Sardonicast - Sardonicast #09: Chris Stuckmann, Mommy

Episode Date: June 7, 2018

Now Chris say something? Yeah Okay, perfect Good nice That's the kind of attitude we like over here I mean that's the realistic me so Everything's a lie Yeah, it's a whole facade

I guess this is a good way to start the podcast We're all dying Here's the intro Wow Sardonicast great movies keep it up Proud of you Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. That's a good one. Stolen from the H-3.

How's it going, everybody? We're SardanaCast. I'm Adam from your movie stinks.com. I'm Ralph from YouTube.com slash Ralph the movie maker. And I'm Alex from, I hear everything. Why are you saying and? There's one more person here. You can still say and.

You can say and. No, that's grammatically incorrect, to say and and then and after. Well, what if we were done listing the main cast and then we were going to introduce our special guest? That's true. You had no idea what was going to happen. I stand corrected. Go ahead. Who's our special guest?

My name's Chris Stuckman and I turned my last name into a dumb catchphrase. Nice. Get stuckman high. What prompted you to do that? What does it mean to get stuckmanized? You know, Honestly, it was like, I don't know, like fucking 2011. And I was doing, there was this old web show called this old website called BlogTV where you could do a live web streams.

I remember that. And like fans could come and see you and stuff. People were talking about like how I should have a catchphrase. And this was like when I had, you know, I was under 100,000 subs, I think at that time. And I was like, well, here's like six stupid ones. And it was a poll. And I included Stuckman. and like get stuffed and stuck you and all these stupid things and and they voted for it they

voted they were like suponize is our favorite and so I was like you know what I'm just going to use it so I honestly like my viewers at the time voted and I picked the one they chose and it's it's sort of quote unquote stuck ever since then and I've always wanted to like I think every single year I feel like changing it more and more because I I I want to kill myself every time I say But no, that's a cute little story behind it. That makes it charming, actually. I like it more now. It's a good thing that you didn't go with Get Stucked

because at this year it would sound like Get Cucked. Oh, no. It sounds too similar. Yeah, it would. Good thing that that's not it. It's true. When did you start the YouTube's? 2009, back in the day, man.

I mean, this August it'll be nine years. sort of terrifying actually wow yeah and you got a million subs way more I guess yeah I do how's that pressure I can't handle 400,000 I'm like fucking freaking out I don't know what to do anymore I was talking to my friend the other day and we had just seen solo at the screening and we were both like man that was really average and we were like don't you remember don't you miss that time where you could just go to a movie have an opinion and then just go home and not care.

Yep. And now it's like you have to tell everyone. You have to make sure that you come across as well as you can in the video or that you are being yourself while also entertaining while also being honest. Because if you're too honest, then you're just a hater. If you're not honest enough, you're a shill. So it's like, I miss those days where you could just like go to the theaters, have fun, watch a good movie or a bad movie.

and then just go to work the next day, not caring. Yeah. I agree with you, although I do find that there is a hidden benefit to that for myself personally because it helps me kind of be able to properly phrase and understand my own opinions on a film. Sometimes if I just think about it for a while, then I'm like, oh, okay, and it starts to form itself better, and I start to understand more why about why I feel the way I do about certain aspects of the movie. Yeah, but when you're an up-and-comer, you don't have to worry about anything you say. Like, it can be totally incorrect, but you're doing it for fun.

But as you get a bigger audience, you have to start, like, watching your words carefully because they actually matter and people listen to them. So it makes it less fun as a whole. Yeah. And more like work. But yeah, I get what both you were saying. I psychoanalyze pretty much everything, like every, if I say an actor's name that's a more difficult name, especially if I'm reviewing a foreign film, I start watching like TIF interviews

or like one of the announcer has to like announce them to like make sure I say their name right. Yeah. If you're a print critic, you don't have to worry about that. You just copy the copy and paste their name from IMDB. You have to like make sure you pronounce the name correctly or you have to make some big show of it to say like, oh, well, I'm not going to try to butcher this person's name because it's too hard. Sorry. There's so many little factors you have to work into once you do have a level of success

to not just make or craft an entertaining video or review. You have to also, like, factor in all these little things to make sure that they're not psychoanalyzing, you know, everything you could possibly say incorrectly. Our lives are so hard. I know, I know. I'm just going to go work with that. So people don't have food in this world. We're complaining about fucking making.

Reviews on the internet In reality Ralph I totally agree with you I am happy It's just that it's fun to get together with like like minded people and just rant about like random YouTube BS The struggles of YouTube. I agree I also Often look up how names are pronounced and sometimes the people who introduce them in interviews have no fucking idea

How to do it either and they just kind of wing it and go with it and hope and pray Or just pretend like they didn't do anything wrong. Just say it with confidence. And for the director of arrival, Dennis Villeneueva. That's what I read it. With him. Now, correct me.

Is it Denis Villene Villene? Yes. Denny. Okay, great. Veal, as in like, Veal, like, baby cow. And then Nev as in... Great. Okay.

So, like, what happened was... When I first reviewed, I think it was prisoners. I said... I don't remember what I said. But I think I said I'm not going to try it. Or maybe I did try it. I don't remember that was like 2013. And I had a really nice lady from Canada.

Send me a private video back when you could do that. Nice. And it was just like, hey, I'm a big fan. This is how you pronounce his name. And she said it like 10 times in a row just for me. That's weird. Yeah, I was like, well, now I know how to do it. Yeah, sometimes I still have no fucking idea.

Fans are weird. Have you ever got nude pictures from fans? Oh yeah, oh yeah I'm just curious because I don't think I'm the only one. Do you two get it too, Adam and Alex? On Snapchat, yeah. I don't have a Snapchat. Yeah, it got to the point where I can recognize it before I even open it now,

so I just delete it instantly. Oh, yeah? Okay. I'd rather not have it scarred into my brain. I don't get that often at all. Maybe it's because they know it wouldn't really phase me. Yeah. I can't, yeah, I can't think of a time.

If you make it clear that something bothers you, then people will do it, you know. Yeah, the first time I ever got one, I was like, what? Like, I was single still, so I was like, what's this all about? And I clicked on it and I was like, okay, that's obviously not even the person. That's just porn. And then like, you know, every once in a while now if I get something, obviously now, it's like background noise. I barely even notice. It's just like an instant delete and I'm on with my day.

Yeah, I just think it's funny. I get a little chuckle out of it and then. It is fine. I've been asked to give them nudes before. That's happened a few times. Oh, really? Yeah. That's common practice, isn't it?

Interesting. Have you ever been asked to fulfill anyone's fetish? Yeah. A few times me too me too yeah well strangers or somebody asked for like pictures of the souls of my feet and I was like okay and I did it Really? It's like it's like not even nudity to me you made their whole night people see my feet on the beach You know how could I be ashamed of that I don't give a shit it's a small thing I can do for somebody else Clearly made his whole day just to get them off. Thank you. Yeah, I appreciate those pictures you sent Adam Someone asked me to send him like a five minutes

video of me staring into the screen crossing my eyes. Very specific. Because they have a cross-eye fetish. What? That's their fetish, okay. Yeah, like, I looked it up and it's totally real. Like, there's whole videos of it, like, of people just crossing their eyes. Yeah, there's a fetish for everything.

Yeah, there is. I had to, um, I'm doing a 50 Shades of Grey Review, all three of them, so I had to look up, like, some really sick porn to just compare it to. Like, oh, look how much better internet porn is. And I found this thing called teradactal porn Where it's guys dressed up in terra-octal suits Having sex with a woman And I'm like

What? Whose fetish is this? This must be like eight people On the fucking planet And there's a whole genre of porn Just dedicated to them I've never heard of that Yeah

This conversation just went off the rails But I know I'm very compelled to just turn off Discord right now And just start looking at that Yeah I think I think I think You guys want to talk about a film

Okay, yeah fine we could yeah we got a lot of I don't know if you guys noticed these comments at all but people were comparing our reviews for Deadpool 2 and being like man they're gonna really duke it out on the next

episode of Sardionicast but our readings weren't that different it was like between what a 5 and a what was yours stuckman I think yours was yours was the highest it was Ralphs a B a 5 and a B and what B is like equivalent to like a 7 or something like a 6.5

yeah it's like it's like a 6.5 yeah The lowest was a five. I gave it a six. Ralph, you gave it what? Like a seven, I guess.

Yeah, I mean, we didn't... And we're not going to argue with each other over that shit. Yeah, it's dead point. What is like, oh,

you didn't find it funny? That's it. Yeah. That's about where it starts and ends. What, you didn't like the action sequences? Are you insane? What's wrong with you?

You call yourself a critic? You're clearly paid by Disney or Fox. Oh, yeah. There are a few people that, thought that I didn't notice the choir singing holy shit balls

because I mentioned the sound the composition and said that it wasn't all that impressive and although I did forget about that part when I was recording that part of my review I still don't find it all that special I feel like that's been done many many of times before

that's been done in like drawn together it was done in that beer commercial that was really popular on YouTube I found it special because it didn't draw any attention to itself. It was just kind of thing in the background and you picked up on it like later on. That's kind of cute. Yeah, it played in the little shuncle. I like that. By itself in the end credits too. That's where I noticed right in the credits. Really in the credits? I noticed it's just like in some random action. I'm like they're saying holy shitballs. That's cute. Yeah, it's all right. It

wasn't that special. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. Like I was a big fan of the first film because it felt like it came out at the right time like it it came out in the midst of all this uh you know people are still today talking about superhero fatigue but like when deadpool when deadpool came out a lot of people that's kind of like when the conversations were starting like okay we've had avengers and now we're having the dc universe and now we have the fantastic four and all this stuff and and deadpool was just like the great antidote to that where you could just watch a movie where someone literally makes fun of that while also and well also being that so i mean I don't know. It worked for me. I've always liked the character in the comics, and I thought they did a great representation of it after having seen like the butchery they did to him in the origins shit fest.

