Sardonicast - Sardonicast 94: The Green Knight, Your Name.

Episode Date: September 8, 2021

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Three, two, one. F it. We're doing it live, but it's not live. This is pre-recorded. This is Sardonicas. I'm Adam from your movie sex. That was a quote from Sir Bill O'Reilly. Bolli, I believe he's knighted.

Yeah, classic. Disgraced. I was gonna, you know, I'm totally fine saying the F word, but YouTube doesn't like it within the first 30 seconds for some reason or else it puts you into this category of like not acceptable for ads. So sorry if everybody felt like a baby for a second, But YouTube wants you to be babies, so who else is here? I'm Ralph, the movie maker, with Fox News.

Oh. And I'm Alex M.I.G. Yeah, let's do it, record it, guys. Yeah, no Fox News. I watched, like, a documentary. I was on Roger Ailes. Okay. And, like, it's about, like, how he's, like, a crazy person.

You know, he's, Roger Ails is the guy who found in Fox News. It's about, like, how he, like, carried a gun in Central Park, got arrested for it. Like, people harassed. Like, it's like, wow. Okay, so this is a guy who started this shit. That makes sense. Oh, cool. You know.

American television. Oh, it was on topic. Yep. This is a week later. How's your brovid doing, Alex? My brovid is long-govid. Oh, great. I've been fine for like ages now.

Awesome. No, it's what I was saying last episode. My recovery time was real quick. It was just then isolating for a safe amount of time and everything. That's great. Yeah, I feel fine now. I hope you don't get it again. Well, touch wood, I guess.

Or if you do, it's even better. And if you get it enough times, it'll give you strength. It'll just keep going passing. Or at least there'll be some humor to it. The guy's had it three times. Yeah. At some point, it gives you superpowers. If you get it four times.

Yeah, I've been back from Vegas for about a week. What's funny is the person I went with, one of them, had a cold. And we knew it was a cold because he tested. negative before the trip and during the trip and after the trip. And I actually caught that cold. And I only had symptoms for like a couple days. And I tested myself regardless anyway because I wanted to make sure that it's not brovid. And yeah, I tested negative.

It's kind of funny that I caught a cold. That's part of what makes it so complicated though, isn't it? It's trying to distinguish because the symptoms are the same. I think the telling indicator is just like fever. Like if you have a fever and like loss of taste and smell. Like those are the two. Yeah, the taste thing is pretty distinct. Yeah.

So we all saw the Green Knight directed by David Lowry, the acclaimed director of Pete's Dragon, but also. Ghost Story. Ghost Story. I love the ghost story, actually. I'd watch that again. Do you like it better than this? Oh, of course.

I do. But I think you like this a bit better than me, Ralph, from what I've seen. your rating so yeah because I did not like ghost story that's like one I'm in more controversial okay cool I just think it's kind of slow this this I love interesting night's much more up my alley I love this movie I thought it was interesting that you use the word slow for it too because I would say that for the green night oh yeah yeah well there's no scene of like the green night eating a pie like in a kitchen yeah but I mean in terms of like purpose of like a ghost story I feel like I feel like it was a bit more like

experimental and like non-traditional storytelling sort of thing, whereas the Green Knight is kind of packaged as a traditional, like, adventure story, you know? And so, like, the slowness. And I think I wouldn't mind the slowness as much for the Green Knight if I was attached to the characters, which I just wasn't. So that probably didn't help. Sure. Okay.

I love, like, the uniqueness of the director's, like, style. I think in both of those movies. Yeah, very nice looking. And, you know, Green Knight, it really made me feel like I was watching kind of of a fairy tale or like one of those fables or and I really felt like that the whole movie I felt like I was watching a fairy tale I think that's I think that's really what we like that's what gravitated I kind of felt that way watching like a ghost story you know it was like kind of like a fable kind of movie you know sure I get that too how much do you guys know about the whole

sort of Camelot lore in these characters zero none not really yeah I'm kind of you guys Right, Merlin. Mm-hmm. Because it's based off the, you know, the poem written by Anonymous. It's kind of just been shared through time. It's one of those timeless myths. Anonymous was hacking poems in the past? Yeah. It's a idea. It goes deep, man.

The conspiracy never runs with us. I didn't know they had 4chan and King Arthur. Yeah. They're hacking. Yeah, I'm kind of a little bit in between you guys where I was very impressed. with the visual presentation of the movie in that side of it, and it seemed very meticulous, and just the intent of everything was there.

But I kept finding my mind wandering at certain points, despite what I was seeing was so impressive. I was struggling to connect with certain beats of it, despite how much I was enjoying certain sequences, certain scenes. And the basic premise, I do enjoy quite a lot, this Green Knight character and what he represents

and what it forces the main character to go through, is a fun kind of mystery adventure journey to go on but at the end of it I got to say I'm still I'm still trying to break it down and figure out what the the overall message was I know right to get into I do have my yeah it's it's very dense in terms of what it's giving you um visually um but without a lot of explanation as to what a lot of it means there's a lot to interpret I suppose and it does take different directions from sort of the original poem and certain messages that come from that. I made an effort to try and read this original story and try and compare the beats, but this whole Camelot law thing, it goes so deep, it's really difficult to know, like, where,

what it's like trying to deconstruct and what themes it's precisely trying to explore. So my overall enjoyment was fairly high. I'm just kind of still trying to break down what it means to me and where it lies in that regard. Yeah, I'm kind of with you with the characters. There is it's kind of more esotericous about like the, well, my big takeaway from it was this whole idea that the Green Knight is this unavoidable oblivion, this mother nature,

like life and decay. idea that's set a challenge in front of him and he spends most of the movie kind of half addressing it half running away and at the end it's him finally coming to terms with his own doom sort of thing with the yeah the final confrontation with the night but his own mortality zone yeah spoiler alert everybody we're doing spoiler oh sorry yeah yeah i don't know how to talk about this without spoilers sure we didn't really say much in my review i didn't really leave yeah i didn't say much spoilers in my review when I posted it. It's definitely themes of honor.

It's definitely about honor and your, you're, you know, your status and wanting to kind of put your place in the world, like make your mark in history, right? And he's like royalty. He wants to prove himself. Right. Yeah. And how all that's kind of just a sham. It's just a farce, really.

And I think that's kind of what he learns on his journey. Yeah. Each one of the characters he meets, like, brings out something different from him. And as to the kind of adventure aspect of it, like, when he meets the guy. And they show him that he's not really a brave knight at all. He's just like, he's really just like a boy, you know. Yeah, he doesn't really know what he's going up against. And he's facing his own death, really.

Like, he's going to die. The movie doesn't make any, you know, the blow that he put on the green night is going to be returned in that same way. There's no, like, the movie doesn't shy away. from that and I don't know maybe it's about like we're all going to die and we're hurtling toward our deaths and so it's trying to yeah exactly make make our place in the world yeah find some kind of coming to peace with it do something important yeah it's definitely something along those lines I've only seen the movie once yeah but there's definitely something going on there it's not like it's totally up in the air for me like

it's definitely about honor it's definitely about this character who thinks he's supposed to do something honorable and in the over the course of this movie he learns like he's just he's a man he's a man he's You know, he comes in a rag in a really pathetic scene. I love this movie, too, because it was very challenging, and it had scenes like that where, like, Dev Patel would come in a rag, and that's not something to get out of a free guy or something. This is a big summer movie, and it's got, like, challenging themes, and it's grotesque

and it's violent, and it's about, like, sex, and it's gross at times. You know, there's a lot going on in this film. makes it very unique, especially for like when it came out. Around the time of jungle book or whatever the fuck. Yeah. I think that's 824 too. Like 824. Yeah.

They make great stuff. Yeah. I would like to experience what they're going for thematically in a different story or there's one where I cared about the characters, you know? Because like there's a lot of icing for me, but no cake. I'm struggling to find something that like, really pulls me in that really connects me to the narrative taking place. And even if you want to make something that's like really non-traditional in terms of a

narrative, like a ghost story is an example of that. My favorite movie, the Holy Mountains, an example of that, right? I just didn't feel like what I was getting out of the movie was all was was so significant to make me want to return to it and figure out more about it. Because this is kind of a multiple watch movie. and my favorite films are multiple watch movies, but there has to be something on that first watch to make me want to see it again a second time,

not just the feeling of not fully understanding it. That alone doesn't really bring me back. And it looked beautiful. I love the look of the movie. It's incredibly well shot. Like just very, very perfect-looking film for the most part. It's stunning. The music I particularly love too.

It fit the tone of every scene. It was just so appropriate for what it was going for. And yeah, even the pacing, you know, I found it slow, but I could handle that kind of pacing in a movie that gripped me more. But this just, I didn't like any of the characters. I didn't relate with any of the characters. I didn't find any purpose in any of the characters or the story it was telling, really. And I understand that like every single scene is just like, oh, a new character shows up. And it's what he gets out of that experience.

But I didn't get anything out of that experience. And every time a character showed up and left, I was like, oh, well, that was kind of fucking... I didn't get anything out of it. I just, I didn't see the point. And so... I think the adventure aspect keeps you going through it a lot. I didn't get much of an adventure out of it. That's the problem.

Is it kind of packages itself that way? And I was really hoping for something more. And I understand this is A24. And this isn't like a gigantic budget film. It's a very, I think a medium budget film. What is the budget on this? Which is good. Yeah, let's see.

I don't know, but it looked like I wasn't thinking about the budget while watching it, which is a good sign. I kind of, okay, it was $15 million. So that's a good, good, small itch, but not really small. Yeah, modest, modest budget. I guess the Green Knight cost some money. I didn't even watch the trailers for this. And still, I kind of expected a bit more of like, not quite Lord of the Rings or anything, you know, but a bit more. substantive and less

I felt like it was just like empty for so much of it yeah I don't know I thought there was a lot of substance there and there's a lot of audience people who like agree with what you're saying yeah a lot of people thought the movie was really dull or they were expecting something more but yeah it's not really that kind of adventure movie it's not really an action movie you don't get you don't get any of that shit like aside from the is it the Christmas game yeah you don't really

that's the only bit of action really yeah I see why people are pissed off in the yeah second fake like death dream sequence which is cool. I don't know. When your promotional material is like the selling point is you're like Dev Patel has a sword. Right?

You're going to expect like that's a 24 gun. Yeah, I know they always mark their movies. They always do that. Always. They try to market like these art films to Normies and then the Normies don't like them.

