Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine - Sawbones: Goofy Medical Questions Vol. 3

Episode Date: July 14, 2016

Is it really so bad to pop pimples? Can you cut the mold off food and eat it? Is it fatal to hold in a sneeze? These questions and so many more are answered on our latest Q&A episode! Music: "Medicines" by The Taxpayers

Saubones is a show about medical history, and nothing the hosts say should be taken as medical advice or opinion. It's for fun. Can't you just have fun for an hour and not try to diagnose your mystery boil? We think you've earned it. Just sit back, relax, and enjoy a moment of distraction from that weird growth. You're worth it. that weird growth. You're worth it. Alright, time is about to books. One, two, one, two, three, four. We came across a pharmacy with a toy and that's lost it out. We pushed on through the broken glass and had ourselves a look around.

Some medicines, some medicines that escalate my cop for the mouth. Hello, Rady. Welcome to Sal Bones, a marital tour of Biscayton Medicine. I am your co-host, Justin McAroy. And I'm Sydney McAroy. Sydney, we are getting ready to take off for a flight to Boston tomorrow. That's true.

We are not packed. I'm still a little sick. Yeah. Nothing's ready. Nothing's ready. Nothing's ready, but you know what? We... Charlie's packed. She's on top of things.

She's, yeah. She's an efficient, almost two-year-old. But we didn't want to leave you all hanging. So we are here too. Once again, answer your medical questions. I'm using we very loosely here. Cause... Well, and to be fair, using medical questions very loosely too. That's, uh, yes, absolutely sending. That's a good point. Uh, we wanted to, uh,

answer just from if you're queries to the best of our abilities, some of them are very, goofy. Um, and in general, of course, as always, this is not a medical advice show. Hopefully if you listen, you know that by now. Right. And if you've been doing any of the things I talk about on the show, well, I'm very sorry to your family, I assume you're no longer with us.

And I'm just shooting these at Sydney, so keep in mind that, of course, if there's real doctor's appointment, she would like read books to give you the absolute right answer. So she's just gonna take them off the cuff. I just, well,, you think I make it up? Yeah, just kind of make it up. This is what you're going to be doing. Now, you just know how to find things in books also, like if you weren't sure. Right. Yeah, you know, so what you're saying is that I don't know

everything. You know, okay, moving on. Let's just get into it, Sid. What do you think? That's, let's go for it. Okay. Our first question comes to us from Gina who asks, is it safe to eat moldy food after the mold part has been removed? Just can tell you that questions about like how old or bad food can be and be safely consumed are I am not the best person to necessarily weigh in on it. Sydney loves old stuff. She loves it. I just, I just, okay, first of all, some things

when they sit for a while, the flavors really like meld together. When we first started dating, the first time we got pizza, all right, we had finished the pizza for the night and still had about a half of pizza left over. This is not my fault. This was passed on to me as a family tradition. And Sidney said, well, I was trying to make room with Fred and Sidney said, well, we just

leave it in the oven. And I said, what did you say? She said, we just leave it in the oven. And I said, overnight, like, no, that's the danger zone between 40 degrees and 140 degrees is a danger zone. If you leave stuff in there for more than four hours, you're like, out of luck. It's an overweight. To be fair, it's what my mommy and daddy taught me because they always did that.

And I didn't die. Also you had a food handler's license and I was not yet a doctor. So fair. Okay, fair and income. But Cindy, is it safe to eat moldy food after the moldy part has been removed? So my, I'd say that the straight up answer is, if there's mold on your food,

you probably want to eat other food. Have I pulled mold off of bread and eaten the rest of the bread? Yeah, I'm not going to lie. Is it likely that you're going to get super sick or that you're going to die? No, probably not. But if mold's growing on it, then it's fair to say other things could be growing on it that you can't necessarily see. And it's important to remember that, you know, the first little speck of mold that starts to grow on something is microscopic. As it gets bigger, you see the mold, but like, I don't know.

