna, and Danny. And so Danny was arriving early in the day. And then he surprised Curtis. And then I saw the video. Like Jenna sent me the video.

And he's like whoa dude yeah danny's like sitting at their dining table kind of doing a danny gonzalez face and curtis hits him with the most expressive curtis guest yeah jenna was like curtis doesn't he doesn't show much emotion and then shows the video and she's like but he was so happy and surprised and the video is like whoa man he's so and like his wording is very emotional oh yeah wow i love you this is amazing wow but just whoa no yeah it feels like it's a bit but it's very earnest he yeah he's just whoa what's what the fuck man what the fuck because that's what happened so so danny surprised him and then

even audio listeners can picture the curtis like has a physical motion when he hits you with the work whoa it's like the servos in his back yeah yeah um he danny surprised him it was very cute and then that evening we arrived from the airport and showed up and I knocked real hard on the door like I was a bad guy like I was Billie Eilish's bad guy from the song so it's based on you yeah it's based on me

knocking on Chris's door yeah I'm a little prankster and a bad man I'm a bad man duh and yeah it was he was like what the fuck what's going on he like looked back at jenna and jenna was like filming him jump yeah it was a great time and then uh curtis and jenna were just like the the nicest hosts unreasonably great host jenna cooked incredible dinners twice.

Curtis made us espresso. Curtis made us espresso. We learned that there is a Canadian version of DiGiorno called like Delizio or something like that. Dizon, it's not. It's not delivery. It's Delizio. It's not takeout going to your house. It's Dislo.

Dislocate. Yeah. I had no idea that there was... There's no whistling sound. We have a big open door and like the birds, the birds are singing. The birds are squealing actually. As serene as it is, you know.

Can we look up while we're here? The DiGiorno versus deliso or whatever yeah delicio what we did check it is the same it's the same company it's literally one of those like hardy's versus carl jr checkers versus rallies what's another one uh tk max versus tj max tk max uk one yeah that's insane. To what reason? Not sure which is the first one. Don't see any rationale for it. I thought TK Max was a person.

I feel like this is my Shane Dawson moment where I'm like, I thought Trader Joe made the food. What market research could have resulted in? Yeah, Americans like the letter J actually a hell of a lot more than K. Yeah, our surveys suggested that we should shift to the next letter in the alphabet. No longer letter number 10, J.

We have to move on to K. It is like, yeah, I mean, it's literally like, this just doesn't hit right. It stands for the kingdom, that's why. Oh, kingdom max. Shout out to the king, dude. Thanks, dude. Thank you so much. No, the Burger King.

Oh, right, yeah. Which, did you know, in Japan, no just kidding it's it's burger king everywhere but um it's hungry jacks in australia it's hungry jacks in australia anastasia just told us what tk maxK Maxx's Hungry Jacks. That's why it rags. I went over to Hungry Jacks and grabbed a Element skateboard t-shirt. Yeah, for too much money or not enough? Yeah, it was marked down from $100 to $12. Did I just hit a hot topic the other day? I was trying to find as silly a Stewie Griffin t-shirt as possible.

Right. Little pricey. Oh yeah. Little pricier than I thought Hot Topic would be for, you know, like a demon slayer sweatpants. Yeah. I mean, when you're buying high fashion,

you've got to pay high fashion prices. Yeah. I guess I don't, I don't know the industry, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Stewie demands a premium.

Yeah. I should have gone for an american premium it was an american dad character or cleveland show i probably could have got a discount i promised loretta i would get intimate with her tonight i'm just doing all my family impressions my own show i've got a show and i'm voiced by a white guy is that okay probably not the problem with cleveland fortunately we found a black dude who sounds like this also so the show was canceled before we were um anyway um oh no he's stuck oh oh no i'm in pain kill me kill me before i get canceled we scared our good friend um oh speaking of brands that are different

kit kat behavior oh yeah what in the world so we ate a lot of kit kat bars in canada and i don't know why this happened i don't know if it's a canadian delicacy or what but our first kit kat was where do we eat the first kit kat uh we uh oh i got it from just like a corner store oh yeah so yeah jordan was just like at a corner store and he's like i got a kit kat you want it i wanted to go to timmy horton's but it was closed right and so then i ate the kit kat and it was very good it was special it felt like it was made with real i don't know elbow grease or whatever it felt like it was made by heart by uh k-cat himself yeah it was actually j-cat oh yeah yeah uh they taste like uk ones it used to be my favorite candy then moved back to

the us yeah what the fucking what's going on i don't know see i i'm not a i can't judge a kit cat in america because i've only known American Kit Kats so I like them but they do taste different. The ones in Canada definitely tasted better. This is like a European chocolate thing too. Not that Canada's in Europe but people talk about it. They want to be. It's like America's

stepson. Europe has thrown all its stuff in there. Canada wants to be European real bad. We literally got we rented a car, and I'm driving on the highway, and then Jordan points out that the highway signs or the highway numbers have little crowns. They're in the shape of little crowns.