Oh, yeah. That little nod at the end. With this one, I definitely didn't like it quite as much as the first. I know that the director Tim Miller from the first film had some issues with the direction they were taking this and he left the project because of arguing or whatever, you know, whatever they said in the news videos that they made. mate. And so, I don't know. I wasn't, I didn't like it as much as the first. I didn't think it's had like the same vitality the first one had. Obviously, it's not going to be as shocking or as surprising the second time around just like with any film like Deadpool when you make a sequel. But it was still an entertaining film. The character still felt true to himself, true to his roots. And I guess I didn't really like the villains because they were like mini

and they kept shifting. Yeah, it was kind of like, I don't know, side quest villain sort of thing. It didn't help that they repeated half of the jokes from the first one. Do you notice that? Yeah, but they did them differently enough to where I thought it was cute. Well, like I didn't

call back. I didn't have any of those issues. See, the thing is, I agree with you, Chris, that the impact is kind of dulled now because this is the second one and it's not as relevant anymore. But I think it's just a better made movie as a whole than the first one, which is why I liked it more. It's everything I wanted the first one to be. Like just done straight out. For a Deadpool movie, I don't really see how you can do

anything better for me because I thought it was hilarious and that's all I wanted it to be. And it was fun. Was Logan already set to be rated R before the first Deadpool was released or did you think that that had a contribution towards that decision? Definitely. Yeah. They did. There's even a joke in the beginning of Deadpool, too, like the very first scene, Wade Wilson, he's like, first, Wolvey rides my coattails with the R rating, then he has to go and fucking die. Yeah.

I love that. I love that there's this whole rivalry in the whole movie where, like, Deadpool's trying to outdo Wolverine and making his film, like, more dramatic and sad at the end. Yeah, I do like the meta references in the second film in particular, just the fact that it keeps reminding you it's a movie and talks about its box office success and shit like that yeah it's kind of funny to me um does anybody remember when uh the first film was uh announced and set to be released and there was an online petition uh for for a pg 13 rated dead bull so some little stupid kid could see it does anybody remember that oh yeah i don't remember that at all it was

It was very much popularized by another YouTube critic that I'm not going to name because I don't want people to bash her. But it was one of those things where I was just like, this is a, you don't understand anything about why this is important for it to be R rated. Like, why, if the little kid can only see the movie if it's PG-13, then either the mom should be like, okay, it's cool. You can watch this rated R film with me, which you're legally allowed to do. there's no issue there or just wait until you're older fuck off that's part of the joke that's what makes it funny because it's not like it's not just vulgar humor

it's vulgar humor in a superhero movie which is what makes it funny for me anyway yeah fuck that kid like or that kid could could do what I did when I was not allowed to watch rated ours like when I was like 10 I waited for them to come on the TV and they were edited for content

yeah that too but just sneak in the theater that's what I did wait two years and watch it when it's on FX because it's on FX every day now anyway. Yeah, exactly. There's no, I don't understand the whole concept of trying to petition Fox to change the film and make a separate cut and have it play in what twice as many theaters or half as many for the R-rated one or whatever.

They should have released it and like at Walmart, just like a Walmart exclusive Blu-ray and it was just called, it's called like the cut for that kid. I should have just fucking swept in and be like kid I will make a fan edit for you and just cut out half the movie yeah and just mail him a copy yeah there we go we have a PG 13 cut because Alex I don't think you like the movie right or you were okay I really didn't no so I want to argue with five let me let me explain my experience of how it went down and this might be a cultural thing, okay? Yeah, I was thinking of too. I roll up to Deadpool 2.

It's a relatively busy theater, got people around me. Film starts, just silence. And the film ends, like, and there's just, like, one little minor chuckle through the whole thing. I think that is kind of part of it. Like, yeah. I don't know.

Like, you could tell that the audiences kind of enjoyed it, like, a bit, but... Yeah, but nothing. Even when, like, there were a couple times I wanted to laugh out loud. It was like, God, am I going to embarrass myself here? It was really weird. It couldn't have been, like, as good as your experience

watching the emoji movie with the crowd. Yeah. Weren't they laughing a lot? Yeah, they were, actually, more than Deadpool Tee. Or the Deadpool. I saw I have the worst experiences in the cinema. I hear that British humor is very different. And from the media I've seen.

Yeah, I think that's part of why it just didn't jail with me. I like much more dry humor And I like the jokes to be I was actually I was in the shower Trying to think about what it was I don't particularly like about These Deadpool movies I like the first one more

But I think this I think I boiled it down to something along these lines Of I was thinking about comedies Where I really like the humor in it And I think it comes down to the characters Instead of rattling off jokes nonstop their character in and of themselves is what's funny. So think of something like the Big Lebowski, right?

Yeah. All those characters, they're not streaming off jokes nonstop. The characters are funny, and them interacting is what's funny. Deadpool isn't exactly subtle when it comes to its humor. Like, there's a couple subtle jokes here and there, but, I mean, the overall humorous aspect is pretty straightforward, you know? To me, he literally turns to the camera and, like, talks to, to us.

Did I leave the oven on in the middle of a fight? I didn't find that very much. And that was in the trailer. Yeah, there's little jokes like that that don't work throughout the whole thing. Yeah. Yeah, I thought half of the jokes worked and half of the jokes didn't. It was just annoying me how I wish it was either more absurd or took itself more seriously and used that to be funny.

Yeah. One thing that I will say about it is that it kind of wants to be two things at once. You know, it could go into. full force, meta, humor, nothing makes sense,

this movie is a joke sort of thing, but at the same time, it also tries to have the whole,

you know, cliched, serious superhero aspect to it as well. Yeah. And in the same sense,

so does Guardians of the Galaxy at points too. You know, it tries to have both when I wish, you know, it would appeal

to me more if it just didn't even try to have the more standardized stereotypical elements, which is why I love black dynamite.

The whole thing is a fucking joke. You know, Kung Pow, the whole thing's a fucking joke. You know, even if we're not talking about parody films, there's some movies like, smiley face, the whole thing's a fucking joke. I like movies like that. Yeah, sure. There's just this sort of arrogance, I guess, is the word I would describe where it was like, look, we're doing the same things other superheroes movies do,

but it's bad when they do it, but we're aware that we're doing it, which means it's okay and funny. Yeah. Like they point out look this is bad writing Oh I hate that line It's like well it's still bad writing But then I don't think it would work as a superhero movie as a whole If there were no stakes

And that's why I find these the serious elements interesting In both the Deadpool movies is that It actually takes the serious stuff seriously Which I do like and it's like I think it's funny because it's just a straightforward superhero movie With this one character in it That's completely self-aware of how fucking dumb the entire genre is And just constantly pokes fun at the street

of the story and how like you know greedy at corporate foxes and all that stuff surrounding the movie that's why I find it funny I don't I don't want it to reinvent the wheel I just enjoy the better humor in it I also feel like

I guess if it did actually go super far in that direction it would be very difficult for it to connect itself with the rest of the Marvel universe and it's kind of trying to do that in a way like who knows what the fuck's going to happen now that Disney owns Fox.

Are they going to try to make Deadpool a part of the MCU? What's going to happen there? I don't know. What do you think? That's the big question really is how can you? How can they would have to censor him in some way or they would have to. Yeah. Like I think just from like a pure rating aesthetic, he fits more in with like the Netflix

Marvel universe that because they're all very violent and like rated mature and stuff than he does with the feature films. So I don't really know how they could do that. I think I want them to stay separate. That's just me. I mean, you're going to get your people who want to see 20 people on the screen at the same time blowing things up. But I just want to see like the Deadpool movies just be their own thing kind of inclusive but separate at the same time. Yeah, that's why I find it fun.

Because it's just its own little thing off to the side that's not connected to anything. It's just they're good self-contained movies. Would you guys like to see I was thinking about like You know the way airplane Parody is just the ridiculous nature of those Those kinds of films I would like to see Deadpool attempt something like that

You know where it's just ridiculous absurd And just fully embraces what it is Instead of still doing what it is But just being self-aware about it I think it's just the self-awareness that gets me the most I would like that too It's like 80% of the way there I do think there's some serious stuff that doesn't work.

But then there's like the action scene in the middle of the movie where just collateral damage, just like a fuck ton of stuff is just destroyed and they crash in the cars constantly. And that's making fun of like the DC movies where they just cause tons of collateral damage and there's no consequences for it. I love stuff like that.

I would like something like that too, but I think this is kind of a careful what you wish for scenario because it might just be directed by Friedberg and Seltzer. Oh my goodness. Yeah, the best spoof directors. Are they making movies still? Yeah. They made that money.

Technically. I think they are, but I feel like a lot of people were like, hey, these people make terrible shit films, and then it sort of started to get around, so they're making less. I don't know. The title of their upcoming film is called Star Worlds Episode XXXIVE equals MCS to the Force Awakens, the last Jedi who went rogue. That's the title of their next film. You get it, it's parodying Star Wars, huh? Yeah. I got the joke.

I understand that reference. To back off what you guys were saying about how you wish Deadpool would be more irreverent and insane. I feel like if they allow him to keep that time travel device that he has at the end of Deadpool 2, where he, in the end credits, he goes back in time, that would make for a really, interesting Deadpool 3 if they let him do all kinds of things with that throughout the entire film like it would just make the entire movie absolutely insane i know um i guess in the original script for Deadpool 2 they cut it out though this and again my friend who lives in l.A. he told me this so they take it with a grain of salt there was a scene when he gets the uh the time travel device where

he goes back prior to nazi germany and he finds baby hitler in a crib And he thinks about it for a second. He's like, this is a toughie. And then he just unloads bullets into the crib. That's what my first called me. Yeah, okay. I've never heard that. That's great.

Yeah, it was, apparently it was supposed to be like one of the end credits sequences. Okay. Because he did a lot of going back in time and killing then. But apparently they just didn't want to end the movie on killing a baby. But yeah, I just heard this from like that. Why not? Oh, come on. I don't know how accurate this is.

I heard this from my friend too. It's maybe Hitler. You think Disney will allow it now? Right. I would just, I hope he has that device in the third one because it would make it just absolutely insanity. He time travels quite a bit in the comics too. I haven't read all of them.