Ew, I didn't know that. You probably need to, you probably need to eat other food. Ew, gross. Probably the safer answer there. Grody. And you know, usually it's just like the pieces of bread on the outside. You can just throw those away and like eat the other bread. Now we are, we have some other questions from Gina's and they are all pretty good. So let's just keep

Yeah, she had a lot of good questions. The Gina portion going. Is there a real name for the skin on your elbow? Now this question confused me a little because first of all Justin Is there a fake name or a silly name or some sort of fun name? Funky nickname for the skin on your elbow now. You need to, okay, I'm gonna tell you about the skin on your elbow and you need to look right now and tell me if there is some sort of... Okay, got it. Justin, this is our hit segment, Justin, it's just the internet.

Yeah, is there a, okay. Let me Google that. Is that what it's called? Justin Googles it? Justin Googles it. Justin Googles the, whatever the fun name is for the skin on your elbow because apparently this is something I'm not hip. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

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I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. wanted to call it the electron on skin because that is what that area is. Let's see, electron on. So, you could say that if you wanted to, but I would say that if I were describing it, I would just say the skin over the patient's elbow. Okay, so, many claim that a name for the, this is coming straight to you from Urban Dictionary that that skin under your, the flap of skin under your elbow is called the weenis. What?

W-E-E-N-I-S. That is not what I would have thought that word was referring to. And then Urban Dictionary says it's called the oligranal skin. Electronol, that's what it's called. Ola Cranel, yeah, that's right. I said that wrong, but we miss. We miss is this night. Yeah, there you go.

There you go. Thank you again. I just learned something too. I just learned something too. All right, another one. I would love to hear Dr. McRoy weigh in on the Squatty Potty. Actually, I'd love to hear Mr. McRoy do. That's me.

There are views at Amazon.com or hilarious enough that I want to buy one. So we have a Squatty Potty. We have a Squatty Potty. Now, let me tell you this. If you're not familiar with the Squatty Potty, do you want to describe what the Squatty Potty is? It's on Shark Tank and it's a... It's a little footstool. It's a little footstool that you use. Why you. Squatty on the body. Squatty on the body. It helps your posture for pooping to make it like more

how the animal, like our animal ancestors do it. So you say you squatty more. Yes, you squatty more. Instead of sit. I don't, okay, I don't know that there have been big giant trials of this to like see this versus people sitting on the toilet regularly and how they did. I'm sure that there is some science of some sort behind it.

It makes sense to me that that position would be healthier for you. That is not like a new revelation for the squatty potty, the makers of the squatty potty, there are other parts of the world where it is standard that you squat when you go number two. So I think it makes sense. I think that it, from that standpoint, just anatomically, yeah,

it probably is a more comfortable way to go to the bathroom. Not more comfortable. A more efficient way to go to the bathroom. I'll comfortable. A more efficient way to go to the bathroom. I'll let that slide. It ain't perfect. I don't, I think you can still poop sitting, like if you don't wanna buy a squatty body, I think you're fine.

I don't think you're gonna die if you don't get one. It makes sense to me, I am not going to weigh in personally on my experience with a squatty body, because I don't, I I can't I just can't Call me approved call me up tight. I use the bathroom. I just can't talk about my own bathroom functions On the internet. Sorry. Justin. Do you want to share? I don't use it even though we keep it at the toilet I don't use it because we only have one and I use the both of our bathrooms So it seems to me that I wouldn't be getting any benefit

from using it half the time. So I just use it none of the time. That's a crazy reason not to use it, by the way. Please give, last one from Gina, please give me your opinion on the five-second rule. So the... It's horse haples, right? I mean, it's...