I don't want to say like that. But it's like, oh, look at this action movie. This isn't an action movie. It's a movie about this guy who comes in a rag Look at this non-challenging horror film that you've seen before.

Right, it was like this, right, it was like more of a drama about like a family in a house. Yeah, I wish I could experience it as that. And like, yeah, expectations aside, I've never had, I've always, most, for the most part, been like on the critical side of A24 films

where I've seen people get pissed off about something like, it comes at night. And I've been like, oh, well, I got something different out of it. But I enjoyed what I got out of it, even though it wasn't what they advertised. For this, I just, I didn't really enjoy it as a drama either. I just, I needed to connect to something and I found myself just being completely unable to. Didn't like the character. What about the fantasy element?

Because for me, that was one of the things, like the world building. If there was more. You know, the, you know? Yeah. Because like, other movies. Yeah, I thought a fantastic planet during the giant scene. And yeah, there's a lot of influences like that where I was thinking of other movies. The adventure angle really worked for me

I don't know Yeah it did for me too You know I felt like there was actually a surprising amount of the fantasy stuff Because I thought it was going to be relegated Mostly to the Green Knight character But there was You know the whole ghost in the pond

With the getting the head out of the pond And the magical green thing He wraps around his waist That protects him Yeah The Comra Yeah the Comragg See I'm thinking of these scenes

Like the head and the left and like the giants. And like if I try, I can come up with interpretations like, okay, like they walk past the giants and that's a representation for like how small he is in the grand scheme of like what he's up against and how he's, you know, like just his mortality and how he's, no matter what he does, he is insignificant and can be crushed by anything around him and he shouldn't be so cocky, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I can make the effort to come up with interpretations like that, but I still can't escape this feeling when I'm watching it

with just like, okay, we just saw like a minute and a half, maybe less of like the giant things, and then they're gone, and it's just kind of like, oops, bye-bye. And what I wanted out of the movie is kind of something where maybe if you showed those fantasy elements that it like was a part of a larger narrative, instead of just these broken up single scenes of, you know, like technically, I guess there's kind of a journey, but I don't really know if you could like rearrange the order of the scenes and it wouldn't really be a different movie. I think there. Do you agree with me?

I feel like Alicia Vick. Yeah. No, I feel like Alicia Vakander's character too is a big part of that because she plays two different characters basically in the movie. Like you can't swap that order, you know. I think those parts are pretty important. And those two characters, like, they're vital to tell them the story. Like, you can't tell the story without either of them. So I don't know if I agree with that.

And I also, to get back on, like, the fantasy element, I liked how they did magic in the movie. Usually it was just lighting. I like, there's like a close-up of Merlin where he, like, uses magic for a second. That was kind of cool. And like the lighting changes. There's a lot of stylistic choices like that. Execution of the Green Knight himself, I thought, fantastic.

Like the audio design of his crunches as he moves around and they didn't shy away from showing him up close and those eyes and the voice. I thought it was really well done with him specifically. His voice is well done. Yeah. It's the guy from the witch. A lot of reoccurring A24 people. Yeah.

Same price for the actors probably. Yeah. Good quality, but not like fucking Will Smith money, you know. You don't have to spend your intent. entire budget trying to get him. What did you think of the Talking Fox? I thought for the first

instance of it, I thought like, holy shit, this is some, like, great effects right there. It looked like really real. And then just over the course of the film

in different lighting conditions, I was like, ah, it doesn't look so real anymore. And it was kind of like, eh, took me out of it for a bit, but whatever.

I mean, like, the actual movement animation was great, though. Yeah. And I'm willing to believe that like some of the further away shots, Maybe they just like, they used a real fox and, like, composited it into the scene or something.

Like, I don't know. I have no idea. It could have just been all CG. I have no idea. But it worked well for the most part. It reminded me of Antichrist. Yeah, chaos rains. It came into my head, too.

Yeah, yeah. It was just like that. Yeah. I wish I got more out of it. Because I like the director, too. Even Pete's Dragon, despite it being like, kind of lame and boring. Like, there's things about it that I liked, you know?

Like, the opening scene was fucking awesome. But, yeah, I'll check out more of his shit. It's just, I don't regret watching it because he's a weird director, obviously. And it's always interesting to check out what he's doing. But fuck, if, like, if there were just, like, a little bit more sprinkles along the way, a little bit more treats for, like, action or, you know, just like a real strong, story tie-in for me or something, then I feel like this could have been like a really great movie for me because presentation-wise, it's just, it's so well done. And I obviously love

movies with presentation like this. But yeah, it's just not enough treats. Yeah, I know what you mean. I know what you mean, but I don't know if it's, if it's something like action that I'd want to fill that gap. It's a difficult thing to describe and explain when it comes to movies. of this ilk because it is such a, you want to encourage this type of filmmaking because it is just so impressive and it's just so well made in every way. But when it comes to talking to the mythic aspects

of a story that's adapted from source material like this, it gets quite complicated. There's so many different ways and different angles to enjoy it. Well, here's the thing is for a film like this when like so much of the enjoyment out of like the narrative is just from what's happening thematically, essentially, You don't have to sacrifice what's happening thematically to make a film more marketable. Like, you can still include other things that don't contradict what's happening thematically,

you know? Unless the entire point of the theme is that nothing happens, which I don't think it is. But, like, you could still make the film more marketable without sacrificing that, I think. So when I look at something like this, I'm like, damn, because, like, I want the director to be successful. I don't know if, yeah, I would never want to bastardize someone's work, but I'm just looking at this being like, man, if you just had a little bit more here and there, you know, like every 15, 20 minutes,

just like a bit of a different scene just for the Normies or something, then this could have been like a big hit, you know? Because I think in general, like, sure. People were relatively excited for this, you know, maybe not just A24 fanboys,

but, you know, people that saw the trailer and the implication of something a bit more. And again, not quite Lord of the Rings, but somewhere in between, you know? Right. A bit more expansive or something. I don't know. But then again, it's like $15 million budget.

It did feel like 824's Lord of the Rings, like a kind of... I know, right? Kind of fit. They still, but they still wanted to make something challenging, something that some people wouldn't like, you know, something that didn't rely on like action. Probably because they didn't have the money. But I really like what they came up with here. It was much more focused on just the style, you know, rather than showing you action scenes or whatever.

It was like watching an art film, which is great. It's what happened. For a big budget summer thing. Did you feel it was style of a substance then? I mean, you could say that. Well, I don't know if that's even a thing. I think there's plenty of substance to it. It depends what you get out of it because substance, like, that's just an entirely subjective.

The ratio of style per substance. It's like the word value. It's like that's, you need a subject to be able to determine a value or substance, right? So, like, if what you get out of it is what's happening thematically, then there's tons of substance, right? But, you know, I love getting things thematically out of movies. Just I didn't out of this one. Yeah. I did love the lighting particularly, though.

Yeah. It's very stylized. Like, when they was using magic, it was, like, red. Yeah. I like the indoor scenes, particularly, like, near the beginning because everything was, like, so dark in a way that wasn't, like, obnoxiously, like, Snydered, you know, whatever. but in a way where it was like, oh, this actually makes sense. You could still see what's happening, first of all. And second, you know that like the light sources are only just coming from the windows.

They were just like, okay, they didn't have candles in here. And even in scenes where they did have candles, it's like either they were so restrictive in the filmmaking process that they just used those light sources or they replicated it very, very well in a way that makes it, you know, you couldn't tell. I like that all that. They pulled a Barry Lyndon. Yeah, pretty much Yeah What about the sort of tension in the movie Did you not connect with that side of it?

What tension? I was finding at multiple points like When he's captured towards the beginning And he has to escape I found that to be an interesting Execute the sequence There was something a bit off about that There was like a little bit of goofiness

To that for some reason To which section Where it shows his skeleton And then him escaping on the sword or the section before. When was that? The skeleton part? You know, when he is kind of a trick to make you think he's died.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there was like a little bit of like unintentional goofiness for me and it's really difficult to pin down and describe. Because yeah, in a different film where it didn't look so great and it wasn't so well shot, it might just feel a bit stupid in terms of like what was happening, I guess, blocking wise or practically just him. goofing up real bad and kind of like, oh no, stole my shit and now I'm tied up sort of thing. It was like, it was weird in the way it was handled. And also, I guess the music was a little like overdramatic at that point, I guess. But for the most part, it really fit.

I don't know. It was like, it's really difficult to describe. But there was something off about that scene and a couple other scenes that where I didn't fully connect with what it was trying to do emotionally. What about the, um, the actual green, uh, final scene because I found that to be I mean it's the most memorable part of the movie for me is like the very beginning and the very end yeah the pay that's for me that's like oh you're

continuing the actual story that you set up for me instead of like these tiny little endings with a great final line I like yeah the like last shot yeah I love the ending too yeah yeah it's very memorable right I don't know I think this movie's challenging and we're all gonna warm up to it all of us Yeah, because there's also like the whole like sex side and the way, the like temptation and that side of it and, you know, his masculinity. There's a lot like going on in the movie. But I was mainly focused on this mother nature like oblivion facing his own destiny and death type type angle. I was focused on the honor and him, him attaining honor through death basically.

Or that's how he sees it. If you want to make a video essay on this, I'll watch it. I just don't know if I, like, I don't really want to watch the movie again to, you know. Well, yeah, that's the thing. I don't feel passionately enough about it at this point. I would totally watch it again. Mm-hmm. I'd watch it again.

I would. Yeah. I'm just not right away. Okay. Just take it all in. Do we want to give our ratings? Yeah, sure. I guess so.

Do you guys want to start? Six out of ten. Okay. If you're six, I'm, uh, 3.5 stars out of five. the possibility of going up. I'm a 9. So 4.5 out of 5. Okay, cool.

Damn. All right, we got, we got some movie news that was a little bit old, but whatever. What? What's happening? So Criterion's finally doing

4K UHD. What do you think about that? Finally. About time? It was about time. I know. What are they going to do? Yeah, it was bizarre.

What are they have in 4K? The movies they have are so old, you know? No, no. 4K has existed in terms of like resolution well yeah film resolution you're right okay absolutely film's about 8k right or more all of their transfers that they do for their regular 1080p blue rays are almost all 4K transfers anyway so they specifically say on the back they're like a new 4k transfer approved by the director so all they would have to do to upgrade is literally just printed on a different disc that's all they would have to do and so they just couldn't fit they could

couldn't fit it on the Blu-rays. Yeah, and what really frustrated me about how long it's taken them to do this is that, like, they also have a streaming service. There's nothing preventing them from just doing 4K there. Like, fuck off. Well, 4K on streaming is different. It's like a bit more compressed, for sure, yeah. It is a bit more compressed.

