Sawbones: A Marital Tour of Misguided Medicine - Sawbones: Sunburns

Episode Date: June 25, 2015

This week on Sawbones, Justin and Sydnee want you to get your D in the safest way humanly possible. Music: "Medicines" by The Taxpayers

Saubones is a show about medical history, and nothing the hosts say should be taken as medical advice or opinion. It's for fun. Can't you just have fun for an hour and not try to diagnose your mystery boil? We think you've earned it. Just sit back, relax, and enjoy a moment of distraction from that weird growth. You're worth it. that weird growth. You're worth it. Alright, time is about to books! One, two, one, two, three, four! I'm everybody welcome to Saul Bones, made all tour of misguided medicine. I'm your co-host Justin McElroy and I'm Sydney McElroy Sydney, what's wrong? I'm just I mean I don't know I don't want to talk about it

I don't want to I don't want to Come on, go on and say it everybody else on the internet said that you might as well say it to I just you know last week's episode, it was, I mean, it seemed to be really popular. Yeah. Like a lot of people really liked it and said really nice things. And I'm not saying that they don't say that about our show when you're on it. Well, in fiction, I was on it to be fair. I was just in the body before you know, girl.

Right. Sure. Uh-huh. That was the case I'm I'm just saying that when it's you in your own body with your own voice people aren't necessarily is I Don't mean they don't like it. They're just not as like enthusiastic about our show I'm gonna be honest especially for the star of the show and we're like Mary and we should be supportive of stuff That was a pretty sick burn. There's a lot of burning going on right now. Well, you know what could have helped you with that burn. What, Sydney?

If you would have worn sunscreen. Wow, wow. That's like a double burn on, I guess. Is it on on on both of us, I guess? If you're asking medically, if that was a double burn, that's not a thing. You're second to agree burns, but there's not a double burn. I know there's not a double burn.

Okay, sunscreen, fine. Sydney, I've got a double burn. Okay, this, okay, fine. Intro over, we're talking about sunburns. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. It's all right, it's a really good pause. You start to the show, I'm really into it. I am glad that you're back.

Mm-hmm, I did miss you. I'm going on a long, long, long history. And I love you. Mm-hmm. And our child is glad you're back. I did miss you. I'm going on the lawn. Yes, yes, yes. And I love you. And our child is glad you're back. And even Riley is glad you're back. Probably. I think so thanks to the people who suggested this topic.

And here it is. No more need to denigrate Justin. Well, I'll tell you who the people are. You suggested this episode. Let's not just thank them in general. Let's name them Yeah, all right. Thank you. I'm not gonna help you. I'm not gonna keep up You're not gonna help at all. Okay. All right. Thank you to Jackson and Tina and Anthony and Nicholas for suggesting Some variety of this topic that I included you all because you suggested either sunburns or sunscreen or

you all because you suggest that either sun burns or sunscreen or sun tanning and we're just going to talk about it all because it's summer. Summer time. Summer time. Summer time. Which is great except for in the summer everybody forgets that they haven't been outside all year long. Right, you're so happy to get out there and get that D. And the first thing they do is go outside and hang out in the sun all day and get some burnt. That's a big problem, so I think we should talk about it. Sounds good, Sid, hit me. Okay, so it's been known for a while that there is a link between skin damage and sun exposure. We didn't really understand it.

We just knew that if you're out in the sun and the heat for a long time, sometimes it hurt. You know, your skin hurt. Got it. It got red and it would peel off. But we thought it had something to do with the heat mainly. Yeah, it makes sense. Your skin feels hot afterwards, so.

Exactly. And that's up. That tracks for me. Exactly, and we didn't really understand anything else about the sun, other than that it was bright and there was heat. Then of course, like we liked the sun sun because a lot of cultures, ancient cultures, especially, would worship the sun. Right.

So, you know, and we didn't understand anything about like UV rays or anything. That wasn't until like the 1800s when we figured out like ultraviolet light and the spectrum of light and like that there are things like rays from the sun that hurt us, that have nothing to do with like the heat itself. So how did sort of ancient cultures sort of adapt to this? It's interesting because as you kind of go through history, people would come up with ways to protect themselves from the sun to varying degrees kind of based on what a lot of it was based on what was considered beautiful. So, for a long time pale skin was kind of the ideal. You wouldn't want to look like you spend a lot of time outside.

