SC EP:866 A Little Gravel In Your Travel
00:00Gentlemen, this is Hop 19.Multiple aircraft, multiple bogeys.Your training is half over.The competition for the top gun trophy remains tight.First place, iceman.Second place, Maverick.Just two points behind.Here they are.
00:16Three miles left, ten o'clock.I don't think they see us yet.Okay, I see them.Two-way fours left ten o'clock level, continue left turn.Hyper's up here, great.Oh, shit.Great.He's probably saying, holy shit, it's Maverick and goose.
00:44Yeah, I'm sure he's saying that.It looked like somebody was bent over and had their head in the window of the deer blind.It either heard me or smelled me, and he pulled his head out of the tent and stood straight up.And that shocked me.They don't make people that big.The way it moved, almost as if it was gliding across the beach,I've never seen anything move like that in my lifeThey were screaming at each other in gibberish
01:34It sounded like a languageAnd they were chumtering away back and forwardsBack and forwards back and forwardsI know what a bear looks likeAnd there is no way on this planetBut what I saw were bearsWhat are you reporting?Jesus, get somebody out here
02:10What's going on now, sir?That son of a bitch is about six footI don't know.Do you see a bouncer?Yes, I'm looking right at him.This is Jason from East Tennessee, and you're listening to Saskatch Carnacles.It's not quite 110 degrees, but I'm sure we'll get there.Welcome to the show, everyone.
03:02Thanks for being here tonight.Got a great show plan for you.We're going to be chatting with Rosalind.And Rosalind comes to us from Georgia, and about 16 years ago, she had a family memberthat had an encounter.All of this that Rosalind's going to talk about tonighthappens around where she lives in different properties that she has.And her nephew actually had a sighting.
03:27And it wasn't until about a year later that Rosalind saw the creature.We're also going to be chatting with Evan.And Evan comes to us from Louisiana.And back in the fall of 2013, he was driving on I-49 in South Louisiana.and he had a very, very cool encounter, roadside crossing.And I was telling Evan, it really reminded me of this sighting that happened on the border of Oregon and Washington on the Columbia Riverand a creature going over to the Oregon side.And actually, many eyewitnesses saw it up on 84.
04:06This was probably 20 years ago, 30 years ago.But it really reminded me of that encounter.If you've had an encounter and you'd like to be on the show, shoot me in a meeting.email. My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com. And if you get a chance to check outSasquatch Chronicles.com, you can become a member and get additional shows. Let's jump into it tonight.I want to welcome Rosalind to the show. Rosalind, thanks for coming on.Thank you for having me, Wes. Before we actually get into your encounter, if you would, tell me aboutthis experience that other family members had while you were there, and then we'll kind of walk
04:50into your encounter, because this is kind of important as far as what's going on and around yourproperty. Okay. Well, like I told you, Wes, I just live a strong stroll away from the Chattahoo River here.And so it was one summer day. We always run ATVs, you know, having a good time. And so theguys was going to cut in the family was going to cut a little pathway through this thicket.You know, they had grew up during the summer.You know, they was going to cut it through and make it easier.It was supposed to get by and build a bridge over this little creek area.And Rosalind, is this your property that you guys are on?
05:31No, no, this is actually on somebody else's property.It's actually somebody close to my family.Yeah, so it's just in our area.And it's actually inside the city limits.It's just here in our little area.they was working on this little pads, you know, they was riding.It was about 15 of them, I think.So my boyfriend was there with them.
05:50So he comes in that afternoon, and he was like, guess what?Red said, and that's my nephew, Red.He was like, Red said he saw something in the wood.And so I'm like, what you mean?Saw something in the woods.He was like, a big foot.I'm like a big foot.Come on now.
06:09You know, I'm like, what was y'all doing back?there. You know, would y'all smoking, drinking? What was y'all doing? You know, I'm just laughing and,you know, just really brushing it off, like, because it was silly. And he was like, he was for real.Actually, I did jump on my four-wheeler and go back to this area to just kind of look around myselfbecause I want to see what they saw because I'm always back there, you know, by myself, basically.So anyway, to fast forward, he said that he actually made it through the thicket red thing. He was on a dirt bike,and he actually made it throughbefore the rest of the guys got through.
06:46And that he just turned the dirt bike off,you know, walking around, smoking a cigarette,wait on the guys to catch up.And he was like, when you just look up,there's a big foot standing by a treeand it was just looking at him.And I'm like, whoa, really?He was like, yes.
