Sardonicast - Sardonicast 225: Resident Evil, All That Jazz

Episode Date: September 28, 2026

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Here we go. Three, two, one. Uh-oh, I think we just lost the family audience. That was a quote from Mars Needs Moms. I'm Adam from your movie Sex. This is Sardonicatatat. I'm Alex from I.E. And I was going to do that one too, so I'm going to switch to...

Oh, shit. You like jazz? I had to think on the spot. Sorry. I'm so sorry. I didn't think... There was like one other one. But I'll tell you.

I love when Roy Shider said that when he was pitching his show to the investors. Yeah, that's my favorite bit. Hi, I'm Jake from Man Gary Thing. I'm going to go with video games yelled enthusiastically at a moment in a film that could be all that jazz. It could be. It could be. And it was. It was.

I feel like I haven't seen you guys in like a year. It's been a while since we recorded. Yeah. So tipsful, huh? I mean, if you're using the English language correctly, you haven't seen me since like April. You can hear me. Well, I guess technically, physically. No, we don't record these with video, so I just hear too in disembodied voices.

Yeah. We're shy. Yeah, I forget that you are like physical beings that exist. I'm not. And not my hallucinations. I'm more than that. Yeah, you were cheating on us with TIF. How was Tiff?

It was great. It was a lot of fun. It's always, you know, it's kind of funny because I heard multiple people say this year, like, oh, it doesn't really seem like there's any, like, standouts at TIFs. Is there, like, any good movies? I'm like, okay, you don't understand. Like, like, there's, there's always great movies at Tiff. Like, Tiff always has, you know, stuff that did well at Con.

It always has tons of great premieres, Midnight Madness, shit. Like, yeah, there's always great stuff. just because there isn't like pre-established buzz. I feel like they just mean an Oscar race. Yeah. Yeah. Oscar race stuff. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, like it's just, so people go to TIF for different reasons. And that's what I love about it is that it has something for everybody. You know, it's it's somewhere in between, you know, Kahn,

which is super serious business only, invite only, industry only. Like, fucking like not allowed to go to the bathroom in some of the pop-up locations, have to wear fucking, black tie to the premieres at the certain... They're going to say diaper.

Yeah. Dyson screenings. Yeah. Diper and tucks. That's one end of the spectrum. And then another end of the spectrum might be like, I don't know, some like crazy horror audience focused like film festival or something, you know? Tiff has a nice blend of everything. It has indie foreign art house stuff.

It has like schlucky, campy, fun stuff. It has celebrity stuff You know If people want to go there Just for the fucking red carpet shit They can have fun gawking at Different celebrities And yeah

Fucking Well quick Q&A's Yeah Oh yeah No I'm shocked Were you there with Danny Boyle one With that trauma No I was at the screening after that

Right you just missed I did see the clip I did see the clip Someone yelled at him right Yeah Don't ever do that again and then he looks like very disturbed after. I mean, I get like, I think it's stupid that he used AI and apparently a very small amount of it in ink.

Did you see ink? Yes, I did. I just don't understand yelling at Danny Boyle because he seems like such a sweetie and he just doesn't really, it seems like he's just kind of ignorant about the subject. Yeah. No, I had a conversation about this with someone and basically my perspective is like, yes, he, shouldn't have used it and the way that he used it like you could maybe justify one of the uses the other one just like it looks like shit and there's no justification um but all in all it's like this is this is an old man and he you know like he he clearly just doesn't fully understand

the cultural like they're in entirely separate algorithms right you can't expect everybody to have all the same information he doesn't have internet he's still on facebook and yes he is a film maker, right? He doesn't understand how every piece of technology works. Who knows, like, who even made the prompt, right? Like, I don't, I don't know. I somehow doubt it was, like, literally him generating it, but... Right. It was something to do with making photographs, like, move, like animate photographs, right? Oh, yeah. That one, that one was, like, a terrible, terrible. It was only for, like, a second, but it was like, what the fuck? It was, like, close to the end of the movie. So it's in the film proper. It's not, like, in the end credits. Like, it's

actually. Oh yeah, it's in the movie. But so... That's kind of disappointing. That's not a way. His, his, uh, flashy, interesting editing style, um, you know, like high energy, just sometimes it'll like cut to something else for like half a second, you know?

Like, it's, it's like kind of a, not ADHD, but you know, like a very, very, almost overstimulating kind of experience. It's a good way. And just one of those things that it cuts to is like, fucking a bunch of men in a line in a black and white

photograph dancing and it's like they're animated but it's like really uncanny it's like you can tell something's wrong even if you didn't know it was AI it's just like ew ew what the fuck that's really annoying

especially like what the film is about like it's a story that needs to be told and more people need to know about that subject matter it was interesting but yeah that is a shame and then the other usage was a mice in two shots.

And those, one of them looked like maybe slightly off in a way where like I might have noticed something was wrong. I was already looking for these shots because I had heard about this before I saw the movie. The other one, like, I wouldn't have noticed anything was wrong with it. And so Danny had like a kind of a cheeky anecdote saying like, you know, PETA was was on his ass after 28 days later for the chimpanzees scene. And so he's like, okay, I said I'd never use animals in my movies again. And so it's like,

okay, I get it. And, you know, it's undeniably a lot more cost effective for someone to just fucking generate a prompt on a like a... Would you rather I abuse animals? That's kind of a shitty argument. Yeah, I'm just saying, like, in comparison to CG artists, like, if you're going to get something that, like, doesn't look like CG or whatever, like, you're going to have to spend a lot of money on it, you're going to have to coordinate. And, you know, like, we don't know what the budget is. And we would obviously prefer human artists, but, like, I don't know.

It's probably shots that didn't really need to exist, maybe, but. I imagine Danny Boyle seems like the type of person to be like, yeah, never doing that again because this is bullshit. The dealing with the backlash to this. I didn't, you know, that seems a likely situation. Yeah. No, he looked like disturbed by that moment at the fucking diff Qaeda. He was like, what the fuck? Yeah.

Well, did you have any super positive screenings that you, that you want to mention or I mean I know you do your own yeah uh video but yeah there's there's some standouts for sure I know did you see the new dong the new don yes I was all up in that dong uh dong was on stage they showed dong uh at Tiff and uh fucking loved it and honestly awesome I without spoiling anything it's like it's very different from his other films like there's some there's some things that are consistent about his other films that like if you're looking for that one thing you might just be like oh I don't know if I'm satisfied from it but what it what it lacks in one particular kind of like feeling uh it makes

up for it it's like complexities and also it's it's a very funny movie at many points you know it's really yeah no it's it's actually I loved it I loved it that would be my favorite from the festival um and I'm excited to watch it a second time it'll be on Netflix in October, November, something like that. So I'm excited to hear what you guys think. And then the new Andrei Izgavensev, Russian guy who hasn't made a movie since 2017, because he got like super sick and hospitalized from a bad reaction to the Sputnik vaccine from COVID, the Russian, the Russian.

Oh my God. Yeah. They call it Sputnik? They called it Sputnik. yes that's funny that's kind of yeah no it's crazy I like I was worried that he wouldn't be able to do anything again I think he was in a coma for a bit oh my god but yeah he returned he was he was there and like he seemed fine and like the movie is just as good as as others so that was incredible awesome wild horse nine enjoyed a lot I think you guys

will probably enjoy it a lot your mother your mother your mother was a surprising a nice surprise. I enjoyed it quite a bit. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm curious about that. Really? Did you guys see Mahershal Lee saying that Kevin Feigy was a loser? No. I did see that, but I wasn't sure like, is that even real? I keep being tricked by these fake articles, and then I go back on my arm. No, no, I actually saw the clip because the interviewer asked him.

It says, like, Kevin Feige said that he feels like a loser because he couldn't get the Blade movie to get made. And then Mahershala Lee is like, yeah, he should feel that way. I moved my family to Atlanta Like we everything Oh my God Training and he was just like yeah He should feel bad like he should feel like a loser It's a great clip

Oh that's so funny Pro tip if you ever want to find out if an article is bullshitting You just look for the primary source That's it That sounds like a lot of work Come on I mean sometimes they make it difficult Because they don't link it directly And you have to like search it for it on your own

But it's never taken me more than like a couple minutes You just ask gork. Ask gork if it's real. We should all zoom out and contextualize the fact that we're a generation that has access to all the information we could possibly want at our fingertips. We all have the ability to actually fact-check something if we really want to know what's true.

I just filter off like Twitter if I see anything on it. I'm like, it's not even real. If it's like a screenshot of an article title and you're like I'm not going. on a deep dive right now, you know. Adam, did you get a chance to see Club Kid? I know people have been. No, I'll be, I have other opportunities to see that soon.

But it won, no, actually I didn't even win the people's choice. But yeah, no, people seem to enjoy it quite a bit. I'll be catching that one in the next month, for sure. This is kind of unrelated to Tiff, sort of. But did you guys check out the Nathan Fielder? The new Nathan Fielder movie. Oh, yeah. Lance Oppenheim?

Yeah, the Lance Oppenheim, Nathan Fielder. Hell yeah. What's it called? Elizabeth Holmes, Theranos. You can see everything? You can see everything. Yeah. That's become my most anticipated.

Oh, hell yeah. Immediately. Yeah, I can't wait for A24 to make Alex wait two months longer than everyone else to see it. Yeah, I'm getting scared. Like, when I'm, is the UK going to get the film? I feel like it's getting worse the past few years. Like, how long got to wait? Like, I'm not going to be able to see prime time when you can.

guys do yeah what the fuck Halloween finally enough it's it's very annoying so it's like it's like always a 24 right it seems to be that way there must be some distribution thing going on yeah that's so fucking stupid pisses me huh um you should talk to your new prime minister about it which one hit up andy yeah sorry who's the prime minister now's the new guy's name Andy burnham who's that okay yeah since when he's the prime minister does he have a lettuce competing with him for how long he's going to be? He's outlived the lettuce at least, so that's a good sign. Okay.

Canada might join the EU. I just got to rub it in. I heard about that. As an associate. Fuck sake. I don't know. Okay, I'm just going to become Canadian. Why not?

Sure. You should colonize. I mean, move. Yeah. Yeah, one more. I just want to. mention one more interesting well yeah a couple more interesting movies

the new Mike Lee tender loving care was awesome and there was such a funny speaking of funny Q&A's somebody asked like what did the shot at the end mean and I'm not going to say what it is or whatever but Mike Lee's response

was essentially like I think everybody got it raise your hands if you didn't get it and like nobody raised their hands because even though I'm sure some other people didn't get it, it's just like, okay, now there's a social pressure where you're basically calling people an idiot if they raise their hand. And then nobody raised their hand,

and he's like, see? That was so good. That was so good. More filmmakers should do that. Oh, yeah. Just like, any of these other idiots out there want to admit they didn't understand my film? No?

Were you a baby? That's what YouTube explained video is a fool. Oh, yeah. And then one more film that was really, fun was called Ladies and Gentlemen Brian Muldrony by Matthew Rankin, Canadian director, and it's like a weird kaleidoscopic kind of, it's like YouTube sensibilities in terms of like pacing and editing stuff, almost like a Vic Burger or everything is terrible, but it's like a bunch of archival footage of Canadian politics.

Brian Mulroney is a former Canadian progressive conservative prime minister. And it was just like, it was like a fun, weird, crazy experience that even if you're not Canadian, I think, would be enjoyable. That sounds weird, yeah. It's kind of like a fun. It's one of the better ways to experience like a window into like Canadian politics. Okay. It's fun.

Cool. Nice mixture. Yeah, yeah. And I'll be catching. There's a bunch of stuff that is also playing at VIF that I will catch in like a couple weeks. So some things that. VF. Vancouver.

Gotcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Huh. Well, cool. We were talking about something before the podcast started. I was mentioning to Alex that the final installment of the Up series. is out now.

Is that the one with the old man and the balloons? Yeah, in the bird, right? I thought they just made one of those. Doesn't he die at the end? I mean, there's old man in it. Okay. There might be a balloon somewhere. It's basically Michael Aptead, rest in peace.

He interviewed a bunch of seven-year-olds, and then every seven years would check in with them. from differing socioeconomic backgrounds, basically. And the first film is called 7-Up, and it's like a 20-minute short or something. And each successive film, 14-up, 21-up, 28-up, 35-up, etc., he directed all the way up until 63-up, and then he passed away, and then someone else took over for 70-up, and this is supposed to be the last one. And essentially, it's like, you know, the boyhood or Synecdochie New York of documentaries where people are, you know, they were asked basic questions throughout their lives of, you know, like,

what do you want to be when you grow up? And like, it kind of follows these people and seeing if their expectations match up with reality and, like, differing relationships. And they just talk about their life. And it's just kind of like an interesting seeing them kind of reflect on things that they once believed or, you know, thought. And it's, it's fucking fascinating. And so I watched 63 up and it functioned great as like its own standalone thing because it just includes footage from the previous films, right? Like it's cross-referenced basically. So I'm expecting 70 up to be similar.