And a lot of that had to do with just the connotation that if you did have a tan or if you were certainly if you're a burnt and you spend a lot of time outside then you're a laborer Okay, and so the upper classes would be inside and so they wouldn't have tans you want soft tans soft hands makes it for a cool guy Or a soft hands makes for a cool guy or lady as they say where did who says that? It's an old saying from the old times. I have never heard that in And well, it's translated loosely from hieroglyphs, so hieroglyphics. So you're a cool guy. Did you make that up?

I have rough hands. I've been building a swing set all day for Charlie. So I have rough laborers hands. Justin has developed rough laborers hands in one day from building a swing set. So Sydney, how was I handling the Egypt? Since they felt that pale skin was the ideal, they would try to protect theirself from the sun,

knowing that it did, I mean, they recognized there was a color change in their skin after being out in the sun. So they would lighten their skin with like, mer and frankincense and actually even die at sometimes with like a yellow ochre that you would rub into your skin and would make it appear paler. They also use a kind of ancient sunscreen,

which was made of jasmine and rice. And there was actually in the rice brand, there is a chemical that absorbs UV light and can help restore damaged DNA. So there actually was some like, man, dry. Dry out your cell phone, make delicious treats when I had toasted and added had a martiannello.

What can't rice do? Rice is the closest we have to a cure all. If you are a phone or you are a skin or you are hungry. No, but also if you're not, if you're trying to limit your carbohydrates, don't. No, it's correct. That's true. So then bad, then not rice. Not good.

In Greece, they also attempted to kind of protect themselves from the sun. Specifically, you know, I always picture like the ancient Olympics and there are all these, I mean, they were men. There was men, I say men just because only men were a lot of participate. And they were all like doing their athletics and they were naked.

Like, you know that right? I'm not making that up. That's not new. Yeah, like they're naked Olympics and they were naked. Like, you know that right, I'm not making that. Right, that's not new. Yeah, like they're naked Olympics, and they were all oiled up. That's like true, they would rub all of oil all over themselves. For the sun damage. Yes, to protect themselves from the sun. Does that work?

No. No, I mean, somewhat, but no. It's probably better than nothing, and at the very least you'll end up delicious. Yes, better than nothing, and your skin would be great. I mean like that, you know, moisturizing and good for your skin. But all in all, is that like your ideal sunscreen? Is that what you want to use today?

No. But it does give us the image of all these like hunky Greek athletic dudes. Yeah. Oiled up. I'm ready to move on. Throwing, throwing discoses. Disc guy to move on. Throwing, throwing discuses. Disky, I think. Throwing disky.

The Native Americans also had their own version of sunscreen. You, well, actually, their own version of treating a sunburn. You could mix himlock with deer fat, and that would help treat your sunburn. If it was too late, if you already had one, you could also try plantains. Oh, just to eat them or? Well, no, like mash them up and put on your skin. Topical plantains.

Topical plantains, although on that note, you should try plantains if you have... Yeah, I mean, if you have it, they're delicious. They're really yummy. Yeah, this and many other food recommendations right here on Salva's, the medical histories. I'm just saying plantains are delicious. They're really yummy. Yeah. This and many other food recommendations right here on Salmon's. A medical history. I'm just saying plantains are delicious. They are. They're not like bananas though. Don't be confused. Don't just eat one. Don't just eat one. I think it's going to be banana

S because it's not. I mean, you'll know right away. They're much harder to peel. So, you know, if it's a banana and you're having a hard time peeling, it's probably a plantain. Should we talk about how to fix plantains or or maybe move on to the next thing you want to talk about. Either way, I'm like good. Okay, I really like plantains. Yeah, I mean, do you have plantain chips? Fry them up. Hmm. Who boy? Mashed plantains? I could go on like the bubble gum of plantains if you'd like.

Or we could move on to the next like thing. For a long time, like I said, avoiding a tan was important because then you were showing off that you didn't have to labor on the sun and specifically women were supposed to be fair or scanned as a mark of beauty. So for instance, you're up during the middle ages, women would cover themselves up, like wimples, women would cover themselves up, you know, like wimples that, like, women would wear, like, over their heads. Okay.

