Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine - Osmosis Jones

Episode Date: August 7, 2020

This week on Sawbones, we close out the #MaxFunDrive with a FAR too thorough examination of history's only medical animated comedy in which Bill Murray barfs on Molly Shannon. Let's talk about Osmosis... Jones.Music: "Medicines" by The Taxpayers

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Starting point is 00:00:56 Some medicines, some medicines that escalate my cop for the mouth. Wow! Hello everybody and welcome to Saul Bonesones Marital Tour of Miscite at Minnesota and I'm the co-host Justin McRoy. I'm Sydney McRoy. Well we've made it said we're in the final stretch of the Maximum Fun Drive. That's right. You've come to the end of the road. I was gonna sing into the road by doing that on another podcast so that seemed. Yeah you don don't want to repeat yourself. Now this is the end of the road, though. It's the end of our pledge drive. If you've been waiting to the last minute, you have found it maximumfund.org for its last join is the address where you can go to pledge. Even as little as five bucks a month to help keep our show and the other shows on the
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Starting point is 00:02:23 Please, if you haven't done it, take a couple of minutes right now. Go to maximumfund.org for its last join and come on board. Justin, this is the first episode of this show that we've done that kind of grossed me out. Isn't that interesting? We have a special, this is a special show. Yeah, to finish out, Max Fundrive, we're this is a special show. Yeah, to finish out Max Von Drive, we're doing something a little different. And this has been something we have been trying to do for some time.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I was threatening Sydney with it for quite some time and she didn't want to do it. And then we were about to sit down. We finally got, well, let me tell you what it is first. We are going to sort of rate review, explore, holistically discuss the 2001 seminal film, Osmosis Jones. And I know you're excited. I'm excited too. You shouldn't be but you shouldn't be. I mean you can be It's allowed but not understood. Yes, and we know that As always lately a very difficult news cycle. We completely understand that we'll be back to our regularly scheduled sabote next week
Starting point is 00:03:42 I'm sure But we just wanted to give a little break, a little oasis for you here. And osmosis oasis. And osmosis oasis, thank you, Sidney, what a mouthful. That feels nice though. Nice semblance. Yeah, seller door osmosis oasis. Very pleasant sounds.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I prefer osmosis oasis. Osmosis oasis. Okay. So this movie... Which in order... I would like to say that in order to do this show, since we were going to do this a while ago and then decided we needed to focus on more serious matters, I have now had to see this movie twice.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Yes, we were going to do it and then our nation was consumed in the fires of protest. And we thought, this is a weird time to do an osmosis Jones episode, so we canned it. That was like a month ago. It is more than a month ago. More than a month ago. It's been a while. It's still a weird time to do an osmosis Jones episode,
Starting point is 00:04:42 but we kind of figured, we've already washed this movie once American needs a rest. We'll watch it again. We'll talk about it because there's got to be, we have to find space for all of these things in life, right? We have to find space to speak out about the things that matters, and then I guess we also have to find space to watch osmosis Jones twice. The second time around forcing your space to watch Osmosis Jones twice. The second time around forcing your children to watch it with you in the hopes that they would enjoy it, but also understanding why they didn't.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Your boy also did take a little trip to Dreamland, the first time we watched it for the last 20 minutes or so. But now you know the whole story. Now I know the entire epic tale of Osmosis Jones and Dricks was by Chris Tuforrock and David Hyde Pierce. That's right. You could absolutely carbon date this movie
Starting point is 00:05:37 within a good like week to a week and a half just by its cast. Bill Murray isn't it as well. And let me say. But that could be any point in the last 40 years. I don't usually, and I think this might be a symptom of being a parent. I am usually not excited about watching anything animated when I don't have to.
