Sardonicast - Sardonicast #13: Quinton Reviews, Happiness

Episode Date: August 5, 2018

Quinton's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCM0V... Website: https://sardonicast.com Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Sardonicast Twitter: https://twitter.com/sardonicast Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/sardonicast Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sardonicast Discord: https://discordapp.com/invite/9vG73zS Ralph's channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/ralphthe... Alex's channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/IHEOfficial Adam's channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/YourMovi... Alex's Twitter: https://twitter.com/IHE_OFFICIAL Ralph's Twitter: https://twitter.com/ralphsepe Adam's Twitter: https://twitter.com/2gay2lift Adam's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/YMS Ralph's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/ralphthemovie... Intro music by: https://www.youtube.com/user/anUnkind... Fan Art: https://www.reddit.com/r/Sardonicast/... https://www.reddit.com/r/Sardonicast/... Lindsay Ellis' Hobbit Series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTRUQ... Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 11:00 - Comic Con 21:25 - DC Movies and TV Shows 30:50 - Comic Con Continued 52:17 - Happiness (SPOILERS) 1:31:05 - Q&A Adum's film recommendation for next episode is Fantastic Planet (1973).

Three, two, one. Hello, my future girlfriend. This is what I sound like. I am 11 years old in the sixth grade in New Mexico. Please PM me if I'm on Yahoo chat. Bye. Thanks for stopping. Bye.

Who is this? Exactly. I figured that meme would be way too fucking old for you guys. But anyway, it's called Kid Wales. There was a website. We're Sardonicast, by the. way I just confused the shit out of everybody. There was a website back in early internet days of some kid that was trying to get a girlfriend and it was this

really weird school photo and I was hoping I was hoping that at least one of you would get it but looks like it's it looks like I'm no cool real babies everybody that's an obscure meme it's too obscure for all you you can find it on YouTube anyway I'm Adam from your movie sucks I'm Ralph from Ralph the movie maker YouTube I'm Alex from I hear everything and we're joined by I'm Quinton Reviews from YouTube.com slash Quentin Reviews kitchen sinks nice hmm is that really you'll put that promotion in I've been dying to ask this question okay is is your channel called Quentin reviews because

your name is Quentin no this is the most awkward podcast. Start and strong. No. No. Okay, so no. Elaborate. So I actually wanted to ask a question to you guys.

It was always funny when I started the channel. I wanted to have a title that was like a series title, you know? Mm-hmm. And so, no, the correct answer is that indeed it was that I was like Quinton Reviews. It'll be like the start of a sentence. So it'll be like, Quinton reviews this movie. Mm-hmm. And it was a really surreal day when people started to refer to that as my name.

Did you guys ever have that moment where, like, I Hate Everything Went from being the title, something you worked on to being what people called you? Yeah, I own it, though. I'm like, yeah, I'm YMS. I'm the YMS guy. I don't even mind. Yeah, I own it too. I don't give a shit.

I love it. When did you start the YouTube's? Oh, so I started, I did a couple videos in 2013. when I was 16 years old and those were very embarrassing because I was 16 years old so you can't find you won't find those but after I graduated high school I started doing them again

and that was in January 2016 was when I did my first modern video for the channel What was that? Do anybody hear that noise? Yeah no I didn't It might not show up on the recording Have we in unfriend it right now? Uh-oh.

The glitch just typed. It's a Skype ghost. Yeah, there's a really weird gritty noise. Dude, this is Darknet. You know, I think in the trailer he said it was Dark Web. He did. In the movie, it's Darknet. I was like, what the fuck?

That's the only reason I saw this movie is for that one. The original title wasn't Dark Web. It was unfriended Game Night, but then Game Night came out. And then they decided, oh, what's a cool title? Oh, yeah, it's about the Darknet. Let's name it Darknet. But then they're like, ah, darknet sounds kind of lame, even though we already filmed the movie and they only ever say dark net. So they changed the trailer to dark web so that the title could be dark web?

Why don't change the movie then? I don't know. Change the movie to dark web. I don't know. They already did have to work. Who here saw that movie, by the way, if we're going to talk about that, because I did. Not me. No, me.

Okay, just Ralph. Oh, that's sad. It's great. I mean, there's not much to talk about because I don't want to spoil it for you guys. Yeah, sure. There'll be a review out anyway. Let's From you?

Yes. Well, at least I'm looking forward to a lovely. Yeah, I'll come out with a quickie at some point soon, but I'm thinking I might want to do something more when it's out Because it is equally as frustrating as the first film. I can't believe they released out of theater, honestly. It's so funny.

This is the cheapest and laziest movie I've seen in a theater in a long time. Hot garbage. Yet they chose to release it. Hot garbage. And I relied on a gimmick that people got sick of after. the first unfriended. I don't want to pay money for it. I don't want to pay money to that kind of shit.

Because it didn't even look funny to me. Was it funny at least? It was hilarious for me. I thought it was funny. It's a movie that's like... You know what? There's some funny stuff in it. Like the hacker guy having like he has a pitch shifted voice that's like really deep.

And it sounds fucking hilarious. And how like the hacker guy whose identity is supposed to be secret uses face cam. Yeah. Like he's using. FaceTime for no reason. The Facebook messages that can delete themselves. And how like apparently nobody owns a phone and they can't text each other any of this shit. It's like, oh no, the hacker can see my screen.

I can't tell anyone what's going on. Just fucking text them. The hackers are watching the whole time. All right. Anyway. We're spoilt too much. But yeah, point is, it's great movie. Check it out.

What now. Yeah, you really sold me on it. What I've always struggled with as of recent, I guess, is that I don't really do hot takes anymore because they don't do as well on my channel. So it's kind of hard to justify going to see a movie that I know is going to be terrible but it's probably going to do well financially you know? Well

Jason Blum movies are almost guaranteed to do well financially because they're so fucking cheap, you know? Which is a good thing if the movie's good, but I mean it's a mixed bag. Sometimes you get whiplash and sometimes you get unfriended to.

Once in a blue moon. Yeah. It's a business model that does help some filmmakers break through, but it allows for a lot of shit. Yep. People love it. Do you guys ever get sick of going to the cinema? Sometimes I find it just such a rigmarole.

I don't know how close it is to you, but I have to drive for like 30 minutes. A rigmarole, that's a British word. It means it's like a fath. It's a what? It's a faf. Do you know what fath is? Oh no, you're using more brimmarole.

British words. Oh, that's even worse. A hassle. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'm speaking my language. There we go. Yeah, because you spend 30 minutes

drive in there. You've got to find a park. You get inside, and then you sit there for 30 minutes while the same ads that you saw the last time play. Oh, yeah. That's always fun.

Yeah. I hate that shit. I'm just so sick of it. And then if the film sucks, it's like, well, it's money and time wasted. I just go for a piss, usually when the ads are playing, so.

Yeah, me too. I just get there. I get there usually late. Get my drink or whatever. I'm like a five-minute walk from the theater, so I just show up. Do my movie pass thing. I love movie pass, by the way. I think it's fantastic. And then I just go to the theater and just chill out.

I sometimes find the trailers to be a little comforting, actually. The repetition of them? The fact that it's like the one part of where you can just riff it with your friends kind of more loudly than normal. Yeah, that's what's cool about it. That's what I like about that. Depends on the trailer for me. Yeah, sure, but you always get an audience reaction, which is interesting.

And I live in like a small state, so I really love the weird hokey ads. You get to the start? Like, I know Ralph, of course, like, what was it, the couch guy? Oh, Jordan's furniture. And he told us about how the IMAX seats are made out of tempapedic memory foam, and that you can get it in the sofas he's selling outside the theater. It's fucking great. I love that place.

It's definitely a must-see if you're in that area. Mm-hmm. It's awesome. I can deal with the trailers, but it's the endless car adverts. I don't know if it's like... Yeah. But it's like these ridiculous car adverts with these huge budgets that sometimes have better special effects than the film is about to play.

And then they play them for forever because it's like, well, we spend all this money on this car ad. They'll play them for an entire fucking year. Most of the time, the car ads disguising themselves as movie ads look better than the movie ads. Yeah. Some of them. Yeah. I feel like every fucking car ad is one of the... of those, it's a commercial where

you can, well, not every single one, but so many of them, you don't even know it's about a car until the end, because it's trying to advertise a lifestyle or a personality. Like, oh yeah, this is like a hip trendy setting environment friends, blah, blah, blah. Oh, bam,

at the end, it's a car. Or like you're in the outdoors, camping, family. Oh, bam, it's an SUV. You know, like, because we've run out of ways to advertise features because every car basically does the same thing except maybe Tesla at this point, which they don't even need to make those kind of ads

because people are hyping it up by themselves. You know, where's the innovation in the industry at this point? That's, that's advertising, though. It's never been about the car. It's about making a memorable ad. And then the car is like just a part of it. They'd be able to advertise features if they had features to advertise, you know?

That should be the selling point. But who gives a fuck about the features? Not really. I don't care. It all does the same shit, like you said. You might as well just make a memorable ad. Elon Musk gives a shit about the features, Ralph. Sure, and that's why Elon Musk is the best, but I can't expect everyone to be Elon Musk. They keep directors employed these silly ads, so God bless them.

When you guys remember an ad that you saw for a car, do you remember what car it was, or do you remember every other element of the ad? And then you're like, wait, what car was, were they even advertising there? I think I would if I was a car person. Yeah, exactly. If I gave a shit about cars, then I would totally remember, but I don't. I just, I have something that gets me from point A to point B, and it's dependable, and I'm happy about it. It's not new.

It's not fancy. It's a hand-me-down, whatever. Yeah, it's simple. You want the bare-bones car, but then they advertise, like you said, the lifestyle. Oh, if you're a mom with two kids, get this van. And it works. It always works. Yeah.

You see fucking all the moms have that van, and then all the cool. Dad's going through a midlife crisis, have some fucking convertible. If you're a fucking freak, get the Honda element. Drive around a fucking cube. Yeah. And if you want your car to explode, you get a Tesla. It's not going to be aerodynamic or anything. It's not going to have much functionality.

It might just be bigger on the inside, but it's going to look like shit. You want to drive a car that looks like shit? Feel proud about it? This is the car for you. You feel very strongly about that. I just don't like cube cars. Speaking of Advert

So Comic-Con Just squirted out a bunch of trailers I don't know if you guys Want to talk about any of those A lot of them were pretty funny in my opinion Oh yeah Yeah

Yeah I liked what I saw of I'm a big fan of The character of Captain Marvel A.k.a Shazam Which I've never understood how it works He's called Shazam

Because like Him saying Shazam turns him into the hero. So I don't know how anyone figured out that was his name. He couldn't like tell to the press. Because they didn't want a lawsuit. Yeah. I saw the trailer for that and I thought that looked really funny and really brilliant.

You see, my thing about superhero movies is I think it's really frustrating how it seems like it's got this, a lot of those, the comics and the movies have this weird WWE aspect where people pretend like the most interesting aspects of the characters are like, this one is the strongest or this one is the fastest. And one of the reasons I've always liked Shazam slash Captain Marvel is that he's just like a cool idea for a superhero, like a very young child that turns into like this Superman-esque hero and has to figure it out. I just think as a premise that's really promising and it honestly looks like one of the best DC films they put together so far. That's the issue. Is that it's DC?

I'm like, all right, you guys haven't made a good movie and I keep giving you chances and you never do it. And now they're like copying the Spider-Man formula and hoping that would work. So sure. I don't know. I'm really not looking forward to what they're doing I mean I live better than Aquaman I mean again it's a trailer so I can't look at that film conceptually without thinking of like Really awkward or weird moral implications that could arise if it wasn't a PG-13 movie Like he basically just skipped puberty right? I don't know what is he allowed to fuck little girls? Is he still like a boy on the inside? Oh Oh, it happened. These are not things...

Are these things mentioned in the comic, Quentin? I don't know. You'd know if anybody. Um, I haven't, like, read all the source material. I know for a while, it used to be two separate characters. Like, the kid would turn into Captain Marvel, but they were still different characters. Oh. So it was like, it was like a Jekyll and Hyde thing.

So, like, it's not like Captain Marvel was immature. I think in the 90s, they changed it so that it was still like, so that it's one, it's character. I think it's Billy Baston. Is that right? I don't know. Does he have like a tolerance to alcohol or would it just be like he gets shit-faced after one drink? See, these are the things I think about, you know? When you, well, there is, I want to know everything. I think in the trailer, I think in the trailer you see him buying alcohol. So I guess we'll find out. Yeah, I guess so. It looks a lot more lighthearted than any other DC thing that I've seen. I certainly think so. But that doesn't, again, it's It's just a trailer where that doesn't mean it's going to be good. I have no faith in these people. Didn't they like abandon everything?

