Sad Boyz - TikTok Conspiracies Have Ruined Us

Episode Date: September 1, 2023

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Sweet bastard. I was thinking the other day what I want you to do when i am inevitably killed well like how we want to maintain the podcast after i am just run over by a semi-truck well we have uh hours and hours and hours of you speaking so we can generate an ai voice clone honestly give it a swing we do it like old days where you are zooming in but like you have a bad connection so you're like going at like a really that's a great idea like bad frame rate and then we're using a voice clone and then putting a filter over it and sometimes i have a mustache and so it's like we can't in an afro and jordan we're

like jordan's always got bad service and we can't really make out what he's saying but it seems like he's alive the one thing that we can gather from this is that he's still around so when they talk to lassie it was like there's a dog there's a boy down the well oh okay yeah it's just me going like it doesn't mean it's like so so true dude it's so honestly um honestly spitting and then cut back to the guest it's one of like rogan's fucking cronies like duncan trussell or something yeah but like it like glitches out like a VTuber, and you see another person. My eye tracking's all wrong, and I'm doing this. When a VTuber's technology glitches out, and all of the VTuber fans are faced to reconcile

with the fact that their favorite character is just a man in an office. They get stuck in this pose for a while. They're all twisting around. Yeah, and then it blinks out and it's just like a dude. It's like a Dorito halfway in his mouth. And he's like, no. How did he do that? A full green screen morph suit for no reason.

Yeah, just for himself. I kind of want to do that. VTubing? Yeah. I think it'd be fun. I think I love what we do i think it's very um comforting to have sort of our creative outlets just to be the you being who you are in different settings thing you know we do a podcast for us we videos i'm hashtag i'm him kind of thing i there's a little part of me that really

wants to find a an avenue that's just for like weird high concept shit yeah that doesn't have to account for my personal branding or or going on my channels or like accounting for an audience that might not be interested in it so to just do like one of those things is streaming like we have a lot of streamer friends yeah and so often like just be like I'm with Doug and we're eating fast food as much fast food as we can eat right before the cops stop us or we die and you're like wow what yeah how come that's what you're doing i've i've felt that uh recently because i've been like why can't i just be a pokemon go youtuber right now i you're not happy with doing anything else no no I just it's what I need

but we'll talk about that in a bit um well how are you how are you doing dude I'm alright I'm getting I think I'm getting spider bites what I think there's a damn spider biting me in my room I don't have any powers

it just made me cute you know how um you know how there was that uh saying or that um urban legend about how you eat spiders in your sleep yeah yeah and then someone looked into it uh and it's it has no source like um there's like a snopes article that um that that says that there's this like norwegian article by this woman um that talks about it and it kind of spun out from there and a bunch of people were like citing it without like looking into it but then that woman's name is an anagram for this is a huge troll that's so sick yeah i missed lying yeah i missed the past where you could just like say i've probably talked about it on the show before if not it's crazy i

legitimately for like till i was like seven or eight years old thought elijah wood was telekinetic i think a kid in my class said something related to it. And then I was, you know, a wise and skeptic, of course. And I was like, are you sure? I do believe in them, of course. But then, like, we played the Return of the King GameCube game. Shout out. Go check out these movies, guys. You've got to see these things.

Crazy. Hobbits, even better. But there is a little moment in the behind the scenes of that game where they're just you know they're on set and they're saying just obligatory press stuff real quick the devs basically run in and go like elijah vigo could you say the game is something about it and it's like i i can't i'm gonna if i end this game i kill myself yeah yeah i need the game to live i need to breathe the same as dialysis for me and they walk in and ask elijah wood about it and he's in his little like uh the background is the poster or whatever he's just like yeah um

sometimes i'll just find myself uh you know, picking up the controller and just going through the game. I remember that phrasing. It's so strange. Going through the game. And then like my child brain, my like six or seven year old child brain was like, ah, picking up with his mind. Of course. He just picks the game up with his brain. I love it as you like are growing up and beginning to challenge the powers that be.

You're like, all right, Santa, not real. Insane. Easter Bunny. Absurd challenge the powers that be you're like all right santa not real uh same easter bunny out absurd how could that be and then you're like elijah wood's powers is that more like the tooth fairy where it's real yeah right because the tooth fairy is real and so are elijah wood's powers but the easter bunny is fake and santa's fake of course and then you become elitist about it when any other kid still believes it. I bet you still believe in the Tooth Fairy. Wow. Because it's real. As you should if you heard the good news.

Wait, you don't believe in Elijah Wood's powers? Loser. I really was. Someone just told me it. I love that. And not to be, you know, like, to boomer about it it but we didn't have any avenue for looking that up at all i sometimes feel a little too skeptical and it's affected my personal relationships because uh i mean i've got a handle on it now but sometimes people like our good friends will tell me things and i'll go that's not real and i'll me too man i feel so mean and then in my head i go

no way and then i'll like look it up and i'll look it up and i'll go that's what i thought and then and then the way that i've changed as a person is i don't have to correct somebody but like i'll go yeah no it's fake but i'm not going to tell them. I need to free myself. They believe it too strongly. I need to look it up when we're not standing together so that you can't see my face creaking like disbelief. Yeah, I had a, I was dating someone once where they got mad at me for looking. Oh, yeah. Fuck, I understand.

Freaking, freaking. How do you do that? Yeah, I was dating i was doing could i do the same um uh i'll never tell my secrets i would love to find someone um no seriously man if you could find someone for me madame would you like a reddit call uh your our love would get an updo for me yeah i's like uh you in that dress that's an upvote right there have you seen the dress remember that remember the dress what color is it um no what color was it i can't remember a full tube of mace just going into my mouth never stops but um i was once dating someone and uh they got mad at me for googling whether or not dinosaurs can pee can right now yeah currently can they currently pee because uh uh it was like

we were like driving past like um we were on the highway going somewhere. And you know those big, sometimes when you're on the highway, there's tons of eye candy from the highway. It'll be like, come to this tourist stop. And it'll be like a big sign or a big drawing or in this case, a large dinosaur statue. Yes. Statue. I don't even know what it was made yeah uh be uh trojan horse yeah yeah it's usually like a hollow they have a lot in nevada

as well yeah it's like made a plaster or something probably it's usually from like the 60s yeah it's one eye is deteriorated they look cool as hell and And they were like, do dinosaurs pee? And I was like, I assume so. Do birds pee? Do reptiles in general? I know. It's like, what does pee even mean? But anyway, I Googled it.

And then that became a whole argument because I always have to know the answers to things. And I was like, but I just like learning. Well, they didn't have a position. Well, they didn't have a position. No, they didn't have a position. It was more about the fact that I always need to like learn. If there's a question, I like want to know the answer. And I think it was like, you know, when you're like, you start to like not like someone. And so like every little thing they do is annoying.

So it was like it blew up out of nothing because i um i like to i like to find out things it's such a funny thing that you didn't have to frame as they were like you always have to do this and i was like oh i'm sorry you have the foundation of humanity like curiosity that makes you write things down and learn yeah i mean i just like to know i like to when something is interesting to you you check it i hate i hate being wrong i get such a deep embarrassment from like um saying something incorrectly and so i from a very young age have always like strived to like i like try not to speak on something unless i'm really sure of it and and as a result i but i want to talk i want to say things i but i so i need to learn in order to be able to speak you know from a place of

authority um maybe that's understandable i think it's an adhd thing as well i i feel that like desire to be informed but also the rejection if i'm way off yeah exactly something changed i don't know when i was talking to my site yesterday actually and i was trying to describe like the while i was away like what changed in my isolation like spending so much time with myself what was different about it and i just became very very comfortable is not the right word but kind of um some things i really really cared about because i was the only witness to those things i had this weird ego death with with some traits like case in point being the guilt of depression like the guilt of being low and ineffectual just went away completely it's still mostly gone like if i get

depressed as i often do a little more than i'd like then i that sensation of like the frustration you get with yourself like oh i'm just useless i just can't get stuff done the thought is still there but i can dismiss it very quickly the first thing that ago was the um the like the pride around wanting to be right and being embarrassed if i get it wrong and now being back i can feel it coming back it's really weird the only one i could think of i actually got like it's never things worth being informed about because if you are obviously informed about a thing like it's it's hey what's my birthday then there's no discussion to be had if someone's really adamant about it like that's fine there's like this is not a victory no it's not like a it's never a meaning it's always trivial

always got to be small through medium i got the only almost argument there's two i've almost gotten in recently one uh is with a friend of ours great and enjoyed spending time with them certainly but we had this this kind of one moment of friction because they so adamantly were sure that sure of the episode order of the first season of black mirror which i for all i'll make fun of that show i haven't realized recently i'm probably a super fan because i know too much about it right right dog the national anthem i'm daniel khalir and i got a bike watch go. And I can't stop looking at videos from the past.

Those are the three episodes in that order. Oh yeah. Let them know. And then I had like a weird, not even like argument, but me, me and me and Katie got like one of the only debates we've ever had, which was whether or not you could

find a uh local co-op pool game on iphone on the app store like a turn-based pass it back and forth and it was like just fundamentally just i just couldn't communicate why that definitely would be. And that I did. What was your position? Yeah, there is. I was like, yeah. Yeah, I would assume there would be something like that. That was one where I think it was, you know, and it's like 30% a bit.

