Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine - Sawbones: Doctor Odyssey

Episode Date: October 22, 2024

There's a new medical show in town, and Sawbones is all here for it. Dr. Sydnee goes through some of the highlights of the medical emergencies above the cruise ship in Doctor Odyssey and their plausibility and how likely it is to be able to do procedures like dialysis on the high seas.Music: "Medicines" by The Taxpayers https://taxpayers.bandcamp.com/

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I am always interested to see what new fascinations you've developed while I've been gone and you've been left to pursue whatever your free time, however you dang well please. Well, it was different this time. Last time you left me, I think you set me up, sort of, for my latest obsession. Yeah, yeah.

Because you gave me a whole stack of fantasy erotica. I mean, it's just- What I lovingly call my fairy sex books. Right. And I read them all. Right. But then this time on tour, I start getting texts about this new guy.

It's what I like to call a new Pacy show. See, it's kind of like, you know how all video games I play are just different Tetrises? Sure, of course, as you've made clear in the past to me. Right, like there's just a variety of kinds of Tetrises that you've given me on different handheld and TV based devices over the years. Yes.

Well, there are different Pacy shows. They're all just, it's Pacy. Yeah, it's just Pacy and different adventures. Right, Fringe is a great Pacy show if you haven't checked that out. The latest Pacy show is called Dr. Odyssey. Pacy is not named Pacy on this show. Not on this one.

No, his name is Dr. Max Bankman, and he's a doctor on a cruise ship. This is a pretty easy conceit. And I thought, well, I'll check it out because I love Joshua Jackson, and I will happily watch any new medical show at least one episode because either they get it right, and I think that's cool, or they get it wrong,

and I think it's hilarious. And then sometimes they get it right and I think that's cool or they get it wrong and I think it's hilarious. And then sometimes they get it wrong and it makes me angry but I also like getting angry. So that's a good- Yeah, it's hitting all the buttons for Sid. Right, so that's usually at least one episode and some of them I can stick with because I'm like, oh, this is so wild.

I gotta stick with it. And then others like the one about how it was just the resident, was that called the resident? Only the resident was the good guy, and all the other doctors were evil, medical industrial complex villains. So some of them I can't stick with. But this one, from the beginning, I was hooked.

Because Doctor Odyssey is, I guess, a medical drama? That's the genre. Would you say? I would say it's a wet medical drama. Wet? Yes, it's at sea. Oh. It's a wet medical drama.

You can't give me any more fairy books, I don't think, when you said wet medical drama. Some are very dry and crunchy. I feel like ER is a much drier medical drama than this is. Yeah, it rains sometimes, I guess, but generally speaking, it's dry in the ER. Yeah, and Chicago Hope, I mean, forget about it. It's one of the crustiest shows on the scene.

I don't even need to tell you that. No, this is wet in the sense that they are on a cruise ship, so they are at sea. Don Johnson is the captain of this cruise ship. And the idea... Captain, and what was that great name of that great captain character that you love so much, Sid? What is his name?

Don't look it up. I just call him Don Johnson. Yeah, Captain Robert Massey is his real name. I would not have... The lead characters, Max, Avery, and Tristan are so like, those are powerful, like romance novel, drama, like those are the names of people who are hot and cool and get stuff done, right?

Like those are the names they have chosen for this. So you're introduced to this idea that there was a doctor on the cruise ship and they had to let him go because he messed something up. He didn't catch an outbreak of a GI bug, basically. He didn't catch it and then they busted him off. You never really get anything, there's a lot of shows, things that they'd waste time on on other TV shows that they don't waste time on

with Doctor Obviously. You don't really find out how anybody felt about the last doctor or who he was or why. I mean, you kind of know why he got fired, but it's not really important because he's not here anymore. Well, I think they reference him being old and that's a problem on a cruise ship. Do you know what I'm hoping for?

I'm hoping for? I'm hoping season two, he comes back for some reason. You know what I mean? And then they're like butting heads. There's a new- Well, you've left the door open for some sort of guest, some sort of cameo. I haven't, to be clear.

