Sardonicast - Sardonicast #25: The House that Jack Built, Bandersnatch, Shallow Grave

Episode Date: January 16, 2019

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Three, two, one. Sardonicast is the most disappointing thing since my son. Yes. Did I get the quote right? Was it the most disappointing thing or the worst thing? Yeah. Could have been the worst. I don't remember.

I didn't have time to confirm what it actually was. We're Sardinicast. I just woke up. Happy New Year. First podcast of 2019. I'm Adam from your movie sex. There's some more great movies. More awesome.

films. Yeah, I'm Ralph from Alpha Movie Maker, YouTube.com slash Ralph the Movie Maker. And I'm Alex from Aichi. Wow, here we are, everybody. We made it. It's been like a year, pretty much. I think we started the podcast close to

this point in time. Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. Blu. Yeah. The Golden Globes happened. That's how we feel about it. Yeah, man. Golden Globes, they did a thing. Nobody cares. It's like the least

important awards show. No one cares. I watched 10 minutes of it. I can't stomach it. Andy Sandberg and uh, Sandra Oh, were just awful. They were just awful. Yeah. I couldn't even, I couldn't stand by it. After eight minutes, I shut it off. Yeah, I guess.

I mean, like, even if we're not going to talk about the entertainment aspect of the actual awards show, the award means nothing. I mean, the Oscars already means nothing, but this means even less somehow. It's a drunk rehearsal for the Oscars. That's what the Golden Globes is. Yeah, I guess so.

Like, when something like the tourist with Johnny Depp can get nominated, and it's obviously just a paid spot, you know? No, I think it's because they wanted Angelina Jolie and Johnny Depp to show up, and the only way they could get them to show up is to nominate the movie. That's what I thought. Maybe. That was my theory. Yeah, that's embarrassing.

But they do shit like that all the time. Yeah. The only Golden Gloves that I enjoyed were the ones. ones that Ricky Jervais hosted, which I think that those were awesome. Yeah, he just called out the award show. He called Bill Gibson an alcoholic before he went on stage. Oh my God. That was so good. It was staged, doesn't he? Yeah, it was hilarious. Alfonso won best director, I guess. That'll probably happen at the Oscars too, but Christian Bale thanked Satan, supposedly. Yeah, I heard about that, but what does that mean? It means he thanked Satan. I didn't watch. I didn't watch.

it, so... Me neither. Oh, right. We're just guessing. No, he did think... I mean, he was playing Dick Cheney, right? Maybe he was saying it in Dick Cheney's character. I think it might have been a commentary on Dick Cheney

rather than being like, Hail Satan. It was like a notch above Satan. What a mess. What a fun show. Speaking of fun award shows, Daddy Derek has created the 420 Awards. awards.

Yeah. And we're all going, obviously. No. We've all been invokes. I'm scared. I would never want to be in the same room as him. Why is it called the 420 Awards? Why?

Because it's about weed. I thought it's whole brand thing was that it's... I know it's about weed, but since when was Daddy Derek like... He's been in... He's been in L.A. too long. L.A., that's the link. You're in L.A. for two weeks. You become a fucking pothead like him.

I don't know. think he's trying to change his brand. I think this has always been something he's interested in. If you look on his IMDB, he's responsible for some documentary, like before Cool Cat called Medical Marijuana.

Does it work? Stuff like that. So he's very pro weak. He just doesn't talk about it all the time. But I do think it's funny that he's continuing to use the Cool Cat Funhouse YouTube channel to promote this drug

awards show. Yeah, I thought I was losing my mind when I saw it in my subscription feet. I couldn't believe it. Yeah, he doesn't understand what's funny, though. It's appropriate. I think he's just like, well, no one will see this if I don't post it here, so. I think some people think he's embracing the meme in a way or something, but I never know with that guy.

No, I don't think that's the case. It's just kind of crazy. The documentary he made about Pott is why I think he's still being genuine. like this is obviously something that he's had interest in so it's a very interesting unique idea somebody needs to go to that that's not us somebody if you're if you're in uh Vegas or in the area you need to attend that award show and you need to take some clips on your phone or something you need to live tweet it you need to you need to report back because I am very interested I would love to see this award show.

He said he's going to pay for like 300-seat arena or something crazy like that. Yeah, possibly a thousand. I don't know. A thousand. Just a bunch of memas will show up. Yeah, he says that celebrities will be there, but his definition of a celebrity is a little loose. It'll be Eric Estrada and Vivek-K-Fox. Exactly.

Cool cat's a celebrity. And Cool cat. And bitch the bully. It will be there. Well, not the guy who. actually plays cool cat. It'll be daddy Derek dressed up as cool cat and he'll be like I'll be right back guys and he'll walk off stage and then daddy Derek will come out. He'll come out with like a yak yak back playing cool cat quotes. Yeah. Yeah somebody's got to go. I apparently it'll be

live streamed. That's what he's saying he wants to do although I don't know if he's capable of live streaming considering he doesn't know how to do that. Yeah I don't know if that'll happen. I think he'll intend on doing it and then no one will see anything and it'll be just cut off from the rest of the world and people will be concerned for those inside. But exciting, I guess. I guess let's talk about the house that Jack built because apparently you guys disagree with me on that one. Yeah, people want us to talk about it.

Yeah. It's like Alex and I are the guys who don't like Lars von Trere as much as you and we thought it was pretty great. That's really funny actually. It was like Lord's von True making a comedy. It was like a comedy. It was one of the best comedies of the year. That's for 2018.

It was. It was obviously sick, too. There was lots of really disturbing or horrible shit in it that really got a visceral reaction out of me. But it was also really funny. And that was the point. Yeah, it was like absurd. It alleviated some of the problems I've had with his other movies that take themselves so seriously. It kind of, you know, loosened it a bit and made it more of.

enjoyable and less just over the top I don't know he was like poking fun at himself and how like over the top miserable his movies are and how violent movies are in general now that we can just watch this movie

and it's like the extreme and the guy who's the guy he's walking with is just like eh whatever I've heard it all before whatever it's brilliant but anyway Adam

I want to hear what you thought I didn't really I was Okay, I guess it really depends on what you're trying to get out of a movie, because I don't know if you've seen Chris Stuckman's review on this. I agree with him. I have not. Mostly. Like, he sums it up pretty well, is that there's a good movie in there somewhere, kind of, but Von Trier just ruins it in a way.

Like, he, I can't stand the whole masturbating about himself. and his own movies and like perhaps it's done ironically but I just I want like an experience out of it and I really feel as though he was making a fuck you movie he was making something to be provocative

rather than actually trying to make a film and obviously since I love his other films so much not all of them but I love when he actually tried and now to just see that he's doing several films in a row at least two at this point where he's just like eh I'm just going to do something that gets a lot of media attention, but I'm not going to try to make a real movie. It upsets me.

Yeah, I thought it was strangely compelling for how goofy and over the top the subject matter was. Yeah. Loads of really great scenes, loads of creative ideas. Lots of really great practical effects and makeup. And Matt Dillon was, I thought he was excellent. He was really charismatic and entertaining, despite the fact that he was a fucking crazy person. I felt like it wasn't as extreme as it thought it was. I felt like it wasn't as profound as it thought it was.

And it was an annoying experience watching this film because the entire time, it gives off this whole gigantic vibe of self-importance that it doesn't live up to. And I just can't stand that. Yeah, I felt that a little too. You felt that too. that a little, like, when there was long sequences in the movie where they would show like montages of old footage or like animated movies and they were like explaining the point of the movie too. And that's so annoying. And that's a really, that's a Lars von Trrier kind of thing. That's a new Lars von Trier kind of thing. Like he didn't always do that. Yeah, that was a nymphomaniac too, right? Yeah. Now he just does that. But I liked it a little bit. It's just used it too much because it did give you some insight into the character's head.

and to what he finds interesting, like how he was talking about the, how the Nazis used, like they attached torrents to their planes to scare the people down there. Like, that shows the kind of sick fuck he is, that he takes enjoyment in that.

It was just, they used it way too much. Exactly. Exactly. There are elements of the narration where it does add to the film. And it's like, oh,

that's interesting. And I like, you know, being in his head, I liked him explaining his OCD, to an extent, but it would just keep going way to, not too far, but too repetitively. And that scene with the lamp post where they just, they don't leave any room for interpretation. And when I'm watching, when I'm watching an indie film, do I really want things dumbed down and

explain to me when I'm going out to see some art house von Trier? Like, who is this for anymore when you're just making it as stupid as possible? I don't know, dumb down. I think it was like, I think it was just, comedic. Like, just, it was that goofy. I didn't, I didn't find this funny art too. Uma Thurman keeps going, oh, are you a serial killer? Are you a serial killer?

You better not kill me. And I get that they were doing it for comedy. I thought it was hilarious. Yeah. I'm watching it and I know exactly what he's trying to do. I'm like, oh, it's supposed to be funny and it's ironic and it's like, ha ha, this is not how a real person would act. And this is some sort of, you know, almost fourth wall breaking.

This knows it's a movie sort of thing. And I got that, but it was so obnoxious and so annoying to watch. and I hated them. I hated the characters and I hated just how long they were going with it. It's like,

okay, yeah, I get the joke by the first 10 seconds and they're going to keep going for five minutes. But that's what made it funny is that it went on for five minutes and he takes her down to the shop

and gets the thing and then they go back and it breaks again and she's like, can you bring me back there? And he's like, Jesus fucking Christ, I'm really trying not to kill this woman.

I'm really trying but this girl's getting on my nerves. That's what made it funny. It was getting on my nerves. I totally get what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, I totally understand that. I'd never hold it against anyone to feel the way you do, Adam, because it is kind of pretentious and out there and obnoxious.