Like, the little like, cloths on their head, like, nuns wear. Got it. Except that, you know, like, old, olden times, ladies would wear over their heads and it protect you from the sun so that you could kind of stay pale, which was associated with more money. In Japan, they would actually use like, some white powder, do you even lighten their skin? I know this isn't really sun, but just kind of the idea associated with more money. In Japan, they would actually use like some white powders.

Do you even lighten their skin? I know this isn't really sun, but just kind of the idea that pale skin was somewhat beautiful. They would use these powders to lighten their skin, which is not a good idea. Don't use letter mercury-based powders on your skin. In China, it was even like a recommendation, like ancient beauty recommendation that you

should wear like dark blue clothing because it would highlight your skin, like it would make it look paler. Oh, does that work? I don't know. Which, a more of a fashion question, I guess. Yeah. I don't know. Well, I guess contrast.

Yeah, sure. Yeah, high contrast, you're right. So anyway, fair was in. And I only mentioned this just because I think that as we're moving forward, you're going to agree with me that that's not necessarily still the trend. But we spend. Well, with vasolates, I feel like Pio has its moment sometimes.

I'm going to make a case for that. OK. Yeah. And then so fair skin is in. It's a beauty idea. Everybody's trying to protect themselves. We don't really know how, except for as we move forward, we start to see like the use of sunlight to treat things.

So the idea that maybe sunlight is good for you starts to become commonplace. So the best example being tuberculosis. We talked a lot, and we did a whole show on tuberculosis. And if you remember, because we had no idea what to do for it, we would like sit TB patients out in the sun. Let me just sit here in the sun. Dry them out. This is probably good for you.

Well, there was like the dry climate thing, but just like sun in general, we thought. And I think, I mean, I guess that's nice. Like if we're not going to cure your TB, you can at least spend some time in the sun. Eat your D. Just toast out there. Well, there was. That was another, but that you mentioned vitamin D, but that was something else we started to discover was a link between sunlight

and vitamin D and lack of vitamin D and rickets. And so then we started thinking like, well, maybe the sun isn't all that bad. Maybe it's not this negative thing that hurts your skin. It's got a bummer app all these years. Right. But the beauty thing still held a lot of people back from spending time out in the sun because if you wanted to look fancy, you were pale. Right. Until after the industrial revolution. What happened then, son?

Well, that's when people started, that was when leisure time was invented. Pfft. Before that it very worked. And then we invented leisure. Well, that's really true. There really were like, I mean, yeah, there were a lot of human history. before that it very worked and then we invented leisure. Well, that's really true. There really were like, I mean, yeah,

there were a lot of human history. I mean, think about it. Like for most of human history, we've been just trying to survive, man. Yeah. Like hunt and gather. Stay alive so that future generations could emit leisure.

Exactly. So the actual industrial evolution, there could be really rich people who would say like, I have all this time on my hands and I don't have work to do. What should I do? And somebody was like, I don't know, be leisurely? I appreciate the gesture. Past generations, I really do.

I know I give you guys a hard time, but I really enjoyed leisure now. So thank you for that. Thank you for inventing leisure time. Thank you for inventing leisure. And where do you go for leisure time, but the beach, right? Or somebody that had to figure that all out. The sea side somewhere. Leisure time was still in its prototype phase.

They tried a lot of things, maybe they went to forest, they went to caves. Nothing. Are you enjoying yourself? I'm not. This does not feel leisurely to me. No, I was just thinking the same thing. We should try the beach. So they used corona commercials as references and said, those people look quite leisurely.

At least this time traveling corona ad I found in a space bottle from the travel through time and wash up on the beach has people, why with, okay, so we're at the beach for no reason. A time traveling bottle rolls up with a corona ad in it from the future. And we're like, this is right, we should be here. I already like it here. I was like, yeah, me too. And you know what, I just invented, just a bit of decrees.

