Sardonicast - Sardonicast #21: Pixar, Don’t Look Now

Episode Date: November 20, 2018

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I mean Like a compliment Yeah Hey everybody I'm Adam from your movie sucks This is Sardonicast Alex? Speechless, I see.

I'm Alex from I hear everything. Yeah, I'm flawed. I'm Ralph from you to dot-con slash Ralph, the movie maker. Perfect. Okay. Are we all doing?

I'm doing good. Now that that's out of my system. Yeah. I've got something important. I need to tell you guys. Yeah. I'm holding something. Can you guys guess what I'm holding?

Your dick. Disgusting. Get your mind out of the gutter. That's on my left hand. No, today I was going through a supermarket and I saw something that caught my eye, a bright blue drink with a big G on it called Gatorade. Oh, it exists. In the like, in the American sort of import part of this one supermarket I was in.

So I found it. And I had to buy it. Yeah. And I haven't tasted it. And I wanted to taste it right now so I could tell you guys what I think. Like, there has to be some sort of equivalency. I can't believe. that there's like no such thing as there has to be some sort of sports drink i've had a look i've

had a look around where i live uh some people are saying apparently they do sell it in some places but i'd never seen it before like no no power aid no you know no equivalency of some sort there's other there's what's it called there's some scottish one that i hate okay that i couldn't find anywhere but you hate everything i just had a sip it's blue so i guess it's grape flavor um it's what i normally avoid blue liquids What? What do you mean what? It's blue, so it must be grape? Or did you read it and it says grape?

Grape is purple. It does... What? Isn't that like an American thing? Like, blue things are grape? No. No. I was about to say, like blueberry, yeah.

Like, if it's a blueberry. Usually if it's blue and it's a sports drink, it's going to be like blue raspberry or something like that, or maybe like... Really? I'm trying to remember the blue flavor. A lot of different flavor. A lot of different. colors I don't know grapes are purple or white this one's great or red Alex you like it I guess they're green too so it's all right I guess yeah it's all

right do you feel those electric all over America I hate it it's really sugary though oh yeah it's just sugar water I'd rather just drink normal water what's wrong with that it's not like my live review as sugary as a soda I don't think oh of course snap, but, you know, there's some, there's some stuff there's got 30 grams of sugar in it. That's, that's, that's like a daily amount of sugar in one, one drink. Well, sorry. Oh, well. Sorry for ruining your diet.

Do you feel more energized now? I do. I'm going to, I'm going to be hyped. And if it has caffeine, I'm going to be extra hyped. Speaking of hype, there's a trailer for Toy Story 4. It's a teaser. Yes. Aren't you hyped?

Oh, hell yeah. Nope. I don't know. Why are they made? making it. They're making it because they're Pixar and they just make sequels now and money. Cash grab. I'm such a shame. At least I was alive during like the golden age. I mean like it's not even the same people anymore, you know? It's like they've swapped so many employees back and forth between Pixar and like Disney animation. It's just it's not. Didn't John Laster

get booted off of Pixar because of some allegations? I think maybe something like that. Yeah. Do you remember back in the day when it was the whole, well, we only made Toy Story 2 because we had an awesome idea for it? Yeah. When they made movies because they wanted to make them and now that's like, it's like the complete opposite. In the promotional material for Wally, the trailers that they had for Wally, they would play this ad where they told the story of Pixar and it was like, we just sat down at a diner and we came up with all these ideas and they listed through all of, the movies that they'd made previously, like talking car and bug and toys and the last one is Wally. And that's how they marketed the film, which inadvertently implies that every idea after that is not one of their original ideas and is, you know, just, just an astrothal.

This is bullshit. Any bullshit they could come up with. It's just like, ah, what do we do now? Brave is like the ultimate, like, I don't know, Princess in Scotland. Yeah, everyone forgot that existed. I thought their low point was that dinosaur. The good dinosaur. That was awful. No, I didn't even see that one. It was so bad it was. It was genuinely really bad.

Yeah. Not just mediocre. It was really bad. And that was the same year's inside out, which is like, I'm not saying it's up, you know, with their old movies, but it was at least original and somewhat interesting. Was it the same year? Yeah, I think so. And good dinosaur was like later that year. Coco was all right.

Coco was good, too. It was all right. Yeah, I like Coco a lot. Finding Dors were like Dider. was cancer. And the animation's always great. What else? Cars 3 was a masterpiece. Yeah. Monsters University. It was really dark.

Incredibles 2. Yeah. That's another one. They're like, oh, we're not going to come up with an Incredibles 2 until we have a really good idea. And would they come up with after 10 years? E's his stay at home, dad. That's it. It's just marketing. That was the only came up with.

Parenting is the real superpower. We're heroes in our own way. Oh, God. Jack, Jack fights a raccoon. Nice. It took you 10 years to come up with that. You know how long people were waiting? 10 years?

Oh my God. 10 years. Right? Just about. Yeah, around there. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was. Yeah, Jesus Christ.

We were like kids when Incredibles 1 came in. Yeah. They released the teaser for Toy Story 4. It looks super gay. and recently they released another teaser. I don't know if you guys saw it. I felt like you didn't really need to see it that this would just be a surprise if you haven't.

But they have two new characters played by Key and Peel. And that's how they're marketing the movie now. Is that Key and Peel are in Toy Story. Key and Peel are in it. Yeah. But they used to market them on just being good movies. Yeah, remember the point in time where you could have like an all-star cast But you didn't need to put them on the poster and you didn't need to shove them in the trailers and be like

Whoopi Goldberg plays Shenzie, you know like Yeah, you didn't you didn't need to do that at a certain point in time It's a new it's a spoon isn't it or something is that the main character? What's happening? What are they doing the same story? I think it's a major new character, right? Major character. It's an introduced character just like Kean Peel. Who knows what's happening. It might not be Woody's story. I don't know. The blurb on the like IMDB page says when a new toy called Forky joins Woody and the gang, a road trip alongside old and new friends reveals how big the world can be for a toy. So it's a road trip again? Oh yeah. I feel like this might be like the Force Awakens of Toy Story. well like a soft reboot yeah i think that's my that might be what they're going is that just that would be funny

yeah maybe i don't know that's probably what they're doing honestly who knows i don't know either way it's going to be filled with nostalgia bait guaranteed yeah that's what pica rides on now but aren't people sick of it now like even i'm sick of it and i suck pixar's dick and even i'm sick of it hmm no i don't think people are they well that that trailer is a lot of you and a lot of likes. Yeah, because everyone loves Toy Story. But everyone was happy with how Toy Story ended. Like, so many people were like, wow, the third one was great, and I'm very satisfied

with it. And, like, Toy Story. I know you don't like it, Adam. We could talk about that, but, like, most people were satisfied with it. And like, okay, that was a good way to end the trilogy. And now I get to put my childhood to rest and move on with my life. And now we just fucking dredge up the same shit 10 years later because Hollywood can't make money anymore.

They don't know how to make money. so any fucking property they have it's too valuable of an IP isn't it you know who wasn't happy with the ending who you Pixar apparently oh right yeah

because they didn't make enough money yeah they didn't want it to end there yeah it's not that they didn't make enough money is that they didn't make all the money yeah keeping now the ending means nothing it has to keep going it has to get going for 200 years

we have to make Toy Story movies for hundreds of years until there's no people left to see it. We need a prequel. We need to explain how this all happened. Oh, please. That's always a wee prequel. Can you imagine?

That'd be funny. It's possible. It's probably gonna happen. It is. It's totally possible. And you get to see like Woody and Buzz as fucking kids, even though it makes no sense because they're made of plastic. Like, that's what they do now.

It's so sad. I haven't seen like a good original movie in a theater from like a Hollywood studio and like I can't even remember how long you know blade runner 2049 was like a Sony yeah that was a year ago and no one saw that that can make its money back because it was good how would you guys feel about instead of soft rebooting them if they went in and sort of literally remade some of the scenes like from the original toy story like an HD remaster you sort of yeah would that not be preferable over like

a prequel or something. You know what? I'd actually like that idea. Yeah, I wouldn't be too upset about that. They probably have all the files, right? Yeah, just add new textures. If you can, if you can point anything, yeah, if you can point to anything about the original toy stories,

it's just slightly dated, I guess, in terms of the CG. That's kind of it. The toys look real, but the humans look like toys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it fit really well. That's why they picked toys. Yeah, that's why they chose to do animation on toys is, because they have very simple textures.

And back with the limitations of computer animation at the time, it was like, wow, this actually looks real. It's like understanding your limitations, and that's why it was so smart. Yeah. Yeah. But it could also go horribly wrong, and they could start adding things to the movie to make it worse,

like George Lucas did. I mean, this is what George Lucas pitched, right, with the remaster of Star Wars. Like, oh, I'm just going to take all the effects and make them better and modernize them. And you're like, oh, cool. And then the movies suck. They're way worse than they were. because of that.

I guess. Did you know that Toy Story 2 almost got accidentally deleted and that the only reason that they were able to finish the movie is because they were able to copy the files from somebody who just took some of the work home with them? Like one employee.

There was like one copy left and they almost lost like the whole movie. Yeah. That would have been fucking hilarious. It would have been a disaster. Who knows if it would have gotten made even. Disney might have pulled the plug being like, oh, they would have made it.

The budget. It would have been twice as big. It's just those computer animators would have been like Justice League. They had to make the whole movie all over again. Pixar is, the glory days are over. Yeah, they've been over for a while. Yeah. But they come up every once in a while with something cool, like Coco, and inside out.

They were fine. They were, they're still not. They're still not like. They're more consistent than like Dreamworks and illumination. I can't call them consistent anymore. God, Elimination. Not with, like, the good dinosaur and cars and, you know. I mean, I can't call them consistent.