Yeah, they're in the shape of little crowns. There's like five on it. I mentioned it to our chaperones, Jenner and Curtis, and they were like, oh, really? Yeah, they didn't notice. Wow, you're so indoctrinated yeah they didn't know yeah it's kind of like if you mentioned how many american flags are at the yeah or eagles are at any airport any customs in the u.s is like welcome home to good old-fashioned america dude like yeah like an animated flag background behind an eagle

you know what actually one of the first things i noticed after i moved here fucking whatever you know seven eight years ago or whatever the very first thing i noticed is that on like terrestrial tv where you actually get ads or um medical ads especially because i don't even think legally you're allowed to advertise branded medicine in the uk oh right i've heard that because it's insane to do that. Oh, oh, oh, Ozympic, you know. You know, they make bangers here. They make bangers for

miracle drugs. Ozympic should never be used by anyone in the whole world. Make your arms and legs fall off. Ask your doctor before trying Ozympic, as it will kill you for sure. I hope that they say no, because you should never have it. I think Ozympic is like the new Hollywood weight loss drug, drug where it's like it's used it's supposed to be for people with diabetes i think and um oh it has an actual medical has an actual medical thing but then people were like hold on this suppresses your no no no so there's like a black market and there's

also a shortage i don't know very much about this I was just hearing about it on the news. I'm curious. There is a, it's just kind of crazy how much parodies of the U.S. line up. Like the idea of an actual contemporary ad where it'd be like, in this country of freedom and modernity, you can buy medicine that makes you more powerful than you could ever possibly imagine. Have you ever wanted to be yourself? Or political ads? was you the the phrasing of that started like a political i thought it was gonna be like this was paid for by the big kick-ass corporation i mean that's definitely not a thing surely that's illegal in the uk because i've never seen a political ad before but the way political ads are phrased is like do people not see how funny this is is it not just jordan adika believes that babies should

like uh get punched every baby should be a gamer vote for the patriot who loves babies this was paid for by jarvis for babies the thing i said about the babies was a lighter actually yeah when you look at the context it's like live video of jarvis punching babies despite having a political ad that says the contrary jarvis is actually a victim of the thing that he rallies against and then everybody's like i don't believe it nice try nice try i i know jarvis he's like a guy i'd have a beer with he would never punch a baby i don't care that there's a video of it hey new yorkers stick together look i've seen chat gpt i know you can fake this stuff anything can be fake these days hey you've seen that uh you've seen the ex machina huh

imagine if that happened there was a robot yeah and a billionaire it's kind of like elon musk it's not real you said may as well you can imagine a world where it's that's the ultimate comeback from hey those guys now whenever they make the robot that you could have sex with i'm there i'm in but it's unethical but i'm in but i'm in get me in oh oh give me a computer i can kiss over here just like a reflex for them it's not delivery it It's Delizio. You have to say it with like a weird Italian accent like I'm doing it. Is it?

It's not delivery. It's not delivery. It's DiGiorno. It's not delivery. It's frozen pizza, right? That's what they say. Yeah, it's DiGiorno, which I thought was like the fanciest shit in the world when I was a kid. It's a great name. Very good.

It's a great name. It still hits. Nothing that wrong with it. I had some. It was great. Dis huh the autobot disautoban yo yes starscream that's a transformer no oh yeah dude oh man um oh and he's a decepticon sorry i'm revealing myself as a bad dude wait Wait, what did you say? Were you ever into Transformers? No. Any format?

Not really. I think I watched some of the cartoon. Never really the movies. I saw like maybe one of the Shia LaBeouf movies. I thought it was cool. Oh, wow. Yeah, I completely forgot about that portion. You should watch the Mark Wahlberg ones because the first...

Did he take over for Shia LaBeouf? Yeah, in the fourth and fifth movie i think jesus there's so many the fifth the fifth he is a knight and he has a sword uh but maybe that's the fourth one who knows who cares but he is to have written a character that's so unlikable because even if you have an annoying protagonist if they're capable at least they can be a little bit like compelling. Right. He's bad at everything that he does. Uh-huh.

He's really mean. Oh. He's really like unpleasant to his employees and people in his life. And the only B-plot that he's involved in is his daughter's boyfriend. She is 17 years old and his daughter's boyfriend who is over 18 is literally in a scene presents mark walberg with documentation proving that they're allowed to have sex according to like some weird archaic state-specific law called like the romeo and juliet law i feel like i saw a clip on twitter of this it has nothing to do with the movie that's so weird it just feels like a michael bay being like by the way just in case anybody it's actually cool yeah

it's like jerry seinfeld dating that like going to prom with that 18 year old or 17 or whatever she's her brain's older yeah she's beautiful what am i does that hear jerry's you know how he opens snl hey musical musical guest kramer dj max oh dude does sound like an snl like writer mommy morning oh yeah delicio i like delicio more mr beast yeah it's the cursed like um justin roiland the good doctor the bad doctor house i'm so excited that good doctor's in the in the zeitgeist right now um yeah what the hell is going on with that uh people who don't know the good doctor is a very funny unintentionally very funny show created by the creator of one of my favorite shows house which really sticks really doesn't feel good kind of crazy that yeah because they have different vibes from the clips i've seen

on twitter uh so here's the thing you actually have to be pretty uh you have to be a rick and morty type smart guy fan oh that makes sense i've been keeping up with the rick and morty news has anything happened uh no i think it's it's it's keep on keeping on and it's stronger than ever. Justice. Right? There is, I genuinely didn't know this until we were watching the pilot for the second or third time in the last 48 hours last night. What? Me and Ethan, we just can't stop laughing.

