Sardonicast - Sardonicast #36: Suspiria, THX 1138

Episode Date: June 19, 2019

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I'm at home from your movie sucks I'm Ralph from I hate everything Oh my god And I'm I guess Alex and John Media this episode Happy Pride Month Everybody Hooray June

Speaking of things that are gay E3 happened yesterday How do you guys feel about E3 Did you watch it? Didn't watch it I know Keanu Reeves was in it or was a part of it? Yeah, I was doing my Twitch stream. Yeah, I watched...

Just playing games. I watched the Xbox conference, but that was it. How was it? Not great, to be honest. Really, a lot of fluff in there. Kind of dropped the ball, I reckon. Yeah. Because people were kind of hyped that, like,

Sony not being there would give them a chance to fill the void and, like, show something off. But they didn't particularly, apart from, you know, like the Keanu Reeves thing. That was probably the best moment. What was that about? He's in the new... He's in Cyberpunk 2077. Is that the year?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I think he's the main character in the game or something. Oh, what? He just came out on stage. I don't know if he's the main character, but he's in it. No, it's not the main character. Okay.

It's the impression I got. Okay. They also announced a new Xbox console, right? What? Well, they just teased it? Yeah, they like, pretended to... Yeah, they said it's coming out next year. Okay.

These console generations don't last very long. Because they just can't keep up with the PC hardware. Exactly, which is why like the whole Xbox 1X and PlayStation 4 Pro, it was basically an excuse to just pretend not to release another console, like, oh yeah, we're upgrading it. They're just keeping the same. The interstitial thing, yeah. The same user interface and they seem kind of antiquated now, considering like we're in the Netflix age of just streaming everything and how you can just watch Netflix or Amazon Prime on any device you have. Obviously it's going to go that way in the future, but we just don't have the internet backbone to quite deal with. with the heavy lifting the streaming games.

It would be laggy. Yeah. I think Google's trying to release some sort of stream a game from anywhere thing, but I just like I wouldn't want to rely on an internet connection. It seems too early, yeah. Well, we'll see how it goes. I don't know, like fiber internet exists. But you'd imagine that there would be a bit of delay regardless.

Like, where are the servers? Yeah, for sure. Did you watch, I guess you watched the, Halo Infinite trailer? Yeah, it was basically the only reason I watched the conference is for Halo stuff. Yeah, again, I was kind of disappointed. Yeah, it didn't really show

anything. It was just one of those manipulative, like, hey, you remember the sound when his armor powers up? Like, oh man, Master Chief's back, yay. It was, yeah. It was really cheesy. It kind of did the same thing that the previous trailer did

where it was just setting a tone and kind of showing the redesign. and that was it. It's like what? Yeah, we didn't really learn anything. Yeah. I'm not sure if it's because they're so confident that they don't need to show it

or because we should be concerned about the development behind the scenes or not. Yeah. We'll have to wait and see it, I guess. I've been lied to before by 343 in disgrace. Yeah, it's kind of like for me thrice now. Yeah, maybe more. Shame on all of us.

I feel like the electronic entertainment expo is just one of many factors involved in how the games industry became the most anti-consumer and predatory entertainment industry there is. Yeah. Like, it's not like movies or music, you know, there's so many bad. It's because people literally cheer on, like, all this awful stuff. Yeah, and it's also, like, tribalistic, too. It's like, I'll buy it because it's my console.

The whole like it's like a sport thing almost of the teams and the sides and how aggressive it gets You don't release an unfinished movie and patch it Yeah that's why I was so amazed at the Unless you're George Lucas I guess Yeah According to him Fallout 76 when that came out and they were like unveiled this new update they're doing and everyone was like cheering and clapping And it's like what you sold like a broken game a year ago

I guess we've just forgotten about that now No Man Sky precedent that way then. Yeah, exactly. Halo Master Chief Collection. Destiny. Man, I was actually playing the multiplayer a few days ago on MCC.

I was like, holy shit. I'm in online matchmaking, and it's kind of working. Yeah, actually works kind of all right now. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? It's only been like five years. Yeah.

I'm looking forward to Doom and Borderlands. Epic store exclusive. Yay. Yeah, that's quite irritating, isn't it? Yeah. It's like, it's, It's like the same, I'm upset at that for the same reason that I would be upset at, you know, new streaming services just being like, oh, well, we're going to make this exclusive and we're going to try to compete like Disney pulling all their stuff off Netflix. It's like, I don't want to have to pay, you know, I just want everything in one spot.

I want everything conveniently in a place that I like. I don't want to have to open several different applications to see my games library. Of course, but they don't care about what you like. They want money. Wee. Fortnite. Ralph, did you see this? that George R.R. Martin game with Fromm software that's being made or something? Oh yeah. There's

nothing out on it yet though. There's no gameplay or anything. I assume it's in like pre-production or something. They're just writing it. It was announced. It was something I guess. Yeah. That's nice. Instead of writing the Song of Ice and Firebooks, he's doing that. So none of us really watched E3. There you go. Everybody was really care about it. I watch it's like a cringe fest. I just want to see the cringe compilation. Somebody else. else watch it compile it for me just want to watch crowd cats videos on them and that's about it I'll watch it after just the highlight moments that's all I want you don't need to see the whole thing oh my god my brother um used to be a huge like Apple fanatic and so he he watches their

conference thing every year I was in Montreal recently and he was kind of pressed for time so instead he just went on YouTube and searched up you know like the condensed version and I think I think it was like the Verges YouTube channel just had you know point by point Like here's what's being released and it was literally just clips from the conference and it took like I don't know eight minutes to watch and he's like why did I do this every year It's like you learn you know everything It's just you don't have to sit through all this awkward showy bullshit Just give me the summary. I love the awkwardness. It's my favorite part

Yeah, did you ever see that game awards that had Joel McHale on it? That's like my favorite live thing I've ever seen. It's it's it's such a cluster fuck I have to recommend watching clips of it on YouTube. It's so embarrassing. I love stuff like that. I guess that's all we have to say about E3 is that it's not interesting. Yeah, it's just a train wreck.

It's just perpetuating hype culture. In the same line as, I guess, my comments on just the games industry being so anti-consumerist and predatory, like, it's happened so many times where a game will be announced They'll have like an E3 trailer and then the game comes out and it's severely downgraded You know like they they have this super polished Demo or video or whatever showcasing the game

Yeah, there's a YouTube channel called Crobe cat C-R-O-W-B-C-A-T that has a bunch of Comparison videos Yeah, I mentioned him earlier he did like one on watchdogs Yeah, I'm just like the downgrades between A lot of Ubisoft games. It's so funny. It's a very valid thing to point out.

Well, it's false advertising. Exactly. Exactly. Everybody get hyped. Like, you don't even know what the game's like. It's either a demo that you can't trust or just a trailer that doesn't really show anything about the game. And it's just like, well, you like this universe, right?

You like Master Chief. That line at the end of the trailer was so cheesy. No, we got a fight. Something that we didn't. I talked about last time, the cool cat saga continues with PewDiePie. Pewty Pie made a cool cat review and Daddy Derek didn't get mad at this one. No, because Pew Pi is so popular. Yeah, why?

What's happening? What's changed? I think he understands, yeah, it's the most, well, I guess now second most subscribed YouTuber, right? And he's just thinking in dollar signs like, how can you? can I capitalize off of this? So he wants PewDiePie to be in Cool Cat stops the school shooting,

which is a movie that was supposed to have been made before with Mumkey Jones. And they raised like $10,000 on Indiegogo with people believing that Mumkey was supposed to be in it. And then Daddy Derek

changed the campaign after the funds were collected and said, no, this is going to be a cooking stranger Danger Cool Cat movie and Mumkey is not gonna be in it I guess like so he just parked it yeah so this is this will be the third attempt to have a YouTuber in one of his films and it's not gonna work especially you know because it's public knowledge that the first two things happened I was supposed to be in his gun safety movie and then he did

the same thing changed the campaign after the funds were already collected which is kind of fraud? Kind of massively, yeah. Yeah. He doesn't know that though. Did PewDie Pie respond to this? I don't think he did.