They always put out competent products. They, not always. I don't think they're that pandering compared to, like, illumination. They don't have, yeah, they don't have a bad. Oh, fuck. That's something we should talk about. That new Grinch movie. Jesus Christ, I almost forgot.

They're rebooting Shrek. Didn't Tyler the Creator? Oh, yeah. They're rebooting Shrek. Oh, yeah. But didn't Tyler the Creator do, like, the Grinch soundtrack? He did a song for it at least. Oh, he did a song for him.

It's like, oh, so you just got Tyler the creator because he's popular now because they did the same with them. Dispickable Me, remember? They got Farrell Williams to do that song. They just get all these stars that really have nothing to do. Venom! Yeah, like Eminem. Oh, man, it's so sad. Gotta be hip with the kids.

But anyway, what were you saying, Adam? The Shrek movie is being rebooted. Yeah. And it's... By illumination, right? Yeah, and what's really sad about it is like, it's almost like we can't just have a good meme anymore. Because that's why it's happening, is because Shrek's a meme. It's because Shrek has continued to be popular.

And now they're just going to ruin it. Do you think they'll embrace the meme and like reference it and stuff? It doesn't matter. That's a worse scenario. We don't need a reboot. Make another sequel. I don't care. See, I thought it was announced like last year or something that they were going to be making another Shre.

movie anyway, right? I don't know what's happening anymore. I vaguely remember that, the internet going crazy, because, yeah, it was Shrek and I think Space Jam is getting a sequel as well as some shit. Oh, yeah. Space Jam? Yeah, LeBron. If you make it another space jam, give me a fucking break.

Trudy pandering to the 90s kids. Yeah, we live in the age of nostalgia. That's what sells. I don't find anything. Oh my God. They're going to be in an endless feedback loop. And they're going to do like a smash mouth cover. I'll get some like, I don't know, Katie Perry to cover that song from Shrek.

All-Star? You know they're going to do it. Yeah, All-Star. They're totally going to do it. That would suck. Or like somebody, I don't know, some pop star, some bullshit. Who's popular? Whoever's popular two years from now.

But if Illumination are in charge of the animation, when it comes out, it will look worse than the original Shrek because their films look like dog shit. Absolutely. They have awful art direction and horrible character designs. And they're cheap as fuck. Yep. They might not even make new character designs. They might just copy the old ones, like the files and just use them.

When was the last Trek movie? Like five, six years ago? They just use that. Whatever. No, they do that thing that they make the legs tiny or the head tiny. You know, they're like having tiny bits. I just don't like their character design. I think it sucks.

And they have cute pets, too. They'll make donkey look cute. Give them big eyes. Turn them into a dog. Yeah, you look like he's out of the secret life of pets. Oh, yeah, they'll turn him into a dog. Great. Oh my God.

Not impressed. I picture it now. Speaking of character designs, there's a trailer for Detective Pikachu. It's a movie, and it's a live action, and they've got Pokemon. Yeah, I watched the trailer and thought, wow, this looks fucking lame. And then I saw the comments and the reactions from everyone, and they were like, wow, this actually looks awesome.

I can't wait. Can you believe Mr. Mimeuses Reflect? Holy shit Clap Then I was like Oh I guess I'm just in the corner alone On this one I guess this fucking just

I'll watch it Seeing Pokemon like this is It's just I'm not expecting anything good from it The director has literally Never made a good movie ever Who is he? He did like Gulliver's Travels

Or what's that stupid Jack Black movie? Oh my God really? That's like one of the worst movies I've ever seen Rob Letterman The one with Jack Black? Yeah he's directed Oh Gulliver's Travels

2015 goosebumps, Monsters versus aliens, and Shark Tale. So like, there's no... Sharktail? There's no way. This guy's still making movies? There's no way this movie's going to be good

based on that alone. Yeah, yeah. And the character designs are pretty, like, uncanny valley, too. And also, it should have been Danny DeVito, not Ryan Reynolds. Come on. Danny DeVito Pikachu.

Yeah, like all the creative decisions. Really strange. Like, hyper-realistic. Pokemon? It makes them look very strange in that like gritty world, isn't it? I think people have a need to like, they, I think people just want to see their cartoon heroes, like in live action. There's like this need for that, I think, in the general public, even if it doesn't really work. And yeah, Pokemon's like a perfect example of that. Like when you see Charazard at the end and you see like the gummy inside of his mouth with spit flying everywhere, it's like, what, I don't want to see,

see Charzar doing that I want to see him like a dumb 2D cartoon or like a simplistic 3D render not that yeah even if it was just like Pokemon Stadium style or something you know where they still resemble the actual cartoon they actually got there was a a series of images created by some guy that I think it was called like realistic Pokemon and it was like this meme however long ago where he would just he would take these Pokemon characters and make them hyper realistic and kind of like a weird grotesque way, they actually hired him for the movie. They found the guy and they, I'm not even kidding.

They actually found the guy and they hired him for the movie, even though it's like, these realistic Pokemon, I don't even think they were made to look any kind of appealing at all, you know? Yeah, that's kind of the point. I mean, I'm glad the guy's getting work, though. Like that really creepy hyper-realistic Mario picture where you can see all of his pores? Like, nobody wants that shit. Did you see the, did you see the,

SpongeBob ones. I love those. Those are pretty cool. Are you guys fans of Pokemon? Because I could give a flying shit about Pokemon. I was when I was 12. The original 150, maybe Gen 2, just a bit, but

definitely the original 150. I still play the card game every once in a while. It's so much fun. And I'm definitely going to go through gold or silver on my gaming channel. I went through Pokemon Blue. I told you about this. where I stayed up only.

But yeah, it's, it's, the, the Pokemon universe, the original 150 is something very close to my heart. And something that I grew up with, I would love to see something live action, but done right. It's never going to happen, you know, like, because it's not only a huge intellectual property and lots of money is going to be dictating what's going to be done with it, but also it's for kids. and we're never going to see anything that has like real consequences or real action you know it's all just going to be watered down realistic Pokemon i don't know if that would work either what would be wrong with just doing an animated movie you know like a CG animated movie why is that to be like a 2d animated one 2d animation is great i don't understand why we don't do that anymore it doesn't appeal to the hollywood crowd though does it i guess not

but that's spider-man movie i think that's going to do well. It'll do well. That's 3D though. It's 3D. But it looks like 2D, kind of. And it's also Spider-Man. I don't know.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, chances of this film's going to be a big fart. Did you like the part when if I flashed back to the, do you guys see the Tom and Jerry movie where there's that scene where they're like, you can talk?

Oh God. You can understand me? It was just like that. As soon as that happened, I was like, yeah. Okay, so you're obviously experiencing some sort of grief from this. And if you understand human language and could effectively communicate, and it's just your voice that's the problem, why don't you try sign language or writing or something?

Like, you could communicate in some other way if this is like your big issue right now. You shouldn't just be limited to your voice. Anyway. It's just weird hearing Deadpool come out of Pikachu. Yeah, Ryan Reynolds is not the best choice, I don't think. Terrible choice. has like a very high pitched voice right I think you could have gotten just any voice actor Danny DeVito Danny DeVito would have been funny as well yeah would have

actually been like oh yeah this looks like shit but at least Danny DeVito's yeah it would be interesting Ryan Reynolds is just such a too safe of a choice it's like default voice yeah yeah he's got like a normal voice well it's just so he's popular because of Deadpool and he's funny funny yeah let's put him in funny funny funny funny Normie man from Canada I think he's actually from Vancouver You proud I don't know if I there's tons of

Like talented people from Canada that just forget their country and make American movies only so Because that's where all the money is That's what happens Anybody that becomes like moderately successful in Canada It's like well Goodbye Go to America

Yeah See, except for like Denisville Nove, who, you know, although he's still making American movies, you know, like Arrival was a Canadian movie, pretty much so. Oh, yeah? I didn't even know that. I'm pretty sure it was shot in Canada at least. I don't know. Who, what even makes a Canadian movie anymore? Like, in order to get funding from the government, like, if you're going to get government grants to make a movie, there's all these crazy rules that have to be applied, like a percentage of your actors, like a very high percentage. have to be Canadian actors. And it's like, come on. You know, you're really just harming the product at that point.

Because our population, our entire country, is less than that of California. So we have so much smaller of a talent pool spread out over so much larger of an area. And that's why you never see any good Canadian movies. All the really good actors, all the really good actors go to Hollywood. Yeah. But that being said, Hollywood shoots an awful lot in Canada. Oh, in Vancouver, yeah. Vancouver. A lot of movies get made.

But that's just from tax subsidies. Same with animation. Yeah. But they're still American movies. Creates lots of work. Yeah, they're still American movies. But, hey, Canada makes a little something, something. Yeah.

Well, we'll see how Detective Pikachu is. Because... You guys enjoy. I won't even know what's out when it comes out. Okay. Yeah, well, you'll be first in line. Nah, I really don't give a shit. I could give a flying fuck about Pikachu.

That's like me and Bohemian Rhapsody right now. Did you guys see it? Oh, yeah. No, I didn't, yeah. Oh, really? I hope to soon. Oh, wow. Yeah.

I'm shocked. I thought you were excited. Ramey's in it. I thought you were excited enough that you would have seen it already. I've been busy. Okay. I've been so busy with other stuff. But, yeah, I will see it at some point.

I've heard mixed things, too. But, again, Ramey's in it. So at least I'll enjoy Sam Ramey Sam, yeah Speaking of Ramey Malick Did you guys see Sam Esmiel's new show? No

Homecoming? No, I've heard good things though Spider-Man It's fucking awesome Wait, what do you mean Spider-Man? Homecoming? Oh, not Spider-Man, homecoming It's just called Homecoming

I know It's Julia Roberts in an office And it's fucking great Is it? Yeah, I'm going to suck Sam Esmail's dick every podcast that's all right we all need

something to do yeah we'll discuss it one day I think I think Alex would really like it because you like better call Saul it reminds me a lot of that oh really yeah I finished the late season of that

oh that was an amazing too very very very good very well done yeah and TV is where it's at streaming yeah streaming right you know who's gonna put an end to that what

Disney with Disney Plus. Goodbye, Golden Age of streaming. It's Disney deciding, hey, you know what? We don't make as much of a cut from Netflix as we want to. Let's have our own streaming service. We'll probably charge just as much. And all of our content will be exclusive on Disney Plus.

