Sardonicast - Sardonicast #48: Parasite, Performance (feat. Dunkey)

Episode Date: December 2, 2019

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Three, two, one. My name is Adam Johnston, and I graduated from one of Canada's top movie schools with really good grades. Now I'm using my knowledge to help struggling co-host make it in this competitive world. This is Sardinicast for you. I'm Adam from your movie sucks. I'm Ralph from YouTube.com slash Ralph the Movie Maker. And I'm Alex M.A.C. And we are joined by a very, very special guest.

Sir Duncles himself. Hey, it's me Angry Joe Oh no What an honor What have you done with Sir Duncles Oh shit Sorry guys

It's me Angry Joe I'm on here Sound a bit different So Tell us Tell us about Tell us about your channel Your Angry Joe reviews

Well you know Me and the boys We like to do some Video game goofs Kind of to make some jokes about some games playing this great game Death Stranding

you guys would really love that I'm like I think I'm halfway through that game but I'm not sure I've done about 15 hours I think I'm on chat before yeah you're about you're about done with the first part yeah of 18 parts

yeah I'm like I feel like I've committed myself too much like I need to make it to the end and I only play these games like once a week, so it's going to be a while. I haven't played it, but I'm excited to. What do you do in the game?

Your postman. You work for Jeff Bezos. Oh, cool. What else? That's it. Oh, cool. It's pretty much it. Yeah, memes aside, I've always really appreciated your

you're really fast-paced editing on your channel. I've always really valued the idea of cutting out the fat, and that's kind of been incorporated into my editing style as well. It's very marketable, and I like your content a lot. Thank you. Thank you so much. My brother does too. He got me a donkey shirt for Christmas. Oh, yeah. People are showing me that. Thank you. So we'll have some dunk-dunky-ish questions kind of near the end when we go into question time. We've got a few topics that we're going to discuss here.

So we're going to try and get through those. The new Sonic trailer came out and they fixed him. They fixed it. After 30 million more dollars? They fixed the whole movie. The jokes were slightly

better. The editing was faster-paced and it just looked like a better movie in every way this new trailer. And I don't know if it was intentional or not to make it seem better than it actually is. The thing is, like, they not only learned from the mistakes of the character design, which was everybody's, like, major problem with it, but they also learned in terms of, like, marketing a trailer. They didn't do the Gangsters Paradise.

I almost said Gangsters Parasite. You know, like, they seem to have had a better judgment for what the trailer should look like. It's still not going to be good. I don't think it looks like a good movie at all. Definitely not my thing. contrast is what is making it stand out. It's like that first trailer was so, so abysmal. Like, that's the only reason anyone was talking about this movie to begin with.

Like, it looks so bad to me that it was actually interesting. Now it just looks like, I guess that's just going to be a Sonic the Hedgehog movie then, like the kids. It looks like the Pikachu one. Did they recast Jim Carrey? No. No, he's still in it. Okay. The perfect egg man.

But you don't know. Jim Carrey being Eggman? What if they never even had them and they just recased them? Yeah. They only brought them in for the trailer. There's a bunch of people online saying, like, they're legitimately convinced that it's a conspiracy, that the studio planned this from the beginning. Some marketing stunt. As if they would be, as if that would be a thing.

That would be a genius marketing. Yeah, it's too intelligent. Too ingenious. They're not clever enough for that. Yeah. There's too many people and too much red tape behind that sort of thing for that to be an actual marketing campaign. You could expect it from like an individual operating like the Wendy's Twitter account or something, but not like the entire marketing campaign for a film. That's that's not realistic.

Yeah, it's risky, but it could be done. And I think that's what they did. Maybe they'll have like a special Blu-ray release where you can get the original. They're not going to do that. movie with that original model? Oh my God. They would be so good. I always thought that it would be awesome for like every movie that uses a lot of like computer

generated effects and green screen shit. I always thought it would be awesome if they as a special feature released a cut of the movie without any effects and it was just a bunch of actors running around in the green screen. Because like there's a lot of animation studios in Vancouver. A lot of movie making happens here and I've got some friends in some industries and they've let me walk around in the studios and I signed some NDAs. So I won't say which studios, but watching the footage of like these major movies where the actors are just like running around in a green screen room pretending to be like

scared by things. It's just so funny to me. And I wish that I could just see a cut of the movie. But I don't think they'll ever do that because it just like, it almost exposes it. You know? They kind of did something like that with a double make cry five. Oh, yeah? There's like an option where you could you could like select to watch the cutscenes and I mean it's a video game

It's all 3D, but then you could watch like people just Pretending to make the cutscenes with like cardboard boxes and like action figures Oh So like the fans versions or yeah they're like okay how are we gonna how are we gonna make them do the backflip And it's just like a Japanese man doing backflips with like a little action figure on a stick So like like Shrek retold signation It's pretty much Yeah, it's amazing. It really is amazing. They should just do that with all movies.

Yeah. Especially with a movie. But if you release that, if you release that footage like that with all the green screen in there, people would just add their own shit in. But that would be great. Oh, yes, for us, it would be great. But I can imagine studios don't want that. It's the modding community. Yeah, I don't know. They don't want this. Sometimes it's that sort of thing that will propel the success of a product.

You know, like Star Wars wouldn't be nearly as. as much of a cultural phenomenon as it is today if George Lucas was like super pissy about copyright and you know he always let people you mean like Disney is now? Yeah like Disney is now. Yeah like

they don't even like the Star Wars fan base You hear about all these like directors and artists that made like Star Wars parodies and they're like yeah George Lucas didn't even charge us for licensing for the song he was like yeah whatever right like he was totally

totally on board with people remixing his work, which, you know, as much as you can hate the guy for a lot of other shit he does, that's one thing that I respect. Yeah, he was like always anti-establishment kind of like, fuck the system kind of thing. Like he would make, like independently almost funded empire by himself from like the prophets of the first movie. Like he's not an idiot. And he kind of gets the craft a bit more than like a suit would at Disney for example. He likes to edit his own stuff too, like some remix his own. seeing shit. Yeah.

Like, T-HX. It seems to be right on board with it. Um, back to, back to Sonic, I guess. I'm kind of disappointed

by the fact that they changed the design at all. Like, it is refreshing for, for people to feel as though their concerns are being met. Uh,

whether that's a slippery slope or not, I guess we'll decide. It's almost like the trailer was like a test screening. But part of me feels as though, The movie would have more meme potential with the original design. 100%. The emoji movie was incredibly successful, and that was just because people saw it ironically.

I don't know about that. I think it's because stupid kids, yeah, mostly stupid kids. 99.9% stupid kids, and then Alex saw it ironically. The internet is a direct reflection of real life. All adults in the emoji movie, Peter. I thought that Twitter was the real world. Sometimes I forget Not a single kid in the theater

You never know I see that crap I didn't watch How do we actually feel about Sonic though As a character Do we care Are any of us like fans What is his character

He's fast and he eats chili dogs He's blue No there's more to it than they are Oh go on Please tell us Oh I don't know It's blue

And the blue And the blue symbolizes his sadness Sure. But wasn't he around because Sega needed like their own mascot? They just wanted to copy Nintendo. He was supposed to be the edge, the edgier one than Mario. Oh, okay.

He's supposed to be cooler than Mario. Because he has sneakers? Yeah. Oh, cool. Yeah, Mario's like an old Italian plumber. He's not cool. Yeah, he's not cool. He's such a 90s leftover for me.

Oh, okay. That'll be the true test to see if this is how to stacks up to the Mario movie. The original one with Bob Hopper. I guess he couldn't... Well, I mean, like, that's a product of its time. But I mean, I guess he couldn't really make like a current version of Mario movie in the same way that you could a Sonic movie right now. No one would want to see that.

They're making a Mario movie, though. Are they? I think it's coming out next year. What? Yeah, it's animated. Oh, no. Yeah. Did you tell me about this before?

At least it's animated. It'll be stupid. It's an illumination, right? Sure, but at least it's not live action. Like, that old Mario movie was like that old Mario movie was like, a nightmare to watch it's like all brown and they're like lizards it's fucking scary I know nightmare movie is inspired by Blade Runner wasn't it was like blade runner I was like why weird I guess I have to watch that oh totally we should

recommend it on the show yeah have you seen have you seen the clip of it's on YouTube it's like Yoshi's voice slowed down and it just sounds like a regular Japanese guy just a guy oh yeah no it's They're not even Italian. Just a freaking dude they had working in the garage. Don't say Yoshi. Ow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. That's a good one.

All right, we're going to use that for the next 30 years. Yeah. If someone took that clip of me saying that right now and sped it up, you'd have Yoshi. Identical. Nintendo would do it. Kobe write that shit now. Uh-oh. It's like those chipmunks CDs

where you slow it down and it's just like three dudes. Oh yeah. Is that the same thing? What do you mean? That's messed up. It was like a crazy new thing at one point where you could speed up people's voices and then just have them like a small character.

Like nobody knew how it was done. You ruined the illusion. Yeah. That's what I do. I thought those chipmunks. So they're real. I didn't connect the dots with the Yoshi That is all they did

They just did the Yoshi trick Yeah Anything else to say about the Sonic trailer Or we pretty much covered that No It looks better than it did before But it won't be good I hope stupid kids enjoy it

Like they didn't rewrite the movie As far as we know Yeah Like all the bad shit we saw in trailer one Is still gonna be in there Just a different design They might have removed all that I told you

They just shot that stuff for the fake trailer they were going to make so they could make a good real trailer later on. Yeah, sure. I think we should start a revolt and see if they'll go back. See how many times we can get them to go back. Yeah, spend another $30 million.

They deleted all the original source files. How many times can we get them to change the model? We'll have like 10 trailers of different Sonic models. And there will be a point where you can just go to which theater. You can pick the theater. You want to see the... Yeah, we want to pink Sonic.