Starting point is 00:06:02 I watch plenty of animation with our children. And some of it is quite good, some of it I would celebrate, but generally speaking, when it's just the two of us, I don't like to watch animated things. I'm gonna watch grown-up stuff. And when it started, and it was- You like to watch adult movies.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Well, not adult movies. When it started, and it starts live action, because we've got a meat-build Murray, Bill Murray and I thought oh Bill Murray's here. Well, this can't be so bad Right. I love Bill Murray Right and because Bill Murray is whose body we're going to spend the rest of the film inside It's called the city of Frank This is where Bill Murray lives And this is where Bill Murray lives.
Starting point is 00:06:50 And I love Bill Murray, but he is as gross as a human can be in this movie. The basic idea, I feel like we should just like outline. We can't tear through the plot. We've got a lovingly dissect beat by beat. Or else what are we going to get at top? Well, I just mean the premise. The premise is this movie has like two sides that you're seeing. You are seeing the live action side with Bill Murray and his daughter, Bill Murray, a father who's I would say not winning any awards for father of the year right now and certainly not concerned
Starting point is 00:07:21 with his own health and safety. And then the inside of his body, the inside of Frank's body, where we watch all of the various cells and germs and whatnot interact. And I don't want to spoil, I guess, if you want to go through it bit by bit. But that part is animated. Obviously that is. Yes, it's not like inner space. We're not like inside it, like little humans in there. That would be interesting too. Chris Rock is a white blood cell. Yes, Chris Rock's a white blood cell.
Starting point is 00:07:53 He's a sort of, basically a cop. Body cop. And Dricks, the cold pill is sort of like a... He's supposed to be any sort of, uh, over the counter, cold medicine you would buy that's actually, it's got one capsule, but it's got a bunch of different medications in it to do different things. I don't think, I mean, I, he could be any number of them. The chemical name for him that they throw out isn't really one thing. It's like a combination of a bunch of different things. So, you know, and I do like, that is one of the things I like, if I'm watching
Starting point is 00:08:33 this from a standpoint of medical accuracy, is that our, so our character Frank, Bill Murray, gets sick or has some symptoms of illness early on and takes the cold pill. And I feel like in the movie, what we understand the cold pill to be doing inside the human body is actually at first fairly true to life. There's like a irritation. So the gimmick of the movie is Frank's body is presented like a city called the city of Frank So when he's got a sore throat during the you know throat district of the body and there's burning buildings Because his throat is sore and inflamed and Dricks shows up with like an ice cannon and basically like blast the whole throat
Starting point is 00:09:20 Nums the pain of his sore throat. Yes, and I thought that was like a nice representation. So it's like that's that he's not actually fixing anything. And in fact, they even represent that further because the premises that in the very beginning, I can't even believe I'm describing this. I am a medical doctor. In the very beginning of the movie, Frank is eating a hard boiled egg covered in mayonnaise in front of a monkey at the zoo. And the monkey seals his egg and he wrestles the monkey through the cage to get the egg back
Starting point is 00:09:54 and then eats it. After it's been in the monkey's mouth and on the ground in the monkey's cage and in doing this truly heinous act that I have to watch on TV, he gets a virus. Yeah. A very bad virus is introduced into Frank. And it's funny, because again, I thought this was kind of a good, like I was hoping there were things
Starting point is 00:10:19 the kids could learn from it. So they're used to germs coming in the body. Germs come in all the time. They joke about how often Frank gets germs and how he needs to learn how to wash his hands before he eats, which is true. We encounter lots of germs that our body is good at just kind of taking care of, right? Like no big deal. But this time, this germ, this virus, But this time, this germ, this virus. Thrax. Is a big bad guy. Voice by, you were friend of my Larry Fishburn.
Starting point is 00:10:49 He's our friend? Well, personal friend? There was just that one season. I love you more. When the guy said he got flowers from Larry Fishburn. That's right. Remember that? I don't think that was ever proven.
