Sardonicast - Sardonicast 162: A Talking Cat!?!, A Talking Pony!?!

Episode Date: April 15, 2024

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3.2. 1. A man can miss a lot of things when he doesn't take the time to look around. I can feel my nasal... I can feel my nasal... It was your first time. You fucked it up! It was your first time! You fucked up! Yeah, there's a lot of pressure on me, man! 162 episodes! I've never done it is! Okay, yeah, I got to give you some credit there. All right. But it's because I was also confused because I was changing character. I don't know if you're remembering what I got to. Well, that's, you got to think about that beforehand. Yeah, you're right. You got to think about the simplicity of it.

of it. That's how you decide. Yeah, this is way too complex. But I gotta finish it now, right? Okay, okay. Let me do the second line. I can feel my nasal passages start to open up. I can breathe. I can actually breathe. That's a famous quote from a talking pony. A talking pony? Thank you. Thank you. I need your energy to give the title justice. I mean, yeah. There's no other way to say it.

Yeah. I'm Adam from your movie Suck. This is Sardonicast. I'm asked from I.G. And yeah, be kind to me for my first little attempt to opening there. Yeah. You know? It's hard work.

Everybody only ever sees the end result of perfection and discipline. And no one ever sees the steps you take to get there. You're like practicing that in the mirror for like four hours before we record every time. In between episodes, I'm like. I've got to get the intro to write. I don't just wing it every day at this point especially. So yeah, we saw a lovely duology, but first we're going to talk about a couple other things. We went to the United States of America.

We did. The city that never sleeps. Is that what they call it? I've been calling it the city of the city of fuck. That's what I've been calling it. cool in it. Okay. There do be fucking going on in that city.

I mean, every city. Yeah, I mean in every way you can interpret that word. Fuckery. Just fuckery, yeah. It's just out of pocket, though. It's crazy. It's pretty fucked. We can't say it too many times in a row.

We'll get demonetized. Anyway, so there's a convention in Las Vegas, Nevada, United States, Las Vegas Furcon. And it was happening around someone's birthday. And we wanted to go. And I brought Alex. And Alex brought his brother. I'm my bro.

And a bunch of people went. We got Olivia from who manages the highlights channel. And it was a fun time. I stayed there longer than anybody else. I'm like a seasoned convention goer slash hotel stayer. Yeah, you know what's up. And I know I need like an extra day at the beginning to like get settled and just adjust myself, get my room in order, you know, get my snacks, my drinks.

Mm-hmm. And yeah, we, we did a bunch of shit. A lot of the, a lot of stuff I'd already done before, but it was like, okay, well, I've got some first timers with me. Alex had never been to Vegas. It's not like I go often, but I've been there three or four times. I was very thankful to have like a guide or someone who knew what was up. So I appreciated the group with all the different Vegas knowledge.

So I kind of got to fast track and be caught up to speed on like, yeah, the best casinos to go or, you know, the shows to see. You know, the best place to get a drink here or blah, blah, blah, the $2 hot dog and Papsed. The $2 hot dog and Papsed is like the hot. the highlight of the trip. Yeah, I'm telling everybody about this. A big hot dog. That was so sick. And a Pabst beer for two US dollars.

Yeah, you can't make it up. Oh. What was the place called? It was near Fremont and it was called Something Grand. I'm going to look it up on my phone right now just for anybody. Oh, what was it? I remember looking at the poker chips with it on there. Yeah, was there something grand?

Yeah, hold on. got it here. Downtown grand hotel and casino. That's the one. So Fremont is like old Vegas. It's cooler than the new strip. The new strip is just like way somehow more predatory, but way more expensive. And also just way more difficult to get around. Like old Vegas, you can walk across a street, which is nice. There are streets that you can walk with crosswalks and stuff. Whereas like the strip, you have to go up an escalator and then like across a bridge or like through another casino and like everything's intentionally a maze and they're just trying to trap you there. Yeah, as a Brit, like these American roads, they are, they are cursed.

Yeah. But you just want to, you just want to cross the road and it takes like 20 minutes. So what are you doing? What is this infrastructure? It's built for cars. Yeah, yeah. They just like don't want people walking. It's so crazy.

And then they just decide not to have like a functional. public transit system also. You can't walk anywhere. You need a car. You can't really bus or train very easily. You have to go out of your fucking way. And like your hotel room was, if there wasn't traffic, you could probably walk to it from where I was staying, maybe three minutes.

But it would take like 15, 20 minutes just because of that stupid system. They use it with it. Yeah, it's dumb. It's a lot of, the same problem exists in quite a few cities in Canada. Canada, maybe not to the extent of Vegas for sure. Yeah. Canada has like at least, you know, good public transit in most places, good compared to America, maybe not as good compared to like...

Yeah, it doesn't help that the vehicles that are rocketing around as well are like these just mega trucks. Oh yeah. So, so big they can't actually exist on the road in the UK. No, exactly. So some cyber trucks. That was pretty funny, pretty cringy. It's just like there is this, the best way I've been describing Vegas to people to those who haven't been is kind of like, you know how North Korea where they build like fake supermarkets to try and trick people that it's like, they're not hiding something, you know?

It's like that, but instead of trying to hide a scary government, it's just to try and trick people and spending money. Yeah. And it works. That's the scariest part. It's like a Disney world, but like somehow more. evil everything everything feels like a film set like nothing feels real is it's so surreal and you're like you're constantly in this trickle of like booze and you're smoking and it's just like oxygen being pumped into like every room you're going in no

clocks no windows yeah no clocks anywhere no windows like fake skies painted indoors and it's just like oh my god I'm in Paris right now nope I'm in Italy there's the Eiffel tower yeah it's so surreal and strange yeah but addictive as well like it taps into that like monkey brain it's great to do once it's great to experience and be like wow I'm this is really interesting I could yeah because you can feel that pull of like oh it's gambling has never really been my bug but man when you're there when you're in it yeah and you're making a few wins at the table and you can you get that dopamine rush and you're like oh it's fun it's like playing a video this is fun I can see

how people wind up remorgeting their houses yeah it is like a video game. Straight up. That's why you just keep it in Vegas, don't bring your habits back home. And also, anybody going to Vegas, take out exactly how much money you're willing to spend the entire trip and then don't hit the ATM again. If you lost it, you lost it, suck it up. Yeah.

Do not hit the ATM a second time. Know exactly how much your budget is. Yeah. Yeah, that is the way to do it. And I was happy I didn't come back in negative with the gambling. Oh, yeah? Which is cool. Yeah, yeah.

Nice. Yeah, I was pleased about that. Yeah, we, so we didn't just gamble the whole time. No. We did, we obviously ate hot dogs and beer. We went to, actually, I'm just going to look, I have this whole thing scheduled out because I'm just, I plan things. So I can actually look at the schedule that I made and remind myself exactly everything that was done. All right, we did.

A Skype room? First, I flew in on the Tuesday before you got there. We hit up a big weed dispensary. Hell yeah. You can buy weed. The legality. It's like, it's legal in Nevada, but like, I think you're just not supposed to smoke it in public. Yeah.

Yeah, they really just don't care. Yeah. It's Vegas. Yeah. The weed was for not me. I don't smoke weed, not for any moral reasons. I'm just, I have to be in the right mood, I guess. went to a fucking all you can eat lobster buffet the day before you got there that was

really good actually I mean usually you don't want to do like seafood at a buffet depending on what buffet you're at especially like I don't know landlocked place like Nevada I would say avoid the seafood if you're in like Reno but in Vegas it was at the palms casino resort it was like you could get as many lobster tails as you want and just that alone was like okay, I'm getting a value out of this. And there were some, yeah, there was some really good thing. They had an espresso ice cream that was really good. But yeah, I would recommend that buffet.

And it was like, what, 65 bucks per person or something? It was like between 65 and it was no more than 85. Okay. But then, you know, if you order a lobster tail at any other restaurant. Lobsters expensive. Which is like already going to be like 35 plus dollars at least. You know, he eat like four of them. you've made your bunny back, basically.

We... And then Alex arrived that night with Jamie. We immediately went to the Cosmo. Yeah. Even though we only had like a couple hours before we wanted to go to bed. We got the Verbena cocktail, which is like a weird tequila, citrusy kind of sweet drink, but it has like a flower, like a plant, like bowl thing.

A little fruit thing. Yeah. I don't know. I was trying to remember. I remember the cocktail name, Verbena, V. E-R-B-E-N-A. Okay. And then you chew the thing and then it tingles your tongue and then it changes the flavor

palette of the drink. And if you don't know what to expect, you might be thinking you're having an allergic reaction, but no, that's just the tingly action. That was wild. Coding your tongue. Then the next day, we went to the fucking sugar factory at noon. And that was extra, as in, obviously in the name, just a bunch of sugar. we kind of, you know, by the name alone,

my boyfriend fucking loves sugar. So that was just for him. Went to the right place. They had like Snoop Dog on the wall and like the Kardashians. Oh yeah, a bunch of celebrities on the wall. I've forgotten it's like a big, yes, like a big influencer celebrity hotspot that place in Vegas. Like I had heard of it before.

Yeah. Put two and two together. It's for the ground or whatever. Yeah, yeah. And although the drinks were, were mostly stupid and too sugary. There were some that were good. They were like the coconut margarita was actually not bad.

And the sliders, the hamburger sliders were actually good. Yeah, they were, the sponge-wob ones. They were nice, yeah. Yeah, they were multi-colored buns for no reason. Like green, red, yeah. Those were actually delicious. Those were like maybe, I don't know if I can think of like a more satisfying, like better slider that I've had.

I mean, yeah. Like just like a burger. slider a regular burger slider. It worked really well. Yeah, dude. Then we went outside and we hopped inside the Taco Bell canteena, which is, if you haven't been to the state, this is in a few places in the States. They have a Taco Bell where you can drink in it. It's just Taco Bell that serves alcohol. And so it's like, you know, the seating's a little more modern, I guess. It still feels like a fucking fast food restaurant.

but you can order a mountain dew Baja blast slushy and put like two shots of rum in it. Like you can order it with the rum and it's so good. Like I don't drink Mountain Dew on its own. I don't drink Baja blast or anything. But that's slushy with rum, it's like the perfect way to drink it. It's so satisfying and you get it in like a fucking three foot long,

dumbass, like plastic novelty container. Yeah. It's perfect in that desert heat as you're walking around. True, yeah. Also, Vegas is way too dry. I was applying lip balm like every fucking five seconds. Oh, yeah. So, yeah, cracking up light dry sponge bob in the movie.

Yeah. Yeah, that was dumb. And then we went to Fremont for a little bit. We checked that out. And then Alex and Jamie went to bed early. Mm-hmm. Because they were jet lagged and other reasons. Yeah.

And then I stayed up and I partied with furies at the fucking Area 15 thing and that was really cool. Stayed up really late. Next day, we went to the It Chapter 2 escape room. This was fun. This was fun. Although I will say the same company, their best escape rooms easily are the Saw escape room and the Itchapter 1 escape room. It chapter two is a little underwhelming compared to what the chapter one one was.

Saw is perfect though. Yeah. I need to do that one day. Yeah, yeah. It's worth the trip. Because just the idea of saw it like it already fits the concept of the escape room. But yeah, so if you've ever been to an escape room,

there's a lot of like local ones you might see in like any city or around the world. But they're not nearly as elaborate or high effort. the escape rooms from this company, Escape It or like the, you know, Blair Witch Saw and It are basically their three ones. There's a lot of effort put into the rooms. There's a lot of effort put into like the design of each room and like just the amount of rooms you go through.

It's a fun, interesting experience and would definitely recommend. Yeah, it's like a big production. I've done an escape room, I did one in like 2019 that was quite quaint and like Doctor Who themed and it was cute or whatever. But this is like like everything in Vegas. It's like really tiny room. Yeah, exactly. Everything in Vegas. This is just like a big, big production basically, big animatronics, you know, multiple rooms all themed differently. There's a different challenges and whatnot. Yeah, that was cool. And then we did some convention stuff. We waited in a line to live. like get a wristband that had like maybe 15 people in line but took like an hour and a half to move for no reason yeah the jet lag was hitting that sucks that had no like most free conventions sure there can the size of a con can be like okay this this line's like 300 people but they have systems to get the line to the front and if you're waiting for a while it's because there's a lot of people this con registration was a fucking breeze the registration took like

10 minutes to get through the line and then this stupid other line to get your ID I don't know what the hell they were doing it was like they were just like thoroughly checking like I don't know they were doing like a fucking pH test on like your ID like I don't know what they were doing it was so weird although it happened again with the NHS out betraying me oh no to prove my vaccine status where like it happened when I was in Canada I thought I had screenshots I did screenshots I did screenshots it but I didn't have my name in the in the fucking screenshot. So I had to load up the app and the app kept crashing and I literally had to stand

there for like 15 minutes refreshing. Damn. Waiting for it. It's like man. I tried to foolproof it for you. I still fucked it up. Yeah, it's okay. Next day, we didn't have a lot planned for these days because we were like, oh, the

con's going on sort of thing and we had some days after the con where we could do more like outside Vegas stuff. I think we went to the pinball. museum this day. Yeah, that sounds right. Yeah, that was really cool. I'd never heard of that before. That's a cool location because I've always wanted to, I kind of missed the whole like arcade culture. I was like right at the tail end late when I was born. So hearing like the stories of my dad and playing original space invaders and whatnot. It was cool to go and play some real old arcade machines and pinball machines. It was really cool place actually. It's like

a big Lubowski pinball machine, like an odd episode one podracer thing. It was like, I was just tickling all this nostalgic kind of stuff for me. The branding for these is really interesting because there's a lot where timeline wise you'd think like, why would they make a pinball machine out of this? Like surely there aren't that many people. But Avatar was there, right? Yeah. Like, yeah. They're really niche kind of things, but they exist. There's a really good YouTube channel that I love called Technology Connections and they made a couple of interesting videos on just like the ins and outs of early pinball machines and how they work. Have you ever checked out that channel?