Different theaters will show different versions of the movie Yeah, I want to have five different Sonic versions that I could go and see in a theater And I'll marathon them In one day And I'll let everybody know which one is the superior Sonic But that's what it's about now It's not about making art or having your own vision

Oh my God You just have to hear what the audience wants And then just do that It's kind of sad There's this, I found this on Twitter I think David Sandberg retweeted a threat about this. There's a movie from 2004. It's listed on IMDB as a very cool Christmas,

but it was also released as Too Cool for Christmas. And it has the most bonkers trivia that you have ever seen. I thought I'm going to read to you right now, and it's related to what we were just talking about. There are two versions of the film. The one that features a homosexual character, and the one that doesn't. In the one called Too Cool for Christmas,

Lindsay's parents are actually a gay couple. In the version called A Very Cool Christmas, Lindsay's parents are a heterosexual couple. What? Barclay Hope plays her dad in both versions while Adam Harrington plays the other dad and Hope's husband in the first version and Ingrid Torrance plays her mom

and Hope's wife in the second version. Other than the gender of the actor that plays the other parent, the two versions of the film are virtually identical, with identical lines being delivered by both the actor and the actor, and exact same camera shots being used for their scenes in both versions, as if the two versions of the film were shot at the same time.

Yeah. It's like they just swapped out the actor for the tape. It's like, okay, you said it, and then they brought in the gay actor. One for the more tolerant Canadian audience, and the other for the presumably more conservative U.S. audience at the time. The conservative U.S. audience, like, we couldn't handle it. I don't know. That's one of the true masterpieces, though.

Yeah. That ensign. It's the start. It's the start. How movies are shot. Yeah. We need alternate versions. We need DLC in movies is what we need.

That's what like sequels are. Yeah. Yeah. In a sense. Kind of. They've tried their best to like monetize every aspect of cinema though, haven't they? 3D. You got like, in the UK, they started like splitting up the sections of the cinema into like, yeah,

now the seats of the back. a premium so there are a few quib more. Do you guys have deba- really? This is going to end. Uh, no. It's so lame. I do.

It's so lame. De-bart. Another one where yours chair kind of moves your own. Yeah. You got like a fucking vibrating, moving chair where it's like, you know, you know there's like amusement park rides where, we're like, there's this screen and it's like,

oh, wow, you're really flying through this jungle or something. It's like that, but regular movies. And so there are certain movies where they basically have, like the studio will pay like a certain amount to get it translated into D-Box code and so like a lot of popular action movies or whatever yeah so like the dark night rises I watched in D-box it was the most distracting fucking thing in the world it was like yeah at some points it was kind of cool you'd see like a shot of a motorbike going like swaying from side to side and your chair would sway from side to side it's like oh that feels kind of cool but then in the action scenes it's like someone gets punched and your chair kind of just jolts to the side and it's like what what perspective am i watching this from am i the man being punched and it just totally takes you out of the movie and it's so bad and you pay extra for it's like a rumble pick yeah exactly put the rumble pick and a control oh fuck i miss rumble picks i saw they did one where they blow air at you oh but like a theme park thing right not like a real

movie thing right uh maybe yeah it was like called 4d movie. That's probably there's a theme part. Yeah. Like if you go to Disney World like Shrek 4D, Spy Kids 4D. Wait, oh, that's that 40 you had to like scratch and sniff the card. Yeah. It was terrible. If you've got to do 4D, it's got to be a theater made for

it where they like pump sense into the theater. That's usually only at amusement parks. Yeah, it's a lot of money. The Shining 4D where Jack Nicholson first through the door with an axe. You got to run away. And like when the blood comes out of the elevator, they spray like water at you.

So wait, in the D-Box one, does everybody see in the whole theater move? No, it's like some people not. It's like a session near the back. You would just be like hearing that. Like in the, you would just be hearing people go. Oh, what the fucks to it? It's really like, there's this. Scorsese is kind of right when he said that movies are kind of being turned into like amusement park rides or whatever he said.

You know, like the same general idea. You know, a lot of people, I guess a lot of people go to movies for different reasons. but yeah we were saying another episode that like the film festival experience is one of the best ones you can have because everybody's there to watch the movie not to kill time yeah or get to second base yeah they're respectful they know the rules they don't take out their phone no deep box no no debugs though with fucking seats shaking scratch and sniff yeah yeah you can't you can't watch the lighthouse in debox oh no it's bad I want to see like a drama in D-box.

Yeah, what the fuck? I would love to see that. Ironically. The Barry Land did three hours. For a dream in D-Box. You have cancer. That one would actually be cool. That could work, but I want, like, a really slow movie.

I want, like, Gene Delman in D-box. Yeah. Like, three and a half hours of a woman cleaning her house in D-box. That would be epic. When she, like, wipes the plates. Oh, yeah. Like, sway. You can be in the perspective of the plate.

You can feel like you're being washed. You can feel like you're the meat. You can feel like you're the meat. meatloaf she's making. In the oven, yeah. Yeah, and your seat heats up when she throws it in. I mean, it sounds stupid, but that's what they're doing, basically. Yeah.

That's what Hollywood is now. We're exaggerating, but it's also true. Yeah. It's a sad part. So we all watched a really great movie in theaters called Parasite by Junho Bong. My favorite Bong. What did you guys think? well I just said it was great but

I don't I'm not trying to influence your thoughts on the movie but what do you guys think it's brilliant yeah I saw it in D-box and I loved it why'd you hate it Ralph what's your problem oh I hated it yeah so what is it everyone rated this movie

10 stars and I read it it's the highest rated movie on letterbox it's the best movie of all time and I'm just saying like yeah I give it like a four out of five it's really good I really enjoyed it Oh, so you hated it. Yeah, I hated it. But this film is excellent in so many ways.

It looks beautiful. The acting and the depiction of like this cartoonish, but very likable, relatable family, both of them. I really enjoyed that. And it was just really clever. It was great. It was clever, yeah. Because I didn't watch trailers anymore, so I had no idea what the film was about when I went in. But I didn't know the title, obviously.

You watched the Sonic trailer. Theorizing in my head. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Because I can't resist Sonic, but I was like going through my head, what parasite? Is this going to be like contagion or something and be about like literal parasite? It's a weird title for what it is, but it still makes sense. No, but I think it turned into something a lot more clever to me with the, what are we talking about?

Let's give a spoiler warning right now. Spoiler warning for parasite. You should all be able to see it no matter where you are at this point. You should be able to see it. So go watch it. It's great. Spoiler warning. Go for it.

there are certain ways in the UK that I won't condone but yeah the name is a suggest what the you know the characters do in the movie and are really you say like exaggerated and like the acting and the presentation is but the the way the like parasitic title is integrated into the story like slowly but surely I thought was really clever and the way it kind of represented the sort of class warfare that this director seems to be really interested in because it reminded me sort of thematically of Snowpiercer a little bit, but in a much more interesting narrative framework for me. Yeah.

It was also like Okja in that it was presented very friendly. It has like a very shiny veneer, but what goes on is actually really fucked up. And the end of the film is like really disturbing and crazy. It's really violent. I enjoyed that aspect of it. Yeah, it's one of many examples of great Korean directors being able to. meld several genres at once together and not taking away from anything that it's trying to accomplish. So the humor doesn't take away from the seriousness, vice versa.

And I think it works really, really well. I don't know if you guys have seen any of Bong's Korean movies, like the ones in the Korean language. Like Snowpiercer and Okja are pretty popular, but... The host, right? Yeah, the good host, yeah. Not the Stephanie Meyer one. The one with the I can't say her fucking name.

The Searsha Ronan? Sorcia. She's Irish. Sirsha Ronan. Orish. I didn't even know they remade that movie. What? No, that's a different.

No, it's completely different. It's not a remake. Yeah, it's not a remake. It's based on a Stephanie Meyer novel. It's like, it's like. Stephanie Meyer never saw the host. The main conflict is like, how will I kiss two boys at once? It's literally the main conflict.

That's pretty similar. Yeah. It's like we talk about so many movies on here that do have a remake, that Martyrs remake. I'm just expecting it at this point that every good movie from like foreign countries. They'll probably remake this perisite. Oh, I wouldn't be fucking surprised. This is like one of the most successful foreign films in terms of like general knowledge of a theatrical release. Like the mainstream public to some extent is like talking about it, which is not for like a Korean movie.

It's a really entertaining movie. It is. It's about as entertaining. It's like something Quentin Tarrantino would put out. Yeah. It's very satisfying. I've seen it twice. Both screenings, there was applause in the theater at the midpoint when he pulls the blood out of the trash can.

Because that was just such a perfect buildup, the music and everything just like leading towards this climax. And it's just like at that moment, it's like you can tell everybody in the theater is just like, loving this movie. I don't know about you guys. The story had a lot of great twists that were just, you never knew where the story was going the entire time. When they found that basement, what the fuck is going on? That shit was about to get really, really fucked up in the ice.

I thought it was like, oh, this movie is like allegorical, right? Because there's no way there's like this fucking creepy basement in this. But they really found a way to rationally explain it. I'm like, oh, I guess that makes sense. They did play the violin stock sound effect at that part, which bothered me. I might have taken away from the score. Right. It's just stock sound effect that I always complain about Dunkie.

It's used in every fucking movie and show. It's this violin. No, I don't think they... Crescendo. I think that there's a lot of movies that score violin in the same way to get the emotional reaction. I don't think it's a stock sound effect, though. Depending on the movie, I'm sure like the stock sound effect surely exists,

but I don't think... I would be very shocked to find out that, like, it wasn't actually a part of the score for this movie. It took the MP3, but it's the same trick I always don't like. But that's a minor thing. You could call it similar to, like, soft piano when a character dies sort of thing. You could call it similar to that. And I can't even call it that. Because that's, like, a variant.