Starting point is 00:11:00 No, that was never proven. But. So this Thrax, I think, I mean, obviously, the name sort of sounds like anthrax, but I don't. That's a chemical, right? No, no, that would be a gem. He could be anthrax. But he could be, but I don't get the sense,
Starting point is 00:11:17 the things he does to the body don't really make sense to me as anyone infectious organism. I feel like they very intentionally were keeping that vague or else they just didn't know, I don't know. But like my sense was this is supposed to be a bad virus that probably doesn't really exist as this one thing. It's an amalgam. I wanna give you some background first
Starting point is 00:11:40 before we get into the plot of the film. As to like why this movie exists? Sort of, yes, um, in sort of development health for a long time. The animated parts were done, okay? And that, you know, they referred to Frank, but they, they didn't have a Frank or the live action sequences. So the animated stuff, uh, which was all directed by Tom Sido, who had done a ton of Disney stuff. Like he worked on Little Mermaid being the bass, Aladdin, Lion King, you know, a bunch of
Starting point is 00:12:13 those. And he was the animation director. He directed the animated portions. They were done. And then they still had not done the live action. So it sort of like languished in development how for a long time. And I think it's worth saying that the animated parts, I think function better than the live action portions
Starting point is 00:12:31 of the movie, which were directed by the Farley brothers of, you know, something about Mary, Kingpin, now Green Book. They did Green Book. myself in Irene, I think just Peter and Farley did. But so they directed those parts, the live action part. They're credited as the sole directors of this movie. But that's why the live action parts feel like a Farley Brothers comedy
Starting point is 00:13:04 and the animated parts feel like an animated film. They're tonally, completely different. It is very disjointed. And I don't, this was my key question. I want to try to focus on the medical accuracies because there's a medical show. But my, that was my key question. It's like, why was this movie made in terms of like,
Starting point is 00:13:25 who was it for? I don't know who this movie's for, because the animated stuff skews younger most of the time. Like, it's more aimed at a younger audience. Although there are moments where there are like jokes and things like, they're in a club at one point, the white blood cell and the cold pill're in a club at one point, the white blood cell and the cold pill are in a club that's taking place in a zit. And in the club there
Starting point is 00:13:52 are like dancers that are supposed to look like they're kind of scantily clad. And it like all of it felt like okay well now who is this is not aimed at little little kids. Right. Because they would have no contacts for what is happening here. So this is aimed at a slightly like older audience. There are some truly ghoulish deaths too. Like some of the cells getting killed by thracks are incredibly disturbing. Yeah. Thrax is scary.
Starting point is 00:14:20 I mean, well, and Thrax, what you learn about Thrax early on, and this is the thing that, like, for all the moments where I felt like, huh, I see what they're trying to do. This is a real scientific concept, like a real medical concept, and they're trying to represent it in kind of a fan'sful way. For all that, Thrax is the number one thing that doesn't make sense to me. I don't know what disease this is, and ostensibly, Thrax has been passed along. He kind of gives this history as to who the different people throughout the country he's infected are and killed.
Starting point is 00:14:51 And kill the first one being a little girl. Yes. And he says that. And luckily, the way that it's worded, our children did not pick up on that. Yeah, because that would have been the rest of the night for us. Was she, what does she look like? Did she see my May, where her parents nice? Like, that would have been the entire resident. Yes. But, but somehow the way he's doing it is by collecting these DNA beads. Beats. I, the from different people and once he takes their DNA
Starting point is 00:15:20 bead from their hypothalamus, then they can, then he can kill them. Okay, you're gonna plot. Well, I'm just saying, this was the one thing where I was like, I don't even know what you're trying to represent from a medical standpoint with this part of it. I wanna finish to the stage a little bit more, and then we'll talk about this movie. Okay. A lot of the film and the medical inaccuracies.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Or accuracies, excuse me. There are some. There are some. The Warner Brothers feature animation was having a very bad time financially. They had to choose between two projects that really were going to make or break the division. There was a project for Indirectory they had worked with before and the other one was Osmosis Jones. The one that they'd worked with before was someone who had just delivered a hit to the studio, but they still went with Osmosis Jones. What was the other one? The last movie they had made with this director
Starting point is 00:16:19 was Brad Bird, who directed the Iron Giant for one of Street Gen. The movie that he pitched to them, that he then took across the street to Disney, was the Incredibles. Ooh. This movie on the other hand that Warner Brothers decided to bet the farm on cost $70 million and brought in a whopping 14 million. This is a gigantic, a gigantic flop.