Well, no, the creators of Dr. Odyssey, which includes, by the way, Ryan Murphy is one of the creators, which I think informs this show. If you are familiar with Ryan Murphy's other work, it has that vibe. His other work in Strike Breaking, all the different great Ryan Murphy projects. And of course, in addition, we should mention

Phillipa Sue is on this show, the wonderful Phillipa Sue, who we knew from Hamilton originally, as Avery Morgan, nurse practitioner, not a nurse. Oh, he's very clear about that. Yes. There's a great bit in the first scene, where her character, a nurse practitioner, tells Joshua Jackson's character, a doctor, that she's an NP, at which point his character, a doctor, tells her character, a nurse nurse practitioner that NP stands for nurse practitioner

Well, he says it in such a no A nurse practitioner you say of course, of course. I know some of the terminology going in I think I think someone is supposed to be impressed I don't know if it's her or us everyone in the circle is in the medical field So it's not clear who he's trying to wow. Well, maybe us at home We're supposed to be like well, he really knows his stuff. He knew that off the top of his head. He already knew about nurse practitioners going in.

It also has like a real, I never watched the love boat, but I feel like there's a love boat vibe. Well, honey, it's a boat and there's a lot of love. So I think that that's accurate. I think that that's pretty out of the money. It's a little soapy sometimes in the way it's presented. A little soapy. Yeah, I guess it is a little bit soapy.

There is a point where Joshua Jackson does a kickstand on a wall mid-surgery. Okay, you're spoiling. You're getting too far ahead. Sorry, okay, great. Okay, so what I wanted to talk about- Imagine my surprise at finding out there's a structure to this episode because you just told me we You're getting too far ahead. You're getting too far ahead. Okay, so what I wanted to talk about- Imagine my surprise at finding out there's a structure to this episode,

because you just told me we're talking about Dr. Odyssey. Well, I wanted to get into the medical, well, this is a medical show. And so we usually try to review- How quickly we forget. The medicine, and then you can comment on the show itself as much as you'd like. That's your, entertainment is your area of expertise,

so you can talk about that. Thank you, Sydney. The subtitle of this show on the poster, Sydney, what would you guess? The subtitle on the poster of this show is. Something about a fantasy? It is big deck energy. No.

It's what the poster says. No, no it's not. It's what the poster says. Okay, okay. Okay. Okay. And let me preface with two, everyone on this show, they know what show they're on. Everyone on this show knows what show they're on.

It is a fun TV show to watch. Yes. No one, no one is too worked up. Nobody's confused. Dr. I, Don Johnson's certainly is too worked up about Dr. Odyssey. Don Johnson's certainly not too worked up. No one's too worked up about Dr. Odyssey. He's just inhabiting his character. He's just there.

His character's chill. So the, okay, from the jump, we find out that our doctor character, Dr. Max Bankman. Yeah. Max Bankman. Max has a lot of accolades, like they comment on how he seems like overqualified. And I don't know, I will say, your usual qualifications to be a cruise ship doctor,

I feel like you'd have to be. A doctor. Well, yeah, but also like pretty resourceful and adaptable. I would imagine that ER docs may be really helpful in that situation. I feel like as a family doctor, as long as I had some like, which I do because of the work I do, some more like trauma response,

like some trauma care abilities, like those would be good. I don't normally think you do a lot of surgeries on cruise ships, which is- You probably try to avoid it, yeah. Yeah, I think that's pretty unlikely. Now that's not true on Dr. Odyssey. No, no, no, they'll do anything on Dr. Odyssey. I don't know that you necessarily would need a surgeon.