I don't think he responded publicly to it, but I've been filling him in on all the lore. That's what I've been doing. The law. Yeah. There's a lot.

There's so much. There's a whole... Yeah, you're not wrong. You could make a documentary out of this. It's so interesting. Daddy Derek. You just need to have like a crazy ending.

Well, the public pitch video Derek Savage made is easily one of the funniest things he's done. Oh, yeah. Every time he posts a video on his channel, I download it just in case he deletes it. Because I just want to keep watching them. You have a whole folder of his videos on your computer? Yeah. Yeah. All of his videos are golden. And they're all very embarrassing.

Man, when he was talking about PewDie Pye's review and he was like, man, I just loved it. I was laughing so hard. and the example he gave to a part that he was laughing at was when PewDie Pye said, I can't understand what this bully is saying. And Derek is just like, ha, ha, yeah, we couldn't understand on set either. And I don't know if you guys saw the red suit interview

with Butch the bully, but like, he literally said, like, yeah, I had a speech impediment back then. And so the one part that Derek finds really funny is like, hey, this kid's got a speech impediment. And this is an actor he's worked with. But he was a bully, so it's fine. Yeah, I don't understand Derek.

Alex, he said you would have a question about this or something. Yeah, we had a question. Oh, about this? Oh. Yeah, they were just saying basically what you guys have already said. In my opinion, this just seemed like he made a desperate attempt at kissing his ass for some exposure because he reacted so positively to putipy's comments. Yeah.

It was completely on the other side when Alex and Adam made videos. with many of the same points. Well, he was on my side at first and then... Yeah, I ruined it. And then I made my fair use video. Yeah. There's so much to understand. There's no rhyme or reason.

Yeah. There's no rhyme or reason to what he's going to do next. Just flip a coin. Yeah, that's why I would never meet him in person. It's because he's unpredictable. Too risky. Yeah. And he'll be armed probably too.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That's why other people need to continue attending the 420 awards without us. unfortunately. Wait, that's continuing? Well, I don't know. Like, an annual thing. There was, like, 30 people for the first one. Depends if you made money, I guess.

Yeah, I don't know. He said he wants to make it like the fourth largest award show in Hollywood by like five years in or something. He's actually deluded. But it's in Vegas. So how's he going to do that? Yeah. Through our help.

Oh, man. We'll make it happen. Here's what you need to do, Daddy, Derek. You need to host the show. in Hollywood. You need to rent out a theater in Hollywood because that's where all the celebrities are. Yeah. Take out a big loan, rent out the biggest venue you can, and then people will flock to it. If you want to impress people, that's what you got to do. Yeah, learn. What you're playing at. What a saga. So yeah, I guess, like, my concern would be if PewDie Pye said yes, and then Derek would be like,

PewDie Pye's going to be in this movie. Everybody donate. And then he raises a significant amount of money and then changes it again like he already did twice. It's really difficult because, like, I enjoy his content and I want to support his content. But at the same time, you can't trust any sort of fundraising pitch that he offers at this point. Because it's so thoroughly documented that he just lies and changes things. So you don't really know what you're donating towards, if anything. But I want to see more cool cat shit being made, but I can't give him money. But you don't know if that's what's going to happen.

Yeah Like Neil Breen He always makes the movies He sets out to make And so like Yeah He's a great guy Yeah

He's a great filmmaker But like Daddy Derek He's not the same way You can't trust him People's art Are a window into their soul Daddy Derek Is a man who fucks a cat

And Neil Breen's a god We should get him on the cost Neil Breen Come on Daddy Derek Oh No Both of them I couldn't imagine

Have you ever spoken to him Have I ever spoken to him? Have you ever actually spoken to him? Like voice voice. No, I've never talked to him with my voice. Well, other than arguing in YouTube videos back and forth. Like you have. I feel like there could be humor.

If you could get to somehow wrangle him into an interview. It's not possible. It's not possible. I don't think it would ever work. Yeah. You can't trust him. Yeah. That's the problem.

You can't have him respond. have him responsible for recording audio on his end, first of all. That's true, yeah. When he can't even figure out how to do a live stream for his event that he was planning for several months. Oh, dear. Yeah. He can't trust him with anything. But I still love your movies, Derek.

And I will continue to wear your merchandise. Continue to support this con artist. If we wanted to talk about one other thing before we did the THX-1138 discussion, I do have in my notes one of the things that we haven't really fully discussed on the podcast, and I guess it doesn't need to be like a huge discussion, is the new Susperia. It was on our list of things that we could eventually talk about. Oh, yeah. It's been a while since I've seen it, but.

We've all seen it. Yeah. Should we even try to start that one? Yeah, I've seen it. I guess we can. I really love the movie. I really love the movie. I watched it.

I think it's one of the best movies I've seen a long time. I watched it a second time and I, this was something that I kind of felt the first time watching it too, but I guess it just solidified my opinions a bit more the second time. It is a little long. As much as I love it, I think it could have been cut down a little. I think the pacing could have been improved. I could agree with that. Is it a certain portion of the movie, like the first act or something? Yeah, it's, I guess, the first half of the movie.

It's a slow burn, but sometimes it feels like what you're watching isn't really contributing to the actual burn. It's got a nice tone and atmosphere. I like the universe. Very awesome set design. Everything feels really authentic. The dance choreography is pretty fantastic. Yeah, it's crazy.

Well, I thought it was terrifying. I thought it was really frightening. The imagery and the editing. The editing is, like, fantastic in the movie. I think that's what makes it. Yeah. Yeah, it does have some of that. Like literally so many fucking things that it could have gotten nominated for.

It should have won for editing, honestly. Yeah. The Year of Green Book. Yeah, it definitely should have been at least nominated for editing, perhaps Tilda Swinton's performance. As three people. Yeah. The soundtrack, Tom York.

I had no idea that he composed like all of it. I thought it was just the songs where you heard his voice. But I looked on Spotify and literally all of them is just Tom York. One of the best scores of the year. That's cool, yeah. Yeah. I remember watching it in theaters and without spoiling it, whenever the, when it gets to the first kind of like death that you see,

like very grotesque death, at that moment I was thinking like, holy shit. Like, it's been so long since I've seen a horror movie and been kind of scared by what I was seeing and being like uncomfortable. And like, holy shit, that's like that's actually terrifying imagery. It doesn't happen often at all. That scene was fantastic, yeah. And it went on for so long.

And they go really far with it too. The crackling bones. Yeah. It definitely does not hold back. I've got it literally like I can visualize the whole thing right now. Like that's the... It's very memorable either. That's what makes a good horror movie is like you see it and then basically can't unsee it.

Like you have something in your mind very specifically. It's not just some vague like, oh, this happened and this happened. It's like specific shots. specific shots that actually leave a lasting impact on you. Should we issue a spoiler warning? Because there's a, I guess, I guess let's do a spoiler warning. Yeah, kind of dancing around. Yeah.

You were talking about how, like, this movie goes all the way with it. Yeah. In every scene. The end ritual scene is fucking hard for the entire thing. It's, it's insane. It is crazy, yeah. Dancing naked people, covered in blood. I guess.

Crazy music and costumes. It's insane. I appreciate that it's different, and it's not a, carbon copy of the original. Yeah. It's its own movie. Almost like the polar opposite in ways, especially with like color.

The music's way more melancholy in this than like the old suspiciery music by Goblin, which was fucking loud and lots of drums and that stuff. Yeah. I think the characters are better written and acted in this one. Yeah. Like there's people to attach on to. This film has a little more subtext to it.

There's like feminist themes and the corruption of the witch. Coven and the old character has a history with the Holocaust. There's deeper stuff going on more so than the old one. Exactly. Even though the old one's a masterpiece too. I was going to say, is it still worth watching, though? I haven't seen the original.

Yes, but it's definitely a trashy movie. I'm not big on it. It's a very colorful horror movie, but the characters are idiots. And a lot of the sequences are really... Yeah, they're fucking idiots. And a lot of sequences are really cheesy. Yeah, I honestly, like, I appreciate it for what it is, but I'm not big into the original Susperia.