I've read some of them, but that would be a really great addition to the movie to just make it even more nuts. I completely agree with you. Here's a question for you. Because I know you like comics. I'm not a huge comic person. What's your favorite? favorite comic um most let's see probably dare devils Frank

Frank Miller's dare devil run those are my my favorites they're dark they're violent they're bloody they're just there's no hope in them at all like there isn't there's barely even like a wink to what could be fun in them but they don't it doesn't come off depressing or dower it just comes off natural and I've always loved his his art style too. I feel like he's completely unique in that. There's there's no other artists who who draws the way he does. But when it comes to comics like I'm not an authority. I don't consider myself an authority. I have like in my basement I have a shelf, one shelf with graphic novels and that's it. And I've read a lot of those. But like I don't go to the comic shop

and read every issue every week or something. I haven't read a new comic in a very long time. I just, I went through like a phase in my teenage years. I read a whole bunch for fun. I would rent them from the library because I had like no money at all and just read a whole bunch of them. And so I've always appreciated them. I think that's probably why I like comic book movies more probably than you guys too, just because I tend to see these stories I read coming to life. Yeah.

But it also makes me more judgmental of them too since I know the source and I tend to look at the source more. And so like for instance, with Deadpool up too, I was like, it's good. It was fine. It's a B and you know people oh my god. It's perfect. That's an A you're wrong and I'm like okay, whatever It's like have a nice day. I guess we didn't really talk about this in the episode where we were talking about Infinity War But a friend told me that in the comics, Thanos had a completely different motivation Yeah, he is obsessed with death And he's trying to basically like Yeah, he's trying to like court death. I think yeah, he's trying to like court death. I think

It's a lady I don't know I mean I guess Like cinematically It probably makes more sense The way they did it But just logistically Trying to understand the character

I feel like it makes more sense for him To be you know Trying to get laid than just Yeah I mean That makes more sense to me I don't know His logic was fine

In that movie You could expand the universe by two I do like Deadpool 2 more than Infinity War Am I alone in that thinking that Deadpool 2 is better? Yes. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah, I like Infinity War a bit more. Really? All right. Yeah. I mean, I liked it, but... I like it significantly more. I thought everything about it was better than Deadpool's.

Wow. Okay. Not one thing I can think of. I even like the humor more in Infinity War. Yeah, that I can't agree with you. I think Infinity War is my favorite Marvel movie. Really? Yeah.

Okay. I was thinking about it. Guardians? Well, so like... The Guardians ones, right? Guardians and Homecoming. were the only ones that I had rated a seven and now, like,

I already said that there's sixes now. And out of all of the Marvel movies I can think of, there's not a single one that's begging me to watch it again. Like, I'm thinking like, you know, I could revisit Homecoming. I could revisit Guardians, but I don't want to. There's nothing about it that makes me feel like I'm going to get something more out of a second watch.

And there's nothing about my first watch that was so great that makes me want to see it again, sort of thing. Whereas Infinity War, I could watch it again. I liked what I was feeling in that movie. I liked a decent amount about it. I did watch it again. I actually liked it more the second time. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Because on the first time, it was just so much to take in and it was just constantly happening and, you know, like these huge scene after huge scene, it never felt like it slowed down. And I kind of felt like it was a detriment to the film the first time I saw it because I was just kind of on overload when I left theater and I went and saw it again like a couple days later and just it flowed really nicely and

I was able to kind of relax a little bit and not care about analyzing everything and you know making sure everything that's one of the things about first viewings with these big movies you're you're carefully watching everything listening trying to make sure you don't miss anything and it's nice on the second viewing to be like I'm just going to have fun and watch this movie in regards to like favorite Marvel movies I don't have a favorite but I can tell you the one that has the rewatchability for me over the past I know it's only been a not even quite a year but I've seen Thor Ragnarok more times than most because it just feels it doesn't really feel like it fits in with the rest which is one of the things I like one of the things I like about it it was a

complete turnaround for the Thor character and it wasn't like I mean I don't even feel like ever watching the first two Thor is literally ever again yeah I don't feel like watching him for the first time you shouldn't now that I've seen that version of him the other the other two just I don't even want to look at it so yeah it's and Tyco with Titi I actually got to meet him this year and he was super super fucking cool that's dope yeah like it was at the Critics Choice Awards I got to go for like the first time I asked him how he balances making like this this giant movie with like his other films he's made that are considerably smaller, you know, like hunt for the

wilder people or whatever. And he just looks at me. He put his hand on my shoulder and he said, make one for you, make one for them. And I was like, that's a good way to look at it. You know, like you work hard on something that you know you want to create for yourself that feels personal to you, that you feel like you have to get out of your system. But then you also have to pay your bills and you have to, you know, support your family or whatever. So it was a good way to look at it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I've always kind of felt that way. especially when considering the whole fiasco with Josh Trank and Fantforstic. Because, I mean, he was thrown a fucking fit over not having all the creative control he wanted,

despite working on a pre-existing IP that is a superhero movie for Fox, and he was bitching about not having full creative control. But all he's thinking is just like, just bite the bullet. You signed on to this project. make the thing that they want you to make and then make the movie you want to make after you know if you if you continue this and you make something like half decent

and don't just throw the entire project down the shitter you can do whatever you want just have some patience but apparently he didn't want to do that yeah some directors are very much so control freaks I've met a lot that I mean I'm not going to name him and you wouldn't even know him anyway

he's a very small time like indie director who I've met recently. I went to the set. It was shooting in Ohio, so I was able to go. And I went because I'm friends with a cinematographer. It's the same cinematographer that did my short film. And he invited me to the set. He was telling me on the side, like, yeah, we're having all these issues right now with the way, with control, and with the way he's viewing the shots, and he's not, he's not happy with this, and he's not happy with that. And the actors are starting to feel uncomfortable. And I was talking him about it and it's true some directors they cannot even think about pressing record or

beginning to edit unless it is exactly what they want they have no compromising tactics they don't know how to do that so yeah i think trank like you said i mean he should have just again you know none of us were there but like there there should have been a moment where he justified the level of film he's making with what he's done in the past and and and sort of figure out a way to compromise with everybody. Well, also, like, he didn't invent Fantastic Four, you know? Like, I, I would say that it's, it makes, it's perfectly justified for many directors to be control freaks. And my favorite directors are very likely control freaks, and it shows in their work. Absolutely, yeah. Right? Yeah, I mean, like, look at Kubrick. I mean, he was insane.

You can't do that with somebody else's project. Like, Fantastic Four is Fox's project. I don't care if your names on it. I don't care if you're a director for hire. You don't own Fantastic Four. You're making a superhero movie for a big studio, right? Yeah, that's why Marvel and all these other studios always get indie directors to direct these big movies, because they go at the end of the day, like, listen, you made one indie movie and we're fucking Marvel, and we're going to make a billion dollars, so you do what we say at the end of the day. Yeah, but that's a bad mindset. Yeah.

You'll get your projects funded more easily in the future, and you'll have more creative control. I mean, I hope so. How do you guys think this has impacted the new Star Wars first? that's just come out because that had a bit of controversy behind it. Are you talking about the Lord and Miller sort of thing? Well, I don't know why they had to drop out. It was just creative differences, right? But I mean, it's Disney, so we don't know.

We're making a fun movie, God forbid. It's too entertaining. I read an interview with Amelia Clark. She did the other day. She played Kira in the movie. And like all she said about it was that Ron Howard saved the movie. And really?

Yeah. And then she made like this sort of like offhand quote where she said like she, her exact quote was something like if y'all are going to tell me to keep acting like I'm from a film noir movie. I don't know what that means. And a lot of people took that as saying that that's the direction that Lord and Miller were giving her and that she wasn't doing much with it. So I don't know.

Like apparently the actors seemed happy. with it with the change but yeah I mean this is what always happens whenever we hear about these these edits when the Rogue one edits happened or when the Justice League edits happened and now everyone always like well I want to see the other cut I mean I do I honestly do but like there is a chance that that it's not as good I mean how far into production was the Lord and Miller thing though they only had a script right I'm pretty sure they show the whole film no I think oh no like halfway what Oh my gosh. More than halfway. This is nice to me. I didn't even know.

I thought they'd finish shooting it, but... Yeah, they were almost done. That's why it was such an expensive film in the end. It has a ludicrously big budget because they reshot like 70% of the film or something. It costs more than any other Star Wars movie. Wow. Right?

It's the most expensive one. Which is shocking. One of the safest ones. Yeah, like some Han Solo knockoff movies is like the most expensive fucking movie in the entire series. Who would have thought that? I read an interview with Harrison Ford, or not an interview where it was Ron Howard. He said Harrison Ford said he adored it.

I want to see Harrison Ford in like five years some paparazzi walks up to him. What did you really think of the handsome one? It sucked. Yeah. That's what he does, you know. What did you guys think of the main actor? Alden-Aren Reich. Who's all seen it?

Oh, yeah. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. But the rest of you can talk about it. Alex, did you see it? And I didn't care. Yep, I've seen it. Oh, wow.

Ralph, you were the person in the last episode that said you would definitely see it just to make money. I said I might see it to make money off the review. But I didn't end up seeing it because I was busy this week. I had no interest in seeing it. It looks so fucking boring. But I've heard mixed things. Quentin reviews said it was awful. And then I've heard some people say it's okay.

And then Red Letter Media liked it. So I'm like, all right, we'll see what happens. I'll go see it this weekend. Some of Red Letter Media liked it. it and even then they just said it was all right. One third of it did not like it as much. I was the person last episode that said I definitely would not be seeing it. But I had pulled an all-nighter because I was still jet-lagged from Cannes.

And it was noon and I was already out of the house and I was like, well, if I go back home, I'm just going to fall asleep and that would be bad. So I looked at my phone and I was like, hey, well, Star Wars is playing. I guess I can do something productive and that's how my story ends. It was all right. You didn't fall asleep during it. No, I'm pretty good at not falling asleep during movies. Except for the movie Awake.

Yeah, awake is a, yeah, that's the exception. The Hayden Christensen movie? Yes. Oh, my God. I remember watching that back in the day. I was really, I remember, but I saw the previews. I thought it was such a fucked up idea. And I was afraid the entire movie was going to be like a surgery torture porn movie.

And it's really not. Like, there's like this whole stuff. stupid backstory that builds. That's so dumb. It's really convoluted. Yeah. Yeah, what did you guys think of the main actor? He's fine, I guess.