It's on Hulu. Shout outs. Shout outs Hulu. There is, it's based on a K-drama. The Good Doctor is. A like 20 episode k-drama the good doctor is a like 20 episode k-drama oh and the the premise being that it's a an autistic savant that becomes a surgeon and he i don't know i don't know how to say this the first episode is an a plot about him helping a kid that gets injured at the airport and it feels like a different show that is going on.

The team shooting that literally, it looks different, feels different. It is cut and spliced like within the episode. So it feels like it's going on for a way too long. Like it's crazy how long he's helping a child slowly. Cause he keeps cutting back to scenes where the board of directors is meeting with his like paternal figure who trained him and got him into medical school or whatever.

Toby from the West wing. And it's just scene after scene of them making some pretty yikes claims about like what autism is, how it works or whatever. And, you know, doing the kind of classic trope of, yeah,

he has the mind of a child, but he's got powers, you know, like that classic. Isn't there a different show about like child but he's got powers you know like that oh god classic isn't there a different show about like an attorney who's got ocd or something like that attorney oh wait yeah there's a new one coming out like isn't it by the same by david shaw yet again why does he keep doing that the good no way lawyer oh my god also played by freddie heimel that would be so funny um so we've actually got some clips,

some of the clips that have been going viral on Twitter of the good doctor. For those who are not familiar, I do want to now teach you. It's played by Freddie Highmore who was in, I want to say the spider wick chronicles. He's a British actor. Oh, this guy is?

Yeah. He was a child. He was like a very successful. So they did the house thing where they're like, let's get a British actor and make him American. Worked the first time. Worked the first time. I would be curious.

I'm sure there's a discourse about it online right now, but I would be curious to know what different autistic people's experience of this show has been. Right. Because pretty unanimously I've seen that it's insulting. Yeah. Because he's kid coded that's like how right right well i mean like there's a quite a few clips that i love

um oh we i should say oh by the way i don't know if we'll how late in the show we'll get but we watched episode one where's the pilot me and ethan uh the last couple of days we watched a couple times and then we jumped all the way to the latest episode the show's over and it's been off the air for a while right uh no last one came out last week oh fuck i think it's still okay this is big for them it's very popular it's like an extremely popular show yeah it's i was saying the anastasia earlier it's like um it's kind of like young sheldon where you don't know like a real human being that watches it but it's inexplicably the most popular show in the world. Young Rock.

I didn't even think that would come out. That's real? That's out and has been for a while. That's crazy, dude. Or just one of those like crime shows called like CSI Night Midnight in a car. We only look at midnight crimes. I want to look at the, and also the car talks. It's Knight Rider, kind of.

There's a really funny one that like, so Daniel Dae Kim is Dr. Han, and apparently he just plays this role for a few episodes. Daniel Dae Kim is one of my favorite characters on the TV show Lost. Oh, that's right. And so one of the things that went viral is this clip from Lost. The Good Doctor series finale is insane. The surgeon plants a bomb on Dr. Han's boat and then it explodes, fucking killing him. What a fitting conclusion to this epic rivalry.

Lost spoilers, by the way. Oh yeah! I have to get stopped! Also, fun fact about Lost. So, Daniel DeChambe's character, Jin is his name. Son of Jin, I think.

Yeah. He's a surgeon. His character only speaks Korean the entire time. And he actually didn't know Korean. And so Yoon Jin Kim, his co-star, helped him with his lines. Because they were this couple that was this Korean couple that didn't really speak English. Same thing happened in Heroes. Do you know that did it yeah uh hero nakamura's co-star ando is actually a korean actor that had to learn japanese to play his role oh yeah that's right i know heroes i did watch all the show it's very bad the thing i was going to say about

that was that in the comments of that lost one they were like the good doctor swam all the way to his boat to plant the bomb. And the top reply was, I am a sturgeon, which I thought was awesome. Is this the clip? I think that's the clip. I am a sturgeon. Oh, God damn it. It's crazy because this is like. It's the original Korean one.

It's like two years. Like... It's the original Korean one. It's like two years, like, this is a two-year-old clip, so this has been a thing for so long. This is, to some people, an extremely important show. People love this show. It's like one of the most popular shows on ABC. We can build to you having more responsibility. No. No.

I'm a surgeon. So I'm going to give you one last chance to maintain your dignity and leave my office. I am a surgeon. I am a surgeon. I am, I am a surgeon. It's like incredible that the clips weren't without context. Like we watched the full context of that scene and it's as wild as the actual TikTok is. It's capital A acting. It's like Meryl Streep peak intensity screaming or whatever. I know that there's, I'm sure there's some people that connect connect with like say some of his like vocal tics and some of his some parts of the presentation of his performance i'm it takes all kinds right like it's not going to be no one but it's worth noting that i think his performance is a little fetishized if you check the imdb it has a kind

of a weird number of awards from mostly things like Critics' Choice. It's not necessarily like the Globes, but it's real, real awards. Okay. And he, having watched the, I watched like most of the first season when it was first coming out because I liked House. I'm like, maybe if I keep giving it a try. Oh, it's being bad still. What do you know? Yeah.

The latest episode, jumping to that. I don't know when in the canon, at least a couple of years, I guess, ago, it's almost sad what they're allowing him to now get away with. In the latest episode, he is having a kid. That's like what's happening. Okay.

