Sad Boyz - Why Does My Feed Hate Women?

Episode Date: September 22, 2023

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Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also. I'm Jarvis. I'm... You got this, bud. Come on. Almost a hundred episodes. Alana, which one am I? George. He's George. George. George, yes.

He's George, and we're joined by a very special guest, Alana Pierce. Hello, thanks for having me. Hi. Thanks for the help with the name. Yeah, anytime. Anytime. by a very special guest alana thanks for having me thanks for the help with the night yeah anytime alana you came here from i would say one of your many jobs several uh for those who don't know alana uh there's lots of places to know you from you are a writer at sony santa monica you are a streamer, YouTuber, podcaster, DJ. Yeah. I'm trying to think of things.

Dog mom. That's my most important job. Right at the bottom. Banjo. Gamer, of course. Yeah. By blood. Yeah.

By obligation. Used to work at Rooster Teeth. Oh, yeah. Before that, I worked at IGN. True. Gamer is kind of like your big... Gamer's my most important, though. That's like being a veteran, right? Yeah. It's a capital G, baby. oh yeah before that i worked at ign true gamer is kind of like your game is my most important veteran right yeah i didn't know

thank you for your god of a rock you i think of the people we've had of our guests i think you were the first person to come here from a meeting that was like a at a company like most of these are freaking yeah it is a funny thing where anytime because like so many of my friends are content creators and youtubers where anytime someone's like hey can you do this thing i'm like is it before 6 p.m yeah they're like okay well then it's my lunch break for the day yeah and ethan will be like how's 2 p.m on this day to make this video in venice like how long is it gonna take he's like four hours i have a job yeah i can't just go to venice with you we really appreciate you making the time and it also allows us to reminisce about our days working at a company because we i'm so glad to be able to do that

for you yeah it's like a skinner book so you get those little little moments of dopamine and success and then ultimately you feel unfulfilled i love my job i have had many jobs i don't love but i mean if i wanted to go full-time content creation i could have done that two years ago right but uh making video games is really cool turns out and i'm very fulfilled and it's like that's so great it's managing the time sucks but that was like gonna be my main question for you because like how yeah um i get that a lot yeah it's very related to this podcast actually like i realized a pretty long time ago that if i'm not being productive so i had depression once and it was a response to a traumatic thing that happened and it was like pretty bad and then the fix was i realize if i

work all the time and I'm constantly feeling productive, I won't get depressed. And then I just got stuck in a loop of like, I must be productive at all times, which is not healthy. The shark dies if it stops swimming. Pretty much. I would not recommend anybody do it.

And it's not a great fix for depression, but it does work for me. So I just then became like obsessively productive. So like, I just, I can't even watch TV. I feel bad if I'm like, but this isn't that's that's relatable i'm sure that's relatable i just hope it stops eventually yeah i think i mean everything does yeah along with everything else actually great stuff i mean i uh in one of our episodes

recently talked about how i was on the way to this is back in my tech days. I was flying to Seattle to interview at Microsoft and I was so nervous about the interview that I was like, well, if the plane goes down, I don't have to do the interview. Technically not wrong. Yeah. And that was comforting to me. Jokes on you, Microsoft. I don't think Bill, I don't think turbulence. You're like, I don't suppose we're going to die yeah ah so yeah hey is there like a child next to you do you think this yeah i'm the only one celebrating turbulence i'm like yes i'm like popping off hey kid do you know about mortality like i and it's like i don't want to make light of something like that but anxiety is real um

yeah so i do not have anxiety and like a total absence of it to a weird degree where i'm not anxious ever about anything unless it's super extreme but i have so many friends who have anxiety yeah and i actually feel like that's part of it is um anxiety i think is really bad for productivity right because then you like you get stuck in like a brain loop like what should i do next yes absolutely and i think there's a lot of like if we're talking about corporate employers and capitalism, a lot of people who don't have a lot of sympathy for that. Like if you don't have anxiety, you're like, I don't care. You're not being productive to the workforce. Including the back of your own brain.

There's a whole thing where it's like, how much can I share with my employer? Because you don't want to scare them off yeah you don't want to make them think that you can't do your job because it can then become a risk depending on how yep understanding your bosses which is just a complete crap shoot and that took me a long time like i only this year like while doing the boxing training to create a class which we were both in yeah um my stepdad was also very very very unwell he's now doing significantly better but he does have terminal cancer and so because he's in australia the time zone i was like up until 3 a.m sometimes like freaking out with my family on the phone and so i for the first time

in my life was like you know what i'm gonna do i'm gonna tell my employer i'm gonna tell them this is happening and tell them i'm stressed out and be like hey some days i'm gonna be really bad in the morning or maybe i'll sleep through an alarm occasionally. And it happened twice. But because I told them, there was no problem. Where I think younger me would have been like, they must never know. I must get fired and take it to the grave. That's a company.

I would much rather they think I'm bad and dumb. That's character development. I felt very proud of myself. And it went well. And everyone was really supportive and understanding. And it's like, as long as I got my work done on time they were like it's okay life happens we don't want to take life away from you like it was great which they're also like they're obliged to not be that way it depends on the power dynamic and like seniority and type of company right there's you know what what could

their answer be legally speaking even in the most cynical scenario say you hated the job you hated the the manager for you to go like yeah i'm actually having extremely traumatic personal experience and as a result i may be less effective no yeah you go not wrong um that doesn't change our q3 goal yeah then what about the quarterly earnings yeah exactly what do we do we need to keep these graphs up and to the right dude what is our job we're so much of that stuff like so many corporations will treat you like the thing you're working on right now is the most important thing in the world and then two months later they're like we've changed strategy and so you work your ass off on something and then it means some other essential domino never with the first one everything is always on fire right it's one of those things

where it's useful to keep this in mind as an employee of a company that the company will ask everything of you yeah or ask as much of it as it can get away with and it uh and still lay you off and still lay you off like at the end of the day they're not like like don't treat like you don't owe them anything even though they like sometimes treat it like uh i've worked at companies where they're like they do the like we're a family here thing nope which is a big red flag or what a weird family they just like we're gonna have to work really hard we're gonna have to you know when your family refuses to help you financially yeah just disappear i'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Dad. Yeah, it's so weird. Yeah, exactly.

It's like we're family. We have laid off the entire team. We killed half of the family. Yeah. Like, wait, why? Well, your brother was doing poorly. Yeah, it's like a- He had a traumatic experience.

In all hands. It's like a meeting, but it's a family reunion. Where you just lay off half the family. It's a family, but it doesn't have nepotism. Yeah. You don't get any benefit from being related that's also a thing is like this definitely happened when i worked at ign again the company i work for now i'm so happy with they treat me so well um but people would work really hard to try and get a promotion for a job they knew was about to be

available and then they just hire some guy oh like the execs would hire some guy they worked with 20 years ago and no one would get promoted like it's such a that is tough balance that like so many people burn themselves out in their early 20s and i totally did too before you realize that that it's like yes still do your job do everything on time don't show up late don't give them your life they will just they'll take it yeah yeah it's like because if if you yeah exactly there is a there is a boundary that you know it i sometimes struggle with this because i'm like is it a privilege to treat it like there's a boundary you know some people need to probably you know yeah if i got fired i could do contact right right so like yes like there's a privilege um like at my last few months at patreon i kept saying this i kept

saying the phrase what are they gonna do fire me like because i was like i am going i'm planning to leave yeah and i gave so much notice ahead of time and so anytime i would like get in my head about something or go i need to do better at this i need to do better at that and was getting really down on myself i would just go what are they gonna do fire me then i get severance you know what i mean like but uh so there there is an a degree to which that is a privilege to consider but it's worth being aware of that uh you know we live and work in a system where your employer can never as an entity empathize with you oh and they're incentivized not to they're incentivized not to many many many industries at many many many many

levels of earning will like gladly turn you into biofuel and just like yeah higher out because in their opinion it is like unskilled labor and experience means nothing. Intent, enthusiasm, that just doesn't matter because it is like, you know, it's a trite like observation or whatever. Like these frigging the man is not on your side. But especially, actually I'm curious about your experience. I was gone over COVID. I was back in the UK. So helping out my family stuff and yeah not having a visa and then i once i came back even though i love it here and it's where i my life is and i always want it to be the one really

shitty thing that i noticed is like there's just this undercoat the uk sucks ideologically and politically it's like it's been it's been a conservative very strictly conservative country now for like the majority of my life with a little bit of on and off the nhs is being gutted nurses are being like essentially abused everything is collapsing but it still feels on some level like the goal or the function of the government is to sort of make your life be easy and live well. They're lying. A lot of them,

the powerful people, but they have to like, there'll be so much executive action on the part of the populace. Like when Boris Johnson didn't even need to get legally indicted, his vibes were just so off that he got pushed out. Like you can't be impolite. That's like the one thing you can't do. That was weird.

Because what did he like? He went to a party. He had a party when you're... That's the thing. And then lied about it. Jesus Christ. He's like a psycho racist abuser for generations.

But he speaks like this. It's like, I will keep him in power. He's unspotted. But I'm... I don't have a party. But my place is... But then he used the cutlery inward and to out. He's unspotted. But I'm... I don't have a party. But my place is... But then he used the cutlery inward to out.

So we had him killed. And his hair looks like it's a child's hair. You know what I mean? Notoriously. That's a very specific man. Yeah. You got kid hair. Yeah.