Yeah, I got those. It's either just, it's going to click with you or it's not, you know. It's so, it's so extreme in every way possible that it's either going to piss you off or it won't. That was not enough to ruin the experience for me. Lars von Trere going up his own ass a little. That was not enough. It was not just a little. He went all the way.

He's now stuck inside his own ass. I don't think he'll ever escape He's going to make films from inside his hands You might be right Which is an entertaining sight to behold I thought Yeah, but at least it was entertaining Yeah

I was so amazed by how I was just interested the whole time Because it was the kind of thing that on paper I should really be getting pissed off at But I just wasn't And I sat there for the whole ridiculously long running time And they ended

And I was like I can't stop thinking about this weird fucking film and I'm still thinking about it I feel the opposite not about whether or not I'm still thinking about it but that on paper I should be able to enjoy something like this and I didn't

you know I feel I feel like I should be able to just watch some dumb goofy Matt Dillon's killing people and it's you know over the top and that's interesting and silly but I just it was so it was so pretentious and it was so

insistent on its own significant that it didn't live up to. And it's just, just the amount that they just kept over explaining and, and drilling it into our heads. And maybe that's the point, you know, and I,

I feel like at this point, Von Trier is just such a, he's a provocateur. He does things for attention. And when I watch a film like this, all I can think is he's looking to get attention and he's looking to piss people off. And it doesn't feel like he's making a real movie.

It feels like he's making a fuck you movie. Like, ha, ha, look what I just did. But I wasn't entertained by it in any way that I could appreciate the film. Not any way. Like, there's some aspects that I definitely like to it. And I loved the ending, honestly.

I really enjoyed where I went. But, yeah, it is something that despite having a love-hate relationship with it, and despite being, like, actually pissed off when I watch it, I'll watch it again. I'll definitely watch it again. And I'm not just to, like, give it a second chance. But because it is unique and it is its own thing. I can't think of another movie like it. And that's something that I can say about it positively.

Yeah. But at the same time, it's like, it's a grading experience. It's actually the kind of cringe where it's just uncomfortable and I don't enjoy seeing it, you know? It's not like watching a wizo film where I'm like, ha ha, it's funny cringe. This is just like, oh, von Trier, stop. Get over yourself. I felt a bit of that, but it wasn't enough to ruin the experience for me either. Because I thought it was very funny and entertaining.

And I got a huge kick out of Matt Dillon. And everyone else was great in it too. The second woman, he killed. She was a great actress. I forgot her name. She's in a lot of this stuff. The one from Fred the movie. Yeah, the one from Fred the movie.

That's right. She was great. And Riley Keow was great. Yeah, there was just a lot of great performances in it. too that really held it together. But yeah, I didn't mind the over-explaining thing because I thought it made sense from the perspective of this incredibly mentally ill, like OCD person whose whole

schick is that he is like obsessive to every detail. I get that, but it's, it's one thing to explore every detail. It's another thing to explore the same detail forever, you know? It's just I, uh, and I get it. Like there's definitely some purpose towards it. and von Trier is obviously trying to draw parallels between Matt Dillon's character and him as a director and how audiences react to violence and what we're willing to pay for, what he's willing to subject us to the pleasure he gets from it, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I get it. But it's just, it's a, it's a grading and obnoxious experience for me.

And I wish it was, I wish it was the same thing maybe, but shorter. I just, I wish that they didn't. I can see that too long. It is too long. There's nothing that justifies the length. And when you're watching something and you know it's that long and you're just sitting there and they're explaining the same point over and over, you're like, come on, really?

This is why it's long? Come on. Like, Nymphomaniac being two fucking parts, they do the same thing. It's just like, come on. Yeah, that was ridiculous. Move along, dude. Do you have deleted scenes even? it's just everything in here

yeah it's it's funny how from you expecting more hated the film more and from us going in expecting less liked it more yeah who knows well did you guys see the uncut one or the I don't know I thought in at Vancouver I don't know so it barely makes a difference there's a bit more gore

so you've seen both or no I checked like I saw the the gory one and then I watched the regular one just to see what the difference were and like parts of it I mean like the the kill scenes just to see like I wanted to see what was different and it was really nothing like what like they cut a few seconds out of violence okay like I don't know in the like they like they don't show uh her him cutting off the breast and the cut one like it's just a little shit like that like Lawrence Montreier trying to be shocking

okay I think I saw the uncut one then I think I remember the yeah cutting off the breast yeah because they show it yeah they don't show like the kids being shot as much I guess the MPAA really didn't. Yeah, I think MPAA really didn't like that shit. Well, that's the whole point, right? Like, that's another thing. It's like, like, I love, I would love to see films that have consequence. And when I say, when I complain, like, oh, no, like, you're not going to kill a kid because you, you wouldn't fucking bother, like, in the new Halloween movie.

Like, ah, come on. Like, I want to see consequence. But when I see something that's just doing it as a joke, like, I didn't, I watched the first, like, 10 minutes of. what was it, Uva Bull's postal? I was like, yeah, whatever. Like, when you're, when you're killing kids just for the sake of being edgy, that's not what I want. I don't want like, ha ha, like we're le edgy. I'm going to show you something that I know is going to piss off the MPAA. The only reason I want to see a kid die in a movie is because I want an emotional experience. I want the kid to matter. I want someone to lose something, you know? It's not about just showing things for the sake of being provocative or controversial. It just loses its effect for me. And I feel like that's what he did in this film. He's just like, ha ha, there's kids in this movie. Ha ha. I'm going to kill him. Like, that's it.

I think there's more of a purpose to it than that. We didn't know them. They showed up for the scene. They had, there was like, it doesn't matter. You can't just say their kids, therefore it's emotional. The first kill. The first kill is a lot of fun, right? And then the second one's a little brutal and realistic. And you're like, oh, that wasn't as much fun. This is actually pretty fucking violent. But then it goes into his whole

OCD thing, which is hilarious. And then the third kill, which I believe is the kids, right? It's just horrible. And there's no entertainment value. It is. For me, it was horrible. I didn't think it was goofy. I thought it was horrible. I was trying to hold back laughter. And I was like, really?

I was like, Jesus, fuck. That was horrible. I wish. That's for you. I didn't think there's anything stupid about it. It was that. It was that contrasts like, okay, this isn't funny anymore now. He's up to the third fucking guy, and it's not funny. They, like, digitally edited the kids so that he fell faster.

Oh, it was so stupid. It was just like, it's setting up the scene in a way that's so transparent. And it's like, I don't know these kids. I don't give a shit about them. I don't know this mom. Like, you showed up just for the scene. Like, and you're expecting me to have some sort of emotional reaction? Yes, because it's just kids.

I didn't know it was so easy to get that kind of. an emotional response out of people. It is when you show like a family. I'm like, oh, I don't want to kill a fucking family. This is the fun serial killer I've been following the whole time. You understand that that's just manipulation at this point. Like, it didn't develop anything. You can't, you shouldn't be able to, it's like when someone shows a dog die in a movie.

It's like, yeah, it's sad. But like, you shouldn't be able to just like get a tear jerk out of just showing one thing without actually developing it. You shouldn't be able to have these trump cards or whatever just to, to use as an excuse to get like a tear jerk moment. I thought it was more to hammer home the fact that he is like a true psychopath serial. Well yeah, that too. There's nothing fun about this.

Yeah. The tone's completely different to that entire sequence. I completely disagree. I'm just trying to imagine like how is the tone any different just because it's a family? Like it's not really was he trying to be more serious than that seems? The whole setup is totally totally different. Like the first kill is the goofy Umathurman tongue-in-cheek, look how self-awarely our kill.

I thought the whole thing was supposed to be tongue-in-cheon. I didn't feel that at all. I'm sorry, I'm just... I'm... I don't know. I'm so confused at this point. Because I was... That was like one of the funnier ones for me. Really? Legit. The kids?

Yeah. I thought that was the most like fucked up. It was hilarious. I thought that was the most fucked up one. Like, it was still bad, but I was like, I was almost laughing at that point. It was hilarious. It was ridiculous.

Yeah. I don't agree with that. Yeah, me neither. I thought that was pretty brutal. Yeah. I wish. I'm going to watch it again for sure, but I don't feel like I'll have a different reaction to that scene. That scene will always be funny to me.

And right now, I probably seem like a fucking psychopath to you guys. But, yeah, that scene had some genuine laugh. All right Do we have anything else to say about this movie? Like I I enjoyed it enough It is a love-hate relationship I just

It's extremes on both ends for me And it's like mama Yeah Yeah And it's clearly a film that gets some kind of reaction out of you Yeah I think it's supposed to be polarizing So I'll give a credit for that Right

So I give a credit for that At least it's not boring And you should check it out With the whole family Yeah I guess so Your two sons and your wife I still will fucking love it. Yeah.

Damn. Even the people I went to the movie with, like they had the same reaction too. They thought that scene was hilarious. I can imagine. Really? Yeah. That was so funny.

It was so stupid. Anyway. I guess, let's talk about something else here. We all watched Bandersnatch, right? That's right. Yeah. Yeah, we did.

Black Mirror. What'd you think? How many endings did you get? Yeah, surprise. This is one of the best things I saw all here. Yeah. Really enjoyed it. I just came out of nowhere.

Yeah, me too. How long did you guys spend on it? Like three and a half hours? Because I did 90 minutes. Really? Good. I got them all. You guys got fucking indefinite.

