Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine - Sawbones: Seven-Second Poop Trick

Episode Date: January 14, 2025

It's a real medical (with a lower-case m) mystery, as Dr. Sydnee tries to find the source of a trick on TikTok that reportedly helps alleviate constipation. Join Sydnee on her surprisingly difficult j...ourney to find what exactly this "trick" is to determine whether or not it does anything at all.Music: "Medicines" by The Taxpayers https://taxpayers.bandcamp.com/Palestine Children's Relief Fund: https://www.pcrf.net/

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Sawbones is a show about medical history, and nothing the hosts say should be taken as medical advice or opinion. It's for fun. Can't you just have fun for an hour and not try to diagnose your mystery boil? We think you've earned it. Just sit back, relax, and enjoy a moment of distraction from that weird growth. You're worth it. Alright, this one is about some books. One, two, one, two, three, four.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Two, three, we came across a farm in the middle of the desert. We came across a farm in the middle of the desert. We came across a farm in the middle of the desert. We came across a farm in the middle of the desert. We came across a farm in the middle of the desert. We came across a farm in the middle of the desert. We came across a farm in the middle of the desert. We came across a farm in the middle of the desert.
Starting point is 00:00:34 We came across a farm in the middle of the desert. We came across a farm in the middle of the desert. We came across a farm in the middle of the desert. We came across a farm in the middle of the desert. We came across a farm in the middle of the desert. We came across a farm in the middle of the desert. We came across a farm in the middle of the desert. We came across a farm in the middle of the desert.
Starting point is 00:00:42 We came across a farm in the middle of the desert. We came across a farm in the middle of the desert. We came across a farm in the middle of the desert. We came across a farm in the middle of the desert. We came across a farm in the middle of the desert. We came across a farm in the middle of the desert. We came across a farm in the middle of the desert. Hello everybody and welcome to Saw Bones, bones marital tour of misguided medicine, I'm your co-host Justin McElroy and I'm Sydney McElroy This is our first recording of the year that we've actually physically isn't it? No. No, we did the book club Yeah, we did the book club. Now we're we're easing back in. This is an actual episode. This isn't a book club Yeah, did you get any book recommendations to do? I don't really pay attention to our email. Tons, thank you.
Starting point is 00:01:28 I knew our listeners would have that. I know you all are readers. Should people slow down though? No. Do we have too many? No, not too many, not too many. There's also, I will say, there's a lot of overlap out there.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Yeah. And a couple people have responded saying they read a book we recommended. Which one? Piranesi. Yeah. Yeah, and people have responded saying they read a book we recommended. Which one? Piranesi. Yeah. Yeah. And that they enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Amanda reached out to me about it today. She said, I heard you talk about Piranesi. It's, but she couldn't make up the name. So P-I-R-A-N-E-S-I, Piranesi. Thank you. Is the name of the book. Someone specifically requested that you do that. So I actually, that was really good.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Yes, there is the name of the book, and it's excellent. No, thank you for the book recommendations. There can never be too many. I'm not saying, I can read them all immediately, but that's, I will always welcome those. I knew our listeners would come through with that. No, but I feel like it's time to,
Starting point is 00:02:18 so we need to talk about medicine again, but let's ease into it. There is a- Not capital M medicine. We need is a- Not capital M medicine, we need to talk about lowercase M medicine, right? Popular medicine is what this, that's a thing that's been invented. Popmed.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Popular medicine. Popmed. Which makes sense, there's popular science, right? Yeah. Except, do you know what I think is hard? What? I feel like popular- I would argue our show is popular medicine, by the way.
Starting point is 00:02:42 In the terms that you are talking about popular science, our show is absolutely popular medicine because we are talking about a layman's understanding of the topic, right? Okay, but when you say that about, when I think of the concept popular science, I think like, oh, this is science you're gonna think is cool and I'll break it down for you
Starting point is 00:02:59 because it has some application or importance or meaning in your life or it's just interesting, right? That's popular science. I think the problem is that popular medicine, it has not necessarily been real. I feel like popular medicine includes a lot of pseudoscience. No, but I'm refusing to seed it.