Like, it doesn't look like 4K. Do it. They're 10-8. Sure. You know, the 10-8 doesn't look like 1080P, right? The best you can possibly do is get a 4K Blurray or UHTB. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's the best look.

But, you know, if it's like breathless or something like black and white movie from the 60s. But yeah, you're right. It does, the quality does stay there. Like, the quality is there in the film. Yeah. You know, you could bring it up to 4K, maybe even 8K. Now there's AI programs that can up res and like remove the noise and whatever. Yeah.

Well, I mean, yeah, there's like different ways of like restoring a film too. But yeah, their first titles that they're releasing on 4K are Citizen Kane, Mulholland Drive The red shoes and a couple other things And I think I forgot them That's what I wrote down Mahalahen Drive, that's a cool one Yeah, I'll be replacing my

1080 pizzles With the 4K Because I've been wanting them to do this for a while I actually emailed them a very Probably annoying email A few months ago Just like Why haven't you done this?

Because like I'm just when you look at like how long it took them to adopt Blu-rays after the invention of Blu-rays like it wasn't as like this is a much longer gap after like the invention of like 4K UHD and I get it physical media is like going down in terms of sales compared to streaming

however this is a physical media company that A you know the few people still passionate about physical media are paying attention to this company and B they also have a streaming service that they could just release 4K shit on and so yeah that was my that was my issue like i don't even care if they do like uhd i just want better resolution although uhd looks pretty nice too but yeah every time this was brought up on the uh criterion subreddit everybody there would try to justify it being like well you actually can't tell

the difference between 4k and 1080p anyway like literally and this would get upvoted it's just people saying it's like get a fucking better tv or better eyes Right, exactly. Then watch it on a bigger screen. Yeah, you can tell the difference if it's on a giant screen. If you project on the side of a building. That's like a little bit of a Reddit thing. It's like you find a community of people who are just fans of one thing.

Like, you know, like in the Halo subreddit, they'll justify like, oh, it's okay that they don't do co-op or forge on day one. Okay, buddy. Yeah. Remember how you're complaining about that about the previous game? Like, fuck out. Twitter they were posted 4k screenshots from some fucking movie like look at the bit depth and look at the like you can't tell from a Twitter Yeah, it's screen shot on your phone On your fucking telephone

Of an image You can't It's impossible People are so stupid like yeah For something like that I think 4Ks make a huge difference Yeah honestly but yeah It depends on your experience

If you're listening and you like Criterion and you have have a 4K Blu-ray player. And by the way, this is also good because as far as I know, I don't think any, correct me if I'm wrong,

but every single 4K disc that I've seen is region-free. So, like, if you, I mean, Criterion in the UK hasn't really been a thing, right? Like,

they've always just been Region A for Blu-rays, right? So perhaps now it can be viable to purchase Criterion from other locations. I guess it also depends on what you're getting it for because I love Criterion a lot for special features.

And so if they have all the special features on the Blu-ray and not the UHD disc, then you might not be able to watch those. I just have a region-free Blu-ray player, so I don't have to worry about this shit. It shows you how that region thing is such bullshit. Now the 4Ks don't even have it. Well, yeah, because every single generation of physical media for video has gone down in terms of the amount of areas that they restricted to. So DVD was eight regions.

Blu-ray was three regions. and now we're just doing no regions. It's like, wow, you're just basically admitting that this was stupid the entire time and there was no point. There was no point. I really don't understand the argument. How about VHS? How about VHS tapes?

Exactly. Those weren't region. It's just analog. Yeah. Like, fucking music isn't region restricted. Like, you don't have, like, like, restriction on vinyl records or even CDs for region. You don't region restrict books. Like, maybe now with Kindle you do or something.

I don't know. But, like, I guess. just what what you can buy in the Amazon store is probably region restricted. But still, it's like, it's so, it was, it's one of those many, many things where the industry saw piracy and they're like, what can we do? I don't know. Let's just make it really difficult for people to enjoy this product. And it just, and it doesn't hurt the pirates because the pirates are like, they don't have

region restriction, right? It encourages piracy because if somebody wants to buy the best available quality version of a film and it's not available in your region and, you know, it won't work on your player and you don't want to buy like a fucking $300 thing, then you might just torrent it because the pirate is offering a better service, right? Sure. The more consumer-friendly your product is, the more people will buy it. That's why I love Gabe Newell as he understands that.

It's funny you mentioned the special feature side to all this and the physical releases because the criteria on like streaming things not available in the UK. Is all the special features on their version? Because it's not really a thing on Netflix. I do not have the streaming service. Oh, you don't have it. But I think I'm pretty sure they do that. I usually am not an early adopter for these sorts of things.

Like if let's say Criterion was like, hey, we're doing 4K on our streaming service, and they weren't doing it on their Blu-ray things, then I'd probably have the streaming service by now. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. I heard some people completely. about certain things at launch, like, you don't have English subtitles for English movies. Like, okay, why would you not do that?

Yeah. It's like, just transfer the things from your existing Blu-rays onto your streaming service. Like, do you. There's just so much money on the table that it's just being missed out on because it's just not getting to people in the right way. There's so many obstacles, stupid obstacles. Yeah. These streaming service suck. They're so bad.

They'll compete in. Even H-field Max is fucking lag to shit. Like, it's so bad. They're working on it. Yeah, they're working on it. They better fucking work on it fast. They centered the subtitles. They've been ahead of this shit.

They're in the center of the screen now. That's good. Part of me wants to believe that it was because I messaged them on their Twitter support. Maybe I wasn't the only person that complained. I don't know what criteria in streaming service is like. But yeah, I understand the argument of like less people are buying physical media. and it's not as popular as streaming. But Criterion is like, that's, I would assume,

that's like your bread and butter. Like, that's, the physical media is like what you're selling. I think you make more money off of physical media. You're making $20 a pop if someone buys one Blu-ray or, you know, profit. Yeah, it's supposed to be like a premium celebration of like a movie, yeah. Yeah, they charge a lot. Like, way more than. Yeah, yeah.

Well, because there's collectors. This people want to keep these movies forever. like me or whatever. And they should be like... And they put effort into the presentation of the actual covers and everything. Exactly. Right. The covers are usually really nice.

Yeah. A little booklet. And like I was saying earlier, the more consumer friendly it is, the more consumers will like it. It's like, I like being able to put a criterion Blu-ray in and the menu shows up instead of warning, can't skip, ad, if you steal you're a baby or whatever. Like, okay, well, the pirate is... If I pirate this, I don't get... that message, right? So, clearly you don't have to show this to me. Otherwise, I could claim in court, well, it didn't say that it was illegal to steal a copy it at the beginning. It's like, this didn't say

it on my version. Right? So why is that even there? And why won't you let me skip it? Just fuck off, right? Just send me to the menu. Put the trailers in the special features. I'm interested in the trailers, and I'll watch it. Don't put that before the menu. Anyway. So yeah, they're doing UHD. Everybody buy them if you're interested and they'll probably do more. I'm assuming. I just want them to redo their whole library like that quickly. Like you already have the transfers. You don't have to do an entirely new transfer. You have 4K transfers.

Just print them different. And I'm given the criterion a Ingmar Bergman out of 10. We got some other movie news also. What happened? The Cohen brothers supposedly, according to Indie Wire, they split up. Carter Burwell says that... Ethan doesn't want to make movies anymore. And it also says under the title,

but just because the Cohen brothers split for Macbeth doesn't mean they're split forever. So we don't really know what that means. But what I think is interesting about this is like, I kind of want to know if there's like one that's like kind of mooching off the other in terms of like talent. Talent.

You know, if one's just like if they direct. I'm curious to see. separate projects and one's like really bad and one's like a fucking masterpiece, I'd be like, hey. It was you the entire time. I think they're both massively talented. I don't think it's like a Neville Dean and Taylor or like the guys who did wreck. Those people doing things separately, they did not work out. But them doing things together, I enjoyed most of what they've done.

I like mom and dad, but fucking crank one and two or, you know, fucking make prank three. movies ever made basically. Lions game. What else do you have? I don't know. That's true. Linesgate's got jack shit. Yeah. Dude, I love crank. I saw there was like people shit on crank. They think they're fucking awful or whatever because they're trashy movies. I think those are some of the best action movies. They're so self-aware. I think they should totally make a third one. Yeah. It should totally be a trilogy. It should 100%. And no one would be mad at a third

at a third crank movie. Just one more. You know? Of course not. Like Jason Statham, I would love to see him come back. Yeah. No one's going to be like, oh, really? If you're a fan of the original movie. You want a third fucking crank movie. Just people hate that movie. I remember, there's some film talk or whatever. Guys said like, the worst movie I've ever seen is Crank. Like one of the speakers there.

Really? He just hated it. That's so weird. Yeah, that is such a weird one to get hung up on. It is weird. It's literally just sex drugs and rock and roll the film. Yeah. It is.

That's what makes it funny. That's why it's great. And then the second one's even more like extreme. Yeah, it doesn't hold back and it's like unabashedly itself, you know? It's just like, yeah, this is what I want to do for a movie. Like, fuck it. And you know what's really underappreciated about these directors? Like, even in their films where like, like ghost writer spirit of vengeance,

where like most people fucking hate it, I'm still able to find things to appreciate in those. Because if you look at the way that it's shot and I know that this just like most people don't even think about this sort of thing, the directors put themselves, an actual danger to get these shots in ways where you can see the behind the scenes clips of literally the directors on roller blades like hitching on the back of a motorcycle

and just like shoving it. They're all like wires. That's why the cameras are like really low frame digital cameras is because the cameras that they're using are inexpensive because they go through like 17 of them because they break because

they're actually like involved and crank. Yeah, like crank too they like got the car in like car accidents and like they put the cam order which is to say them yeah yeah I love the way that that's got a style but yeah they're brothers and their brothers brothers yeah what are they have different last name oh no they're not they just they just teamed up mark Neville teen and Brian Taylor for their names yeah I thought they were brothers my bad no the Coens are brothers what's really funny as I read there was a Bill

Murray interview of him saying that the only reason that he accepted the role for the Garfield film, the CG Garfield movie, because he thought that it was Joel Cohen, but actually it was Joel Cohen.

No. With an age. Is he doing like a bit? Pretty bad mess up. No, he was actually serious. It's like a real thing. He's being serious. Yeah.