Yeah. Great. Yeah, there's a lot of good Easter eggs and references throughout the whole thing. It's great. I really enjoyed it overall. I was a little disappointed that there wasn't more. though. I was a little disappointed that there was no Easter egg

with the phone number input. Because the five numbers that you're supposed to put in, it literally just tells you right there. And if you have subtitles on, obviously, it's even more obvious, which I always do. And so... I fucked it up. Oh, that's funny. Oh, yeah. Literally with the subtitles, it's

just, it's so easy. But I was going through the film, trying to get all the different shit, and I was hoping that the five-digit case file number or some other five digits in the film like you could put it into the phone and then maybe it would like open up the portal to hell and he'd see the fucking lion demon or whatever like i was hoping for something yeah like out there like really crazy to happen but apparently there's only two options there there's getting that one number and or failing i was like wait a minute this is

this is the only section of the game or movie whatever you want to call it where you actually have an input that's not just choosing between two things. Like, I'm so disappointed that they didn't add something else there, but whatever. Yeah, they could have added a third thing, just a quick. It doesn't even take that long. Some sort of secret, where it's not the obvious answer? Yeah, but that being said, I thought all the choices, there was a lot of choices and there was a lot of work that they clearly put into all the different choices you make. And some people complain that the ending is always basically the same, like roughly. and I think those people kind of miss the point of the movie,

which is that choices at the end don't really matter because some things are just destined to happen. I thought they weren't the same, though. I thought there were two kind of distinct... Yeah, they're vaguely... Well, there's two distinct ones, I guess, but there's always... Some variation on it, yeah. Yeah, I don't just want to spoil it.

Yeah, let's spoil it, but we'll give a spoiler warning. Because anybody can watch it on Netflix right now. Yeah. Okay, yeah, sure. You kill the dad so many different times. A lot of the endings involve either killing the dad and going to jail or killing yourself. And that's like every ending. But again, that's the point is that, you know, no matter how many choices you make, these things are just kind of doomed to happen.

I like that. It's not an actual video game. It was still written to be a sort of cohesive, singular narrative. Yeah, it wasn't like a gimmick. It was actually a story about free will. and the choices we make in life told in that way to be somewhat, you know, ironic and, and poke fun at the whole concept. It was very smart.

Black Mirror is the perfect fit for this kind of idea because, yeah, we actually had a question I saw on Reddit that we might as well just mention now, which was about, with Bander Snatch being a thing, do you think this will open the floodgates for more interactive film experiences? I hope not. It's just a novelty at most. Yeah, that's because it would be like David Cage. It'll be just dumb movies with like, oh, you get to pick whether you go the left door or the right door.

Isn't that fun? That's the point of this movie. It's so self-aware and it fits within Black Mirror. These things have existed before and always looked like shit. Like there's ones that were, you know, they would release a DVD and it's like, oh, well, this character decide to shoot this person or go this way or blah, blah, blah. But it's like you can't, you have to have an idea for your story that's not just like, oh, anything can happen, you know. I guess there's some writers out there that could pull it off, but they're not really interested in making those kinds of things. Maybe now some talented people will be because it's like, oh, Netflix, this is a platform where you can easily have this set up.

But I don't know. I don't really have faith that there will be very significant or important or purposeful, choose your own adventure style movies being made. And this one was one where I was glad that it actually had a purpose towards it being presented in that. way. Like, it made sense and it was meta and like, okay, this is this is the story that you should be telling through this medium, you know? Exactly. And Netflix do have a couple of other kind of choose your own adventure things. I know they've adapted Minecraft story mode into being like a thing. I tried that out. Of course you would. Minutes and then that's just lame, man. It sucks. It's really boring. Didn't Tell Tell Tell make that? Yeah, I think so. Yeah,

Telltale made it. Yeah. I feel like that just works better for video games, too. But like Bandersnatch is kind of like a telltale game if it was just live action. Yeah. Basically. Making something like that is so difficult. And even in this, you can see the limitations of just how much you can do with this.

Because the scale is pretty small. It's all set in like three locations. And they're clearly sets and all that. Like, if you actually try to do something a little more grandiose, than like, let's say Detroit Become Human was like an actual movie. The amount of time you would have to take to shoot all those scenes in real locations and get real costumes, it's way more difficult than just making a video game. Yeah, and it makes no sense business-wise to film so much content that only 30% of people will see half of.

Exactly. It just makes no sense to do that. Even when you play video games, like not everyone does all the choices. Very few people do all the choices. Most people play it once or twice, and then that's it. There were several articles that came out before Bander Snatch was released, saying that it had a five-and-a-half hour runtime that there was five-and-a-half hours of total footage. I don't think that's true. There was definitely only, like, what, an hour and a half, maybe two hours or something?

Like, I don't know where these articles came from, and it's kind of something. I totally believe that. But there's even little things. Like, but depending on the cereal you pick, it's two different, you know, scenes. Yeah, for half a second. like barely I don't know if it's half it might be a minute or 30 seconds

and that adds up little things like that add up I watched through all of it like I'm convinced I got everything because I went on Reddit afterwards and I found all these like flow charts of what the possibilities are and there's not a single person

who's gotten anything that I didn't so really yeah I'm pretty sure with the way that Netflix works somebody has downloaded like the code and discovered how many possible options there are for the the actual film so yeah probably so Netflix is lying again like they did with birdbox

how it's like the most popular movie yeah like I don't know where that information came from but there were a few articles reporting on it and now it's just like okay well that's obviously not true it probably came from Netflix I would love it if they just randomly patched it at some point and all of a sudden there's new options like the phone code does work like two months later Somebody just tries the five-digit case file number and it actually goes somewhere. That would be crazy, but who knows? Yeah, they just keep adding to it. That would be so weird.

Yeah, if they just kept extending onto this movie and before you know it's like 10 hours of shit you can do. Yeah. Maybe that's a good business model. No, not really. It was good, though. Yeah, it was really insane. You guys didn't explore everything, right? No, but I did explore a fair bit.

I feel like I got the major stuff. Did you get the Netflix ending? Oh, the Netflix was the first ending I got. Oh, me too. That was an awesome ending. I did all possibilities in the Netflix one too, where it was like, there's the one where he tries to jump out the window. That one's great. Did you see that one? Uh-huh. And then it's like a set.

Yeah. I did the one where I kicked my dad in the balls and saw my psychiatrist. That's the one I went with, but that was fun too. Yeah, that was crazy. That was a trip. I love that they did that. Did you like the trip scene? Oh, I love that. At the LSD trip. That was so accurate too.

When his eyes are coming out of his fucking sockets for half a second and then it was on his glasses. Just the rambling they had was like perfect. The program and control man, he sounds like a fucking loon. That's totally what those things do to do. It's great. Colin was the best character. He was so good. I love Colin.

Yeah, absolutely. All of the acting was pretty goddamn good. The dude from Dunkirk was. was awesome. I forgot his name. The only one I wasn't a big fan of was the dad. Really? Yeah, I don't know. Something about it didn't ring true.

I only had issues with the kind of the guy at the game place who's running the whole joint. Oh, really? I thought he was funny. Yeah, I don't know. I think it's because someone to do that accent. Oh, yeah? Come around to here. Is it like really big?

Yeah, it's a little like cartoonish. Yeah, it just seemed weird to me. Mm-hmm. I don't know if that's just because I'm familiar, but whatever. Maybe you seem weird to him. Damn. Yeah, but that's what I mean. Like, there was some acting and stuff like that that felt like a TV show.

It didn't feel like a movie. The whole scale of it. Right. Like, he felt like an actor. The dad felt like an actor. Everything was shot in like four locations. And it just felt like a very small scale thing. And I thought it was fantastic for what it was.

But, you know, I wouldn't give it like five stars or anything. just on that. But goddamn, it was so cool, and it's different and very ambitious. And they really pulled it off. The only performance I didn't like was from the mom, who we only ever saw two seconds of. She just had a really weird expression on her face. And it was kind of common. She's like, are you coming to the train station?

Like that face is so weird. It's like, come on, you didn't have much screen time, but you managed to screw it up anyway. She probably didn't even know what she was doing. They just brought her in. and you're the mom you say you're going to the train station oh go into the train station you just know what the fuck the movie is

I was hoping for a bit more of the demonic kind of aspect to it I was hoping for a bit more of that oh I thought there was plenty of that are you kidding no there was that was the first route I went down well if anything the makeup on the actual demon when he shows up

for like two jump scares that was pretty goofy yeah it didn't look great I didn't like the design that much, but I was hoping for some kind of... Well, it didn't scare me. Resolutions or something. It's just... Oh, he's hallucinating, I guess, maybe. I don't know.

He's crazy. There's the one where, like, if you try to open up the... If you try to put in the code, and instead of putting packs, you put the author's initials. And it's the same thing. Like, if you put packs, then you get a jump scare of the demon behind you. But if you put the author's initials instead, the author jumps scares you,

like the author shows up. And it goes, ha ha! And it's kind of funny. I didn't know the author came out. Yeah, I like that there were choices that influenced what other choices you could have later in a way. Like, if you go and do the kill your dad thing in the timeline where Colin is missing,

then one of the options after you bury his body is like Colin's girlfriend shows up to the office and then has a conversation with the boss dude and then shows up at your house and you can get caught by her

and it's so weird because like in that scene where it's like okay do I bury the body or chop it up if you just spam bury like you do bury and then get an ending and then go back and do bury again it'll do different things every time

there's like three different ones One of them is the Colin comes to your house. One of them is Colin's girlfriend comes to your house. And the other one is the boss comes to your house. And those are all completely different scenes. And definitely worth checking out. Even though they're the same option that brings you to those each time. And I find that kind of interesting.

It was cool. You'd go down a track of options and then it would send you back to like, you know, a few, I'd say a half hour before. And you have different options the next time you go through it because you have new information from when you played that time before. That was really cool too. And that's something I wasn't expecting. Yeah, I loved how things were slightly different. Colin would break the fourth wall and be like, oh, I've met

you before. Or like, oh, skip this part here, I'll do it for you. Clap. I love in that one option where Colin shows up at your house, I don't know if you guys did that or not, but you can kill him.

