Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine - Bach's Flower Remedies

Episode Date: April 5, 2022

In the mid-20th century, Dr. Edward Bach developed a series of diluted tinctures from ingredients of the natural world to combat negative emotions, and by extension, disease. Bach supplied that these remedies were different for everyone, depending on mood. And to find out what you need? Just take an online quiz!Music: "Medicines" by The Taxpayers https://taxpayers.bandcamp.com/

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Some medicines, some medicines that escalate my cop for the mouth. Hello everybody and welcome to Salbones, a marital tour of misguided medicine. I'm your co-host, Jess and Mac Roy. I'm Sydney Mac Roy. Now here's what we do on this show. If you've never listened before, we're going to take into the annals of medical history and find some of the weird, wild, goofy, scary, terrible, no good, very bad, but sometimes funny ways that we've tried to heal people over the years. That's right, Justin. Thanks for that intro to our intro. It's been a few hundred episodes since I have mentioned what the show is.

I thought I'd just pop one off. It gets your first time listening. And hey, maybe this is when you share with people. Say hey, they talk about what the show is at the beginning of this. So you're not going to be lost. Like, what is the show? I think this is a good representation of sobs because, hey, they talk about what the show is at the beginning of this. So you're not going to be lost. Like, what is the show? I think this is a good representation of solvones because so we talk about like stuff that happened in the past that we had wrong.

And then sometimes we talk about stuff that we're still doing now that is wrong. And this one is like, are you? This one spans time. Are you telling me this is a cure from the future? No. No, this one is from the past. This is where we wasted this on a podcast. We're still today. Now, I don't know.

I mean, there's always the possibility that we're talking about something that hasn't ever seemed to work and then we're gonna find out in 100 years does work. We just were doing it wrong or like some wrong part. I don't know You know how like on in the movie medicine man was Sean Connery. It wasn't in the plant. It was in the ants that were on the plant Yeah, I remember that scene from the movie medicine man. I watched You don't remember that for sure. No, I remember because the answer in the sugar and then he figured out it was the ant, but they kept thinking it was it was a it was a plant like no, but the plant wasn't working. It wasn't working. But

why did it work that one time? What are we missing? The cure was in the ants. No, Sydney, every every frame is a pain in medicine. Man, it's all etched into my memory. I remember all of it. It's in the ants, of course. That's why I have this, it's in the ants tattoo. I remember this one here. Medicine Man was a very influential movie on Young Sydney. That was an important movie. For Young Sydney to be like, there are cures out there and I want to find them in cure disease.

From the ants. And it might be in the ants. What is this? A cure for ants? It might be in the ants. What is this? A cure for ants. Okay, we're not talking about the, in this case, we're not talking about the ants. In this case, we are talking about a belief that the cure was in the plants.

Thank you, Jessica, for bringing to my attention box flower remedies. Have you heard of box flower remedies? No, I have not. Box is in like, the composer, but not Bach, but not that guy just spelled the same. Got it. Don't get confused. Got it. This is a different Bach. I don't know if this Bach composed any music, but I think he may maybe play piano. Okay. Bach, not that Bach, Bach. Another one. This is not the one from Bach, we turn her over drive, because that would

be a not towel Bachman. But those names are so high above me. But those names are Bachman. This name is Bach. These are different names. The names of all over the centuries to the end. I'm surprised you didn't know that sometimes they add them on. So Bach becomes Bachman.

That kind of deal. Okay. I didn't know that. I made it up. I'm really sorry. I just want to be smart like you. You know so many things. I don't have that. I made it up. I'm really sorry. I just want to be smart like you. You know so many things. I don't have a computer to read off of.

So I just have to say whatever garbage comes into my mind. Dr. Edward Bach is who we're talking about. He was born in mostly near Birmingham, England in 1886. He studied at the University College Hospital in London and he got it a green public health from Cambridge. So impressive, sounding gentleman. Mm-hmm, correct. You always lure me in with these fancy sounding people.