Yeah, it's like real. And the interviewer asked him if he was doing a bit too. He's like, no, this is real. It's like, Joel Cohen and Eton Cohen Eton Cohen directed

fucking Holmes and Watson I think. Yeah, Homes and Watson. Yeah, guys love that one. Well, look, there's other brother filmmakers out there that are going to take on the reins. And they'll be great. Safty brothers. They made great movies.

The Wachowski... Undercover brother. Sisters, Starship, whatever they are. The Wachowski's got a new Matrix movie coming out. Yeah, I actually... It's going to be great. Oh, yeah. For the new Matrix that it was only one of them.

Let me fact check that. I think you're right. Yeah, one of them just decided, no. So I guess we'll figure out. I've had enough of this shit. Yeah, it's just Lana. Lily is not on board for some reason. What do you think of the name?

Resurrections. It's pretty bad. I mean, it's not any worse than revolutions. Is it alien resurrection? I just think of bad sequels Hmm Yeah That one was also the fourth wasn't it?

I guess it fits in with the whole Jesus thing I don't care Like people are saying like You shouldn't even make a fourth Matrix movie I'm like they made a second and a third Yeah exactly They didn't bring back Yeah

Who's a Morbius? They didn't bring them back Morbius Morpheus Drickin a 40 in a death basket Morpheus or Phobius That's that vampire Yeah yeah Yeah um

I don't know I don't care who they bring back I'm just I'm not gonna be I'm not going to spoil myself too hard on who's coming back and who's not. I think it's funny that Neil Patrick Harris is in it and Christina Richie. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah.

That's interesting. And Jada Pinkett Smith, who I keep saying Jada Plinkett Smith, because I guess the red letter media is just in my head. Ah. Uh. My son eventually hanged myself. Yeah. So I don't consider the Matrix to be like a big, like, oh, you can't touch this property.

because I don't know. The second and third one were like campy as fuck. And we talked about this before. I think I enjoyed them more than both of you did. But I don't know. It's like partially nostalgia. I can always get down to that first movie. It's the second two.

The one's off to it. The thing is that they want to make money. So they don't care if you like it or not. They don't care if any of us want it. They're just going to make it anyway because they like money. It'll probably do well. Yeah. Even if Lily doesn't direct or write this one,

she's probably making money off of like the intellectual. intellectual property rights anyway. Absolutely. She probably produced it or executive producer is throwing it to somebody else. Yeah, why not? Let Keanu direct. Yeah, fuck it. Why don't?

And they should have given it to Chris Nolan. Yeah, it's just about time now. I mean, am I even wrong? Every movie of his is like, if he had made the Matrix, Chris Nolan would be 100% satisfied human being. Yeah. I think Crystal and wishes he made The Matrix. Yeah, exactly.

There's certain directors where I, like, I look at something that they've made, and I'm like, you don't have to make a good movie ever again, you know? Like, you can, yeah, like, uh, Matrix is that one of those? Yeah, the Matrix is one of those. And like, uh, the dissent is one of those for, uh, what's his face?

Neil, what's his name? Neil Marshall. Yeah. He hasn't directed. like a really great movie since the descent, but I'm like, yeah, whatever, you're just having fun. I don't care. Francis Ford Coppola, yeah, he's got some good ones.

And then, you know, his late career is kind of bad. Yeah. We've got one more movie news thing that I'll mention here. There are a bit that, like, kind of piled up over time. This one's a little bit old, but it is kind of funny. So NBC won't air the Golden Globes in 2022, apparently. What? Good.

Yeah, and they're like changing rules so that the voters won't be able to receive vacations and gifts from studios. Fucking stupid, good. I know. I hate the Golden Globes in particular. Oscars do the same shit. Oscars do the same bullshit. Oh, yeah. They're going to go next.

Yeah, it's very biased the way that they pick movies. It should be completely unbiased. But like, if the studios didn't do this for like the Hollywood foreign press or, the Academy, then they wouldn't even know what movies came out in a year to be able to give the awards, right? Because, like, you look at these four-year consideration campaigns for, like, the Oscars. It's like, wow, it's just only movies from this. Like, they aren't even aware that other movies get released in a year, which is obviously why, you know, perhaps they just hate Charlie Kaufman or something, but, like, Best Adapted Screenplay nomination for Borat 2,

but not, I'm thinking of ending things, because Netflix didn't do a four-year consideration campaign. There's so many categories that he easily could have been nominated for that year. I'm still I'm always gonna be salty. They just nominate people to get them to show up so they can put them on camera, you know. It's all it's all a big farce like I just fucking hate the elitism of the award shows and I'm glad. I know what it was it was these stars realizing that people hate award shows and the elitism of them and they had to like sacrifice one of them. It was either the Oscars of the Golden Globes and they all fucking turned on the Golden Globes and it's pretty great like all these stars coming out worse against the Golden Globes.

I think Leo DiCaprio, you know, like, I mean, I think the Golden Globes are a worse award show than the Oscars. Yeah. They both suck. They both promote the same nonsense. Yeah. It's like a drunk rehearsal for the Oscars. I've said that before. Plus, like, Ricketts your case, I bet shitting all over them every fucking year.

I bet that's in hell. I love that. Right. And I loved how they were mad, but then it was so successful that they got them back. They were like, oh, more people watched. Yeah, but then the stars shut down the whole fucking thing because they don't want to go to that. Yeah. Yeah.

They want to be respected. So apparently, yeah, this NBC will not air the Golden Globes in 2022. The network said in a statement on Monday morning. I don't know when this was posted. This was May 2021, so this is a bit old. But this means the Hollywood Foreign Press Association will now have to decide how or if it will move forward next year without its broadcast partner. So it would be funny if they tried to get like a different network. But yeah, after this point, then the Hollywood Foreign Press Association was like, okay, we'll do.

We'll change some things maybe. So, like, I think that's them just trying to be like, we've changed guys will be more legitimate and not stupid. Because, like, it was pretty clear to everybody. Like, you could just, you could essentially just buy a nomination for a Golden Globe. Yeah. It's just a bad. There's always, like, a couple every year where you're like, oh, the tourists starring Johnny Depp and what's their name? Right.

Why did that got nominated? It's because they wanted Johnny Depp and Angelina Jolie to show up. Yeah. So they could show them on camera and get ratings. That's why. Is it because the tourist is a great movie that we all remember? Fucking stupidity. Like, great movies used to win awards.

Now it's crap. Now it's just like whatever, whoever they want in the room to get ratings. It's sad. Depending on the award show, depending on the category. I don't think that there's a lack of great movies getting nominated or anything. I do, I don't know. This last year's Oscars was like weird for me. Because like literally zero people have talked about Nomad Land since the

Oscars. Like, yeah, I get it. Most people think it's fine. Marvel has loads. They put it all over the trailer for her next movie. They put Nomad Land on the trailer? What do you? Yeah, from Oscar.

Oh, fuck. Yeah. Oh, we've got an Oscar winner. Because they probably bought it for her. I'm kidding. What else are they going to do? Parasite the year before, that was a huge movie. Yeah, that was like the most fun Oscars ever.

Right. It was fun. And, you know, that was a very different kind of movie. Like, there's no way they bought that, right? Some fucking random. grand movie that people just like it just totally took off here yeah word of mouth no one could have predicted that yeah right very accessible you know so happy for for bong yeah made a genuinely great movie i'm looking at the uh u.s audiences for major award shows just over over time and everything's

just like down down down from 2016 holy shit because people are sick of this crap yeah it's such it's so weird to think about just like because there was like a point in time where like people took this shit seriously and now everybody's just shitting on them. Like everybody's like, go home celebrities, we don't like you. Right. I'm sick of the celebrities. I'm sick of the elitism. I'm sick of bad movies winning. I'm like, I'm

sick of all that. You know, it keeps happening. Green book winning. That was the Oscars. Oh, Greenberg. Like, they think you're stupid. That's what they say. And like, they think we're stupid. Greenberg made waves, man. Everyone's talked about Greenberg.

Yeah, everybody's talked about it so much since. So good I'm glad my dad liked it Everybody's parents liked it Everyone's dad liked it Everyone's dad liked it It's the dad movie Yeah

It's a boomer movie There's this new Cinderella movie Coming out Oh yeah Is that like with another one They just made one with like Really James like five years ago Or whatever

But they're making another one And like James Corden And the rest of the cast whatever, they were like stopping traffic. Oh, God, that. Like, come up the movie. Did you guys see this? Oh, that was for a new thing.

Oh, I thought that was just... Oh, I thought it was just... Oh, I thought it was just... Is that, like, the most embarrassing thing you've ever seen? Yeah, yeah. Don't do that. You're annoying. No.

Is this the Amazon... James Corden. Maybe it feels like Tom Hanks. He could get away with it. Oh, yeah, he's in this, yeah. James Corden as... Starved Cats. What, man?

What's his own IVV. I just had to mention that because it made such waves. Like, the cringe. Apparently, it made waves. It was so bad. I saw nothing but bad press. Why is he in movies? I don't know.

Because he's in a talk show. People think he's funny apparently. That's all you have to do. No one thinks he's funny. Apparently some people do. He appeases the producers. He appeases the rich Hollywood producers. But I've never understood that too.

He's like a British guy. Why is he hosting like an American talk show? what why do you guys want to hear from him like what right we don't i guess we don't want him here so you can have him exactly that's how i feel about him about john oliver like who these people tell me what's not british people i'll let you in on a little secret Alex so there's there's a there's a phenomenon that happens for north american audiences where if you hear something in in the english language but with a different accent then it's automatically funnier so if we see if we see a movie it's like that has British people in it and it's like the same jokes

as you would have like as American movie then it's funnier because they're talking funny and that's how that's how we think over here and basically. But also that accent adds a bit of class, a bit of intelligence. Oh yeah, you respect it. It makes it a little more respected right. They're smarter.

Meanwhile in America they don't let us on TV because they think we're all Nazis. Does James Gordon have like a swore persona? No. No he's got it. That's the confusing part. He's like bumbling. He's like, bumbling. He He appeases the producers.

He's just got lots of famous friends, I guess. Yeah, there's some people that are just like really obviously well-connected. Yeah. Yeah, Jack Whitehall as well. He's one of them. He has a clean sheet and that's it. You know, he's good. That's being well-connected is like most of what will determine your success in Hollywood.

That's most of it. Nepotism to the max. Nepotism. It's a lot like politics. Yeah, it's a lot like fucking everything, isn't it? Yeah. All right, Alex recommended a boring movie. You want to talk about it?