I love the remake. I love both of them for their own reasons, but they're very different films. Yeah. I'm glad you're able to enjoy both of them. I don't think I would watch the original again. I was kind of bored by it. I think it's crazy that I really wish I didn't know that Tilda Swinton was playing two characters before I saw it.

It was just some random article that told me, and then I knew as soon as I was watching it. I didn't know that. But I know one of my friends, like, had no idea as it was happening. You teased it, didn't you? Yeah, I did. Yeah, I did. Yeah, and I made sure not to say anything about it so that you guys could experience it that way.

Yeah, I had no idea when I was watching the movie. Oh, and so, like, did the movie finish before you figured it out? No, it was, it was bugging me so much that I just went on my phone and looked on IMD. to see who the actor was because I've never seen this person before and there's something about their voice that's like you can tell his voice was like high pitch off putting yeah like it's just something odd about it and it was just what was his name lutz odendorf was the actor's name they came up with yeah yeah in uh this director's previous film i am love in order to play the role she learned both russian and italian so that she could speak italian with a russian

accent. Wow. Isn't that crazy? It's commitment. She's worked with him a few times now. They're definitely friends. You'd never really expect a terrifying, brutal horror movie from the guy that made Call Me By Your Name, but here we are. There's definitely a voice and a vision, you know, and it's so, so rare to see that, especially when you're dealing with like a reboot or a remake, because those are almost exclusively done just to... capitalize off of name recognition. Disney, cough.

For me, the thing and this are the best horror remakes I've ever seen. Oh, yeah, the 80's the thing. They do their own thing, have their own style. Like, I can't think of two better examples. Yeah. And I guess Blade Runner's not really a remake, but I guess in the same vein of just like, oh, hey, previously existing property,

but somebody who actually cares is in charge? I hope there are more films like it, even though there probably won't be because the critical reception was mixed and it didn't make a lot of money. Yeah, and it's only got like a 6.8 on IMDB. Yeah. I guess audiences didn't respond.

There's literally no way to market it towards the average filmgoer. Like, I'd like to see A-24 try to make a trailer for it what they'd fucking do. They did like reaction videos to that first kill scene in the movie. Like, oh, look how disturbing this is.

And it doesn't really summarize the movie. It's not like Saw or something like that Yeah, it's just exploitation Like that's not the movie It's part of the movie It's a scene in the movie But you can't you can't sell people on the idea That that that's what they're going to get

The average audience member That you know, in order to market your horror movie Towards if you want to make money It's probably not somebody who's looking for like A thoughtful slow experience For a horror movie You know, you can't Yeah

Like who's it for in a way just a few people I guess Apparently like most of the total gross of Hollywood comes from like five percent of movies Which is like usually like Jurassic world Yeah now it's just Disney owns most of those you know so you need the movies like that to keep the industry going Otherwise the whole thing falls apart But there's also room for movies like Suspira that are fucking crazy yeah Do things that no one's ever done before so yeah as long as Disney doesn't push all these things out of theaters

But I guess that's what I don't think they're online streaming is for now too There'll always be a way to watch it And there's always a market for indie films and indie theaters Yeah, where I live in the country I mean getting to find the film in the theater was basically impossible for me unless I wanted to go way into a city So it's already that way for a lot of people I think with more out there indie movies

You just got a lot of people just have to wait So it's like out of yeah A lot of these foreign. films I don't even see till two years after they come out. Yeah. Yeah. You just have no way of being able to watch them. Yeah.

I like living in Vancouver. It has a really good selection for like foreign and independent films. Yeah. There's quite a few different theaters. L.A. has it too. Yeah. Montreal is like that. Yeah.

And then also film festivals help out a lot. Yeah. Of course, yeah. It's pretty much where I see most of my favorite movies of the year in theater. at least the ones I see in theaters. Did we have anything more to say about sister? No, I think it's great. You should all give it a shot. Five out of five.

Yeah. Yeah, I haven't seen it in a long time, so I can't really remember a lot of it. I mean, you have to re-watch it, but yeah, striking movie. I'd probably give it an eight out of ten. Too low. Yeah, I think I gave it the same. 11 out of 10 would be a better score. Speaking of film festivals,

I forgot to talk about Cannes on the podcast. I was a Cannes Film Festival. It was my second year. It was crazy. Crazy good? Out of all the film festivals there is, this one's the least about fun. You know, it's not about having a good time. Like, there's no popcorn or drinks at the theaters.

There's some screenings where, like, even before the movie, it's like 15 minutes before the movie, they just like, they won't let you. to use the washroom because it's like, oh, no, we're trying to fill the seats. Like, man. And it's so stressful, too, because, like, all of the badges you have, they're on a lanyard with, like, this tiny little, uh, releasable clip. And I'm just, I just look at that thinking, like, that's probably there so that a staff member can take it away really easily if you do something stupid.

Really? You know, like, there's this constant, constant worry of like, oh, my God, am I going to do something dumb and get my badge taken away? way. If you see a, if you see like a celebrity in the, the main building, the Palais du festival, you're not allowed to like stop and take a photo with them, which makes sense. And it's a good rule because it would just block traffic and like they have places to be. They're part of the jury. I saw Benicio del Toro last year and I gave him a nod and he nodded back. And that was the extent of our communication, but it was very satisfying.

Yeah, the stand-ups then. Oh, yeah. Easily my favorite movie of the festival this year was the Lighthouse, the new Robert Edger's movie, the director of the witch. Yeah. I can't wait for this year. Yeah, that was his first film. And I enjoyed it.

I enjoyed The Witch for sure. I wasn't, like, so blown away by it. But there was an idea of, like, okay, he's. obviously got some talent. There's obviously a lot of potential here. This is his first film. And you can definitely tell this guy's talented. The Lighthouse is actually a masterpiece.

It's like, it's insane. Really? Yeah. Yeah. It was one of the most like satisfying movies I've seen in a while. It's a 10 out of 10. It's horror, is it, for me? Would you say it's like frightening or what kind of horror are we talking?

It's psychological horror. There are much like, was saying with Susperia there are visual there's there's definitely imagery that I have in my mind you know where I'm just like there's specific shots even after only seeing it once where I'm like that was an awesome shot that was an awesome shot there's there was about like seven different moments in the in the screening when I was just like I found myself just like nodding like yeah that was great that was like like like like Like that was exactly what should have happened there.

Like that was very satisfying. And what's crazy about it is like it is a psychological horror. But it's also got comedic elements to it. Like not even like subtly. Like straight up there's comedy in this movie. And it's mixed so well. It's it's so balanced. And it doesn't detract from any of the serious scenes, any of the dramatic scenes or these scary scenes.

Like it doesn't detract from it whatsoever. But it's really funny. It's got Willem Defoe and Robert Pattinson. Great cost, yeah. The entire thing is black and white. Seems like it was probably shot on film. It's got like a 1.19 to one aspect ratio, so almost a square. And the whole thing is just pretty much just a contained single location, awesome movie.

And it just somehow works so well. Sounds great. William Defoe is like a parody level seaman. Like he talks, he goes like full Captain Ahab. And he does it so well. It's probably my favorite performance from him. Really? Yeah.

He's got the look too. He looks perfect. If he doesn't get nominated for an Oscar for this, which he probably won't because it's a horror movie or whatever, it's just like, come on. It's his best performance. He does it so well. Perfect casting.

He's been making a comeback recently. He's in a lot of great stuff. The Florida Project, he was amazing too. Yeah, he got nominated for that. He got nominated for the Van Gogh movie last year. Yep.

He's like, he's ranking in the nominations. He's doing a great job. Very incredibly satisfying movie. Yeah, calm white. Second favorite from the festival, Parasite, new Bong Joon Ho. It won the Palm Door. Yeah, I want to see that one too.