Well, I get by a while. I like, so some people, and we talk about all kinds of different like figures in medicine and sort of medicine and almost medicine on our show. Some of them start from a very non-traditional kind of route, like from an early age, they knew that real, like traditional medicine was wrong and they had to find a better way.

And then some people sort of like start on a path that sounds like pretty basic and then just go, Rrrr, that they, then they's ag. His initial foray into medicine was really traditional. He worked as a house surgeon, he was a consultant, he was a bacteriologist. So very much just doing the same sorts of things that would have been very common

place for physicians to do in the early 1900s, practicing the same kind of medicine. He worked for 20 years as a, I kept finding this in his bios, a Harley Street doctor, and I was like, obviously this is a reference that I don't understand because a Harley Street doctor. What does that mean? He was a doctor and he worked on a street called Harley Street. No, okay. Well, that one. London. This is a this is apparently the street Harley Street is famous for the number of like healthcare professionals doctors and such that work on this street. And this was true back then. And and such that work on this street. And this was true back then. And even to this day, there are like,

I saw a figure that like 3000 people collectively working in healthcare on this one street. Yeah, I'm looking at a map. It's just like dotted with a bunch of different Harley Street clinic and the Harley Health Village and all kinds of, you're actually college hospital. That is a really, what, look at this. Like collection of, if you just look at Harley Street

on Google Maps, look at this like hospital, hospital, hospital, hospital, hospital, hospital, hospital, that's a wild. It is, and this is a long time standing. It has been this way for a very long time. I like the idea of like sort of just collecting all the, like here's all the healthcare, it's on this street. Although it's not very effective actually,

this is really you need to put the out where people are, you need to bring the medicine to the people, instead of making the people come to the medicine. Yeah, I know that, okay. But anyway, the point is like, if you wanna, if you're gonna get sick, if you wanna get sick, then he wants to get sick.

If you're gonna get sick, if you get sick, if sick happens, you should probably go to Harley Street, it sounds like there should be someone there. This is in the area. So it's called Marlbone. Marlbone, Marlbone, yeah, but that's the same area where two toilet and bigger street is. And the Chicago's Museum and Mamm 2 soats and a lot of hospitals. And again, if you're sick, this seems like a good place to go. Okay. After a while, Bach was becoming disillusioned with medicine. We can all understand that.

If we work in medicine, he just felt like the stuff I'm doing isn't making that big of a difference. And in the early 1900s, you can kind of sympathize like we're talking pre-annabotic era. That's a rough time where like we're so close to getting a lot of stuff and we just aren't quite there yet. It was, I imagine that was a really rough time. If you consider the time period between

the germ theory of disease when we really started to understand and accept that there were microorganisms that you would contract that could kill you or make you very sick. And then like the realization that there was probably a way to kill those microorganisms without killing the human host and then figuring that out and making the antibiotics like that time period must have been so difficult, right?

Cause like it's right there. It's like you know it's right there. You can see them, you can see them in there. What are you at Ditto Vow? You can't see them actually. What about a microscope? Well, okay, yeah, that way you can see him. You can see him in there. What do you do about him? You can't see him actually. With a microscope. Well, okay. Yeah. That way you can see him. He also had he had a brush. How dumb do you think I can? I know we have a lot of fun here. You know that I know you can't see germs on that of my disco, right? Like you're not doing this show with an especially well-trained seal. Like I am a thinking person in the world.

I know you are, honey. Robert Cork, Ring Any Bells. Coke. Yeah. Are you talking about like Coke of Coke's postulates? The guy that came up with my griscope, and he sold sales. Oh.

Who invented sales? Layman Hook. Well, he didn't invent sales. Who invented sales? He certainly didn't invent cells. I mean, I think that's a theological or philosophical question. I need it in invent cells. Robert Hook found cells. That's who I'm thinking of.

Oh, okay. Anyway, somebody looked at a cork. Is that what you're thinking of? That he looked at a cork and then looked at a cork. He looked at a cork. No, okay. He did not invent self. Okay, back to box.