What was it? So I recommended an anime. Spoilers for your name, full stop. Kimi No, Nawa. If we're going by the original name. Directed by Makoto Shinkai. It's a simple story. It's been getting ahead of myself.

It's not that simple, actually. Spiler. It's about two teenagers living in Japan. Full spoilers here. We're going to be talking about everything in this movie. Yeah, two teenagers living in two different parts of Japan, one rural, one in the middle of Tokyo. And all of a sudden, some magical comet causes a body swap occurrence to transpire.

And these two characters spend the movie figuring out how to connect with each other. and it's all very romantic and about love transcending time in a very kind of Chris Nolan sort of way How do we feel about this? It's like Chris Nolan for twins. Yeah, but what is notable about this movie is it's currently number three

on the highest grossing anime films only recently knocked down a notch by a demon slayer coming out in 2020. I think it was number one when it was released. What's number two? Well, it's according to this wiki article M1, it's currently number one, demon slayer, number two, spirited away. Oh.

That might be adjusted for inflation there. Yeah, maybe adjusted for inflation. And, yeah, your name at number three. So, and yeah, and on top of that, it's number 70 on top rated movies on IMDB. Yay. Yay. Wow. High ratings everywhere.

People love this movie. And it's always been one of those ones on my watch list that it's just been sat there and I've never got around to partially because, I don't know, I guess seeing two school people on the cover and it's clearly like a romantic. type story but I guess I have my expectations fairly low based on your reaction when I said the title

last episode Adam and I definitely enjoyed it more than I think the way you're making it sound yeah I enjoyed my journey with it but I guess I'm just a little bit confused as to quite the popularity it has despite you know my enjoyment for it it it went places I wasn't quite expecting.

I really wasn't anticipating it to turn more into this like a town apocalypse story with like a comic coming in and especially the time travel element. That's true. I didn't see that coming. Yeah, the time travel thing in particular was like that. The animation is very nice. I'll give it that. I enjoyed looking at the movie.

Yeah, there's an expectation for high budget anime in the same way that there's an expectation of picks. Yeah. I have very little experience with anime. Yeah, that's just, you know, my experience with anime is like Yuukio, right? I've seen Akira. Like, that's it. So I'm used to either cheap animation and Akira is pretty great.

But that's like totally different though, right? That's like, it's like not for Twins. This is for Twins. No, that movie's awesome. This is more for Twit. This is like a love story. This has like a little opening, like, theme. Like, that's like a little opening song and like it shows all the characters.

And like at that point, I kind of wanted to blow it. my brain's out. I'm just being honest. Yeah, I was surprised that it had like... It wasn't that bad. Yeah. Yeah.

I just can't really get an anime. It's just not really my thing. Here's the thing. There's like anime that exists that's good for people that don't love anime. Like, Death Note's fucking awesome. This is more mainstream. Right. Yeah.

Absolutely. It's anime for people who aren't kawai, you know? It's for people who aren't we boys or girls or boy girls. And there's all kinds of anime, too. like there are those like those live act not live action um there's like 3d animated resident evil movies yeah um that are coming on netflix that that's apparently anime like i don't even know that those are very silly because it's japanese animation yeah it's very silly and i guess not the animation style it's more so like i guess the conventions of whatever comes up in anime i don't even

know what that would be because i don't watch a lot you know but i i see some of that in here and this is this just shit this shit isn't for me at all i'm just saying that yeah it was it was It was okay. It was okay. I didn't hate it. It's definitely worst things I've seen like out of anime. Yeah, I definitely didn't hate it. It just felt a bit muddled in terms of its structure and how certain beats felt like they were having to happen and had to be kept as a surprise just so the story could happen. Yeah. For example. This is kind of new for me. I'm just not sure how to talk about. The whole, it's always bugged me whenever kind of like memory loss type stuff is. Like such a crutch. Right.

Inconsistently also. Yeah. And in saying that, I think of like Memento where that actually does work very well. And this film clearly has some inspirations in terms of that stuff, leaving notes to kind of yourself. Like leaving notes on the on the hand, writing on yourself. There's all that element. And yeah, I don't know. It's fairly interesting.

It's so plot heavy, more so than than I was expecting in terms of like, it's, It's a romance movie at its core, and I guess by the time they actually get together at the end, I feel like it's weighing itself, its value more on the inherent romance of these two, just the concept of two people being connected by something ethereal, by this, you know, wordless concept of like love and this whole idea of it transcending time and fate and all these, you know, there's romantic ideas teenagers like. I like the love angle. I actually like their relationship a lot. Like whenever they would just talk to each other, the guy came across as like a, whatever the fuck his name is. Like you came across just like a nice guy, you know?

I'm not even sure what to say about. Well, they're kind of supposed to just be like average people, I guess, by design. Yeah, that's how they felt. The most relatable two main characters they could possibly be and you're going to relate to one of them because one of them's like shy and from a rural area and one's more confident from a city. You're going to find something in there to, like, relate to and connect with. Again, they are teenagers, I guess.

That was kind of cool soon. Just seeing Japanese society or whatever, like just being disconnected from it, being Kuayam, you know, it was kind of cool to see the source of stone, just the city. I thought the story was going to emphasize more the whole city versus rural disconnect thing, which I think is an really interesting idea to explore. And we saw that explored in Tokyo's story, totally. different type of movie obviously but that was in the back of my mind but yeah it turns way more into the exploration of like the plot and the mechanics of how it's all happening and like why it's

happening it's so confusing it's not even it's not like a movie it's and it's an anime it's different yeah because this is the thing right i was i was i was entertained for this first watch because i had no idea what was coming but now i know what the story is i feel like i just feel like there's no need for me to ever watch it again. Because I don't know if those surprises. Well, yeah, how many times have you seen this, Adam? I did my second watch on two times speed. Thanks, YouTube movies.

So you really feel like after one watch, there's really not much else to clean from us. Nothing. Absolutely fucking nothing. Zilch. Because I was thinking about that a bit, despite the beauty and the meticulous nature of how I was enjoying it early on, how they were putting a real, emphasis on like how the rural girl was like the way she was eating her meals and preparing everything and her whole routine and the religious side of it and then the contrast with the way the guy in the city was living and just where that was going but yeah but then like you said it just goes off

to somewhere else and it becomes a different movie there's a lot going on and i don't know if it's like this if it's just an anime or if it's just me it's a movie that waste time is what it is it's like, fuck, like, in terms of like the story that it's telling. It's very hollow. Like, holy shit. It does feel very glossy. It weighs so much time. It's very pretty. It's very pretty to look at. But yeah, there's not a lot going on. And that might be what people like that it's very hollow. Yeah, despite that beauty. So sometimes question like, so what is the main reason this has to be like an animated adventure, right? Like, looking at the other highest grossing anime films like spirited away

How's Moving Castle? There's obviously a lot of Miyazaki in here. They provide things using animation that I could just never see anywhere else. There's one major sequence in the movie. Yeah, exactly. Or just the freedom you have with animation.

And even in Akira and stuff, there's lots of just imagery you'd never be able to see otherwise. And I don't know, I feel like you could kind of tell this same story in live action and have a similar result. The only thing thing being there's a pretty fun animated sequence when he drinks the sake or whatever it was under the spit sake.

Yeah, the spit sake. Where there's a whole sequence where it's a bit more vibrant than the animation has been up into that point. It's kind of a revealing moment with the time stuff. It was one of the few times it was pulling me in in terms of just the pure plot and presentation of it. But yeah, there was just too much of like... The everything that had to work in order for this main story to come together, like the side guy who's just like, hey, I'm learning how to do explosives now.

So then later on I can like blow something up. It's just such a like throwaway side character. Yeah. It's just kind of clunky in the way it comes together. It, it, this, this strikes me as a movie that like people connect to because of the concept, like conceptually. But I mean, there's other movies that have done the same thing, right? Like, it's so fucking derivative. It's literally just a mix between Freaky Friday,

Life is Strange slash Donnie Darko, and the Lakehouse. Like, if you've seen the lakehouse, you've basically seen this movie, aside from the whole apocalyptic element, which is in the others. But it is an anime, right? Are there any enemies like this that would combine all those elements? I don't know, probably.

I don't know. There's like a billion animas, right? There's something about the package here that maybe was unique. I just wish there was a little more edge to it. I just wish there was a little more something like Akira or even spirited away, which I had seen actually. I kind of forgot about it. But spirited away, I remember that had a little more like substance to it.

Yes. Then this does. This has so much whimsy. It's like you're really taken away to another world in that movie. Uh-huh. And like you said, the imagery of that film is very memorable. Like the creatures. And this is like, it's two people in love.

And that's fine. You can tell a story like that animated. But, you know, I don't know why it needed to. to be animated. Maybe I just need to read something from the director, like, why he wanted to animate this. Yeah, who knows? It's, uh, yeah, it's, it's very derivative and it doesn't make any fucking sense. The logic doesn't bother me. I don't know if it's because it's animated. Well, it bothers me. I find it fucking stupid how the main character is like, I didn't know that there was this gigantic event that happened close by that killed 500 people three.

years ago until just now in the story. It's like, oh, come on. And then later it shows like what he was doing that day. It's like, oh, he was actually looking at the comet. So it's like, how did he not? It's maybe just one of those like selective amnesia things that this movie loves to do. Yeah, exactly. And yeah, like, come on.

Like, the entire time that they're leaving notes for each other on their phones, they're going to class, they're going to work. They're obviously looking at calendars and schedules. whether digitally or physically, and they didn't realize that they were three years apart until just that moment in the film? Like, they'd been doing this for like fucking forever. Like, fuck on.

So stupid. Because surely you could have, maybe it still would have been the same problem, but having like phones and the technology we have in contemporary times, surely if you could have just set it in a different time period, maybe you could have been able to pull the story off a little bit better, a little bit cleaner. And they weren't going to work or school.

Like, you know, those requires. pretty much schedules you know that that is the biggest leap and logic to me that was like that's the first thing i was thinking was like these like two 17 year olds that know technology they're using mobile phones they're gonna like figure this out but then it falls back on no when they're like switching bodies when they come back they're all hazy and they forget details and whatnot so i guess you've just got to accept that or you don't i wasn't even paying attention to the logic that much i will say i didn't care much for like plot holes or any of that stuff.

I just, I don't know. I felt like the rules were different for this movie. Mm-hmm. Maybe it's an anime. Yeah, and it kind of keeps adjusting them. Mm-hmm.