And it's kind of just for the escalation. And it goes up and down it's like now we're only joking obviously and that was semi-joking but i that's not one i did look up because it did scratch into the like oh come on yeah come on if i look this up you win no yeah if you look it up then it's like i told you of course I'm the winner. I don't know. She's much more reasonable than I am. That's so funny. But I 100% get it.

I mean, I think I'm sure if I like, if you list, if you did like the Pokemon rap and I'm like, that's not in first generation. You know what really gets me is another one of our friends. Like, we were playing Pokemon Go, and, like, there would be, like, technical issues with the app because sometimes it's a little glitchy. And then they would throw out, like, maybe this is the problem. And I'd be like, that's not how apps work. And I'm like, I this is the problem. And I'd be like, that's not how apps work. And I'm like, I know too much about technology. What you're saying isn't even in the realm of possibility for what the issue is.

That's such, the thing is, is that that is a happier way to live. Yeah. Like it's such a freeing way to be, to go. Okay. Like we do a mini scene,

right? Okay. Jacob, can we have a location a steakhouse oh dude uh dude i cannot wait to eat this steak oh monsieur welcome to my french steak oh french my french brazilian steakhouse oh wow it is a fusion i'm the i'm french which sucks you're not a fan of course why don course. Why did I choose this accent? I'm just here for the steak. I really love it. And I love Brazilian meat. But I hate the French.

I, again, don't have a strong stance, but if you hate them, sure. You have to listen. The food is free, but you have to listen. Okay, I have to listen to you talk about how you hate the French. It is like the restaurant where everyone is mean, but just one guy is sad. One guy really hates himself. Dude, this here is the pork loin. Oh, okay.

Do you agree? I don't know enough about meat. But you would say that it is or it is not the pork loin? I mean, we're at a steakhouse, but yeah, sure. Idiot. Oh, okay. Fool. Oh, I'm sorry.

You're an idiot. Oh, I didn't know. an idiot oh i didn't know bad way to live yeah bad way to live even at a thing that you are informed on yeah as a french uh as a french canadian quebecian brazilian native native yeah how are you okay at the direct center between those two points you're a native of french brazil yeah of course uh but then will you go into that restaurant and be be super demanding and say that is not a pork chop are you insane that's nuts yeah then it's the authority i feel like the the freeing way is to be like okay yeah hey man you don't get the pork chop today yeah uh you order a burger uh medium and it comes a little brown and you're like if you're the guy who goes this i should have pink in the center take this back and cook it again i'm gonna nom nom on my blood blood meat

i'll be like oh fucking hell newly i do not but i just don't want to be around you that was weird um you watch hell's kitchen or kitchen nightmares or any other uh kitchen nightmares and i try to watch hell's kitchen but it didn't click with me there's too much not the interesting part yeah the ratio is way off but there is a um in hell's kitchen g Gordon has what I guess is his general, actual, long-time chief of staff, waiter guy. The showrunner for the night or whatever. And this guy is, now he could be from Corvacuna. Damn, he's French.

He could be German, but damn, is he French. He is so French. He is like, he should have like a baguette and a little beret and like uh it's weird how there's two types of beret and one of them's for guns and one of them's like a mime oh my god don't you feel foolish for listening to the audio version missing out on oh no it's a seal team six that's saddam he's shooting bullets inside of his inside of his mind box so they're just ricocheting around why'd i do that also i did not do good object work for the gun because i don't know how to use one yeah and oh you you think you're cool yeah oh that's one um i'm actually type of person

that i cannot abide it's a gun nerd oh yeah i know the type it's like what are you what what victory are you except for that one time that most critical like explain the difference between like clips and mags that was fine that was awesome that was cool oh well actually dude that's the perfect example right is where somebody it's it's uh it's kind of like when you get booted from twitter or well in the past which now only happens if you like change your name to to pickle rick it's like that's not the real pick up where you change your name to like trans people are cool actually they're like hate you because i'm hate you you're not allowed to say that cow slaughter machine from old country no country romance yeah uh but like it's like when you get i mean when you get kicked off of any platform and the out the analogy that people now use which i

think it's fairly accurate is like you're walking into someone else's house and like taking your shit on the floor you can do that at home yeah but's not, you don't have freedom of shitting here. Right, not allowed to do that. That is kind of what it's like when somebody comes into your domain. It's like, I actually know a little more about this. Oh, yeah. Like on the thing that really messes me up about that would be when I would stream Minecraft. And then people would backseat or just backseating on Twitch in general.

There would be so much of me that would want to go I know more than you you're wrong you're wrong and you're loud and you're wrong the numbers on my side yeah and then and then it's like and then the some I think uh at least a couple of times I've done this where I like go through I like take the person at their word and i go oh is this what i do oh no you see it doesn't work because you don't know anything i know you don't pulling down one of those like adjustable whiteboards and pointing at it with a laser yeah they're like well actually you can you know uh you can get the flim flam by uh rubbing the pig and i'm like you can't get the you can't do that that's not the mechanic in the game um yikes bestie pressed yeah oh you actually care about

that that's the get out right it's the smoke bomb yeah oh wow okay because i think i um more i i think more than being wrong i hate being corrected when i'm right because then i feel like i go mask off you're dumb i'm smart you're dumb like it needs to be like approved especially in a forum like twitch or youtube or something where it's like but yeah of course i have the channel i'm posting the videos i don't need to fight this battle exactly it's like you don't need to fight the battle at all i am i did ask uh i think it was uh austin or keola somebody on our team i asked them to just read like about 20 comments on a video that i put out no the video was fine like i like just fine he's doing really short notice and shout out to the team for helping me with that but i i worry about technical issues like that in one time in the past there was like a fuck up with uh the processing radio processing on a video that i was very proud

of and uh it just meant that like the first thousand views in the first you know 20 30 minutes or whatever would just uh and then just after that you can see a noticeable drop off for the first thousand views or whatever just tons of comments like the audio is desync this is all fucked up and i i only caught it because i made the rare choice to read the comments which i would not normally do and i i i now my insurance for that is just asking someone on our team to read like a couple dozen. Yeah.

Because if I'm going to read the comments, I'm going to wait until it's kind of a herd immunity is kicked in and the cream has risen to the top. If you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. You can, I think the safest way to read the comments is like you're saying like

after video going to the actual video page and then reading what the top comments are. Because when you read the little individual comments that come in, it activates my like the same thing I'm describing. was on my most recent video which is about the trend of people telling fake stories or acting as if like stories from reddit and shit are their own oh sure yeah uh like that that trend on tiktok hey reddit this is a painting my grandfather did um on his deathbed and then it's like a picasso painting yeah it would it will the video is called lying on tiktok for clout which yes yeah you would assume was about people lying on tiktok someone said it's just an act the dude is just being weird and attracting a following how could jarvis not realize this and i'm like the whole video is about how i realized

this i don't understand i do i we referenced um we talked about this career recently but a friend of ours like disproportionately gets a lot of i get a lot of dms or used to not so much these days but dms of like um yikes dude uh so you're friends with this person have you not seen their video on x and i've usually don't reply but when it's about you know a friend or something that's when i do you know i feel at least i have an opportunity to correct them in a forum that maybe they'd listen to or at least don't i i just replied like wait which video and then they linked the video and the title of the video is the opposite of the thing they're saying yeah they're literally saying like yeah hey uh lebron james is bad at basketball and then he's like did you know he said lebron james is really bad at basketball and then he he's like, did you know he said LeBron James is really bad at basketball?

And then he links the video and says, LeBron James is good at basketball. One of the best players of basketball. There's another thing that people do in the comments where they leave a comment before watching the thing. And don't delete it. And then don't delete it. So the last, on the Hasan episode, sometimes, and maybe this is my sleep apnea induced hypoxia, but it's caused me to like lose the word that I'm looking for when I'm talking sometimes. And it's not always the same as, it's like tip of the tongue type thing.

And so I was trying to remember the term for body doubling right yeah yeah and for i don't know 90 seconds i'm like kind of tip of the tongue while we're having conversation and then i go oh by the way it's body doubling and so someone left a whole paragraph where they're like the thing that drivers is describing is body doubling it's actually really useful for blah blah and i'm like watch 90 more seconds like i get that you're like excited to like say or leave the comment and then watch 90 i don't know what i want i don't know what i want but i can tell you that's annoying to be like explained to when i knew what i was talking about and i all i needed was the grace of 30 seconds to fucking remember the word that's

the tricky thing right because it's nobody is nobody anywhere in that transaction has bad intention no exactly that is like a genuinely accidental car crash right right right no 100 it's like in in it's the wind blew my car i'm like like, I'm like, I totally get. It's like it's a it's a it's a hard line to toe as a creator because the casual thing is like, oh, they didn't mean it like that. Relax. Stop being so like stop thinking so serious. And it's like, no, it's like I'm allowed to feel feel. It's like I can I can be annoyed by something and it doesn't make it inherently bad i can be annoyed by like a friend and it doesn't make them a bad person you know what i mean like it's so sometimes i just like have a

reaction to something that i want to express but it's tough like it's tough as a someone with a platform because you don't want to express it to your platform right yeah yeah um yeah i don't want to reply in that forum yeah uh i do sometimes reply like like um but it's usually very what's the word it's i'm usually replying in a very um matter of fact way oh Oh, like Kurt. Yeah. Cause like, like someone says something and then, and then I can't remember what the comment I left was, but I say, don't I say this in the video? Question mark.