Aren't they doing like a huge workaround now? They're like abandoning all the shit that they're coming out. I don't know what's happening anymore. Oh man, what do you take of Aquaman? It looks hilarious. That was the one trailer I didn't get to watch because I don't I don't know if I mentioned this but I was on vacation a couple days before this and there's an interesting story that I'll tell later about that.

But the poster is Hilariously bad It's like tinted blue and there's like these stock images of 3d sharks Yeah, there's some good images Special effects that look like it looks like something from like one of the bad Jaws sequels that no one talks about Yeah, yeah I mean you haven't seen the trailer, but as someone who has I can say that the actual film looks just as bad if not worse It looks terrible I'm hyped for it

Oh, yeah. That's something that I could actually see because it looks funny. Like, why would you even make a film about Aquaman in the first place? He's a meme. Yeah, everybody hates him. For the meme. Every single pop culture reference to Aquaman post-1960s has been like, ha-ha, what a fucking lame superhero.

Yeah. You know? Like him and Kiteman are almost in the same level. Yeah, what the fuck? They tried to overdo it. Like, they're really compensating. They should have just, yeah, yeah. It's like a movie compensating for having a small dick.

It's just like, look how badass he is. It's Jason. I'm always. got no shirt. He's a badass. He's got a big beard. It's like Aquaman still fucking sucks, dude. There's nothing you can do to make me not laugh at this character. They're trying to use every superhero that they have.

Uh-huh. Some of them are kind of lame. I think you can make a good movie out of it. I just don't think the direction they went is the direction that they should have gone. I don't know. I don't know how you make a good movie out of it unless you make it like 22 Jump Street or something where it's just a total joke. It must be so tongue-in-cheek. Yeah. But that doesn't fit with the rest of it at all.

right what they're trying to do with the testers and that's the problem with the cinematic universe for me I talked about this in my in my very in the moment review of the latest Avengers film which I don't even know if I agree with my review anymore but I talked about the fact that like I think the biggest problem with comics is that there were these superhero events

that made the universe so consistent that a lot of cool comics were just like copy and paste in terms of the formula and tone of other comics like all of the DC comics said in New York have to keep within the same continuity, you know. And I feel bad for filmmakers trying to make interesting stories within the DC universe knowing that they also have to like, they have to stick to all the other previous movies. Like you couldn't see Justice League and then make a good Aquaman movie.

Like you don't have the artistic freedom to, I think. Yeah. It's like this weird middle ground where all the movies suck, but there's no consistency between them. at this point where they basically just jump from genre to genre based on what character they're tackling. So it's like you're not even making a consistently good series. Like Star Wars has maintained relatively consistent up till the new ones in terms of the quality and the genre and the tone of them.

And it's like, you can't- What do you mean up to the new ones? We disagree. And I was waiting for Alex to say it first. Okay. Well, let Alex tell me off. Let's go. There are two, like, perfect Star Wars movies, then it's just, you know, whatever.

The third one is not bad. The third one isn't like this. It's not like this fucking disaster mess. Like, some of the prequel. It's just weird. Yeah. Two perfect Star Wars movies. Episode 1 and episode 2.

We just have 1,000 more comments because we mentioned Star Wars, so, yeah. Hell yeah. Let's just all agree that the, let's just all agree that the Star Wars holiday special we're agreeing is the one of the ones that's good, right? Yeah, it's the best story. Because I have a same. Perfect ones. I kind of disagree with the idea that it's bad for a fictional universe to have inconsistently toned stories. I think that's one of the cooler ideas.

I like the idea of like Squirrel Girl and Iron Man existing within the same universe. Oh yeah. I forgot about Squirrel Girl. The furry. Of course, I'm a Doctor Who fan, so I have to be used to that. But go on it. The Marvel ones are consistent in terms of the tone. But you don't really

From the get-go though You wouldn't think after Ironman And then that Hulk movie That eventually there'd be a film with a CG raccoon and a tree And that would somehow meld well with it Sure but they all follow the same template They're all like superhero action comedies

That's what they all are And even the darker ones are that Rest in Peace James Gunn Yeah rest and peace James gone Yeah, we hardly knew ye but I don't know what they're going to do with Guardians 3 now. Well, I'm assuming he wrote it already. Yeah, okay, that's good at least.

I mean, they're just going to throw it to somebody else. I think it's, I don't think it's going to be so wildly different. That's never worked out. That's the thing. I don't like where Marvel's headed this year. I mean, I liked Infinity War. I didn't like Black Panther that much. And Ant Man, I don't know if we could talk about Ant Man.

I think we've all seen it, right? I refuse to, but I am comfortable with you telling me everything about it because I'm never going to see it. You're never going to watch it anyway. I'm never going to watch it. You never need to see it. I will go on the record to say that I like the first Infinity War, I think. And I think the second one is destined to be bad. Because all the characters I like are...

Why is that? All the characters I like, I think, are crumpled up leaves. And I feel like the conclusion's going to be kind of unsatisfying, I think. No, I don't feel that way at all. What do you mean the best characters are leaves? The Captain America's... Spoiler warning. Spoiler warning for Infinity War.

Yeah, everyone's seen. I'm excited to see a conclusion to Captain American Iron Man. And I guess the raccoon, he's pretty cool. Rocket. Yeah, Rocket's alive. Come on. I don't know if I'm too excited about it. Because these are like ensemble films.

So the gimmick is it's like seven films running at once. If all seven of the films aren't great, the movie's going to be kind of bad. So if I'm not super invested in Captain Marvel, the other Captain Marvel, you know? I don't know. I agree with you, Quentin. I don't have very low expectations, but I'll agree that all of my favorite characters are not going to play prominent roles in the next film, which I think I mentioned this when we were talking about Infinity War on an earlier episode, and I think you, Alex, and Ralph

said that your favorite characters were of the remaining. Yeah, those are all my favorites. Yeah, the originals. With the exception of Spider-Man. I disagree. Oh, Thor's still there. Like, Spider-Man's only No. I like Thor.

Yeah, Thor is good now. Like, Thor's good. Yeah, Thor used to be like the worst one, and now he's like the best one. Uh-huh. Because he's actually a character now. He's not like a joke. What were we talking about? Oh, like, Ralph was saying he didn't like the direction we were going in.

What we were talking about before that? Well, we were talking about trailers. We got into Aquaman. We got into extended universes and how he can't have consistent tones. I have a list of Comic-Con. Yeah. I have the Comic-Con trailers if I can just list them off. Yeah.

I haven't seen all of them. Before you do that... There's like hardly anything else of... What about... Did you guys see... It's funny of other stuff. Did you guys see the trailer for Titans? Yes.

It looks... It looks so bad. Have you ever seen... It looks terrible. Have you ever seen like when like a group of fans who are barely... Like, some... One of them graduated film school, they make like a trailer for, I don't know,

like live action Captain Planet or something. And you're like, that looks kind of good, but mostly they're just like filming cosplayers at cool angles and adding in terrible special effects. Yeah. Like that, that is better than whatever they gave us with the Titans trailer.

It looks like a fan film. It looks hilarious. Looks really funny. I don't know if this is, oh my God. I don't know if this is, um, oh yeah, that was funny. But is it, to me it just looked like to all the other DC TV shows.

Yeah, honestly. Any of those? Like the, no, I have. I have. Green, green hour of flash. They all look terrible. The one with John Perchway's son. Dude, they're hilarious.

Find a clip from the flash of like, it's either a gorilla or a shark, like, a huge CG shark, like crashes through a building and, like, it uses the entire budget for the whole season. And it's just so dumb. It looks, and this Titans thing looks no different to me. I know there are fans of these TV shows,

but I'm one of them. It's made for younger, like, teenagers, I think. But, like, I saw Supergirl. That shit is terrible. It's so cheap looking. The effects are so bad. Yeah. That's what I mean, all these DC shows.

The writing is horrendous. Yeah, they're all that bad. From what I've heard, what's considered the better one? Like Flash or Arrow? Those are considered a better one. I think it's Green Arrow and the Flash. Yeah. Those are the ones that are considered good.

And I'm like, really? Those are just, those look just as bad as the rest of them. But I've heard people say that CW is now at a point where it's like, it's really hard to just watch one of the shows. Yeah, they're all connected now. Yeah. It's gone to that level of cinema. about it man universe connectedness yeah which is really annoying so now you have to watch all this shit to make it make sense to you as if watching one of these bad shows isn't enough are we

gonna be playing like brief clips of the trailers in this bit no no no we don't do that we don't have the budget for that we're not in the same room anyway yeah haven't noticed I just wanted to ask because like I just wanted to bring up the sound design in the tightness trailer specifically although it's a other thing to bring up. It's so bad. There's this moment where, like, Robin's just firing away at the people in the alleyway. And then there's, like, someone on the ground, and Robin steps on, like, his cheek really lightly.

And it just makes the loudest, like, bone snapping sound you've ever heard. Oh, I have seen that. That's right. It was on Twitter. Someone put it on Twitter. It might have been one of you. Yeah, it was me. Oh, maybe.

Oh, there you go. Wasn't me. Speaking of incredibly inconsistent tones, though, I think we failed to mention the most important example of that. Suicide Squad, you know? Yeah, well, that's within the own movie. They couldn't even maintain a consistent tone. And that's what I mean.

That's what DC always does. They make a, they don't know what to do with themselves, so they just make a bunch of shit. I was thinking about this the other day, that I think out of every film mentioned on this podcast, we've mentioned Suicide Squad, more than anything, because it's always relevant, you know. It's a very special, very impactful film that has changed cinema.

Oh, I see. It has changed the way we view things. It is so incredibly bad, I think about it sometimes. Because it's not just that the writing is terrible, because it is. It's not just that it's copy and paste plot from every other superhero movie when it could have been unique. It's also that, like, the editing is atrocious and it's, like, hard to watch, and the music is terrible. And it's an ugly-looking movie. Like, anything that could be wrong with a movie is in Suicide Squad, and that's why it's always brought up.

Because it's like, whenever you mention a flaw with something else, you go, oh, yeah, that's in Suicide Squad too. Yeah, exactly. It's a shining example. Yeah, it's a shining example of how you can do everything wrong. With a very passionate fan base. Oh, yeah. People love that film. Oh, yeah.

I was walking down the street the other day, and I looked in someone's window, and they were fucking watching it. You said it like, you were horrified. This motherfucker's watching this. It's one thing to watch it. It's another thing to buy all of the merchandise and memorabilia. You know, like they sell a bunch of suicide squad posters at like Hot Topic and shit and like iPhone cases with Jared Lettos the Joker. It's pretty good. I mean, I guess I can't judge people too hard.

Yeah, of course that. I'm glad they enjoy it. I'm always happy people enjoy things. I just, I can't enjoy that. Yeah, me neither. And I gave my reasons why. because it's a disaster Did you even see the extended cut?

Oh God Extended cut? I forgot that existed. There's an extended cut? Yeah, of course. Like that's a Snyder cut in a DC movie that exists. I didn't even know there was an extended cut. It's a marketing strategy so that when

it gets really terrible reviews in theaters, people will go like, oh yeah, but the extended cut will fix everything. It'll totally make a different movie guys. And it's usually worse. Yeah. It's just more. It's just more.

Yeah, it's just more of the same crap. Yeah. Yeah, there are still people begging. Oh, I thought Batman v. Superman was like, I didn't see the original cut, but I think I sort of gleamed what was and wasn't there. And I felt like, I feel like there's a, there's like a good movie hidden in Batman v. Superman. I like a lot of it.

I kind of like the fight between the characters, how it's sort of set up in a way where they're both right and they're both wrong. I just hate, like, I hate Lois Lane, the movie, you know? Yeah, her whole subplot was the most boring thing. And she did nothing. Yeah, and I feel like even if the extended cut adds in more cool stuff that I like, you know, like the morality, there's that whole morality thing with Batman, like basically, you know, marking people so that they can be killed in jail. Like, yeah, that's a big question morality. I thought that was kind of interesting.

Even if I like that, they didn't, the extended cut doesn't take out scenes with Lois Lane, you know? Yeah. And looking back on it, Batman versus Superman's one of the better ones. Not saying it's good. But there are things like that, like you said, with potential. There was... It's got a couple of decent moments, but it's pretty painful to watch still. There's some well-shot stuff in it, I like.

I agree. I think when I think of the characters in terms of being... Like, when I think cinematic Superman, I don't think Christopher Reeves. I think that shot a Superman flying down with the thing he's carrying over his head. I can't remember what it is. Oh, the rocket ship that he's like saved. I think of Batman. I honestly do think...

I do think of Ben Affleck in the suit. I think he felt. fills it out really well. No. You lost me there. So you think, like, the best version of Superman, what you picture Superman in your head is Henry Cavill carrying that CG spaceship? I can't agree with you there.