Starting point is 00:03:18 I am claiming Sawbones is the world's number one pop med podcast. You have no idea. What. You have no idea. What? You have no idea. I do. I've done my research. So the number one pop med podcast on the planet
Starting point is 00:03:32 and we are not ceding the term to the phonies and the hucksters and the jive artists and the con artists and the grifters and the shifters and all of them. Okay. All right. Now you can find a lot of those if you're looking for them. So the grifters, the shifters and all of them. All right. Now you can find a lot of those if you're looking for them. So the grifters, you're telling me. On TikTok.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Open a window, oh yeah, on TikTok too. Yeah, not for much longer. No, no, no. I felt like that this was, it was important that we recognize some of the contributions that TikTok has made since we may possibly be seeing it go away, I don't know, maybe. I will say this, I cannot speak to the whole of TikTok,
Starting point is 00:04:10 nor would I. No. Nor would I, but here's what I will say. I think in terms of understanding of accurate medical concepts, TikTok dying may be a net positive in terms of our global understanding of health. Listen, I know what you're saying,
Starting point is 00:04:35 and a lot of people had that same sentiment about Twitter dying, right? But there's a very different TikTok, right? I've seen a lot of great parenting advice on TikTok too, so I don't know. That's what I'm saying. There were a lot of things I learned back when Twitter was Twitter,
Starting point is 00:04:49 and I missed them when it went away. I'm not saying there wasn't toxicity that I was happy to not have to engage with, but it's the same with TikTok. I learn a lot of things, and I also laugh a lot. There's a lot of funny people on TikTok. Now you're leaping into a full-throated offensive TikTok that we swore we would not.
Starting point is 00:05:08 No, I'm not gonna do that. I wanna talk to you about the seven second poop trick. Oh, I, huh? And when I say thank you Melissa, who sent us this recommendation, I think I'm thanking you. It's a thank you for it. No, I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Cause how, this is what TikTok does. It brings you the seven second poop trick. Did maybe. Did, I don't know. We'll see. And you know, this was harder to research than you would think. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:38 It's a TikTok thing. And there is also videos on other platforms. So you would think that would be pretty easy to find. Also it's called the seven second poop trick. It's already ingrained, yeah. Like it feels like something you could Google and just very quickly know everything about. Get the whole deal.
Starting point is 00:05:55 This one was a little tougher. Oh yeah, there's a lot of different seven second poop tricks. Also, it's only seven seconds, so you would think like once you did find it, it would probably only take you about seven seconds to learn about it. Minute to learn, lifetime to master, they say. No, seven seconds.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Seven seconds. Seven seconds. So the idea that you're gonna learn it in seven seconds is extremely, extremely generous. There's probably a lot of training that goes into it. You know, a high dive only takes seven seconds. It's the seven years building up to it where you practice wetness and dryness
Starting point is 00:06:23 and all the different stages. Do you think that's part of the training for high you practice wetness and dryness and all the different stages. Do you think that's part of the training for high diving is wetness and dryness? Yeah, like different, the way the effects are different in different sort of environments. Cause when you're diving, you never know when you're gonna go from dry to wet, but that transition is essential.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I think they know it's when they hit the pool. Also, they have to practice rolling out of the pool in cool ways, because a lot of people, the camera's cut away, but when you get out of the pool, everyone's got a signature climb out that they do. You said rolling out of the pool. They usually do that, it's more of a flop, and then they'll just kind of roll,
Starting point is 00:06:57 just like the same way I get out of the pool every time. No, they don't. Kind of roll on the flop. We've got way more muscles than we do. Seven second poop trick. Yes, so Melissa sent a video that was helpful to get me on, to start my journey. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:12 And it's interesting because it's a video that is about the hack and it's labeled the seven second poop trick. And so then you watch this user go through the whole video, but you don't actually get the hack. Oh, you hate that. Don't you hate that? Hate that.
Starting point is 00:07:29 That happens a lot. I hate that. I find that very frustrating. So you said the story, I think, is part of understanding this. And this story became something I heard a lot in my research. So this very nice woman in the video explains
Starting point is 00:07:43 that back in 2019, her mom had to go to the hospital, was rushed to the hospital for severe constipation. A fart attack. Constipation. You're not necessarily farting if you're constipated. That's true, that's true. And in this case, you probably wouldn't be because it sounded like she was saying
Starting point is 00:08:01 her mom was obstipated, obstipation. It just means you're so constipated, you're blocked up. You're obstructed. It's an obstacle. It's an obstacle to pooping. Yes. So she was completely blocked up.