They referenced that he was in internal medicine attending. The way he says it, by the way, is she was like, oh, you were a doctor at Yale, and he was like, well, I was actually general internal medicine attending, but who's counting? Which just means like you pay senior residency and you're like, I wasn't I'm an attending, like I am an attending, like I'm not. I'm a family medicine attending, but who's counting? Not me. I was also check section chief, but who's counting? Anyway, that's not I mean, like that just your doctor. That's cool. It's

great. good job. But he also did the Peace Corps, he's done a bunch of work overseas. Like you get the impression that he has a lot of like unique medical experiences in resource limited settings that would make him good at this sort of adapt, like you have to adapt quickly. They say he's overqualified, like you're saying,

but like I kind of feel like if you're gonna have one doctor on the ship, I think you should get a good one. I think you should get a really good one because I feel like it's just the only one in the ocean around you. It should be a good doctor. How much does a cruise ship doctor make? That's the question, honey.

We live in... We're stuck with capitalism. They don't pay cruise ship and so you know that they just their reward is the sea. The people live for the life. There is no way there is no way when I when I just like the first two results that pop up like the AI wants me to think it's between seven thousand and fifteen thousand a month this other result says they make $19.95 an hour.

And that typically doctors- $20 an hour? Yeah. Good rate. Well, typically doctors are not paid hourly. Hourly. Well, they're averaging out this out anyway. But I mean, I guess you could.

Anyway, so he right away is like, we're gonna do things differently. I have my own equipment. I've brought lots of equipment for our infirmary, which is like an operating room and clinic. They have one room where they keep their supplies and it's just like all these beautiful shelves, open shelves, full of like brown glass jars,

like an apothecary, except it's full of modern medical supplies, I guess, that are unlabeled. It's a really wild, and I understand my heart are unlabeled. It's a really wild, and I understand, my heart goes out to them. They're setting a lot of scenes in a cruise ship, what would you call it?

Infirmary. Infirmary, a cruise ship infirmary, which has gotta be one of the most sterile, boring environments on the, like a real one, has gotta be the most drab, nightmarish place on the planet. This place is gorgeous, like beautifully curtained and glass and frosted and gold. It looks like a museum about old medical stuff. It kind of, yeah. nightmarish place on the planet. This place is gorgeous, like beautifully curtained and glass and frosted and gold.

It looks like a museum about old medical stuff. It kind of, yeah. Right, like it looks like something like in the days of like steel barons and coal barons, like all the robber barons, all the barons, like that they would have had some sort of ship with this in it, right? It's beautiful.

And it like looks nice, but totally impractical. Yeah, but no one's complaining because we're watching the TV show. We like it like looks nice, but totally impractical. But no one's complaining, because we're watching the TV show. We like it to look nice, thank you. So he brings a dialysis machine, because he's like, the dialysis machine is the Swiss army knife of medicine, which is a, it's interesting,

because as he says, we can use dialysis for things other than kidney failure. So like there's a truth there. I would not say say as someone who practices resource-limited medicine that I have often thought if I only had a dialysis machine I could save this life. I would not say that that is a common, I mean certainly, and I look this up by the way, do they do dialysis on cruise ships? There are cruises, you have to look into which one because not all, that is not a default, like not, do they do dialysis on cruise ships? There are cruises, you have to look into which one,

because not all, that is not a default, like not all cruise ships offer dialysis. But there are cruises that offer dialysis. So if you are someone who needs regular kidney dialysis in order to survive, you can go on cruises that have dialysis machines and dialysis nurses and like the whole, I'm sure a physician who can monitor it, to do dialysis on board.

So that is something that happens, but it wouldn't be a standard pleasure cruise. Okay, that makes sense. But from a narrative perspective, if you're about to do a season of TV, you gotta have a bunch of different options that you can build like storylines and treatment lines around, right?

So if you're gonna have a piece of equipment that wouldn't be bog standard, I think you owe it to the viewer to narratively explain why some of the equipment that they're gonna be using in this season that you wouldn't necessarily normally see on a cruise ship, I think that they're trying to say like, so you know he's brought some different stuff on here, so if we have some different stuff

that you wouldn't necessarily expect, we already talked about that. Okay, but you are supposing that the average viewer who's not in the medical field, and even like myself, like I'm in the medical field, but I don't know the exact stuff they do on cruise ships. Like I've never worked as a doctor on a cruise ship. I know that's a unique environment.