Yeah, it's, my opinion actually is backed up. There have been some studies done on this. People have actually researched the five-second rule, and if you're not familiar, which I mean, I surely you are, but if you're not familiar, the five-second rule is the idea that if you drop a piece of food or like your fork or something on the ground,

and it's down there for less than five seconds before you pick it back up, then it's not dirty. You didn't get any germs on it, so you can eat it or keep using it or whatever. The fact is that if there's gonna be bacteria or whatever stuck to it, it's going to stick to it. It has a lot more to do with the surface that you drop it on, how damp it is, the temperature of that kind of thing, then it really does how long it's down there.

I think mythbusters did a thing on this. Yeah. I did like two seconds versus six seconds. It's all the same. It really doesn't matter. Now, as I've referenced before, do I eat things that I've dropped on the floor? Yeah, sure. Yeah. We're pretty liberal about that kind of thing in this house. I don't really care. I would use a little common sense. When I am at work and I work in a hospital and I drop something on the floor in the hospital, I do not eat that off the floor.

Right, yeah. So, you know, use a little common sense with that one. We burn it. Okay, here's some other people who said in some questions, this one comes from Mindy and Annie, who ask, how did UTIs not kill all women before antibiotics were a thing?

They're so common. Did women die from them frequently? Are they not as dangerous and fluffed untreated as I think? Well, one quick point of clarification, we tend to associate, I think, UTIs with women because they do tend to be more frequent with women. Men can get urinary tract infections or UTIs, of course.

But just because of, so the most common bacteria that causes a urinary tract infection is E. coli. Now, where does E. coli live? If you think of the bug E. coli, what are you, what are you thinking of? Poo pee. Exactly. Poo pee. So E. coli is from your butt. And if you think about the distance between the urethra, depending on what genitalia is downstairs. It's just a little easier for the bacteria to traverse that path. So that's why you get this association of urinary tract infections and women, but that's not necessarily true, just to kind of throw that out there. But you're right, we do get more frequently.

In terms of any infections before the antibiotic era, which was just the 1940s, that's not that long ago. It's wild. It really isn't. That's when penicillin came first and all the antibiotics came since then, people probably died a lot of these kinds of infections. Not, you know, urinary tract infections for sure because you can become septic from those, but any kind of infection was often followed by death.

Now, what it reminds us though is that, of course, not everyone who got urinary tract infection died, our bodies have the ability to fight off bacterial infections. So there were plenty of women who got, and men who got urinary tract infections, got sick, didn't know why, and got better. And today, if we felt like being, I don't know,

if I felt like being a bad doctor, I guess I could look at patients and say, I'm gonna give some of you antibiotics and some of you not, because some of you are gonna live anyway. That would be crazy. I would never do that. I'd be really bad doctor.

I'd be very bad doctor, I'd say. Yeah, I wouldn't do that. I'd be really bad doctor. I'd be very bad doctor, I think. Yeah, I wouldn't do that. I think I would probably not get to be a doctor very long if I did that. But if you didn't, if you got a urinary tract infection and you didn't take antibiotics, you still might find it off and be okay. It's just why I take that chance now.

Yeah. Now we have them. They work. Sure. They make you better. UTI suck. So let's just fix them. So let's just fix them. So let's just fix them.

Nick has a question and Nick says, every now and then I get really gassy in my stomach to the point of pain. The only relief is to make myself burp over and over again to vent out the gas. Being an engineer, I thought I could meet. What if I could open a release valve? Basically, I wondered if there was such a thing

as a soft-of-gial intubation. If I swallowed a medical grade tube, such as... I love this question. I don't even sense that one end was in my stomach and one was outside my mouth. Would that vent the burp gas? Would I be able to breathe? Would it hurt me to pull it back out again? Is anything

like this ever done? And why do I get sudden burp attacks anyway? There's medicine for this friend, though. Just take some, first off, try some medicine, try some ginger. Some ginger, my help. Nick, I think you're making things a little too complicated, my man. Yeah. I'm not sure my help. Nick, I think you're making things a little too complicated, my man. Yeah. Let me tell you this, first of all, so why do you burp? All right. I don't know.