Because it's then forcing them to go, oh, I only watched a second of it. Yeah. Cause I'm actually a huge fan. No. Cause yeah. Yeah. No, literally it's always that too. And then I'm like, right, right.

What am i doing it's like i'm uh the the real issue i always come to or the real resolution the the takeaway i have is that i just need to rise above and be a better more advanced person but i'm not always that way it's like hard to be perfect all the time and it's like if i were playing a turn-based strategy game where i were choosing my decisions from like a dialogue tree then uh i would probably make the right decision but like being in it and having feelings and stuff it complicates the it complicates the equation yeah i yeah it is really interesting i i mean now being inside the game i you know in the youtube space it does become very clear how

many people are cursed with a desire to read the comments and engage with it i don't know why i don't i i think it's the type of content I make, maybe. That's the little insurance. Because I read the Sad Boys comments. Or more, at least. My channel, I don't know. It's just, I never did, so I can keep not doing it. In the case of Sad Boys, now I am curious. And I do like the feedback and guest episodes.

I'm like, what do people think of this? Is this the kind of show people want? Cool. Okay, great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. the kind of show people want cool yeah yeah i the only time i ever got in when i when i did stream many many moons ago the only time i ever got pissed off with my audience was when just it was it wasn't even that many it was like a few dozen people that were doing this so like a minority of viewers but a few dozen

chatters i was watching like some you know some jubilee bullshit and a few people like jumped in and kind of started i hate i hate how much like alt-right dudes have ruined so many useful terms but kind of white knighting i don't know white knight white knighting for a couple of the people in this video because they had cried. The reason they had cried was arbitrary and like self-serving. It was cringe, but it was also manipulative and insane.

And this kind of part of me kicked in of, people were just like, whoa, yikes. Jordan hasn't noticed how problematic this is. This is, this is a real yikes. And the reason I got pissed off about it and just kind of had to kind of knock me off my game was because it's just a bit lazy. It's like a lazy way of engaging with stuff. It's take poisoning.

It's like, oh oh an opportunity to engage critically opportunity to say something negative i'm like no man come on with with the very quick summary of the context was it was literally just like you know it's people vying for cash on a explain why you should have the cash of x or y and one of these people literally just went like yeah i'd lost my friggin keys you know like it was like that tier of thing and i just went like, yeah, I lost my frigging keys. You know, it was like that tier of thing. And I just, I don't know. I can't even articulate it right.

The stuff I think that annoys me is, oh, oh, here's another good one. Is like people saying that calling Kanye, Kanye is dead naming. Oh, yeah. That kind of thing where it's like i understand what you're doing and you're trying to well if it's in faith which often it isn't but let's just say it is yeah i understand that what you're trying to do is like popularize and validate the experiences of people that are dead named yeah but the thing that's bad about dead naming isn't that it you're saying the wrong name that's not the part by itself that's bad right it is the disrespect you're having towards a marginalized

community where the dead naming is designed they're not acknowledging of like an identity type thing deliberate action it's like a slur for the wrong group right and and with uh with the yay situation it's like um yeah it i see what you mean where it's like people mean well and there's like a more nuanced conversation to be had but that it's not going to be had in this like in in this arena in this moment in this context and i just and i i don't know i don't know why it irks me so much there's just something about like if you're going to be an advocate for this kind of stuff as you should and as a lot of people do appreciate you got to put your best foot forward like you gotta you gotta resist against just indulging in some capital d discourse on everyone's favorite platform x yeah x yet no uh sometimes i well maybe once

i think yeah i think it's um ultimately what i try to remind myself is that this kind of thing is like a good problem because we've attracted an audience of people who care and want to do the right thing uh and and where those shitty comments stand out because you're like whoa and and also like while i you know um we have an audience that is comprised of a number of various marginalized groups who do uh feel some some of whom feel a safety in the space we've created we can never be a safe space as individuals for like it's it's because we're we don't know you know we can't be a safe space for everyone because anything could trigger anyone you know what i mean so there's no it's like very hard to cultivate a space that like is impossible to give someone a bad feeling yeah sure and and and uh i

have sometimes found like we put our best foot forward and we try. And I think that it's, this is not a complaint, but it is a little, and I'm not looking to be thanked for this. It was a preface, but it's a thankless endeavor and you have to do so out of a genuine intention of wanting to like act your values than being praised for doing doing the right thing you know what i mean yeah sure no i because i i'm just thinking about like my own experience with yeah i'm just thinking about my own experience no i feel you i mean it's not i think if i i we certainly do make a concerted effort to be welcoming and to yes absolutely but at the same time it definitions of that can be different and i think the only two things you can really do are critically think about feedback when it does come in and yeah and address it accordingly if you believe you should right and also just advocate for the principles you do have. Yeah.

Not indulge in like taking swings at others because it's fun to take swings at others. Yeah, exactly. You know who struggles with it or like gets a lot of flack for this stuff? And I think it's maybe the most extreme contrast for this where anytime they don't anytime they break their bubble of of allyship or kind of miss the mark they their audience is pretty vitriolic about it it's the mackler brothers and they have uh i mean i haven't really kept up with their stuff for the last couple years but uh they historically all three of them just from the shows that they produced that kind of general public personas and youtube podcasts everything are kind of an even polygon when justin griffin

involved polygon it's kind of fledgling days they're very very very big advocates for the, for progressive politics and discourse and like social acceptance of trans people and LGBTQ plus people. And I, there have just been a number of times where I've seen that like the, the, the demographic that's most active for them just fucking hate them. Like some of the most, like the cruelest Tumblr post screenshots i've seen or

discord posts just like uh an audience of otherwise like pretty soft soy people just being like it's time to burn them down and you're like whoa i i think i kind of understand what's happening it's that like you offered somebody shelter and then they right in like the decor you know yeah it's it's interesting like it's it's it's it's something that's also inherently parasocial because you were projecting like like we we had a guest on recently i don't want to go into the specific comment commenter but like we had a guest on and somebody was like i can't believe you would have have someone on who has made jokes about this topic in the past and i thought this was a safe space

and it's like i just i think that their feelings are, but also I have to like know what my limits are in or what our limits are in order, uh, in the interest of like creating a safe space that's safe for every possible thing. You know what I mean? And preserving the, like our actual way we engage in the way that the way that you engage and preserving the humanity.

Because I don't want to only – I want to be able to speak candidly. You know what I mean? Because I think there's a humanity to speaking candidly. I'm a pretty diplomatic person. I'm a person who's really careful with like what I put out there. And like if you have conversations with real people in the real world or when I do have conversations with people who aren't in this like content creator bubble, sometimes people say stuff where I'm like, ooh, Twitter wouldn't like that one. What the fuck did Hassan say when we did Free Rant? Yeah.

He asked us something that was potentially like we could say. Yeah, I was like, I'm not going to speak on Britney Spears. Oh, yes. And they were just like, I thought it was actually, he was like, they're YouTubers, they're YouTubers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. I'm like, yo, you streamers will just say anything. Because I guess they're constantly in a state of being

canceled for something which makes sense because if you're if you're on stream for as long as you are any micro thing can be blown out of proportion sure and also there's only like so judicious you can be about the things you say and the way you say them because there's no edit and you if you were you would be spending 12 hours of your life half of your professional or half of your life is spent self-censoring to like some degree yeah and the only reason i can do it to some extent to the extent that i can is because i've been self-censoring my entire life like i i went back to like yeah it's not because we're YouTubers. No, no, no. It predates. It's because you would have thought me at 12 was running for office. Because I was, like, the...

You know, Miss, you made... That's an interesting position you've taken. Now, of course, I would contest that Tristan sucks and is really mean. And actually, he took my toy. Right. But, hey. What do I know? Come on.