His partner is in the hospital and her water's breaking and so on and so. She is infantilizing him as well. Oh. It's so, I imagine it's so frustrating for some people to watch this show because it is like the worst most patronizing interpretation of how autism works yeah plus freddie heimer is getting away with crime bro he's just every single line has so much like affect on it yeah it's not it's always monotone it's always you know etc but then he's also i don't know describe it uh you're wrong to be doing that with the patient that's

every line yeah and it's this everyone that talks to him is either a bully who no shit his boss at the end of the first episode who was otherwise really nice to him they're doing surgery sean just saved a child and it's almost like the show goes oh we're out of conflict um hey you during a surgery the main surgeon turned to him while you're cutting someone open and just go by the way you'll i'll never let you be a real surgeon in this hospital it's wild what it's one of the worst shows I've ever seen. That's great. I mean, the thing is like, we have to like,

obviously like the reason that you can make fun of this is because it's like this extremely successful show that has this portrayal that, you know, people with autism have critiqued and criticized. Yeah, it's capitalizing on a very poor representation of. Yeah. Yeah. And so like,

obviously we're not experts there, but, uh, based on other sources. Yeah, exactly. But this is the, this clip made me laugh a lot.

Um, because if it, why does the good doctor walk like C3PO? And then you just look at how he moves. How far apart are the contractions? About two minutes. Okay. It is time to start pushing.

Actually wild. He moves like a really impressive marionette. Like it's very, the puppetry is really impressive. I have autistic friends their arms move independently of one another yeah and i mean like i can't not that my friends are representative of the entire spectrum obviously but like it's just so i don't know it just feels yeah it's it's so like um turnt up what What's the word? Like you said it already. Or like affected.

Yeah. It seems a lot like, because the reporting on it has just been like, there doesn't appear to have been any research on the side of the performance. Just like a lot of interpretation. And the part that really does like unironically piss me off is the way every other character interacts with them.

You are either mean and insane. Like the things they're saying are like, oh, you would go to jail for harassing an employee like this. Or they are just, oh, wait, I should say, there's also extras, you know, whenever there's a, oh, I'm Jimmy McGlimmy, this is my one extra credit, whatever. And they are the patient in an episode. Yeah.

And he'll walk in and just be like, we need to do a blood transfusion. And we go, what in the, what the heck? This is my doctor? I can't believe it. Yeah. And then the third type of character is his friends that are just like, okay. Okay, little buddy. Hey, don't get too emotional now.

You know, I just want like, is it too much to like, there have to be actors with autism who, yeah. You know what I mean? Like, it just feels like one of those things where I'm like, you're never gonna like it. Maybe this isn't a way to flex in your ability to act. Maybe exactly you know what i mean like one of very few scenarios where a studio might actually cast somebody with right and they didn't uh by all accounts i've not heard anything about that yeah but there is also like uh i don't know if this is a direct one-to-one but it's a criticism that i heard about some shows before i and i'd never really thought about it a couple years ago at this point but it's weird how many movies and shows still to represent a trans

character will star a cis character that then changes their gender coding they're like we put jeffrey rush or tambo that's the one in uh transparent we put we gave him a dress to wear, and that's his transition. The Dallas Buyers Club winning all those awards. Yes, exactly. Jared Leto doing that. That was wild. And it being Eddie Redmayne. Oh, Eddie Redmayne.

The Dutch girl or something like that, it's called. Yeah, yeah. And it's impressive because they're like, imagine a guy playing a damn girl. Yeah, this is crazy. He acted so good. And I'm like, okay,

well, but couldn't the acting be about the actual like emotional performance and not like that? Like, it just feels like, yeah, I don't know if that was necessary. It'd be like if Robert Downey Jr's portrayal in Tropic Thunder wasn't a

joke. It's just like, yeah, we need a guy that can really act black. Yeah, right. You get Bruno in on this. Um, I don't, what was You get Bruno in on this. Um,

I don't, what was that line? I don't, uh, is it from the song? Yeah. Uh, I don't do a bird at the,

there's a specific line that always gets, um, it's the one that echoes. I'll call them hose and sluts. That's what I, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Um, so I haven't seen the finale huh one day one day we gotta watch that big dog big brother that's me uh an elder elder millennial they call me the elder ring uh how you doing what's up how's your

week i'm tired and um we go back from canada four days ago Yeah, we got back from Canada and then I had to get back to moving. Yeah, that's right. We did like so like we had creator clash. We did that and then I got home and then I immediately had to move. And then when I moved, then we I had like a day or two in the new place. And then we went to Canada and then we just got back. And then I had a little bit of, a little bit of jet lag, a tiny little bit of tiredness. Um, I ran out of my vitamin D and I

haven't been taking that for like a few weeks. So I hope it didn't fuck up my levels because I need to go get blood testing again because, uh, I'm tired all all the time and so i have to figure out why but all that being said i'm good you know like things are good things are things aren't too bad um that's a lot of stress um floating around a lot of very good things yeah Yeah. There's just so much happening right now. Like I hate it in a way. It's like, you know, a good problem, I suppose. But there's, I don't like being like, oh, sorry, I can't hang out because I've got like all of these things I need to do or I can't be fun or do fun things because I need to deal with my responsibilities because it's all temporary

and it's all short term and these a lot of these things are one-time things like getting the new place set up but um but it you know takes a toll I don't think I could be I I would be able to do any of what I'm doing now without like our our team that like helps us with everything so shout outs to the team it's nice that the things are going well too true it would be very frustrating to be putting all the hours in and the result be yeah be net negative but i was riding high from the birthday trip that was super fun yeah it's crazy how much i feel like i say this or one of us says it every week but you notice how you when you spend time with people and do nice things it like lifts your mood yeah

it's like such a it's yeah no shit right yeah i was my those pyramids of need has like yeah people in it not to put you on blast but like you had expressed to me a little bit that you were like not in the best space headspace and it was it made me really happy while we were on the trip after we like did a hang that you were like you know it's nice to do this and i was like yes i'm really glad like i'm glad that this trip could be that because i needed it too and it like really put me in a good put me in a good mood just to be around nice people and have a good time with our friends and the trip was your birthday present to me as well so that felt like a i don't know i thank you so much it did really help me um, you know, came back and all the same things are there.

