Sad Boyz - Very Really Good Boyz (w/ Kurtis Conner)

Episode Date: September 17, 2020

We're joined by Kurtis Conner to discuss therapy and slippy the frog's giant 🐸   Follow Kurtis ► https://www.youtube.com/user/kurtisconner   Watch Us Live (Wednesday/Sunday/Friday) ► https://twitch.tv/sadboyzpod   Listen To Us! Spotify ▸ https://sadboyzpod.com/spotify Apple Podcasts ▸ https://sadboyzpod.com/itunes   Follow Us https://instagram.com/sadboyz https://twitter.com/sadboyz   Follow Jordan https://twitter.com/jordanadika https://instagram.com/jordanadika   Follow Jarvis https://twitter.com/jarvis https://instagram.com/jarvis   Outro music @prod.typhoon & @ysoblank

Bad news once again, unfortunately. I know it looks like Curtis is on screen right now, but I have on good authority that this is actually an evil twin who's holding Curtis hostage. Is that right? Well, I wouldn't say holding hostage. Okay, well, you may be biased. I would say keeping them against their will. Oh, right. But it's not against mine.

Oh, okay. So what do you think hostage is? Hostage, it's like those little cakes. Oh, no, those are hostess cakes. Yeah, but no, I can see that. You might be committing a crime is what we're saying. It also seems like, I hate to say it, I mean, you just seem like a dumber Curtis as well.

You don't know what stuff means. Unless he also seems like, I hate to say it, I mean, you just seem like a dumber Curtis as well. You don't know what stuff means. Unless he also doesn't, or maybe he does and you not understanding it as the evil version. Hey man, I'm so stupid, I don't know what you just said. I couldn't even understand. How about you get out of here and bring the real Curtis. You want the real Curtis? Sure. Yeah, if you wouldn't mind.

You want the nice Curtis? Please, please stand up. Nice Curtis, yeah, that would be good. Commit to the bit. Oh my gosh. That was so fast. Wow. Hey guys.

Are you okay? That was so incredibly fast and you're wearing the same clothes. Well, yeah, it's like part of the rules that my evil twin gave me. We have to wear the same outfits every day. No, that makes sense. You're following his rules. Yeah. And there's a long, long list of rules that I have to follow every day oh my god he let me do this podcast so that's

pretty cool seems like the two of you get along pretty well yeah it's like it's sort of this like uh like tongue-in-cheek like love hate type thing right right like we'd hate each other but like deep down it's like we're in love i hate to say this seems like maybe that's just your brother that's just like a sibling you have i don't, evil twin seems kind of unnecessary. Nah. You wear the same clothes, you hang out together, you seem to be in good spirits about one another. Yeah. Yeah, he was born like a year before I was.

Wow. Oh. And we have different dads, but we are evil twins. Evil twins, right. He might just be another man. I think what you are is maybe a half brother, though we are evil twins. Evil twins, right. He might just be another man. I think what you are is maybe a half-brother, though, is the thing. Maybe a half-brother, not even remotely a twin. Evil half-brother.

He said that he kidnapped you and you're a hostage, but in retrospect, I think he thought that you're a cake, which is also terrible. No, that does make him seem less evil and more just like a guy with a sweet tooth, you know? Yeah, we could be here all day and I could meet trying to explain everything. Yeah, sure. That does explain why he takes little nibbles out of me like my leg every morning.

Oh my gosh. Because he thinks like I'm a cake. Wow, you have to stop. Well, I'm concerned. Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis, and a little, yeah, concerned, like I said. And I'm Jordan, unfortunately. Today we are joined by a very special guest. The one, I was going to say the one, the only, but now I'm not even sure if that's true.

The second. He's a stand-up. He's a YouTube. He's an all-around very nice boy. Curtis Conner, everybody. Yay. Thanks for having me. Yay.

Yeah, no, thanks so much for coming on. Congrats on being a YouTube. You did it. I'm saying thanks to my evil twin for letting me. I wouldn't have to do this bit anymore. No, no what are you talking about what do you mean bit i don't understand curtis yeah it's it's a bit right yeah okay he's like looks off screen you're sweating bullets curtis is joining us today we're gonna we're gonna gab we're gonna we're gonna talk we're gonna chill this is the gabby show wait let me try and get that URL. Oh, that'd be so great if someone started a podcast called The Gabby Show and they had no idea.

And that's what we'll be talking about today. It's just like, and then we just shift into it. Welcome to The Gabby Show. We're going to have fun. We're going to gab. How do you feel about live shows, Curtis? You do stand up. You did the tour with the boys.

How do you like being live I've been that's like how I started doing uh comedy is like through stand-up so live live performance has always been really fun for me I miss it a lot yeah I miss like being in front of a crowd of people and stuff but maybe one day what was your relationship with it before everything shut down because obviously we saw you on tour at the LA show oh and I know you were you were doing because i know that old youtube videos of yours you would upload sets right like or uploaded these clips yeah yeah like while yeah a while back i would do that um yeah yeah a million millions of years ago yeah was it still in your like pre pre-tour was it still a part of your your ecosystem like five days a week video time

sundays are just for me out out on the old steps no the comedy stand on the old welcome to the los angeles steps we don't have a venue uh before it was different before like youtube and everything but even before youtube it was i had like YouTube and everything. But even before YouTube, it was I had like a little bit of a following on Vine. So I was able to like get like a couple people to come out and like actually see me and support shows. But yeah, it was like every week we would try to go to like open mics or book shows and just try to get out as much as possible. Yeah. YouTube, it slowed down quite a bit because I obviously my, you know, I was spending more time filming and editing and stuff. It was always a common thing. And then once like the YouTube audience like picked up,

then people wanted to see me live. So I was just like doing more shows and stuff. It was a lot. I mean, it was this whole thing is kind of nice because it like has forced me to like stay home for a while because I was fucking I was like every like few weeks I was gone on another tour. So it was a lot.

But you say maybe a portion of that you still miss. For sure. Yeah, it was hectic. But at the same time time it was like it was so it was so much fun and like going places I've never been before and just doing shows for people who like actually like care about me and like me because for so many years I was doing stand-up for people just other comics who also wanted to do stand-up yeah it's not like when you're up on the old when the old the comedy step you're just performing for the other guys on the steps who are like, they're not laughing. Why would they?

Your jokes aren't funny. Only theirs are. Yeah, they don't give a shit. Success in comedy is a zero sum game. If somebody's having success, then they're taking it away from you. Exactly. Yeah. I look back at that.

You're like rose colored glasses. Like, oh, those are the days. It was a ragtag time for me to do an open mic right it was the 1940s i think yeah it was a ragtag time that was crazy that was a day me used to come to every show i do it only cost a nickel it's just a set of steps i don't think you could charge for that i guess when video when video was invented you could really only have a few seconds at a time. So it was like a pre-Vine Vine.

Right. Yeah. Wow. I never thought of that. Holy shit. Damn. Whoa. No.

Vine was the blueprint for all moving media, I suppose. We need to take a moment to just let that one sink in. Well, yeah. When you think about it, if movies and stuff, video stayed the same, no one would be like, this is dumb. And that's what happened with Vine. And then it went away. This is too long. I'm losing attention after six to seven seconds.

Jordan, I would have started with Curtis, but I wanted to check in on you, buddy. How are you doing? How's your week? Little old me? Little old you. I'm okay. I don't want to. It's the same update I've been given a lot for day ones, OG listeners.

You know, things have been even above average turbulent for me for the last several months. And, you know, I don't want to exaggerate, I got just a little bit deported. And as a result, I, you know, that, just disgust, just my body. So let me paint the picture. Jordan, do you mind if I tell the bachelor story? Yeah, please. Okay, so I moved to LA a year ago now. Wow.

Oh, congrats, man. Hey, thanks, buddy. So Jordan and I used to work together at Patreon in San Francisco. Jordan moved to LA like two years ago or something when we were still at Patreon. And then we left around the same time. I left to do YouTube stuff full time and moved about a year ago. And LA is different from San Francisco in that it's very spread out. And I was having, it was hard for me to like hang out with my friends and get them all

in one place. So I was like, I know what I'll do. I will have a watch party for The Bachelor or The Bachelorette or whatever the fuck is airing right now. And so I was having everybody over. It was a grand old time. One day, Jordan gets a bad phone call and proceeds to tell-

Right in the middle of the old watch, I go into your bedroom, phone to ear. You have your apartment. I had the space to just kind of leave for what, like 20 minutes? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like- First of all, missed out on essential information

related to The Bachelorette. You look, man. That was a crazy episode too. I don't know shit about Peter anymore. That was the worst part of the whole car, was that you missed out on that. I also did, I don't know if I told you, but I got a text that was like, are you with Jordan now? And I was like, yes.