So be prepared to pay another $10 a month. And then we'll see how many other studios do that. As soon as you know it, piracy is going to be extremely popular again. Yep. Let's just pretend like there's no correlation there. Well, actually, I don't think so, because for people to buy the service, the content would have to be good. And I don't think Disney's made much good stuff recently.

Here's what they could do to make it appealing. Okay. Every single film from their library, Disney, they now own Fox, every single fucking thing that they own on their streaming service for like 10 bucks a month. Plus, to make it super appealing, if they did something where it was like, okay, we're going to release it while it's in theaters

and you can pay to see it on the streaming service, that would be like, okay, you've won the market. If you're releasing movies streaming while they're in theaters, then you've won this game and I don't, I'm not even going to criticize you. That would be appealing.

Can you really see them doing that there? don't do that. Of course. You know, their Avengers. Of course they won't do that. I guess like it would be way easier to pirate something in that sense because somebody could just screen record. But I don't know. Like it depends how much of a market there is for that because Netflix, they have so

many fucking subscribers that I wonder how much they're making in comparison to, I guess, like the average collection of films and theaters. Like I don't know what the exact numbers are. Well, obviously a lot. But Netflix also has a lot of variety, and Disney's not really about variety. They all do family-oriented stuff, which will still make them tons of money, but... Yeah, why don't it just be Marvel, Star Wars, and animated films? What else do they do?

Yeah, but that's enough, right? Touchstone. I suppose that is enough, like, yeah, but... I heard talks, they're making, like, a Scarlet Witch show on there, right, with Elizabeth Olson. Are they doing something like that? Someone told me that. I suppose the original programming would be smart. their movies aren't doing that well

aside from the Marvel stuff like they made that Nutcracker movie right? Oh that new one? What do you mean? Like Beauty and the Beast remake and shit they do really well didn't they? Yeah but then you get the wrinkle in times and those kinds of movies yeah I guess like they have some of the lowest grossing movies of all time but they also have the highest

They know how to make money that's for sure and I appreciate them releasing the Nutcracker in December because otherwise it would conflict with no nut November so Bazinga but it came out in November did it I thought it was December maybe it's December it's just it came out it's gone already out at theaters what yeah it came and went no it's not out of theaters yet but like it came out it was like fifth place or some shit yeah there was no way that was gonna be good that's for sure I thought it was not out until December no what are we talking about the nutcracker

the nutcracker movie the nut movie Did you even know this came out? No? Dude, anything. What was it? Nutcracker? We have the rights to that? Fucking make it.

Oh, the Nutcracker in the Four realms. Yeah, that came out on the second of November. Is the Nutcracker public domain? Yeah, maybe. I don't know. Could be. Well, regardless, they're like, oh, people know the Nutcracker. Let's make it.

And then it made $37 million in America with a $120 million budget. Oh, God. Which means it probably costs like $300 million, all things can see. considered. So, good job. Shouldn't have released it in November. People can't see it. Shouldn't have released it at all. You shouldn't have made it. Should have given that money to a guy who knows how to make a movie with a vision.

Or to homeless people and starving children. They just donated it to charity too. It looks like a fake movie from the poster. It looks like a fan-made poster. The cinematography actually looked good. It looked like a high production value movie. It's just like, who cares about seeing nutcrackers? and they made it like an action movie.

They made it look like Alice of Wonderland or something. Oh yeah, like dark and gritty bullshit. Yeah. It's like, come on. That was popular maybe like 10 years ago, but everyone got sick of that. The Nutcracker was popular 10 years ago? Or you're talking about the format? No, like that dark gritty fairy tale.

No, like the dark gritty fairy tale. Like when that first Alice in Wonderland movie came out, it was huge. And they made movies like that. And then like people just got sick of that shit. And for some reason, they thought it would work now and it didn't. what I don't get about these remakes isn't the whole appeal of Disney animated movies that they're colorful and vibrant and fun

but these remakes are dark and moody and grimy the Snyder approach the comparison with that yeah the Snyder approach like that teaser for the Aladdin one it's just like what is the point this looks like shit compared to the original it didn't even know there was a teaser

yeah yeah it looks really bad do we know he's playing the genie it's Will Smith yeah perfect so this is a story he's gonna play himself you're gonna top robin williams

that's like one of the greatest performances in animated film it's almost like insulting to even bother to attends again I know a few guys who would top Robin Williams Bazinga well uh Shaq could could totally do it

oh the guy from the big bang theory yeah oh my No, no. Sheldon. Yes. Sheldon is the genie. Oh, God.

Fan edit. Do it now. You can just add in a bunch of bazinger. Make it echo from the lamp. We'll see that in the subreddit later. I'm sure. I don't know if you have anything else to say about Disney Plus. It's just not a...

I'm just depressed. I mean, whatever. All this news is just like, here's a shit story. Yeah. Here's another one. This is like all the movie news that's come out. There's nothing exciting. We're remaking this.

We're rebooting this. Oh, who gives a shit anymore? God damn it. Alex, you were saying that earlier that there's a film breaking bad thing happening, maybe? Apparently, yeah, apparently Vince Gilligan has plans to make a Breaking Bad movie. set after the events of the show based around Jesse or something. Oh, okay. I mean, if anyone can pull it off, it would be him, right?

Like, you proved he's not a one-trick pony with Veckelsall, so I'd watch a two-hour movie. I just hope it doesn't feel like a TV show when I watch it. True, yeah. I hope that too. I really hope they, like, up the production value in cinematography, really. I mean, like, Breaking Bad is up there, for sure, for show. shows, but... But Better Call Saul

steps it up a lot, I think. Yeah, it does. The thing that made Better Call Saul great, though, is that it was so different from Breaking Bad, and it felt very fresh. They could do that again, but, like, how well would it fit to make a not...

My fear would just be, um, fan service, you know? How much fans are the shit they shove in. But, I mean, we should give him the benefit of the doubt, I mean, based on Better... Yeah, he might give the benefit of the doubt.

Absolutely. Yeah. Because he's a very, very talented. man. So yeah, in any other context with any other franchise, this may seem way more cynical and cash grabby, but I mean, if anyone's going to have a good idea and be able to fulfill on the promise,

he'll be able to do it. Hopefully, yeah. I mean, I hope so. I have zero expectations. Not saying they're low expectations, I just don't have any. When I first heard, when Breaking Bad End did that there was going to be a spin-off, medical saw show, I was like, that's dumb. It's clearly like a stupid cash

grab just to make sure the breaking bad train doesn't stop but yeah it's really thoughtful like you can tell there's a lot of history and like thought but into it so yeah they actually made saul goodman like an interesting character and not just a joke a fascinating character yeah yeah really and um his his girlfriend what the hell's her name kim right she's yeah yeah fantastic and mike yeah mike and gus like that that show has fan service in it too by bringing back all those old people but it really fits and they really flush it out. It doesn't feel pandering those, I think? No, no, not all.

There are one or two instances, I'd say, are a bit too much for me, but I think overall, for how long it's been going, it's pretty fucking good in regards to that kind of thing. What season are they on? Yeah, absolutely. They're about to, it just reads four. Yeah, so five's going to be out next year. And it feels like it's wrapping up, so.

Yeah. Did you guys watch The Haunting of Hillhouse? No, I didn't. Okay. The haunting of Mailhouse. My God. glasses. The ghost.

I've heard good things, though. I've heard good things. I'm probably going to make a video on it. I was just seeing if you guys... Oh, okay. Is it as good as Syspuria? No. Honestly, I won't spoil anything about the show.

My rating for it is a four, is all I'm going to say. Oh. There's not... I mean, I watched through the whole thing. You know, I watched through the ten episodes. But overall, I just felt like the only reason I did it is because the show kept blue-balling me. It's like, come on, just fucking reveal the thing.

A lot of Netflix shows, too long. It could have been told in two hours, instead it was 10, but anyway, like, I guess we'll move on to something else. The Cool Cat Twitter account has been doing some interesting things lately. Yeah. What's Cool Cat up to? I haven't been up to date on this at all, so please. In the Odyssey of Derek Savage, Twitter,

meltdown just his perpetual meltdown that just will not end he had he had a go at someone on Twitter who said yeah that was it because there was obviously a new shooting that happened in America so then so Derek with it his eyes spin around and turn into dollar signs and he runs over to Twitter and uploads a picture gun self-defense for ladies like saying these shootings are not going to stop so learn how to protect yourself our film Guns Self-Defense for Ladies covers guns may stun guns karate and knife protection and with a big picture the poster knife protection and someone gave him shit saying Derek almost everyone here is

criticizing you for this why keep defending it why can't you just admit that this was a poor time to plug your DVD besides who actually buys this shit why do you think people want gun safety tips from the guy who made cool cat and then that's that's what threw him over the edge to which he replied it's puny snowflake punks like you that give the bad guys an open window to hurt good people you are a cockroach and this message is from Derek god damn on the cool cat Twitter account let's just remember that part like he doesn't understand the boundaries between like what should be allowed on a Twitter promotional account for a children's television show.

He was doing the same thing after the terrorist attack and niece. Seriously? Like, every time there's like a major shooting, he's like, well, wouldn't have happened if you just watched my DVD. Think about that. Do you not just love the irony of going on your Twitter called at Cool Cat Loves you and calling people Cockcray? Yeah, people are self-office. It is the best Twitter account ever. But is it normally like kid friendly?