You know, why is it so grounded? Why is it just a drama about, like, love? And then that's it. Because it's for Twainz. Yeah.

It's literally just to like fantasize and project under the character, you know? I know a few like college age people are older even who would love this movie like unironically. I think it's like the cutest thing. I mean, there's tons of people who love this. Yeah,

I'm happy for them. I really am. This is just not my ballpark. Yeah, I guess if you're looking for cute movies, this would fill the bill. Yeah, it's cute and boring.

It is cute. It's about love. Love is great. It's pretty cool. Don't you wish you were like a, little baby and that you were switching bodies for no reason and then make me a handsome Tokyo boy you know what really pissed me off about the music is like there's like this entire buildup of of like this climax of like this apocalyptic event and then during the entire time

that that's happening they're playing like some shitty fucking band or it's like there's decent music in in other parts of this film that are scored you know but like I feel like the potential of emotional experience for that buildup was just completely robbed from me by hearing whatever that band was just playing this like dumb cutesy music where essentially it's spoils the outcome you know everything's going to be fine because the tone of the music is like happy and like whimsical and shit it's like what's i don't like that over to over top of this like ah we got to save the town so that 500 people don't get disintegrated right while that's happening i felt like that was in

incredibly inappropriate for a music choice. The whole Save the Town thing. That whole story beat was just so strange to me. It makes the scale so high and it makes the stakes so high. And the way they solve it is just like, obviously they managed to like just escape but like off camera so the main guy wouldn't know until later. It's like super convoluted the way it all comes together. Yeah, it is convoluted.

Yeah. It's a lot of flaws with this thing. So why is the reaction so like overwhelmingly positive? And it's such a huge success. It's broadly relatable. Sure. I think an average person can just sit down and watch this and connect with it in some way. Yeah, it's fucking, I don't know, look at the most popular, not anime movies.

It's just like really consumable and unchallenging and boring baby movie. I don't know. Yeah. That might be, that would be my flaw with it. It's my criticism of it. It's just a little hollow. It doesn't have a lot going on. And it's not my wheelhouse.

So the animation is nice, but I just wish there was more going on story-wise. Like, why does the love have to be so like, I don't know. It's too innocent. There should be more going on. It should be more conflict there, especially with that love plot.

And yet, like you said, it just gets distracted by, It just comes from the mystery. Yeah. There's like other stuff going on. So the conflict doesn't really have to come from the relationship. But I feel like that would kind of be more interesting. At the same time, I don't watch anime.

So maybe that's not what the audience wants. Maybe they want a comet. And that's why I'm confused when reviewing this kind of thing. You know, it's just a different set of rules. But yeah, what is interesting to me is like looking in like the top 250 or whatever and seeing the types of animated movies that are in there, it does kind of stand out compared to some of the others.

It does. Like Grave of the Fireflies. Because it's new. A hundred-readed movie it stands out for me. New movies get plopped on there for no fucking reason. Yeah, you're right. Right? If it's trending, it's new.

So it's easier for films to get on the top. And also, like, people are super hyped about something, like the moment they exit the theater. And then in retrospect, like, a month later, they'll forget about the movie. And then people will talk with them. And they'll be like, ah, it wasn't that great. But, like, that moment of exiting the theater

where everybody's, like, rating these? Like, it just hyper inflates these ratings, whereas, like, all of these films that before as many, as many people were rating them on IMDB, there's, I don't know, I feel like there was a bit more accuracy in terms of, like, how people felt about it. I almost feel like you shouldn't be able to have a movie on the top 250 until, like, years after it's released, you know? I agree. I think the ratings kind of bullshit. Yeah. Especially for this. Yeah. But, you know, there's all kinds of stuff like that. Whenever a superhero movie comes out, right? Same thing.

Any trending type movie, basically. It's kind of annoying. You know, and this is, I'm not saying this is bad, but there's really important movies like The Godfather, whatever. And this is like your name that just came out, like, rated alongside. Well, like, spirited away. Like, I understand that being in there. Spirit away is better than this.

Yeah. It's boring. Yeah. It is unfortunately boring despite that budget, despite that animation. Yeah, it does drag. It definitely does drag at points. I wanted to get the benefit of the day. The second watch was essentially just me being like, wow,

knowing the full context of everything that happens is like, wow, this is a fucking waste of time. Like, we're half an hour throw. Is it really that bad on that level? I appreciate you gave it even a second watch. You know what? Part of me was like, I need to clean my room instead, but, you know, Alex,

recommended the movie and I'm a good person so I watched it despite two times speed. Yeah, I don't know. Like these romance, these romance movies in the way it's implemented like the whole

transcending time, this ritual with the the ropes and the trees and it's like, it's playing with a lot of cool concepts I enjoy and I feel like if it went down any of the other paths,

I maybe would have enjoyed it more whether it be making it a bit more of a tragedy, making just a bit more drama in there, just put more or less emphasis on the rules of the plot in some ways. So it's just less confusing to bumble through. I don't know. I guess it is just if you connect with those characters or not, and if you're just into the whole body swap thing,

whereas, as you say, it's fairly familiar. It feels like a bunch of movies that have seen before kind of combined together with an anime skin on it, And I guess, I guess that's what people like. It's for people who aren't old enough to have watched a movie before. I'm sorry. I know I'm getting hyperbolic, but like, I'm just like, it was one of those things where I watched it. I was like, well, that was really boring.

And there was some sense of relief knowing that I never have to see it again. And now I've seen it again. And I'm like, damn. It's a tragedy. Yeah, that is interesting to hear, actually. Because I was thinking that while watching it. It's like, oh, the way it's structured is, like, for that first watch surprise type things. I don't know how this would play out, knowing all the beats,

and it's disappointing to hear that. It's just the way it goes sometimes. Yeah. I guess the Sardonica's version of this type of concept is just being John Malkovich, the Sardonic take on the body swap realism of what might happen with that kind of situation. Who would I swap bodies with? Probably Alex, if I had a choice. Oh.

So you can have COVID twice. Yeah, you're a immune. That's why. At this point, you got to be. You got it twice. Yeah, I hope so. Jesus. For however many months.

How long was it between the first time you were infected in this time? It was like a year? Almost exactly a year. It was like the same month, I think. Really weird. Be careful in a year from now. Foxy. well I think we've kind of stretched the your name thing as thin as it can go

and so did the film I'm giving this one a five at a ten rating didn't change I kind of expected it to go down but I'm like yeah it's fine it's boring but like I agree with you it's like not for me it's a tween movie right so like five it's like five is like nothing so you'd give it a one out of fun considering how much you shit on it though I thought you're gonna give it lower it I thought you're going to be lower. But I'm talking about my experience with it and how much I value it in terms of my own personal thing. It's like just fucking stupid for me, you know? Like it's a five.

It's not like terribly animated or anything, you know? Like I'm sure it delivers for many people expecting that sort of thing. But yeah, five seems right for me. That's what I'd give it. The animation is very smooth and looks great. I'm not going to criticize it there. I guess that's why mine. My ratings are what, three star I'd give it out of five.

It's definitely higher than you guys. I think you could watch this movie and enjoy it just for the animation outside of it. But, I mean, that's with ignoring a lot of the story beats. I don't really have any strong emotions towards this movie. It's just one of those. And in some ways, that is kind of the worst type of movie in a way. But I just don't have – there's just not enough here for me to get annoyed about it's just so – it's kind of exactly what it looks like on the tin in a way, even despite the crazy jaffy.

Japanese concepts being explored. Yeah, it's just all right. It's just out of my will house. Yeah. Sorry, guys. Some nice landscapes and backgrounds. Uh-huh, that's true. You know, Miyazaki was a god in filmmaking.

Like, he's up there with, like, the best directors, like, even Kubrick or whatever. This is just not, this is not that. It's not really funny. It's not really that level, no. It's more fluffy. And it's fine. But that's more what I'm looking for, I think. Mm-hmm.

Question time. All right. Let's do some questions then. If we'll leave your own for us to answer it in future episodes, head over to the subreddit suggestion thread. Just like, my dick is very small. What's your favorite streaming service and why? I'm kind of, we're talking about this a bit earlier.

But I've got to throw out Netflix for that one reason. That UI and just the usability of it. Like, just the way how when you stop watching something on like, so you've got a tab open with Netflix open on your PC and then you go to your TV it's just like works it's like the same place continues UI actually functions

it loads pretty low bar but like holy shit it's got pretty good content on there that's what I would say it's pretty expansive whereas like when you look at the competition of it trying to find anything on Amazon Prime is the worst experience and like each TV season is like listed as like a separate thing.

It's like a nightmare on there. Yeah. Netflix just has it. Yeah. It's a winner for me at the moment. My favorite streaming service is HBO Max right now. Because of the selection and I can I can handle the worst UI. I can handle that the first five seconds of anything when you press play looks compressed as shit.

They need to fix that. There's things they need to fix, but they're working on. it. But yeah, the selection, there's like the quality of things that are there. What's funny is I'm apparently not even supposed to have it because I'm in Canada, but I'm sharing it with an American and I'm using a VPN router. So, uh-oh, send the cops after me. I'm paying for a service in a different country. But, uh, yeah, I, if, if HBO Max had Netflix's UI, then it would be awesome. Yeah, I'm in the middle. I like the HBO Max selection, but I like the Netflix UI. I mean, yeah. HBO Max needs the Netflix UI. I just the most things I watch are on

HBO Mac. It's terrible. I'm trying to watch the wire and I want to rewinds like 30 seconds because I miss something and it like, you know, it just pauses for like a minute and it says to me back two minutes in the file. It's like awful. It's just terrible. Netflix really has to it down though. Yeah. That's the one I want but again, just bring it to the UK God damn. More money just on the table. Netflix has kind of crappy they have a kind of crappy selection. That's my thing. Netflix. Yeah, they're way more, especially their own stuff. It's way super inconsistent. Mm-hmm. Definitely. They're doing well.

They're like the new Hollywood. Yeah. They're the new Hollywood. Because they're the biggest streaming service and so you're going to have a lot of like Normie movies. Yes, they're like shot on the, on the wall. approach. That's true. But you also get a good selection of stuff that's just, I don't know, just like an original movie. Like, if you're ever going on Disney Plus or Warner Bros. It's some shit based on something else or

sequel or remake. Netflix has good original stuff. Like Buster Scruggs is on there. Even if it's not good. They've got some good shit. Yeah, there's not no good things. It's just you have to know where to find it, most. If I hear that there's a new HBO Max series, if I hear that there's like a new HBO

series, I'm like, oh, that could be good. But if I hear there's a new Netflix series, I'm like, I have no reason to think that that could be good. You know? I feel like the brand. Yeah. It's like a better seal of approval from. Do you have more faith in the HBO Last of Us than you do the Netflix Cowboy B-Bop, for example? Sure.