I, myself, take a position of uh egalitarian respect and i hope i have your vote for class yeah i can understand why quinshawn might have stolen my krillin toy uh but i do ask that he does not come back into my home to steal again and i'm not going to hold on to it i'm not gonna yeah i'm not gonna hold on to it forever this is not published it's not gonna be sitting in my storage unit to this day dude that fucking sucked by the way when you when you found that i had been i've been researching that it was not fair my birthday was coming up i had like a whole ebay list of buying you this toy you lost so many years ago but uh to to tie up that last thing um yeah i've got the worst things i've ever said on the internet to my knowledge are uh when i was 14 on uh my podcast um the random podcast that i had when i was 14 and i've already like talked about

i've already talked about those things publicly to get ahead of them as if i had when i was 14 and i've already like talked about i've already talked about those things publicly to get ahead of them as if i as if i could expect to be canceled for things i said when i was 14 years old um but uh but i looked at you know people are like oh i went back through my old tweets and i had to like delete stuff or oh, people are deleting their old tweets. I routinely go back through my old tweets and it's literally just me making dad jokes and like tweeting at like the at midnight account and tweeting puns and shit like that. And like, it's really like I just had a big cookie

and now I'm going to have a big sleep. That was like my, that was my twitter my twitter experience on their occasion where somebody has clearly like gone through the archive or something and i get somebody that likes a tweet from 2010 i my heart rate goes through the fucking roof i just please don't i mean you can if you want just be aware that like i have not gone back through them i probably i mean i can i checked some keywords like i did run through it when like i don't want not even for self-preservation i don't think anything will happen to me it's more like i don't want to make someone sad i don't

want to make someone that cares enough about my stuff and feel for whatever reason connects with it to just be bummed out on a sunday right you know even because they read me exactly like a what is now a slur that i maybe at the time thought was like like the r word for example yeah i checked that and i had not tweeted it but there was a period of time a little before twitter came out and maybe when i was like nine or ten where that was like that was just the equivalent of like saying silly it was yeah so oh it was all over middle school if i said like shit at school i'd be in more trouble and you i mean you said it right man i wouldn't ask for any other audience yeah i'm gonna get

called on something i'd rather it was something that i either agree on or at least respect the ideas behind um how the fuck are you what's up dude tell me the truth dude i'm get one of them lamps from a interview like an interrogation room somehow it's plugged in in your house it's like flickering you're like hitting the table it's like it's like yeah but it's daytime so you can just know no effect the light um and then there's a small like a good cop in the background and he's he's like he's like i don't know he's he's off he's going crazy look i'm gonna leave the light alone but i can't promise what will happen when my partner comes in here yeah he's gonna start swinging that thing around the light may go everywhere you should have more lights in there huh yeah it's all a part of the tricks it's a bunch of reading paper

and stuff like like i can't fucking see it um do you know this man like i'm not sure sorry do you recognize this picture i yeah truly cannot um i am good i've been playing so much Pokemon Go, but it's making me so happy. Thank you for the gift, by the way. You sent me a gift after we became friends. I did send you a gift. That was very sweet. I want to show you something. We're back on that bullshit. I've been playing Pokemon Go.

I've been playing it with our friend BB. I've been playing it with our friend Becca. I've been getting everyone i know back into it i'm trying to sam from h3 just texting me that she redownloaded it um not sponsored but not sponsored in the slightest but i would take a sponsorship i would i would absolutely take a sponsorship you're welcome but uh but the thing i was showing jacob so i have been so here's what happened i was trying to figure out why i started playing pokemon go because uh uh someone asked me because eric uh who's a minecrafter a friend of mine had

like when when when they were in la last because they're in the uk now um had me download it and i had it on my phone since then for a few months and i didn't tap in at all and then i did that pokemon sleep sponsorship and i started playing pokemon sleep a bunch and i was like oh this is fun and uh then i was getting i was on my health kick i was i was like doing exercise i was i was running on my treadmill and stuff and then my blowing in your special tube in my yeah my special tube my treadmill fucking broke it like too good at running i yeah i got on it i like turned it on boop I started like keying in the like elevation and the speed

and then it just powered off and I haven't been able to get it on since then warning too goaded too fast you're too sick he's him you are him shutting down computer no don't stop keep going

and so I was i i still want to get out because it's like bumming me out but but it's hot and i don't want to walk around but i want i was like i want a treat for walking around i want a dopamine hit because the dopamine hit from exercise isn't enough i need more and i deserve it and And so I like got back into Pokemon Go for the first time since 2016. And look at my steps this month on average. What the fuck? I think I'm roughly know when you started playing Pokemon Go again. Yeah, exactly.

So it's like I was walking like a couple miles a day um uh i was walking for a couple miles a day normally but i wasn't being too too active and then in the past week i have averaged 8.6 miles a day walking which is crazy it's like 20 000 steps a day uh and then since i moved these are the flights of stairs that have gone up oh yeah it's a lot 24 is it yeah 24 flights a day of stairs it's crazy the stairs because my house now has yes it's the first time i've lived with stairs in like a number of years and and not just going into the apartment but inside the apartment it really changes your psychology yeah it's like now it's time for downstairs i'm going to have a couple hours on the middle floor yeah because otherwise i have to go up or down yeah i uh we made the fatal mistake of having our trash on the top floor because that's what the kitchen is every time i need to go upstairs i like look for excuses not to do it i'm like oh i left

my keys upstairs i cannot leave unless i go up there frick maybe i need more keys what if i just leave my apartment unlocked uh but yeah pokemon go has brought a lot of joy to my life i'm hyper focused on it right now i started some channels in my discord been brought a lot of joy to my life. I'm hyper-focused on it right now. I started some channels in my Discord, been getting a bunch of people in my own community doing raids, fighting Pokemon. I'm level 37 right now, if anybody's curious. And if Max is 50, but getting like 37 is pretty, it's starting to get up there.

If you're high level in Pokemon Go, hit me up. Let's raid. Let's do some raids. And if you're in LA and play Pokemon Go, I might be down to beat up a person. I kind of want to stream it. I kind of want to stream it. Like going somewhere and then stream it. But I would have to figure out how it would work.

It's funny because this is basically just like a scaling dopamine to exercise ratio. Yeah. like i think i'm gonna stream it i'm thinking do crack yeah i'm doing it literally yesterday i was like my legs were tired i'd been out all day and i really wanted to hatch some eggs and i was like we're going you know what i'm saying we're going on saturday night baby i'm like we're going back in. I'm sorry, I walked an additional like 3,000 steps or something. But my legs have been good. My body's been feeling good. The social elements of Pokemon Go are kind of blowing my mind. Because, first of all, way more people play this game than you would think.

Because during the Pokemon Go boom of like 2016, what is... Okay. In your head, what's a lot of players of a game? Oh, man. Like just of any game. Yeah. I mean, Concurrent on Steam, for example. Yeah.

Like, I think fucking Baldur's Gate, huge, huge, huge explosion. Right. It's like 200k its first week for concurrence yeah maybe more a big l on a launch is like anything less than 10 000 right is it but that's also sales yeah and like for for example like at any given time like a hundred thousand people are playing runescape right now it's actually growing still which is great good good for runescape i haven't played in two years still watch all the content um shout out to all the runescape content creators out there uh but um for the months of pokemon goes release 232 million people play the game so that was in 2016 yeah so that was basically that was when it was a craze and everyone played it and like with little hordes of locusts in San Francisco, we would float around.

Yeah, yeah. And. Like, almost like an insult to the city. Yeah, truly. Just like evidence of gentrification. Just all of us walking around in our little like tech H&M hoodies. Right. Just like, oh my goodness.

Yeah, pretty much. Is that Geodude? Yeah, that's, I still say that to this day um and so then pokemon go like it uh like basically niantic the company like could not keep up with the demand their servers were always crashing the game wasn't stable blah blah um 2017 had a huge drop off and it's like kind of but the thing is the highs were so high and the drop off was so big that the the conversation was all about the drop off but the lowest number of players pokemon go has ever had in a given month is 62 million what the fuck yeah it's and so there's just that's so much higher than i would have ever

guessed no me too in a month in a month yeah i mean pokemon's a huge franchise but at the same time it's such a this is not flicking on a console yeah this is a very different and and to be to play it it's you could play it probably you pop hop in for a little bit, for like a moment. Yeah. And so... It does some good notifications for incentives. So if you have notifications on, I flick it open. Yeah, that's good. Because there's also... The thing they do really well is events, which I will be talking about soon.

But... That's one thing. For people who've never played Pokemon Go, initial Pokemon Go during the boom did not have much in the way of application for the Pokemon. Yeah, there wasn't anything to do other than collecting them. And I remember like getting to level 20 was really big deal. I remember Snorlax was impossible to find. Gyarados was impossible to get because Magikarp took so many candies.

And then there were no legendaries. And so, yeah, all of that's changed. There's like 700 or so pokemon in pokemon go it's not every pokemon from every generation but it's like most of the generations and then spotty from like generations like six through nine uh nine is actually a dropping for the first time september 5th uh and i'll be there new season of pokemon go starting adventures abound the paldea starters are coming anyway the the discord will do a big meet up oh yeah i mean i might do that but uh the i was talking about the well anyway the game has just like kind of been on the low boil

like boiling at a low heat and so i don't that's that's 68 million yeah like it's still like okay yeah and and like niantic um has been trying to like recreate the the boom you know brian uh talked about um hey bro hello when we had brian on he was talking about pikmin bloom that's another game that's still around niantic actually previous to pokemon go had done ingress which i didn't even know but that was a game that like russell my friend russell played in san francisco back in the day it was like an ar go out and about like there's stuff going on type game anyway uh like life yeah there's stuff going on finally outside the stuff going on so what's interesting is like uh niantic they're really into ar like it's i think they're really into like combining uh real life experiences with

technology what's the term they're using for if you take a it's world splice reality cutting reality blending yeah hell yeah this past weekend was go fest global go fest and i went uh to the santa monica pier with uh bb um our friend bb and also with our friend becca and it like this isn't like the global go fest is just it's happening for everybody wherever they are. But at events like this, people like to meet up. Like, for example, there's a raid hour today where there's going to be more raids of this legendary Pokemon Yveltal. And I might drive over to Santa Monica Pier and see if people are doing raids for it. Because I want to get a sense of like what the local community is like.