It's one of my favorites. It's really good. No, I haven't heard of it, no. Yeah, yeah, it's great. Open up a tab, check it out later. They're awesome. And, yeah, what else did we do that day? I don't know. It wasn't on my schedule, whatever we did.

I think we walked around and... I think we went exploring. That was the fallout themed room party, right? Oh, maybe. I think that was the night before I actually The drinks Yeah it's in there So this is kind of the vagus thing as well

Like it puts you in the Vegas blur Everything's just like a Kind of blurs together Yeah there were some cool room parties At the convention Some people The the every Not every convention

But most conventions They'll have like a theme for the year This one was like Nuclear Wasteland Fallet And so everybody like Did fallout shit And so the room parties would Like they would

They would basically make all these fallout themed drinks and they were really good drinks at the real party is it putting a glow stick in it making it look like infected or whatever yeah it's awesome yeah hopefully not a leaking glow stick and then we at one point we went back to fremont and I showed Alex the heart attack grill which we did not do go inside and order anything from but the windows were open you know like the side of the restaurant was over yeah I don't think you could could make me? I don't know if you could pay me to go there. I think I could make you if I lied about what it was. I think if I said, no, it's really good, then you would go. But I just, I couldn't do

that to you. Because it makes you feel sick and it's not even like satisfying. Oh, wow, they kicked all the burgers in lard and you have to get all the extra bacon if you want it to be worth your while because it's like the burger is like fucking $15. But then, you can have 10 slices of bacon for 97 cents. It's like, well, I guess I have to do that to recoup my losses. And they, well, they spank you if you can't finish your food. And the waiters are, like, dressed up in nurse outfits. Yeah, they make you show, they, like, change you into a hospital gown.

They, like, put that over your clothes and you have to eat there. If you're over 350 pounds, you eat for free. There's a scale right outside. Yeah. Man, there's so many things in Vegas that are just, like, a parody of itself. And that's another example. of it. So I can't believe this exists. It's the perfect place for it. Yeah, yeah, it belongs there. Yeah, because I think they, they've only ever had one restaurant, but they've changed location

a couple times. I think they started in like Arizona or something. Mm-hmm. I believe it. Yeah. All of their spokespeople keep dying because they keep only hiring morbidly obese people and then they just eat at the restaurant and that finishes them. It's so morbid. Yeah, but then they sell cigarettes there. They show the shots. Oh, I didn't know that. You can do shots of alcohol and prescription pill bottles instead of shot glasses. You can get like a liter of red wine in an IV bag that you just like stick a straw on your mouth. They have the waitresses, the nurses like administered jello shots like through syringes

into your mouth. Yeah, I hadn't had a jello shop before. Oh yeah, that was funny. Oh, God, they're so disgusting. They are disgusting, but they're funny. I don't know what it is about them that makes me compelled to keep. It's tickle-goo. I'm like, ooh, there's jello shots there.

Maybe this flavor went kale. No, I never expect it to taste good. They're like difficult to even like consume. Yeah. Yeah, they're nonsense. We, on Sunday, we did a Ka by Cirque de Salele, a crazy fucking show, probably the best show in Vegas, in my opinion. Oh, incredible. utterly incredible never seen anything like it really just like an absolute celebration of all these different disciplines yeah coming together um and it's like it's almost overwhelming at points like it's like the fact you're even seeing it talking about that vagus haze it's like it's like putting me in a dream state this is so like incredible what i'm seeing the this big hydraulic uh platform that they like integrate all these different

like set designs and uses out of like one minute it's a beach the next minute it's a tower that they're climbing next minute it's a boat it's like so creative and the staging of all of it and the live music combined with the singing and the physical strength and oh it's just utterly incredible yeah yeah that blew in my mind it's very cool and i love there's like these um they there there's some characters that they're in like costumes like one's a starfish one's a turtle and one's like a crap yeah and they're all really great performers like you can the the expression of these characters and how they move conveys so much yeah intent and emotion and and personality which really adds to it and then you have you know some people that are just like so

physically insane just like dangling off of each other from like fucking what 50 hundred feet like how how how how how do you think they were because the top of the stage they would go sometimes they would disappear into like the top of the stage. Yeah, yeah. That was like really high up. It was like, yeah, must be like six stories high, maybe higher. Like it's ridiculous. Yeah, I think higher than that, honestly.

Yeah, yeah, honestly. Yeah, it's insane. Yeah, that blew my mind. And the, the stage is like moving and hydraulic. And so the performance, the performers have to put a lot of faith into the, the mechanics and engineering and structural integrity of this, this moving. platform that, you know, if it didn't do the things at the right time. Yeah, the timing is crucial to all the way. Yeah, they injured at the very least.

And that was another thing, like the pace of it. It was, I said this on Jarre, I think, like, uh, it's where you want from a perfect, like, action movie where it's always outdoing itself. And I felt like the show did that perfectly. Yeah. Like crescendo's in scale that it's getting more and more absurd and what they're pulling off. then it ends. This is just perfect.

Yeah, I love Cirque de Soleil. I've never seen a bad Cirque de Soleil show, but that one's my favorite for sure. Yeah, I can't imagine it, but yeah, that was incredible. Yeah. Then we did Top Golf? That was fun too. Yeah.

Let's see a scoot swing. How do we describe it to people that have never done it? It's kind of like a Vegas's interpretation of a driving range, you know? Yeah. Add the colors, add the neon. It's in the middle of the big city. you can see the big buildings and skyscrapes in the background. You're smacking golf balls,

sometimes with integrated Angry Birds mini games. Yeah. Weird stuff like that. You're smacking golf balls, and then there's some sort of tracking system that detects where your golf balls land, and you can, like, get more points, and then it keeps the score,

and then you have usernames and all that shit. Yeah. That was very fun. Yeah, it was fun. Next day, we went to a... Wait, did we go to a tiki bar before the sphere? No, we went to the teaky bar before Ka. That teaky bar was fucking funny.

Sorry, we're back on the Saturday. My friend, San, loves teaky bars. He's a teaky bar addict. And so he had to bring us to this teaky bar called Frankies. And the drinks are very strong. Extremely strong. I could only have one, yeah. Yeah, filled with sugar.

And there are some characters that go to this bar by themselves and just get absolutely plastered and make other people uncomfortable. Oh, the water guy. It's a part of the experience. Yeah, what was his problem? I was like, yeah, I was ordering drinks. I was like, okay, and also some waters, because I'm a responsible human being and I want to keep hydrated as well.

And he's like, oh, water guy over here. Water! I'm like. Yeah, he was just being an asshole for no reason. I hate to break it to you, but your drink has water in it too. Like your ice cubes. He didn't like it, though, when you said. that he did not like it well he got quiet and then kind of angry and then just kept

himself a bit more and then he would like showed up to the table and was like harassing Olivia and then he like followed us out oh I didn't see the Uber oh no yeah when the Uber was picking us up he like went up to my window before we like drove away and just like mumbled some shit like I couldn't even understand him but yeah he was wasted he was awfully wasted yeah like by himself too it's like okay uh-huh I hope I hope you figure out whatever in your life is causing this but you know uh yeah next day the Vegas sphere yes where we saw a film from Darren Aronovsky Darren's new one a documentary yeah what is it Noah part two I mean what do you call it yeah there was a bit of Noah in it a postcard from Earth

That's right. Is what it's called. And so when you buy your overpriced tickets for this big-ass fucking sphere thing, it's set, so there's two things you could possibly see. Is this? And I'm a Darren Aronofsky fan, so obviously I'm going to do this. Or you could see a YouTube concert. Not huge into YouTube.

I'm good. I saw, you know, some people took some videos from their phone and posted it on Reddit or somewhere. And I was like, oh, interesting. There's things, you know, there's like colors. all over the thing. So that could be a cool place to see a concert, just like I wish it was not you too. Yes, I'm, yeah.

Postcard from Earth was definitely, I guess before we even talk about the movie, they say, so the time for doors was 4.30. We showed up at 425. Oh, yeah, this was an old. And then there was a huge fucking line outside that they don't like, in until, so like, apparently you're supposed to get there way before if you want to check out

anything in the atrium. So on the, on the ticket, it says, oh, the first hour, just check out the atrium. And there's a lot of interactive cool stuff, apparently. And then the second hour is like the actual film, the film, you know. Yeah. But we didn't, we, we, we were there before the 430 doors. We arrived in line at 425. We got inside at 505. So we were literally in line for 40 minutes before we got in the building. It was 40 minutes well. Literally, yeah, I timed it. And even then, like, the experience thing, like, there didn't seem to be much.

The Adrian was fucking stupid. It was so dumb. What was the point? It was like, people were queuing up to be, like, scanned, like, their bio data being scanned or something weird like that. And then there was like a little robot, like, doing a awkward jig. Oh, yeah. Remember that? The robot, I think I wrote

down, did I write down what the robot said? I don't know. I recorded a video or something, but the robot was like, ready to be amazed. And then it just like pivoted a little. I'm like, this is, this is something that you would see in like the background of one of those like moving on a track Disney Park rides. Yeah.

And like the 1980s. Like this is not, this doesn't even resemble new technology. This is disgusting. Yeah, the animatronics in the escape room were more impressive than the sphere. Yeah. So that was fucking bullshit. And so it's a huge, it's a huge atrium where. you know, credit where credit is due, you didn't have to wait very long for a drink because

there's a lot of space and a lot of bars. The drinks were very expensive. That would do it, yeah, a $30 drink or whatever. Yeah, definitely not. Definitely not the hot dog and Papps deal. No. Ooh, I forgot to mention about that hot dog. You could put as many fucking onions or sauerkraut or condiments on it as you want it.

They had a whole fucking tray for that shit. just scoop on the onions there was more onion than hot dog for me I was just about there too make me hungry of it it was yeah that that that is uh that's that's like top value of the decade for me yeah you went there like multiple times yeah

did that deal like three or full times yeah we literally went back for that because like there would be points there was like well we should probably eat something and then it's like well it's probably cheaper to just Uber there than buy anything close by. Yeah, we did that a few times. I got two of those hot dogs and two beers and I was like, I'm good for a while. Anyway, the atrium in the sphere was fucking stupid.

It was just dumb. Pointless. Yeah. Then the show starts. And, you know, anybody who's seen pictures of the Vegas sphere from the outside, on the inside, it's also a big screen. And so you're kind of immersed in this 360 degree, but not quite because you can't see behind yourself, as in you can't see like through the seats and the crowd. Yeah.

There's definitely seats and crowd. But it's mostly, you know, you can look straight up and there's stuff. Mm-hmm. And essentially what he filmed, I was enjoying it for the first bit. The intro was awful. The intro was like... The intro and outro were really bad. Yeah.

So they had an intro and outro where they were they were like trying to inject some sort of story. And there were two characters. They're like, we're in space because the earth is dying. So we got to find a different thing. And they were trying to be all, I don't know, this sappy kind of emotional like weird tone to it. And this narrator that just kept was, she was. The narration is very corny. Very corny.

Yeah. And the effects for the end. intro and outro we're like, this is not new looking CG. Yeah. Like you made this specifically for the sphere and the sphere is like what, less than a year old? Yeah. So maybe. Yeah, I don't know why it needed that at all. Like the title postcards from Earth, like that kind of does the trick, to be honest. Like when it is just a slideshow of like landscape shots, I'm kind of into it. Like it's a big tech flex and it's all overpriced and whatnot. But it's definitely like an experience involving screens that I've never had before.

Yeah. There was something quite cool about that. And they're like blasting you're there as you're like flying over deserts. And I like, yeah, the focus on like animals and whatnot. And yeah, you could get like really cool shots set up where you're kind of like in an enormous cave or something with the water droplets stripping. And obviously the quality of the screen is really high. Um, so it really does trick your brain at points.

Yeah. Like moving almost like on a roller coaster. Yeah, there's something cool about it. Yeah, you kind of get vertigo in some of the shots where like it tilts down over like a canyon. Yeah, and the reveal shot is quite cool where it starts in a normal expected aspect ratio. And then, yeah, as it gets to the point where it's introducing the postcard montage, the earth kind of zooms in outside of the aspect ratio and kind of comes at the audience.

And it has quite a strange effect to it, as you're saying. Yeah. Mm-hmm. If you get a little burst of adrenaline, and you feel the wind flowing by. Yeah. It's quite a unique experience that, yes, it's not best utilized with this, for sure, but there is something that's going to be done with this. That's going to be really cool.

Is there, though? I see, I don't know. Because I feel like I read something, like the people that made the sphere are like trying to figure out how to monetize it. Like, like, there's thought they'd plan that first. I think it's not successful. But we'll see because right now there's only two things you can watch and one of them is like And there were a lot of empty suits when we went. Yeah, it wasn't like a packed thing

Mm-hmm. They didn't make like a movie that everybody's got to see. You know what they should really do is just get like a real director. Well, I mean, Derenovsky is, Aronovsky is a real director. Mm-hmm. Get like fucking James Cameron or like Christopher Nolan and make something that has like a narrative and maybe something that you could also release in regular theaters, but you'll never get the true experience unless you see it in the sphere. Because people go see the IMAX version of Dune. People see the IMAX version of Oppenheimer, right? Mm-hmm.

Yeah, it kind of, it reminds me a little bit of like when I was younger and would go to like the Science Museum in London and they do tailor-made kind of screenings on their IMAX screen there. But they were only like half an hour long or whatever. Yeah, I guess it is kind of restricted by the big kind of gimmicky, flashy Vegas nature of it where it's so big, the prices are going to be quite high, I guess. And making that sustainable is a bit challenging. Yeah, the cheapest tickets were $100 US for this hour long film and dicking around in a like dated bullshit like atrium. Really, the film was one hour long.