I debatably not honestly He's always hitting on women and stuff With his Twitter No I'm not even kidding yeah As Cooca Yeah There were ones where he's like

Like he's role playing as cool cat being like You should date my daddy Derek I'm not even kidding It's really really creepy But also hilarious And I encourage everybody to follow that Twitter account It's the gift that keeps on giving. Do you think he listens to this?

I don't know. He's a crazy person. Derek, Derek, if you're listening, don't, like, go public on Twitter and do that. Keep doing it. Keep doing it. Yeah, keep doing it, whatever. You need to lay off the Twitter guy. Just, you know, step back from the internet and reevaluate.

Can you get more embarrassed? Like, can he become even more embarrassing, like, from this point? Is he in Rock Bottom? I don't think he has any shame. Like, you have to be shameless to use a school shooting or a shooting in general to, like, promote your own bullshit. It's horrible. But it wouldn't have happened if they watched the DVD. Yeah, that's right.

All these gun issues in America, they could have been resolved if we all just sat back and watched Cool Cat. It instructs how to use a gun or whatever it's called. So did he change the title to ladies instead of women? It used to be gun self-defense for women. On the picture he uploaded, it says in big red font, gun self-defense for ladies. Because he keeps doing this fucking thing where he keeps like George Lucasing his own works and making small tweaks and pretending it's a new product and he's just releasing the same thing. That video he posted on his YouTube channel, Cool Cat loves MMA. People are like, oh yeah, Adam, look, there's a new Cool Cat book.

I watched the video. It's the same. Literally, he just changed the word wrestling to MMA on his previous book. It's the same cover. It's the same thing. Yeah, he's tricking people to make money. Like, I don't think he, I don't know what his business plan is. Like, he moved away from L.A., which is presumably where the cool cat actor is.

Yeah. And so that's probably why he was pretending to be Cool Cat in that other video where he split the screen in half and just got in the suit. I don't know, like... My guess is that he's out of money. Like, that's why he moved out of L.A. probably. It's expensive for him over there. In Vegas, that's for sure. Yeah, so he's like, he's probably couch surfing or something.

Yeah, how much money is he realistically making from this? You never know. Probably used to make a lot, because Cool Cat became huge, but I don't know. If only he could crowdsource something and actually follow through on his promises. Oh, yeah. How much money did he make from that in the end? I don't know. Or was it one of those ones where...

Over 9,000? If they don't... For fuck sake. This is that the real... These retro memes just coming in. I think that was around the amount. It was supposed to be a school shooting film and he ditched it and it's like cool cat cooking. Stranger Danger cooking tips or something.

And I don't even think that's out. I don't know what he's doing. I think he's just scamming people. Yeah. Like I don't think he's making any new material. Like the only shit he's making is just like making small updates to previously existing films of his. and then pretending it's a new product. I bought that Cool Cat, the Kid's Superhero film, what, five months ago now?

I still haven't watched it. Because it's just, I know it's just like it's the same movie with like an extra scene or something. You know? Should I watch it? I guess I should. I've just like, I've become kind of disinterested. I really just want a new Cool Cat movie. I'm looking, I'm looking through the Kickstarter now or like I Googled.

Cool Cat Kickstarter and there's like a fuck ton of Kickstarter and Indie Go-Go's Oh yeah I don't even know which one is the one He keeps making new ones Yeah you keep redoing it didn't it It's crazy It's honestly like an insane person

Is running this Well that's why I wanted a cool cat t-shirt But I'm scared to buy one Because you'll have my address and might be able to put it together Send it to a friend's address Don't don't use your name Yeah Send it to somebody else

A friend's house will blow up He won't know that they're associated with you That's what I did to order the movie I just sent I got a friend to order it Because actually like it's not even that like Oh no he'll have my address It's that when he blocked me on Twitter I tried to buy something from him after

And he like refunded it immediately He was like I don't like he just doesn't want me As a customer anymore Like okay Wow Yeah That's crazy Yeah

So that's how few orders he gets He actually like looks through them and sees the names Yeah, it's very strange Adam, you're probably the only person Who thought anything from it Maybe You never know He's just counting on you

To keep buying stuff from him It's hilarious I see quite a few people at Conventions with the cool cat shirt People wearing it ironically Yeah, it's pretty good That's good All right, well

Thanks Daddy Derek for continuing to capitalize off of tragic shootings. Keep at it. I'm sure you'll sell more copies of your gun self-defense DVD from that. Just a fun new hobby.

Jesus Christ. He needs to make another Cool Cat movie. Get on it. He needs to stop. He needs to stop making a fool of himself. I genuinely feel, I almost feel bad for him now. This got ridiculous. It's been ridiculous from the start, though.

It's somehow escalating more. It's one of the greatest memes. That's right. It's the gift that keeps on given. All right, well... Can we talk about something good? Can we? On this podcast?

Is that allowed? Yes. It goes against the name. Well, I guess I could introduce the movie we're talking about. Yeah, go that. Yeah, let's do it. So, I recommended a movie. Spoiler alert, for those of you who haven't seen it.

Movies called Don't Look Now. It's directed by... I forgot his name, too. Nicholas Rogue. It's directed by Nicholas Rogue. And yeah, it's fantastic. It's about a couple lose their daughter, and she drowned in a lake. So they go to Venice to kind of, you know, recoup and move past it.

And shit just spirals out of control from there. There's psychics, there's paranormal activity, there's dwarves in red coats. It's amazing. So let's talk about it. Who's first? What did you guys think of it? Alex. I thought it was okay.

Okay, interesting. Let's go. Let's go. I didn't take that much away from it. I thought on a technical and creative level, there were some interesting and impressive things, like the editing and a lot of the camera work I enjoyed. But in the end, I found it quite mechanical, and almost limp in the end. I totally disagree with that.

Yeah. Okay. Adam. I enjoyed it. I did feel as though it was kind of slow for... The opening scene was great. And then most of what happened in Venice up until the last 40 minutes, I was a little uninvested. But overall, I enjoyed it.

And for a 1973, movie? 474? For a movie that old, there's a lot to appreciate about it. And although it didn't necessarily resonate with me as much as I would like to in my own personal experience, I did get quite a lot of enjoyment out of researching

and looking up other critics and filmmakers talking about the film. it gave me some some extra appreciation for it there's things that i like about it yeah this is like this is like an acclaimed movie by uh like critics oh yeah i know mark comody kermode kermode kermode like he loves it um like a lot of editors like look to this as like one of the finest pieces of editing ever i guess it's like groundbreaking the way he like you know made associations with cuts and stuff like that uh you see a lot of that like the filmmakers use that now. I think of the guy who directed Wild and like Dallas Byers Club. I forgot his name. Do you know his name? Doesn't matter. No. I know who it is, but the name doesn't matter. Yeah, but it's something, yeah. And this is like, a lot of the skies movies are like this, Nicholas Rogue. Have you guys seen anything else for me? I don't think I have. I've seen the witches. You've seen what? You did the witches, right? Roll Dome adaptation. Maybe. I haven't seen that one. The only other movie I've seen.

from him this performance, which is like the editing is very similar. Like it's very hectic and I don't want to say choppy, but at first you're you're like, oh, what the fuck is going on? Did you guys feel that in the opening scene?

I actually one of the videos that I watched after was on the Criterion channel. They actually interviewed the editor of the film and he was talking about how when he went into this approach, he used a very kind of non-traditional method where he intentionally would, you know, leave certain

shots going on for longer than they should in comparison to other films that he's edited or, you know, depending on how much room is given with the shots that he has to work with. I really enjoyed the editing during the phone call scene when he finds out that his wife is in England and how it's just like these bizarre. close-ups, like on her mouth, on lines that, you know, traditionally you wouldn't expect to cut to a close-up. Like, it did have a very kind of like... And it was unexpected.

Like, you never knew when a cut was coming or how it was going to be. He would, like, cross the line a lot. The 180 line. It was very, like... Uncomfortable in a way. Intentionally made you uneasy and uncomfortable. Yeah. It was, I think, very effective. There was a lot of, like, quick cuts, stuff like that.

Yeah, I did enjoy the editing for the most. part for sure one criticism i would have about it though is i did feel like as it gets closer to the end and he's chasing the dwarf in the red coat um it's it's already so incredibly obvious looking at the reflection in the water what it's what it's relating to i don't think we needed to to fade back to the the incident with his child you know like sometimes it made it a little too obvious and even watching. Yeah, I feel like that's just like a dated thing. Yeah. I think just movies back then, like people weren't as, uh, they couldn't put the pieces together as much. During that, that interview, he was talking about how, how subtle a lot of the clues were. And although,

yeah, that's very true. There are many instances of subtle clues in that film, especially, you know, the amount of times that we see like the funeral barge and, you know, the breaking of the glass and all that. breaking glass. He did mention the he was talking about the conversation in the diner where they first meet the crazy sisters and he was saying like

oh yeah normally the audience won't even expect that this brooch will come into play later he could just be looking at the brooch and I kind of you know watching that was just like eh you did a close up you know like like yeah there's a lot of red

herrings in this yeah but but like the close-up itself is just like the film is literally telling you that it will come into play later or at least be shown again so in some ways I very much appreciate the subtlety in other ways I wish it was more subtle but like you said it is another product of its time 1970s so

you can't really expect it to be like too subtle in a way well that's what I kept doing is comparing it two other films from the 70s that I love and just not being able to pass off certain things that I just thought maybe it was just because it was so out there for the time you know so unconventional just so experimental in a lot of ways as a piece of filmmaking like it does pay off for what they were going for but it's so sort of sporadic and and mad in terms of how it's put together I think it works for in terms of like a technical achievement for the time with a lot of interesting technique. But, I mean, the story isn't that interesting to me. The characters aren't. And, you know, it's just, yeah, it really didn't do it for me.