Starting point is 00:08:13 She'd gone to the, and she says she had gone to the doc a few times leading up to this. The timeline's a little weird. At first she says after three days, which we generally don't have to go to the hospital if we haven't pooped in three days. I would. Really?
Starting point is 00:08:28 You would go to the hospital? If I didn't poop in three days, I would go to the hospital because something has gone terribly wrong. This is a you thing. Terribly wrong. This is not a medical you. I'm absolutely the, day two,
Starting point is 00:08:43 I'm like standing outside like, I don't know, maybe I should squeak it in this afternoon. This is not a medical year. I'm absolutely in the, day two, I'm like standing outside like, I don't know, maybe I should squeak it in this afternoon. This is not widely applicable. Okay. So she had gone to the doc a few times and they'd given her some things to try, like prune juice, fiber supplements, they prescribed her some laxatives, the usual stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Now in this, I will say on a side note, she says that at first the doctor told her to try fiber supplements and castor oil. And that for me was a bit of a red flag in terms of like how valid is whatever medical thing I'm about to hear. That the doctor prescribed castor oil. Because we don't, I mean, and now let me say this.
Starting point is 00:09:24 There are a lot of weird people in this world and some of them are doctors. That's true And they very well may well have gone to a doctor and the doctor said take castor oil I believe that I I've heard a lot of stuff out there But that is not an evidence-based treatment for constipation. Yes, if you went to medical school in the 1800s, maybe. Maybe. But that's not something that, I mean, so for me, when I hear that,
Starting point is 00:09:51 like the doctor told me to take castor oil, I'm at least gonna raise an eyebrow. I mean, it's possible. I'm not saying it's not true. No, no, no, no, no. It's possible. But again, we don't use castor oil standardly in the treatment of constipation or anything.
Starting point is 00:10:04 So anyway, her mom tried all this stuff and finally she was in such pain We don't use castor oil standardly in the treatment of constipation or anything. So anyway, her mom tried all this stuff and finally she was in such pain that she had to go to the hospital. And according to the user, the patient had 20 pounds of poop surgically removed from her colon. According to this story.
Starting point is 00:10:27 There's lots of imagery in all the, I watched a lot of videos. No, thank you. No, no, no, I gotta tell you, no listen, what they do is they have like sort of diagrams of intestines. Doodoo grams. I can't, I'm not, I will not give you a laugh for that.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Come on. I refuse, I refuse. Doodoo refuse. No. So they have a lot of diagrams of intestines and they're sort of showing like, see look, it's blocked here or whatever. But then to like evoke the thought of poop, they have like other things being pushed through tubes.
Starting point is 00:11:02 So like a big muddy ditch or- Sorry, say it five more times. It's very strange. Sorry, if you could say five more times. What is it they use again? Big muddy ditch. To represent the- Colon and poop.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And sometimes it's like just like one of those industrial, like something being compressed with a, like, you know, the kids like those ASMR videos where they just crush things with a thing. We all know what you're talking about. Yeah, okay. Anyway, it's weird the things people are like, we'll show a bunch of pictures of that.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Hydraulic press. Yes. There it is. We'll show a bunch of pictures of that while we're talking about poop because we can't show you poop, but we'll show you this. And you get it, you get it. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:11:42 And then there's subway surfers, just like in the corner. But then she says that this is actually a very common problem that you might be walking around with 10 to 20 pounds of poop in your colon. No. And that she knows the secret and then eventually you get to the end of the video
Starting point is 00:11:57 and she's like click the button at the bottom of the video. Right. Heartbreaker. Now here is what was hard for me. So first of all, I initially watched that, and then I was like, well, I'm gonna go try to find out about this. And I didn't click the button because I'm not gonna do that.
Starting point is 00:12:12 I never clicked the button. Very smart. I don't click the button. Don't click the button. But then I couldn't, I was having trouble finding an answer. So you went back to the button. So I went back to click the button, but there wasn't a button.