It's, like, different notes. This is, like, the same exact violent crescentos. It's the same fucking thing every time. Yeah, I guess so. It's so cliche. But anyway. Oh, yeah. Something I did like, the rich family and like a lesser movie would be totally unlikable.

But I actually really enjoyed them. And like the mom was, she was annoying and overprotective, but she was a good mother. And you could tell she cared about her kids. She wasn't like a mean or like anything really unlikable. Oh, yeah, they're almost kind of like oblivious to the whole class warfare thing. Yeah. It was kind of like the central, one of the central themes is that like the rich people don't have to get dirty, they don't have to do all this horrible shit. These people at the bottom have to always get involved in this fucked up shit.

Yeah. They're the people that have to do all this horrible stuff. Meanwhile, they're stealing all this food and they don't even notice because these rich people are so oblivious and up to their ass that they don't even care. The same event will affect different classes of people differently, you know? Like they look outside. oh it's raining how nice or like oh we had to cancel our little uh we were going to go out and go camping in the woods and have like a nice family get together oh no i guess we'll have to go back to our mansion while our uh maid makes us some delicious food ready for when we get back in like 10 fucking minutes

oh no poor me meanwhile like the family's literally losing their home and like all of these people are now displaced to this this uh camp in this like gymnasium where they sleep overnight and everything's ruined. Like their entire lives are decimated. You know, and they're just oblivious to it. Like, they're not aware of it. Their apartment that, like, underground has, like, the window open that leads into the street. That was a set that they built for the movie.

Apparently, the mansion was a set, too. Oh, yeah? I didn't know that. But, like, that whole fucking street was a set. And it's because they had to flood it, and they wouldn't be able to flood it, like, you know, in a normal apartment complex. So they had to build all that. Yeah. It's a really impressive.

It's an incredibly ambitious movie, and it's filmed very, very well. Like, you don't see a lot of the same shots being reused. It's not like A camera, B camera, repeat. Like, every shot is like a new thing, a new perspective, and it's purposeful. It's very smart. The reveal of the basement, it would like follow the... It was like a tracking shot following them down as they went down the stairs, and it just kept going. It was really well done.

Yeah, but it was simple but effective. And the, because there aren't that many locations in the movie. This, what, three, four maybe? But, yeah, the way they present it is so fresh every single time. It doesn't feel repetitive in the way some of those sort of bottle movies can in that way. It doesn't overstay its welcome at all. Mm-hmm. It's very fast-paced.

Because you just get wrapped up in the, like, drama of the, you know, the lies that are slowly going to unfold and the tension. Like that sequence where they have to hide because they come home early is such a great moment. Oh, yeah. Yeah, like hiding under the freaking little floor thing. Because you know that it's going to unravel eventually and you're just waiting to find out how it's going to happen. And when it does, they start having sex on the couch.

It's like that moment was great because it's like comedic but also really uncomfortable. You're not sure how to feel. Yeah, it's a really great setup for conflict. And you know enough about the characters that even though none of them are perfect moral human beings, you actually care about every character in the movie. Like, everybody has their own motivations and, you know,

or somewhat justified in what they're doing to some extent. And you can understand. Even the guy in the basement. Yeah. Who were introduced to like halfway through the movie. In real life, this would be like a no drama situation. And then in the movie, it's like the most insane shit. Yeah.

It's like, oh. It's exaggerated to the nth degree. Among the, uh, 1% on Rotten Tomatoes that gave this a negative review I think it was three total reviews out of some hundreds We have our old friend Armand White

Who There he is Oh, the master Yes Who calls this The title of his article On National Review is Parasite

Antifa comedy for the cancel culture era Yeah What? What? Antifa comedy? Really? He projects hard, doesn't he? He does so hard.

And he doesn't perfectly align with his conservative views. He's like, this is terrible. Fucking Christ. Yeah. I think Armand makes a great point. And in his review, he calls Okja, Oakji. I don't even think that's corrected yet. Oakgy.

Like, ironically? Or he just fucked up? He just doesn't know what he's talking about. He's just... He's convinced that this is just some sort of like... Property is theft propaganda sort of thing. Like that's all he gets out of it. Yeah.

There's a lot more going on than that. Yeah, a lot more. Bong is an unfunny extremist, he says. Oh. Extremist. Yeah, that's... He made a film. What's extreme?

Yeah. Dunkie, you covered Armand White at one point, right? Yeah, he's one of the true masters of film. criticism. I think so. Kind of opened my eyes on the Man of Steel trilogy. What do you say about that? Well, the Man of Steel films are some of the greatest films created.

Okay. As you guys know, too. Oh, yeah, the Zach Sider. Yeah, Zach's Man, one of the great filmmakers. Did you see Justice League? No, I didn't see any of these. I just saw Man of Steel on TV once where they were fighting for like a half hour. Oh, you mean the last half of the movie?

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's basically, that's all that's worth watching. No, I think I did try to watch Man Osteel, but I turned it off because it started getting really weird and gross. Like Superman was like screaming and like blood was coming out of them or something. Oh my God. There was like a scene. And the whole city gets just annihilated.

He gets a snap. The people screaming in pain as they're like lifted into the ground and then smashed like down. Really brutal. That was not very extreme at all, though, unlike Parasite, which is way over the large. Because Bong Joon Ho is an extremist. He says that Parasite won the Palm Door at Cannes Film Festival, which has become a yearly celebration of films that claim progressive anti-American attitudes. Did this film say anything about America, really?

I mean, it was kind of an anti-capitalistic message. I mean, some of the symbolism was kind of on the nose with, like, the, the layers, like the lower you go, the shittier stuff gets, you know, the house is like up on a hill, and then you go in the basement, there's a weird guy in there, and then you go way down. Shit is getting flooded. Hot take, I believe that you can criticize the negative aspects that have become byproducts of capitalism without necessarily advocating for a different type of economic system, right? Because like most of the problems that come with capitalism are not necessarily ones that are intended

by capitalism. You know, you could say that we don't necessarily even have true capitalism right now if corporations are rigging the market in different ways, right? Like, that's not a free market. That's not fair competition, which is theoretically what capitalism is supposed to be. Anyway. And you can apply that to America, but I don't think the movie's explicitly about America. I think it's just about that class warfare.

I mean, that exists pretty much in every country, too. It's limited to America. It's just human neighbors. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, from what it looks, it seems quite extreme there. You have, like, characters living in an apartment in, like, the shittiest place you can imagine. And then you have the rich people living in the nicest fucking.

They have, like, their own backyard that's, like, has these tainted windows. It's beautiful. So that disparity was, I don't know. But, like, of course, that's going to be what they pick to do. Because you need, like, a conflict in your movie. And why would you not pick, like, off. opposites on a spectrum instead of like what do you want like just the middle of the spectrum like with a slight little difference like where's the drama and storytelling that you can explore

in a film at the point and it is so exaggerated yeah it's exaggerated but it's also true yeah also makes sense a lot of my favorite movies use like exaggerated i guess kind of hyperbole to make commentary on real issues you know holy mountains and ecsticke in new york tons this movie, you know, where it's, it's like, it's using a more dramatic way of saying something than just like a flat out documentary might in order to kind of make a point. Yeah, like, okay. Right. It's entertainment.

Totally, it's very clear, like, what it's going for. And I like that about it too. Yeah. Whatever, Armand. I hope he finds a movie he likes one day. No, he likes tons of movies. They're just really bad. Does he like Gemini Man?

He likes Adam Sandler movies a lot. oh good maybe he'll like uncut gems no that's the one he won't like yeah probably liberal propaganda because he before made it liberal they're trying to teach his side i don't know yeah on rotten tomatoes you can like click on his profile and go through his fresh and rotten ratings and it is a trip it is certainly

it is certainly an interesting read it's like oh you like that one i was reading a lot of his stuff the other day you know it is it is a mind warp just what is happening I just am so confused by what he says. I have no idea what he's even getting at. Yeah. Yeah.

I think Roger Ebert called him a troll or something. I don't know. I heard that someone else said that. I didn't search it up for myself. Okay. A lot of people think he's a troll anyway. He might be the smartest of all time. Yeah.

He could be. We're all crazy. Yeah. He didn't like Gemini, man. So he's actually with you guys on that. Okay. I'm still a lone wolf on that one. Yeah.

Yeah, you're like that more than parasite, didn't you? Oh, yeah. It's my favorite film of the air. What do you mean? Gemini Man with Wool Smith. Did he give you back your channel yet? Yeah, yeah, I did talk to. I did get a chance to talk to Will after the filming of Gemini Man.

Yeah, I got it back. Which will? He might do a Wild West too. Oh, really? I talked to the younger Will. Oh, younger Will. Oh, okay. First Prince will.

I thought the old one might be grumpy. Yeah. Pre-Jaden. Pre-Jadden right now. He was on a Netflix show. Like the get-down. He's doing music. I think he's more focused on his music than he is acting, but he was also doing

voiceover for some Netflix anime. Really? Yeah. He's like one of the main characters. I forget what it's called. Yeah, he's found his own way. It's supposed to be pretty bad. It's better than Aladdin.

I wouldn't say he's found his own way, but he certainly had a lot of help. At least he's not in movies with his dad anymore. Like, fucking awful after Earth type movies. What are you talking about? After Earth was a masterpiece. Yeah, like Gemini Man was a masterpiece. After Earth is better, though. I don't know.

