Sad Boyz - Why Are These TikTok Kids Saying The No-No Word 🙅🏾‍♀️ (w/ Courtreezy)

Episode Date: December 2, 2020

We talk to youtube phenom Courtreezy about her rapid rise to internet stardom, her college experience, and why these tiktok kids are wilin Follow Courtney! ► https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAPw1N3BiVWTW6T-I2ReBWg   Watch Us Live (Wednesday/Sunday/Friday) ► https://twitch.tv/sadboyzpod   Follow Us https://instagram.com/sadboyz https://twitter.com/sadboyz

Welcome to sad boys a podcast about feelings and other things also i'm jarvis i'm jordan did you know i think according to some stuff i saw i think it's a bisexual awareness day so happy by day yeah my visibility everybody. Yeah, Bi Visibility Day. Happy, you know, yeah. Happy Bi Visibility Day, everybody. We are joined by a very special guest today. The one, the only, I think, Court Reasy. Hello. Thanks so much, Court Reasy, for joining us. Yeah, it's nice to be here. Can you prove that you're the only one?

I'm sure there's other imitators out there yeah i'm sure but i'm definitely clowns just court easy is it okay if we refer to you as courtney for the podcast or should we yeah no that's cool that's cool have you ever been referred to by court reesey like by just like regular people in your life my sister calls me court reesey now like every time oh that's oh now it's like a new thing i like that yeah wow yeah that's pretty much it just my sister calls me court reesey now like every time oh that's oh now that's like a new thing i like that yeah wow yeah that's pretty much it just my sister that's cute though yeah i don't hate it content support i like that yeah yeah i know it's just a second subscriber first that's how it should be you know assert your dominance in the relationship so we're gonna

talk to court reesey uh learn about her story because i'm curious because we don't know each other d'angelo just mentioned mentioned courtney's content and i checked it out i loved it jordan checked it out he loved it and then uh people started asking for you and we had to give the people what they want and it was also what we wanted as well so yeah so thanks so much for joining us wow what i love so much about because i couldn't i went ham over the weekend i like ate up the entire your entire channel like over the weekend and it's nice you you got you gobble it up it's actually gone now because you ate it i smoothied it and i drank it in fact wow it's my macbook i'm not well

it hurt but it was like it's almost feels like having a warrior on my side on our side for tiktok like attacking all the pieces i don't like yeah thank you a tiktok warrior yeah we'll get into that but first courtney how was your week it's been good you know the only bad thing about this week is that my allergies were acting up, but I'm good today. It's all good. Shout out to the allergy gang. Are you a fan of the antihistamine, the Zyrtex, the Claritins? Huge fan.

Huge fan. I'm also an allergy boy. Back when I was in elementary school, they called me snot nose because my nose was always running. That's fucking awesome. I know. Yeah. Crazy. that's fucking awesome i know yeah um crazy now i stay uh i stay strapped with uh a bunch of zyrtec in my closet just like i have to take it every day that's crazy can i call you snot nose is that chill uh no well i mean you know yeah go ahead and call me snot nose it's fine it won't bring back any old memories or anything courtney, like, are you doing YouTube full time?

Or do you have like a job outside of it? Or what's the deal? I don't even know. I was actually supposed to go into nursing school literally this fall. Yeah. And then I decided, yeah, I'm going to do it full time. Yeah, it's great. Whoa.

Congrats to you. That's so cool. Yeah, it's crazy. It's like a dream come true. Because it's actually something I've always wanted to do. And's finally happening that's so amazing yeah congrats to you what a what a great birthday gift yeah and congrats to you on like on taking that initiative too like it's easy to say like hey if my channel was kicking off then i'd probably you know i'd probably go full time but you have this this roadmap already and to say like no fuck that

this is the thing that i want i'm gonna do that because yeah i always have that's actually really cool that's crazy nurseries you would hit different oh my god yeah my parents used to say that if i did end up going to nursing school i should just make nursing videos on youtube but i don't think it would hit the same i'm gonna go ahead and say make whatever you want on youtube and it doesn't have to have anything to do with your career young jarvis who's making videos about software engineering because they get views no but that's it that's so amazing well okay so we'll get into this stuff i guess i should ask jordan how his week is so jordan what are you up to what's how's it going that's okay that's very kind of you i know you don't like hearing about it. I know. I don't particularly like people knowing that I had a week. I like the idea that I just sit

here and I change clothes between podcasts, which not hugely untrue. Pretty, actually pretty close. I literally live in this chair. I would say 15 hours out of the day I'm sitting in this chair, for sure. Is it a good chair? Is it providing you lumbar support? It's a very bad chair. Here's a little insight. It's literally just like a crappy dining. Oh no! No! But I have never felt better in a chair.