07:04I asked him, what did it look like?And he said it was really tall.It wasn't like really big, big.He said it didn't look like a really thick big, but more like a tall, broad big, more like a big basketball player.He said, because it was really tall, like seven feet or more.I was like, so what did you do?He was like, I was just looking at it and it was looking at me.I was like, what did you mean?
07:31He was like, yeah, it scared me.And he was like, he didn't know what to do.He was like he, the big foot was looking like he was kind of scared.and confused because he said it was like swaying back and forth like it didn't know what to do.And he was like, it was like looking, he could hear the guys coming on the rest of the dirt bikes and four-wheelers and stuff.So he was like, he was looking that way in that direction and then looking back at him and then looking back and he was like, he got a rock.And he said he threw a rock at it.And he was like, it didn't move.
08:05He was like, and then he just kind of ducked down behind his brush pile.And he was just like, he was waiting, would they please come?come, you know, hurry. They were like, coming fast enough. And he was like, when they got there,he looked back up and it was taken off through the woods. He said, and he was telling my boyfriendwho would jump off and come and run behind him to go behind him. And he was like, so they ran a littlepiece. And I was asking, well, what did you see? He said he didn't see anything. He said thathe just saw the bushes was moving. And you could, it looks like something big had went through thebushes because he said trees were actually still moving and that you could tell something big
08:42had went through there because stuff were like knocked down or whatever.He could hear something large running away.And I'm like, could it been a horse?And because I know some horses in the area.And he was like, don't you think I know the difference between four-legged horse running andtwo?So I'm like two.And so I'm in shock.
09:05I just couldn't believe what I was.was hearing, you know, in this area. Yeah, let me ask you, Rosalind. I mean, at this point inyour life, what are your thoughts on Sasquatch? I mean, here your nephew is coming and telling youwhat he saw. Your boyfriend didn't see it, but he saw movement in the brush. And so as yournephew's telling you this, kind of what was your thought on the topic of Bigfoot at that time?I knew nothing about a big foot.Nothing.I had no clue even about what a big foot was or anything.
09:46I mean, and I just dismissed this whole situation because I actually started joking with him and other family members was joking and he's real sensitive.And so he just shut down.He wouldn't talk about it.One night, this was like, this happened like in the summer of O.C.about January, the end of January, maybe the first of February, 07.My boyfriend and I, my daughter, and one of his friends was leaving a nightclub.Everybody knows that I don't drive the interstate.I don't do expressways at all.
10:22I have anxieties because of something that happened years ago.And so I always do Tulane, you know, the back roads.You know, like a little gravel in my travel.And everybody, I know, you know, I tell you.So we drive this road, which I always drive.I've always driven this road.I actually lived in this area.Family, you know, in this rural areas, nothing but pastors, cows, farms, small farms.
10:47We live in my favorite bar.My boyfriend had took us out as a treat.So I was driving because he had been drinking.So I was driving and he's on the passenger side.My daughter is behind me and his friend is behind him in the back.On this particular road, like I said, I could drive with my eyes closed.I've been doing it all my life.In this particular area on this road, I always slow down, you know, at night when I drive through that because there's always a cattle, a cow, a calf or something, it's always out right in this area.
11:20So whenever I pass through this particular area, I always break my speed just to be on the safe side.So this particular night, and might I'm behind you, I was going kind of fast.You know, I was driving a Cadillac.after that we're going through this area.Nobody's saying nothing.You know, it was pretty quiet.I'm thinking it's about 3, 34 o'clock in the morning.And when I get to this little area, I actually saw down there.
11:42I just glance and look.And when I glanced, I'm like, oh, my God, what's that?And I was like, dude, and that's my boyfriend.I was like, what, what?And he was like, what?And then I was like, oh, my goodness, you were asleep.I started him because he was sleep.I had no idea that he was laid over there and, you know, had dozed off.
11:59And then I asked my daughter.I was like, did you see that?And then she was like, what, Mama?And then I'm like, oh, my God, y'all didn't see that?And the guy in the back, and might I mind you, this guy did not open his mouth the whole night that we had been out.But he said in this voice, and it scared me so bad, he said, I've seen it.And when he said that, chills went all over me.I hit the brakes.
12:23I turned around.When I turned around, I pulled back up in this area.Right?and it was just a cow gate.It's like a little pull-off.So I pull right there, and I'm like, oh, my goodness.I said, whatever it was, it was a calf.A newborn, you know, I looked a newborn.