Get him. It's like a mop. Get him. Indict him. Raise him. He's a kid. But if what you're saying is like look i have like a big sad about capitalism once a day like once a day i have this crushing feeling of like ah fuck and i also

it bothers me that i'm so influenced by it which i think is part of the productivity is that i tie my value to my output that's capitalism 101 and i'm a sucker for it i'm clearly like my value is in what work i can do i shouldn't take it as a compliment that people are like how do you get so much done i should be like i should probably reassess my life but i'm like it's true i do do that it's capitalism the u.s especially when i go home and i'm i'm the same it's like we've got plenty of governmental issues but i don't feel like capitalism is running the country it doesn't and then you come here and you're like they just want my fucking money oh my god i need to make more money or I'm going to die. It feels like that manager,

that hypothetical manager we were talking about who was just like, yeah, of course, hey buddy, we're like a family. But ultimately kind of, not so much undermining you as not caring. That feels like global government, like the function of global people in power. The US feels like it's very vocally i mean like i'm

going to i'm going to kill you it's like well but what if i yeah what if i dodge it costs 60k to to like have a kid here baby yeah you pay for an ambulance yeah when i uh it was during covid i came off a motorbike and i had to call an ambulance because i couldn't move and i was fucked up they came and they were like like my i had to recover for like months of my knee my hands were cut open they were like you think you could bike home and i was like no i like a broken kneecap your all your limbs have gone they were like no and they were like listen we're not gonna take you to the hospital unless you really want it broken kneecap came off a fucking motorbike because a it's covered the hospital's a two-way run b they'll just charge you and then tell you

to do the same thing we're telling you to do right now which is go home raise your leg put ice on it and then wrap it so they were like don't use the health care system that you pay for with insurance every month just find someone to take you home and so that's what i did and i was like wow at least they were nice about it because it can cost you like five grand literally every good medical professional in this country is just like they're giving you like mates right i know dude just just just talking about this i had this surgery to get rid of migraines which worked it was amazing um and i got a staph infection uh from one of the the incisions is very small and i now have

this huge scar and they i kept being like, there's clearly something wrong with this thing that I have in my head. It was like this huge gaping hole. It was like weeping. And they were like, seems fine. Change bandages. It's like you have Elden Ring. Just change. It's a Caelid version.

Just change a bandage. And I found out the reason for that was because I went to an urgent care and I was like, they told me three times that i'm fine i kind of feel like i'm maybe not fine i was getting a fever and they the nurse was like if they admit that they gave you staff which they probably did they may have to shut down so they're seeing me knowing i have a serious infection and i'm pretending that i don't and hoping i go to an urgent care. That's crazy. Isn't it crazy? That's crazy. I feel like you left a scalpel in my head. Is it sticking out? No, I don't think so.

You should go to an urgent care. Also, Alana, you are the most bloodied person I know. I feel like more than anyone else, I've seen more of your blood than I have most of mine. And that's because of the incisions that I've made personally. You just keep beating. Sorry about the staff infection. No, but you also got into a car accident recently.

Yeah, I didn't bleed though. It wasn't your fault. I didn't bleed. It's never your fault. You did everything right and they indicted you. You know what? Yeah. I didn't do anything wrong in any of those instances. You did everything right and they indicted you you know what yeah i didn't do anything wrong in any of those instances you did everything right and they infected you yeah the car accident

my only thing is so i got hit by a dude and i didn't even see where he came from right i didn't even know where he came from so when people are like what happened i'm like i got hit and i don't know where the man came from um my thing there is it wasn't my fault but i should have looked every direction possible i should have looked even though the dude ran fault but i should have looked every direction possible i should have looked even though the dude ran a red i should have looked and i regret that i was like i got comfortable or whatever which apparently is like the most common place you get in car accidents is near a place you're familiar that was right next to work right so trusting other drivers to yeah it's like it doesn't matter if you're at a green and they're at a red. Just look every direction every time, especially in L.A.

In L.A., drivers do so much bullshit. And I have developed a new type of road rage where I just go, you're breaking the rules. That's not allowed. You're not supposed to. Methinks you're not allowed to do that. I love how nutty that is. Sir, you're breaking the rules. Sir, you're breaking the rules. Sir, you're breaking the rules.

It's because I got my driver's license two years ago. Oh, no way. So all of the rules are still fresh in my noggin. And the way that I feel the need to express out loud, I'm like, you're endangering others. That's so sweet of you. So the times I've honked, it's like when someone doesn't signal crosses over three lanes of traffic i'm like you're lucky i'm driving defensively you know what i mean like because it really it is infuriating to watch people have disregard for other people's safety yeah i have

friends that have pulled a good number of you know hey you know i live five minutes away i've had four drinks. I have one friend who does that. And we talk about it all the fucking time. How about you walk for 20 minutes? I will get you the Uber. I have one beer and I'm like, I can't drive.

Yeah. There's a $6 service that will take you home. And your car, I don't know if you parked it in the bar. I don't fucking care if it gets towed. It's your life. It's the lives of others. It's someone else's life. Yeah. And like at the, even in the bar i don't care if it gets towed it's your life it's the lives of someone else's life i'm like yeah i'm like at the even in the most selfish have some self-preservation yeah you know

what i mean but and then not to mention that there's other people i mean literally i think if cars if a crash or a uh any kind of like even hitting someone did not damage your own car people it there wouldn't be lights wouldn't matter but they would fly it'd be like f-zero they were just like my other new type of uh road rage was i was in a um a small parking garage and someone in this like mega xl escalade giant fucking car that's like super tall and super wide and doesn't fit in a lane um i was like leaving the the parking garage and they were turning into uh they were turning into it but they needed more clearance from my lane to turn their giant fucking car car too big and

car too big and they honked at me and then the indignity that i got was your car is too big to be on the road your car shouldn't exist it doesn't exist in other countries people yeah yeah it endangers pedestrians because you you're safer at the expense of others i love this i don't think you're allowed to do that i was mad that they honked at me without the honking's very aggressive yeah another rant i have i'll give after this is uh but yeah like and then the other thing is on principle i don't think cars should be that big um but but yeah i want to i want to i want back honking yeah so i want to honk from the back that goes i hear you yeah like someone someone goes uh the light changed honk and it's

like a polite one. Yeah. No, I got it, but there's a pedestrian. Yeah. But I can't go right now and you can't see it. The lighter version of a honk shouldn't be a short honk. Yeah. That's why they have like an emergency and a non-emergency services line.

It shouldn't just be like, hey! Yeah. Like they're really quick. It's like we're teaching Dipper to whisper and to bark. Right, he needs two mugs. He loves to whisper and to bark right he needs two months to whisper yeah i saw which you keep trying to tell him yeah i saw recently uh this happens all the time and i always freak out about it because there's so many lanes in la where i always worry that two people are going to merge into each other like from the outside lanes merge into the middle lane together

and it actually happened recently cars merged into each other and hit each other and then stopped and they weren't moving very fast but immediately the guy who was on the right side got out of his car with a fucking baseball bat zero hesitation immediately baseball bat out of his car and i was like oh my god it's happening is it uh racist of me to assume he was italian i literally i saw like a low jersey just like what the fuck come on no he was not italian but it was very exciting he was australian hit my fucking car mate that happened i own one of the five cars in australia they're all mad max vehicles a guy in a gib Gibson suspended on metal legs.

A dude on the back, just swaying. That almost happened to me where, I mean, in my view, I was in the right. And they, once again, it's people who don't signal. Signaling should be muscle memory. Do it every time. I'm so- Do it every time. Don't even think about it.

Yeah, every time. So when people aren't signaling, I'm like, this is normal for you. I love this job. You just drive like this all the time. I'm so. Do it every time. Don't even think about it. Yeah. Every time. So when people aren't signaling, I'm like, this is normal for you. I love this job. You just drive like this all the time. I'm such a fan of like politely angry road rage job. It's so good. I'm such a fucking rule follower and I hate it. And I've always like my whole life, I've been mad that other, I like on principle, I want

to follow all the rules and be successful. Yeah. Or, and even the rules are like decorum, like be nice to people. Right. And, uh, so it's not just like the laws.

Cause that's, I don't, you know, I think that we live in a police state, but, but, uh, the,

yeah. And so, so it's like when people are like, they're breaking, it's like uncool. Like when it's like a dick move, I'm like, you shouldn't karma should

exist immediate karma should exist i literally did the i had my my uber eats got stolen a few days ago within 15 minutes of being left outside i the moment a perfectly acceptable risk happens to me an inconvenience to the boy. I got refunded. I got another order of the thing. The moment something like that happens to me, I turn into a conservative psychopath. I just go like,

we should have everyone microchipped. They should all be jailed. I want to live in mega city one. I'm like, everyone, death penalty only. Cameras in the eyes. Because you didn't get your samos eyes samosas right right your avocado toast cctv on every building in every direction um i respect it well no i don't but yeah but i get it i literally just looking up how easy to get gun today uh can i murder somebody who stole my uber legally murdering allowed in this instance yeah the defense was you offended my sensibilities my maccy d's

but uh was being a real follower an issue for you in school um i was awarded student of the year. By the students? Citizen of the year by my school. Wow. I have it in, there's a, hold on. So you were not bullied for it? When people, okay, this is why I learned to be funny because people would bully me and then I would use humor to insult them back. I'm not crying. That is funny.

Like for example, I used to get made fun of for being smart which weird insult but i'll take the compliment and uh i don't know if i've told this established before one time there was this dude let's name him broderick it's not his name so that's a weird i like i know i wanted to pick something weird because he does have a unique name. Okay. So I like chose a different one. What is it? Can't I? Oh, sorry. So I remember he used to make fun of me for being smart as people did, I guess. Which what do they mean is a nerd?