I mean. We're debating fucking two total disasters. Yeah. When we should be talking about parasite. Yeah. What was the deal with the rock? the rock the rock he gives him like this symbolic rock yeah the friend oh i think you're talking about the actor the rock oh yeah here's like when did dwayne johnson show up here's the actor the rock

he's a symbol of good fortune i mean yeah it was kind of like a checoves rock i guess checkov's rock and i mean like yeah they even said like when he when he received it he's like wow this is really metaphorical, right? So I think he said it was a literal. He said it is a metaphor. This is a metaphor. I think that it kind of plays into like the character's motivations in terms of like if you didn't have that kind of a setup and you didn't sort of make this seem significant

to that character, then it would probably be less believable that he would just like pick up this random rock and like bring it and try to. you know, use it as a weapon? I don't know. I don't know. I could watch it for a third time and see if I can read into a bit more on what if the rock is supposed to symbolizing it. Well, he says it's like it brings you good fortune, right?

Yeah. It's like, if you have this rock, it's good luck. You'll become very fortunate. And the whole goal, the whole kid is like he's trying to, his whole goal is to kind of become rich, you know? Like by the end of the movie he's learned absolutely nothing. He's like, yeah, dad, I'm going to become rich. I'm going to buy the house.

Ah, yeah. Even though he's literally been hitting over the head with the fucking thing. Yeah. The dude, like the basement guy hit him over the head with it. He still doesn't get it. Yeah. I don't know. It is a movie that I could watch a bunch of times for sure.

I'll certainly be buying it when it's out on Blu-ray in North America. Although Korea is Region A, so I could probably just buy it right now. It's very entertaining. So, yeah, I'll watch it again. Crowd Pleaser. If you haven't seen it already, please watch it. I don't know anybody that doesn't like this movie other than Armand White. And that's usually a good sign.

Like, if you make a movie in Armand White trashes it, then you know you've done something right. It's like a badge of honor. It's like getting booed at Cann. Do they do that? Yeah. Just boo a movie? Well, because, like, Ken is like this super prestigious film festival where, where all the big, like, big, like, foreign indie art house movies get premiered, right?

And so with that comes a lot of people that are watching the movies to kind of be a part of the festival experience. And with that, everybody there knows that, like, all these reporters and critics are going to be in the audience with them, and they're going to report on the crowd reactions. So they're, oh, yeah. Have you seen that clip of the... right there. Yeah, the whole crow and cast is there. Yeah. Have you seen the clip of the 10-minute standing ovation for once upon a time in Hollywood?

That was a can. That was like, at this point, it's just a competition. Because one reporter will say like, oh, yeah, there was a 20-minute standing ovation for this movie. The longest that has ever happened, it can. And everybody else is thinking, like, okay, if I like a movie and I really want to make Quentin Tarantino happy, I have to stand there and class. for longer than 20 minutes. And so it's this contest to see who can do the longest standing ovation, pretty much.

This could be a movie. This could be like a parasite type movie. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it can get to that point where it's so extreme. People are there for like an hour clapping. It's the natural buildup. It's been three hours.

We've got to start the next movie. Yep. Now we're so fast. 20 minutes is a long time. But I didn't understand like how long that would actually feel to clap for 20 minutes. You have to see that clip if you haven't. somebody posted to the sub subreddit it's awkward

it's terribly awkward and the cameraman's like way too close and everybody's really uncomfortable he just keeps getting closer to tarenting all right yeah I think we pretty much covered this movie unless

anybody else had anything more to say about it the lights somebody was saying that the lights he's doing the lights before it's kind of like a it's a little hint. Oh, like the... Oh, like before it's revealed that he's down there

doing the Morse code with the lights? He's doing like Morse code before. Yeah, for sure. That was pretty clever. I bet you could translate the whole movie like, do the Morse code. Maybe. And find what he's saying.

Totally. 100%. I imagine there's that level of detail. Well, I know that it's at least shown that, you know, the guy walks past it and he's like, oh, the lights always blah, blah, blah. Like, I don't remember if that happened

after or before. but perhaps they actually show up before. I don't know if you'll catch a full sentence because when we get the reveal that he's doing that with the lights theoretically, like what he says is that he just says thank you every time he hears his footsteps or something.

Thank you for letting me live in your basement without you knowing. I notice my lights doing it. You should check your home. There could be a secret bunker, which would be pretty cool. So you can make friends. You never know.

There's a lot of... I love to find the... It's a lot of... I love to find the man down there. What would you... What would you give Parasite out of 10? Or out of five? I'd give it a 4 out of 5.

Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think I'm with you, Ralph. I think I'd give it this time. You guys hate it. Yeah, we hate it. Four out of five. It's very good. What about you, Sir Dunkel?

These guys are Parasite haters. Don't listen to the... Don't listen to the Armin whites out there. I'm giving it. and five, five out of five. Mm-hmm. I'm giving this one a nine out of ten. It could move up to a ten.

I think it's closer to a ten than an eight, but... It's higher than our ratings, Alex. Yeah. Because we hated it. Oh, well. Yeah. You and Sam you, Lisa. Mm-hmm.

Exactly. Now I want to talk about an actual great film. Controversial one. Did you guys see this movie, performance? Did we? Oh, shit. I hope you'll do. Oh, boy.

So, performance is a movie. Spoilers. It's about, well, I guess it came out in 1970-something. It's directed by Nicholas Rogue. 70, yeah. And it stars McJagger and some other guy. And it's about, like, well, he's like a, at the beginning, he's like a criminal. He's like a gangster working for a guy.

He pisses off his boss. and they try to whack him or teach him a little lesson. He ends up killing one of the guys in escaping, trying to flee from the mob. He hides out in an apartment with McJagger, who is a struggling musician trying to find his creative voice again, and he's doing drugs with these two naked women. And then it goes crazy from there. How, that's when it goes crazy. Yeah, that's what it really goes crazy.

I love this movie. I think it's one of the most unique, crazy, fucked up movies I've ever seen. And I had no idea what it was about the first time I saw it. So I'm curious. I knew it would get a reaction. Yeah. So what do you guys think? Well, I think I watched the wrong film.

I watched Air Bud World Pup. How was that? I hear they're similar, though. That was good. That was pretty similar. Was it? Was McJagger in that? No, no, they couldn't get him

To reprise the roll Of Airbud Yeah I went into this one I knew I would hate it To the most Most I can hate something And I did hate it

As much as I thought I would Oh good Well I wanted to pick something Like really unique Especially for you, Donkey Like I didn't want to pick I didn't want to pick like The Run of the Mill mainstream movie

I wanted to pick something truly, like, revered and respected by the art community and out there. Yeah, like this. Is it really reviewed? It's considered one of the best films to come out of the United Kingdom. By Armand White. Of that century. One of the best British films of the century. It's a fairly accurate representation of the UK.

The dialogue is really bizarre. And I imagine that's like a UK thing. Yeah, they say things like that. The guy's name is chance. Courtney Geeseers also in their catchphrases and unique cadence of communication that they have. That was one thing I did like about the movie because for me, I didn't hate it actually. I might actually be leaning more towards Ralph on this one, which is weird because normally this is the kind of thing where it's just like frustrating after a while. Like I can, when it's like a real out there concept, normally my limit is about 30 minutes before I just get tired.

And I'm like, oh. But halfway through the movie, when McJagger shows up, I thought it really improved the entertainment value for me. It becomes like a different movie, almost. Yeah, but it was a consistent push and pull, though, of like, oh, that's a really cool idea. I really like the way they presented that. Oh, that really didn't work. Oh, now we're back to something kind of cool. And it was just like, I didn't even pay attention to the story.

Like, I couldn't. I even read the Wiki, like, after to, like, recap it. And I was like, okay. That happened? It's actually genuinely hard to understand what's happening for the first, like, third of the movie. Because of the editing, the editing is so, like, groundbreaking and bizarre. The music is so loud. The music is like, bano dado.

And there's, like, there's a judge talking about shit, and the music is just going fucking crazy. You can't hear any dialogue. Look up a crazy bust theme. That's what the soundtrack reminded is. That's, like, one of the most, like, defining. elements of it though is like that bizarre editing especially

at the beginning apparently was partly because they had to like recut the film or something and so like another editor stepped in and decided to compress a lot of the information because this was actually a movie from 1968

so it should be a 68 movie but then Warner Brothers was like too much sexuality too much violence and also Mick Jagger doesn't show up until halfway through the movie. And so they just didn't want to release it. And then Rogue and the other director were like, okay, well, we've got our own projects. So whatever, bye.

And so another editor stepped in to like recut the beginning of the movie. Yeah, but I think it actually works. Like I liked the beginning of the movie. I liked how that was presented. I felt like it was very intentionally chaotic and gave it like a interesting personality. Yeah, it gave it a really unique feel And then when he gets to Mc Jagger's house The editing style completely changes

And the tone and the like the pace of the movie Gets a lot slower And more like internal Like he's actually It's about the breaking down of this man And like him discovering himself It's very bizarre Like the shift the movie makes

There's a lot going on with like gender Like people in wigs and dressed as women Like there's a boy in the film who like just walks around and delivers them drinks like while they're hanging out naked taking a bath like he just doesn't care but even he's in a dress so it's like this weird thing we're about identity yeah hence the title we're like exactly performance you're like you don't know who's who who's doing what and who's really like even at the end of the movie mid jagger is like the one in the car being driven away not chas or chaz whose face turns into mcjagger but wasn't

Nick Jagger killed by Chaz. Depends on how you interpret it. Yeah, it's just insane. I love the backstory of the movie. Like at the end of the credits, it's like, Warner Bros made this movie. And I was like, oh shit, yeah, they did, didn't they?

Because they thought that they were going to get basically, like, Bohemian Rhapsody. They funded it based on that Beatles movie that came out in mid-60s. Is it the Yellow Summerrene or the Long Day's Night? I think it was a day's night. Hard day. Hard days night, sorry, yeah, yeah.