But you got awfully defensive there. Yeah, you're still getting me like, I'm the doctor on the show. I don't know. I do know. Because you've got excess gas and you're getting out. Well, it's usually from swallowing air. Okay. That's why you burp.

Okay. That's different than when it comes out the other end Yeah, but you didn't swallow it and it got all the way down there But burping is usually swallowed air from while you're eating while you're talking while you're chewing gum whatever and it's got to make its way back out and Guess what you already have a release valve It's you know your lower soft g esophageal sphincter and then your esophagus and then your mouth. It's burping.

It's burping. That is the release valve, man. Our bodies are pretty smart and they're made for that. So burping is to get rid of that excess air. And, you know, it comes up a little bit at a time because the bottom of your esophagus, what I reference, the lower esophageal sphincter is tight. So, like, everything can't just go through there all at once. Yes, theoretically, if you put a tube through there,

air would definitely come through your stomach, right directly through that tube and up out of your mouth. We can do things like that. We have tubes like that. They're called... Oh, they got tubes, listen. Yeah, we got tubes. Don't get it twisted. The problem is not that they don't have tubes, okay. They're called... Oh, they got tubes, listen. Yeah, we got tubes. Don't get it twisted.

The problem is not that they don't have tubes. Okay, they've got tubes. We have tubes called Orogastric tubes. We have tubes called nasogastric tubes. And both of those tubes go either from your mouth or your nose into your stomach. And they're used to decompress if somebody has a bunch of air and their bowels aren't working,

like they're not functioning properly, we can do that to release the air back up through your mouth, take the pressure off so like you stop vomiting, which is usually the symptoms that you're having. So we have a way to do that, but for common use, just for regular burping purposes, your mouth and your esophagus have got it covered. Why do you burp? I don't do, we all burp, everybody burps. It's okay.

It could have to do with the food that you're eating if you're, or if you're drinking something like carbonated or if you're eating really quickly, you know, those could be reasons. Choo, choo, choo, until you get to 22. Yeah, yes, it's following big gulps of food, not chewing enough, that kind of thing. But then some people just burp, it's okay.

It's okay, Don't engineer this. First of all, we've already made it. And secondly, you could be creating problems. Let's let your body do the trick. All right, we got one from Jen who asks, why is my toddler's poop black? Could it be the pounds of blueberries he's eating? So toddler's poop, baby poop,

can come in a Myriad of colors some of them quite lovely to be frank and I think it's just your reminder that one you gave your daughter That wild and reckless flavor of sherbet from basking robins again at least that's usually the reminder for me And to that you know baby poop is just crazy. It's okay, it's probably black because of the blueberries. Most of the time, especially with baby poop, it's green, yellow, blue, black, brown.

Yeah, they're all over the spectrum. Yeah, baby poop is all over the place. Really, my daughter's poop, Charlie's poop was green the other day, but it was a beautiful shade of green. It was like the crown, the tropical green crown, you know what I'm talking about. I can't do this, I'm sorry.

It's like a tropical jungle green. I'm not doing anything. It had a blue tint to it. It was a really, the color of her poop, I would happily paint a wall in my house. That, okay. All right, listen, you know what, I'm taking the reins.

We're going to the billing department. But seriously, as long as your babies don't okay them, that's fine. That's it, fine. No, you lost, sorry, you're off the show right now. I'm just saying it was a beautiful shade of, I almost saved it for you, but. Let's go.

You don't seem interested. Let's go. Let's go. The medicines, the medicines that ask you lift my God before the mouth. Sydney, how about another question? Let's go. How would you enjoy that?

Here it is. It's coming from Gordon, who asks, one question I have is how much to staring at a computer screen or phone screen really strain your eyes? Is it something older people say to determine or is it legit? Now, before you get into the medicine of this, I would like to answer my personal testimonial.