12:40I don't know how old they were,but a good-sized calf was right there at the gate.And my boyfriend were making jokes, like, oh, so that's what you saw.And then I'm like, no, that wasn't what I saw.And the guy was like, no, that wasn't what I saw.Like, whatever it was, it had that underneath his arm.And I was like, that was weird.It looked like a big, dark, tall shadow.
13:01Just, I can't even really just try.It was just the outline of a figure.And it had like a conical head and thick shoulders, neck.And it was just standing up with this underneath its arm.But when we turned around it came back,I was just so shocked that it wasn't there when I turned around it quick.And so my boyfriend was like, oh, he started shooting shots at me,saying, oh, you saw the same thing.
13:26red saw, you know, and might not mind, this probably was almost close to a year later.After that, he started, we started in a little argument.So I just backed out and I dismissed this whole thing.I put it in the back of my head like it never happened until one day I was sitting at homeand I was watching an episode of Monster Quest.And so they was talking about this guy that ran over a Bigfoot in southeast Texas, I think,somewhere in Texas.And so they was talking about it, you know, whatever, whatever.
13:59So I was like, wow, maybe this thing is something, might be to this Bigfoot thing.So I just jumped on the internet then in 2007.And I read everything I could read about Bigfoot, everything that I could get my hands on it.Back then, it was just basically the beef jerky, had this, you know, the beef jerky,just had this whole web page dedicated to Bigfoot.I tell you, I read everythingabout four or five years.My whole life was just dedicated to
14:29what did I see?The guy that was in the cararrest him, he's dead. He diedin a car wreck a couple years ago.So I never got a chance to talkto him after that day because that was my firsttime actually meeting him.After me reading all of this stuff
14:45about Bigfoot,guess what?Back in1975when I wasfive years old. My dad, my granddad,dad, owned a lot of land. He owned like 200 acres in this same area.That's why I come from in this same area where this happened.
15:02In 1975, I went with my dad to feed his hogs.He had a hog farm. And that was the joyfor me to be with my dad, right? I remember we used tohad to go around and fix the fence. Every timeit was the first something we did, we checked the fence,and it always was some fence towed up, you know, posted stuff was always towed up.So we'd go around and we'll do all that repair and then we'd go out and look for hogs or whatever.So this particular time, I don't know exactly when it was, but I know it was summer
15:32because me and my sister rode on the back of the truck.She's five years older than I am.My mom were with us at this particular time, and she was in the car with my baby brother.He was the baby.I didn't get out with dad.I was going to play with my big sister.We was going to run around and play, right, while dad do whatever.Because I was so glad that she wrote with us.
15:49this time because she knew ever hard to go with us.So my mom told us what to do.We was like kind of bored just kicking around the dust, whatever.So my mom was sitting in a truck.Might as I might as you just straight down the dirt road,straight from my grandfather's house, just straight down over in the woods,maybe a quarter of a mile not far, down over in the woods.He had like 200 acres.
16:08And so the truck was straight.My dad never did pull out the road.He just stopped in the middle of the road and he walked out.But my mom told us what to do for fun.She was like, I tell you what, you girls just run off and you grab a tree about this big and you pull it over.And she was telling my sister, you put it down and you let Ross ride it, right?While you put it, she was like, guess what we did in the country when we was little?There we go.
16:33We take off.We go, I don't know how many yards away from the truck.She told us do not get off the dirt road, right?Because she could see us.She told us, do not get off the road.So we just walked all the way down so forth, just kept walking, kept walking, kept walking, kept walking.We stick to the truck.And soon as we found that tree, that old safflin, that was the size that we could pull down,
16:52my sister reached for it to pull it down.And when she reached to pull it down, I hear people talk about the roar,and I did not know until I read the accounts that that's what happened to us.It roared.And I know my dad hunt, there's nothing in Alabama in our woods.It sounds like that.Yeah, I've heard that before.It sounds like a lion's roar, doesn't it?
17:22She's like a lion.It's a lion.It was like a lion.And she left me.And do you know for years, Wes, we would joke about this?We told my mom, she took off, she left me, and I'm running for my dear life.And I remember running out of my shoes, crying.I remember I fell.