Starting point is 00:12:24 So in that video. So there was the button, but there wasn't a button. So in that video. So there was a button before, there wasn't now? No, I just hadn't, I assumed it was in the comments. And so I went to the comments to look for the button and there was no button. And so then I start like trying to find other videos or other platforms of this original video to find the button.
Starting point is 00:12:44 So is it like the button you're worried might have been lost in the editing process at some point They had a button at the end of the video that you're thinking maybe got cut off and now this poor lost Poop trick vid is just wandering around. Is that the reality you've constructed for me squid? I don't know. Like you you it's just an orphaned poop trick. Like we lost this, this is lost knowledge. This is gone. We've lost this trick. Tell me you reclaimed it. I was watching it on TikTok
Starting point is 00:13:10 and I think this video exists on like YouTube and Facebook reels and all over different platforms, right? And so like I'm watching it on TikTok and I get, and I'm like down at the bottom of the TikTok looking like there's no. That's how they're getting ready to talk. They're actually starting with the buttons. That's how they're banning it. They're starting with buttons first and how they're getting ready to talk. There's no button. They're actually starting with the buttons. That's how they're banning it.
Starting point is 00:13:25 They're starting with buttons first and then they're working backwards from there. It may be something like that where it just starts to slowly fail. But anyway, so I'm like down at the bottom of the video, like where's our button? And then I click on the little round circle in the bottom right of the video,
Starting point is 00:13:41 but that's just the sound in the video. Right, that's other people who've heard the tail of the poop trick, but that's just the sound in the video is what that is. That's other people who've heard the tail of the poop trick, but do not possess the knowledge themselves. This is where you realize that as much as I do enjoy TikTok, I only have a very surface level understanding of what is happening other than how to swipe up and down through the videos.
Starting point is 00:13:57 I've got that part. Anyway. I don't like on TikTok when you're scrolling through your friends' videos and they seem to have made a video that is very funny, but then really it's not them. They just reused someone else's funny sound. I don't enjoy that. You don't enjoy that?
Starting point is 00:14:15 I think everyone should cope with their own funny sounds. You did famously take a sound that you didn't make and put it on TikTok and it went viral. Yes, yes, that's correct. That is sort of a meta level to what I was saying there that I did not realize until the end. Okay, so as I'm looking for, I can't find the button, so I keep looking for more videos.
Starting point is 00:14:38 I really didn't think so much of this episode would be about you trying to find the trick. And I, yeah, I mean, it was hard. I'm gonna get to the, I'm gonna tell you the trick. I know this feels like I'm doing what the videos did. I'm gonna get to the trick. And I, yeah, I mean, it was hard. I'm gonna get to the, I'm gonna tell you the trick. I know this feels like I'm doing what the videos did. I'm gonna get to the trick. And then- Right after this.
Starting point is 00:14:48 I'm gonna give you bonus tricks. There's lots of tricks. Right after the billing department. But it was wild because I found videos where, first of all, there was the same user sort of retelling the story in different ways, only sometimes she was the one who had the surgical poop emergency,
Starting point is 00:15:06 and other times it was a family member. So that is not that weird for TikTok, right? So TikTok doesn't wanna punish, like, a lot of algorithms like this. You're not necessarily trying to create the best version of it where you think it's the best version of an ad, right? What you're doing is a version of, like,
Starting point is 00:15:23 what you'd see in newspaper headline or online headlines was like AB testing where they would put up two different versions of the headline and the one that got the most clicks, they would generally let the other one sort of die off and they'd start using the one that got more clicks, right? This is a similar thing with TikTok creators who are trying to sell stuff where like, they'll oftentimes create many different versions
Starting point is 00:15:44 of the same one because they don't know algorithmically what's gonna, because it's not about like, what's most fun to watch the whole thing, right? It's like, what hooks you in those first like, half a second, what the algorithm's gonna support, you know? I've seen a lot of people do that that seem to be like, the same content just repeated over and over again, hoping that something gets picked up. But what's hard is that if this is supposed to be like the same content just repeated over and over again, hoping that something gets picked up.