I can't, I don't see it. Because that shot was, like, fucking miserable looking. Superman looked miserable. Okay. It looked like he was, like, he was posing for some fucking, like, edgy teen magazine. I want, I want goofy Superman who, like, goes around the, planet a bunch of times really fast to rewind time. I love that shit. And that's why you can't get Superman and Batman in the same room because why I like Batman and Superman are very different

reasons. But that's just me. My biggest problem with Suicide Squad was sort of that was that like can you can you imagine the Suicide Squad Joker and the Batman be Superman Batman like being in a scene together? Like that's that's the greatest representation of how tonally dissent these films are, you know? That this film's version of the Joker and this film's version of Batman do not seem like they're from the same universe. Yeah, because again, there's no consistency. There's no one behind the scenes going like, this Joker and this Batman need to work together.

You can't just let Jared Leto do whatever the fuck he wants. I love Jared Leto, but what he came up with was stupid. And it was terrible representation of the Joker, and there's not an ounce of subtlety to it. But he damaged, so I have damaged on my forehead. Like, get that. Oh, yeah, he sent him pigs. I'm like, great.

That doesn't make you a good actor. That doesn't make this performance good. I don't buy you. as the Joker. And now they're redoing it, right, with Joaquin Phoenix? Well, there are probably two Joker movies in the works. That could be interesting. You know, I love Joaquin Phoenix.

I've never seen him do a bad job in anything, honestly. No. That would be awesome. But DC in the mix there? You never know what's possible. I don't know. Because, I mean, I've never seen Tom Hardy do anything bad until the Venom trailer. And that's not DC.

What about that romantic comedy he was in? Oh, I don't know. What are you talking about? Oh, that doesn't count. he was he made a movie he was his agents his agents like why don't you do a romantic comedy because they make money he made some money that doesn't count okay okay okay okay by that logic adam sam was never been in a bad movie yeah given that you are correct no but like adam sandler is the driving vehicle behind his own movies like his movies don't exist without him and he goes like all right i want to make jack and jill this is my next project that's what makes him

he wants to go on holiday yeah exactly so that's an entirely different kind of hacky, hacky actor. Like, Tom Hardy's just taking a paycheck, and he's like, I'm going to do my best, so I'll act like my character in the drop. Anything else of note from Comic Man, whatever? Comic Man? No, I can list a few other trailers, because there are some good things. Oh, yeah, there's the trailer for...

Better Call Saul, Season 4. I didn't know there's a trailer for it. Yeah, it looks pretty cool. I know you guys... Well, Quentin, do you watch it? I know Adam doesn't. I'm not on that. I'm pretty behind on that, you know? I haven't watched a lot of the original either.

Of Breaking Bad? Yeah. Ooh, boy, you gotta get on it. It's on Netflix in 4K and nowhere else in 4K. You get it on Blu-ray. No, you can't get it on 4K. Probably not 4K. Yeah, it's on Netflix and 4K though.

It's interesting. Under the Skin is on Netflix. It just got added. Hell yeah. Watch that too. Oh shit. There's a new fucking David Farrier documentary on Netflix. The guy that made Tickled?

Yeah? Yeah. Oh. I haven't seen it yet, but I need to do that sometime this week. The creator of The Simpsons and Futurama, that Groening has a new show going to Netflix. Is it a show? Graining. Is it a graining or groaning?

I know it's pronounced weird. It's not pronounced how it's spelled, but it's definitely graining. Okay. Is that a Netflix show or what? I don't know if it's a show or a movie, but I mean, it's the fucking guy who made Futurama. Futurama is the best. Yeah, Futurama's great. I'm looking forward to that.

Walk of Dead looks like shit. There's a trailer for the new M-night movie. Yeah, glass. Oh, yeah. Didn't see it. It's literally just a trailer that's being like, hey, this movie is being made. I mean, it shows clips, but there's nothing from the clips that says what the quality of the film will be, honestly. Oh, okay.

I mean, it's M. Knight, so how back can it be? It's coming out in January. I'm excited. Yeah. Fucking hype. Yeah. And that's it. There's other things.

There's Godzilla, but no one gives a fuck. Oh, yeah. Fantastic beast. No one gives a shit. Yeah. Yeah. Doctor Who with a woman this time. Oh, I love that.

Yeah. Looks really good. Sorry about that then. Oh, um, Doctor Who's a woman now and, uh, I don't know. It's just, I really like, uh, I really like whenever they're able to, to, to reboot the show and, like a soft reboot. And allow new people to get on. and as a fan of the older version of the show,

I know that TARDIS teams that are four people tend to work really well because I think it's like two people, it's not as interesting, and they tend to do something boring, like have the doctor be in love with his companion or something. But when you got like four people in the ship, you know, there's all kinds of dynamics you can pull.

And they've got three companions this year, so I think that'll be really interesting. It just looks really good, honestly. Yeah, I've never watched Doctor Who. Is it a big thing there, Alex? I mean, I assume... Oh, it's huge. Yeah, of course that is huge.

I'm always asked about it, but I stopped watching it years ago. The guy with a big forehead was the doctor. It's all you guys got. It's been going on forever, so... And you got Sherlock Holmes. Well, that's not a thing anymore. Well, I mean, I guess you have the character... That last season was awful.

Sherlock is supposed to be over now. Well, we got Sherlock Nomes now. Yeah, Sherlock Holmes. I watched that the other day. Oh, you did? Was it good? Uh, yeah. Yeah?

Oh, what? Then why did you put it in a poll for search for the worst? No, it's not good. I'm joking. Oh, okay. I'm joking, it's not good. I watched the original today as well for a bit of extra context. Oh.

Yeah. Oh, those are. Jason Stathoms in that. Those are an extended universe. Yeah, they're sequels. Yeah, at the beginning of the second one, they're like. Maybe the next one will be Spider-Man Gnome coming

That's one of the jokes in the movie Good one Great Pointless film, don't watch it pretty much I want to ask our guest What's your favorite movie Hmm That's a good question

I always struggle questions like that Do you have favorites? It's funny So when I think the sentence Like really good movie I think yellow submarine and then my second thought is you can't say that out loud people are going to think you're an idiot you know well too late what else pops into your head i really liked um shashank redemption

it's you know it's the funny thing where when you ask someone what's your favorite movie they don't ask like i say this half-heartedly like the scientifically measurably good film they say like the one that they have the biggest emotional attachment to it favorite is different from what you consider to be the best movie of all time you know yeah exactly but it's hard to objectively judge what is the best movie of all time. So it's a silly question. I mean, it's Shrek 2. Yeah.

I mean, if you're going to do the math, it ends up being Shrek too. Yeah. I mean, that was studied. That was like a five-year-long study at Harvard, I think. Oh, cool. They determined mathematically that it was Shrek 2. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Like, your answer for Best Movie, Quentin will be, like, different two years from now.

Just like mine will be. Mine used to be Goodfellas, and now it's under the skin. Oh, really? second it's just that's that's that long since you said it on the podcast i know okay that's what happens really like two years before it was yeah and then two years before it was pulp fiction cool it's like asking what your favorite song is like i or what your favorite music band is even like it really depends on whoever i've been listening to that week i'm just going to give you the answer of whatever song i've listened to the most that week you know i've had the same favorite band and movie for

the past 10 years though yeah yeah you're an accept Yeah, I always am I'm also younger Adam So like I'm still discovering movies that are like Oh shit, I've never seen this before And it's fucking amazing And you're like a 30 year old cynical hack Yeah

Not quite 30 at that The rest is true I'm not quite 30 though You're close to it Closer to it than me But yeah it's a great feeling Just discovering stuff Yeah being young

discovering these stuff. It's almost over. It's almost over. There's no age that you stop discovering shit. Well, there is, but there's no age where you should stop discovering shit. Like they've done polls to find out that people just stop listening to new bands after the age of 30 or some shit. But it's like, I don't want to be that guy. I want to keep discovering shit.

Of course not. You know, but like when you're young. But I think most people just find a sense of comfort in things that they're familiar with. Yeah, exactly. That's what it is. when you're young, you discover all these things because you want to find out what you like. And you're much more susceptible

to making a movie be your favorite when you're that young. Like I saw under the skin in a theater and I'd never seen a movie like that in my life in a theater. I was like, what the fuck is this? This is incredible. Whereas if I was born 50 years before that, I would have seen 2001, you know,

and what I had the same reaction. And like, I didn't have that same reaction in 2001 because I just watched it on TV. It's totally, you know, you can't judge it. It's always changing. Yeah, it's all about context as well and, like, the atmosphere you live in. Like, I watched Citizen Kane recently. You know, Ebert famously paraded that as his favorite movie of all time.

And I thought it was really good, but because I didn't grow up in a context without Citizen Kane, like, I don't know if I could ever call it, like, my favorite movie of all time. Yeah, because it's just an emotional... Movies were so different back then. Yeah. It started a trend for sure Partially like so many movies are inspired by Cidson Cain that probably feels a little bit less special

To like people like us and it did Yeah that's it too When I came out nothing existed like it Now it's like everything wants to be that So it's a good point It started narrative structures that now is pretty much every movie Like before then it was just like You look at you look at like Walt Disney's Dumbo

Such a mess story wise It's like what's the you know like all these things that you're familiar with seeing in terms of like progression or like act structure etc those didn't really exist if you go back far enough it was just people fucking around with a camera and doing funny things or weird things yeah yeah and then hoping that it's so much more unique that's what made people love them and now it's like they take that same concept and let's remake it but do the Hollywood template and then you get like the nutcracker remake which is coming out where it looks like an action adventure that Hollywood just shit out

yeah it's like you're gonna do this again you're just gonna take the nutcracker and add fucking action scenes to it yeah who cares that was a weird trailer cares i was trying to guess what it was the whole time and then i was like oh yeah the nutcracker great yeah i'm i'm getting tired of the disney live action reboots they're doing of what they take like a cutesy disney cartoon and then they do like an almost shot from a shot remake, except they make it look like dark and edgy. Is there a helicopter outside someone's house? It feels like it's not you this time.

No, it's not me. Sounds like a black hawk is outside your house. I think my neighbor is mowing his lawn. Oh, okay. I apologize. I am, uh, I cannot even express to you how not excited I am for the Lion King, John Favro movie. I don't even understand that.

It's going to be like 100% animated. What is the appeal? Yeah, quote unquote, live action. Maybe they'll throw Mowgli in there. I don't know. And like, it's going to look fantastic. The CGI is going to be great. It's going to be one of the most groundbreaking achievements in CGIE ever.

But who gives a fuck? Who gives a fuck about the story? I can't wait to hear John Oliver voice Zazu. Yeah. I'm excited to hear Eric Andre, but... Oh, yeah. What's he doing again? I don't know who he's doing, but Eric Andre is a little.

He's doing a hyena. He's doing one of the hyenas. Oh, great. Okay, that'll be fun. I love him. But yeah, what bugs me about it is, like, they didn't completely recycle every cast member. They've still got James Earl Jones because they're like, yeah, it's Mufasa. But they, I mean, Rowan Atkinson's still alive. Jeremy Irons is still alive.

Why don't you get them? Because no one cares about them. They're old. We need John Oliver. And is Beyonce in it or something? James Earl Jones isn't not old? Yes. Get Kesha and Ariana Grande in it too. Why not? Just get them all.

Got the guy from 12 Years of Slave voicing Skar now. Chihil Elphaljor. I don't know how to pronounce his name at all. Yeah, I don't know how to pronounce his name either. I hope he does a good job. I want to butcher this guy's. He will do, because he's a great actor that guy. Yeah. It won't be the same though. I thought a real low point for this trend was, or just in terms of I didn't understand what they were going for, was like the Into the Woods reboot.

I didn't even know that was anything beforehand. Well, it was a musical, and I was thought the appeal of Into the Woods the Musical and Swinney Todd the musical, because it's like the same guy. James Lapine, I think. I thought the appeal of them when you watch the recordings of them from the 80s,

the gimmick is that it's like really dark, but it's presented in a really cutesy way. Like Swinney Todd has this, almost like Donald Duck presentation, but it's about this guy murdering people and making them into pies. And into the woods, it's presented like this cutesy Disney fairy tale. And then these people come in and they're like, well, what if we take those plays and we adapt them and we make them look dark and gritty? Wouldn't that be clever? And I'm like, no, you just took the clever part out. Why did you do that? You know?

The tone is what makes it so unique. And then they're just like, oh, let's make a generic, dramatic. Johnny Depp. It's dark. Johnny Depp. The reason why this is happening is because the executives fully understand that nostalgia cash grabs are sellable. And so, you know, especially, you know, after Toy Story 3 showing like, oh, no, the characters are getting old now. And ever since then, it's been, you know, we're getting the new Christopher Robin movie like, oh, no, he's old and poo is old. Isn't it so sad? Like, all your childhood isn't a part of you anymore. your old audience member, you're getting old.