And he was like, good. Who is this? I'm glad he's with friends. And I was like, what's about to happen? Oh no. That text- You see a red laser dot through the wound. Yeah.

Yeah. It was a text from the president, I think. It was strange. Not the one you're thinking of. Yeah, the president of Nintendo, Reggie Fils-Aimé. Reggie Fils-Aimé fucking killed me. It was the last thing he did before he retired. He deported you.

He didn't have a 3DS. I get this text and I'm like, okay. And then you go into my room and now I'm like, my heart's beating really fast. Like, what's about to happen? Like, who died? Like, what's the situation? Turns out your citizenship is who died. But Jordan finds out that he like got denied for a visa for a dumb reason.

Essentially, the story gets there, but I essentially threw a clerical error that we didn't know at the time. Oh my God. My visa had been revoked. Typo. 11 months after they asked for more evidence. A typo of podcast. Funnily enough. Yeah, podcast.

It was a typo? Kind of. It was like a clear misunderstanding of what the business was. Because with a work visa, you effectively say, here's what I do. And then here's why my background and university applies to it. And they straight up just didn't know what it was, looked it up, kind of understood, and then were like, I don't know if a background in entertainment and editing really applies to making a podcast.

Or making a podcast. It applies to podcasting, but a podcast. Oh, of course. Sorry, I mean, I listen to the Daily on the Daily, but I don't know if anything, what the fuck is a podcast? I don't think that's fun. P.O. at Piece of Shitcast? Yeah, that's what this is everybody they were roasting me we're the pos boys what the hell dude i had to go through such a long process to get my work visa because i'm

canadian and i do shows in the states and i they were like this is the questionnaire that we had to fill out was like the gnarliest thing i've ever seen. It was like, have you ever, or plan to commit genocide? And I was like, no, obviously not. And even if I was right now, no. Yeah. That's the thing. If I'm planning on committing genocide, I'm not going to tell you guys. That's like, that's the, ah, I can't tell a lie.

Yeah. My hands are tied. Oh, genocide oh no he's a rhyming war criminal i love one half but i hate the other the war criminals do you think genuinely there's ever been one yes to that question there can't be it would be pretty funny if it has no impact right right you can't say yes they're like like wait no i wasn't it weird that there was a question on the on the application that said do you love gin and juice and it was like it's like no that said something completely different you said yes to that and now one of the one of the questions are what is a podcast because they don't because they may need to know we took one l we've crowdsourced it and we're officially willing to need to know we took one l we've crowdsourced it and we're officially willing to let you back into the country because we've learned what a

podcast is so yeah i find out that news and i react um maturely can i say what what happened please it's fun uh so jordan tells everybody there's a moment of calm there's a moment of calm jordan tells everybody very calmly we all like are sort of stricken with the news and then he punched a hole in my wall and left yeah which which i understand you know it's like it was i genuinely have never been that angry my whole life i get it just got very sad cried and then like 20 minutes later got my wall that's amazing man i called the task rabbit the next day wow the phone call was just like hey hey, you got to leave. It was my friend and person I co-founded the podcast company with, separate from Sad Boys.

She gave me a call because she got the text, the email, that kind of thing, because she was the CEO. I looked him through and she was like, yeah, I don't share. I don't know what that means. I was like, that's crazy. It'll be fine. Bleep. It'll be fine.

You go Super Saiyan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is an appropriate response i think so yeah sort of weird it's weird to check and be like you know it's good it's it's a it's a crazy old week because the standard is angry and sad because i got it back they like we reapplied and they were like oh no actually you should have this oh my god i got the visa and then trump banned all h1b oh sorry. Oh, sorry. Funny story. We actually can't read. Here's your visa though.

Bad news. We're not currently allowing H-1B people into the country anymore. This very important visa. We missed on your blood results that you are in fact dying. We do have the cure. We lost it. Well, no, we have the cure, but the president is angry and he doesn't want to let anybody use the cure right now he's holding the cure he's holding the cure and you can't he's playing

keep away actually with the cure he's very slippery oh yeah he is the slipperiest president to date that's that's true we are keeping the greasiest president we do think we may live to see a slippier president but for now for now he's the one when uh when slippy the frog from starfox is the president which he will be then we'll have the slippy natural coward slippy yeah i don't think he has the fortitude he's maybe a vice at best i just i learned some random facts about slippy recently i don't know why this is i didn't expect this to come on hold on well one is that uh he's got a huge car yeah that's the thing how'd you know was it just did he just have bde one fact that will blow your mind yeah well first of all that reminds me of these there's these uh like

screen rant type articles like listicles that'll be like 24 facts about waluigi that you like never knew yeah we read one the other day and it was like waluigi once wrote a poem and it's like all right the inspiration for the voice actor of waluigi was resentment or something but uh sloopy i found out was other than his giant frog dick he was uh he was oh that was that was a surprise you were you would have expected a frog one i don't know what would be worse i do think that like if i'm faced with slippy in real life and he like drops trowel i'm not too concerned about the anatomy of it all yeah if it does turn out to be a human dick i might get like a quick

second look but yeah it's a humanoid frog the last thing i'm wondering is what is a wiener not the last thing it's not the last thing i'm wondering i'm actually truly curious now the truth is like way less interesting he was originally going to be considered for the original uh smash brothers on Nintendo 64, but the dick was too big and it's just like they just didn't have the technology to model it. There weren't enough polygons. They tried to render it and it smoked out every single entity. They were like, our options are Mario and the gang or just so they had to build that's why they built

the game cube to handle slippy's dick right because his dick is famously his dick is famously a cube yeah there's master hand that's that's the deleted final boss of uh a huge slippy dick oh no but yeah apparently like uh sakurai he wanted That's the deleted final boss of Smash Brothers. A huge Slippy dick. Oh, no. But yeah, apparently Sakurai, he wanted Slippy and Falco and what's his face to be? Fox? No, no, no.

There's another dude. The other guy. Is it like Peppy? Peppy, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, Peepy? Poopy? Yeah, they wanted them to be different outfits. Poopy. Poopity Scoop, actually. be different like outfits spoopy poopity scoop actually um he he wanted them to be different

like outfits or different colors of the same character but he said that it didn't make sense for slippy to be a really fast character like as fast as fox and falco because he's way down because he's got he's way down by that third leg of his third prod leg yeah and so or of course he can run extremely fast wait right yeah frogs are pretty fast that's what i thought but it's definitely the dick thing hey guys what uh what sort of condoms does slippy use ribbit wait are we the first twitch stream to have minus views? This is the full dynamic range of the podcast. It's like Slippy's dick one moment and like I had a bad week in therapy the next. And those are connected with each other.

They are, yeah. It's true. It's mostly because of my visions of Slippy. I wake up in a cold sweat thinking of Slippy's slippery dick. Yeah. Yeah, but you know that outside of that like humming rage i'm actually pretty comfy so uh curtis nice what curtis we usually we ask how was your week but mine's just gonna be what's your what's your fucking deal man well just in general

yeah man what's your fucking deal what's wrong with you like where do you get off? How did you get in here? My deal is 21. Blackjack, I win. Dealer, no deal. He took the deal. That's wild how in Blackjack you can choose the number. Dealer's choice, baby.

Hit me with 21, please. Hit me with the exact number I need. Of course, of course, your majesty. Now, the numbers do only go up to 10, but it seems that this is a 21. This is a 21 car? Wow. It's amazing. Whenever they play roulette, I go, can you just not spin it this time?

Can you not spin the thing and just put it where I want it? Yeah, I would just like to put it down here and have that be the, just give me the money is what I'm asking. I'd like to win, please. Yeah, I'll take that part. But my week's been pretty good. get my car back tomorrow okay it was in the shop because i got in an accident oh oh yeah like everything okay i'm dead oh man yeah well the spanking i got for my evil my evil i know for dying the punishment for dying i don't know it seems like he's he's quite

considerate because one of the rules is don't get in a car crash i don't think that's that bad yeah i guess yeah yeah okay that's his one is the one nice thing is that he doesn't want me in the car crash he'd rather he'd rather be him i yeah it's like a single tear rolls down your eye it's like very touching. Wait a minute. I actually have to go. I have to chase him to the airport. You see a finger off screen. Why?

But no, my week's been good. Been editing. Went golfing a few times. That's it. Yeah, it's been great. I didn't know you played the Kings game. I do. I play on the steps.