The film was 55 minutes long. It was less than an hour. With like 10 minutes of that being the cringy beginning of the section. And so the style of the film at its core, like the majority of it, is like a bunch of different nature shots, some moving, some, you know, micro and macro. You get like the big canyon and mountains. You get the sky. You get like insects. And there was, there were a couple notable moments.

So like some of them, they would get like really small and you would see like. Jumping spider? Yeah. one shot had a spider and then for no reason they just CG'd it jumping at the audience like wow like because they're trying to you thought that was CG I thought that they they had a real spider and then the jumping motion was CG yes see I thought it was real um but I could be wrong no I think I think the spider was really there and then they used the real spider as a reference and then manipulated it with CG to do right the jumping motion

towards the camera. Okay. Maybe it jumped somewhere in the frame, but they definitely manipulated it to be, because that was like a perfectly centered jump. Right at the lens. Like, I don't know. Can you train a spider? Like, maybe.

I don't know. Crazy stuff's going on in Hollywood. So that was dumb and unnecessary because it was like, whoa, it's coming right at you. And then there's, the sound design was very, really weird because they were definitely Foley artists trying to be like, okay, we're making a sound for everything. Like, you're underwater that was like bubbly. But there was one shot where like there was a fish out of like 10 fish on the screen. There was one that opened its mouth. Just doing a thing that fish do. They open their mouth sometimes. And the Foley team decided,

oh, he should be screaming. And it sounded just like a guy screaming. It was like, ah, like underwater. I was like, what the f did you just get one of the Foley guys to just actually scream like that's not what a fit what that is what it sounded like what the fuck yeah that was just obscured enough like to meet you question it that yeah that was hilarious yeah yeah yeah are you hearing that and nothing else in the film is like that yeah yeah so it's not like it's not like a funny you know like the it's not like intentional yeah smiling friends the cutaway of the bird on the tree that screams yeah yeah it's it's not like that or it's like that or it's like this is a gag. This is like, what were you thinking? Because this doesn't seem like it's trying.

The whole tone of this is way more serious. But you got that screaming fish, which was the funniest shit in the world. That was worth the price of admission. Just the screaming fish. And then there were these two really old people seated in the front row that recorded the entire thing, literally from start to finish unbroken, sitting next to each other, both recording the exact same spot on the screen. And not capturing the totality of the... So, like, absolutely pointless. It would be impossible to.

Because they're in portrait mode and he's not even moving it around to see like, oh, there's things on the left and the right and he's just literally just... Just have... The camera was just forward the whole time. Who's that for? When are you going to watch that again? I don't know. I don't know.

Maybe I'll upload it somewhere. But like, I don't know who that's for. Yeah, trying to maximize value. That's a, that was such a bizarre thing. And so he was funny. And the wife was funny too, because she didn't know that her phone light was on. That the flashlight was on. Thankfully, it wasn't that distracting because the screen is taking up so much of the room.

Like, the room is bright when there's bright images on the screen. So, like, it's not that distracting for someone else to be doing something. but that was just I got a lot of enjoyment out of them They were my favorite I thought it was a cool experience I'm glad I went I don't think I'm going to rush back

Yeah it's just too overpriced in that That first half is really stupid For me to go back to the sphere They'll have to get like fucking Denny Villeneuve Releasing part three or some shit Oh yeah Like I don't know

Yeah I'll be there for that But I guess just a kind of couple more comments on this film because I was a little pissed off about halfway into it. Because like, it was pretty apparent that it was trying to be like the Katsi trilogy, like Koyani Skatsi, and then the same producers of those did things like Samsara. And it was like, okay, like, you're trying to be this. Whatever, I guess that the screen justifies like the difference. You could say it's like in the same vein or genre or whatever.

But then as it goes along, I'm like, okay, they're exactly. shots that are being replicated here. Like now it's a little too close for comfort. Some of the like sped up crowd motion shots and the way that the time lapse kind of like blurred, had motion blur effect with them. I was like that's exactly from Kaua and he's got to. And then as the film was going on like in those sections where the visuals were like way too close, the soundtrack was trying way too hard to sound like Philip.

glass from Koyani Skatsi. And it was like, okay, this isn't just temp music. This is a temp movie. So, Aronovsky was clearly told by somebody, do this. And that's what he did. And that's kind of frustrating. Because if you're putting his name on the fucking poster and the marketing and everything,

you would want to see something from him. Like, you would want to see some expression from the filmmaker that you enjoy. But no, he was just director for hire in a way that, like, Terence Malick would have done a better job. You know, like, he was director for hire in a way that he wasn't the best person for the job. It's not like Aronovsky is known for this type of style of filmmaking at all. No, no. Yeah, the most Aronovsky parts are the beginning and end and not in like ways that you really want.

No. Yeah, it's kind of like, no, a tier. Yeah. Then they had literally, I was so pissed off. they had shots where they went to the exact same locations as samsara so they did the anybody who's seen that film they literally went to the fucking the the the abandoned house with all the sand inside door and door frame and frame yeah yeah and so i like i went back to like the shot because i included a little clip in my uh 2012 review 2012 uh best of the year list

And I was like, yeah, this is the same location. So they literally just use these movies as a reference and then not only emulated the style, but literally just went to the same spots, which pissed me off so much. I was like, you, you motherfucker. Just do it. Yeah. So five out of ten for postcard from Earth. Because in some ways, it does its job.

But, yeah, it's carried by the gimmick of the orb. Yeah. Yeah, literally just a gimmick movie. Mm-hmm. It pisses me off. Yeah, I hear. Very frustrating experience and then just underwhelming, especially with the intro and outro being like,

it didn't even seem like Aronovsky directed those. Like, that was way cheesier than anything Derenovsky has ever made. The acting was bad in those sections. Oh, yeah. None of it really aesthetically came together with that stuff. Yeah. Love wins. It's love.

Yeah, yeah, because there's the whole section where it becomes really kind of dower. Yeah, like global warming. And then it like quickly handwaves it like, no, no, but we're skipping to the future where we kind of solve that easy. Everything's cool for the families. We had something in our pocket the whole time. Yeah, yeah. That's right. This weird, like, orb ball thing, like comes floating up and they're like, the orb ball saved everything.

We had an entire planet terraforming device in our pocket. Yeah. And love and capitalism wins. Yeah, that's right. That was the takeaway. It was quite a weird ending. Oh, man. And it's so, it's funny because I, uh, there's some rides in Disney World.

There's two that I can think of. One is, I forget the title of it. It's called like a top the world or like a voyage, but I don't remember what it is. But essentially they strap you into these like suspended almost kind of like swingish seats. like a swing bench seats. And then they lift you up like fucking 40 feet and you're strapped in. And then you see like a huge screen in front of you. And it's curved.

And it's not a sphere in the sense that you can like see directly up. Yeah. But you're getting the same experience. And that was a better film. Because it didn't bullshit and pretend to be something else. And it was just literally like, oh yeah, across the world. And you got what you paid for. and it did its job better.

That sounds crazy, yeah. And that was just a Disney World ride. You know, like you... That was fun. I liked that a lot. Another one I can think of, the fucking Avatar ride at Disney World, that was way more immersive,

way better. It's like you're flying on a fucking, one of the daggins or whatever. You're like the music and the... Yeah. The same air effects, like, oh, you're going through a windy part and then you feel the wind,

and it's like, oh, wow, I really feel like I'm there. Like I'm a Navi. You become one. Yeah. Give you smell a vision. Oh man. My like Disney World tech understanding is super outdate.

I think I last went in the early 2000s. So it's probably got all sorts of craziness. Got to do it. Yeah. Let's do it next year. Hell yeah. Let's plan for it. I'll open a tab.

Okay. Didney Whirl with Alex. And then yeah. So after the sphere, we went to a restaurant called Best Friend, which... Mm, real good. You know, out of every... There's one menu item there that influences my entire opinion of the entire restaurant, basically. The fried rice, the kimchi fried rice there is like unmatched.

I've never had better kimchi fried rice. But when we were leaving, I was looking at other people's tables and every table have that dish on everything. Yeah. And when we ordered it for the table, we had like seven people there. We order it for the table. The waiters like, no, you're going to want two of those. I'm like, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we are. Yeah, yeah. And we had leftovers. We chowed down on those leftovers drunkenly at the end of the day. But yeah, best friend, great restaurant, a little pricey. Get your reservations in advance because it fills up quick. Yeah, it was busy.

Roy Choi, apparently a famous chef. I just believe. There you go. I believe it. Yeah. I would have no idea if they didn't say that. Kimchi fried rice, got to do it. Gotta fucking do it.

Oh yeah, their wings were good too. Mm-hmm. Yeah, everything was great. Yeah, everything. Nothing was bad, I don't think. Nothing was bad, but the kimchi fried rice is like, okay, you could go there. That's what you, yeah. Just get the kimchi fried rice and you wouldn't be spending that much money and you would

have like the best fucking. Mm-hmm. You're nourished. Your taste buds would be. Yep. Yeah, yeah. Fucking gooning. Then, and this is the last thing we did, the last night, we did atomic golf.

So, yes, the competitor to Top Golf, which I thought was worse. I thought it was worse than Top Golf. The actual game part, but their drinks were better there. The drinks were better. Holy shit, I should tell. A top golf on the menu. Oh, yeah. They, it says on the menu, espresso martini, and the options are vodka or tequila.

And I was like, who's ever fucking done a tequila espresso, espresso martini? So wrong. And so I was like, surely, like, did a bartender approve that? Like, is someone confused? But you and Jamie were getting espresso martinis. I was like, okay, well, I've got to figure this shit out. I've got to, so I ordered the tequila one. And it was awful.

It was so bad. Yeah, it was miserable. The vodka ones weren't great either, but like, they were. No, it was drinkable though, whereas I don't know if yours I'd consider drinking. That was the slowest I've ever drank a drink. But I finished it and it was just, that was terrible. Yeah, that's pain. Terrible.

No good. So, yeah, Atomic Golf. same concept all of the images everywhere like are AI generated and really obviously too so you can like select your character avatar I'm like oh look at all these

look at all these weirdly different art styles and like all this glow behind the character and like chef with orb yeah yeah there was like a chef with like a notepad or whatever character and there's just a tiny blue orb like floating out of the nobody I was like what's that but you could be like a dog or a cat and they're all just like the like the most basic very clearly

AI generated character designs so obviously AI yeah yeah and then you look closer at like they have these little ads for I guess their own business just like on the TV screen they would like fade from one to the other and just show like you know happy couple smiling and uh drinking a glass I'm like, this is obviously AI too. Like, their faces are so weird. Their hands were like melding into each other like a Kronenberg film. I'm like, this is a really interesting thing to do for a business that obviously has enough like capital and investment to have that plot of land and, you know, like that's kind of

a funny, dumb, really weird, cheap thing to do. That's the first instance. seen it outside of like TV and movies like in a in a business in like a restaurant bar sports place I think that's hilarious but of course it was gonna happen like if it can save money businesses are gonna do it right of course they don't want to pay artists they don't commission expensive talented artists to put this stuff together they just want to generate off a prompt much cheaper easier and a lot of people probably don't even notice or care yeah they had a fucking they

They had some weird gimmick thing where it's like, oh, at any time you can go down to the main floor and there's like a golf ball cannon. You like... I didn't do it in the end. And then you just press a button and then it shoots the golf ball out. I'm like, okay, there's a lot of power to this thing. Like, there's a lot of force and it just goes out into the driving range. But there's nothing to aim at.

And so like, unlike the actual driving range where you like book a bay and, you know, there's, tracks the ball and you see on your screen and it's like, oh, kill the alien. or just who does the longest drive or whatever. Yeah, yeah, aim for the little vehicle. Yeah, none of that. You're just kind of like, oh, I shot a thing, and if you aim at high, it goes far. If you aim it low, it goes near.

But you're not aiming at anything, so you kind of just like, okay, that's cool. And then you're done after like five minutes, just kind of pointless. Mm-hmm. They should incorporate something into it. Like, I don't know what the hell. Yeah, I really don't feel like I'm missed out by not interacting with that cannon.

Yeah. No, no, I took a little video and it was the, yeah, it was really a dumb gimmick that, you know, looked a little interesting on their fucking Instagram or TikTok or whatever Sands sent me, begging to go there. He's like, no, this is going to be better than Top Golf because they're competing. Okay. But I don't know. The drinks were better.

The drinks were definitely better. Yeah. The staff were very friendly. They had like a lot of, uh, a good like beer selection they had like a craft beer thing which was fun

yeah and it was a little cheaper but we'll see you need some work if you want to compete with top golf honestly yeah yeah yes huge and then yeah

did you do anything so I flew out the next day and then you guys flew out a little later in the day did you wind up doing anything on your last day or only I don't know if I can even leave

the sit on all the daddy Derek related conversations and stuff I was having, managed to get that done. Very fun. Just in time before going to the airport. So, uh, okay. Yeah, I'd forgotten that Daddy Derek lives in Nevada, of course. So he was somewhere within miles, probably.

It's the closest you've ever been. Yeah. Did you get goosebumps? Did your hair stand it? I did. Like the second someone said his name and, yeah, attached it to Nevada. Yeah, it's like, oh shit. Shit, you know, watch out.

Shit just got real, yeah. I was saying we should have like a code word. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Got a possible Derek sighting at 10 o'clock. Yeah, good thing he doesn't in my face. I'll just leave it at that, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was a lot of fun. Glad you came. Glad you best came. It was so much fun. It was awesome. Your brother's super dope. Had some great conversations with him. Yeah, yeah.

It was so much fun. still recovering. Yeah. Yeah. Always underestimate jet lag. Well, next time, next time we do a trip. I hear you, man.

Show up the same day I do, because I give myself, I give myself an extra day at the beginning. And your jet lag's going to fucking need it. You're from the UK. Yeah. It's worth it. It's worth it to have the whole trip is better.