And it's released in a two-part episodic series, this final one. So I was just letting Alex know that that existed and I wanted to tell other people who were listening that that exists. No, this is unlocked like an old memory I have. And that's why I was confused. I was like, I don't, I've heard of this concept and not them being that old. So I must have seen one of the ones when they were like much younger and I'm just kind of forgotten about it.

Right, I didn't realize it was still like that consistent. That's really cool. Oh, yeah. Seven decades. Yeah. Wow. Can I ask you a question. Is this the most depressing thing in the world?

Because it sounds like this would just make me so depressed. Well, I mean, each individual has like, different philosophies. I don't know. No, there's nothing inherently depressing about any of it. It's like it's a beautiful, nice, meaningful experience. Okay. Yeah.

All right. I mean, a lot of beautiful experiences are depressing as well. So I guess I would consider that. Now, this does sound, it sounds great. I mean, I remember reading a Roger Ebert review, I think, a while ago talking about the series and thinking, oh, that's really interesting. It's just the older I get, the more I think, like, I don't know if I want to more experience that.

It's like, I feel like when you're younger, or at least when I was younger, I could watch things that were way more fucking depressing than I could now. Like I would never, like the film, Amor, you know. I was like, this is a great film. That was the first Hanukkah film that I ever saw. And I was like, this is a great film.

Nice. I could never imagine watching that again, ever. I do not ever want to see that again. But I know it's really good. Sure. That's interesting. I've changed. Baby brain.

Baby brain. Baby brain. Syndrome. PBS strikes a gun. It do be doing that. What are we talking about today, guys? Resident Evil? Sure.

What's that? Or do we have... What is... Resident Evil. Yeah. I mean, you know me. I'm the video game guy on the podcast. Mia Jobovich, right?

Oh, my God. I can't hear the name Mila Jovovich without thinking of the stupid promotional shit she did for the fourth kind where they were like, I'm an actor, but this is real. I'm speaking to you as the actor person, Mila Jovovich. This movie's real. And then people, it was like so early, like in Internet, it was like, what, 2005 or something that people were like it's real they said it's real it's real they why would they lie people just fucking ate it up oh my god yeah that was the website era

like go surreal.com yeah oh there's still movies that try to do that and I'm not even gonna I'm going down a weird separate rabbit hole right now anyway uh Resident Evil the new Zach you should just change his name to Zach the new Zach is a Snyder fans new Zach in town yeah yeah um yeah that was a tiff wasn't it I didn't it he's not That was a surprise screening at Tiff that they didn't even announce until the full schedule was out. And it was a single showing. And I obviously didn't go because I had my full schedule already figured out. And I was like, what?

Am I going to move something to the side for the new Zach? Reviews are fucking brutal. Sorry, the old Zach. Yeah. Yeah, I'm kind of morbidly curious about that one. Yeah, I said the Nathan Fielder was my most anticipated, but I think this is actually my most anticipated now. That might be like the, well, I don't know if it's the. worst received for premiere at Tiff ever. What is the movie called? The new Zach? The old Zach?

The last photograph. The last photograph. Let's see. Last photograph has a metascore of 16. So the only other one that I can remember being as close would be life and death of John F. Donovan. But let's see. Let's see what that was. John F. Donovan. What is that? A character in a movie. Okay, 28 metascore. So this is worse. Yeah, yeah, the news. So that was an Xavier Dolan film that's like a beautiful mess. Oh, shit. That just like it's fascinating. I think Alex, you would definitely get something out of it.

It's so fucking stupid. Okay. It's confusing. That was a weird for me. When is Xavier Dolan going to come back to movies? We need the mommy returns, right? Oh, yeah. No, he made other mommy.

The mommy returns? Mm-hmm. He made other mommy. Yeah. I think he's done. I think he said publicly, like he, he doesn't want to direct anymore. Why?

He's like 14 years old or something. Like he's got a whole life to live. Yeah. No, he can change his point. How old is he? 30? Yeah.

Great. He was born in 1989, so he's probably 30. Yeah, sorry, I just threw that off completely. Resident Evil. Mark, um,

with that? I'm curious the perspective of like, how familiar are all of us with Resident Evil? There's a few angles, right? There's the movies. There's the games, obviously. and then there's just like video game movies as a genre

because like video game movies have only recently started being successful you know there have been a lot of adaptations of them your dooms or whatever your uve bowl early stuff but it was always known for just being trash then we got the sonic movie and the Mario movies and uncharted and shit like that all terrible films but they make money

yeah Minecraft too awful I can't I can't believe uncharted being money stuff like that That's so sad. I know, I know. People are too kind to that piece of shit for them. Felt good. Like, the games are in comparison.

Oh, people talk positively about it. Yeah, people are weirdly coming to it. But I think this is the best video game movie ever made. Yeah, what's the, like, easily? What's the runner-up? What even comes close? Gosh, I don't. People used to say that the Silent Hill, you know, the first movie.

Is Scott Pilgrim based on a video game or a graphic novel? I think it's a graphic novel. Yeah, the video game. game came after. That was always like the tech on a technicality one that it's got video game isms and like references but okay taking like a big franchise that everyone knows turning it into a movie this is like the first time it's been good because there are so many of these resident evil movies it's kind of got a stink on it from like a cinema standpoint the amount of people like just random people I kept like bringing this film up to and they're like oh I've heard of that like

they made another one of those shits it was kind of like the ads you're like get getting but it was like no this was this is really good they have someone who like knows how to make movies doing it this time who actually like cares about the games and understands that it can be more than just a string of references for you to point and do a cringy face at you know like YouTube short compilations actually feels like understands what the games are about because I I've only played Resident Evil 2 um all the way through oh incredible game like the remake or yeah for no other reason like I've just kind of been around other people playing them so I've seen seven and nine

all the way through okay I've I got four on my steam like back sure yeah at some point um but I understand like how it how they work like structurally the kind of tropes that the games have and yeah the way they work so I could see through the I could pick up the references obviously and yeah and those tropes bleed into other video game franchise like other survival horror Yeah, exactly. And there's more than just Resident Evil, as far as, like, game references in this film. Yeah. He clearly understands, like, how...

He just gets it. He understands, like, how to do this, how to adapt it into a different medium without, like, ruining it. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's fascinating. And it's also interesting to see, because there's, like, a bit of a weird backlash that I've noticed, where this seems to be, like, generally overwhelmingly well, received but there is enough of a there there are enough people that like I

guess just didn't connect with the humor and then there's also some people that like wanted a more thing they were used to version of you know Resident Evil they want to see Leon they want to see Claire or whatever yeah in the dump the name characters and throw Ashley in there they want the like a marble thing of like you know you know it's like here's the reveal of the thing you know Wester which has kind of like been the problem is So many. Yeah, exactly.

Bro, it's Wesco, dude. It's Wesker. I don't know if it's like possible to really make that way or to, he said it in interviews. He wasn't interested in retelling and already existing game story. I think that's a good approach. I don't think any of these adaptations should really try doing that. I think it's just a fool's errand, you know? Like, let's make a Bioshock movie.

Why? Like a lot of the time what makes them good and the story's good is like the medium that it was told in to begin with. Maybe you could tell, like, or remix a story in the same world or do that. Because, you know, they keep trying to, they keep talking about doing this kind of thing. Like, let's make a Mass Effect movie. Let's just one to one. It's like, no. No, this is like the only way I think you can do it and actually make a movie that isn't just, you know, just a point.

And, oh, it's that thing I know. Kind of memberberry movie. Yeah. I feel like Mass Effect could work, but just like it would have to be almost like a fucking TV series or something. If you want to include, like, all the cool shit. I feel like TV series are like the most successful right now in terms of video game adaptation, like with The Last of Us in Fallout. Oh yeah.

That would be the big ones. Those would be the ones that I couldn't think of for runner-ups. And Last of Us was kind of interesting because it was like, it was already there. What made the game stand out originally was how cinematic it was and they would just kind of beat-for-beat doing the exact same thing. And again, I don't think it was like as good as the game. I feel like it stands out more as a game in the second season kind of. fell apart and fallout's really popular but it's not adapting any of the stories of the games it's just kind of using the world as like a backdrop or a setting which again i think is the the answer

um and even with that as you're saying with the fans of present evil kind of upset about things here or there or thinking that it makes umbrella look inept and the same was happening with fallout whereas people who are really into it have like certain complaints that i'm not into that serious so i couldn't really get into it that deep and you know it's fine honestly level if you didn't connect with it but this is what i guess to you jake i assume me i haven't played any of these games and but it feels like this film would work without understanding any of that really what's a video game um yeah i don't know what video game is it's for babies uh i don't know um no i like you know i have a vivid memory of watching my dad play one of the games when i was a kid that's

crazy and being really scared sorry Wait, why is that crazy? No, it's just it makes everyone else in the audience feel old. Good, good. Not me, though. I'm 29. I'm clinging on to my 20s as long as I can't. No, but my dad played it.

And I was like, this is the scariest thing I've ever seen in my life. I do not want to look at the screen anymore. But, no, like, Resident Evil to me was always just the movies and catching, like, clips on TV and being like, wow, this looks like shit. like, can we change the channel? Yeah. I don't know. There are people who love those movies and defend Paul Thomas Anderson who made those movies. I mean, W.S. Anderson.

Yeah. You know, basically the same type of filmmaker. Paul Wes Anderson. But to me, yeah, I just had zero, really zero knowledge of the games or the franchise or anything. And I was just going in like, yeah, we're doing Zach Krieger. I knew that he wanted to do like a slim, just kind of like crazy ride. And I was like, yeah, let's do this. I love zombie movies.

And I think if you go in with that expectation, you're going to be pleased. I mean, in terms of adapting anything, you're going to have that contingent of people who are going to be extremely annoying about it because it's not exactly what they want. I mean, you get the same with any book adaptation, with literally anything, people feel a sense of ownership because it's like I had a special experience with that. And with video games and with books, like a lot of it is your own participation and what makes it special. So, yeah, you're going to have people. upset about that. But this movie is just a wild ride for 90 minutes with just some of the best fun, engaging set pieces, a lead actor who is just engaging and fun to watch and you want to root for him. And it's just a bunch of silly bullshit for 90 minutes that never lets up. And I was

just like, yeah, this is great. This is so much fun. Like, I feel like it's a really hard movie to hate. Yeah, I feel the same way. And I was thinking about our conversation about Evil Dead Burn and I was like, what's like the comedy to this? It's made me kind of recessed that movie a little bit of like, oh, this is like what I kind of was after. A bit more of a comedy horror thing going on, unpretentious, but also, then I just hitting the right marks with like these creature designs and a string of set piece is not overstaying its welcome. It just like flies by, knows exactly what it is as self-aware. It's like creative.

This belongs in the Evil Dead franchise more than a lot of other movies. Yeah. Like it shows it can be done. It's like a nice mixture of these. It's just like familiar enough with like a little bit of the thing in there, a little bit of these things you recognize, a little bit of Evil Dead. But coming out with something new.

And with this, the spin that I like that would be lost if you tried to just translate the regular Resident Evil Games is having this regular. regular unassuming guy as the main character who kind of like is fumbling and stumbling his way through this situation and reacting like a regular human wood who was shoved into this insanity and kind of he said in interviews Craigor

that you wanted to take this approach of basically fleshing out like an mpc when you're playing games like if you found like an audio log like what that story was you know yeah sure that's fun so yeah yeah that's a really cool inventive approach. Like it's additive. It doesn't feel like it's, hey, it's Leon. Hey, it's that monster I recognize. Hey, it's a liquor. Hey, it's Mr. X. It doesn't really need that, but also feels like it's adding something or feels like I could be playing this game. I kind of want to play this as a game. It's structured like the games with the way the environments are used and the, the

puzzles and the way's fumbling for ammo and using a space in a certain way. It's like really thoughtful. Yeah, it's crazy to think I've played eight of the games. It's not even like, it's not even like one of my favorite franchises or anything. I'm like, wow, I guess I've played like eight of these. There are a lot of them. Yeah, and I've seen a few of the movies. They're not great. Many, many issues. I like, honestly, I think that I think this is the right direction, but I enjoyed it so much for what it was that I'm also kind of left with this idea. of like, okay, well, they're clearly going to want to make a sequel, right? It's Sony.