Starting point is 00:16:05 But what's hard is that if this is supposed to be a medical story and you are telling it in first person, this happened to me. It should be pretty much the same time every time you tell it. Well, and if you change it, then it immediately becomes apparent that it's not true. Or at least, I mean, why do I believe any version of it
Starting point is 00:16:23 is true if there's multiple versions of it so then I don't know what's true. And then why doesn't that undermine your confidence in the advice that's gonna follow, I would think. So I also found other users telling pretty much the same story, like very clearly other users. Like, yeah, and so like the story, again, the details get shifted around a little bit each time,
Starting point is 00:16:44 but more or less if somebody tries as much stuff for constipation and goes to the hospital again the details get shifted around a little bit each time But more or less that somebody tries much stuff for constipation goes to the hospital They have 10 20 in one case. This guy was like there were 40 pounds of poop in my intestines Yeah, and that he Also and some of them start to make other wilder claims because like you feel awful It feels awful, which is true Like that's a very easy thing to say like when you're really constipated, it feels bad. Sure, yeah, okay, fair. But then he's like, also that constipation can cause diabetes or dementia
Starting point is 00:17:10 or alternative colitis or there's all kinds of serious conditions. Also, maybe there's a parasite hiding in there and you could get serious infections. Also, at one point- Why is it the parasite? If I have a parasite, why do I have all this poop? Well, there's different, that's another episode.
Starting point is 00:17:24 But then also there are things like, at one point he's like, also it makes you look like you weigh more than you do. Like that gets thrown in there. And I'm like, wow, they're just hitting everything here. They're like anything that people might click on. No, I will say this. And say bye. I can't say scientifically about the appearance,
Starting point is 00:17:41 but I will say from a technical perspective, he is true. I mean, those pounds of poop are in there. Like, that is part of it. But there are not, there is not, okay, you do not have 40 pounds of poop in your cold. I know that, but I'm saying, if you did, it would be in you. I did enjoy, I saw, there was somebody who said they were a surgeon commenting on one of the videos who was just like, there is no possible way, just like very angrily.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I don't know if they were a surgeon or not, but it did feel to me that the way a surgeon would approach this, like, this is the dumbest, like we know it's the... We have to keep doing that though. Just keep putting true stuff out. Okay, so I still haven't gotten to the seven second poop trick and we are gonna have to take a break now and that did feel like a...
Starting point is 00:18:26 I knew you were gonna do it. I love you so much. I'm taking you... I want you to experience the journey I went on, listeners. I want you to... You're coming with me on this journey. That's good, Barnum. You got him.
Starting point is 00:18:35 You hooked these suckers. See you after the capitalism, you soaks. Don't say that. The medicines, the medicines that escalate my cough for the mouth. Okay, welcome back. Cindy, you're finally going to teach me this trick. I know, I know. I feel really bad. That was not intentional. I just, I just want, I was trying to give this, I think it's interesting that it's this hard to find.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Yeah. And I will say that, okay, let's get into the trick. And then I'm gonna talk about why I think there's a culture ripe for this. Here is the trick. And I found, as I went through, there were a lot of different seven second poop tricks out there.