17:43And when we got back to the truck, Mama, we told her that something scared us,Oh, you know how parents are.I've just said so many stories.I was like, wow, this is so typical.You know, mom, like, oh, it was this, it was that.It was nothing.But me and my sister, still to this day.And I just told her about seven or eight months ago,
18:03that had to be what it was.She said, you know what?It couldn't have been nothing else because she's all my life.I said it was a boogeyman.Yeah, you and I were talking about that earlier.I've heard that Lions roar.I've heard it about a half a mile, maybe a mile away.And when you hear it, I mean, you are at attention.
18:23You're on high alert when you hear that.And if you're really close to it when it roars,it almost feels like being hit with a bat, you know, with a sound waiver.I mean, it will strike fear on you for sure.Yes.You know, Wes, today I got anxieties because looking at and listening at DavidPilates, the 4-1-1, I've studied so much.And listening at these days, I'm like, I could have been missing.
18:53You know, I've heard a lot of the stories, some of these people, I wanted to have the sameanxiety that I have about, I could have been one of those cases.You know, my mom would have never knew what happened to her baby, you know?I mean, it just, it just freaks me out sometimes just thinking about it.Sometimes it just makes me really sick, you know, to my stomach.Yeah, I appreciate it.sharing that, Roslyn. I mean, that, you know, anyone who's ever heard that sort of vocalization,I don't think I've heard anyone say it sounded like anything else besides a lion. And a lion has a
19:27very specific tone and, you know, vocal that comes out. I wanted to ask you, after having thisencounter, did it change your life? Yes. I've, I know that he's real, even though that little faint visualjust passing by and seeing what I saw.I know what I saw.That roar.I know what it was.Nobody can tell me anything.And then even afterwards, years later,
19:58there was some other activity on my mom's property while we was camping.Isles Houghton.It's a lot of bamboo on this property.Bamboo broken over.Fruit trees stripped overnight.A lot of fruit trees there, apples, pears, blueberries,stripped overnight.I meant stripped bare.
20:17And then one time I actually saw something,but I wasn't sure what it was.I actually thought maybe was a beaver or something,but it was a long way from me in this particular area.All of this happened like in 2016,this recent stuff with this property.And then one day allowed tree break.And I was doing this property by myself.
20:36And I didn't know nothing about the behavior at that timeuntil I started reading about behavior.And I put this together.Like, that's what was going on around me up there on its property, you know, with all the fruit being missing.You know, we go there one day, the trees are like leaning over with crab apples and pears.And the next day, they're gone.All of them.Nothing.
20:58And it was just mind-boggling because I did not know about the behavior.So when I studied a lot of the behavioral patterns, I knew then that these tree breaks, those al-hoots, these things was contributed to that.and I was wondering when that tree break happened,I kept wondering, why did it happen on that side of the road?It was across the street.And I would put slop over there.You know, it was way up in the country.And, you know, when we get through eating breakfast and different stuff,
21:27the straps, I would just take them and dump them over there on that side of the road.I was like, it had to have something to do with those straps.And I can remember, you know, deer's being in that area.So, but these things that has.happened to me is cause a lot of anxiety.And you're definitely not alone. I mean, it causes all of us anxiety. And it's very stressful andshocking to see one. Can I ask you, what do you think Sasquatch is?I actually just Googled when I started to actually find out what they were. One man told me
22:07that they was a demon. And I was determined to find out was it a demon or not because I didn'tbelieve that.I like, this got to be just blood and flesh.So I just Googled Nephlin.I just wanted to know when something had ever walked the earth in a human shape or human form ever, over 10 feet tall.So Nephlin kept reoccur.And so I embarked on Nephlam.I read a lot of stuff about them, the fallen angels.
22:35When I actually had to put the two pieces together, finding out that aliens, you know,we always think the aliens are the little green men from me.Mars, but no aliens are actuallyfallen angels and theabomination that occurred.If we go back pre-flood,there's a lot of hybridoffspring.
22:54It's an abomination.I think that, you know,how could the government not know?One guy asked about, you know, something about one of thesenational parks. I think of wheresomewhere in Washington, it was a nameafter got some with Theodore Roosevelt in his bookpertaining to Bigfoot situation.
23:12with the minors. How could they not know?Yeah, I have no doubt that the government knows.With regard to Sasquatch, so you think it's more paranormal?I mean, it's physical but has other abilities.Is that kind of what you're saying?Yes, a hybrid.They're hybrids creations.They're like she said, abomination.