How long is this thing going? An hour. The whole festival or whatever? Oh, so the festival was this past weekend. But there's so many events. I'll tell you about it. For example, this Saturday from 2 to 5, there's a community day where there's a celebration of a specific Pokemon. And there's XP bonuses and perks and stuff.

Charmander is the community day. So from two to five i'm going to be playing that whole thing and i might go somewhere and just like play um but anyway go fest we went to santa monica pier and the whole reason i was saying that it was like this um it's a global event where there's not like a specific location because they already had an event in new york and they've had an an event in Japan but this was like every everyone's getting this event now there wasn't anything in LA but I just we just went to Santa Monica Pier because we knew that it was a hot spot for Pokemon Go and has been since the original boom you would have thought it was a goddamn Go convention everyone

everyone was playing Pokemon Go there the whole pier was full of people on their phones playing Hundreds in hundred like like I'm talking like probably 200 to 300 people playing From the most beautiful thing about it was it was people of all ages I saw like old like like maybe women in their 60s two buddies play And they had like go fest shirts on and i was like this is just like go fest new york shirt so they were they traveled to that event they haven't walked the whole way yeah yeah yeah and then and then i there were kids playing with their parents whole families playing i am playing currently with uh jacksepticeye's editor trey and trey's mom and dad both play and so i play with them also because they're really high level.

So they carry me through the raids. And like, for example, I'll show you. This is such a nice case study in why gamer elitism and gatekeeping is just so outdated. It's like this counts. This is gaming. This counts. Yeah. So check this out. gatekeeping is just so outdated it's like this counts this is gaming this this counts yeah so check this out this is a this is a shiny snorlax with a cowboy hat milady which was a um

which was a event uh you know you can scroll down here and i caught it in santa monica um on 8 27 and it was part of pokemon go fest 2023. And when I caught this, we were walking. You need to keep walking to keep the spawns going. So that's another reason that I'm walking a ton. I have reached a... Yeah, I've quite often reached a satiation point where doing it from the beanbag in my bedroom seems to be limited Pokemon-wise.

Maybe because there's a road right by my house maybe they're being hit yeah that's true yeah i check the ar the reality is blending just a b drill splatter b drill is is blending with the concrete so reality bending with my truck yeah i'm bending the fucking slow poke around my truck. Um, so the driver has no idea what's happened. They can't see anything. Yeah.

Just dent. I was thinking about that. Like, uh, when you do AR with your buddy, I was like, can never see dragon. But,

um, so he's going to dragon. Dragon is my buddy. It's not a dragon. Do you know? It's not a dragon. She, he is a dragon type. Dragonite's my buddy. He's not a dragon type. Do you know he's not a dragon type? Do you know that?

He is a dragon type. No. No. Charizard's not a dragon type. Wrong. The fun fact is Charizard's fire and flying and he's not a dragon type. Jarvis. Anyway.

I will. I am the authority. Okay. This is fair. I will do anything. So the reason I showed you that Snorlax. So I'm walking and I catch the Snorlax. And I'm like, to Bebe and Becca, I was like, oh, I got the shiny Snorlax. Like the cowboy hat.

And then this child who's no older than eight goes, oh, my God. I've been trying to get that all day and then his dad looks at me and he goes nice job like his dad and him are both playing there's people with like ipads and phones there's some people like double fisting it like akimbo like iphone akimbo they're playing with two phones a laptop yeah a desktop pc with a generator and it's like uh the downsides of it is like sure there's microtransactions playing free-to-play is very feasible if you live in a big city and there's tons of resources on like how to do that i am not doing that i bought a pokemon go plus plus not sponsored uh and this is an auto catcher that like spins poke stops in your pocket so i was at the

streamies Yeah, yeah, it's literally just like a button it's got a nice weight to it. Yeah, and you can track your sleep Yeah I hate that rap. You don't have to. That's a little rap. I hate that rat. You don't have to. That little rat. I want to burn him. I hate Pikachu.

You can make him roadkill. I want to blend him with my reality. I'm trying to. Okay. He's back. I want to blend him with my AK. AK blending. But anyway, you can use it to track your sleep but uh the main thing is like it sits in your pocket and uh you can catch pokemon with it like afk and then also

spin pokestops which is which is nice but i uh am spending money because i got sponsored for pokemon sleep so now i'm like this is all on the house baby um this is research yeah this is not i cannot stress enough this is not sponsored i've just been a pokemon fan for my whole life so i know it sounds like very like gushy but anyway um but yeah so i've been playing a ton and i'm having a goddamn ball and i'm gonna be playing this weekend i'm gonna play later today and it's just like a part of my like routine i think it's gonna like the goal is just to have it like sink into my normal routine because there's um like in the mornings you get a free incense that spawns special pokemon including like uh uh like articuno zapdos and multrace

potentially like uh they're very rare and they run away from you they're very hard to catch but that's only a 15 minute everyday thing and i have been walking to breakfast that's like a mile and a half away and then like doing my like daily stuff and then i walk back and then that's already i've like got three miles in i had breakfast i like played a little pokemon go had a good time i honestly dude i got my bike fixed semi-recently. I have been waking up a little late, so it hasn't been quite viable, because if the roads are busy, I will be blended with the reality of the road.

Right. I mean, also, you've been to my apartment. The surrounding area is like bike paths, like just kind of a premise. Yeah. Just kind of an idea. You kind of just have to pretend to be a car, which makes no one happy

yeah it turns out that okay well i need to get in a car to be one shot no it's like it's like when you when you're biking on a road like what because this wasn't me in san francisco when you're biking on a road it's like yes i i'm supposed to be treated like a car and the cars are supposed to go behind me but no one's happy with that arrangement the cars don't want to go 15 miles an hour uh i don't want to feel a metal death trap like like breathing down but my neck dude i legitimately i used to ride to the patreon office from mine which basically i was just going across market from the tenderloin and then just down ninth right and it was and thanks it's like a pretty quiet street like relative to to a city don't just go roads are relatively quiet before

you hit kind of the south end mission etc yeah yeah but we're downtown there is like i don't think they know you're allowed to be there they legit but they would just honk at me for being in the bike lane oh yeah do you think this is just like a painting of a bike that they have on the road for like fun oh the only reason i felt safe in um bike because i used to bike to work uh at patreon as well the only reason i felt safe and it was like on false it was the false uh the the one we moved to the only reason i felt safe is because there was a fleet of other bikers that were biking at the same time and i was like well they can't hit all of us there's only so many they can kill um are you playing the numbers game but it's a huge problem in san francisco like there's tons

of deaths that are caused by like um essentially like drivers not being not paying attention and but it's also a horrible city to own a car in yeah so like the weird compromise yeah exactly i do fucking miss going to an office though i do i really including for like i mean the motive the motivation you're saying for pokemon go as in having somewhere to go and a process of going there every day i know we were tasting the other day it's it's not fair that you could do so much for your depression by going outside yeah it shouldn't work like that right it should you should get that from like eating thin mints or something yeah you should get that from having yoshinoya i i the i it was like 100 degrees outside in la yesterday and i still did my like pokemon go step and i i was safe you know it's like i was hydrating and stuff like that but i was like damn

this game got me walking around in 100 degree weather and i'm just chilling very cute they give that little heat warning oh they did the one give a heat warning. The one last thing I'll say about Pokemon Go, there's a funny interaction I had. I was walking to my breakfast spot. I was on the sidewalk and I caught a raid that was happening. And it was like an easy raid to do for like one person. But then another person joined the raid and I was like, oh, whatever. And then I just like did it.

And then we beat the raid. And I was about to start walking to um my breakfast and then somebody honked at me and i was like oh i must be like close to a car in the road or something's happening i don't know what i did but i'm someone's mad at me and then i look up and there's a maintenance guy parked in the middle of the road with his hazards on and he goes and he was the guy raiding with me that's sick it was so sick that's so funny that's basically like the ad that they yeah it like half it felt like a commercial do you remember when the switch was announced and it was two people playing online and then they were on the roofs right

over here brother yeah go have a house party literally and i was like man and the thing is i would have a i would have small talk with a stranger about pokemon go it's because uh there's lots to talk about it feels like what i assume talking about like monday night football is yeah i mean oh the game last night huh what's going on with that like there's so many little things that happen where it's like oh this morning um a freaking a shiny ran away from me and it was very sad and somebody that actually did happen to me this morning a shiny pat rat ran away and so i have this very sad straight into the freeway now he's blended with the street um and now i have this very sad um journal entry where it says parrot ran away but it's like it's got the shiny stars

uh and he had blue eyes it was a beautiful beautiful rat how incredibly shameful i know look at him oh he's cute i really do hate pikachu like that's a cute rat i do think if i saw a pikachu i would just i would take it to a vet I haven't put down. I would be like, I found just a dangerous rat. And it's electric. It's electric. I like Pikachu enough. The thing about Pikachu is because he's like a mascot mode. They just do pikachu too much like for the uh for the weekend there were these they had these