Starting point is 00:16:45 So they lost money. Unmitigated disaster. I, well, it's really, I mean, like I said, I don't know who this, there are parts of it that feel like they're trying to educate kids about the body for a minute. And then it's like, then there's some jokes, which are aimed at slightly older kids,
Starting point is 00:17:04 because little, little kids wouldn't get them You're right. There's a lot of broad humor. That's like very gross. There's a lot of body humor. I Mean I find I find the whole film pretty gross pretty gross. There's a lot of gross parts It's actually pretty hard to watch it's some of it the live action stuff is gross because Bill Murray engages in some of the most wretched behavior. We're gonna get there. Let me finish my stage setting, okay? Okay, well this is a soft one. $14 million.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Still though, this is wild. I don't know if you know this. Year after this movie came out, there was a spin off animated series, which I will not make you watch on the kids WB call not watch. Ozzy and Dricks get this a mosquito sucks Dricks and Ozzy out of Frank's body and places
Starting point is 00:17:59 them into a teenager named Hector and they then battle viruses inside Hector's body for two seasons, this show ran, Aussie and Drix. I, yeah. So that actually did happen, despite being a catastrophic failure featuring the voice talents of Phil Lamar, who has done the voice of basically Chris Raup back. No, Chris wasn't along for the ride. And Jeff Bennett, a who, he voice Johnny Bravo and Dexter's dad and Smothery will, anyway, I want to talk about this movie in detail. But before that, I'm going to need you to follow me to the Billy Department. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:18:51 The medicines, the medicines that ask you to lift my car before the mouth. Okay, so Osmosis Jones began, you've already summed up the first literally 10 minutes of this movie and it's Bill Murray eating egg that a monkey still. It's so gross. It's so gross that he's putting the mayonnaise on the egg and then the monkey stealing the egg and then he steals the egg and his poor daughter. This is, okay, this is part of the, I don't feel like something about Mary had this level of like depravity
Starting point is 00:19:33 where we have this adult man who has lost his wife the mother of his daughter. At some point in the past, due to sickness that they sort of insinuate was brought on by unhealthy lifestyle. Yes. Like that is said several times. Yes. Like if you guys took better care of yourself, maybe mom would still be here.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Yes. I mean, she explicitly says that mom would still be alive if you guys had a better diet. So I don't know. I mean, it's never made clear what exactly happened, but that definitely is is like the daughter says this, but in the face of this from his child, he is eating buckets of chicken. And the he wants to take her to a wing festival. Um, he's just, just like so in her face about his complete lack of self care. He slams beers with a shirtless chrysalia wearing a really tragic wig, which that was part was good. Uh, meanwhile, we meet Oz Moses Jones, who is a cop that has
Starting point is 00:20:40 been demoted because he, uh, took some sort of action that forced Frank to throw up again. He saw, he, Frank ate a bad oyster at a school science fair. No, that's later. This is, are you talking about, was that a flashback? Yeah. Oh, okay, got it, got it, got it. Could you not follow this movie?
Starting point is 00:21:03 No, it was so confusing, Sid. Yes, it was a flashback. Frank ate a bad oyster at a school science fair, and it had a bad germ on it. And in order to save his life, Osmosis Jones made him throw up, but he threw up all over his kid's teacher. And then his kid's teacher got a restraining order against him as a result. And he also got fired from his job at the P-Soup factory. For throwing up on his kids teacher.