So for some reason, some execs, yeah, just funded this film and they barely interfered, apparently. They just let them do whatever the fuck they wanted. Until they showed them a cut of the film. Until they were like, it was so completely unsalvageable that they had, like, they tried to hide it for a few years, I think. I'm pretty sure it was, it finished development late 60s, around 68. and they were just like, fuck it, let's put it in the corner for a bit. But then, yeah,

it had to come out eventually. Yeah. And we got this. And at first it wasn't received well, you know, because it's very bizarre. But it's not an audience over time. And there was like, legit, the first time I saw this,

I was like, what the fuck am I watching? I didn't know what the hell was going on. I was like, who's who? It went from a crime movie to like this weird musical. There's even a musical number in it later on, which is great. Yeah, I love that this movie It doesn't it's just everything

It doesn't have a genre It just does whatever it wants Yeah, it's one of the Like first uses of Like synthesizer in a film Also Oh really interesting Yeah, that was like a really new thing

They rarely they rarely did use it It was quite obnoxious At points Yeah my roommate was like Yeah I'm not digging these sounds I did I enjoyed it. I like really weird kind of chaotic shit, so.

Yeah, that was more toward the beginning. Have you guys ever seen the movie exit through the gift shop? Yeah, I love it. I have it. I know it. Mr. Robot. Or what's his name? Mr. Brainwash.

He tells them he's making this movie and then he edits that fucking nightmare thing together. This is kind of the vibe I was getting from this movie. It's just insane. So insane. Like, eventually you can wrap your head around it. You're like, oh, this guy is in a little. this place now.

Now I can comprehend what's happening. Yeah. Hot take, I don't know. It seems like you guys disagree with me on this. I actually enjoyed the first section of the movie more than the second. Really? Well, I love the first section because it's like so unique. Amazara.

I enjoy more when it gets into the characters. Gangster intimidation and just like that combined with the presentation, like how it was shown. I really enjoyed that. I think I did enjoy that more too. That was, I could actually, that was actually, you know, it's like a gangster movie. Like, oh, he's doing gangster movie stuff. He's like burning this dude's car. He can like, like, shaves the dude.

They like actually shave someone's head. Yeah. Although later it does, it's more easier to understand. It's like, yeah, it does get weirder. This is the part where they drug his, was his drink or something with mushrooms? Yeah. Because they have a little mushroom garden. The two ladies have a mushroom garden that they grow all these mushrooms in and he has like this crazy drug trip where he goes back to his boss's office and Mc Jagger sings to him in his boss's chair.

I love that song. They really cleared. That really cleared stuff up for me. Oh, yeah. When he started doing drugs and it got even more ridiculous. Yeah. It kind of turned into like Holy Mountain Light for a bit. You know.

Holy Mountain Light. What do you mean by that? Not as extreme, but like, you know, Holy Mountain tackles like the concept of like identity through like druggy kind of ways. Sexuality. There's a lot of nudity in the movie though. Yeah, I think so. To this one. Yeah.

It's way more scatterbrain. It felt a bit like they were throwing whatever they could at the wall, really experimental, just seeing what they could get away with, basically. So, and that's why when it hits it, it is quite effective. And when it doesn't, it really is quite, quite. difficult sit-through at points. Mm-hmm. It is trying to be quite a few things at once. And in some ways, I feel like, you know, with, I guess even with the base concept of the

movie, there's a lot more that could be done with it. And I almost wish that certain aspects of the film were either more fleshed out or more extreme. But at the same time, I understand that that would probably come at the expense of its uniqueness. So. Mm-hmm. Did you notice this is the second movie in a row that had the quote, nothing is true, everything is permitted, the Assassin's Creed line.

Oh, yeah, it originated in Assassin's Creed. Yeah, 1970s Assassin's Creed. The dialogue, it was very strange. Is it supposed to be comedic? Because I was looking on the IMDB, and it reckons it's like a crime drama. and is it unintentionally funny? Because you have really bizarre dialogue. Like, yeah.

But like a lot of the humor just comes from the Cockney Ghee's stuff, I think. Just the weird way, just you phrase things when you have that accent and the whole English side of it. Like, there's that really weird scene where that woman asks, do you like my physique? And he's like, yeah, you're in good condition. It's like, what? What? I don't talk like that. Grabs are pectoral muscle.

Yeah. Like a close up on it. You don't say that to people. You're in good condition. Yeah. Yeah, that scene where he was like tripping balls on mushrooms. At first I was just like, what? Because it's like no different when he's tripping balls to how the dialogue normally is.

Or the editing. It's just as crazy. The editing is just crazy. It's very experimental out there. It takes a while to get used to. That's why I didn't dig the. the first 30 minutes as much as the last because after that point I was like

okay I'm kind of getting into just the frenetic just lack of cohesion going on now I'm just in it now I might as well just commit it's the editor's movie 100% the editor just in full control of the movie

yeah and he did a very unique job I would say the score and the music is like the other big draw to this film because it does have musicians in it and it's about musicians I think the whole thing is like a metaphor or an allegory for the the music industry like that whole crime angle

of kind of like taking someone morphing them into this image of what you want to be and then sending them out on these jobs and then like that's how I that's what I got from the movie anyway but like Randy Newman did music for this Jack I can't say his name Jack Nidzit Nick Shee what the fuck is that I can't say it's a goddamn name

it's a weird last name and then Mac Jagger did music for the film as well and his shit was really good Memo for Turner I love that song yeah I like that music that music video was probably my favorite part oh really? Yeah with you yeah even though it was just

complete it's just nonsense total nonsense why that's in there but it was awesome and the dude just like strips naked in the middle of the office he grabs the lamp and like just pushes it towards the camera and some creative like cool imagery in the movie uh huh

Did you guys like when she licks the guy's nostrils and then sticks her tongue in his mouth? Yeah, that was great. No, I don't like that. Yeah, I didn't like that. A lot of nipple stuff as well. Lots of nipples. Yeah, there were a lot of sexual stuff in this movie. There was like a shot that turned into a nipple. Mm-hmm.

There's this whole... Oh, yeah! Fucking like zoomed in, like, I had a zoomed into like a curtain and turned into one. Yeah. It was like some fucking, what the fuck was that? Everything is nipple. That was the true message. There are no consequences.

So there was clearly this identity thing between McJagger and Chaz. Like you don't know who was who, or they could be interchangeable. I felt the same way with the girls, too, because the girls also kind of looked like the guys. Like, the French girl had like the black hair and she had like pale skin like McJagger. And the girl kind of looked like Chaz. Did anyone get that? I wasn't thinking that. I can see what you mean, yeah.

Yeah, but like, that's too much logic to apply. But it's like these four versions of himself almost, like all intermingling. He's all like these four different elements of his ego. Like when the first scene where the gangster is like talking to Mick Jagger, it's like super cryptic like what they're saying, you know. It's like it's kind of like the scene in The Shining where he's talking to the bartenders. Like they get what they're talking. about but the audience doesn't really get it.

Well, do they ever say what they do, like as far as a crime organization? I think they just extort people. That's why I took it. He comes to, like, collect debts. Like, people will pay him money, and then he'll be like, oh, well, time to collect. But that whole element's very vague.

That's why I took it as, like, a music industry allegory, because that's not, it's not really about that. Yeah, because the whole, like, I can't even really say second act, but the middle of the movie, like the gangster stuff isn't. really that important at that point. Yeah.

But it's like lingering in the background. You know, it comes back. Yeah, it's kind of like in his like phone calls. Yeah. That's the whole reason he's hiding out there. Yeah. It's a good driving force for the story. I think that that element does bring a lot of good tension to a lot of the scenes in the

second half of the movie where it kind of comes back and revisits the whole gangster element. I think that there are a few points in the movie where it is pretty successful. what it tries to pull off. Why is Mick Jagger so bored that he just lets this, like, he knows he's a gangster, like a meeting. He's just like, yeah, we're just going to let him stay here, whatever.

He's a hippie. I guess because he's on drugs all the time. That's so be fun if we just let this guy be here. Yeah, why not? Free love. He's a juggler. It was the 70s. He was technically the 60s.

It was technically the 60s. Yeah. I do like. that this is another movie where the shots are very varied. Like, I didn't feel like much repeated in terms of framing. Like, there were certain shots that looked similar. In a bunch of the different scenes, one of the more common things that I noticed was

you get, like, an extremely uncomfortable close-up on someone's face, not even really showing their whole face, and then someone else in the background. Like, those were some interesting shots. And even within, like, the confines of, these small rooms that a lot of the film is shot in, you still get a lot of,

a very healthy variety of angles. I thought it was visually interesting for the most part. Yeah, totally agree with you. Do you like when they wrote poop on his wall? Yeah, that was great. Blood poop? In the blood, yeah. Why did they write poop on this wall and blood?

It was upside down. It was a comical color as well. Right red. Like that English thing? Oh yeah, we do that all the time. It's like a hazing thing. Oh, okay. Poop.

This is a true embarrassment. It's what the geese is doing in London. Like, I ain't got nothing to do with that. Yeah. It's one thing to, like, humiliate and, like, torture someone, but to write poop on their wall. That's the ultimate humiliation. It's too far. It means something very different to British people.

Although it was neat seeing Paddington Station from the 60s. Because I was there yesterday, so seeing the contrast of how it's changed was interesting to me. I'm more of a fan of Paddington, too. I don't know. I mean to watch that, actually. Very similar to this movie. That movie is awesome. Yeah, so I hear.

Very similar to this. I found the name of that composer I was looking for. Jack Nietzsche. That's how you say it. Okay. Because I always get shit in the comments for saying names wrong. So. That's the guy that I'm really angry.

it. He only did one of the many songs. I bet the McJagger music was the most blaring and loud. McChager was listening to all this music. He was just like plugging stuff in. He was just like playing with a big freaking amp at one point.