Yeah, that was awesome. I'm glad he's making Korean movies again his English ones are good but just not as good as his Korean ones How about once upon a time in Hollywood? I wanted to see it It wasn't playing while I was there so even though while I was there Yeah so I wasn't there for the whole festival because I was a part of the three days in can program but even though I selected the three days where you know on the Saturday they do reruns from all the competition films so

theoretically it should have been playing on the Saturday but I think the reason why they didn't play that one again is because Quentin Tarantino and is 35 millimeter or whatever like the film projection so yeah it I think there was only one theater capable to play it and it was like the main one that was doing other things that day so that's probably why they didn't play it again but that one's coming out soon anyway I'm not like super disappointed I didn't see it yeah the ones that I could have seen that I wanted to I did. I got a standing ovation apparently.

Oh yeah. Did you see that video of the standing ovation where the cameraman's like way too close to the actors and it's just super uncomfortable and it's just people clapping for like two minutes looking super awkward. It's so good. Oh man, you got to watch that video. I'll send it to you later. The only other one I really wanted to see but wasn't really able to because it wasn't playing while I was there. It only had like one screening. There's a new gas bar note. away movie. Oh, yeah. Lots of Turner.

Yeah, it's really short or something, isn't it? Yeah, it's like an hour, not even an hour. It's like less than an hour, but still technically feature length. It's got Charlotte Gainsburg. And I think Carson Runquist saw it, said it was awesome. We'll see whenever I get to see that one. I made sure during this festival that I was just like prioritizing the ones that I wanted to see and not trying to fill up as much time as possible,

seeing as many movies as possible. Because if there's things that are just like, oh, I could see this and fill up some time, those usually don't turn out well. Those usually don't turn out well. And when I've got a nine-hour time zone difference and I'm only there for a few days, I don't want to be staying up late

watching things that I'll regret, you know, when I got to wake up to catch a three-hour-long Terence Malik movie at nine in the morning. You know, I don't, I'm not going to be, I don't want to be falling asleep during those. So I only saw six movies in the three days, but it's also important to note that for the lighthouse, I lined up three and a half hours early. The people that lined up two hours early did not get in. And for parasite, I also lined up three hours early.

So there's a lot of waiting in line, too. Something else I have to remember. So six hours, just for those. two movies. Yeah, over six hours. Way. But worth it, because those were those were the ones I needed to see. Those were the ones where I'd be like kicking myself if I had the opportunity to see them and I didn't.

Right, yeah. And I guess the other movies I'll talk about in my quickies or whatever. But, yeah, it was a fun festival. I enjoyed myself and now that I'm 28 years old, I can't do the three days and can program anymore. So I have to

apply for some sort of like press accreditation, I guess. So that'll be interesting. The cutoff is 28. Yeah, it's 20 to 28 year olds for the three days in Cannes program. They just started the program last year. So it's for young people. It's to, you know, it's like free, free passes. All you have to do is write them a letter and be like, hey, I love movies.

Pretty much, obviously word it better. Oh, right. Be a bit more professional in your letter. But, I mean, that was pretty easy for me to do. And then apparently the more. times you you actually attend the festival like the more likely you are to get invited back so hopefully my two years doing the three days at can thing will mean that I'm able to get the press accreditation a bit easier one thing I forgot to mention part of the um stress of the festival

was uh I mentioned uh I guess last time we recorded that I um I had this very small window where I had to pick up my badge before the office closed and me like my flight getting in that was stressful but I didn't I made it in time to pick up my badge but I didn't make it in time to pick up the special invite

for this screening early the next day because that closed the window to pick that up was earlier but I was able to cancel the invite on my phone like within the last 10 minutes when I realized I wasn't going to make it because if you don't cancel your invite and you don't pick it up, then they basically blacklist you from getting future invites.

They're like, we're going to make it very difficult for you to ever get an invite again. But they allow you to cancel it up until the last minute. So, you know, a lot of stress, a lot of fun, crazy experience would recommend. Do we want to do the George Lucas discussion? THX-1138. THX-137. The George Lucas named his some sound company, THX afterward. I always wondered why it was called that.

Yeah, classic. So, THX-1138 is a film by George Lucas. Takes place in a dystopian future where everyone's mind is monitored 24-7. There's no individuality. And the lead character, THX, played by Robert DuVall, tries to escape. But I think this movie is kind of a masterpiece But also has some issues which will Discuss more so having to do with him

Changing the movie Yeah, we released it I honestly So the version that you watched before you recommended this Was that the original version? No, it was the remastered edition Oh, fuck Yeah

Really? Mm-hmm Okay, because like my issue is that he calls it a director cut. You shouldn't call it a director's cut if you're going to be changing so many things with 2004 computer graphics. Yeah. Like that's not a director's cut. Call it a remastered or special edition or whatever you want to do. It's the biggest issue with the movie. Enhanced edition. Yeah. It does such a disservice to the film. I wasn't expecting it. I think some very few times it was kind of fitting and I liked it. Like there's like shots of him walking in the facility and they

like CG, like a background to make it look a bit more grand and they add like elevators. Yeah, one or two of those were okay. One or two of those were right. But overall, it was really distracting. I just, I want the authentic experience. Like, because if we're

going to be talking about a movie, it's like I would prefer to be talking about the movie that people saw in the 70s. This is something different. Because it would also be a better film. Yeah. Those clips that are added in. Yeah.

Yeah, but this is his latest, this is the only one you can find anywhere. He wants people to sing, you know, this is the rocker's cut. Trademarked George Lucas, like, it would be one thing if he, if he released it this way, because obviously he wants it to, but then like, you know, give a special feature on the Blu-ray and just be like, hey, the original cut. You know, like Blade Runner Blu-Ru-ray, there's like four cuts on that thing. You can just do that. Why don't you want people to watch the original?

And there's different cuts of this movie on the Blu-ray. too like there's one with no music it's just the sound design of the movie which is probably the best part yeah yeah I would agree but yeah he should have done something like that and he's done the same thing with Star Wars he just releases the new versions

the CGI riddled ones where he adds a bunch of shit that doesn't need to be there and he's like this is the only one we're going to sell and you got to like you got to go online and Torrance an HD copy of Star Wars the original cut if you want to watch it that one yeah upscaled from a laser disc

or something and it's a shame because the remaster on this movie is stunning like the look of the movie looks like a modern day movie it doesn't look like a movie from 1971 I think it looks fantastic it's just they add all this shit that's really

distracting and adds nothing to the movie there's like him driving down the road in one shot with CGI that looked so cheesy that look terrible the monkeys at the end yeah what the what was that I was just shouting at my TV's I was like What the fun is this? What are you doing, George?

But then the actual car chase in the tunnel is fantastic. The sound and the look of the tunnel and the car. It's fucking amazing. But they add all this other shit that just detracts from the experience. The majority of my notes for this film are just calling George Lucas a prick. It's like, it makes no sense. It makes no sense. It just destroys it.

Like the visual consistency is just completely. Yeah. His justification. And from what I understand about why he does this is he's like, oh, well, if we had the technology back then, then I would have made it this way, right? But then he does things like making Han shoot second. It's like, well, what? You couldn't have done that the first time?

I looked at, as soon as I started noticing that there was modern, well, I guess 2004, so dated at this point, CG in this film. As soon as I started noticing it, I was like, okay, well, I have to figure this out. So I looked online and I saw like this website that compiled all the comparisons. Yeah, it's movie dash censorship.com. And as soon as I started realizing just all these different things that were changed, I just lost so much respect because in line with that justification of saying, yeah, well, if we had the technology back then, I would have done it this way.

One of the things he changed was like the opening credits, he changed it from white text to green text. And that was before it, before I even know. noticed that there were any changes before I knew that this was a thing. That was one of my notes in the film. I was like, that's an interesting decision. The green text crawling up backwards, you know, reverse credits in the film. I thought that that was interesting.

I liked the green text aesthetic. And then I realized that and I have to go back and change my notes and be like, oh, George Lucas is a prick. You know, like what? They didn't invent green text in 1971 that the technology wasn't there yet. What do you mean? You can't just go back and change all that shit and pretend like you would have done it anyway when there was nothing stopping you.