Starting point is 00:21:28 That part is really challenging. He accidentally throws up on the teacher and she literally files a restraining order against him. That's not how that works. Later preventing him from going on the school field trip with his daughter. There's a very strange part. The kid who there's a kid whose project is about oysters and he like tried to clean them
Starting point is 00:21:46 in the ocean for six months or whatever. And Frank says that so they should be okay to eat and the kid says, well, if my high pottenews is correct. And I'm like, um, well, they say later he's a bad student. Oh, he's the joke. The project was bad. Okay. She says, I think he probably started it last night But we'll just give him an A anyway
Starting point is 00:22:10 Yeah, the whole joke is that this kid doesn't it's not good at this I challenge that because Hot news line is delivered completely straight not in any way a joke and is is not a joke No, the kid didn't know it was a joke. He thought it was the right one So someone wrote the word you didn't think the whole thing is imp is not a joke. The kid didn't know it was a joke. He thought it was the right one. So someone wrote the word. You didn't think the whole thing is imp. This is not a documentary. There's someone's writing the words for the child.
Starting point is 00:22:32 And how I partner is not the word. Anyway, okay. So we may not suppose that Jones has been devoted to patrol duty. He wants to be like big, a, there's better assignment in the body. He's assigned to the teeth blasting like yeah they're keep yes and
Starting point is 00:22:49 he wants he I don't know what job he wants but he wants a bigger job belongs maybe right so the the filthy egg allows in thracx which is a virus and all of the city of Frank is gonna turn into upheaval. In part because of the mayor mayor Fleming voiced by Will Schattener has a re-election campaign against Tom Kalonic who is voiced by Ron Howard and the two of them are basically the mayor doesn't want to handle it well because he's
Starting point is 00:23:23 afraid of losing his re-election gaming. Yeah. I do think, so Thrax initially, as he appears, and he's killing other types of cells, there are moments where he uses his long pointer finger to infect people. A lot of times, they just sort of melt into goo, which like is not totally off base, the idea that after a cell is infected, it dies. But then sometimes you can see he infects things and the flames that spring up around it, because it's like when he infects it, it bursts into flames. The flames look like little viral particles bursting up into
Starting point is 00:24:04 the air. And I actually thought that was really creative as a way of saying like, when a virus infects a cell, it can turn the cell into a virus-making machine. And then it'll pump out more virus. And I feel like they did a good job with some, like, there's some really, like, creative visual representation of aspects of an infection and an immune response and that kind of thing. One I like is actually the next beat.
Starting point is 00:24:30 So the track starts making Frank feel bad. It takes a cold pill, which is Drix, who's a very straight lace sort of by the book's cop, Osmosis Jones is more rebellious play by his own rules, kind of classic buddy cop pairing. They start pumping people for information, looking for more information on Thrax. And one of them that they talk to is a, we would call them a confidential informant or a CI, but in the world of the movie,
Starting point is 00:25:00 they, it's a flu vaccine. A flu vaccine, to King. So what they've done is I've used this similar analogy in past shows. The idea that the way that a vaccine works is you take, in this case, the flu virus, and you have made it harmless. It can't make you sick, but it tells your immune system how to attack the real flu virus. It has the right pieces of it so that your immune system will learn how to fight off the flu virus when the real deal shows up. And that's exactly what this is.
Starting point is 00:25:35 This is, it looks like a virus and he's like hanging out supposedly with a criminal element because he's, he looks like he belongs there. But secretly, he's in forming, I mean, literally in forming the immune system on viruses. It's a very, I mean, it's like somebody really understood all that to make that connection. I was impressed with that. And then we head over to the hot new club in town, the Zit, which is where Thrax is set up shop, Ozzy and Dricks go into the club, there's a dance sequence for absolutely no reason. The performer there is none of them,
Starting point is 00:26:23 Josie and Kid Rock themselves. Kid Rock of course, Kidney Rock is what he's going by. I got nothing for all that. The basically, there was, this is the zit that we alluded to earlier. There's a big kind of not a shoot out, but a standoff really where Dricks blows the place up, Zit pops Frank shoots a Zit on his the teacher's face. Yeah he was begging to be allowed to go along on the school field trip and then
Starting point is 00:26:55 his Zit popped in her face. Well we're making Bill Murray's character Frank seemed less contemptible than he is in the film. He's a truly rich person. Yeah and he's very gross. I mean it's. I mean, I can't underline how the whole thing is very gross. I mean, animated and live action scenes. But they do have like, when Osmosis Jones goes into the Zit Club, he disguises himself as a pathogen. And it's to like echo the pliability of these cells that they don't really have one form a lot of the time
Starting point is 00:27:28 They're not like perfect circles or oval or whatever we envision cells to be there sort of glob globular right No, I mean, I thought that was kind of cool like to show the I mean and like later like he kind of At one point divides and reattaches himself. The animation is cool in that sense. Yeah, they do a neat job with the aesthetics of it of making the organic stuff is all very like goopy, but anything sort of inorganic has a sort of cooler retrofuturism kind of like curve lines and very clean and futuristic looking at its neat.