biomes where there was like different pokemon would uh spawn every hour and for each biome the um like so it would be like um it would be like the ice biome or the whatever. And for each one, there was a special Pikachu with a little crown. And there are like four event Pikachus that you could get. And I was like, I don't, you know, I like kind of, I like don't care about this, but I also like kind of like that it's exclusive and cool. And I did get two shinies of the crowned Pikachu. So I'm like, I don i'm in i'm in too deep

all right gang what does phase clan orange chicken pizza rolls mean it's exactly like it sounds what could that possibly i'm sorry i should say wait can we go back what the fuck is this wait no no no go back go back yeah go back to the previous like this is for those who don't know jacob is kind enough to to pull together for a conversation board whatever topics we've been talking about throughout the week or we jot down on their phone just for reference we we can never get to all of them but it you know it helps to have like a surplus this is maybe the most deranged it's ever been this is insane i mean i mean well well i guess we can touch on the topics but it does include guy with monkey true uh crocs just crocs by itself the crocs

thing by the way is uh i've been walking a lot and when i first started walking a lot my the thing that i slip on to walk out to like take dipper to go to the bathroom or something is Crocs because uh we met like a Croc person at VidCon last year and then they sent me a bunch of pairs of free Crocs and so I've never paid I have like five pairs of Crocs I've never paid for one of my life and I like I even like the way they look practically walking. I get so much random shit in my feet. And I'm like, what am I doing? I'm kicking up little dirt and twigs and fucking flora or whatever into my feet. And it hurts. And then I have to shake out my shoes.

It's like I shake out my shoes like five rocks fall out. And I'm like, where did they come from? You need some defensive giblets yeah some shielding giblets jibbitz those little bags that like serial killers put on their shoes we need the shane dawson spikes yeah the punk the punk ones so for that reference uh we okay so this is a Patreon thing, and I was going to say not sponsored, but it is. But that was organic. We reacted to Shane Dawson's most recent fast food conspiracy video in our emotional pervert tier on our Patreon. How long was the react? Just over an hour.

It was over an hour of us reacting. We do a full 30 minutes on just his brand deal that he did. No! No! Oh, my God! So, yeah, anyway, in that Shane Dawson does wear Crocs that have spikes on them. Patreon.com. That boy's getting an extra episode every single week.

And at the higher tiers, you can get even more stuff. Hey, forget about it. Yeah, so like for $5 a month, you can get every single bonus episode. You get access to every single bonus episode. And there's like... Okay, so there's 26 episodes of Sad Boys Nights right now. And then there's additional videos at the higher tiers as well.

So we've got like a MILF Manor react. We've got the Shane react react we've got a um the shane react we've got a different chain react it's becoming a trend um but uh and we had that old some old apps oh yeah there's like a an episode we did with mkbhd that never got released middle of the end of 2020 yeah it's like end of 2020 early 2021 um so anyway organic ad placement for our patreon uh also bonus episodes with a ton of our guests like you know all the last guests that have been on have had extra episodes but anyway that'll be the patreon plug for this episode we did it yeah we did a shane react and uh the man has some badass giblets.

Gibbets? Gibbets. That's so close to giblets. I want to say giblets. So gibbets isn't anything. Yeah. Gibbets sounds way more familiar. He has little spikes in his crocs.

So North Korean basketball. Why is that on here? Oh, which we did the FaZe Clan one too. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, wait. FaZe Clan. Well, we were just talking about the random stuff.'s out here guy with monkey face clan orange chicken psychic powers crocs psychic powers illuminati north korean basketball that's like my activation phrase

it sounds like um that song situation guy with a monkey yeah bad pockets of the week north korean basketball we didn't start the fire torturing yourself on stream uh no i um uh before we click on the face plan Clan one, do you know the FaZe Clan did an official collaboration with DC Comics? FaZe Clan and Batman? No way. Yeah.

A real comic. I don't know if it was a run or a single comic, but it is like... It's like they do, you know, like Robocop and Superman team up to play Call of Duty or whatever the fuck they do. I couldn't believe it. I tried like, I'm not gonna pay for it. So, you know, I haven't read it.

And I can name all the members. I don't think I can name any of them. FaZe Jarvis. Oh, yes. I can. Well, he's no longer in FaZe Clan. Fuck. I can name none of the members of FaZe Clan. I can name the ones, the two that got kicked out. FaZe K in FaZe Clan. Fuck. Yeah. I can name none of the members of FaZe Clan.

I can name the ones, the two that got kicked out, FaZe K and FaZe Jarvis because they're brothers and one of them has my name. And FaZe Jarvis' manager or someone claiming to be FaZe Jarvis' manager DMed me and asked me to give FaZe Jarvis my internet handles. And I'm like, in what fucking universe you insane person give yeah now and uh i blocked him i didn't even respond i'm like you are you were tripping dude but but i but i have nothing bad to say about faze jarvis uh i don't know him and uh only this thing to say about someone who was at least claiming to be his manager at a certain point in time that was like years ago.

I mean, hey, the guy knows Batman. How bad can he be? Yeah. He fought the Joker. I don't know what the comic is about. What did they do? It's Call of Duty, right? They used to be like you used to do like a trick shot and stuff, right?

They were like the dude of 360 no scopes yeah but then so now they are a competitive team and i yeah well they have a number of competitive they are in the esports space yeah and they sponsor spargo like pretty smash player pretty competitive right like they at various points in time have been but then at other points in other games haven't been but it seems like currently they're not very the main avenue is influencer that was like a thing where it's like oh we make more money if we lean into the influencer aspect it's they're smart too yeah there's no there's very little competition relative to a competition yeah you could lose lose uh but yeah anyway they but his clan but do you know about the stuff that happened with FaZe Clans?

Like the sort of, they went public? Yes. Yeah. So like. And ate shit maybe? Yeah. Basically the valuation of the company was like a billion dollars when they went public. And now they're about to be delisted from the stock exchange because the stock went so low. We should say that the valuation is speculative

and often bullshit, especially with smaller, very famous orgs that get their valuation via maybe some of the most reputable or informed sources. And what happened with FaZe Clan was that they didn't list traditionally. They did this process where they like take another company that's already on the stock market

and they merge with that company and then it changes its entity and it results. It's actually a kind of back door. It's like a, yeah, reality bending. Yeah, it's called a SPAC, Special Purpose Acquisition Company. Huh. But yeah, so it opened in July 2022 at $13 per share. Do you want to guess at what it's trading at?

It opened at $13 per share. Two? It was $2 per share. Per share. Two? Is it $2 a share? 27 cents. Let's buy some FaZe. 27 cents. Damn. Yeah.

How about buying a controlling stake of FaZe and making them only play, like, Clash of Clans? This is their stuff. Oh my god, dude. Yeah, it's like they go public they go public they reach a high of 17 in september 2nd 2022 and by november september october november yeah so in in two short months they are at two dollars fucking hell and then now they're 27 cents um but still a viable company internally right they're still doing what they do they've things are rough because i think there's a this internal tug of war between the uh original members because you remember when that girl from stranger things uh joined phase and

then got kind of bullied out of it by one of the other members really yeah um i feel like the the the news about them and the controversies they get so dense yeah yeah uh yeah it was like um there was uh grace phase grace grace van dean this actress who was in an episode of Stranger Things. Oh, yeah, we should talk about that, too. We just got to add that in later. We just got too many topics this time. But, yeah, this actress got called out because she didn't know what, like, a trick shot was or whatever. And then Faye's Reign, an older member. got called out because she didn't know what like a trick shot was or whatever and then phase rain

an an older member this is like old old drama but like phase rain like kind of made her cry he didn't come out looking super great this is when they all live this is no this isn't even this is when she joined she just like they announced that she joined and then like a few a month later she was like out because of like this because all of these because all the original phase members are like they're selling the soul the company for the suits or whatever and they didn't get like the right ownership so they're not really profiting from the company i'm not sure how much they're profiting but phases just got lots of stuff and apparently one of the things they have is orange chicken pizza rolls is this new dexado dexado does the most with the least well first it was news now

it's like a sponsored thing with dexado totino's orange pizza roll what was it was the uh total uh totino's orange pizza roll review What was it? What was the title? Totino's Orange Pizza Roll Review. The perfect zest for a gaming sesh. It just feels like an outdated version of gaming marketing. I kind of want pizza rolls now. I don't need this brand. Orange chicken inside a pizza roll. I've never considered orange chicken inside of a pizza roll.

Idea for a segment. We do one of those. uh, tries American candy or whatever, but I get some of my favorite British ones. Yeah. No, I've never had a pizza roll. Oh, you know what we need to do? Oh, oh, oh yeah. We need Sam for this.