It's a little different. But you're assuming that the average viewer would see a dialysis machine and be like, that's, they wouldn't do that the average viewer would see a dialysis machine and be like, they wouldn't do that. I know that's a dialysis machine and I know that would never happen. Justin. Such is the attention to detail of a Doctor Odyssey.

Did you think it was odd that they did a heart cath on a cruise ship? Cause I did. Are you getting ahead now? I'm just saying they do lots of stuff on this cruise ship that if you're watching as a medical person, I mean they do a transesophageal echocardiogram. Okay, again, that's just for you what you're saying.

They do it. They do. No one knows if that's cool or not on a cruise ship. Okay, they do a procedure. So, okay, an echocardiogram is when we do an ultrasound of your heart. Yes. You may have had one before, you may have seen one.

It looks like an alter, like the one that we- My wrist, my watch does them? Is that what the one my watch does? That's not that you're talking about an electrocardiogram, an EKG. An echo, you know what an ultrasound is? We take a little probe, we put jelly on some part of your body and we rub it around

and they bounce the waves off and we look at pictures. Right? Okay. We can do an ultrasound of your heart where we do the same thing on your chest, right? We just put the probe, jelly over your chest. We look at your heart where we do the same thing on your chest, right? We just put the probe jelly over your chest, we look at your heart. Well, that picture's pretty good.

If we need a better picture of your heart, we can actually do that by looking at it from the back. And the way we look at your heart from the back is not through your back, we do it through your throat. So we take the ultrasound probe, we put it down your esophagus, down your throat, and then we use it to look at the back of your heart through your esophagus.

That is a better picture. We abbreviate that as a TEE, or transesophageal, echocardiogram, because we looked trans through the esophagus, esophageal, at your heart. They do that on the ship. I am gonna say that is not something you do on cruise ships typically. Yeah, honey. And they didn't call attention to that. They weren do on cruise ships typically. Yeah, honey.

And they didn't call attention to that. They weren't like- None of it is, babe. That's why they do a TV show about it. If it was stuff they did on cruise ships normally, it wouldn't be a TV show. It would be just a cruise ship. No one would even bring a camera to that.

They have to do wrong things for it to be a TV show. I did have this thought as he was walking on board and Don Johnson was telling him like, this is heaven and you're the guardian angel and you have to keep everybody alive and preserve the fantasy and all this. I'm thinking, what could they possibly do on this cruise ship to raise the states?

Because like generally speaking, I would assume that most of the stuff you encounter on cruise ships are like GI illnesses for sure, right? Usual walk-in clinic stuff, cold flu type stuff, a bunch of people in close proximity, you're gonna pass germs around. So those sorts of contagions,

maybe some food poisoning here and there, hopefully not. Some sunburns, and then I'm sure you're gonna have some broken bones or traumatic injuries, sprains, strains, people falling over, whatever. That feels to me like what you would expect in a cruise ship infirmary. But that is not what they encounter on Dr. Odyssey. It is much more intense.

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Not that they never happen, but are pretty rare. We start off really strong with Rachel Dratch as a guest star. Yeah, amazing. Her husband, in his enthusiasm for the opening, for the launch buffet and margarita party, has eaten so much shrimp that he has gotten iodine poisoning. So shrimp do contain iodine, and I had to look this up. Can you eat enough shrimp to get iodine poisoning? I believe you would have, from what I could find, you would have to eat over like 15 pounds of shrimp to get any sort of toxicity from the iodine.

You wouldn't die, but like, could you develop symptoms? And then yes, you're a listener. I had to go look up how much Joey Chestnut has eaten and it's 18 pounds. So like Joey, go see a doctor, I guess. I mean, do that every day. Actually, Joey Chestnut, you should probably go see a doctor today if you weren't planning to already.

I liked, as I was reading about it, there were people sort of like theorizing other physicians because there are articles out there where people are like, is this real? Dr. Odyssey, is this real? And this is what it's in reference to. That's why people are asking these questions. If you want to start Googling these things,

you're going to see that Google's going to finish your sentence really quickly. Because I am not the only one like, do they do dialysis on cruise ships? So you could eat enough iodine in the form of shrimp to possibly have some symptoms of toxicity. It wouldn't kill you. I can't imagine you'd get sick as fast

as this poor gentleman did. And the thing they call it, they say like, oh, we see this a lot on cruise ships. No. And we call it seal disease because baby seals can get it too. So I looked this up. I could not, and maybe there's a veterinarian out there who takes care of seals who could tell me otherwise.