I'm not entirely sure way. I'm, like, halfway between you guys, honestly. Like, I agree with both of you. Yeah, I can totally understand that. Yeah. That other movie he made, The Witches, is it like this? Like, is it as unconventional as this? God, it's been a very long time since.

I've seen it. It's very creepy and weird, but I think because it's based on a role dull book and is way more for children, it's obviously super toned down in comparison. It's very odd though still. Nothing like this, because it's way more modern,

I think. Yeah, because the only other thing I saw from him was performance again, and performance is like a crazy drug trip movie. So, like, imagine this movie fucking like 10 times more chaotic, and that's what performance is. I was actually thinking of recommend in that maybe, but I'll add it to my watch list.

That's really far out there. Ooh, cool. Something I love about this movie, too, is the setting. Mick Jagger. Oh, yeah, Mick Jagger's in it. Yeah, it's fucking awesome. But something I love about this movie is the setting, where it's, like, set in this romantic city,

and yet they shoot it in a way to make it fucking creepy, and they go in all these alleyways where, like, I've been to Venice before, so I know, like, all the landmarks, but they always shot in, like, these claustrophobic. alleyways that are like off to the side of the city that tourists don't really like explore and it made it feel so like like otherworldly and creepy especially with the whole like series of murders happening yeah this is this is not a good place to be when there's a serial killer going around you know yeah and thematically it fits the movie too because it's like this they're trying to like rekindle their love and their romance and their marriage so they go to

romantic city but they can't escape it like the city's still a fucking shithole and it there's constantly like warnings on like walls that the city is sinking and that it's done for because you know venice is a sinking city and like by the year 2100 will probably be gone under the ocean sorry sorry oh well but do you guys think it works as a horror movie then um yeah did it scare you I mean, it's like, it's scare, I don't know about scare, but like something I love about horror movies or like something like this is it's very confusing and very, you don't know what to make of it when you first see it. Like there's this whole like aspect of it that Donald Sutherland's character might be psychic and that he's like ignoring his psychic abilities. And you're like, what is that? And what does that have to do with anything?

And it's like this beautiful puzzle that you have to solve. And I find that kind of creepy. Well, I like the foreshadowing and the imagery of it all. But things like that where you said, what is that all about? At the end of it, I'm just like, okay, so maybe he was psychic, I guess. Okay. Yeah. It made me actually appreciate Antichrist a hell of a lot.

more. It's a super similar premise, isn't it, with the loss of a child, something so tragic, and then the rest of the film dealing with grief and how people respond differently to it. Yeah, I feel like grief was much better expressed in Antichrist, that's for sure. Yeah, yeah. Like, there was something somewhat detached about the way... I just didn't buy that they had gone through something so traumatic because of how normal they were acting, you know? I don't know if it was the time jump.

Yeah, again, that was another disconcerning thing about it, too. There's this whole theory that the sun might have pushed the daughter into the lake. And that's like, you never really see the sun after that point. And you're like, so what the fuck's going on there? And you never really find out. Like, I don't feel this, like, disconnect that you did. I related to both of their characters a lot, whether they're names John and, uh, what the hell is Julie?

Julie Christie's character? What was her name? No, keep the IMDB open. Mother? Mother? Yeah, the mother. I'll think of it at some point. But yeah, they felt like a real couple. One of the best scenes in the movie,

like this iconic scene is the sex scene in this. But even like before, when they were just walking around naked, talking to each other, Donald Southern ones like brushing his teeth naked and he hunches over the same. I like that, yeah. Yeah, like they felt like a real fucking couple.

Yeah, I love that about it. Yeah, when they're naked it was, but I know the sex scene's really famous. and infamous, but again, to me, it was like a couple of people who have, like, never had sex before trying to... Dude, I didn't feel that at all. I felt it was very believable. They were, like, changing...

Well, because, like, sex scenes and movies, is, like, they're in one position, and they fade to, like, the next position or whatever. And this, you see, like, them awkwardly, like, turning each other over and shit like that. It was very believable. And it was graphic without being, like, pornographic. I didn't really have much nudity, you know? It was very classy. I was doing some reading afterwards, and apparently that's the first thing the leads actually filmed. Oh, really?

Yeah, the first scene they did, yeah, because they just wanted to get out of the way. Supposedly it was a spontaneous thing, like idea from the director to, because he wanted the scene because otherwise he said something like there'd just be too many scenes of those characters arguing. Yeah, like they wouldn't feel like a... couple. They'd just be pissed at each other the whole time. It got this vibe that it was kind of off in that scene. So then reading that it was like, oh, that's probably why.

Like, it's just these two strangers who have just met and then have to roll around and be naked with each other. I just didn't buy it. Wow. Okay. Yeah, once again, I'm, you know, taking kind of the middle ground here. I do, when I watched that scene, honestly, like, it's, I, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, It felt really cheesy. Just the music especially was kind of what added to that. But afterwards, you know, reading about it and hearing other people talk about it, I can get it.

You know, I understand why people appreciate it. And I understand for the time period, you know, it was fairly groundbreaking to show not just seductive sexuality, but sexuality from a couple that has been together for many years. Oh, yeah. It almost got an X rating. Yeah. They had to cut, in some countries, they had to cut the sex scene entirely. Oh, wow. Because it was too graphic.

I think it's rated an X in the UK. Oh, really? Oops. Yeah, there's a lot about it that, that I watched it, and my initial reaction is, you know, it's, it feels really cheesy. But hearing other people talk about it, it's like, yeah, I can totally understand. and relate to how people appreciate it. And appreciate it myself, too. But just, I guess, the initial experience,

or I don't know, like, even if I watch it again, like, there's parts of the film that are going to feel cheesy no matter what. Like, you know, when he's running around and there's, like, a man screaming from the distance, and it zooms in on his face. Like, it was kind of comical to me. Like, just the scream, like, the zooms in this works.

It was really funny. And like the death at the end, she's like, no, no, no, chop. Like, that was hilarious to me. I know, I know. I don't want to break your heart here, but it was, it was just like, it was very unintentionally comical in many places in the film. And it might just be like a time period thing. But at the same time, then I think of other films like, I don't know, older films like Pass of Glory, you know, in the 1950s. And all I'm thinking is, oh yeah, it's going for something totally different.

But like I feel like so many older films, I'm making so many excuses for them because of the time period. But there's plenty of examples where I don't have to do that. And that's, you know, part of where the criticism comes into play. And I don't know. Like, I'm trying to rationalize what they should have done to prevent me from feeling that. And I guess it's just a personal preference thing. Yeah. It's just the movie's set in a way more heightened reality than like, I don't know, Antichrist. Not saying Antichrist is like realistic, but definitely it wants to get more of a hopeless emotion out of you than I think this does. So, and I also think like a big theme of the movie is the fact that Donald Sutherland's character is trying to like literally ignore his grief. Both of them are. And he tries to like bury his head in his work. And that doesn't really work out.

and that's what ends up getting him fucking killed because he's like ignoring his wife and his kid and all these psychic premonitions and he's like oh let me just focus on my work and be logical about this whole situation and that's what does him in so like I don't know I didn't feel the cornyness

I just felt that the movie was not trying to be realistic in any way it was just in this heightened exaggerated world it's kind of like darkly like darkly comedic in a way if that makes sense. Not that I thought anything was funny but it was like it was just so

bizarre it's unsettling some of it, you know? It's like fantasy a lot of the time. Yeah. Yeah, like a fable or something. I really enjoyed the scene where he was like hanging from the rope in the in the church or whatever

where you like almost died. Yeah, I really enjoyed that scene. Didn't he actually do that? There's shots in there where it's like wow, he's actually doing that. Like, I don't know how they film the whole thing, but, like, there's certain shots where it's like, wow, that's very realistic. And I loved that, um, that like kind of lens flare circle turning into the crazy lady

almost as if it were kind of like a crystal ball kind of thing. She's just laughing. And in a way, like, I love the filmmaking associated with that. Like, I thought that that was super creative. and really cool to watch. But in a way, I don't know how I feel about the red herrings as a whole and just showing these like sisters laughing

and it's like, you know, misdirection of what their intentions are, I guess. You know, I can see that adding to the experience for a lot of people, but I don't know. But that's the thing. Maybe it's not a red herring. Maybe they did cause that for some reason. And like they were lying at the end.

Like, you just don't know. This whole thing is like, this giant mystery and like the more you try to think about it the more it it like almost makes less sense the more you think about it in a good way am i making sense i guess that's where we differ because for me it's just more frustrating like with the reveal at the end of the the dwarf right it's like that's the the payoff for that setup it was really funny to me i mean yeah it's just a lot of little things like that i'm like right down the middle at first, like, I really did want to really love this movie.

At first I thought, shit, this is really interesting what they're doing here. But as it builds on top of itself, like, it just became more and more just disinteresting to me. I just couldn't get attached to anything. Like, when, like, the mechanics of the film, the only thing that is keeping me engaged and interested, and the plot isn't interesting, and the characters just aren't convincing to me, what is there left? Well, is there anything you liked about it? I liked a lot, yeah.

Like, I'd like nearly every technical element. I like the way they tell the story. I just don't think I'd like the story. Or I don't know if it is just how old it is, because I'm pretty sure this was an independent movie for the time. So, I mean, the budget and the technology they had available would be extremely limited for what we have now. So it's very difficult to put yourself in,

in the position of a filmmaker back in the 70s. So for the stuff they were pulling off in this film, especially for an independent movie, was impressive. And I did like a lot of the way it was shot and, of course, edited and all that. But there was too much that just pulled me out, and it did feel really dated a lot of the time for me, things that were supposed to be horrific or shocking to me a lot of the time. because of technical or how old it was reasons just weren't working.