Starting point is 00:19:22 So initially, and I'm gonna walk you through what I thought each one was until I get to what I think might be the real answer. If any of them are real. Some were very surface level, like you click on a seven second poop trick and it's just selling you a supplement, right? Some were very clearly like,
Starting point is 00:19:36 okay, this is just click bait. Here's some fiber pills, here's a powder, whatever. Okay. I'm gonna say also, if it takes you seven seconds to swallow a pill, I don't know what you're doing. You need a few seconds to build up the courage or what? A lot of them are like, sprinkle this powder on your food before you eat it.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Again, I could do that in two seconds, no problem. There is a lot of- I'm just envisioning it now. There are a lot of very specific belly massages out there that claim to be the seven second poop trick. Like rub your belly in this way, or you can go to someone who specializes in belly massages to get things moving inside the belly. And these are not, I should say-
Starting point is 00:20:12 Lainey the Pooh is very good for that, I've heard. His tummy rubs. He does tummy rubs. Well, and let me just say that this is separate from, there is an osteopathic manipulative therapy, OMT, which is practiced by doctors of osteopathy. There are specific, I've seen people do this. I've had colleagues who are DOs,
Starting point is 00:20:31 who are trained in specific maneuvers where you do put your hands on someone's abdomen and do certain things to try to encourage constipation, be relieved. That's not what I'm talking about. This is not me throwing shade on OMT. These are just like rub your stomach this way kind of massages, right? Like no one is claiming any expertise in these videos. If anyone has a degree they're
Starting point is 00:20:52 not talking about it. It's just rub your belly. There was another user who just said, oh well the seven second hack is that you just lean over while you're on the toilet and strain really hard for seven seconds. Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude Don't push it to eight or you'll rip it half If that was a trick first of all Everyone who's ever been constipated has tried that Quit after six seconds and be like there's no hope But but the other thing is we we very specifically encourage you not to strain.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Yeah. And so that would obviously not, that didn't make sense to me. There was another one, a user who demonstrated, while still clothed and everything, a hack where, okay, if you can imagine this, you sit on the toilet, okay, and then you cross one leg over another. I don't know if it matters which way, this is not specified. And then you kind of turn your body, I don't know, I don't move away from the mic,
Starting point is 00:21:49 turn your body around in the direction you crossed your leg and put your opposite hand on the wall behind you. So I'm demonstrating that I've crossed my left leg over my right, I'm reaching over my right shoulder with my left hand, and I'm gonna touch. And she's trying to keep her mouth pointed at the microphone. And I'm gonna that I've crossed my left leg over my right I'm reaching over my right shoulder with my left hand and she's gonna touch pointed at the microphone Uh-huh, and I'm gonna touch the wall behind me while Pooping and that's going to help me that is everyone
Starting point is 00:22:15 And I guess that might take you seven seconds just to like it took you 20 to just describe that I would think so What else you got? Okay, there was another one who, this was somebody who I think practices acupuncture, and this one, actually I found several articles that claimed that this is the seven second poop trick, what was described in this video. I do not think this was the original seven second poop trick, I think this is a copycat.
Starting point is 00:22:39 I'm sorry? Seven second poop trick. Yeah, there's just no way that the seven seconds is seven seconds where you're getting needles shoved into you. Well, it's not acupuncture, it's acupressure. Oh, right, okay, that makes a lot more sense. This person does practice acupressure, but they-
Starting point is 00:22:54 Acupressure spot, where in seven seconds you could apply that pressure. Except as, now let me just say, as Justin is saying this, he's pushing on his belly as if he assumed that the acupressure spot would be somewhere in the abdomen. I know. It is not. So I know that that is actually not the way acupressure works, because it's more like
Starting point is 00:23:13 energy-chi based, right? So it's more sort of the reflexology mapping idea. Exactly. Now this one is not feet. I know a lot of people think reflexology immediately think feet, yeah. I'm just meant that this gets in between the geography and the energies. Exactly. So what this trick tells you to do, and this was, like I said, I found several like popular
Starting point is 00:23:32 med articles out there that were like wellness bloggers and people wrote where they were like, this is the seven second poop trick. This is not the original. I think that that must have started trending seven second poop trick and other people just started tagging onto it anyway in this trick you see you take your hands make them into two fists okay and you're gonna put them like thumbs towards each other put them together and rub them for seven seconds that's it and that's gonna make you poop okay I gotta okay. I gotta go. Sid, finish on your own.