And if you choose to kill him, he's like, well, I guess I can't stop you here. Well, here you might as well hit me over the head first. He like gives you a trophy. He's like, you probably want to sedate me. I guess if you have any choice in the matter, I'm not, I'm not going to stop this from happening, so it just kind of takes it.

It's really funny. Very entertaining character. It's a lot of movie. There's a bunch of people that didn't really enjoy this. Yeah, I'd heard. Critically wasn't doing very well. They might just be too out there of an idea. Maybe.

Like in my circle, everyone liked it. It was just, I guess, this other sect of, the guy who's in it. He left Twitter for some reason. Well, Polter. What? He played that character. You love Adam? He left Twitter because he was bullied or something.

What? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know what happened. No, yeah, he got bullied for being, quote, unquote, ugly or something. Really? What? So he left Twitter.

I'm surprised you didn't know about this. I didn't know that. Well, I don't. No, I know, I guess. People are dicks on Twitter. Yeah. He's not ugly. He's not.

Plus, he was playing a character. Yeah. supposed to look like a fucking freiko. Yeah, that's mean. He wasn't even like an evil character or anything. He was just a quirky guy in a really popular Netflix series. He was a weirdo, but he was hilarious. He was like a parody of Mark Zuckerberg or some millennial video game designer.

Yeah. So fish. Just a dude that loves drugs and designing. It goes off on crazy conspiracy theories about alternate timelines. and then kills himself. Yep. But then not really... Not programming control, man.

But then he's missing anyway. So bizarre. It's not much else to say about it. It was pretty good. I liked it a lot. I wish there was something more, but still, I appreciated it for what it was. I give it a 7 out of 10.

Four out of five? Yeah, I gave it the same as Ralph. Yeah. Very good. Very good. We all pretty much agree. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Did you guys see the trailer for the Hellboy reboot? Oh yeah, it was terribly. Yeah, I did. I don't even want to talk about it because we looked so awful. Looks like shit, yeah. It looks like total shit. I don't know why I had any hope for it. Oh, you had hope for it.

Well, because I saw the director and thought, maybe this will be all right. I don't know. What did he direct? The dissent. The dissent, but also mostly not good movies. Oh, okay. The scent is pretty good, though. The scent is great.

You never know. It looked like a dumb, like, Melissa McCarthy movie, this Hellboy trailer. It looked like a silly, like Ghostbusters or something. It just looked terrible. I thought it was supposed to be, like, a more serious interpretation of the source material, because the Gilmo films, they're quite goofy. You know, they're quite comedic. So I thought it was going to take the opposite approach and maybe be more accurate to the source material,

No, he looks worse, like the actual design of Hellboy. He's got like a tiny face. It looks terrible compared to even Ron Perlman's one, or especially how he looks in the, like, original comics. I just really don't like it. Yeah. Well, because Guillermo nailed the look of it completely. Well, he's so creative, yeah. Yeah, that's the thing.

And it wasn't just Hellboy that look great. All of the sidekicks and the creatures he fought were so creative. And this one just looks like there's no one around him. It's all just like people. And he's just like in this really bad makeup that they clearly put no thought or effort into. And it's like, why would I even watch this when I have these gorgeous looking movies that I can just, at least I can admire the visuals of them, even if they're not very well written or funny. Like a year ago, they released kind of a teaser image of how this hellboy looked. And he looks nothing like it actually in motion.

I thought that was really Trixie of them That's weird So they saw that It just didn't look that good And they photoshopped it to make it look cool Yeah, because when I saw that image I was like, oh, they actually kind of made him look

Really accurate and good to how He should be But then you see him in motion He just, he looks dreadful I can't believe him like that he looks Yeah It's a shame, I like that actor too But yeah

I mean Oh well Just another 40 Metacritic movie That's going to come out Yeah. Is anybody going to watch it? Is the question? I don't know. Not even the old Hellboys are that successful.

Yeah, it's the weird thing to reboot. Exactly. Like, why? Why didn't they just let him make the third one? Like, Yoméh who famously wanted to make a third one? Maybe they were going after like a Deadpool kind of vibe, like, because Deadpool did well, so they're like, let's make like an adult comedy. It's not a superhero movie, though. How do they not understand this?

But they're going to try to craft it into one because it's based on a comic book, and you think these executives give a shit? But without putting, like, from Marvel or from DC, No one cares. Like they see through that shit. They'll still try though. It's better than green lighting an original movie. True.

You can't risk that. Distributed by... Okay, so I think I understand what's going on here. I think this is just Lionsgate trying to capitalize on the superhero market but they don't have any superheroes

except Hellboy and they're like, that's close enough. Yeah. Because they don't have anything and I think they're trying to tap into that. They have to like reboot or do something with the character every 10 years, otherwise they lose the license.

That happened with Spider-Man. So maybe it's something like that. Or Hellboy, they have to do something with Hellboy. Because Guillermo probably doesn't want to do it. That guy's an Oscar-winning director. He's like, I want to move on. Oh, man, I don't know. Whatever.

Terrible idea. Terrible idea. It's got a bomb. Yeah. There's no way it does as well. They are desperate for an actual franchise at this point. The Hunger Games is over. It's been over for a while. Exactly.

Lionsgate, what the fuck are you doing? They'll try to reboot that. Like, they don't have a successful franchise that they can depend on at this point. And I think that they're just grasping at straws and throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks. Hunger Games prequels inbound? Maybe. I bet you they're going to do something with Hunger Games and then something else to saw very soon. Yeah.

That's what he got. They should have just had Jigsaw not die. They should have revealed in the new movie that it was his twin brother that died and made something so over the top and stupid just for the excuse of having Tobin Bell back and being like, yeah, we're starting this again. It doesn't make sense, but it never did so, whatever. I would have loved that. Or just reboot it. Yeah. Just reboot it and erase everything.

Don't reboot it. Just keep the timeline going because that's the most entertaining aspect is just how ridiculous the time. Yeah. I mean, but if you're going to, I think they want to try a little and they can't have the twin brother of Jigsaw coming. And if they want like a rational way to make more movies, they just have to reboot it. Man, I would totally write a saw movie. If they wanted to hire me to write the next saw movie, I would totally do it. I think I could capture.

It would be great. I think I could capture what the series should be, you know, why people enjoy it. I feel like anyone can do it. Makes him crazy over the top gore. And then just like, yes, this is, this totally makes sense. And all this dumb drama going on with characters that people have no idea who they are. But I understand all of them I'm a soft fucking expert

Yeah you need a twist You need a twist that makes no sense Yeah You have to get to the end of the movie Like okay what's a twist that I get thrown in He had a twin brother The twin brother was the one that died in the third movie And Jake Saw has been hanging out

Eating popcorn watching the TV monitors Laughing the whole last five movies That's the twist And you're gonna show the flashbacks of that Like you're gonna cut from original footage from the movie And then you're gonna pan over With the song music And pan over to the other movies

He's literally eating popcorn. Like, ha, ha, ha, ha. Uh-huh, I'm laughing. Yes, this is, this is my saw concept. Lionsgate, hire me. What the fuck are you doing? I'll totally write this movie. He'll make $50 million, Lionsgate.

It's going to do great. At least people in my audience would see it. Yeah, exactly. It'd be hilarious. Who wouldn't see that? People who don't know who I am, I guess. Everyone is a soul. The Saw movie, they don't give a shit.

Yeah, I mean, like, Jigsaw, the thing is about the Saw movies is, like, they don't cost that much money to make. So you're going to have a successful film as long as some people see it. There's no real reason why they canceled the franchise other than the fact that it wasn't as successful as they wanted it to be. Because of paranormal activity. But they still made money, for sure. Right. It's very low risk.

They should do a Jason Blum's Saw reboot. Yeah. That guy will just eat up all the horror movie franchise. chises. He throws money at things. He makes money. He knows how to be a business man. I saw upgrade, which is by his studio. That was pretty good too. It was fun. Yeah. You saw it too out? Yeah. And it seemed like it had a lot of production value. Yeah. Which was nice. But that was made in Australia where you don't have to pay people. Oh, okay. That's why. Because I was wondering, I'm like, this is a Blumhouse movie and it looks really nice and like the CG is great. I wonder

I wonder where they cut corners around here. Yeah, it was Australia. She didn't burn anyone. Lee Wynnell. You did it. All right, I guess, do we want to introduce the film, Alex? Yeah, okay. Spoilers.

Spoilers. So make sure if you don't want the movie Shallow Grave from 1994 to be ruined, you're only a couple decades late, but, you know, you've got a chance. Go watch it. So we want to Danny Boyle, famous director, released some pretty famous movies. This pick in this episode was his first movie, Shallow Grave, starring some pretty famous actors. It's got a decent cast, Eam McGregor, Christopher Eccleston, simple premise about a group of three friends. They live in a house together or a flat.

They're looking for a roommate, and they find one after doing a bunch of interviews. and then their new roommate is just found to be a corpse and is left with a big briefcase full of money and it's just a spiral of what happens with the greed that comes with the choices they make and yad yad yada we've all seen the movie if we're listening to this or talking about it so what do we think everybody It was pretty good. Yeah, Adam, what did you think? I enjoyed it.