Yeah. He was learning how to use the synthesizer. It was a new thing. And he put it in the movie. Because it didn't really matter what you made. It would be a new sound. Mm-hmm. He was like a guy who kind of,

I liked the synthesizer. did too but he's a guy who escaped from the music industry almost and he's in this confined area to find his creative spark again so he's surrounded himself with drugs and women hoping that would work but it doesn't really so he's kind of in like the same position as chas where like both trapped here i enjoyed that element of it yeah overall really unique film very unique i love it i would actually probably watch this again sooner than I would, don't look now. I think it's more entertaining this movie.

Is that the one where the freaking that evil guy cuts his throat at the end? It was like a grandma. Spoilers. Yeah. A little person on. Sorry. Yeah, for a movie that came out 50 years ago. What did

What? Can you guys explain this part? At the end, he's like, all right, I'm going to I'm going to freaking shoot you now. He shoots Mick Jagger, the bullet goes into Mick Jagger's head. This is my favorite part. The bullet goes into his body and you see it like going through and then

a photo of a man materializes inside of his body. It's like a photograph of an old man and the bullet pierces through the photo and keeps going. It's like identity man. It's like who he is in his head versus who he is externally. It's like who did you really kill.

Okay. it's quite modern arty despite it being from the 70s it's got that like I saw it being compared to the pop art movement where it's almost like anti art in a way

but by doing that in a way like it makes it art is that that like an infuriating concept that does have a weird amount of credence because there is there is like stuff I would recommend watching the movie like I'm glad that I saw it and I'm pretty sure I'm more with Ralph

in terms of like my enjoyment It is a bit rebellious. Yeah, exactly. It feels they're just testing shit out. Like, let's just see what we can do. Like, why even restrict ourselves in any way? Fuck it. But more importantly, given the nature of the film,

that kind of rebellious nature of the characters and the genre that it's set in, like, I think that totally fits that experimental style. It doesn't feel just like thrown in. It's really entertaining to see where this story goes next because you just have no idea what the fuck is going to happen. Oh, yeah, I'm with you. That's what I got out of it. I give it a five out of five.

All right. What about you guys? It's pretentious in a way that a lot of art movies can be. But that is what makes it good, though, at the same time. Because it does show you something unique that you can't experience in other places. I think people do need to sort of push boundaries and be weird and different in this extreme way in order to, you know, experiment with the formula. and stop things from getting boring.

Because it will inspire people and people take what works about this movie and like the composition and all these weird little experimental things and build on it and make new and better stuff. And at the same time, I wouldn't judge anyone for hating the movie. Like I'm sure a lot of people listening and on the cast right now undoubtedly do. I hated it while I was watching it the first time. Like for the first half. Yeah, it can be unlikable and irritating.

I think it is worth watching. It's one of those. But I like it a lot more than some of the previous one of those type movies like, I don't know, Southland Tales or showgirls or something. I think it's much more interesting than those movies. And this is so much more innovative than those. Like, this is actually something different and fresh. Those are so, they think they're fresh, but they're just the same shit. Regurgitated.

I'll give this the lowest score possible. I did actually think this was kind of similar to Southland Tales But I actually really liked that movie Even though it's the worst shit ever It's kind of like one of those where you got it You should probably see it anyway Just to hate it And pimps don't commit suicide

There is no rock actor in this I guess Mick Jager is the rock in this Yeah this is worth seeing just If not at least just to make fun of it and get angry. What is your lowest rating possible? Where does your scale end? This would be a negative 700 out of five.

I'm very happy you watched it and got something out of it, Dunkie. Or Sir Dunkel, sorry. Thank you for the recommendation. No problem. I give this one a 7 out of 10. It's closer to an 8 than a 6. And even though not every moment worked for me, not everything hit.

I think that on a second watch, I would probably, I'd imagine being more comfortable with those aspects being able to anticipate them rather than it coming as a surprise. So we'll see. Totally. Something I noticed upon this watching, this feeling of it, a lot of mirrors in the movie. McJaggers introduced through a mirror, like lots of mirrors. I guess that whole. There's this zoom-in butt shut in the mirror.

Oh yeah, when she's injecting heroin into her butt, yeah. That character's so great, though. All she does is just do drugs and fuck around. It was vitamin B-12. Oh, okay. I thought it was heroin. Stupid me. It was like a really obvious one where they're like,

they had like a mirror like up to this face and like half of the mirrors, like the lady's face and the other half was just the dude's face. Oh, yeah. It was kind of in keeping with like, the identity thing. Yeah. All right. You know,

they're also fuckers in this movie. Yeah. There was a lot of shit on the screen. There was like the house, like so much material, so many fabric and like patterns on the screen. Yeah, a lot of colors. The setting improved it so much.

I think that time period is just really interesting, aesthetically even, and just the way people speak and everything is, that's always been interesting to me. It was like a huge fan. fan of like madmen and that whole you know that period. All right. Cool.

I'm glad you guys got something out of it. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Okay, let's move on to some questions. If you want to leave your own questions for the next episode, head over to Sir Donna Cast Reddit, where Ralph will leave a thread. The most upvoted question this week is one. You can choose to answer if you want because it is,

I feel like I have to read them because it is like the most upvoted one by far. So I'm going to read it, but you don't have to answer it. It's better be a good one. Zia the Goodfeller asks this. What's the fattest ass you've ever seen in a movie? Wow. And don't cheat with like Big Mama's House or something like that. Or more than that.

In Black Dynamite, when they start playing the song that I use in my reviews, like when they're like out walking in the park, Michael Jai White has a fat butt at that moment. I don't know if they like padded it. It looked like he was wearing a diaper or some shit. It was so weird. It might have been like a 70s aesthetic choice or something. I don't know what was up with his pants, but he had the fattest butt in that scene.

Somebody post that to the subreddit. I'm not making this up. He's thick in that scene. That's my answer. I'm trying to think. You don't keep a list? The answer is like animated movies. They always have the most voluptuous women.

Like Jessica Rabbit? How was like another minion? Oh, dude. That's a great cool. When the minion takes his butt out. Hmm. Like the hippo from Madagascar. Is that cheating?

Oh, he stole my... Gloria. Motto, no. Oh yeah, Motto, motto. Uh, sure, I'll go with that. Motto, that's my answer. If you need more time to think, I'll just edit it out. So, no pressure.

More time to think I mean we don't have to stay on this one For like a long time or anything Yeah I'm good It's weird how they kind of normalized it In animated movies Yeah it's just a comment thing Yeah I was thinking about that earlier actually

Is it is it just to like entertain Like the bored dads And have to take their kids to it Like they make Mrs. Incredible Like really sexy for some reason Yeah she's got really thin waist A lot of female animated characters Thin Waste big butt

Just a lot of... I don't know. Maybe the animators are just... Just freaking weird, corny guys. Yeah, that would explain it. That would really explain a lot. Yeah.

That's probably true. Maybe we're all just weird, corny guys, and we all just want to watch and draw those things all the time. Oh, yeah, that's actually a good one. Well, no, yeah, there was that shot where, like, they're on the court. You fucking hit some of his butt. Yeah, they, yeah, there's a lot of butt stuff in Space Jam. I think his butt takes the ball and slam dunks it.

Yeah. That's a common, like, punchline in animation. Like, we already mentioned the minions and loads of those bad animation. Specifically, space jam. Yeah, and that over the hedge, the turtle in that movie, you get to see his ass. Oh. Pull what that's worth. I never saw it.

You're not missing out on anything. Let's move on. Fuck that question. Okay, let's do one specifically for Sir. Dunkles? Big C-baller has this to ask. For Dunkie, do you ever get annoyed with how excessive your fans

like to quote to you, or do you always think it's funny? Well, okay, maybe it's not always fun. Maybe, you know, sometimes it's too, taken too far out of the context. But I don't really care that much either. Yeah. Do you have an example?

You're very quotable, though. Yeah, the big one's the NAC thing, right? Oh, well, Mac, NAC, yeah. It's just a kind of a... It's a game that brings a lot of emotions out of people. One that I've seen fairly frequently since the video is, you're nitpicking and biased, I win by buy. That's a common post, especially in movie-related forums and our subreddits.

Whenever somebody disagrees with something, it's a pretty entertaining way to finish off a conversation and end it. Yeah, I don't mind that. Yeah, that's pretty much appropriate anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Do you ever get people that, like, meet you and then tell you to do a voice, to, like, say one of your lines and, like, say the thing? Yeah.

Yeah. I get people that tell me to frown. It's kind of awkward, but I try to do it. Yeah, I don't mind it. They always want me to say spaghetti and meatballs. But that's not, I didn't even make that. That's not even mine. I think that was.

one's answered. Let's do one from the dabbing rats. Dabbing rats? I'm sorry, it's Reddit. I'm sorry, it's Reddit. Skip this. Vote of the year. That's what I have to say.

But they ask anyway this. Which is easier for you? Making a review of a movie you consider good or of one you consider bad. What do you enjoy doing more? And let's extend that to game.

as well for Sir Doink a lot or whatever we're calling it. I think it's more fun to do. It's more satisfying to do one on ones you like. It's probably a lot easier and more entertaining to do one on you hate, one you hate, but it's much hard to do. Yeah, especially with like a game,

because games tend to be a lot longer than a two-hour movie, you know. If you'd like really dislike Death Stranding, for example. Yeah. Yeah, and then people say you're playing it wrong if you didn't like it. Yeah. Yeah, that was like a 50-hour game. Yeah. There's like seven minutes of footage on the video.