It's why. I can't. Something about it's the lack of ability to move, forced lumbar and spine support. My feet are always straight on the ground. Nice firm back. Because your boy, I'm a big lanky lad, right? So usually I'm spilling over like an office chair and i'm sliding around and trying to get comfortable and with this

bad boy i'm getting a doppler effect on the mic and on this bad boy i'm just like i'm sat up straight the whole time because i'm just on my keyboard i look like uh i'm an actual adult if you can imagine you know it sounds like uh stockholm syndrome to me but i'll take you on your word it likes me no the chair fucking likes me dude enjoy your we're actually really close enjoy your chair from 1943 thank you so much we've had a good professional week too we're paying jordan now through the podcast jordan's job is officially now to just be a sad boy and also stream so that's exciting it's kind of wild yeah talk about put things like the moment yeah the dreams just put the rest away yeah man it's yeah we're very lucky

i remember when we were we were still at patreon and we would like record this podcast that nobody was listening to and we would get so hyped on it and then we'd be like man like wouldn't it be cool if one day we could do this as as like a job but that seems so far away at the time and so it's nice to take a step back and be like it's happening the thing that we never knew would happen is happening and that's so cool yeah because ali would always say it feels like it's like i don't know like uh 30 months away more or less like maybe two and a half years That seems like about the exact amount of time it would be. And I feel like specifically you'd be doing YouTube in this podcast. Like that guess was wild that we were able to guess that accurately. Congratulations, though.

That's really good. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. One fun thing is that we have a recording of when we started the podcast because Jordan and I, we weren't as good friends as we are now, but we were like, we have a good rapport. So maybe it would be fun to do a podcast together. And we recorded for two hours, us trying to come up with the premise of a podcast. So one day we will release or play the inception of this podcast. There was a moment where we like

came up with the name where we get like really excited about it. We're waiting for a good time for that. It's a total card moment in the movie. There is a point, I will give a little teaser, where at one point we were considering calling the podcast Mocha Boys. That's pretty good. Which is just, well, actually, originally the show is going to be called Talking White because we have both always sounded like this our whole lives. And you know how black people, and it's like, I, I like grew up in like a very sort of de facto segregated town.

I didn't even know white people until I was 13 and I sounded, I sounded like this the whole time. And I was like, I don't know what you mean. I don't know any white people, you know what I mean? So it's like, but yeah,

fun times all around. I was actually going to ask Courtney, what kind of space did you grow up in mean so it's like but yeah fun times all around i was actually gonna ask courtney what kind of space did you grow up in did you have like a similar experience at all um no it wasn't segregated at all like especially my high school my middle school it was mixed like all types of races yeah i mean i guess elementary it was a lot of yeah it was mostly a black environment but when i went to middle school and when i moved and everything it was really mixed yeah yeah my stuff was like in the 60s or whatever when my hometown was integrated it was kind of one of those like redlining situations where everybody who is black lived on the east side of town and everyone else lived on the west side of town where

there was all the like economic expansion and stuff my elementary school was like on the east side of town and it wasn't until i was in like a gifted program quote unquote you know how that is i was able to go to a school outside of my school zone and that was when i was like introduced to people who like came from like a different socioeconomic background wait did you say you went to school in the 60s or it was like the 60s no oh oh i went to school in the 60s i'm i'm actually 107 years old yeah yeah black black don't crack man it's just it's crazy or age at all no my town was i know from like the history of gainesville florida where i grew up it was integrated in the 60s and like 65 or something. That's when they started allowing the mixing of the races. But you know, Florida be crazy. You know,

it's a good thing Florida turned around and never became problematic. And everyone from Florida is known for their upstanding citizenship and just being a good person. For sure. But you assume you haven't checked in a while. I assume left when i was 18 but when i left everything was on the up and up and i presume that everything in florida is good now is is that wrong i'm too afraid to correct you oh you guys are concerned i should i'll look at i'll look into this after the bad stuff happening in florida oh that's true i mean yeah flor sucks. But the reason is that the reason for the Florida man situation is because there's like some law in Florida where like every like minor incidents of crime or whatever has to be like written up. And then there's some way that it gets promoted to like a national. I can't remember the reason. But basically, the reason that everything is Florida man is because basically everything that has a police report in Florida is public record. And so there's just a ton of record of all this shit happening, whereas other places don't necessarily have that much transparency.

But still, Florida also is problematic for a thousand other reasons. And we don't have to talk about how I'm from there. I like to forget it. Where did you grow up, Courtney? I was born in Dallas, Texas and raised in Houston. And that's where I still am. Wait, is D'Angelo in Houston or in, where is he? D'Angelo Wallace is in Texas. And I can't remember, might have to connect the dots there. He's looking for you. He told us, he told us. And I just am a bad friend. So what was your introduction to YouTube? You mentioned like you're living out a

dream now, but like how did, where did that dream come from? Like what were your influences that kind of put you on this, on this path? Okay. So my freshman year of high school, I made a channel with my best friend and we were mostly inspired by, I don't know if you know them, Keen and Sam. I've talked about it in a video, but Keen and Sam, I think they also had a group channel. It was called Our Second Life. And so I just love them. I love them a lot. Same with my best friend.