Yeah, I'm a nerd. And he also was somebody who I remember ate chalk. And so in high school, I ran into him. And he was like, hey Jarvis, you still smart? And he was like hey jarvis you still smart and i was like hey i almost said his real name and i was like hey broderick you still eat chalk you know like that type of thing uh or there was like a football player who went on to go play who went on to play with the miami dolphins who would make fun of me but i was always a big kid and i always felt like i could defend myself so i never got into any physical i wasn't like scrawny so i think that helped i couldn't be stuffed into a locker or a trash can uh but i was annoyed i was

too much of a like nice kid tm yeah do you have the same like gotta achieve in school or is that a post-us thing only um i cared about the subjects so i was not i'm not a rule follower at all like i cared about this i have to be careful with the coffee it's like don't spill the coffee give me the coffee uh i yeah no i got like straight a's um except for the subjects i didn't care about and if i didn't care i didn't care but i like didn't go to school so like i was always very good at english i always knew i wanted to be a writer and so i would do the bare minimum and still get an a and then be like i don't need to go to school so towards like the end of my grade 12 as we call it in australia i just didn't show up that pissed people off like other students were upset about that because they were like she's still getting

a's and she doesn't even fucking show up what's the college culture is it the same i mean uk it's whatever us obliged if you want to be air quote successful because you have to go to college if you want a real life yeah so uh it's which is done probably in the middle like um they have you know seminars about how we should go to university and i did go to university um but like yeah i think it's it's not the way it is in the us which of course it is in the us because it's so profitable they need to get you in debt immediately it's free in australia so they don't have to push that hard because they're not trying to get 20 year olds in debt this country it's a crazy i love being here weirdly it's so good it's yeah it was a really

it shouldn't have worked out for me i think it's an insane decision to put yourself in well i had scholarships and stuff so i was fortunate but um it's crazy what did you study computer science yeah who am i you broke a rule shut the fuck up i think what the the good thing i think the breaking like rule follower thing instead of turning me into a cop uh which i think it could have if i like oh i have a friend who's a cop like she's not an actual cop but she's a cop if i like respected authority too much it would turn me into a cop but in react like what it's turned me into is like uh like i'm like oh the the government's not following the rules it's like

you you should be good to people i No, or these companies are bad. And so it's like, you're not being very nice. You know what I mean? Like, that's what it's like turned into. Which is kind of like saying it to a bank robber. It's like, you're not allowed to point a gun at me. Bang, bang, bang. No, but that even that's a tough moral dilemma.

It's like, do I care that you're robbing Chase Bank? Right. No, exactly. I care about all the people who are being hot-knocked by me. I care about me getting shot. Like, i think i care more about the nuance like i totally understand i while i personally wouldn't make certain decisions like i totally can understand where people are coming from when it comes to like your backs against the wall i mean the people who like steal a loaf of bread to feed their families. I don't give a fuck.

Shut up. Walgreens. Theft is barely a crime. Yeah. Like literally it should be enforced. Unless it's your porch and it's avocado toast. In which case, kill them. Okay.

So first of all, it was loaded fries. So if it was avocado toast. Yeah, of course I'd kill them. I would do the exact same thing. No, I mean, there is a i think theft survival corporate theft barely a crime yeah it should be less pushback against than like seat belts which should be more enforced and signaling and not killing with a car yeah yeah things are out of whack the punishment doesn't fit the crime like you know marijuana and stuff

like that people are still in prison it's insane yeah it all comes back to capitalism yeah prison industrial complex makes so much money this country makes me feel insane the u.s is so good at cultural shit yeah even the history of like why certain drugs are criminalized the way they are is like super like profit motive driven because the threat of hemp as a material yeah I mean I think they even delayed legalizing weed for as long as they did just because they didn't know how to tax it they were like but people already have it

how are we going to make money from it get rid of it yeah it's like people that like when you see a horrible terms of service well like unity for example you make like a horrible terms of service update and it just fucks over your core customer base and not for a moment did you think like oh wait no sorry there's users of this yeah and that is why it could work the way it is or the

way they're suggesting well okay can we talk about the unity thing i feel like we have someone who works in the games industry here so for those who who aren't familiar, Unity is a game engine. It's a very popular game engine. It's been around for a very long time and it's got tons of resources. And for people who are getting into games, going to game jams, you know, things like that. It's like one of the things you start with, you know, a lot, a lot of people have, you know, it's like I went to school with a lot of people who went into games from the technical side, you know, and I saw tons of Unity usage even back when I was in college. Anybody listening or watching

has a game they love that was built in Unity. Absolutely. Pokemon Go is in Unity. Polonaise. It was a big part of the drama I think. Exactly. It's actually how it first got on my radar. What's happening to Pokemon Go? No literally. Is this man bothering you

and so you're not following the rules uh so unity wasn't following the rules by so they have a license uh as of you know most of time they had a license where uh as of most of time it's a great way to be like as of most of time uh It's a great way to be like, as of most of time. Their license, the way that they made money was with revenue share, right? Yeah. So when indie games or AAA games or what have you would use their license. I actually think they didn't even. That's what they should have done.

Unreal has that. No, that's what they should have done. Yeah. Unreal had a 5% revenue share, and then Unity, I think, did a flat fee. Yeah. Maybe revenue share for the problem? They also share a portion of the assets sold on the Unity store, I think.

Yes. Which is a lot. Yeah. And so what matters is that it was somewhat sensible and thousands, if not tens or hundreds of thousands of games were invested in spent years of development on yeah but also not sustainable like their business model across the board needed to change um not ultimately sustainable they also had this really weird thing that's the opposite of unreal where you could pay that's unreal engine not like a phrase the opposite of yeah which is kind of a

metal thing to say the opposite of unreal uh unity had this really strange thing where if you were getting the free version the game will load up and have the unity logo at the start but if you paid you could remove the unity logo from the start like white labeling or whatever yeah but it's weird because it made people think that unity made really bad games unity logos show up are all the ones that didn't pay for it yeah and they're all just like pieces of shit weird choice unreal does the opposite i it's just funny because i know so many games that i love that were built in unity and when that props, it makes me think it's like an Ouya game or something. Or like, this is an asset flip. It's a really weird choice.

Like their system needed to change, but what they did was not ideal. Right, but so their system needed to change, but that's not a concern of any of the users or the customers. You know what I mean? Like when I go to eat at McDonald's, I don't think about the like profit net loss of

like mcdonald's and whether or not their business these nuggets should be more expensive yeah i'm like the dollar menu i don't think that'll stand the test of time um so so uh what they proposed they announced recently that january 1st 2024 which is like three months of heads up, they were going to change the entire revenue model of the Unity game engine and make it on a per download basis. Per install, yeah. Per install. Oh, yeah. So it was per install and not per user account

as they originally wrote it. So it would be like if you downloaded the game on if you downloaded pokemon go on your phone and on your ipad that would be that would be two times that nianta got charged for it yeah 20 cents per install which like one of the worst things about that that it seems insane that they didn't factor in and i think they've walked it back a little bit now is you know how people do review bombing yes like. Like they just go on Metacritic? Yes. You could install a bomb and bankrupt a company in a day.

Yes, exactly. These are such basic considerations. Yeah. Going back to what you're saying, where everyone was like, what in the world were you thinking? Like how did you possibly, and then you find out, hashtag capitalism,

a lot of the main stakeholders in Unity and a lot of the main leadership in Unity. Unity wasn't doing well, unsustainable business model. Stock was on the downturn. Before they make this crazy change, they sell off a bunch of stock. A bunch of them had sold a bunch of stock. Yeah. What's the name of the former EA guy that is now responsible for it? He is Unity. I don't know his name actually.

But yeah, he like basically left EA because his monetization strategies were too aggressive and is now at Unity. Too aggressive for EA. Yeah. That's hilarious. I think the whole,

it seems so insane and it's like, there are a bunch of engineers at Unity who definitely didn't agree with this policy. Yes. Who had heard about it a year ago and were like, absolutely not, this is absurd. We can't do this to people. Yes. Who had heard about it a year ago and were like, absolutely not. This is absurd.

We can't do this to people. Like there are so many bad use cases. But it seems like whoever was in charge kind of did it on the sly. And I actually suspect it's Pokemon Go. Like literally Pokemon Go. The only time when I was a journalist that I was ever,

I had to sign something about insider trading was when I went to Niantic and I saw Pokemon Go early. We had to sign something saying we would not buy stocks in Nintendo because they fucking knew how much money it was gonna make yeah so we had to sign a thing being like not gonna buy nintendo stocks and i was like shit no i really want my nintendo yeah was there any really good idea insider industry murmuring prior because it took nope every dev by jude no one had any idea and like i i like do a podcast every week with a

guy who all his games are in unity and they're being published by Disney at the moment. And it's like, well, technically Disney's problem. Mikey Bith. Yes, he watches the show actually. He was like, I heard about you on the show the other day. And I was like, really? Why? So basically.

Don't listen to that when we said some shit. Bombshell news comes out. Everyone goes, this is a bad idea. How could you possibly think it's even announcing the idea because now most of it's been walked back yes oh they movie passed but again i think they just looked at pokemon go i'm like we need more of that money yeah how do we get that money like we've said this before i don't know if these numbers are accurate but i did hear them cited before that

back in the in 2016 there were like 250 million like users of pokemon go at its peak and then it fell off by a huge percentage but falling off by a huge percentage when you're that big still means tens of millions of active users yeah and so it's still hundreds of millions uh of dollars in revenue if not billions but i think it's like in the high hundreds of millions. Yeah. I'm buying somewhere around that in just coins. Yeah. That's like about my amount of microtransactions.