Like, when the, when the, when the, they added the, the, the eyeballs of the guy when, when they're doing the mind control thing. And it's like, that's stupid, stupid looking rolling back eyes animation. And then I look on this website and I notice that like, in the original, he was just looking forward. What? They didn't invent actors that could look up in 1971. What?

Like, what are you, what are you talking about, George? It's so sad because I was walking into this movie with the understanding or at least the impression that this was something that you wanted to show to prove that he's not a hack and I just wound up hating him even more by the end of it This solidifies how much of a fucking prick here I'm glad we're talking about the CGI because I do agree with you it's the worst part of this movie and it's very distracting It's easily the worst part and it's I just I don't feel like I've watched the authentic film I don't feel like I watched the real movie and I don't feel like I can trust anything you know like I agree with you that the sound design is one of the best parts of the film but now it's like oh well I'm apparently watching a super edited special version is the sound design I'm listening to the same as it was in 1971 how can I give it credit for that if

this is like the 2004 version I can't trust anything that's happening you know it shows such a lack of respect for like his own artistic integrity to me like a painting is good because of the permanence of it you can see every brushstroke if you could just you know touch a button and delete them like these famous galleries they wouldn't be impressive or important because like it would mean nothing and that's what he's doing to his movies because like that is the appeal of the movie you want to see what he was up to before he invented Star Wars yeah right that's the only that's the main reason people are going to be going back and watching this film but but he's

star wars did it's so it's so emblematic of the time too the film itself and the story he's telling and just to make to change it in 2004 granted he doesn't change anything that messes with the themes or the tone of the movie really it's just these awful visual effects that had nothing and are just distracting i want to see people basically revive leonardo da vinci using some dna and the first thing he does is he goes to the louvre and he scribbles on a unibrow on mona lisa and is like perfect like fuck off yeah that's a lightsaber gives her a tattoo It's so sad because like it's very frustrating It's taken over the discussion but it's inevitable

Like this is this is what we're talking about because that's no yeah That's definitely the most controversial thing about it's the most noticeable aspect of the film It's just how much he ruined it I want to know what it was like before now this is where I disagree with you that all of this ruins the movie It ruins my experience There's some things that I really appreciated I think there is moments where this the visual effects are really distracting but I think most of this movie is pretty fantastic and I think the performances are terrific I love the tone of it I love the atmosphere read sound the sets are fucking fantastic

I love this look of the future yeah where it's just it looks like the future and it's very sterile but there's nothing about it that's that would require much money you know but it kind of looks like parking garages and like these cement blocks and underground facilities with lots of wires and pipes. I love the prison setting. I think that was my favorite scene. My favorite sequence. It's like this white emptiness. It's very abstract. Yeah.

The subject matter of the movie and like the symbolism when he's talking to when he's like in the church booth basically. I guess that's what I call it. And he's talking to the the photograph of Jesus. Like that's fucking brilliant and so emblematic of the time and our relationship with religion. And stuff like that's so brilliant. and I can't take that away from him I think so much of this movie is just fantastic

and original yeah you can't take it away from him but he will yeah yeah he will exactly that's the most frustrating part is like the audience has to defend his fucking horrible decisions after basically the 70s

yeah as soon as CG became like kind of usable he's like well we made it what I find shocking at this point is like if this is how he he functions, if this is how he operates and he's constantly being like,

oh, this could be better. Why doesn't he do that again now? Like, he owns the rights to THX-1138 still, presumably. He doesn't, to Star Wars. Released this now. It won't look as dated. If you really want, why aren't you doing that now?

Like, apparently he thought that 2004 was perfect for CG. Apparently, he thinks there's no issues with that. Because if this is what you're doing, if this is your mentality then theoretically you should be fixing it again right unless you think it's perfect now

release two different versions or something let me see what it was like let us give us a choice I don't understand why he doesn't want people to be able to watch it in that way it's so weird you already released it you were clearly comfortable with it at one point

it's not it's not like we're watching some leaked unfinished product he released it and then he took it away yeah it's really bizarre back in the Disney vault for me

the most enjoyment I got was like the irony of it being this great antithesis of Star Wars like it really is the complete opposite it's a slow like thoughtful science fiction like anti-consumerism

movie that was a release right before literally the opposite like dumb space fantasy see mumbo jumbo. I thought that aspect was fascinating to me. And just imagining like his, just how he would have been like as a filmmaker and a person and how like,

it's always like the way, isn't it? Where when you're younger, you're just more, what's the best term? Good. Yeah. You also, you want to be more sort of altruistic, I guess, and more like,

I'm telling a story for the story's sake, nothing else, you know? So it kind of, you can tell he's really trying to say something a lot more than what he became afterwards. There was some passion there. Yeah. Yeah. I had a lot of like sort of,

it's another one of these movies to add to the list of countless films we've covered on Saldoncast now where it's like you can you can see like the imagery and how, you know, ahead of its curve and inspired by all these classic pieces of literature it was that we've seen just over the decades in science fiction specifically. So a lot of it is familiar. It was very Orwellian and... Exactly, yeah.

And I don't know if you felt this way, but I, you know, for 1971, it was, you know, it does seem pretty ahead of its time in some ways. I got some like System Shock 2 vibes from it and I'm wondering if maybe perhaps, you know, a lot of other pieces of art were inspired by this. Well, it really made me think of that game inside. Have you seen that? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I saw that. So he played that. It really reminded me of that,

which is obviously a positive. I think that game's fantastic, yeah. I really love that shot at the end. We're during the credits. I think that's a fantastic shot. But I look at it, I'm like, it wasn't the same in 1971? I love the use of monitors in this.

They cut to them a lot, and there's always this feeling that the characters are always being watched. And that's very creepy. I love that. And it's also kind of, It's kind of what happened in the world now, how we're all being watched by like the security cameras and traffic cameras and like the people hacking in the laptop cameras and all that stuff. Yeah, with it being Orwellian, it's usually just the reflection of a reflection of things that already exist in society that if exaggerated would turn into that sort of dystopian universe.

dated effects from the 70s are so much more charming and they would fit with the rest of the film even if something looked like bad even if it looked like it could have been a better effect or something you can watch a film from the 70s and be like okay well yeah you forgive it it has some historical context to it

that makes the piece more interesting it's that technology obsession that he has he always wants to be proving that he's like pushing things That's what that whole like re-released early 2000s like DVD editions thing was about. It was just inflexing like, look, we can improve so much, not realizing that it would be really dated in a few years. I cannot believe that he would sign off on that shot with the eyes rolling back in the guy's head. Because it looks like garbage. It looks so bad.

There was those dog things that really did it for me. Those monkey things or whatever those? Yeah. Yeah. Like, why are they there? They might just not have been there. You know, he throws a bunch of aliens into the Star Wars movies, you know? It's like, oh, there's another alien walking by here.

Yeah, it got to a point where he couldn't even stay consistent with things he wanted change. So he changed something then a few years later on the next release. He changed it again. He just kept going back and forward. I can't think of another film studio or director that has gone back and redone their movies in this way like he has. Disney does it. Because most people know it's stupid. Disney has done it a few times.

That's to hide their like mistakes, isn't it? A lot less noticeable, a lot more minor changes. So like in the Lion King, there was a controversy because when Simba lays down after he's sad and then the dust and you can see it spells out the word sex or something. So they just added more dust.

Yeah, those are little things though. You can't even notice that shit. Well, yeah, exactly. Like, it's a bit more subtle with Disney. What if there was like, like 3D CGI lions and like, yeah, I mean, I would prefer that they remain authentic. I would still prefer, even if it's more subtle with Disney. It's like, ah, come on, you know, there's that Fantasia one that we talked about. The super racist shit.

Yeah, the racism. It's so funny. Yeah, like, in the Lion King, there's some, like, there's ones that are understandable. Because, like, you know, with animation, sometimes when there's a layer that's like a background and then there's a layer of, you know, part of the rock that's about to fall and you can tell it's about to fall because it looks different than the background. So they like, they changed a bit of that.