I have my issues with it, but I definitely enjoyed it. Yeah. Yeah, it was all right. I appreciate it in many ways. It feels like a first movie. This is definitely before Danny Boyle became the master autore he is now. But it's a cool movie. Yeah, as soon as it ended up, it was like,

that's a really good beta prototype for trademotting. Yeah, exactly. Because it's got a lot of similar themes with the, the drugs and the ending's very similar with you and McGregor who's also in that movie kind of getting away with the money or whatever the opening was very similar like yeah that use of music and the camera moving fast yeah yeah it reminded me a lot of train spotting the baby doll falling yeah yeah yeah yeah he he thinks babies are creepy yeah his his nightmare scene the the very short one was actually really well done that I like that part and that

reminded me of train spotting. It's like, there's elements there where it's like, oh, I see Danny Boyle figuring out himself, you know, before he makes a real amazing movie. But yeah, I like the concept. I like what it explored. And to give it credit, it went in directions. I didn't think it would. I kind of, you know, when you start to see the story in motion, you're like, I've kind

of seen this before. But then it goes in ways where it kind of surprises you, which is interesting. Right. that's what I was thinking. It's very clever because at first you think it's going to be this dumb movie where these guys are going to chase after them and try to find the money and they have to go on the run. But it's really a movie about these three friends just having money and being paranoid and being freaked out by each other and getting on each other's nerves and them just slowly deteriorating and their friendship devolving into just violence and chaos. So it was actually very smart in that way. Yeah, it's all thanks to that greed. comes with it's just their entire relationship collapses because of this point of this money that none of them even really gets

right and they don't even use it throughout the whole movie they spend it on a bunch of dumb shit yeah so it's like just the idea of having money and doing all this shit for what a briefcase full of money it was silly yeah and it was made on one million pound

budget which is pretty modest I think most of it went into building the kind of house set oh yeah which I liked is based on on a famous painting with those really stark kind of contrasting colors all over the place. Yeah. Which kind of helped, because most of the film is in that set, that house. Yeah.

So I think it did help to have, at least be interesting. It's quite a big area. It's got the place with the drum kit, and you've got the big attic space. It's a huge place. It's so big. They utilize the space very well. There's all kinds of stuff hidden in the floorboards, and they drill, they drill holes into the ceiling. They used the set

a lot and destroy it, which was fun. Yeah, apparently they were so short of cash that they were actually selling props and bits and bobs from the production to pay for the new stuff they had to shoot and for the film reel and stuff.

It was really down to the wire in that regard, yeah. And that's why you don't shoot on film. Take that, Quentin Tarantino. Yeah, man. Yeah, they could have spent that money on better sound effects. Yeah.

The sound effects are, I mean, it's a goofy movie and it's pretty comedic and tone, but still, there's some, like, hitting sounds. There's some bad ADR as well. There's some bad ADR. There's bad, like, stabbing sounds, slashing sounds. And you're like, wow, that was really fake. I didn't get the impact of that at all. Yeah.

I think my biggest criticism would have to be with the writing. I didn't think it was like, like, I liked the concepts that I explored and I liked the direction that it went. But there's aspects to it that I'm just I wish were explored more. I don't really feel as though

just a normal guy who happens to be a busy accountant is going to chop up a body and then all of a sudden be that crazy. I would have liked to have seen like, hey, maybe he has something a bit more going on to him and it awakens

something in him and maybe he had a fuck-up childhood or something. I wish that that was kind of explored more because it really just did kind of feel like, okay, really? Like he's crazy now. Because otherwise he was just portrayed as like a normal guy up until that point and I just found that weird. Yeah. It's weird because normally the inverse is true, but it's a very short film. It's only an hour and 29 minutes, including credits. It almost, yeah, because of the budget restraints and all sorts. But yeah, it could have used a lot more development for the characters because yeah as you say they don't really feel particularly realistic they just kind of feel like tools to get across this goofy plot with all the

murders and the crazy frantic editing and you know crazy moments and comedy I didn't really buy that they would do that that they would cut up his body and bring it in the woods and like these guys are med students right or they're at least some of them are smart like why would they fucking carry, yeah, right, like, why would they carry a body down a, down a whole stairwell, and think that no one was going to see them, and then bring it to the fucking car. It's like, you couldn't think of a better plan. You couldn't just take the money and, like, think of something else. It was, that was a little far-fetched.

My big issue with that is that it didn't even seem like they needed to hide the body. They could have just reported the crime and hit the money somewhere else. That's what I was saying. You could just put the money anywhere. Money somewhere else. Report the crime. No one knows it's there. Yeah.

Why? why did the hell did you have to turn this into a bigger crime than just stealing some money? Put it somewhere, if the police find it, be like, oh, he must have hit it there. Whatever. I don't know. You hit it in the floorboards at the end of it. Why don't you hide it there before any of this happened? You know?

Put the money somewhere. Report the crime. Movies over. It's also kind of a weird choice to have at least two of the three characters to have very clearly high-paying jobs. like one was a doctor and the other one was an accountant and the other one works for like a newspaper as a reporter. Yeah. I feel like it would have worked a lot better if they were really struggling in some way. So the conflict of keeping the money or not would be a bit more of an interesting kind of debate because it's just pure greed.

So as soon as they accept it and start cutting up bodies, they're hard to kind of support in any way. Right. They're all assholes, that's for sure. Yeah, they're all giant assholes. There's no moral ambiguity at all. Yeah, their apartment is huge, and it's in the middle of the city. Like, that's pretty expensive stuff. You guys are clearly doing okay if you're living there.

I think it was kind of trying to be about greed, though. So I'm not sure I agree that I would rather have them be poor people that really needed the money. I kind of like that it is just them being assholes. And they were clearly trying to make these characters despicable even before that got introduced. They're just constantly bullying that one guy. Like, hey, hi, you're a little bit of, are like fuck off they're so mean

it's like I guess these are the people that would manipulate each other and and turn into that so yeah I suppose just the lack of depth really 20 of them is what bug me will than anything they all kind of stay quite similar throughout the

the one that changes the most is the Christopher Eccleston's character he's kind of the goody two shoes that's always saying no we can't do this we can't do that and then he makes the change and he's psych a, says into a psycho who lives in the attic.

Yeah, that was the thing. Like, the other two were just assholes. He started out mildly likable and then he became an asshole. So that was like the biggest arc. It's like,

oh, so now all three of them are assholes. Great. I really enjoy watching these three miserable, miserable people, fucking chopping up bodies and killing people for no reason.

And it was still fun and goofy. That's the thing. We're kind of railing on it. They don't want you to take it seriously. No, not at all. It's entertaining. It's an entertaining movie.

All the, the performances are good, the presentation solid. Right, it's very well shot. Yeah. Very well lit. It's very entertaining. Yeah, I do think it works better as kind of a exploration into the director and his filmography more than its own film. Exactly.

I wouldn't be nearly as interested in this or engaged if it wasn't Danny Boyle's first film. Because it is interesting to kind of look at this and see elements of. of his style and character being shown in this that further get developed in his later films, you know, like the techno and just how editing heavy he always is. I like his style and I like that you can watch a Danny Boyle film and be like, this is him. Even if you didn't know beforehand, you could watch it and be like, this is definitely a Danny Boyle film. And I like directors where I feel that way. But otherwise, if it was just like a, you know, if it wasn't super low budget, if it wasn't his first film and this was just a random movie by somebody.

I'm not sure I would be very interested in it overall. I think the actors play a big part in kind of selling you on it too, because especially E. McGregor and Eccleson are really solid. They have a lot of chemistry. They really sell their relationship on them, that they've known each other for a long time. So that does help a lot. Apparently, Boyle and the three lead actors all stayed in a flat together while shooting it.

So that probably did help with that kind of chemistry they will have. Yeah, I felt their chemistry. They definitely had it. I think it's the first film Ewan McGregor was in. Maybe. One of them. Yeah, one of his first performances in a future. Yeah, he definitely wasn't a celebrity before this.

Yeah, yeah. What did you guys think of the music, like the score? I thought it was a little much A little obnoxious It was very corny Yes It was what I noted down It was just a bit too much at points

Yeah Yeah It was trying to hammer in that goofy tone Have you ever killed a man Yeah It didn't really work I remember being a bit repressive too Yeah

That too Like oh this is supposed to be silly It's supposed to be this All right I have my own brain Thank you I don't need the music to do that Tell me how goofy this scene is.

I liked a lot of the dialogue. There's that good scene where Ewan McGregor is, they're arguing about who's going to cut up someone or something. And he says something along the lines of, you're a doctor, you kill people every day. It's just like, quippy little dialogue. It's written by the same guy who wrote

Train Spotting. Although Train Spotting was an adaptation of a book, though. Yeah, yeah. It has a very, very, much as that same feeling of a lot of Danny Boyle's movies and just the quippiness and the quickness of everything. It's definitely, as you say, the most interesting and insaneing part of it there. Yeah. Did you know that you and McGregor and Danny Boyle didn't speak to each other for like 10 years? I kind of did, yeah. When Transporting 2 was coming out, I think I saw the interview about that,

where they'd kind of come back together. So after train spotting, they didn't work with each other? Well, no, I mean, like, they were actually pissed off at each other. Oh, really? Yeah, they worked together on shallow grave and then train spotting. And then a lifeless ordinary. And then Ewan McGregor really wanted to be in the beach. But then Danny Boyle's like, no, let's, I'll use Leo DiCaprio instead.

And they just got pissed at each other and didn't talk for 10 years. Such a dumb reason. I know. Damn. I want to be in the movie No You got to be Obi-1 around that same time That's a good gig

Come on Come on, even Probably nearly killed his career But yeah He was good in it He was the best thing about those fucking awful movies Was him Danny

Danny Wool was such an interesting director for me Because I find his films Can be really hit or miss Oh for sure Some of my favorite films I adore train spotting That's one of my absolute favorites But

Yeah A 127 hours I'm mixed on 127 hours was pretty good 28 days later Yeah It's this weird Thing for Changing the genre of the movie

In the last act Yeah He does it in 20 days later I think And he does it in sunshine Yeah And it either really works Or it just destroys the movie for me

Yeah I remember finding Trance kind of weird At the time Trans was weird. I still enjoyed it. It was one of those things where it just like his style was the experience. I was like, this is Danny Boyle the entire time. But I wasn't taking it super seriously at the same time.