I want to get those lures, bro. Dude, I'm all about the eggs. Yeah. Egg mode. Because they just had, okay, we're going back to Unity. But they just had an event they just had an event where it was for 10 days 4x catch xp 4x stardust which is a normally for like a community day which is like the premiere outside of go fest the premier type of pokemon

go event that happens regularly it's 3x catch xp 3x stardust and it happens for three hours on a saturday this was more than that for 10 days that's crazy i played so goddamn much and i grinded and so i have people in my discord who are now like i played this game for six years how did you get higher level than me and it's like because i saw my opening and i took it optimize those 10 days yeah exactly speaking of that like not only are you now working in game dev but historically up through now you're also doing so much content creation and career oriented stuff around game play and critique and podcasts are you able to spend any time gaming leisurely yeah i mean i i still make sure i do because i still way prefer playing games off stream versus

on stream so like often i'll be like i should probably stream this and i'm like you said that you hate your fans you don't respect the audience that's exactly what i said i pulled the doja cat yeah fuck them actually unfollow it was you liked ragnarok i was kidding speaking of that doja cat thing though it it reminded me of how twitter isn't real because if you were on twitter you would have been like doja cat just destroyed her career there's no way she's coming back from this and then she puts out a new single number one on billboard i have to like have that conversation with rahul all the time where i can be like people said this on twitter i'm like how many people yeah was it one guy one guy yeah saying something on

twitter but even but even for the room cat it was like the people who run her fan pages and they were like we are your community and doja cat was like fuck you it doesn't mean shit it's wild uh most people don't know who doja cat is and they listen to that's the thing with video games all the time is like that that i try to stress to people so often is like when the last of us part two leaks came out everyone was like this game's not gonna fucking sell this is the worst thing to ever happen and i was like i promise you vast majority of people who own playstations don't even know what naughty dog is they don't fucking know what video game leaks are yeah and everyone's like no they do that's ridiculous if i walked up to majority of playstation owners on the street

and was like do you know what santa monica studio is they'd be like it was somewhere near venice beach like they would have absolutely no idea gaming is so much bigger yeah than like the tiny little sliver of console wars and the same thing applies to like literally any internet drama yeah like it's so small and you can think it's so big by giving someone so much weight for everything they say and you're like doesn't mean shit and it's like the shit like every single time someone gets because it's almost like quality not quantity yeah like oh man this person did slip up and they all these people did call their work and did swat them and that and you're like wow that's really really severe yeah it doesn't you know six people killed osama yeah i'm assuming it's six it is weird how that

happens it's like um someone will like make a bad joke while they're on an airplane and then they get off the airplane and then the next thing you hear is like guy who made airplane jokes burned at the stake and it was like what like is that really what we needed to do did we all need to this random civilian we had to like dox them and like into their whole bloodline. Immediately. Yeah. I wonder if that'll happen to Dr. Shit or whatever. You saw that, right?

The guy that diarrhea through the aisle of his life. Oh, yeah. Devastating. It made me think of school. Like it made me think of the embarrassing shit I would do as a kid that I'm still holding on to. Because every time you shout a plane. You're still holding on to your embarrassing shit? Yeah. Yeah.

That was one of the most embarrassing. That might be the most embarrassing shit. That that is bad you just have a memory you're having like a shower memory like oh i can't believe i did that you did it like on the way back from a conference it's not his fault like he should have maybe just stayed still yeah it's not we can't be mad at that guy. No, but it's just so embarrassing. Like they're probably feeling way worse about it than we can even imagine. Yeah. And I'm like, you know what, buddy? You shot yourself on a plane and it landed and made a natural news.

We've all, we've just never had it happen. It could be worse. Yeah. And having to tell the other people that like, he's going to, you know, like a wedding in Barcelona and they're like, why is, why is Jonathan late? It's like, oh, the plane. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.

Oh, the plane was diverted just like my bowel. One of the wings fell off, I think. The Unity thing, though, is big news. That is a huge deal because basically every dev who's currently on Unity is at risk of their company literally shutting down. It de-incentivizes success. The more downloads you have, the worse off you are

because I think it's a cap of, it starts at $200,000, they start They start charging 20 cents an install. It's also, as far as I'm aware, illegal. There currently is no real way for game devs to track installs. That's why they know sales. They usually don't know installs. So if Unity somehow has this technology

for the first time of any company ever, where they know what people are installing and when. Right, because they said it's like they have some proprietary way of telling. If you do, A, it's not going to pass UK law. There's no way. Like, they're so pro-consumer. There's just absolutely no way.

Yeah, I mean, Apple had to put USB-C ports in iPhones. Exactly. I'm like, yes! If they can get Apple to do stuff, then Unity's got no chance. Yeah, you're welcome. Yeah, it's honestly awesome. That was one of mine. Oh, you did that?

Yeah. Thank you so much come on david cameron he's like i've not been prime minister for so many years but the other part of that is if they actually have that tech i can't imagine them not just using it and selling it yeah because that's like information everyone would want just your pivot that'd be like that would be a viable product yeah like we can get that information now we'd already have that okay it is it's like a baby's idea just like we'll do it for download and be like the thing where we have no data it doesn't stand up to one follow-up question yeah i'm i'm never okay with like even with elon musk with

assuming billionaires are just that stupid right it doesn't sit right with me. They can't be right. Not that stupid. Yeah. Well, I think that you, I think I'm like, okay, well, what is the,

where does the real motivation come from? And it's like greed. Well, I was partly like, what if they put out the worst possible terms so they can walk the terms back and be like, oh, they listened,

but there's still bad terms. Yeah. That was, yeah, that should be, Hey, you're grounded for a year back to, hey, you're grounded for six months. And instead it was like, you're grounded in the ground six feet under, I've killed you.

It's a tough one because like Unity is the one that most people learn in school, right? Like so many devs know Unity and it makes you employable and learning a new engine is actually very hard. Like it's, you should ideally know more than one, but it's really not that simple so like especially if you're making a game yeah you can't just change your engine that's extremely difficult like or a lot more difficult than people think so it's like you can't just like they can be like we're changing this and a whole bunch of people's entire resumes are screwed uh it's like um what's the term extortion yeah what's that term yeah they don't they don't they don't have an option but yeah i don't think they really accounted for just how in a good way spiteful the industry could be yeah it was like i'm i'm not even coming back if you walk this bad yeah well

they and they shouldn't because now you can't trust them i don't know what they do like a pokemon go youtuber do like a oh you really yeah yep yep i did it just once uh and i it was like a doomer take about the unity news and my immediate thought was upon hearing it i was like if this goes through it will end unity there's no shot like and so then they started walking things back like as of that video coming coming out it was already like i was like watching like steven totillo's twitter yeah and it was just like uh update unity's clarified terms update unity now even all their clarifications are dog shit like so far i mean it might be different now because the last statement they released i think was monday night when this goes up it might have changed but they were just like well we're

listening yeah we heard that you're upset you seem confused you seem you seem confused about our turns hi you guys are a bit confused sorry honey you're being hysterical yeah oh baby yeah yeah i think that they will probably have to walk the whole thing back but they're like they're in a position now where nobody can trust them but at the same time what do they care about trust that much when everyone like i said their resumes are valued by unity experience it's really like but i think this could be you know it's kind of crazy to fumble so hard because this could be the inflection point right where you have all of these people who are bought into unity and kind of have to continue using it but people who are students people like technology does shift fast and unreal looking very good right now. Exactly, yeah. That's the thing.

Right as the new Unreal is picking up momentum. It's like everyone's losing mind. Someone's like the CEO secretly, this is all like, okay. I'm paid off by Unreal. I wanna go back to here, I don't wanna think billionaires are this dumb because I know exactly what you mean

and I totally agree to an extent but there is a slippery slope yeah because the other end of that spectrum is like elon musk shuts his dick in a door and someone goes masterful gambit right right right on that tweet like the elon musk one is like also extra tough because it's like how do you keep making so many terrible decisions for this app well that that setup in particular doesn't that just feel like it feels like he's trying to sink it i can't explain it any other way it just smells like a bad manager like that's the most relatable one to date is elon musk just being like i came up with an idea i clearly pushed the uh the team and the rollout to happen too soon

we didn't ab test it and it was done for my pride i have we have i'm sure like getting rid of quote tweets there's just too many of them in a row that everyone's like maybe not a genius did i ever tell you i might have told you that he used to send me memes that's crazy yeah but they were funny as fuck right they were like really good memes he like stole them from a 14 there were a lot of owl memes. What? And then, yeah, like owls. And then when Elden Ring came out, I got a few Elden Ring memes.

God, that's recent. Did you see that? Jesus. There's an article or whatever. Was he CEO when Elden Ring came out? No, he was, it was like when it started. It was pre-Twitter because the last message that I ever sent him or the last time I messaged him back, I gg because i didn't know how bad it would get and then never spoke to him again there's a there was an article

that i think maybe it was a grimes interview where she like explains that when elden ring came out he like didn't want to work and just wanted to play elden ring all the time or something like that yeah you see when he posted that his build his build his trash build ripped him a new one his literal like 10 year old he was over incumbent he was over incumbent

he was playing a challenge run he was running around happy he was slow he was doing the slow roll challenge run that's what people

said he was playing on guitar hero controller yeah they didn't know they didn't know how good I am the uh something about that that I was going to say.

You like him. No. Yeah, you're a huge fan. No. Oh, I was just going to say that his stuff is not as surprising to me because you would always hear rumors. Like one of my roommates worked at Tesla back in like 2015 and stuff. And you would just hear things about him and i i think i started to become a very sus of leaders who were like leading multiple companies at the same time like jack

dorsey had twitter and square and then he basically was like absent fathering twitter because all square was making all the money and twitter was like was and has been stagnant for the past decade like yeah and and so that's why the purchase doesn't even make sense oh i don't think he wanted to buy it well he kind of backed himself into a corner with that where he at some point he he offered such a high price that there was like a fiduciary responsibility from like the board to like accept the thing. And then he tried to get out of it, but there was like a billion dollar kill fee in the term. Like there's a lot of. Was it Virginia or Washington?

State law legally he was obliged to purchase it. There was some situation where he like kind of screwed himself over. I feel like he didn't want it. Where he like legally had to. And then he was like, this was on purpose. and then everybody's like was it what oh and then he brought in linda yaccarino and as the ceo and it's wild yeah it's literally wild i don't i don't know if this is everybody's you know relate uh to this but it does feel like like your drug dealer just won't leave yeah yeah he's like sits down like that's what we're watching oh like a breaking bad i guess yeah we all are doing that together it's a lot and it's

it's like again i find it hard to accept that somebody could just be that dumb like i know they never attribute something to malice which could be attributed to stupidity. And I think that that is correct in most cases. This one, I don't know how you become the richest man. I think you have even less malice because you're a sociopath. One thing that's important to know about Elon is he's super PR.