Sam could crush this. Uh, I forgot to get us pumpkin spice lattes. Oh, that's right for a taste test maybe we can still make this happen on the bonus um to tatinas and phase clan back at it again did they do something well i don't know maybe they have done something in the past uh dexereto by the way literally they post they post so much for clicks that i today got poke two pokemon go stories from texas recommended to me pokemon go bans players abusing xl candy exploit and routes pokemon go players divided over charmander community day classic reveal let me talk about that for a second

there's drama in the pokemon go community this saturday, from 2 to 5, there's a Charmander Classic Community Day. Community Day Classic. The Community Days, they're meant, or the Community Day Classics are meant to be like Pokemon that are classic that newer players have not gotten a chance to get. And Community Days

happen like once a month or every couple months or something. And it's three days. The Pokemon's everywhere easy to get easy to uh to farm to try to get the shiny version try and get good ivs on the shiny version anyway um people are mad about the charmander one because they uh have done charmander community days twice before in the past. And I was like, that's kind of understandable, but it's a little gatekeepy because like, what about the new people? But then the, okay. If you were like, oh, other,

like Charmander has been featured in Community Days twice before. But, and so people want to, some diehards want to see it like a new pokemon featured how long ago do you do you think the last charizard community day was three years ago well you guessed it correctly oh my god yeah yeah yeah 27 cents i think well but i think it's insane the last it is long the last charizard community was in 2020 and so i'm like people were like we've already had a Charizard Community Day. I'm like, yeah, three years ago.

What the fuck? They're mad that there's been a new Charizard Community Day in three years. Because they're like, we already had it. And I'm like, no, not all of us have been playing this game for six years. People reach the age where they start playing video games. I would be like, oh, it's one thing if it happened like a couple months ago. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I'm like, it's been three years.

But I'm psyched because I haven't... I don't fucking care. Just do it. There's a community every month. Relax. Alright. Did we find another FaZe Clan product? They had Buffalo Chicken at one point. What is going on?

Both pizza rolls, yes? Yeah i i need to give an update about my sleep apnea stuff this last week i had what may have been one of the worst like doctor visits i've ever had in my life because I go into this like ear, nose and throat doctor. And so where we last left our sleepy heroes, I was complaining about how all of my doctors were on vacation and they couldn't explain my sleep state. Yeah.

And, um, which is like a very new diagnosis you're exploring. Yeah. And also in the report, they they're like here's the treatment options like jaw surgery like c-pap machine like all these things and i'm like that sounds so extreme i need a doctor to talk me through this and uh so the next doctor that would know anything about this i was seeing was like a ear nose and throat doctor to talk to about my deviated septum.

And I go in and I mentioned the sleep apnea stuff and they're like, oh, well, do you have your sleep study with you? And I was like, yeah. And then they're like, do you want me to explain this to you? And I was like, oh, okay, sure. And then she was like, yeah, so you should never drink alcohol again you need a c-pat machine you shouldn't sleep on your back your uh your brain is gonna die due to like your brain tissue's dying due to hypoxia uh and i was like oh my god and i like it ruined the rest of my day. I was like sitting and I was like, what do I do? And then also I'm getting deviated septum surgery to fix that. And I was like, oh, my God. My whole life is like changing as we know it. I'm like reaching out to friends to see if like they've had experience with one, the surgery, two with like a CP-pap machine blah blah blah and then uh on friday i finally have

an appointment with my sleep doctor who actually did this study or his sleep tech did the study um and so i literally just wanted to i like paid him 300 out of pocket out of insurance for just a consultation about the sleep study because uh i was so scared and um and he like walks in and he's like yeah so you wanted to like talk about the sleep study results and i was like yeah have you heard the news i'm dying like it's it's a it's bad doc and And then he's like, yeah, uh, this isn't bad. This isn't that bad at all. He's like, you have mild positional sleep apnea, which means that like, as long as you just don't sleep on your back, you're pretty much fine.

And then, uh, including with the CPAP machine, no CPAP machine. He's like, you, you could get a c-pad machine if you want there's also this other device that you could get that's like like way less than a c-pad machine and you just like put it on your nose if you want to try that and i and i was like what about the hypoxia it's like yeah i mean like maybe if like for the rest of your life you like don't do anything about this there could be some yeah if you don't use something or change yeah yeah yeah but like yeah and he was like this this kind of stuff like uh usually shows up with time and so like you're dealing with this like early enough that you shouldn't like see any like issue from it and i was like oh so everything's fine and he's like yeah like he was like clearly like he's like what

do you mean what could someone have said looking yeah what could someone have said and i'm like this is like why this is not medical advice by the way but this is why it was very important to me to have multiple opinions yeah um well not to mention one of the scariest things to do i'm sorry you had to go through that dude it was i mean i mean one of the scariest things to do is go to a professional when you know something is or could be wrong because you're scared of the bad news so you could have very easily just been like well that's fucking awful i'm just i'd give up i'm not gonna get a second opinion you know they're a doctor they're not gonna be wrong about this right well because it was that fucking wrong getting everything it's like i it's like i think that if i'm to put myself in the shoes of the doctor they were giving me general they were like sort of they glanced at the thing

and maybe they were giving me general heads up about sleep apnea in general maybe but i was like it was it was so weird because oh yeah i was like oh so they said i i like shouldn't drink ever and he's like i mean it might make the the sleep apnea worse for like a night but like it'll wear off by the time you get to sleep and it's like not a big deal well like alcohol just fucks with sinuses and sleep quality, right? Yeah, it's not a big deal if you're not drinking all the time. Is the hypoxia just from bad sleep? The hypoxia is from oxygen. Okay.

So it's like, so because with sleep apnea, like if I sleep on my back, I could have events where I like don't breathe for like 30 seconds do you sleep on your back maybe i sleep in every position um but i do sometimes sleep on my back and so i definitely slept on my back in the fucking sleep study because i had 9 000 wires connected to me and and uh i couldn't if i feels like they should have a new way yeah because i couldn't fucking turn because then i'd be like rapid i'd choke my i'd choke all of my body parts with wires that really does feel like an outdated method not

that there should be or like hey i mean they're still doing it whatever but really it it feels like an iron lung yeah that should be we don't we shouldn't use that anymore i was so yeah it should just be like a little foil hat or something right yeah like keep the aliens out um wards the sleep yeah but uh but anyway so i i don't want to discredit the doctor. I'm sure they're like... The first doctor. Yeah, I'm sure they're excellent at what they do, but like they're not a sleep doctor. So I'm sure they know the stuff that they need to know

for their like medical license, but then they're probably not focusing on sleep stuff every day because they're doing stuff with ears, they're doing stuff with noses, throats, the whole ENT spectrum. And... I mean, I guess maybe they're giving you a severe version that they expect you to kind of yeah i think that ultimately the problem is that i couldn't talk to

it i it's been like three weeks since my sleep study and i wasn't able to talk to a doctor until last week about it and so they probably assumed that i had had more information. Sure. You know what I mean? And more of an understanding of what was going on. So, I mean, I hope that doctor's good because I'm still getting my deviated septum fixed by them. So that's the area, though. That's. Yeah, that's there. They're in the pocket.

They're in the pocket. Yeah. They're back in pocket. Nose is that middle name. Yeah. Nose goes. Nose goes. That's what I'm going to say. the pocket yeah um they're back in pocket nose is their middle name literally yeah nose goes um nose goes that's what i'm gonna say uh when i get my surgery i'll take myself in the mirror and go nose goes to the doctor just be like that thing where they're like not this arm or whatever just

put this nose get rid of it whole thing uh you You know what's funny is I love when you're doing blood tests and stuff or you're doing surgery, they like do the checks with you. You are Jarvis, right? And you're getting surgery on your arm. And I'm like, on your left arm. Cool. And I'm like, you guys should know this right but really they're just doing the like the sanity check of uh making sure that they don't operate on the wrong person or on the wrong thing but being the sacrifice being a bit weird but if you don't know that if you don't know that you just walk

into the the operating room and then they're like uh what do you want like a freaking like nose job or something a little bit off the top. Yeah. Yeah. Take it all off. Yeah. You can't have surgery. Like a low taper fade. Yeah.

They just give you a really tight face. Yeah. Dude. Damn. I didn't know I had to go under for this, but I guess I understand. Damn. You gave me waves.

Yeah, dude. I got way, I got way wave check. Oh, in the wrong arm. Fuck. I got waves on my arm.

How? Um, I'm sorry, dude. That sucks. Well, it unnecessarily stressful sucks, but I'm glad that it was not. I'm over.

Yeah. So like Wednesday, Thursday was rough. All I had was Pokemon Go to make me feel better. And Friday, I was a little bit like whiplash. Even though it was better, I just like kind of took off and then I think I just like working weekends back to back um it's just podcast stuff but you didn't have normal time to rest so um now I'm feeling good I've got the surgery scheduled for uh like next month like end of September uh and it's pretty since i'm not doing anything to my nose

i'm just fixing the deviated septum i like recover pretty quick from it it's like so i shouldn't miss any podcasts or any videos or anything you know knock on wood but uh we can uh maybe we record it from the surgery oh yeah and we're like i'm just speaking to the surgeon yeah it's like you're okay can i have a go yeah maybe let me get in there just speaking to the surgeon yeah it's like you're like can i have a go yeah maybe let me get in there he's getting a fade right what's going on with that what are we doing yeah they wake you up being like what are we doing talking to the surgeon you see the guy with the monkey oh my god look at the guy with the monkey showing him tiktoks yeah did you go to the streamies

oh yeah the streamies? Oh, yeah. The streamies did happen. I had no idea that. It was literally they happened. And I was like, oh, really? Shit. Me too. And I was involved.