Oh, you play street golf yeah it's like nba streets with so many more deaths pga streets oh man i is that the is that the golf game with fatalities where you just like yeah you like straight up nine wood snap tiger woods with fatalities where you just like yeah you like straight up wood snap tiger woods's neck or whatever you just shove a putter up a guy's asshole and you birdie yeah but my week's been uh in all in all it's been good that's great no it's good what defines good week for you independent of like working and that kind of stuff do you just

need like nice taste in the air did my hobby like golfing is a great example yeah i think if if i get a video out in a week it's like i'm having the best week of my life but if i don't get a video up it's like if i feel that i've done a good amount of work and then um i'm able to like you know like hang out with my girlfriend and like go golfing and stuff and just like have a day or two days to myself which i'm trying to do more often because when i first started on doing YouTube full time, it was just like YouTube, YouTube, YouTube, YouTube for like a year. Yeah. And it was a lot. So I think I'm like, slowly I'm being like, if I'm like happy with the work that I did on a week, then any given week that I'm, then I'm, I'm good. I'm happy. Yeah. That's definitely a journey too, to get there.

Cause I, I feel like I'm getting, that's like where I am now, but it definitely took, it took a minute to just like appreciate, you know what? Like we did, we did good work this week, everybody. We can like pack it up. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's just, yeah, it's really easy to get caught in the whole, like, Oh, I didn't see all these other people that I are my friends and they're uploading videos and I didn't upload a video. So what the fuck am I doing? Yeah. What are you doing? Am I valuable as a human? human yeah yeah damn i thought i was this whole time but then i didn't turn it around this week and i guess i'm bad yeah i guess i'm a little piss baby sorry fuck that's your tweet saying that the video is not coming out anyone else's breaks or anything

like that where it's just like well they posted this week they did just take off two months but i guess i'm the bad one yeah exactly yeah how was your week okay a little rough to be honest but i think it's like the it's kind of like the climax of uh slippy sorry i uh that was his final smash oh no i'm ah why does it work so well? The final smash. He final smashed me. God damn it. Ultimate. It's called a smash ball. I'm not having fun right now.

There's so much to work with. No, but I think I kind of let my kind of self-care shit fall out of whack. And then I was starting to feel bad and I didn't know why. And I was working a lot and I wasn't taking care of myself. And I was like, what gives? Why do I feel bad? I've only not been exercising or eating well and I've only been working to the exclusion of everything else.

Like what gives? And- Why isn't my car moving? I only didn't fill it with gas and took the engine out. I, and so I had therapy, like I have ADHD and like one of the things with ADHD for me in particular is this like sometimes feeling rejected by something, even if it's as simple as like somebody correcting you on like a spelling mistake or something can, can like hit you way harder than it should.

Yeah. Maybe the visa people had ADHD. Yo. That was the problem. They were like, pause, guest. Hold on. Hit pause. I'm going to hit pause on your fucking citizenship

yeah which made me feel really rejected yeah yeah um but that's just because of your adhd jordan for no other reason no i don't want this so i had a like a experience in the morning that made me feel like feel like my mood was like hijacked and i was like oh fuck like i was trying to have a good day and now i'm sad you You know, it's like I'm mad about this. And then I was like kind of in the dumps and I had therapy that day, which was ultimately good. But I was sitting there in bed,

like how am I going to like do anything the rest of today, you know? And had therapy, cried a little bit, talked about how like I felt like my, you know, life and career was over and I'm a big fat phony and failure and a piss boy frankly and um and my therapy this was like yes but um you are a piss boy yeah yeah the pissiest boy i've

ever seen i don't know i'm not a great therapist you did study it though like you are you are licensed i gave it a swing which in retrospect actually might be why i wasn't appropriate for podcasting as a visa you gave it a you gave it a swing from the steps from the uh pga street steps i did get a text from my therapist last night which was the first time this has ever happened like after therapy like a wellness check like hey how are you doing but i you know it was great it was it was very heartwarming but yeah it was more like i was in therapy with like sort of like a few single tears like running down my face going, I know I'm going to, you know, where it's like, I know

when I sleep on this, tomorrow is going to be totally fine and normal. And it's going to be like, none of this happened. That's kind of how I felt the next day. But just like now I have work to do. Like I need to make sure I'm resting and taking care of myself and getting that stuff back back in order. Yeah. Because everything feels better too when i'm doing that stuff and it's so nonsense that i'm like no i have to keep working and it's like no but jarvis when you like don't drink water you feel bad it's like i but that takes time yeah i don't know i'm kind of in the

zone right now yeah i don't know if you've seen this script, but it's a fucking banger, dude. And it's like, you're going to die. You're going to die of dehydration. And you're just there nodding along going, I could die. No, it's true. But I'm in the zone. The video can't. How long have you been doing therapy for, if you don't mind me asking?

No, no. So I think about three years now. And it's a thing where I don't really have many big problems. And that was a thing for me. I didn't want to start therapy because I was like, well, there's nothing that wrong with me. But seeing the value in an outlet of just having that emotional conversation or getting something off my chest or talking it through with someone who's going to validate my experience ends up being such a valuable just like yeah outlet to have that i'm now like very supportive of if you have the means or if you have you know in some countries like somebody dm'd me that like they wanted to try therapy or something and i was like oh well maybe

health insurance yada yada yada you could do this that and the other thing and they're like well i'm in australia so i think we get like eight free sessions and i was like what like wow wow must be nice i don't know if that's the case in canada i feel like you need to pay still because i yeah i've wanted to like try therapy for a bit i just never tried i went to therapy like i had like three sessions once like a few years a few years ago and it was like i don't know it was nice to like talk about stuff that was going on because it was at like a really weird time in my life yeah yeah i just like never did you pause it for any specific reason or just uh i i had from some i think it was from like my mom's health insurance i had like three sessions okay and i was in college at the time i didn't have any money to

like spend on any more sessions so i just like okay well i guess i better be okay now because i'm not gonna go back i guess i'm fixed forever one thing that i don't love about like the way that therapy is like at least the old way of thinking about therapy is like something's wrong with me and i need to go fix it and when it's fixed right like don't go to therapy anymore because i'm in therapy to just continue improving myself you know what i mean like oh okay like situations affect me in this way i don't like, like, let's learn some coping strategies with that. And then let me learn how to cope with this, that, and the other thing. Or, or one of the things that I didn't even know starting therapy that would be super duper valuable is having someone who's got enough continuity on your life to be like, Hey, I have observed a change in you

about how you deal with situations very similar it's like you used to be really upset about this thing and now you seem to be have a handle on it and i'm like whoa character development oh that's cool and that's cool yeah yeah yeah character development yeah yeah just like in the script i was right i know let me get back it's really good guys i am dying i am dying what does water water taste like? I can't. I can't. It's like that SpongeBob. I don't need it.

I don't need it. But yeah, so I recommend it for anyone just to try. It is a thing that's like dating, though, because you cannot have a good match with a therapist, and it can kind of turn you off of the whole deal, you know? Right. And your instinct is almost certainly right. Yeah. of the whole deal you know right and your instinct is almost certainly right yeah you can adapt to somebody's like maybe some of their mannerisms or find a way around a communication style but if the things that they're saying don't resonate with you or you feel worse when you leave always right

yeah you can probably maybe change yeah one cool thing i would say for anyone who's interested is that in the states while it is like dating and that's already exhausting, like when I was at Patreon, I was like trying not to be paying a lot of money for therapy. So I was seeing a PhD student who was like getting their certification to do it on their own. And it was nice because basically there was like an advisor reviewing my file as well. So it was kind of like, great, two people are like checking me out oh no yeah yeah exactly but then when that ended she just she became a school um psychologist but finding another therapist it took me a good six months just to like wow but only because it's one of those things where it's like well i'm fine i don't really need it kind of like oh i should probably fix that doorknob is kind of weird and then it's like two years pass and then right it's like yeah there should be like a tinder for uh million dollar business idea but yeah i guess one thing

to know is that in the states at least you can tend to call up like cold call therapists and they will talk to you for a bit while you're like trying to decide if you guys would be a good fit and i think that and you're not charged for that time so because they're trying to get a client and also see if like they could be of use to you so i would say use those opportunities when you're like okay do i want to talk to this person or let me let me call a few people and see who calls me back and like sort of play the field a little bit right so what happens if you go see a therapist and they show you a bunch of rorschach photos and all you say is slippy's penis.

This is hypothetical? This is totally hypothetical. This is not happening to me. Very specific one that you're giving out. Okay. Yeah, like when you see Dr. Jones on Mississauga Street and then like Office 306. Sure, yeah.

And you just got back from tour. You're in the US. All hypothetical. You get back from tour and then your name is Curtis and then you say, and then you say like, oh, I just keep seeing slippy's big slippery wiener then sorry my name was what no this is hypothetical this is like but you did say in it what was my name in the your

name is curtis your name is curtis yes just but it's like in the scenario it just happens to be curtis oh yeah oh did i say that yeah i'm almost certain you did because you said it like very clearly and this is about you i'm almost certain oh i think that said it like very clearly and this is about you. I'm almost certain. Oh, I think that may have been a Freudian Slippy. Yeah. And scene. All right. See you guys. But Evil Twin comes back.