We just love them. And so we decided we were going to be like the black version of Keen and Sam, the black female version. But yeah. Yeah. And so we just made that channel. And then after that, I think we just, we stopped posting and then made our own separate channels. And now it's actually coming to fruition, I guess.

When did you start your channel, like, as the Court Reasy channel? Did that start, like, back in high school or? It was the summer before freshman year of college. So that was 2016, I think. 2016. Okay, cool. Yeah. That's awesome.

Yeah. It's kind of wild that that's now, like, like, I feel like there's a whole generation of YouTube where they always, their dream was always to be creators, right? Like that's the dream. And then YouTube was the right conduit for that or like whatever site they use. And now it's no, YouTube is the dream from like day one, like a five-year-old kid wants to do that and they grow up and that's the thing they shoot for. It's kind of nice.

Like, it's nice to have a more focused goal. it's like i want to make stuff i don't know where it's crazy because i know when i first started my channel youtube or becoming a youtuber was weird like i didn't even like telling people at school i hated it oh yeah yeah one time somebody played my youtube videos in history class i what yeah horrible. I hated it. How is it now? What's your comfort level? I'm really comfortable now. I mean, especially since like a lot of people have seen my channel already. I'm really comfortable compared to how I was in high school and maybe even the beginning of college. I'm way more comfortable. Yeah. I didn't like when people played my videos in front of me. I mean, I'm still like that, but I can handle it a little bit better. Yeah. It's weird. Yeah. One time I had a video of mine played in a,

what was essentially a job interview, but it was a, like I made my channel when I was 14 and like, there were just like shit posts on it and just like me dancing to high school musical. And so someone played one of those. Yeah. Someone played one of those those videos from 2007 of me dancing to High School Musical. And that was weird. It was like a group interview thing. It was for like an oil company. I didn't want to work there. How did they even find the video?

So my friend Naomi told the people about it. And so they played it during like this group interview lunch thing. At that point, I was able to own it. It was weird like posting stuff as a teen, but I took a very, very long break because I was afraid of... I had videos go viral early on in my youth, and then I was afraid of not being able to best myself, not being able to get more views, and I was afraid of public failure. And so I was like, oh, well, I just won't post for 10 years so that'll that'll be my solution to that can't fail Courtney what's the I mean I guess

that's a new kind of question now that it's your main focus but do you have that anxiety still that like next video could be the trash one like this could be it yeah especially when my first video that blew up I was so nervous about posting another video. Because I wasn't sure if I was just getting subscribers, and they weren't gonna watch my videos, or like, if they watched the next one, it wouldn't be as funny as the first one. And yeah, it was a lot. It was a lot. I still kind of feel that way now. But yeah, I mean, I was gonna say that's such a very relatable experience for people who especially are going through the period in their YouTube careers or their creative careers that you're going through. Because like for context, I mean,

correct me if I'm wrong, but you've probably gotten like 200,000 subscribers in the past couple of weeks, right? Yeah. Yeah. What's that been like? Like, I know you've started speaking on it, but I'm very curious, like what that's been like and how you're feeling about it. Because, you know, it's something that I went through at points in my career. It's a very unique experience. Yeah. I'm still shocked, honestly, because it happened so fast. Literally, the beginning of July or the end of June, whatever, I had 36,000 subscribers.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. So it's so crazy to like, wait for context. That's like almost 800,000 subscribers in July, August, September so grateful for everything. Absolutely. Yeah. And I think that you're, you know, well deserving of your platform. You're a very talented and, you know, gifted creator who's putting in the work. And I mean that you deserve every, every ounce of like attention that you're getting for the, for the stuff. So do you ever doubt that? Do you have the little, little self-esteem moments where you're like, ah, is this my right to be getting that? Yeah. Yeah. We'll tell you how good you are anytime. I don't know if it's called imposter syndrome little self-esteem moments where you're like ah is this my right to be getting that yeah yeah we'll tell you how good you are anytime yeah i don't know if it's called imposter syndrome or

whatever but i sometimes feel like maybe this is i don't know like it's an accident or something i don't know it's oh that's imposter syndrome yeah that's it's uh there's all these people around me that deserve it and they got it right yeah right yeah like you'll be found out as a fraud it's a it's a very classic conundrum yeah that's crazy you get an email from youtube and they're like all these subscribers accidentally oh we've made a mistake yeah it's a box of uh oops all subscribers like whoops we spilled all these subscribers on your channel by accident we've got to like scoop them back up. Yeah, it's crazy.