Starting point is 00:24:06 That one, it was interesting because they, like, for one of the articles they, like, interviewed a GI doc to say, like, what do you think? And it's, I mean, I can't even imagine having to be like, I have no, why I don't, I mean, like, is this harmful? No, I don't know. That's, you can do that in a seven-second side of your day. I guess you might, is this harmful? No, I don't know. You can do that in a seven seconds out of your day, I guess you might, you know. But anyway, and then there was another one that I enjoyed where the person doing the video has like a model, basically,
Starting point is 00:24:40 they're using another person to demonstrate this on and they have someone laying down on their back, stomach exposed, like abdomen exposed. And he says, draw like, not literally draw, but make a diagonal line between the navel and your right hip. So like if you imagine there's a line from there to there, the middle of it, put your fingers there
Starting point is 00:24:58 and massage for seven seconds. And what he says you're doing is that that is the iliocecal valve, that it's connecting your small large intestine and it's blocked and so by massaging it you're opening it and He says and if it doesn't work the first time don't worry. Just keep doing it about twice a day Every day until you poop which I love it because it's probably you will. I mean, most of the time constipation relieves itself. Like yes, occasionally people do need
Starting point is 00:25:32 to go seek medical attention, but most of the time you're constipated and then it alleviates. So probably you could do this twice a day for a couple of days and then you would poop. It would almost certainly have nothing to do with this, but. Yeah, whatever the seven seconds were right before that happened that's your seven second trick. What I finally found was on another GI health sort of blog website where they like collect different topics and articles and then people write about
Starting point is 00:25:57 them and I finally found there what I think was the original description of the video. I think what happened is the original video was an ad that got like, I assume eventually they just don't run anymore, right? Like you pay for them. So I think the video that I couldn't find the button for was an ad. And then it was gone.
Starting point is 00:26:16 And so I can't find the ad, which maybe tells us all we need to know it's an ad. But here's the step-by-step guide to the original, I think, seven-second poop trick. I don't wanna make, I am not like a great internet, in terms of the history of the internet and chasing down videos, I'm good at medical research. When it comes to this area of research,
Starting point is 00:26:37 I know there are people out there who are really great at it, right? Like tracking down, where did those weird internet ideas, memes, trends, where did it come from? Not necessarily my area of expertise, but I'm pretty sure this is the original seven second poop trick. I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:26:50 So Dr. Sam came up with this, who is a GI doc according to the literature around it. I don't know any of this to be true or false. I'm just reporting to you what is written. So first, you're gonna drink a full glass of room temperature water upon waking in the morning. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:11 You can, that is noted later, you can add some apple cider vinegar to this. And there's an entire argument for why this might be helpful to you. But the important thing is drinking the room temperature water. Okay. Second, while you're still in bed,
Starting point is 00:27:23 you're gonna do some stretches to increase blood flow, reduce muscle stiffness, and support your digestive system. So stretch, drink water, stretch. Number three, there's a specific yoga pose, which is usually referred to as the wind relieving pose that makes sense if you- I'm looking at a picture of it.
Starting point is 00:27:43 It's kind of like you lie on your back with your knees brought into your chest. Yes. Kind of like when Austin Powers pretends to be a nut inside the nut. There you go, yeah, like that. What you're trying to do is compress your colon and release gases.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Squeeze it out. And squeeze it out. You're trying to squeeze it out, yeah. And then do some Breath work basically do some diaphragmatic breathing. There's some specific techniques that Are recommended to do but it's basically Relaxing your body increasing oxygenation doing a doing some breathing work. Okay, I mean I That if you did that every day
Starting point is 00:28:25 I mean, if you did that every day, poop or not, I think you'd be living a happier life. I bet you'd be a little bit happier if we all started our days this way. I think we would all be killing it. I thought this was very, it was disappointing to me how mundane the seven second poop trick turned out to be because I agree with you. There's nothing, I mean, we could talk about apple cider
Starting point is 00:28:44 vinegar for an entire episode, because we did I mean, we could talk about apple cider vinegar for an entire episode, because we did. We did a whole episode on apple cider vinegar. And I, you know, we said it in the episode before, and I would say it again, there really is no evidence that taking a teaspoon or tablespoon or whatever you're drinking in the morning of apple cider vinegar is having some sort of impact on your health,
Starting point is 00:29:02 positively or negatively, really. I can't, I don't have evidence to claim either. So if you like the taste of it, okay. But the water is important. It's important to drink water, to stay hydrated. Stretching is good. Doing things like yoga that stretch and strengthen your body, that gets you moving,