He's been trying to build this billionaire, playboy, philanthropist image for many decades. And he doesn't actually have many uh actual achievements or inventions no he's just bought stuff yeah he's bought a lot of good stuff except for yeah it was good when he bought it yeah he like he like retrofitted himself into like a founder of tesla and but then a lot of its government paypal uh yeah he was bought into paypal because they bought x which was a company that he had yeah it's literally like it's like if uh he you know he's always pushing yeah for stony tony stark aesthetics and it literally it's like if tony

stark wasn't hot charismatic or made stuff or robert downey jr or iron man he's literally not iron man he's just the start when he's bombing people so it's it's interesting i you know jury's still out on that guy i think maybe he's got uh he can bring it back with a few more memes yeah just steal some more memes like if he steals some memes he sends them to you you send them to us yeah then we broadcast them yeah it's like do you think if he sends you some bad luck brian top text bottom text impact memes it'll turn it all around that's the top tier what about velociraptor i think he might have sent a velociraptor that rocks yeah well he loves philosophy apparently i think there might be one of those in there have you guys seen that clip of uh grime saying that ukraine and uh russia should dig it out in fortnite see i like her jamie pull it up help us out draco oh man

she i mean that and the two of them each getting like uh matching Sword Art online profile pictures are the two most endearing things either of them have ever done. Because it truly, like that is, that's the only funny thing he's ever done. Yeah, that's up there. I don't know, the sink. The sink was really good.

Classic Elon. Let that sink in. And I remember seeing that and being like, what? What's, why did something happen? It wasn't like up to date. Oh my God. And he has to, he just,

how long was he? He's leave that in the lobby. And he, he fucking giggled. Like thinking, he was masturbating. Thinking about how funny I was going to find the sink. He's like,

I'm going to get so many up dudes. Thank you for the Reddit gold stranger. Oh God. I'm remembering why we mentioned you on the podcast by the way and you might not even remember this it was uh uh i don't know if i'll say what the thing was but we we meeting up with eddie and chrissy and a bunch of people for drinks a couple months ago and uh i was just leaving as you arrived sass and i just on the way i was like hey what's up what's up and i just went like i remember me thinks it's time to leave oh yeah you did and you looked physically repulsed and i remember laughing to myself about that

that was like you walked up and you were like i was just in an accident like what and then you were like it was that same in an accident. Like what? And then you were like. It was that same day. Look. And then it was like your destroyed car. Yeah. Oh yeah. And I was like, you seem to walk away from explosions. Like you're just.

Yeah. Well, you didn't want to, you know, you didn't want to have to pay for. I mean, I also like, I was so overworked at that point that I'm also like, again, I should have looked. It's on me. I had it coming. Well, that was going to happen fucking eventually. That kind of feels like a little bit of the ambition flavoring you know what i mean like that's kind of what i said i was like i failed again the dude still ran a red light

as far as we know he's in the wrong in the eyes of the law but i still you can't have something like that happen and not be like if i had done this differently yeah but it could have even been like you know you could have looked at the wrong time like it's like there's things that could have gone wrong yeah they're just like such a it's like a fluke rather than like a character flaw yeah hard not to think about it though it's true um was that like uh i guess yeah that is kind of the feeling that manifests when you're disappointed in something or when you had an ambition that you couldn't meet even if it was never possible in the first place like the goal was never reasonable true i actually don't have a lot of that like i don't really struggle with

feeling like i'm not uh like a failure that doesn't happen very often i just i'm always like as long as i'm always doing something the biggest problem i have is like i don't know which thing to commit to true so i'm always like, which of these things? Obviously my job comes first. But then after that, I'm like, maybe I want to learn to play guitar. I'm like, I should learn to play. But then I have to Twitch. But then I have to make a YouTube video. But then I need to play all these games.

And I'm like, just I'm like, none of them. Like, that's. You know, you. I do think you find ways to relax, though. To give you some credit. I give myself a lot of uh travel and that's when i yeah because i because i feel like oh that was a great way you'll take a big relaxing trip somewhere yeah and i i think that you know for the audience like there is there's some balance

here it's not just all work i think you you're like a work hard play hard type yeah yeah for sure i try to at least like i work usually like 9 a.m to like i don't know this week it's probably been like 9 a.m to like 2 a.m or so um and i always work weekends but then like i'll go away for a full week and be like i mean i still have to do my day job but i just completely stop youtube and twitch and i don't care which is like also a thing that i think is important to bring up is i do think there's value in diversifying especially if you're a content creator yeah like don't put all your eggs in one thing like especially all the shit that's happened to twitter is like a lot of people feel like they've lost value there you should always be like making sure you have different avenues for everything and like don't overwhelm yourself

obviously yeah like if like i'm sure you have people who watch this who want to start doing youtube or whatever it's like also dabble in other things well it's like it's whatever you're aspiring to do even if you're already doing it but especially if you're about to start it is not the thing you will end up doing it's just not how it works you if it were then like you would take one class in everything that's true i'd just be like ah the hablo i've got spanish all done yeah it's true uh before we forget jacob did pull up the grimes thing and the comments are very funny i don't know what the what it was an interview i guess at some event i have no idea it's in ukraine like imagine if russia and ukraine were just like doing it in fortnight

um there would just be it would be a lot less painful i think for everyone it is funny it's a funny thing to say it's so i mean that okay so wait that's actually a perfect example of somebody that like did not diversify their life experience enough yeah where you're you're in the studio and you're doing music whatever setting and then you're just touring and then you're just publicly appearing and then you're just tweeting yeah and then you get lunch with someone yeah it's like a redditor that's what the reddit voice meme is it's like sitting down and being going oh me likey the foodie yeah what the fuck i uh recently was at uh uh conan o'brien podcast thing um and someone asked him a question that was like who are your

favorite and least favorite people to interview? And his favorites were like comedians like Norm Macdonald and like people like Will Ferrell, like people who bring a fun bit rather than just being an interview. He said his least favorite is always this like really particular type of person, which is just a young person who got very successful, very young, and has zero fucking life experience. Like nothing to talk about other than the acting and how hard it is. And they're like, yeah, you know, it was tough when I was 16

and my agent told me I had to dye my hair. And you're just like, holy fuck, you have nothing to share. Like, I think that's such a big thing, even for writers. Like, if you have only ever been a writer, you don't have shit to talk about. Right. And then I sat in my room. You have to live a life worth commenting on.

Like, what am I, Alan Wake? Like, you have to, like, the fact that... I mean, he had some interesting talk about. Right. Yeah. And then I sat in my room. You have to live a life worth commenting on. Like, what am I, Alan Wake? Like, you have to like. I mean, he had some interesting life experiences. That's true. The shit that happened to his wife is like, no, he's just writing about it forever. But like the time that I worked at McDonald's and had to clean up kid vomit is like giving me a perspective that I otherwise wouldn't have. Like you have to have done.

I think it's the same for YouTube. You have to have done other things to have anything interesting to say. Right. Otherwise you're just so out of touch. I think that's- I think that's those, right? That is- The life experience at the very start of something

is the most and then it very- Yeah. I am, I started my YouTube channel when I was 26 and I think that was kind of like important for me because if I had, I've noticed this trend of a lot of people who start really young on youtube and find initial success and then are like this is my thing tend to always gravitate towards the same types of videos you know what i mean where it's like you have your your morgues i don't think it was somebody who's like young

at australian yeah but no no offense yeah maybe keep them in line yeah no but uh you know your morgues your brent riveras uh-huh yeah where it's like it's just kind of like this whole like there's a reason all those kids started copying mr beast just like taking is the stokes twins or whatever i don't know who any of these people i know i i literally because it's like they all have Mr. Beast. Just like taking is the Stokes twins or whatever. I don't know who any of these people are. I know. I literally because

it's like they all have a certain type and a lot of it is let's just do the currently popular trend. Yeah. Because that's

the net. That's the only place we can go. Yeah. I mean I've been doing the same thing on my gaming channel for 10 years literally the exact

same type of video which is not super popular and i know that it's not it doesn't equate to a ton of growth same shit 10 fucking years yeah and i'm still like i'm having a great time that's important doing it over time that's true i have like way different perspectives now that i work in dev than i had when i started out right like it's super different it's evolved over time but it's like i think the only reason i've managed to sustain for 10 years is that i've been like i don't care about the growth i really like talking about video games and i think that's like also a thing that i always say to people who say i mean you're a whole life way more successful youtuber than i am but like it's like people will tell if you're not interested in what you're doing

yeah you have to like what you're doing right otherwise you're gonna hate it and they're gonna be like you fucking hate this like you have to be into the content you make but there is a challenge um for you know when something that's like a hobby becomes a job that it's like a jobby yeah you have you have to like re-add the balance back to your life. And I think that's definitely something I struggled with because as soon as I went full time, the pandemic happened like the next year. That's kind of convenient, unfortunately. Yeah. And it took me extra long because I was like, I was coming off of like burnout from doing two jobs. Like I personally like couldn't really do it for

that long and like I did it for a year and I was like okay I've had enough but then even when I had all the time in the world I had none of the motivation and it was like I am also a person who like needs my schedule to be like packed and that's when I'm like the most productive so I had to find new things to fill my time with and also find a way to balance without like beating myself up about my productivity. Because I think I have that same like thing where I'm like productive means good. And I've been trying to untrain that because it's It's hard dude, again, capitalism. Yeah. And it's just no longer, you know, even to take a, like, even to take an efficiency, like if you look at it from an efficiency standpoint, it's no longer efficient to beat myself up about my productivity.

I need to just rest or I need to just put my focus elsewhere. But be balancing it. I will. I have to. I just spoke to a financial planner this week because I was like listen at a certain point I'm going to have to stop working this hard it's been too long and it's too many fuck now I need a plan for when that happens and I obviously start making less money

and so he was like yeah you probably can't grind forever and I was like no please I don't even have an editor because I never trust anyone so I'm having to do everything myself oh god it's a very funny way of phrasing that I don't trust anyone I do have a podcast editor because I can't balance audio Like, so I'm having to do everything myself. Like, oh God. It's a very funny way of phrasing that.