Starting point is 00:28:05 They have a scene where Osmosis Jones accidentally shoots his whatever, I don't know what the weapon is supposed to be, whatever it is. Yeah. And instead of hitting the germs he's chasing, he hits a nerve and it causes a cramp because the nerve continues to fire over and over again, contracting the muscle and causing a cramp. And I thought that was, again, like, there are parts of this, that's, that was so weird to me about it. Like there are parts of this that are like, oh, that's a useful analogy to teach somebody about some part of how the human body works. And then other times a cold pill blows up or grenade and that's what you make sure it's explode.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Or like, or they have, there's pollen is a big theme. Frank is allergic to pollen and so pollen can be used at any time to make him sneeze. And so like people have pollen and they can just deploy it as needed. But like at one point that's represented by like a damn that's holding back snot breaking. Gross. Let's just discuss it. And accurate. So basically Ozzy gets fired and Dricks quits because of the zit explosion causing such
Starting point is 00:29:21 a kerfuffle. And the one joke that I did enjoy is when Drix is forced to leave the body, he gets on a bus that says it's headed to the bladder because he's gonna get peed out, which I kind of enjoy. Because he is just a 12 hour cold pill, so he's gotta move on.
Starting point is 00:29:43 And Ozzy is, they go into a, I thought this was kind of neat. They go into a, Ozzy goes to a movie theater to sort of like, while away at the time. They think Drac's is dead by the Thrax's dead, by the way. Drac's the guy from Granite's Galaxy. Thrax is dead, they think. They thought they blew him out, what does it?
Starting point is 00:30:04 Yeah, so Ozzy goes to the the movies and the movies are you see the posters on the wall as he walks in and one is like the exam. The other is your worst nightmare, which is his daughter marrying the chrysalade character. One is that girl at the bus stop. And it's just
Starting point is 00:30:24 dreams basically is the is the movies that are playing stop. And it's just dreams, basically, is the movies that are playing for the different cells or like dreams that he's having. Okay, can I just say too? We kind of skimmed over this part, but you get some backstory on Osmosis Jones as the two are talking throughout the film. And this was also, I thought kind of a funny thing too.
Starting point is 00:30:41 He talks about his ancestors coming over on the umbilical cord. Which, I mean kind of a funny thing too. He talks about his ancestors coming over on the umbilical cord. Mm-hmm. Which, I mean, that's accurate. Yeah, it's on the brough. Oh, well, I mean, in a sense, they don't literally come through the umbilical cord. But you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:30:57 Like, all the cells are ancestors of the original cells. Like, or your, all the cells came from the ancestor cells. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like that, I thought that was kind of clever. They talk about, he is a white blood cell and he talks about his time growing up in somewhere in the GI tract. And I mean, as sensibly, he could have come
Starting point is 00:31:18 from lymphatic tissue somewhere there. Like, I don't know, there's just, there are things like that that are quite accurate. Which is what makes, as we're getting towards the end of the film here, so frustrating. Dracks, drag, drag, his name is Thrax. It is not Dracks. Thrax reemerges and Ozzie realizes that because he sees the theater catching on And thus begins these strangest like 20 minutes conclusion to a film. I mean, absolutely. So, okay, on the Thrax end of things. Let me handle the Thrax end of things.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Okay, yes, please. This is the stuff I have expertise on. Yes. This is where, this is like I have said, this is part of what bothered me. Thrax's goal was to kill Frank faster than he killed his previous victims to make it into the medical textbooks. So he gets to, the way he does this is he gets to the hypothalamus. Is it, is it, is a medical expert like Guinness, right?