I got a really scary Visa email yesterday. I feel like I'm in a dream. Like ever since I got it, I'm just like, it's like I'm floating above my body. All I need is an email that says, oh, this is plenty. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just something. Because the last time i got an ambiguous this could be a problem email i got deported for three years yeah and this is exactly the same

right and to get that email like right after buying some plants it just uh the worst thing about it makes makes me feel like an idiot makes me feel like an idiot for like trying to establish myself i feel like lawyers don't have good bedside manner yeah you know what i yeah it's just like because they're i feel like so careful about the letter of the law that like i mean in some of the meetings that we've been on i've i've kind of been like not to give specifics but i've been like so you're essentially saying this and we're fine and they're like um potentially hypothetically that were the you know and it's like okay you don't i'm not the judge you know you can like you can kind of tell it to me like it is it's like when you're on a flight and there's some like extreme turbulence or something and you can ask

a flight attendant is this like normal ish or whatever right and they're running around panickedly i'm like i shouldn't have to ask this can you get on the comms and say yeah we've had this before and not died right that's because i'm not a pilot that i don't know the rules that happened to me with like some stuff about like whether or not i was going to get the place or not where some shit happened and i was fortunately i was like talking to some of like my my my people and they were like, Oh no, this happens. This happens a lot. Yeah.

It's all good. And so my anxiety about it was able to be like, Oh, okay, well it's a normal, a normal possibility. Do you get that experience with therapy? Having kind of an authority figure that has been tracking your experience. I get it with my psychiatrist specifically where i'll come in say something that's maybe clearly me spiraling about a particular topic or getting caught up in something that's like trauma based but not necessarily grounded or real

yeah or is a symptom of my medication as well that that's always helpful because i again i'm not a doctor but i think being a therapist psychiatrist my psychiatrist able to be like really candid and just say no that's like not real yeah the thing you're having is you actually have two higher doses my therapist does do that from time to time i am thinking recently though that i might need to change therapists because i like my therapist but i don't know that i'm like getting much out of therapy right now they're not a patron yeah nor do i think they listen so fingers crossed they shouldn't be listening but even if they were i would have this conversation with their face it'd be nice if they signed up at patreon.com sad boys at the five dollar level to get an

entire extra episode i was like they don't understand they get an entire episode every week a stupid asshole. Like they listen to this podcast all the time. And then there's double that. Huh? We're going on 10. And yet? Right now, 10 bonus episodes.

10 hours. 10 hours. Of Sad Boys content with various guests. And frankly, it's way better. It's so much better. We get to let loose. We can say all the slurs oh you know the ones some of the new ones some of the new we got new technology a blip oh what could

that mean hold on bleep it sorry apologies yeah yeah apologies to the blops dude brother please blipple please yeah you might change um yeah it's just like i'm sure other people have this experience where like finding a therapist is like dating where you have to like talk to people and like kind of tell your whole life story i one of my least favorite things is like meeting with a new therapist and being like okay so i've done a lot of work on myself and i'm just going to give you the oral history of my life and uh you're going to have to catch up and i don't like that because you starting from zero like the main benefit i get out of therapy now is the longitudinal value of having someone go oh four years ago you had this

problem yeah tracking is the helpful part yeah that's actually huge i've only had two psychiatrists and one was literally for like three months before i moved from san francisco to la and then it's just been the one i have right now the whole time yeah but i did have uh some remote therapy deep during covid because my psychiatrist very expensive yeah but i didn't have the money to fuck around with that and it is it was dog shit like it was not only were they unable to kind of connect the dots or get engaged and they were just giving me platitudes when we wrapped up the first session they sent me an email suggesting that i read jordan peterson's 12 rules for life dude i've been hearing more like from friends about shitty

therapists and if you have a bad therapist like you have my permission to change because i was talking to a different friend whose therapist was like like they were talking about how they have trauma around let's say it was like around like bodies of water okay or something like like this is not their real problem, but I'm trying to give an example. So it was like, I have trauma around large bodies of water. And they were like, oh, well, I've got some good beach recommendations that are good. And it's like, no, let's talk about the trauma that I have. And it's like, weirdly, like there weren't like keyed in to like what the actual issue was. And they were like staying very surface level. Do you like Dasani more? No, it was like, and it was like they felt like their therapist

was not even paying attention to them. Yeah. And, or listening to them. And to the credit of my therapist, I think they're good at listening to me, but I don't feel like they challenge me. And I think I may need to seek out a different style of therapy.