Just like that, it was simultaneous. And also, hopefully, corona. Yeah. Or that didn't come around to later. No, no, no, no. Definitely not using a lime in it. No, absolutely not. So all these people started spending time

at places like the beach and the lake. And I think humans are drawn to water when they want to relax or just whenever. And so they started like chilling outside more and it started to become a thing like, well, you know, if you're rich, you've got time to hang out at the water. So maybe start to get a tan. But what really, according to what I have read and I find this hard to believe, a lot of people link it to Coco Chanel, one incident, which this sounds apocryphal to me,

but maybe it's true, that supposedly Coco Chanel was yawning as you do when you're Coco Chanel. Off the South of France, as you do. As you do. And she was laying out on her yacht and she fell asleep unsafe yacht operation for Curious how to how to yacht that is that is a bad start. I'm going to assume someone else was Steering yes, I assume that Coco Chanel has her own yacht guy. I would hope she did I would hope I would assume it's Coco Chanel

So she's she's laying on her yacht. She falls asleep. She wakes up and is just Sunkiss beauty instantly now why she's not burnt and why she's tan in this Story, I don't know but but the story goes that she she came back to the coast and walked off the yacht and Instantaneously tanannen became popular. Okay, over here, click, click, click, pop-arazzi. And she was just like, this is intentional. I'm assuming that was more of like a flashpoint perhaps, or a tipping point for Tannen, rather than just like, her changing the whole game in one fill.

I don't know. Maybe so. It's possible. So at that point, Tannen really started to become a mark of wealth, first of all, because you had time to be leisurely, and also then beauty, especially from Coco Chanel. And then, you have to imagine that fashion would follow that, like, to show off more skin, so that you didn't have to hide your skin and keep it untouched by the sun, you could show off your tan. Now, that didn't completely stop us

from trying to protect ourselves. We were still trying to figure out why being out in the sun for a long time hurts us. And that was when, as far back as 1918, that's when we first linked sun exposure with cancer and specifically like you, you know, there were UV rays coming from the sun that could cause cellular damage. So we've known this for a really long time. And as a result, people started trying to make real sunscreen.

And so what did they make it out of? Well, Justin, I'm going to tell you all about sunscreen, but before I do, why don't you come with me down to the billing department? Let's go! The medicines, the medicines that I've skilled in my cards before the mouth. Okay, so people started making sunscreen, Sid. What did that look like? So first, so we go all the way back to 1878.

There's a sunscreen that was made. It's got this auto-veal of Australia proposed it and it had tan in it, which was a substance that would stain your skin a yellowish brown color if you applied it. So it may have worked somewhat but but but now you have to pay for that in a spray form, right? That's true, that maybe in a sense, Otto invented the first spray tan and didn't realize it.

That's, wow, he should have trademarked that. He'd be rich. Although I don't know, a yellowish brown color, mm-hmm, I'm not sure exactly what color you're gonna end up looking. Yeah. You may just look jaundiced. Yeah, not great.

So what other options do I have available to me? The first the first sunscreen that was commercially produced was by Milton Blake in Australia in the 1920s And that was and that was the the big seller for a long time and a lot of these early sunscreens did work a lot of them were actually Based on the idea that you could reflect the sun-rate, so there was a sun block, is probably what you would have caused. We kind of use the terms interchangeably, but what you're really talking about with any kind of sun-protectant, so to speak, is are you absorbing suns-rates with the thing

or you're reflecting the sun's rays? So when you're talking about the zinc oxide kind of stuff that people you know that people put on their nose You know I'm talking about. I like a really strong white. Yes, you're talking about like reflecting the sun's rays newer suns greens most of them kind of absorb the sun's rays is how they is how they block the sun So when we're talking about the older stuff, it's mainly reflected kind of things So you probably would have seen them on people so they weren't't as popular. Yeah, and hard to coat yourself with. Not a great beach look. In 1946, Swiss inventor Franz Geiter made Glacier Cream,

which sounded very fancy. I mean, was supposed to be better, but actually had an SPF today, we would know of about two. Okay, not great. No, this is not great, Fran. This is before SPF's. So he didn't know that to his credit. Yeah.

And in his defense, since he was unaware of those very early in the process, that's like two better than none. He would probably say it's 200% more effective than the leading remedy, which is nothing. Now, during World War II, Benjamin Green made a new substance that you could use to protect your skin from the sun. He used a red veterinary petroleum jelly, or what was called red vet pet, that did indeed create a barrier to the sun.

It was effective as a sunscreen, but you were red. Oh, well, that's not a side deal. No, no, most people. That's what you're trying to avoid. It was very practical for use, like in a wartime setting, like if you're out in the sun. I wouldn't have thought much skin was exposed. Maybe they're faces.