It's insulting. It really is. And so how do you transform a kids movie into a movie that's aimed at older audiences? You just make it darker and grittier kind of. But kids can watch it. Live action. Cartoons aren't for adults. You have to make it live action.

Yeah. Fuck that noise. Like, Wendy of the Poo should not be live action. I'm sorry. Most of these things shouldn't be. They watch these animated things. I think that looks kind of cute. I'm really, I'm really, I'm really hate for that.

That looks like total manipulative fucking garbage for me. And I like Winnie the Pooh. I grew up watching Winnie the Pooh. So it's like, the Disney executives are like, we need a live action, one of the poo movie. What kind of fucking crap can you come up with? Getty M. McGregor in it? Sure.

He's a star. People like him. And let's just make it. Like, there's no, no one was inspired to make that movie. It just exists now because they had a mandate. And that's why I can't stand what Disney's doing now. I think it looks good We need a dark and gritty reboot of Barney

Of Barney? No, please no That's fair no, he'll be an actual dinosaur We'll transform, we'll put it into the Jurassic world Oh yeah, universe? I remember a slightly dark, like a seriously shot Barney movie Yeah, didn't they do like a like a Barney movie that had like shadows and or is that just my childhood mind? I think you just just infiltrated Ralph's nightmares. Yeah, I think you just watched my video, maybe. I mean, that video is not, the childhood trauma one is pretty fucking dark.

That's such a surreal video, man. I love that one. Oh, thank you. Adam gave me months to just come up with something. Because you were supposed to release that in like October or November, right? You know what? It's one of those things where I think it's going to be like a couple parts. And then it's like, oh shit, this is a four-part video.

Yeah, you got ahead of yourself. Yeah. But it's great. It gave me time to think of shit. Yeah. I know zero prolific YouTubers who have not had that happen to them, you know, where they're like, I'll release four videos in August, and then you're like, oh, no, it's 20, 25, and I've only released one, you know?

Yeah. Yeah, but Adam's the master doing that. I'm notorious. He still has Synecatee New York Part 5. Yeah, but at this point, I'm letting it happen, okay? Uh-huh, okay. Because it's a part of the themes of the film. I want to finish that review by the time I'm 70.

and reflect back on my life and be like everybody who started watching this, like, half of you are dead right now. That'd be pretty cool, actually. Or if I died right before finishing it, then it would be pretty cool. Yeah, release it when you die. Oh, yeah, I'll have it ready and a part of my will. Yeah, that'll be cool. And I'll play at my funeral.

Yeah, they'll play it at your funeral. Yeah. Well, you can schedule videos. So just schedule it like, 200 years into the future. Oh man. Oh, I should schedule a video 200 years into the future regardless just to fuck with people.

I actually don't know what. I'm just not planning on releasing anyway. If YouTube's around and 200 years in the future. Exactly. I was also going to ask you, Quinton. Are you watching any television shows at the moment? Are you enjoying anything on the TV tube box?

I'd like to say that I am. I'm really behind it a bunch of stuff. and I've been trying to, I guess I've been focusing on work maybe a little too much. Yeah, it happens. When I think of like, what TV shows am I watching? Not really any right now. Do you have any favorites? I'm behind on Dirk gently by a season, which there's only two seasons, so I have to watch the second season. I really liked the first season.

I'm a big fan of the book. Yeah, it was fun. I enjoyed it. And I can't say that I watch a lot of mainstream, like something that's on CBS or something, you know? Oh, none of us do. I haven't watched a CBS show. You don't watch Big Bang Theory? No, I don't.

Bazinga. Bazing! How do you get the joke when I say Bizzinga? I thought you were laughing because you got it for real. You've been lying to me this entire time. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, Basinga. I always get excited to watch weird things. Like, I've seen all of Mike Tyson mysteries.

Yeah, you know? It's pretty weird. But not breaking bad, you know? And it makes for weird conversation whenever people bring something like that up. Yeah. I'm going to recommend a really weird show to you then, Quinton. Have you ever seen Xavier Renegate Angel? I've never even heard of that.

Okay, well, that's my recommendation for you. Report back to me in a week. And I don't know. Twin Peaks season three, that's another great one. I did watch Twin Peaks. You see, that's the thing. I always think of these as something I do in a week. I forget that I've...

But I watched the new Twin Peaks, of course, as that was coming out, and I thought that was really brilliant. Yeah, it was pretty fun. fucking awesome to see stuff like that on TV. The black and white episode is amazing where like the nuke goes off. Yeah. This fucking frog that goes in this girl's mouth. It's crazy, this show.

So I'd recommend that, too. It's really different from anything else. It's David Lynch, who I think is one of my favorite directors. Mm-hmm. Me too. Same here. We've watched one of his films here, Wild at Heart. The Best.

Alex wanted me to remind him to ask me about my facial hair. Oh yeah, you said early, what, you were 16 and 2013? Yeah. So what, you're 55 now? How is your beard so epic? Genetics. It is genetics.

I started growing, I grew my first beard and I think seventh grade. I don't know how to translate that to you, Alex. How tall are you? I'm six foot four. Nice. Wow. That's dope. Oh, right. Okay.

I wish I was that tall. I'm like a little munchkin and I can't grow fish on. You wish you're tall until you're on a fucking airplane. Yeah, until you're on an airplane. You're knees or touching the fucking seat in front of you the entire time. So uncomfortable. Hey, there's perks to everything. On my vacation, I went to over like a famous roller coaster park.

And that was even worse than an airplane because it's like, you get on like a wooden roller coaster and it like, you get off feeling like you just, fought Mike Tyson or something. Mm-hmm. Like, I need to lay down. Yeah, because you gotta, like, hold on really tight so you don't fly out of the fucking... No, it's just, it's... It's like, because it's like you're in, like, a tight can,

and it's like, it's like someone's shaking you. Yeah. You're too tall for it. And you're just covered in bruises by the end. And you're just like, why would someone try and make a wooden roller coaster that goes that fast, you know? Yeah, I guess that's the perk of being short.

I just sit on that, insecurely, because I'm nice and short. Awesome. Well, there you go. Yeah, there you go. It sucks for you guys, man. You were also going to talk about some sort of story about something. You said you would say later?

Well, yeah, I went on vacation, and I was going to watch that before. I went on vacation. I was going to watch happiness before I went on vacation. Yeah. And so I put the DVD in my computer, and I was, like, procrastinating, figuring I'll watch it around like 5 p.m. or something. and then at 4 p.m. This horrible storm hit the place where I live. I think it was like a...

It was a tornado, but it felt like a hurricane. And I... We lost power while the DVD was in my computer. And apparently the power was gone the entire time I was on vacation. I had to like Uber to like a bus stop. And the entire time I was gone, like power was gone. Because it like yanked trees up and all that jazz and knocked down like all our...

power lines. Where do you live? Like, state. Give us your ducks. You don't want to get... Well, I mean, a state is pretty vague, but you could say, south. It's like, it's like center of the country. People always ask me... Yeah, where it's fucking flat, and there's tons of tornadoes.

Yeah, that's... Yeah, yeah. A trailer park. People always ask, people always ask me what coast I'm from, and I never know what to say. It feels one of the most egotistical question. Anyone's ever asked me, what coast do you from? Uh-huh, because only the coasts matter. Only the Coast are cool. Absolutely. That's how you separate people. East side versus West side.

But I did get to watch it yesterday and I got to ask Alex something. This is this is how we transition into this. So you chose this one Alex, right? Spoiler warning, by the way. Oh, yeah, spoiler warning for happiness. We're talking about happiness if you haven't seen it. Watch it because we're going to spoil shit out of it. Continue. Well, I'm curious like Alex, what is the backstory for you finding this movie? Like was this this this is this tightness? your youth somehow? Like, why did you choose this one? Yeah, yeah, it does actually. Tied into your youth somehow. Not in that way.

I was, I don't know how old I must have been, but I watched it with my parents when I was young. Nice. No. No. Oh. Yeah. Congratulations. That's the only time I'd have seen it as well.

Oh. Until now. So that must have been. It left an impression. 10 years ago. Holy shit. I always remembered it. Like there are lots of memorable scenes.

Oh yeah, it's very memorable movie. There's one word for it. I think I had a nightmare about it. And I think the nightmare was just that I had to watch it again. But in a good way. This is a compliment in the movie, right? Sure. I mean, that's clearly what he was going for.

Awesome. Alex, you want to tell us the plot? Yeah, let's give some context to what this film is. So happiness is a, a 1998 film by Todd Salons, I think you say his name, about a bunch of different characters whose lives intertwine and they're all in search for something and it just turns out being kind of miserable for all of them. And it's just probably one of the most disturbing films I've seen. As some of the most disturbing scenes at least I've seen. Yeah, it's pretty unsettling.

Yeah, it's very unsettling. There isn't so much a traditional plot as there are just characters interacting with each other. We've chosen a lot of films like that for this. It's just a bunch of really good character actors just doing really funny scenes. I don't remember it being as funny as it was because this is like exactly my type of humor. What age were you watching? Yeah, exactly dark sense of humor. Uh, I don't know.

My memory is so terrible. I can't remember. I couldn't really remember anything. Yeah, all I remember is that there was like a pedophile in it and Philip Seymour Hoffman jerking off onto the wall and slapping Yeah, whatever it was to stick it. That's pretty funny great scene Come in this movie Yeah, there is. Cumb jokes. It's a theme of the movie. I was gonna say it's so hard to like jump into

The the nitty-gritty details of like that kind of stuff without people like getting freaked out like why did wait? Why did you watch this? You know? So the way I took the movie to be was that it was like I think the first scene in the movie is rather brilliant, because what it is is it's not, like, it's not set up well, right? You just cut to, like, this woman staring a little bit past the camera. She's got, like, these deep sunken eyes. She's kind of timid. And then there's this, like, fat guy across from her. John Levitts.

And he's very emotionally driven. And you don't know why the two of them are like that in this scene, and you have to piece it together. So what you're doing, you're given, like, a first impression of these characters. and you're expected to get to get comfortable with them without exactly knowing what's happening. And I think that's sort of what the rest of the movie is. You'll meet like a therapist who's like, his good thing is that like he thinks his clients are boring.

And then you get to, you like, you're forced to hang out with him as he goes through his routine. And then you slowly, you very quickly figure out that he's a pedo. You know? Yeah. And you're forced to long. on his journey even if you don't want to come,

you know, you don't want to go. You don't want to come? Jesus Christ. Thanks for saying it, Alex. This is an incredibly uncomfortable movie. It's a very uncomfortable movie. It's very hard.

By design, of course. That first scene of the film probably my favorite, honestly. I really, really enjoyed the scene as it is and also as an opener to the movie. It sets the stage perfectly

It has that great line Where he says Is it someone else? And she just says, no, it's just you It's like Trying to make him feel better But it makes him feel worse No, I'm not gonna give this to you

I'm gonna give this to someone who actually loves me For who I am Yeah, brutal It was, it was fucking awesome Yeah This is a film is like that The acting is fucking terrific on this movie and the script as well is brilliant.

Love me some PSH. That's clearly the star of the movie is the writing and the acting and the directing is very laid back but it's all very purposeful you can tell it's purposefully laid back because it's trying to draw attention to the performances and everything

but like there's some really fantastic filmmaking and production design there's a lot of green in this movie like it's there's a lot of nuances like that that I felt great. it was like love on a leash how the house was green all the time. Oh, everything was green.

Yeah, a lot of parallels with love on a leash I noticed. Yeah. Oh. Is that a good thing? Yeah, it's a great thing. Because love on a leash is a great movie, too. I agree. Inspired by happiness.

Yeah, 10 out of 10. You know, um, Philip Seymour Hoffman's character was originally, they had in mind, um, Jack Black for it. Oh. Oh. That would have been interesting, but I think it would have been more distracting than I think it would have been still on the nose, yeah, too overtly comedic. Philip Seymour Hoffman does an amazing job performing this character as a real person, you know?

Yeah, yeah, even if you laugh at things that he's doing and even if it's undeniably comical, some of the things that happen with his scenes, he doesn't play it off for laughs. He really explores and dives into this character, and he does it in a way where it's like you believe that this is a person. And he's one of those acts. where like he's so fearless when it comes to I guess doing things that are unflattering you can tell he has no ego he's not like trying to look to look pretty in anything that he does but he's not doing it for laughs at the same time he's like literally transformed into this slob reclusive weird fucking guy and I think he's just amazing one of the one of my favorite actors ever honestly I mean

he's terrific in this. Who was the guy who played the pedophile? Because that's a very hard role. I've seen him in a bunch of... Dylan Baker. I mean, when you first see him, it's like he's shooting up a park. Well, that's her introduction to him,

which is fantastic. And then you see just like he lives this normal life. He seems like a normal guy for like most of it, even though there's this, this clearly there's something sexually going on with kids involving, you know, him. And it's like even toward, even to the very end,

you don't know if he did it or not if he's actually capable of sexually assaulting a kid which was great there was always this doubt you didn't feel that it was pretty heavily implied that he did it I think it was they don't show it though it was of course it was heavily implied

how would they show it I mean like of course of course but there's like it was incredibly important guy this normal family yeah of course it's implied but it's this normal family guy and there's always this doubt in your head like did he actually fucking do it.