Yeah, they moved him up this year. And I was so confused about everything that I showed up and they were like, where's your plus one? And I was like, what? Like, because none of our friends went yeah i was like it was like me and ted nivison like who was a friend i know yeah so so it's like i saw ted and then me and ted were doing a bit but uh otherwise i like wasn't like last year we were at a table we had like friends we had stuff and people fly in none of that none of that happened this year so i literally went i did like my little cringy bit and then which was all

improvised which which was worse probably because uh i think i'm probably the only one of of the people involved with improv experience uh and so it was very dumb and and and i thought that i would want to go to the streamies but then i realized that the only reason that i would want to go is if i was going with friends and so when i realized that i was like what did i do any of this for and uh then i just left after my thing i just like uh went home um and i just like left the show early because i was like sitting i mean i was with ted so and shout out to ted but i was also just super tired shout outs to ted pal i glued my glasses you try breaking them i fix them all myself they hilariously split just fall off again they just shattered i cut my face

up but yeah i know people are like mad at the streamies i haven't seen any of the discourse was mad at there was joseph was early um i think h3 and hasan said some stuff about the streamies i know hasan had a podcast titled like airing out the streamies. And I was like, Oh, what did they, I don't know. I don't know what they did. And then, um, the, the H3 thing, I don't know specifically what H3 said about it,

but their table was next to mine. And we're obviously friends with some of the people who work, who work there. And, uh, they had the whole team out like just for them to not only lose their award but similar to last year it was like the award happened in like a commercial oh yeah i was so confused when that happened i legitimately just thought it was like a commercial for the award coming up yeah but they just they stuff you know

a dozen of them into yeah because they're i, because they're so busy doing these weird bits that there's no time to give you words. But I'm like, if people are coming to the show, I don't know what, again, I don't know what H3 said. But it's a bummer that you bring your whole team out and there's not even like a a moment for the award and and you lost the award you know what i mean not that different from watching it from home it's like very close it's like we got all dressed up we came out and it's like i guess it's like oh cool you know you can watch the show but i don't know weird old thing you know it's like all all due respect to the the parties you know it's a fun night and it's a it's a fun night out and it's i was just tired um but i and so and i don't know

what people's qualms were my issue was not related to the streamies it was related to the fact that i was alone um plus ted sorry ted i'm making it seem like ted isn't a person but we didn't like pre-plan. We just knew that... I ran into him there and we had to do a thing. He's fine. I mean, I don't hate the guy. We can say it.

This isn't being recorded, right? Yeah, true, true. Come on. Anyway, Ted will come on and we'll talk about it. But we became a meme. We do have some... We have some guest people that we're very excited about. Oh, yeah, true, true.

Oh, the thing worth noting is Illuminati on the thing is because there's a clip that went viral. I just got my doll. I just got my doll. I just got my doll.'s just Kai's face. Oh. Yeah. I don't get that at all. It's just Kai's face. Oh. Yeah, just Kai looking at us really weird.

Did Kai win anything? Say what? Did he win anything? Yeah, I think Amp won. Or A-M-P. I don't know if it's Amp. I remember when Felix won streamer. The last time he got up and said, like, Kai's not sure.

You know who I didn't expect to see there was XQC he probably just wanted in yeah I talked to him for a bit he was actually quite nice to me

he might have been lost but I got a I sent this to somebody last night I got a DM about this that

was the funniest thing it just unbelievable message that i received oh am i putting this person on blast oh i'm not gonna say their name if okay hopefully they don't get to this part hey there i don't even know their name hey there i'm a new subscriber of yours and i really enjoy your content your video restored My faith for the YouTube community. Haha Anyway, can you please explain the video provided below comments are trying to say Kai?

So now it was looking at you weird because some Illuminati business was going on. Do you mess with that Jarvis? Please don't disappoint me now. No you fuck with the Illuminati. I was like Because this bit was cringy, or because Kai was looking over his shoulder and being confused, because he was just behind the table. Is Kai considered to be

an Illuminati person? No, no. I think they're saying Kai's the Illuminati detector. And he doesn't approve. So it must be the Illuminati. You know what I would do if I saw a number of people that may have been involved in the greatest, most powerful organization in the world that from a small room and collective controls world politics,

I'd be like... Yeah. I'd look the same way as if my like i i paid too much for gas also if you everyone knows if you ask someone in the illuminati if they're in the illuminati they have to tell you because why if i'm yeah why if i'm in the illuminati would i be like yep you got me dude people conspiratorial people are like so uh the the brains are broken by like scooby-doo wait they have to get they put the eye on the dollar bill as a clue why are they giving you clues it's literally the thing uh that we talked about on fear and where it was just people in tiktok comments being conspiracy like

pills yeah just like sometimes stuff is like boring and you can still be like i mean interesting it's just i don't know man i think if i was in a secret society it was probably to get the you know the health benefits or whatever you get out of doing that or just like the rep the revenue the raw you know high cpm yeah i would probably i'd probably keep that grift going and I'd stop publishing hints I'd stop publishing stuff where like if you take the first letter of every tweet

and you move them around and add some and take some away have they ever explained why they give so many clues is it a part of the creed it's like they have to the way they can control society is by leaving little like like creed it's like they have to the way that they can control society is by leaving little like uh like fucking i hate that my brain doesn't work breadcrumbs little little clues breadcrumbs

little treats and clues we're in the same page man i i love i love my brain just don't tell you i mentioned like to my doctor about because you kind of when you get medical stuff inspires me to check yeah i mentioned to my doctor and um finally got a gp and uh i mentioned just like how many hours of sleep do you generally get and i'm like i generally don't sleep more than like five hours a night sometimes less they're like how many nights do you say i'm like a couple nights a week i don't sleep and like they're just like it's really cool that you're alive yeah this is like not a good way to live i'm like i don't know but like they're just like it's really cool that you're alive yeah this is like not a good way to live i'm like i don't know but sometimes i'll sleep you know like 20 hours a day is that even doubt right that's how that works yeah like no no not in the slightest

works at all i was like you don't fucking yeah anything why do you know quack um leave me alone leave me alone i'm gonna sleep yeah dude i'm gonna see for a i'm gonna spin a wheel shit one hour this sucks we gotta make lemonade better play some slay the spire um rats actually i'll tell you what pokemon go filling the void of i had to install play the spire i'm currently seeking someone that will take my switch away it is it just

it was good at a certain point in my life but now it's it's only a negative influence I uh Pokemon Go

basically literally the exact opposite of that game yeah where it's only physical movement yeah and going to

other places and you can't play it in your bed and okay well I I hate to tell you that there is a surprisingly deep pvp scene

I'm still learning about it but is there a level involvement because I'm it doesn't feel it doesn't there's no level involvement but it's about the Pokemon but the thing is I don't feel like it's super accessible uh at a high level but it is

at a low level because you just need certain pokemon with certain moves and to get certain moves you need tms and sometimes you need like legacy moves or like for example uh community day this weekend charizard if you evolve a charm alien to a charizard can learn this move blast burn and the only way to get blast burn other than on a community day is to use like this very very rare item called an elite tm so like there's so many things like that where it's like oh you needed this pokemon uh they got this move on this day oh my god yeah where it's like i don't like or you i think if you play the PVP, you get more of those elite teams.

So it's easier to do. So I still don't know how accessible it is. Should we do something for this whole thing this weekend? Yeah. I'm down to do something. I'm literally probably going to go to Santa Monica Pier and catch Charmanders for three hours. Get away from the old ball and chain.

You know what I mean? See if I can get away for a little bit. But give the dog a diazepam. And then I think BB's going to be there. I think we got the whole game. There's another spot in my car, so take the whole game. We have birthday parties this weekend oh literally we keep we keep talking about that on the bonus let's definitely watch the bad

podcast of the week this was shared by one of our editors austin i have not watched it and i will also go through the the exclusive north korean rule rules for basketball okay i'm in introduced byced by Mr. Un himself. I've already started sinking into my seat and it's not even the bonus. This is the kind of sad boys energy. I'm going to have my hood up for some sad boys. Okay, yeah.

Would that be cool? Yeah, I think so. You think I'm cool, man? All right, don't push it. Hold on, man. I would really mean a lot if you said it. Okay, I will not do that. That's it for sad boys today um we're gonna jump over to

patreon.com sad boys pod nope we're gonna jump over to don't cut this uh we're gonna jump over to patreon.com sad boys and uh we're gonna hang out we might have bb come down and hang out with us maybe dipper will be there uh i might eat an uncrustable i think i can confirm that yeah well will it happen on the yeah in the future it'll happen um thanks for listening gang it's always nice to do this been a been a hot minute since we did a solo bolo and it'll never happen again we're done next guest joe rogan or one of his little cronies that believes we're bringing on Jamie that would actually be fine Jamie's gonna pull that up Jamie V Jacob

who can pull it up faster who can pull it up be set up side by side like set us and then I we asked for like a vaccine yeah information

can I have like something that's about MMA but also like how the vaccine makes you go yeah quickly how did you find that it's got cited sources

all right um much love gang we end every episode of sad boys with a particular phrase we love you and we're sorry boom boom what was your what was your original Pokemon go name it was oh my god Jarvis discovered an old username Jarvis and Jordan both know an old name of mine it's not oh no he has a different one too. Oh.