So he had his own brush with death, and this was a big turning point for him and sort of his relationship with practicing medicine. He had this very sudden hemorrhage, and he almost bled to death. His colleagues were able to save him, and they removed this large tumor, and then told him, like at the time,

we probably aren't going to live very well. We don't really understand any of this yet, but you're probably not going to live very long, right? You had a big tumor. We cut it out, but things don't look good. And so, you know, from all this, he thought, well, there must be more to medicine than our understanding because we're not doing all the good we could do. And so he continued with his work and his research, and he started to get better despite the

fact that he was told you probably won't. And he began to like think that his recovery was probably, since the doctors had kind of told him too bad, his recovery was probably more related to something else. And the thing that he connected it to was his own sort of like positive mental attitude His emotional state fixed the physical problem. I believe in this. Like literally fixed in this case a cancer is what I believe. That may be a bit much, but we know there's a link between mental state and the physiology. Okay, I am not saying there isn't a link, but I think we can both agree that having a good, like, optimistic attitude does not cure cancer.

Does it not cure cancer? Honey, it doesn't cure cancer. Okay. This is an important thing to say out loud. All right. I'll reinforce it. Is it important to have a positive mental attitude or be optimistic? Sure. Does it cure cancer? The research. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. And this is where he began to explore this idea of mind-body connection and how could it, he'd use it better,

use it in the craft, use it on the stage, use it in his work. He began working at the Royal London Homeopathic Hospital at this point, obviously in his exploration for alternative healing methods. He thought maybe there was something more to a more holistic approach, looking at the people, you treat the person, you treat the disease, you know, that whole thing, the patch Adam's idea. Anyway, and he had been doing some research into vaccines at the time, actually, this is what he had sort of started with, and he started using some of the principles of homeopathy

to refine his vaccine work. Now, homeopathy is not real. Right. And so again, that's one way of talking about it. He's so close. He's working on vaccines. Yay! Homeopathic vaccines.

So we discussed the basic idea of homeopathy before we've done a whole episode on it. We've talked about this a while. It's still a lot. It's nothing. It's less than nothing. It's some basic principles just because this this informs what he does by the way. Like cures like. So you you call firecrush brain either like that something that looks like it out in nature will fix like a walnut cures a headache because it looks like a brain. That kind of idea.

Or the idea that like if something can make you sick, if you give somebody tiny, tiny, tiny amounts of that, or even not the actual thing, but like the energy of the substance in very small amounts, then it will counteract the thing. So the thing that makes you sick is a thing that can make you better, just given it a different dosage, right? And again, these are all like minuscule amounts of things, delusions of delusions of delusions that you give people. And it's the energy of it that you're really transferring to the person is the concept. Like, you know, you're not really giving the person the substance because by the time you've diluted it that much, it's not really

there, it's the energy of it. As this idea applies to vaccines, because the, and we've talked about this a little bit on the show before, the idea of a homeopathic vaccine is, again, these don't do anything, they're not, they don't work, but this is a thing that exists, and they're called no-sodes. So, basically, instead of taking some sort of inert or harmless substance and diluting it down, and then ingesting it, which is a lot of, that's a lot of homeopathy, take an herb that maybe wouldn't hurt you anyway, and then dilute it till there's nothing there

and drink some water, basically. You could take some sort of infectious or toxic material that causes disease, dilute that down and then ingest that. And so this could be like, a no-sood could be an infected piece of tissue, some sputum, some fecal material, blood. And you drink it.

Yeah, well, but I mean, remember, you're going to dilute it to a point. But you'll know, you know, you'll know that there's a little microgram of doogie in there. And he developed seven bacterial no-sodes this way. So he's still working in the field of bacteriology. He's actually working with germs. But again, he's and you can see where like it sounds sort of similar to a vaccine. Like in a vaccine where you're taking an inactivated virus or piece of a bacteria or protein or something to a listed and immune response in the body so that when you actually encounter the infection out in the world, your body is primed and ready to fight it off.