I think he for sure you didn't know what level he went to like that end scene with him and his son is so compelling yeah but the son asked him and you're like is he going to confess it? Did he really do it? And of course he did I think that's the most disturbing

scene in the whole film to me when he's just describing it. There's a lot of really uncomfortable scenes with that man and especially with his son where it's just like I could never like I appreciate our in all of its forms I could never write or direct something like that even if it's for some sort of purpose

I could never have an adult have a conversation with a little boy about like jerking off and yeah weird creepy shit because you're setting that up as the director too it's like that's got be uncomfortable to film when they were recording the kids takes they weren't saying the same dialogue so like everything the father says in his takes yeah Because what the guy was saying was so fucking horrible. Like, they can't have this kid listen to that. So they fed these, this kid, like, fake lines of dialogue, and he reacted. Okay.

Like, so, like, he wasn't telling the kid, like, oh, I want to fuck you. Oh, he still does in the same take, but nothing really that bad. Like, especially toward the end, he says some really horrible stuff that they were not going to let that kid here. The kid literally say, would you want to fuck me? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I don't know what they told the kid, but this is what I read in an article. And he's like, crying.

Yeah. Like, how do you? Yeah. There's almost no point. I don't know. I think there. That was the first character we brought up because it's the most ostentatiously shocking aspect of the film. Yeah.

Probably what it's most, what's the most infamous for. But there are a lot of other really interesting characters. I feel like we could dive into. I felt like the best character was the. dad. I just thought he was really funny. Jackie Treehorn, yeah. His whole thing was that he was like a closet asexual, I guess. Yeah. And so they would be like, are you leaving me for another woman?

Who are you going to find a new person, dad? And he just goes, there's nobody. And that's like, I just thought it was funny. Good impression. Yeah. There's, uh, good impression. And he was like, he was like finished with life. And then he goes to the doctor and they're like, you're just, you're just, you're just going to live to be a hundred. He just stay away from his soul and then just pours so onto his mirror because he just sat on the fucking funny more

It's awesome I thought there was a really interesting juxtaposition Between all the sisters They have like different By the end of the film at least They all have different viewpoints Of that sort of thing They all go through their own arcs

So like Joy's thing is that throughout the film She's like the innocent one And then the one The mom Her thing is that she's like the mature, responsible one with like a family and a house, you know. And then the writer sister, I guess her gimmick is that she romanticizes horrible things, you know?

She feels as though she hasn't experienced life, you know. She's had a too perfect of a life and she feels like a phony for writing about things that aren't true and selling her personality on like rape stories. And I feel like she definitely has like a morbid fascination with. things that the other sisters don't. Like, there's this, there's that moment at the end. I might have just imagined this, but there's this moment. Well, like, she's describing, you know, what happened to the doorman to the other sisters.

And she's like, I just wish I'd known her to understand her. And there's, like, this pause where you suddenly remember that the other sister had, like, a husband who was a pedophile. And so, like, the writer's sister is romanticizing this horrible thing. meanwhile while she's sitting next to someone who lived through something just as bad like like you know you know what I'm saying right yeah there's a totally different perspective that the two of them have on horrible things happening yeah to the people around them which is so interesting the whole movie is just brilliant like writing like that did you guys notice the the music being I guess you did but like it's very corny it sounds almost like elevator music yeah and that's the point it's Is that it's like this Bop-a-da-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-fucking music as all these horrible things are happening.

The title card? There, the title card, happiness. And it's like this, it looks like a 1920s style, like, fucking card that they show when they're supposed to be dialogue or something. It's so funny. I would say the best instance of that for me was when, uh, when the wife and Petto Man were, like, greeting each other at the dinner table, and it almost felt like a cheesy family sitcom, you know?

Meanwhile, there's some, very serious, very fucked up shit going on behind the scenes. But it's almost like this fabricated, picture perfect life of the American dream. Like, I have everything I want. And like we're happy with each other. Yada yada yada. Like nothing could go wrong. Meanwhile, my sister, she's always miserable.

But in the end, everybody's miserable no matter what you do, no matter what you're attaining. And happiness is just something that you're reaching for that you could never possibly attain. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's such a good point. I feel like there's definitely there's this idea throughout the film, that there's this separation between, like, people's regular lives and I guess, you know, the,

I don't know how to say this in a sane way. Like the... The facade you put on. Yeah, the facade you put on, or even, like, there's the character of Philip Seymour Hoffman. His thing is that, like, he's fascinated with, like, the fantasy. of sex and even like assault.

But when he's given the chance to go through with it, like it's the most horrifying thing to him. Well, yeah. And then there's the father character who's like asexual. And then it's implied that the woman that Philip Seymour Hoffman meets, it's implied that she's also sort of asexual. And it feels like almost like the happiest moment in the film is just where Philip, Seymour Hoffman and this woman he's met,

they just like lay down in bed. and like she has a blanket over her and he's facing away. And that follows the sequence where he tries to go through with this sexual fantasy and it just doesn't work out. I don't know how to put this. I guess it's just like the idea of each character, like there's this separation between their regular lives and like the things that happen in their sexual lives. And a lot of the wires in terms of their happiness seems to come from the horrible things that happen on either side. Yeah, like, yeah, I know totally what you mean. It's totally making fun of this romanticized version of relationships and sex that we have,

where it all goes perfectly without a hitch. But the truth is, everyone has their own fucked up past having to do with sex and romance. And when you take, like, all these flawed fuck of people and put them together, it's like, yeah, they kind of fall in love, like Philip Seymour Hoffman's character and that other woman. But, like, she got raped in the past, so she doesn't want to have sex. Philip Seymour Hoffman is just a weirdo. So at the end, they get together, but it's in their own weird way. So it is kind of sweet.

Yeah. I feel like there's a lot of similarities between this film and Synecdickey, New York, in terms of, like, themes. No, yeah, I feel that way, especially from a few scenes, like, they really drive home this idea of, like indifference to others suffering in a sense that everybody's so absorbed in their own life and doesn't give a shit about anyone else or anything happening around them like when she's at work and she's talking about Andy's death and they're just like they can't they don't

even pay attention to how distraught she is emotionally they're just like oh do we know Andy see the guy over yeah like they they don't give any kind of a shit about what it means to her, they're not trying to console her in any sort of way, everybody's just everybody's just an asshole concerned with their own lives. And just very indifferent to everybody else. How does he fit into my life? Yeah, exactly.

It was so weird. There's a lot of great lines like that. Like, um, where someone just like walks up to someone and says like the meanest thing possible and then disguises it as like a compliment. Like, you know, the scene with two of the sisters at the beginning. I think it's the first scene where you see more than one of the sister at a time.

And one of them's like, you know, everyone always thought you'd be sad and alone and pathetic, accomplishing nothing with no job and no life. And, you know, I'm starting to think eventually that might not be true. It's breaking down that idea of the grass always being greener on the other side. Like every person dreams about the thing that they think they want. And sometimes if you actually get that thing that you've, fantasized about or whatever it doesn't quite live up to your expectations or can get you into a fuck ton of trouble like it does for the paedophile guy um yeah exactly there's this like there's this

grand irony to the the misery of it all because the film is is totally miserable and it plays it serious within the context of itself like it's this it doesn't have jokes per se it's just the characters are funny and the misery ironically kind of makes you happy in comparison because you're glad that you're none of these fucking pathetic sad, disgusting people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm really upset that this film is not an HD. It's one of those movies. Yeah, I was going to apologize for that. I didn't realize it was so hard to find. I saw people complaining on Reddit that like, how do I find this goddamn film? And even I had trouble. Like, I went into a bunch of different, like, DVD, Blu-ray stores and

was like, do you have this film happiness? No, like, no. No. No. Well, you told me weeks ahead of time and that was the only reason I was able to get like a copy of the DVD. Yeah. And it got here and I opened it and I knew it was old because it's it's one of those like double-sided DVDs, you know, that they did for a while but no one liked it. So they stopped doing it after like a year. Yeah. And luckily it played, but it was like, so I was watching it 4 by 3, I was watching it 16 by 9 in 4 by 3 in 16. Oh no. Like this fucking like little box that the movie's in Right

I mean God forbid if they They could have done the title screen And 4 by 3 and 16 by 9 And 4 by 3 and 4 by 3 and 16 by 9 Yeah I mean from what I could tell It was really well shot And the production design was all great

I just wish it was in HD I'm shocked to that I mean this movie is great I would consider it like a classic I mean the way people have talked about it Is it just too controversial or something I guess so. It's not popular enough.

Like, it doesn't, it doesn't portray pedophilia as a good thing. It just presents a pedophile character. Yeah, it's fucking weird, like, sexual... I mean, Philip Seymour-Ooffins' characters fucked up. Like, the way he talks to women is horrible. It was from the wrong year and not popular enough. It doesn't promote, it doesn't promote these things.

It just shows them, honestly, which is interesting. I read the Wikipedia article about, about the director, I think. And it said that, like, he made all these movies with really dark heinous themes and then he made a movie that won a bunch of awards and he was like is it just because this is the only one that's not about rape or pedophilia

you know maybe yeah like the Oscars would stay away from this shit yeah you know yeah did this get nominated for anything it got something it might have got oh it's in okay yeah

it got nominated nominated for one Golden Globe yeah best screenplay and that's it and that's it holy shit Holy shit. Are they fucking kidding me? Man, what a bunch of hacks. My question was how did this how did this get made? Like somehow they managed to get

$3 million together, get this incredible talent and assemble this film. Like how many actors are screaming out to play these types of characters? I think a lot. Because actors want to play interesting, challenging roles and they want to be

they want to show their range. And this is a great fucking chance to do it. I mean, he's not playing a dick-hap. But these production companies. He's probably made movies in the past, too, before that that were great. I bet he made, like, some really obscure indie-fix before this. And then all these actors were like, I want to be in whatever he does next, you know? Yeah.

Fear, anxiety, and depression he made, and then welcome to the dollhouse. Those are two features he made beforehand. And those both got very well reviewed. So people are willing to write or act his weird fucking dialogue. Did you guys know this film as a sequel? What? It's a sequel called Life During War Time. Same director, same writer.

But every single character is recast and played by a different set of really good actors. I haven't seen it. It's just reading about it. Okay. I'll check it out, I guess. Oh, I'm totally watching this. Yeah, that's interesting. Oh, this is awesome.

Okay. Added to the watch list. Weird. Did you guys have any problems with this movie? I didn't have any. I thought it was a little long. Yeah. Maybe they could have cut out some characters.

I would agree that it was a little long. It just felt a little long. In that sense, I mean, I feel like it thought it was doing more than it actually was. Like, it could have been shorter and driven home the same point, you know? Well, I wanted to show every member of that family, and I get that. Yeah. It's just. I guess it would

Like I don't know what the movie would be Without the father subplot Or like the lighter subplots like that Because you got the really heavy shit Like the pedophilia and the Philip Seymour Hoffman's character But then the stuff going on with the dad's a little more lighthearted I wonder if that stuff was absent

The movie would be worse off Because it would just be too heavy That's something I don't know I felt like a lot of the scenes Could have been you know A lot of the stories that happened in the film could have been expressed in less scenes. Like Joy's character, you know, she goes through her own arc, but I feel like it took a while to get there.

Same with even arguably the pedophile character, you know? Like, it did kind of mosey along in terms of doing it. It was all very disturbing, but I felt like I was getting a lot of each character when, if you're going to do an ensemble movie, maybe you should just cut it down just a little. Yeah, maybe I definitely thought it was good that there was like There were little bits of the story that had like similar themes or similar precedents That were less extreme Like just this idea that Joy gets into this horrible situation

Because she sleeps with some guy Like the first night she meets him Yeah I feel like that's tonally like the same as like I feel like every character gets into some shit because of some element of their sexuality Yeah And I think what happens to her is much more approachable than what happened to everyone else.

So I feel like stuff like that's really important, you know? Mm-hmm. They're just impulsive, or in that case, Joy's just lonely. Yeah. She acts out, and it gets them in even more trouble. Like, they try to seek happiness. And for some of them, it lasts for a brief moment. But then they're even, they're an even more shit.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, even the pedophile character, he doesn't regret it. He said, I don't regret it. It felt great, which is funny horrifying. But yeah. Can we talk about the ending? The dog licked up the boys

Jizz and gave the mom a kiss. Like, what the fuck was that? Come on. I mean, it was so, it was so fucked up that it was funny. It's just like the last middle finger. Yeah, it's the last middle finger.