If you give yourself a little buffer period, and some melatonin, which apparently is, Like an illegal drug in the UK. Wait, you have to get it prescribed in the UK. You can't just buy it like everywhere, like in the US. And Canada, you can just buy it over the counter too. Really stupid.

It's a natural chemical in your brain. Mm-hmm. You can't even like kill yourself with it. Like you can't even be like, oh, I'm sad. I want to. You'll like get a headache. It's my understanding. I'm going to look that up.

Yeah, we're progressive in a lot of ways with like food and, drink and stuff, but then there are just some things where we have hangups on over here. So what are we doing this? Like, what is the problem? I'm just, I fact-checked this just in case I didn't want to say that on the podcast, in case that was wrong. There has never been a case reported of anyone dying from too much melatonin or even becoming seriously ill.

It's like, why is that prescription? Yeah, that's so stupid. That's very, you need a license for sleep. It is, yeah. It is pretty much at that level now, man. please, God help. As soon as I got back, I'm in Atlanta right now, I found out that the toothpaste that I usually get, you have to have a prescription for in the States.

So you can buy it off, you can literally buy it off Amazon in Canada. It's a high fluoride toothpaste. And apparently high fluoride toothpaste, you need a prescription in the States. What the fuck? I don't know. Okay, we don't do that. Yeah, what the hell? You can get high fluoride stuff.

Yeah. I'm pissed. That doesn't make any sense. I thought that it was American's whole thing that they had like crazy stuff to food and drink and have it unregulated. I thought the whole thing was freedom. Where's my freedom to have my teeth high fluorided? Give me some healthy teeth. Is that one of those things that are kind of weird about like fluoride?

Is that attached to any? I mean there's some, yeah, there's some conspiracy theories. I'm pretty sure it's in the water supply for a bunch of places in the states though. Uh-huh. Yeah. Like, it is in a lot of places. And, like, statistically, it decreases tooth decay for, like, the population and doesn't have any, like, negative side effects as far as I'm aware.

I don't know, man, there's some crazy rules over there. What was it? Iodize salt and stuff like that. Oh, yeah. So there's stuff I'm hearing. Like, what do you mean? That's crazy. What?

High fructose corn syrup. Every soda is just corn? Everything is corn. Yeah. Just going to excess. of corn. It's funny because you ask an American, they think that that's normal everywhere. They're like, no, because they know that there's like cane sugar coke that exists, but they call it Mexican Coke, because that's the closest country that they import it from. So it'll be like on the

shirt like, oh, Mexican Coca-Cola. It's so crazy that they do this. But in reality, it's crazy that you use high-fructose corn syrup in your country and not like sugar or even like glucose fruit dose. I was meaning to try it, but I just, I couldn't bring myself to buy a full sugar soda. Yeah. You know. Yeah. It's, yeah.

Oh, no, no, no than special. All right. It's time to discuss the epic, uh, what do we call this? Duology. Double feature? Yeah, double feature works. It's a pretty epic one. They're pretty incestuous, too, so they're pretty interlinked.

Yeah, I'm glad we did both. Yeah. It's essential. This was, you know, it was a vengeance-based recommendation for Alex. Yeah, we're in the spite era. Yeah. Making me watch a Boz-Lerman film. But, you know, I think that my movie was a nice, they were nice movies.

I think they were, I think they were less torturous than Moulin Rouge. So. Kind of. Yeah. I'm nice. Well, the one was nicer than the other, in my opinion. Yeah. Which one did you watch first?

I watched, did we settle on the Duffy thing? Or is it just a talking cat? Maybe it's a yeah, Zootropolis situation. Yeah. But yeah, I watched a talking cat first followed shortly. You got to yell. You got to yell. A talking pony?

That's what I watch next. A Pocin' Pony? I feel like you know. I need an espresso martini to be able to whip out that kind of energy. Oh, yeah, it's kind of late for you. I'm talking cat! I watched the pony one first and then the cat one second. Interesting, because I had a little theory about this.

I was a bit worried about this, actually. A game theory? Kind of, my game theory being whichever one you like first, you're probably going to prefer. Oh, yeah. There's a little bit of crossover going on here. Well, my boyfriend wound up liking the cat one better even though that was second, but I mean, Ah, interesting. Okay.

Yeah, there's some bias there. Yeah. I'm, I don't know, I, myself, I'm on team talking cat. Uh-huh. I got to say. But, yeah, this incestuous kind of reuse of a bunch of the same actors and voices and whatnot. There ain't much in it, to be honest. But I think a big advantage Duffy has over pony.

You can just kind of, it's a bit easier to shoot a cat, I feel like. So they could get a little bit closer to it. So get some more varied shots of the cat doing things. They even use like special effects on the cat talking sometimes. That was a choice. I don't think you get that with the pony. They're clearly a little bit more limited with the way you just can shoot a horse, I guess, compared to a cat. Well, I don't think it's, I don't think it's in.

to the concept of a horse. I think it's the fact that they had a... With how this guy makes movies. There's a difference between shooting a horse and shooting an acting horse. That was not an acting horse. They didn't get, they didn't get like a horse that is in movies. They just got, it was just someone's horse. Same for the cat.

Yeah, it was just someone's cat. It was just someone, yeah, there's no professionalism to be found. And the horse was like, it seemed like just kind of tired the whole time like kind of old probably didn't really do much and there was one spot that it was in the whole movie like just in the corral and only on one side of the corral

for like 80% of the film or when it showed up in the film. Yeah and you gotta remind the audience this is what one of one of nine films this director released in 2013 alone. David Ducatine one of the busiest directors clearly if you go on that IMDB there's a hell of a lot of entries

right here yeah they are busy busy busy a real Bayod and Stephen I pulled both of those names from memory this is crazy they're just in there yeah I'm much better with faces the names

you're not going to catch me remembering David de Cottoe was he like French it's a French film I don't know Talking cat, French new wave. Well, why don't we start with a talking cat? The famous one, the more well-known. Yeah, apparently a bunch of people reviewed this a while ago, like John Tron and peeps.

So, like, people know about it. Yeah, and I think just having Eric Roberts in there did boost its profile a little bit. And I think that's one of the main things that edges it out to me. over a talking pony because that that VO is like so funny to me he's very old sounding he he sounds old he sounds like he's two rooms away yeah like recording like in a bathroom I think actually is is literally what he did like I found a piece of trivia about the Eric Roberts inclusion um because I was trying to find like how much he was paid for this because man I bet it was more than deserved.

But yeah, in a 2017 episode of the podcast, Eric Roberts is the fucking man. Eric Roberts, who voiced the talking cat Duffy, said that he recorded his dialogue in the bathroom of, quote, some guy's house as the bathroom had the best acoustics. That's so funny. Yeah. Apparently it took 15 minutes to do his view. Unsurprising, actually. That all that was a definitely a one take best take situation

First take yeah yeah, yeah and and the fact that they like they can't even commit to the way The talking cat is communicated like for the first section of the movie there's no mouth movement or whatever It's just like pure Eric Roberts kind of Yeah, stitched in and then they just decide at a certain point oh no, let's animate the mouth kind of I understand why It's because they the the what the problem they were trying to solve was to have some sort of of differentiating feature so that the audience knew which dialogue was internal and external. So every time he doesn't open his mouth, it's his thoughts. And he's just talking as the narrator essentially. And then when he does open his mouth, he's actually talking to the humans.

Better solution would have been just like, I don't know, add like an echo effect in his thoughts. And then the audience could infer the rest. Because that animation effect, I can't even call it animation. Like, what is that? They're just like a black void, this weird... It looks like something you'd see in a nostalgia critic cut away from like 2010. Yeah, like early nostalgia critic. Yeah, yeah. Like, before he hit his stride, before he got like better special effects. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't know if you can really trust it or believe it, but the budget says a million dollars on IMDB. Sure. Which it. I guess you could, uh, launder a million dollars through this with the two locations like one being a mansion like

whatever and maybe eric robert's got a big one probably a lot of it went to the actors you know uh-huh yeah who i don't know i've seen a lot of like bad straight to video movies and there's like tears of actor mm-hmm i don't know the like the older guy in this movie who's like a computer algorithm genius who's got like Azuma haircut. He's a coder. Yeah. The best coder. He spent like 30 years of his life trying to code one thing.

The technology became outdated for whatever he was working on by the time he was finished with it. Yeah. But the way he was kind of carrying himself, he had a little bit of the screen presence. You know? Yeah. He has something going on, more than I was expecting at least for this tier of movie. Yeah.

Yeah. But you know what? It's just everything else like around this talking cat, like, you kind of mention the the rules, the different ways this cat communicates. And they do try and establish this, this magical rule attached to this cat where it can talk to each character one time, right? By got that right? For some reason.

For some reason. It's limited to whatever one time means. Because that makes the sitcom set up and punchline so much stronger if you have that rule in. It just makes everything hit so much hard. Yeah. With all these various characters who will get one little conversation. You got the, you got the IT dad and his twink son.

Yes. Who is supposed to be related with they're like, they look like different races. I'm glad you said it. Yeah. I don't know, both these films have this thing about like a brother or a sibling rivalry of some kind. Two different writers though. It's like a big part of it. Yeah.

point different writers and I think I think we know which one is more talented as far as like dialogue and jokes are concerned and it ain't the one in talking cat I beg to differ really what you think the jokes the intentional jokes are better in talking cat than pony oh sorry I misinterpreted and thought you said the opposite of what you meant no yeah yeah that's kind of why this one is funnier to me is that there's like in the intention there's really nothing that that works like nothing Whereas I was kind of surprised by how some of the lines in a talking pony, they were like, I don't know, that's kind of a comedic line that's intentionally funny and it was kind of humorous. There's a lot of anti-humor.

Yeah, yeah. But there's not a single one of those in the talking cat to me. No. There's a... I don't think so. The plot of a talking cat is held together by like a huge cheese puff drama. That's right. They're talking my cheese puffs every five minutes.

She's addicted to cheat. Her life is in shambles because her cheese puff budget is just eating up her savings. And even though like when they take it out of the oven and the guy, so, okay, wait, let's try to retrace our steps here. We get the intro. Please. The talking cat says to the audience, I'm going to help humans. I'm, I like to be a cat, but I'm here to help them along to discover their own journey. And then we get the

Sister and Brother character There's two families Uh First we see Tech Dad And uh Twink Son Yeah that's one combo

And Twink's son loves running up and down the stairs And they love showing him running up and down the stairs It happens four times in the first like 15 minutes I think Yeah four times in the first 13 minutes was in my notes Oh man I thought it was going to happen for the rest of the movie I thought it was going to happen for the rest of the movie I thought it would have been like a great drinking game like how many times is he gonna run up and down the stairs it's just like an entire long unbroken shot like okay bye son he like runs up the stairs

that would be a good drinking game with this film actually it's like unnecessary camera movements that are yeah but if you take a shot every time there's one of those you're gonna be like destroyed because they do that a lot style was weird really weird style it's like they kind of knew that they're only two locations it's like we can mix it up but just the camera is moving all the time. That will liven it up. And it's like, this doesn't match like what you're saying. No.

You're trying to show. Not at all. Very funny. Very funny. Yeah. There was one scene where like, you know, all the shitty free played goofy ass soundtrack. There was one shot where I was like, you could just change this to like a more sinister sounding tone and it would be like a horror movie shot.

He's like running around all. Where's Jason? Or what? I don't remember what is fucking. Where's my twink? It's like, yeah, you could do that or there's also that kind of porno acting sort of vibe as well where every scene kind of, I don't know, feels more like a porno that is being built up than...

Yeah, the pool scene was very homoerotic. Very, yeah. That was surprising. That was hilarious. They both stripped. They're like, I'm going to teach you out to swim. And clearly, also not intentional. a lot of unintentional humor here

but it's so homoerotic I'm like okay you can tell who the top is yeah yeah another thing with these films right the establishing shots what is the deal dude loves water oh he loves water more than James Cameron

they kind of stood out to me more in Pony but um yes in cats cats a little bit shorter it's got a bit more of a quick pace you know There's ponies got more to say I mean they're both the same length I think They're both like 90 minutes approximately Yeah there's not much in it

And there's just not much in it full stop to be honest Like as films there's very little going on Like this one doesn't have the like save the rec center type thing this one is more like the Oh the these two families one has the dad who's lost the mum and one is the mom who's lost the dad. And it's like, let's get them together. Yeah.

And then, yeah, whatever their kids are up to to, the little, little drama. They have, it's like super low stakes, like, lowest of the love. Not much conflict, no. Yeah, not enough for a talking cat movie, you know? He's, he's got attitude. He's going around, like, making jokes like Garfield, but he's not doing anything. He doesn't really influence any of their lives in any way until maybe the last scene. Yeah

Like he's like walking around like Oh I gotta help the humans And then he has a conversation with him He's like blah blah blah And they're like what? Yeah he really doesn't have much agency Does he? Because then he winds up getting hit by car

Yeah Spoilers Doesn't die He's fine But he does get hit by car No yeah He gets a little bit of lightly wrapped gauze Around his head

And the car The car was like the villain We never knew who was driving it And we saw shots of it Like earlier in the movie, it was like this sinister like, oh, car man or women. Yeah. And there was this really funny line where I think it was around the time of the car crash, where a character says like, maybe it makes sense for his collar to save him.

Yeah. Like almost like looking at the camera and it's like, what do you mean? Like you, this is your movie. You establish the rules, right? What do you mean? You're like asking the audience. They were saying, because Duffy was. wearing a collar and then they started talking some nonsense about a magic collar but then they

went to the woods and like made a collar out of twigs or something and then that was magic there was some kind of magic healing property yeah i don't know how they got to that conclusion or where they decided they needed to get this twig collar for like that was also rushed oh yeah yeah and uh did you notice the the mother character like leaving in the um and ours with her lines kind of can wrote canloach style yeah bringing that drama to the max yeah yeah some great characters some great performance all round you know what I'm saying yeah in this film they uh the soundtrack was like a lot of it a lot of it sounded like karaoke versions of existing songs like there was definitely like cucaracha yeah more

than that one yeah there was one that sounded like a like a like a What's his name? Motherfucker. God damn it. Frank Sinatra. At the beginning there was like a Frank Sinatra song. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense.