Well, I've tried, man. I don't trust anyone. So I have a, I do have a podcast editor because I can't balance audio and I love Jackie's great. But for my like own videos, A, everything I make because it's like games media focused has to be up immediately after I film it, which is like a really tough, I can't schedule stuff a week out. It has to be up as soon as possible. Yeah.

But I also tried and every time I get something back, I'm like, I just have to re-edit it so what's the point it's let me tell you uh it is tough and i have been through that personally and i never thought that i would be able to give away pieces of it but i think one thing that's helped well one i was like editing is the most time-consuming thing yeah i really enjoy it though. You doing that. I, yeah, I stopped enjoying it because I used to love like the creative problem solving element. And there are certain types of videos I make where there's no new problems to solve. Yeah, sure. And, uh, and, and for those, I, it doesn't like scratch my brain, but whenever I'm doing something new, then I'm like way more hands-on yeah but

the other thing is i think one thing that i started with was having an assistant editor um and so basically paying someone to like cut up the dialogue of a of a given video so that i could still like make the creative decisions yeah or just like reduce the amount of work that i had to do and then that helps get the foot in the door. Literally take a lot of the most tedious parts of the workflow that let's be honest, we might just like kind of skip and the workflow might just be worse because things aren't efficiently tagged or fuck. I'm not tracking things correctly.

My buckets will fuck. I it's, I mean, sad boys, we edit very early on but the current iteration of sad boys and my channel in particular i've never edited on anything on my channel really because i i knew if i was because we already had someone that would be now two people that are perfect for it i never wanted to touch it because then i'm only going to see what it isn't. True.

It is. That's a good idea. Moment one. It's like, Oh, this is the, the actually we're, we're kind of in too much detail.

We're doing some like working with like a brand graphic design person right now. And we give them mood boards and feedback, but we keep it a little kind of esoteric, like give it a little distance. It's a good way to protect yourself. Yeah. Yeah you know i like you guys know that you can't search sad boys on instagram i know it pisses me off and it's i've talked to instagram's people and they their answer is that it's a tool that they have to like protect people right and i'm like it has a z at the end yeah

like i i understand like the purpose but like i just don't i could you change the username it's just such a good handle yeah it's the same everywhere protect them from one um it when it comes up i think it was like two weeks ago that i looked it um it says like this search is not enabled for mental health reasons or whatever like it like, so people can't like probably glorify sad boys. Can't find out what sad is. Yeah. It's such a bizarre place to, to,

it's such a bizarre place to help in my view. And it's such a bizarre way because if you have a real account, yeah, it says, can we help words? You're searching are often associated with sensitive content boys if you're going through a difficult time we've gathered some resources from experts we hope can help that's so annoying especially for a brand but related to that you're

both boys i've noticed this thing on instagram recently well like i can't use tiktok it melts my brain but i see reels on instagram and they're okay with me because it's not real after real it's like a real and then an image yeah i agree um that's claustrophobic i don't know if this is my perspective because i'm a woman but i feel like comment sections right now fucking hate women it's like everything i see is like a woman dancing on a boat and then the comments are whore attention seeker women tea and i had assumed it would be getting better over time that like we would maybe start liking women more i feel like it's getting worse there are more professional misogynists than the grift is taking people that just hated women into low and making the millionaires and it's there's all this stuff

where like people will interview a woman on the street and be like how much does a guy have to earn and then they selectively pick only pick those ones yeah like this is not what most women are doing why do these videos keep fucking getting well eighty thousand dollars a year that's not enough for you women are so unreasonable their standards are so unfair like um this wedding ring one that i commented on one once where someone was like you know it's got to be like 10k and i commented i don't even remember why but i was like i would not care the valuable writing ring as long as i felt like it was personalized you can be a 10 wedding ring but as long as i felt like you thought about me when you bought it i don't give a fuck yeah and i got dm'd men were so upset that they were like sure you fucking do like so so angry about it. Now I don't know any women,

but that one I saw. Just got real out of hand real fast. Do they not think there are people that feel, that's the weird thing. It's the common is always this. This is why we need racially segregated schools. Sorry. Did you not think there were unlikable black people? Do you just think it was everyone?

You just see one of anyone. Yeah. think there were unlikable black people do you just think it was they were everyone's yeah it's just it's so out of control in a way that i was like holy shit like i really like i i knew sexism was a thing but now no it's becoming it's like such a moment it's it's yeah it's i mean there's a huge market for it because of your andrew tate's right and that's why the videos where they like how much money you have to earn just keep getting views like it's like these people are enjoying consuming content where they hate women i think tate has made a really huge impact his dent is weird because it's the same demographic as the 2010s grifters of a ben shapiro jordan peterson right a dave rubin any of these guys who used they coded professional and they coded themselves as intellectuals true and then now well i think like the andrew tate audiences realize especially the younger ones is that like

you know while a jordan peterson guy has to say like well in fact if you were to look at the data and instead the undertaker doesn't go i'm gonna kill you i'm gonna punch you to space literally like there was i remember back in 2018 i think was probably the last time i made tech videos um i used to talk about a runescape video you made the other day uh very early on in my youtube career i would talk about uh tech stuff uh i was working as a software engineer yeah so i was talking about that stuff and um i remember getting this comment from someone that was like i'm uh a black woman or i like they're like i'm a black girl I'm 16 or 17 or something like that do you think that I would be able to do this career and I when I first saw the comment there

was already a thread of replies and one of the top replies was um unfortunately the IQs for black people are in the lower percentiles. And for women, it's also low. So just based on the combination of that, I don't think it's a good idea. And it was like the well actually like Reddit intellectual where it's like all of this is what you're describing is bunk and fake. Have you heard of pair bonding? No. So there's this theory that the more partners a woman has her ability to bond with the

next one will weaken over time so the more sex a woman has the less she and they're like it's science pair bonding is science like no it's fucking not sex is a zero-sum game you have 200 sexes yeah and then you can't fall in love anymore and i just keep thinking with so many of these things and i think this is fully entertained is all like there's like a woman's over 30 she's used up you don't want her anymore she's not malleable all you're constantly admitting to is wanting to be able to manipulate someone true if a woman's over 30 she has the experience to know she's being treated like shit in theory she's had more partners she understands her own boundaries better and so you're like she's a slut and therefore she won't love me. And you're like, literally, it's like when people are like trying to debate the age of consent.

But they aren't saying, oh, I want to date somebody under X age. What they're saying is like, hey, I'm just playing around. I'm just throwing numbers. Just science. Me personally? I don't. I would never. But peak fertility. Okay, but why do you care about why is this the fight you're having why are you not like if you

want a sample size pick and choose i'm sure you could find some like people of women over 30 you don't like or like there's embarrassing footage of or cringy stuff it just happens to be pretty much always people the same age as whoever is criticizing yeah it's the girls at my school or the girls at my college or my job or my it's just the girls who didn't want to fuck me is really what i think it is yeah which believing that stuff means everyone yeah true ain't nobody want to fuck you it's uh i mean andrew tate and his brother like they had like guides on how to oh yeah like remove a woman from their uh network network basically like manipulate them manipulate them and by by kind of making uh them the only person that they could get any sort of

support from yeah and it's like so gross but that is always feel you always feel that in the subtext of those like manosphere type guys i got a really interesting i wasn't sure i really wanted to talk about this but like somebody wrote this uh long post on my subreddit uh and one of the things that they said it was critical of me um and if you want to go you can read it you can uh but they deleted their account because like no one agreed with them and i kind of felt bad because i didn't see it for like weeks but one of the things they said was um they were like i turned a blind eye when Jarvis and Jordan turned that blackface show into a series or Jarvis's content. I'm sorry, what?

Oh, it's a show called Black White. It's. You did what? Bookmark that. You would love it. Oh, God. The other thing it was like, and they and he makes content out of people who hate women. Why would he do that with so many female fans?

And I'm like, I'm making fun of them. I got that with Andrew Tate too. I made an Andrew Tate video and people were like, why would you spread his word? I'm like, well, okay, I know that I probably have a crossover with the audience he has, to be honest. I probably have some young men. And if I'm being like, don't be like this guy, that's better than just letting him get in that. It's not like I'm not trying to say that I'm have this holier than thou purpose or anything like that. But, uh, I do think in the entertainment landscape, it is valuable to give kind of tools for poking humorous holes in these arguments that these people are making yeah because if you can turn it into entertainment you can figure out something to laugh at then it can it can start to

take the teeth away and um make it seem like young men feel persecuted it's i do think we have failing young men in a number of ways to be honest and the thing is it's very there's a sect of people who will disagree with that and in the sect of people that will say you know these men have everything the patriarchy blah blah which I also understand that side of argument but the entitlement is not justified we are failing young men yes we're failing everyone yeah like materially like there are boys that feel uncared for by society express their emotions their dads are still telling them their goals like most of them are not when they say like i can't get laid and that's not fair they're not really talking about sex because they don't have sex.

What they're talking about is success and like feeling like- And acceptance and validity. Feeling attractive. Yeah. It's completely unacceptable and unreasonable, but these are not like, it's not criticism,

it's the intels are virgins. Like that's the point. They're not criticizing like oh this thing that i love to do i can't do anymore you've just never done it it's so hard to get the idea of being someone that has sex it's so hard to talk about because i think a lot of people uh especially on the left will like laugh at this concept that, you know, like it, cause it's something that the, the right will cry.