I work on the internet and then stare at a computer screen a lot every day when I'm not staring at a computer screen a lot to some, some staring at a TV as I review a video game. And I have to say, I started using anti-glair glasses many, many years ago. And there is a palpable difference for me, like 100%

palpable difference when I'm using the the sorts of lenses You could pay a lot for them. You can get actually pretty affordable pairs off Amazon But I I have noticed a change for myself. It has been really helpful Justin you notice that change because there is there is a problem with steering at screens all day Absolutely you can find a lot of talk about computer vision syndrome change because there is a problem with steering at screens all day. Absolutely. You can find a lot of talk about computer vision syndrome, which is really like a collection of different problems that you can have with your eyes related to the fact that many of us spend a lot of time steering at computer screens and phone screens these days.

And it has to do with the kind of information, the amount of kind of detailed information that we're taking in from a computer screen or a phone screen, for our eyes as well as the light from the computer. So yes, it can damage your eyes. And when I say damage your eyes, I mean, cause you problems that can range from just itching, tearing, pain, that kind of thing. I think I even have developed some of that actually. To some more serious vision problems, there are some recommendations.

One thing Justin mentioned to limit that are the glasses that he wears that reduce glare. Gamma ray fleck sight is the type of them that I use. They're reading glasses, but you can get them with zero magnification. They're like 18 bucks a pair on Amazon. I've been using those for a few months. I used to use a much more expensive pair, but I kept losing them.

So you can also use things to reduce the glare from your screen that can help. I found something called the 2020 rule, which a lot of eye doctors, ophthalmologists and optometrists will recommend, which means that for every 20 minutes, you spend staring at a screen. You should look away at something in the distance, like something about 20 feet away for about 20 seconds, and then resume your work. And that can help reduce eye

strain as well. And anytime that you do not, you know, if you do spend your whole day staring at a computer screen, I would try to limit the amount of time you've been spying staring at your phone for fun, especially during the work week. Maybe give your eyes a break from that during the work week. Look at your phone a little bit more on the weekend. But this definitely is a problem. Not necessarily related to, this isn't necessarily about eye strain, but there are also programs you can get in settings like there's a word called flux on the Mac and iPhone has built them functionality called night shift

that can activate in the evening to reduce the amount of blues which is in your screen which is supposed to affect your circadian rhythms. So not necessarily eye strain, you can keep those programs on constantly, though if you would like to do that, which might help. I also saw a recommendation that you could put a post-it note on your computer screen that says, Blink on it to remind you to Blink more often, so to reduce ice terrain, which I have to assume was put there, you know, by the WPN angels. Yeah, the WPN angels, why you didn't?

By the WPN angels put that there. For you to know the doctor would not put that there. The WPN angel put the post at note on your screen that said blank. So don't trust that. Don't trust that. It's a trap. Joel says, your show is so great.

I always laugh. I'm learning new things. You didn't have, you didn't have that. Why did you put that part out? I was just copying the whole question ever, you didn't have one. Why did you put that part out? I was just copying the whole question over you didn't have to read that part. Well, no, I have to. Your show is so great.

I always laugh and learn new things when I listen. Does anyone make sure everybody knew that? I did it. I just, I just was copying the whole question over. My question to you is this, is holding in your sneezes really as bad as it's purported and is it bad like holding in a fart? I think what's interesting about this question, Joel,

let me give you the skinny on this. Holding in your sneezes is probably not a good idea. Now, I do it, a lot of us do. I don't, I just don't, especially in my line of work, if I'm in the room with a patient and then I let out a big sneeze, I feel like they're just... I blast it. I have to get it out there. I feel so good. I feel like they're just. I blast it.

I have to get it out there. I feel so good. I feel like my patients feel like, well, now don't touch me. You know, if I sneeze and then I have to be like, no, it's just allergies. Really? Please, I'm fine. But while most of the time, if you hold in a sneeze, you're going to be fine. I mean, for the vast majority of the time, you're going to be fine.