I don't think it's an age thing. I think it's just the style of the director. You reckon? Because I, one thing that kept pulling me out was the audio sounded terrible to me. A lot of like weird, I don't know if it was just my setup or what, but you could really tell when there was like ADR and I don't know, like it was in different levels.

There's some moments like that, yeah. If I had any issue. It would be that. Some of the idiotic... But again, that's like an age thing, I forgive. Like, it's a trade-off, because some of these... Like, you have to shoot it in Venice, and you have to shoot it on location.

And I guess sometimes they just couldn't get the sound equipment on these fucking boats because it was too loud, or, you know, there's the ocean. It's too loud or something like that. So they had to ADR it. Like, I understand. I don't know, man, because, like, six years later, like, Alien came out.

Oh, yeah, six years later. And Alien's not an independent movie. movie and aliens not shot on location in Venice I know but it's like everything horrific that I'm after for like a horror thriller was achieved a lot better in other movies in from the decade that's totally fair did you guys notice the similarities to hereditary yeah it did yes yes a lot of echoes of other horror movies in this yeah I believe the director of hereditary cited this film as one of his inspirations I think that's why it was on my watch list

because I watched the featurette on the hereditary Blu-ray. Yeah, I think that's what's so good about it. It's like the same thing that happened with Jacob's Ladder where the film's okay, but the way it's impacted the industry and filmmakers who saw it when they were young and it was influential to them

and how it affected their art, I think, is what makes this an important piece of filmmaking. My only issue is I don't think it stands up compared, because we do have things like hereditary now. You know, we do have these great horror films that do hold up in every aspect and The technology of our time just is able to elevate it, you know? Yeah, but who's to say 30 years from now that hereditary will be dated and that shit? Like it's hard to put yourself in that mindset exactly, yeah, because I mean

I'm willing to bet something like hereditary will age better than something like this purely because of just how advanced we are compared to the 70s in terms of filmmaking technology fucking savages I feel like the 70s vibe does work well for horror movies I feel like I would like to see more horror movies told in that sort of either the the zooms look very 70s or like the audio like I like having things being a bit dated I feel like I feel like that adds to the experience a lot and I feel like that helped with the opening scene for sure. I feel like if you did a shot for shot remake of the opening scene today, it wouldn't be as effective in my personal experience. I love that piano note. It's very like the piano notes. It's like very like a child wrote it almost. It's like a regular, I don't know,

I'm not the music guy, so I can't describe it the best. But you know what I'm saying. Yeah, they were actually talking on one of the special features saying that they had to re-record the piano intro because it sounded too professional and the goal was to make it sound like it was like a child reading off of sheet music for the first time like it was someone learning the music as they're playing it sort of thing so that's why you get these like weird pauses every now and then yeah I like that a lot there's definitely a lot to it like it's very thoughtful in terms of a lot of little details you know lots of lots of foreshadowing Yeah, exactly. I mean, I don't want to be like this negative, you know, but it's just how I felt. I don't want to bullshit just because it's like an important film or whatever. It's important to be honest. Oh, yeah, I totally understand what you're saying.

But if I feel it, I mean, because there are plenty. It's not like I just hate old films full stop. There are plenty of films from decades ago that I absolutely adore. Oh yeah, I would never accuse you of that like oh You don't like old movies My brother was watching this with me And he was fucking bored out of his mind 20 minutes And he's like I'm getting the fuck out of here

Like red dead Like I totally understand Like this is not for everybody And I'm guessing like some commenters will be the same way But I also feel like people will spin it the opposite way Where it's like you know This is super important and you're just Yeah people drink off to it too

You're not understanding it Yeah Yeah like oh Alex is in a true cinefine file he doesn't understand the point of. Look how we cut the scene. Don't you understand? The editing is like the supposed to like it. Shut the fuck up. And that's why I like it is because I know I'm supposed to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. How about you get your head out of your ass and understand that people have other opinions. Fucking assles. So it's always really annoying when you watch like a classic and then you don't feel, you don't line up with how everyone else

feels about it necessarily. Yeah. And you even appreciate the things that everyone else appreciates. Yeah. Like that. I totally see. why one would get a lot out of it, but personally, I just, I just didn't. There's not much more to it. I like the same things you liked about it, but it didn't affect me in the same way in my experience. I felt no emotion throughout the whole thing, aside from, this is kind of old. This would be a pretty boring show if we all felt the same thing. Yeah.

Did, uh, did you guys feel as though, I don't know, I, I, the, I don't know if this is the version I watched or if this is every version, but like, there was so much dialogue in Italian that they didn't subtitle and I was kind of like starved for some sort of translation and I don't know like maybe that that's kind of the point is that you're supposed to be confused I guess but I don't know like the main character could understand right so I don't remember could he I don't remember if the main character spoke fluent Italian or not not fluent he knew the old word I believe yeah he understood enough to like talk to

that priest I love the priest character too, he like does nothing. Yeah. Same thing with the police chief. Yeah. It's like he tries to seek refuge in these things. There's a few useless characters. No, but I think that's the point again.

Oh no, I'm not disagreeing with that for sure. Oh yeah. Like if he tries to seek refuge for his grief in church and the law and they're all like, yeah, fuck you. And they cut to the priest at the end of the movie and he's like in bed and he just gets up and goes, eh, he goes back to sleep. Yeah. It was great. There's a lot about this film. that on paper and like hearing other people talk about it sounds amazing, but like the actual

experience itself to me, I wish I was able to feel those same things and take it more seriously, but it was a relatively cheesy kind of film for me. And I still liked it. I still appreciate it. But there's just parts about it that I wish I was able to take more seriously and on paper it's it's like oh wow this is what i should be experiencing from it and that sounds great but i didn't yeah on paper there should be something i i love man this is like such a good idea for a premise you know so it's so much to explore with this kind of idea um whether it be just the horror elements or just the grief stuff with the with the parents losing a child something so horrific like it's just so rife for storytelling but it just didn't tell me

Alex, did you feel as though the wife's emotion was a bit understated near the end? Yes. Yeah, I felt that way through most of the film, it was kind of weirdly understated. Maybe she's just being, maybe she's just really English and prim and proper. Like, people deal with grief differently, that's for sure. But at the same time, you know, if you're going to have that be a focal point of your film, I don't know. I just personally would prefer. to have a understated.

Yeah, I would like to see, like, a tear or something when she's mourning her husband, something. I don't know. I was fine with that. And, again, the image spoke way more than the performance itself. Like, she was very restrained, but, like, all around her was, like, weren't there, like, birds flying or some shit? There was, like...

John Wu. I don't remember exactly the image. I saw it a week ago. But I remember, like, there was all this stuff going around, and the shot itself was, like, beautiful and it conveyed the emotion just fine. See, I think that the performances might have been something that kind of bugged me a little bit. I just didn't buy that they were these people in this situation going through something so traumatic.

Yeah. You know, it just seemed to me like it's actors kind of reading lines about something sad, but it didn't have any of the weight to it to me. Well, because the thing takes place, I guess, months after the daughter died. Like they've had time to Cope with it, I guess So they do try to act Like they're trying to act normal

But it doesn't really pan out I think their argument scene was good too Yeah I thought there were elements Trickled in They never had like a payoff To make it work in terms of like If they were trying to be composed And their characters were

Okay we've we've been months Even maybe over a year or whatever us since this tragic event. We are composed now, well, we think we're composed, but maybe underneath there's something cracking a little bit. There's never a scene where that's really conveyed or displayed or shown in any way that displays that kind of anguish, you know? It's all sort of implied.

No, I think the argument scene conveys that. I think the end, although it's like more metaphorical, it's not literally the character's going through a realization, but like him getting killed because of his, carelessness and like his I guess his ego as oh there's no paranormal activity going on here my daughter's dead fuck that fuck all this I think that conveys it well too but so even with the I like the idea of his refusal to acknowledge his his grief kind of coming back to bite him but then but the whole dwarf thing is such a strange really funny reveal yeah I know it's like a a dwarf

Dwarf old woman. You're like, what the fuck? And they only do that because they needed an excuse to explain the girl, you know, looking like his daughter in the red coat or whatever. Yeah, that's an old woman. She's the serial killer. Yeah. But that was, you didn't expect it.

Like, who the fuck thought the movie was going to end like that with a dwarf fucking killing him? That works in a, that's crazy. I also wouldn't have expected the Bazinga guy underneath, you know, but that doesn't mean that. it wouldn't be funny. It doesn't enhance that character's like story or arc. It's just like a surprise. It's like, oh,

I never could have guessed that because it's just so bizarre. I think it totally enhances it. And it's set up from the beginning. She's in that picture. Yeah, the dwarf. See, that's the stuff I like with the foreshadowing of like it being almost like a prophecy or something or a self-fulfilling thing.

It's like doomed to happen. Time doesn't exist. Yeah, it's like this nonlinear story where he just makes, basically forces this horrible thing to happen to himself. I like that fragment. The end is built into the beginning. Yeah, that kind of thing. Have you guys seen the Wicker Man from the same year? I saw the Nicholas Cage version.

Yeah. No, not the bees! I like when he punches people. Did they get that scene out? that film's weirdly similar in a lot of ways to this one and I'm not really a big fan of that one and that's like a classic too hence it's been remade and has like a similar ending yeah oh wow same year just something of no exact same year really similar themes similar um story beats and stuff got a better IMDB rating interesting oh that's i think it's slightly more famous yeah i don't know

yeah, it definitely is. They were talking about remaking this, and, like, there was a huge fucking thing of, like, no, don't do it. Yeah. First of all, there's no reason to, because I think, like, you think this is dated. Imagine them making the same fucking movie now, like you were saying, Adam. It wouldn't work. But, yeah, it's precious.