How about Steve Jobs? You guys see that? I didn't like that. I thought that was pretty damn good. I really. I really liked Steve Jobs. I thought it was great. Yeah, I liked it a lot.

I thought it was pretty cheesy. Yeah, that's definitely more. Yeah, I thought it was cheesy too, but that's definitely more Aaron Sorkin than, like, Aaron Sorkin's the star of that movie. Yeah, exactly. The scene where they're like yelling at each other and it's so over the top with the music and it's pouring rain outside and thunder at night and it's just like, yeah. Like there's so much about that where it's just like you're, this is so cheesy and you're really hamming it up, you know. The ending with the corny music as he goes up, you're playing some like dumb pop song.

Yeah, it wasn't really something that I really enjoyed. Honestly, I did not like Steve Joe. thought most of it was pretty goddamn great. Yeah. Yeah, I enjoyed it a lot. Yeah. Wasn't the type of movie I wanted to see. I don't think I've hated a single one of his films, though.

I haven't seen T2 yet. I didn't like train spotting, too. Yeah, I haven't seen that yet. It's funny how we called the T2, but... It's hilarious. Yeah, I didn't really like it. I didn't like it, though. Yeah, I can't imagine all.

I would never say hate for that film. It's similar. It's, with T2, it's got the great presentation and editing everything. It's just the, I don't know, the story. It just kind of seems inessential in a lot of ways. It's like, why'd you make it? It's also kind of the point. It's weird, I'm torn on it.

It was like watching a reunion. And it's like, why do I want to watch your fucking reunion? Can't you just have dinner? Couldn't you guys have had dinner? Why'd you have to make a whole fucking movie? Why am I sitting here? It did. I'm trying to remember.

I really like the new version of Choose a Life that he does. Oh, I didn't like that. scene at all. You didn't like it. No, again, it was like we're going to do Choose Life again, except it's going to be worse. Except, no, he does it again, but it's from a completely different point in that character's life. Now he's an adult and he's reflecting back on everything he regrets. It's a really poignant scene. Sure. I didn't like it, though. That's me. You're wrong. But yeah, you did a good job selling me on it. I wish I remembered it and why I didn't

like it. But it's okay to be wrong sometimes. Right, exactly. I wouldn't say I hate that film though No I don't hate it either Like any of this ones They're all worth a watch, that's for sure Yeah I've never seen the beach though Yeah I mean either

I just looked at the rating on IMDB It doesn't look great The Metascore doesn't look great So maybe Ewan McGregor dodged a bullet Yeah Yeah Maybe Ian McGregor made a bunch of fake IMDB accounts And rated a bit

Yeah I'll show you Yeah You'll all see. Paid off the critics. Yeah, it's um, shallow grave,

not on the high end of Danny Boyle's filmography, that's for sure. Probably not his worst film. Yeah, it's solid. It's cool for first movie. Yeah. It's interesting to see his style

developed and form. And overall, it's really entertaining and there's a lot of good elements about it. I was watching, uh, do you notice how,

sorry. Sorry, oh, thanks. Um, do you want to go? What are you talk? Mine was just a stupid thing I noticed. I wanted to ask you guys about,

did you guys notice how weirdly fast the credits rolled at the end? No, I didn't, but that's funny. They were over in like one minute. They scrolled so quickly. I could barely read anyone's names, yeah. That's pretty funny. The intro, when it's going through all the production companies and all that, it's like one long line of text that just rolls off the screen.

scream really quickly. The whole thing is just so brisk. The pace is crazy fast. It doesn't mean it at all. Yeah. But that's a part of it too is like I was watching some of the special features on the Criterion Blu-ray and they were talking about part of the reason why it was so successful is because of the tone and the style that was kind of, it was something fresh that uh yeah audiences European audiences or any kind of audience was was kind of just being exposed to that they hadn't seen before a lot of films in in that area were kind of like dreary or pretentious and tried to have some kind of overall lesson or point you know where this film is just like ha it's a fun time people are

going to get violent and these characters are assholes and they don't learn anything and you know it's it's kind of just like a popcorn movie in a way but it's it's a little bit more substantive than that. It's not like so stupid. There's stupid elements to it, but it's just like, hey, we're going to have fun. It's going to be upbeat. It's going to be crazy. And the fact that they were able to make something like that on such a small scale with a low budget is pretty great. You know, I'm looking at the writing and although I have my gripes with it, I do appreciate that it's a story that is contained with these three characters and most of it is in their apartment. I'm like, yeah, this works.

It's the type of thing where you watch and you think, like, if you're going to make a first-time film, a low-budget film, it works well to have contained ideas like that. Yeah, absolutely. Like hard candy was super contained, you know, just two people talking. We've seen the perfected version of this style, which is why we're used to it. Exactly.

I bet at the time it was very refreshing. Yeah, exactly. For 94, I guess there wasn't that much. I like it before that point. I guess not. So there's no wonder that people like it, yeah. Is there anything else about shallow grave? I mean, yeah, like the movie, it's so, so short and over before you know it.

I mean, the conversation, like, what else even is there? Exactly. We talked about the technical elements. We talked about our problems, the little, fine the scenes bits, Danny Boyle. The last scene, like the action and kind of where it, like, picks up and gets crazy. Well, the action looked pretty goofy and fake, but. Yeah?

I like the twist of it that it was actually well set up the twist, how he chopped up the newspapers and put in the briefcase. That was clever. Yeah. But again, we've seen the Danny Boyle twist done better executed in his future movies. So. I didn't think that the action was poorly shot. I thought the action was fairly well done. It was mainly the sound design that.

Yeah, just the sound design? Okay. Because that didn't really put me. Well, there's that scene earlier on. where the goons come in and they like smash Ewan McGregor with the crowbar. And I thought that was pretty brutal and achieved. Yeah, that was a weird thing, is that they had moments like that where the action and the violence was really convincing and realistic. And then there were other moments where it sounded so goofy and fake.

So I didn't know what it was going for, you know? It's one of those movies where it has such a kind of carefree tone near the beginning of the film. And even when they show the first death or, you know, the, I guess, premonition of what's to come. That's super cheesy. But when things actually get into it and when when the action starts and when the characters are actually in danger and things are happening and especially closer to the end, it's something where I was able to take it seriously.

And I was pretty happy for watching something and not feeling as though it was a gigantic joke despite the tone of the film up until that point. Which I think you have to even spend more effort trying to get people actually invested in something when you do such a goofy comedic tone in the beginning of your film. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Did you guys have any issue understanding the accents? I didn't, no.

I watched it with subtitles, but I watch everything with subtitles. Okay. Maybe I'm getting used to it. Maybe I've seen so many British things now. I'm just used to the way of talking. Well, two of them are Scottish and one of them is from New Zealand. Yeah. So the accents are all over the place.

Yeah. It's all the same. K-Way. Yeah. I liked it. It was entertaining. It was good. It's pretty good.

Yeah, I didn't have a shit ton of notes for this one, but... Right. Yeah, neither did I, because it's just... I just... Three out of five. Fun. Yeah, I would give it the same. I'd give it three out of five.

I would give it a seven out of ten. Good job, Danny Boyle. Oh, you gave it the highest. I wasn't expecting that. Yeah, I guess so. Congrats. Nice. Yeah.

Nice. All things can see. you know, budget first film. Yeah. Yeah, I would struggle to call it bad or, you know, and truly annoying in any way. It's too creative and, yeah. Right, and it easily could have been,

thinking back on it, this could have been really fucking awful and annoying if they've done different. Just this concept of a bunch of assholes. There's a bunch of really talented people coming together here, and it's just the start of their illustrious career, which has been proven since. And it's cool to see.

Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. Damn. Thanks, Danny boy. Oh, Danny boy. All right, I guess we're doing questions. Yeah. Yeah, I'm ready to move into them if you guys are.

Got tons of time for questions. Let's do it. Let's talk to our fans. Hi, guys. Yeah, bro. How are we doing? Hello. So, if you want to leave your own questions for us to possibly answer,

head over to the Sardona cast Reddit page where Ralph will leave a thread for you to leave your really great questions in. This episode will start with, sorry, this question time or whatever the hell we call it is from a little

CT who says, what is your least favorite least favorite marketing campaign surrounding a movie? I'm talking about how the movie presented itself prior to release through trailers and other promotional tactics. Anything spring to mind, fellas?

It's usually done in trends, right? And for me, it's the found footage thing based on a true story. Like, they're going to convince you it's a documentary. Like, the devil inside, I think of that. They were like, oh, check out this movie. It's got demons. Oh, yeah?

Like, it's got demons. It's a real story. Go see it. It's a real documentary about demons. It's like, no, it isn't. This is fucking fake as shit. And then it makes, like, $100 million. And the movie ended with, like,

go to this website if you want to find the truth. Oh, wow, blow me. You won't we go to a sight? The movie isn't bad enough. My answer would be the fourth kind where they did the same thing. I don't know if you guys saw it. Except it's aliens. The movie literally opens up.

They did this in the trailer too, but the movie actually opens up with Milo Jovovich saying, hi, I'm Mila Jovovich, and this is real. She just talks to the camera, but referring to herself as the actor's name saying, this is all real. Like, what the fuck? It's so funny, and it's so poorly filmed. And people actually liked it,

and it was so bizarre, because it was such a shit. Well, because people are dumb. A poorly made movie. Because in that movie, it was like, they show you the real footage,

and then they have reenactments of the alien abduction. And the real footage looks just as fucking fake as the reenactments. It's so bad. It is. It's terrible.

It's horrible. I think the horror movies have, like, the worst gimmicks like that. Oh, I got to go. answer. Yeah, no doubt. Kangaroo Jack. Oh, yeah.