Yeah. They have no idea what I was playing. Did you just record the entire time? So you'd have all of that footage. Yeah, just record the whole game. I don't think it's any easier or harder one way or the other. It really depends on how passionate I am about the movie in either direction. So something like my Synecichy, New York review,

is going to be very thorough and in depth. And same with the old boy review. You know, like those are two extremes. Whereas there's tons of movies that I really enjoy, but maybe it's in theaters. I don't really want to spoil it and I don't want to say too much about it. Or what I have to say isn't really so thorough and in depth that I'm going to create like a big analysis about it.

And in the same way, you know, there's bad movies where, you know, it's like, oh, it just didn't click. You know, it's just below the bar. And I don't really have all these huge criticism. against it I just didn't like it so it really just depends on how passionate I am in either direction I wouldn't say that one is easier or harder it's just a matter of how much effort I decide to put into it I kind of approach them differently like the good ones I tend to talk about more casually so I have more fun with them and they're like better for your soul I

think too what's soul something you like oh we're all soulless monsters now does he take that too yeah Pixar yeah oh Pixar oh yeah because they're making soul right? What do you know? It all comes back. Bad movies I'm a little more in depth with I do not have fun watching them or writing the notes, but the editing

is fun. Like once I have my thoughts written down and recorded that's when it gets fun. You get to be more comedic with it too. Then you can just destroy the movie or like you scroll through it and you're like oh my god, this is fucking awful. That's the only thing that makes it bearable. Yeah, like let me zoom in on this thing.

That was fucking awful. Yeah, because otherwise you lament like God, I've seen show dogs four times. It's just a waste of time. The ones you pick and I could say, all right, it was for work.

I can't deal with those. You go out of your way to have miserable experiences. I'm like addicted to it though. Yeah, at least you enjoy it, I watched a Christmas corgi the other day.

Christmas corgi? I thought it was the Queens Corgi. Is there a Christmas one now? Is it the same? It's not animated. It's like a live action kind of hallmarky. The Christmas Prince?

Yeah, I only watched it because I have a corgi as well, so I had my point of reference. He enjoyed it. He enjoyed it. He's a darned myself. I feel like depending on the fan base of a film, too, if you're doing a negative review, will influence just how in depth you feel you have to be. Because at some point, if you're just preaching to the choir, you might not want to put in the effort of making this whole gigantic case against something.

But if you're trying to persuade someone, not necessarily change their mind, but at least let them understand where you're coming from and that you're not just nitpicking and biased, then you might want to have more substantial claims and try to back them up better too. Yeah, like the Game of Thrones one, I was way more in depth than like the Aladdin one

because everyone already hates Aladdin. And it's more about like mocking Disney. and making fun of them because like tear them down a peg than actually like analyzing why it's a bad movie whereas Game of Thrones there's a lot I think to dissect there that no one had done at that point so

yeah it is different you're saying you didn't like Game of Thrones did you? Yeah it's great the end of my wife we're watching oh cool did he notice the the old right metaphor in it that was a metaphor

whatever whatever the fuck he says. He said, ah, yes, this scene was very man of steel-like. There was a lot of man-of-steel-like stuff in that season. I like a review that starts a sentence with, ah, yes. It's a very Armand White review. I bet he's a nice guy. We can't make fun of this.

Based on what? If you want to come on. Armand, come on, yeah. I've seen him people do interviews with him, and he's like, He's super tricking. He's like a really smart guy when you talk to him. He's just talking about movies, like referencing these obscure movies nobody's ever seen. Yeah.

That's like a superpower. Oh, yeah. Because then you get to say that nobody else knows what they're talking about. If you can just name some movies that people haven't seen, you're like, I'm the real expert. You're not a true cinephile. He is. They're like, yeah, this is a great Joker. This is the great movie with The Joker.

He's like, ah, you'll never remember the original Joker from 1937. Yeah. You have a question here that I think is interesting. From Motionless Upon the Air. Do you guys have any TV commercials or online ads that particularly get under your skin or that you just find awfully made? I've got one if you guys want to think. Before the show started, we were talking a bit about the Adobe, like, software,

Adobe Premiere Photoshop. I've seen a few adverts. for that package where they they choose to advertise it to the well the Reddit crowd basically by like hey fellow memers do you want to like put a meme face on your friends like that kind of stuff like do you remember like what was that game was it league of legends that had that weird there's a bunch like meme skin yeah there are loads of examples of that kind of any time they try and do it because it's always so late to the party as well because like that memes memes change so quickly and it's like faster and faster. Yeah, and commercials are very overproduced. It takes a long time. By the time they're finished.

It's pretty much. Yeah, especially if like a game, like designer or like production company is designing a game or like a DLC based around like a meme, like that takes time. So by the time they finish working on it, it's already so out of date that it's nothing but embarrassing. Yeah. Like the brilliance of South Park, the reason they're so current is because the animation is terrible. they make it in like four days basically yeah

I wouldn't say I wouldn't even say it's terrible animation I would say compared to Miyazaki it's terrible animation but it's intentionally very simple animation so that it's quick to do yeah it's a good system because that's not the point

the point is the writing and the comedy not the animation every time I go to the states I turn on the TV in the hotel and I'm just amazed by how how terrible all these commercials are like Canadian commercials are bad too

but as soon as I go to the States it's like nothing but lawyers and prescription medication and it's like the prescription medication is like listing all these side effects and then the lawyers are like have have you been hurt by this prescription medication you can have a claim and it's just this like self-serving symbiotic relationship

almost and then there's like these these like I don't know if this counts I was watching this like to evangelist, like, preacher that was trying to convince people to give him like $5,000 saying that it was like, it would be planting a seed for Jesus and it would grow

and if you, like, literally just marketing himself towards people that are already down on their luck. Like, this is their last chance. These like poor uneducated Americans that are like going to be persuaded by this man like, oh, I could really use the money right now. I'm going to give them

all my savings. That's disgusting. There was one that I saw not too long ago, because I watch a lot of old people TV whenever I'm watching cable. The only reason I have cable is so I can do my Oscars commentary. Is there any other option? Oh yeah, exactly. There's nothing else on television at this point. So I'll watch like Judge Judy or like the Price is Right or something. And at a certain point, there was a there was like a programming thing that said Larry King's special report. And it was this whole block, but it was like a paid advertising block.

So it wasn't actual Larry King Live or whatever it's called. It was literally listed as Larry King's Special Report. And it was a whole setup where they were pretending as if it was basically his show, but he was just selling this fish

oil, saying like that these fish oil capsules have so much. Is this like an infomercial three o'clock in the morning? You can find this shit on YouTube. It's disgusting. And then I searched it up on YouTube. And I found out that there are several of the Larry King special report things advertising all these different products and the entire point is just to trick old people into thinking that he's actually endorsing these things legitimately and that it's not like a paid block and it's disgusting it's literally it literally exists to prey on old people that are already like kind of dumb doesn't he like doesn't he interview people yeah like interviewing like a social wheel container it's like they had this setup that it wasn't at his studio was like just at a table and some kitchen set or something, but he was like interviewing them on like, oh, so these are the best

fish oil? Yeah, they actually have more of the fish oil in it than other fish oil pills. And so if you're old and you have bad joints, wink, wink, then you should probably get these or else you're going to die right away. So it's disgusting. But yeah, I could go on about bad commercials for forever. I think all of them are fucking awful. And I guess just to finish my point, it's more often than not that I look at an ad campaign and all I'm thinking is like some advertising executive got paid so much money to come up with this. Give me money. Just hire me. I'll make a good ad campaign. I can make something that'll stick, right? But they won't let you. Of course they will. You'll say that and then they'll put a thousand like precautions on you. Like you can't do this. You can't do this. But then you look at like

the most successful ad campaigns where they just like gave Tim and Eric free reign to do whatever they wanted and then you got the old spice commercials, which was a huge success, right? Yeah. You actually let creative people do what they want. Those are the successful ones. That's not how lawyers or PR people think because they're worried about being sued and America, yeah, America sucks that way. Oh yeah, you can sue anybody.

It's like a part of the culture. Yeah. In other countries, if your lawsuit is found to be frivolous, you have to pay the other person's legal fees, but that's not a thing in America. So everybody just sues left and right. which is why they advertise lawyers between every single commercial It keeps the economy going

You're figuring it out Yep Have you been con by Larry King Call this number We'll get a lawyer right to your house All right, what about you guys? I kind of rambled for a bit Disney movies

I'd count those as commercials Which ones? They're fucking commercials for the brand That's all they are That's what Armand White said about Toy Story, okay? Oh, yeah? Which one?

The fourth one? All of them. Oh. Or maybe the later installments. Only those were a commercial. That is kind of how I feel about like these live action Disney remakes. They are like these just ads, basically for the brand and for like whatever the movie's about.

Like Aladdin or whatever. Keep Aladdin fresh in people's minds. It doesn't even actually matter what the movie is or what it's about or if it's good. Did you see all those, all the merchandise for the Lion King remake where it wasn't the exact same design as the animated version

but they managed to change the design just enough to be like appealing to children so they made it more animated and I'm like that's fucking cheating if you're gonna make a movie where you're claiming like no it has to be ultra realistic and you can't just go back on that and all your merchandise is like oh well they're kind of cartoony now

fuck you then it's just a real line like a real lion. He almost to own like a real fucking parrot. It's not cute. You don't like that. I'm trying to, I don't know. I can't think of a good one. A really good commercial.

I think one of my favorite was Hogan. Hulk Hogan had a grill. He had like a big infomercial where he's making stuff on the grill. It's like one of those portable grills? Yeah, like a George Foreman. Yeah. But it's Hulk Hogan grill. There's some good ads too.

Hulk Hogan. Oh, Billy Maze, yeah. Flexi. guy. Flexy. I don't have TV, so I don't ever see these anymore. The slap shot guy?