You know? Yeah, you got down time out there. You got leisure time. We've been vivid leisure Pannon, out there. You got leisure time. We've been vivid leisure time by now. We've been vivid leisure time by now. So you're outside and you don't want your face to get burnt. So I guess like putting something that was completely red all over your face,

petroleum jelly too, was okay. But later on, he kind of adjusted the formula. He added some cocoa butter, because everybody loves cocoa butter. He added some coconut oil because everybody loves cocoa butter. He added some coconut oil because that smells Wonderful and lo and behold Coppertone Is that so that's a reference to the original? Yeah way it digers skin, huh?

Absolutely. Oh interesting. I had no idea. Yeah, and obviously copper tone eventually no longer turned you red Yeah, we made it a much more popular in case the copper tone eventually no longer turned you red. We made it a much more popular. In case the copper tone folks are listening, we're not saying that's still a feature for your product. No, it does not make you red. As far as I know, I don't think I use copper tone. They have some kid sunscreens now that actually change your skin like blue for a bit,

just so you can tell where it's all been applied. And then as it dries, it turns clear. I was gonna say, that could be terrifying if they're swimming. Oh yeah, that would be horrific. If was going to say that could be terrifying if they're swimming. Oh, yeah. That would be horrific. If you turn around and your kids like swimming around and they're blue, like I'd freak out. I can't even think about that.

That's terrifying. No. So, but it turns back to like normal. Yeah. It's just so you can see where it's, make sure you got it everywhere and then it dries clear. Okay. Well, that's a pretty good idea.

Yeah. Yeah. So, with all this new sunscreen though, you would think that people were like, well, now that they're making sunscreen, I should probably use it, but that wasn't necessarily, not everybody felt the need to protect themselves against the sun. There was still this idea that had kind of permeated society that you needed some kind of healthy glow. That it was not only a beautiful to look like you'd spend a lot of time on the sun, but that it was actually a mark that you were in better health than

people who were pale. This got worse, I guess that's the word I'm going to use for this. This got worse up until the 60s. And this is really where you see kind of the height of this idea that tanning is the ideal. There are way more products out in the 60s to make you tan more than to make you tan less. So if you go, I mean, it would have, especially like teenagers at the time

or young people probably were not going and buying sunscreen, they were going and buying, you know, tanning lotions that would make their skin more susceptible. Yes, absolutely. And I remember these from back in the day, things that I remember they had something called like a tingle factor.

And when you put them on, like they would, they'd kind of burn, they'd kind of tingle. And then you would be in the sun and that was bad. But I remember that these things existed. That's that sounds it seems and that's not that long I'm not that old. It's not that long, but you know what I can remember actual sunscreen stinging to when I was a little kid at Used to stink Maybe I'm just thinking about like being in my eyes and stuff. Yeah, I think that's what you Maybe it was just being outside

I need to get back inside. So that along this trend by the 70s we see the invention of the tanning bed. Of course. Yes. But on the other hand in 70s, and maybe in reaction to this, we also see SPF become a thing. So, the idea that we can start rating sunscreens and the FDA gets involved to start regulating sunscreens in the Sun Protective Factor, so you can actually figure out, like, is this product that I'm buying that might be turning me a color, yellow or red or whatever, the sunscreens. that might be turning me a color, yellow or red or whatever, the sunscreen is, is it actually protecting me from the sun, which, I mean, I guess you find out sooner or later.

It didn't take much, much work to figure that out. But you'd prefer to find it out before you go outside in the sun and get burnt, rather than after. So then we see like the FDA starts regulating these and you start getting numbers and like, okay, this one's better than this one and that kind of thing. And you can't make like outrageous claims.

By the 80s, we figured out that there are problems from both UVA and UVB rays. So you know that both kinds of rays from the sun are dangerous and can cause skin damage and cancer. And as a result, as we move into the 90s and 2000s, you see more and more types of sunscreen. You see broader spectrum, ones that cover both types of rays. They're more popular. And then you see like spray, sunscreens,

and things that are water resistant. If it says waterproof, that does not mean you can swim all day and not reapply. Got it. And then of course, sunscreen really took off with that whole badz learned thing in 1999. Sure, that let the fire. That was the anti-co-co Chanel.