I feel bad for him, kind of, because you can't really do anything with it. You basically, you're hampered into an imitation of something that everyone around the world already loves. And you just kind of have to find a way to emulate that while also following the script. I've liked a lot of Lawrence Cazdan's work. I mean, he's written some classics. Raders of the Lost Dark Empire Strikes Back, you know, I mean, he basically helped

invent one of the greatest characters of all time, Indiana Jones, between him and Lucas and Spielberg. And this script was so fucking safe. Like, there's never even like a hint of that edginess that Harrison Ford gave

Han Solo in the originals. There's never a moment where he's not smirking or smiling or chuckling or telling some joke or not caring about something. He's always just relying on luck to get him out of situations. And that's that's not, that's sort of like the, the aura that's like been created around Han Solo. But that's not actually how he portrays himself in the movies. Yeah, they, I didn't really feel like I saw the character. Whereas with Donald Glover and Lando Calrissian, like, I'm not, I'm not a huge Star Wars fan at all.

barely have any memory of Lando Calarician, but when I saw Donald Glover play him, I was like, that's it. Like, it immediately jogged my memory. I was like, oh, yeah, this is, I know exactly who this is. And then, yeah, playing Han Solo, a character who's supposed to be incredibly recognizable. I didn't see any of it in him. See, I thought he was okay, but it was the material that held him back the most because it was just everything he had to do was so predictable and by the books.

and he was just giving nothing to work with and it was the same way for a lot of the actors in the movie. Like, I wasn't even that impressed by Lando. I know a lot of people are saying how good he was, but to me I got the impression that it was just kind of an impression a lot of the time. Yeah. It didn't always work for me. But the whole film just, it's the biggest problem.

It's pointless. It's a pointless film. Everything about it. Yeah. Like, they're at the point where they're making films about throwaway lines from the previous movies. They're gonna milk it dry. That's all they have. It's the ship that made the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs.

We can make a movie out of that. Get on it. Let's make a movie. Oh my God. $400 million in the bag. He's had his arc. He's had his story. So when you go, that character has no space to grow or learn or do anything.

But don't you want to know how he got his name? Exactly. Don't you want to know that? Oh, Ralph, can I spoil it? Yeah, go ahead. The name thing is not that much. a spoiler, but go for it. There's nothing spoiled. It's so dumb. He just, he has to get out of a facility in Corellia,

where his home planet, and he thinks the fastest way is to join the empire because they're taking everybody. And he's like the grunt, or not the grunt, but the guy at the, the computer or whatever, he's like, your name, Han. What's your people's name? I don't have any people. Han. Hmm. Hmm. So, We'll call you Han Solo. Because you're by yourself. And that's it. Really?

That's, yeah, I would rather just never know it. Yeah. Like, they just start the movie. It's like, oh, my name's Hans Solo. Oh, got it. He's Han Solo. Great. In the movie, like in the movie, he directly references his parents.

He, like, somebody says, are you close with your father? And he says, not really. He doesn't say, my dad's dead. He doesn't say, I don't know my parents. He just says he's not really close with his dad. So he has, he was. born from something he's not like fucking Anakin Skywalker Jesus baby

Like so he has parents They could have just had it be his last name It's just stupid yeah I don't understand these movies where it's like There's these cool side characters in movies And that's all they're made to be It's just like a cool side character And that's what Hans Solo is just like oh he's the badass off

The side he has a little arc and a new hope And over empire and then like okay now we're gonna give him a whole movie And we're gonna make you like identify him And you can see him as a human being And it's like that doesn't make Han Solo cool anymore. You've ruined the mysticism and the awesomeness of solo by making a whole movie about him. And they're going to do that with Landau, and they're going to do that with Bubba Fett, and they're going to do that with everybody

until they run out of characters. They're going to be at fucking Dexter Jekster and Jarger Bix. They're going to make movies about them. Yeah. There'll be a movie about the rancor keeper eventually. Yeah. Oh man, I want to, I want a Java film. Yeah. You might you could get it. You really honestly could, man. Yeah. I want to know his story. You get a whole film with that slugs. He was trying to cross the border and he just came out of a pizza hut and they're like, okay, Jabba the hut. There you go.

We got it. That's perfect. We should make one of those videos where we predict all the future movies. Leave no stone unturned. Everything has to be explained. I saw the movie by myself. Am I Adam Solo? Oh.

All right. So I'll ask you guys something. If you were Disney right now, because you saw, we were talking about. about superhero fatigue and how like it still hasn't worn out yet we're four years into Star Wars and that's already fatigued so what would you do if you were the head of Disney and you had to fix this entire fucking franchise people are still saying it save it not it's it's going down last Jedi much less and now this movie people are saying it bombed I don't think it did that bad but it's it's way underperforming in comparison to the others

like it bombed yeah yeah I mean they're gonna make it back in merchandise anyway people are still seeing them. But it's a Star Wars movie that was released Memorial Day weekend. Yeah, but it's very clearly... Barely broke 100 million. It says in the title that it's a spin-off. It's like solo, a Star Wars story. They're basically just saying, this one's not important. You don't have to watch it. And then the trailer looked very uninteresting and unimportant, so people didn't see it. That's why it happened. But they'll continue making money. People will see episode nine. Yeah. Yeah. Some people don't want to see how I'm solo if it's not Harrison Ford. That too. Yeah, that too. But it's going... I think I'm

of the opinion that it's just going downhill and each one's making less and less because people are just kind of getting tired of it. So, I mean, if you'd think there's no issue, that's fine. We'll see where Disney and Star Wars is in 10 years. I think, like, I know that they're trying to do an original trilogy with Ryan Johnson that's like has nothing to do with the Skywalker family. I think that's something that needs to happen at some point, because I am already, I said it back when Rogue One came out. I was like, I don't need to know this story. I don't care to know this story. And I don't certainly don't need to know what Han Solo was doing with Woody Harrelson on top of a train. So I just, I want there to be,

it's like the Star Wars galaxy is more than just this one group of people. It's like this whole other universe. I would love, this will never happen. But I want like a very independent feeling Star Wars movie that just takes place on one fucking planet, the whole movie. They never go into space, like even once. And it's, you could create, just take any great script that's made out of an action movie, like with what they did with Die Hard with a vengeance. That was another script called Simon Says. They changed all the characters.

They changed the character names. They kept the same script, and they made a diehard movie. Make a great action movie on some random planet with brand new characters that we've never seen or heard from before. I mean, you could literally do anything. You have the rights to Star Wars. You could do anything. But by not doing that, they've limited the universe down to just like, it's always the same shit every time.

They could do that at any point still. I guess they could, but they're proving time and time again that there isn't anything to it, really. There's the facade that there's something to it. They have no idea how to write new characters. Yeah, I blame bad management. I blame Kathleen Kennedy for that. Woo!

Whoa. Hala! Yeah, I think they spent $4 billion or whatever it was to buy all that from George Lucas, and now they're just so concerned with making all their money back, even though I think they're probably, they should be there already by now at this point. Think about merchandising. Don't even consider like the film's profits. The merchandising alone, the fucking toys are going to make the money back.

Porks didn't sell well. Pork's kind of underperformed as well. Dude, they'll have a fucking Darth Mall fidget spinner, and it'll be fine. My roommate's a big fan of Star Wars, and he hates what Disney's done with it. But then I was explaining to him, like, what George Lucas did with it, between the prequels and that fucking god-awful Star Wars Connect video game, where you danced like a Han Solo song. Oh, yeah.

Of what's that? Writing solo. I'm Han Solo. I'm Han Solo. I'm Han Solo. The Carbonite is gone. Moving on. I worked at Best Buy when that was out.

I was laughing my ass off at all the years I got from people. Fuck, everybody hated it. It was on display. Did you get to see people demoing it? Yeah, I played the, what were they called? I don't know, the huge monster things. You got to like crush the city. I played that one.

It was kind of fun. Because nobody was in the store anyway. I think we want to change topics pretty soon. Alex, did you have anything else to add about this solo? I would just quickly give what I would do if I was ahead of Disney. I'd want to make Star Wars an event. again. So how about this? You have a trilogy every 10 years. Just leave it at that.

That chance. I know that would never happen, but they could just have the hype cycle every time and people would just lose their minds. And you could have way more time planning them, making them actually amazing films. Yeah, that's the thing. Everyone's worried about the money like right this moment, but if they drag it out for a long time, Star Wars could last fucking hundreds of years. Yeah, complete this new trilogy, then go dark for a bit, give it time to just say, actually plan out what you're going to do with the future. And then proceed.

I agree with you. I think the problem is that they're not going to because we live in this like real time news world where everything is right now. And like when I was a kid and there was a new and the prequels were one every three years. I remember thinking that was forever. And when I watched the movies, they felt like it was forever as well. But I mean like with these Today we want everything right now And we get a new superhero

We get three new superhero movies a year or something And so they're trying to basically do that With Star Wars and I don't think it's a good idea I agree with you No Yeah Got him That's what makes it special

Got them Hear that Kathleen take her advice We're four guys on the internet Four white guys on the internet Oh yeah That's true I don't want to forget that point Ralph

Do you want to introduce the film recommendation of this episode and also mention that people should watch it? I guess I just did. Oh, yes, you should watch it, but this is a spoiler discussion of the film Mommy. Oh, I typed it into Google and the mummy came out. Not the mummy. Mommy, there we go. Yeah, we're going to talk about the mummy. Go see it.

So it's a film that came out in 2014, directed by Xavier Dolan. It is a wonderful movie. talk about it now. Spoilers. Describe the film. Describe it? Oh, so I could, so there's this, there's the mom, there's a mom and she's got a kid. A mommy. And the kid, there's a mommy. And the kid is like, kind of unpredictable and violent. And it's just about their life. And that's it. I don't know how else to describe it. They meet like a girl who has a stammer or what is it called? Stutter.

Stutter. Yeah. Speech impediment. Speech impediment. That's it. That's the movie. Great explanation. Yep. Good job. It really made it sound interesting. What did you think?

What'd you guys think of mommy? I thought it was great. Good. I'm glad. I had never seen it before. And YMS, I'm just going to call you YMS, if that's okay. No, it's like, whenever I talk to any of my buddies, I'm like, yeah, I talked to my buddy YMS. They're like, sorry, Adam from. Why am I?