Exactly. I feel like I'm totally changing my brand here by continuing to mention this aspect. But I guess throughout the film, like the kid is constantly worrying about the fact that he is not sexually mature or something. You know what I mean? Yeah.

And even his... Yeah, his attachment to his father at the end is even like a repercussion of the fact that he wants to be a part of that adult mess, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And I guess they constantly set up the fact that he has not had a completion, if you will.

So I, there's definitely... I get why they chose to end of the movie with him pulling that off. It was a little, I mean, the dog licking it up, though. I mean, come on. I didn't, I didn't understand that. I thought that was fucking funny. Yeah, me too. That's why I thought it was there because it's funny.

It's like, why not? That's like the cherry on top of the fucking night. It was just like, yeah, you thought this could possibly have a happy ending? No, the fucking dog's licking her face. No, go. Dude, it is a happy ending. The kid finally came. I'm happy for him.

The last pause in the film, the pause is in this movie. I respect nothing more than a director who knows how to do good pauses, you know? Yeah. David Lynch is incredible at pauses and saying whatever he wants to say with no dialogue. I feel like the pauses in this film, including the final one before the credits start rolling, like there's so many different emotions that are portrayed in those moments. A lot of them are really hilarious, you know? Yeah.

And you don't know how to feel. You don't know if you're supposed to laugh at it or just be uncomfortable. Exactly. great. And they give you time to laugh at the funnier things, but they just hold it for a little longer than it takes to laugh. So you're done laughing, and it's still holding on this fucking awkward situation, and you're like, ugh. It's so awesome. I love the scene where Philip Seymour Hoffman sits down on the couch with the sister. It was the most awkward thing. I love that so much. He's like slowly inching.

Oh, yeah. It's like, no, this is awkward. That's such a modern comedy, too, exactly the way. It's almost like YouTube-esque, how the the brilliant way they did that scene where it's like the the romantic or like the exciting you know music is swelling and building up as he reaches his handover she just goes this isn't working it just cuts immediately yeah it was great it was so brilliant um it's it's just the dialogue it's so naturally funny and witty in that kind of way where it's like yeah i've accidentally said stupid stuff like that before and it sounded like a douchebag stuff like, I'm not a scab or I'm living in a state of irony.

My favorite line in the whole film is probably, come can be used as a verb as well. I love that. I thought the internal dialogue was really funny because they all sound like idiots, but it's also like, that's how I feel like we all think. Yeah. And, oh, God, I don't want to say the funniest quote I thought,

but it was the one about her worrying that she's not legitimate you know she's like I'm not real she says something like I don't know what it's like to be raped oh yeah yeah she wishes that she was raped as a child so then she could be a genuine artist but that's so relatable

it's messed up but it's like that's one of the great things every character a tiny part of one of this ensemble of characters will resonate with you in some way you'll relate on some level yeah of course that's why I I'm both, I feel like they should cut it down, and I don't want them to cut it down,

because there are characters that I relate to, but there's easily other characters that I could relate to when I was older. Or, like, for other people. If I was an older woman, I would relate to, you know, the wife character or the sister. Yeah. Like, I think probably the weakest one to me was the kind of large woman that, um, yeah, had the story about killing the Mexican guy. Oh, I loved her. I thought she was fantastic.

That neck snap was bad. Oh, right, yeah. No, I thought that whole element of it, the murder element was just a bit unnecessary and unneeded. And it added a, just a level of goofiness that the other things didn't have in such a on the nose way. Like, everything else about it was relatively realistic. But that was the part where it's like, why would that, why would that no one investigate that? I don't feel that way. I don't think anything about this movie's realistic.

I kind of agree with Alex. pretty over the top and silly. You think it's more, I don't think anything about it was realistic. I don't think any of the situations they got it. It was all pretty exaggerated. I mean, the characters are interesting and they feel fleshed out, but I wouldn't call them realistic people. Yeah, that's the thing.

Isn't it interesting, but like the characters, there's, like, we think of them as fleshed out and realistic, and you're like, that's an actual person who's walking around and all that, but they're also, in a lot of ways, very, like, cartoony. Like, the fat woman's, like, very flesh out, right? And then, like, there's also these moments where she's, that, where like the joke of the scene is that she's fat and she eats ice cream. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't find that too cartoony though.

I didn't think it was bad. Because I mean, like, that's a real person. There's tons of people that do that. Yeah, I thought most of it was pretty, like, realistic. I mean, the murder element was a little weird, though, I agree. But it's what people are like when they don't have a camera on them. Yeah, it's not like a typical Hollywood depiction of an American family. It's the shit no one wants to talk about and the shit no one wants to see and that that's what makes it realistic to me

I read like the first sentence of Ebert's review of this and he said like it's snapshots of moments behind closed doors Yeah, that's exactly it and that's why I would say it is it is relatively realistic in terms of A lot of the portrayal. I never questioned for a minute. Yeah, these are just actors reading off Quippy Dialogue in a scene It would feel that way I don't know that way I I'm not saying it's unrealistic in a bad way. I'm saying it's definitely exaggerated to butt heads with that.

It's making fun of that sitcomish version of family or romance that we see. So everyone acts like in that comedic way, even when they're saying horrible shit like, oh, I would fuck you, son. Like, it's that same delivery. I agree. So, like, that's not realistic to me, but that's, it's effective and interesting. I was trying to think of depressing ideas and themes. that weren't in the film

and the only one I could think of is like drug abuse yeah I guess so what else is there even left to explore in terms of misery like you kind of hit their nail on the head with that one I mean it is said in New Jersey

that's right what does she say she says like people don't get why I live in New Jersey they're like why would you even live there you're successful and you're rich why would you live there well they don't understand I'm living in a state of irony

choice. Is there anything else we have to say about this? I think we pretty much wrapped it up. Definitely not for everybody. Holy shit. Oh yeah, definitely not for everybody. But I mean, I think this is for a lot of people.

I'd say give it a shot. Top 10 movies I would not show my mom. I probably would not have picked this as something to watch had I looked it up and read even like the first sentence of the plot, you know? But I'm glad I did watch it. It was a really interesting delivery. It was on my watch list. I was going to watch it at some point.

So thank you, Alex, for helping make me take the plunge into this very fucked up film. Yeah, thank you, Alex. If any of you out there, if you haven't watched the film, but you're still listening to this part and you're like not sold. Because it sounds so horrible. It's not exploitation in the way you might imagine. It's not a human centip to. It's more artful than that. It's a well-done film.

And it's different. So I'd recommend watching it, even if you don't like it, at least that's a reaction. That's what like, oh, it's all about. Any positive or negative emotional reaction is a good thing. It certainly isn't a boring film. And it isn't forgettable. Yeah.

And that's an achievement. That's a good point. What would you give it out of 10, everybody? I'd just give it. I'd probably give it five out of five. Yeah. I think with what the director, clearly was trying to achieve.

He nailed it. And everything about it is artful, as I was saying. Acting's great. Dialogue is just next level good. So many quotable lines. The funniest shit ever. It reminded me of what makes things like the peep show, sorry, peep show and the office so funny

that really appeals to that dry, British sense of humor. It's just an all-round great film. Yeah, very uncomfortable movie, but clearly trying to be. And it's hilarious, and it's so well done. I gotta give it a five, too. I would also go with five.

I thought the director had a vision. He wanted to show these characters and then play with the audience's heads about it. Well, also having a bit of an interesting and funny time will also really shocking you. And, yeah, he accomplished all of those things. And I think that's really commendable. I don't know who would end up on, like, the best movies I've ever seen. I thought it was worth watching. Yeah.

I would give it a seven. The odd man out again. I only a seven. Yeah. My only is seven. Why not a ten? Why isn't it perfect? Well, you know, I...

What do you hate everything? I really enjoyed it. No, you hate it because you didn't give it a ten. Well, like you said, I mean, like the star of the film is the writing and performances. I did... I mean, you were saying that it's, like, shot great. Like, yeah, it was serviceable. I didn't really see anything like 10 out of 10 in that department or anything.

And like I said, I did feel like... Yeah, the simplicity was key, I thought. Yeah, it's totally key. That's fine. I mean, yeah. I just felt like, you know, like I said, it did kind of meander. Things could have been cut down. It did feel like it thought it was a bit more, I guess,

important than it was. I guess that's just me. And you know what? I'm fully willing to admit this, that this might be influencing my rating or my experience of the film. But I really, really don't like that uncomfortable petto shit. I really don't enjoy it. And in the same sense, like, yeah, I've argued, like, yeah, if you don't like what's happening in Antichrist, you know, or any kind of gore kind of movie, like getting a reaction, I do kind of enjoy those at the same time. Like, I,

I get a kick out of like fun squeamish gore or disturbing concepts, but like, pet-oh shit is just one of those weird things that like I just can't, I can't deal with it very well in movies. Depending on how it's how it's presented. It was a tad too disturbing for my taste. Wow. Wow. Yeah. This whole discussion, this whole discussion, I've been feeling bad about the fact that I had to be the one to drop the, that bomb shell.

I was like, did I do that wrong? No. I feel like I didn't land right. I, yeah, I kind of walked out to think feeling like, I don't exactly know why that was in the movie, but I guess, you know, it fit. Yeah. It fit the discussion of like, I guess it fit the discussion of like the separation between like your public life and, you know. But I could totally see like the idea that like, you know, you could have replaced that with anything else. It's not just that it was in the movie.

Like the pedophilic aspect was absolutely necessary. but it was kind of just how it was presented, I guess. Like, we didn't really need the dog looking up the cum thing at the end. That was a little weird. Also, I was kind of hoping for some sort of resolution for this pedophile rapist character. I was hoping to see him, like, go to jail or something. I was hoping to see something other than a threatening phone call. So I could feel like the whole experience of watching him abuse and manipulate people around him and children would be,

worth it to see some sort of like vengeance in it but it's really good point you know I felt I felt a little blue-hauled on on that vengeance sort of thing he just got a threatening phone call and then the movie ended you know yeah yeah I don't think that's what the movie was about I know I don't think they needed a scene of like him going to jail it's it's pretty clear his life is over after that I mean I think once you see I think understanding the reaction that his family has to it and I feel like that final scene with his son

I feel like those really illustrate what the film is going for a lot more just like that that whole the dinner scene where they're not saying anything and they're trying to stick to the dynamic of their family relationship but also like it's sitting it's setting in for all of them they're like their dad's pedophile

like I said like a scene in silence I don't know what I guess it was just fascinating to me how they did that yeah and I just want to confirm for audience members that I don't think that that really influenced my rating of it's not like I'd rated a 10 if it didn't have like pet oh shit in it But like yeah it it is I guess you know I have my personal preferences over

I guess how the story flowed and what was necessary what wasn't what could have been cut out and it didn't really click to me on a level that I would give it a 10 out a 10 I still appreciated every aspect of the writing and the acting especially and I think that it's a great movie all over Overall although very uncomfortable and not one that I want to watch again at any point really I got it I got the movie so I would never recommend it to anyone honestly I would never be like hey dude you got a free weekend and that's why there's no Blu-ray yeah because it's impossible to recommend it to a certain type of person yeah it's actually an interesting thing I I don't know if who would I would recommend this too like people would think there's something wrong with me yeah recommended this to them.

I would have to like, throw it on at night. Alex recommended it to the three of us, I guess. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Which is awesome. Because otherwise we never would have had a chance to see it.

Like, who the fuck would recommend? What kind of weird British weirdo would recommend a movie like this? Yeah. All right. So I guess we're heading on to questions now. Oh, good. Ask questions on the Reddit. Reddit.

Reddit. Hell yeah. com slash R slash Sardonicass. Question thread. there. Get them. Get them. You guys got questions? Adam said he had questions. I want to see. No, I was asking if you have questions. I thought you said you had questions too at the beginning. No, well, I said I had questions for Quentin and I snuck them in over the course of this podcast. I was asking question. Quentin, a bunch of questions. Yeah, those were good questions, fan. I liked those.

Good job, Adam. I got them for my special place. Thank you. Alex, you got some. I'm bowing right now. I know you can't tell, but I'm bowing. All right, go ahead, Alex. So our first one here is from Willie Butts, who says, which anticipated film has disappointed you the most? I'll start so you guys have a bit of time.

Good, good. As of late, it was probably an alien covenant. I don't know why I had hope, considering like Prometheus and other stuff, Fredley Scott has done, but I just thought, you know what? This is the same director as the original. The alien franchise has been a complete mess up to this point. Maybe this is one where we can kind of turn it around, go back to basics.