In theory, yes, holding in a sneeze could cause things as simple and no big deal as, let's say like a burst blood vessel in your eye. So you get like that little subconjunctival hemorrhage, you know, so you get, it looks like you've got a bloody eye, but it doesn't hurt, it doesn't do anything, it goes away. It could be something that minor, but then you read about things like ruptured eardrums

and aneurysms popping and things. Those are probably flukes. Those are probably situations where there was some sort of illness underlying condition that the person didn't know about. They held on a sneeze. There you go. You read this stuff that is very rare, but all things being equal. If you got a sneeze, you got a sneeze just sneeze. It's fine. Now, if you do press, and a lot of people do this, you kind of put your finger, like make a fake mustache, press on your upper lip. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Yeah, you press the bridge of your nose. Exactly. Just bad septum. Is that right? Yeah, yeah. It's cool. But if you apply pressure to your upper lip there, it's really, that's what you're really talking about

in your nose. It's really your upper, I mean, that's where, that's where you need to apply the pressure. That really will stop a sneeze, and that's not the same as holding one in. That once it starts, you can't stop it. You cannot stop a sneeze once it has started. So if you think you've stopped it,

it just hasn't started yet. Just a little fact for you. But if you apply pressure there, because of the, because of the physiology of a sneeze, because a lot of that impulse is an irritant to the nasal passageways that is just being transmitted up through nerve endings in the nose as well as in the facial nerves. If you apply pressure to those facial nerves there and you're in your upper lip and then

the base of your nose, it actually, it like interrupts the signal. It blocks the sneeze signal. So if you get it in there fast enough, you can block the sneeze signal. There is no sneeze that really does work if you get there quick enough. As far as holding an a fart, just to flip this on you, I don't know why you think it's bad. It's probably not. Probably. Well, here's the thing. It's going to come out eventually guys. And if you don't put it at your butt, it's gonna come out your mouth. That's part of the part.

No, that's not. You're not wanting it. No, that's not a thing. It's just gonna come out eventually. So if you're lucky, it'll be a burp. Otherwise, you get eye farts, ear farts. You know? No, that's not, no, those are not things.

It'll seep out your pores. No, it'll just, it'll come out your, it's just gonna come out your butt later. Nick asks, hypothetically speaking, if I took a lot of vitamins and mineral supplements and ate nothing but, say, kelp for 2000 calories, would I be healthy? And that, I mean, Nick, let me ask this, what, what does your heart tell you, Nick? Because my heart says that you probably would not be. That's Nick, let me give you the short answer first. No. The long answer to that is there are things in food that you need that are beyond vitamins and minerals. Beyond things that you can get in supplements. There's all kinds of other fiber for instance and

phyto minerals and things that you like that are in actual, like, the substance of food that you can't get in a pill. So no, you would not be healthy. I would never recommend doing this. It's actually, too, a lot of the vitamins they've looked at head to head. How do you absorb it better? Are you better getting this from food? Are you better getting it in a pill?

Most vitamins our bodies are just better at absorbing it from food. There are a couple that you can safely supplement Especially be vitamins for people who have certain dietary limitations or things they just choose not to eat It is okay, and we actually absorb fairly well in in pill form So if you need them most people don't but if you need them, most people don't, but if you need them, that would be okay, but the vast majority of vitamins and minerals, you're just better off getting from food. And food's delicious. Yeah, food's great. Catch the wave of food.

Here's another question, Sydney, for you, we're running short of time, but I wanna get one more in. Garrett says, I'm 18, I get pimples all the time. I got into a bad habit of popping them. Is there really as bad as people say it is, or is that just something to scare teenagers? Yeah, Garrett, I hate to break this.

I feel like this is like a crossover to still buffering. How to not acne. You really shouldn't pop your pimples. There it is. So the thing is, our hands are dirty, not yours, Garrett. I don't mean your hands are dirty. I mean, like all of our hands. Our hands have bacteria on them.