Like, I just feel like, I don't know. Sometimes I have that moment. Like there's some days where I'm like, okay, yeah, I definitely deserve these subscribers. But then there's some, it's like, oh, what if they like later on find out that I'm actually not that interesting and they don't really like me, you know? Yeah. Yes. Relate. But I think that like to counter that, there's also so many things that your audience finds appealing about you that you may be even taking for granted

because you are with yourself all day, every day. Something I struggled with early on was I need to always be topping myself. And if my previous videos aren't as good, then people will get disinterested in stuff. And then I made a second channel where I didn't try as hard on videos and people really continued to resonate with them. And I realized it's because of a lot of just intrinsic qualities that come out when I share my opinion on things and stuff that are not things that I think of, right? So I can say that like, and this is something that was bestowed upon me. So I'm sharing with you that like, I do not have those same fears for you, just as I do have them for myself. But it's like, because it's like very natural, but like,

but just know that if you just keep following your curiosity and keep doing what's interesting to you, your audience is going to connect with that. And like you're doing everything right. So like, I wouldn't even like, it's silly to say I wouldn't even, it's silly to say that don't even stress because it's a stressful situation. It's scary. You don't know what's happening. I remember when my channel was like blowing up, I was frantically checking the analytics because I was afraid that all the growth was going to stop. And I was like, okay, when's the cliff going to end? And it's like weather to a certain degree, right? Like at some point, things will start to ebb and flow, but that all comes with the territory. And it's as long as you're listening to yourself and just paying attention to the audience yeah like truly like you got this like i i just want to like be validating as many people because it's like i stressed out a lot unnecessarily so like take it from me you've got you've got nothing to worry about thank you so much that means a lot

do you know a lot of people in the scene like do you chat to a lot of people that do similar stuff? I guess now has been kind of a bad time to... Yeah, I only talk to like about one person that I talk like almost every other day type of thing. But other than that, it's like TikTokers, which is really weird. But yeah, I talk to a few TikTokers. How is that? How is the TikTok space? Like, what is background actually with TikTok? I guess is a first question. I just make random videos every now and then. And so every time I make a video or it goes on the For You page, it's nice to see that people recognize me from YouTube. And I think it's mostly because I make a lot of TikTok related YouTube videos. Right. From doing that, I've been able to make quite a few TikTok friends. So. That's awesome.

Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. It's almost like we're in like different clicks at the lunch tables or whatever. At the lunch table. Like we're all at the same creative school. It's like, hey, the TikToks seem nice. I just don't know how to say hi. Courtney over here, just the chameleon flowing between all the tables. Honestly. When you're looking at TikTok and looking at like, I'm making content about this, is a lot of the stuff coming from people's suggestions? Or is it like a bit of that and your own personal experience through the app? Because I like haven't done a TikTok deep dive in a while, but there's so many little corners of it. Like so many random communities. Yeah, so much. It's a mixture of the two. Like I did the sibling video. I don't know if y'all saw that, but.

Yes. Unfortunately, I did see it. Yeah, so that was from me personally finding them. And then I saw someone suggested to me, but it wasn't because of them being siblings. It was because the girls baby talk. And so it's a mixture of both, honestly. Yeah, baby talk is challenging. That is challenging that's challenging content yeah i don't know what to say about some of these tiktokers one series that you have on your channel

just for people who aren't familiar with you is reacting to tiktoker apologies um saying the the n-word yeah and which they just love to do they just love to do it is it part of it that they don't see other people get in trouble for it i don't understand because it can't be this is chill right it's like no it's like murder like people go to jail for you see it all the time right like you see people get canceled so what makes you think that you can take a swing at this i say it's their sacrifice to fame like i feel like they have to do it so they can just become famous because it seems like every famous tiktoker says the n-word and i don't understand you're right it is brave yeah i someone someone has to say it and i think it's got to be uh i can't even name a tiktoker right now i'll take a guess dylan dillonson they all have two

first names i feel yeah yeah it's always like Blake Charles, Charles Blake. Boom, two viral TikTokers right there. They're currently in a feud. Yeah, they're both dating Jessica Marie. It sounds believable, I think. She's one of 11 siblings. My theory on this has to do with the fact that they're young and their brains haven't fully developed.