He's not funny. He's like not funny. He's very serious. I just want to talk about golf. Hey, I heard you guys laughing about Slippy's penis. I don't think that's a very funny thing. Are you doing that funny crying? What's that called?

I tried it very briefly, but have you guys ever gone for one of those like better help? Like a remote short-term therapy solution? I have not. I've never tried that. I tried to do one of the chat ones one time, but I'm worried that're like a scam always yeah oh yeah yeah shane dawson asked me to twerk was that normal yeah oh sorry but no i tried one of the text things but then i'm also like there was like a controversy controversy about them and uh oh yeah oh really but i think they're they're fine i did have access to like my regular, so I never really got into it.

But my therapist is remote, so I do have experience. I used to go into an office, but then my therapist moved, and I knew I was moving to LA. So I was like, great, let's just do remote because I want to move anyway. That way I don't have to find a new therapist when i moved to la and it turned out to i had a lot of foresight because now you know like my therapy wasn't disrupted by covid because i was already doing it remotely you predicted the future i might have codice are you interested in doing it again like actively all right when things maybe iron out a little bit and i don't have to be remote or i do have to be remote maybe it's finally time to take another swing at it or it doesn't it's not a burden i don't think i'm in any like big rush i definitely want to try it and see if it would help me because there are

some days where i'm like really feeling it just like pressure and stuff and like and like goals that i set for myself that i don't like reach and then it's like i don't know it's just so i i think i i'd be down to give it a try yeah i'm in like i'm in like i need to go to therapy now right right but even just like basic strategies for dealing with situations that come up all the time it's like oh you went to school and you have like a framework for thinking about this fantastic like give me the right yeah yeah like a good manager doesn't need to give you context on why you should do something it might sometimes be nice to have it but it's like man i feel lost at work i've worked on 15 different

things this week and i never felt impactful or satisfied with any of it yo uh cassandra what the hell should i do oh that's just a solution great because you know your stuff and i don't need to double check it i like trust what you believe it's that same it's handing over one of the more stressful parts of your life like i'm going to go to a coffee shop to get a coffee because no matter how much i make it at home it's pretty much always going to be better so i don't understand why it's different i just don't i think it's because i like to have someone else make it for me i think that's what it is yeah when you get like when you go out it's like same as hearing your favorite song on like the radio you know it's so it's more interesting like you hear it you can hear it at home all day i've never heard that those things

compared and they are the same i like to bring a coffee with me to trade. What? Why? I like to bring a coffee with me to give to the barista. Oh, right. Bartering system. I just want to say thanks. This is like, it's huge that you did this for me. I'm not that good. I'm just practicing.

Maybe you could give it a taste test and let me know how I could improve. They've had 40. People keep giving them to it. Oh, my God. Nice Camp Rock shirt, by the way. I should have worn my high school musical jersey. Thank you. This movie was actually filmed maybe like two hours away from my house.

Damn. Well, maybe three hours. It's pretty close to my house. Ground zero. The set was your home. Yeah. It was like a couple minutes from my bedroom. So I found this shirt at a thrift store.

It says crew on the back so like whoever someone is working on the crew of camp rock was sweating in this shirt in the muskoka hot sun yeah somebody who worked on that is really cold right now that's my shirt for years yeah freezing cold they're still working crew for camp rock no one has the heart to tell them it's wrapped many years ago they can't leave set because they're still looking for it you can go home you know that i need my shirt i need my shirt he's holding a boom bike he's just like not willing to give it yeah you go to the camp rock and there's a frozen man there

he's fully preserved it's like his mouth is in this shape where's my t-shirt oh my god you can sometimes you can still hear him say that yeah with with a low hum of uh dimmy lovato and the jonas brothers in the background i it's so funny watching those movies it's think Drew made a video about old Disney movies, but there's so many of them that really aren't very cool at all. They don't hold up at all. Oh, no.

When you're a kid, it's like, well, actually, this is different because High School Musical 2 is my favorite. Oh, I'm working on a video about High School Musical 2. We are. We are four for four people saying that. My YouTube origin story is i uh when i was 14 i had a viral video of me dancing to work this out from high school musical too let's go i remember i yeah i

used to know that dance too yeah i forgot it continue you're preaching to the choir yeah i was saying like that i mean high school musical too is like the exception because that movie is still very cool every time i watch it but it's the only other ones i watched it on stream this weekend because i'm working on the. You're working it out. I was working it out, frankly. And you can bet on it. There are so many iconic things about High School Musical 2.

Yeah. Everything I think is iconic. Because it's really just like the first movie was like a good try. You know, it paved the way. High School Musical 2 somehow hit the perfect amount of polish. Yeah. It had everything you needed. It had everything you needed.

You had Zac Efron, the bluest eyes you could ever like I don't know they color graded that movie in a weird way where his eyes were like extra blue what's the high concept of two like what what differs from one I know one kind of oh well uh I mean Curtis do you want to take it away okay so one we all know it it's you know the the inner you know the struggle of like it's this is what I want to do this is what this is what my father has in mind for me this is what like what it is yeah yeah basketball dad and then singing girlfriend the the oldest story in the book he was a basketball dad and then second one gets him out of the school okay i know it's high school musical but it's but now they're in the country club yeah it's summer summer summer summer now they're now they're in the the country club and uh there's all this

pressure from you know uh troy he's getting all the success you know sharpay is you know kind of getting her rich grooming him kind of yeah it's like a weird yeah it's a weird it's a weird power play sharpay sharpay is doing where she's like, come meet these college recruiters. Come hang out with my weird dad and play golf with us. Golf again on these steps. I think that's why I play golf now to emulate Bet On It. Yo. I want that so bad.

Can we talk about the Bet On It reflection? The highest art in cinema is when Zac Efron- No good at all. The highest art in cinema is when Zac Efron said, when you see yourself and don't recognize your face because your face is poorly transposed onto a pond. Yeah. Okay, that's the one thing where it's like, okay, that does it. Disney, you have so much money. You have the most money.

And you can't even do a good scene and put in reflection. And I feel like I could have done it better. Yeah, no, I i agree i might try i do think that there's a lot of little details in high school musical too that i have now picked up watching it over and over again well okay well there's obviously the miley cyrus cameo famously in uh all for one which i also know the choreography too wow because i i learned it in high school in order to teach. The dance along. Yes. Oh, I actually have in the other room, I have the, I don't know, what was it called?

It was called like some sort of special edition of the movie that has all the dance alongs on it. I found it at a thrift store for a dollar in LA. And I was like, it was in its original wrapping. I felt like I was finding a diamond in the wrap. This one in particular is, it sounds like the second movie is The summer that we wanted yeah we finally got it yeah are you open currently to genius.com slash all for one i do you know i'm not really a computer guy i wouldn't know but it's certainly yeah i think no i think i think we described it in such a way that you just you kind of understood the whole plot and one of the and you happen to reference one of the lines in the movie oh yeah

i don't know how long we get to stream today but each day we'll be together you know and now until forever okay so wow can i just say can i you have no idea you have no you are close to the lyrics you are this is incredible i am losing my mind this is nuts wow high school musical three i feel like the only thing it does for me is if i watch the end of it it it makes me cry. Because the Once a Wildcat, Always a Wildcat shit with the reprise of the High School Musical song. Ugh. That's huge.

You're just thinking about it. We're graduating and we're, you know, what's next? Yeah, exactly. And you know what's next. It's that Vanessa Hudgens is going to deny that COVID should be a problem in July and Zac Efron's gonna become big buff man and star in a show where he goes to a lot of countries where people of color live but he only interacts with white people unfortunately this is a hell of a call you made considering that movie came out what 13 years ago I know we're like whack Efron I know but I still I still stand frankly I just can't I can't you stand, you can never unstand.

I think that's the rules. Yeah, I think that's it. No one's ever said I'm unstanding. No one's ever said that. It's actually in the terms of service and the extended version of Stand by Eminem featuring Dido. Yeah, a lot of litigation around that track. There's actually a lot of law in there. Yeah, there is, yeah.

The radio edit doesn't include the two and a half hours in the center that's mostly about Bill and Paul's business. Delivered by Paul Rosenberg, Eminem's lawyer or whatever. It's all legal jargon. Okay, crazy idea. All right, hit me. Let's take it to the beach. Take it here together, I mean.