It's called a regional sin, Garrett. No, no. No. It's like a little bit too much to you. No, our hands are dirty. And when you start squeezing on your face, a couple of things happen. One, you got these bacteria on your hands that can get in your pores, get on your face.

So that's bad. Two, you're applying mechanical pressure and damaging those cells around the area. If you've ever noticed, and I have had pimples in my life, and I have squeezed pimples in my life in my younger days, if you ever notice, when you really mesh at a zit for a while, it usually looks a lot worse. It looks way more inflamed, swollen, the whole that was there before is usually much bigger now, which are all just signs of the mechanical damage you've done to your skin.

If you started to use your nails, now you've done some tearing. Again, you've introduced more bacteria to the site. It's just not a good plan. Don't pop your pimples. They're not all going to scar. I remember somebody telling me that, if you pop them they'll scar. No, I don't mean that all of them will scar. Now you could, you could do enough damage that it could scar, but in general, it's just not the best way to treat pimples. So try to keep hands off. Justin, I've ever told you a story real quick about the time that my dad, when I was a teenager, I was in our bathroom and I was leaned over the sink,

looking at my face real close in the mirror. Like you do when you've got a lot of zits and you're analyzing them very closely, probably popping them like you're not supposed to do. And I didn't have the greatest complexion. My dad came to the door, looked at me for a second and then said, hey, said, you'd be better off if you just took both of your hands

and just squeeze your whole face. And he put both of your hands and just squeeze your whole face and you put both of his hands on each side of his face, like kind of like a chubby bunny thing. So just kind of squeeze the whole thing at once and get it all out of there. No, that's not a good thing to say as a dad, right? To a teenage girl, no. That was a bad, that was a bad, I think I cried and ran to my room and slammed the door and probably screamed like,

oh, hey, I'm never coming out. But she did, folks, and I have proof because she's sitting across from me. Thank you so much for taking the time to listen to our show. We hope you enjoyed it. If you did like it, could you leave us a review on iTunes? Because that's the way people find out about our show. Also, Sydney's got another show called Still Buffering that I think you'll really enjoy on iTunes. she does.

She mentioned it earlier in the show. Thank you, Justin. With her sisters, Taylor and Riley are both very, very funny. And they talk about teen life both today and of yesterday year. And their new episode is about breakups. And you should check it out because you will have a very good time while listening to it. So you can find that on iTunes or wherever fun podcast is sold. And at maximumfund.org, which is the name of a podcast network, where there's a ton of shows that you will enjoy if you take the time to seek them out.

I want to say thank you to the taxpayers for the use of their song Medicines, the intro and outro of our program. You can find their stuff on Bandcamp and buy it. There's a really good, actually alternate version of medicines that we use, like five seconds of in the billing department. It's really good. I was listening to a few days ago. It's great. And is there anything else you want to touch on, Sid? Oh.

We are working on my brother, brother, and me, which is the other podcast that I do, is working on a card game expansion for the card game monik me, which is the other podcast that I do, is working on a card game expansion for the card game Monikers, which is kind of like Shraith, it's really fun. But there are questions in it, there are solbones related. So the expansion is 10 bucks, 35 bucks to get it with the original game.

And if you never played it, sit me back me up. You don't even like games that much. I don't, games make me very nervous because I like to be good at everything and I always worry that I won't be good at them. Monarchers is a really fun game. It is very not stressful for me to play. And you get to act out and try to get people to guess all of these funny things that are

related to all of our shows, but also saw bones if you're a fan of this show, which is really cool. So really, it's a fun game. There are also questions about my sisters, which are really excited about. You can find that at McAroyCollection.com and that's only gonna be available by pre-order. So it's $10 and it's only pre-order for like,

a little less than a month. So McAroyMCEL roycollection.com. Folks, that's gonna do it for us. Thank you so much for listening. And until next week, my name is just McElroy. I'm Sydney McElroy. And as always, don't drill a hole in your head. Alright! Maximumfund.org

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