They changed the shading when the, you know, they're running away from the hyenas. That it's like, okay, I can understand that. But then there's another shot where it's like during the Just Can't Wait to Be King, they completely redid a shot of like the alligators or crocodiles or whatever they are when they're singing they used to be they used to be like in a circle and now they were like parallel lines

next to each other and I'm like why did you change that it didn't look bad before is it noticeable I noticed it it's like it's completely I mean no one would notice this unless they're very familiar with how it used to look so like I have the VHS And I'm like, oh wait, that's different.

That's what so egregious though about like what George Lucas did to this movie in particular. You can't not notice it. Exactly. It jumps out. It like change. It's like another movie. You know like when you're editing a video if you accidentally drag a clip into like the first layer. So it just randomly shoves something else in it feels like that.

Yeah. Just another project is being played for a few seconds. Then it just disappears and goes back to the thing you want to see. Yeah. It's like some some animation student just. doing this for fun on a YouTube video. Yeah, that's how it feels. I was still able to appreciate parts of the movie,

even if the biggest takeaway was just me being pissed off at George Lucas. That was like the most consistent emotion I experienced during the film was like, I hate you. Why did you do this? I wish there was a way to watch the 1971 cut in HD, but this is the Blu-ray release. This is the director's cut. This is what George Lucas wants.

us to see and we're going to judge it as that. Yeah, but you can't to this, right? This is the cut. It's not the same movie. It's the director's cut. Yeah. It's difficult for me to give this a number at all because I don't feel like I watched the movie. Really?

I don't feel like I watched the movie that I thought I was going to watch. I just, I didn't even rate it on IMDB. I don't know what, like, because on IMDB it says it's a film from 1971, but it's not. There is part of me that thinks this movie is great, and I think it would deserve a five out of five. But George Lucas added in all this special edition, CGI nonsense, and I think that drags the score down a lot to a four out of five. And I wish I could see the original cut in HD, because I would probably give it a better score. I would give it three stars out of five.

I think if I could watch the original. one. It could potentially go up to three and a half or four star, but I just can't in good faith despite how much like I like the pacing of the film, like it didn't linger yeah, all the themes and the sets and everything. Yeah. But it's just, it's too much. It's too much of the added stuff. I just want to know what's what,

George. Just please let me, I want to see your original work. I want to respect your original vision. This is something else. You're a different person when you came back and edited the film. I always see what you were like as an artist back then. Yeah, you've changed, man. Get out of here. You've changed everything. Yeah.

Yeah. This is my, I'm abstaining from rating this film. Damn. Yeah. Sardonicast first. Yeah. Okay, so I think it's about time for questions. Head over to the Sardonicast Reddit with Ralph will leave a usually quite funny and

quirky thread to leave your little comments in. I'm not funny. I'm not funny at all. Swimming in like a cave in Mexico or whatever. That's pretty funny. You looked very happy with yourself when you recorded that video. Yeah. It looked like you're having some fun.

They were like, what the fuck are you doing? You're swimming in an ocean. You whipped it out and with your phone. Ask questions on the Reddit. They're like, what a fucking retime? What happened? T. Okay.

Alex Marum 11 can start us off this time, saying, What is your least favorite aspect of your favorite film? Which is a good question. Something bad about your favorite film. When Axon says that his chamber of

a thousand testicles was complete, he also said that there were a thousand other men. So wouldn't that be 2,000 testicles? The Holy Mountain. That's the only issue I have. Well, the dialogue. I mean, it's just, I don't know. Can you blame the, do you blame Hodoraski?

I guess? It's just, I mean, like, it just, it seems like an error. Because it's like each, each man has two testicles. That happens. Things like that happen. But it's really, exactly. Like, it's my favorite movie. Obviously, it means nothing in terms of, like, an actual criticism.

Every movie has little things like that. Yeah. I love this movie, Black Hawk Down. a pretty good war action movie but there's like a part a car drives by and you can see the cameraman in one of the cars like a different angle he's like he's got like a white t-shirt on and everyone else is fucking dressed in camo it's like oh that's clearly a cameraman those are some of my favorite goofs is like seeing crew members that's always fun like shadows of the usually camera the boom like that's a thing that happens the hard part of the questions it's

supposed to be your favorite film that's what he's supposed to be so what's hey one of the four Yeah, one of the four that you have on Letterbox, for example. So it takes something from there. His new favorite film is Black Hawk Down, though. I was just using that as an example. Yeah, Black Hawk Down is my favorite movie ever. I don't know. Damn.

What about like Under the Skin or something? I can't think of anything wrong with Under the Skin. There's probably something wrong with it. There's probably like a continuity error or something. I think Goodfellas has a few continuity hours. Well, I don't give a fuck. Yeah. Goodfellas isn't entirely historically accurate to what really happened.

I do have that issue. A lot of it's fabricated. But again, it's a narrative fiction movie, so I don't care that much. Yeah, it's a story. Yeah, some people complained about that with Chernobyl when that came out, that it wasn't entirely historically accurate to what really happened. Like, they made up this character that's supposed to embody, like, the work of a hundred other scientists. But it's a fucking show.

It's like, yeah, you're listening to. needs to it's a narrative it needs to make sense and we need to have a character beat here yeah so sometimes you need to do that in order to make a story that's watchable but in movies like bohemian rhapsody where they didn't need to do that that's when it bugs me yeah what about you alex um that's one i've debated with myself obviously so at my four i've got on letterbox i'll choose i'll choose the big lobowski's one there's one scene that kind of makes me just go a little bit and it's where Walter pulls out the gun on the baling alley it's a funny scene but something about it for me almost goes a bit too far yeah

when the whole film is supposed to be like a little it's kind of a self-contained story this it's not going for anything like crazy with like murder and conspiracies and stuff it's supposed to be like just dudes hanging out for the most part and that's that's one bit where it sort of goes a bit too far for me but it doesn't bug me too much much because they don't just like establish it and then there are no repercussions like it does have repercussions on the characters and in the movie but that's just one for me one little thing that bugs me every time I watch it it's difficult when it's your favorite movie because like yeah because there's always you've always you've always you've come up with an excuse for why that

doesn't bother you already so yeah maybe axon was just dumb maybe he was dumb and he didn't realize that there were two thousand texts yeah exactly Maybe he misspoke. I don't know. It's not really the point of the scene. Well, seeing as Ralph already mentioned it, we have a question from Food Child who says, what are your thoughts on the show, Chernobyl? Haven't seen it yet.

I'm looking forward to it. It's like the top-rated IMDB show right now. People guess you'll give it a 6 out of 10 at them. That's what... I think you'll give it a 7. Yeah, the subreddit seems to think I'm going to give it a 6. I don't know. I just think that's funny.

It is funny, yeah. It's just a mean, though, isn't it at this point. If you're going to guess, any number that I'm going to give a film you might as well guess six and you'll be right a few times I thought the series is great you watched the whole thing yeah I thought it's very good

yeah I saw it I watched it all over the course of a couple days yeah yeah I watched it all one day I was out of town I've been catching yeah I don't know how historically accurate it was particularly yeah well it's a it's accurate enough to be realistic in that you're always invested in the story. You're not distracted.

Yeah. Like the nuclear reactor doesn't really work like that in real life. All of that stuff is accurate. The events are accurate. It's just where the characters were and like all of them meet up with each other at some point. It's like, yeah, that probably didn't happen. It has a dramatic purpose and that's the goal of the show, right? Mm-hmm.

And also the amount of facts they were able to uncover is pretty impressive. Because there's one of the main characters in the show. was a guy that the Russians tried to erase from history, basically, the Soviet Union tried to erase. And they managed to find his, you know, work that he did and acted out in the show. It was a fascinating story, yeah. Like, it always feels like a documentary at points. Like, it's very informative despite the, like, dramatic nature of it.

That's probably the best thing about it to me. You do feel like you have sort of a basic understanding of the whole event after the, what is it? It's only five episodes or so, isn't it? Right. Five episodes an hour each. Yeah. So you get a good sort of overall look at kind of where it went wrong and what happened and the effects it had. Yeah, how they solved it. Yeah. That was the more interesting part because the first episode is just the disaster.