Where they pretended it was like a goofy kids movie with a CG kangaroo running around, but the movie had nothing to do with it, and it was like the most dishonest marketing campaign ever. Literally. Like, it was just about two guys trying to do something. I don't even remember what

they were doing. But it was like, they marketed it as though you would... You're telling me that... I never saw that movie, but I saw the trailers. And I thought there was always a C.G. I kangaroo in it? No, it shows up in a dream sequence. They get knocked out and then the kangaroo like literally just, it's as if the trailer plays. The kangaroo goes like hippity hoppity and then wraps a little and talks in an Australian accent for last. And then they wake up and the rest of the movie keeps going. But that dream sequence is what basically the movie was marketing itself as.

It's a gigantic lie. That's crazy. This whole time, my whole life, I thought that was a movie about a CGI kangaroo. No. Thank you for telling me the truth. There's a good review for the film on a very underrated channel that does not post frequently called Native Birds. Search that up. Native Birds Kangaroo Jack. But yeah, it's pretty funny.

That was so dishonest. I'll check that out. Like one of the most despicable marketing campaigns. How about Ghostbusters where they were like, if you don't like the movie, if you don't like this awful trailer, then you must hate women. Was that marketing or was that just the opinions of the filmmakers trying to save face because nobody liked it? Yeah, maybe. But then they tried to save face afterward and they were like, I never wanted to, you know, discredit people who didn't like the trailer. People have the right to their opinions.

It's like, yeah, okay. I don't believe you. How about Bethesda? I know it's not a movie studio, but what Bethesda has done recently is honestly hilarious. Yeah, it's like they want to go bankrupt or something. It's like they don't want people to like them anymore. Did you play that game? I returned it because it was...

My dad got it for Christmas for me, and then I told them return it because it's awful. Yeah, and then I hear about how they released the bags. Like, they had these bags. Canvas bags, yeah. Canvas bags, and they're supposed to be nice, and then they sent them over, and they were, like, fucking silk burlap sacks.

They looked awful. Yeah, they were, like, garbage, really cheap. But they did have nice bags that they gave to... high-profile YouTubers for review copies. Oh, of course. Yeah. But then they give... Slimy.

Right. And then they give the shitty ones to everyone else. You know, they're loyal fan-based. They have to pay for it, yeah. And then they release this drink. It's like this rum drink that's set in the Fallout universe, and it has, like, this nice bottle. And then they revealed it recently,

and it's just a normal bottle of, like, rum that they put, like, this plastic casing around it and make it look like it's a bottle from Fallout. It's like this piece of shit. made for five cents in China somewhere. And then they gave it to their audience who pre-ordered it for like 25. It's hilarious. So Ralph, what you're saying is that on Christmas

morning you opened a gift from your father and said, take it back. No, no, no. Is that what you're telling us? I was telling my dad. No, no, no. I was telling my dad how awful the game was. And then he's like, oh, well, I got it for you.

And I'm like, you better return that shit because I heard it was the worst thing ever. And he's like, okay, I got you. That's funny. Yeah. I got on PC. Mm-hmm. I hate it. I mean, I trusted Bethesda that much. Apparently, I shouldn't have...

Take it back. Yeah, it sucks. I heard it doesn't even work anymore. I hear, like, people are getting their addresses and IP addresses leaked because of security in the game. It's crazy. The main mechanic of the game was, like, building up to be able to nuke players or something. And as soon as 2019 rolled over, the nuking mechanics stopped working in the game. There's a real Y2K.

up code. Yeah. Just totally incompetent in every way. They're still using that engine from like Skyrim 10 years ago. I know, right? Earlier than that, I think it's Marlwind.

Oh, man. It's so frustrating when game developers don't let go of an old engine and they're like, we can just keep making it. Like fucking telltale, keep using the same shitty engine because it's for mobile basically. Yeah, but you can't do that anymore.

I know. Like, Red Dead Redemption just came out and the engine, like the graphics are excellent. and the movement is so realistic. It's like, I'm still playing fucking this engine from 15 years ago. Get a new engine. Yeah, it's crazy. You can just buy an engine that's better.

You can get Unity and make a game in that. It's probably better than whatever you have. Unreal. Right, and those aren't even that good. Alex, he didn't really give an answer for a marketing campaign, did you? Yeah, I do actually have an answer. Yeah, sorry for Terrellings. For a movie I actually really like.

Oh. It comes at night. um had that marketing that pissed everyone off um i i missed all of that but once i watched the movie and i think i said something about how much i liked it people like oh that's that one that that cheated everybody i know right i did some research and was like oh wow that was a really bad bad idea because you've just hurt a really good movie yeah tell people that it's something that it isn't here's the thing though is a 24 they're they're like an up-and-coming kind of you know they're making like a lot of indie titles.

They give a lot of creative, creative freedom to the directors. And so they've got this huge catalog of horror movies that don't really fit into the traditional horror movie presentation. You know, it comes at night under the skin. There's a third one I'm forgetting. But like, they've got so many horror movies where it's just like, okay, this is obviously not a traditional horror movie. Hereditary too.

And then when they market it, it's like, okay, well, you know, they have to decide between, okay, do we want to be honest about what this is and maybe nobody will see it? Or do we want to pretend like it's a traditional horror movie and people will see it and some will hate it and some will like it? It's frustrating, but that's kind of just like how the business is forcing it to be. Yeah. It gets more people to see it. Yeah, exactly. And horror movies make a ton of money.

If people are going into a film expecting one thing and they're given something else, you can't really blame them for being angry about it. Exactly. When the marketing is literally... tricking people, you know. Yeah, yeah. That's just a shame. It comes at night is not a horror movie in that way. It's more psychological thriller than...

Yeah. Horror, yeah. A very similar thing happened with that film, The Grey, the Liam Neeson movie. Oh, yeah. I didn't actually see it. Around the time, he was, like, kind of going through that action renaissance thing with Taken and all that, so they tried to make it look like it was a film about him in the wilderness, fighting wolves or something, and that was the very large.

scene of the movie and then it cuts the black and it was really not really a wolf at all it's yeah it's like this metaphorical movie about grief and death yeah then I'm just going around the woods and then they try to sell it's like an action movie that's really funny yeah that shot in the trailer where he's like the close-up of him and he goes to fight the wolves that's the last shot of the movie it's like wow okay so people who paid to watch this and see the rest of that scene aren't getting shit which is pretty funny but that's not right That reminds me of the trailer for The Amazing Spider-Man 2, where they cut to black on the trailer in the same place where they end the movie. The implication is that if you buy a ticket, you get to see the fight scene, not you get to see the fight scene also get cut off at the end of the movie.

And then the post-credit scene being a trailer for X-Men. Right. That was hilarious, too. It was so funny. Oh, I want to see Spider-Man Fight Rhino. I'm going to watch this movie, and then you don't. Yeah, exactly. Oh, well.

You're telling the Rhino fans that they'll get to see a fight between Spider-Man and Rhino if they buy a ticket. You never got to see Spider-Man fight Rhino fans. You might have to wait until the new Marvel people do it. Or just play the video game. Yeah, I could have a video game. I was going to ask if you guys saw Kresha, the first project from It Comes at Night Guy. I have not, but I've heard great things. Oh, it's really great.

I really enjoy it. I would definitely I would check that out for nothing but great things about it yeah absolutely very low budget too that's yeah that's all shot in his house right with his grandma

yeah with like family members yeah family members not the main actress but there's a lot of the main actress is like his aunt really yeah oh yeah okay you know I remember yeah

yeah she's great good for him yeah she is from what I saw in the trailer I got a count to ask this says since it's the end of the year please tell us and it's just a list of like what's your favorite film of 2018 what's your least favorite film in 2018 what's your biggest disappointment should we go through quickly and answer each one yeah what we currently think so I still have some

big hitters of 2018 to catch up on that aren't even out here yeah I've seen almost everything except one but I got my list pretty cemented and then Adam's got a lot to to see. My favorite film of the year was climax, but I don't think you guys have seen that yet. No, I haven't had a chance to. Yeah, exactly. I think the Blu-Rae is coming out in France soon or something. I think it's coming out this month. Yeah, they're not releasing it in theaters until March of this year in the U.S. I'd like to see that on the big screen too, because Gasper in a ways kind of earned that. It is a great big screen movie, obviously. Yeah. It's pretty insane. But yeah, definitely my favorite in the year. What about you guys?

at the time of recording this based on what I've seen I'm kind of stuck between the favorite or Buster Scruggs those are the two films I've got the most out of in 2018 so far

the favorite same here but very close second is Susperia which I thought was amazing I'm looking forward to seeing that fucking anxiety riddled beautiful terrifying violent everything it was awesome it was two and a half hours long

of just craziness. And I was like, I didn't get any sleep the night before. So I was like in this like tired state. It was like watching a nightmare. I didn't know if I was awake or asleep. It was crazy. So I highly recommend Syspira.

It's one of the best horror movies I've seen. It made hereditary look worse. Yeah. After I saw Syspira, I was like, wow, this is so fucking awesome and out there. Yeah. And I love the 1970s aesthetic, the Giala aesthetic,

the Zooms and the music. and yeah it was it was wonderful and the favorite is just excellent as well Tom York soundtrack yeah Tom York soundtrack was amazing I love the favorite that's a great choice what about your least favorite of the year

yeah least favorite film in 2018 unfriended too not really because it's just fucking lazy it's just fucking you're gonna film a laptop and put that in a theater give me a fucking break just that alone is enough to make me dislike it on top of it the movie is just horrible in every way.

The acting is horrible. It is pretty lazy. There's like five endings, right? As if I would watch the fucking thing more than once. There's two endings? Like, I don't even want to see the first ending. They want me to watch two endings. Get the fuck out of here.