Like we're failing our young boys. It's like that meme, that Jordan Peterson meme, but young men. Yeah. But the, like the material reality is that, you know,

there are boys who are lost and they're looking for answers and they find people who speak with a lot of authority yeah that seem to back up their beliefs with evidence yeah they make some shit up yeah or they say it with conviction yeah they say it with conviction i said it very loud so i think i'm right yeah and um and i did karate i think that's what we that trying to create spaces that don't immediately chew away those people. And it is hard, but I think it's like a noble effort. Like I was, okay. Personal experience. I was one of those guys when I was like in high school that was like, I'm just a nice guy.

Like girls don't like me because I'm too nice or something like that I need to be a bad boy or something you know but uh I didn't take it out on anyone it was like more just like I would be depressed about myself like within my in my room and there was kind of like this like fork in the road you know and I've had many guys say that to be honest like many men i know who were like i could have gone hard down that route and it wouldn't have even been that difficult but i just didn't hate women so i didn't go that way i was coin flipped time that i liked my mom i was yeah it's like i was raised by only women in my life it's like i was raised by my mom and I was raised by her sister and I was, you know, raised by my aunt. And like the, they were all good people.

I was like, I don't think hating women is like the answer. But when I shared this in a video about the subreddit True Rate Me, which is a subreddit where incels post photos of women that they've seen on the internet or know in real life and pretend that they're them in order to insult them insult them yeah uh six out of ten overrate um it's so your band also why wouldn't you date me i'd like to and and uh so i talked about this i shared a little bit of this and disproportionately i got so many dms people like i'm in high school i'm a guy i feel like this i have this issue with my self-image how do you fix it yeah and i don't like there's not like a panacea there's not like a silver bullet but it really it's like i'm making entertainment at the end of the day but at the same time i time, if sharing my experience and sharing my worldview through that entertainment is offering some sort of olive branch to people.

For them to not go to Andrew Tate. supporting, you know, uh, the LGBTQ plus like members of our community or the women in, in, in our community, then it's like, everybody can kind of coexist and be, you can coexist together. That's like the, the thread that you're trying to thread. Cause you don't want to make one side angry that you're not going hard enough about these guys, but you don't want to make another side feel uncared for and kind of further, you know, um, it's like in a thumbnail, if you just go like sneaker sucks, then there's going to be some sneaker fans that are like, Oh, this guy's just one of those haters. Sure. And sneaker does suck. And so maybe that's not the angle that I go in at, but, uh, uh, but there's more there's more nuance there's more friend like issues on the fringes that you know we can discuss or talk about and kind of open that

i was part of one of the aoc streams in 2021 2020 i don't remember that i think hasan was helping to put together and um the one i did i'm pretty sure xqc was on as well and so it was like i don't know a bunch of streamers aoc hassan xqc and people were angry at me for doing a stream with xqc who i still like don't really know very much about to be honest um and i asked aoc's reps i was like people are upset about this i don't really know this guy what he's done that people are mad about and they said that i think the idea was like probably in discussion with hasan or i'm not i'm not sure who to assign it to but that they didn't want to just like alienate his audience as well like they were like well if we're doing this and the point is to raise money for these causes because they were charity streams why would we not try to also

get the audience that's like maybe on a like slightly more right fringe into that as well and like be young boys he is the opposite side of the funnel that is saying like hey i'm xqc and i'm hanging out with these people right it's very weird so like you could just exclude him which i think is like what the people who are mad very weird so like you could just exclude him which i think is like what the people who are mad at me wanted and he could have said no but he is like no i'm going to hang out with yeah and they're like we want those people to see that i was like okay yeah i get that like i don't know what decision i would have made if i were the organizer there um especially because the people who are upset with me were like almost entirely people

of color and i was like oh this clearly something has happened that i'm too privileged to be aware of uh literally like if somebody walked up to us while we're sitting here and went like hey guys get a fake game right we're like we're hanging out what do you think we think i'm just fighting for ethics and games from the world it's actually it's very nuanced see that's what the tate guys have freed everyone of is like oh no you don't need a reason yeah oh you don't have to reframe this thing that really doesn't make sense to care about anything you just have to like do planks and like yell at a barista for calling it a venti that's it film them yeah it's a better world you're right it's a it's a it's a weird time online and this is one of those situations where we're like you know a lot of stuff online isn't real a lot of the like things

that people get upset about and yada yada is like not real but i think that this is a very real thing and it shouldn't be ignored because um i remember i don't know if it would be okay for me to share this, but a friend, I'll just say a friend. I was talking to a friend who has kids and they were like, I learned about Andrew Tate, Sneeko, from my kids at the dinner table. Damn. And I'm like, oh, that's scary. Yeah. And it's like, this is happening. And some people will go well what's

the big idea i mean andrew tate just wants men to be confident and it's like that's not the whole that's the dangerous part is he sometimes says things that are like kind of true and that's what like there was something where he was like you know if i go out and it rains that day it's not i'm not allowed to be mad at the universe because i got wet i didn't have the foresight to bring an umbrella and i'm like you know what if you start with that i can see why people are like interesting frame of mind yeah hey you should like you should work out and be healthy that's things that we're all in support of maybe you should improve your quality of life and then he's like it's like it's like the whole it's like look at this horse we've made this beautiful horse

and the horse is uh working out and eating healthy and going to sleep on time come come in the horse beats women yeah oh no inside the horse oh fuck oh fuck yeah it's tough because the gateway makes a lot of sense and then just so quickly escalates and i don't know what the solution is. Like, I really, I don't know. Again, I had always assumed that, like, women aiding shit would get worse. Because I think in my career, it has gotten better. Like, I used to be accused of, like, not even really liking video games at all, playing video games for attention. That happens, like, occasionally, but a lot less often than it used to. Well, you know, people go into game journalism for the money.

Right, exactly. And on all the attention and accolades. Looking for it to pretend to like it funny attention from gamers yeah you want to get you want to get hit on at pax there's so many easier ways to get attention than to make a review of starfield like it doesn't make any sense and uh i remember saying constant shit about like yeah jessica nigri's pretending to like games and i'm like sorry she's spending thousands of dollars and hours to make cosplays to then go to events traveling to those events for attention it's not because there's so many things for attention for whose for this for you what you're getting right it's

also like even basic like even people who don't particularly love attention every human needs attention like that is a human need it's such a weird thing to criticize and it's so often just directed at women in a way that like i don't see men get to choose being attention seekers very often right like a dude posts a shirtless gym photo and no one goes he's just looking for validation yeah but he's just wearing like that tight shirt for looks yeah for women yeah but that has gotten better but i still like more than anything probably on youtube get i don't want to hear a woman talk about video games or a woman doesn't know what she's talking about. I get that like almost every single day.

Like it's so frequent that I'm like, okay, it's improved, but it's still a thing. Whereas now I'm seeing like stuff in reels that like I assume is directed to younger audiences where I'm like, oh, it's maybe is getting worse. And like, I literally don't know what the solution is. Like, because if women talk about it, you get accused of being a professional victim or you get accused of being an attention seeker.

So you can't actually talk about any of the kind of shit that's going on. Yeah. But then if you're silent, it propagates itself. Like, I literally don't know what we're supposed to do. Yeah. Other than be like,

like, at least I feel like women have each other's backs more and more like that is getting better. Like, and at least I feel like women have each other's backs more and more. Like that is getting better. And at least like the, there's at least like we are making fun of these people. There is a counter movement that exists. Because they are comical. It's not, it is very insidious, but there's this super like transparent version of it now. Like instead of dog whistling, it's just yelling.

Big dumb babies. Yeah. A lot of them. I think I also don't know the answers here one thing that i think about especially because there's so many young boys uh on the receiving end of this like um they're the ones consuming this content right yeah they clicked on your thumbnail to say i don't want to watch this yeah and not interesting to me i'll watch it but yeah and i do shut up woman you walked into my house also 40 minutes in i actually know you're wrong about this i think um one thing that i try to remind myself is that a lot of these people are uh young and so their strong opinions weekly held and they're strong opinions, weekly held. And they're very,

they have malleable minds. True. I thought some stupid shit when I was a teenager. Right. And I've now been in the game for like, you know, I think I've been making YouTube videos for almost six years or I think six years as of,

holy shit. Anyway. And over that time, I've now had people who I'll get dms where they're will dm me and the last time they dm me was three years ago and three years was an eternity in their own development i had apologies from people who were like oh my god i just saw the last message that i sent you i'm so sorry i'm 18 now no i was like oh you were a 15 year old boy they're like i oh i don't know what i was saying three months ago or, or three years ago.

And, and they'll also go, um, I, you know, really didn't agree with you about this, that, and the other thing, but I've reflected and, and I'm not doing anything. It's like, I, so in most of the cases I didn't even respond. Yeah. And I think that that is cool. And it also gives me some hope. Some hope. I'm not like carte blanche.