Starting point is 00:32:18 Like you only worry about the one that kills people the fastest. That's the exactly. So he gets to the hypothalamus with the with his goal is if I can break it open and steal it, it looks like a giant circulating piece of DNA. Yeah. Like a giant double helix, but like it's the same size as or it's larger than the cells themselves. So like we're already. Beed of DNA. Well, but we're already like an adenine or thymine or. Yeah, but like no, but the DNA is larger than the cells. Yeah, it doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:32:51 It's just a metaphor. It's just a metaphor. Right. Like we've left the realm of these are supposed to actually represent things that are happening in the body. And there's just this giant piece of DNA. He breaks it open and steals a bead from the DNA, adds it to his bead of other people he's killed to his chain of other people he's killed. And he takes off and then the body
Starting point is 00:33:11 starts heating up. And the way he escapes then is once again, he deploys pollen, makes Frank sneeze, gets shot out of his mouth with the sneeze. And onto his daughter's eye. Yes. Now at this point in the live action film, where his Frank ended up in the hospital. Yes. Frank was going on his wing trip with his buddy, Chris Elliott, because he was demanding that his daughter go with him to a wing show. And his daughter was like, I really want to go camping. And you're just you're really letting me down non-stop dad. I'm not going with you.
Starting point is 00:33:48 So Frank and Chris Elliott are drinking and driving and going to a wing show in Buffalo when Frank like passes out because he has a hundred and six degree fever. Yes, he's incredibly hot. He goes to the hospital and just by chance his daughter school bus happens to be passing while he's pulled off the side of the road School bus stops the daughter sees so she jumps in the car with Chris Elliott right and they drive to the hospital too This is how the daughter ends up there and so he sees them a daughter and so Ozzie and Thracs are basically like doing battle on the eyeball of the daughter, right? And on to her eyelash. I want to be clear about this.
Starting point is 00:34:31 In this movie we were watching, the two leads are now battling on the eye lash of another character in the movie, right? Meanwhile, Bill Murray legally dies. Yes, they, they are coding him. The doctors doing everything they can. It is a, it's like a fairly intent like his, he dies. Why his daughter looks on. Yes, his temperature hits one away for, for some reason they have decided like the
Starting point is 00:35:01 moment his temperature hits one away, that's it. Bam, You die. He dies. And his heart stops. And by the way, his heart stops. Well, I won't get into nothing that they're doing to respond to this makes any sense. Let me just say that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:16 They're just like bagging him and bagging him and bagging him. But no one has done anything about his rhythm at any point. What I'm saying is they're running the code wrong. But. Well, that's true. They're based, and then he flatlines and they're like, dead. Dead.
Starting point is 00:35:34 I'm calling it, and it's like, we haven't done anything. They do, well, okay, well that kind of sets the scene. So he, I suppose this show gets the DNA B back from thrax. And then thrax basically a false eyelash rips off of his daughter's face with thrax still clinging to it and it falls into a cup of alcohol and kills thrax. And again, an extremely ghoulish fashion.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Well, it's important that at any code, you have a tray with a giant glass jar of rubbing alcohol on it. To store the eyelashes. To store the eyelashes from the daughter of the guy who you just let die because you didn't know how to run a code. So he's got the beaten.
Starting point is 00:36:17 For some reason, if you can return the beat back to Frank, Frank will be fine. The daughter is crying over the dead body of her. The daughter is crying over the, body of her. The daughter is crying over the, and this daughter we're talking like she's probably what 13. I mean she's a kid. Yeah. She's crying over the, maybe younger. I was thinking we're like 11 or 12. She's crying over the dead body of her father and in what is presented as like a climactic action moment. And she's apologizing, saying,
Starting point is 00:36:47 I'm so sorry, I said the things to you, I said about mom, it's not your fault that mom died. She's saying to Bill Murray who has died. Who has died? It's all, I mean, it's gruesome. It's gruesome. It's gruesome. Yes, it's a gruesome moment.