We don't need it, because we have hereditary, and we have all the things that are inspired. Yeah, other movies have explored the same topic, just, you know, told different ways. It's like this director's way of tackling the subject of grief, and it's confusing and sad, and try to find answers and you can't, and then you're dead too. Buy a dwarf and a red coat. Got him. Awesome comedic relief.

Well, we can agree to disagree, and I'll just be the filthy centrist here. Thank God I'm not the centrist this time. All right. Should we give our ratings? is there anything else to say? I think we bet. Wrapped it up.

I guess I could go first. Yeah, go and you go first. Movie is a wonderful puzzle, and you can put it together any way you want. Acting's great, I think. John and Laura felt like a real couple plot. I liked. There were lots of twists and turns.

I think the music was great. I remember you said it was corny in some parts, Adam. I didn't feel that. I think it's all around an excellent movie. Like a five out of five, I'd give it. But yeah. I understand where you guys are coming from Totally

What about you? Well, yeah I'm glad I watched it I'm right down the middle on it I respect it way more than I actually enjoy watching it I was honestly quite disinterested at times

because I just couldn't get attached to anything aside from how technically impressive it was for the period it was released in but I'd appreciate it more probably if I was in like a an art installation or something and it was showing clips with big chunks of text saying back in 1973 this is how this was achieved and isn't isn't this great i'm so yeah it is i'm going to go

watch my other movie now that i can get it um yeah i'd give it a i think i'd give it a three star i've sounded really negative but yeah three out five stars all right um yeah there's a lot that i appreciated about it. It didn't hold my attention throughout the entire film, but there are parts where it was legitimately interesting. I appreciated a lot of the filmmaking. I appreciated the portrayal of their relationship at specific points, loved the opening scene, loved the end 40 minutes of the movie aside from the death scene at the end, really. Yeah, I would give it a 7 out of 10. And I'll probably see it again at some point. We did it.

We did a good job defending it though, Ralph, because it's way harder when it's just one v2. You know what it's like... Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially when it's something that you really like, when people are saying a negative, what more can you really say?

If you just completely disagree, then, well, I didn't feel that way, so... Yeah, absolutely. Hey, we all watched it, and we all liked it and appreciated it somewhat. Yeah. So, nothing to be mad about, although the Reddit likes us fighting.

we can argue over the Pokemon movie I'll lie and say it's good or something 10 out of 10 it's perfect should we go into our questions let's do it so if you want to leave your questions for us to answer on the next side on a cast

head over to the Reddit page where Ralph will pin a funny thread to leave your questions in So the first question comes in from Why Finn F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, F, who says, This question is a punishment for Ralph's audio mistake in the last episode, What are the best performances you've ever seen that have been done by a child? That's the question.

All right. I don't know. When that kid in Schindler's list who had in the toilet, that was pretty convincing. Okay, okay. That's about it. Every child in a Mikhail Hanukkah film, the kid in funny games, every kid in the white ribbon, he gets so much out of the actors, the kid in, uh, oh, what's his newest film called? Happy end. Yeah.

Like all those, every child he works with, he is able to work with them in a way that he gets so much out of their performance and always fantastic. and it really just goes to show like how lazy some directors can be in directing children where they're just like ah it's kids who's gonna give a shit you know and a lot of people do feel that way they're like ah it's a kid you know but I if there's something that's unrealistic

that takes me out of the movie where I don't buy that it's happening it affects me whether it's a child or not so I blame more the casting agents for that because sometimes they get these kids and they're like either the son of some famous producer, the daughter. Nepotism. I know this actor. Yeah, nepotism.

Oh, this girl's a pretty young girl. Let's put her in nine lives. Sometimes it's just to be cute. This girl can't act. Yeah. What a cute kid. Yeah, just to be cute. Oh, it's a cute kid.

Who's not going to have a real career as soon as they stop being cute. You're setting them up for a life of pain. But the kid from E.T. The original E.T., I forgot. Oh, yeah, yeah. But he's fantastic. Usually Spielberg has good kid actors. A.I.

that kid's really great. Probably because he's good with people. Yeah. Because he understands people. Yeah, you've got to be patient, you know, and be willing to adapt your direction style. The kid's just got to be talented, too. And that too, yeah.

Yeah, and that's very hard to find. I mean, there aren't many talented adult actors, let alone fucking kid actors. I think the kid from mid-90s did a good job. Oh, yeah, that kid. I don't know if she'd count as a kid, but the lead from Pans Labyrinth, Do you think she's young enough to be...

Oh yeah, she was a kid? Yeah, in that movie she was a kid. I don't know how old she was, but not an adult. She was good, so... That would be my answer. Yeah. Sometimes they say these kids are kids meanwhile, they're like 18, 20.

There's that show Ozark. There's a girl in it. Like, the daughter's supposed to be like 15. She looks like she's fucking like 23. Yeah, she does. Get out of here. But Jonah, Jonah's good on that show. Yeah.

There's nothing worse than when a, when kid actors like, bring down the show, you know, with every scene that we're in. Like, I've been watching Mad Men lately and the kid actors at start are so shit. That's definitely one of my criticisms with the haunting on House Hill. The kids take up so much space in that fucking show and they're all awful. I feel like, yeah, if you're writing something, just leave them out, you know, if you want to have a minute of your time.

Yeah, well, the thing with kids, too, they have to talk like kids. It's like kids talk differently than adults. They're way more immature. And usually it sounds like fucking 40-year-old people writing dialogue for kids. It's really distracting. That's a show where every character sounded like the writer. And it was so clear. Like when this little girl is reading her lines, it's so clear that she doesn't even understand what she's saying and she's just reading lines.

Like you have no comprehension of what you're talking about. 13 reasons why is like that. like, oh, 2001, so boring, dude. Like, oh, yeah. You dig on focy horses. Give me a break. Yeah, that's just embarrassing. B-Dog 7171 asks,

How much do you get recognized in public? Any interesting tales? A decent amount. I'd say like once a week, like once a month. Well, I'd like, yeah, four times a month. Oh, look at you. Is the big shot over here?

I mean, I was in Boston, which is like a college town. A lot of our audiences like college kids. So it makes sense. I just saw Bill Burr in Madison Square Garden, and there was some dude who recognized me. I took a picture with him. They're always nice.

I don't have any stories. You guys are great. I don't leave the house much, but when I do, I get recognized a decent amount. Depending on the setting, on the scenario, if it's just like a regular day outside, usually not as much. but if I'm at a film festival obviously if I'm at a convention obviously the most fan interactions that I've had from like I guess like per capita of the the amount of people that were there would be when I went to Seattle for that new Neil Breen movie that was pretty much just a theater full of people that watch my videos so yeah that was fun yeah there was a comedy show where I saw Joe Rogan but it was only play

playing in Abbotsford, which is like a bit of a drive away. And I have a friend that lives out there, and I was just going to crash at his house after. But after the show, it was like, oh, fuck. Like, everybody's trying to catch a cab. I'm stranded because we don't even have Uber yet in, uh, in, in BC, which is just so ridiculous at this point. Oh, yeah. We're like the last, Vancouver is like the last major city in North America that doesn't

have ride sharing. It's embarrassing. It's so embarrassing. And, uh, I just waited outside and then. A fan recognized me and I was like, hey, can I catch a ride? And they gave me a ride to my friend's house. That's so cool. Yeah, that's fun.

Gotta use that shit. Not usually around in my small town, but when I go into the city, there's a chance of it happening. Normally, events, like Ralph, you said, when you went to see a comedian. I've been to a couple bands where I've been recognized, which is pretty cool. That's great. And I'm always more impressed because I, I don't show my face many places, so they have to, like, I was going to say, like, how do they recognize you? They usually figure it out based on who I'm with.

Oh, okay. Because you do, like, the JAR Media Podcasts, right? Yeah, so I've got, like, friends who also have an internet presence, so, and they're quite recognizable. Sometimes it's as soon as I talk. People, like, nobody will notice it's me, but then they'll hear my voice, and they'll be like, wait, are you? because it's like that that can just do it I've got a pretty distinct voice I think so I feel bad sometimes because like I really

I feel weirded out interacting with people I don't know it's just like a natural thing so I'm like hi I really love to meet you and it's awesome to meet you but I'm just weirded out because it's just weird to meet some stranger who's like obsessed with like watching me for 20 hours yeah they know like they know you so well

yeah and you know nothing about them The way I feel about it is if I can do like a small thing that's like you know just a minor inconvenience for myself that's going to make this other person's day then fuck it Of course I'm gonna do that. Oh yeah I love meeting yeah. It's just like this natural weird reaction I have There's sometimes I'll get like a tweet from someone being like hey were you at this thing? I was too scared to talk to you But I don't know like I yeah I have that too yeah just throwing that out there if if I'm not I I am I'm I'm I'm I'm the last person to like get upset or give a shit if you're gonna ask for a picture. So don't worry about it.

You want to say hi. Go for it. I don't mind. I'll sign your chest. I'll do anything. I love you guys. 18 plus. Yeah, 18 plus.

That's right. If you're over 18, I'll sign your chest. Thank you for adding that. You're welcome. I was at Universal and my brother, my brother was wearing the release the drone shirt and like a guy walked up to him and like oh is that the Ralph the movie maker shirt you watch Ralph the movie maker and then my brother just points at me and the dude fucking like shit his pants it was hilarious whoa that's good yeah he's like oh my god it's right there

uh I love it mm-hmm next question no let's just wait here let's just sit in silence for a minute I was waiting see if anyone gonna jump in fling it the old friend uh the the lecture says Adam and Alex are you aware that Ralph has cracked his brother's head open what does that mean what did you do to your poor brother

he was like two and I was like I think six or five something and we played and he fell over and cracked his head he brought him the hospital that's it I didn't even know that did I mention that at some point yeah I was going to say I remember

that's crazy you might want to message this guy and be like you stalking me bunch of weirdos To answer your question, no, I didn't know that. Yeah, I didn't know. Well, now you know, no, he's half the battle. I'll be careful around you.