This is, I have all the hope because everyone will change their minds eventually. No, but you might be right that maybe I'm being like too cynical and that I'm like, everyone's fucking doomed, but maybe it's not. I think you're very valid actually. Plus you're always going to have a scope into stuff like that like you're seeing the women hating firsthand yeah and it can be in its direct like when when you get a bad comment like the flavor of it like i can't receive a women hating comment you know what i mean like yeah it's like or if i do it's like when when we collaborate with women or if i have women on my channel the comment

i get is shipping us which is another thing that's annoying yeah but uh but yeah or or being uncharitable to a woman and then not understanding where that's coming from like oh why do you think the woman guest talks too much or is annoying yeah i had that once where uh i got accused of cutting people off too much which i certainly do but i did an insane thing and tallied it because i kept getting you tell me that not the comment yeah i tallied it i got the comments on ign and so i tallied five separate episodes of this show i cut people off the least and it was a recurring comment agreed she does it too much agreed she does it too much alana i just wish you'd let someone finish a sentence i fucking tallied it i did it the least of all four of them they're talking about like the exchange rate right

the exchange rate on woman coin is very low but a woman spoke too much that's the tough thing about it is like we do it all the time on play which listen and i don't care because it's a conversation cutting someone off to like condescend is different and i get it's annoying to listen to that's the problem but it's like just means you're having a comfortable conversation we cut each other off all the time it's a human thing to do like normal people do it and you have to account for the narrative unless your conversation as well like this or if i have a follow-up thought and then i want to genuinely get an opinion on it yeah you don't want to lose the place in that conversation you also don't want somebody to feel i don't know it's very nuanced and i do know that there's a lot of people that just are annoying in general

in life and probably get the feedback of like can you fucking stop doing that and they they're hearing that as like oh never say a word while there's noise from anyone else that's how it works i see yeah a lot of the people who really have the problem aren't the ones who are open to change and learn yeah and it's falling on you know uh non-listening ears it is nice to like i don't know like sometimes i I do want to appreciate how much of difficult things they see are just like poorly delivered or semi invalid or whatever. Attempts at constructive criticism. Whereas those like reels we're talking about is truly, they're trying to get to the person for some reason. Like it's a prank channel or it's like we looked at a

woman until she ran away and they're like coward woman she's so you are so slow at running she's not she's on like the las vegas strip or something you literally can't go anywhere yeah she's like trying to enjoy her night and this man is pestering her with man on the street questions it's like why why won't women just stand up for their own beliefs i'm like this woman is clubbing like he's trying to enjoy her night and a man with a camera is like no miss how much money is enough yeah yeah literally just like taking your airport what are you saying to me i don't understand how many people have you fucked yeah tell me the number if it doesn't matter would tell me. Not that it's like your obligation or anything, but like, do you feel like especially moving into development

in the game development, there is like this, I don't know, like a position of authority. You get to push back on comments. Not that you should have one. Like, well, actually I am allowed to be involved with games because I'm making them. But like, if somebody would just be like, yeah, Jordan's so short and then they meet me. I'm like, but I'm somebody would have just be like yeah jordan's so

short and then they meet me i'm like but i'm not that's it there's not it's like alana doesn't like or know anything about games but she does i think that um most of my audience is actually super respectful and does have respect for what i say like i've cultivated a very good youtube community in my opinion it's when the strangers come in but usually people will defend me like usually someone will be like the fuck are you talking about or like if i ever work with a brand and they post something of me there will always be comments like this girl pretends to know alana pretends to know about video games but there will always be a comment being like are you high out of your mind because the amount of stuff you would have to have tried not to watch to think i don't play video games is like very high like it's just

10 years of content why why am i don't know. Why am I like, I don't like, what would the win be? Specifically to annoy me. Yeah. But there is, um, some really weird stuff with game development specifically. That is just an ongoing YouTube thing where people who have zero experience whatsoever,

have never worked in games, have very strong opinions and say them with absolute authority. And you're like, it's like, I always use this example. It's like listening to somebody who ate some chicken McNuggets talk about why the chef is bad.

Yeah. Or farming. Yeah. Like you think because you played a bunch of video games, you know how they're made. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

And I didn't even know how bad it was until I went from talking about video games professionally at a place like IGN to making them. And I was like was like i was that person i said a bunch of bullshit that i assumed was true because i was like i've spoken to enough and i was wrong about fucking everyone why did anyone listen to me and that's like half of the successful gaming youtube channels are like people who just have zero experience and so there's this really weird culture in gaming specifically where people actually don't want to hear the dev perspective like they'll call me a shill i'll be

like you're an apologist and i'm like i'm really just trying to tell you the truth of the situation but at a certain point i have to be like you don't want to hear it there's nothing i can do about you not wanting to hear it okay like this is for the people who are open to hearing the information everyone else okay to be fair your company also is like and i guess like the extended sony cinematic universe of of uh dev teams is at least as a consumer feels a lot less decentralized than a lot of other ones where like i know names of people involved in the development sure like cory's video of him like reading reviews after the yeah yeah yeah that that that is uh the association would make or like neil drunkman in the case of naughty dog or something like that yep which is humanizing them helps i mean

to some extent it's whether with movie cv games anything it is silly to give all like author value to only a director or only a writer oh totally yeah but it's at least like a step forward whereas i don't know like i am medically dangerously into baldur's gate 3 right now i don't really know larry in studios i like don't really know a lot of names in there and i think to myself a enthusiast but just because i haven't done my due diligence i don't know and i can see someone being like I don't know I wish they would do it more frame rate drop here and they're like yes it's fucking one and a half people yeah yeah I wish I wish there was allowed to be more transparency with devs it would be very nice if people are actually allowed to talk about their work more it's really secret like Nintendo especially like so locked down on

what they do and how they do it that it's like if we could help gamers understand because my biggest beef with like the whole games industry community ecosystem is there's this thing where it's gamers versus game devs versus games media and the perception is they all fucking hate each other really it should be those three against publishers it should be the three of these unified we love video games we all play video games right the suggestion that games media don't play video games is stupid the suggestion games dev don't play video games is stupid gamer replies to all three of those the publishers are the ones who want the money all three of these against those would be way better than this fucking infighting where the rich people making all the money like literally it sucks

exactly what's this shadow of war team called the wb one that got shut down because of they they shadow of war launch was it not just made by wb montreal yes it was all right is that right uh i think it was believe so yeah it's definitely it was when they still had all of the authority over the lord of the rings license yeah but they nemesis system being copyrighted or whatever patented yes and the insane monetization stuff they put in so much of the pushback was like this studio did they forget how to make the game between the last game and this one did they forget him and it's like no i was made by monolith oh of course yeah rp but they no dude do you think they have the choice of a do you think they get the money yeah and part of that is people like well if you don't like microtransactions as a dev

just leave the problem is okay again capitalism is that then everybody just has to leave the whole industry like video games just stop being made that leaving and even voting with your wallet is not actually a solution to any of these problems because like say you don't like microtransactions rant about it all the time be like i'm gonna vote with my wallet you fucking do and you buy them like majority of gamers will buy micro transactions so it doesn't work you can you can flaunt that on twitter all you like but for every single person who's buying everything in fifa ultimate team over and over and over and over again which they keep doing every other company in the industry has to be like why aren't you making as much as ultimate

team we're publicly traded you got to make that on the stock market asap the idea of like you always vote with your fucking wallet and it's not going well they keep losing yeah you keep voting for the wrong shit well the issue is the voting with your wallet most of the time is at least in the online sphere, the capital D discourse shit is not buying things as opposed to engaging with and supporting stuff that you like. It's also the call of duty cycle where they're like, this looks shit. I'm not buying it.

Same thing every year. And then they're like the same people you'll see. They posted that on a forum and then you see that actively playing the next one. Yeah. They're just like, ah, this is,

I'm not playing Vanguard. There's a chick on there. Yeah. Also it's a year later. I'm not buying the new call of duty. I'm still playing Vanguard. there's a chick on there yeah also it's a year later i'm not buying the new call of duty i'm still playing vanguard yeah what are you talking about yeah it's a lot hey alana i'm back i'm on every single video just wanted to remind you that i'm not watching this yeah i would never watch your content i'm skipping before the end so youtube uh now shows you like how long someone's been a subscriber, but I would love if they showed you in the studio.

Like when someone leaves a comment, you can like hover over if they're a subscriber and it tells you how long. Sorry to, as a quick aside, cause I've been wanting to know how to do it for ages. I had this guy who was like harassing me across like a hundred videos and I didn't know until people told me about it because they managed to somehow find his comment history on YouTube. Oh, how do you do that? I don't know how to. Oh, it was

like something where they were like we can see that all your comments on every video about her there's okay i don't know but there is a feature on mobile where when you tap into somebody it will show you some of the recent comments that they've left interesting because i would love to be able to do that in studio because then i'd be like oh i don't give a fuck that would help so much because you can do it on twitch you can like look at someone and i think that would be so useful i wonder i recently had a youtube person dm me and ask me um my opinions about some stuff and i'm gonna send them a message do that one yeah what is the comment history sorry you were saying there's a thing on youtube studio oh uh how long they've been subscribed yes i was just saying i want to know how long someone has watched the current video

because it would be the comment before they leave the comment and then just in total because it would be so funny to see somebody who's like um i'm not watching this and they've watched every video you know what i mean i do love a comment that is like clearly didn't watch the video and i go did you watch this and they're like no but i'm about to like oh i was waiting for my meal to be ready and i'm going to sit down with my family yeah it would it would help i'm gonna like it it would help so much too because people a lot of times are just shouting out in the void yeah and they don't expect to be heard no true and um or yeah and so it would really help i think for creators to understand where people are coming from um but you know so it goes get the perspective wowzers that's a long podcast

stop right now uh thanks so much to alana for joining us this is a very insightful discussion thank you alana um we are going to a very insightful discussion. Thank you, Alana. We are going to continue this insightful discussion and maybe talk a little bit about Pokemon Go. Over on patreon.com slash sadboys with Sad Boys Nights, the premium podcast for our Patreon pals. Wow, that's a lot of P's. Did we normally do that? It was Dipper's fault.

Dipper peed before we recorded a lot it was incredible he did so much a hearty pee more than 40 seconds oh yeah so long

it's the most masculine thing I've ever seen he pulled rank yeah he did oh is that so ow ow ow you should get that checked out

Alana is there anything that you want to plug or talk about let the audience know about yeah i work at sony santa monica studio we make cool video games and then hell yeah outside of that i have various youtube channels and social medias at charlotte it's my name in the middle of charlotte

nobody ever knows how to spell it it's fine i reclick with me like six months ago i get that a lot like no i i love it i love it so much is that one of those uh was game attack 10 years i was 13 all right hey i support it um soul capture supports you in this uh we end every episode of sad boys with a particular phrase we love you and we're sorry boom um i just wanted to talk about you doing an american accent in this you're you're real or whatever that you did. Which one do you want? I have several. Oh, oh, my God.

Like, I can do a lot of them. Oh, that's so a racist man. Well, I don't know about that. But I don't know why my Australian sounds like it's fucking terrible. But I love that you're attempting. Go to rich for me.