The last thing to come is like understanding long-term consequence yeah and there's also this like kind of hard headedness of like teenagers where you tell them they can't do something and they do it but but i want to do it though and it's like there are no stakes for me here and usually like if i was you know i had my edgy bullshit teen phase i think we all get a little angsty and annoying at a certain point and think that we're cooler than we are certainly not like you know not cool like we all are now incredibly cool and and beloved there's like speak for yourself we we have no like as soon as you're a tiktoker with a platform and

you're still the age of people that think they're invincible then you're in trouble as opposed to just being hey i'm a kid and i'm edgy and i'm at school but there's i know 11 people and worst case scenario i have to apologize to one person ever as opposed to wow 3.2 million people watch this and i just kind of have never had consequences for anything i've done before i've've been grounded, like maybe. Real quick, real quick. I don't want anyone who's a teenager or anyone who's listening, who's a teenager to feel like we're shading them. We're only speaking about people who have been granted a lot of power and attention and feel like invincible as a result. And it's not like, like I was also a teenager not doing this problematic shit. You know what I mean? So I was dancing to High School Musical 2.

I mean, I thought it was a productive use of time in that moment. And I was saying the N-word, but I was allowed to. Sorry, kids. The music was too loud to tell. Yeah, the music was too hard to tell. But no, no shade to teens in general. It's really just like a combination of power and a lack of accountability. Yeah. general, it's really just like a combination of power and a lack of accountability and also an environment that doesn't allow for, or an environment that kind of enables this stuff.

Because I don't know about you guys, and I'm talking a lot, so I will just pass this off to you. Do you think that there's a bit of all criticism is just the haters going on? Like where people feel like, oh, if you're criticizing me, you're just a hater. Because that's the thing that I run into a lot with commentary, where it's like, if I say that Dan Bilgerian has done some pretty problematic things

in his past, people are like, you're just upset that he's like, he pays for models to hang out with him. And I'm like, I don't think you'll ever believe me, but I'm not jealous of that. You're just going to have to take my word.

You're criticizing him for the things that he did because he can bench more than you, bro do you think honey i can see it like that i also feel like it depends on the way that the message is delivered because i can still see how you can make criticism and people will see it as hating um but yeah like i said i feel like it really just depends on the delivery but then there's some people that just reach like they'll just try and call anybody a hater that has a different opinion. I think that's the thing.

Like it kind of makes me think of like us all living in our own echo chambers and stuff. But even when good faith criticism or like you take the Shane Dawson thing and it's like people will bend over backwards to excuse stuff. And it's like you actually don't have the platform to excuse. I saw a Shane Dawson video the other day where he, someone put on a mask of Obama and then he beat the guy. And just like the joke was that he just kept beating him with a bat. And I was like, whoa, guy. Like if you're like, it's old jokes, it's ma ma ma. But also notably, he was not a teenager.

Oh yeah. He was like 30 at this point. He had all the brain points available to him and he just spent them wrong i think the hater thing is probably easy to shout out if you're a teen right like let me just get on teens a little more now if you're being validated by those 3.2 million people that did watch the video and did hit you with a like and you are getting hate the hate is never ever going to outweigh the number of positive lurkers ever it's literally

impossible so worst case scenario a small number of people proportionally are like hey what you did was messed up and you're like well but i still got all the thing that i wanted like i'm not losing anything especially if you're a kid and like i mean i guess you could lose a brand deal or something but you're not in the same kind of professional jeopardy you would be as an adult exactly got in trouble like that if you're like us three of us it is all just haters we've never done anything wrong if somebody says you've done anything wrong no matter how eloquent or nice it is they're jealous probably or something hating do you get that at all though actually do you get hit with some hate that you feel purely comes from a... Hmm. Yeah, I think I'll... Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I do.

But I don't really get a lot of hate at all, actually. Oh, yeah. And if I do, I just don't see it. I found that it would be good for my mental health to block every configuration of the N-word in my comments. Oh. Because while it is sometimes coming from Black people, it is often coming from people who I cannot verify

should be saying the word aka anime avatars etc and i'm like oh yeah i maybe i just have a hard and fast rule here because it's i'm not here to like take you to n-word court and like decide whether or not you should or shouldn't say the word that's a good name for a series there n-word court it sounds like a chappelle show sketch. Yeah, that's true. Well, that's where we have to get it right now. That handsome son of a bitch takes our idea from us.

Dude, Chappelle has the drip. Is anybody talking about this enough? Chappelle actually has full drip. Yeah, he's wearing like the nicest long lines ever. He's turned very buff. He's, the thickness of his neck keeps me up at night. Troy, all the jokes he stores in there. He stores thickness of his neck keeps me up at night Troy all the jokes these stores in there Courtney what kind of stuff like outside of creating content with a capital C

Do you do you like to do do you have any like hobbies or anything that like or any interests like movies TV? Any sort of media stuff? But I like shopping um but other than that it's not superficial can we not can we like hit pause and say like hey if you like shopping that's a perfectly valid thing to like and don't let society tell you that it means anything because you have a certain it's kind of like if you like sports it's like a sports ball or whatever and it's like oh you like shopping and it's like you're a stereotype and it's like no how about people are three dimensional and i like shopping frankly i love it to a detriment sometimes it's a problem in my life but yeah i like shopping and other than that i like watching tv shows every now and then i don't

really watch movies that much because i always fall asleep. I don't know why. Okay. What's hot in the TV show loop for you right now? I'm actually not watching anything. The last thing I watched was Greenleaf. Have y'all heard of that? What is Greenleaf? It's just about a church family in a church and just the drama that happens in the life of church members, honestly.