PlayStation films or whatever. No. I think Zach Krueger would rather jump off a bridge than do another one. Yeah. Yeah, he's already said he's not doing this shit again. Like he's been scared off. No, even if whether or not it's him, I'm just thinking like, okay, well, how do you, how do you capture what made this special without just retreading the same?

ground, right? Like, it's going to be very difficult to capture that magic again, because part of what I love about this is it denies all of the temptations to, you know, have other characters be, like, way too prominent and kind of change the feel of what type of experience this is, you know, like a survival horror video game, unless you're doing like a fucking escort mission or whatever which is you know I guess you do that a bunch in Resident Evil 4 or unless you're doing like fucking co-op like five and six a lot of it is just you by yourself and you might come across other characters and there might be you know

certain uh scenes or interactions but like the the main the main selling point is that you're fucking alone and you have to fucking deal with this shit you have to figure a way out try different things solve puzzles or whatever, you know, loot for ammo. It faithfully continues to be that and it finds good excuses to continue to be that. And that's what I love about it. But I just, I couldn't imagine that working like a second time because then it's just like, I've seen this, you know? Like what? I feel like it exhausted the scenarios for what could make it work really well. Yeah, because you know, they would just rest on their laurels and just bring out a reference to a character, you know, like, um, welcome to Raccoem City, that movie from 2021, where it was just a

bunch of the characters just thrown into this scenario. It's like, it's fucking unwatchable. It was just awful. Damn. Um, yeah, no, it is a bit of a lightning in a bottle. And there is the kind of angle of, I'm pretty sure when he first wrote it, there was, if the, uh, is it, is a Capcom? I'm like blanking right now. Um, he pitched it as an idea of a movie to them. It is If he wasn't accepted, yeah. If he wasn't accepted his script, he could have easily worked it into just an original horror film, you know? Like, that could be done fairly soon.

Sure, yeah, exactly. No reason why it has to be risen evil. Exactly, yeah. But it's, that's not to say that it doesn't still feel like an R.E. Or survival horror kind of experience or game. It still does have some of these kind of tropes that the game has. Like a lot of them have some kind of creature that is chasing you throughout a significant portion of the game. And that's a big part of the movie.

Even if it's not one you haven't seen before. You know, it's so much fun. There's so much like classic comedy in this, in the DNA, not just in terms of the jokes or anything, but in terms of like the structure, like it feels very silent movie. And in terms of the way like, like Buster Keaton gag. Like it's constantly setting up gags with payoff slapstick, like almost like, bring. bringing up baby Jew in the way that things just escalate and escalate and escalate. And also reminds me also of like, I don't know why I thought of this, but like sorcerer, you know, where like a guy just trying to survive and is just increasing challenges.

There's something so basic and simple, but like kind of untapped in terms of like the current horror trends where it needs to be very psychological and all the stuff where leaning into this, I thought was a really smart idea and it works so well. Well, on the other hand, though, I am one of those people where I felt like it leaned a little too far into the comedy at certain points. And not so much leaning into the comedy, but in terms of like, I wish that it trusted the audience just a little more to pick up on the humor because at certain points it started feeling a bit quippy and kind of like, hey, guys, this is the point when you laugh.

Like, this is the funny, you know? And like the stuff with Paul Walter Houser was a little bit too much where it felt like, I really enjoyed that. I don't know. Like this is already, this is already really funny. Like you don't need to, you know, mug the camera. You don't need to go out of your way to have this extra one liner when it's like, yeah, it's already, it already works. You know what I mean?

Did you guys feel that way at all? Yeah. Yeah, you know, like I didn't really feel that way, but I can understand that perspective for sure. Like, it was explicitly humorous for sure. Like, it didn't, it wasn't subtle about the fact that it was funny, although I do feel like many of the jokes were not as like, you know, obvious punchlines, you know, like many of the jokes might not get a reaction out of, you know, many people in the theater just because of, you know, the context that the joke exists in, I guess. But yeah, no, I really enjoyed that scene with fucking Paul Walter Houser. I loved his inclusion and just, yeah, no, the humor really clicked with me.

I felt like it, if it didn't offer much outside of that, like then it might just feel like an awkward, like, you know, some people even mentioned specifically the line of him saying video games, right? Like, if that existed in a vacuum or something and it was trying to be like a catchphrase, like a gribble-tastic or something, right?

Then I would have found it to be cringy, but like it felt like just his way of expressing the seeds that were planted earlier about him being like, well, I don't know, my only experience with guns is video games and then, you know, eventually, that's just his shorthand way of saying, like,

ha, ha, my experience with video games perhaps led to me being, doing this specific part successfully sort of thing. Like, you can learn, you know, it's just a shorthand exclamation of that. So, like, tied into other things, you know, so I don't know. It was kind of the tonal thing that made it click for me, that was the glue that held it together, like that. self-awareness that comedy angle because, I don't know, being fairly familiar with the games, I think translating them is quite a challenge. They have a very odd tone because they are

corny. They're insanely corny games, but they also, they are like terrifying at points. But how much of that is your interactivity, like the angle of that, like bringing out the horror? How do you do that in a film in like a 90-minute narrative? I think, That's like quite a challenge. So I don't blame anyone for if the comedy doesn't connect with you, it's the film's not really going to work for you. But it did speak to me. And I found it just kind of tongue in cheek and playful enough for that to be fun

and entertaining for me. Like that's what has drawn me to his previous horror films as well, that kind of balance of that. And this is way more in the kind of comedy zone than the previous movies. But I liked it for that. This is kind of a niche that hasn't. been filled for me, you know, like, Osperkins, like, tries it and it doesn't really, actually, doesn't work for me. I just feel like I haven't had this experience with a film like this

in a long time, unless I'm forgetting anything obvious, but that's all made it jump out to me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I also saw some people saying things like, uh, that the first 30 minutes or so worked for them, but, but then as it started to get comedic, like it stopped working, but I don't know.

I felt like it was consistently humorous and funny the entire time. Like the moments where it gets more explicit, it wasn't explicit in a different way for me. Like I found from the beginning of the film it to be like very clearly a comedy. But yeah, just not, I guess, spelling it out for everyone. I think like, yeah, the comedy worked for me. I think it was always just the quippiness of the main character. And I think a lot of it too is that, and I don't know about you guys if you saw it with a good crowd. I saw it with like maybe 10 other people in my theater.

And they weren't responding to any of like the quip stuff. Like they were responding to like the comedy of the scenarios, you know, and the physical comedy and all of that. But whenever Brian, I guess, Austin Abrams was talking to himself and he's, you know, like stupid fucking monsters or after one scene and he's like, I didn't do that. No, that didn't happen. Uh-uh. You know, like his self-talk, I think, and I do think like it makes sense for the movie. It makes sense for the character. But I felt in my audience, and I felt this way too, like my guard is up for any of that kind of stuff in movies in general because it is so prevalent in like the Ryan Reynolds, you know, Marvel's universe.

You know, like you see so much of that. That it's like the movie's doing so much good shit already. Like, if we could pull back just a little bit on some of that, you know, and just that's how I feel. Yeah, no, no, I completely agree with you about, like, the overwhelming amount of films that do that on paper. What changes this for me is the context. So the fact that this is presented with such a sense of, like, comedic irony, like, the dude is such a obvious, like, incompetent fuck up, right? And what's happening in the universe is like so genuinely horrific. That juxtaposition, like I think inherently implies some sense of like ironic self-awareness, right?

So when I hear those quips, I don't hear it in the same way that I would hear like Deadpool say it, right? As like a, you know, here, aren't we silly self-aware, you know, fourth wall break? Did I leave the fucking oven on sort of thing? Like, to me, the movie is inherently, it's communicating that it also knows that it's fucking stupid and ridiculous. Like, like that, the fact that it's, it's like the fact that it doesn't fit in the universe is the reason why it's funny and it knows that, right? A standout moment for me was when the spoilers, we're talking spoilers now, everybody. Watch them, when the... Yeah, yeah, let's see spoilers.

Incredible misdirect on the top floor of the farmhouse or whatever where he winds up blowing the head off the woman. I forget which character he blew the head off of it. But anyway, decapitated head, girlfriend leaving the message on the phone. He's like transfixed on this decapitated head. head and the tendrils start coming out. And he, you know, I think he says, like at first he says, like, oh, fuck. Or like, just something that a normal person would say. And as this scene continues, he says the word fascinating.

Like, just this weird, like, like, that line obviously doesn't fit sort of thing. But it's less of a, like, cocky, confident, like, I'm saying this to the audience sort of thing. and more of like him saying it to himself. Does that make sense? I'm like trying to work through. It doesn't make sense. How this makes sense in my head too, you know? Sure.

But it's also like, that's kind of what the franchise is as well. Like, where's everyone going? Bingo. It's just like, it's full of these like quips in one line. Appreciate it. Don't get cocky.

You know, like, yeah. And I love it for that. Like, I love that that's part of the games. I really like the tone of the games. But, um, Yeah, just adapting that one-to-one, I just don't think would work without the innate interactivity. So I feel like this is a way of kind of nodding at that style of just ridiculousness that the games are going for with a fresh character. Like he's not competent like a Leon.

He is just this guy. That's just kind of, as you're saying, that juxtaposition does make it work for me. I'll agree with you, Jake, though. In that scene in particular, I feel like is that that's where it gets stretched, the Paul Walter Hauser. moment is like that's as far as it can go without like breaking for me. Right. It was like on the border. The thing is like that sequence, it's so funny in itself.

And there are so many moments in the movie. It's almost like I'm criticizing it for being too sweet or like there's too much good, delicious stuff on my chocolate fudge Sunday, you know, it's like the scenario where he shoots the lady in the beginning and then he goes back to his car and he's like, why isn't my car working? And you see bullet holes in it. I'm like, that's fucking hilarious. Like, I'm already laughing at that. But then he comments and, you know, talks about it and, like, gives the audience a clear moment to laugh at it.

It's like a line break or like a moment. And it's like, that's fine. I understand why that helps with the probably the mood of the film, especially if you're watching with the crowd. But like the scenarios in themselves, I'm like, this is so fucking good with the Paul Walter Houser thing. I'm like, once the cop vanishes and they're like, we should go. This is what she'd want. in the way he goes out there and like her entrails are like being dragged down he just has to grab the key like all these physical demands that are so literal and human and like yeah of course

you would be feeling this way in a horror sequence like this like after a certain point he's just like no fuck it I couldn't find the key yeah I loved that was once he just gave up like no fuck this that was really and then he shoots Paul Walter Hauser and I that was my favorite part what I what I loved about that scene as well was like the fact that it established Paul Walter Hauser as this like incredibly like inconsiderate rude impatient like just fucking piece of shit right and so like the first honk we hear is you he turns back and he sees him he's like hurry up like mouthing the movement right uh all of this from the main character's perspective which i love um and then the second honk like you know as he's about to grab the key and then decides not to.

Second honk you, as the audience, because you've seen the first honk and him just being impatient, you don't think anything's wrong. But when you see him being dragged out of the car, then you can kind of re-contextualize it and be like, wait, the second honk was probably like a help honk. Like a, you know, like help, I'm, you know, there's a thing at the car now. Like, I like that. That's clever. And also.

The boy who honked wolf. Yeah. Like there's so many instances where like, even the first death of the first death of the film, you see the police officer's vehicle swerve off the road. All of this is from the main character's perspective. So many other films would cut to the interior of police officer and show, you know, the women go, right? And try to do like a job scare sort of thing, right? I love that this is all staying with the main character, just like it would, if it were survival horror, but also because, you know, in horror in general, whether or not you're doing a video game movie, like,

it's a lot more effective to let the audience experience things through a character who might not know everything, right? Like, fear of the unknown is also legitimate fear. I also want to say, I think I've figured out why, or at least a big reason why the quippiness of the lines in this film don't affect me in the same way that they would like a Marvel film or fucking Ryan Reynolds. It's whatever, right? I think it has to do with the music, because the music in this film, it's not just necessarily even in compositions. It's the way in which it's used, right? So many other horror films will have like really high energy like when something genuinely

terrifying is happening, they often try to like match the emotion in the score. This film, it's a lot more subdued. almost sounds like a John Carpenter score, but without like the explicitly 80s instrumentation, just like a kind of, like it did remind me of the thing in that way. And now what I'm realizing is like so many other films, when they do have those quippy one-liner moments, it's almost like they let the music drop, right? Like they make clear cues and indications from the music that you're supposed to be laughing at specific moments. And I felt like for the most part, this film didn't do that.