Now, honey, I gotta say, there is no way that they call it seal disease in the world of seal medicine. Well, honey. How unhelpful would that be? They're all seal diseases. I couldn't find a reference to them calling it sealed disease in the world of human medicine.

I think maybe it's possible Dr. Odyssey made this up, which is wild to me. We call it sealed disease. We here at Dr. Odyssey call it sealed disease. That's a wild, I mean, like, you don't see that a lot on medical shows. Usually when they start referencing the more, like, kind of rare and esoteric points of medicine,

like the kind of academic little details, they're true. They're weird, they're rare, they're not something we talk about every day. Sometimes they'll like use like an eponym for something and like, well, I mean, I guess, yes, that is the name, but like nobody uses that, but it is true. It is rare to see one just made up from whole cloth. Yeah, but speaking of things

you rarely see on medical shows, how about when that same dude from the shrimp poisoning event, poor Tom McGowan, who it's great to see back on TV, who's so good in the heavyweights and sleepless in Seattle and lots of stuff, love that guy. This poor dude is the patient again. Yes. I've never seen that happen.

Because he goes down the water slide and his wife Rachel Dratch goes down the water slide right after him and crashes into him. She Dratches into him, you mean? Dislocating Dratches into him. Which by the way, I love Rachel Dratch anyway. She is giving a performance that I don't even know what to, I don't know what she's.

She understands, no, she understands exactly the TV show she's on, she maybe gets it first in the world. Yes. Her and Cordova Street as Syphilis Sam are the first two people to really get it. Which it really like, I do think there is something heightened about the reality of, in its surreality. And it really like, I do think there is something heightened about the reality of, in its surreality.

It's a Ryan Murphy show. It's a Ryan Murphy show. There's aspects of it that feel like, well, humans don't say things, like they don't talk like, that's a caricature of a human in the moment, but then they're a human again in the next moment. Right, it just is kind of whatever they need to. Right.

So anyway, she crashes into him and dislocates his clavicle, his collarbone, from his sternum. And in doing so, in dislocating that joint, his clavicle then pokes towards the middle. So if you think about your clavicles on the sides, you can kind of like hold your fingers up, I'm holding them up against them right now.

The point where the tip of your fingers are, in the middle, you can kind of like hold your fingers up. I'm holding them up against them right now. The point where the tip of your fingers are in the middle, that little bumpy part, imagine that that comes unhooked and then it is shoved by the stuff that it's connected to, you know, on the shoulder end, it's shoved towards the middle. Does that make sense to you? How it would be shoved towards the middle? Okay, this can happen.

This obviously, pretty much anything can become dislocated if you try hard enough. And- You said that obviously at the beginning there was a wild addition, I should say. Not, hey babe, not obviously at all to anybody other than you and your pals. This is a very uncommon injury.

It does happen. It's really uncommon. I was looking up like some case reports of it and can it then puncture something? It does happen. It's really uncommon. I was looking up like some case reports of it and can it then puncture something? Because in this case, it actually punctures his trachea. This is a man who poisoned himself with shrimp not three hours prior.

And he now has a hole in his trachea, which is a medical emergency, by the way. And like generally speaking, this kind of dislocation is an emergency because it can poke into things. It generally doesn't, but it can. And then you, and in this case, so he has a hole in his trachea

that they very quickly create another hole in his trachea so he can breathe, which you've seen done. George Clooney did it on ER all the time. We saw it done out in the field with a pen and you know what a trach is. We've seen that in medical dramas before. So they give him a trach so he can breathe, but then they're like,

we've got to move this clavicle back into place because it's in his trachea where there is a hole. It is in his trachea. So they have to do this, I mean, they basically pop his shoulder back into place. With his, yeah. And it takes all three of them. Ghoulish.