That's it. Were you a big churchgoer going up or do you go to church now? Yeah, I still go to church now. I church now i mean since well my family doesn't physically go to church right now but yeah yeah that's a good point probably for the best wait how did is that is that like legit is that like zoom church is that a thing oh there is yeah oh cool yeah they should i tell you they live stream the church every sunday so when i was doing research for like setting up our sad boy stream and stuff, a lot of the tutorials and YouTube videos I was finding were for specifically like running

virtual church. And there is a, someone used the phrase worship technology. And I was like, whoa, that is two words that I'd never seen that I'd never expected to see next to each other but yeah so shout out to all of the virtual churching that's going on oh no we don't like that no courtney feel free to like talk about it to your comfort level obviously but like uh what's your background with your faith and like is it is it uh helping you especially right now? I assume it would have to.

Yeah, yeah, it's been helping me. Because you know, during times of I guess, stress and anxiety, I feel like I can just rely on God to like, you know, keep me going. Yeah. And I think that like, now is a good time to save it. Like I grew up in a household, like going to church and stuff, going baptist church and while i'm not like religious at all now i have seen so much you know it's like i think that like church as a big entity and in sort of certain churches deserve all the criticism as an organization that they get but the amount of safety and good feelings and just like community that has come from church, especially like just in black communities that I've been a part of, is so comforting and so good. And I can never take away that from someone based on my own personal beliefs that are my own. You know what

I mean? One thing I don't like is that people on the internet like to be like all snooty about shit. It's like you're missing you're missing the point. Like let people live their lives. Let people have like what works for them. Yeah, because I'm sure if we put a microscope on anyone's life and actions, you could criticize it. You know what I mean? And so so it's like if you're not harming anyone then like let people i don't know just let people like do it it feels nice sometimes to be to feel like uh especially on like reddit to feel persecuted to be like oh these friggin friggin catholics they're after they hate me being an atheist they can't handle it and it's like

okay you might have gone to a place like westboro baptist church they they're terrible people that they they get a special personal hell and it's just like full of dog shit or whatever the vast vast majority of people that are even a scotch religious truly do not give a shit if you're an atheist it is so uninteresting not even like bipartisan like look i'm willing to accept you it's not even that they just don't care at all like it's just not a part of their life and i think the indulgence of like well you know they i scare them so it's my intense belief so like i was such a huge fan of ricky gervais growing up he's like an essential comedic influence for me and his fucking his

twitter is so embarrassing it's so atheist dad now it's so just like uh him replying to like a mom from wisconsin saying like uh actually jesus is gonna judge you and he's like oh yeah well bitch uh and it's just like what is you go swim in your infinity pool brother what are you doing yeah yeah you're actively like pissing on your own legacy by like looking like a clown right now it's like why jk rowling could have just shut her mouth and like lived out life as like a publicly liked person and we would have forgotten all the stuff about like hook nose goblins who run gringotts bank and and like cho chang and all these things that like when you go back and look at it you go oh maybe that was kind of a little problematic maybe and then like she would have gotten away with that scot-free but then she was

like no i'm gonna dig my feet in on being a bad person i guess what did she do because i heard that like everyone hates her now but i don't know i didn't look into it so essentially like well okay so jumping back to what jordan was saying about the narrative that the atheist edgelord has about organized religion. It's like, who are you dunking on? Who are you dunking on? You're dunking on Wisconsin mom who likes going to church on Sunday and going to a buffet afterward. That's what we did when I was a kid or whatever, you know, it's like, and, and, and it's like, what have you accomplished by like, by doing that? And then similarly, those people are not harmed by like people going to church in any way. Typically those people are just like, want to validate themselves that their own beliefs are good. And so similarly, trans people weren't doing anything to JK Rowling. And then she just started like being like vocally anti-trans in a very toxic way. And it's like, yo, how about you like let people be comforted in their own identities and feel like supported

and finally feel like they live in a time and a space where they can like be themselves. And then she's like, but what about the bad bad things and it's very similar to how like people who are anti-immigrant go like but they're not bringing their best people they're bringing murderers and stuff and it's like no we just want to let jordan back in the country can jordan please come back in the country i would like to your country that's fucking full of murderers like already native just wants to make a podcast grown up there you got plenty of full of murderers. Like already. He just wants to make a podcast. Native murderers that have grown up there. You've got plenty of your own murderers.