Yeah. It was crazy. Like a distorted, free-to-use, copyright-free version. Yeah. Well, they credited at the end, Big Score Music, which is a website. Yeah. There you go. That you can get.

It's a bunch of cheaply licensed songs. Yeah, loads of weird choices like that, like the opening font being like the Indiana Jones font of some reason. Yeah. That was fun. And like the background behind the Indiana Jones font is like a tilted montage of like cat clips. That seemed like a preset in the editing software. Yeah, did. That seemed like just whatever random editing software they had just had some.

weird preset. Mm-hmm. And every, like, every character's just acting so, so off. Like, this cat's just kind of walking around, like, talking to the audience. And they're like, these characters just keep talking to each other. It's like the first half an hour is basically just characters being like, did you just see a cat? I saw a cat.

Oh, me too. So, I don't know. Is that maybe? Yeah. And then they talk to it. And then they're, like, they act the same the rest of the movie as if they didn't. They're not like that caught off guard by it. No.

It's like really not that big of a deal. Like... No, it doesn't influence anything. It's... For the, for the title to be a talking cat. Yeah. Sorry. A talking cat.

Thank you. For it to be that, like... It really doesn't live up to the title, huh? No. Not really. And then like randomly, like going back to the sibling drama. The, the, the, go in this drama, she's got like this brutal line, which she's like going in on her brother, like, at least I've got direction and purpose.

And I've, I'm a, I'm a coder and I've built this algorithm that's going to make me rich. And it's like, what the fuck does this have to do with the cat? Like, nothing. How does the cat influence this algorithm? No. No, absolutely nothing. She has a laptop that they taped over the Macintosh logo, I guess. and it's just like this huge streak of like three pieces of tape

going from the very top of the back of the laptop to like underneath where it folds and so they tried to make it seem as though it was like a design style of the laptop when I don't know normal people you could see like someone puts a sticker on their laptop you can just put a sticker there if you didn't want the Apple logo and then the coder dad is seen with the exact same laptop

And I was like, okay, well, you're just reusing the same prop. But then at the end of the movie, there's like the biggest plot twist in the world. Both laptops were in frame. I'm like, wow, you had two of the exact same taped Macintosh laptop. Speaking of laptops, the scene where they were scanning clothes with like a book light. Pretending to be a scanner and just all these computer noises and like. Yeah, that was one of, I guess, the through lines. they attempted with the talking cat was he has some line really like I do not like these silly

machines but they can be useful at times beeping machines yeah that's like what all his dialogue is he like says one thing and then does it he was talking about cell phones there right yeah yeah yeah um but man there was some funny-ass moments with the roberts's uh voice acting when they got that nasty looking bowl out with like milk in it and they put me in the milk And this cat is like flaked tuna Yeah they flaked tuna in milk But I don't think it was milk I think it was in water

Oh really is it I think he just had a plate of flaked tuna With like some water And when he brought it out He said he introduced it as like I'll get you some sandwich meat No if you ever say sandwich meat No one's thinking of like chunk tuna

That's not you could sure you can make a tuna salad sandwich or whatever A tuna sandwich When you say sandwich meat you're like I think deli meat Like a slice of ham or something. Why'd they drop it in liquid? I don't know. It looks. Dude loves water.

Have you seen the shots? Have you seen the establishing shots? I'm fucking going around the pool. He's like, he'll look at that pool, it'll be like, oh my god, it's rippling. There's so many establishing shots and none of them have a subject. No. It's just like a tree or like leaves a river. He finds a waterfall.

He's like, he's, he's gooning. Yeah, yeah, he's goon into the waterfalls. But I did like the Eric Rogers V-O when he was eating that watery tuna He sat there going Oh ha ha ha yeah That's what I'm there for

Yeah Yeah a lot of reused shots The shot of the Lots of shots of water were reused There was one establishing shot The Sunset Which was just a still image Like a PNG file

But they added a Ken Burns zoom they did that twice the exact same one that was fun I like that one did you like the the scene with the phone call where you only hear one side of the phone call and it's mostly just a girl going

I know I know I know I know I know I know I know she says it a lot that was crazy I felt like the longest scene I don't forever

oh yeah there's a lot of like really awkwardly long scenes. Like that scanning with the light thing. It's like that went on for so long. And there's some, you can see them just keep a take of him like he'll drop the shirt on the wrong. Like it'll just like fly off the couch. He's like, wait,

he has to like pick it up. I'm like, you already have a lot of shots. You didn't have to keep that one. Uh-huh. You didn't have. Too much coverage. Yeah. We wouldn't have been confused about how.

he got up the stairs. You don't have to show him going all the way up the stairs every time. And then down. I think they were just proud that they did it and they want to show it, you know? It's a oneer. Flexing the oneer. Yeah. But please, please tell me

what, like going back to like the description of the film, a sassy feline helps a family resolve its problems. What? How? I don't know. What did it help with? I can't remember any moment. actually like impacted any of this. No. It's just kind of there.

It's like that what's that Simpsons clip? Like I must go. But you didn't do anything. Yeah, yeah. It's basically this. Yeah, it's like the cat is like tertiary even though it is the title of the film. That kind of makes it even funny. It's the selling point.

Yeah, it's the whole point of the film. I mean nobody would be watching it otherwise, so I mean, props. They scammed us all. Yeah. I'm here for it. This was awesome. I was there for it. I like what it was bringing.

I like the energy from these actors. The weird like moments of homerotic tension. Yeah. I'm living for this. 2013, even though it feels like it was made in like 2005. Yeah, I don't know. I've got on YouTube for free. There was some very noted.

Very notable day for night shots where they just like gave everything a blue tint and pretended it was night time. I was like, oh. Yeah. What's it like what do you think like realistically if you had to estimate how many days they shot this for? Uh, maybe? Seven or two? Yeah, I'm thinking a week. Yeah, that seems reasonable.

And even then that's generous. Yeah. Yeah, there really ain't much going on here. Very. efficient filmmakers. Extremely. I feel like, yeah, what's their secret? You know, if anybody listening, I know we got a lot of aspiring filmmakers in the audience,

just watch this. Anybody can make a movie. What's stopping you? Yeah, anyone can make a talk of it. David, David de Cato is making movies. Making all the movies, clearly. Every movie. The majority of movies are made by this guy.

He's made most movies. Yeah, lots, uh, when the movie ended, they had this weird montage of just like, okay, we're doing like shots of the actors, right? We're going to, we're going to include five different shots of each actor with the title. Almost like a sitcom or something. Yeah. Yeah, very weird. But the first shot they included was just clearly like an outtake or just like in between shots of the tech dad sitting down on the car couch. And he's like, vroom, vroom, beep, beep.

That was the only one of those with audio in it. I'm like, wow, you found that, you found that really special and poignant. And it was. Yeah, I'd give them that. Included it. And it was a very magical, very magical little inclusion at the end of the film. It really tied everything together. How magical is it that these are just free on YouTube as well?

Oh, hell yeah. That's why, that's why when I was looking these up, I'm like, I got to do this now. Because sometimes the licensing expires and then it removes. I'm like, these are free on YouTube now. We got to take this opportunity. And this is kind of the just missed it, but the 10 year celebration. Like a decade of these films. Yeah, pretty much.

They're in the world. Mm-hmm. Yeah, the cheese. So, tech dad winds up meeting the mom from the other family because he decides to go for a walk and gets lost. Like, I guess their houses are pretty far apart, but like he gets lost essentially in his own neighborhood and dehydrates because he forgot to bring water and he's like dying. And so he just knocks on a random door. He's like, I didn't bring water and then they meet and then they like each other because they like they like the same movies.

Oh yeah. And they try and do a little bit. They do this in both movies as well, having like a rich character. and a poor character, different parts of town or something. And it's like, oh, these two worlds coming together and seeing what the other one's all about. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah.

So the, the cheese, part of the cheese puff drama, there's many cheese puffs. She's always making cheese puffs. They're the most important thing in the world to her. And somehow on the second visit, he comes over and he like knocks it over. He's like, I don't remember how he did that. The cheese puffs are more consequential than the talking can. True. It was a huge cheese puff drama.

She like pulls it out of the oven with no gloves. Yeah. And then he tries to grab it and then he's like, oh, it's hot and then drops it. And even though the entire thing was covered and it just falls, it doesn't look like it flips over or anything. No. Like it just falls on the floor And it never shows it after We're just supposed to like imagine

That they're ruined somehow I don't know why they would be Like you just you drop it It's on the floor It's covered They'd be fine I don't know what they were implying Happened to the cheese puffs

Yeah it's like they show you the wrong things Like the focus is just on some random shit That doesn't relate to anything Yeah like in the script You know drops the cheese puffs And then they try to film it They're like that doesn't work So let's just not

show. Yeah, that's too hard. That's going to take too much effort. Let's just move on. We don't have the budget to like have the cheese puffs on the floor. These cheese puffs are covered because there's none in there. We maxed out the cheese puff budget in the earlier scenes. Let's just kind of get an enjoyment from having this like retired pensioner Coda guy like as like a main character in this talking cat movie. It's like a funny guy. Such like a specific demographic, yeah.

But yeah, I guess maybe they really connected with this guy and his trendy haircut. Yeah. What's your rating? You know what this one? I'm giving this one the 10 out of 10. Awesome. This is exactly what I want for a talking, I want every talking cat movie to have nothing to do with the talking cat, basically. I think that's genius, it's subversive to have it be a family drama actually at the end of it.

Cheese puff drama. A cheese puff drama. I've never seen that before. It's showing me heights and lows that I never even thought possible. Yeah. 10 out of 10. Okay. Thank you, Duffy.

I'm giving this one a 1. At a 10. Okay. It was funny. Not quite there for me. Not quite there. No. Yeah.

All right. All right. Well, luckily you got a few options for this filmmaker from this year alone, let alone talk. animal movies. Yeah, yeah. Like you could do like months of episodes just on this guy. We could recommend two films a week every two films every episode from this guy. We would never get through his filmography. We would die before it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We would literally never get through it. I think it's like 180 credits. 180 direct directing credits.

Busy, busy David, you're being busy over there. Busy boy. Busy body, busy. busy boy. All right. Now it's time to talk about a talking pony. I. What differentiates this one? What differentiates this one? I think it's more unique.

You think it's more unique. But this is where you're biased though, like a talking pony that says a bunch of puns. It's like it's made for you. Well, here's, here's what. What makes it unique is that the establishing shots make up probably 60% of the film. Yeah, they go real experimental with it this time. Oh yeah. Really trying to find a voice with this one.

Dude loves water. He loves leaves, he's like a real Terrence Malick. They should have gotten him to do the show at the sphere. Really. Yeah. Yeah, so this is a different direction, different writer. Yeah. What I like about this film is it subverts your expectations.

It's called a talking pony, but it's not even a pony. It's a horse. Yeah, I didn't even, it's not even a pony. It's not even a pony. And there is no talking pony for at least the first 30 minutes. Yeah, just in a dream, right? Just like the only. Yeah, well, I mean, it was, yeah, she was like, it wasn't even a real dream.

was like looking at the pony at the beginning and then someone else said something and it was just somebody behind her. She just has like terrible sense of audio direction. So like the pony didn't even start talking until she got bumped on the head by a magic horseshoe that was just at the barn. Yeah. And this one was different rules. It wasn't a one time per person rule set anymore.

It was just as long as you were attacked with the horseshoe, the magic horseshoe. You had to get knocked out. You couldn't get you couldn't just get attacked or booped with it you had to have like actual brain damage In order to make this work and I was saying like as a joke as soon as the rules were happening I'm like she should just go around like bunk and other people like no you you got to know the ponies it sounds like and then that actually happens she knocks out with somebody else she tries a couple times you're like oh that hurt then she does it harder and then and kind of kind of exactly like a talking cat I'm struggling to really relate the talking pony bit to the overall plot of like a

a rich businessman trying to build a mall in like a quaint little farm in the middle of nowhere. Please, please remind me if I'm forgetting how the talking pony like plays into that. Um, that, not just a talking pony, a joking pony. Yeah. A puny, love those puns. A puny. A talking puny. Yeah, I really can't

No link none I really can't think of anything Yeah, how they relate No well because it I mean What is introduced as like the villains Just turn out not to even really be the villains And there were no villains Yeah and this is where the

This is where the talking blank blur is getting stuck in my head because Yeah going back to the incestuous nature You notice that the mother characters played by the mother from a talking cat as well. It's probably the same universe. So she, like she talks about having a previous family in this one.

So maybe. True. Maybe it's like the same universe. Yeah. The talking cat family didn't work out very well. It didn't last very long. How does that expect? The horse is voiced by the,

the coder dad. Oh, is it? The heck. Yeah, yeah. That's funny. Yeah. As soon as you started talking, I put that together. So then that's also confusing.

So what does that mean as far as the universe building is concerned? He's become a horse? Maybe. Maybe that's part of that there is magic. Maybe he died and the spirit reincarnated as the horse. Yeah. Yeah. And so, yeah.

So basically you got a family on a ranch, farm, whatever. large plot of land with home and a corral with a horse in it that only ever stays there and only ever stays in one specific corner of the corral and just kind of like doesn't really emote much, doesn't move much, just stands there. She doesn't really do anything, yeah. No, just kind of just stands there forever. And the daughter character, she loves the horse, a little too much. and she has two brothers, their stepbrothers.