And they're like, oh, yeah, him. Okay. Anyway, he, you message me. You were like, don't try to fix your TV when the film starts because the aspect ratio is supposed to look like an iPhone. And I was like, okay, okay. And it took like five minutes, but I kind of, I started to forget about it. It started to, it was, it was an adjustment.

Just like the sun is also, he's a bit of an adjustment because he's so. he's so unlikable for a large portion of the movie that it's it's something I really actually admired about it is that films nowadays when you have a character like that they try so hard to as quick as possible make you like them even though they're they're really violent and rude and you know like he's touching his mom's breasts and stuff and you're like okay dude like you know

take a couple steps back but this film doesn't it takes a long time before you kind of see under the surface and understand the nuances of his character and you can kind of understand why he acts the way he does. And I really admired that about it because I think writers are afraid to put characters like that in their scripts nowadays because they don't want people to think their movie is annoying or a character is annoying. But this movie lets that kind of drag on for a while. And I was impressed by that. Yeah, it feels it feels like a real person rather than a character with an agenda from the script, you know? The script isn't necessarily being like, okay, here's what we definitely want the audience to feel at this point.

So we'll tweak his character and have him do this here, you know, having like a little checklist. It was more organic than that, I felt. Yeah. Like it was a very strange character, a very unconventional character, very troubled character, but it still felt very real, very realistic of somebody with developmental issues and ADHD, et cetera, et cetera. Like this type of person does exist. and they are fucked up. And they are a handful. But you can understand why the mother loves him in the end still,

even if part of the relationship is a bit manipulative in a sense, you can still empathize with it. Yeah, throughout the whole thing, even though he's completely unlikable for a lot of it, you want to see him get better just because of how much, I think her name's Diane, the main woman, right? Yeah. Just how much she loves him.

Yeah. Die, yeah, they call her die too. Yeah, this is an excellent, excellent movie. I saw this in a theater, Adam. I don't know if you know. Awesome. Me too. And I was thinking the same thing.

Like, did the projector fuck up? What's with the box on the side? What's with the letter box? But no, it was excellent. And I don't know. I guess we can reveal why it is, why that happens. It's just for this one moment in the movie where things are finally looking up. And the main kid, what's his name, Steve?

Yes. He pulls the boxes or the black bars off to the side. He just pulls it away. And you're like, wow, I feel so free and alive. And then the scene after, he goes back to his, you know, his old routine of yelling at people and being rude. And just the black bars come back. And you're like, ah, fuck. She gets served in the mail.

They do it a couple of times, don't they? Yeah. It's not just for one moment. That's for sure. But that's like the, that was the most effective moment. Yeah. But every time they do it, it's strange that more films have not played around with Aspect Reissue.

What was that film from last year? It comes at night? That did it a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That did it a bit. And I thought that was really effective there too. But this one in particular actually had a true, like, emotional response from me with the work.

It's just so effective. It's because it's something that's not done very often. And it really does, like, enrich everything about those moments. And then, yeah. Yeah, I would disagree with the, uh, By you saying Ralph that it's just for one moment because although that is the most important moment where it becomes incredibly clear what the film is going for and that it's directly associated with the emotions of the characters I mean it yeah it wouldn't work without the entirety of of the film sort of desensitizing you and

acclimatizing you to it you know it oh yeah it builds it up really well and it does it other times but it that was the one moment where it stuck out to me the most like this is why it's here and then immediately after it closes back in and you feel this fucking claustrophobic yeah exactly class exactly what I would use to describe it yeah to me it was like it was almost like um the mother since you know it's the title of the film mommy and it focuses on her the most and you feel kind of connected with her plight the most it made it feel like like she's trapped she has no way out and these at that the black bars are literally scrapping her in this life.

You know, she's, she now has this, uh, court date because of something her son did. She has, he's living with her now. Um, she can't go to just one place for like a half hour without him causing some, some ruckus at home and, and eventually peeing on himself, you know. And so she's just completely isolated, uh, has, has no real way out. And those, those brief moments where the aspect ratio shifts back to, uh, 16. are really powerful because I was watching it last night and I I've never been blown away by an aspect ratio.

But like the introduction of the aspect ratio, it just made me feel like I just connected exactly with what he was trying to communicate through his film. The characters had these moments where they felt freedom. They had these little fleeting moments. Like he literally is on a cart screaming, I'm free, I'm free. where he has like these brief little moments where they feel like the world's okay and then she gets a letter in the mail and hey we're back to real life again. Yeah.

Yeah. I feel like it is directly connected to Dyes' emotions specifically because even in the second time it happens, it's within her daydream too. You know, she's looking for that light at the end of the tunnel in her life and she feels trapped and she communicates this throughout the film too, very, very straightforwardly. if that's a word straightforwardly. It could be. When they're like, after the karaoke scene and she's yelling about, she's like,

oh, I have to take care of this little retardant piss his pants and never get to do anything, blah, blah, blah. And it's like you see it all come out and it's just so incredibly genuine and well done. I really, really love all of the acting in this movie. All three performances are the three probably best performances of the year. honestly to me. It was insane. I was pretty blown away by her as well and Dorval.

I started looking at what else she had done so I could watch what else she had done because I also watched your review, Adam, from 2014. And I agree with what you were saying about how really no one really feels like a character. No one feels like they're written. It's almost like you're spying on real events, like documentary style. It just feels so tangible like you could just walk into that room and probably talk with those characters. Like you said, Ralph, it doesn't feel like the script is pushing or pulling them in any direction. It just, it's happening and we watch it happen.

And those are the best types of movies to me. Will I want to rewatch this movie every month? No, I mean, there are scenes that are really hard to get through. Yeah, it's a depressing movie sometimes. Something that I'm interested in hearing your guy's opinion of is since we get that sequence where Dye is sort of daydreaming about what could happen. And to me, as soon as she showed up with a brand new car, I was like, something's off here. Like, this doesn't make any sense. And then he gets sent to Juilliard and then he's getting married.

And during that daydream, then it cuts back to her and she's sort of imagining it. At the end of the film, she's in her apartment having like a moment to herself. And then we see Steve escape out of his straight jacket and run for the door. Do you think she imagined that too? No. I don't think so either. Okay. Yeah, he ran for the window.

And who the fuck knows what floor that was on. I like how ambiguous it was kind of left at the end. Like, is he going to break through? Is he going to die? Is he just going to hit and fall over and look like a fucking idiot? you know yeah it was weirdly hopeful even though logistically he would never get out of that situation but like just that image of him running to the window like oh he's he's free even just for a moment that's what made me think it was a little ambiguous was that it just felt so it felt more hopeful

than the rest of the film I think where and since we were given a sequence where she does daydream what she wishes her son would do in that moment it made me start to think that it could be that but I think like if the if the aspect ratio had changed at that point back to wide again then I would definitely say it's a daydream Yeah, I didn't even really see it as that hopeful It was very like bittersweet since it doesn't like I think it's probably still happening, but it just it's an interesting way to look at it like it has The ending has a lot more layers than then then it should which I like yeah it was just a perfect ending Because I was I'm like how do you end a movie like this? We're just so fucking miserable And I think that's just the perfect way that we do.

There's one aspect of the movie that I'm not sure if I like or not. The film opens with some text explaining, which I thought was quite strange, explaining that it's set in an alternate reality somewhat where there's this certain law. 2015 fake Canada. This really specific, hyper-specific law. I can't remember what it said specifically, but it was something to do with kind of mental health. It was literally just to set up the ending. That's it.

I agree with you there. It was unnecessary. I agree with you. I didn't like it either. I was waiting for like some red words to come up. It was like, and these are called. Yeah. I'm like, okay, is this Blade Runner?

Like what? Yeah. We didn't need that text at the beginning of that for sure. Very unnecessary. Because it's like, well, we're just waiting for the scene where this happens then. It just felt very old to me. It reminded me of how in that, in the, the film Annihation at the beginning, it kind of spoils where it's going to end.

And that does take a bit of the umph out of the storytelling to me. We haven't, we haven't talking about how... You didn't remember that? No, the first time I saw, I didn't remember that. And the thing is, if you cut out that text and still have that ending, it totally would have worked. I wouldn't have even doubted it. Like, oh, they're putting him in a mental hospital.

That's the thing. It seemed unnecessary to me. Oh, yeah. Did not need it whatsoever. And see, like, I'm not even from Canada. I would have just been like, oh, that's some Canadian thing. Yeah. Those Canadians are crazy with their loss.

Yeah. I mean, it didn't have to be even set in, I guess they do reference like Montreal and Toronto, and they reference the Americans down south and stuff like that. So it is a very Canadian film. There's a bunch of Celine Dion in it. And I guess my one question would be, why was it set in 2015, Canada, when there's literally nothing that attaches it to 205? It could have been 2007, and all the phones would have fit.

But if you ask Xavier Dolan, he just says, no, I like flip phones. That's why they're in the movie. Like, he just likes flip phones. I don't know why he didn't said it in 2007. There was nothing 2015 about it. Definitely a bold choice. I think flip phones are more cinematic because you can like flip it shut, you know, and like have like a good ending to the conversation.

And there's something that allows, like with a flip phone, you can actually, and this is such a stupid thing to say, but I'm going to say it. With a flip phone, you can actually like kind of communicate how angry or how passive someone's feeling. Like if they close it slowly, if they slam it shut, they're mad. But like with a modern day smartphone, you just kind of like press it and does stuff. It's not cinematic. You could fold your iPhone in half and it would be pretty cinematic. That'd be the ultimate end to a phone call in a movie.

It's just crushing your phone and folding it and then eating it. We should make a movie like that. Whenever they end a phone call, they fucking just destroy their phone. In a completely serious film. You had a completely serious film. Yeah. All right, Ralph, let's co-write a short film that's literally just a minute of like a phone conversation that's really fucking angry.

And at the end, he just eats his phone. Let's totally do it. I'm on board. Let's go. Earlier, Alex, I cut you off when you were saying something. Yeah, I'm surprised none of us had brought up just how unbelievably gorgeous the film is. Oh, yeah. Very well shot.