You can see we're like, well, we're doing the same thing. We're just giving you a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny delusion of the energy of the bacteria that we got from some poop. That you're drinking. That you're drinking. Or putting some drops under your tongue or whatever. And you're probably putting it like a lot of these would also be put in alcohol. So like there's some alcohol there too.

So you can see we're like, it's so close and at the time our understanding of vaccines was still so new. You can see we're like, well, this seems to make sense to me and it seems a lot safer because it doesn't do anything. Right, it is very safe in that regard. So he created these no-sodes. And again, since your goal, you're not trying to listen to immune response with this, this isn't the same thing.

Because it gives transfer the energy of this to someone. I mean, it's, I, this is really about things that are outside the bounds of science. Okay. It's about the energy that you're transferring. Okay. To restore a balance that will allow you to fight off the infection when it happens. With the energy. Yes, because your body is at balance. Homeopathy isn't really related to the disease process as much. Like in homeopathy, the idea isn't like you have diabetes and you have diabetes here are medicines that I use to cure diabetes for both of you. It's more like, okay, yes, you have diabetes,

but in you, it is a result of this imbalance and this energy problem and this personality and disposition and all this. So here is your bespoke tincture. While for you, patient B, it's a mixture of this, this and this. So here's your bespoke tincture. While for you, patient B, it's a mixture of this, this, and this. So here's your bespoke tincture. You know, the idea of customization and personalization, but it's not always a great fit with medicine. And well, but it's hard because like there's a there's an aspect of this. And I think this is why people are drawn to it. There's an aspect

of this. This is true, which is a treatment plan, like an overall plan for, especially like let's talk about chronic disease management, it should be personalized. You're approached to something like diabetes, which can require lifestyle modifications like watching your carbohydrate intake and seeing how much you eat so that you know whether it's how much insulin you're going to take or whatever, right? Like it has to do with how you live your life. That plan should be personalized to you in your life, so that it works for you.

So it's something that you can actually achieve and feel good about and live a healthy life. But that doesn't mean that you need a different insulin necessarily, like both patients might still need insulin. Yes. And homeopathy says all of it is up for grabs because it's really based on you. Right. Does that make sense?

Yes. It's unreal. So, Bach made these no-sodes. Homeopasts were so excited. And actually, I think these are still used by some homeopathic practitioners today. These box seven no-sodes. Hey, more like Quacketishners. I'm homeopathic practitioners today. These box seven no-sodes. Hey, more like Quack Tishners.

Well, it's not, it does not do anything to you. More like you heard them right. Yes, no, I heard you. It was very, it was a good pun. None of the other doctors. You can tell that you liked it from your absolute grim face staring at me blankly. I could tell that you're really wrong with it.

I love it. I could tell. None of the other doctors that he worked with were excited. Homie and Pats were excited. And I mean, this is really where he thought, OK, I need to shift gears. I have been practicing in the wrong world. It is time for me to fully embrace my new path in healing.

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Because we're here to talk to you about pump or nickel bread you can find new episodes on Wednesdays so catch catch the wave welcome crack to the show Sydney you were about to continue with this story of Bach okay so he decided that he wanted to continue to pursue this sort of idea of healing. Okay. This new like mind, body, holistic, energy kind of thing. But he had a couple changes. First, he thought mind and mood influencing the body was the root of all disease, which isn't like, that's not pure homeopathy.

This is its own sort of idea. I mean, like, he's not the only person to think this, but like, very much was like, if you fix the mindset or the mood, you can fix the body. Right. Okay. This is what's confusing to me. Why do you need these textures and no-sodes to do that? Like, why can't you just just think your way out of it?