Like, when he's saying the word fascinating, like, that's a line that appears as if it would any other line in the film, as if he didn't say something that was just so fucking hilarious. And I think that's why it worked for me, is that the film is presenting it in a way where it's not going like, hey, excuse me, excuse me, you're supposed to laugh right now. You know, like, maybe certain people felt that. Jake, it appears like you felt like that from the lines themselves at the very least.

Just now and then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it wasn't oppressively obnoxious. Yeah, I'll be thinking about what you said on a rewatch for sure, because who knows, like my crowd was pretty into it, it seemed. So I don't know if there were like laugh breaks or no. Yeah, my crowd like wasn't reacting at all. I was like the only one cackling there.

That's your experience with every movie, though? It still worked for me. I know, yeah. True. Yeah. But yeah, I've seen similar complaints for things we're in spoilers. The scientist section towards the end, which is like the comedy just like ramps up and it's like people being squished and they're completely incompetent.

I really like that as well. I love that too. I mean, how funny is it this guy who's like transforming and just like, hey guys, could I have a little bit of that antidote? What do you get a chance? Like come on. That's just so nice shot of him like on the chair, like wheeling over. It's like really funny.

Yeah. Yeah. And the kind of cynical ending, just like, when I realized he was going to do a big fuck you, you know, to the audience, I was like, hell yeah. This is good. Yeah. I mean, like, he's becoming a boss that like Leon Kennedy would shoot in like a boss fight. Like, I think that's a really funny, like, angle to this. And yeah, there's some cool, like kind of subtle, quick, efficient, like character stuff with the main guy with his phone call with his girlfriend and a lot of the, you know, a lot of the, all the creatures he's interacting with are like symbolic of this you know um conflict he's going through with his girlfriend or fiance i can't remember what the relationship was you know with the the whole baby scene which was very um dead space co-cured and the whole um inside like limb creature that's like chasing him the baby when the arms start going up because you know it's like it's i'm like i don't want to see a weird like effed up baby situation you know what i mean but then When you actually see the creature, I'm like, oh, this is fucking fun.

Like, the arms just get longer and longer. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, no, the comedic timing in the maternity ward scene is really great. Oh, yeah. They know how to time it. And natural set design was cool. Yeah.

With these weird, like, postules, like, exploding everywhere. And, like, just great lighting all around, like, a lot of dark scenes. But you could actually see it. It wasn't, like, obscured in a way that every time it was obscured, it was intentional. And wasn't like, oh, this is just the recurring problem of a dark scene that you just can't see for whatever reason. Yeah. No, I love how style-heavy the color choices were. Like the red and the blue, like when he's getting out of the car and just like how it illuminates like different parts of the environment on the white snow,

like depending on whether or not you're in front of or behind the car. Like it was so very incredibly style-heavy that it's like, okay, this is not realistic lighting, but I'm here for it because you're clearly making a choice and it's fun and lovely to look at. Yeah. I love it. And in terms of like efficient characterization, like, we know everything we need to know about the main character within the first scene. Like as soon as he's given a task, they're like, are you sure you, like, you need like four-wheel

drive snow tires and chains. He's like, yeah. Yeah. Don't worry about it. Next shot, just swerving on ice. Like, okay, this is great. And he's like, he's, he understands the seriousness of what he's delivering, too. Yeah.

But everyone's like not taking him seriously. He's trying to find someone to sign for the package. Yeah. To be a big deal later on. And he's like, yeah, wincing looking into these doors of people with like fucked up legs and all these injuries, which is like a fun. It's just saying up what's like going to be coming later. But then like, um, later on when he's, when he basically gives up and makes the audio recording and he sees the, the sticker on the car. The family and the dog and the baby.

And it's like, that's clever. That's who he's killed like throughout the movie. And this, I've seen a fun theory of, this really cool creature that's like building in limbs that is like, the way it moves is really cool and chasing it throughout the whole. Yeah. Greater movement.

There's like this theory that it, in a very resident evil kind of way, knows that the cure or whatever was in his bag was on him and has been trying to get to that and not actually get to him. It would explain like that scene with the car as well. True. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, there's definitely some stuff I want to see again.

Yeah, I think that's like really cool. I love. Super video game in a way that's not an insult. Yeah, yeah. I love how he wound up like, what of the last time, I think the last time he saw it, he's like apologizing. He's like, I'm sorry, I hate you. Okay, I'm sorry.

Yeah. And speaking on you, you said about the escort mission thing. I was really scared that when that little girl was going to become like, oh man, I'm doing this shit. But like immediately it's like, no. That's what I mean when like it resisted the temptation because that easily could have been a moment where it's like, okay, now we have second character and we know she's not going to die. You know, we know that she's going to be with us for some about a time. Yeah. That was fucked up and gnawley like that review.

That's great. When he sees the foot and she's just like, can you help me? He's like, yeah, I'll let me hold you. And I like that he gets bit there. So it's like, uh, yeah, like he's fucked. Like, from that moment, there wasn't really an expectation for me for him to survive. It just didn't feel like that kind of movie. I didn't need him to.

I still wanted him to deliver the cure or do whatever they were going to do with that. But I like that it didn't really, it wasn't the point of the movie. It wasn't like setting up like a law thing. Like, as far as I know. Yeah. Like, this is how this cure was found here. and da-da-da-da. I thought the whole

like city gets in the game or something but yeah, it doesn't really matter. Yeah, there's a good way that's a good way to put in it. Yeah,

and it's, it left things, like, I still believed that there was a possibility that he could be okay by the end of the movie because it established

like that he was carrying the cure and I'm like, okay, well maybe he'll get it, right? So there was enough. Yeah, it's the carrot on the stage.

It wasn't like decided, right? True. True. But then it's like, okay, how is he even going to get out of this city

if he gets this cure. And I love how he's just getting mutated even more and more. And you're just like, okay, you take this cure. What happens then? Like, you have all these extended body parts and like, what, how does this work? I don't know.

I just assume they'd like fucking slurped back into him. Yeah. That's what I mean about the comedy just seeing, seeming like it's at the top of the hierarchy for me. where it's like the jokes were hitting consistently. I didn't really need even. There were like fun horror concepts, but I was never particularly like frightened

and maybe that's what people are upset about. But I feel like it. I wasn't scared. It wasn't scary movie. I mean, it's thrilling. I wasn't scared. I didn't need that from this. I wasn't scared.

I wasn't scared. I'm a big boy. No, I was scared at a few scenarios. Like it was genuinely terrifying for bits. Like the, the, him running around the vehicle. and her just like that was hilarious but fucking terrifying like the thing you know like that I just I love how screwed he was at that moment and just I don't know I feel like there's like an inherent

silliness to it but it's also kind of realistic like there tons of people would just literally run around a vehicle like please stuff oh so much of that is just like yeah what would I do in this scenario, like realistically. And then one of my favorite little bits is, you know, of course, the locks that he keeps trying to shoot. Yeah. Yes. That scene when he's escaping the farmhouse, you know, and he gets the truck and he's about to drive through. And he's like, oh, shit, let me try to break the lock. Let me shoot the lock.

And literally someone in my audience was just like, drive through the gate. Because it's like, we've all seen movies. We know you just drive fast and you'll break through the gate. Somebody shouted that in your audience. Someone literally was just like, just drive, dude. Oh my God. And I was like, I relate to that because, of course, like I was like, yeah, just drive through the fucking gate. It looks like a tiny little gate.

He tries shooting the padlock. Then he tries going through the gate. And of course, it just happens to drive up onto it. He can't use the car anymore. I love it. This is fucking so funny. Yeah. I love that it's a film that like punishes him for his incompetence.

Yeah. Totally. Oh, and I love how the key fell out of the car like right after with a very obvious symbol on it. Like, that was so much fun. Yeah. Shit. Yeah, and it's a subtle reference to the games. That's an example of something that works with Jake, even though.

Yeah. It doesn't really, you know, it's like layered kind of. I like Minecraft. Yeah, and you played Steve. But like when he's being chased around that car, when he's being chased around that car, and his aim is, like, awful. And he's got no experience with guns, which is also kind of like, when you first start playing the game and your aims all fucked up.

and I don't know, it's just like details where he just gets it. Yeah. He understands how to do it. It's also fun just like knowing that Resident Evil is like, you know, part of the gameplay is just ammo conservation and management and he wastes so much. Like he's just dropping shells as he's running. Like that's fun. That's fun to watch because, like, you know, that's how he defends himself.

And it's just like it's being wasted everywhere. even like regardless of his bad aim, you know. It's just, it's a fun thing to watch. I was engaged throughout. I was excited. I was exhilarated. Totally. Yeah.

Me too. No, it's, it's really amazing to pull this off. And it feels so effortless and just like, yeah, we're having a fun time. You know, to go from weapons to this back to back. It's pretty insane. I mean, and people are talking about Zach Kragher now is like,

oh, yeah, he's in the wheelhouse with Jordan Peel. with, you know, the other horror guys who were big. What are they? Eggers. Egg boy. I mean, Ariaster, he's not really, I feel like Ari Aster isn't even like a horror filmmaker anymore. Sure.

Doing his stuff. Curry Barker. Ken Parsons. He's three for three for me. And his next film, like, looks really cool from the concept. It's like a sci-fi movie, apparently. I'm in for whatever he makes. this point. And he seems to, he just seems how to, he seems to know how to work in the system.

Like, for, what, $65 million dollar budget for this? Like, it's already past $100 million one weekend. Like, that's not bad at all. For an IP movie, that's great. Yeah, yeah, particularly for an IP movie, I feel like that's almost unheard of at this point. I know. Isn't that fucking weird? Yeah. So, yeah, just whatever means he can keep making these movies around. that kind of budget and like kind of flex some things here and there and be creative and weird and clearly had freedom to do what you wanted I guess after weapons like it being such a such a success yeah he's definitely one to keep an eye on I'm really into his stuff yeah Prager for Crager right wow and well I I don't think it's like quite um weapons tier I still prefer that I think it's

I think it's just slightly more um I think the structure is just so interesting. Sure. That's very young. And I like pay off towards the end. It's really cool and original. Mm-hmm. I still think this is probably his second best movie.

I think I like this more than barbarian, I think, for what it was set out to do for the intent of making a Resident Evil movie for what I'm looking for. I don't really see how you could do it better, you know? Sure. Yeah, no, this is my favorite of his films, I think, so. Ratings? What do you guys read this? Eight. Damn.

Okay. Yeah, I'm a smidge under. I give this, what, three and a half star seven for my first watch, but I would happily watch this again. It's like so, it just flies by it. It's so quick, you know, 90 minutes. It's kind of perfect. I could see it maybe bumping up when I see it again,

which I'm sure I will. Yeah, I'm with you right there exactly, seven, seven, and it could only go up from there. Yeah, just a great, great time. Dink. Nice. Nice. Nice.

Resident Evil. Appreciate it. Sorry, I was just looking at woke or not.net. Sorry, what dot net? Woke or not. Dot net. Oh. You've not seen this?

They've got to know what movies I'm allowed to watch through the woke meter. Uh-huh. Well, Lion King's safe. One out of ten, not woke. Nice. Wally has a one out of ten not work rate. Oh, no. Oh, hoppers, though, has got 10 out of 10 very woke shit.

They should include that on the cover. Yeah, like a Rantamati's like... Like the tomato meter? Yeah. It's just like a Chad and a soy jack. Yeah. Why not at this point? So we're out with movie discourse, I guess.

So like, teen sex and death at Camp Miasma has a 10-10 wokeness. Okay. Well... Wait, what? Here, wait a minute. Are you complaining about wokeness again, Alex? Yeah. Just showing on my new website,

Woke or Not, dot net. Oh, cool. Okay. Help. All right. I don't, whatever. Wait, is this real? That doesn't matter.

Yeah, that's real. It's not real. Woke or not. Dot net, yeah. Minions and Monsters is not woke, but it gets one ding for having feminist themes. It's like a suffrage at March. fucking film.

Oh, Toy Story 5 is woke. Uh-oh. Yeah, it's got a woman in it. The Odyssey, obviously, woke. Macrooms is woke. Okay. Lime.

The end of Oak Street is woke. Why is Backrooms wet? Because is a black man in the lead? Diversity casting. What do you mean diversity casting? Oh, my God. Veminist? themes, social, what?

That's insanity. That's insane. There's a black actor. It's diversity. But like how many, like here. You can see the breakdown and so many of these is like two votes, two votes, one vote, one vote for like each of these. Two people thought there was diversity casting. So like what are the, there's nobody on it.

We are like making the website like have record breaking traffic by all three of us being on it at the same time right now. Like this does not matter. Oh, man. They're really behind. I mean, Coyote versus Acme hasn't even been rated yet. Yeah, because nobody's on the fucking website.