So she's adopted. Her dad died or something. Yeah, why was that necessary to mention? Why did she have to be a step sister, I guess? I don't know. Right. Yeah. Another sibling rivalry thing.

They used it as justification to do never-ending sleep pranks on her. So, yeah. It starts out. Oh, yeah, no. did have a dream. What was the dream? Was the dream of the talking horse? The dream was like the opening of the movie, right? Was the horse talking in the dream? I have, yeah, I'm pretty sure it says something. I don't remember. I don't, does it really matter? So she, yeah, she's in a dream. Then she wakes up and the brothers are like, they tickle her face and then it's like, oh,

there was shaving cream in your hand. She like gets it all over her face. She's like, uh. But multiple times they tell her to the bed. Yeah, that one was funny. So at the beginning of the film, in the first sleep prank, you'll notice that she ever so slightly, like the, if she's laying down, it's like her bottom left foot where the post is, the bed post is. She like nudges it ever so slightly.

And it looks like it's going to fall off, like the railing from to freedom, basically. I'm like, okay, that's not structurally attacked at all. That's literally just sitting there. and if you like if you touch it it's going to fall off and you know they don't draw any attention to it it's you're not supposed to notice it but then later in one of the sleeping pranks when they tie

it's like okay in the script they tie her foot to the bedpost she gets out of bed and then the bedpost that her foot is tied to is the one that would have been like at her head but the rope isn't that long so it doesn't make sense that she because she would have had to have been sleeping upside down which she wasn't So she, like, you know, within a cut, you know, they tie it to her foot. And then she's like, oh, I fell in a bed, which could seriously injure or kill someone.

That's like a mean, that's not even a prank at that point. But then I realized, oh, they probably tied it to that bedpost because the one near her feet would just fall off. As shown earlier, it is not structurally intact. So that was a fun little discovery of just why that choice was made. Well, what about the ongoing theme of like, you know, speaking of like gambling and poker? Like this weird like maths thing. Hell yeah. Like that was this ongoing thing with those brothers, right?

Where they're like trying to trick each other out of money. Yeah. That's just an ongoing thing with the film. The two brothers are like little couple chads or whatever. And they want to be professional posers, as they say. And that's one of the jokes is like, they like pose it. They think they're going to be models. They're like, check this one out.

It's like a Zoolander or whatever. Yeah. Just not as well realized. That was like an actual good joke. Yeah. That was like, oh my, my, you've actually like written like a double entendre. It's kind of funny. And then the horse has to come in like two seconds after and like overexplained the joke and kind of ruin it.

Even better. Even better. So these two brother characters, their entire purpose in light, There's like not much going on in the lives of any of these characters. So the daughter just like brushes the horse all day and gets prank. Yeah, prank in her sleep. Oh my God,

that shot of the clown makeup where she like looks at the camera and goes like, that was a, that was an amazing shot. That was a good show. That prank was incredible. So she does nothing all day. The two brothers just kind of like waltz around the ranch or whatever. And I guess they're,

they constantly carry like just so much cash on them. they got wads yeah and they like 17 as well yeah they instigate bets with people and mostly the sister and they say things like

if you can guess and I'm thinking of a number in my head between one to ten if you can guess it in three tries then I'll give you ten dollars but you give me ten dollars or whatever like so they do a bet and then she you know figures it out and he's like shucks you got me there

and he just keep giving her money over the course of the film and they have all these stupid fucking games and these stupid fucking rules and they do this with other characters too so okay there's the mother is wants to sell the ranch because otherwise the bank's gonna take it yeah that's the save the rec center plot yeah yeah so they're poor and then in comes mr. beetle a rich man who's going to buy the land and he He's driving there with his son. They almost hit a deer, but the deer's invisible, I guess, because they'd show out the front

of the vehicle. They didn't have to do that. They could have just cut away. They show out the front of the vehicle. It's not there. And they pretend like they almost hit a deer. I don't know. An invisible deer they almost hit.

His son is like just really awkward looking in a really nice suit. And they show up. And the son and the woman's daughter. I guess are like kind of having this Romeo and Juliet situation, which they even say is that. Like they reference Romeo and Juliet. Yeah, and they use a bunch of names from Romeo and Juliet, don't they? Yeah. Like some of the characters.

Horatio. Straight up. Yeah. Is that horse's name. And so the entire film takes place on this ranch and it's essentially just the longest property showing ever. And that's mostly what happens. And then in the meantime, girls getting knocked out

and tries to knock out the dude and then the talking horse, she's trying to convince people. And you know the whole thing where she's like, no, look, everybody, a talking horse. And then it cuts to the horse and the horse is talking, but then she's like, you know, cuts back to the family.

They're like, what? Is something supposed to be happening right now? which makes it extra funny because in the in universe, they all paused for like a huge amount of time, in the amount of time that the horse was talking. They all paused and were just kind of like standing there while the horse didn't say anything. It's like the horse never says anything funny,

which does kind of add to the humor. Oh yeah, it's great. Waiting for the horse to say some just annoying shit that just doesn't add anything. Yeah. According to her, he's doing stand-up, she said. The horse is doing. stand up.

They're like, okay. And then the mother, like, the mother goes away with, like, the Mr. Beetle who wants to, like, buy the land or whatever. She has a conversation with him where she flat out says, like, that her daughter's gone crazy, and it's probably because they're selling the farm. And then he's like, wait, do you, okay, I guess you don't want to sell it. She's like, no, I do. But the entire time, she's just kind of left her daughter alone.

Like, she's not going over there being like, is everything okay? Like, you're crazy. Like, did you... The daughter literally got knocked unconscious, by the way. Here's a fucking helpful, life-saving tip. If you ever get a head injury that makes you go unconscious, go to the fucking hospital. You cannot not go to the hospital.

Because even if you feel fine and conscious and lucid, you could be having internal brain bleeding or injuries that will kill you if you don't go to the hospital. That's literally how Liam Neeson's wife died. She had, like, a small, like, bump on her head. you're like skiing like on the fucking bunny hill or whatever she thought she was fine and then she died so everybody take that advice seriously

these characters they just you know they just knock each other out willy-nilly it's fine it's part of the world building like is essential to everything working because them all getting head injuries I will say that there was a there was a moment where the horse spoke to the audience and said don't try this at home kids and I kind of realized they had to do it

You shouldn't have, you, no, I mean, that does nothing, though. Like, this film is probably a lot more unethical if you're trying to show it to kids. Like, thankfully, no kids have seen this probably. But you don't want to create any kind of narrative where a kid can watch something and go, like, oh, I just got to knock myself out with a horses. And then I'll be able to talk to horses. Yeah, that's really stupid. It doesn't matter if you say, if you just say, don't do this at home, kids. That does nothing.

Don't show it. That's a bad thing to be showing kids. It's like, so in that sense, a talking cat is a bit more ethical in terms of media for children. Especially when a lot of people like do have horseshoes, like hanging up and in the house, there's often like a superstitious like item that people have. Yeah, and I mean, if a kid's going to watch this, they're probably going to be like a little horse girl or whatever. Like I don't know horses and like on a farm or something that could have access to that. Anyway, so that's probably, that was probably a bad idea.

they they keep trying to negotiate the terms of selling the house meanwhile the son that mr beetle brought is just like trying to get laid and she's horse girl's like he's talking it's real and he's like i believe you no you don't you just want to get laid he clearly doesn't do anything yeah he's just a little horny horny fucker and so So at some point, Mr. Beetle hurts his back out of nowhere. That was funny. The way that was written. Oh, the sound design was great.

Yeah, a combination of the line as well, whereas... What do you say? There's nothing. I repeat, nothing wrong with me. Oh, my back. And it's all like timed in that kind of really awkward way. And then, yeah, the sound effect it plays when he cricks his back. It sounds like he like shit himself.

There's like a duck quacking. There's like poop noise and slide whistle and like muted trumpet. There's a bunch of like weird cartoony sound effects just like shoved in randomly. Oh yeah. There's literally the ww-w-whi-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-er. Yeah, like Price is right sound effects. Yeah, yeah. Whenever, whenever the two brothers who are completely instigating all of these bets but lose every time, whenever they lose and they get tricked,

They're like, oh, shuck, you got me. What I love about them, okay, I'll get back to this in a second. We'll continue talking about the broken bag. So he brought in his briefcase that you would assume is filled with, like, all the documents that you need to sign, maybe some cash, I don't know. The briefcase is mostly his back pills. He opens it up, just like, most of the volume of the case is his back pills. And then she's like, she has that, this was so weird. She has this conversation with him where it seems like the goal of the conversation, like from the perspective of the film, is to be like anti-medicine, like anti-medical professionals.

She's like, what? He's like, no, the pills help me for my doctor. She's like, those don't do anything. But she's a massage therapist, which is like not a real doctorate, I don't think. Like, not a real doctor. She's a massage therapist. And she's like, no, I'm going to make you a sports. special tea never tells him what's in it that's right she hides probably aged urine or something

yeah uh and he's like see it makes you breathe better he's like oh man all I needed to do was breathe and now my back feels great she's like yeah nasal passages starting to open up nice yes yes exactly that's what okay I was wondering exactly where that was I was trying to trace where in the film that was yeah yeah I can actually breathe she literally has a line where she's like what if your doctors told you that living was unhealthy would you just not live like that was literally like that's what she said I was like what the fuck is this like some just anti-medical they try to like characterize him by he's a bit of like a hypochondriac and they're trying to play up the like city guy versus the small town last type thing

but yeah it manifests with some weird stuff he had a funny line that I know it down just what did you just do woman and she like gives him some meds just like the ankles that these writers and the director like brings out of this is just like bravo you know yeah feel like i got a i got a clap because it's like where are you even like getting this like what part of like when you're mapping out the story of this film when you put yeah a talking pony that's the thesis where do we go from there i know yeah businessman who's like like a hypochondriac. It's like, what the, what the, what the, okay.

I'm here for it, but. Massage therapist. Yeah. And these, the two Chad brothers are so funny. I wrote down. Yeah, we've got to go back to them. Yeah, okay, we're going back to them. There's, I love this film.

It's so good. Yeah, they're iconic. His brothers. One of them, his acting, I'm sure you have to have seen this. You know that fucking gay porn meme where somebody posted on YouTube without the porn? and the guy's like, oh shit, I'm sorry, sorry for what? My dad taught us not to be afraid of our dicks. The disposition, the way that the blonde Chad brother acts is identical to that character, the bald guy in that gate porn thing.

So I mean by the pornoe field. Oh, hell yeah. So much of this. Literally acts the exact same. Also, fun fact, if you look at the poster on IMDB, Talking Pony. Yeah, I'm on it. Everybody is in the poster except that guy. Literally, every character that ever appeared in the film, including the horse, is on the poster

except that one guy, like, they couldn't figure out how to fit him or something, or like, they didn't have a good photo, they forgot to get a photo of him. Like, what the fuck? Like, literally, he's just not in the poster. Could you imagine being that guy? It's not, it's not just like, oh, I didn't get on the poster. It's everybody else in the entire film. The only one got on the poster except me.

Even the horseshoes on the poster. Man, and he's like with a standout. Oh, he's great. I can actually think of a scene where the horse actually does something to do of like what's happening. And it is the the card scene. They're like, hey, I'm going to play a game. He can't possibly cheat at cards.

Yeah, and then the horse like, watch. is in the background just revealing what the cards are, I guess. So the horse does do something more than the cat, I guess. Yeah. Well, eventually, yeah. So, yeah, they have the cards and they lose at that, obviously, because the horse is just telling her what cards are there, because the horse can see the cards.

And the horse is familiar with cards. He's like, he knows like spades. That's right, yeah. Like he said spades. I'm like, he understands what the symbol. is and how to communicate. Could have done with him in the casino. Yeah.

A little car counting pony in the background. I was there. Yeah. The, so I wrote down one of these because it was so fucking dumb. So the, uh, Mr. Beatles son, the awkward kid in the, uh, fucking business suit over dressed, a horny guy that's trying to get in the girl's pants. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So they try to do a game with him. And then he's like, I bet you, however many dollars, that you are not here. What do you mean? Existential. And so he starts asking questions. He's like, well, you're not in Mexico, are you? They're like, no.

He's like, well, you're not in Chicago, are you? Like, no, you're not. We're not. He's like, so you must be somewhere else. They're like, yeah, we must be somewhere else. And he's like, well, if you're somewhere else, then you couldn't be here because you're somewhere else. And then they're like, you got me.

And just give them more cash. And it's so funny. Because the way that these characters work, they're like these Chad scumbags trying to like manipulate and like prank and like doing these dangerous fucking things. And like just like, it's like they're the scammers. But you only ever see money come out of their pocket and give it to someone else. And they don't try to dispute it.

Like even that one where it's like that's the most bullshit thing that anybody could possibly say. Even then they're like, you got me good. And just they're very. They got honor. They're honor. They're honorable Chad children. And that's all they do with their time. And they have literally nothing else going on in their lives.

That's all there is to their care. I don't know what their goals are. True. Yeah. That's all they do. That's literally all they do. Yeah. Like why they do.

even there outside of that. I don't know. I actually have no idea. It seems like a lot of what this film is is just like struggling to find ways to fill up time. I think maybe they filmed the entire plot and then realized like, oh shit, this isn't even feature length. It must be something like that. This is like under 40 minutes and then they just filled the rest with like shots of a waterfall. Establishing shots. Yeah, yeah.

And like the dam with the two logs. I love to that scene where the, the girl is like riding the horse. one of the few times to see the horse light move. They do it for not only an excruciatingly long amount of time. There are like three songs that they play. Kind of interjecting one, like, it's like 30 seconds of like a random country song. Just like awkwardly spliced in this riding montage. And it's not, it's not like edited in smooth.