There are probably young people who are listening who don't know what we're talking about. Just Google it. Badz learned and made a thing out of somebody else's thing that a lot of people thought was written by Kurt Von and Kipa wasn't and it's called, what's it just called, wear sunscreen, I think. Or you're free to wear sunscreen. Free to wear everybody's called, it's just called wear sunscreen, I think. You're free to wear sunscreen.

Free to wear everybody's free to wear sunscreen. That's what it was called. It's called. Yeah, and it gives you like life advice. Yeah, go check it out. And I'll say, I have no idea if it will be culturally resident. I don't know if it will either.

I have no clue, but in the late 90s, we were into it. It was, it was considered very cool then. And either way, it tells you to wear sunscreen, so go for it. Go for it. Go nuts. And of course, by now we see that self tanning is a popular alternative, like spray tanning or, you know, like the things you can massage and like mooses and stuff to just make you look tan, but not actually be tan.

And also pale skin is coming back. Ooh. I actually don't know if that's true, I just declared it. All right, but there you go. Folks, you heard it here first. Cindy McRoy, the Cocoa Shnella for Day, has to pair the pale skin is back.

That's right, I, as I do every year, the first warm day of the season, I emerge from my house, it's not the South of France and I'm not on a yacht, season. I emerge from my house. It's not the South of France and I'm not on a yacht But I do emerge from my garage and I am wearing a t-shirt and shorts and the reflection of the sun off my pale pale skin Blinds my neighbors and they say oh my gosh. Who is that pale beauty? She's back. I can't see but oh, I love that look. Let me get a tumbler post up I want real quick. I went to blind my neighbors to how do I do that? And I'm like it's easy. I can't see, but oh, I love that look. Let me get a ton more post up. I want to real quick.

I want to blind my neighbors too. How do I do that? And I'm like, it's easy. Just don't go outside. So how much SPF do I need? You know, it's funny. You'll read a lot about this. This is a big conspiracy theory online,

but this is actually fairly true. SPF really maxes this out around 45 or 50. The sun protects the factor. It's really not, like if you go over that if something says that it's protects in fact, it's really not, like if you go over that, if something says that it's more than that, it's really not. It's 45 or 50. But honestly, a lot of dermatologists will tell you 30 is fine, that that's plenty.

Because if you look at the numbers, like 15 blocks out, like, and I don't have these percentages, I'm doing this for memory. So it's close to this, about 96% of the sun's rays. And then if you go up to like 30, it's like 97%. And then if you get up to like 45% and 50% is like 98%.

Any sunscreen is better than, is way, way, way, way, way better than none. Exactly, exactly. I would say that if you really want to make sure 30 is fine to go with, if you're paying more for stuff that says it's like 60 or 80, that I would not pay more for that kind of thing. But it's not directly related. It's not like 30s twice as strong as 15.

I think that's interesting. And it's a measure. It's actually the way they derive those numbers. It's a measure of the time it would take for your skin to burn without sunscreen relative to with this sunscreen and then somehow they get a number out of that. But 30 is what I would go for. I would go for 30. There are all kinds of weird

treatments for somber and so let's say you didn't take my advice and you did get a sunburn. If you check the internet you will find that people put everything. So whatever they got handy. You should reach for the first open container and put it on yourself. That's absolutely true. I was reading these and I found, these are some of the recommendations I found. So if you have a sunburn, here's what you should do.

You should put some lettuce on it and some cucumbers on it and some tomatoes on it and some vinegar on it. And I think we just made a salad on you. We skipped a meal, man. Put some to Ziki's house in there. Good to go. You could also try, I mean, really you'll find anything smashed up strawberries, coconut oil. One thing I read said that you should cut potatoes in half and rub all potatoes all over your skin. It should be awfully time consuming.

Fat free milk, that was specifically mentioned, not just milk. Not just milk, fat free milk. Fat free milk. Eat a bunch of sunflower seeds because they contain a lot of vitamin E, and vitamin E is good for your skin. Eat yogurt, use tea bags on your skin, baking soda. As far as do these things work, I don't know. I mean, I figured this way, if you really want to smear yourself with yogurt or strawberries

or tomatoes or whatever, I mean fine, go for it. Why not? There are a lot of these things that have certain anti-inflammatory kind of properties that might take some of the sting out. So I can see it like a lot of people will say that about vinegar that it'll take some of the sting out of the sunburn and it may. It's not going to cure it. It's going to go away. So if you don't feel like rubbing yourself with like boiled lettuce water, don't just don't. It's okay. If you if you're into it or if it's like a good excuse for you and you're you know you and your loved one to like,

experiment with them. Wild sunburn, no better time to make whoopee. What are actual treatments? What can I actually do? Give me the list. Okay, so some actual treatments. Oh wait, I have to tell you this one other thing. I found one other thing, great advice on the internet. This is one website. These are the things that they recommended.