How are two endings? They just randomly decided. Yeah. They just randomly decide. So you could just go see the movie twice in the shitty. Depending on what theater you're seeing it in, you might get a different ending. Yeah.

It was a weird marketing thing. Yeah. The girlfriend is deaf for no reason. so they could have that dumb scare at the end. It was awful. It was so awful. And lazy. Yeah, it was definitely a lazy film.

Right. But the fact that they released it in a theater, that's what put it over the edge. Like, at least Cloverfield, they released that on Netflix for free at least. Anyway, Alex, go ahead. My worst film of 2018 is a little gem called Selfie from Hell. You guys seen me? A race, it already sounds awful. You see all the gems for sure.

It's... Looking it up right now. It looks great. Yeah. I'm gonna watch list this one. I watched it right at the beginning of 2018, and I just remember being pissed off the entire time. Because you always hope for it to be really funny in some way,

films of that level. But they often are just... They just get on your nerves. feels super long even though they're really short and just ugh I felt the same way about that hashtag horror film I think it's on Netflix yeah I love the opening credits I love the opening credits oh yeah yeah it's just a class of embarrassing

if I had to choose something that was actually in theaters though it would be show dogs okay I don't need to say anything more or venom I fucking I can hate Venom. Venom. I think my number one worst movie of the year, if I had to decide, would probably be a wrinkle in time. It was pretty bad.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I haven't seen that one. It was very boring and just really, really poorly made and nonsensical and dumb and obnoxious child acting throughout and Oprah. Yeah. Nothing good going. for it. It was pretty bad. And it also tried,

is like the most embarrassing part. It's like, there's a lot of money that went into it. It had like production value. That was a Disney movie. You know? Uh-huh. A hundred million dollar budget. It was fascinatingly bad. You gotta wonder why they make movie. Like, why'd they fund that movie?

I don't know. This would be a hit. Made them give it a hundred million. Because it's a lot of money. That's a lot of money. Previously successful intellectual property. It's from some book. A wrinkle in time is? Yeah.

It's a book. book that I read in like elementary school. It was kind of that vibe going on. But tomorrow land did terrible. They should have learned their lesson from that. And that was Brad Bird making it. Brad Bird's one of the best directors alive right now. And he couldn't even make anything out of this. They should have.

They should have. Yeah. Oh well. They can afford a few stinkers. They made the billion dollars anyway. Billions of dollars. Black Panther alone made a billion. Yeah, true. The next one was biggest disappointment of 2018. Oh. Hmm.

Let me think about this one. I probably made... I'm just going to look through my quickies because I probably made a quickie on whatever my biggest thing. I've got one. I was never really hyped for it to begin with, but I was not expecting to dislike Ready Player 1 the amount I did. Yeah.

I've expected so much better, so much more from Spielberg. I was so angry after seeing that movie. Yeah, I thought it would at least be creative in how they're The visual effects in the world, and all of that was really boring, and it made no sense, and it was all blue and gray scale. And it was cringy. I hate throwing that word around, but it was cringy. Incredibles, too, was mine. I expected a lot more, especially waiting for that long.

It was just like a nostalgia beat, boring, uninspired cash grab. I think if I have to choose a movie based on, like, expectation versus reality, it would probably have to be the new Halloween movie. I didn't have very high expectations for it at all. I was just hoping for a movie where I didn't feel as though the villain was a big joke, something that had some interesting deaths or maybe did something that made me, you know, squeamish or like, you know, feel like it's a slasher movie, but I just, I didn't even get that. So I just, if we're going to use the word disappointing, I would have to say that's my most disappointing one. Yeah, Michael Myers wasn't scary at all in that movie.

I can't even bring myself to watch it. The end was like Home Alone. Yeah. He took this iconic slasher and made him into a joke. Like, oh, yeah, some three people could just fight them off with nothing. They could just hide the basement and then they're good. It felt tame for a horror movie, which is not what I wanted. And everybody was raving about it.

Everybody's talking about how scared they are and like how extreme it is. And it was just like, it was a tame horror movie. There's some good elements to it. Like the soundtrack is good. Yeah, I know. shot, but like, it's not a good movie. Yeah. It's just disappointing overall. Not even close to as good as the old one.

The penultimate one was the biggest surprise of 2018 for you guys. Oh. What surprised you? Let me see. Look through my cookies again. I've got an answer. We actually talked about it already. For me, I was

surprised that I liked the house that Jack built as much as I did. Because I was expecting to not enjoy it. Yeah. That's a good choice. I don't know I'm trying to think there wasn't really anything burning venom

no burning which is like a South Korean movie because it just kind of came out of nowhere I'm like oh this movie burning looks pretty good and the guy from Walking Dead's in it

and it was amazing it was one of the but like it's in my top five of the year it's fantastic and it's beautifully shot and intense and creepy and everything everything you want out of a thriller

it's magnificent and it came out of nowhere. Again, those are my favorite movies. The ones that just pop out and they're great. I guess I've got two answers for this one.

One of them being Spiderverse. I was pleasantly surprised. I know I didn't love it as much as you guys did. That's a weird answer, but I was expecting it to be worse, so I enjoyed it.

And then Museo, huge fucking surprise because I only wound up seeing it because the director had made a previous film that was like competent enough. There was something there. And so I'm at TIF. And it wasn't even in one of the main theaters.

It obviously didn't have like a huge, I guess, media campaign or anything. So barely anybody saw it at TIF. It was in one of the smaller theaters. And it was, it's one of my favorite movies of the year. And it's on YouTube premium right now. So that's the biggest fucking surprise is that YouTube premium has a movie that's really great. So yeah, you guys should check that. Check it out. Museo. M-U-S-E-O.

You can just watch it at any point on YouTube Premium. If you have that. Absolutely. We'll check that out. And the final one was, your guilty pleasure of 2018. Something you enjoy despite how bad it is. Aquaman. That's my one too.

Oh, that's a good choice. I'll try to think of mine. Rob, you sleep on an Aquaman. I know. Yeah, I really couldn't bring myself to do it. I just got to do it. I can't believe you. Venom is mine.

Venom was hilarious. I can't believe you saw Venom, but you're not willing to see Aquaman. Exactly. I don't know what you say. The Venom song by Eminem, that is hilarious. And that's better than the entirety. Right. That's better than the entirety of Aquaman.

Well, you haven't seen it. You clearly haven't heard the Toto Africa remix by Pitbull. Yeah. Oh, is that in the movie? Yeah. Dude, you got to see Aquaman. Oh, boy. Like, we're begging you to see this.

It's the original track by... Trust us, bro. Dude. I don't know. I can't bring myself to do it. Why? You saw Venom and you walked out of Venom. It looks so bad.

It looks way worse. It looks way worse than Venom. It's funny. No. No, no, no. It's... It would have hours long and it's all CG. It looks like...

Why don't you trust us? It's epic. We're your friends, Ralph. You have to trust them. I don't believe you. I don't believe you. What are you talking about? It's genuinely epic.

What would you rate it? Five stars? It was my enjoyment? Yeah, it was entertaining. I was crying with laughter after it, so five. It was funny. It was hilarious. All right, I'll try to see it by next time. Come on, yeah.

Yeah, maybe we'll talk about it. I would love to talk about it. I want to know what you thought, and I think you'll enjoy it. Okay. I don't think I'll enjoy it. You've got to watch... Shitty Fast and Furiouses. You can watch Aquaman.

You watch all of the other DC movies, too. Like, come on. Right, those are awful. I haven't seen one of those in the theaters since Batman now. I would say it's the best DC movie I've ever seen in this timeline. So obviously not like Dark Night Christopher Nolan. But out of all of the DC movies in this timeline, even though I haven't seen many of them, this is the best one I've seen.

And I'd imagine that it's better than the ones I haven't seen. Yeah, exactly. All right. It's hilarious. It's James Juan. He directed Saw. All right, fine, fine. I'll see it.

No, Saw is terrible too. Go on, push them over to a billion dollars worldwide. Oh, come on, you can do it. I'll do it. Yeah, it's already made money. Yeah, everyone in China loves it. It made billions. Oh, whatever.

Anyway, that's it for questions. I got a movie to recommend. Okay. Let's do it. So I'm actually recommending a movie from last year, funny enough. It's from 2018, directed by Aliche Ror-Rashar. It's called Happy as Lazaro. or Lazaro Felice.

It's an Italian movie. Enjoy it. It's on Netflix, actually. Okay. At least in the U.S. It's on my watch list. So you guys can just go right on Netflix. Oh, great.

You guys can just go right on Netflix. It's one of the best movies of last year. You should totally check it out. Okay. If it's on Netflix, you should be able to find it. Uh-huh. Yes. And if any of you listening at home want to join in on the discussion,

it will be a spoiler discussion. So check out the movie before next episode. Is this director made anything else? I'll check out that again, and I'll check out Aquaman. Two masterpieces. Okay. All right, boys, we did it. First podcast of 2019.

Yay. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. Happy Watch Aquaman, Ralph, you piece of shit, year. What's your New Year's resolution? Mine is to watch Aquaman. That's it.

What's yours? You too. Mine is to watch Madagascar two and three more. Okay. Mine is to start eating healthy and exercise, but it's not going to come into effect until 2020. So my resolution this is. That's fair. That's fair.

I don't know. I'm not cheating. Finish my album. That's my resolution. I don't know. I think New Year's resolutions are stupid. If you need the year to change for you to get your shit together, then maybe you'd, you know. Like maybe you should just be doing that for normal at any other point in the year.

You're probably not like a very motivated person if you need to do this every every year. Probably like give up on it right away too. You're right. All right. Well, thank you all. Thank you all for listening to SardanaCast, the best, most dankest podcast on the planet. if you want to support the show $2 a month

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