No. It's not like time with the cut or anything. Very bright. Yeah, there's just like an awkward like crossfade like just suddenly. and it like makes you jump out your skin. Yeah. You're not expecting it. And then, and then again, it just like ends randomly and just shifts back into the,

the like stock music that's been playing. Yeah. Yeah. That's excruciating. And then when the, like, as soon as the, the, like, two times in the movie where the horse manages to get to the other side of the corral, the camera man's like, ooh, I'll follow her. But it's like these filming with like one arm and like a peg leg.

That was like way more. That was like more shaky cam than a fucking Paul Greengrass film. Like, what the hell was going on? That was weird. Because that wasn't in the talking cat. No. This weird handheld craziness. It was in there a couple times.

They couldn't fit a dolly there. Yeah. No steady cam, that's for sure. It was shocking. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was wild. And then the horse, you know, it sounded like,

this sounded less like a bathroom recording and more like a Skype long distance. recording like it was particularly compressed low bit rate audio yeah it was and there's a particularly good moment of VO from the horse when um it was in one of the scenes where they are purposefully inflicting head injuries in order to try and speak to the horse um and the the horse like he's got a line where he screams like what about now and like the the mic like really peaks and it's clearly way too close. It's like, this is nice.

Hell yeah. There's a part where like one of his lines is like just abruptly cut out. Like he was going to say more. Yeah, yeah. But then they pretended it was the end of a sentence. I wrote that one down. We'll get to the pale. Slash him.

And then that was it. And then they, they, much like a talking cat, they just kind of impose these weird rules with the magic. but the talking cat, the magical necklace, like he had an internal dialogue before. He seemed like he knew, he was aware of some of these rules. Or maybe he just chose it. Maybe he's like, I only want to talk to one. He's just like, sorry, that's the rules.

He has like a line like that, yeah. Yeah. In this film, I guess like 20 minutes before the end of the movie or something, the horse is like, the magic is finite. Well, the horse didn't even know about the magic horse shoe before. Like they inferred. it like oh it must have been the magic in the horseshoe but then after like two people get bonked he's like i don't know it's probably gonna run out you probably can't do it to everybody actually

yeah how do you know this they just decided that yeah yeah yeah they're just making it up as they go along yeah it just reminded me with the with the brothers and the little tricksy games they'd be playing that whole that scene with the you give me two tens for a five the classic That triggered this old-ass memory I have where when I worked in retail, I had like a scammer, like, try and do that to me. Oh, really? Where, yeah, it's like a common thing, apparently where at like peak times when things are busiest, some people were like getting cues and try and like fluster the person at the cashier and try and stress them out specifically at busy times. And yeah, he was like doing all that. Like the most tired looking cashier.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, yeah, I'll give you two turns for the 20. And they're like just trying to fluster you. And you like tried it on me. I was like handing this cash, holding this cash. I was like, man, I'm just going to get my supervisor. And then you're like, stressfully kind of ran off. Yeah.

He should have given you super weed before. Oh, I would, I would have given them everything. You'd give him everything in the register. Yeah. All right. I'll give you 10. You give me 100. Yeah.

I give you one, one coin, one pound coin. You give me all those notes. Okay. Yeah. So I so in the credits for this film much like a talk a talking cat They they they credit big score music and it is a website where you can find Music and I'm hoping I'm hoping that somebody can find like the exact same songs from this movie If they're still available on the website and I you know who I don't know if they're free

download or how much it would to license because I believe that there's like an even funnier edit of this movie where if you have if you have the existing music from this film you can take all of the scenes where the horse is talking and then just replace it with nothing you can edit out the horse talking and then you get the girl going like look everybody he's doing stand-up and then just like 10 second shot of the horse and like silence and the music's still going and like just and then they go back like what, she's not saying anything. I would love to see that perspective.

I would love to see that. Yeah. That's an untapped market right there. It's like the talking animal movie, but like the audience never hears it either. There's a whole fan cut potential. Yeah. It's like the real cut. Yeah.

The head injury cut. Yes. It's like, yeah, what's actually happening. Yeah, yeah. And still keep the same title. Yeah. Yeah, we never got the talking pony in this one either. It was just a talking horse.

No. It's crazy, like, why didn't they just use like Incompetac, you know? What is that? Like this, all, every single like one of those YouTube songs that you hear, like the, they're from Incompetac. It's just like a free, yeah, like a free place to get songs for YouTube videos that has been around for like decades now, I think. Um, much higher quality then whatever they're paying for this stuff.

That's probably a license that only exists on YouTube there. I don't know if you could... Potentially, yeah. And I know that these people, they knew that they were like pushing for like a theatrical release, right? Like IMAX. They want to sell DVDs at least. They were planning on putting this in the fucking sphere. They were like this, I heard that this thing was going to get built someday.

And we got the perfect fucking film. See, I would love it. If they played this film at the sphere. They just play like meme shit, yeah, in the sphere. I love this movie for a lot of the same reasons. I love Agro Drift. is I would love to watch this in a crowd and every time it goes back

I would too to the exact same establishing shots where nothing has happened really and the talking pony hasn't even shown up until like 30 minutes through the minute but he doesn't start talking and then it's mostly inconsequential and just nothing happens

and it's just like a really long property showing and a bunch of little chads tricking each other and bad jokes I would love to see that in a crowd I would love to see that in a crowd It would be a great Like drunk people movie And you get to like

You get to see who the survivors are in the crowd And who was not brave enough To To experience art In its truest form I had some cowards at my last Breen showing Ah

Boo And there were some cowards At the Agra Drift showing too Oh yes Some very loud cowards They made their presence known. Yeah, yeah. What is this? But that added to the experience. Worst movie at Tiff. Yeah, yeah.

Stomping out of the fucking theater. Bye-bye. You made my experience better. True. So yeah, basically the plot gets wrapped up by, I guess they believe her by the end of it, and they're like, this ranch is special. Even though they said it was the horseshoe, not the ranch, but, you know, this ranch is special. we're going to turn it into an adventure ranch and you can make your famous lasagna and serve your, like, I don't know, she'll sell her like aged urine tea or whatever the fuck she gave them. And she's like, yay, I get to be a manager and keep the ranch.

So much like the postcard from Earth, love and capitalism wins in the end. And talking ponies, that is essential too. Yeah. That helps. Yeah, we got a couple, we got a couple horse whinny laughs where the guy was like, Hey! Or what, I don't know, well, I could do that. And all I was thinking is like, well, you could just record a real horse whinny.

Yeah, they already had him in the booth, though. They already paid him, you know. That's a noise that you can make, you don't have to get hit over the head to you hear that noise. I will give that to the whole. voice actor, probably better than Eric Roberts. Yeah. But that does give the edge to the talking cat to me as far as like the humor of whenever it speaks. Whenever the pony slash horse is speaking, it's just like, shut up, man.

Yeah. He was like, there was a point in the movie. She was like, I forget what she said to him. She was like, no, just stop talking. Like, go over there. He's like, okay. I'm like, you're going to fucking take that? Yeah.

bro. He's being such a pushover. This pony is a pushover, yeah. Yeah. He looked tired. Oh, he looked so tired. I felt sorry for that guy. The whole movie was just the most tired horse that's not an actor and didn't do anything and

then just like walked from one end of the corral to the other twice. Yeah. So why are you looking at me? Why are you filming me? Yeah. Can I sleep now? Basically the vibe. And yeah, it's, uh, yeah, it's, uh, it all worked out.

it did work out in the end just like roman and julia it worked out for oh yes it was a very shakespearean type story another thing in the uh credits it advertised a website it advertised fun family features dot com and i went there and uh i saw that in the opening i noted that down no one's paying for the domain anymore so shocker there was a there was an archive on internet archive and it was just more films from David de Cateau basically just his catalog being displayed there but has he made anything recently

he doesn't believe in websites anymore no he's got MDB that's all he needs oh you know it's funny his his his uh IMDB profile picture I don't remember I think this is like 2008 or whatever

there was like some sort of like attemptedly viral thing there's no hate thing yeah I think it might have had to do with like gay rights or something Like there was like a Proposition 8 I think yeah it was probably prop 8 Trying to be passed Which was like a gay marriage thing Yeah yeah

But you look at whenever I see the profile photo Just the way that it looks on his head It looks like I just kept reading it as no ho ho ho Because it looks like two O's And I was like no ho ho and he's got tape over his mouth And he's like Man you still going strong

This year already he's made three Three movies already in 2024 Million dollar lethal listing That's a title We're in April He's a You know

Can't self him Think of it this way If every film you make Has some Sort of passive income That you continue to receive Paychecks for For the rest of your life

And let's say it's on like To be or like maybe on YouTube or like, you know, anywhere. Let's do the math. If you make $10 off of each of these films per year. He's got 181. Right? 181 direct credits.

Yeah. So if they're making as little as $10 a year each, then, what, he's getting $2,000 a year? A year? We have to assume it's probably more than that. Like, he's probably doing pretty well. It must be. It must be right. He's continuing to do it.

It's his job. Someone must be funding it. This certainly isn't his like side gig, I should hope. You never know actually. Yeah, you do never know. He could be, he could be an Uber driver. True. He could be doing a couple things.

True. Damn. That's a lot. 180 films in like 40 years, basically. It's a lot. It's a little bit silly. Yeah. Fun character. Fun character. I wonder what's the highest rated film.

It must be a talking cat, right? They do, I'm very curious about a Santa's summer house because that the animal and that is a corgi. So I feel like oh what the fuck Santa's summer house. It's not called a talking corgi there. It's just Santa's summer house. It's from the same year. There's no exclamation mark question mark exclamation. It's the same year. like the poster is like the same style oh my god like the same like bored even after question time it's your turn to recommend you it's a different writer as well we could continue the street no I've already got my revenge in mind yeah it wouldn't really be revenge if we if you just yeah that'd be too much of a treat it would be too much of a treat in the in the spike yeah my My vengeance recommendation was a treat. Well, not if you go by my rating for a talking pony.

Oh, no. You know what? This one's getting a one out of ten, but with a like. Oh, you liked it though. You liked it, though. You liked it, though. You liked it, though. This one is a one out of ten with a like.

Okay. You can interpret that however you feel like. Like, totally close. All right. I'm giving a talking pony! Easy 10 10 out of 10 So we're completely inverse right here right now

Yeah This is the most discrepancy we've ever had In a single episode between our rating This is the one that's As far as you could possibly get In an episode Oh man But you know like we talked about

The Talking Pony one for a good while Despite Despite Despite 60% of the movie being establishing shots, there was, it was a very densely packed film with a lot of things to appreciate, a lot of details, just, you know, a lot, it's got a lot going for it. I would buy the Blu-ray. Let's be real though.

It's those iconic brothers. It's the brothers. The brothers. They will do it. They really are elevated. I mean, they were in it. They were part of the movie. I liked it.

I'm happy for you. I'm glad you found this gem, this diamond in the rough. Yeah, I don't know how the fuck I found it, but, you know, made it onto my watch list at some point. So I MDB is good at sometimes, yeah. Yeah. And they were both free on YouTube. In HD.

Yeah, they were like official uploads. It wasn't any. Yeah. Shady stuff. Didn't even have to pirate it. Yeah. All right, question time. Okay, let's do a couple questions here from the Suddornikers community.

Head over to the suggestion thread over on the subreddit. Just like Zodja did, if you want to leave questions for future episodes. Are you guys excited about the Matrix 5? Yeah, man. In what way? I guess there's a recent announcement, Drew Goddard is attached to, I guess, carry on the quote unquote legacy. I don't know, I don't care. It's just another one of this franchise.

Just let it die. I'll probably see it because I don't know. I saw four and that was something. I'm actually more interested that the Wichowski's are not involved kind of because I mean. I'm unsurprised. Yeah. Yeah, I'm unsurprised as well. And a weird name, I guess.

Yeah, director of the cabin in the woods and bad times at El Royale and that's it. And he's produced a bunch of shit too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So interesting, but it's just like, I don't know, the matrix is kind of like back to the future in my memory. So I just leave it.

It's fine. They tried it. You know, I'm kind of, I'm curious about it and, you know, I'll react to the trailer. I'll probably watch the movie. Mm-hmm. I'm just curious what my, my, my. I really want to know if he's able to capture the original trilogy in a better way than the fourth movie did.

Yeah. Because that's on the table. Because the fourth movie didn't very much at all. But that's kind of why I'm surprised by this news at all because I was not under the impression that it did very well. Like Matrix 4 or I guess they're just cashing in on the brand recognition as a whole and just hoping if the movie's better, it would make more money?

It didn't do well, I don't think, but I think they did the, I think that was when they were doing the... It was COVID too, huh? Yeah, it was while they were releasing it at the same time on H-Bow Max. So... So maybe they made money on it, I'm not sure.

Yeah, I mean, Dune got a sequel. They did the same thing then. Yeah. So they have some metrics to gauge interest, at least. Yeah, they would have done the numbers, I'm sure, but, uh... Mm-hmm. I don't know.

It's not an exciting franchise to me at this point. It's come and gone in my mind. Just fucking let it die. Make ten. Make ten of them. I mean, we're pretty much there. We'll be halfway there once this shit comes out. Yeah, have Keanu Reeves.

Isn't it? People will probably see it. Yeah. Anyway, Vince is depressed. Has this to ask. Hello Sards. What public domain character would work as a creepy version? The recent schlock, this recent schlock is nothing more than a lazy cash grab,

which creepy version of classic characters could work. I think Peter Pan, because his story is unintentionally creepy, or do what Batman did with the Mad Hatter, a psycho who dresses up like the character, and commits crimes. You know, I'm kind of going to reject this whole idea, because I'm sure you've seen this Winnie the Pooh, like, horror universe that they're trying to like would set up or whatever in these films. This trend is just lame to me.

It's a, it's a gimmick. It's corny. It's a gimmick. And yeah, it's only done because you get the, gimmick films are usually not great. Yeah, you get the free advertising of like, look what they did to Winnie the Pooh. Isn't this crazy? And it's like, that's, that's normally all they have as a concept.