Yeah, but it's like so convenient to be like, oh, what about the exceptional bad people? And it's like the exceptional bad people are everywhere. Yeah. Take any identity from any walk of life and you can find the exceptional bad people. It's like, are all clowns outlawed because of John Wayne Gacy? They probably should have been. Maybe that's a bad example because all clowns outlawed because of john wayne

gazey they probably should have been maybe that's a bad example because i appreciate it no just kidding just kidding clowning is a whole community that i can't clown on because it's also not problematic people just like clowning yeah that's the thing i could yeah if you're scared of clowns you can let other people have fun with them you know what i mean hey let it let it roll i mean the important thing about jk is that she wasn't just i mean she was adamantly anti anti-trans and she had a platform this all would have been terrible enough but then she was like really proactive about it like actively really funding for charities and shit oh her do you guys know what her new book is about oh my god it's about a man who dresses up as a woman to kill his victims he's a murderer

so it's like oh fantastic why why did you do that that's the problem like i feel like a lot of people don't know how to mind their own business because what did you gain what do you gain for yeah actively being against trans people i just i don I don't understand. It's a TERF thing, right? Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist, which as a term is very frustrating for me because I am very comfortably a feminist. It's not that portion that I would take issue with. It's the first two words in that acronym. But even feminist now is like,

if you say that on the internet, it's like, oh, you're a feminist? Then like, it's almost like how- You think women should be in charge and all men should should die it's like how people have taken black lives matter and they've turned it into a bad thing it's like how did you how did you manage to do that yeah people were just minding their own business trying to i don't know not be killed by the police and then people like they're destroying everything and i'm oh, you mean the insured buildings that millionaires own? Sorry, Chad. Like, Chad, this isn't affecting you. They're fine. Do you remember the housing crisis? Do you remember how all the rich people got, continued to get rich off of like taking

advantage of people like that aren't in their class? Like, how do you not see this happening in front of your eyes? Chad, they took your house. It wasn't like you had a bad time. They told you it was something else, but they did that. When Chad wins the lottery, when his number comes in, like. It's going to be so embarrassing for us. He's going to be so embarrassing for all of us. We're going to be like, oh, subscribe to the podcast, please, Chad. But yeah, all I'm saying is be kind to people.

And I know that some people are going to be like, well, you talk about people on the internet. Isn't that the same? And I'm like, no, my friend. It's not. Don't need to get much of that. The classic Cody Koza cyber bully stuff. No, I mean, OK, the only time I've gotten it is mostly for my rating TikToker apology videos.

They'll be like, stop using your race as an what do they say? Stop using your race as an opportunity to make fun of little kids. And I'm like, one, I don't even try and make fun of the kids. I don't talk about their appearance. I don't, I try not to do any of that. You let them off very, like, I would say that like you were nowhere.

Yeah, I try not to say anything too offensive or anything because I mean, they're kids at the end of the day. So it's crazy when I see comments like that, but I don't get that a lot, honestly. It's really just like people are kind of like using whatever fits their fits their narrative. But I think that like, you are actually doing these people a favor by I don't know, it's like you're you're you're kind of like laughing with them in a way being like,

these are dumb kids. They're making mistakes. Clearly, why are they putting themselves in the situation? You could have easily just not done the bad thing. And like, there's just so much more toxic commentary and comedy out there that it's weird that people don't take issue with that stuff. And instead take issue with people who are like, actually doing a lot of things in good faith. Like it never, it never tracks with me. So one person asked, and this is a great question to start. Why are you all so fine great question the immortal question right possible no ask my mom and dad i don't know i know i don't know i don't know what to tell you if you could visit any place after rona where would you go

i would say nigeria because i always have a good time when i go is your family from there yeah so that'll be a nice time much time there growing up or no but i went this december i was there from december to january but that was a nice time but yeah jordan where would you go where would you go after aronis maybe my apartment yeah dude i i want to want to roll up big surprise guess who cough cough sorry whoops i know you know where i want to go this has been really on my mind and i think it's just since I left, I guess, for the contrast. I miss SF, man.

I miss San Francisco. Oh, yeah? I miss... I was just chatting with a couple of friends of ours over the last week or so, just having a remote drink chat type thing, just independent little dates with them. And I missed that squad,

like specifically, that when we all worked at Patreon, and no matter what, if you send out like a question in the text thread just like anybody want to go get a drink after this i just always was asalina's the best food in san francisco i miss that i would go to see asalina hey what up girl uh can i have some momok chicken please love you uh little things like that like i'm not really in a vacation mood i kind of just want like comfortable little things that i missed

like i want to go to the restaurants i went to i want to go to the i want to go to the zara i went to not even a different zara like i want to go to the same same shit get back in my rhythm yeah i've always wanted to go to california i've never been oh yeah oh yeah come visit uh when the world is safe give it a break one of the worst places you can go right now i know i like california i feel i feel like jealous of the people who grew up on the west coast because i had to like travel all the way over here and these people like they like got to grow up in this nice little climate i can't do heat so that's why i had to leave the south personally yikes yeah wait is it hot it's hot but not the same way like it's not humid humid. Oh, okay, okay, okay.