They do it. So they pop his clavicle back into where it goes. But I will say there's still a hole there we have established in his trachea. Show it up. Well, they don't do that. Well, they do. Nothing, but you do see him walking off the boat just fine.

He's just in a sling at the end of the episode talking normally about what a wonderful time he'd had. Hey, listen, you aren't even through the first episode, Sid, if you have any hope of getting into some of these other medical malformalities. In that first episode, just to round it out, also a guy falls off the ship. Yeah, they go back and get him though.

They say it's gonna be impossible and then they do it instantly. They go back and find him. He's fine. Don't worry. He's- Don Johnson did another one of his old mariners maneuvers. Don Johnson likes to describe moves that he's gonna do as like old sailors tricks or old mariners tricks.

Don they're related to steering a boat. I bet they're all mariners tricks. Because they're how they're related to steering the boat, it is probably an old Mariners trick. It would be wild if it was like, here's an old Baker's trick, and then he spins the wheel as hard as he can. I will say- There's also a lot of precision steering

with the background actors on the show. There's a lot of people who look like they're piloting down the Audubon. Well, they look like they're piloting down the Autobahn. In a speedster. They look like they're doing it in manual. Like they actually have to use their physical human strength to control the entire cruise ship. And every like turn of the wheel is like. Yeah, they're just like inching it slightly.

Just nose it on. I will say the CPR that's performed on the guy who fell overboard, who's fine, he is fine, don't worry. It is a better depiction of CPR than I'm used to seeing. I mean, granted, he makes it, and that is not generally what happens with CPR. So that's kind of unrealistic, sorry, bummer. But the way that Joshua Jackson is doing

the chest compressions is pretty good. I have to say, in the Ambu bag, it's a little fast on the squeeze in, but generally it's an okay CPR. I can't believe, it's so weird that Joshua Jackson is getting complimented on an episode of Sawbones. That's gotta be the, every, yeah, that's every one. Oh my gosh, Confetti is shooting out the lights.

We complimented Joshua Jackson on every episode of Sawbone. This is not fair. Because I also think Adam Scott is great. And on Madam Webb, he does some of the laziest CPR I have ever seen depict. It is one-handed CPR that he's doing. I'm glad your boyfriend does such great chest compressions, moving on.

Okay, I won't go through episode by episode because I don't know that that would be particularly interesting. And I also think you should watch the show. But they do, like, they continue to come up with creative ways to make people sick so that they don't all just have gastroenteritis, which is probably, again, probably what the majority

of cruise ship illnesses are. And each week is themed, which they tell you at the beginning, at the end of the very first episode, he's, they're like, wait for next week, it's singles week. And he's like, wait, every week is themed? And then they say that- Audience. Audience, like Don Johnson talks about things happening

in the context of the cruise ship season, but he just says season. So what you get is him talking about like, there's a chef character that they add halfway through the season of TV. And he's like, and she has very graciously agreed to stay with us for the season. And it's like, you mean a cruise ship,

but like really you want Don Johnson to look at you because it's a TV show. There was also a dance off in the first episode. But you don't get it. The second week is singles week. You've got, of course, as you already alluded to, syphilis Sam. I think that's a fair depiction.

Like the idea that there would be a guy on board spreading syphilis to everybody. Sure. Yeah, I bet that could would be a guy on board spreading syphilis to everybody. Sure. Yeah, I bet that could happen on a singles cruise. And especially they make the point of him just very casually saying, I never use condoms. He just kind of says it. And everyone's just sort of like, I'll be danged.

Okay. Well, they'll be gone in a week, so we don't need to get too hung up about it. They do have a lot of diuretic abuse mentioned on this episode. Again, I guess reasonable singles crews, people may be doing unhealthy things to try to maintain some sort of body image

that they've, you know, unrealistic body standard they've set for themselves. That's a fair thing. So I think that overall not too bad in terms of those sorts of issues. You would have picked up on an electrolyte imbalance with basic labs, which they kind of skim over, but whatever.