Let's celebrate today because there'll never be another. Sorry? Wait, what's this song about? Celebrate today because there'll never be another. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They all die at the end it's like a jim jones situation what is three about it's a ritual suicide at the pool oh no and then the third movie takes place in heaven whoa it's like lost all over again

yeah they're on the island the whole time the island the whole time fuck the smoke monster is uh sharp a there's a really weird line in high school musical too that's one of my favorite quotes where sprinklers turn on and troy and gabrielle are playing around on the golf oh yeah it's like you were gonna get so wet it's like okay what a weird there's so many weird adr lines like you didn't have to put that line into the movie they didn't say it out loud. Does he say you're gonna, or I thought it was, we're gonna, I think it's,

you were gonna, but maybe it's, we are gonna, we've got to get to the bottom of this. We're would make, hold on. Let's I'm going to put, can I pull up the script?

Yeah. Okay. High school musical to ritual death scene is what I'm saying. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah. It all complete,

right? It's a, what team wildcats, what team wildcats. And then on the third one, everybody drinks at the same time? Wildcats, what team? Wildcats. And then on the third one, everybody drinks at the same time. Wildcats, get your dead in the game. Are you sure it's not Humuhumu? Oh, Humuhumu, Nukanuku, Apuaa.

We can't Makihikimalihilahu. We don't need to talk about it because it's kind of appropriative as a song. And it wasn't even just in the extended version. Oh, no. I'm just reading this. I'm watching the scene right now. Oh yeah. They're about to kiss.

Yeah. That's hot. Sprinklers are on. Sprinklers are on. Now they're dancing a little bit. Okay. They're dancing. Okay.

This is good. Oh wait. This is good. Jarvis, you're right. Oh, they say you are going to get so wet. That was like, the reason I remember that so well is because I did go to a high school

musical to watch Party in 2007. Good. And I remember- Rumor was real. As a 14-year-old having a very, very bad sense of humor. And that was a thing where we were just like- Oh, yeah. That's hilarious.

Yeah. And I do know what that means um my butt's gonna get all sweaty soggy sex wise soggy butt wow that's crazy i didn't know this he said that that changes everything i know it changes the whole lore to be honest you're crying wait there's so many good moments in this movie that i want to keep talking oh yeah the the the outfit swap between yo wait you literally that was literally what i was about to talk about i was about to the outfit swap between chad and ryan during i don't dance that is never addressed friend of the show 24 frames of nick made a video about the outfit swap and talking about the the theory of it and it's a it's a good But yeah, I don't know what to say.

I think I read that the director or the writer originally wanted them to have a gay relationship. Well, Ryan was originally gay and it was just like Disney. There's a few moments that are coded homophobia, I feel, in that movie. Because Ryan's is like this very, he's like golf dad. He's like the rich dude, rich douchebag, sweater vest kind of guy. And Ryan's like wearing his hat to the side and the dad's like, straighten that hat. It's like, hey, it's like, hey dad, like, let me, let me view myself.

Let me, let me express. That was Disney's way of saying, we don't like it. It's a metaphor. It was a metaphor. That was their way to say where they could get. Straighten that hat. And stop having sex to say it when they couldn't get it. Strain that hat. And stop having sex with men. Stop sticking your penis in butt.

I don't like that part. Quit it. Also, have you seen me, Ryan and Sharpay, like 10 years later singing, what was it? Bop to the Top? It was like a rearrangement. Yeah, I think I did see that video. I forget what song it was though. Yeah, it's What I've Been Looking For.

Okay. Man, so many bangers. good dude when that when that movie came out i was well actually before i knew bet on it because my sister my sister downloaded an illegal version of it from limewire like three months before it leaked so early and i i was on fucking pirate bay downloading that shit so she had that version she had the mandarin version of the song that we were listening to what i know she like memorized all the lyrics to the mandarin version of bet on it that's actually the sickest shit in the world holy fuck yeah i mean it's good for job interviews yeah i i can speak mandarin only uh i can only do an

inspirational song about my change of character yeah i know a lot of words in a very specific context in a very specific order but yeah when i saw that movie i was out i was like on vacation with my friend in like this kind of like trailer park complex that was like kind of similar to the country club so like it kind of felt like i was i was there experiencing the movie myself it was just a magical time it was a great time it's like vr yeah the original vr i going outside to a place the reason the reason that i did learn all these high school musical dances was because i had like me and some friends in high school we're gonna like record them and like as a group and so i learned all these dances to teach them to people we had we met and we had practices wow it was like filming logistics that's the

reason that we never got it done and then everybody just kind of forgot about it but it was just a cast and crew problem you know yeah they didn't have any he didn't have any shirts yeah that was the problem it was actually just the boom operator that was in trouble we called him but he was frozen to death up in the northern area the phone like i'm not sure how the timeline exactly works out because camp rock hadn't come out yet at this point he was frozen it checks out we're shooting for a very long time there's a long shoot a shivering sound guy is the worst too he's just like yeah it's true like the world is pretty dark right now and so i needed to check out and the the way that i checked out was i i watched uh 1999 disney channel original movie smart house wow which is an

absolute way ahead of its time oh my god there's a lot in i literally currently have a 5 000 word script that i need to cut down on this movie there is so much to say i genuinely i've seen three dcoms in my entire life the the other two are xenon and under wraps the very first one i gotta tell you would struggle to name a single event from both of those two because smart house has eaten up most of the real estate in my long-term memory i don't remember math i don't remember the faces of my family but smart house it's all smart can i give you a few fun facts about smart house please yeah one fun fact is that it was it was supposed to be in super smash but the house that had a giant dick. Giant dick. Too hard to render. Giant frog dick. They could render an entire house for the game. So it was directed by LeVar Burton.

No way. Yeah. And so I found a tweet recently, or it was like a year ago, but still, but it's the 20th anniversary roughly of Smart House. And there's a few songs that only exist in the Smart House universe, and they're absolute bangers. I know they only exist in the Smart House universe, and they're absolute bangers.

I know they only exist in the Smart House universe because they're like one minute long when you go find the song. One of them is, jump, jump, the house is jumping. That's all the song is. And LeVar Burton, somebody was like 20th anniversary of Smart House. And then LeVar Burton's tweeting like, jump, jump, the house is jumping. And there's choreography. There's a British boy band named Five, spelled the number five,ve oh that is a real band i learned there's oh my god there's just so many great things in that movie i mean i didn't know katie seagal like from anything other

than being the voice of lila in futurama so lila from futurama is the smart house uh she's also in like married with children and sons of anarchy and stuff, but I know her as Leela from Futurama. She's Leela. Yeah. She's known as that by her husband and close family. And it also stars that guy, Ryan Merriman, who was in The Luck of the Irish,

another Disney Channel original classic. May he rest in peace. Wow. Oh, wow. Brie Larson auditioned for the role of Angie and just had to take the L. Is that true? Yeah,ie damn only six pieces of trivia on the smart house imdb that seems whack i uh should be a lot more you should contribute i i now have a lot of i've got some ideas well what i realize is that like i have so many comments i don't know what

the format is because i can't make a 50 minute video about smartass but yeah i've got to find like i don't know maybe i'll make an extended version on like a second channel or something dude when i script videos for especially for movies when i make videos with movies i have to essentially like cut it in half i have to cut out so much stuff because if i left the whole thing at the video would be longer than the movie because there's so many things you want to say yeah and then you get like comments being like people who like my most recent one i put out it was like people who watch my video then they go watch the movie yeah and then they come back to the video they're like why did you not talk about this one part it's like i yeah i had to i know i'm sorry

i couldn't but one boy i know the worst is like that experience but you actually in the like edit cut out a joke or a reference and it's like i had actually recorded this joke it's in there like and then i was just like it doesn't serve like it doesn't serve whatever i'm trying to do so i gotta leave it on the cutting room floor you gotta put it on the only fans brother all right well yeah that's what i'm gonna do i do want to also want to throw out like, well, I'm sure there's more interesting facts about Smart House. The SEO is a bit limited because they keep showing me Smart Houses. But the breakdown on, I was like, trivia tropes. Yeah, people are always filling up trivia tropes.

There are two available facts. One of them is just about the fact that they watch a cartoon that was real. And the other one was the fact that one of them owns an iMac. Yeah, there's an iMac in the movie. There's also war propaganda in the movie. It like, Smart House turns into an episode of Black Mirror in the third act. And we don't talk enough about this. It like turns into a straight up horror film.

Where like- It wants to kill them. That is the end. The Smart House plans a party for the kids. The big bully that's been bullying Ben through the whole movie comes over. And the Smart House ridicules him and then strikes him with lightning like it's like he's straight up like or maybe he dodges it but it's like a whole thing the movie's terrifying that's crazy a lot of people when i posted about it on my story dming me that like this movie scarred me before i re-watched it and i was like why and then i was like oh the moment where like

she bolts the fucking house closed and like becomes an airbender and like causes like a fucking hurricane inside of the house yeah no that's gonna scar some people and then at the end of the movie spoiler alert they keep her around she's still like making food and everything's chill i was like what about when you tried to kill us? Like, what was that about? Yeah. Move. No, she changed. Move from the smart house. Yeah. Move away or turn it off, right? Because that was just like a big button. What if the show Smart Guy was the same thing?