Florida was like 100% humidity. You're like swimming through your own sweat. It's not a good time. Yeah. What's something that you, like, if you were to move, I know, I don't imagine you do have plans to do that, but if you were to move, what's one something you think you would just not be able to get

that's a Texas thing? Texas is cheap. I don't know where i would be moving but let's say if i was moving to california i heard it's expensive so i would miss the cheap lifestyle of texas but that's about it yeah that's about it that actually sounds kind of appealing yeah oh it's also like the niceness of people i guess yeah. I miss like Southern charm or whatever. Yeah. So since I've grown up with that,

I don't really know how it is anywhere else. Right. But yeah, I'm assuming I'll miss that a lot. I think I come off as like really polite to people because I grew up in the South, which is nice because I'm not trying to do anything different than like how I was raised. So I guess it's like helped me in life. I know this is an exclusively me question, but this genuinely always makes me angry when i see it especially i saw that i saw the question somebody asks where in england are you from jordan you

sound posh i am not posh i don't sound posh normally i have to articulate myself when i stream or record myself because you fuckers don't know what i'm saying i'm from the cotswolds we don't articulate any consonants like that the way i just said consonants is insane to me like i it's like my tongue hurts when i like push it out of my body but no thanks for taking the swing i guess how about you you sound posh you sound posh that question sounds posh how about that west yorkshire that's the poshest place you can be. In West Yorkshire, born and raised.

On the Cotswolds is where I spent most of my days. All right. Chill out, relax, and playing some cricket. Sorry, now I'm trying to complete the lyric on that song. Playing some cricket, thinking up lyrics. Before we wrap up, what would you say your relationship with your mental health is, if you're comfortable speaking on it? are you talking about my current mental health? No, just like in general, like, life lifelong? Have you always been like a happy person? Or like, it sounds like you come from like a really supportive environment. And so you've

like, got a good community around you. It seems that way. Is that not true? You're shaking your head. I mean, it's good now. But like, I guess, what's it called? The beginning of college wasn't that good for me. Just because I guess the transition of everything. And especially since I wanted to do YouTube. School was getting in the way of that. And then also, I think I didn't do that well my freshman year. And so I was trying to catch up my sophomore year. And it just felt like nothing was going my way.

And so that was a hard time. And I feel like I also wasn't like really religious, like that I was barely going to church. And I felt lost in a way. And then it wasn't until like my senior year of college and I started to really get back finding God, you know? And then, I don't know, I just started posting a little bit more than I was before.

And everything was getting better. Right now I'm good. And everything was getting better. Right now I'm good. Okay, that's great. Yeah. And then the support. That's awesome. Yeah. In terms of support and stuff. At first, my parents really like my family and everything because my grades weren't that good in the beginning. They thought YouTube was a huge distraction. And so it sucked because I didn't have that support. I also didn't have time to film and edit. And I also just wasn't doing good in school. And so it was just a lot, but you know, everything's good, especially since I'm doing it full time. So yeah, yeah, no, that's so exciting. If you know, you were giving advice to your younger self,

maybe freshman year of college when things like aren't feeling good. Is there advice that you would give to that version of you? Don't skip class. But um, and also, it gets better, really, I feel like that sounds cliche. And everyone always says that, but it's so true. No, no. Everything, it always gets better. Always. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm a big believer in that as well. Because like no feeling, even the worst of feelings or the best of feelings is permanent. And that's like helpful to remember. Because like even if you're in the darkest of days, you can know that this this has to pass because no feeling you've ever had in your entire life has lasted forever you know what i mean exactly yeah bet on future you at the very least you'll know more i feel like that's a really good like note to end on yeah what do you think it's very very very zen very very very nice okay courtney thank you so much for joining us like where can the people find you because i they've clearly become fans by now they're chomping at the bit to to follow your

stuff any and everywhere they can where are you at okay um I'm on YouTube Court Reezy Instagram Court Reezy Twitter Court Reezy with an underscore c-o-u-r-t-r-e-e-z-y, Court Reasy. Yes. And if you're a member of her family, you can call her that in person. It's apparently the rule. In fact, you must, in order to remain family, because if you don't call her Court Reasy, you are actually kicked out of the thing. You're a poser, yeah. But that's what she told us backstage.

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