Yeah. And I mean, I don't, I've only seen a bit of Cowboy Bebop. I don't have faith in either. I think that last one is just going to fucking suck false. That's my opinion Yeah, we'll see Maybe it'll be the first Good video game thing

If they just tell the game If they tell the story of the first game Sorry, I could see it being okay Yeah, and if they rewrite the story Of the second game Yeah, I think that would even be bad Well yeah, we'll see when they get season two What they do

But Mm-hmm I'm just gonna play Abby Maybe already cast there It's the angry girl Little Go from Game of Thrones Oh that's Oh sorry Abby

No you're right No yeah I miss heard you The muscle The muscle balance found a woman. You're right, you're right. That'll be played by me.

You've got to have to gain some muscles for that. Yeah, I'm working on it. I'm on a strict regimen for the role. Hebb he's got bigger arms than, like, Stallone. They're going to have to find some bodybuilding. Yeah. She'll get played by, like, Ronda Razzie or something. Sarcaste Don, left one for us.

Would you guys still subject yourselves to horrible movies like, Army of the Dead, the Tomorrow War? and other garbage like it if you wouldn't be a YouTuber as the satisfaction to rant about it in a review or podcast afterwards. That's a good question. Because I haven't reviewed Frey Guy yet. Yet I saw that movie in a theater.

And I just don't know what to say about it. Oh, you don't know. What's your gut tell you're on Free Guy? Whoa. It's called my name for it's White Guy because it's just a movie about white guy going around and they tell them what to do. Like, oh, yeah, women are great.

Women are important. and it's just like a bunch of bullshit like that. You think it's bullshit that women are great and important? To be pandered. I know, I know what you're trying. I know what you're trying to say. I know women are great. Women are better than men.

You don't need to tell me. Well, if I was doing like an eight hour a day, other job, then I would have to be more selective about what I watch, I guess. I wouldn't be able to watch something terrible and be like, well, this is technically work. and I'll talk about it on the podcast. There's tons of movies where I only watch it because it's recent and it's on digital and we can talk about it on the podcast.

I don't think I would be watching Army of the Dead or the Tomorrow War if those weren't those things. Yeah. For me, it's on the kind of morbid entertainment I can get out of it. Like Army the Dead, I get a morbid entertainment out of because of the whole Zach Snyder thing. But the Tomorrow War and stuff like that, that's the kind of movie I really,

struggle to get through sometimes, you know, it's like... It's just boring. Yeah, you watch like the first 30 minutes, and it's like, okay, I'll watch some of it on the iPad next, like, next day or whatever. It's just certain tiers of movies like that. I mean, yeah, I probably wouldn't watch otherwise. Those are the best ones, though. If you're kind of fed up with a movie, usually just, if I go to a microphone, I get it all

out. Oh, yeah, yeah, it's good for a video, but there's a certain... there's a certain tier like when it's super boring or uninteresting in any way when the runtime's just dragging those are the ones whereas I find you know

when there's some humor when there's some morbid enjoyment I can get I can get through it puff damn G CDR GN2 left on for us pardon the lengthy philosophical question you guys often talk about how you enjoy bad

movies or truly like bad movies i.e. Madagascar, fateful findings, etc. Do you consider this proof that what is considered a good movie or good art is relative to each individual's perception and perspective? Or do you believe that there's a universal criteria for a good movie despite the fact that you truly enjoy and like movies that you shit on slash criticize? It goes for this question so much. It's like the ultimate question.

The concept of good, whether you're relating it to film or not, is inherently subjective because there's no you need a subject to be able to say that something is good otherwise there's no concept of that that's just a human concept so yeah but if humans gather together and yeah but then it's good but then you would have to say that you call Hollywood right then then then you could maybe have a standard right a standard at least of what is good in in terms of like trying to take feelings about something or descriptors

of your experience you can phrase it in a way where you could say most people think that this sort of thing is good but I don't know like it's inherently subjective because brains are different and without the brain

without the subject then there is no way to measure that so exactly humans are flawed they're not always right I see film is like a cumulative art or slowly people have been adding to it and the good stuff stays and the bad stuff goes away or whatever the fuck however you want to say it um i forgot what the question was i'm sorry yeah the relative nature of the perception and perspective and is there a universal criteria for what makes a good movie yeah so if you're going to say relative i mean there's a lot of

people who'd say like the dark night is a good movie to disagree with it i guess that's fine But, you know, I feel like there is a standard for what is good and what is bad and based on where you are and what place and time you are and that changes for sure. You know, 50 years ago, what was good is definitely very different now. But I think there is a standard. I think if you stay by it, you know, you could be very successful as a filmmaker or as a writer. Yeah. I don't think it's that complicated. You know what I mean?

I think it is complicated because the way I view it is like I. I don't believe in any sort of absolute objectivity, whether we're talking about films or not. So if we're in that... I'd argue that's what art is. It's like, you know, then, yeah, like on a technicality, there, you know, you don't know the world exists outside your own brain sort of thing. But in order to function in a society that we live in, you need to be able to view things in a way. where you have assumptions about consistency. And so you need to live your life as though there is some sense of objectivity in the world,

even though technically there is no proof for it. So it's the difference between like a practical. It's a human made. Yeah, like I'm a determinist. That doesn't mean I just sit around being like, I can't, nothing's going to happen anyway. So, you know, like, it doesn't affect how I live my life in terms of like. like what I do. It's just a matter of like a philosophical conversation where I'm like, okay, yeah,

technically this is how I believe things work, if that makes sense. Absolutely. But there's, they're like standards over time that develop in terms of like rules of film. For example, like a token character. If you put a token character in a movie, it's mostly negative unless it's like South Park, the character token.

That's funny. That's obviously parody. That's a comment on the whole concept too. But if you put in a movie, it's something to be criticized, you know, and that's not like, it's not subjective. It's just like, as a species, we've seen many movies and we don't like that. So don't write that because it's lazy writing. It's offensive.

It's bad. It's not good. So steer away from that kind of writing. And there are these standards that have kind of developed over time that I think, you know, some of them are bullshit. Some of them are bullshit. And I think over time, people kind of root those out like sexism and film, racism and film. But overall, you know, things that say, like shots are in focus. I'd say a shot in focus is better than a shot that's not in focus.

And that's a standard. Yeah, but I mean, like it's a good standard. Then you, if you really break it down into like the hypotheticals, if we're going to use the shot in focus or out of focus thing. And you have to consider things like the director's intent. So it was the shot out of focus for a reason? And then you have to consider things like death of the artist. So like if the director didn't intend for it to be out of focus,

but the subjective viewer has a reason why that works better. if let's say, oh, no, it reflects this thing about the character and how he's lost focus on his life in this journey in this context of that scene. Sure. You could make an argument for that too. And that's why I say, like, on a technicality, there's no objectivity. But you're also right that, like, you know, my entire presence on YouTube is saying, like, here's what I believe is wrong about this, right?

But at the same time, because it's my experience and I'm saying, here's what I believe is wrong about this. the subjectivity is implied despite or any kind of, you know, objective phrasing I might be using. So I could, I could be like, this is, this is wrong. You can't do this because this is why and blah, blah, blah. But the subjectivity should be implied by the fact that there is a human being saying those things, right? Absolutely. And that's why it's art. That's why it makes for interesting discussion because we can discuss these things, right?

I think that's what makes it good. And it's so amorphous, the more you try and pin it down, the more difficult it becomes. I mean, like, I think we try to make it clear that enjoying and liking something is separate to trying to make the case when we think, like, an actual movie is good or bad, you know, like Ben and Arthur, we're not sat around trying to make the case that it's high art or anything. It is something different. I appreciate the message. I like the message. Mm-hmm. that means anything but yeah of course everyone can only assess things based off their

perception and perspective is what you're saying it is just right collective art all we can hope for it is for it to be educated an educated opinion based on other films and you know things that have worked before I think most people like certain movies you know I feel like there is a very universal response to good movies yeah that's why I believe in them you know like get out you can show it anyone they'd probably like it yeah yeah you're right it's not like a universal criteria but yeah there are like existing examples and templates of what does and that changes standards change and that's why it's art you know we're here to discuss these things yeah very quickly like art can be relevant

one minute and then not relevant the next and you know that's why i have immense respect for like directors and and uh filmmakers any film like that that's old especially like the longer it's held up like 2001 it's very hard to make a movie like that and to stay relevant for that long and i think directors really think about that kind of thing when they're making movies like 2001 that's why i really appreciate it yeah yeah this is this is one of my many yes and no answers you know it's both at the same time well yeah it's it's no simple answer it's well you know it's always changing and like listeners of us you know 10 years from now they'll be setting the standards for film maybe and they'll like something else and and the movies that'll come out will be completely different.

I just think about how much film has changed in like the past 10 years. It shows you the standards of what people want, how audiences change. Absolutely. How about this one from Swenglish 92? Hey Sard's Hope All of You Are Well. French director Robert Brasson once said, A film has made three times, the script, the shoot, and the edit. Do you agree with this reasoning?

And if so, which of these three stages do you? think is the most important? Well, I would never say, like, only three times, because you could, I don't know, you could, you could interject. You, it's, you know, like the God of the Gap sort of thing? Like, you can find two points and always find a point in between, you know? So it really depends on how you define each part of the other. Because, like, the script, you could, you, you had ideas conceptually before you make a script.

And then it's like the shoot, I don't know, like between the script and the shoot, you might be doing like a read-through with the actors where it's like before the shoot the script could change at that point too so i would disagree with like the three points only as like some sort of uh like hard rule for that and i guess what i would say is the most important honestly if i had to pick one it would be editing if i really had to pick one because like editing you can turn everything before that point you could still turn it to shit in the editing room and you could take something that's like maybe almost destined to be shit and almost kind of save it in the editing room you know like the editing is like the is where you create the actual film in my opinion

think about the power of an editor he he decides or she decides whether or not you see something in the movie and you know with hours of footage that that means something like everything you're seeing in a movie is yeah and it can also determine like whether or not you would need you know I think that's a huge amount of power like are we going to consider like the uh ADR part of the editing process because like that's big, you know, like doing re-recording vocal takes and stuff like that or like Foley and all that. Editing is immensely important for what the film turns out to be. It indicates the pacing. I love editing.