All right. All that jazz, right? All that jazz, right. All that jazz. Finally, one of us recommended. We knew it was going to come around

one of these days. Yeah, This is a 1979, directed by Bob Fosse, written by Bob Fossy and Robert Allen Arthur, who also, Robert Allen Arthur also produced it, and Robert Allen Arthur also died. I believe a couple of months after this film was made of a heart attack. Ironically enough, Bob Fossy would die quite young, about 10 years after this movie was made. But Bob Fossy, yeah. I mean, I don't know how much you guys know about him. I'm not a huge Bob Fossi. I'm not huge on knowledge about him because I'm not big on, you know, musical theater and that whole world. But I know that he's a legend and choreographer and he basically did the Chicago, you know, the original run of Chicago. And this movie is, you know, quite obviously autobiographical, but covers sort of what was going on in his life when he was editing. the film Lenny, which is about Lenny Bruce starring

Dustin Hoffman. He was editing that while working on Chicago. And this movie is sort of about that period of his life when he did suffer a heart attack. Yeah, anyways, this is like the best movie ever made. I don't know,

but this is probably like my 10th time watching this. I have seen no other Bob Fosse film. I don't know why. I think I just like never... It's not going to compare. I don't know. I never felt like another one could live up to this. But this movie is, in my mind, like, one of the greatest movies ever made. And not only I think that, Stanley Kubrick called it the best film I think I have ever

seen when he watched it. Nice. Yeah. How the hell did you guys like all that jazz? Very much. I like to quite a lot. Yeah. Cool.

I had such an interesting experience with this movie. one of the more unique kind of experiences I've had that's just I don't know left like an immediate impression um because like I went into this a bit kind of scared knowing it was like a biopic movie and I got it out I was bringing some baggage in too I'm so like jaded by biopics at this point and maybe I was expecting something more formulaic for no like good reason and just knowing like a bunch people who like studied musical theater and like hearing horror stories and man like this main character is like such a fucking asshole um like the first 40 minutes i was like this film better not be about like that trope of the the tortured but brilliant like artist guy and look how like

difficult his shit is and he's juggling this film that he's editing as well as this musical he's working on and i was like it's that all there is to this but there comes a point in a movie where a reckoning occurs. And I'm like, oh my God, this is fucking brilliant the way this is like twisting on itself and exploring the kind of, it's self-aware. There's an exploration of this lead character who's kind of dragged through the ringer for how he's acted through these like dream sequences. And I guess we're not talking spoilers yet.

Can we talk spoilers for that jazz? Like, what's the situation here? Do you want to? I mean, it's up to you guy. I mean, I think it's very small. I'm fine with it. It's, it's been a while since it's came out, you know?

Yeah. We all liked it. Just warning, I guess. Yes. Spiler's time. Yeah, all of a sudden, make sure you check it out. But yeah, basically when the, when the health angle really comes into play and,

because there wasn't anything I was like, to be clear that I was like disliking about it. It was more because, the way it's put together was just so excellent from the word go the um the confidence the way music was being used and the the visuals to tell the story without even needing dialogue at first with that like montage with the um the like tryouts and everything and right it's just so kind of expressive in the way that was used and i still wasn't sure that is this like a straight-up musical because I knew there was like the chicago link but it's more about exploring like a character study of

this lead character. But damn, yeah, it really kind of caught me off guard and did the thing where, yeah, the way it uses music, the best example of it was like right at the end for me. And I was like on the edge of my seat by that moment. I was like, whoa, this has been such a kind of challenging, interesting, unique experience of a way of like breaking down an artist. And there was a particular line that kind of stood out for me as sort of the thesis. the movie of

what was it he allowed himself to be adored but not loved seemed to be kind of what it was exploring I thought

I did that brilliantly but what about you guys there go ahead Adam yeah I mean like I was immediately

kind of like transfixed in a interesting way because I didn't know I literally didn't know anything about this I didn't know it'd be like a musical

and so like For watching the opening scene where they're doing like the dance casting or whatever. You know, I was having a fun time knowing because this is another movie right after I felt similarly about Resident Evil just like, oh yeah, movies are great when you know everything there is to know about a character like from the first interaction they have where it's like they're using that introduction in a writing perspective. to just give you the sense of the character, which is, you know, establish it efficiently. And that was done really well with the opening scene of this film, the way he interacted with the dancers. And I found it...

I was immediately kind of glued to the editing choices with, you know, seeing conversations that you didn't hear and just kind of letting only the music play, but still understand. what was going on and still, you know, hearing or still getting the intended emotions and expression. And then it kind of does this weird kind of like time jumpy thing where you see him talking about his relationship saying, I screwed that up because I cheated every opportunity I could get

just kind of you know spliced into that moment where I'm like okay now it's doing some even weirder stuff and it sprinkles those kind of like time jumpy things throughout the film in a consistent enough way where it's like okay yeah I'm I'm digging this part of its style consistently and then as each

for first I was impressed like okay you're allowing the entire song to play for the first like two songs. And I still didn't even know it was like a musical kind of format. I was just like, oh, interesting. Usually they don't play the full song. And then as it was going, it was like, I found it to be a very smart way to present music and dance numbers. Because I felt like the extra layer of the character of the director directing these. productions and then even some musical numbers happening that he wasn't directing.

I found there to be just enough information about, you know, his health and his struggles and all of these nice little seeds that were planted before it started getting like really full force into its musical theater sort of vibe that I found myself more interested in the actual musical theater because of what was going on in the back. background simultaneously. Where like had there been less information about that character that it wouldn't be as as compelling to me? Yeah, I was I was really impressed.

Beautiful lighting, beautiful color. I've seen a lot of musicals and it's very rare that I'm like consistently impressed by the like dancing. Like there's some really unique and intricate, very impressive dance moves that I was like, oh damn, that's kind of cool, you know, or things that even just like kind of fit thematically in terms of like movements and costume and, yeah, no, it was, it was lovely to have like an extra layer on top of everything. It was very fun to watch. Right. Right. Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm glad that you guys are talking about like that intro, that sequence in terms of all the casting and it's all,

you don't hear any of the dialogue, but it's like you really understand everything that's going on. You see the producers, their reactions, you see his ex-wife and his daughter, how they're reacting to these people. There's so many little bits in there that as I was watching, I was realizing, wait a second, this is where the opening credits to a lesser version of this movie would be. They would have trimmed this sequence down. They would have had the music, but it would have been the opening credits playing over this. And that would have been so much worse. It's so much better getting to watch it almost like a silent movie. And that puts you in the mood, too, of like, the movie, as I watched this, it just flew by again.

And I've seen this a million times. But I just felt like there's no place to pause this movie because it all runs together perfectly. And it's amazing because it's not like a plot heavy film. No. But it feels like it's so musical in the editing and elliptical in the editing, the way it cuts back to the Jessica Lange, you know, Roy Scheider sequence. that's kind of like dreamy and you're kind of like, wait a second, is he talking to death? Like, where is he in this world? Like that dream stuff works so well.

And then you start to get engaged with like, how are they going to pull off this show? And in any other movie, it'd be about like, we got to get this show together and make it work. And that is not where this movie goes at all. It just kind of devolves. And you forget about the fucking play. They're trying to get John Lithgow to direct it. They're like, wait, we might make more money. If any of this guy dies.

Yeah. Yeah, why ends up not mattering all? I loved that, like, twist on it. I know. There was just something about it while I wasn't at first inherently interested in his plight to direct. There was this, like, anxious underpinning going on with this recurring routine of him abusing, like so many, he's abusing drugs, he's abusing.

Dexidre. Booze, women, all of it. Oh, yeah. And he's a piece of shit. Yeah, that recurring thing of that, yeah, it's Showtime folks. and yeah the angel of death kind of thing. It's like, what is this? Are they going to explain this?

Where's this going? And when that is completely broken open about the hour, Mark, it was like, oh, I see, I see. This is really clever. This is very unique and not like something I've seen before. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy because in any other, like, filmmakers' hands, and I wanted to bring this up because this movie fits into like a very small genre, microgenre,

of filmmakers trying to make their own eight and a half. Do you guys like eight and a half? I actually haven't seen it yet. I know that I think it's people were saying that it might have inspired some Charlie Kaufman stuff, but I don't remember. No, that's on my list for sure. Eight and a half, yeah, I mean, eight and a half is an incredible movie like masturbation. And there was a time, and eight and half is very similar to all that jazz.

Like he clearly was like, I'm going to do. my eight and a half. It's going to be about me and my struggle as an artist. Okay. Okay. But other filmmakers have done that. I don't know. There's a Woody Allen movie called Stardust Memories. It is not very good. It's also very much trying to be eight and a half. I think Injiritu kind of did his eight and a half with Bardo a couple of years ago, right? But there's just an attraction because eight and a half is such a director movie. It's literally just like, I'm a director. Oh my God. All these women want to have sex with me. Fuck my life. life. It's so hard, like, being creative, but it's so good and full of energy. And it takes a

certain type of egomaniac with an amount of introspection to be able to pull something off like this. I think all that jazz actually surpasses eight and a half personally because it is so hyper-fixated on death as a theme. And it transcends the idea of even the subject of like being a creative person and making art and the struggle of that. It's about like, what is like what is the point of any of this and why are we here on earth making the shit and torturing ourselves for what you know for some musical theater it's it's um i think it just transcends that and it would would not work if bob fossey weren't such an introspective piece of shit like and roy shiter does not play him in any sort of way that's like um yeah you know ultimately

it all works that like i'm actually kind of a good person like the movie just double down over and over and over. Like, yeah, there are good things about this guy. And it's just crazy that he made this movie about himself. And like, yeah, I suck. And I probably deserve what's coming to me. It's crazy. Yeah.

Yeah, it was that self-awareness that made it click for me because, yeah, I could only take so much of the torture genius, like, angle. Like, if it is what you're saying, if it was the, okay, he struggles getting these shows together and then you see the shows at the end. And it's that fine line of him being a, a fast. fascinating person and that performance is fucking incredible throughout the entire runtime. There's so much texture to it, but he's still an unlikable piece of shit for most of it. Like he's he's like really abusing his role in this like workplace.

And you know, if he wasn't like an attractive dude, he'd be like a Weinstein type fucking character. Yeah. Oh yeah. Oh, totally. Yeah. But you just have to be patient with it because yeah. yeah, by the time it does explode on itself, it is all pointed inward.

And just the way it's expressed through music is so creative, like these musical numbers and incorporating the hospital kind of imagery into it as well. And the dark humor of it, too. Like, I found the dark humor to be to click from the word go with like the trying to smoke in the shower. And during the doctor visits where they're both smoking and coughing. That was really funny. Yeah, you're insured, you're good. Totally healthy.

No, it's just so many small editing choices to make this movie fly by. It's really crazy. And it does feel like a magic trick where, again, watching it, I'm like, I just don't know how this works, how it flies by like this. The musical sequences, even like towards the end, you know, before the final big set piece, which is just incredible. And I love that in his final dream sequence, he's on this show that he was making fun of earlier. And like the culmination of his life and work is like, no, we're going to be this tacky, you know, TV show that, you know, anyways. But the sequence before that where his, you know, Anne Rankin and Leland Palmer and his daughter, they're doing those dance sequences, there's like four songs back to back to back to back. But it flows together so well.

It's mesmerizing. like he's sitting in his hospital bed and he's talking to himself and he's just like, okay, come on, we got to print that. Come on. Let's move on. We got to move on. It's just wild. And it doesn't like announce itself as it goes into this thing. You know, as his health devolves, as he's in the hospital, it's never like now we're going into this. It just feels like you're slipping away into death. This movie feels like you're drinking alone at night and just feeling pity for yourself. Like it's...

Yes. It's crazy. Go ahead, guys. I'm ranting. No, I mean, we love hearing you talk about hyper fixations. It's just so good. It's such an amazing movie. It blows my mind every time.

And, Anne Ranking is, she plays his girlfriend in this movie. Incredible, incredible dancer. And her performance with the daughter in their house. I forget what the song is called. but it's so sweet. And one thing that I thought was surprising, and I think a worse filmmaker would have, and maybe a filmmaker with a higher sense of, you know,

self-worth or something would have kept it in. But at the end of that sequence, you know, it's so loving and sweet, and they put on this beautiful performance for their, you know, the daughter for the dad. And it's like, it could almost move you to tears, you know, the way it's so, it's just such a nice, beautiful thing. And then right before it ends,

where it's like you could imagine, him applauding or hugging them. It just cuts. Move on to the next scene. Roy Scheider never gets that moment. Like his character, he never gets that moment of just like, you know what? I'm loved. I have these people in my life who love me until the very end of the movie when they're all

saying goodbye. And it's just this crescendo. And again, ending with that final shot of him being zipped up into the body bag. I remember the first time I saw that. I was like, fuck, that's so fucking dark and also funny. It's a bit. It's great. Yeah, that cut was brutal. It's so, like, punchy.