They do rescue a woman found at sea, like a refugee found at sea, who she had been in Venezuela and then was working on a fishing boat and then it caught fire and she was like left in a raft. And then, yeah, I don't wanna spoil the rest, but yeah, that's something that happens. Also Don Johnson has a heart attack.

Yeah. Sort of. In the second episode, the captain of the ship has a heart attack. But he's fine. Plastic surgery week is maybe the most buck wild. No joke, a woman's nose falls off. No joke, her nose falls off. It's her new nose, obviously's nose falls off. No joke, her nose falls off. It's her new nose, obviously.

It falls off. And I will say that the fact that Max Bankman is not capable of reattaching it, okay. Yeah, like probably not on a cruise ship. Probably you can't reattach a nose. I do think it's odd that he's like, but we'll just like, he fits her with like a Phantom of the Opera style mask.

Really? Yes. And that's not, this is the one episode I haven't seen. So this is- And then they just wait till they get back to shore to sew the nose back. Of course. Yeah, but isn't time loss, blood loss?

Yeah, I feel like you need to move faster on that. Yeah, let's act quickly. I also am pretty sure that with a nose, like with rhinoplasty I Am fairly certain they don't just cut the whole nose off and sew a new one on But you're not sure right? No, I am certain they don't just cut your whole nose off and so anyone I'm certain that doesn't happen and they very much depict in this episode as if she has had her nose cut off and then A new one sewn on. Yeah, but that is not the case. No

as if she has had her nose cut off and then a new one sewn on. Yeah, but that is not the case. No. The episode that I enjoyed the most so far is the most recent because the Halloween episode isn't out until later this week. So the most recent episode is the Wellness Week episode where you have Amy Sedaris as kind of,

I would say like a vague, it's not a Gwyneth Paltrow stand-in exactly, but like the idea of like a wellness empire, like a goop-esque empire. She's not of the power of a Gwyneth Paltrow. She's like someone who would be in her orbit maybe. Yeah, but like her name is Bethany Wells. B Wells, Amy Sedaris is B Wells.

Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Thank you. Yes, she's great. Well, and I should admit Gina Gershon in the Plastic Surgery Week episode is great. But so it is the perfect thing for Sawbones Appreciate it. Thank you. Yes. She's great. Well, and I should admit Gina Gershon in the Plastic Surgery Week episode is great. But so it is the perfect thing for Sawbones

because it is this mixture of wellness stuff that is fake, but also medical drama that is fake. I just love it. So there's a lady who's making her special smoothies and she finally reveals that she's putting ingredients in them that can cause liver failure and kidney failure and like also like weight loss powders and stuff. So like it's all fake.

Like of course it makes you, it just makes you feel full because you're in liver failure and then you stop eating so much and you lose weight. That's how it works. They also get into a lady who's, who is doing acupuncture but clearly doesn't know what she's doing and she punctures somebody's lung and drops a lung. And so then they have to put in a chest tube.

Which I feel like they probably could do on a cruise ship actually. Probably they don't want to to but if somebody can't breathe I bet you could do a you could do a decompression. It feels fair It's really weird you keep expecting someone from the cruise ship company to show up and just be like hey Don What's going on pal this cruise ship is a nightmare or and like even Pacey? I think at some point should be like I Really thought I would just be sitting poolside

so much more than I am. It is like such a lot of work. And it gets, so it escalates the big part of this episode that's very exciting is that Phillipa Sue's character, Avery develops an appendicitis. Yeah. And they're in, they're also at the same time, we realize her character has an appendicitis and her. And they're also at the same time,

we realize her character has an appendicitis and her appendix is about to rupture and they have to remove it immediately. They cannot wait until they get to shore. They're not gonna give her IV antibiotics and try to wait until they're in an actual operating room. They've got to cut it out now. Now.