What about, like, YouTube bads then? Has anybody ever endorsed a VPN, and it got really under your skin? Was it Raid Shadow Legends? That's the one. I opened my email one day, and I just had 400 emails about Raid. Better help? Yeah, I got a lot from Raid.

They're awful. Stop emailing me, Raid, if you're listening to this. They're listening. What I do like is there's like a uniformity to every like food infomercial. Like they all, they all will do the same thing. They're like, God, this is for this. This Hogan grill is for making a burger. But also we can cut a pineapple in half and cook a pineapple in here now.

And it also fixes your car. There's a formula that's like very cozy. They have this whole block of advertising space. They're going to list every single potential possible way you could use the product. Like Flex sale, he's like, you can dip your tools in it, and then you'll have a comfortable no-slip grip. It's like, okay, really? All right, I guess you could technically do that. Like, who's watching that?

Like, oh, I can finally add a plastic grip to my wooden hammer. I got splinters all the time, but never again. Oh, the classic one is that knife. he would throw the pineapple up in the air and slice it in half. Oh, yeah. What was it? The miracle blade or something. Fruit Ninja.

They did that in the commercial. They threw the fruit up in the air and cut it. He just kept doing that. That was his big trick. He's like, ah, it's a great knife. Yeah, throws them pineapple up fucking slices in half. Kept doing that like a hundred times. I got to see that one.

I actually have one of those products in my kitchen. Like a knife it is, but the gimmick is that. it can supposedly cut through anything. It's one of those. If you want to cut through like a piece of sheet metal, use this knife. They always take out like a muffler

and start cutting through it and they're like, yeah, look at it. This is terrible. This is completely ruined now, but less your money. You got to dispose of a body. This is the knife. Hogan, bring in the corpse.

One more question? Yeah, let's end on this one. From Pirate Disco King, YT. For everyone, what is the most memorable encounter or experience you've had with a stranger in an online game? Oh, man. I've got one if you guys want to think. Okay. So I was like obsessed with the Xbox 360 game, Halo Wars for a long time.

Oh, really? I'd play it online with one of my friends. And one time we were just casually playing away. And I get a message from someone on my, like, opposing team saying, quit now or I'll freeze your Xbox Oh shit And I was like No forget about it

He's bluffing And then the next minute Like my teammate He just disappears off Xbox Life And I was like The fear I felt in that moment Like he's gonna red ring my Xbox This is the most fucked up thing I've ever seen

He actually works for Microsoft Yeah But we wound up befriending him And we found out that He bought like a, what do they call it, like a J-tagged Xbox off eBay, so he can go around freezing people's Xbox. Yeah, I couldn't believe it. And eventually it got, he threatened like one of my other friends that he was going to freeze his Xbox. So we all blocked him and like hid.

That's so funny. Yeah, that's a great memory of mine. Be careful out there, kids. Yeah. Yeah, hackers are scary. Yeah, the early, uh, the early days of online gaming was pretty great. I remember playing StarCraft.

And there was this conversation. I lived in like Edmonton, Alberta, and then these other people were like talking about like, oh yeah, we're from Winnipeg. And I said me too, but I was answering to a previous question. But I was so young at the time. I didn't like, I didn't just think like,

oh yeah, I'm going to correct myself. and just say like oh actually i meant me too to this other thing and so then then they were like oh what part of winnipeg do you live in i was like uh south and then i just got scared and quit because i was so embarrassed and it's haunted my memories ever since of just this like awkward moment that literally meant nothing really i mean it was nothing it's just one of those like dumb sort of like oops a little bit of cringe i guess i'm going to think about that at night for no reason. And then I guess on top of that, I installed VR chat yesterday, and I had some pretty, pretty interesting memorable moments in that. Yeah. Without going too into detail.

There was some weird stuff going on in some of the private rooms. But, yeah, you guys, you guys give your answers. I think second life is a good one. All the true characters are still playing second life. Yeah. I was trying to make a funny video with that with Leah. And it's like, it's innavigatable. It's so, like, unintuitive.

Second Life is so old. It's so hard to, like, find what you're supposed to do, how to get to the funny stuff. But there was just, like, this woman, she was just talking. She was just talking to no one in a different language. And there was a guy there listening to her and going, yeah, yeah, shut up. And this was going on for, like, an hour. And I don't think the woman could even hear him. She was just rambling on and on

And the guy was just mad He was just standing next to her Yelling and saying Okay, okay, shut up Okay, shut up That's pretty good Yeah It was like a nightmare

It was like walking into a nightmare Some many classic ones though Yeah I feel like I've had a lot of Video game experiences that are fun I don't know I can't really think of one I played Minecraft a lot When I was like 13

Nice Yeah And I was a griefer at the time I enjoy creasing. So it's one of those old, you know, you go to the server and you're like, oh, I'm from Planet Minecraft. I want to review your server. Give me your admin.

And then they did. And I like fucking lava blocked everything. Wow. Like I turned everything. You were like the era. Yeah. Actually, yeah. I was actually awful.

That's why I played video games for just to be evil like when I was younger. Like I played jailbreak and I was like the warden. I was like the worst warden ever. I was just, I would kill every prisoner. for no reason. I was just really strict. I was just an asshole. Yeah, just because I could. It was like a total power trip.

Yeah. It's like a 13 year old finally. It's like, yes, I have power over people. I could destroy an entire server. That's nice. You know Red Dead Online or like GT online? That's all it devolves into. It's just like people like tying you up and like throwing you off a cliff and firing the missiles at you.

Except I'm not that good at those games anymore. Like when you're 13, you have so much time to kill. that you can get that good to where you can destroy other people. But I'm just like logging on to Red Dead after work. And it's like, these people just destroy me because I don't have a chance. Yeah, exactly. It's very sad. I can't get back to that.

I was so much better at video games when I had nothing else to do. Yeah, it's really sad. No responsibilities. Yeah, that person is just way better at the game than I am. My gaming channel is not my main gig. I can only play once a week. We're not all like donkey. We can make the big bucks playing video games.

You've mastered Minecraft You could defend against 13 Eurograph probably Yeah Well they have all kinds of protections I would just choose not to make him the airman Yeah You wouldn't be stupid enough to do it

They kind of deserved it honestly You taught him a valuable lesson They'll never trust anyone ever again Good They shouldn't I was in the Halo Reach beta When that was a thing And me and my friend

Would join a team game and then trap one of our teammates in a corner just like blocking them in and then they would have to kill us and then after they killed us we would boot them from the game because they betrayed us that was a really dick thing to do but it was I mean it was it was like at the end of the beta I was like oh whatever what are you gonna do ban me yeah yeah so I think the new the new call of duty actually brought back a good feature or if you kill somebody you can hear the other team. If you kill somebody on the other team, you can briefly hear their voice chat for a while.

So you just shoot them and go, fucking stupid. That's pretty good. That's great. That's pretty satisfying. I'm surprised. People don't use game chat in the same way they used to. I remember in the 360 year, like, everyone was just, you know, grieving each other and like calling each other, you know, rude words and whatnot.

Yeah, I think that's why. I think they were just afraid. They were fascinated by it. then. Now it's normal. The wild west of the internet. Some people still do use it though. Yeah.

Like a good second life game. Second life. I should check that one out. Totally. All right. Thank you for all your questions. Everybody. I believe we have a recommendation for the film for next episode.

And it is Alex because I sniped his recommendation before. So it goes back to him before it gets. back to me again. Yeah. So I'm going to be a bit of a crowd pleaser for the fans for this one. If you remember earlier in performance, there was a character who slicked his hair back with like red blood or whatever the fuck and you put the sunglasses on and looked a bit like a Smith agent from the Matrix trilogy,

which is my recommendation for next episode. Yeah. The trilogy. The trilogy, yeah, if that's okay. Very cool. No, that's good. Yeah? I think you'll have enough time to watch that. Totally, I'll have enough time.

But there's like the animated stuff too. I want to include that. I want to include that. You guys haven't seen the anime. I haven't seen any of that. And you guys have to do the Matrix Online MMO. Yeah, I was going to say,

I want to play that game. And there's another one that came out on Xbox that apparently is like broken. You can't get past the second level because the door is open. But they filmed like actual scenes, which is funny. I played that a long time ago. For an unplayed a game.

Yeah, I'm not. I've played it once 10 years ago, but... There's also an alternate ending in the Path of Neo game. Oh, yeah? Oh, I'll play that one, too. Yeah, never played that one. Path of Neo. So, yeah, the three Matrix movies and the Animatrix is what we're covering.

Cool. And it's the 20th anniversary of the Matrix. They're remaking it. Are they? I think it's like a... It's a sequel, isn't it? Yeah, I think it's like Matrix 4. It'll be the same movie again.

It'll be a soft reboot with Keanu Reeves. Maybe the Force Awakens of the Matrix means. Exactly. It'll be the same thing. I saw that new Terminator movie. It's the same shit. Soft reboot except Arnold was in it and Sarah Connor was in it. Yeah.

And you loved it. Is it going to be the Oachowski's? One of them signed on, apparently. If they're in control at all, it's going to be the most insane bullshit possible. Yeah. Jupiter ascending was hilarious. So if it's anything like that, I'll enjoy it. I do enjoy that.

have a lot of creative freedom with their stuff. Like Cloud Atlas, say whatever you want about it. It does feel like an ambitious, like vision. Uh-huh. Like, it's not like this uninspired dribble, like Terminator or Star Wars. They're not going to do a reboot. I hope they don't. They do something really different with it, I'd hope.

Yeah, who knows? I'll watch it. It would do like a Star Trek where you went into an alternate timeline or something. They go into the Path of Neo timeline. It's like Xbox graphics. They go to the M. What is this? All right.

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Yeah, thanks for coming on. It was fun. Perfect. Bye-bye. Bye That's it, bye Do you want to answer Anything else or should we say goodbye?

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