Starting point is 00:37:02 I mean, it was really, as we were watching, I thought, I'm glad that my children have already lost interest in this film and are playing together behind the couch Because if they saw this it would be upsetting, but I don't have to shield them from it because they have no interest in this movie anymore He hops into the tear and rides the tear into Frank's mouth again The action climax of this film is a 13 year old girl crying magical tears into the mouth, the open mouth of her father's corpse. That's how the movie ends. That is the supposed to be the moment where audiences stand up and cheer.
Starting point is 00:37:40 And then she, and then so he's replaced, he replaces he replaces the DNA bead and the hypothalamus and and then he let's like and nobody's doing anything by the way the doctors are walking away everybody's giving up they've let they've let it go and you see coming back. Yeah well you see the pulse start up again. Be, be, and then his temperature starts dropping. Do they monitor temperature like that? No, they have a temperature dropping in 107.8, 107.6. Well, they have like this. You can, I mean, you can do that, but that's not, I don't know why you would do that in this situation.
Starting point is 00:38:20 And there's also, I think you'll notice, where is the thermometer? I don't know. Because they say they have a constant temperature meter on him where they're watching his temperature drop point by point by point, but it's not in his mouth. It's not in his ear. It's not taped to his head. It's not under his arm. Does he have a rectal thermometer in? I feel like they would have made a joke about it. Yeah, they wouldn't have left that on the table, but he yes, so anyway, he miraculously comes back from the dead thank goodness.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I do want to point out. Do you want to point out that at one point Aussie and Dricks are chasing Thrax. And Dricks hypothesizes that Thrax must be headed towards the Yuvila and Osmosis Jones says, what's the Yuvila? And Dricks says, it's the small dangly thing that an Osmosis Jones says, oh, the box are shorts. Okay, I'm headed there. And Dricks says, no, not that small dangly thing.
Starting point is 00:39:21 I thought that was a little racy for kids, maybe, but I didn't get a good chocolate. There are a lot of moments where it's not like, I mean, I'm not prudish about that stuff, but there are a lot of moments where I thought, okay, well, this really clearly isn't aimed at as young as like that, that joke was aimed at a little kid. Like, that was a fart joke. There are lots of those kinds of jokes. There are lots of poop and fart jokes. There are lots of moments spent in the colon for the sake of being in the colon. Yeah. And laughing about it. There are lots of those kinds of things and then coupled with a very like upsetting scene of a young girl's father dying. And it's Bill Murray's so it's doubly upsetting for all of us.
Starting point is 00:40:06 But he lives, he's okay. They're seen hiking together at the end. And he eats a carrot. That's a very triumphant moment. Oh, and also, the mayor accidentally makes him fart. And he fart so hard, he blows the mayor out of his butt. That happens. Well, the mayor's lost his job.
Starting point is 00:40:21 There's, I guess, a new mayor. And then there was a spin-off apparently I Ozzy and Drex coming I asked Charlie when the movie was over if she liked it and she said no Charlie doesn't meant swords no I didn't like it and I said what do you think would have made it better and she said If it were you know more Like a normal movie. Well, there it is, folks. It is not like normal movie.
Starting point is 00:40:50 It is one of the stranger films I've seen two times, technically 1.8 times, I guess, if you count the nap. But it is wild. I don't think you should see it. You probably don't need to see it. If you do see it, let us know. I would say there are little moments in there. It's such a shame that in the movie that I can't say I enjoyed it,
Starting point is 00:41:12 that there were moments like the vaccine analogy. And many of the things that the white blood cells do to fight infection and to ward off disease and that kind of thing. And it's all very clever. It's all very, like there are moments where you could really tell somebody thought about it and a real creative brain, put those ideas together. And the visuals are pretty grotesque,
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