23:34They're hybrid creations.I think that they're a splice.And I think it's the ultimate splice of creation.I think that they are part human, they are part animal, and they are part spiritual being.I think Dr. Jeff Melcham did this monster quest where they went up to Vancouver to this cabin.I don't know if you remember that episode on the History Channel where they got DNA, unknown origin.It actually had animal and human DNA, but an unknown origin.So I think that they are some of them, that's why they look different, they behave different,
24:09because some of them I think are more human,some of them I think are more animaland some of them I think are more spiritual.Those ones are able to do things that's paranormal.I've listened at one account of where this guy wassome kind of doctor for the governmentand where he actually said they can regenerateand I thought that was very interesting
24:31that he actually saw one in the process of trying to regenerate.So I've heard, you know,you hear people say that they move so fluent.Some of them move so fluent is almost like they're not walking,like they're maybe levitating, floating.Yeah, it's a long list of weirdness.And I think you and I are kind of on the same path.I don't buy into the Nephilim thing.
24:55And if you're interested in Genesis 6 and the whole Nethlem thing,if you get a chance, Roslyn,check out Genesis 6 conspiracy by Gary Wayne.Great book.And I'm not a reader.I hate reading, but I loved reading that book.And it's kind of scary.I mean, there's so many weird things from the past that are going on today.
25:17And he nails it.He nails the Nephilim, you know, more or less being gods and kings.And I do agree with you, though, on the abomination.I think you could be on to something there.Can I ask you out there where you're at in Georgia?Has there been any recent activity?Well, actually, I've talked to a couple of people that had some sightings years ago, like these happened years ago.But just recently, but I haven't talked to this little girl.
25:48She's actually from around this area, and she's a young girl, I think maybe in her 20s.She talked about seeing one where they live at, and she said when she catched the bus in the morning.And so I found it interesting how the subject came up.Her mother was threatening her about if she missed the school busthat she was not going to take her to school.And she said that she didn't care that she would walk a big foot watches over herbecause he's out there every morning watching her when she gets on the bus.I haven't got a chance to talk with her.
26:23I do try to talk, you know, just seeing what they'll say.You know, I kind of ease the conversation around because everybody don't like to talk about it.And I try not to talk if I ask somebody about something I've heard.I try not to do it in front of a lot of people.And actually, the time when my nephew started in 2006,I actually went online at that particular time to see that anybody else in this area,see anything else out of the ordinary.And it was two other people.
26:51It was a nurse, her and her husband.She works here at our local hospital in Lee County.it was a nurse and she said her and her husbandthey were out at his hunting cluband I think it was just hanging outI don't know if they was making out or whatever you knowbut she said that she saw itand she was like it was swaying
27:12and it goes again and it was talking about this swayingI thought that was very interested I just readshe just had just a little small accountI forgot exactly where it wasI don't think it was on that beef jerkyit might have just been on some Alabama websiteit's been so longand then it was another
27:27some teenagers that was campingin Tuskegee, which is about 25 miles from here.They actually was camping and some things went on there that they saw one.And that was in the same year.Yeah, I admire you, Rosalind, for, you know, researching this, kind of looking into,has anyone else in this area seen this thing?And I think, you know, after people have encounters, we tend to think, I guess, as humans,that we're the only person who's ever seen this.
27:57and it couldn't be further from the truth.And I know that a lot goes on in Georgia.I've talked to many, many eyewitnesses down there.The South in general has a lot going on.But I really enjoyed chatting with you, Rosalind.Thank you so much for taking the time to come on.I enjoyed it, and I'm so glad that I was able to talk to you to get this off of my chest finally.And I want to play some audio for you guys.
28:43This audio is from May 15.2009 and this is from Ontario, Canada, in the Sheraton Hotel. What basically happened is the managerand another employee a year before, we're seeing this craft flying around at night around theSheraton Hotel, and they would go out there and watch it, they would take pictures of it, videoof it, and they were posting stuff up on social media, but they didn't do it until closer to2009 and in 2009 they got a visit but the manager wasn't there that day and I'm sure most of you haveseen this video if you haven't go to saskwatchronicles.com and look on the blog it's up there todayyou can watch the video of these two what appear to be men in black come come into question this
29:38guy let's take a listen this is a story behind the video and again if you get a chance go checkout the video. Let's take a listen.One of myZalman approached me and he kind of had a weirdlook on his base and he said to me,can we go in your office and talk?I brought him into my office and he said,uh, something
29:58really weird happened here yesterdayand you weren't here.He said, uh, we're the coupleguys in here looking for you.And I said, a couple guys.What do you mean? And he said,well, um, this is reallyhard for me to say. He said, but
30:14there's a couple really strange looking men that were here.And they kind of freaked everybody out, and they were asking questions about you.And, of course, now I'm getting a little bit nervous, and I'm like, what are you talking about?And he said, well, they were, he goes, I don't know how to describe them except for extremely odd looking.They were really, really tall.He said, and they were identical height.They were the exact same height.They were wearing the exact same clothes, and they had the exact same faces, like they were twins.