At the same time, Don Johnson lets us know that we're in the eye of a hurricane. And so- And how did this happen? Well, friends, his first mate was high on shrooms. Accidentally. Because the wellness lady put psilocybin in the saltwater taffy that she gave

as a free gift to the crew. So, so they're navigating through a hurricane while- I'm like 20 minutes later. While Max and Avery, hurricane while Max and Tristan are operating on Avery. Listen, I won't get into the particulars, but that is not how you do an appendectomy, folks. I will just say we don't generally just sort of flop viscera out onto the skin and kind of cut around on it. You also don't normally do it during a hurricane, Sid. Jam it back in a tiny incision.

I mean, anyway, but they're doing it during a hurricane. And so there is a moment where Joshua Jackson is on the wall. Like he has, like the ship is tilted so far that he's like parkouring on the wall. He stunts off the wall. It's amazing. It's an amazing shot. It's great. The surgical equipment is flying around the room. They're both like draped over her sterile field.

Trying to keep things from falling because then it scrubs out. It's like, okay. No, they are not sterile. They are scrubbed out. You cannot lay across the patient and still have a sterile field. Don't worry, everybody's fine.

That's the thing about Dr't worry, everybody's fine. That's the thing about Dr. Odyssey, everybody's fine. Next week is Halloween week. I cannot wait to see what happens. I think this show is hilarious. The medicine is not realistic. They get some things right here and there, but no, it doesn't wanna be.

And I have heard some fan theories. I've heard some fan theories, I've heard some fan theories, because all of this, by the way. Fan theory? There can't be theories. He's just a guy on a cruise ship. I've already read theories. Okay.

All of this is in the setting. Why has Max Bankman, who has all of these accolades and has this very, like this career that has been very esteemed, why did he do this? Why does he say he did this? You didn't tell, you didn't talk about that. The reason Max Bankman decided to become a cruise ship doctor- Can't believe you saved this for the end of the episode.

Is because on March 2nd, 2020, when he was in attending in New Haven, he developed a cough and the cough got worse. And yes, indeed, he was patient zero. Of Connecticut. Of Connecticut, of COVID. Of Connecticut. So he almost died of COVID-19.

Connecticut. Yes, in Connecticut. He like, he's on the news, he's patient zero, nobody will touch him, he's in isolation, they're all terrified. I mean, it's early pandemic, right? And he barely qualifies because he got one CT scan, and there were, I will say.

And he prayed to get the CT scan. So he got one, and in order to get remdesivir, which at the time had not been approved and so compassionate use only, meaning like in very special circumstances, we can give remdesivir, in order to qualify for it, you had to get that second CT scan that would show the appropriate amount of disease progression.

That may well be true. There were very tight regulations early. I was in the hospital at the time. Very tight regulations on who could get compassionate use of remdesivir. So this may all be sort of based on truth. Somehow he manages to get the, he prays for the second CT. He gets the second CT. He qualifies for remdesivir.

He gets it second CT. He gets the second CT. He qualifies for Rume Dezivir. He gets it. He lives. And he realizes this brush with death, he's got to find a better work-life balance. He needs to enjoy his life more, not take anything for granted. He goes on the cruise ship. It's the hardest thing he's ever done in his entire life. Every week, the ship is trying to fall apart.

So it's set in, can I, I wonder though, how many more shows and movies and things we're gonna see in the future. That are set in the- Well, in the post COVID, like COVID gave me this- I had to just go take a, yeah, it's like using as a narrative device. Yeah, it was interesting to see that.

And it's weird he didn't just have regular COVID, he had to have important COVID, right? It had to be like- He was patient zero. Patient zero of Connecticut. Of Connecticut. Of Connecticut. But, but it is interesting that then he is on a cruise ship that is called heaven several times

and he is called a guardian angel several times. You think they're, no, Sydney, no. I'm just, I'm asking the question, did he survive COVID? I'm asking the question. I'm answering it, he definitely did. And what I'm also gonna point out is that Grey's Anatomy, I'm pretty sure did this.

I stopped watching Grey's Anatomy a long time ago, but I'm pretty sure Meredith Grey spent an entire season in a COVID induced coma that she barely survived. Then they're definitely not doing it. I feel like they've already done this on another medical drama. Hey, thank you so much for listening. We'll be back next week

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