Because I think that my therapist is like CBT, you know, pilled. And there's a lot of other schools of thought out there. One of our friends is, or one of my friends actually, because you guys haven't met, but is like doing their PhD in psychology. And she was talking to me about some different therapies that might be beneficial. And I think I'm just like open to, you know, I got into therapy because I wanted to like, like feel better and like improve my dialogue with myself. And I feel like I've stagnated on that. And I've

started to dread going to therapy because it feels like I'm just telling stories and changing lives, but it feels like I'm just goofing destroying guilds yeah destroying guilds also yeah you know wga strong by the way like yeah uh i it's unbelievable that we were like just talking about the like darman working conditions and they're like not non-union stuff and then there's like the writer strike that's happening now um and we're definitely in solidarity with the the writers they deserve more of a share of the work that they do. If you want to notice how embarrassing the studios are being, they're complaining about writer strikes being too prevalent.

The last one was in 2007. Yeah. But it shortened the season of Lost that was airing at that time. And it was actually 14 episodes instead of the planned 24, 22. Quantum of Solace was mid, actually. God. How is that fair on me heroes did not recover from the writer's strike okay okay well now we're now we're touching real shit yeah now it's getting real um yeah i mean if you need a better example jesus that was heroes was genuinely a great show people i think undervalue writers they seem to think of guilds as this privilege that

that queen of the crop would like access to yeah as opposed to just being a very basic right that makes life sustainable in the yeah and they said they're like the there is so much like value in the collective bargaining that these you know unions do to make it so that the people doing their job day in and day out are protected and have access to the right, you know, health care and amenities and pay, you know, to live on. And I think the complaints of the writers, you know, it's like I can't like I'm not the most like I'm not a part of the skill. So I can't really speak to like truly, you know, what all of their talking points are. But my understanding is like, you know what all of their talking points are but my understanding is like you know more uh uh residual pay they're not seeing the because that was basically stripped away with

streaming yeah so streaming is like a big part of like what's happening there and then there's like these concerns about ai and clamping down on like you know how much of these studios are you know writing scripts with ai and then having writers come in and like you know fix them very i think maybe one of the most reasonable obvious i mean all of them are reasonable all the all the requests slash demands the the one of the no-brainers to me is that the writers individually want to be able to opt out of having their work used to train ai oh huge which is like yeah man it's my script what are you talking about imagine like because it's very easy to imagine if that were done off of one person like for example

did you hear that ai drake song yes um i actually haven't heard it but i don't think we can play it because of uh dmca but one of his best um but i do kind of want to listen to it myself drake ai was it like featuring the weekend um the real one i know anthony fantano said it was kind of good which but he was also saying it's a problem like he was saying oh yeah it's a bad thing that it is decent is this the song is it called hard on my sleeve yeah god that's a really good jesus yeah this song is kind of a banger and that's a problem that test is too good yeah it's a problem it's too good because i'm also like okay this was probably not written by an ai but the issue is that we have a combination of factors we have like you know you can train

ais to write in the style you can now train ai voice models if you have a bunch of voice examples to sound like a person and who do we have a lot of voice examples of uh every popular musician you know what i mean so it's like um it's definitely something that like the regulation is going to need to speed up. And it's all, this has always been a problem because when a new technology like comes around, that's unregulated and there's a huge like sort of gold rush of profit. It takes forever for the actual government to like catch up and regulate because the people doing that regulation are old farts and they don't have their thumb on the pulse of society they don't listen to ai the weekend and that process for doing things is so slow and

it's so slow and it's built to not change the status quo and uh and that's how you get like big tech or whatever that's how you get like uber growing to be this gigantic company and sort of like stomping around uh government legislation because the worst that can happen is they get fined a few million dollars after making billions yeah that's what disruption is that's that term is so prolific because it's just doing something mostly legal yeah that isn't properly tracked while you can yeah doing something unregulated as fast as possible while the regulations you know it's like you're the weekend in a corvette driving and uh no you're you're in a ford f-150 on the

fucking on the out of california highway and the police are chasing you except for uh the weekend is the tech industry disrupting and the cops are the government sorry i don't know and they take a wrong turn i don't know this is like an ai generating an hour yeah that's i asked chat gbt to formulate that one for me by the way if your instinct as a listener or person just like aware of this happening is to say well it's like there's personal responsibility or like you should just have just learn to code stop holding back progress or whatever you're a libertarian psychopath like that is a way that that's some ayn rand psycho bullshit that is like it's for the same token then we shouldn't people shouldn't get in trouble for not wearing seatbelts yeah that is like yeah it's the same token then we shouldn't people shouldn't get in trouble for

not wearing seatbelts yeah that is like yeah it's not optimal to waste time putting on the seatbelt when i could be driving to work speed limits is not letting me get anywhere quick enough yeah it's just like no come on man you know that not everybody can be personally responsible for that you know that like it's a meritocracy man the writers should just get bigger higher paying jobs yeah they should just move into mr beast town should go in a big steel production yeah why don't you just make cars wait why don't we start a town call it detroit right make a big car factory they did this they did this like so long ago like it's okay it's my idea you're gonna be so embarrassed do it again detroit do detroit too come on cars extra um so the you love the mr beast stuff well so he's done a couple things new capital d discourse

with yeah he's cured a few more ailments oh that's right yeah yeah his new testament list of miracles is like growing yeah it's thumbnails it's demonic thumbnails bro i have it um people said that he's like making them so that people can put themselves in to react and i kind of think there's validity to that because there's all this space on the left side of the thumbnail yeah you're right you know what i mean well he's that's his like his his work and trade right is three key features in the thumbnail yeah and i guess that is missing one you it's missing you get in there no matter who you are start your reaction channel i get a lot of dms they're like hey how do i do commentary you just pop yourself on a mr beast

thumbnail and you hit record be wacky and then get like a talented editor to make it cogent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do lots of drone footage. Do it like Casey Neistat in 2015. It would be so funny to do a commentary channel, whole channel, but it's only via drone. And because of audio reasons, it has to be like 30 feet away. Commentary videos like a Mr. Beast video.