30:51And he said they were wearing black suits, black trench coats.They were wearing like the old-fashioned federal hats.They had extremely, extremely pale skin.And he said they came in, and they looked around a little bit, and they asked for you.and I said, I'm sorry, he's actually not working today.And it seemed like they didn't believe me.So they started to walk around the hotel, and shortly after they went to the tour desk,and he goes, I got busy.
31:24I started to have to bring cars around and get luggage.And by the time I came back, they were gone.But he goes, they freaked me out, and I really wanted to tell you that there were these weird guys in here looking for you.So, of course, now I'm a little bit skeptical, and then a little bit of,freaked out all the same time. So the first thing I do is I run into my security office,because I know how to work the security system, and I reround the cameras, and sure enough,there, here comes two gentlemen through the front door, looking exactly how he described.Then the next day, I was talking with my tour desk, and one of them asked to talk to me.
32:05She came in my office, the same as my bellman, and she said, I need to tell you aboutsomething that happened. I heard that you heard that there were some men looking for you. And I said,yes. And she said, they asked a few questions about you. And they said, strange things that I didn'tunderstand. And they were talking about governments and conspiracies. And none of it made any sense to me.But she goes, they were very, very scary. And I said, well, why were they scary? And she said,they had no facial hair, none.She said they had no eyebrows, no eyelashes, nothing.Their hair looked like they had a wig on, like it was attached to their hat, like it wasn't even real.
32:53And she said, and the scariest thing, their eyes were so big and so blue that they almost hypnotized me a little bit.And she goes, and you're going to think I'm crazy when I tell you this, but I swear they knew what I was thinking.I swear, and I don't think I'm crazy, but I don't even know how they could do it, and I don't know why I'm even telling you this.So I started to think about things other than you, and I don't even know if it worked.And she started to cry, and she said one more thing before she left.She said, these men, they didn't blink.not once did I see them blink.Next up on the show, I want to welcome. Evan, Evan, thanks for coming on.
33:50Yeah, absolutely. Glad to be here.Yeah, man, I really appreciate you being here.And, you know, before we started recording, I was telling you about this encounter on the border of Washington and Oregonand how one of these creatures crawled up the side of the embankment and ran across I-84 on the Oregon side.and how really your encounter reminded me of that.If you would take us back to 2013 in South Louisianaand kind of tell us what you were doing and walk us into what happened.Okay, yeah, well, I guess I guess I kind of had a classic roadside crossing.
34:29I'm from Lafayette, Louisiana, which is south central Louisiana.And 2013, I was driving north to a dentist appointment in my hometown.It was about three-hour drive that I'd be there at 8 o'clock, so I was on the road pretty early.I had my coffee, and I had just kind of woken up, and I was driving on the interstate.The cruise set, I'm just kind of chilling, kind of enjoying the misty morning air.It was early fall.It was still kind of warm outside, and it was just cool enough that it was misty.And I remember thinking to myself that all the mist and fog in the morning was just starting to barely glow, and it looked pretty cool.
35:08and I was following this white sedan.I can't remember what kind of car it was,but it was a white sedan following them by a few secondsto just kind of, you know, enjoying the ride.And all of a sudden, they slam on their brakes.I mean, they slammed on their brakes hard.And it happened so fast.But as I pull over to the left-hand lanes,
35:32switching lanes, I see it.And whatever it was, it was,Solid black.It looked like a man.And if I didn't know any better, I would say it was a man,except for it was huge.It was so big.West, whenever I pulled over to the left lane,
35:51it blacked out my passenger window.And if you'll let me take a second,kind of describe what I saw.If you're in your car and you pass someone on a bicycle,as you pass by them,the window, the dimensions of your passenger window, will obscure the view of them.As they go from the windshield through the passenger window, you can no longer see, you know, their legs or the wheels because of the smaller window.And that's what I saw. This black figure of a man, all of a sudden was just a solid black mass that took up the dimensions of the window.