Yeah. The way it just cuts off. It's completely silent. The audio helps so much. And there were so many smart decisions with the sound design. Like, there was that entire scene where you just hear it was, like, breathing like the, like, like, 2001 of Space Odyssey. When he's, like, out of the, you know, in the little mini pod thing. You know, you just, you hear, you hear breathing.

just breathing over top of it. Or the scene where they're all laughing at the script that's like, horrible, and he's like breaks the pencil and all the sound design there. Exactly. You know, I was watching that thinking like, oh,

Adam's going to love this. I love sound. You love sound. I love sound, everybody. Because when you use it, well, it tells a story.

It's so expressive. You're so, like, locked into him as a character in that moment. The scratch of the metal is he, like, is embracing that pole. And,

yeah, just makes that health moment. so kind of punchy and involved. Or that sequence where you mentioned the crunching, the numbers, and it's like cross cut over the like gnarly operation. Oh shit, yeah. Cut open. That's a great like sequence.

It's just visually always engaging and expressive, I guess, most importantly. I was going to ask if anybody had any idea whether or not they filmed the real open heart surgery. Because those shots were great. Gosh, it looked quite realistic, but I'm quite squeamish. Yeah. Roy Scheider, lay down real quick. We got to get a quick shot. Won't take long.

Well, Google AI seems to say no, but I'm just trying to, I always have to fact check fucking Google AI. Yeah, you can't really trust it. I mean, it's like, such a physically demanding movie, like, viscerally so. Everyone's always covered in sweat, and there's just so much, like, movement and motion and kind of, violence too. Like I'm thinking of when he's in the hospital, when he's dragging his head along the wall and leaving that blood trail and yeah, just kind of coming to terms with this situation. Yeah, it's really fucked up. Yeah, it's crazy because the, I feel like this movie along with other, like, I could really only compare it to like a Nicholas Rogue movie, like maybe don't look now or

walk about, like a period of, especially in the 70s where filmmakers were not afraid to be like film schooly in a way, like techniques in here that are like, could be criticized as like, yeah, this is a film school thing where it's just like bold and big, like the moment when everything goes silent and you just hear him, you know, break the pencil and shuffle his feet and all that stuff. Like that is a more or less gimmick, quote unquote, that is something that I think a lot of filmmakers today are afraid to do kind of really bold editing like that, like cross-cutting that scene where they're doing the numbers with his chest being ripped open.

Like, it is obvious, but it's it's kind of funny and it works and it's big and abrasive. And I wish that more films today were a little silly with it, you know, with the editing style to do stuff like that. It's confident. It's confident. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of filmmakers just don't have confidence. is a problem like when you're doing like weird things that you know but like decisions that are not

safe pre-established kind of like oh yeah this will work for everyone you know when you take a risk you have to you have to have confidence in what you're doing you have to have a good understanding of your own abilities and what you're expressing and like believe in what you're making yeah it's it's funny you mention like the contemporary kind of film because like it kept contrasting it with Michael, you know, like the biggest, like, musical biogic of the year. Oh, yeah. And this is everything that film isn't, you know? They're like, it doesn't really delve into the person at all.

It can't be honest with itself, even though there's, like, so much introspection that could be done in that case. And that also has the distance of, like, this person has died and we're not the artist making a movie about ourselves, you know? Like, that's what's crazy that a movie made about yourself is more. introspective and critical than whatever the shit Michael is. Yes, you need some kind of conflict in there for it to be interesting or entertaining, which something like Michael just can't do.

It has to be, has to glaze whoever the subject is, where this is so self-deprecating at the heart of it. And so kind of like honest about like how he's been and just being accosted for the entire And so like, it's, yeah, it really hits. Sorry, I rephrased my question and now Google AI says it is real. I changed the wording of it. I'm still looking for a fucking source, this heart surgery. Oh, God.

It looked true. You know, my takeaway is if it was filmed in the 70s and it looks real, it probably was real. Yeah. But here's the thing. No, there's another moment where like the blood, I think it was like from his hand. And it's like smeared on the wall. It's like that looked like really real blood. Like there's some great like effects in this.

You know, like even things that couldn't possibly be real looked real as well. So you know. Yeah. Yeah. No. And I love also, and this is a bit of a different subject, but like the blocking of even simple scenes in this movie are so kinetic and perfectly done. Like no scene is treated like it's just dialogue

Like the scene with his daughter when they're dancing together And just like practicing All the mirror stuff that was awesome Oh my God Like I can't imagine how complicated that was to film And all the different setups Yeah almost like We were talking about like the complicated setups of

Buck and no other choice recently And I guess if there's another filmmaker Who's doing it like that I guess it would be him. I have the answer. Okay, tell me. John E. Hutchinson, the third, is credited in the credits for open heart surgery, additional true.

Nice. Yeah, so you can, and so everybody at home can time how long that took. That was like, that was a tough one. That took like, what, 10 minutes or under? But I got the truth by the end of it. We got there. It took a little bit, but we got the truth. AI is making everything easier, in fact.

It's making lies of all of us. No, yeah, I can't find. It's so fucking. People just don't want to think anymore. We have the ability. We have like more tools at our disposal than ever to be able to come to be able to learn the truth about anything. Nobody cares. If you hadn't checked and done fact checking, we would have just thought it was a fake heart and we wouldn't have credited that guy for opening his heart literally for this.

film. Yeah. No, it's a perfect movie. I don't know what else to say. Like, there's one moment in this movie that rang false to me. Oh. And it was, it never did before, but for some reason in this moment it did. It was after the big set piece of when he's showing to the producers the scene from the show that they're going to do, you know the one where they all get top and they do their sexy dance. Great, great sequence. But then right at the end, he goes over, like they're like, yeah, that was really interesting, Joe.

That was interesting. Then he goes over to his ex-wife, and she looks at him and she has tears in her eyes, and she was like, that might be your best work, you bastard. And I was like, no, no. Like in that moment, I was like, this is a little too much, Bob Fossi. Like you choreographed this, you did all this, you can't have the fictional version of your ex-wife cheerfully be like, that was amazing. Cairn fiction.

Every other scene in this movie doesn't do that, you know, but that was the one moment where it leaned a bit into like, I'm kind of the shit. Yeah, in that moment, I wasn't even sure if that was like supposed to be literal even. I would have like dreamy and these dream sequences are like interspice between. I wasn't even sure at that point. But yeah, I'd have to rewatch it, I guess. But those are really cool each time Lange was coming in, all lying. Yeah, I love the visuals of that because, yeah, she did look like an angel, an angel of death. You don't really have the full context of it.

A lot of other movie just didn't click into place until it did. And then it was like blowing my mind. That bye-bye happiness sequence is a really powerful moment, the way that came together. And like, just reincorporating so much stuff that had been. been just set up throughout the movie, like the stages of grief kind of stuff coming back around itself. And yeah, it was just such an incredible payoff that felt that just made everything feel worth it.

Two comments here. One, if I didn't say the one line at the beginning of the episode, I think we just lost the family audience. I would have said, the brass is eating my ass out, which was another funny line. I thought you're going to say I wish you weren't so generous with your car. That was an interesting one too. Yeah, that's funny.

That was such a good line reading. The way her voice is so raspy. It's so funny. Yeah, good lines to choose from. It's a funny movie. It's got some good funny, funny lines. Like, the guy who plays the piano, who's doing the music,

like the way he hams it up every time. Oh, my God. So. Yeah. But then there's that kind of that empathy in that raw sweetness when we see Joe he's going into his open heart surgery

and then we see them the producers talking to all the cast and everything and then the guy's like, let's play a hospital song and we'll do a little dance and just kind of like liven things up and be happy. And I love that there's those little moments where we get to see comments from the dancers who are just like,

well, there goes my new apartment. You know, like fuck, I turned down at TV show this. Like there's like real people getting charged. turned up in the wake of this guy fucking up his life and not, you know, slowing down, not having balance in his life. And he's, he's, like, aware of it. And it's too late.

It's too late. And now you have John Lithgow's evil John Lithgow walking in, trying to steal the show. No, all that stuff. It is just surprisingly raw and reflective in a way that I just, yeah, it's really impressive. Yeah. Yeah, no, I very much enjoyed this movie. The, I found, how do you feel about like the kind of perspective on death that it shows? Because I was kind of noting that like when when it was kind of described to him in these hallucinations, it was always from his perspective.

of loss, like, you'll miss them when they're dead. I'm like, what about, like, they'll probably miss you too. It was still kind of like inherently selfish in the character's subconscious, which was interesting, but like, I don't know. It felt like there was the counterpoint between, yeah, those dialogue scenes, of course, but also the counterpoint with the musical sequences near the end where she seems like, one day you're going to miss me, daddy. Yeah.

that it's like they're trying to, it's almost like they're trying to break through. And at that point, he's in the hospital bed. He can barely even speak. And this other version of himself is like directing the show. Like, oh, yeah, he's fine with it. We got to move on. We got to move on. Like this kind of like deep cynical sadness.

But his family just like, look what you're missing. Like, it's all going to be gone. And then before he can even realize it, it's too late. And I think that's just devastating. It makes it feel like the character's never really thought about it. own mortality and it's all getting him like a brick wall at once for this like utter reckoning. It's so like conclusive and it is his ego kind of like the mirror being held up to himself and just the harshness of that is what makes it so effective because it is like you don't get to

do this twice. What's your favorite dance number? Oh, by happiness, like the ending one for sure for me. I think it's probably the one with, um, shit, I don't know. something special about each of them. I know they're all so different, which is fun. Yeah. I like the one when they're dancing in his apartment.

Same. That's my favorite. That one stood out to me because the context around it is so different for them, like, just dancing just for him. And also, I love how these characters used the entire. wall to wall space. You know, they go from like literally the corner in one room all the way to the other corner in a way where it's just like, you know, like they're making up for the fact that

like it's a small apartment and not a stage by just using it to its fullest extent. And there's something kind of cute about that in terms of like a character expression, you know? No, you think like, yeah, we're shooting a dance sequence just in an apartment in one room. And the way, there's like a million camera setups. It's done so well. It's funny, you look at some reviews at the time of this movie, and people were criticizing Bob Fossi's editing because of how it chopped up the musical sequences. And it's so funny because it just, I feel like it enhances it.

It never feels like it detracts from it. You get to see everything you want to see, but it adds an extra punch. compared to a lot of the way musicals are edited now. That just feels like, all right, we got coverage. You know, let's get coverage of this. Yeah. Never feels like that here. Exactly.

Well, interesting fact about this movie. It won the Palm Door. Yes. Tied. In 1980. Yeah, not the only one. It tied with Kagamusha, Kurosawa. Weird.

Weird to think that these movies came out the same year. Sure, yeah. You guys seen Kagamusha? No. Oh, yeah, it's good. It's good. Good shit, man. I should watch it.

It's long. People say it's kind of his warm up for Ron, but I actually like Kagamusha a little more than Ron. Okay. Both good movies. I might as well. Yeah. Thanks for the rag. Anyways, I'm just stoked that you guys enjoyed this and getting in a

excuse to watch it again was just amazing. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Thanks for the wreck. That was great. Yeah. You can cross that off my list. What would you guys rate all that jazz?

Nine. Yeah, I think I might be there too with a four and a star nine. I just love how it was willing to get weird with it. Experimental and strange. One of the best endings I've seen in a while. Yeah, quite different and incredible. Awesome. Yeah, this probably was a nine for me for,

a long time, but it's definitely just it's a 10 now. It's got to be. Sometimes you just got to bump it up just for like, you know, it's just respect. If you've watched it 10 times, then yeah. It's like, at one point you have to realize like

okay, yeah. This is one of my favorite movies, yeah. It's not a nine anymore. Yeah. Boy, fix. Yeah, thanks guys. Thank you. All right. Yeah, that was a sick pick. You want to do questions? I do.

Yeah, let's do some questions then from the Southern cast community. Head over to the suggestion thread over on the subreddit if you want to leave questions for future episodes. It's just like ready journalist 5223 did who says, for Adam and Alex, Jake is the one who seems to be most unfamiliar with video games. If you could strap him in clockwork orange style and force him to play one game all the way through, what would it be? Oh, that's a good question. Yeah. There were a few video game ones because there isn't evil. discussion but um i've got a couple you guys wouldn't do that to me you guys wouldn't do that

force him to play yeah i was thinking about the playing angle like the the two suggestions i would have one is quite like a difficult game mechanically yeah get into it's quite a lot um that being like i feel like you would love red dead one and two like as a western fan oh okay um true yeah that's another one red dead my dad played that i remember watching my dad play red dead a lot i can't believe Yeah, it's kind of tough to play. There's a lot with that. What would you say, Adam? You can't watch.