It's got this autumnal kind of soft, warm presentation, you know. It's like lots of yellows, oranges, and blues. Yes. Which, yeah, it was just unbelievably gorgeous. I was going to say, Zavier Dolan, who wrote this as well, which is amazing. He was like 25 when he made this. Oh, yeah. Which is fucking fantastic.

And, like, apparently he got into Cannes when he was like 19 or 20. Yeah. With his first movie. I killed my mother. I think that's what it's called. Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing.

Yeah. So this is an immensely. talented guy. And yeah, this movie goes to show. He gets better and better. I saw a few of his earlier films and it was clear that he was like experimenting a lot with with colors and

really alternative ways of presenting movies too. Like he's very creative. He likes to do things a little bit differently. He even actually fucked with the aspect ratio in the film previous to Mommy called Tom at the Farm. In a

more subtle way, honestly, pretty much identically to It Comes at Night. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. I was looking up other films that did that after I saw it comes in night and I saw the scene

from that movie where the guys got him in like a headlock and the bars start to come down on him. And I'm like, that really is exactly what Trey Edward Schultz did. And he was like at festivals talking about how he came up with this idea and I just kind of wanted to be like someone else already did it like in the exact same way. Nobody watches Canadian movies. Exactly.

You mentioned, Alex, about the color. I totally agree with you because I think a less experienced director would take a movie that's depressing like this and that's so dour and that's, you know, it's a tough watch. And they would be like, this has to be desaturated. This has to be gray. This has to be cold. but really the entire film is really warm orange colors and like the sunlight streaming into the windows you can you sense the breeze coming in sometimes

when they're in the kitchen it's a it's I think the perfect answer whenever someone says that is no look at mommy I mean that that's a very dark film very depressing film and the whole film looks bright you don't have to think that colors change necessarily just based on your characters yeah yeah well I mean but then you have to put effort into the characters in the and you can't just use the color palette as a crutch just to clue into the audience that it's supposed to be said. Exactly.

Exactly, that's what I'm saying. And that's what a less experienced director would do. They'd be like, well, we'll desaturate it and it'll be dark. It's like, no. That's not how it works. I'm telling you it's sad, and you're supposed to feel sad. Exactly. Look how blue it is.

It's sad. See? It's a sad movie. How did you guys feel about a Wonderwall being in it? The whole soundtrack, honestly. My roommate felt a little distracted by it. I was. I got the impression that a lot of people get distracted by the soundtrack.

Is something that I hear online? Is it supposed to be the playlist his father made for him? You know, I could eventually freeze the frame on the moment where he shows the CD and you can see the track listing and perhaps it would be there. But either way, I feel like even if it's not literally that, I feel like it's that in a a symbolic way. Like, Dolen, from what I understand, he doesn't do this with every movie.

I've never seen another movie from him where he has this constant, nostalgic hit playlist going along with every scene in the film. I feel like that's very much unique to this movie. And I do, I don't know if you guys notice this, but pretty much every single song, the lyrics perfectly describe what the characters are going through in their emotions.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. You know, even from the opening scene with Dye deciding that she's going to look after her son, you know, I won't put my flag up and surrender, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, all the lyrics match perfectly to what's being shown. And I almost, well, I would have to assume that the film was written around the soundtrack in a sense. I think it was, too, in mind with the script. Because the song Wonderwall actually, like it begins right after Steve coughs. Like he, she turns around, she winks at him, and he coughs. And that is exactly what happens on the actual Wonderwall album.

Like there's actually a cough sound. There's a cough sound that precedes what he's saying. No, I thought I remembered that. I thought I remember that while watching it. And just to confirm, I looked it up online. And yeah, that is true. So I do think he, you know, like way before they even shot this movie, he knew he wanted Wonderwall there for some reason. Yeah, I didn't feel distracted by the soundtrack.

It does make it feel very unique to me. I don't feel off put by it at all. But I can understand why that would happen to some people, I guess. I saw it as like a cultural thing. Like, it's a different country or different. language or whatever so for them it's not as distracting but I don't know if I agree with that I didn't bother me that much I was just trying to justify it to I think French Canada was just as aware of all of those hits is the rest of Canada yes well what I saw it I didn't know

anything about it I just assumed oh French it's French movie could be from France I don't fucking they actually they actually put French subtitles in for the can release of this film because French-Canadian accent is so very different than the actual French accent. It's like if French had a southern accent. Like French people hate the French-Canadian accent. They think it sounds disgusting. They hate it.

God's sake. Don't you think the film, every frame kind of looks like it looks like the kind of pictures you'd see hanging in a trendy coffee shop somewhere, you know? Like you could take any frame from the movie. that's just what I kept thinking of I can see that yeah yeah I can totally see that

it's actually interesting it has that kind of personality I would like Criterion to release I'm not sure if Criterion has released a Blu-ray but if they haven't I want that to be the quote on the back of it I just wanted to say Alex says that every shot

looks like a coffee shop fixed I agree with you know you could scroll to a random frame print it out and hang it up and yeah it does feel very picturesque Yeah, well, the framing was so unique just because of that aspect ratio. We have to frame everything differently.

And again, that adds to that kind of coffee shop photos hanging on a wall feel that I loved about it. Did you know that it's actually not taller than it is wide? It's a perfect square one by one aspect ratio. I was reading that, yeah. And I like, I really enjoyed the moments where you could tell the way that the shot was set up and the framing was aware of it. They didn't just crop it after the fact. Like there's very specific key moments where it makes sense like the microwave shot or it says hell and then it says hello. You know, like the film itself and the way that it's presenting this in a claustrophobic sense, it's turning her reality into something that is hell when, you know, microwave is saying hello, but you're seeing hell and you're not seeing the full picture because you're stuck in this claustrophobic environment.

this depression. I feel like that kind of highlights it very well. Just that one shot. And it happens a few times. Like even the shot at the end where he's on the phone and he's like, I'm so fucking high right now when he's in the straight jacket. And you see in the wider shot that his, it's not his hand holding up the phone. But if that were a wide angle, if you didn't have the bars on the side,

you would already know that. Yeah. It makes the reveal more interesting. When it cut to that wide of him in the straight jacket, I actually, like, out loud said, wow. Like, that was a really, it just hit me, you know, because I love when directors can just cut to a wide and you understand everything. It's, it's one shot. It's not even moving. It's not dollying.

It's nothing. It's just a static wide shot and you, well, in this case, a static square shot. And you understand exactly what he wants you to know. I looked up the director because I really wanted to watch more of his film. And I realized I've actually seen him before as an actor. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I just, just like a month ago, I watched this great fucked up movie called Martyrs.

Yes. And he is in that film. And if you haven't seen it, I won't ruin what happens. Opening scene pretty much. Yeah, I was like, damn, that kid. Okay. That's awesome. Yeah, dinner table.

Oh, my God. I loved that scene so much. Adam. I'm like, that blew me away. It kind of changed the way I look at violence and movies. Oh, awesome. Glad to hear. Alex and Ralph, have you seen Martyrs?

No, I haven't. Wow. Okay, I'll keep that in mind. Next. Yeah. We'll be watching it soon. I'll tell you this, just like, like, as a warning, like, if you thought Mommy was depressing, like, after Martyrs, I literally started searching Netflix for, like, children's animation

shows. Yeah. Yeah, don't look up anything about it, is all I'm going to say. Yeah, Adam shows us some pretty depressing movies. Yeah, I didn't think it was that depressing. Yeah, I didn't think it was that depressing. Compared to, yeah, that one,

the, England is incredibly oppressing. Dancing the Duck. House Su is just fucking, it was just a fucking nightmare. So, Alex, you said you found the music, like, distracting. I think what it is is when you use such famous songs or just any quite popular song, chances are you're going to have or maybe have some kind of kind of personal relationship with the songs

memories attached to the song so if there's something I associate with a certain part of my life or with something else or like just the drunk person I know singing it on his acoustic guitar I don't want to be reminded of that yeah when watching a movie I prefer when it's a little more I don't know if subtle be the right word or just more You don't connect it with like a previous experience Which would take you out of the film

But it's like yeah Anything that can be attached to any sort of meme or You know kind of culture like that It just pulls me out for a second I thought the scene was still fine It didn't ruin the film for me or anything But the thought was there was all And you only experienced that with Wonderball

None of the other songs I did a bit I don't know there's just something there's something quite particular about the music to me which seemed a little bit off and I don't know

slightly on the nose for my liking yeah it didn't ruin the film for me or anything but it did pull me out for just a second cool you're wrong I would say in most movies

I would agree with you but this is a movie that kind of owns it you know there was a film that I watched recently I think I was watching it on the plane I think it was all the money in the world it might have been where

they kept using all these songs that I'd heard way too many times before but it was clearly not part of the point I don't know if it was that movie or not I can't remember which one I think I think that's what it was is just are they really using yeah okay they're making it work

but it's just there's that initial doubt yeah I feel I feel like this kind of owns it better I feel like it's different when it's clearly just on a checklist of songs that have been used in movies before that we need to use in a movie because this is how you make a movie and this is the tracklist you're supposed to have. Whereas this felt more like a personal playlist from Xavier Dolan, you know? Right.

I'm waiting for like a Vietnam War movie to come out that doesn't have Credence Clearwater revivals. Doesn't have Rolling Stones music. Yeah. I totally agree with you, Adam, because like so many times I see these movies, it's almost like the filmmaker's pick songs because they can't think of anything else. Like that's the song that we will put here and we can get the rights to it. So that is something I kind of liked about this movie was even though like my wife

was in the next room when I was watching it and she was like, is that Oasis? Yeah, it is. In this French film that's shot like a square. It's about the square. Yeah, a lot of these directors use it too, like the music just to set the time. period and it's always like oh so you're gonna just play 70s music or when it's Vietnam they play again like you said Koreans clear water and and Rolling Stones it's annoying I like what Tarantino does with it where it just fucking plays wherever he

wants like Django and Chain there's like rap music in the background yeah just like stuff that doesn't fit the period at all but it's interesting yeah or like in the hateful late he actually like reused old some music from one of Inyo Morricone's forgotten cues from the thing that Carpenter rejected. I love when he does stuff like that. I feel like really does like director have that kind of clout where they can be like, hey, can I use the score from your movie and just put it in because it's what I do? I really like that though because it lets you kind of craft the scene in your head while you're listening to the music before you even shoot it,

which I think he does a lot. And I don't know, clearly like, is it Dolan? Well, you know, I thought it was Dolan. long, but some people corrected me saying it is Dolan. And I was saying Dolan as a joke, but it is, I guess. I don't know, but I'm pretty sure it's Xavier. I think he definitely was listening to a lot of those songs way before he even shot the film, especially because it has that cough moment in there just like on the album.