So don't wear sunscreen, cover up, eat real food, and get a tan where the recommendations. So this is, and the reason I mentioned this, this is one website's Sun Protection Regimen is don't just read the internet and do anything they say on there because that's all bad advice. Yeah. Instead. Well cover up's all bad advice. Yeah. Instead. Well, cover up isn't bad advice. Well, cover up is fine, but like if you think that eating real food, whatever that means, eating real food is going to protect you from a sunburn.

That's our problem. We don't even know for our food. And also, don't wear sunscreen and get a tan. Well, anyway. Here's what you should actually do. First of all, don't get sunburn. That's good. Prevent it.

That's the best thing you can do is wear sunscreen. I mean, loose fitting clothing, like if I know it's hot out and you don't want to be, you know, draped in lots of clothing, but loose fitting clothing covering up your extremities, wearing a hat, those are all good ideas. Use a sun, use a sunbrella. Yes, yes, absolutely.

Get out of the sun when you start, like if you start to feel, like, you know, when your skin starts to get that tight feeling, like a, like, a little sore, like again, it's already too late. Well, get out of the sun though, because a lot of people don't do that. If you do get a sunburn hydrate, it's important, you know, because you're losing a lot of, of insensible fluid losses, you're losing fluid. So hydrate yourself, moisturize your skin. That's a good idea, if you get a sunburn. Things like anti-inflammatories that are over the counter, ibuprofen, or, you know, a leave, naproxen, that kind of thing can help. Allo really can take the sting

out, although again, we're not talking about curing a sunburn. The only thing that curers a sunburn is time. I just did real quick aside before we wrap up. This is kind of a hard show for me because if you didn't know this maybe My mom died from skin cancer about 10 years ago. So I say that not to freaky out or to bring things down But just to say that this is serious stuff and a lot of people treat it like it's not like it's just you know Some advice you can take or not, but I'm here to tell you it is very, very, very, very, very important. So please take the time, take the extra 30 seconds before you leave the house, even if you're not going to the beach, you're just like out about on a bright sunny day, apply your sunscreen because it could just save your life. That's absolutely true. There really is research to back up that wearing sunscreen and protecting yourself from burns can prevent specifically squamous cell cancer of the skin and melanoma.

Or just stay inside on a list of podcasts. That's the option. That's right. That's right. We are, we macaroids are producing them left and right. So check out all of our podcasts. Yeah, like solbons, I do one called The Adventures End with my brothers where we played D&D.

We do an advice podcast called my brother my brother and me I have a food review show on YouTube called things I bought at Sheets. I Have a video game podcast called quality control Travis has bunker buddies. He does with Andy right And he has another one called trends like these. He does this for him. Brand about what's hot on the internet? And Griffin doesn't have a side project because he's I don't know Maybe he's lazy and we't know, maybe he's working on it. He's lazy and we're very disappointed. Very disappointed. So listen to all those, many of them are on the maximum fun network, which we're proud member of, you can find all

those shows at maximumfun.org. Thank you to the taxpayers for letting us use their song medicines to intro and outro the show. We really do appreciate that. Thank you so much listening. One of the quick note, we're gonna be in the Pacific Northwest at the end of August. Go to bit.ly4idslashmbaamciaddle or bit.ly4idslashvandmbaam. That's Seattle and Vancouver. Last week in in August, it's gonna be Saul Bones and my brother, my brother, and me, and it's gonna be fun. So you should come out and see us.

And Riley will be there. Riley will be there, that's true. Who you like better than Justin. Yeah, thank you so much for that. That's going to do it for us folks until next Wednesday. I'm just Mac Roy. I'm Sydney Mac Roy. Alright! Maximumfund.org Comedy and Culture, Artistone, Listener Supported