I don't think editors, I don't think editors get enough credit. I think it's one of the most important parts, like writing, directing editing. I think it's vital. Every movie is edited differently, every single one. Well, yeah, you say writing, and I agree with everything you're saying about editors, but I just feel like the DNA of the script, the concept, the ideas, if you don't have that at its core. Yeah, I know what you mean. But a script is also very, there's a template, you know, like obviously writers are very creative people, but there's always an act structure. There's always, there's always something there that they can kind of configure before the movie's done.

And editor, I think their job is very malleable, you know, I think they, I think they have to experiment. Depending on the project. Do a lot to make a movie work. Really? Uh-huh. Because they're like working with reality and trying to make it something tangible, you know? I think it's a very hard job being an editor. I really respect it.

It's almost like a job of like, it's like censorship almost. They decide what you don't see in the movie. If I were to make an analogy about this, it would be like the script. Like, everything before the editing process would be, like, the base stats or, like, the class of your character or the difficulty on a video game. And then the editing would be, like, how you play the game. So, like, yeah, like, for a script, like, you need something. It can be the core. It can be the foundation.

And there's tons of movies where I've been like, I love the presentation. I love the editing. But I wish it had a better script. I guess the Green Knight might be one of those. But, yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, the Green Knight's still, like, a six out of ten movie for me. still a positive score despite me not connecting fully with it. Sure. Yeah. And yeah, it really, presentation is a lot.

Editing is a lot. You have better tools to make a great film if the elements before the editing process are taken care of, obviously. But you can still make something with crappy tools, you know? It's still possible. Yeah. And I feel that way about a script. I feel like you make a good movie with a bad script.

I know a lot of people don't say that. I think you can. I think you make a bad script. I think you make a good movie with bad director. I don't think you can make a good movie with bad editing. I don't think it's possible. Yeah, editing can really fucking kill a movie. No, I think you're right.

I think if you add one extra scene in the movie, it's fucked. If you fuck up one thing, it's fucked. The whole thing. And that's why I think editors are so valuable. Yeah. And they just straight up are one of those underrated. I feel like a director's job. All they do is fuck up.

Like, that's all the director does. You know, like on set, there's no way. could go right. Because it's reality. Everything's going wrong all the time. Cameras don't work. Brains. Actors don't show up. Pru doesn't show up because they're sick. Whatever. Editor, you know, they take it and make it into magic. You know, that's how I see it.

Movie magic. Movie magic. And it is magic. Everhead ever. So does that mean you all sort of reject this broad concept of the three? Sure. The script shoot edit thing? I reject any broad. concept.

Okay. What about this broad concept from whiskey food? Andam has tendinitis, Alex has COVID. What will Ralph's affliction be? We'll see. An imploding economy. I don't know. You guys get gas.

I won't be offended, I promise. Hmm, your affliction. Hmm. Florida will secede and the American the rest of America will miss it That's a condition Well Florida might secede at this point Then in Texas

Texas has been talking about seceding forever though Yeah there's always one of those There's a couple of those in Canada People get upset you know There's 50 states how you get them the goal They'll work together Yeah the state's rights thing in America It's like 50 different countries

Yeah, it seems so confusing Basically, states have enormous amounts of rights You are right about that Mm-hmm States are very different Based on where you go Mm-hmm All different laws

Yeah, very different We have a messed up one here From CL1 Ford Close What's your favorite film starring Dwayne the Rock Johnson? I guess I'm going to look at his filmography Good idea Ralph, didn't you see

Jungle Book? Jungle Run. Jungle book. Oh, Jungle Cruise? Not Jungle Cruz. Jungle Cruz. Yeah, which one? Make it clear.

There's so many jungle movies. Jungle Cruz is okay, you know. Okay. It depends on the role for him, you know. When he was that zoologist in a rampage, I don't believe him as that. In a. Really? In Jungle Cruz, he's like a conquistador soldier or something.

So I'm like, oh, okay. This big ripped guy, I can believe that. Oh, he's a free guy, apparently, according to. is IMDB. He is? He's a bank robber number two. Oh, he's like barely in it. Oh, okay.

No, I like Dwayne Johnson for the most part. Really? His best role? I like him in the Fast and Furious movies. See, he's one of those guys I can't just not see the rock. He's always Dwayne Johnson to me. I never see him playing a character. He's a rock in a movie.

Yeah, he's a movie star. Yeah. And I mean, like, this question was picked as just a way to get us to say he's not in any good movie. right? Just be like, oh, fuck, like, I have to pick one skyscraper done, you know? Doom? Unironically, skyscraper, I don't know what else I've seen that was better.

And I hate it. I hate skyscraper. Me too. I don't know what I've seen with him starring in it that was better. Yeah, he isn't a free guy. That's so weird. Like, does Moana count? I didn't finish that one.

Yeah, I guess it would be Malana. Yeah, I guess it would be Malma. I'm like three out of ten skyscraper. That's my favorite Dwayne. I would say Fast to Furious. Five. skyscraper holds a special place yeah but yeah it was a good three out of ten movie

it was funny dwayne johnson dwayne i mean good for him he used to be a wrestler now he's an actor so yeah yeah he's on that grind he's not just an actor he's like the highest paid actor yeah and he can barely act i know it's like it's like the new arnold sort of thing you know where you just get somebody who's

really big that people like and then you put them in things and then Arnold was in better movies there is the thing the movies make money and that's true too Arnold was in Terminator yeah total recall he was in Arnold was in good movies I guess yeah way better at least what you call classics like no one's gonna remember rampage like 20 years from now like they did Terminator 2 or any of those yeah that's why I think Moana's like the only one that has that kind of tier kids will remember that for Dwayne. Mm-hmm.

So I'm gonna tell a little story about Dwayne Johnson. Please. He tried to break some world record about, it was something to do with like cereal boxes. Like you made like Domino's out of cereal boxes, I think.

Okay. Some shit like that. Dominance. But then my high school in Long Island beat him on his record. They beat him. What?

He was like, he was trying to outdo my high school for like, I don't know, a couple months or so with this fucking record and serial boxes. That's funny. Yeah.

Eventually he tweeted, let's go carry high school. I want to see you guys break Guinness World Record we set last week. I'm working in Paris, but I'm there in spirit, rooting you on. It's a picture of Dwayne Johnson

and then a picture of like my high school gym and it's like, you know, them knocking over the cereal boxes or whatever trying to break the record. That's so weird. Who's like trying to do that? What does it have to do with him

and his set of skills? It's so weird that like Dwayne Johnson, like of all people, wants to break like a record for some like high school like why does he care you know and that's all we were thinking like the whole community like why does dwayne johnson care he's such an interesting guy like i feel like i know so much about him his his fucking he's so relatable of like scorches pfg tv i want to see him in more movies I love him.

That's all I'm saying. You love him like a friend or like a dad? Like a bro. Like a father? Father Dwayne. Father Dwayne. Daddy Johnson. All right, we can do one more.

Johnson. Okay, let's do this from the Tird Muncher. Since we're getting a bunch of video games adapted into movies, what movies, what movies would you want to see adapted into video games? Mortal Kombat's all I wanted to see. Fucking. I feel sad to. No, no, no.

Movies that you want to see adapted into games. Reverest. Oh. Yeah, yeah, so the reverse. My bad. So like, like Blade Runner would be my answer. Really? I'd be compelled to pick something really boring.

Like a dialogue game. I don't know why. Yeah, fucking Gene Dealman. Jean Diehlman, Jean Diehlma, cooking, Simulator. Holy shit. Oh my God, please. Gene Zillman cooking.

He could make a game. Gene Dimo. Yeah, it's just real time cooking and cleaning. How about like a this is spinal tap kind of game, but it's like a guitar hero? Yeah. How about an open world Mr. Bean game? There's some movies that kind of feel like video games already. Like hardcore Henry, you know?

Or it's like, that's just a, that's like mirror's edge. You know? You're just kind of playing mirrors edge when you're, watch that. Yeah, yeah. Like, called duty. Yeah.

What about a freak guy game? Oh, fuck. No, sorry, I've remembered something completely different. That was not my reaction. Lawrence of Arabia,

the video game. I don't know if I mentioned it. I might have mentioned this many, many times ago, or sorry, many episodes ago. There was supposed to be an Antichrist video game for PC.

It got canceled, but it was going to happen at one point. Like Lars von Trrier. That would have been cool. Is that fucking weird? Do you play as the Fox? Yeah, I don't know. I think it was like a point and click or something.

But yeah, it was supposed to happen. And I was like hyped and then it just never happened. Like that reminds me, aren't they making like a game based on Vertigo or something? That would be cool. Yeah, because we're just in this era of all these like games. Sorry, these movies turning into games and games turning into movies. Yeah, it's kind of a crossover now. Yeah, Alfred Hitchcock Vertigo on Steam.

Right. There used to be a lot of, like, movie tying games. I remember whenever a game came out, or whenever a movie came out, there would be a game, like, with it no matter what it was. Like, Batman Begins, had a game. Yeah. The Hulk. You know, all kinds of shit.

Like, anything you can think of. I don't know. It's hard to translate them between each other. That's just my thought. I wouldn't like it. Most of the time they come out bad. Max Payne. Yeah.

Yeah, the whole movie Italian era of like the 360, you know, King Kong game. And it was like a whole era of that kind of shit. Yeah. And they were just trash. Just what are you adapting, you know? I don't know. I guess. I don't know if I have a real answer.

Bad Lieutenant, poor call New Orleans video game. Yeah, fucking Vampires Kiss video game. Any crazy Nick Cage will do. Anything. Hmm There's like You could do a ready player one video game It's just VR chat

Yeah Yeah like Fortnite Fortnite the movie It'll happen I'm surprised it hasn't yet to be honest I guess that's it for questions And I gotta recommend a movie And I've been struggling this entire time

To try and pick one Just on my Blu-ray shelf And I got like a bunch Just on IMDB here There's a lot to pick from, but I'm just trying to, I don't know why it's so difficult for me to pick one right now. Go with your gut. Don't tell me that.

What's your gut tell you? Okay, go with your heart then. Go with your heart. Okay. My heart says her by Spike Jones. 2013, I haven't seen it as well. You would have regretted me going with my gut. We'll save that for another time.

Oh, do I want to know? Okay. Save it. All right. 2013, Spike Jones. Her, H-E-R. Awesome. Not H-U-R-R.

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