He's all right. You know my brother's taller than me now? Really? Yeah, he's 16. Yeah, and we know, we knew from when we were young. Like, my doctor's always like, your brother's going to be taller than you around. Yeah, most people are taller than you. And now we, yeah, well, no, no, that's not true.

But my brother's taller than me, for sure. I think it's gonna be funny when someone gets like a picture of us in public and he's like, he looks like my fucking dad or something. Anyway. Okay, real question. From 64 Sam B. Who asks, what's the worst character in any movie? Oh, God. Worst character.

That's hard. Hi, everyone. high five from the emoji movie yeah that's a good one James Corden I find quite insufferable already so him being an emoji is just like cherry on top for that one God damn see you know his Joker

yeah that's an awesome answer I'm thinking like iconic like if you're going to say worst characters there's probably like like a guy from after last season or like one of Neil Breen's movies you know but like I'm trying to think like actual main stream real movies yeah if you wanted to go with like silly ones like um what's that guy in the room who just keeps showing up cool yeah yeah denny yeah that character that's a couple the

couple that keeps having sex on their couch just sneaks in and just has sex on their couch i feel like it's an easy um or like a low pot shot but i mean jar jar oh like people he he is worse than you remember. Like, I know it's been done to death, but you kind of forget how fucking terrible that character is. Yeah. He genuinely is next level embarrassing. In that same vein, I would, I would say, like, any attempt at a comic relief character that just comes off as annoying, you know, like, I would try to watch an old Don Bluth movie, like, oh, Balto, this is pretty good. And then those fucking polar bears show up. And I'm like, oh, fuck. Stop. So annoying. Well, did you see Treasure Planet?

No. That Disney movie? No. There's this robot in it called Ben that shows up, voiced by Martin Short, I think. God damn. He just screams every line. It's like, this film was pretty good until you showed up, man. I feel that way about Mulan.

The Malau movie is pretty good, but Eddie Murphy's in it as a dragon. Eddie Murphy's like, yo, yo, yo, what's going on here? He's like jumping around. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm trying to enjoy this movie, and Eddie Murphy keeps, like, annoying me. Mooshu, that's it. Oh, Mooshu. I am a pretty bad main character from a YMS review I'm working on.

Joe Doucette from the old boy remake. Pretty poorly developed and expressed character. Somebody sent me a link, by the way, Ralph, saying that you were, like, defending the remake? Is this? Yeah, I don't think it's that bad, but we can talk about that. Oh, yeah, for sure. That's a whole discussion. I'll, uh, I was.

See it again, too. My review will be out, and I think that I will persuade you in some way. Mm-hmm. I also delete, I think I deleted that video. Yeah. I saw that when I was younger. Yeah. And I didn't say it was as, uh, it's not as good as the original, obviously.

Um, one more character I want to mention, since we mentioned the Star Wars prequels, I think Anakin Skywalker's way worse than Jar Jar Jar Jar Binks. Because, like, at least Jar Jar Jor Banks is like some fucking random character that no one cares about, like, oh, you can just ignore it. But he hates... That Palpatine gets into power. Yeah, yeah. Okay, that too, sure.

But, like, Anakin Skywalker, this is the prequel series about how Darth Vader became Darth Vader. And we want to see how Anakin Skywalker became this, like, super awful guy. And it's like, oh, he was a whiny bitch the entire time. He was just a whiny, whiny, whiny bitch. And then he got in a robot suit. And it's like, wow, that was fucking Darth Vader. That's all there was to him. Like, that's insulting.

He got that way because he hated sand so much. I guess everywhere. He hated sand and Obi-Wan's like, Enoch, why don't you listen to me? Because I'm your mentor. And he's like, I don't want you. I want to go to Pad Day. Fucking asshole.

All right. Want to do one more? Yeah. Grudoka H.D.H.G. says, when judging a documentary, how does misinformation factor into your ratings?

Does it depend on the kind of style the documentary is going for? Yeah. Like Michael Moores are very biased toward his position, but like, that's the point. This is his personality, right?

But if something's trying to be objective, like, I don't know. I saw a really, really bad one recently that fits into this that completely just ruins the entire integrity of the documentary.

It's called, what's it? What the health? Oh, yeah. of this. It's like this vegan propaganda thing. It's it's abysmal like the the how

one-sided and false a lot of the information. Yeah. There was definitely an age where I was a lot less critical about information and documentaries where I could watch something like what the bleep do we know and I'm like oh what?

So it turns out that you can judge energy from water and feel emotions in their molecular structure and then as I get older I'm like wait what they were just lying to me if it's like comedic then it's definitely not an issue they're trying to prove a point or something

but like yeah especially now where we live in the age of you know fake news and alternative facts and you know all that bullshit people say that all the time you can't trust anybody everyone has a political bias one way or the other. Like I feel people just want an unbiased look at a topic. Yeah. I think if that vegan documentary had actually been unbiased and not been trying to push, you know, one thing or the other, people would have reacted to it much stronger. That's the thing.

There's a big need for it. Any good that would come from it is lost when you totally ruin your messaging like that. Like if you want to persuade the other side, you have to try to be honest and speak with them in a way that they would understand. Yeah. And, you know, acknowledge. everything has causes its and negatives to it. Yeah, you have to acknowledge the criticisms of your own side if you want to get anywhere. Right. I feel. And there's a lot of people who don't do that on a lot of topics, whether it be drugs or politics or anything.

And it's it furthers the divide between people because everyone just feels like everyone's a liar. And it makes people distrustful. It's very sad. Yeah. Are you guys familiar with Louis Theroux in any of his documentaries? Uh, yeah. because I really like the way he does it because he just plays dumb, which kind of fools his subjects into like a false sense of security.

And he's like totally imbiased for the most part. And it just gets like a genuine reaction. And I feel like it's a way better way of doing it if you want that kind of... Yeah. That style of documentary as opposed to just spinning facts. Mm-hmm. The mockumentary style takes advantage of that too. Like Borat's the best example where he just acts like this foreign, you know,

Oh, I'm from a country where everyone's sexist and my wife is, you know. My wife. And then, like, yeah, my wife. He has a donkey and whatever. High five. But then, like, all these people feel comfortable around. I'm like, oh, so this guy's cool. I can talk about how I hate gay people and whatever.

And it's really fucking sick what people say when they're that comfortable. And that's interesting. We're trying to get that done here. Yeah. God, what do you say? Actually, gay people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's fucking crazy.

And he actually said that. And then there was those guys in the RV who were talking about, like, assaulting women or something. It was horrible. And then, like, when the movie came out, everybody tried to sue them. Like, everybody who was in the movie.

Because they thought it was like some fucking asshole from Kazakhstan. Like, no one was ever going to see this movie. And it turns out the movie made like $200 million. You signed the release. You were aware you were on camera, saying these things.

Sorry. Have you watched Sasha Baron Cohen's new show? Yes. I've seen all of it. I haven't yet, no. Oh, you have seen all. I've seen some of it. It's been out for a while.

I've seen like three or four episodes. Like the shit he gets these people to do is fucking crazy. Yeah. That like state representative from Georgia shouting the N-word over and over. Oh my God. America with his pants down. You're gay. You're gay.

So funny. Yeah. So funny. He made like a fake Kizanera where he had like a bunch of pills. That was the best. Oh, that was one of my favorite. That was fucking hilarious. And he called the police.

And these guys are here dressed up in like, like, two-toos. They have drugs and condoms everywhere. Fake vagina. That was so good. I love cringe. I love uncomfortable moments like that, where it's just like the reality sets in on them. The cops are there. They're like, wait, I guess this does look really bad what we're doing, doesn't it?

But they don't realize it until like the last fucking second. And it's not just a... You realize it before? It's not just a commentary on people in politics and how individuals interact, but it's also a commentary on what people will do under the premise that it's for a television program. What people will do in front of a camera

because someone is suggesting that they do it. And you put this faith in the other person, and it's like, well, they're telling me to do this. And, you know, I guess this is what I'm supposed to be doing. and some people it's a lot easier to get them to do it. He says it's in the guys of like an educational, like that one character. He's like a gun educational guy.

He has like a show where he talks about martial arts and all the, yeah. So they're like, oh, this guy is cool. I can put on these pussy panties, no problem. Yeah. Yeah. Good show. I guess, yeah, good show. I guess that's it.

Yeah. I guess we did it. All right. You did it. Another one for the books. Somebody has a film to recommend. So I guess it's mine this time. I guess so.

I wanted to recommend one that I know for a fact we've all seen. Yes. But I just really want to have a discussion on. Perfect. I hope you guys have not seen it recently. And Ralph actually mentioned it earlier in the show. And I've talked about wanting to discuss this movie in previous episodes. But I really want to talk about AI.

Okay. Oh, yeah. I really want to talk about AI. AI Artisan Intelligence. That's a very choice. That'll provoke some interesting discussion for sure. Yeah, I've only seen it once around the time when it came out, so I was super young. Probably like eight or nine or something.

Never revisited it. And I know it's like a controversial, not controversial, but it's polarizing. Yes. Yeah, for sure. In terms of what people think about it. And what Adam, you've got it rated as like a six and Ralph, you've got it as like a four. So it'll be interesting to see. if that changes or lowers or whatever.

So yeah, that's my choice. I'll watch it again. Let's do it. We did it. All right. Thank you, everybody, for watching this episode of Sardonicast. If you would like to support the show and if you would like to listen to these episodes early, $2 a month,

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That's a pretty good idea, right? Because we're going to spoil the shit out of it. All right. Thank you, everybody. We love you. Cool cat loves you. Cool cat loves tragedies. Daddy Derek loves tragedies.

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