So I think he was ahead of the curve a little bit. Although I agree with you, Alex, it being distracting. I wouldn't take away points from the movie for it. It's like when Tarantino uses it. It's distracting, but it's interesting. And you're like, all right. I do like that decision. It does work ultimately.

Yeah. What did you guys think of the song that was playing during the dream sequence? That was orchestral, right? It was, but it's actually not, it wasn't scored for the film. It is the, I mentioned this composer before. It's the same composer from This Is England, actually. Ludovietiko Ainadi, and the track is called Experience. And although this film is one where I think I heard it for the first time in this film, I'm pretty sure.

No, I don't remember if I heard his album beforehand. Either way, this was the first time I'd heard it used in other media. And now at this point, it's being used in like a lot of car commercials and shit. So it might reach a point where, unfortunately, it gets bastardized. But we actually have a clip from Ludovico Inaudi right now if you haven't heard some of his material before. I know it was coming. Sorry, what did you want to say? Man, Ludovico.

True talent. Chris, you were saying something. No, no, no. I'm sorry. I didn't want to interrupt that amazing moment just now. I had thought I had heard it before. And now that you mentioned that it's in car commercials, that's probably where I've heard it.

Yeah. I was actually humming it after that scene because I thought it was so beautiful. So I love that. Good composer. Yeah, he is. Is there anything else to say about mommy? I think we all loved it. Yeah, it's just really solid.

I feel like we should mention that like something about like what do you think his motivation for kissing his mother was? While kissing his hand on his mother's? No, no. There's a scene where he literally kisses her. I'm trying to remember. You fill on just kisses her for a few seconds. He's a developmentally challenged child, for sure. And he doesn't understand boundaries, that's for sure.

Definitely, but I think it was a little beyond that, too, because he looks in their eyes and he's like, some people do fall out of love, but I'll never do that with you. I'll always be there for you. And then he just leans in, like, this really passionate, creepy kiss. And she just walks away. And her expression, like, to me,

I could be overthinking this, but her expression, she didn't seem that surprised by it. It's almost like she was just kind of waiting for it to inevitably happen, like she knew it would eventually happen one day. So I feel like there's a little bit more than maternal love for him and his head for her. I think that they have a very atypical relationship that, you know, goes further towards sexual than most mother-child relationships would. but I don't think that it is actually sexual for them.

I think that they are just very kind of like free spirits in a way. And even if something looks really fucked up to the rest of the world, they don't give a shit sort of thing. And they know their own relationship. I don't think they're fucking if that's. No, I don't think so either. I don't think they, I don't think so either.

But I do think that if she hadn't put him in that home, that eventually he might have tried. Yeah. But that could have happened. But that could have been a motivation too for also why she put him there. Yeah. They're fucked up people that do rape their mothers. Stories come out like that every once in a while.

So who the fuck knows? I got to rewatch this movie with that in mind. That's an interesting obviously. I mean, I was thinking that. But I just always took it as he kind of confuses sexual love with how you love your mother, a more maternal, you know, caring love like that. I never thought of it as like, oh, they might have some side action going on. I don't think they, I don't think they do.

But it could have led to that, yeah. There's a major jealousy aspect, too, when they go to the karaoke club, and she's trying to impress that lawyer who just wants to get, he thinks just wants to get in her pants, and that really sets him off. So there's definitely a very controlling aspect to the way he views his mom's sexuality or what she might do outside of home. He's manipulative for sure. Yeah.

Yeah. What would you guys give it out of 10 or out of A through F or out of stars? I'd give it, no, I'd give it in like an 8.5 out of 10. What would you give it on your scale? Probably like an A minus. Nice. Yeah. Awesome.

I'd probably give it a 4 out of 5. Nice. 4? Really? I got to go 5. I mean, this is one of the most moving films I've ever seen. I mean, I kind of be. I mean, I kind of undersold it here because we were all talking about all these different elements, like how great the direction was and all that.

But, yeah, this is a really powerful movie for me. See, now we can really argue because we all just gave it a grade, so now we can really argue. Yeah, exactly. I would give it a nine out of ten. Nine. Yeah. Like Hitler. How dare you not think it's perfect.

Like Hitler. Nine. Nine. Nine. Well, I'm glad you all liked Mommy. Yeah, I thought it was really good. The mummy. The mummy.

The mommy with Tom Cruise. Yeah, exactly. Alex, I wanted to ask you something. How do you pronounce yogurt in your country? Because I heard Gordon Ramsey say it, and he's like, he said yogurt. Yogurt? Oh my God, what the fuck is wrong with you people? Yogurt?

Greek yogurt, yeah. Oh, my God, it's yogurt. How do you pronounce aluminum? Jaguar. I'm gonna find words for you every week and just... Jaguar. Jaguar? No, you pronounce it...

Jesus Christ. You pronounce it Jenkum. Jenkum. We've got to start selling Jenkum T-shirts because I know, like, at least 100 people will buy it the first day. We have, like, a whole sub-community of just Jenkham fans. They're obsessed. We've got that market on hold, because no one else is taking it. You guys want to do some questions?

Of course. Alex, do you want to start? Oh, damn straight. Oh, you ask them on Reddit, by the way. Just so, in case you don't know. Yeah, goes to the side on the cast Reddit. And I actually went through every single question this time. Because I'm not obsessed. I was really one as comb for good ones.

Loser. This is one from Frame Genius, who asks, which movies in the most recent years do you think will be considered classics in the future? I'll start so you guys have a bit of thinking time but I think Blade Runner 2049 will be remembered as a classic in years to come That's what I was going to say

Yeah that's for sure Sorry that's guaranteed I can't remember the last time I saw a movie that long Two times in a row in such quick succession Without getting bored And I mean every shot Every fucking goddamn shot in that movie is perfect Like it's

even beyond the aesthetics I've never seen a sequel come out with that much time in between the previous one and with a film that's already regarded as a classic and still somehow be that good so yeah I agree with you man

yeah I wouldn't I liked it I liked played runner a lot yeah see we're all run it definitely definitely gonna be a classic yeah I think I think it's gonna be a classic, yeah. I don't consider it one, but yeah, I really liked it.

How far back are we allowed to go in terms of recent, like five years? They didn't say, but they just said recent. Yeah, I mean, like, you know, no country for old men's already classic. Can we agree on that? So like 10 years is too much. I would say social networks are classic already, like that would be a go to. Is it? That's like, yeah, I think so.

That's like a generation defining movie. That's like, that's about my generation. I guess so. It's an amazing film. But I don't think that would be my answer. I think like it's, how do we define it? Are we defining the way like, you know, the academic community views a classic or like the way, like for instance, my generation views the sandlot as a classic, but you're not going

to see the sandlot show up on sight and sounds best of list or something, you know? So like it's, are we talking like, you know, the way people adopt movies? like the Big Lobowski, for instance, and kind of turn them into something else, or just sort of like, you know, a vertigo or a, you know, a psycho, you know, like a seven samurai type thing. Time will tell, you know. Yeah. It'll be clear what's a classic when it is one. There's genre classics, too.

Like, oh, if you want to see good action movie, you have to see the two raid movies. I could see people like 20 years from now going, you have to see the raid, the raid one and the raid two. It's like, those are fucking peak best action. There's a movie for me that's... I agree. I agree. There's a movie for me that's improved over time. It's only 13 years old.

But V for Vendetta, the first time I saw it be for vendetta, I thought it was fine. And over the years, like the subject, the political subtext has become more relevant with each passing year. The way it explores terrorism and the way we view terrorism. And what's so impressive about it is it came out just like, four years or four or five years after 9-11 and that was still kind of like a fresh bruise really and they had the balls to talk about it and sort of show a terrorist and a sympathetic light and I think that movie has improved over time and I feel like that film will be

sort of one that people talk about a lot more in the future yeah I think so too it's amazing I saw that movie like two years ago and I was shocked how relevant it was because I had never seen it beforehand I was like wow this is actually this is aged very very very well. I mean, there's some things that aren't so great about it, but like, yeah, really good movies still. I mean, we can count Mad Max Fury Road, too. Yeah, I was going to say that. I was going to say that. It's just like a masterful piece of filmmaking. Yeah, I was going to say that too. Yeah. The Dark Knight.

The Dark Knight's the best superhero movie ever. Nothing comes close. That's 10 years ago now. Yeah. That's a pretty classic. I would argue like any Villeneuve movie like Arrival prisoners like those people are going to consider those classics for sure you know you think so I don't I think prisoners yes maybe I think prisoners yes maybe not a rival I think arrival is amazing but I feel like a lot I feel like it bores a lot of people yeah I think arrival is amazing too I still don't think it's like a classic amazing movie we'll know if it's one of those guys I like all of his movies I just don't love any of them. I think Prisoners is like one of the best purely dark dramas I've seen in a long time. It's still my favorite movie of 2013. Yeah.

And so, yeah, I mean, I think that it's, I feel like critics are, like, critics are afraid to admit that movies age or that movies aren't as good on rewatch because they're so like hoity-toity about their grades and stuff. But like, that changes all the time. Like, you can watch a movie that came out five years ago and be like, oh, this just. doesn't hit me the way it does back then, but prisoners, I think, has maintained itself really well. 100% definite classic whiplash. Yes. Whiplash, guaranteed, test of time, guaranteed, no question. I'm right.

You're all wrong. I agree with you, man. I was talking to our listeners. The movie came out and it made like $10 million in the box office, and then by the end of that year, everyone had seen. it that I knew. Like a fuck ton of people have seen whiplash and just adore it. I think drive is one of those too. Drive's a little older. Drive is like the film student answer. Like everyone's got a drive poster on their wall on their wall in a film school. It's like the new pulp fiction. One more answer for classics. Her by Spike Jones. Yes. Yeah. People consider that as a classic

if I don't think it's been long enough for people to already consider it that, but I think people will for sure. Yeah, it's going to be one of those 2001, where like 30 years from now we're basically going to be living in that society and they're going to be like, wow, her predicted all of this, that's amazing. I already date my phone though, so. Yeah, oh, there you go.