Like, he just tried to kill everybody at the end. And it was like, he's a smart guy. Yeah. Yeah, when you mentioned the lightning hitting someone, I always found it fascinating in, kids movies, like family movies. Like for example, someone would get like in an explosion and as long as they're like fine and walk away from it, they just have like their hair is up.

Yeah. They're in blackface. Yeah, they're in blackface. But like it's so weird because they can show that. Like the act of it is totally fine to kids. It's just like as long as you don't see the actual results of it. Home Alone, the first one has a lot of like, oh man, that would kill you if you're in real life.

Like he throws rocks at the heads and et cetera, which is kind of irresponsible when you think about it. Because that's a thing that a kid can do. A kid has rocks, right? Whereas the second movie goes pretty buck wild with like the physicality of that universe. At one point, Marv gets like shocked and you see his actual skeleton. Which is actually probably the funniest scene in anyity of that universe. At one point, Marv gets like shocked and you see his actual skeleton.

Which is actually probably the funniest scene in any movie of all time. Oh, and there's also, is it the first one or the second one where does he take like a nail board to the crotch or something? Oh no, a nail gun shoots him in the crotch. Oh yeah.

I think that was the second one. Hilarious. Yeah, those are easy things to do. You could put toy cars at the bottom of the stairs. You could put broken glass by the front door.'s all relatively easy it would be pretty great if the next home alone movie is just rock focused i he's just throwing rocks beating them i i was gonna say we've talked about this before mostly in reference to like the kissing booth or something but yeah the it's so weird to me that we have weird rules about what we'll subject kids to

but like violence is generally like pretty okay and it's like yeah it just like or but all these harmful ideas like depictions of very like fucked up violence or even very bad relationships that you shouldn't be teaching kids like about are like right totally fine johnny bravo johnny bravo is great well johnny bravo is okay because it's a story about acting obnoxiously will get you nowhere in life i guess so yeah for the most part and get jacked because it's cool yeah i just realized that on the back there's a synopsis of the movie it's high-tech hilarity the whole family will love when high school science whiz ben cooper goes online to win a computerized smart house, specifically designed to make life easier.

Oh, what a convenience. Like, I thought it was going to make life harder. Nothing else happens of consequence. Don't worry about it. But instead, his family's existence becomes more troublesome than ever. Existence. When Ben tries to put a glitch in his widowed father's love life, the smart house takes on a virtual motherly identity, who not only becomes overly possessive of the Coopers, but replicates herself

into Pat, personal applied technology, an out-of-control mother like no other, smothering, stubborn, and dangerously undeletable. Oh, no. Oh. It's up to Ben to match wits with Pat's central intelligence and outsmart, it's a pun because of the name, the smart house once and for all. I think most moms are undeletable. Well, if they are, then that's just murder, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. When smart house is like a lady when she's just in the kitchen, can you shoot her with a gun? No. Yeah, can you shoot? Is that one of the options? Because there's a moment where she passes through them and he's like, you can't give us hugs.

And then she's like, oh, no, I can't give you hugs. No, but I mean like a really good gun. Oh, okay. Well, then no. Yeah, you could totally shoot her with a really good gun. Anyway, that's it for decom cast back to slippy uh back to slippy i do want to get to two things and i as soon as i said that i cannot remember what they were so what do you got jordan codis what were they yeah you wanted

to talk about that one time when you were a kid and you um you you peed on that anthill and it was really fucked up because it was just a like a pretty sense it was just a senseless act of just hate i felt that that immigration forum i was like have you have you genocided anyone and i was like this is i guess i might have actually all those all those and all those and all those uncles oh yikes i have some uh twitter questions that we got through oh nice yeah yeah let's do that oh what do you want your next next tattoo to be oh shoot i don't know any ideas on your brain i have a few i want to get my first car tattooed on me oh nice it was uh it was a 2003 oldsmobile Alero.

It was my grandfather's. And it was just a fucking cool car. I don't know. Maybe it's not. But when I was 17 and it was a car that I had, I was like, this is the fucking coolest car I could ever have. That'll probably be my next one. I don't know where I'll put it.

Do you have any ideas for tattoos Jordan and I should get? Because neither of us are tattooed up. And I genuinely, I know this is like such a weird idea when i don't have any tattoos but my entire life i've wanted to be tatted the fuck up and like really by the end of 2021 that was my goal wow now they won't let me in i keep knocking on the door a lot of them just won't let me inside cowards i show up butt ass naked ready to get ready to go what is it and my therapist comes out and she's like you have to leave people always ask me like what should my first tattoo be or what should and it's like i don't i never know because it's my first one was this uh orca whale on my oh nice so it's pretty not

ballsy to get for a first tattoo because it's pretty big and like and like a pretty open spot but right i wish i probably got it somewhere else, but I mean, can't really change it now, but, um, wait, what? Uh, you can't, you can't, no, you they're there. Oh, okay. Wait a minute. I'm glad I didn't dive into this head. Oh, I'm thinking of Hannah where people go wrong as they try to put too much meaning into one tattoo it's like this chair a represents this my the four brothers and sisters i have and then the the daisy that's on top of it represents the other four brothers and sisters i have i was thinking of getting like like four brothers and sisters like across my chest for the four brothers and sisters

for the brothers and sisters i'm thinking about having i do very sincerely plan on getting a jar jar binks tattoo and there's no reason to continue talking about it do it you have to oh shit i have to oh fuck really do i i was called jar jar binks a lot in elementary school oh that's cute jar jar inks hey write that down that's uh that's the tattoo parlor you go into and it's like me they immediately turn around how the hell have you guys stayed in business holy shit oh god this is horrible oh curtis i have a question for you okay you're a podcaster in your own right yeah how how the hell do you do a podcast by yourself? I, Drew and I were talking about this.

It is the most impressive thing I've ever witnessed. Like those are my favorite type of podcasts are just the solo ones. Um, I mean like solo, everything that happened. Uh, I used to listen to a lot of, uh, Chris D'Elia's podcast. Okay. Um, yeah. Before I knew he was a, you know, you must still be listening, right? Again, I am coming out of a three-year coma. Yeah, he's, man, he's on top of the world right now, man. It's crazy. I've got a live show tickets coming up.

There is house. But yeah, I was listening to a lot of his podcast and that's kind of what inspired me to start my own one. And it's like, it is really hard to do it every week. Even like recently I started, I have like a producer now who like sometimes comes on for like a little segment, which is nice to have like a little break for me to like bounce ideas off of and stuff and like talk and like do bits with instead of just me being like, so this is an idea for a bit I have.

And I don't know, hopefully that's fine. Okay, let's talk about the next thing um but I think it's all I've always viewed it as like a challenge I guess to be entertaining for an extended period of time because I think that was the whole thing with Vine it was like I was so fixated on like setup punchline and then that's it that's the end so I was like once I start once Vine ended I started doing like long form stuff I like like even translated to my stand up too. I wanted to do like more like fleshed out stuff. And I think the podcast helps out as well.

So it's just like, I don't know. It's definitely, it's definitely gotten easier. No, it's a cool skill set to develop too. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's, it helps everything. Cause like I script like 90% of my videos, but the other 10% I can leave for like, if I think of something and I can see where that goes.

For sure. And then same as stand up. If someone yells something or just like heckles or some shit, or if I think of another punchline when I'm talking, I can just kind of go out and explore that and then get back to it.

But yeah, it's a lot of fun though. It's like reporting a podcast is like the highlight of my week. It's a good time. No, it's so rad, dude. How many episodes are you up to? I just put out 111. That's so awesome.

Congrats. You're all done. Yeah, thanks. It's a long time. Is that the official season finale? 111. Nice and symmetrical. That's first season's done now.

P.O. Now we go to 2-2-2. Yeah, every season is 111 episodes with a full arc with different characters. They're all you, but they are different. They actually represent my four brothers and sisters. My evil half-brothers and sisters. It's like in Mandarin where there's different tones and pitches for different words.

You have different characters that are just slightly pitched up and toned differently. Right, that's why I knew the Mandarin version of Bet on It. Exactly, yeah. Yeah. There was a question. I have to point this out. There was just a question of somebody.

I'm so sorry I lost you because you deserve the credit. But somebody said, do you have an evil twin called Kurt isn't? Wow. They asked if I have an evil twin named Kurt isn't. Kurt isn't. Do you get it, dude? Who are you looking at? Is he still over there?