36:35and it happened so fastbut whenever I saw thatI realized that whatever this thingwas was already steppingoff of the road into the shoulderand so I'm inthe left-hand laneand this thing stepping off
36:51the shoulder into the grassmaybe 20 feet awayis still big enough to completelytake up the dimensionsof my passenger windowthere's no waya person could have been that waythat big, and they would have had to
37:06been an NFL linebacker,or even bigger to be thatsize. Soas I pull overthe left-hand lane, I seewhat I think isa huge, a huge manand all of a sudden, it's just
37:22black because of how bigit was.Where did the creature go?It looked like it wasstepping off the road. He hadleft foot forward, you know, thatclassic kind of kind of shape, you know, it looked like he was just crossing the road. And what I thinkhappened was, is he crossed the road in front of the people in front of me. And they got a full look of it.
37:47Because they slammed on their brakes. They slammed on their brakes hard. And I just reacted to it.And I just pulled, you know, I just switched lanes to go around them. And it's so weird because I've beeninto Bigfoot and UFOs and all kinds of weird.stuff. The thought didn't even occur to me that maybe I should stop and talk to them to see whatthey saw. There was an exit right up ahead of where this happened, and I saw that they got offthat exit. And I was just kind of in a daze. The thought didn't even occur to me that maybeI should see, because whatever it was, they saw it a lot better than that is. And it sure wouldbe interesting to go back in time and, you know, ask them what it was they saw. Yeah, it's that old
38:30saying that, you know, having hindsight is 20-20, but.you know, after you see something like this, you're in shock.Can I ask you how far away from you was a creature?I realize there's a car in front of you, and you kind of pull out to the left lane,but how far away is a creature from you at this point?I would say no less than 20 feet.It was probably more than that.And I was following fairly close to the car in front of me.
39:00So I fell on my brakes and I changed.lanes and that's whenever I see it stepping off the road and so I'm in the left-hand lane and it'sstepping off the shoulder so that's probably 20 30 feet or so at the time I drove a ChevyColomalt which was a pretty small car so I guess it certainly wouldn't have been 10 you knowfeet or more but I definitely believe that it was every bit of seven seven a half maybe even eightfeet tall. It definitely seemed like it was about twice as tall of my car. It was massive. I've neverseen anything so big in my life. I've seen, I've seen, you know, big deer. I've seen elk.I've never seen anything so big. That's what it was crazy is that at first I thought I was a person,
39:49but then I thought there's no way that was a person, you know. It was so big. Yeah, there's sizes.The reason, you know, when you think about how we really can't catch up with them and how big theyreally are. It's weird. Can I ask you, you know, how did this kind of affect your life, you know,after having this encounter? At first, I kind of thought I was crazy for a while because, one,I didn't know that they were even in Louisiana. And granted, this is also, this is South Louisiana.Even today, you'll hear accounts of it kind of on the borders, like on the Sabine River,out towards Texas and Honey Island Swamp, which is on the border with Mississippi.But this is like right smack down in the middle of Louisiana, about 20 miles or so from
40:34the Chaffawai Basin.You don't hear a whole lot of encounters there.So I didn't even think about it as being that.Yeah, I'm always amazed because people in the South think that, you know, why is it down here?This is, if it exists, it's supposed to be up there in the Pacific Northwest.And I definitely think more goes on in the South.what do you think that these creatures are?What's kind of your opinion?
40:59What do I think they are?I know you'd ask me that question.You know, I don't have a clue with what they are.My grandmother would tell you they were boogers,and that's just, you know, whatever that's supposed to mean.I'll tell you what I want them to be.I want them to be just, you know, just an undiscovered primate,or maybe even a hometed that we've diverged from a long time ago.
41:21Or I would even be comfortable with them, maybe be in some type.of Jungian archetype or something like that.But I hear a lot of stories about them doing some weird stuff.The whole spiritual, the whole maybe even demon idea of them, being something like that.I don't know.That kind of creeps me out.So I kind of want them to be just, you know, flesh and blood.Yeah, you and me both.
41:46That's really what I wanted to be.I really do want it to be some weird ape or something like that.we just haven't been able to catch up with. And I think the older I get, the more I'm, you know,I just don't argue with anyone anymore. If I don't agree with them, I'm just like, I wish you thebest. And I've kind of become Ron Morehead. You know, he used to always go, what was his saying,you could be right. You know, it's a perfect way if someone wants to debate or argue with you,just go, oh, you could be right. And then there's nothing more to say. But, you know, I guess I want them to beflesh and blood, but you're right, there is a lot of weird stuff that goes on that is maybe more
42:26spiritual.They could be both, because, you know, humans are spiritual, too.You know, there's all kinds of strange, you know, of course, people can be ghosts, butthere's all kinds of weird stories about people astral projecting or having, you know, healingabilities or powwow or, you know, humans are spiritual too.So, you know, maybe they could be both as well.Yeah, let me ask you, Evan.And I know our world is much bigger than probably most of us realize.