Me too, I think we all do. Yeah, it's the emoji app. Yeah, emoji movie app. I have a question. I'm in an intimate relationship with the emoji movie. What is it, Roof? Oh, yeah? That's interesting. So I have a question from, Kiyubi Derwiski?

That's his name. I don't know what you... Since Stuckman is quite an avid anime fan, what's your favorite animated movie that's from Japan for all of you? Favorite animated film from Japan? Yeah. Shit, man. I mean, it's a cliche,

but I got to go with Hayo Miyazaki's films, probably spirited away. Yeah, that was mine. I feel like spirited away is a movie you can show anyone, even if they've never watched anime before, and they're just blown away by it. Yeah. I think it's a masterpiece.

Yeah, it's a masterpiece. Yeah, I've never seen a single one of his films, and I really need to. I don't start with that one, because that will start you too high, and then everyone you watch after that, you won't like as much. Yeah, should I start with Panyo?

No, that's one is worse. And they'll all get better. Exactly. Yeah, so it'll go up from there. Oh, guess, yeah, but then you might not want to watch anymore after that. Yeah, that's true. So Panyo was actually my first movie review, by the way. Really?

Oh, we got to track that down. That's going on the road. It's not on the internet anymore, unfortunately. That was on my first channel. Someone will find it. Someone will find you. That was on my first channel. But no, if you were to see, maybe check out, like, Kiki's delivery service

or my neighbor's Hodorow first. And if you like that, then progress to Spirit It Away. Yeah. I bet I'll like them. I don't know if I agree with that. I will appreciate it too. I would say, I mean, you could watch Spirit Away and Princess Mononoke. And, you know, if you want to continue, you know, looking up his other films,

I don't think there's anything wrong with seeing the best ones first. Yeah, there isn't. They're just, I just, I want him to like it. That's all. I probably will. Alex, you had the same answer. Talked a little bit about it. Yeah, spirited away.

I haven't seen it for a while, but I was obsessed with that film. It's great. A bit younger. Yeah, it's really good. I also really like How's Moving Castle. I know it's not held in the same regard, but that was another one. I haven't seen it for a while, but that was definitely like a childhood movie for me that I really, really... Definitely.

That's my wife's favorite, too. She loves her film. I think it's magnificent. All-time favorite anime? Corey in the House. No one mentioned to Kira Well you know why? Because I haven't seen it Oh you haven't seen it? That's my answer

Is it okay great? Yeah there were people in the subreddit saying we should see it and I was almost thinking of picking it even though I've never seen it because I know I'm supposed to like it sort of thing You know? It's great It's wonderful It is it's fucking awesome I have a blueie but I haven't watched it yet I had never seen anime prior to college and I met this group of friends who watched it all the time We watched one anime where it started as like a political drama. And by the last episode, it was like they were in hell fighting Satan.

And Satan was just like fucking killing people and having sex with everyone. It was crazy. And then they showed me Akira. And it was like the coolest fucking movie I've ever seen. It was motorcycles and explosions. The end of the movie, which is this apocalyptic event. It's all hand drawn too, man. It's all hand drawn.

And the use of light in it was excellent. I know this. I'm not a big animation guy, so I don't study it as much. but I saw videos on it, like how they used light and interesting ways in animated film. Yeah, I love that movie. Yeah, I still need to,

I still need to see more anime's, you know? Yeah, that's how you pronounce it. Shut up. Yeah, it is. Anime. Yeah, I would have to say probably spirited away or Mononoke, but yeah, it's just, I haven't broadened my horizons so much.

I've seen quite a few, just not, it's not, I guess, a lot that I've really. If you want to see a great movie that's an anime feature film that is not Jaimeazaki, ignore the title. It sounds generic as fuck. It's called Vampire Hunter D. Bloodlust. It's amazing. Sounds like a porno. I know, it does.

Ignore the title. It's fucking incredible. It's violent. It has, it's amazing. I highly, highly suggest that. Definitely going to watch that one. A great soundtrack, too. And I know, Adam, you love to pay attention to the soundtracks.

Yeah, boy. Yeah, definitely check that one out. Gotta hunt that D. Look for the D. Oh, my God. There's a game called D4, where the main character is looking for the D the whole game. Okay, I'm not even kidding. I was watching, what was it?

Somebody showed this to me. One of my friends, I think it was an old episode of like, are you afraid of the dark or something? and there's a character named D, like D, E, and there's like a little 12-year-old boy who's like, I'm looking for D? I'm looking for D? And it's just, he does that for like a whole scene, and my, you know, very immature brain thought that was hilarious.

Yeah, same thing in Sleepless, Jamie Fox, his wife's name is D. What are you doing, D? Got to find D. And his son's name's T. So he's finding D and T. It ain't no crap. They got T.

Snatching grab, right? Yeah, you ain't no easy grab. They got too. Ralph, do you even know the impact you have? Like, with that, like, if you go to the IMDV page for sleep, I actually looked at that, like, the only quote listed for sleepless is done. Yes! I didn't know that.

Man, I'm a meme generator. I'm so proud. It's fucking great, dude. A memeologist. I think Alex is another question and you want to cut it off there because we're running. Yeah, we can end on this one from Yonkey 101 who says simple. What are your favorite title sequences? I feel like creative ones are really fun and complain to the movie.

Enter the void. That was mine. Yeah. That's why I showed it. It's because I needed to say it first. Yeah, exactly. Dude, the logic behind that was Gasper and I thought the movie was really long already. So he's like, let me make the title sequence really just fast.

And it was just fucking, what, a minute long. It was awesome. I highly recommend you check out the Center of the Void title sequence. It's on YouTube if you haven't seen it. Oh, it's so good. Old Boy has some great opening titles, the clock. James Bond movies have some great ones. I was going to say most of the James Bonn, Casino Oriale is one of my favorite Skyfall.

I love the opening to Psycho, of course, Albert Hitchcock's original Psycho, because that just set the tone for the movie, you know. I mean, like, with Bernard Herman's score. I know, I know this is one people mention a lot, but with Bernard Herman's themes in the background, it just lets you know that at some point in the film, that level of intensity is going to happen. And you're just, the film starts,

and you're waiting for that to happen. You're in this mode of tension for throughout the entire film until that first kill. And yeah, Bernard Herman's psycho main titles, great stuff. Itchy, the killer has a pretty good one. Sorry. Mine would be alien. I really like the opening.

That's a great one. Yeah, just slowly revealing the text really drags out, but it really sets the tone in the atmosphere. If you want to have a nice little arc for this whole podcast, the first Deadpool has really great main titles that I've always liked. I don't even remember. It was a parody of Specter.

Yeah, it's where like the credits are. like, you know, shot by some hack, you know, written by the real heroes. And it's like a slow-mo car turning over and he's like shooting people in the face. Yeah. Funny games. Oh, yeah. That's a great one. So good.

They listen to classical music and they play some like hard rock or something. Well, they don't. The movie does. Yeah, the movie is infiltrating their lives. Yeah, interesting. Star Wars. I mean, that's a classic. Yeah, of course.

Scott Pugram versus the world Yep It's another one Yeah I think that's it Oh fuck How could I forget Seven 7 has amazing opening titles

Oh yes That's a good one The Shining Oh I just remember that now A lot of Kubrick's Yeah Run Lola Run Run

Run A girl drag a tattoo Speaking of Fincher Yeah sure That's a great one It's kind of like a It's a James Bond opening but fucked up.

And that was it. We could just list a million. Yeah, we could just go on and on. We could go on forever. Some good choices there, boys. Well, we did it. Good job. We did it, boys.

We did it. Great job. All right, bye, everybody. Wait. I feel initiated into your club. Oh, good. This club has five members. Can I be a part of your club?

Yes. If you want. Yeah. But you have to say a prayer to call. to work out the contracts. Okay, okay, okay. Well, I'm happy. Alex, you had a film that you wanted to recommend, correct?

I certainly do. For next episode. I was torn between two. It was between a good film or one to talk to you guys with, and I've chosen to do a good one. Okay. I've chosen the Cowan Brothers movie, the man who wasn't there.

I don't know if you guys have seen it or not. Have you guys seen it yet? Yeah, haven't seen it yet. Wow. Okay, that's good. Right, nice. I'm on a roll with these. Awesome.

Yeah. I have not seen that either. Now I feel like it. Really? You can watch it before the next... Yeah, you can't discuss it. I can listen to us talk about it and leave a comment. Yeah.

Yeah, it's one no one really seems to talk about for some reason. So it should be good to dive into. Awesome. Nice. That's on criterion, right? Is it? Don't know. Don't have it here, mate.

All right. Well, if you had a region for you. Blu-ray player than you could. I just buy it on iTunes. It's fine. Yeah, this is true. All right, well, everybody, uh, torrented.

Everybody listening, if you want to participate in the discussion for next episode, go watch the fucking movie because we're going to spoil the shit out of it when we talk about it in next episode. Thank you all for listening. Uh, if you want to support the podcast, subscribe to our YouTube channels. Check out Chris Stuckman. Get Stuckmanized. Hey, come on.

you did that not me that was your thing you started it yeah some of us have Patreon campaigns if you want to support those too otherwise just subscribe to our YouTube channels thank you very much for joining thanks for being a great guest

stuck manized hey thank you guys honestly though this is really cool I've gotten to meet you Adam but I haven't got to meet the other two maybe one day that'd be cool I'll be in LA next year for film school so Oh shit. Nice. Yeah. We'll try to meet up and do something. Hell yeah. Make that short film about people eating their phones. It's happening. Get ready for it people. Do I get a writer's credit or what? Yeah, sure. We all get like a story by credit. Cool. Why not? Yeah. Can I be the main character? Can I eat a phone? Yeah, sure. Yeah. Please do. Yeah. All right. Method acting.

We'll work out the logistics later. Yeah. I'll start eating phones to prepare for this role. Okay. You might see a live tweet from the hospital at some point. Yeah. All right. Thank you, everybody. Bye-bye. Bye-bye.

Bye-bye.