Nope. Nope. It's one of my least favorite alien films. That film is abysmal. It's awful. It's really bad. Insult. I was so angry watching that film.

And not even consistent with Prometheus. Like, it pretends to answer all the questions of Prometheus. I would have been fine with it if it was like a, a proper continuation of Prometheus But it wasn't It also abandoned that one Prometheus again just shit I was kind of hoping that it would

At least look nice You know? Because Prometheus was well shot It had some great cinematography of points Yeah Prometheus had like a really interesting world. But then that was all abandoned. It was so strange. Alien Covenant has possibly the

worst use of like CGI in what's supposed to be a horror movie A film of that caliber Should have like The way it was shot it was shot like an action movie instead of a horror movie. So it was showing way too much of the like creature.

I thought there was some decent kind of mood and atmosphere being built up. Then as soon as they show this stupid creature that looked dreadful, was so goofy. It was just jumping around like a fucking cartoon, Sunday morning cartoon character.

Did you like the part where the actor who played Dr. Manhattan, an alien came out of him? And it was like a CG alien and it did like the Jesus Christ cross thing. Why do they keep doing this? They keep, Yeah, let's take this thing that, yeah, oh, God, so annoying, Ridley Scott, just completely ignoring or misunderstanding everything that made the original alien work.

The mystery is what makes it work. Not having the answers is what makes things work. So Hollywood has this obsession with going back into the past of stories that have already been told. And the past is never as interesting. What good prequels are there? Like, God, I hate that film. Yeah. Mine would have to be

I guess recently I saw Hot Summer Nights Which was this indie film I was looking forward to about drug dealers And I saw it on VOD recently And very disappointing Have you guys heard of this movie prior to me? No no

No at all Timothy Shaleney Is in it? How the fuck do you say his name? Timothy A Shaleman The guy from Call Me By Your Name Yeah Timothy Jammany Whatever

And it was like It was well shot You could tell everyone really cared. The acting was good, but it really just, the story itself, was not worth telling, and it was really kind of dull. And I didn't like it, which is a shame because I was actually really looking forward to it. But that's the best answer I've got. A shame none of you guys have heard of it. I guess you never will, because it's not that good.

And it's not worth seeing. I searched it before, but, yeah. The trailer looked good. Oh, well. That's why I don't look at trailers because they're always wrong. I have an answer. Mine's an adaptation, which I feel like is cheating, because it means you go on with a very specific expectation of the original.

Because you guys had much better answers in terms of just a standalone expectation. But it's a weird one. Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter. Oh, okay. I read the book, and as a history buff, what I love about the book is that it's actually a very accurate discussion and representation of Abraham Lincoln, you know? It deals with stuff like all the horrible tragedies.

Like when Abraham Lincoln was young, he like had so many tragedies. Like his mom mysteriously died. He had like a fiancee. He was head over heels in love with. And she suddenly died like in the exact same way. And like Abraham Lincoln was one of the only presidents where no one has any records of him going to church. He would say that he believed in God publicly. But he never like, you know, he was never aligned any church or anything.

And the book is a really interesting discussion of that and an exploration of his life and as him, him like fighting slavery and that sort of thing. And it just happens to be that for every gap where we don't know the explanation, it just like writes in vampires, you know? Well, obviously. His mom died because of vampires. His fiance died because of vampires. He hates slavery of vampires, you know? So I wanted to see like a serious historical, you know, like Steven Spielberg-esque historical movie that happened to have vampires in it, you know?

and Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter the movie is like this boring wannabe superhero flick that doesn't do anything interesting especially under the context of how much I liked the book it's just very forgettable like there's nothing memorable about that movie yeah I totally agree with you yeah and it's just brown and just boring and it can't be fun if it'd been can't be fun I could have seen it working but it totally isn't it's really I think that came out the same year as Lincoln you know know? When I saw Lincoln, all I could think was like, oh, God, you know, just imagine Lincoln exactly the same except there are vampires in it. That's what I wanted. Yeah, that's mine, though. Well, I don't often get disappointed for things that I'm excited for, that I'm hyped for. There are

some examples, I guess, of directors that I'm looking forward to or excited about that it just started out. And then it's like, oh, I guess their first movie was a flu. or whatever. The most recent example of something that I can think of where I was actually disappointed, I had no good reason to be excited at all. It was a film that I saw while I was in Montreal last week at Fantasia Fest called The Man Who Killed Hitler and Then the Bigfoot.

Oh, that movie. Okay. And so this was the world premiere, and it's starring Sam Elliott. And based on the title alone, even made debatably the poster, you would expect that the only way that movie could ever be made or the only way that it could work is if it's kind of like a self-parody, like, I don't know, hobo with a shotgun or, you know, some sort of like, ha-ha, killing Nazis, like almost Kung Fury or something. Something that's like over the top or at least self-aware so that if, you know, yeah, corny intentionally. And unfortunately, the movie played itself very, very seriously and was not good at all. It could have worked as a serious movie, I guess, but it was just, it was so incompetent at everything that it tried. The only decent part of the movie was Sam Elliott's performance and he did a fine job.

But the rest of it, it spends so much fucking time on shit that doesn't matter. we get like flashbacks where it's like okay we we start the movie with him almost killing hitler and then it goes to him like getting a haircut later and he's just like i'm sad that i because of my past experiences and it dwells on dwells on this shit for like 45 minutes keeps going back to flashbacks but instead every time the flashback happens it's like it's it starts out before the first flashback started so it's like okay well what new information am i getting just him walking around like oh no the the jews are going to Auschwitz in this train, but it's like, I already knew he was there. I already saw him about to kill Hitler. And then when Bigfoot happened, it was just like, it was so unsatisfying.

It was so just, what a fucking mess. I was mostly disappointed because I was visiting some friends and I brought them to the movie as well because I was like, well, I'm going to see this movie anyway. You want to come? It would have been really cool

if we saw something that was like slightly entertaining, but it was not. So. That's a shame. I expected more from a movie with such a great title. You would expect it to just not take itself seriously. Yeah. I think if you see a movie called, what was it? The Man Who Killed Hitler and Then the Bigfoot.

I mean, I think that's a shame. That's the title that's too good because the movie's never going to be as good as the title makes you think it's going to be. Yeah. Yeah. What a shame. Oh, well. That was garbage. I got another question here. This is from Koffrick.

Oh, no. I'm not going to read that one. Sorry, my dad. Okay, this one's from, I read the wrong one. This one's from Rage High, 42. What are your favorite guilty pleasure movie genres? Oh, no, movie genres. Let's just say movies.

Yeah, let's say movies. Yeah, let's say movies. Oh, man, I had prepared an answer for genres. Oh, yeah? What's a genre? Say a genre, and then we can do movies after. Okay, so I wanted to do, um, anime dubs from the 80s, where, like, they try and change the plot.

Oh, I've seen those. Can you name a few? Because I know this one. It's like the guy who voices Nathan Drake does it. Oh, well, I think one of the more infamous ones in the community is, is a movie that barely exists. Like, they canceled it, but it's called Robotech the movie, which is like they were adapting a movie called Megasone 23 Part 1,

and they were just going to animate a new ending. And like, most of the way through production and, like, rewriting the script to make it fit with a different show. Like, the people at Canon films called them up and said, hey, this movie sucks. There's too many girls in it, and there's not enough fight scenes. So you need to add in more robots, right? Okay.

And he goes, what the hell am I going to do? What do you mean to add in more? It's not my movie. I didn't make this. So he has to take a different show. Oh, that's awesome. And take scenes from a different, from like a 16 millimeter animation TV show

and cut it into a 33 millimeter anime film and try and make it coherent and it's it's I think it's fascinating and people always make fun of it but it was cancelled and it just had a very limited

VHS release in Europe so I feel like making fun of it is like making fun of a kid on crutches because it can't walk straight I just think it's like it's a really really weird fascinating film what's the name of this

I want to add this to me it's called Robotech the movie and you're probably going to have to find like a fan edit putting it back together on YouTube or something. Okay, I'll try to find that. I was thinking of the more, because there's, they do that, but they do it intentionally. Like they rework all the dialogue to make it funny and make the show into a joke. Those are the ones I've seen. Oh, okay. I've never seen like that shit. There was one on adult swim that was like that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to remember the name of it, but I guess I can right now. Someone will mention it on Reddit and I'll approve it. Be like, yep, that's it. Anyway, I'll quickly add,

I want to do a video about RobotTech the movie just discussing the history. You totally should. But it's so complex because it totally changed like an entire franchise that I'm worried that people are just going to get lost in me explaining it. But yeah, I'll consider it. Awesome. I guess I do actually have a genre. And that would be trauma-esque shitty low-budget horror films that don't take themselves seriously, but at the same time don't even try. So there's just a bunch of hot garbage.

That comes out of people that you can tell have no real vision and they're just doing it because they think it's fun and I feel like there's a lot of It's a little difficult to sift through the the bullshit, but you get some really funny ones in there, you know There's there's a movie called I Spit Chew on your grave and it's like an hour An hour long and it's I think you can find it on YouTube Directed by this guy named Well, it's 2008

and it looks like it was just filmed with some friends, but you can buy it on Amazon, I guess. And there's a lot of great funny moments and lines in that movie, but it looks like shit. Like there are points where it's like you can barely tell what's happening because the lighting is so bad. Like they're filming it on a handy cam, but there's some funny moments in it.

There's also like fetish dolls die laughing, which is a pretty funny one where the villain tickles them to death. That was a pretty good one. Yeah, shit like that. That's kind of a guilty pleasure genre. If I were to pick a movie, I would probably say something like Crank,

but I almost don't want to, because I actually, I still like Crank as a movie. I think it succeeds at what it tries to do. Yeah, Crank is like a genuinely great movie. Yeah, something like these, it's like, it's difficult to convince other people to watch them unless you've just got a room

full of drunk people and you put it on you know? Yeah. And then people enjoy it, but just, you know, because it's bad. You have to have the right crowd, you know? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I don't know if it counts as a genre,

that Dwayne Johnson movies count as a genre. Yeah, dude. That's what I was going to say. I was going to say Nicholas Cage movies. So yeah, totally go with a person. Those are genres. Yeah. I'll agree with that.

Have you ever seen the earliest film, Duane Jit, one of the earliest films he did? He plays like a tooth fairy. Oh, God. Yeah. That's a classic. That wasn't like pre-year-old. mummy though, was it? Like the Scorpion

King? I think it was post-m... But it was like one of his first things he did after WWE. The Tooth Very. That was like his weird kids movie phase where he was just doing a bunch of kids movies. Like a... I'm family-friendly. And that... I think one of you guys said on an earlier podcast,

something brilliant, which is that all Dwayne the Rock Johnson movies look like... Like the trailers for those look like fake. Yeah. Like if someone was going to make a movie about a movie about Dwayne the Rock Johnson playing a hack actor, Every Dwayne the Rock Johnson movie trailer looks like a fake trailer they would make for that movie. They do. They do.

Looks like the beginning trailers in Trap of Thunder. I'd go as far to say is that Dwayne Johnson has never been in a good movie. Yeah. Aside from maybe Moana. Yeah. That's like the... I wouldn't even consider Moana a good movie, but okay. Really?

That's the same one. I could see someone making a case for. Mm-hmm. And he never plays a character. He just plays Dwayne Johnson. You know, like, I'm sick of with the Rock there, but he's bringing me back. Sellable, man. He's really sensible.

I like him. He's the same character in every movie. I like his figure. To the point where the schick he has where like every character in the movie is like, wow, rock, God, your arms are huge. Do that thing in your pecks, buddy. And just in every film he does it. And it's like, it must be great being the rock.

You just turn up to set. And they're like, oh, man, you're so cool. Here, take $50 million. Give them a nuzzle. And he's supposed to be, he's always playing, like an every man like oh in the rampage is just a zoologist or skyscryper he's like like he's some tech consultant meanwhile he's this fucking huge sumoan it's like it doesn't make any sense i don't understand how he's supposed to be a every man a fucking awesome yeah like you got to cast him

as a ranger he's huge or like yeah a bodybuilder you can't just cast him as a normal guy what is he in san jane a dres like a fucking helicopter pilot this small guy that's what he does for living he flies helicopters give me a break how many years until he becomes self-conscious and starts doing things like the happiness movie. Like he starts like plays a surreal killer. I hope so. His image too much. Yeah. He hears of every man

image. Family friendly and he also needs to do things where he doesn't actually have to act much. Yeah. Because he's like as soon as he's required to show real emotion, I think people will clue in. Well, he's clearly not a good actor. People like his personality, which is fine. I get that. God bless him. He seems like a likable guy.

It's just... He was a W.W. He was a W. W.W.E. Star. He's WWE star and WWE stars are just like Power Rangers villains, you know? Yeah. That's all that's about as much depth as they have as human beings and in context of the show anyway. Should I answer this question?