He's sort of he's kind of going like that oh oh right that's like an international side of friendship i think yeah he's rubbing his finger along his neck i think i would trust him yeah i think he's gonna like give me a an adam's apple massage because he usually does it anyway that sounds incredibly unpleasant yeah an adam's apple massage it is but for him it's great he loves right again right like it's yeah um it's against your will but not his his will yeah evil to it is just why yes he is an evil twin he said that he said that's how it goes which means he isn't i guess he's saying yes i am an evil twin oh i don't know what to believe anymore unreliable narrator. Narrator, I hardly know her.

Expand on that. No, please. Please say more. What? I think I said an awesome joke and we all laughed and then we kind of moved on. Oh, sounds like a narration to me.

Wait, somebody looks like Curtis just walked in. Oh, no. How did he get there so fast? I have several. I have thousands across the planet. Across the planet. Across the universe.

They're evil half-brothers. Somebody asked a question that I'm actually, I'm not even going to over-contextualize because I'm not sure I fully understand what direction they're going with with it but i kind of want to get all of your reads on it has love it has anybody ever taken you and your career for granted i could be what wrote that thanks i could be has anyone ever taken me and my career for granted yeah no next question yeah i'm like i don't know what that means yeah yeah i'm not sure now i'm gonna lose sleep thinking that there is someone i can think of a few half brothers who might have something to say quite a few actually they'd be singing a different tune if they're on the mic

right now specifically a different pitch yeah actually i want to point out i feel like since there's thousands and thousands of them i can't help but feel like you're the deviation. And also they're older than you. I think it's weird that you get to be the main one. No, I never said that. Did I? You sort of implied it like he's your evil twin. It sounds like you are just a brothers with a lot of people. I have, I'm one man.

I'm like sort of. Gotcha. I'm. Curtis tries to convince us he's one man. I don't know so much about that i'm sort of the uh the the trunk of the tree okay and then all my evil half brothers and sisters they're uh they're like the branches and the twigs and the leaves and the caterpillars and the squirrels so yeah i'm sort of like the hub for all of them they all report to me i'll have a we all have a slack there's a

slack for my brothers not a discord but a slack more professional it's a very professional relationship no it makes sense makes sense you guys all share an email domain like you've got a whole google organization and i gotta say even across time zones you're very very respectful about your work-life balance yeah well we're all in eastern time but but let me there are people who are who live on like pacific the one in my house for example yeah yeah he you ask what time that person is going to bed it's going to be like 11 p.m eastern time on the dot that's really weird every day 11 p.m we lie down we close our eyes and we're asleep it takes no less than a second for all of us to fall asleep incredible do you have like a remarkable do you have some sort of like shared

consciousness like inside of your mind like are you guys hanging out in like an internet chat room in your collected brains surprisingly enough no it's all we all have our own three fathers you're oh because you're half brothers you all have your own like we all have different fathers same mother and she gets around let me tell you but yeah but it's just like we all have the same you know like goals and viewpoints and opinions but we all have our own like we all think and like do the exact same things but we all have our own like uh free will so it's all good and they're evil twins that agree with all the things you do and act the same way yeah so they like they're not they don't really see themselves as related to each other they're evil twins that agree with all the things you do and act the same way yeah so they like they're not they don't really see themselves as related to each other they're all just related to me okay right i see because it's sounding increasingly like you're all the

same and you were just poorly raised i also good people i also did no i see why you can make that argument yeah i did take note of uh of when you said that they all have free will you kind of broke eye contact and looked away as if uh you know, to be committing a lie. Is that right? Just because they look down? No, you know, like body language, you know, like there's certain tells for, I just like. You think they don't have free will because they look down at my little brother who's on his knees begging for free will? That's what I'm saying.

Call me crazy. Call me a conspiracy theorist. But you think that they don't okay yeah okay hey everyone can we get a hey what the heck can we get all together uniformly for papa hey can we all lie down all of my evil brothers and sisters are watching that's it oh well that's all okay before we wrap up i do want to talk about sorry i just god damn it jordan sorry somebody said where do

you get your shirts and i we established it was from the set of get rock wow we answered everyone's questions without even having the questions you know how they say that some some clothing has memory like like you know this is a ancient you know passed down whatever whatever uh i don't know if what i'm saying makes sense but what i like to imagine is that look just go with me here uh i was well what i was just imagining is the camp rock guy like curtis do you ever wake up like with your arms like holding a boom pole that isn't there yeah and i'm getting yelled at by christian bale yeah. Oh my God. Let's move out of the way. This boom operator is prolific.

He's worked on a lot of stuff. No, well, that Christian Bale breakout happened on the set of Camp Rock. Yeah, I know. Christian Bale famously just had nothing to do with the film, but he does like to kill a boom operator. Christian Bale camping. He just hates boom operators. He travels set to set to terrorizeize boom he's got a six he's

got six cents for him he can sniff him out boom operator killed my mother damn it's like it's like it's like taken but for boom operators it's like i they do have a very specific set of skills he collects the infinity shirts too many shirts man there's an infinity of them it seems so that's uh too many okay real quick not real quick actually before we before we wrap up the show i do want to talk about some more feeling stuff specifically like there was a tweet that you posted curtis that i mean i related to but yeah mentioning that you were like feeling a little bit unmotiv Curtis, that I mean, I related to, but yeah, mentioning that you were like feeling a little bit unmotivated in that moment. And I thought we could talk a little bit about motivation and specifically if you wanted to speak on how you were feeling in that moment

or in how you're feeling now or, or anything like that. But we could all talk about our experiences too. For sure. So yeah, when I, I tweeted that I was fucking, that was like down in the dumps. I was like the worst I felt in a while. I was working on one too for sure so yeah when i i tweeted that i was fucking that was like down on the dumps i was like the worst i felt in a while i was working on one video for just so long like longer than usual yeah where i got to the point where i was like i don't even this isn't this isn't even fucking like remotely funny anymore it's just like hours and hours of working on it and then having uploaded in a long time and then there's some other shit that was going on i was just like it wasn't like things that would normally piss me off, but it was like things that were like, it just adds up. Yeah. Yeah. So I was just like, fuck, this is it. I'm done. No, I think I'm not funny anymore. And this is it. I'm going

to fuck. This is this I'm done. My life is over. And that's it. But then I finished like the next day I felt a lot better. Cause then I was like, I woke up early. I was, I got a lot of work done. I finished the video and I was like, okay, I feel better i got stuff done but it was just like dude yeah the the highs are great but the lows are just so insanely low that like like i never felt this shitty when i wasn't doing youtube full time right no i yeah i don't mean to be like this is the worst job ever and like not at all this is like literally like a dream come true but i'm just saying it's like the palette is like emotional palette extends both ways you you cannot just ask for you know like the moment you start doing heroin the crashes are harder right you just can only feel a certain degree of joy with context for what the negative is and that's why some people

get scared away from it we all we all know what heroin is like yeah yeah it's good because some people get scared away from heroin and i don't fuck with those people pussies a collective tear fell from 5 000 uh 5 000 other people curses i relate to that i also think that i don't know what it is but there's something about the job that it feels hard to rein in like typically in in life you want to be like have a little bit of external validation. That always feels good to have people outside of your sphere who don't know you say you did a nice thing. But hopefully you've got an internal validation that's like, I know who I am. I know what I'm contributing to the world. I have a strong community vibe. And I don't know if it's the

solitary nature of YouTube sometimes or the fact that there's a lot of external validation at play but there are like very weird like i know the feeling of like putting out a video that does well is like the highest of highs but then you put out a video that's like 10 out of 10 in your fucking studio and you're like is this is this the end or i haven't had a win in a long time maybe this is a sign that it's all going downhill. Yeah, which, by the way, is the most fucked up feature they could have added to YouTube Studio. I don't know why they did that.

It's just so soul crushing every time you open the app. It's like, hey, you're not doing so good. You could be doing a lot better. Yeah, I've noticed it's actually not even relative to the channel. It almost always says Curtis, which seems weird. Yeah, I don't know why they put that on everyone's. It's like, hey, Curtis. Yeah, my analytics are completely useless because they just say, hey, Curtis, you're not doing so good.