Starting point is 00:29:23 that make you feel more relaxed and centered. These are all positive things. There's nothing wrong with any of that advice. Breathing work. that stretch and strengthen your body, that gets you moving, that make you feel more relaxed and centered. These are all positive things. There's nothing wrong with any of that advice. Breathing work, I mean, these are all, I would say that that probably all takes more than seven seconds. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:33 I mean, you're really chugging that water. Yeah. If you're drinking an entire glass of water and all this in seven seconds. Maybe you can do each of these things in seven seconds. It's like several seven seconds, you know? Yeah. Seven seconds of water drinking, seven seconds of stretches,
Starting point is 00:29:47 seven seconds of Austin Power Yoga, seven seconds of deep breathing, you know what I mean? And then you just like sit on the toilet. It's really interesting, because if it was an ad, there had to have been something to sell. Now, I don't know what that original product was. I can imagine that there are, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:30:06 but I could imagine that it could be some sort of gut health supplement. There's lots of those out there, right? Things that people sell that tell you that they support gut health. It could be a book or some sort of video series, something that you're teaching you techniques, possibly. I don't know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:24 So if you're operating completely in the theoretical year, it could be a one act play.'t know, I don't know. So if you're operating completely in the theoretical here, it could be a one act play. I mean, we don't know. Well, I mean, probably not. It could be a serial. Well, but it's interesting because when I hear seven second poop trick, I think, well, oh, this is not, well, no, I don't.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Yes, it's funny, but I also think like, well, that's not real. Like immediately just the title of it makes me think you're just gonna try to get me to buy something. The first time that you heard there's a special stool that you put your feet on to poop better, you probably thought that was pretty silly too. That's true too. And there are advantages to different positioning
Starting point is 00:30:56 while you're going to the bathroom. As you reference the squatty potty, a stool that you put your feet on to kind of bring your knees up higher as you poop can be beneficial if you're, to help keep you from straining because like we said, we don't want you to. Why is this out there?
Starting point is 00:31:08 We've done an episode on constipation before, but I will say that everything they're drawing on in these videos is old stuff. We have been obsessed with pooping as long as we've been pooping as a species. And so always. I think that it feels bad to be constipated and so we seek solutions for it, that's normal.
Starting point is 00:31:28 The idea that if you don't go to the bathroom regularly, the stuff building up inside you is creating some sort of like toxic milieu that will make you sick, that's a really old idea and has been blamed on all, I mean like all kinds of different illnesses have been blamed on constipation through the years. We've done a whole episode on Kellogg,
Starting point is 00:31:46 who among many terrible, terrible acts and deeds was also obsessed with constipation and obsessed with the dangers to your health of not pooping and prescribed all kinds of things to alleviate it. We know that there are real medical conditions that can cause you to be severely constipated or obstipated, and it does need to be addressed and as
Starting point is 00:32:05 Always if you are somebody who is regularly Fighting this problem, please go talk to your provider and and figure out if there's something else You need to be doing yeah for most of us constipation is something you just occasionally get irritated by and then it alleviates on its own and it's certainly not causing all of these other diseases and Fixing it is not the cure-all that I think a lot of people claim it to be. So the best advice is probably not too different from the seven second poop trick.
Starting point is 00:32:35 There it is. Hydration is important, a well-balanced diet with fiber in it is important and also staying active. I think a lot of times constipation becomes something we struggle with more, maybe, as we become less active in our life. It's associated a lot with becoming elderly. Not all elderly people are sedentary,
Starting point is 00:32:51 but if you have pains and arthritis and stuff, it can get harder to be up and moving. And just being active can help. Not necessarily even an exercise, but just getting up and moving regularly can be helpful. But that is the seven second poop trick. Or at least one of them, somewhere in there is the seven second poop trick.
Starting point is 00:33:10 You will find a lot of them out there. I think that this is just, if something's catching, everybody wants to get on that poop bandwagon. Hey, thank you so much for listening to our podcast. We hope that you are hanging in there, and we really that you are hanging in there and we really appreciate you coming back and visiting with us every single week.
Starting point is 00:33:31 We hope that you are happy to be here as well. Thank you so much to Maximum Fun for having us as a part of their podcasting family. Also, thanks to the taxpayers. Speaking of the taxpayers who did make our intro song They have a new album coming out called circle breaker. That's coming on March 25th, you can follow them on Instagram the underscore taxpayers. That's exciting That's gonna do it first for this week. It's the next time. My name is just Mack. Roy. I'm Sydney Mack
Starting point is 00:34:02 Roy always don't drill a hole in your head. All right!

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.