But the aftermath of it, one, having to figure out what happened because something like that never happened before. And two, them trying to prevent it in the future. and and you know that all that was fascinating that was way more fascinating I thought than the disaster itself yeah it's always the reaction that's the interesting part yeah as someone who hasn't seen the show yet the most fascinating aspect for me is that the series creator is the writer of identity thief starring Melissa McCarthy and Jason Bateman that is bizarre because that doesn't show at all like you would never guess no there are no Well, I guess with those movies too, like with these fucking comedies they write a script and they buy the script from this guy and the actors basically Improvise everything so they're working with like the framework of what he wrote, but I bet identity thief script is very different than the movie Yeah, that's a fair assumption because you got Melissa McCarthy fucking talking and waving our hands around Jason Bateman acting all like the straight man like he usually does It's also a matter of like what you're hired to do, right? Sometimes you're you've got a script to and you're essentially, like he was writing for Todd Phillips

for the Hangover 2 and 3, right? So, like, when you're going on to that project, it's like, what are you writing? You're not going to make a Chernobyl out of it. You know, you're going to make a Hangover movie. So it depends on like the goals. Hangover 2 was about as funny as Chernobyl. But that's what I mean.

Like, he's better at writing something like this than a comedy. It's very interesting. Craig, amazing. Amazing. Do you have anything else to say about the show? Yeah, it's not like the next coming of Christ. Like, this always happens. It's that Reddit effect.

Like, whenever something new comes out that's quite good, on Reddit, it's like, this is literally the best thing ever made in history up until this point. Yeah. It's like, it's just a good, solid, like, historical drama. It's not, like, redefining anything. Yeah.

and captures the events really well. The use of sound and the music is fantastic. Great performances, yeah. Bang on everything. It's just on point. All the time, we're constantly seeing over-glurification of really passable, you know,

but not, not like super risk-taking, not super out there sort of things, you know, so it's just obviously more people are going to be talking about how much they liked it if it's a piece of media that can appeal to more people. Yeah. I haven't seen it yet.

And it was also after Game of Thrones, which was awful. I guess because they're both on HBO or something. Yeah. So people like, yeah, they were like, oh, let's watch Chernobyl, which is on the same thing. And it turned out to be excellent. So. Right.

Yeah, I'd recommend it for sure. I'll watch it. At some point. Okay. Next. Well, we got an interesting question. We got an interesting question for, from Luca Tosti.

What are your thoughts on procrastination? As creators, how do you fight it? Any advice or particular routines that help you focus on your work? I think I'll answer that one later. I'll think about it. I'll answer it tomorrow. In the comment, Adam,

they're apologizing to you specifically. Oh. Because they never posted some interview you did with Isabel Huppert two years ago that you wrote questions for. or something. Oh, I didn't do that with her. They probably posted on my subreddit saying, hey, I'm going to interview Isabelle Hubert and then asked, hey, what should I ask?

Yeah, I just... They ended up procrastinating until they forgot about it. That's funny. Yeah, well, it's okay, no worries. I appreciate your apology. I wasn't like, you know, kicking myself every day, like, where's that fucking interview? Yeah, I mean, procrastination is a thing, but you have to like, I don't know, I've always found myself to be a person that is pretty, what's the word? Yeah, I guess motivated, I have good discipline, you know?

If I see dishes in the sink, I'm going to be like, oh, fuck it. It's just going to take like 10 minutes, you know, and I'll just do it. I'm not going to let them pile up forever. Unfortunately, I just have so many things that I'm doing that it's, you know, things wind up taking a long time because I'm just tackling so many different things at once. But sometimes I'll be like, okay, this project needs to happen later. And it's not necessarily procrastination because I'm working on something else instead. Right?

It's not like I'm going like, I'm going to play video games for a bit. You know, I never find myself bored looking to kill time. I'm pretty much just, I enjoy creating things. So it's, I don't know. It doesn't like, yeah, it feels like work, but it's not, I don't really do anything. else. I would say you just got to have a schedule. You got to divide up your work into little bits and say, well, because you can't just

do, I'm going to have a review done on June 20th. You can't say that. I watch the movie on this date and then write something by this date and then record by this date and just divide it up like that. Set these little deadlines for yourself that you have to meet in order to be productive. And then if you do that, that's what I would. always done this works just fine yeah and it's also a matter of like how how important is this to you right if it's not very important then it doesn't really matter if you're progressing it or not

right you can just never do it if it's not important to you but if it is important to you then you have to actually be able to say like hey this matters and do it if you've agreed to do it and you have a responsibility to do it then you have to and just divide that workload uh amongst some time give yourself some time to do it. Sometimes, you know, take a break, give yourself a change of scenery, but make sure that you're always making up for it and getting back to what you want to do if that's what you want to do. Like, you have to want it.

Well, yeah, that's the thing I struggle with the most is that you said if you, if like a video is required of you, like say you're doing a co-lab with someone and there is a concrete date you have to get it done by, that is like the best motivation because you don't want to let someone down. There's an expectation. But the weird thing about, yeah, the weird thing about what we do is that I guess the subscribers or the people that want to watch, they're the people you're supposed to be kind of appeasing. I mean, it's a weird thing that you also depends on like the videos you make. Like if it is just like pure facts or information, I suppose the process is probably quite different because you can get it down into more of a like weekly routine that you can just

kind of stick to perfectly. It does fluctuate though and you have to be willing to. to try different things and like I'll have like a week where I'm like doing way less but then the next week I'll be like so ridiculously busy like every hour of every day. Like it's never the same. But there are little tricks that help certain people like for example quite a good one I heard was that specifically for like self-employed people who spend a lot of time like in their own home. It can help if like when you get up in the morning and after you've showered and I'd or whatever if you just put your shoes on and if you keep them on until like the end of what

your equivalent of the work day would be so say 5 p.m. or whatever and then you take them off it can be sort of a you can change your mindset into being like a relaxed kind of thing um like a routine in the same way yeah we just get one dress like if you're going to stay in the house all day and work fucking dress well don't know around in your underwear yeah that's the hard to me though go out and get something to you know something to eat I wear I wear pajama pants like every day yeah pretty much yeah what am I doing I'm sitting in front of a microphone and then watching movies sometimes like yeah some days if I go outside obviously I put real pants on but I'm just gonna wear what's comfortable I'm not

dressing up for anybody yeah but being just well dressed allows you to work at home and then you can step out for an hour and then come back and you know Stuff like that. It's, again, it keeps you in that work mindset as opposed to, oh, I'm at home in my leisure mode. I've never felt that way, but I'm sure that could work for some people. Yeah, it helps me. It helps me too. Yeah.

Like what you were saying with the shoes. Yeah, it's weird when you work from home, though, because the mindset thing, where when do you, like, take the shoes off and switch off and not just completely. obsess and be a workaholic because you're just going to drive yourself insane. Yeah. You can't do it forever, it's the point. Yeah. That's my fear, like, is like burning out by a certain age and then just being like, I've gone, done it now.

Should have taken a, should have taken a break here and there. Yeah, exactly. Work hard, play hard. You do give yourself breaks. There's also places in where I am, L.A., where you can work in a building with other people in an office environment, but you're just doing. your own work and so with everyone else. Oh right.

That's cool. Thing. Yeah. And you can like talk with them and get coffee and whatever. But. And that's interesting. That you're doing the same shit. That's probably quite a healthy way to do it, to be honest.