No numbers. Yeah, I think YouTube's just super mean to me for some reason, I guess. Yeah, I can't believe YouTube did something unkind. Yeah. I would consider it. It's really out of character for them. It changed. I'm trying to think of like how i

would frame this but i know for myself when i take creative risks and they don't pan out it's very it's a very vulnerable feeling like i don't feel like i'm too big to fail i feel like at any moment the algorithm could like not pick up the video and it's like game over like nice nice thanks for playing and that's you know when i'm not in my best of spirits. But do you relate at all to that feeling? I feel that way all the time because I kind of put a lot of my eggs in the vine basket and that went away like overnight, basically. So I feel like that's kind of like ruined how I think about my success right now. I just think it's all going to go away at any time yeah obviously it's different because fine was it wasn't making anybody any money and it was just

you know it was just bound to fail but did the transition feel obvious to you like oh well this boat's gone down so i'll hop on the life raft kind of i don't even want to call it a life raft but like here's the obvious next thing to do right uh. It didn't really. It took me like a long time to figure out what I even wanted to do on YouTube because it was so, so different. I really only like found any sort of success when I started like copying like Danny and Drew and Cody. We've all been there. Yeah, it was. It took a while. Like I didn't know if I wanted to like just keep making short videos on like twitter or like keep making the same type of content on other platform but i kind of only

like went to youtube because i was like i still wanted to make videos and that's just like that's what everybody else was doing and it seemed to make the most sense so i was like might as well give it a shot i guess it was weird i was working like a full-time like office job at the time too so it was like it was weird to do both yeah i don't know it was a very weird time what did you go to school for well i went to a two-year program um at humber college it was uh for comedy writing and performance so it was pretty cool it was like there's only like two schools in north america that like have that sort of program i don't know how much I really learned because it was basically like a two year long like drama class, but it was great. I made some really good friends. And I mean, if anything, it like kind of forced me into like the standup scene,

I guess. Like it kind of just like they really encourage you to get out and do shows and stuff. And they like taught me how to like structure like a script and stuff, which was obviously like valuable. But I'm not sure if it is what I'm doing now. I don't know how much I would credit it to that. But right. Right. Because there was nothing in the curriculum about like online video production or anything

like that. The teachers were people who are very successful in comedy and like the 80s, like the 70s and 80s who are like, well, now this is a steady job in what I know how to do, I guess. So yeah. Yeah. Especially my state, my standup teacher was something else,

man. He was really something else. It was like a frog, I think. Yeah. And he had a huge dick on it. It was crazy. Why do you know that?

Huh? What do you know about the dick? My man, that was a curriculum. It was like, yeah. Wow. It was like, you did learn something. my man that was a curriculum it was like yeah wow it was like you did learn something i learned that frogs have huge that's the main thing i did learn uh but yeah it was just like there was a person in my class who was like he's he's a native he did

his like set and our teacher was like you should do like you should really do some uh some indian jokes like really like uh like just like super super offensive stuff and then he was like you should do like you should really do some uh some indian jokes like really like uh like just like super super offensive stuff and then he was like no i'm not gonna do that that's literally what i hate the most there's a lot of that being like people being like let's not let's not say uh offensive slurs and then maybe not be like well it's still the 80s so i think we're fine i think i've gotten away with it so far yeah don't forget it's the past yeah all in all it was good i made some good connections and stuff one thing that i was gonna sort of circle back to on the point of um can it all go away and like having the experience with vine i would say another way

to think about it though is that it's proof that you can do it again like even if youtube were to go away tomorrow like you've already kind of done it once and done it again you know um oh man do i really not want that to happen again i know right but i know yeah that is the positive way of thinking of it that like i've done it before i think yeah i think for me i think for me i'm always like reminding myself that i have skills and like getting to the point that is not a function entirely of luck. Like obviously you can be lucky in a, in a number of ways that I have been, but if I had zero and I was starting from zero, I can sort of start to pull myself back up

by my own bootstraps, I suppose. The, uh, imposter syndrome, right? That's what they call it. That thing where you don't think this is where yeah i feel like i have that all the time it's like it was a fluke that i'm somehow people are subscribed to for sure i mean i guess and that's another thing i've been trying to like remind myself is that like i'm pretty good at stuff i think i'm okay at things i know how to write a joke i know how to edit a video i don't know how to edit a video and I know how to post a video. Yeah. Cause posting is the hardest part. You crushed that. I know.

It took me years to figure that out. Almost all of your videos have been uploaded. It's pretty cool actually. We're proud of you. You know, take, take or leave the writing and video production, but yeah,

I watch your videos and I'm like, these are fucking uploaded dog. Damn. These are posted. Honestly, man, I'm, I'm like so close to watching one of them. Seriously, I can tell that there's probably content in there.

I see how long they are, and I got like two minutes, so I don't get into that. That's fine. My little nephew, he's crazy about computers. He's always watching that stuff. Playing the Fortnite. He's always watching these Fortnights yeah i'm just kidding man your videos are seriously starting to get really good damn thank you almost almost i'm finally

but could you add me getting there could you add a little bit more offensive humor maybe some slurs i don't know oh yeah youtube loves political yeah oh my god yeah okay i'll drop i'll say the n word oh yeah nice video is that funny my man it's so funny it is just it's crazy that not more people are doing this hilarious thing objectively hilarious yeah you remember when louis ck would say that stuff oh man what a guy and he how great would it have been remember when shane came out and he was like the whole blackface thing i didn't know there was a history to it how great he said that about the n word no wait that's what that's what there's a whole thing around that's what tana mojo said about saying the n word wow yeah who was it uh she like never really apologized for it do you see that shit about

rico nasty no but the name doesn't inspire confidence she was like xxl freshman this year yeah she makes some great tracks collaborates with kenny beats a lot but she on a live stream i think maybe in a track used the c word for people of chinese descent oh no and how do you even find that's in like the bargain bin at like racism depot i'm sure if i heard it i'd have to check i'm pretty sure that's better that's like that's like calling you a colored like i'm like it's like how did you even get here like yeah whoa this is dusty a top hat mnemonical yeah yeah goddamn gallants are you chris's stand-up teacher yeah damn he's some kind of stand-up oh my god it's a two-year program my guy uh but yeah

she did an apology on she had to do two apologies in his life because the first time she apologized and said the word oh it's such an easy problem nasty come on you're being nasty that would never fly on the pga steps yeah no pga streets never streets uncle rico come on man we've had some good some good grand old fun here today yeah this is great and we can this flew by so thank you so much curtis for joining us um of course thanks for having me time uh you're welcome back whenever you know you managed to escape the deep but danny and drew are still are still down there so oh yeah i had this thought i had this thought earlier okay really quick so you had danny and drew before me right yeah on the tour i had to go 30 shows opening for them yeah but now you're the fucking closer guy i'm the headliner of this

podcast because you guys aren't doing any more after this no we're done it's it's the end yeah this is it jordan we haven't talked about this but he's right it's the end this is the end i'm the headliner oh okay i mean i you've had a good run we had a good run and it's time and it's time doing the show it is it is i do need it for financial support, but no same time It's the same time I do Curtis. I do want you to feel better about the tour thing So what's more important you know your livelihood or my army feeling a little better? Yeah, it's you you're right You've reinvented yourself a few times you were an American for a few years and now you're back to being a brick I did my best and now I'm back in a famously stable and affordable country with no problems good it's no problem hold that l damn son that's that's what

the trump administration sent you is a presidential letter it's a blank piece of paper and they cut it into an L damn and they did that frat college font thing where it's got all the little it's like the smart house font here I got that L and I drove to Jarvis' house and punched a hole in his wall right next to the first I just have the tax rabbit

that's a new startup that I'm doing where you call someone to do your taxes you take their taxes but the tax rabbit that's uh a new startup that i'm doing where you call someone to do your taxes but uh the tax the tat i i give up on that bit actually i called the tax man and he couldn't fix the hole in my wall because he was a rabbit damn that makes sense wait isn't the other the other starbucks character is around yes wow can you give us some insight maybe on what they're packing heat it's like wow it's tiny it's a tiny tiny crazy because they have so much sex and so many kids and so many it's true that's why it's impressive over time all right well we learned

a lot today we started on animal dicks we're ending on animal dicks that's what we call arc book ending circle is that why we're ending the show because we keep doing that i think it's because pita is knocking on my door and they've got something to say please stop yeah thanks so much curtis for joining us is there anything you want to plug or follow me if you want but if not i you can follow my brothers and sisters that's fine okay i'll think about it you share an account right it's all my account yeah so if you want to subscribe to my brothers and sisters it's fine okay i'll think about it you share an account right it's all my account yeah so if you want to subscribe to my brothers and sisters it's my account y'all share an account and a consciousness yeah well that jury's still out we don't know but yeah i don't know be nice to people yeah and that's it i like that yeah be nice to people

except my stinky little stepbrother oh wow your stinky little stepbrother. Wow. Your stinky little stepbrother gets the worst treatment of all of your brothers. And now he's rubbing a real neck across his... He's rubbing a whole neck. Rubbing a neck across his neck. That's wild.

That neck of the last person he killed. Apple to apple contact. Thank you. Thank you. For having me on. Oh yes yes of course we end every episode of sad boys with a particular phrase we love you and we're sorry go to rich for me Lookin' at future girl, future girl, yeah we on now Take my money, go away, all you want is Girl, you're too rich for me