Because it's about energy, because it's not. I mean, it is sort of like a, it's interesting because it is simultaneously recognizing that you can't just think your way out of mental illness. He's not calling it mental illness, I should say. This is more like a mood. Now, some of these, as we read into what he's gonna develop from this, some of these are, he's describing depression, he's describing anxiety. So, they are what we would call today a mental illness. And so, him saying, you can't just

think your way out of it, you may need to do something to your body to address it. Okay. Yes. We just, we have medicines that alter Neurotransmitters now right like so that's not a wild concept. It's just where he arrives is not really what we would do And he also and he said it for everything like it's not just we need to do something to Influence your brain chemistry so that we can fix your depression. It was also if you have a cold It's probably a mood thing also if you have a cold, it's probably a mood thing. Also, if you have, I mean, again, if you had cancer, it would be a mood thing.

If you had, yeah, all of it has to do with mood, all of it has to do with mindset. All of it has to do with emotional state. And so, no matter what the etiology of disease is, you fix the mind, you can fix the body. And that is the approach that he wanted to take. But the second change he wanted to make is, so if that's the approach, I don't, the bacteria thing doesn't matter.

Like we need to get rid of this idea that whatever is causing the disease is part of it, because it's really about your mind. Like your body will fix itself if we fix your mind. So who cares what bacteria caused it? I don't need these no-sodes. I can find a benign, safe, natural substance that will reset your mood, reset your emotional state and thereby allow your body to fix itself and cure all your diseases. So away with the bacteria, I'm going to go search for something prettier. So, after trying to do this work in London for a couple of years, he decided I need to go

to the countryside where I can be among nature and find these natural things. So, in 1930, he took his assistant Nora Weeks and moved to the English countryside to find the remedies that he believed grew out in nature. And this is where he began to develop his flower remedies. He would spend all the warm months out, basically, like finding different flowers, collecting them, turning them into these tinctures, which I'll talk about the process of. And then he would spend the cold months basically consulting with people and telling them which of the their floral needs should be met. By 1932 he had found what he called the 12 major remedies. They're like 12 core remedies. He added seven more what he would call helpers the

following year and then in 1936 he moved to a cottage that was called Mount Vernon in Oxfordshire to round it out with 19 more. And that was like the, that was it. That was the catalog of flower remedies that he collected between 1930 when he started in 1936 when he finished all this work. How would he go about the process? So you've got a flower, you need to know if it works. What's the best way to find out? Well, but like, you're trying to cure a specific emotional state.

Find someone with that problem and then have them eat it. Well, then you're going to have to leave the country side. You're going to knock on doors. You're going to ask people a bunch of questions. Try to get in that mental state yourself. That's what he did. So he would He would watch beaches and after that that a climactic scene with Barbara Herschien and Bitmindler He would like God I'm so sad now. I think I gave myself a committee of from outside. I am at beaches

Maybe this tulip will help. I gotta eat it Basically, I mean he would take on the negative emotional state that he was looking for a cure for, for which he was looking for a cure. So he'd get really whatever. And I'll go through, there are many different, it's not just sad, like there are a bunch of different emotional states. Oh, I know, honey, I know. Well, I mean, he did, I mean, like, although I mean, contrary to the evidence for the last two years, there are mental states other than that. I know that I know that when it comes to emotional intelligence, you have needed Daniel Tigers teaching much more than I. So steady hand. So anyway, he would then try out his various tinctures and figure and see which one fixed it, his own negative emotional state.

And then one by one, he just continued to feel the emotion, lead to the illness, try the flowers, and then... He just had to hope that he didn't actually think about a great fox truck, part two in the red. He just completely pulled himself out of the funk. Parts of the way he would do this, by the way, in case you're curious, is you would take the flower that you had collected,

and you would expo, this is the best way. There are two methods. The first method is like the natural better method, but sometimes this is hard to do depending on where you live and what time of year it is. You collect the flower, you want to expose it to the sun for three hours while it is floating in pure water. So like basically he would have bowls. So you have a bowl filled with pure water and you just put the flour in it and make sure it's sitting outside in the sunlight for three hours. Okay. If you couldn't do that for some reason, like the sun's not out, whatever, you could boil it in pure water for an hour and a half. Then you would filter out any of the flour. You're done with the flour. You have removed the energy essence, whatever from the flower at this