Yeah. It probably is. You're separating work in your life a bit. Alex, you've told me too, like getting a dog. Like, it's just having some carbonating. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah, having a dog helps a lot because, I mean, you have to, you have to take it out every day. So that's you leaving your, your, your,

workspace yeah it puts you on a schedule getting a bit of exercise yeah it's just like you work at home and you can have videos out like whatever whatever date you can just stay in and then wake up 2 o'clock in the afternoon and like your schedule will get all fuck whereas a dog you have to wake up 8 o'clock in the morning and walk it and then go back and work maybe for a bit and feed it at 12 yeah keeps you that's a good point active but I'm I don't really feel like being responsible for another living oh yeah you if you like however you want that's a huge responsibility it's not something

I take lightly to do I'm also not having kids yeah yeah I mean your criticisms are valid because I mean like I do I just I feel like a workaholic my schedule gets messed up all the time but

we'll see see what happens eventually it's just there's so many things I want to do working on my album you know I'll have to take a break if I want to go on tour or something if that's happen but we'll have to see you let's do that you know a tour is rough that's a lot of stress yeah yeah but not that I would know but that's how it seems from documentaries and interviews with people who've been on tours yeah yeah we'll see it's just whenever there's like

my band is going on tour just feels like sometimes I'm in like constant catch-up mode and especially like I was away for like mostly three weeks and I was still working while I was gone but it's just I can't get as much as I want to done while I'm gone. And then like the entire last five days that I was gone, I was just like, oh, fuck, I want to go home. You know, I was just getting so anxious. Yeah, trying to keep people in the loop and just being like, yeah, I can't make as much content right now.

But like, I'm just always so eager to get back just so I can be like, okay, hey, I'm making people happy, you know? Like people want to see this stuff and trying my best. Yeah. It's an interesting challenge for Shul. Mm-hmm. Everyone has to handle it their own way. One more question?

Okay, let's do one more. Let's do this rather broad one from Asgear, who says, you often talk about how some movies have changed the way of filmmaking, for example, Jacob's Ladder and Eyes Without a Face. But do you think any movies have changed filmmaking for the worse, and which ones come to mind? Well, Star Wars has given that kind of designation. because that's what created the blockbuster,

which is what created this whole capitalist mindset where you've got to make a billion dollars and have cinematic universes and sequels and prequels and books and action figures or whatever. You know, that changed cinema for the worst, you could say. Yeah. Even though it's not a bad movie, Jurassic Park the same way, the way it revolutionized visual effects.

And then people are like, okay, well, we could just use visual effects for everything now. Yeah. A bunch of movies fucking suck. I mean, yeah, there's plenty of examples. there's that shitty found footage trend that existed like 10 years ago that was gonna be my answer

Blair Witch Yeah yeah but I was gonna say like I'm not sure if I could blame Blair Witch for it Or paranormal activity because Blair Witch existed But there wasn't like a huge fad of it right after But as soon as paranormal activity came out That's when it like exploded and everything was lazy found footage In terms of horror movies and I would agree with Adam

I think paranormal activity is the one to blame for that Yeah not Blair Witch right although Blair Witch obviously inspired paranormal activity but oh yeah whoever you want to blame but that's like what that's what created the genre

paranormal activity is what fucking like made it run into the ground yeah a cheap movie every year exactly like oh you could spend five bucks on these and make a hundred million dollars okay let's just make

20 of them and every studio was making that fucking there was one in Chernobyl there were a few in that There were like sequences of film footage. Oh no, yeah, sorry. Oh no, I mean like movies set in Trinnollable. Yeah, I heard about that. Yeah.

It's supposed to be fucking awful. Yeah. Makes no sense. Yeah. That Apollo movie. There was a really, that was a really annoying point in time for horror movies. It was. And now we're kind of coming back.

Horror movies are one of the best things. You can see in the cinema now. I mean, there's still trends. Now it's just a lot of ghost shit, like Annabelle, like Supernatural. Yeah, but I would even argue a movie like it is way better than the found footage movies From yeah, but it is the exception to the role it's not like a part of a trend or anything Yeah, like even during the found footage Era there were exceptions far better than that point as a whole I don't know there were there were great horror movies being made even in that

In that window certainly not mainstream ones that were again released in theaters and promoted like you got the witts recently and Baba Duke and Quiet Place and all these things are way better than that and you know you even got movies like Susperia that stuff that has more to do with like independent films being easier to market and distribute like A24 and A24 kind of coming in the forefront that's kind of what helped that too yeah exactly A24 is responsible for a lot of good horror movies yeah a lot of great recent horror movies they're distributing the lighthouse don't Fuck it up.

Yeah. I mean, it follows, too. Was it over anyone? And then at that time, you just got found footage garbage. That was basically everything. Yeah.

With some exceptions. Yeah, I'm sure there's other examples of... I'm trying to think of any big, like, trends aside from, like, cinematic universes and,

like, horror things. Can't really think of any. Well, I mean, we could point out the trend of, like, nostalgia,

cash grab, like, rebutes and... But who do you blame for that? Yeah, exactly. I can't think of a culprit really. Other than just Disney right now. I mean, like, is there a single film?

I'm not sure. I would kind of blame the Transformers movies because they were kind of the first movies to pander to China that I noticed anyway. That's a good... It's just crazy, you know? Yeah, that's a great answer. We threw this in for the Chinese market, right?

And not because it made sense for the story. Yeah. Yeah. Change your focus. It's not America that you're trying to make the movies. for anymore. What about like true life movies? Like movies that claim to be based on real life

events? Could you say that's a trend? I don't know he'd blame for that though again. Yeah. There's a lot of bad trends. The Christian movies, like the God's not deads and all that. That's fucking awful. Yeah. Not to insult anyone's religion or religious

belief. Those are just bad movies and really pandering and stupid. Yeah, I'm sure you get plenty of those in the States. Yeah. Oh. That's where they make all their money. They do very well. They like barely release here. You never see posters or trailers or anything.

It's like maybe one beer's playing it. You never hear about them here either. At least I don't. Because it's like where I'm from I guess. Yeah. The area I live in. But like these movies you see on the box office, it's like they make, they're like number two in the box office.

You're like what the fuck is this? Yeah. It's some Christian movie about how like the kid died and then he saw Jesus and he came back to life for something. That's exactly what I was thinking of. Heaven is for real. Yeah, it's so stupid. At that point, it's like less about the movie

and parents are just taking their children. Like, see, this is about Jesus and so. Yeah, it's good for you. See, heaven is for real. This little boy said so. You saw it. They need to make a ghosts are for real. All right.

I guess is that question. There's some good ones in there. Yeah, very good. I guess it's time for Alex to recommend a movie It's my turn, is it? Just want to double check Yes Yep, me

Yes Okay, well I have a movie that is We've probably all seen before But I'd quite like to discuss Because I think it's the most Interesting one to talk about In this series of movies

I want to talk about Alien Cubed Oh, nice David Finch's Alien Cubed. I think it's Alien 3 or Alien cubed, I don't know. Alien 3, but the 3 is little. Look where they put it though on NDB. Okay.

This is another one of those movies you need to mention. That's kind of infamous for its different cuts and things. Exactly. I would like to talk about the assembly cut if we could. It's included on most like editions. Yeah. So there's the original theatrical cut. And then in 2003, they released the assembly cut, which has slightly more footage, and it's supposed to be slightly more as David Fincher envisioned it.

Okay. So that would be the director's cut, basically. Yeah, but I don't think he actually had any involvement with it, so they're not allowed to call it that. Okay. Because he hates the film. Let's see. I checked on iTunes, at least in the UK earlier. If you buy it, it comes with both editions of the movie, so the original and.

the assembly so I assume it's that way for the Blu-ray or whatever else yeah I'll have to I'll have to see if it's on this Blu-ray I'm looking at it right now and I will find it does not really say if it's the assembly cut oh wait I had to look like in the extras like features and the iTunes like listing so okay yeah this is a this is listed as the theatrical version so I'll probably just get it on iTunes right yeah Awesome. I think that would be an interesting one. Sweet.

That's a good pick. I haven't seen it in a long time. Yeah, me neither. And I'm also much more familiar with like the first two alien movies than I am with the third one. I think I only saw the third one once a long time ago.

Yeah. No, I'm the same. All right. So if you don't want to get spoiled for Alien 3 directed by David Fincher, watch it before the next episode. You got two weeks.

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Thanks. Thanks. I barely slept. I really wanted to sleep. Yeah, it didn't happen. I got to get back to moving my stuff in. Oh, yeah?

Yeah. Well, have fun with that. We're all tired and busy. Thank you, everybody. Bye-bye. Thanks for this thing, everybody. Bye-bye.