And then you watch the movie and it's like just nothing. Yeah. It's the most forgettable, boring, lame shit you've ever seen. It's like, look, we're doing a whole MCU of it. I heard that Blood and Honey too has 100% Rotten Tomatoes score. Uh-huh. Yeah, it does just become like a marketing thing. It's just, I don't know, I don't think it's a very good way of coming up with like a fun story.

If that's all it is, it's like, it's a gimmick idea for a concept. I mean. It can be entertaining for like a little short or something, but for full film, it's like, yeah, it's. fucking yeah this you can do it you just need talented people doing it that's literally just it's a pretty easy answer you just need a talented person to do it mm-hmm there's I think there's a reason a lot of the talented filmmakers don't do it yeah you know like if it was that rich of an idea I'm sure we would mind it a little bit more at this point but yeah most examples of this are just

just fucking late so you don't have an answer as and you don't have like it, like, there's no idea in your head of like what could work. You like Peter Pan maybe, but. But I think some of these things are creepier when they are like packaged as a kid's thing, like the donkey stuff in Pinocchio. Mm-hmm. Like, that's creepy as hell. Like, I don't need it to be creepier.

Yeah. And those examples already out there, I suppose. But you could do like Alice in Wonderland meets. Climax. Like a really bad trip. Yeah. Like a R-rated danger mouse. That's what I want to see.

Yeah. Hardcore danger mouse. Yeah. We just need, I just really, I'm more interested in like ruining characters that people care about. He's someone that would like really be upset. But what's a character that people that, maybe Sonic?

Yeah, maybe Sonic. There's some fans. Would Sonic fans like? Would Sonic fans like an R-rated Sonic? Probably not, right? That's the thing. They probably want, no, they want R-rated Shattered the Hitchhog going around with machine guns on his motorbike.

Oh, yeah. They would see that and they would like it. Hmm, what's a good one? What's a good one that... Because, like, sometimes I think of a universe that's set up in like a kids movie type... property. And I think surely there's more death and destruction happening actually. Right? Yeah. Like Pokemon. You know, somebody made that edit. Did you ever see that YouTube edit where

somebody took, I think from like MUTU strikes back. Somebody made a very convincing, I think when I was like really young, I was like, oh, that's real. But essentially they took the scene where MUTU breaks out of the like containment lab. But then they spliced in. an entire scene from another anime where people are getting blasted by lasers like a bunch of scientists are getting like gourd and shit

Oh I might have seen that actually Yeah you're triggering an ancient memory Yeah that was cool But I don't know if we necessarily need that With Pokemon I don't know like Fucking I guess do we have

R-rated Godzilla movies That's not even like a kid's thing I'm just I watch the new We'll probably talk about this next week But yeah I always think about these like gigantic casualty death and destruction movies that are also for children and just how detached the overall sense of devastation is but you're not you don't really think about the people in the

buildings they're just like Zach Snyder kind of single-handedly changed that entire perspective with the man of steel thing where people I never watched that like oh this is yeah this is like a level of violence and it's depicted in such like an intense way that it got people thinking like, oh, yeah, this is, this is intense. There's a, there's a level we're not really thinking about here. And then every single, like, Super Mehero movie after that point had to overcompensate for that. You've got to have the five-minute sequence where they get everyone out of the city first

or try and minimize casualties because it is such a, like, oh, that's a lot of destruction. This is conjuring some kind of fucked up imagery. Yeah, I don't know. There's, uh, you would have to, like, take the IP in a sense. make your own movie out of it anyway in a way that you would essentially be writing an original property like if you wanted to do like a really good like Mickey Mouse horror movie or something yeah well like even like invincible is kind of yeah superman with some more layers going on some characterization that's like stronger than some of the typical stories I've seen anyway

yeah we just need we just need someone talented and I'm sure you know the a talented person could make any concept work. It just depends on how it's presented. Yeah. Right. Should we do one more kind of chunky one here? You like him chunky? I like him big. I like him chunky. Mm. Plumpy even. Um, toys noise can take it away then. How do you feel about paris social relationships existing in your own respective audiences? Does the risk of a fan crossing boundaries ever raise anxieties? Adam and Alex, I've been watching your content. for well over a decade. I know a lot about your opinions on various topics. I know things about your lives and friends. You've both had impacts on me bigger than I may realize and yet neither

of you even know my name. We will likely never meet. I could never out of the blue start a discussion with even a small celebrities like say Patton Oswald, but I can easily send Adam a super chat that he'll see and respond to immediately. Thank you. Yeah. This is an interesting thing. And it's something I think about when I, yeah, I meet people in person and there is like a catch up. You've almost got to play where it's like, oh man, you know all this stuff about me. I've got to like catch up quick on you. I'm like, what's your story? Like how do we get here?

Really interesting dynamic that I find that can have some weird moments as a result of it. Yeah. Yeah. The only the times where I want to break away from that conversation. are mostly just like if it turns into just I'm doing a Q and A because that feels like work to me

you know like I'll do that like on a stream or something yeah I hear you if I'm in an environment where I'm not on my stream and I'm not making a video and I'm not making content you know there's conversations that can be had but I would just prefer it not to be like what's your favorite movie like

that type of stuff like oh you saw that didn't and I'm like okay like these these things I'm talking about every other day of my life. And so when I'm taking a break, I would just rather not have that. So I'm, you know,

fans say hi. I'll take a picture. If the, you know, you want to chat a bit or whatever, but just, you know, learn the cues.

And if it looks like I'm already in the middle of a conversation with somebody else, then just keep it brief or something, because I'll want to go back to that. I think just keeping it brief is a good, good rule for the most part in general you know yeah you don't like socially kind of trap someone yeah and like obviously the people that are doing that don't necessarily realize they're doing it there's a variety of different people in different social skills and so it's like you know

you don't harbor any ill will towards those people but you know just it's better to get the word out I guess so to speak just to not ideally not have as many of those I guess I mean the overwhelming majority of fan interactions I have are very positive yeah same I don't think I've ever

had any particularly bad ones that sort of one or two and even then it's not bad bad it's just yeah some social cues being missed or yeah it's just wrong place wrong time type thing yeah and also here's a fun thing that I don't think a lot of people consider.

There are some days where you just feel so socially drained. Uh-huh. And like, you know, to the person that might see me or interact with me, that's probably maybe the only time they're ever going to see me. So I understand the want and, you know, the feeling of need to like have some kind of moment or interaction with that. But sometimes I'm just like, sometimes I'm just having like a bad day. Like not super often, but there are some days where I'm just like,

where I'm just thinking like, man, I can't, like, talk to anybody right now. Yeah. Some days where, like, I felt, like, kind of sick before I watched, like, Dune Part 2. I had to, like, take some Peptobismol, and I was like, I almost didn't even see it. I, like, scoot was driving me to the theater. I was like, just turn around. I'll just go back home.

And then I changed my mind and we turned it back around again. I was like, I'm going to tough it out. It was like the, like, the, like, super. special fan advanced screening. I was like, I won't be able to see it again for a week, and my boyfriend won't be in town, and he wants to see it with me. I'm like, okay, I wound up seeing it.

And so I was like so fucking out of it. And somebody at the theater said hi and like, asked for a photo and everything. And in my mind, I was just like, oh my God, I'm so, like, you know, I didn't hate the person and I didn't hate the way that they interacted with me. It was very positive. But in my mind, I was just like,

oh, man, I'm probably not coming off as like, you know you're not your best. Very personable. I'm probably, they probably think I'm an asshole. And then they left the comments on my video being like, oh, thanks for taking a picture. That was great. Thanks for saying hi. I'm like, oh, okay, maybe it was just in my head.

Yeah, probably was. Yeah, just overthinking it. Yeah, but yeah, sometimes the internal perspective can kind of just like overshadow and like throw a lens on everything you're experiencing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, I'm normally not an asshole. Yeah, with, I guess in terms of like parisocial. relationships.

Like they exist and I'm trying to you know, navigate what the boundaries are and not overstep my boundaries and not do anything like inappropriate. But I don't know. I'm just like I'm the type of person where like

if there's some sort of thing that's like actually an issue like I'm willing to say it. So. Yeah. Do you ever get any, does it ever raise anxieties for you? you say that's a rarity because it's definitely a rarity for me it's a rarity yeah because a lot of the ways like some of it manifests is just kind of like humorous or interesting to me like

on over on the jar cast where this like this just this guy don't even know his name he's just called like the jar finder and you can just say like oh what was the episode where he said this thing and he just knows and like people use him to like find things that's like Well, yeah, clearly there's like a level of like dedication there that's crazy. Yeah. Well, there's nothing wrong with that. But there's exactly. There's no one being hurt by that.

It's just like fun and this like part of this community. You're like creating media. And if somebody really connects with that media, then they'll, you know, if they watch it more than once, they might have more. Yeah. You know, better memories or, you know, maybe just like a more encyclopedic type of brain. So you would just find it fun. Like, I feel, I'm not like. of that level with anything, but I feel, I felt that like parasycial pull to like other creators

who've inspired me or podcasters I've listened to for a long time. I, I do get it to a certain degree. Yeah. As long as it stays within the realm of like just fun and silliness. Yeah. And so with, I guess with myself, like I'm in a different position where like I have a lot of interactions with people that I've only ever met online and then a meeting in person. Yeah. And you get used to it after a while in the sense of like, you're able to just like have a normal conversation with a person. Like I'm like I'm a big fan of like R.M. Brown's YouTube channel. He's a lot smaller. But I met him when I went to South by Southwest and it was like a, you know, we just hung out. I think most people, especially people with like much larger audiences, like actual celebrities and

you know, directors and actors and stuff. Like it's pretty, it's pretty clear to me like most people, if you interact with them at all. They want to be treated like just any other person. They don't want to be, you know, constantly in this, like, having to perform or having to, like, be on for somebody. And that's a feeling that someone can have if they feel like it's more of, like, a fan interaction versus, you know, just being, you know, if you say hi or something to someone that has, you know, super fan. famous. They just, yeah, it's, it's better if you treat them like it's not a big deal, which I know is very difficult because there's a lot of like, to people that have never met anyone with any level of like fame or whatever. Oops, sorry, that's my phone. Sorry. That have never met anyone with any

level of fame or whatever. There's this weird, human beings have this thing in our brains where like, if we're not exposed to something firsthand and we like are aware that it's, you know, we're, like, are aware that it's a thing and we treat these like celebrities in a weird way and we put them like on social pedestals and like all these concepts of like ideas of like fame and like social climbing or like association or like people will have like panic attacks in their head of like fuck am I going to say the wrong thing like a lot of the interactions that I have are people like apologizing in the sense where they're like oh I'm sorry if I'm being awkward I'm like no it's no big deal you know like that's fine

but I understand that like the psychology of the human brain there's a lot of weird pressures that get placed on us when it comes to just things that people are unfamiliar with it's the same thing in our brains that like makes the fucking majority of the population

just like absolutely psychotic over things like sex because it's just generally hidden from society right and so people have all these weird fucking and like insecurities and like traumas and yeah and there's that there's that great line um in the first men in black of all things where they say something like individuals are smart people are stupid people they hear like when they group up and they get into these like frenzy scenarios they'd just be different they'd be crazy these yeah these social pressures they don't even

realize it sometimes but yeah they are strong they got they got power these expectations um yeah yeah the only I think the only time I was like really nervous talking to someone was Charlie Kaufman because I I hold them on such a high regard and I've calmed down since then but also keep in mind that was literally the first interview I ever did on my channel that was my first interview was meeting like my fucking

favorite screenwriter and somebody that's like never meet your idols literally influenced my life in such a huge way and even more. So at this point, as I'm, you know, growing and recontextualizing his films and everything. Yeah. But yeah, I felt like if I met him again, I would be less scared. You can definitely hear like a shakiness in my voice in that interview.

But yeah, it's just something that you get over, I guess, but a lot of gross. A lot of people don't have that opportunity to have that experience often. Mm-hmm. Sure. All right. Right. So, uh, Alex is going to hurt me with his recommendation. Right.

Is the plan. Yeah. Maybe I'll love it. I did double check and I didn't, I didn't see a rating. All right. Uh, I don't think you'd given this a rating. All right. 2011 film, right?

Oh. Disney. Um, I'm scared already. Directed by Simon Wells, who we actually have covered before. weirdly with Prince of Egypt. But this time I want to talk about Mars needs moms. Mars needs moms. Okay.

Okay. Mars needs moms. Yeah. I wanted to shift to more of a mom type movie. All right. That wasn't as bad as it could have been. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. So what, what's, have you seen it? Yeah, I've seen Mars needs moms. Okay. Oh, all right. Yeah. I guess I won't ask you too many questions. I just kind of need you to see this.

Yeah, yeah. All right, so it's a must see. I'd say it's a must see. It's like a required viewing. It's kind of one of those Mars mom movies, everyone should have in their data banks. If you ever watch a movie with Mars and moms in it, this is top of your list. You need to. Needs moms.

It may be, it's one of the movie titles that is just like really stuck with me for some reason. Yeah. Mars needs moms. Yeah. It's a necessity. Okay. All right. We'll see how this one goes.

I have not seen this. Yeah, I'm very curious. It'll be a fresh experience. Do you know anything about it? You don't know anything about it? I know it was a flop. That's all I know about it. Okay, cool.

So you don't. There's some funny shit to do this movie. Okay, great. Thank you. All right, if you don't want to be spoiled for Mars Needs Moms, directed by Simon Wells. Watch it before the next episode. These episodes come out every two weeks. You can listen to them early by going to sardonicast.com.

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Yeah, watch it with your mama. Yeah. Perfect. Mother's Day gift is the Blu-ray for Mars needs moms. Especially if your name is Mars. Mm. She'll be like, aw, you need me. Make me emotional.

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