He's watching his dad play Red Day. I mean, I was old enough. I could have played it myself, but I was just like, I don't want to play it. I just didn't like playing it. Your dad's a gamer. That's awesome. Not really.

I mean, sometimes he would, but definitely more than I did. Resident Evil and Red Day. Yeah. Good taste. Just games that start with our. E. But the other one I, anyone could play really, I can think of is disco illusion. Okay.

It's mostly reading, to be honest. Yeah, no, I'm looking forward to that one. Is that like a dance, a dance game, disco? No. Not quite. No, it's very story heavy. It's fucking incredible. It's like dance dance, oh, dance revolution.

I was into that growing up. The Star Wars version? I played that. No, just like the normal version. I'm Han Solo. I'm high and so. Flashback. Yeah.

Look, I think Jake would get a kick out of aspects of Mass Effect maybe, but I don't know. Like, it's a good story. There's enough. There's enough in it that's compelling, you know. But also. I don't know. Like my, my favorite game

is Halo Combat Evolved. I don't know if Jake would enjoy that much. I had a friend who played Halo and he'd want to

want me to play it every time we were at his house and I'm just like, yeah, I don't know, man. Yeah,

yeah. And then my second favorite game, which is like, I think like a really meaningful experience is the witness. But that game

is very polarizing for people. Yeah, it's a tough one. But I love it. And I think, like, I think it's incredible. Is it about Harrison Ford being on an onish farm? No, it's like, it's a puzzle game that, like, it forces you to think outside the box in really clever ways.

And it's meaningful in the sense that it kind of like, almost just like, it's so difficult to describe. It's so difficult to describe. Jonathan Blow is a developer that's really interesting. and sometimes what he's like requesting you to do to like progress in the game is something that like you wouldn't even think of doing like in the confines of a video game which I find super interesting yeah I'm too stupid for his games yeah fucking uh blueprints was so much fun too I haven't fully beaten that yet but yeah no I don't have a great answer just because like if you don't play video games what I'm not going to force you to play a video like the witness I don't know how long

would it take you to fucking beat the witness I like game I like games that are really stupid and I don't have to think about them I just like you know I like roller coaster tycoon sure I like I like I like I like fall guys I've never played fall guys I don't know sure okay One you might like is inside, actually. That's quite a cool. Like experience game. Inside? Quite that much.

Yeah. Yeah, it's called Inside. It's more about like the art design and the kind of atmosphere of it. That's kind of thing actually challenging. You guys ever play Slender Man? Yeah. Briefly. Yeah.

Well, that's the only way to play it briefly. Yeah. Because it was so scary. I cried. I remember that was like a thing. That was like a trend. like all right go into your computer room turn off all the lights play slender man that was fun I like that get Fnaff out I remember growing up watching my dad play

slender man my dad did not play slender man okay there's some good suggestions in there let's do this one from Joe R.C. What movie that had a director's name as a producer do you think tricked people the most Like Jordan Peel on him. The most famous one is that people thought Nightmare Before Christmas was directed by Tim Burton. Oh, yeah. That's a good pick. And Pizza does things replied to that saying that ugly live action Ninja Turtles film

duology from 2014 and 2016, a great example of this. People constantly call them the Michael Bay movies, even though he was just a producer. Yeah, it's weird when this happens. It's all like just marketing, isn't it? I can think of like when a man of, speaking of Snyder, when a man of steel was coming out, like Nolan's name was plaster all over it. to capitalize on the dark night stuff. There's like a ton of Spielberg movies.

Spielberg's done that with a ton of movies. Oh yeah. Goonies, polter guys. Gooning. The actual Bay Transformers movies. I remember his name plastered over those Spielberg. Absolutely. Yeah.

Yeah, no, it happens like sometimes with like James 1 and like horror, horror people. There was a period in time where American audiences very few of them were like starting to recognize that like Asian movies existed and to get them in theaters you'd have to have like a big name American director like champion and like pull strings in Hollywood to get them over there. So then you'd have you literally have to like in order to get people to see it like I guess like a contractual obligation with the distributors would be like okay yeah well we're putting your name in the trailer so you'd have like Martin Scorsese's name in some like Asian movie.

From a guy who watched the movie comes. Bongchun hose. Yeah. Yeah. I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure on like TV. Like I swear this happened. This is like a weird memory where like you can literally see on the poster for hero on IMDB like a Chinese movie.

You can literally see Quentin Tarantino presents, right? Jet Li, hero on the poster right now. But I swear I saw like a TV spot or something that was like Quentin Tarantino's fifth film like they were counting it in his filmography like I'm not even kidding. It was insane. But yeah, in terms of like the biggest most egregious example, I would have to say nightmare before Christmas just because people still believe that, you know. Yeah, I do feel sad for Selleck on that one. Yeah, he does not get the current deserves for it. Yeah, I feel like, I feel like Ridley Scott's name is on like a bunch of shit like he produces like all the time. Right.

I do wonder like, what, is it just like a contract thing? Is it just advertising? Like, are they even watching this shit at the wall? It's kind of a funny thing to think about. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Vince is depressed, has one for us.

I don't know if Adam's going to like this very much. With the opening of George Lucas's museum, are any of you interested in visiting? Could it be a Sardonicar special? Adam, please don't get mad at all the Star Wars there. It belongs in a museum. I would actually love to go. It looks fucking cool.

Like, the whole building and everything. It's like, this is like a cool, like a thing you set up there. I don't really want to go to America at the moment. What does the building look like? The Death Star? No, it's like a, it's quite an avant-garde sort of building. It looks really cool. Yeah.

Yeah, it's awesome. It looks like a mass effect building. Yeah, it does actually. Like literally, it looks like it's from mass effect. Yeah. No, I think it's cool. Did you guys see the clip of, it made me laugh so hard. I just saw it on Twitter, but it was a clip of some reporter,

like five second clip of a reporter looking at art of like Phantom Menace and being like, how does all of this come out of your brain? And it just goes, I don't know. Yeah. He literally just sounds like a kid. I don't know. He's a billionaire. I love George Lucas.

He's fucking hilarious. He's an adorable artist. Yes. Yeah, we should do our next podcast at the spaceship. Oh, George Lucas, Spaceship Museum. I'll apply to record there. Okay, cool. Yeah, if I can do it from a pod racer, that would be ideal.

Oh, my God. Yeah. Now that would be pod racing. Yeah. Yeah, that does that cool. Yeah. Where is it? It's in LA.

Oh. Then I'm less interested. Yeah. Okay. Let's do this one from Bena Bramowitz, 18, who says, What movie made way more of the box office than you remember? I was a different person before I realized that Roland Emmerich's 2012 made $700 million. Yeah.

Sorry, $750 million back in 2009. Domestic? Yeah. Probably not domestic. Yeah, that would be crazy. Yeah, that was a weird trend that capitalized on like apocalypse. Specifically about the year 2012 because of the Mayan calendar. I remember I used to be scared of that shit.

Like that was to play on like a misconception. Like a cut that was to put that was literally just like we're making a movie based off of a common misconception that people have. I literally felt like this might actually be it for me. Like I was I was like why are they making a movie about this shit? This is scary like this is serious. I was like this could happen guys I don't know I mean there's always like doomsday cults flirting around Yes weirdly popular

Yeah like uncharted I'm shocked that that made money Like so much that's a good pick Yeah yeah I did not deserve Did not deserve it What like popped into my head was like The Meg or something That made like 530 million. That was for China.

I guess giant shark movies. Yeah. Or like that era where the rock was in everything and they were all just making like shitloads of money. Yeah. Like skyscraper. Oh, that was funny. Skyscraper made like $300 million.

I helped. Yeah, I was there on that one. Day one. I just feel like we're in such a new era for film. Like when we even talk about like, you know, like Captain Marvel. was made a billion dollars. Like, can't even conceive of that now.

Like, the B-tier comic book movies, like, it's just a totally different world. Well, Aquaman made like a billion bucks. Like, I just, I don't feel like it just wouldn't happen now. No.

Hell no. It was just all, like, timing. Yeah. Or, like, stumbling across that Brett Ratner, Hercules movie that made, like, hundreds of millions of dollars. Sorry, what?

When did this come out? Yeah. Speaking of films, the Rock made like a Hercules movie in the 2010s that like, I guess was successful. Brett Ratner direction. Oh. What? 2014. Yeah.

It's fucking weird. Okay. Do we think that Tom Cruise is going to have his The Rock moment when The Rock did Smashing Machine and like didn't even get nominated for any? Do you think Tom Cruise is going to have that with Digger? Ooh. Because it seems like it's super divisive. Yeah, it's made me more excited to see it, actually. Is he expecting to get an Oscar nom for it?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, come on. That's kind of the vibe I'm getting is like he wants it to be like a critical darling kind of. Sure. I don't know. It's going to be like. It's confusing what it even is. Dr. Strangelove meets burden ban or something.

Yeah. Do you guys like Iniori 2? I love it. How are you on Enior? Yeah. Like not everything's like a blow my socks off sort of thing. But like I, he's. His own thing and it's different and interesting enough and I love the cinematography and his films and yeah like it's

He doesn't check all the boxes for me, but I'm always there to in yeah, yeah, I love him. I love him. Cool. I mean, I've there's never been an Inuri too. I've I've loved I haven't seen any of his early stuff, but oh I like bird man. Amorris paris is awesome. Yeah, that one's awesome. I haven't seen a Morris. Yeah, I know. I need to see that. But I really didn't like the revenant when I when I saw that when it came out. I love it. Yeah, I like The Revenant. I like Birdman. I don't know.

Someone about the way Digger looks. It looks bad. Like visually. Yeah. Well, the marketing's bad. They don't know how to market it. The marketing's really bad. It seems like they don't know how to.

Yeah. Like, it's, that's kind of the expectation with like in your I or two film. Like, is there like, how do we, how do we, it looks like what I'm going to find funny out of it is not going to be able to communicate in a short trailer unless you play like a full scene or something, which they didn't do, right? They're showing like tiny little moments. Like, I'm sure there's going to be better like setups and payoffs and things in context are going to be more interesting. Or maybe it's going to be a big piece of shit. I don't know. But like, I trust in Yari too enough that I don't think it's going to be horrendous. Like the trailer

looks bad, but it doesn't make me think the film's going to be bad sort of thing. Yeah, I'm intrigued either way. Oh my God, but I just saw the budget. Holy fuck. 100 billion? 25 million. No. 125 million dollars.

Okay. Wow. Cool. We'll see about that one. I mean, John Goodman, he asks a lot, you know. True. Christ, okay. Anyways, I'm digger.

We'll see. Yeah, we'll see. That's coming out soon. Yeah. Hell yeah. Very hyped. Mm-hmm. Um,

might get oh there's a selfish one for me from a hot spirit one two two six Alex seeing the recent like a film wildwood is coming out soon it's made me question which my favorite like a film is personally mine is caroline and this traumatized music here i was curious what yours and even the castes is caroline i don't really like any of the other ones that much they all look like beautiful but they just don't really have stories that stick with me coralline's the only one that really does although wildwood looks holy fuck it looks incredible um visually anyway. I was going to say, my favorite is Wildwood, which is not out yet.

I don't think I've seen any of them. I've never saw Coraline. Really? Yeah, I mean, the animation's fucking beautiful in all of them. The problem is they should start with a well-polished, perfect script and then start animating. Is they just, that's the consistent problem. Well, yeah, Coraline is like based off a book.

So I had like a backbone. A lot of the other ones I think are original. Yeah. Yeah, we'll see. This one's based off of a novel, Wildwood. Oh, cool. Hopefully that's like PG-13. Fixes that story problem for me.

But they don't make money. Like a Lyca films don't make money. The most profitable one, I think, is Coraline. They're in kind of a Wes Anderson situation where there's like a backer with money. I think it's like the son of, yeah, it's like the son of like the CEO of Nike. or something. Like a suspiciously wealthy furry, just commissioning.

Right. Yeah. So I hope it's as good as it looks. It's, I don't know if you've seen the metrics of the trailer on YouTube, but it has an insane amount of views for a trailer.

Yeah. I don't know how to explain that one. I mean, it looks great. The music hits. Yeah, it looks incredible. And maybe it's like the perfect timing for something old school, like stop motion.