point. Okay. All you need is the water. So you just collect the water that has now been influenced by the flower. This is called the mother tincture. Okay. Then you take two drops of this mother tincture and you add it to brandy. That was his alcohol of choice. Other people had used other alcohols as they replicated these, but Brandy was what he believed worked best. So you take two drops, you add it to Brandy. This is the remedy. And when you want to use it, you take two drops of that and you can add that to a treatment bottle along with a couple more teaspoons of Brandy and 30 ml of water. So you can see where this is getting diluted and diluted and diluted.

There is still a good bit of brandy in it. And then you take four drops or two sprays, depending on what form it's in, four times a day. Okay. Of whatever your tincture is. And you could make treatment bottles with multiple things. So like the idea was you have sort of your shelf

with all your remedies and you're like, oh, I have two different emotional states that I need fixed today. So I'll grab a bottle of this, put two drops of this, I'll grab a bottle of this, put two drops of this, add the brandy, add the water, spray, or drop, whatever. As he collected them, he would write and lecture about his remedies as you can imagine. It wasn't receiving a lot of support from the traditional medical community or any regulating bodies, which like any time he tried to advertise, he would

usually get in trouble. Like, no, you can't actually say that. That's not actually, we don't have any science that backs us up and you doing it to yourself doesn't count. The only published work that remains is the 12 healers and other remedies, which is like his main book that he wrote of his remedies and why they work and what they do and blah blah blah and how to make them because he would burn his outdated writings and stuff as he moved along. Like basically I at this research took me in a wrong direction or I don't need it anymore. I'm gonna get rid of it. He was just so worried about someone being misinformed by his work. He wanted to make sure it was just

all the really good, true dank nuggets. This is exactly it. He didn't want wrong theories clouding what he finally figured out. Like, this is all you need to know, basically. All that other stuff got me here, but you don't need to know that other stuff because what you need to know is where we are Like even his traditional medical writings and stuff because like before he started practicing homeopathy and the flower remedies and all that He was doing just like the regular medicine of the day. All that stuff's gone Just burned it done with it moving on He finished his work in as I said in

He finished his work in, as I said, in 1936, and sadly, he died that same year. Like he collected it, he published it, and he passed away. I don't know if that's sad or not, right? Well, I mean, it's sad in the sense that he's a human. It's like when people die penniless, it's like, good job. It's hard. If you read about him, he was clearly well-loved and like sort of a Renaissance guy who like I don't know art music Flowers, I'm not glad he died. I don't know like he got to finish his great work. He was probably a really interesting guy to talk to

It's unfortunate that this became like an alternative Medicine that people might seek out instead of actual medicine that could help them get better. Yes. Which is always the case with these things, right? That's the problem. That's the opportunity cost. Is what we would say.

It's the opportunity cost of seeking out real treatment. And it, well, and the other thing that's hard to is that we talk about this on the show a lot. People who set out to make money and were willing to do or say whatever, like in the medical world. And you see that today, you'll see supplements and stuff being pushed

and you know that person is not, like they do not mean well. They're just trying to make money. Yes. And then there are people like this who are like the true believers. He really believed this would help. We thought you think, we think. I think, this is the impression I get. And it's harder for me to,

I mean, I'm not saying like, so we should cut them slack and buy their flower remedies. Certainly not. But I do think from his writings and his work, he was a true believer. He really thought he was helping people with this. His work lived on at Mount Vernon. His assistant Nora continued to make the remedies and stay there and sort of actually obtain the licenses for all of them to keep this work alive and still being sold and still like passing along these ideas like shit.