Should you? Do I answer it? You said Nicholas Cage movies, but you didn't even think of that. Nicholas Cage movies, yeah, and that's not a genre, but anything that is. It's like a, you never know what you're going to get. Because sometimes you get a great movie, you get a Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas or you get a vampire's kiss, which is like great,

but it's also terrible at the same time. And then sometimes you get a national treasure, which is a meme. He's got such a great, versatile portfolio that you never know what you're going to get with him. And that's the magic of Nicholas Cage. That's a really good point.

Uh-huh. Totally the opposite of Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Yeah, Dwayne Johnson, you're always going to get crap. Dantied. Can I recommend a question? Of course, I sort of like it. Okay, yeah.

Do it. I read the top one. Maybe you guys skipped this for a reason, but it was something like, what are your favorite movies that were never finished? Like, if you could see one movie that wasn't finished, just like a version of it that's done, like what would it be? Hutterowski's Dune. Yeah, that's the go-to. Elaborate Adam. I don't know if I have to.

Basically, Alejandro Hodorowski was going to make a version of Dune, and there's a documentary called Hodorowski's Dune. that explains the entire process. Very great documentary, very interesting watch, not just interesting, but really funny too. And the concepts that he had for this film were just so crazy and out there. And obviously, this is the director of my favorite movie, The Holy Mountain,

so I would have loved to have seen this. It paints this picture of like fanboy hype in everyone's minds that watches this documentary going, I wish I could watch this movie, but it will never exist, you know? Yeah. I just, I recommend, watching the movie to understand exactly

what it was going to be or what it was trying to be. Very ambitious. But Denny Villeneuve is making Dune. Villeneuve? Phil Knav. Oh. He's making Dune.

I know. It's going to be two movies. I'm happy about that. And Timothy... I trust him. Timothy Shalenei or whatever the fuck is name. He is... Timothy Muzabah.

He's in it. So that's going to be dope. I'm really looking forward to that. Yeah. The reason I brought this up is because I'm honestly, like, fascinated by like, like lost media or unproduced media or like defunct things and I've done a lot of reading on things that almost existed and I'm gonna choose this isn't like my favorite probably but it's one that really

fascinates me and it keeps me up at night that I don't know what this would have been like so the Beatles basically made two films and they were supposed to make three and it's often debated if any of their other like half films count as the third film oh yeah but originally what the third film was going to be was the Beatles were going to work with stanley kubrick to adapt J.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings. What? That would have been crazy.

The Beatles and Stanley Kubrick were going to make Lord of the Rings. Isn't that insane? Starring Yoko Ono and Saran. I don't know how I'd never heard of that. That's so awesome. I think he wouldn't sign over the rights was why I didn't get done. So maybe it didn't get too far into production, but that's an infamous thing that almost got done.

Yeah. Stanley Kubrick's AI would be a great unfinished movie. answer here too? I was going to say because my answer was Stanley Kubrick too, it's Napoleon. Because he was going to make a biopic about Napoleon. Oh yeah, right. Napoleon Bonaparte, which would have been very similar to Barry Lyndon, I assume. And he did a fuck ton of research.

He has, in the Stanley Kubrick Museum, there are like, just, it's a whole dresser of notes and facts. He had, like, researchers and historians look up everything about Napoleon. So we had this guy's entire life in front of him, and he was going to make a movie about it.

And it never happened, of course, because he died. And, like, the project fell through. And it had fallen through before in the past. But he was thinking of doing it after Eyes Wide Shut. But it just never happened. I heard that he, um, he saw a different Napoleon movie, which is also famously really in-depth and, like, one of the best militaristic recreations ever put to film.

And he was sort of, like, upset that it was good. Why? That makes sense. Can you imagine dedicating, like, your whole life to wanting to make a really good Napoleon movie, and then seeing someone else also do it, it'd be really upsetting. It's pretty good, and it's going to be hard to beat.

Yeah, I guess that's part of the reason, too. Do you know the movie, by chance, what it is? Because I'd be interested to hear it. I know that history buffs. History buffs did a video on it. Okay, I don't know. I'll have to check that out. I would love to see Stanley Kubrick's AI entirely to put to bed

that eternal debate. Because AI is such a complicated film. It's like, Kubrick wasn't spot. fired by Spielberg when he was making the movie. And then Spielberg was trying to adapt Kubrick's inspiration of Spielberg's work. And there's this huge debate over like, at what point did the movie fall apart, you know? Or how much of it was him even? Like, do you blame Spielberg for the bad bits or is it?

I blame Spielberg for all the bad bits. Yeah, I do too. Because it's an easy way to look at the situation. See, I heard that the ending, that's sappy romantic ending, I heard that was Kubrick wanting to do like a Spielberg ending. Yeah, but I think Kubrick would have had some level of irony to it or sarcasm. It all depends on how it would have been clear. Like the tone of the music and how it's shot.

Yeah, like there's so much. The shining is kind of, the shining also makes fun of that kind of, you know, simplistic family dynamic and all the characters act like sitcom characters, but you put some of these horrible situations. Like there would have been a hint that it was self-ful. aware. And in AI, the Spielberg version, there's no hint of that because Spielberg does that basically no matter what.

So in the context of a Spielberg movie, it's like, okay, he's doing his same shit again. He's doing his schmaltzy crap. Yeah. Alex, did you have another answer or is you just going to Orozki's Dune? I had one. Speaking of your weird Beatles, Lord of the Rings crossover, I really wanted to see

Guillermo the Hobbit that fell out. Oh yeah. I forgot. Lindsay Ellis has a fantastic video on that. Oh yeah, that's like that's I recommend that series to so many people so often Yeah, yeah, yeah, she did a great job with that she did a really good job Mm-hmm I'll put that in the description I've seen it in the recommended videos but have not clicked on it yet You totally should it's really interesting I think I will process how it all fell apart yeah it was all it all came down to

Of course shocker Of course That's what it always comes down to mm-hmm I just think Because what we got in the end was like a rushed like Peter Jackson had no time. He had no pre-production like he did for Lord of the Rings. He had a couple years pre-production to really develop his ideas. But he was just rushed into this deal with these three films.

Could have easily just been one, that whole story. Yeah. I reckon just one, like, maybe two and a half hour Hobbit film from Guillermo de Toro with his just insane, like, set design and production would have been really interesting to see. It wouldn't even need to, like, fit into the established Lord of the Rings. universe or anything. But that's probably why it fell through. He's too unique of a visual storyteller for that kind of thing to gel.

with probably what the Warner Bros or whoever owns the rights to it would have wanted from that franchise. Sorry. You're too good. Yeah, exactly. Just have Peter Jackson do it again. That's what they always say. Or they go with Alien. Let's just have Ridley Scott do it again.

Yeah, that'll work. Why don't you let someone else try? No, let Ridley Scott do it. again. When the passion is gone, like, you need someone with ideas, fresh perspective to come in and put their vision on it, not just rush someone in who happened to do a really good job at the previous time. I mean, what do you guys think of the sudden trend of like, I mean, you know, there's this new thing with like they take a film from the 80s and that they do like a really, like a sudden sequel. So, you know, so like they're doing it with Terminator. They got the original

like director to do Terminator and they're doing it with Halloween. Yeah, Jamie Lee Curtis. is in it again. Yeah, great. As a grandma. Do you think that's just like a distraction or do you think that adds anything to it bringing the same person and to do it like a sequel? It's just another marketing thing.

People will like it if we bring the same people back. It makes it feel like it. Because you're marketing towards the people that remember and are fans of the original. It's the exact same shit we were talking about earlier with Disney in their stupid live action remakes. Yeah, exactly. It's like a new movie.

Make a movie like Halloween. You have to be. blame the audience though. That's what makes films... Yeah, well... Because if people didn't see this shit, they wouldn't do it, you know? People keep seeing it. That's why they keep getting made.

Yeah. But the thing is, these don't do well. Do they? Not all of them. I feel like they don't. A lot of them flop. I guess, yeah. I guess it's a safer bet than putting money in...

Recycling IPs. Although, look at Hereditary or something. That movie made like $60 million dollars, and it's this original horror film. 60 million is nothing when you're talking about, like, the studio Bigwig. who are recycling through old IPs trying to figure out what they want to make next.

Yeah. You know, that's like not even the budget. Yeah, but how much can a Halloween remake? You know, I've always said, and I know financially this makes no sense. I'm not dumb. I've always said they should remake bad movies and make them good movies.

Do you know how much I would kill to see, like, and this sounds ridiculous. I would love to see like a competent remake of Manos, the hands of fate. Yeah. You know, just like take the lore and just make it kind of a scary movie. Mm-hmm.

That'd be great. Set-ups there. What they usually do is people just take those bad ideas and make them into something great. Like, under the skin, they took all those cliché alien abduction movies. Yeah, species and that shit where women seduce the men and they eat their bones or something. They took that and made it like this weird fucking art film.

I mean, a lot of, like, famous, a lot of beloved films are secretly remakes. Like, The Thing is a remake. Uh-huh. And that's a classic. I love the thing. I don't have any other examples, but you know what I mean. Yeah. Where's that they was just inspired?

Yeah. There's all these directors who were inspired by a campy-be-be-movies. I mean, that's what George Lucas and Spielberg did. They watched all those campy movies from the 40s and 50s, and they made them into the modern-day blockbusters, and they gained huge success from that. Not a direct remake, obviously, but clearly inspired by that stuff. We need a competent remake of Howard the Duck.

That's right! Jim's gun, get on it. Oh, wait. Oh, sorry. I don't think he's blacklisted everywhere though I think he's just blacklisted in like Disney And he might even get a job with Disney at some point in the future Disney owns 40% of the film industry

I think that's what that's what not 40% of the film industry 40% of like the box office at this point Oh box office yeah because they own they own everything including They don't own 40% of every movie being made But they own 40% of the money that movies make Because everyone's making movies in their backyards Exactly, which is awesome. I encourage it.

You can make a movie easier today than ever before. Independent filmmakers are on the rise. Go hit up 824 and be like, yo, I've got this really weird horror movie. Can you please make a trailer for it that makes it seem like it's a cliched horror movie that everybody's seen so that when people see it in theaters they hate it, but critics really like it? Hell yeah. But they got to make money at them. That's like what keeps the industry guns.

If they didn't do that, the movie wouldn't make money, and then the industry would fall apart. So our economy would collapse. Fuck you, people. We're going to lie to you. All right, I guess that's it for questions. That's it, yeah. And I guess before we end the podcast, there is a film recommendation for next episode. Yes, yes, yes.

It's my turn, right? Oh, boy. It is your turn. Go for it. Well, because he was saying yes, so I was like, uh-oh, did I? accidentally skip up. No, no, no, no. It's your turn.

I'm just excited to see what you're going to give me. Why, thank you. Yeah. So if anybody wants to join in on the discussion for this film in two weeks from now on our next episode, be sure to watch it. It's a film called La Planet Sauvage, otherwise English title you'll find it as Fantastic Planet. It's an animated movie from 1973, directed by René Lalou.

I think it won the palm door It won something a can I'm pretty sure it won the palm door But it won't something I don't remember But I would yeah I mean It's a short movie

I wouldn't look up much about it I guess Like don't watch any trailers I know you guys probably never really do Just experience it And it'll be a I'm sure an interesting discussion I'm about to suggest something though By the way

neither of you have seen this, right? No. Okay. I'm about to suggest since the movie is only like 72 minutes long, there's also a 10-minute short film that was made before this movie from the same director. And if you guys are interested in watching that as well to add to the discussion, not like we'll run out of things to discuss very quickly with this film. But I figure the short film beforehand, Les Escargo.

or I think it's called the Snails 1966 same director if it's actually on the criterion Blu-ray there is a copy of that on the special features might be able to find it online either way if we can watch that that would be cool so check it out for next week

it also won it won the special award at Cannes Film Festival won something Not the Palm Door, but it wants something I can. Yeah, exactly. That's an achievement. Thank you all for listening very much. Thank you to our very special guests, Quentin Reviews.

You were Fab. You were great. Oh, thanks. Do you have anything you'd like to plug other than your channel? Realized we should start doing that. I think you have a YouTube Wiki page that has a sentence or two. Okay, cool. All right.

Cool. If you want to support the podcast, go to sardonicast.com. $2 a month will get you the episodes early or patreon.com slash sardonicast. You can help support the show and they will be up when they are edited. Thank you all for listening. Any closing statements or last words? Any final thoughts? No?

I came. Oh, God. That's all you need. Oh, no. That's a good way to end it. Fucking dog looking up jizz and kissing somebody. Anyway, fuck off. It's funny.

That's bad. All right. Bye, everybody. Bye, bye, bye, bye. Goodbye, goodbye. Bye, goodbye.