So, especially with like this hatred of AI, like it's like this perfect like crossover point of people wanting something like real and it doesn't really get more real than what they're doing with that. So fingers crossed. And also like people kind of turning on Pixar style too. Yeah. Yeah, true. Well, it's easy to turn on Pixar style when every other day you see some insane bullshit AI slop of like a giant hoking dude and his little tiny girlfriend. It's just it's it just looks like. It's just, it's so annoying. Wildwood gets PG-13 rating. 132 minutes. What the fuck? Wait, really? I'm going to have to fact check that. Well, that was on World of Real.

I'm just going to see if it matches on IMDB. But, wow. That's insane. Two hours, 12 minutes. That's nuts for stop motion. Wow, we. Yeah, that's. What's the budget?

Holy fuck. Okay. Yeah, really fucking high budget, I imagine. Jesus. That's quite incredible. Yeah, hopefully it's like an ambitious plot then. Awesome. I'm looking forward to that.

Oh, yeah. I'm curious your guys take on this one from Manners Makeeth Man. Have you guys seen that the end of Oak Street got an alternate cut for its UK release? Saw on Twitter that some strong injury detail was cut from the UK showings in order to get 12A ratings. Ew. Had no idea. We'd even missed anything until now. They detail what the scene is, but it's a spoiler.

so I will kind of twist it here. A character gets a leg, like, bitten off in the US version, but that definitely isn't shown in the UK one. Have you ever heard of something like this happening before for a UK release? So, yeah, I didn't twig this, and I can back up to that. It doesn't happen in the version I saw. But I rewatched it the other day, and that version did have the leg removal scene,

and I was like, I don't remember that. happening. That seems like something I remember. Yeah. No, the UK censors tons of stuff and they call it Zutropolis and got rid of Peter Moosebridge. That one's less egregious than the whole leg thing. But yeah, that's weird. I don't see why that's necessary, but okay. I guess this just happens sometimes I just won't notice Yeah I mean like That's why it takes two extra months for A24 to put the movie there

It's so they can get rid of all these naughty bits Yeah Uh-huh That's yeah that's weird Andy Burnham get on it Fix us Put the put the leg Eating the leg back into end of Oak Street

Come on Well yeah I was almost felt like gaslit When I rewatched it the other day I'm saying, I really don't remember that happening. Maybe I'm just remembering it wrong. Yeah, that's weird. Yeah, it's weird than that happens. Oh, and this is kind of an interesting one from the Resident Evil angle.

MCV mate says, What makes the Resident Evil adaptation taking liberties with the source material fine when compared something like the Halo TV show? Sorry, what? How could you eloquently put that? taking liberties with the source material compared to something like the Halo show. Oh, well, yeah, the Halo TV show, the liberties taken were not in the interest of someone expressing something because they wanted to make something fun or interesting or anything.

The liberties taken with the Halo TV show were to stretch it out so that they could film it as cheaply as fucking possible, right? and like dumb things down for the audience, have him take off his fucking helmet so that fucking geriatric grandma can remember exactly which character's stalking. Like, Jesus Christ, those are the creative liberties. Fucking master cheeks so that Royal Renee

could jerk off in the two episodes he directed. Jesus. It was so late. Yeah, that's why. Yeah, it's like you always just justified the changes. I've got one episode left and then I'll have finished both seasons. I'm still going.

It's taken me a few years. I didn't even make it through season two. Oh, my God. Yeah, I gave up after the Reach episode. Whatever, whatever the watchalong videos get edited, it'll be like my own 70 up or boyhood. You'll see different stages. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, there is a line with that shit, like, just taking it too, oh, just so egregiously, like, you can kind of tell, as we were saying during that resident.

discussion like he clearly at least gives a shit about the games on some level you know whereas like that that halo one is like I don't even know you ever played on these games it seems like you hate this little material give IPs to creatives right have the showrunners be people that want to express something and not just like you know well we have an IP let's get these random people to just like use the title and that's it fucking amazon lord of the rings like What the hell were you guys thinking? Yeah, that's another one I gave up on. Jesus Christ.

It's just too much shit. Yeah. Well, should we do one more here? Let's do one more. One more. One more. Let's end on this one from Foreal. I'm dying.

What do you think the next wave of IP mining will be after they've adapted most of the biggest video games? Yeah. So I've been talking about the video game Onslaught for years now. It's like finally being cracked open. I'm giving us like a quality movie, but they'll run out of stuff. soon enough, just like the superior stuff kind of, start petering out. What's next? Brain rot memes.

YouTube videos. Advice animals, characters. Tintun Tsun Sehor movie. When bad luck Brian gets his own film. When Mr. Beast movies, doing books, you might as well do a movie next. Four Chan memes. I've literally been working on a Mr. Beast video this month for about the book. So I've been reading the book.

I went to the supermarket and got jump scared by that like a Mr. Bees like cut out with that fucking book I was like oh my god sorry he made a he wrote a book you don't know but he wrote a book well someone wrote a book so he's doing a book it's the most ghost written book ever

it's James Patterson who has a whole team of ghost writers for all of his books and Mr. Bees co-authored thriller yeah Mm-hmm. Oh, ew. Yeah.

What? Yeah. It's like... It's so fucked up. What? Yeah. God damn it. Yeah, I was looking at like...

So I go, I get jump scared by the cutout with his book, and then I go down a different aisle. And then there's like, Mr. Beast's like jerky and like chocolate. It's like, oh, my fucking God, I can't escape. Feastables. Fucking man. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay.

In terms of movie adaptations, I do feel like people are going to... I'm so pissed. Studios are going to be mining like the kind of backroom shit on the internet. And it's just going to become stuff that people of our generation and younger are nostalgic about. You know, like, what are you nostalgic about from your childhood? You know, it's like stuff you... Porchand memes. There you go.

Well, really? Okay. They're going to make a movie about Tub Girl. I don't know what that is. You don't look at it Sounds funny though Tub girl Please don't look at it

I won't Yeah Yeah I don't know There's gonna be bullshit But The thing is We think our generation is immune From the nostalgia

shit But it's I don't know They're just gonna find new ways They're gonna find new ways To rope us in They were not immune from it at all No

No I mean like My fucking millennials were the one that saw fucking Lion King 2019. Millennials are the worst for it. Yeah. Like our entire childhood was products. Millennials are the most like wistful. We're the generation of Pokemon.

You know, we're like the most fine-tuned, well-oiled machine of how to brainwash children into attaching themselves onto an intellectual property for their entire lifetime. Like that was the peak. That was when it was like at the strongest. Nothing will ever top that.

Man, it's generational now too. Like, it didn't stop. Like, it was just every child from that on. That set the stage, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I guess, like, when you look at, like, the biggest IP and shit now, it's like Roblox. Like, that's, like, what kids are playing, you know?

Like, and they're making, like, games in Roblox. So there'll be, like, a creepypast, the horror story game made within Roblox. and that will be like the movie that would be focused tested into being like this will be the next big one, you know. GTA6, the movie before the game comes out.

I'm actually shocked we haven't had a Grand Theft Auto or Call of GT Movie. Speaking of, I think they're working on a cod one, but, Mr. Beast uploaded a YouTube short titled, Read My Book, you could win a million dollars. As a part of the contest, the books readers can participate in weekly challenges

based on clues in the book to win a book. million dollar prize. And it still debuted at number three on the best sellers list New York Times. Fucking loser. That was kind of a flop. Who wants to read it? It literally reads like they got a ghost writer who is like, okay, can you write a book? That's like a Mr. Beast video and make it like, like you can feel like the writer they got,

their only note was like, just make it like fun and fast and engaging. Like every scene is. Like a kid would want to read it. Like a kid. Yeah. But it's like you can't you can't write a book like a Mr. Beast video is edited Put it in some jump cuts. It comes across so disjointed and it's fucking obnoxious as shit.

Like every there's like every paragraph is one sentence and like one line. It reads like a really bad screenplay. Like they're trying to write it like a screenplay. That's awesome. To be like, this is engaging. This is intense. And Mr. Beast is a character in the book. Oh, I can't go on.

Yay. He literally is a character in the book. And he's like one of the main characters. Is he named Mr. Beast or Jimmy Donaldson? He's Jimmy Donaldson and he literally swims with sharks and does these insane challenges. That's kind of interesting because it's like the fake version of himself is now like the mask is the real person and he's swapped identities. Because on the cover of the book, he's named Mr. Beast. And now he's delegated his real name as a character.

in fiction. So he's like he's done the the transformation, right? He's metamorphosize. Yeah. That's what the point of the mosque is. It's like it when you read it, you're like, this would be weirder if Mr. Beast actually wrote the book because of how he writes himself as a character. What's up, guys? First line of the novel. The novel starts with just a list of the characters and like who they are so that people don't get confused. What? Yeah, it's just like a list of like the character. And it's not like a ton of characters, but it's like, this is this person.

This is this person. And the American guy, his name is Jack McHenry. Yeah. It's like, you know what? I'm just going to stop talking about this because I could go on. Oh, yeah. No, this sounds great. You're making a video on this?

I need to save the rage for my video. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah, yeah. Let us know what it's in. Yeah, I'm looking for it's that video because I'm not reading that bullshit. it. That sounds great. So I'm in hell.

You know. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, it's it's, yeah. I didn't make it very far into season two of Beast Games. I might pick that back up at some point. I don't know. You should. And it's funny because the book has the same problems as Beast Games

where it's like there will be challenges in the book that are just like, okay, now we're just going to do random elimination. Like literally, it's the same exact problem. It's so stupid. This game involves like a toy ball or will you take a million dollars just other people can't have it? And they'll be mad at you if you do it. One of the games is they just sit in a room and play games against an AI.

Like they play checkers against an AI. Is it thrilling? It's so fucking engaging. Yeah. I can't not pay attention. What is the blurb? Sorry to like Lingrangs. Like what is the actual like, what's the elevator pitch of the story?

I'm so confused. It's like squid game. It's like squid game. Oh, you're joking. Yeah, that's what I assume from the title. No, literally the setup is a bunch of random people get invited to do a game. It's like squid game. And the winner gets a billion dollars, but they also become the one because it proves that you can save humanity.

as if somehow giving a person a billion dollars that they're going to now save humanity. And also, there are no rules. And then Jimmy is, he's just invited to host the games. But then all of a sudden, plot twist early in the book, you are part of the games too. Oh, holy shit. Sorry, wait a minute. Like, the whole purpose is to find a person to give a billion dollars so that they can save the world rather than just using the billion dollars for like saving the world. Because there's like wars and shit.

Wait. And it's, yeah. No, this is propaganda to like reinforce the idea that like, oh, if you just give one person all the money, they'll do like some good things probably. Adam, Adam, you have no idea. Absolutely. Fuck Mr. Beast, you piece of shit. Holy fuck. Oh, my God.

Actual propaganda. It would be on parody. I don't know what this. Like, yeah, billionaires are like, they'll, they can help you. Give me a billion dollars. I haven't finished it yet. So, you know, maybe it ends on like, it's wokely. It's the list.

Wokely. Fuck me. That's rough. How far are you through the books? You know, I'm almost done. I'm taking notes. It's a process. It's like 800 pages.

This is sad. It's like 400 pages, but it's literally like one page is just like the worst dialogue. And then every line is its own paragraph. It's just like, then he ran. But then he thought, no way. And then it's just, it's written like bullshit, like screenplay. It literally says like when there's a beat in the dialogue, it just will say beat, kind of like you're reading the screenplay.

Oh, what? Yeah, it's just late. It's just hack work. What the fuck? That's great. I love bad writing. I love bad writing more than good writing. It's probably up my alley.

You guys would probably get a kick out of it. It would probably take you like a couple of hours to read. it's really not okay I'll wait a few months and find it in a charity shop for 50p or something there you go free with every feastable purchase yeah which I'm never gonna buy also no not even curious all right thanks for the questions that was fun yeah yeah that was good that was good Alex I think it's your wreck it's my wreck right okay cool get wrecked um are you gonna wreck it so my wrecked um I'm gonna wrecked uh I'm gonna wrecked uh I'm to, yeah, wreck it Ralph.

No, no. My wreck is 1993's Bad Boy Bubby, Australian film led to by Rolf DeHere. Bad boy Bobby. I've never heard of this. But it's on my watch list.

As everything is. Yeah. Is this like a bad movie or is this a good, good movie? Australians like it, so. Yeah. Be that. So it sucks, now just kidding. Have you seen it?

I haven't actually seen it, but my Australian family members always talk about it. Oh, cool. It sounds like the title is something that you just repeat to yourself all day. This sounds like an Alex phrase. True, that's probably why. Yeah, bad boy buppy. Yeah, that name always to stand out to me. It's my little stem.

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