42:54And I know that you do look into the UFO topic.And, you know, anytime I talk about anything outside of pigfoot, people are like,ah, you're running the show.Like, but I know you've looked into the UFO topic.And I know that, you know, people who are into looking, you know,researching, investigating Sasquatch generally will look into UFOs and generally will look into ghosts.And do you ever notice weird,correlations, you know, I'm trying to think of an example, like the Balls of Light, where you'll hear it in one genre, but you'll hear it across the board in most genres. Do you see a lot of correlations and a lot of coincidences?
43:34Oh, absolutely. So I've only ever had one, what I would consider, Big Foot encounter, but it's gotten to the point where I'll almost see a good, solid UFO fighting about once a year. And I've been seeing UFOs in the sky for a year.years now. And honestly, I don't think it's, I don't think that's because I'm special. I just spend a lot of time looking at the sky when most people don't. And I've seen some weird things in the sky. And actually just maybe a month ago or so, I went camping with my parents. And I'm convinced that they all think I'm crazy. And we were talking about UFOs and everything. And I kind of thought, I looked up with the sky. And I just kind of, I don't know, I don't know what I was doing. But I just kind of asked the sky, I said, uh,you think you could show yourself so my family don't think I'm crazy.And not 10 seconds later, not 10 seconds later, this light appeared.And it was not an airplane and it was not a satellite.It got bright and it moved across the sky.It changed directions and then it disappeared.And every one of my family saw it too.
44:44But what was really weird is that I had just thought to myself, you know, show yourself.That doesn't sound to me like an alien astronaut.That sounds to me like something a little bit more woo than just an astronaut, you know, coming to check us out.And I think that whatever Bigfoot is, there's something a little bit more wishy-washy, you know, about what it is.I think there's something having to do with consciousness.I think they can perceive what your intentions are, you know.Yeah, there's definitely some bizarre.are things that go on with Sasquatch for sure. You know, Evan, when I was a kid kind of growing up,
45:27when we talk about aliens, they're always like the green men, the little green man, and thenit eventually became the grays, and they were from a galaxy far, far away, like in Star Wars.And now as I get older, I'm not so sure. I know you've been looking into this. What's your take?What do you think aliens are? I think kind of like maybe with Bigfoot, there isn't reallyone answer. I think maybethere's some that are and some that aren't.I think, well, first I thinkis pretty obvious that there has to be
45:57life somewhere in the universeother than here. You know, the oddsof them crossing that space come hereare pretty small, but I'll still give themthat. Maybe there are someastronauts that are poking in.But it,I don't know, I've seen UFOs
46:14do some very strange things.I saw a UFO one time.But me and my fiancesay we saw this thing shape shift into the moon and then disappear, just completely disappear.That doesn't sound like an astronaut coming in to check up on us. Also, I saw a UFO one time,and I flashed my light at it. It was maybe 100 feet above the trees. And I thought it was a helicopter,but it dawned on me that it made no sound, and I had a flashlight on me, and I flashed it. And I flashed it.with my flashlight, and West, I swear it looked at me.
46:53I could feel it looked at me.And once again, that didn't seem to me like an astral.I don't know if it was an angel.I don't know if it was maybe the ghost of a bird.I don't know what it was.But it certainly didn't seem like a nuts and bolts.You know, like nuts and bolts, flesh and blood.You know, I think there might be a little bit more to that than a simple answer.
47:19Yeah, unfortunately, there are no simple answers in these weird topics.But I really appreciate you coming on, Evan, and sharing the UFO encounters and the Sasquatch crossing down there in Louisiana.I really enjoyed chatting with you, man.Yeah, absolutely.And hey, if you ever make it down to this part of the country, we got the best food in the world.If you ever come down here, bring me up and I'll show you some of the best spots to eat.We'll hang out.Grab a beer.
47:50Sounds good.I might have to take you up on that, but I appreciate it, man.Thank you again for coming on.All right, man.I appreciate it.And that's it for tonight, everyone.Remember, if you've had an encounter, shoot me an email.My email address is Wes at Sasquatch Chronicles.com.
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