Like, what's up guys? Today we're're gonna talk about Shane Dawson's new video do you think that this one is the odd one out which one of them is black okay guys I think that Jared is black because wait I can see him hold on with my eyes with my eyes so I I mean I think that this Mr. Beast thing uh obviously the optics are like bad it like it's you know uh I know a lot of people are comparing it to company talents a lot of people are comparing it to feudalism um was there any i mean is there more nuance to the story other than he just bought some houses that were for sale

for his staff uh i don't think that they were all for sale i think he like tried to get the owners of the houses to sell them um And it says for staff and family. I don't know. And then we don't know if like he owns the houses or if he bought them on behalf. You know what I mean? Because there's a difference because like if it's going to be like a lords and vassals situation where, yeah. If you're dependent on having that job. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If you're dependent on having that job. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're dependent on having the job. So I think that there's just like not enough information to like really cast judgment other than to say like the optics look bad. And that's what Twitter cares about. Yeah, sure. So you can just like make the take. I mean like it definitely doesn't sound good. And I think that there's a lot of stuff about like that environment that I haven't heard the best things about. So, you know, I will certainly not in defense of Mr. Beast, but I think more just one of the phenomena that follows him around. And as I think the cause of a lot of these capital D discourses, there are a lot lot of keywords in that story that i think are

triggering for people there's jimmy his kind of classic brand of so-and-so well because you see a mr b's headline and you're like okay what's my hot take to farm engagement yeah and then landlord sure is another keyword you can put in there yeah company town a reference that maybe make people unsettled even as an idea buying a house something that's not accessible to like most people it's just like a very online lib behavior to kind of go off aesthetics like not really think about the why or the how of something but more just the kind of like the cosmetic elements of something bad. Yeah. Like, or like when, you know,

Joe Biden had big red lights behind him. Everyone was like, you're the rise of dark Brandon. Yeah, exactly. It's just a camera angle. There's blue to the right or whatever. I understand. I'd send the desire for some nice plug and play opinions, but I'm sure there's nuance beyond this. And I'll also say like,

I'm not by any means an expert on like the nuances of what purchasing large portions of land uh does to like the surrounding economy yeah exactly how that impacts that but i i'm hesitant to get too judgmental on something that like i feel my bias kicking in i feel my my socialist instincts kicking in a guy bought a bunch of houses to house his staff what is he the damn king and the i just don't know yeah exactly i don't know i also like i feel like he already owned a bunch of houses in this neighborhood and this story is about him buying a couple more and so i think that like it's partially old news,

which is why maybe I kind of wasn't surprised by it. But maybe that's why I just like don't have the, like I'm not able to judge it objectively. I wouldn't say that Twitter is judging it objectively. I think that like, I feel like the stuff on the internet, you always have to view it through the lens of like, it's hard to find a, someone who is posting with the earnest goal of sharing information yeah

you know what i mean it's like oftentimes you're posting for engagement i'm posting for engagement yeah and it's like not not to say that everyone's doing what i'm doing but you know dexerto needs to get clicks or whatever that's like why they run these stories where the actual body of the, it's like, it's a headline and then like a paragraph. You know what I mean? I mean, what's the use case where somebody is posting anything on Twitter without the intent to get attention on it?

Right. It would literally be someone who's like, I just need to let people know. It would be pointless. Yeah. Especially like you want to let people know, but you don't want to have a lot of people see it. There's just no and this is not even yeah again like a judgment even if i post something non-shit posty i do want it to get attention i mean if you're like hey there's like

a sale on switches at my local bus by like you're i mean maybe that's for cloud but you could also want to like do a service i don't know i think that certainly someone could not have nefarious intentions when it comes to posting online and i certainly someone could not have nefarious intentions when it comes to posting online. And I don't think I have nefarious intentions when posting online, but I have to acknowledge that, especially for like a news outlet who's paying the $1,000 a month

to get a gold check mark, they, you know, have to get, their game is engagement. Sure. Plus, yeah, I mean, hey. Because otherwise there's no point to this. It's a story worth selling. I don't think it's keeping Jimmy up at this it's a story worth selling i don't think it's keeping jimmy up at night or anything like that and i don't think it's beyond criticism because it is again it's demonic it's it's icky it's that's that's like

his curse really doesn't the stuff he does but i feel like the extent of it is well this certainly doesn't sound good yeah print let's let's put it on ice from there because i also i don't you know it's not necessarily a bad idea to keep an eye on yeah who owns these houses and what what obligation do they have to be good peasants for jimmy otherwise they lose their house is it their house is there a payment plan how does this work yeah but keeping an eye out doesn't also mean like preemptively just telling it saying it's bad yeah plus hey man again not an expert in anything to do i just don't know yeah i'm not an expert either i don't know the dominoes i think it's like i would certainly need more information and it feels like this this headline is for the sake of clicks because when you actually click into it you get like a