Because again, these true believers, people who really thought that while they didn't have the science to back it up, that this stuff worked, you can still visit there today and buy these flower remedies. I think you can buy them online too, but like, they're still being made there. They're still being in that same tradition. As far as I could tell, they're still using the same methods to create this stuff. And like if you visit and you can learn about him and you can learn about all those flower remedies, there's a cafe called Norris Kitchen that you can visit and like you can have a bagel

or a wrap or some Prosecco, I think it's kind of cool that they sell alcohol too. So it sounds like fun, like a fun crowd. Anyway. I love wrap. Anyway, you can still visit there if you're interested in learning more about this, I guess, called a fun crowd. Anyway, I love wrap. Anyway, you can still visit there if you're interested in learning more about this, I guess, called the box center. I thought it would be interesting to see some of these remedies. I just chose several. You can look, they're

all listed, you know, if you're interested. I took a quiz on their website to see which remedies would be best for me. And they were supposed to email me my answer and they never did it. Sounds like you need one to help you with patience. I'm very sad though because as I did this and I gave it my actual real email address, I thought, what are you doing? Don't do this, Sydney. I'll do this, Sydney. And I did it.

And now I know I'm going to get, like I don't know what emails I'm I'm gonna get But I never got my flower remedy list like what what should I be taking? So there's one Clomatus which is for There's a human indication and a pet indication by the way, so because you can also use these for pets The human indication is when you have a tendency to live in your own dream world with little interest in the real world Accident prone daydreaming Um, yeah help me and they have like on the site you can read what Bach wrote about it So he wrote those who are a dreamy drowsy not fully awake no great interest in life quiet people

Not really happy in their present circumstances living more in the future than in the present living in hopes of happier times When their ideals may come true. It's not very poetic, but anyway, you take this. For an animal, it would be if they have no apparent interest in the world around them, animals that sleep all the time have trouble paying attention or seem to live more in a dream than in the present. So all cats, like all, need this, apparently. You can use Heather. It will help when you are preoccupied with your own ailments and problems.

Overly and animals who are overly concerned with companionship and very demanding for attention, constant barking. So dogs. So this is the one for dogs. This dog is so needy. It always wants attention. Live your own life.

Those who are always seeking companionship, I assumed this would be me, I hate being alone. You can use white chestnut when your mind is cluttered with thoughts or mental arguments, you may be unable to sleep because of the thoughts. I thought maybe this would help you. I know sleep is sometimes an issue, so you can have some white chestnut.

Anyway, and there's also like a rescue remedy that has five different things in it. Be careful with that powerful stuff. Yeah, it's for emotional emergencies. Oh, yeah. It's got impatience, star of Bethlehem, rock rose cherry plum and clomatus. They've got remedies, like I said,

for pets and kids as well. And they're all used the same way. So the idea is like you buy these bottles, their sprays are their droplets, like either way. Like you see they're a little dropper and you would take a couple droplets or it's a spray bottle and you just spritz it in your mouth. I think that all of them though,

you're supposed to add, again, like they will walk you through how to dilute them and make it what is called a treatment bottle. So you're kind of buying the bottle to keep on yourself and then create your own treatment out of periodically. There is no actual piece of the flower or anything in it by the time it arrives, but I do believe they still make them in brandy.

So there is brandy in there. Hey, all right, let's do that going for us. And I guess you can also take a quiz online and see what flowers you need, but I never got an email so I don't know You may not find out I should say again There is no evidence that these would do I mean anything other than that they do have brandy in them

And so I would be hesitant to give them to my children personally Because of the brandy Now if they have extracts that are mixed in, and I could have researched that, maybe they make some without brandy. But I generally do not give my children alcohol. Generally. I recommend you don't either. As long as we're at it, it shouldn't give your pets alcohol either. Yeah. Yeah. So I would say be cautious of that. There's brandy in them. Otherwise,

there is no scientific evidence that flower remedies, treat or cure anything. And I would encourage you as always, if you are ill, please go talk to a medical professional. Please do not seek out unproven, unscientific, no matter how nice they might smell or how beautiful they are, little location in which they were found or how lovely this story, which is a lovely story. Despite all that, but still not medicine, please go seek out a medical provider

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