bunch of question marks and in a few pull quotes from people who lived in the neighborhood who talk about like well he had to make it worth my while or whatever and it's like okay so there's not really much here and that's the other question mark i guess is like yeah what was the method is it one of those uh the the big wig in town wants to destroy the rec center so he can build a parking lot right was it like he gave us an incredibly good offer? Yeah. I mean, and obviously like we could debate the merits of like, yeah, Mr. Beast owning a neighborhood. But we don't even know, like truly like don't even know if he owns the neighborhood or if he gifted the houses because he's also gifted houses a lot. And you could, you know, I would not be surprised if it was in the business interest of mr beast to like buy a house on behalf of some of his like higher ups you know it's like we've heard stories about

people who climb the ranks of like mr beast org and like he wants to have more access to you and so like he'll give you more you know stuff as a result like showering you in gifts no part of me thinks that there's like a deep and a fairer purpose to doing it in the first place it's literally just to like well i work with all these people yeah he's like efficiency pills just put them in a place together in the same way that you know uh yeah i made a thumbnail where there's a little boy crying yeah just knowing that like not understanding why that's creepy it was interesting to see that thumbnail change a bunch to like different boys crying who's your favorite kind of boy yeah it was interesting to see that thumbnail change a bunch to like different boys crying

who's your favorite kind of boy yeah it was like well this one's a person of color he's a little boy of color and he's crying do you guys like that yeah i think yeah he changed his thumbnail like three or four times i'm gonna get in some shoes i'll do whatever you want slightly um was that one on his philanthropy channel there was one on his philanthropy channel about prosthetics i think oh that's what that one was on okay um yeah but not the the hearing hearing blindness one i think that was on the curing blindness is on main interesting and then i think cure the hearing um aid one was on main he's made with such an iconic smile that is more like a grimace he looks like the grimace emoji his iconic thumbnail grimace yeah he's like yeah it's almost like he's going like i don't know is this okay what did uh oh you sent me a clip oh yeah dude do you want to set this up yeah so there's nothing to do with this

like there's no interesting insights to happen the two most annoying people on the internet are in media in general elon musk and bill maher bill maher yeah which actually genuinely sounds like if somebody wanted to give me like guantanamo white torture just play bill maher and i will lose my sense of self and i'll just like give up all of my homies or whatever annoys me he is a truly despicable person and uh that clip where he drops the n-word is is kind of amazing to watch still not that long ago i don't even yeah i didn't even know that was a i think maybe i have seen that though it's rough it's a what a little treat but treat yourself after the show this is a very recent as well like two days two weeks before listening to our patreon exclusive episode in check maybe we listen to it there maybe we don't want won't tell you no we've got a good story to talk

about on that one we'll tell you about it in a sec this clip is elon musk who and you know it's so much deference from soy bill maud you know just being like you're actually epic bacon swag i i think you're actually pretty goaded with the sauce, you know, just buttering him up. Elon Musk jumps in with one of just the worst jokes I've ever heard, and they have to applaud. Okay, here we go. These people who deal the cards.

I deal some memes too. Yes, you do. Some, uh... cards and i feel some memes too wait the moment the clap light comes on wait wait yeah so he says you're one of the few people that deals the cards so he's saying he's like a king maker elon musk he's like one of these like guys who who's got a lot of power and then then he says, I deal some memes too. What? Wait, was he opening his jacket to be like, I've got some memes in here. Oh, is that the bit?

I think that's his bit. Some, yeah, he's doing it. No, I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't show you any of my memes. No, I can't show you any of my like highly super compressed facebook meme of a blue head that i stole from the top reply to my previous tweet yeah on nine gag dude he is cracking up the pop again you can hear exactly when the neon clap sign goes yeah they're just like oh um okay. So about your memes. So I'm sure. How do they help you combat the woke mind virus?

Yeah. Thanks for finding back with like a picture of Squidward and he's playing his clarinet and saying that, you know, feminism. Isn't Bill Maher the guy who's like, I mean, look, I've been liberal for my whole life, but the pronouns these days are just so bad. He's dad lib. That's like his whole code. Yeah.

He's a Obama skeptama skeptic but still votes for him that kind of okay no anyone voted for a third show me the birth certificate but we deserve to see it so we're about at time for this episode because we've got to go to right here and record a full and complete bonus extra special episode patreon style homies only homies only on patreon.com slash sad boys it's a little show we call sad boys nights we have a salacious story to tell okay so on today's patreon episode we so we were in toronto with our good friends curtis connor danny gonzalez we're in the six we were in the six with our woes and rolling through it, in fact. And we took a limo, you know, like a birthday limo.

We took like a birthday limo to karaoke, got back to Curtis's place at like 1 a.m., 2 a.m. in the morning and find out that we need to pay in cash for this limousine and uh it's 2 a.m in the morning and uh we don't have any cash we go on a little adventure and we go on a little adventure and we'll tell you about that adventure curtis says some wild stuff danny gonzalez is there too um well you'll find out the conclude thrilling conclusion of that story on patreon.com sad boys bang um but we had every episode of sad boys with a particular phrase we love you and we're sorry boom oh so we got bullied by a limo driver pam poor pam curtis is like i would like to pay now. She was like, yeah, that'll be some amount of Canadian dollars.

Cash. And the world said there's no way for us to acquire cash at 2 a.m. It felt like a prank. In the local area, all the ATMs are closed. We say, follow me. Outro Music